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I totally missed that he'd gone to Livi, madness from the club not to give him a chance in our first team. He stood out every time I've seen him but we decide to punt him without even giving him a shot.
Feels like the same bracket as Dan Mackay, Dylan Tait etc. Struggling to see the logic behind the clubs decisions on players lately!
Has he gone? I understood we were prepared to release him in January and he was on trial at Livi. As for Mackay and Tait, I thought they were exactly the right type of players for us to sign but neither are automatic 1st choices in the Championship so its hard to be over critical of the Club.
1875Sean
09-12-2022, 03:33 PM
Good. A wee bidding frenzy and half a million in January and he absolutely goes with my best wishes.
If he signs a pre contract with a club that would take the bidding frenzy out of it and would be up to Hibs and agree a fee with just them
TheHibernator
09-12-2022, 06:36 PM
Don’t understand releasing Bradley given the state our team is in currently. With Boyle out for the season that leaves us with a 36 year old McGeady and Tavares who is massively out his depth at this level, as our wide options.
JohnM1875
09-12-2022, 06:38 PM
Don’t understand releasing Bradley given the state our team is in currently. With Boyle out for the season that leaves us with a 36 year old McGeady and Tavares who is massively out his depth at this level, as our wide options.
There's been plenty posts on here recently about Tavares and how he looks to have mode good progress already. Don't think he's massively out his depth, just needs game time.
bingo70
09-12-2022, 06:46 PM
Don’t understand releasing Bradley given the state our team is in currently. With Boyle out for the season that leaves us with a 36 year old McGeady and Tavares who is massively out his depth at this level, as our wide options.
Mitchell and Henderson too.
I thought Bradley looked poor when I saw him.
TheHibernator
09-12-2022, 06:49 PM
There's been plenty posts on here recently about Tavares and how he looks to have mode good progress already. Don't think he's massively out his depth, just needs game time.
Fair enough, didn’t watch the Raith game. Has looked like he needed a season on loan every time I’ve seen him, too lightweight and didn’t have the pace to make up for it
TheHibernator
09-12-2022, 06:54 PM
Mitchell and Henderson too.
I thought Bradley looked poor when I saw him.
Forgot about Mitchell, another one that’s injury prone though and Henderson isn’t a winger, far too slow, better through the middle.
Only seen clips from his loan at Dundalk but from what I’ve seen and heard did well, at least give the boy a run out before releasing him. We’re patient enough with some of the guys we’ve signed in the summer so why not young lads from the academy.
Hibiza
09-12-2022, 06:57 PM
Nobody. Absolutely nobody.
Kamberi
OldEast
09-12-2022, 11:09 PM
Kamberi
And if I remember right wasn't he backed up by a few of the other players too?
Donegal Hibby
09-12-2022, 11:47 PM
Sorry if already posted but according to this a Italian club have entered the race for Porto , more the merrier imo , guys going anyhow so hopefully we get some money for him .
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/ryan-porteous-targeted-serie-club-25719580
Donegal Hibby
10-12-2022, 10:26 AM
Josh Doig seems to be a player very much wanted in Italy .
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9901105/josh-doig-transfer-four-serie-a-clubs-hibs-verona/
Bridge hibs
10-12-2022, 10:34 AM
Josh Doig seems to be a player very much wanted in Italy .
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9901105/josh-doig-transfer-four-serie-a-clubs-hibs-verona/
£6m ? Nice wee earner for hibs
EGL2000
10-12-2022, 10:34 AM
Josh Doig seems to be a player very much wanted in Italy .
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9901105/josh-doig-transfer-four-serie-a-clubs-hibs-verona/
Fairly poor price actually expected it to be more closer to 10-12 mil.
Donegal Hibby
10-12-2022, 10:42 AM
£6m ? Nice wee earner for hibs
Yeah agree , wonder what percentage have we in the sell on clause ? Anyhow it is good news and hopefully a bidding war starts 😉
bingo70
10-12-2022, 10:47 AM
Yeah agree , wonder what percentage have we in the sell on clause ? Anyhow it is good news and hopefully a bidding war starts 😉
Sure someone said earlier in the thread it was confirmed as being about 28%
Billy Whizz
10-12-2022, 10:49 AM
Sure someone said earlier in the thread it was confirmed as being about 28%
Will it be 28% of the total fee, or 28% between the price we sold him, and the price a new club will pay for him
1875Sean
10-12-2022, 10:57 AM
Fairly poor price actually expected it to be more closer to 10-12 mil.
Got to remember he’s only made like 9 appearances this season
EGL2000
10-12-2022, 11:09 AM
Got to remember he’s only made like 9 appearances this season
Appearance aren't really that much of an indicator of value these days. Fabio Silva moved for 40+ mil. He only made around 10 appearance for Porto. Much more perceived potential these days, Especially on the younger players.
MWHIBBIES
10-12-2022, 11:13 AM
Appearance aren't really that much of an indicator of value these days. Fabio Silva moved for 40+ mil. He only made around 10 appearance for Porto. Much more perceived potential these days, Especially on the younger players.
Fabio Silva is a Mendes client, who went to Wolves. Its not a great comparison, but yes, potential goes a long way. If he is moving to another Italian club, it wont be for silly money, though.
EGL2000
10-12-2022, 11:16 AM
Fabio Silva is a Mendes client, who went to Wolves. Its not a great comparison, but yes, potential goes a long way. If he is moving to another Italian club, it wont be for silly money, though.
If he goes to Bologna yes, but Roma being strongly financial backed recently, similar with Napoli and likely receive alot of decent fees for their current crop.
Donegal Hibby
10-12-2022, 11:32 AM
Will it be 28% of the total fee, or 28% between the price we sold him, and the price a new club will pay for him
That would be great. Considering that we have already got 3 mill for him and chances are we will get more it's all good also find it funny that Craig Levein let him go , another smart decision by a tactical genius 😂🤣
EGL2000
13-12-2022, 08:17 AM
Inter Milan now in the race for Doig.
Ian Murray recommends Rangers or Celtic rather than an English championship side as best for Porteous, thanks Ian.
SteveHFC
13-12-2022, 11:10 AM
Inter Milan now in the race for Doig.
That would be a great move.
HoboHarry
13-12-2022, 12:08 PM
Ian Murray recommends Rangers or Celtic rather than an English championship side as best for Porteous, thanks Ian.
He can stick his advice where the sun doesn't shine.
Tyler Durden
13-12-2022, 12:15 PM
Inter Milan now in the race for Doig.
It sounds implausible but since Perisic left them, Inter have a guy Di Marco playing left wing back. He's really nothing special at all, it's definitely an area they could improve on.
I'd still be surprised if Doig moves so quick but if there is interest, maybe Verona would rather cash in and fund some other transfers/loans. Given they are really struggling to stay in the league.
Torto7
13-12-2022, 12:25 PM
Ian Murray recommends Rangers or Celtic rather than an English championship side as best for Porteous, thanks Ian.
He'd give Scott Browns best pal a run for his money in kissing Rantics @rse.
GloryGlory
13-12-2022, 12:27 PM
It sounds implausible but since Perisic left them, Inter have a guy Di Marco playing left wing back. He's really nothing special at all, it's definitely an area they could improve on.
I'd still be surprised if Doig moves so quick but if there is interest, maybe Verona would rather cash in and fund some other transfers/loans. Given they are really struggling to stay in the league.
You never know. There was speculation that they had put a price tag of £6 million on Doig. Maybe he has a relegation clause in his contract that he can go for less if Verona are relegated, so they may be willing to get more cash now. I'm not at all ITK just putting that idea out there, because they seemed to be quick to put that price tag on him when the speculation started a few weeks ago.
Tyler Durden
13-12-2022, 12:49 PM
You never know. There was speculation that they had put a price tag of £6 million on Doig. Maybe he has a relegation clause in his contract that he can go for less if Verona are relegated, so they may be willing to get more cash now. I'm not at all ITK just putting that idea out there, because they seemed to be quick to put that price tag on him when the speculation started a few weeks ago.
It would be pretty disappointing if the fee was as low as £6m. Hopefully that's just paper talk.
If teams like Roma and Inter are interested, they'd be daft to sell for less than £10m surely. But that could all be silly season paper talk also. Time will tell.
GloryGlory
13-12-2022, 01:39 PM
It would be pretty disappointing if the fee was as low as £6m. Hopefully that's just paper talk.
If teams like Roma and Inter are interested, they'd be daft to sell for less than £10m surely. But that could all be silly season paper talk also. Time will tell.
Yes - that's why I said it was "speculation". Who knows whether they have put a price on him and what it may be?
Tyler Durden
13-12-2022, 01:49 PM
Yes - that's why I said it was "speculation". Who knows whether they have put a price on him and what it may be?
:thumbsup:
Donegal Hibby
13-12-2022, 05:25 PM
Reading that St Johnstone and a clutch of other clubs are after Ruari Paton of Queen of the south and that he came thru the ranks at Hibs , can't say I remember the guy ,he's near out of contract apparently.
Up-the-slope
13-12-2022, 06:01 PM
Whats the current thoughts / info on Ryan Porteous moving ?(it looks very unlikely he will sign a new deal now).
Heard he 'has been offered deals by both sides of OF but favours Rangers as he thinks more chance of playing'
I must admit it annoys me, while im sure we all know it happens, that there is tapping up / offers etc before the 6 months of end of contract.
This in effect means the contract for current club is much shorter when another club is really starting such negotiations way ahead of what they should... and possibly avoiding a transfer fee by letting it be known to said player to sit tight to end of contract...:tsk tsk:
Billy Whizz
13-12-2022, 06:14 PM
Reading that St Johnstone and a clutch of other clubs are after Ruari Paton of Queen of the south and that he came thru the ranks at Hibs , can't say I remember the guy ,he's near out of contract apparently.
Saw Ruari quote a number of times for our development team pre Covid
We brought him over from ROI. He was an excellent penalty box player/ finisher
His problem was he had a lot of injuries. He was released then went to East Kilbride for a season and then Stranraer. Joined queens at the start of last season
Still only 22
Reading that St Johnstone and a clutch of other clubs are after Ruari Paton of Queen of the south and that he came thru the ranks at Hibs , can't say I remember the guy ,he's near out of contract apparently.
He's joint top scorer in League 1 alongside another ex Hibee in Danny Handling and Jordan Allan of Clyde. Simon Murray is 2nd top scorer in the Championship but as we know there's a big difference to doing it in the top flight.
He's joint top scorer in League 1 alongside another ex Hibee in Danny Handling and Jordan Allan of Clyde. Simon Murray is 2nd top scorer in the Championship but as we know there's a big difference to doing it in the top flight.
About 3 weeks ago the front 3 in the League 1 Team of the Week were all ex Hibs, the other was Ryan Shanley.
Billy Whizz
13-12-2022, 06:42 PM
About 3 weeks ago the front 3 in the League 1 Team of the Week were all ex Hibs, the other was Ryan Shanley.
Shanley is a player who if he believed in himself more, should be playing at a much higher level
Has got everything in a modern player, but doesn’t use it. Such a lovely lad too
Donegal Hibby
13-12-2022, 06:53 PM
Saw Ruari quote a number of times for our development team pre Covid
We brought him over from ROI. He was an excellent penalty box player/ finisher
His problem was he had a lot of injuries. He was released then went to East Kilbride for a season and then Stranraer. Joined queens at the start of last season
Still only 22
He's joint top scorer in League 1 alongside another ex Hibee in Danny Handling and Jordan Allan of Clyde. Simon Murray is 2nd top scorer in the Championship but as we know there's a big difference to doing it in the top flight.
Thanks for the info guys 👍. Strange I don't remember him with being Irish and at Hibs , he seems to be doing well now good luck to him except against Hibs of course.
Up-the-slope
13-12-2022, 07:24 PM
Saw Ruari quote a number of times for our development team pre Covid
We brought him over from ROI. He was an excellent penalty box player/ finisher
His problem was he had a lot of injuries. He was released then went to East Kilbride for a season and then Stranraer. Joined queens at the start of last season
Still only 22
its amazing how much injuries can affect early progress for young players at points when contracts might be given.
Is he a potential Dobbie type late developer?
CentreForward
13-12-2022, 10:09 PM
Actually find that £6m figure quoted disappointing. Yes would mean that we would still make a big sell on fee but had been hoping that he might stay at Verona for 2 or 3 years and then the fee might have been quite a lot bigger. Suppose problem is if they get relegated then his value would probably end up dropping!
Unseen work
14-12-2022, 12:05 AM
Anyone know if Bojang as left the club unofficially?
Noticed he’s not been in any photos and videos recently and in Johnson’s recent interview when asked about Bojang his response was intriguing.
Basically said Bojang is fit, laughed and then looked like he was about to say something he shouldn’t before repeating he is fit and had a smirk
Forza Fred
14-12-2022, 01:48 AM
[QUOTE=EGL2000;7190603]Inter Milan now in the race for Doig.[/QUOTE
At the moment in the same stable alongside the speculation that Man U were going to bid £50m for John McGinn.
cameronw-hfc
14-12-2022, 05:28 AM
Anyone know if Bojang as left the club unofficially?
Noticed he’s not been in any photos and videos recently and in Johnson’s recent interview when asked about Bojang his response was intriguing.
Basically said Bojang is fit, laughed and then looked like he was about to say something he shouldn’t before repeating he is fit and had a smirk
What interview is this? Can you link it please? Not doubting just fancy a look myself and cant find it.
Jones28
14-12-2022, 06:59 AM
Anyone know if Bojang as left the club unofficially?
Noticed he’s not been in any photos and videos recently and in Johnson’s recent interview when asked about Bojang his response was intriguing.
Basically said Bojang is fit, laughed and then looked like he was about to say something he shouldn’t before repeating he is fit and had a smirk
Can’t really blame either party for it not working out, just not of the quality required. Sometimes these things come off.
Unseen work
14-12-2022, 11:50 AM
What interview is this? Can you link it please? Not doubting just fancy a look myself and cant find it.
It’s the pre match press conference on Hibs TV mate.
I might be looking a bit too much into it but looked like he stopped himself from saving something imo
AugustaHibs
14-12-2022, 12:05 PM
Spend all the budget on foreign youngsters, a decent one comes through at hibs and he’s shipped off to a team performing better than us in the same league.
I’d trust martindales eye for a player 100x over ron and his team of clowns.
SteveHFC
14-12-2022, 12:13 PM
Spend all the budget on foreign youngsters, a decent one comes through at hibs and he’s shipped off to a team performing better than us in the same league.
I’d trust martindales eye for a player 100x over ron and his team of clowns.
:agree:
AL-Qaholik
14-12-2022, 12:16 PM
Spend all the budget on foreign youngsters, a decent one comes through at hibs and he’s shipped off to a team performing better than us in the same league.
I’d trust martindales eye for a player 100x over ron and his team of clowns.
Aye. Not a good look.
bingo70
14-12-2022, 12:16 PM
Spend all the budget on foreign youngsters, a decent one comes through at hibs and he’s shipped off to a team performing better than us in the same league.
I’d trust martindales eye for a player 100x over ron and his team of clowns.
The decision to release him won’t have anything to do with Ron and his team, if LJ thought he would benefit the team he’d use him.
You might disagree with the club but this one is on LJ, not the transfer committee.
FWIW Bradley won’t be good enough and I’m pretty confident it won’t be one that comes back to but us, in my opinion of course.
Since452
14-12-2022, 12:22 PM
Ian Murray recommends Rangers or Celtic rather than an English championship side as best for Porteous, thanks Ian.
I'd rather he went to Celtic or Rangers than down south. We'd have a better chance of scoring with him playing for them.
Since452
14-12-2022, 12:25 PM
Spend all the budget on foreign youngsters, a decent one comes through at hibs and he’s shipped off to a team performing better than us in the same league.
I’d trust martindales eye for a player 100x over ron and his team of clowns.
Who are we shipping out? Sorry not read the whole thread?
Paulie Walnuts
14-12-2022, 12:25 PM
The decision to release him won’t have anything to do with Ron and his team, if LJ thought he would benefit the team he’d use him.
You might disagree with the club but this one is on LJ, not the transfer committee.
FWIW Bradley won’t be good enough and I’m pretty confident it won’t be one that comes back to but us, in my opinion of course.
He has been out on loan the whole time LJ has been here. He’s not had the chance to use him.
TheHibernator
14-12-2022, 12:27 PM
He has been out on loan the whole time LJ has been here. He’s not had the chance to use him.
Exactly, and he’s only made three appearances prior to that. Bojangs been given more of a chance. Would also say Martindale taking an interest is a bad sign as he has an eye for a player.
bingo70
14-12-2022, 12:41 PM
He has been out on loan the whole time LJ has been here. He’s not had the chance to use him.
Now he’s back from loan though so he could choose to use him now (or from January) but he’s deciding he won’t benefit the team so releasing him instead.
If LJ wanted to keep him, he would. This will be LJ’s decision, not RG’s or the transfer committee.
Mcbizz1998
14-12-2022, 01:04 PM
Would much rather we got a look at players like Bradley than taking random punts on players like Bojang.
Out of the 2 I know which one I’d bet on making it in this league.
Tyler Durden
14-12-2022, 01:09 PM
He has been out on loan the whole time LJ has been here. He’s not had the chance to use him.
Yes but like any player on loan, the coach will have regular reports and have the opportunity to watch and assess Bradley. Clearly LJ didn't want to retain him.
I think Livi are buying him with the aim to loan him out. Seems unlikely that he's going to make an immediate impact in the league for Livi but good luck to him.
Tyler Durden
14-12-2022, 01:12 PM
Would much rather we got a look at players like Bradley than taking random punts on players like Bojang.
Out of the 2 I know which one I’d bet on making it in this league.
It's never been a binary choice between playing/keeping Bradley or Bojang though has it? They don't even play the same position.
Johnson has admitted himself this week that we've had some bad recruitment. I don't think the decision to release Bradley should be a prompt to rehash the whole "recruitment has been p*sh" chat but here we are.
Blaster
14-12-2022, 01:12 PM
Would much rather we got a look at players like Bradley than taking random punts on players like Bojang.
Out of the 2 I know which one I’d bet on making it in this league.
I don’t think either are good enough and we have to ship these players out (and others) to replace with much better quality.
Whether we manage to do the latter is the concern
CapitalGreen
14-12-2022, 01:13 PM
Would much rather we got a look at players like Bradley than taking random punts on players like Bojang.
Out of the 2 I know which one I’d bet on making it in this league.
Out of interest, why is the signing of Bojang considered a punt but the signing of Bradley is not?
Bradley was signed after only 47 minutes of football in the Scottish 4th tier.
Not sure what you mean by “players like Bradley” over players like Bojang.
PHeffernan
14-12-2022, 01:22 PM
Spend all the budget on foreign youngsters, a decent one comes through at hibs and he’s shipped off to a team performing better than us in the same league.
I’d trust martindales eye for a player 100x over ron and his team of clowns.
We currently have circa 50 players between the 1st team squad, the development team and the Under 19 team.
The easiest way to get the squad size down to allow new players to be brought in is to move players on at or in the last 6 months of the end of their contracts.
Bradley has a load of guys in front of him at the moment. Youan, Mitchell, McGeady and Tavares. The signing of the latter spelt the end for Bradley.
The likelyhood is he won't turn out to be a better player than Drey Wright who folk moaned about not being good enough for Hibs.
However, I've not seen enough of him to decide either way. He has a good bodyshape and when he fills out in the next 18 months he might make a leap forward and could turn out a better player than Tavares.
I will watch on with interest and am glad he has a new club and a chance to move forward.
Unseen work
14-12-2022, 01:47 PM
https://twitter.com/livifcofficial/status/1603012320225017857?s=46&t=XEc8eSGFOpSYKhyx2cFF7w
Bradley officially joins Livi on a two and a half year deal.
Dissapointed as he’s one I thought had a good chance, especially after a promising loan.
Unfortunately for him we’re in a position we need first team ready players though and those of quality. If some signings hadn’t been made that oppertunity for him might have still been there
TheHibernator
14-12-2022, 02:25 PM
https://twitter.com/callumcarsonwlc/status/1603015858879877121?s=46&t=wQ4TM8ByFYRXYqVkHGIijQ
Best of luck to the lad.
Honestly not even thinking about the games between now and January, just looking forward to the window opening.
CapitalGreen
14-12-2022, 02:51 PM
Couldn’t really give a **** who we bring in unless we are prioritising at least one quality central midfielder.
Paulie Walnuts
14-12-2022, 04:37 PM
Couldn’t really give a **** who we bring in unless we are prioritising at least one quality central midfielder.
I’ve no doubt that won’t happen as it’s been required for years now and we haven’t done it.
Sir David Gray
14-12-2022, 04:51 PM
I'm fairly relaxed about this one. I wish Bradley all the best but we've rarely let a youngster leave who has come back to haunt us.
And I say that as someone who is far from happy with the club at the moment.
hibee-boys
14-12-2022, 05:45 PM
I'm fairly relaxed about this one. I wish Bradley all the best but we've rarely let a youngster leave who has come back to haunt us.
And I say that as someone who is far from happy with the club at the moment.
Yip, I can’t think of a single one that’s gone onto play at a higher level than Hibs. Wish the lad all the best but we’ve got far too many players making up squad numbers, hopefully many more to follow so we can channel funds elsewhere.
JohnM1875
14-12-2022, 05:52 PM
I'm fairly relaxed about this one. I wish Bradley all the best but we've rarely let a youngster leave who has come back to haunt us.
And I say that as someone who is far from happy with the club at the moment.
Exactly where I am now as well. Was a bit surprised by it seeing as the very few times I'd seen him play he actually looked good. But I realised this was probably about three appearances.
We've had a few managers now and not one has thought he was good enough to play first team.
Absolutely wish him all the best though, just hope he never plays well against us!
JohnM1875
14-12-2022, 06:37 PM
Connor Ronan being sent out on loan by Wolves. We were interested a while back right? Could be again?
JammyDoidger
14-12-2022, 06:40 PM
Connor Ronan being sent out on loan by Wolves. We were interested a while back right? Could be again?
That's too obvious, not exotic enough for us.
Iain G
14-12-2022, 06:43 PM
Connor Ronan being sent out on loan by Wolves. We were interested a while back right? Could be again?
That's better! Back to the previous regime singing policy of bringing in players with interchangable Frist and surnames, I like it!
bingo70
14-12-2022, 06:44 PM
That's too obvious, not exotic enough for us.
Or another problem could be that Aberdeen and Hearts also wanted him and have more money than us?
If we put our eggs in that basket and he chooses one of them, as he probably would, what do we do then?
Unfortunately that’s the reality our recruitment team face so why we’ve gone a bit more exotic recently. Even if it’s not worked very well unfortunately.
Unseen work
14-12-2022, 06:48 PM
Connor Ronan would be a no brainer for us.
Unfortunately I think we’d be third behind Aberdeen and hearts in who he’d come to, also likely to have options in the championship.
04Sauzee
14-12-2022, 07:12 PM
Connor Ronan would be a no brainer for us.
Unfortunately I think we’d be third behind Aberdeen and hearts in who he’d come to, also likely to have options in the championship.
Do you know if he has played many minutes this season? Assuming he's been playing u23 football down South?
What kind of player is he? I know he scored a few goals for St Mirren but is he a No 10 or box to box?
JammyDoidger
14-12-2022, 07:50 PM
Or another problem could be that Aberdeen and Hearts also wanted him and have more money than us?
If we put our eggs in that basket and he chooses one of them, as he probably would, what do we do then?
Unfortunately that’s the reality our recruitment team face so why we’ve gone a bit more exotic recently. Even if it’s not worked very well unfortunately.
Instead of having 100 players on our books, run with a smaller squad and pay them more than hearts and Aberdeen, that's the sensible thing to do.
bingo70
14-12-2022, 08:03 PM
Instead of having 100 players on our books, run with a smaller squad and pay them more than hearts and Aberdeen, that's the sensible thing to do.
That’s pretty much what we’ve tried to do my entire life.
Hasn’t worked either.
Hibiza
14-12-2022, 08:22 PM
Probably another Johnson fxxk up.
Jones28
14-12-2022, 08:28 PM
Probably another Johnson fxxk up.
Pathetic
davhibby
14-12-2022, 08:39 PM
Instead of having 100 players on our books, run with a smaller squad and pay them more than hearts and Aberdeen, that's the sensible thing to do.
Aberdeen and Hearts have much more money than us so that’s quite hard to do
Donegal Hibby
14-12-2022, 08:45 PM
Probably another Johnson fxxk up.
What you mean?
PHeffernan
14-12-2022, 08:48 PM
Connor Ronan would be a no brainer for us.
Unfortunately I think we’d be third behind Aberdeen and hearts in who he’d come to, also likely to have options in the championship.
I could see him at Hearts if he comes back to Scotland.
They have money to burn to ensure 3rd.
I like Ronan. When at St Mirren he didn't shoot for the sake of shooting but when he did it was high quality
Mrimbetween
14-12-2022, 08:50 PM
Cant see anyone one coming in
Lee used the words, wont infiltrate, when referring to many squad players, seemed a strange way to go on about things
Pots empty and i cant see players coming in until many are moved on, a shambles signing all those players which is costing us big time
Iain G
14-12-2022, 09:02 PM
Cant see anyone one coming in
Lee used the words, wont infiltrate, when referring to many squad players, seemed a strange way to go on about things
Pots empty and i cant see players coming in until many are moved on, a shambles signing all those players which is costing us big time
Impressive piling of negative on top of negative on top of negative there!
jeffers
14-12-2022, 09:43 PM
Out of interest how much do people think the highest earners at Hearts and Aberdeen are on ?
Mrimbetween
14-12-2022, 09:48 PM
Impressive piling of negative on top of negative on top of negative there!
Just a tad peeved right now and dont really see positives, but that can change
1875Sean
14-12-2022, 11:35 PM
The record say if connor ronan leaves Wolves this window we and Aberdeen would be in to him, the type of player we need in midfield
JammyDoidger
15-12-2022, 01:52 AM
Aberdeen and Hearts have much more money than us so that’s quite hard to do
I would guess right now that we are paying more in wages than both of them with the number of players we have on our books. Could be wrong, but feels like we have so many players on our books, if we weren't paying so many players we could be giving better players better wages. For example up top, we have Youan, McKirdy, Nisbet, Bojang, Melkersen, Doidge, and that's before you look at your O'Connors and the likes, we play with 1 central striker. So why not have 2 or 3 of real quality than leave so many sitting on the sidelines.
Not In The Know
15-12-2022, 06:54 AM
I would guess right now that we are paying more in wages than both of them with the number of players we have on our books. Could be wrong, but feels like we have so many players on our books, if we weren't paying so many players we could be giving better players better wages. For example up top, we have Youan, McKirdy, Nisbet, Bojang, Melkersen, Doidge, and that's before you look at your O'Connors and the likes, we play with 1 central striker. So why not have 2 or 3 of real quality than leave so many sitting on the sidelines.
No chance.
Unseen work
15-12-2022, 07:06 AM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/scott-robertson-relishing-celtic-exit-28735134?int_source=nba
Wouldn’t surprise me if we were all over this.
Young player granted but a very good one at that and one that would be a first team player straight away.
Unseen work
15-12-2022, 07:07 AM
Do you know if he has played many minutes this season? Assuming he's been playing u23 football down South?
What kind of player is he? I know he scored a few goals for St Mirren but is he a No 10 or box to box?
Probably similar style wise to Stevie Mallan but more mobile.
Technically very good, decent range of passing and shooting. Good set pieces and good skill to make a yard of space
theonlywayisup
15-12-2022, 07:11 AM
Confirmed in (0):
N/A
Confirmed new contracts (0):
N/A
Confirmed returned from loan (0):
N/A
Confirmed out (0):
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Confirmed out on loan (0):
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Rumoured in:
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Rumoured new contracts:
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37 pages :tumble:
Maybe next time don't start the thread too soon. :greengrin
Mcbizz1998
15-12-2022, 08:25 AM
Out of interest, why is the signing of Bojang considered a punt but the signing of Bradley is not?
Bradley was signed after only 47 minutes of football in the Scottish 4th tier.
Not sure what you mean by “players like Bradley” over players like Bojang.
We picked Bradley up as a 16/17 year old prospect. He played for us briefly and then went on loan to the championship and did well, went on loan to Ireland and did well. He is 20 years old and I presumed was going to come back after a couple of solid loan spells to get at least a chance with Hibs. Apparently not.
Bojang is a guy who I highly doubt was ever seen in the flesh by anyone at the club - playing for a team that are such an unknown quantity that it’s pretty much impossible to even find them online (don’t even have a wiki page [emoji3]).
Anyway, it’s nothing against Bojang and I hope he comes good but I felt Bradley was out on loan gaining experience to then come back to see what he can do here.
SickBoy32
15-12-2022, 08:30 AM
That’s pretty much what we’ve tried to do my entire life.
Hasn’t worked either.
Worked alright when we finished 3rd recently with a lean squad, granted the jambos were absent but nonetheless it felt a reasonable way to operate - smaller squad of higher quality.
This Gordon fantasy of creating a 'player trading' dynasty has ruined our season, and with it any chance of Euro group stage football.
A continuation of the same strategy in Jan 23 needs to see fan pressure building on the decision makers at our club IMO
bingo70
15-12-2022, 08:51 AM
Worked alright when we finished 3rd recently with a lean squad, granted the jambos were absent but nonetheless it felt a reasonable way to operate - smaller squad of higher quality.
This Gordon fantasy of creating a 'player trading' dynasty has ruined our season, and with it any chance of Euro group stage football.
A continuation of the same strategy in Jan 23 needs to see fan pressure building on the decision makers at our club IMO
History tells us that was a blip though rather than down to a good strategy.
As you say, we also weren’t competing with Hearts and Aberdeen were underperforming.
We’d all like us to be signing household names and I don’t disagree with you about running a smaller squad. I’m just playing devils advocate as I understand why we are trying to find a different strategy.
If we’ve the 5th biggest budget in the league but want to finish 3rd and shopping in the same market as Hearts and Aberdeen we are only likely to be left with the dregs.
SickBoy32
15-12-2022, 09:08 AM
History tells us that was a blip though rather than down to a good strategy.
As you say, we also weren’t competing with Hearts and Aberdeen were underperforming.
We’d all like us to be signing household names and I don’t disagree with you about running a smaller squad. I’m just playing devils advocate as I understand why we are trying to find a different strategy.
If we’ve the 5th biggest budget in the league but want to finish 3rd and shopping in the same market as Hearts and Aberdeen we are only likely to be left with the dregs.
Budget for each team doesn't always directly translate to performance, just look at our record going back however many decades! Motherwell, Livi and StJ have all regularly outperformed us with much smaller budgets.
Spending whatever budget we have wisely is the crux of the matter (look at the squad we assembled in the Champ!) , I honestly struggle to think of a time where we've wasted more money than in the last 12 months?
I'd also be interested in any examples anywhere of this sort of strategy working, ie investing heavily (relatively) in young boys with pretty much zero first team exposure, and expecting any kind of success?
The current strategy has failed and failed spectacularly, the only question now is how long will it take for us to recover from the damage caused by the contracts dished out and subsequent money down the drain. And how many more managers we'll churn through in the process.
Since452
15-12-2022, 09:08 AM
Why are people getting upset about Bradley leaving? Maybe he isn't good enough for Hibs first team?
BlackSheep
15-12-2022, 09:19 AM
Why are people getting upset about Bradley leaving? Maybe he isn't good enough for Hibs first team?
The few appearances he had in our first team he looked talented and young, hence going out on loan..... the change in management while being away has prevented him from breaking into our team on his return.
Bradley could've been a real asset to Hibs, but circumstances have blocked that.... Its never good to watch a youth player with potential and ability walk away for nothing without having had a proper chance.
archie
15-12-2022, 09:38 AM
I've never seen Bradley play. Might it be an awful decision? Yes. But I thought we had outstanding players at the age group below. How do we give these players a route to the first team unless we move players on.
MrRobot
15-12-2022, 09:39 AM
Cant see anyone one coming in
Lee used the words, wont infiltrate, when referring to many squad players, seemed a strange way to go on about things
Pots empty and i cant see players coming in until many are moved on, a shambles signing all those players which is costing us big time
you don’t think we will sign a single player in the january window? has that ever happened before? :greengrin
Fergus52
15-12-2022, 10:01 AM
I would guess right now that we are paying more in wages than both of them with the number of players we have on our books. Could be wrong, but feels like we have so many players on our books, if we weren't paying so many players we could be giving better players better wages. For example up top, we have Youan, McKirdy, Nisbet, Bojang, Melkersen, Doidge, and that's before you look at your O'Connors and the likes, we play with 1 central striker. So why not have 2 or 3 of real quality than leave so many sitting on the sidelines.
Absolutely no chance of that. On most recent published accounts Hearts and Aberdeens wage bills were 11.2 and 10.2 million per year respectively and ours was only 6.6. Even when you account for things like catering being in house for them, I can't imagine that making up a difference of more than 1 million at most.
Our wage bill is closer to Motherwell, Dundee Utd, St Mirren and Ross County (which range from 3.2 million to 5.9 million) than it is to Aberdeen. We aren't shopping in the same market for players as them or Hearts unfortunately.
Out of interest how much do people think the highest earners at Hearts and Aberdeen are on ?
Based on the evidence above, a lot higher than many on this board would guess. There's rumours we're paying Boyle 8 or 9k a week with a similar deal offered to Porteous - think Aberdeen's and Hearts highest earners will be on a wee bit more.
jeffers
15-12-2022, 10:12 AM
Absolutely no chance of that. On most recent published accounts Hearts and Aberdeens wage bills were 11.2 and 10.2 million per year respectively and ours was only 6.6. Even when you account for things like catering being in house for them, I can't imagine that making up a difference of more than 1 million at most.
Our wage bill is closer to Motherwell, Dundee Utd, St Mirren and Ross County (which range from 3.2 million to 5.9 million) than it is to Aberdeen. We aren't shopping in the same market for players as them or Hearts unfortunately.
Based on the evidence above, a lot higher than many on this board would guess. There's rumours we're paying Boyle 8 or 9k a week with a similar deal offered to Porteous - think Aberdeen's and Hearts highest earners will be on a wee bit more.
Wouldn’t surprise me if we are paying Boyle more than that.
SHODAN
15-12-2022, 10:27 AM
37 pages :tumble:
Maybe next time don't start the thread too soon. :greengrin
We have one out now!
Weir07
15-12-2022, 10:34 AM
Budget for each team doesn't always directly translate to performance, just look at our record going back however many decades! Motherwell, Livi and StJ have all regularly outperformed us with much smaller budgets.
Spending whatever budget we have wisely is the crux of the matter (look at the squad we assembled in the Champ!) , I honestly struggle to think of a time where we've wasted more money than in the last 12 months?
I'd also be interested in any examples anywhere of this sort of strategy working, ie investing heavily (relatively) in young boys with pretty much zero first team exposure, and expecting any kind of success?
The current strategy has failed and failed spectacularly, the only question now is how long will it take for us to recover from the damage caused by the contracts dished out and subsequent money down the drain. And how many more managers we'll churn through in the process.
Everything in bold is spot on, to be honest I should have just highlighted the whole thing but the bits in bold are the most pertinent. I'm just hoping that someone with authority at Hibs thinks the same way or at least is starting to think that way.
Nicho87
15-12-2022, 10:46 AM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/scott-robertson-relishing-celtic-exit-28735134?int_source=nba
Wouldn’t surprise me if we were all over this.
Young player granted but a very good one at that and one that would be a first team player straight away.
I think this is exactly the type of signing we should be steering well clear of currently.
Untried and not tested.
Big no where Hibs are at just now
Tyler Durden
15-12-2022, 10:51 AM
Absolutely no chance of that. On most recent published accounts Hearts and Aberdeens wage bills were 11.2 and 10.2 million per year respectively and ours was only 6.6. Even when you account for things like catering being in house for them, I can't imagine that making up a difference of more than 1 million at most.
Our wage bill is closer to Motherwell, Dundee Utd, St Mirren and Ross County (which range from 3.2 million to 5.9 million) than it is to Aberdeen. We aren't shopping in the same market for players as them or Hearts unfortunately.
Based on the evidence above, a lot higher than many on this board would guess. There's rumours we're paying Boyle 8 or 9k a week with a similar deal offered to Porteous - think Aberdeen's and Hearts highest earners will be on a wee bit more.
Hibs should be due to publish our accounts soon though and that Turnover (and wage bill gap) should have reduced.
Unseen work
15-12-2022, 11:14 AM
I think this is exactly the type of signing we should be steering well clear of currently.
Untried and not tested.
Big no where Hibs are at just now
It’s a shame because I think I’m and Stephen Kelly (signed for Livi) are two young players we should have signed. Both really good young players, played a decent amount of games in England and Scotland and have quality along with a good attitude.
But our squad is too bloated so they wouldn’t fit in.
In an ideal world they younger players in our squad would be guys like them who have room to improve and price themselves whilst learning from more experienced players.
CapitalGreen
15-12-2022, 11:14 AM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/scott-robertson-relishing-celtic-exit-28735134?int_source=nba
Wouldn’t surprise me if we were all over this.
Young player granted but a very good one at that and one that would be a first team player straight away.
You would hope so. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Scott Brown sign him, definitely the type of player he’d appreciate.
Fergus52
15-12-2022, 05:21 PM
Hibs should be due to publish our accounts soon though and that Turnover (and wage bill gap) should have reduced.
True!
In those figures I posted we were a year behind hearts and Aberdeen so it will likely have narrowed a bit like you said
JammyDoidger
15-12-2022, 06:17 PM
Absolutely no chance of that. On most recent published accounts Hearts and Aberdeens wage bills were 11.2 and 10.2 million per year respectively and ours was only 6.6. Even when you account for things like catering being in house for them, I can't imagine that making up a difference of more than 1 million at most.
Our wage bill is closer to Motherwell, Dundee Utd, St Mirren and Ross County (which range from 3.2 million to 5.9 million) than it is to Aberdeen. We aren't shopping in the same market for players as them or Hearts unfortunately.
Based on the evidence above, a lot higher than many on this board would guess. There's rumours we're paying Boyle 8 or 9k a week with a similar deal offered to Porteous - think Aberdeen's and Hearts highest earners will be on a wee bit more.
If this is the case and our wage budget is that much lower than their's it makes me question the point tbh, although it's even more reason why we need to be so careful in the transfer market, spending hundreds of thousands on untried foreign youngsters probably isn't the model we should be looking at if we only have that as a budget, maybe free agents at first team standard and hitting them with a signing on fee may be better for us.
GreenNWhiteArmy
17-12-2022, 11:27 AM
Surely not...
bit.ly/3BEG3HG
Link not fully embedded, basically the sun saying we might let Cabraja move on?
Bridge hibs
17-12-2022, 11:31 AM
Surely not...
bit.ly/3BEG3HG
Link not fully embedded, basically the sun saying we might let Cabraja move on?That will please a few on here
Blaster
17-12-2022, 11:34 AM
Surely not...
bit.ly/3BEG3HG
Link not fully embedded, basically the sun saying we might let Cabraja move on?
Heard this the other day. We need better
Unseen work
17-12-2022, 11:42 AM
Would be disappointed, I think he’s a good player and one of the last I’d be moving on - genuinely be at about 5-10 I’d think of before him
All comes down to how much he is earning, can it be better used elsewhere, if we can get a fee for him and who we already have.
Johnson may think Stevenson, Mitchell and McIntyre is sufficient to cover left back/wing back if we play a flat 4 or 352.
Also need to remember he lost his dad a couple of months ago so may be a family decision.
JohnM1875
17-12-2022, 11:44 AM
Could be that Cabraja wants away? Just can't see us looking to sell a player so soon. Especially one who showed what he was capable of first few games.
raeburnhibs
17-12-2022, 11:44 AM
Would be disappointed, I think he’s a good player and one of the last I’d be moving on - genuinely be at about 5-10 I’d think of before him
All comes down to how much he is earning, can it be better used elsewhere, if we can get a fee for him and who we already have.
Johnson may think Stevenson, Mitchell and McIntyre is sufficient to cover left back/wing back if we play a flat 4 or 352.
Also need to remember he lost his dad a couple of months ago so may be a family decision.
Mitchell is no cover for anyone
supermcginn
17-12-2022, 11:46 AM
Could be that Cabraja wants away? Just can't see us looking to sell a player so soon. Especially one who showed what he was capable of first few games.
Yes. Can't blame him wanting to go home after what happened with his dad.
Unseen work
17-12-2022, 11:47 AM
Mitchell is no cover for anyone
Oh WE know that, but will the club count him 🤣
He’s one I can see going in January
JohnM1875
17-12-2022, 11:48 AM
Mitchell is no cover for anyone
Mitchell is the one I hope we get rid of. It's for such a petty reason as well, I had to unfollow him cause I was sick of his posts about his clothing range 😂.
jeffers
17-12-2022, 11:58 AM
Mitchell is the one I hope we get rid of. It's for such a petty reason as well, I had to unfollow him cause I was sick of his posts about his clothing range 😂.
Mitchell, Cabraja and Bojang were three names I’d heard we were looking to move on. I’ve ultimately been pretty disappointed with Cabraja and the less said about the other two the better.
Unseen work
17-12-2022, 12:06 PM
Mitchell, Cabraja and Bojang were three names I’d heard we were looking to move on. I’ve ultimately been pretty disappointed with Cabraja and the less said about the other two the better.
Other than the odd cross that leaves you scratching your head I’ve been happy with him.
Surely down to personal reasons or being on a high wage.
Mitchell and Bojang wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. I’d also be terminating Youan’s loan and selling Dabrowski for his own sake and keep Schofield on loan with Johnson back up
There’s 5 straight away without effecting our squad a great deal
Donegal Hibby
17-12-2022, 12:11 PM
Other than the odd cross that leaves you scratching your head I’ve been happy with him.
Surely down to personal reasons or being on a high wage.
Mitchell and Bojang wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. I’d also be terminating Youan’s loan and selling Dabrowski for his own sake and keep Schofield on loan with Johnson back up
There’s 5 straight away without effecting our squad a great deal
Another link to cabraja story , with them saying we might move on several.
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/marijan-cabraja-set-shock-hibs-25776951
Tyler Durden
17-12-2022, 12:15 PM
Mitchell is the one I hope we get rid of. It's for such a petty reason as well, I had to unfollow him cause I was sick of his posts about his clothing range 😂.
Is it that petty? He doesn’t really seem interested in playing football.
Maybe made decent cash from his early Man Utd deals and that’s made him a bit too comfortable. Currently wasting his talent as he could be a great player at this level
jeffers
17-12-2022, 12:16 PM
Other than the odd cross that leaves you scratching your head I’ve been happy with him.
Surely down to personal reasons or being on a high wage.
Mitchell and Bojang wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. I’d also be terminating Youan’s loan and selling Dabrowski for his own sake and keep Schofield on loan with Johnson back up
There’s 5 straight away without effecting our squad a great deal
He’s not the worst player in our squad, nowhere near, but he’s nothing special and I’d argue if LS was getting regular games he’d offer just as much. I always find it a bit strange he usually gets subbed for LS. I have zero info, but it wouldn’t surprise me if we are paying him decent money.
Tbh bar Marshall, Boyle, Nisbet and Kukharevych I’m sure there could be an argument for getting rid of every other player in the squad and not really miss them.
MrRobot
17-12-2022, 12:18 PM
Would be a shame to see Cabraja leave.
We really do need to get a proper transfer strategy in place. See there was somebody saying on twitter that Ian Gordon is no longer involved in transfers
Torto7
17-12-2022, 01:01 PM
Would be a shame to see Cabraja leave.
We really do need to get a proper transfer strategy in place. See there was somebody saying on twitter that Ian Gordon is no longer involved in transfers
He wasn't that involved in the first place. People on here just want someone to blame. Ron will want his laddie to learn the club inside out. Nothing wrong with that.
allezsauzee
17-12-2022, 01:01 PM
Mitchell is no cover for anyone
I reckon Graham Mitchell would still be a better option at 60 years old than Demi
DC_Hibs
17-12-2022, 01:10 PM
selling Dabrowski for his own sake
I’d be interested to hear what fee you think we could get got him and who would be interested in paying for our 24 year old 3rd choice keeper.
Unseen work
17-12-2022, 01:33 PM
I’d be interested to hear what fee you think we could get got him and who would be interested in paying for our 24 year old 3rd choice keeper.
I mean sell as in just get rid of him, not necessarily receiving a fee.
SHODAN
17-12-2022, 01:45 PM
Would be a shame to see Cabraja leave.
We really do need to get a proper transfer strategy in place. See there was somebody saying on twitter that Ian Gordon is no longer involved in transfers
Best move of the whole window if true.
Jones28
17-12-2022, 01:48 PM
Best move of the whole window if true.
An unsigning.
I really am staggered at just how dreadfully this has all been handled.
jeffers
17-12-2022, 01:49 PM
He wasn't that involved in the first place. People on here just want someone to blame. Ron will want his laddie to learn the club inside out. Nothing wrong with that.
I think you are totally wrong and his involvement is far greater than Ron has ever acknowledged.
I reckon Graham Mitchell would still be a better option at 60 years old than Demi
Great guy Graham use to provided complimentary tickets to my father in law and me for the old main stand, happy days.
Paulie Walnuts
17-12-2022, 01:56 PM
He wasn't that involved in the first place. People on here just want someone to blame. Ron will want his laddie to learn the club inside out. Nothing wrong with that.
The Head of Recruitment is heavily involved in recruitment.
You don’t give someone that title if they aren’t really all that involved in it.
The guy has been an absolute disaster and was a joke of an appointment.
chippy
17-12-2022, 02:15 PM
Mitchell is the one I hope we get rid of. It's for such a petty reason as well, I had to unfollow him cause I was sick of his posts about his clothing range 😂.
Post of the year
SHODAN
17-12-2022, 02:34 PM
Mitchell is the one I hope we get rid of. It's for such a petty reason as well, I had to unfollow him cause I was sick of his posts about his clothing range 😂.
Fair.
mcfly
17-12-2022, 02:38 PM
Seriously wouldn’t be getting rid of cabraja.
Plenty in front of him to be moved on.
Seriously it’s concerning what is going on a hibs just now. Unless we get some quality in January this lot will be relegated
No fight no quality
Donegal Hibby
17-12-2022, 02:58 PM
Mitchell is the one I hope we get rid of. It's for such a petty reason as well, I had to unfollow him cause I was sick of his posts about his clothing range 😂.
Wonder if that's were Mckirdy is getting his gear from ?😂
HIBS NUTS
17-12-2022, 03:02 PM
I think you are totally wrong and his involvement is far greater than Ron has ever acknowledged.
My friend is involved with refs , when at easter road, he goes to the board room area at HT.
Ron gordon’s son, had said to him about how poor our recruitment had been.
😳😳😳😳😳😳
Paulie Walnuts
17-12-2022, 03:03 PM
Seriously wouldn’t be getting rid of cabraja.
Plenty in front of him to be moved on.
Seriously it’s concerning what is going on a hibs just now. Unless we get some quality in January this lot will be relegated
No fight no quality
The problem will be you can’t pick out the 5 or so worst players and hope we just move all them on.
I’d suspect there’ll be a fair sized group who we’ll be willing to let go and we’ll do that knowing that it might be some of the better ones as they’ll be the ones that get interest.
Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s 10 or so players free to a good home in January but they’ll not all go.
Vault Boy
17-12-2022, 03:44 PM
There’s definitely a player in Cabby. Without counting them out individually, there’s probably at least 6/7 players I’d move on before him. Not exactly an area we’re rich in cover for either.
If they have a contingency plan to sign a better left back, then of course I’m all for it. But call me a skeptic.
Bridge hibs
17-12-2022, 03:53 PM
There’s definitely a player in Cabby. Without counting them out individually, there’s probably at least 6/7 players I’d move on before him. Not exactly an area we’re rich in cover for either.
If they have a contingency plan to sign a better left back, then of course I’m all for it. But call me a skeptic.January transfer window is going to be very interesting, not sure how many players we will shift but we need a bit of quality coming in. Bit of a gamble if Cabraja goes, moreso if we are planning on playing a young lad in there with Stevenson as back up. January is not a window for wholesale changes
There’s definitely a player in Cabby. Without counting them out individually, there’s probably at least 6/7 players I’d move on before him. Not exactly an area we’re rich in cover for either.
If they have a contingency plan to sign a better left back, then of course I’m all for it. But call me a skeptic.
I’ve heard it’s more from the players side rather than us wanting to shift him on, I think it makes sense his form took a huge dip since the passing of his dad it wouldn’t be surprising he’s struggling abroad without his family after that
Scotty Leither
17-12-2022, 04:15 PM
My friend is involved with refs , when at easter road, he goes to the board room area at HT.
Ron gordon’s son, had said to him about how poor our recruitment had been.
😳😳😳😳😳😳
I heard he said that too. If there's any truth in it he's either deluded, or you couldn't mark his neck with a blowtorch.
If he does think that, maybe he should consider telling his old man to sack the Head of Recrutiment?
Cod Boy
17-12-2022, 07:36 PM
The boy power from Killie looks decent gets the boot in and can pick a pass
percy veer
17-12-2022, 07:40 PM
the boy power from killie looks decent gets the boot in and can pick a pass
he would be sent off constantly with hibs
Unseen work
17-12-2022, 07:43 PM
The boy power from Killie looks decent gets the boot in and can pick a pass
Alan Power?
5 years ago yes, not now though
The Modfather
17-12-2022, 07:49 PM
The boy power from Killie looks decent gets the boot in and can pick a pass
He’s 34 now so not the answer, but him and Dicker were an excellent, if unglamorous midfield for Killmarnock for a number of years. When they added Malumbu and Steve Clarke they punched ridiculously above their weight for a season or two. The importance of a string and balanced midfield.
SMAXXA
17-12-2022, 09:09 PM
I’d heard millwall had offers Porto 30k a week as not having to pay a transfer fee. Half a dozen championship clubs keen with fee hoping to get promoted this year
Unseen work
17-12-2022, 09:29 PM
I’d heard millwall had offers Porto 30k a week as not having to pay a transfer fee. Half a dozen championship clubs keen with fee hoping to get promoted this year
Millwall? 30k?!
Surely not.
The game is ruined teams like that are playing even half of that!
SMAXXA
17-12-2022, 09:33 PM
Millwall? 30k?!
Surely not.
The game is ruined teams like that are playing even half of that!
I have no idea mate only what I was told earlier.
NORTHERNHIBBY
17-12-2022, 09:33 PM
I’d heard millwall had offers Porto 30k a week as not having to pay a transfer fee. Half a dozen championship clubs keen with fee hoping to get promoted this year
That's who I was told that he was signing for before the start of the season.
SMAXXA
17-12-2022, 09:38 PM
That's who I was told that he was signing for before the start of the season.
They wanted him before the season started
bingo70
17-12-2022, 09:42 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9937943/hull-preparing-bid-ryan-porteous/
Hull the first club to make their move for Porteous.
NORTHERNHIBBY
17-12-2022, 09:43 PM
They wanted him before the season started
That's what I meant 😀
Is It On....
17-12-2022, 09:47 PM
Millwall? 30k?!
Surely not.
The game is ruined teams like that are playing even half of that!
Millwall bought a Dutch guy in the summer for £1.7m [they call him The Bermondsey Bergkamp] so they are not short of money at the moment. They think this could be the year they go up so there could be some credence in them trying to sign him.
Donegal Hibby
17-12-2022, 11:36 PM
I’d heard millwall had offers Porto 30k a week as not having to pay a transfer fee. Half a dozen championship clubs keen with fee hoping to get promoted this year
Personally I think you'd need 30k a week to go play for Millwall , Great money but s***e club career wise to go too imo
Haymaker
18-12-2022, 12:58 AM
Personally I think you'd need 30k a week to go play for Millwall , Great money but s***e club career wise to go too imo
****hole as well
Bridge hibs
18-12-2022, 05:47 AM
I’d heard millwall had offers Porto 30k a week as not having to pay a transfer fee. Half a dozen championship clubs keen with fee hoping to get promoted this year
If thats the wages being touted then I would expect a few future prospective employers will be dropping out of the running, I can imagine that celtc biscuit tin getting rattled around the board room as we speak 🤣 cant imagine Hull, previously mentioned being able to afford that either, all though to be fair Im not sure of their financial status, nor Millwalls for that matter
Blaster
18-12-2022, 06:46 AM
Udinese are keen apparently with him going to Watford on loan first. Same owners I think
Since90+2
18-12-2022, 06:46 AM
****hole as well
I'm guessing it's not mandatory to live in Bermondsey as a Millwall player.
Iain G
18-12-2022, 07:21 AM
I'm guessing it's not mandatory to live in Bermondsey as a Millwall player.
Would very happily live around Bermondsey Street!
GreenGray
18-12-2022, 10:27 AM
In the least surprising news of all time Snodgrass seemingly doing brilliantly at those gunts over the city.
Why as a club we don’t sign players of his calibre, quality and experience due to their age I’ll never know. Crying out for someone like that.
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bigwheel
18-12-2022, 10:29 AM
In the least surprising news of all time Snodgrass seemingly doing brilliantly at those gunts over the city.
Why as a club we don’t sign players of his calibre, quality and experience due to their age I’ll never know. Crying out for someone like that.
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Both Snodgrass and Mackay were free agents when signed by Hearts . Both No brainer signings ..we came in late for Mackay, but Hearts had been speaking to him and already got him to buy in to what they were doing …
bingo70
18-12-2022, 10:32 AM
In the least surprising news of all time Snodgrass seemingly doing brilliantly at those gunts over the city.
Why as a club we don’t sign players of his calibre, quality and experience due to their age I’ll never know. Crying out for someone like that.
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Because if we want him and Hearts want him, he goes to hearts as they pay bigger wages than us and in all honesty are a better side than us just now.
GreenGray
18-12-2022, 10:33 AM
Because if we want him and Hearts want him, he goes to hearts as they pay bigger wages than us and in all honesty are a better side than us just now.
True but our signing strategy shows we’re not even interested or looking at these sort of players which is worrying in itself.
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bingo70
18-12-2022, 10:37 AM
True but our signing strategy shows we’re not even interested or looking at these sort of players which is worrying in itself.
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David Marshall and Aiden McGeady?
Bridge hibs
18-12-2022, 10:40 AM
True but our signing strategy shows we’re not even interested or looking at these sort of players which is worrying in itself.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkApart from looking at and signing McGeady and Marshall as well as the above mentioned McKay who we looked at. We dont know who hibs are looking at other than whats been mentioned in the press or other media outlets. We have a wage budget which probably wont realistically compete with them over the road so we fish in other ponds
GreenGray
18-12-2022, 10:58 AM
David Marshall and Aiden McGeady?
True, and Marshall is showing how important these sort of signings can be.
Suppose it’s just frustrating when we’re crying out for a midfielder I think snodgrass would have been perfect. But as you say if hearts are interested the option of more money and European football it will always be an easy choice for the player.
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blackpoolhibs
18-12-2022, 11:01 AM
True, and Marshall is showing how important these sort of signings can be.
Suppose it’s just frustrating when we’re crying out for a midfielder I think snodgrass would have been perfect. But as you say if hearts are interested the option of more money and European football it will always be an easy choice for the player.
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No surprise there when we waste our money on dross and spread it as thinly as we do on punts for the future.
chippy
18-12-2022, 11:37 AM
Apart from looking at and signing McGeady and Marshall as well as the above mentioned McKay who we looked at. We dont know who hibs are looking at other than whats been mentioned in the press or other media outlets. We have a wage budget which probably wont realistically compete with them over the road so we fish in other ponds
Rather than waste money on the development team punts and other punts like Bojang, would the money spent on that have made it possible to get closer to what the Jambos were offering Mackay and Snodgrass
Bridge hibs
18-12-2022, 11:48 AM
Rather than waste money on the development team punts and other punts like Bojang, would the money spent on that have made it possible to get closer to what the Jambos were offering Mackay and SnodgrassI dont know as I dont know what they earn and what we pay. Signing any player is a gamble whether young potential or vastly experienced 34 or 35 year olds. Hearts signed Snodgrass for the season so probably worth the punt if he stays clear of injury. We signed McGeady and he ended up with an injury that kept him out for months
The rangers signed Souttar from hearts and thus far has been injured and has barely kicked a ball
I get the signings of young players and we need the blend of experience and youthful energy. It just hasnt worked out and hopefully come January we will see one or two leave with one or two in, however it remains to be seen if we have learned our lesson from previous recruitments
chippy
18-12-2022, 11:53 AM
I dont know as I dont know what they earn and what we pay. Signing any player is a gamble whether young potential or vastly experienced 34 or 35 year olds. Hearts signed Snodgrass for the season so probably worth the punt if he stays clear of injury. We signed McGeady and he ended up with an injury that kept him out for months
The rangers signed Souttar from hearts and thus far has been injured and has barely kicked a ball
I get the signings of young players and we need the blend of experience and youthful energy. It just hasnt worked out and hopefully come January we will see one or two leave with one or two in, however it remains to be seen if we have learned our lesson from previous recruitments
Ok no one knows the deals, but in general the funds we spent on projects could have been deployed to sign arguably 3 or 4 quality players. Even 2 would make a difference. The rest of the squad rise up when quality is put into the team and youngsters have a pathway and can be protected more when starting off in the team
blackpoolhibs
18-12-2022, 01:16 PM
Ok no one knows the deals, but in general the funds we spent on projects could have been deployed to sign arguably 3 or 4 quality players. Even 2 would make a difference. The rest of the squad rise up when quality is put into the team and youngsters have a pathway and can be protected more when starting off in the team
Far too sensible.
Scotty Leither
18-12-2022, 02:58 PM
In the least surprising news of all time Snodgrass seemingly doing brilliantly at those gunts over the city.
Why as a club we don’t sign players of his calibre, quality and experience due to their age I’ll never know. Crying out for someone like that.
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Ian Gordon wouldn’t know a decent player if he kicked him in the arse.
matty_f
18-12-2022, 03:10 PM
Ian Gordon wouldn’t know a decent player if he kicked him in the arse.
Surely the power and accuracy of the kick would give him some indication?
Paulie Walnuts
18-12-2022, 03:11 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9937943/hull-preparing-bid-ryan-porteous/
Hull the first club to make their move for Porteous.
Hull lol.
I get it’s more money, but **** that. What a ****hole.
bigwheel
18-12-2022, 03:16 PM
Hull lol.
I get it’s more money, but **** that. What a ****hole.
There’s beautiful countryside outside of Hull. Andy Robertson got his Liverpool move from there ..good level of football ..surely you can recognise the many positives of a move to a club like that
Paulie Walnuts
18-12-2022, 03:20 PM
There’s beautiful countryside outside of Hull. Andy Robertson got his Liverpool move from there ..good level of football ..surely you can recognise the many positives of a move to a club like that
From a football point of view and a financial point of view, I can recognise that it makes sense.
From a personal point of view in terms of life outside football I can’t think of anything worse than living somewhere like Hull. I’ve been before for work and it is an absolute hole imo.
bigwheel
18-12-2022, 03:22 PM
From a football point of view and a financial point of view, I can recognise that it makes sense.
From a personal point of view in terms of life outside football I can’t think of anything worse than living somewhere like Hull. I’ve been before for work and it is an absolute hole imo.
You’ve gone for work ..so surely Porto can go for work if he fancies it ..he’s not Likely to be staying in the city of Hull. North Yorkshire has loads of great places to live .
Paulie Walnuts
18-12-2022, 03:34 PM
You’ve gone for work ..so surely Porto can go for work if he fancies it ..he’s not Likely to be staying in the city of Hull. North Yorkshire has loads of great places to live .
Yes, I’ve been for a night or two. It’s quite different to three or four years there :greengrin
bigwheel
18-12-2022, 03:39 PM
Yes, I’ve been for a night or two. It’s quite different to three or four years there :greengrin
Haha. Fair point. Tbh. It’s just the first club mentioned - not worth debating . But I can see the positives of the move if it were to happen
Paulie Walnuts
18-12-2022, 03:40 PM
Haha. Fair point. Tbh. It’s just the first club mentioned - not worth debating . But I can see the positives of the move if it were to happen
Yeah there’s definitely positives to the move for him.
Argentina hanging on hoping to make extra time.
Bostonhibby
18-12-2022, 03:58 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9937943/hull-preparing-bid-ryan-porteous/
Hull the first club to make their move for Porteous.I'd hope he does better than them to be honest, unless they give us the most money[emoji16]
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Had Wednesday fans contact me about RP they defo after him.
Iain G
18-12-2022, 04:04 PM
Argentina hanging on hoping to make extra time.
Wrong thread? 😁
04Sauzee
18-12-2022, 04:04 PM
Had Wednesday fans contact me about RP they defo after him.
He'd be daft going to Wednesday, they are absolutely brutal and I'd be surprised if their manager sees out the season. They aren't guaranteed promotion and could still be 1st Division.
I doubt he's Wednesday bound.
delbert
18-12-2022, 04:07 PM
Ian Gordon wouldn’t know a decent player if he kicked him in the arse.
Yup, the idiot son should stick to selling wine because his spell in the job created for him by Daddy has been nothing short of catastrophic
marinello59
18-12-2022, 04:10 PM
Yup, the idiot son should stick to selling wine because his spell in the job created for him by Daddy has been nothing short of catastrophic
My Dad always used to say the idiot son went to sea. I went to sea.:greengrin
Young Gordon may not be producing the goods but let’s not call him an idiot, no need.
chippy
18-12-2022, 04:16 PM
Had Wednesday fans contact me about RP they defo after him.
Great place to live. Great real ale pubs , countryside - Peak District . Decent club, big support potential . Good folk , once the capital of the socialist republic of South Yorkshire
He'd be daft going to Wednesday, they are absolutely brutal and I'd be surprised if their manager sees out the season. They aren't guaranteed promotion and could still be 1st Division.
I doubt he's Wednesday bound.
My mates a season ticket holder. He said was talk of it yesterday but agree doubt will be going there.
My Dad always used to say the idiot son went to sea. I went to sea.:greengrin
Young Gordon may not be producing the goods but let’s not call him an idiot, no need.
So did I ⛵
Donegal Hibby
18-12-2022, 06:25 PM
He'd be daft going to Wednesday, they are absolutely brutal and I'd be surprised if their manager sees out the season. They aren't guaranteed promotion and could still be 1st Division.
I doubt he's Wednesday bound.
If it was me I'd rather go to wednesday than Hull or Millwall
Hibiza
18-12-2022, 07:44 PM
Porto ...
Goodbye.:bye:
Libby Hibby
18-12-2022, 08:14 PM
In the least surprising news of all time Snodgrass seemingly doing brilliantly at those gunts over the city.
Why as a club we don’t sign players of his calibre, quality and experience due to their age I’ll never know. Crying out for someone like that.
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You could argue McGeady was ours
GreenGray
18-12-2022, 10:12 PM
You could argue McGeady was ours
Snodgrass was playing in the Prem as recent as a few years ago though. McGeady been in league 1 for Sunderland, wouldn’t say they really compare unfortunately
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basehibby
18-12-2022, 10:53 PM
Ok no one knows the deals, but in general the funds we spent on projects could have been deployed to sign arguably 3 or 4 quality players. Even 2 would make a difference. The rest of the squad rise up when quality is put into the team and youngsters have a pathway and can be protected more when starting off in the team
Agree with this criticism. Nothing wrong with the odd "project" signing but we need players that can play a part in improving the team in the here and now to truly progress.
Libby Hibby
19-12-2022, 06:43 AM
Snodgrass was playing in the Prem as recent as a few years ago though. McGeady been in league 1 for Sunderland, wouldn’t say they really compare unfortunately
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I’d say they are very similar players in calibre, quality, experience and age to which you set the parameters initially.
I canny really be bothered in getting down to the nitty gritty with you but to dismiss McGeady just because Snodgrass has played Premiership football in the last 4 years is splitting hairs imo.
McGeady, hopefully after his injury will prove just as effective as Snodgrass in this league.
Just_Jimmy
19-12-2022, 08:24 AM
He'd be daft going to Wednesday, they are absolutely brutal and I'd be surprised if their manager sees out the season. They aren't guaranteed promotion and could still be 1st Division.
I doubt he's Wednesday bound.They're 3rd, 2 points off 2nd and 11 above 7th. They've had a decent season so far and have every chance of going up. They have, however, drawn their last 3 I think. They're a proper football club and Yorkshire is beautiful.
I also think there's a few on here crediting RP as having a better pick of clubs than he will.
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SMAXXA
19-12-2022, 08:28 AM
I also think there's a few on here crediting RP as having a better pick of clubs than he will.
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Don’t be so sure
GreenGray
19-12-2022, 08:30 AM
I’d say they are very similar players in calibre, quality, experience and age to which you set the parameters initially.
I canny really be bothered in getting down to the nitty gritty with you but to dismiss McGeady just because Snodgrass has played Premiership football in the last 4 years is splitting hairs imo.
McGeady, hopefully after his injury will prove just as effective as Snodgrass in this league.
Calibre and quality I’d have to disagree to be honest, at this age anyway.
When both players are finished at their clubs I think it’s fairly certain to say Snodgrass will have been the better signing.
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Glory Lurker
19-12-2022, 12:45 PM
John McGinn was in Edinburgh at the weekend. There can surely only be one explanation? What a coup getting him back will be. Hope it gets announced on Christmas Day itself. I'm like a bairn again!
:-)
HerbDailly
19-12-2022, 12:52 PM
John McGinn was in Edinburgh at the weekend. There can surely only be one explanation? What a coup getting him back will be. Hope it gets announced on Christmas Day itself. I'm like a bairn again!
:-)He was indeed I've seen photos
Billy Whizz
19-12-2022, 01:01 PM
John McGinn was in Edinburgh at the weekend. There can surely only be one explanation? What a coup getting him back will be. Hope it gets announced on Christmas Day itself. I'm like a bairn again!
:-)
Did someone not say he’s getting a house built in Edinburgh?
Unseen work
19-12-2022, 05:15 PM
https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1604880928278560768?s=46&t=u9nY91nTterQijZYGGQz1A
Bojang to leave but Cabraja to stay.
Not in the article but I heard there was a couple of English clubs interested in Campbell.
The Modfather
19-12-2022, 05:22 PM
https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1604880928278560768?s=46&t=u9nY91nTterQijZYGGQz1A
Bojang to leave but Cabraja to stay.
Not in the article but I heard there was a couple of English clubs interested in Campbell.
Other than Marshall and Boyle, I think we’re at a stage where if any of our players are drawing interest, particularly if we can get a fee, then we should allow them to move/move them on. Long since time cull this squad and might not be easy to start with the low hanging fruit that are the obvious candidates to move on.
B.H.F.C
19-12-2022, 05:40 PM
Other than Marshall and Boyle, I think we’re at a stage where if any of our players are drawing interest, particularly if we can get a fee, then we should allow them to move/move them on. Long since time cull this squad and might not be easy to start with the low hanging fruit that are the obvious candidates to move on.
Agree with the above. Would add Nisbet to the small list of players to keep. And I’d probably have Magennis on his last chance between now and the end of the season.
Think we’d be daft not to consider offers for the rest of them though, if there is interest in any of them. With Bojang looking likely to leave, and Bradley already away, it doesn’t look like we’re hanging about to be fair.
Donegal Hibby
19-12-2022, 05:46 PM
Hertz are rumoured to have signed some Japanese striker
Iain G
19-12-2022, 06:32 PM
Hertz are rumoured to have signed some Japanese striker
Plenty of strikers to chose from in the UK this Christmas 🤣
Stuart93
19-12-2022, 06:56 PM
Hertz are rumoured to have signed some Japanese striker
Looks like pending a work permit
Hopefully we aren’t long behind
Paulie Walnuts
19-12-2022, 07:11 PM
Hertz are rumoured to have signed some Japanese striker
Young laddie, not scored all that many goals.
Impossible to tell what he’ll be like from his stats I reckon.
Donegal Hibby
19-12-2022, 07:22 PM
Young laddie, not scored all that many goals.
Impossible to tell what he’ll be like from his stats I reckon.
I thought that too when I checked his stats . Reason I checked them is because I panicked when I read the article calling him the Japanese Mbappe 😂
xyz23jc
19-12-2022, 07:33 PM
I thought that too when I checked his stats . Reason I checked them is because I panicked when I read the article calling him the Japanese Mbappe 😂
Whit! Anither hat-trick loser? Poor man's Joe Harper! LoL! :wink::greengrin
Libby Hibby
19-12-2022, 07:39 PM
Hertz are rumoured to have signed some Japanese striker
Remember when they signed some Japanese striker a few years back, who was meant to be the best thing ever…he turned out to be pony
Bridge hibs
19-12-2022, 07:56 PM
Remember when they signed some Japanese striker a few years back, who was meant to be the best thing ever…he turned out to be pony Ryotaro Meshino, 3 goals in around 20 games I think
Unseen work
19-12-2022, 08:01 PM
Ryotaro Meshino, 3 goals in around 20 games I think
Actually thought he was a good young player, never helped being part of a brutal hearts team
Glory Lurker
19-12-2022, 08:16 PM
Remember when they signed some Japanese striker a few years back, who was meant to be the best thing ever…he turned out to be pony
Do they still have their website in Japanese?
Since452
19-12-2022, 08:19 PM
https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1604880928278560768?s=46&t=u9nY91nTterQijZYGGQz1A
Bojang to leave but Cabraja to stay.
Not in the article but I heard there was a couple of English clubs interested in Campbell.
Bad news about Tait at the end of that article.
Steve Austin
19-12-2022, 08:21 PM
Do they still have their website in Japanese?
Hearts signing Japanese striker,we got bojang and Tavares ,youan ,mckirdy ?
Hearts have a director of football and seem to be signing decent players dare I mention it.
Our signing policy and recruiting is lacking severely indeed:confused:
Allant1981
19-12-2022, 08:26 PM
Hearts signing Japanese striker,we got bojang and Tavares ,youan ,mckirdy ?
Hearts have a director of football and seem to be signing decent players dare I mention it.
Our signing policy and recruiting is lacking severely indeed:confused:
Let's wait and see how good this Japanese player is before we go having another pop at the club
SMAXXA
19-12-2022, 08:32 PM
Hearts signing Japanese striker,we got bojang and Tavares ,youan ,mckirdy ?
Hearts have a director of football and seem to be signing decent players dare I mention it.
Our signing policy and recruiting is lacking severely indeed:confused:
He’s had a year in the first team I’m sure so bar Tavares the other 3 were on paper far safer signings that this lad if your going for tried and tested. Weird pop at the club that
Glory Lurker
19-12-2022, 08:40 PM
Hearts signing Japanese striker,we got bojang and Tavares ,youan ,mckirdy ?
Hearts have a director of football and seem to be signing decent players dare I mention it.
Our signing policy and recruiting is lacking severely indeed:confused:
Aye, but do they still have their Japanese website that they set up to tap in to the Jambo-mad Japanese market?
Tyler Durden
19-12-2022, 08:44 PM
Hearts signing Japanese striker,we got bojang and Tavares ,youan ,mckirdy ?
Hearts have a director of football and seem to be signing decent players dare I mention it.
Our signing policy and recruiting is lacking severely indeed:confused:
Decent players like Lewis Neilson, Kio, Jorge Grant for example? Their success rate hasn’t been that great this season.
Donegal Hibby
19-12-2022, 08:45 PM
Remember when they signed some Japanese striker a few years back, who was meant to be the best thing ever…he turned out to be pony
Yeah best thing since sliced bread according to there fans , I even remember them getting carried away when they signed Czech striker " David Vanecek , 2nd game for them and Craig Levein said his performance rubbish, you must be bad when Levein thinks you are 😂
Mrimbetween
19-12-2022, 09:29 PM
Does it really matter who they sign, no doubt a couple more for them coming in as well
Who will we be signing more importantly ??
Silky
19-12-2022, 09:30 PM
Hearts signing Japanese striker,we got bojang and Tavares ,youan ,mckirdy ?
Hearts have a director of football and seem to be signing decent players dare I mention it.
Our signing policy and recruiting is lacking severely indeed:confused:
Why? What's so special about the Japanese boy? That's some statement to make with no evidence to support it.
Silky
19-12-2022, 09:33 PM
Does it really matter who they sign, no doubt a couple more for them coming in as well
Who will we be signing more importantly ??
Doesn't matter at all. I don't get the obsession. I don't give a toss, personally and certainly won't be pissing the bed every rime someone is linked with/signs for them. I'd rather focus on a Hibs and who we sign or let go.
IberianHibernian
19-12-2022, 09:45 PM
Hearts signing Japanese striker,we got bojang and Tavares ,youan ,mckirdy ?
Hearts have a director of football and seem to be signing decent players dare I mention it.
Our signing policy and recruiting is lacking severely indeed:confused:Do you know anything about the Japanese player who may sign for Hearts ? Do you know how much Hearts recruitment team are getting paid ? Enough to justify 5th in league , LC exit v Killie and being outplayed in 6 out of 8 games in new Intertoto Cup with only points gained against a team which was lucky to beat a team from the league in north of Ireland ?
Unseen work
19-12-2022, 09:55 PM
Supporters always think other teams signings are better. Aberdeen this summer is the prime example
Richardson
Stewart
Roberts
Ramadani
Morris
All been criticised, called not good enough or hardly featured.
They seemed to have got it right with Miovski though by paying a high fee, good goals return from him and then Duk seems a really good find too.
EGL2000
19-12-2022, 10:02 PM
Supporters always think other teams signings are better. Aberdeen this summer is the prime example
Richardson
Stewart
Roberts
Ramadani
Morris
All been criticised, called not good enough or hardly featured.
They seemed to have got it right with Miovski though by paying a high fee, good goals return from him and then Duk seems a really good find too.
Ramadani had been fairly solid. Some of the best numbers in the league in multiple stats. Roos in net also looks a decent signing and the boy Clarkson.
Unseen work
19-12-2022, 10:09 PM
Ramadani had been fairly solid. Some of the best numbers in the league in multiple stats. Roos in net also looks a decent signing and the boy Clarkson.
I’m just going by what my Aberdeen supporting mates say. They like him at times but often criticise his inability to play forward and think they need better.
Fans change their mind every week on players though 🤣
EGL2000
19-12-2022, 10:10 PM
I’m just going by what my Aberdeen supporting mates say. They like him at times but often criticise his inability to play forward and think they need better.
Fans change their mind every week on players though 🤣
To be fair think I seen those stats around mid October so could have dropped off a cliff since then.
EGL2000
19-12-2022, 10:14 PM
Motherwell sign CB Shane Blaney from Sligo Rovers.
MWHIBBIES
20-12-2022, 04:21 AM
Hearts signing Japanese striker,we got bojang and Tavares ,youan ,mckirdy ?
Hearts have a director of football and seem to be signing decent players dare I mention it.
Our signing policy and recruiting is lacking severely indeed:confused:
Hibs sign Portuguese winger while hearts sign crap like Jorge grant etc?
See how easy that is.
cameronw-hfc
20-12-2022, 04:35 AM
Motherwell sign CB Shane Blaney from Sligo Rovers.
Can't be that good. Just signed him on fm for Blyth Spartans 😂
Bridge hibs
20-12-2022, 05:24 AM
Hearts signing Japanese striker,we got bojang and Tavares ,youan ,mckirdy ?
Hearts have a director of football and seem to be signing decent players dare I mention it.
Our signing policy and recruiting is lacking severely indeed:confused:How good is he, take it you have seen a lot of him ?
Unseen work
20-12-2022, 06:55 AM
Hearts signing Japanese striker,we got bojang and Tavares ,youan ,mckirdy ?
Hearts have a director of football and seem to be signing decent players dare I mention it.
Our signing policy and recruiting is lacking severely indeed:confused:
Youan looked like he would be a great addition on paper and started off like he was.
McKirdy was seen as a bit of a coup with the goals and swagger we were missing
From the off we were told Tavares would take time and to be patient
This new Hearts boy has scored 2 goals I think? I’m quite a few games. He may be brilliant, he may be terrible.
There really isn’t too many sure things in football so let’s wait and see how it develops before we criticise the club.
Hibs sign Portuguese winger while hearts sign crap like Jorge grant etc?
See how easy that is.
You can add Kio to that too. £350k for a player Robbie described would be taking them to next level!
GordonHFC
20-12-2022, 07:20 AM
You can have the best forwards in the world but if you have no quality midfielders who can provide them with a decent service they won't score a lot of goals.
Mainstandman
20-12-2022, 07:42 AM
You can have the best forwards in the world but if you have no quality midfielders who can provide them with a decent service they won't score a lot of goals.
look at Bale at the world cup, pretty anonymous up front on his own. unless we address the lack of quality in midfield then we will not get any better, also that better midfield will protect the defence as well.
Stuart93
20-12-2022, 10:49 AM
Decent list of players tweeted by Down The Slope podcast on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/downtheslope1/status/1605156838441369607?s=21
For anyone who’s interested. Club could do a lot worse than have a look at it!
Unseen work
20-12-2022, 11:05 AM
Decent list of players tweeted by Down The Slope podcast on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/downtheslope1/status/1605156838441369607?s=21
For anyone who’s interested. Club could do a lot worse than have a look at it!
Footballs a funny game isn’t it, everyone slates the recruitment team and the targets fans want us 3 St Mirren players, Livingston player, A partick thistle player and a Ayr player , plus a couple from lower leagues in England and then Ireland.
I’m not dismissing any of those players whatsoever by the way and wojld absolutely take some of them.
But if the board suggested some of them either now or the last 12 months I imagine a large portion would say “uninspiring”, low expectations etc etc
It just shows how hard a job they’ve got. When we were signing players like the ones mentioned a lot were saying we need to cast our net wider than what we were - we do that the last 12 months and struggled.
As always a mix of the two is needed but you’re never going to please everyone
Since452
20-12-2022, 11:15 AM
Footballs a funny game isn’t it, everyone slates the recruitment team and the targets fans want us 3 St Mirren players, Livingston player, A partick thistle player and a Ayr player , plus a couple from lower leagues in England and then Ireland.
I’m not dismissing any of those players whatsoever by the way and wojld absolutely take some of them.
But if the board suggested some of them either now or the last 12 months I imagine a large portion would say “uninspiring”, low expectations etc etc
It just shows how hard a job they’ve got. When we were signing players like the ones mentioned a lot were saying we need to cast our net wider than what we were - we do that the last 12 months and struggled.
As always a mix of the two is needed but you’re never going to please everyone
:agree: When we were signing players from St Mirren, St Johnstone, Hamilton etc people were complaining that they weren't "exotic" enough and we should cast our net wider.
madhatter
20-12-2022, 11:17 AM
We should definitely be looking at Dipo Akinyemi. We've taken far bigger risks in the summer on players that have, in their career, shown far less.
He is a handful but has good ball control. He doesn't get bullied, can hold the ball up and is quite mobile.
Exactly the type of player we are missing in my opinion. Doidge wasn't great but he gave us something different, we haven't really replaced that because Kukharevych isn't really that player. He doesn't hold the ball up very well. Doidge wasn't great at hold up either but had a knack of winning freekicks in some games.
bingo70
20-12-2022, 11:18 AM
:agree: When we were signing players from St Mirren, St Johnstone, Hamilton etc people were complaining that they weren't "exotic" enough and we should cast our net wider.
Too right.
Like someone else said, it’s all about getting the balance right. It’s not a black and white case of one being better than the other.
bingo70
20-12-2022, 11:19 AM
We should definitely be looking at Dipo Akinyemi. We've taken far bigger risks in the summer on players that have, in their career, shown far less.
He is a handful but has good ball control. He doesn't get bullied, can hold the ball up and is quite mobile.
Exactly the type of player we are missing in my opinion. Doidge wasn't great but he gave us something different, we haven't really replaced that because Kukharevych isn't really that player. He doesn't hold the ball up very well. Doidge wasn't great at hold up either but had a knack of winning freekicks in some games.
Is he not under contract for a while at Ayr? How much would they want for him?
His career pre-Ayr would worry me about offering anything decent for him.
madhatter
20-12-2022, 11:32 AM
Is he not under contract for a while at Ayr? How much would they want for him?
His career pre-Ayr would worry me about offering anything decent for him.
2024, so a bit of time. They'll probably want a bit for him but I would imagine we've spent more on players in the summer that have shown next to nothing. Jair Tavares showed pretty much nothing at a senior level and we spent money on him. Likewise, Melkerson.
They both will amount to more than we would have to spend on Akinyemi. Least said about McKirdy the better...
PHeffernan
20-12-2022, 11:38 AM
https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1604880928278560768?s=46&t=u9nY91nTterQijZYGGQz1A
Bojang to leave but Cabraja to stay.
Not in the article but I heard there was a couple of English clubs interested in Campbell.
A whole lot of nothing in that article.
bingo70
20-12-2022, 11:39 AM
2024, so a bit of time. They'll probably want a bit for him but I would imagine we've spent more on players in the summer that have shown next to nothing. Jair Tavares showed pretty much nothing at a senior level and we spent money on him. Likewise, Melkerson.
They both will amount to more than we would have to spend on Akinyemi. Least said about McKirdy the better...
If we buy Akinyemi does he get written off as quickly if he has a slow start too?
Hibernian Verse
20-12-2022, 11:47 AM
If we buy Akinyemi does he get written off as quickly if he has a slow start too?
Course he does, like every other player that didn't hit the ground running.
madhatter
20-12-2022, 12:26 PM
If we buy Akinyemi does he get written off as quickly if he has a slow start too?
Depends if we have half a dozen players all having slow starts at the same time.
Collective slow starts are usually a bad sign, 1-2 may recover and may yet come good. Most of these players are young though and most look quite timid so this collective bad spell has probably dented their confidence more than anything so recovery becomes even more difficult.
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