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Jones28
10-01-2023, 06:35 AM
A sell on for Porteous could be worth millions in the not too distant future, probably a lot more money than finishing in the top 6 would be worth.

It’s a tricky one.

Dmas
10-01-2023, 06:45 AM
He wants to go this window IMO his performances are the ‘this might be my last game’ type so I expect he’ll be away before the end of the month.

I see we have delferiere back have we cut that loan short or was it only a 6 month loan?

keep the faith
10-01-2023, 07:21 AM
Porto made a decision to look after his self and not the club. We are now seeing the result of that.
He is of course totally entitled to do that, but no amount of badge punching and winding up opposition fans changes that fact. For me, I still wish he signed a contract with a sensible release clause like others.

We won't get much of a fee if he leaves. Why would a club pay big for someone who will be free in June?

HH81
10-01-2023, 07:24 AM
Porto made a decision to look after his self and not the club. We are now seeing the result of that.
He is of course totally entitled to do that, but no amount of badge punching and winding up opposition fans changes that fact. For me, I still wish he signed a contract with a sensible release clause like others.

We won't get much of a fee if he leaves. Why would a club pay big for someone who will be free in June?

To stop him signing a pre contract elsewhere. I still think RP would be better rejecting all moves and getting the signing on fee as a bigger amount. There is a risk there though as could get injured but I'd still take it if I was him.

Ringothedog
10-01-2023, 07:25 AM
Porto made a decision to look after his self and not the club. We are now seeing the result of that.
He is of course totally entitled to do that, but no amount of badge punching and winding up opposition fans changes that fact. For me, I still wish he signed a contract with a sensible release clause like others.

We won't get much of a fee if he leaves. Why would a club pay big for someone who will be free in June?
The club had years to offer him an improved contract and never took the opportunity until last season. This situation is down to the club not the player

Unseen work
10-01-2023, 07:32 AM
The club had years to offer him an improved contract and never took the opportunity until last season. This situation is down to the club not the player

Is that true though?

We offered JDH a new contract after about 2 months, Doidge and Newell got new contracts and loads others.

I don’t believe for a second we never asked the question

CapitalGreen
10-01-2023, 07:46 AM
Porto made a decision to look after his self and not the club. We are now seeing the result of that.
He is of course totally entitled to do that, but no amount of badge punching and winding up opposition fans changes that fact. For me, I still wish he signed a contract with a sensible release clause like others.

We won't get much of a fee if he leaves. Why would a club pay big for someone who will be free in June?

When he signed his last contract he was told he was looking after the club then they rejected bids for him when he wanted to move South. If you were him, why would you re-sign knowing the same could happen again?

Sioux
10-01-2023, 08:11 AM
When he signed his last contract he was told he was looking after the club then they rejected bids for him when he wanted to move South. If you were him, why would you re-sign knowing the same could happen again?

The club is perfectly entitled to reject bids that come nowhere near valuation. Porto would have known that at the time. We keep getting criticised for letting players go on the cheap, and as soon as we don't, people lose their mind.

The talk on here at the time was that Porto was worth 3 -4 million. No offer remotely in that area was ever received. Are you saying that in hindsight we should have accepted under £1m just to keep Porto happy? What benefit to the club would that be exactly?

Fuzzywuzzy
10-01-2023, 08:20 AM
Was it Ryan Fraser that did the same to Aberdeen and Bournemouth? Running out the contract so club got nothing. Short career got to make the money while you can I guess

Mcbizz1998
10-01-2023, 08:23 AM
When he signed his last contract he was told he was looking after the club then they rejected bids for him when he wanted to move South. If you were him, why would you re-sign knowing the same could happen again?

There wouldn’t have been a release clause in his previous contract though. A new one would have and he could have negotiated the terms.

CapitalGreen
10-01-2023, 08:29 AM
The club is perfectly entitled to reject bids that come nowhere near valuation. Porto would have known that at the time. We keep getting criticised for letting players go on the cheap, and as soon as we don't, people lose their mind.

The talk on here at the time was that Porto was worth 3 -4 million. No offer remotely in that area was ever received. Are you saying that in hindsight we should have accepted under £1m just to keep Porto happy? What benefit to the club would that be exactly?

No, I’m saying if the club valued him that highly they should have been pro-active in putting a deal in front of him that reflected that. We were apparently valuing him at £3-4m you say but we still had him on the same contract he had after making only 9 league starts. The reality is, the club didn’t acknowledge that he was being underpaid based on his role in the team until after teams had begun making their interest known. He signed his current contract in 2018 and bids were received in 2021, during that time we should have been increasing his salary with extensions to reflect his growing importance in the team.

Paulie Walnuts
10-01-2023, 08:43 AM
Not sure if the Bojang thread has been deleted as I can’t find it but seeing as it’s about an outgoing player I’ll post this here from LJ:

“I like Momo a lot, he is a good player and he has a lot of potential. No-one shouted at him. We wanted him to do well and we tried to help him as much as possible.”

“Obviously we do exit interviews with players anyway and I think he has got a little bit caught up in stuff he shouldn’t, but he’s a good lad and he’s a good player and I wish him all the best.”

Interesting.

Sioux
10-01-2023, 08:45 AM
No, I’m saying if the club valued him that highly they should have been pro-active in putting a deal in front of him that reflected that. We were apparently valuing him at £3-4m you say but we still had him on the same contract he had after making only 9 league starts. The reality is, the club didn’t acknowledge that he was being underpaid based on his role in the team until after teams had begun making their interest known. He signed his current contract in 2018 and bids were received in 2021, during that time we should have been increasing his salary with extensions to reflect his growing importance in the team.

That's all very well, but what we don't know is whether a new contract was discussed prior to 2021, and how any discussion regarding a new contract progressed. I suppose there are two ends of the spectrum;

(a) Hibs point blank refused to discuss a better contract on the basis that they didn't have to, or (b) Porto point blank refused to entertain any new deal.

I somehow don't think either of those options could be events that happened over a period of
3 years, so that leaves a big grey area in between. What happened there, we'll probably never know.

gegs70
10-01-2023, 08:59 AM
How long has Nisbet got on contract, I am sure he was offered an improved contract but didn't sign it?

HIBS NUTS
10-01-2023, 09:01 AM
How long has Nisbet got on contract, I am sure he was offered an improved contract but didn't sign it?

Till summer 2024

Greencore
10-01-2023, 09:04 AM
We should look to offload Nisbet in this window to avoid what happened with RP

No way will he sign a new deal when he handed in a transfer request when we rejected a bid from Birmingham.

J-C
10-01-2023, 09:05 AM
We should look to offload Nisbet in this window to avoid what happened with RP

No way will he sign a new deal when he took the huff we rejected a bid from Birmingham.

Yea great idea, lets get shot of the only guy scoring goals. 🤣🤣🤣

MWHIBBIES
10-01-2023, 09:05 AM
We should look to offload Nisbet in this window to avoid what happened with RP

No way will he sign a new deal when he took the huff we rejected a bid from Birmingham.

Losing him and Ryan would likely mean relegation. Not a good idea.

Since452
10-01-2023, 09:10 AM
We should look to offload Nisbet in this window to avoid what happened with RP

No way will he sign a new deal when he handed in a transfer request when we rejected a bid from Birmingham.

If we looked to offload him could you imagine the backlash? LJ would probably walk and i wouldn't blame him. It's up to the club to offer him a tempting enough contract to want to stay. Offloading him is the last thing we should be doing.

bigwheel
10-01-2023, 09:11 AM
We should look to offload Nisbet in this window to avoid what happened with RP

No way will he sign a new deal when he handed in a transfer request when we rejected a bid from Birmingham.

That would be mad …we need to try to finish as high up the league as possible . He’s still got 18 months of his contract to go. No need to seek him now

flash
10-01-2023, 09:13 AM
We should look to offload Nisbet in this window to avoid what happened with RP

No way will he sign a new deal when he handed in a transfer request when we rejected a bid from Birmingham.

Surely if he won't sign a new deal he will move on in the summer when we have a much better chance of replacing him properly.

Scotty Leither
10-01-2023, 09:14 AM
We should keep Porteous until after the cup tie. That should be a red line, because if we offload him before that game it sends out all the wrong signals from the club.

hibsforeurope
10-01-2023, 09:14 AM
If we looked to offload him could you imagine the backlash? LJ would probably walk and i wouldn't blame him. It's up to the club to offer him a tempting enough contract to want to stay. Offloading him is the last thing we should be doing.

I don't think/hope we don't sell him now but i think we will cash in in the summer if no deal has been signed.

It also seems that the decision to reject new deals is not purely down to money, we need to create an environment that players what to be part of and helps them develop.

flash
10-01-2023, 09:23 AM
We should keep Porteous until after the cup tie. That should be a red line, because if we offload him before that game it sends out all the wrong signals from the club.

I agree but I suppose the problem there might be if he really wants to go somewhere in January the whole thing could get a bit messy.

bigwheel
10-01-2023, 09:25 AM
I agree but I suppose the problem there might be if he really wants to go somewhere in January the whole thing could get a bit messy.

There’s no reason that we can’t agree a deal and also agree it won’t happen until after our big game this month . Happens all the time in football. Might not be fully in our control, but unless there’s urgency from the other parties , I’m sure that’s exactly what will be being discussed behind the scenes .

Jones28
10-01-2023, 09:30 AM
We should look to offload Nisbet in this window to avoid what happened with RP

No way will he sign a new deal when he handed in a transfer request when we rejected a bid from Birmingham.

That would be head-bangingly daft.

Offer him a new deal and if he continues his form we look to keep him next season. If bids come in the summer then we are in a position of strength.

CraigHibee
10-01-2023, 09:33 AM
We should look to offload Nisbet in this window to avoid what happened with RP

No way will he sign a new deal when he handed in a transfer request when we rejected a bid from Birmingham.

I'd be doing all we could to keep him imo

truehibernian
10-01-2023, 09:53 AM
We should look to offload Nisbet in this window to avoid what happened with RP

No way will he sign a new deal when he handed in a transfer request when we rejected a bid from Birmingham.

Not in a million years should we be doing that. We aren’t in a secure enough position in the league yet for a start, and having a goal scorer rattling them in regularly takes us up the table into contention. It’s why Ross County, Kilmarnock and Dundee Utd are below us because they don’t score many.

Third is still achievable, certainly fourth - and if we get past Hearts who knows what a cup run can bring.

Can you imagine his valuation, even with a year to go in summer, if he gets to 15-20 goals in half a season. Loads will want him. He’s come back leaner, quicker and hungrier.

AlbertK86
10-01-2023, 09:55 AM
You can’t be bothered with the wait for the right player chat, I’d much rather that than add to the list of mistakes or mediocre players mate. I am as frustrated and inpatient as the next person but it has to be right. I don’t actually think we are far away but a couple of injuries like we have seen and we are in trouble. In this window realistically I’d probably settle for a right good CH and CM both that are of the quality to come in and start from the off. I know we need more but as a minimum I’d take that even if Porto leaves.

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Donegal Hibby
10-01-2023, 10:41 AM
Reports that Wigan want Mitchell.
https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-wigan-athletic-plot-move-to-sign-hibernian-star-demetri-mitchell/

Jones28
10-01-2023, 10:45 AM
Reports that Wigan want Mitchell.
https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-wigan-athletic-plot-move-to-sign-hibernian-star-demetri-mitchell/

Good move for all parties.

Hibee Mac
10-01-2023, 10:46 AM
Reports that Wigan want Mitchell.
https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-wigan-athletic-plot-move-to-sign-hibernian-star-demetri-mitchell/Bite their hand off

Trinity Hibee
10-01-2023, 10:57 AM
Reports that Wigan want Mitchell.
https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-wigan-athletic-plot-move-to-sign-hibernian-star-demetri-mitchell/

Best news I’ve heard all week.

Paulie Walnuts
10-01-2023, 10:59 AM
What an agent he has.

Stuart93
10-01-2023, 10:59 AM
If Mitchell is off it surely won’t be hard to replace him with better

Been a complete waste of a wage

Paulie Walnuts
10-01-2023, 11:01 AM
If Mitchell is off it surely won’t be hard to replace him with better

Been a complete waste of a wage

Just bring McIntyre into the squad and we’re already better.

NORTHERNHIBBY
10-01-2023, 11:02 AM
We should look to offload Nisbet in this window to avoid what happened with RP

No way will he sign a new deal when he handed in a transfer request when we rejected a bid from Birmingham.


Off load is surely not the word? If there is someone prepared to throw around silly money then that is a different question, but he shouldn't be allowed to leave until we have the replacement tied up.

04Sauzee
10-01-2023, 11:05 AM
Celtic willing to listen to offers for Welsh according to reports, with interest from Europe and the MLS

Paulie Walnuts
10-01-2023, 11:06 AM
Celtic willing to listen to offers for Welsh according to reports, with interest from Europe and the MLS

This is the kind of move we should be making if we sell Porteous.

southern hibby
10-01-2023, 11:07 AM
Swap Mitchell for Jason Kerr.

GGTTH

Mcbizz1998
10-01-2023, 11:08 AM
We should look to offload Nisbet in this window to avoid what happened with RP

No way will he sign a new deal when he handed in a transfer request when we rejected a bid from Birmingham.

I’m just going to presume this is a joke. The alternative would be too worrying.

04Sauzee
10-01-2023, 11:09 AM
This is the kind of move we should be making if we sell Porteous.

I reckon Celtic will get more for Welsh than we will for Porteous and wouldn't even surprise me if Welsh is getting better paid. In saying that , I agree that's the kind of players we should be after

04Sauzee
10-01-2023, 11:10 AM
Swap Mitchell for Jason Kerr.

GGTTH

I'm sure I read Kerr is out for the rest of the season?

Iain G
10-01-2023, 11:11 AM
I'm sure I read Kerr is out for the rest of the season?

Sounds like a good Hibs signing then, am sure our healthcare partners would never notice any injury in our medical :greengrin

Trinity Hibee
10-01-2023, 11:12 AM
Swap Mitchell for Jason Kerr.

GGTTH

I know he’s injured just now but what an outcome that would be

Greencore
10-01-2023, 11:13 AM
Swap Mitchell for Jason Kerr.

GGTTH

If only.

southern hibby
10-01-2023, 11:14 AM
I'm sure I read Kerr is out for the rest of the season?


That’s shot that idea down then.

GGTTH

I'm Spartacus
10-01-2023, 11:17 AM
We should look to offload Nisbet in this window to avoid what happened with RP

No way will he sign a new deal when he handed in a transfer request when we rejected a bid from Birmingham.

He's under contract until 9th July 2024, so in 12 months time he can obviously sign a pre-contract elsewhere.

He either signs a new deal or goes in the next window. That European spot is key to us being able to offer him the money and stage to stay with us.

bigwheel
10-01-2023, 11:18 AM
This is the kind of move we should be making if we sell Porteous.

Unfortunately, Welsh will go for big money and to a salary we wouldn’t be able to compete with

Scotty Leither
10-01-2023, 11:18 AM
Reports that Wigan want Mitchell.
https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-wigan-athletic-plot-move-to-sign-hibernian-star-demetri-mitchell/

I’ll drive him down there if he wants.

Willis1875
10-01-2023, 11:18 AM
I’ll drive him down there if he wants.

Bojang is driving him down

Iain G
10-01-2023, 11:19 AM
Bojang is driving him down

Must be in a hire car though :wink:

Since452
10-01-2023, 11:21 AM
Must be in a hire car though :wink:

The hire car only has one seat and is like a prison cell

blackpoolhibs
10-01-2023, 11:27 AM
Bojang is driving him down

Hope he has a fire extinguisher with him.

Trinity Hibee
10-01-2023, 11:28 AM
Hope he has a fire extinguisher with him.

Will need the heating on full blast too if he’s just in a vest

southern hibby
10-01-2023, 11:29 AM
Right tell Wigan they can have Mitchell and we’ll take Kerr on loan for a season when he’s back to full fitness with the option to buy at the end of the season loan, if and stipulate the IF he manages to last the season loan without a reoccurrence of his injury.

GGTTH

EGL2000
10-01-2023, 11:33 AM
Celtic willing to listen to offers for Welsh according to reports, with interest from Europe and the MLS

Type of player we should be all over. Experience in our league and still lots of room to develop. Only way I would really see it happening is if we receive a fee from a sale/sell on then reinvest.

Bostonhibby
10-01-2023, 11:39 AM
Swap Mitchell for Jason Kerr.

GGTTHJason voorhees? At least he's guaranteed to turn up.

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southern hibby
10-01-2023, 11:42 AM
Jason voorhees? At least he's guaranteed to turn up.

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id go for that only if we sign him on Friday 13th.

GGTTH

J-C
10-01-2023, 11:47 AM
Celtic willing to listen to offers for Welsh according to reports, with interest from Europe and the MLS

Outwith our budget I'd have thought, if they're listening to offers that sounds like a transfer, one we probably couldn't match.

Bostonhibby
10-01-2023, 11:48 AM
id go for that only if we sign him on Friday 13th.

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Ronniekirk
10-01-2023, 11:48 AM
How long has Nisbet got on contract, I am sure he was offered an improved contract but didn't sign it?
Correct so we would probably have to make him our highest paid player and agree what fee in future would allow him to leave
Am sure Hibs priced him out a move before with thier valuation ,
also he is now 25 so I would imagine he will want his next contract to be the best he can get ,and he may well want total control of Where he goes
Given Doidge s firm when he came back from injury we couldn’t of predicted Nesbit would start scoring from the off the way he has as he wasn’t scoring that many prior to his injury
The timing couldn’t be any worse fir us with the window currently open But I can defo see a few clubs making a bid if he keeps his current scoring form going

Iain G
10-01-2023, 11:49 AM
Will need the heating on full blast too if he’s just in a vest

He isn't happy that there are no blinds in the windows

davhibby
10-01-2023, 11:57 AM
This is the kind of move we should be making if we sell Porteous.

I doubt we can afford him.

Donegal Hibby
10-01-2023, 12:13 PM
Good move for all parties.
Hopefully something in it , thought he was a strange signing at the time by Maloney.

HendoDelivered
10-01-2023, 12:42 PM
Celtic willing to listen to offers for Welsh according to reports, with interest from Europe and the MLS

we should be alll over this if affordable

Stuart93
10-01-2023, 12:45 PM
Right tell Wigan they can have Mitchell and we’ll take Kerr on loan for a season when he’s back to full fitness with the option to buy at the end of the season loan, if and stipulate the IF he manages to last the season loan without a reoccurrence of his injury.

GGTTH

Wait, you replied to someone’s post further up the thread telling you Kerr was out for the rest of the season.

Why would we want a player on loan who’s currently out with an ACL injury?

Donegal Hibby
10-01-2023, 12:52 PM
The hire car only has one seat and is like a prison cell
You know you have just described the " peel p50 " btw ?

EGL2000
10-01-2023, 01:06 PM
Outwith our budget I'd have thought, if they're listening to offers that sounds like a transfer, one we probably couldn't match.

As much as I agree, he is proven quality so I think he is more than worth spending say 500k on. There's very little risk in that signing in terms of loosing value. However I feel like they will probably be looking for 1mil plus, which is out of our range. Could, say 500k with a large sell on fee be attractive?

Dmas
10-01-2023, 01:10 PM
Hopefully something in it , thought he was a strange signing at the time by Maloney.

Wigan just anoounced a midfielder on loan from arsenal, Miguel Azeez hopefully they’ve room for both

Paulie Walnuts
10-01-2023, 01:28 PM
Wait, you replied to someone’s post further up the thread telling you Kerr was out for the rest of the season.

Why would we want a player on loan who’s currently out with an ACL injury?

We’re to take him on loan once he’s fit the poster said.

It’s quite the complex transfer they’re proposing. And although Wigan are clearly stupid enough to take Mitchell, I’d think they won’t be stupid enough to give us Kerr as well :greengrin

04Sauzee
10-01-2023, 01:45 PM
Wigan just anoounced a midfielder on loan from arsenal, Miguel Azeez hopefully they’ve room for both

Looks like a CM and they signed Caulker the other day , think they are struggling in the league so need to get better in.

Donegal Hibby
10-01-2023, 01:51 PM
Wigan just anoounced a midfielder on loan from arsenal, Miguel Azeez hopefully they’ve room for both
They have also signed Steven Caulker and are wanting Joe Gelhardt, Christ Tiehi and according to another article Wigan manager wants to bolster his left back position too ( Mitchell hopefully 🤞) . Does anyone know how much we paid for him ?

Hibees1973
10-01-2023, 02:01 PM
They have also signed Steven Caulker and are wanting Joe Gelhardt, Christ Tiehi and according to another article Wigan manager wants to bolster his left back position too ( Mitchell hopefully 🤞) . Does anyone know how much we paid for him ?

Think Ron's son handed over a couple of crates of wine and he was ours.

Stuart93
10-01-2023, 02:02 PM
We’re to take him on loan once he’s fit the poster said.

It’s quite the complex transfer they’re proposing. And although Wigan are clearly stupid enough to take Mitchell, I’d think they won’t be stupid enough to give us Kerr as well :greengrin

Aye so once you’s get Kerr fit and up n running again we’ll take him off yous

Trinity Hibee
10-01-2023, 02:16 PM
Wait, you replied to someone’s post further up the thread telling you Kerr was out for the rest of the season.

Why would we want a player on loan who’s currently out with an ACL injury?

Even with the ACL I’d take him now. Of course Hibs won’t as he won’t pass fitness tests but it might have been a way to get him when we otherwise wouldn’t be able to

GGTTH07
10-01-2023, 02:19 PM
We actually been linked to anyone?

Stuart93
10-01-2023, 02:22 PM
Even with the ACL I’d take him now. Of course Hibs won’t as he won’t pass fitness tests but it might have been a way to get him when we otherwise wouldn’t be able to

If Porteous goes we need a CB in now. What we don’t need to be doing is signing another injured player

Wigan aren’t just going to give him away because he’s got an ACL injury either

wookie70
10-01-2023, 02:28 PM
Type of player we should be all over. Experience in our league and still lots of room to develop. Only way I would really see it happening is if we receive a fee from a sale/sell on then reinvest.

I've not seen much of Welsh play enough to make a real judgement but I often think that seeing a player playing for Celtc who are miles ahead of the other teams, play a totally different style and who have great players in most positions may give a false impression anyway. He is not much younger than Porteous and has had 44 league appearances. Porteous has been playing in the leagues for 6 years now and no team outwith the uglies in our league would be buying potential with Ryan. Is Welsh that good when he is defending half the game in a chaotic situation or does he look good in a team with 80% possession and options everywhere to play a pass. I'd much rather try and get a centre half off one of the teams in the mix with us in our league. That weakens them and strengthens us and we can probably have an excellent idea of knowing what we are buying. Even then there is no guarantees but it minimises risk

Donegal Hibby
10-01-2023, 02:39 PM
Think Ron's son handed over a couple of crates of wine and he was ours.
On transfer market his market value is down as 300k which got me wondering what we payed for him .

MWHIBBIES
10-01-2023, 02:49 PM
Even with the ACL I’d take him now. Of course Hibs won’t as he won’t pass fitness tests but it might have been a way to get him when we otherwise wouldn’t be able to

Fitness tests are generally to discover unknown injury. An injury that is well known and he's recovering from wouldn't be an issue. Injured players move clubs all the time. Still, he's not coming here regardless.

Hibernian Verse
10-01-2023, 02:51 PM
Think Ron's son handed over a couple of crates of wine and he was ours.

Have you considered putting on a show during the Fringe?

"Ron's Son - A biography by Hibees1973"

brog
10-01-2023, 02:52 PM
I've not seen much of Welsh play enough to make a real judgement but I often think that seeing a player playing for Celtc who are miles ahead of the other teams, play a totally different style and who have great players in most positions may give a false impression anyway. He is not much younger than Porteous and has had 44 league appearances. Porteous has been playing in the leagues for 6 years now and no team outwith the uglies in our league would be buying potential with Ryan. Is Welsh that good when he is defending half the game in a chaotic situation or does he look good in a team with 80% possession and options everywhere to play a pass. I'd much rather try and get a centre half off one of the teams in the mix with us in our league. That weakens them and strengthens us and we can probably have an excellent idea of knowing what we are buying. Even then there is no guarantees but it minimises risk

I agree entirely. If Celtc think Welsh is the next great hope then why are they always signing CB's and letting this guy go? I suspect we could get Fitzwater from Livi for 100k max or less with a sell on fee. I'd much rather we go for him.

EGL2000
10-01-2023, 02:57 PM
I agree entirely. If Celtc think Welsh is the next great hope then why are they always signing CB's and letting this guy go? I suspect we could get Fitzwater from Livi for 100k max or less with a sell on fee. I'd much rather we go for him.

Sadly Celtic are that far ahead of us that players not even in their plans could be solid first team starters for us. Think he's personally a really good player and him not being loaned out shows they are happy to have him filling in when needed.

Just because Celtic are willing to let players go does not mean they lack quality. They are letting last season's top scorer who was Netherlands top scorer the season before go!

MelbourneHibees
10-01-2023, 03:05 PM
Hearts signed some Japanese boy.

Since452
10-01-2023, 03:07 PM
Hearts signed some Japanese boy.

We'll be playing a different 11 in the cup from the derby last week at this rate.

Hibees1973
10-01-2023, 03:12 PM
Hearts signed some Japanese boy.

Oh I feel a song coming on......

wookie70
10-01-2023, 03:23 PM
Sadly Celtic are that far ahead of us that players not even in their plans could be solid first team starters for us. Think he's personally a really good player and him not being loaned out shows they are happy to have him filling in when needed.

Just because Celtic are willing to let players go does not mean they lack quality. They are letting last season's top scorer who was Netherlands top scorer the season before go!

You may well be right that he ends up a good player or already is. I think my point was that we can't be sure, or perhaps even confident, of that in a set up like ours. I'd far rather look at the teams around us and see if there is a deal to be made for a player with experience and plenty of games at this level. Even that doesn't guarantee success but it proves they can do a job. I want as little speculation in terms of teh ability to play in this league within a top 6 starting 11 as possible in this transfer window. We have plenty of projects, some of which may have been a great buy but you can't drive a project car you need a reliable motor that gets you from A to B. At the moment that A is 7th place and at the minimum we should have our sights set on 4th

Col2
10-01-2023, 03:26 PM
Hearts signed some Japanese boy.

Given the fuss they are making I expected another World Cup superstar…

2 career goals for his club.

Callum_62
10-01-2023, 03:27 PM
Given the fuss they are making I expected another World Cup superstar…

2 career goals for his club.1 assist tho in 21 games [emoji106]

Can't belive we didn't sign them

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Trinity Hibee
10-01-2023, 03:27 PM
We'll be playing a different 11 in the cup from the derby last week at this rate.

And we are sat here with our fingers up our arse!

Hamish
10-01-2023, 03:30 PM
Tayo Edun, Blackburn left back, mentioned on Twitter that we are interested. Quite a few English clubs after him as well.

SMAXXA
10-01-2023, 03:31 PM
And we are sat here with our fingers up our arse!

are we aye

Trinity Hibee
10-01-2023, 03:32 PM
are we aye

Sorry was a link to a previous post from a couple of days ago. Just a wee joke

Iain G
10-01-2023, 03:32 PM
And we are sat here with our fingers up our arse!

If that's what you like, good for you! Just hope they don't go numb and fall off 😁

Stuart93
10-01-2023, 03:37 PM
And we are sat here with our fingers up our arse!

oi that’s my catchphrase for this window, get your own

HoboHarry
10-01-2023, 03:44 PM
Oh I feel a song coming on......
They'll wake up one morning and he'll be gone.

PatHead
10-01-2023, 03:45 PM
Are there any young players getting freed by Hearts like Doing or Cummings that we could take, improve and sell on?

bingo70
10-01-2023, 03:48 PM
Tayo Edun, Blackburn left back, mentioned on Twitter that we are interested. Quite a few English clubs after him as well.

https://twitter.com/rossaftbl/status/1612836836489166849?s=46&t=zixIjAo6EFBGi6xR4_JNhA

That’s the only link on Twitter I can see, boys only got about 4 followers so bound to be pish. More reputable twitter accounts saying he’s going to Charlton.

Callum_62
10-01-2023, 03:52 PM
Tayo Edun, Blackburn left back, mentioned on Twitter that we are interested. Quite a few English clubs after him as well.Adetayo Oluwatosin Olusegun Adio Aduramigba Iretioluwa Edun

£3 a letter

Gordonnnnnn!

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04Sauzee
10-01-2023, 03:56 PM
Tayo Edun, Blackburn left back, mentioned on Twitter that we are interested. Quite a few English clubs after him as well.

From the same people that reported Mitchell to Wigan

🚨 EXCLUSIVE! 🚨

- Charlton lead the race for Tayo Edun ahead of Sheffield Wednesday, Lincoln and MK Dons. 🏁

- Dean Holden sees the 24-year-old as a key addition to his plans. 🔑

number9dream
10-01-2023, 03:56 PM
I reckon Celtic will get more for Welsh than we will for Porteous and wouldn't even surprise me if Welsh is getting better paid. In saying that , I agree that's the kind of players we should be after

Welsh signed a four year deal in April 2021, so almost certainly on bigger wages than anyone at Easter Road.
Can’t see him wanting to stay in Scotland if he moves on, unless there are personal reasons to remain close to family.

Think we’ll need to shift a few more before any new faces come in. Plus the manager isn’t exactly out of the woods in terms of job security…

HoboHarry
10-01-2023, 04:01 PM
Welsh signed a four year deal in April 2021, so almost certainly on bigger wages than anyone at Easter Road.
Can’t see him wanting to stay in Scotland if he moves on, unless there are personal reasons to remain close to family.

Think we’ll need to shift a few more before any new faces come in. Plus the manager isn’t exactly out of the woods in terms of job security…
Said who? Or is this another .net FACT?

Paulie Walnuts
10-01-2023, 04:01 PM
Starting to become a bit concerning the lack of even a rumour.

Getting rid of players is all well and good, but it’s not going to improve our starting 11 and that’s the most important thing this window.

Hamish
10-01-2023, 04:03 PM
From the same people that reported Mitchell to Wigan

🚨 EXCLUSIVE! 🚨

- Charlton lead the race for Tayo Edun ahead of Sheffield Wednesday, Lincoln and MK Dons. 🏁

- Dean Holden sees the 24-year-old as a key addition to his plans. 🔑

Hibs and Charlton are both interested in Blackburn left back Tayo Edun. #Hibernian #Hibs #CharltonAthletic #CAFC #Addicks #BlackburnRovers #BRFC

Some lad on Twitter, 'son of a football agent' no idea how decent his info is

EGL2000
10-01-2023, 04:05 PM
Update saying Ryan likely to leave this window.

Callum_62
10-01-2023, 04:06 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/an-update-from-ben-kensell

Sounds like he's Describing John Park

What I’d expect from this individual is someone that comes with Scottish experience, that has football knowledge, contacts in the game and someone that’ll come in to make us better. We want someone that’ll put processes in place that ensure we correct some of the things we got wrong and can move us forward.

On signings

What happens now?

As the Manager has stated publicly, we have to trim our squad, so we’re focused on outs. If there’s someone we can bring in that is better than what we have, and brings real quality to the squad, then we will do that, but it has to be quality over quantity. In the immediate short-term I will continue to negotiate the terms of the ins and outs, and I’m sure it’ll be a busy window from that perspective.



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Trinity Hibee
10-01-2023, 04:08 PM
oi that’s my catchphrase for this window, get your own

😂

Ronniekirk
10-01-2023, 04:08 PM
Starting to become a bit concerning the lack of even a rumour.

Getting rid of players is all well and good, but it’s not going to improve our starting 11 and that’s the most important thing this window.
To date we haven’t actually moved on any player that will have been on high wages though and it’s only Bradley Bojang and one other I think k that have been released but could have missed someone else

MelbourneHibees
10-01-2023, 04:11 PM
That update reinforcing the idea that we aren't looking at anyone this window. Wow.

green day
10-01-2023, 04:14 PM
That update reinforcing the idea that we aren't looking at anyone this window. Wow.

No it doesnt

JammyDoidger
10-01-2023, 04:15 PM
If we lose Porto and don't replace him with a decent centre half heads should roll. Worrying times, imagine having Hanlon, Rocky and Fish for the rest of the season..doesn't bare thinking about. We need someone in that's better than all 3 of them.

B.H.F.C
10-01-2023, 04:19 PM
If we lose Porto and don't replace him with a decent centre half heads should roll. Worrying times, imagine having Hanlon, Rocky and Fish for the rest of the season..doesn't bare thinking about. We need someone in that's better than all 3 of them.

I don’t think Porteous will go anywhere until after the derby and/or a new centre half has been secured. There’s no way we don’t replace him.

Callum_62
10-01-2023, 04:19 PM
That update reinforcing the idea that we aren't looking at anyone this window. Wow.Does it? I just listened to Ben talking about him stil negotiating ins and outs and get expects as busy transfer window on that front



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One Day Soon
10-01-2023, 04:21 PM
No it doesnt

He states we are focusing on the 'outs'. I take from that the 'ins' are regarded as good to have rather than essential, otherwise they would not be contingent on getting people out first.

Silversand
10-01-2023, 04:22 PM
That update reinforcing the idea that we aren't looking at anyone this window. Wow."In the immediate short-term I will continue to negotiate the terms of the ins and outs, and I’m sure it’ll be a busy window from that perspective"

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green day
10-01-2023, 04:23 PM
He states we are focusing on the 'outs'. I take from that the 'ins' are regarded as good to have rather than essential, otherwise they would not be contingent on getting people out first.

Have you read the update?

SteveHFC
10-01-2023, 04:24 PM
If we lose Porto and don't replace him with a decent centre half heads should roll. Worrying times, imagine having Hanlon, Rocky and Fish for the rest of the season..doesn't bare thinking about. We need someone in that's better than all 3 of them.

A centre-back signing is a must for me.

One Day Soon
10-01-2023, 04:31 PM
Have you read the update?

I watched and listened to him preface all his other comments about this window by saying that we need to focus on the 'outs'.

WhileTheChief..
10-01-2023, 04:40 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/an-update-from-ben-kensell

Sounds like he's Describing John Park

What I’d expect from this individual is someone that comes with Scottish experience, that has football knowledge, contacts in the game and someone that’ll come in to make us better. We want someone that’ll put processes in place that ensure we correct some of the things we got wrong and can move us forward.

On signings

What happens now?

As the Manager has stated publicly, we have to trim our squad, so we’re focused on outs. If there’s someone we can bring in that is better than what we have, and brings real quality to the squad, then we will do that, but it has to be quality over quantity. In the immediate short-term I will continue to negotiate the terms of the ins and outs, and I’m sure it’ll be a busy window from that perspective.


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Better late than never I suppose. Two years it's taken him to realise what everyone else knows!

Getting players out doesn't improve us one bit though and still no talk about a central midfielder. Grim.

WhileTheChief..
10-01-2023, 04:42 PM
Have you read the update?

You can watch him saying it here...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5NSrEmU61E

xqnq1875
10-01-2023, 06:45 PM
If we can manage to get John Park in as Dof it will be brilliant business, will see more sensible signings with him in charge and less inexperienced players being brought in, has the eye for a good players as well i.e Virgil Van Dijk


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GreenPJ
10-01-2023, 09:10 PM
Better late than never I suppose. Two years it's taken him to realise what everyone else knows!

Getting players out doesn't improve us one bit though and still no talk about a central midfielder. Grim.

I would want a couple in but don't think you can say getting rid of players who aren't playing/causing conflict in the club is not a good thing.

LunasBoots
10-01-2023, 09:11 PM
I watched and listened to him preface all his other comments about this window by saying that we need to focus on the 'outs'.

Another right off season by the looks of it.

Ronniekirk
10-01-2023, 09:12 PM
If we can manage to get John Park in as Dof it will be brilliant business, will see more sensible signings with him in charge and less inexperienced players being brought in, has the eye for a good players as well i.e Virgil Van Dijk


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i don’t know one Rangers fan that has heard Rangers are shaking up Thier system and Park subsequently being let go
So assume this would beva very costly appointment if he is headhunted and wants to come as Rangers will want compensation
But it certainly needs to be someone of his calibre and knowledge and experience Think he is 64 now

Stokesy's on fire
10-01-2023, 09:27 PM
i don’t know one Rangers fan that has heard Rangers are shaking up Thier system and Park subsequently being let go
So assume this would beva very costly appointment if he is headhunted and wants to come as Rangers will want compensation
But it certainly needs to be someone of his calibre and knowledge and experience Think he is 64 now

The position he is in with sevco isn't that big if we want him and he wants to come it will be free to obtain him

Tinnitus
10-01-2023, 10:54 PM
Although the guy Parks guy that runs the buses and funds Sevco would be an upgrade on Ian Gordon, I'm not sure he's the best candidate for the job.

Donegal Hibby
10-01-2023, 11:10 PM
From the same people that reported Mitchell to Wigan

🚨 EXCLUSIVE! 🚨

- Charlton lead the race for Tayo Edun ahead of Sheffield Wednesday, Lincoln and MK Dons. 🏁

- Dean Holden sees the 24-year-old as a key addition to his plans. 🔑
I posted about Mitchell going to Wigan earlier , now I'm beginning to have doubts about the rumours basically because if we needed a fullback I'd have thought a right sided one would have been the priority with both miller and Cadden injured rather than a left back .

JimBHibees
11-01-2023, 06:09 AM
That update reinforcing the idea that we aren't looking at anyone this window. Wow.

Didn't say that at all.

KeithTheHibby
11-01-2023, 06:15 AM
Hopefully Porto around for the cup game against Hearts. We most definitely need him.

Gorgiehibee
11-01-2023, 09:25 AM
Anyone else heard were after Eyoma at Lincoln City? Plays as a Central defender of Right Back.

JohnM1875
11-01-2023, 09:38 AM
Anyone else heard were after Eyoma at Lincoln City? Plays as a Central defender of Right Back.

Could this finally be a rumour?! Played one FA cup game for Spurs a few years ago and has plenty games for Lincoln in league one. Versatile and just about to turn 23

nonshinyfinish
11-01-2023, 09:39 AM
Could this finally be a rumour?! Played one FA cup game for Spurs a few years ago and has plenty games for Lincoln in league one. Versatile and just about to turn 23

From Wiki: "Eyoma played youth football at Clissold Rangers"

No thanks.

Hibernian Verse
11-01-2023, 09:41 AM
From Wiki: "Eyoma played youth football at Clissold Rangers"

No thanks.

not another ***

SHODAN
11-01-2023, 09:42 AM
Eyoma certainly fits the profile of what we need.

one day maybe...
11-01-2023, 09:51 AM
Watched this guy the other night playing for Oxford, Djavan Anderson, aged 27. Very quick right back, did a good job marking Martinelli and looked a threat going forward. Valued at around 80K, once on the books at Lazio I think. Wouldn’t be too upset if Hibs were linked with him.

Up-the-slope
11-01-2023, 10:14 AM
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/ryan-porteous-hibs-transfer-quirk-25931947

another 'scoop' that looks lifted straight from here

1620
11-01-2023, 10:31 AM
C
Watched this guy the other night playing for Oxford, Djavan Anderson, aged 27. Very quick right back, did a good job marking Martinelli and looked a threat going forward. Valued at around 80K, once on the books at Lazio I think. Wouldn’t be too upset if Hibs were linked with him.

I also watched that game. In addition to Anderson playing well against Martinelli, Oxford’s left back was the guy Brown (with a ponytail) that used to play for Livi and he hardly gave Saka a kick of the ball and I remember thinking I wouldn’t mind seeing both of them at Hibs.

04Sauzee
11-01-2023, 10:39 AM
From Wiki: "Eyoma played youth football at Clissold Rangers"

No thanks.

Signed for Spurs in 2015 which is after he played for Clissold Rangers, Clissold Rangers look like grass roots junior teams , don't see that as being an issue.

Fuzzywuzzy
11-01-2023, 10:49 AM
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/ryan-porteous-hibs-transfer-quirk-25931947

another 'scoop' that looks lifted straight from here

That site seems to be very "establishment" club affiliated

Since452
11-01-2023, 10:52 AM
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/ryan-porteous-hibs-transfer-quirk-25931947

another 'scoop' that looks lifted straight from here

I would rather Udinese bought him and immediately loaned him to us.

CapitalGreen
11-01-2023, 11:05 AM
That site seems to be very "establishment" club affiliated

It’s owned by Reach PLC and essentially just Daily Record content rebadged to get traffic from people who refuse to read the Daily Record.

BoomtownHibees
11-01-2023, 11:17 AM
C

I also watched that game. In addition to Anderson playing well against Martinelli, Oxford’s left back was the guy Brown (with a ponytail) that used to play for Livi and he hardly gave Saka a kick of the ball and I remember thinking I wouldn’t mind seeing both of them at Hibs.

Seems to now be part of an investigation in to an irregular betting pattern linked to his booking in the Arsenal game

Saint Hibee
11-01-2023, 11:19 AM
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/ryan-porteous-hibs-transfer-quirk-25931947

another 'scoop' that looks lifted straight from here

Looks like another Pozzi scheme ...

flash
11-01-2023, 11:32 AM
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/ryan-porteous-new-frontrunners-in-race-to-sign-hibs-defender-with-january-departure-likely-3982404
Toulouse now being touted. Don't think he will be with us much longer.

nonshinyfinish
11-01-2023, 11:54 AM
Signed for Spurs in 2015 which is after he played for Clissold Rangers, Clissold Rangers look like grass roots junior teams , don't see that as being an issue.

Was just a joke about him being 'ex-Rangers'.

04Sauzee
11-01-2023, 11:59 AM
Was just a joke about him being 'ex-Rangers'.

What you doing joking on a Wednesday morning when I'm not fully alert trying to work 🤪😀

SHODAN
11-01-2023, 12:13 PM
Can we at least keep him for the derby?

HFC93
11-01-2023, 12:28 PM
I wonder if Hibs are keen to sell Porteous so we can negotiate a decent sell on clause which could be worth a lot of money for the club in the future? Don't think we could do that if he goes for free in the summer?

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EGL2000
11-01-2023, 12:31 PM
I wonder if Hibs are keen to sell Porteous so we can negotiate a decent sell on clause which could be worth a lot of money for the club in the future? Don't think we could do that if he goes for free in the summer?

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Yeah I think that's the main reason for me. Not possible to get a sell on fee if he moves out of contract.

Iain G
11-01-2023, 12:31 PM
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/ryan-porteous-new-frontrunners-in-race-to-sign-hibs-defender-with-january-departure-likely-3982404
Toulouse now being touted. Don't think he will be with us much longer.

I don't think Ryan likes Toulouse

HoboHarry
11-01-2023, 12:35 PM
I don't think Ryan likes Toulouse
He's used to it with us mind.

JimBHibees
11-01-2023, 12:40 PM
He's used to it with us mind.

Boom boom :greengrin

Not In The Know
11-01-2023, 12:58 PM
Can we at least keep him for the derby?

I'd be pretty disappointed if he left before it TBH.

Bostonhibby
11-01-2023, 01:54 PM
I don't think Ryan likes ToulouseIt's a bit of a trek

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CropleyWasGod
11-01-2023, 02:17 PM
It's a bit of a trek

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:greengrin

Iain G
11-01-2023, 02:26 PM
It's a bit of a trek

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Surely Toulouse, less trek?

GreenCastle
11-01-2023, 02:34 PM
Can we at least keep him for the derby?

You would hope Hibs and Ryan would want to play the derby as his last game.

Hopefully they don’t just see the ££ and sell him before then expect a replacement to come in and improve the team straight away.

Bostonhibby
11-01-2023, 02:35 PM
Surely Toulouse, less trek?[emoji23]

It's all French to me, I'm going for a lie down.

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I'm Spartacus
11-01-2023, 02:44 PM
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/ryan-porteous-new-frontrunners-in-race-to-sign-hibs-defender-with-january-departure-likely-3982404
Toulouse now being touted. Don't think he will be with us much longer.

Toulouse sounds...... Nice

HoboHarry
11-01-2023, 02:46 PM
Toulouse sounds...... Nice
No it doesn't - you're Lyon.....

Donegal Hibby
11-01-2023, 02:50 PM
No it doesn't - you're Lyon.....
Now that Angers me !:greengrin

Hibby70
11-01-2023, 02:53 PM
I expect we'll make a right brest of it.

JohnM1875
11-01-2023, 02:54 PM
No! Please, not a pun train.

Especially when everyone is dying on some transfer news haha.

Iain G
11-01-2023, 02:57 PM
No! Please, not a pun train.

Especially when everyone is dying on some transfer news haha.

Yes we need the Nimes of some new players for Le Mans team :greengrin

HoboHarry
11-01-2023, 03:00 PM
No! Please, not a pun train.

Especially when everyone is dying on some transfer news haha.
We're just having a Lille fun.....

SonOfDavidFrancey
11-01-2023, 03:00 PM
No! Please, not a pun train.

Especially when everyone is dying on some transfer news haha.

We’re gonna get Reims and Reims of them

SonOfDavidFrancey
11-01-2023, 03:02 PM
No! Please, not a pun train.

Especially when everyone is dying on some transfer news haha.

Don’t take it Lyon down, you can always try another thread, you’ve nothing Toulouse

Fuzzywuzzy
11-01-2023, 03:03 PM
Listen you Bastia's!! Stop being so nancy!! I get you're troyes-ing to have a laugh but it's niort working!!

Bostonhibby
11-01-2023, 03:05 PM
Listen you Bastia's!! Stop being so nancy!! I get you're troyes-ing to have a laugh but it's niort working!!It's a load of Pissevieille.

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Willis1875
11-01-2023, 03:14 PM
It might sort out his Angers issues

JeMeSouviens
11-01-2023, 03:17 PM
It might sort out his Angers issues

Give him a Cannes-do attitude?

MKHIBEE
11-01-2023, 03:18 PM
What a load of Nantes ense

JohnM1875
11-01-2023, 03:19 PM
Thank you all for proving my point. A pun is never funny 👍

NORTHERNHIBBY
11-01-2023, 03:21 PM
Thank you all for proving my point. A pun is never funny 👍

That's Niort always true.

Willis1875
11-01-2023, 03:22 PM
I’m Bored-eaux with it all now

04Sauzee
11-01-2023, 03:22 PM
Riku Danzaki in Motherwell transfer bid as Stevie Hammell eyes latest Japanese recruit to SPFL

Alfiembra
11-01-2023, 03:26 PM
Riku Danzaki in Motherwell transfer bid as Stevie Hammell eyes latest Japanese recruit to SPFL

Im going to Nippon to the Motherwell forum for a look.

SaulGoodman
11-01-2023, 03:30 PM
🙄

staunchhibby
11-01-2023, 03:32 PM
That a subtle hint Saul lol

HendoDelivered
11-01-2023, 03:47 PM
🙄

:agree: cringey stuff

allezsauzee
11-01-2023, 03:54 PM
too much punning Gueugnon here

Donegal Hibby
11-01-2023, 03:58 PM
Im going to Nippon to the Motherwell forum for a look.
I'm going to take it Eze and have a few Ales and Cognac while I wait on you reporting back👍

sambajustice
11-01-2023, 03:59 PM
You've all merde a right mess of this thread now!

I'm Spartacus
11-01-2023, 04:02 PM
You've all merde a right METZ of this thread now!

Fixed that for you Mon Ami :)

HoboHarry
11-01-2023, 04:34 PM
Wonder if any reporters are hiding in the bouche(s)?

leith lynx
11-01-2023, 04:48 PM
Riku Danzaki in Motherwell transfer bid as Stevie Hammell eyes latest Japanese recruit to SPFL

Better be good or Hammell will be Sakki'd soon...

erin go bragh
11-01-2023, 06:14 PM
Bad enough with no transfer news and that’s without the puns 😫

Hibernian Verse
11-01-2023, 06:57 PM
Better be good or Hammell will be Sakki'd soon...

You could’ve used “Sake’d” there

Greencore
11-01-2023, 07:33 PM
Port(o) will fit in with the French.

high bee
11-01-2023, 07:57 PM
Is there really no transfer rumours? I can’t remember it ever being this quiet.

bingo70
11-01-2023, 08:03 PM
Is there really no transfer rumours? I can’t remember it ever being this quiet.

https://twitter.com/skysportssfa/status/1613245192496111635?s=46&t=GyRozsZ2gBqQ05Sa5z2HzQ

There’s a rumour for you.

It’s a pish rumour from a pish source but **** it, it’s a name 😂

JimBHibees
11-01-2023, 08:21 PM
https://twitter.com/skysportssfa/status/1613245192496111635?s=46&t=GyRozsZ2gBqQ05Sa5z2HzQ

There’s a rumour for you.

It’s a pish rumour from a pish source but **** it, it’s a name 😂

So that isn't sky sports?

bingo70
11-01-2023, 08:24 PM
So that isn't sky sports?

Nah, someone pretending to be.

Wasn’t me that asked for a rumour, don’t shoot the messenger.

Big_Franck
11-01-2023, 08:27 PM
So that isn't sky sports?

No, it's a fake sky sports account.

JimBHibees
11-01-2023, 08:27 PM
Nah, someone pretending to be.

Wasn’t me that asked for a rumour, don’t shoot the messenger.

:greengrin

JimBHibees
11-01-2023, 08:29 PM
No, it's a fake sky sports account.

Cool some people should really get a life :greengrin

Big_Franck
11-01-2023, 08:43 PM
Can we at least keep him for the derby?

We absolutely need to. It would be madness to sell him before the derby. I don't see what the rush is as I can't imagine the bids we'll get for him will be huge anyway.

SMAXXA
11-01-2023, 09:22 PM
We absolutely need to. It would be madness to sell him before the derby. I don't see what the rush is as I can't imagine the bids we'll get for him will be huge anyway.

I think it’s more hibs trying to get the best deal which includes a sell on clause which is difficult due to his contract length so would not be surprised to see a smaller fee with a future sell on clause in the deal

PHeffernan
11-01-2023, 10:57 PM
I think it’s more hibs trying to get the best deal which includes a sell on clause which is difficult due to his contract length so would not be surprised to see a smaller fee with a future sell on clause in the deal

For me the buyer won't go for a sell on clause.
They will be looking to buy from us for £500k and sell for £4 million in 18 months time and they don't want to share the profit.
The reason there are so many clubs interested in Porteous is it is free money.
We are beached due to the lack of a contract beyond the summer and the vultures are here to pick us of.

Ronniekirk
11-01-2023, 11:13 PM
For me the buyer won't go for a sell on clause.
They will be looking to buy from us for £500k and sell for £4 million in 18 months time and they don't want to share the profit.
The reason there are so many clubs interested in Porteous is it is free money.
We are beached due to the lack of a contract beyond the summer and the vultures are here to pick us of.
The irony is we have spent a fair bit of money on promising players with a view to selling them on fir a profit When in fact the biggest profit was to be had from Porto if we had o my offered him the right deal years back
We could well be in the same position with Nisbet come the summer but at least we did try and get Nisbet tied down to new contract before his injury and he knocked it back

Stuart93
11-01-2023, 11:27 PM
I think it’s more hibs trying to get the best deal which includes a sell on clause which is difficult due to his contract length so would not be surprised to see a smaller fee with a future sell on clause in the deal

Which would do absolutely nothing to help our current predicament

I’d rather keep him than sell for a small fee and sell on

PHeffernan
11-01-2023, 11:50 PM
The irony is we have spent a fair bit of money on promising players with a view to selling them on fir a profit When in fact the biggest profit was to be had from Porto if we had o my offered him the right deal years back
We could well be in the same position with Nisbet come the summer but at least we did try and get Nisbet tied down to new contract before his injury and he knocked it back

There are a few factors in the Porto contract issue.
One of the biggest is the Covid epidemic which caused everyone to take their eye of the ball because of the sheer uncertainty of the time. When it started Porto had more than 3 years left on his contract. The outlook was bleak and the thought was could the club get through it intact rather than thinking about offering players new contracts.

As the mists of covid eventually began to clear lots of players including Porto were offered new contracts but I think by then he had decided he wasn't going to sign a new contract. Porto and his agent know the less money a club has to pay for his services the bigger the signing on fee and wages they can demand for Ryan.

As ever we don't know all the facts about when contracts were offered and how much was offered but in all the circumstances the player has chosen to walk which is his right.

Come the summer we will need to sell Nisbet before he goes into the final year of his contract. Hopefully he stays fit and keeps scoring between now and then so we can get a good wedge for him which will allow us to bring some good quality players in to replace Kevin and Ryan and improve the quality in some of the other positions.

Rumble de Thump
12-01-2023, 12:51 AM
For me the buyer won't go for a sell on clause.
They will be looking to buy from us for £500k and sell for £4 million in 18 months time and they don't want to share the profit.
The reason there are so many clubs interested in Porteous is it is free money.
We are beached due to the lack of a contract beyond the summer and the vultures are here to pick us of.

Out of these two options the sell on clause would be the much better one for the buying club, and risk-free.

CapitalGreen
12-01-2023, 07:05 AM
There are a few factors in the Porto contract issue.
One of the biggest is the Covid epidemic which caused everyone to take their eye of the ball because of the sheer uncertainty of the time. When it started Porto had more than 3 years left on his contract. The outlook was bleak and the thought was could the club get through it intact rather than thinking about offering players new contracts.

As the mists of covid eventually began to clear lots of players including Porto were offered new contracts but I think by then he had decided he wasn't going to sign a new contract. Porto and his agent know the less money a club has to pay for his services the bigger the signing on fee and wages they can demand for Ryan.

As ever we don't know all the facts about when contracts were offered and how much was offered but in all the circumstances the player has chosen to walk which is his right.

Come the summer we will need to sell Nisbet before he goes into the final year of his contract. Hopefully he stays fit and keeps scoring between now and then so we can get a good wedge for him which will allow us to bring some good quality players in to replace Kevin and Ryan and improve the quality in some of the other positions.

A new contract should have been sorted for Porto well before covid happened. He signed his current contract in 2018 having made only 9 league starts. By the time of the covid shutdown he was an established first team regular with an important role in the team and should have been given a new contract which reflected this.

bingo70
12-01-2023, 07:42 AM
A new contract should have been sorted for Porto well before covid happened. He signed his current contract in 2018 having made only 9 league starts. By the time of the covid shutdown he was an established first team regular with an important role in the team and should have been given a new contract which reflected this.

I find it hard to believe we just forgot about Porto while we were offering new contracts to the likes of Campbell and JDH amongst others. I suspect there was little to no appetite from Porto to sign a new contract.

Maybe we weren’t aggressive enough in offering him crazy money to stay but without being involved in the negotiations it’s hard to know that.

CapitalGreen
12-01-2023, 07:54 AM
I find it hard to believe we just forgot about Porto while we were offering new contracts to the likes of Campbell and JDH amongst others. I suspect there was little to no appetite from Porto to sign a new contract.

Maybe we weren’t aggressive enough in offering him crazy money to stay but without being involved in the negotiations it’s hard to know that.

Campbell and JDH’s contracts were given in late 2021 after BK was appointed and we started be a lot more pro-active in tying our “talent” down to longer deals. By that point we’d already rejected bids for Porteous and he didn’t want to extend the length of his contract. We should have been extending Porto’s contract by giving him a wage commensurate to his role in the team well before BK was on the scene.

RossScott1991
12-01-2023, 08:46 AM
Might be one of very few with this opinion. But I’m not fussed about incomings in this window. If it means we completely trim the squad / wage bill. Focus on the outs. I’d rather we then put a plan in place / more care into going for targets in the summer rather than January transfer window. I think we have enough at top end of pitch to stay clear of relegation trouble.

If we can spend rest season with a core of 16-18 senior players and maybe give a couple of younger lads more appearances I’d take that.

Similar to what Arteta did at Arsenal last January were they got rid of deadwood / guys on big contracts. Reduced wage bill by 40% then did all their smart business in the summer.

I won’t get hysterical if we don’t sign anyone , don’t want the scatter gun approach. Very few January signings have ever been worth it.

If we can focus on keeping nisbet, Mcgeady and Magennis fit then I don’t think we will be in trouble.

nonshinyfinish
12-01-2023, 08:51 AM
Might be one of very few with this opinion. But I’m not fussed about incomings in this window. If it means we completely trim the squad / wage bill. Focus on the outs. I’d rather we then put a plan in place / more care into going for targets in the summer rather than January transfer window. I think we have enough at top end of pitch to stay clear of relegation trouble.

If we can spend rest season with a core of 16-18 senior players and maybe give a couple of younger lads more appearances I’d take that.

Similar to what Arteta did at Arsenal last January were they got rid of deadwood / guys on big contracts. Reduced wage bill by 40% then did all their smart business in the summer.

I won’t get hysterical if we don’t sign anyone , don’t want the scatter gun approach. Very few January signings have ever been worth it.

If we can focus on keeping nisbet, Mcgeady and Magennis fit then I don’t think we will be in trouble.

I agree with that. Of course ideally I'd prefer us to strengthen now in order to push for 4th (or even 3rd), but it just doesn't seem plausible with the current recruitment setup and the constraints of the January window.

Trinity Hibee
12-01-2023, 08:53 AM
Might be one of very few with this opinion. But I’m not fussed about incomings in this window. If it means we completely trim the squad / wage bill. Focus on the outs. I’d rather we then put a plan in place / more care into going for targets in the summer rather than January transfer window. I think we have enough at top end of pitch to stay clear of relegation trouble.

If we can spend rest season with a core of 16-18 senior players and maybe give a couple of younger lads more appearances I’d take that.

Similar to what Arteta did at Arsenal last January were they got rid of deadwood / guys on big contracts. Reduced wage bill by 40% then did all their smart business in the summer.

I won’t get hysterical if we don’t sign anyone , don’t want the scatter gun approach. Very few January signings have ever been worth it.

If we can focus on keeping nisbet, Mcgeady and Magennis fit then I don’t think we will be in trouble.

I do get this POV but I’d like to see a couple of decent quality loans come in for defence and midfield. If we lose Porto that’s one starter gone. We also seem to keep getting injuries and we know those on the bench are deemed not good enough. If we want top 6 we need at least 1 or 2 in I’d suggest.

Loans leave in the summer and allow us to start again.

Agree it looks like we have enough upfront to stay clear of a relegation battle.

bingo70
12-01-2023, 08:59 AM
Might be one of very few with this opinion. But I’m not fussed about incomings in this window. If it means we completely trim the squad / wage bill. Focus on the outs. I’d rather we then put a plan in place / more care into going for targets in the summer rather than January transfer window. I think we have enough at top end of pitch to stay clear of relegation trouble.

If we can spend rest season with a core of 16-18 senior players and maybe give a couple of younger lads more appearances I’d take that.

Similar to what Arteta did at Arsenal last January were they got rid of deadwood / guys on big contracts. Reduced wage bill by 40% then did all their smart business in the summer.

I won’t get hysterical if we don’t sign anyone , don’t want the scatter gun approach. Very few January signings have ever been worth it.

If we can focus on keeping nisbet, Mcgeady and Magennis fit then I don’t think we will be in trouble.

I’m a lot more relaxed about it now I know there’s a longer term plan.

If we have decided to just hang fire so we can really start to build going forward then that makes more sense than throwing good money after bad. This season shouldn’t be a right off already but being honest, it probably is.

If porto leaves this window as expected then he needs replaced but other than that, I’m happy to hold our nerve a bit and see what happens.

Scotty Leither
12-01-2023, 09:10 AM
I’d have hoped we’d have had a couple of starters in the door to help us win this Cup tie.

Heisenberg
12-01-2023, 09:16 AM
Jack Brydon going to QOTS with Marv. 2.5 year deal.

Onceinawhile
12-01-2023, 09:16 AM
Jack brydon joining qots on a permanent.

Another one gone but can't imagine this will make much room on the wage bill

04Sauzee
12-01-2023, 09:17 AM
Jack Brydon going to QOTS with Marv. 2.5 year deal.

Thought he was highly rated?

The Modfather
12-01-2023, 09:17 AM
Might be one of very few with this opinion. But I’m not fussed about incomings in this window. If it means we completely trim the squad / wage bill. Focus on the outs. I’d rather we then put a plan in place / more care into going for targets in the summer rather than January transfer window. I think we have enough at top end of pitch to stay clear of relegation trouble.

If we can spend rest season with a core of 16-18 senior players and maybe give a couple of younger lads more appearances I’d take that.

Similar to what Arteta did at Arsenal last January were they got rid of deadwood / guys on big contracts. Reduced wage bill by 40% then did all their smart business in the summer.

I won’t get hysterical if we don’t sign anyone , don’t want the scatter gun approach. Very few January signings have ever been worth it.

If we can focus on keeping nisbet, Mcgeady and Magennis fit then I don’t think we will be in trouble.

I agree with much of that, although think we have to bring in a proper midfielder. We’re always only a, likely, injury to Magennis away from having nothing in the middle of the park.

I’d also have doubts about whether we would actually promote some of the U19s or just persist with guys with no real future at Hibs, like Henderson IMO, in the same way we did with Drey Wright last season.

chippy
12-01-2023, 09:21 AM
Thought he was highly rated?

Jacob Blaney under 19s CB is highly rated. Capped recently for under 19s recently

CL0762
12-01-2023, 09:25 AM
Thought he was highly rated?

From what I’d heard, he was held in similar regard to Porteous when he was coming through.

Quite surprised at that news.

The Modfather
12-01-2023, 09:32 AM
I don’t really have an issue with moving on any of Bradley, Bojang or Brydon. However I’m hoping they aren’t any of the 10 or so Johnson talked about moving on. We won’t have saved much wages wise and haven’t actually created and space in the first team squad.

Brightside
12-01-2023, 09:38 AM
Jack Brydon going to QOTS with Marv. 2.5 year deal.

Is this the start of the "Dev" team disposal. Id have kept him ahead of Will Fish for starters. I expect anyone who is currently on Loan will also be moved on. The 18s become the defecto Reserve squad.

Brightside
12-01-2023, 09:39 AM
Jacob Blaney under 19s CB is highly rated. Capped recently for under 19s recently

For me Jack was better than Jacob.

MrRobot
12-01-2023, 09:42 AM
I don’t really have an issue with moving on any of Bradley, Bojang or Brydon. However I’m hoping they aren’t any of the 10 or so Johnson talked about moving on. We won’t have saved much wages wise and haven’t actually created and space in the first team squad.

There wasn’t a list of 10 to be moved on. he was saying as an example that he would rather lose 10 fringe and sign 1 quality player as it’s of more value.

brog
12-01-2023, 09:44 AM
Sadly Celtic are that far ahead of us that players not even in their plans could be solid first team starters for us. Think he's personally a really good player and him not being loaned out shows they are happy to have him filling in when needed.

Just because Celtic are willing to let players go does not mean they lack quality. They are letting last season's top scorer who was Netherlands top scorer the season before go!

We were told pretty much the same about Ewan Henderson before we signed him!

Brightside
12-01-2023, 09:45 AM
There wasn’t a list of 10 to be moved on. he was saying as an example that he would rather lose 10 fringe and sign 1 quality player as it’s of more value.

Yeh I never read it as about wages more about just having too many players. That's evident at training now where many players don't train with the first team squad as there is too many of them. There is a lack of opportunities for the youth squad to be part of that now.

cammy1969
12-01-2023, 10:17 AM
Might be one of very few with this opinion. But I’m not fussed about incomings in this window. If it means we completely trim the squad / wage bill. Focus on the outs. I’d rather we then put a plan in place / more care into going for targets in the summer rather than January transfer window. I think we have enough at top end of pitch to stay clear of relegation trouble.

If we can spend rest season with a core of 16-18 senior players and maybe give a couple of younger lads more appearances I’d take that.

Similar to what Arteta did at Arsenal last January were they got rid of deadwood / guys on big contracts. Reduced wage bill by 40% then did all their smart business in the summer.

I won’t get hysterical if we don’t sign anyone , don’t want the scatter gun approach. Very few January signings have ever been worth it.

If we can focus on keeping nisbet, Mcgeady and Magennis fit then I don’t think we will be in trouble.

I agree with everything you have said here, hopefully we can do something similar


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grunt
12-01-2023, 10:18 AM
Enigmatic tweet from Hibs official account. https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1613492287820136448?s=20&t=-EC1AmDYyMCiU9B2LxJJcA

Porto away?

LancsHibs
12-01-2023, 10:36 AM
Enigmatic tweet from Hibs official account. https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1613492287820136448?s=20&t=-EC1AmDYyMCiU9B2LxJJcA

Porto away?
A photo of Porto & Rocky with a fist emoji? Sorry I don’t understand

Onceinawhile
12-01-2023, 10:37 AM
Enigmatic tweet from Hibs official account. https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1613492287820136448?s=20&t=-EC1AmDYyMCiU9B2LxJJcA

Porto away?

Think you're reading too much into that.

Stuart93
12-01-2023, 10:39 AM
Might be one of very few with this opinion. But I’m not fussed about incomings in this window. If it means we completely trim the squad / wage bill. Focus on the outs. I’d rather we then put a plan in place / more care into going for targets in the summer rather than January transfer window. I think we have enough at top end of pitch to stay clear of relegation trouble.

If we can spend rest season with a core of 16-18 senior players and maybe give a couple of younger lads more appearances I’d take that.

Similar to what Arteta did at Arsenal last January were they got rid of deadwood / guys on big contracts. Reduced wage bill by 40% then did all their smart business in the summer.

I won’t get hysterical if we don’t sign anyone , don’t want the scatter gun approach. Very few January signings have ever been worth it.

If we can focus on keeping nisbet, Mcgeady and Magennis fit then I don’t think we will be in trouble.

I’d probably just about we comfortable with this BUT as long as we don’t get dragged into a relegation scrap of a few key men get injured, I don’t think the squad has the depth to deal with them

And at the same time, despite the hysterics and i include myself in that, we are only 3 points off 4th. Being in a European place at the end of the season would seem like a minor miracle but it is achievable. I’d like to see two or three GOOD loan signing/signings in the door purely for that reason.

Percy Vere
12-01-2023, 10:41 AM
Might be one of very few with this opinion. But I’m not fussed about incomings in this window. If it means we completely trim the squad / wage bill. Focus on the outs. I’d rather we then put a plan in place / more care into going for targets in the summer rather than January transfer window. I think we have enough at top end of pitch to stay clear of relegation trouble.

If we can spend rest season with a core of 16-18 senior players and maybe give a couple of younger lads more appearances I’d take that.

Similar to what Arteta did at Arsenal last January were they got rid of deadwood / guys on big contracts. Reduced wage bill by 40% then did all their smart business in the summer.

I won’t get hysterical if we don’t sign anyone , don’t want the scatter gun approach. Very few January signings have ever been worth it.

If we can focus on keeping nisbet, Mcgeady and Magennis fit then I don’t think we will be in trouble.

I like your thinking
My worry is these three have had significant injuries and everything rides on keeping them fit. Even one if them injured is serious for Hibs.
Therefore if we can bring in one or two quality players and trim off 8-10 that works for me. Get in new Director of Football and build in the summer.

chippy
12-01-2023, 10:44 AM
Is this the start of the "Dev" team disposal. Id have kept him ahead of Will Fish for starters. I expect anyone who is currently on Loan will also be moved on. The 18s become the defecto Reserve squad.

We’ve still got the under 19s, but it does appear like those on short contracts till the summer are getting bumped unless they are in the 19s Euro squad- that will be the de facto development team- hopefully we can keep most of them like Johnson, Laidlaw, Hamilton, Megwa, Zaid, O’Connor, Aitken.

bingo70
12-01-2023, 10:50 AM
Enigmatic tweet from Hibs official account. https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1613492287820136448?s=20&t=-EC1AmDYyMCiU9B2LxJJcA

Porto away?

I tend to look into photos like that probably too much as well thinking there must be some sort of reason for it.

Chances are the other posters who have replied are right but with there being so much speculation about Porto just now, a random photo of him does make my ears prick up a bit too. Photo could suggest a sort of handing over of the baton type image……. It probably doesn’t though and is more likely just a random photo to promote the game this weekend 😂

EGL2000
12-01-2023, 10:59 AM
We were told pretty much the same about Ewan Henderson before we signed him!

He had been loaned out to Ross county and Dunfermline and not performed very well. Celtic have kept Welsh around cause he's a much better player than Henderson.

Dmas
12-01-2023, 11:05 AM
We’ve still got the under 19s, but it does appear like those on short contracts till the summer are getting bumped unless they are in the 19s Euro squad- that will be the de facto development team- hopefully we can keep most of them like Johnson, Laidlaw, Hamilton, Megwa, Zaid, O’Connor, Aitken.

There’s a poster on twitter claiming laidlaw has an offer on reduced terms or he can leave as he isn’t close yet to first team level

These guys have been successful but it’s still i big old leap from u19 to first team

500miles
12-01-2023, 11:09 AM
He had been loaned out to Ross county and Dunfermline and not performed very well. Celtic have kept Welsh around cause he's a much better player than Henderson.

That's not true regarding Dunfermline. He certainly outshone Fraser Murray.

chippy
12-01-2023, 11:13 AM
There’s a poster on twitter claiming laidlaw has an offer on reduced terms or he can leave as he isn’t close yet to first team level

These guys have been successful but it’s still i big old leap from u19 to first team

Jeezo , who’s making these decisions I wonder. Based on football ability or money ?

EGL2000
12-01-2023, 11:16 AM
That's not true regarding Dunfermline. He certainly outshone Fraser Murray.

My Grandad is a Dunfermline fan and at the time said he was very average definitely nothing special. Surely Hibs should only be looking to sign top performers from the championship?

The original poster was also comparing Henderson with Welsh. Welsh has played considerably more for Celtic than Henderson ever did.

CapitalGreen
12-01-2023, 11:18 AM
That's not true regarding Dunfermline. He certainly outshone Fraser Murray.

Is that the bar? Fraser Murray wasn’t good enough for us either.

Hibernian Verse
12-01-2023, 11:24 AM
I’d probably just about we comfortable with this BUT as long as we don’t get dragged into a relegation scrap of a few key men get injured, I don’t think the squad has the depth to deal with them

And at the same time, despite the hysterics and i include myself in that, we are only 3 points off 4th. Being in a European place at the end of the season would seem like a minor miracle but it is achievable. I’d like to see two or three GOOD loan signing/signings in the door purely for that reason.

I really don't think that's the case.

We had a horrific run of form, but if we added a couple of good players as you say I think we will be up there quite comfortably.

1875Sean
12-01-2023, 11:35 AM
I wonder if Johnson and Delferrière are away too, maybe the reason why they were recalled

flash
12-01-2023, 11:38 AM
Jeezo , who’s making these decisions I wonder. Based on football ability or money ?

What decisions?

chippy
12-01-2023, 11:40 AM
What decisions?

Laidlaw, with caveat , if true

hibsforeurope
12-01-2023, 11:43 AM
There’s a poster on twitter claiming laidlaw has an offer on reduced terms or he can leave as he isn’t close yet to first team level

These guys have been successful but it’s still i big old leap from u19 to first team

I wonder how a contract offer on reduced terms will impact any development fee we are due.

I'm fairly sure no offer negates a development fee but not sure what a reduced offer entails.

bingo70
12-01-2023, 11:45 AM
I wonder how a contract offer on reduced terms will impact any development fee we are due.

I'm fairly sure no offer negates a development fee but not sure what a reduced offer entails.

Offer needs to be wages on at least the same terms as before to entitle us to a development fee.

hibee-boys
12-01-2023, 11:58 AM
There’s a poster on twitter claiming laidlaw has an offer on reduced terms or he can leave as he isn’t close yet to first team level

These guys have been successful but it’s still i big old leap from u19 to first team

If that’s true it’s a worry, wasn’t he touted as one of the top prospects at one point. Appreciate that there a very big drop off between youth football and making our first team but you’d think we’d be able to uncover than more 1 or 2 a decade! Since Hanlon/Stevenson……10 plus years ago we’ve had Porteous, Josh Campbell…..can’t think if any others🤷🏼

flash
12-01-2023, 11:59 AM
Laidlaw, with caveat , if true

Yeah but that is a massive caveat.

Hibs90
12-01-2023, 12:04 PM
Apparently a bid from an Eng Champ club has come in for Nisbet

Stuart93
12-01-2023, 12:07 PM
Apparently a bid from an Eng Champ club has come in for Nisbet

Unless it’s eye watering there’s no chance we let him go

Brightside
12-01-2023, 12:10 PM
Apparently a bid from an Eng Champ club has come in for Nisbet

Source?

04Sauzee
12-01-2023, 12:11 PM
Apparently a bid from an Eng Champ club has come in for Nisbet

Heard/read where?