Winter 2022-23 transfer thread

[Hibs90]

Was tweeted by an English journalist but I can no longer find it, must’ve been deleted

[Fuzzywuzzy]

I wonder if Johnson and Delferrière are away too, maybe the reason why they were recalled

Could have been requested by the players to return. May want to go elsewhere if not getting much time there

[cabbageandribs1875]

I don’t really have an issue with moving on any of Bradley, Bojang or Brydon. However I’m hoping they aren’t any of the 10 or so Johnson talked about moving on. We won’t have saved much wages wise and haven’t actually created and space in the first team squad.


we're getting shot of players in alphabetical order

[SteveHFC]

There’s a poster on twitter claiming laidlaw has an offer on reduced terms or he can leave as he isn’t close yet to first team level

These guys have been successful but it’s still i big old leap from u19 to first team

Laidlaw should have already been given the chance.

[CentreLine]

A photo of Porto & Rocky with a fist emoji? Sorry I don’t understand

New deal for Porto ?🫣

Nope. Ah well, you can but try

[matty_f]

I don’t really have an issue with moving on any of Bradley, Bojang or Brydon. However I’m hoping they aren’t any of the 10 or so Johnson talked about moving on. We won’t have saved much wages wise and haven’t actually created and space in the first team squad.

I don't think the ten figure was ever meant to be taken literally, it was used when he said he'd rather move out ten and bring in one quality, not that he was looking to trim the squad to that extent.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Offer needs to be wages on at least the same terms as before to entitle us to a development fee.

If that’s the case I’d be very surprised if we haven’t matched it.

[HIBS NUTS]

Laidlaw should have already been given the chance.

I would be amazed if laidlaw s new contract was less, considering he’s just turned18 recently.
I would imagine the vast majority of new contracts for 18 year olds, would be much higher than when playing under 18 football.

[SMAXXA]

we're getting shot of players in alphabetical order

😂😂😂😂😂 Cadden is bricking it now

[badabing67]

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What is the situation with his injury, does anyone know

[Hibbyradge]

Laidlaw should have already been given the chance.

Why?

[The Modfather]

I don't think the ten figure was ever meant to be taken literally, it was used when he said he'd rather move out ten and bring in one quality, not that he was looking to trim the squad to that extent.

A fair point. Although think my general point still stands that none of the 3 that have left will have freed up much wages nor created any space in the first team squad.

[J-C]

I wonder if Johnson and Delferrière are away too, maybe the reason why they were recalled


There seems to be a bit of a problem with our link to FC Edinburgh, both parties not very happy, so the players have returmed.

[GloryGlory]

A bit left field, but possible DoF?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10049871/alan-burrows-leave-motherwell-premiership-longest-serving-ceo/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=ScottishSunSportTwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1673523353

[The Modfather]

Why?

We’ve struggled for goals for two seasons now. In that time we’ve seen Nisbet, Boyle & McGeady injured for long periods and had to rely on two guys on loan in Youan and the Ukrainian lad. In that time we’ve also had a striker score on trial at Liverpool and score most weeks in the U19s. Yet he’s rarely, if ever, made the bench. We also continue to bring Henderson on who isn’t any more physically developed than those in the U19s.

[Stuart93]

A bit left field, but possible DoF?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10049871/alan-burrows-leave-motherwell-premiership-longest-serving-ceo/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=ScottishSunSportTwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1673523353

Think he’s more BK’s role than a DoF.

I’d probably have him ahead of BK though

[Shrekko]

Unless it’s eye watering there’s no chance we let him go

It'll be eye watering for KN, and that's where it start's getting difficult.

His form fell of a cliff after the previous interest was turned down and he ended up playing to a level where he wasn't worth nearly as much. His stock has all of a sudden gone up again and he's only got 18 months left on his deal..... Might be hard to turn down a good bid or we end up with potentially another Porto situation.

[Paul1642]

It'll be eye watering for KN, and that's where it start's getting difficult.

His form fell of a cliff after the previous interest was turned down and he ended up playing to a level where he wasn't worth nearly as much. His stock has all of a sudden gone up again and he's only got 18 months left on his deal..... Might be hard to turn down a good bid or we end up with potentially another Porto situation.

True although for as long as I can remember in situations like this I have been a believer of taking the money and using to strengthen the whole squad. Unfortunately we never do this with any success whatsoever and our performances drop. We can’t afford to loose Nisbet right now.

[Halmyre Hibee]

A bit left field, but possible DoF?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10049871/alan-burrows-leave-motherwell-premiership-longest-serving-ceo/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=ScottishSunSportTwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1673523353

I’d like Alan Burrows and John Park to both be given roles in our club but doubt we have positions for both.

[Smartie]

😂😂😂😂😂 Cadden is bricking it now

Zibi's dusted off his gloves.

[J-C]

It'll be eye watering for KN, and that's where it start's getting difficult.

His form fell of a cliff after the previous interest was turned down and he ended up playing to a level where he wasn't worth nearly as much. His stock has all of a sudden gone up again and he's only got 18 months left on his deal..... Might be hard to turn down a good bid or we end up with potentially another Porto situation.


Nisbet has never been shy in jumping from one club to another for more cash and a better league, if they're interested then so will he be.

[bigwheel]

Think he’s more BK’s role than a DoF.

I’d probably have him ahead of BK though

It’s a not uncommon narrative that …the rarely noted reality though is the quality and quantity of commercial growth that Ben has achieved at us, compared to that of Burrows can be measured in millions of pounds . We know we’ve not had the footballing success we should have - yet we are still ahead of Motherwell on that too …Burrows must be good at PR, because (whilst it may be an unpopular opinion on here ) Kensall is in a different league to him ..

[MWHIBBIES]

It'll be eye watering for KN, and that's where it start's getting difficult.

His form fell of a cliff after the previous interest was turned down and he ended up playing to a level where he wasn't worth nearly as much. His stock has all of a sudden gone up again and he's only got 18 months left on his deal..... Might be hard to turn down a good bid or we end up with potentially another Porto situation.

Do you not think his dad dying potentially effected his form more than a failed transfer?

[Shrekko]

Do you not think his dad dying potentially effected his form more than a failed transfer?

May have done -may have been a combination of both... or neither. But his form dropped at that point- nobody would deny than surely?

I'm talking purely about the fact his value nosedived before and it's back up now with 18 months of his deal left. Risk being if we turn down a good bid then we end up with nothing and (potentially) an unhappy player.

I don't want him to go but I think a good bid would be difficult to turn down for lots of reasons.

[wookie70]

😂😂😂😂😂 Cadden is bricking it now Cabraja even more worried

[SickBoy32]

May have done -may have been a combination of both... or neither. But his form dropped at that point- nobody would deny than surely?

I'm talking purely about the fact his value nosedived before and it's back up now with 18 months of his deal left. Risk being if we turn down a good bid then we end up with nothing and (potentially) an unhappy player.

I don't want him to go but I think a good bid would be difficult to turn down for lots of reasons.

Possibly overlooking the impact that replacing Boyle with Jasper at the end of Jan had on chances created / Nisbet form?

Find it alarming that anyone is even considering selling Porto, let alone Nisbet ffs

Would be akin to raising the white flag on the entire season, totally nuts

[eastmainsmsh]

Laidlaw should have already been given the chance.

Agree

[Shrekko]

Possibly overlooking the impact that replacing Boyle with Jasper at the end of Jan had on chances created / Nisbet form?



Nisbet's potential transfer was the year before, not last season. He was injured for most of the 2nd part of last season.

This is all totally hypothetical - nobody wants him to go, but if the player gets an opportunity the club will have to weigh a lot of things up. Nonsense to even imply we would just not entertain him leaving if that was what he wanted.

[eastmainsmsh]

Wonder if Sunderland interested in KN

[MWHIBBIES]

May have done -may have been a combination of both... or neither. But his form dropped at that point- nobody would deny than surely?

I'm talking purely about the fact his value nosedived before and it's back up now with 18 months of his deal left. Risk being if we turn down a good bid then we end up with nothing and (potentially) an unhappy player.

I don't want him to go but I think a good bid would be difficult to turn down for lots of reasons.

Both certainly could've effected him. One is significantly worse and more likely to impact him than the other, though.

Keep him and Ryan or we're in relegation trouble.

[SickBoy32]

Nisbet's potential transfer was the year before, not last season. He was injured for most of the 2nd part of last season.

This is all totally hypothetical - nobody wants him to go, but if the player gets an opportunity the club will have to weigh a lot of things up. Nonsense to even imply we would just not entertain him leaving if that was what he wanted.

I stand corrected - was only a year out ! :greengrin

Agree with your second point to an extent, but the club must prioritise what is best for the club - undoubtedly that is keeping our only goalscorer until the summer at least

[Stuart93]

It’s a not uncommon narrative that …the rarely noted reality though is the quality and quantity of commercial growth that Ben has achieved at us, compared to that of Burrows can be measured in millions of pounds . We know we’ve not had the footballing success we should have - yet we are still ahead of Motherwell on that too …Burrows must be good at PR, because (whilst it may be an unpopular opinion on here ) Kensall is in a different league to him ..

Yea you’re probably right to be fair, commercially we haven’t been better than we are just now.

Reckon it’s the poor decisions on the football side of things that are clouding my judgements

[HoboHarry]

Possibly overlooking the impact that replacing Boyle with Jasper at the end of Jan had on chances created / Nisbet form?

Find it alarming that anyone is even considering selling Porto, let alone Nisbet ffs

Would be akin to raising the white flag on the entire season, totally nuts
No it wouldn't.

[Bostonhibby]

A photo of Porto & Rocky with a fist emoji? Sorry I don’t understandPagger?

I'm going for rocky on points.

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[04Sauzee]

Jack Brydon going to QOTS with Marv. 2.5 year deal.

Looks like we received a small fee( development fee), hope there will something in there for future transfers or first option should he smash it at QOS.

[SickBoy32]

No it wouldn't.

Selling our only goalscorer and best centre half midway through a very disappointing season, is not the way to increase STs / achieve any semblance of sporting success, the team would be poorer - is that not a white flag ?!

When have we ever received a transfer fee and the team has subsequently improved?

I appreciate every club is a selling club to some extent , but there surely must be a balance struck at some point if we are ever going to try and improve the frequency of success at the club

[Since452]

Laidlaw should have already been given the chance.

I'm seeing this said a lot recently. Why should certain players be given a chance like it's their right? They need to be better than what we have. Laidlaw, Bradley etc would weaken our team. If they didn't then they would be in it.

[truehibernian]

Wee rumour we are looking at Akinyemi of Ayr United. Seems to have had more clubs than Lee Trevino but this season’s stats are very good in the Championship. Only 25 too.

[HoboHarry]

Selling our only goalscorer and best centre half midway through a very disappointing season, is not the way to increase STs / achieve any semblance of sporting success, the team would be poorer - is that not a white flag ?!

When have we ever received a transfer fee and the team has subsequently improved?

I appreciate every club is a selling club to some extent , but there surely must be a balance struck at some point if we are ever going to try and improve the frequency of success at the club

We can't keep Porto so we take however much we can get.

I'd rather get a substantial fee than keep an unhappy player. KN is perfectly correct to go for the bigger wages if available and we get a realistic fee. He had his head turned before and it will happen again.

I've no idea how to answer your transfer fee question - maybe we should just refuse to sell anyone and let every contract run down?

[Unseen work]

A tad surprised about Brydon as heard he was highly rated however we already have

Rocky
McLellend
Blaney

Who are all centre half’s and at different stages.

I’ve heard of loads of young players coming through that are meant to be brilliant but don’t make it with us, it rarely turns out to bite us.

Fraser Murray, Sean Welsh, Kurtis Byrne, Ross Campbell etc etc

Ultimately our whole club has too many players and we have managed to get rid of

Brydon
Balde
Bradley
Bojang

And free up their wages with 0 effect on the first team. I imagine plenty will still go but it will be saving valuable money

[Stevie Reid]

Wee rumour we are looking at Akinyemi of Ayr United. Seems to have had more clubs than Lee Trevino but this season’s stats are very good in the Championship. Only 25 too.

Tbf, it appears as if he was loaned to seven clubs between 2015 - 2018 whilst a Stevenage player, all before his 21st birthday. Seems to have scored a lot of goals in the last four years, albeit at a low level - but has tremendous numbers for Ayr this season (15 goals in 20 league starts).

Must be quite well suited for Scottish football, which would already be a step up from many of our signings in the last year.

[Stevie Reid]

Selling our only goalscorer and best centre half midway through a very disappointing season, is not the way to increase STs / achieve any semblance of sporting success, the team would be poorer - is that not a white flag ?!

When have we ever received a transfer fee and the team has subsequently improved?

I appreciate every club is a selling club to some extent , but there surely must be a balance struck at some point if we are ever going to try and improve the frequency of success at the club

Going back a bit but the money from the Kenny Miller sale was very well utilised and improved us massively.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

A tad surprised about Brydon as heard he was highly rated however we already have

Rocky
McLellend
Blaney

Who are all centre half’s and at different stages.

I’ve heard of loads of young players coming through that are meant to be brilliant but don’t make it with us, it rarely turns out to bite us.

Fraser Murray, Sean Welsh, Kurtis Byrne, Ross Campbell etc etc

Ultimately our whole club has too many players and we have managed to get rid of

Brydon
Balde
Bradley
Bojang

And free up their wages with 0 effect on the first team. I imagine plenty will still go but it will be saving valuable money

Clear out in alphabetical order, makes sense

[Heisenberg]

Wee rumour we are looking at Akinyemi of Ayr United. Seems to have had more clubs than Lee Trevino but this season’s stats are very good in the Championship. Only 25 too.

Not sure another striker is what we need right now.

[bingo70]

Tbf, it appears as if he was loaned to seven clubs between 2015 - 2018 whilst a Stevenage player, all before his 21st birthday. Seems to have scored a lot of goals in the last four years, albeit at a low level - but has tremendous numbers for Ayr this season (15 goals in 20 league starts).

Must be quite well suited for Scottish football, which would already be a step up from many of our signings in the last year.

Be good to get a player who’s career is on the upward trajectory as well rather than Hibs being one of many branches they’re hitting on the way down.

Only concern for me is that it’s probably the one position we don’t need strengthened. If we’re playing one up front we already have Nisbet and big Mike. If he’s show horned into the team as a winger we could have another McKirdy situation of someone who technically can play there, just not their best position.

[eastterrace]

Clear out in alphabetical order, makes senseboyle next then

[bingo70]

boyle next then

Are we not doing it in calendar order?

Bojang and Porto are the two January players, who’s February?

[ElginHibbie]

Dabrowski to QOTS until end of the season

[Heisenberg]

Are we not doing it in calendar order?

Bojang and Porto are the two January players, who’s February?

One of them is Dabrowski and he’s just left to go on loan to QOTS 😂 Marshall is the other…

[Logie]

Dabrowski away to queen of the south on loan until end of the season

[04Sauzee]

Dabrowski to QOTS until end of the season

Great move for him , needs to be playing football. Don't think he will be at Hibs next season. A really nice guy.

Actually Hibs have said this

'The 24-year-old goalkeeper’s contract expires at the conclusion of the current campaign, so this ends his time at the Club'

[bingo70]

One of them is Dabrowski and he’s just left to go on loan to QOTS 😂 Marshall is the other…

Any man in for the rest of the season?

[JeMeSouviens]

Not sure another striker is what we need right now.

Unless we're considering selling one :shocked:

[Trinity Hibee]

No it wouldn't.

It absolutely would. Madness to suggest otherwise. Anyway, let’s hope it doesn’t happen. I don’t think it will

[Blaster]

Unless we're considering selling one :shocked:

Or Melkerson or Mckirdy on loan??

[SickBoy32]

We can't keep Porto so we take however much we can get.

I'd rather get a substantial fee than keep an unhappy player. KN is perfectly correct to go for the bigger wages if available and we get a realistic fee. He had his head turned before and it will happen again.

I've no idea how to answer your transfer fee question - maybe we should just refuse to sell anyone and let every contract run down?

We can keep him til the end of the season? Alternatively, offload now, and weaken our defence (which has already conceded the joint highest goals in the league)

On Nisbet - tell him get the head down til the summer and we'll let you go, when it suits both parties.

Again - sell players when it suits both parties. The Boyle sale to Saudi absolutely did not suit the club, for example. Neither would Porto / Nisbet departure this month.

[MrRobot]

That’s a shame, liked Kevin but he wasn’t going to take the jersey from Marshall anytime soon.

[SickBoy32]

Going back a bit but the money from the Kenny Miller sale was very well utilised and improved us massively.

Fair point - however, us having to go back 20odd years when we have had multiple sales in the £m's kinda reinforces my point imo

[davhibby]

Shame about Dabrowski but if he wants to play regularly then fair enough. He was still a minimum 18 months away from that here.

[HoboHarry]

We can keep him til the end of the season? Alternatively, offload now, and weaken our defence (which has already conceded the joint highest goals in the league)

On Nisbet - tell him get the head down til the summer and we'll let you go, when it suits both parties.

Again - sell players when it suits both parties. The Boyle sale to Saudi absolutely did not suit the club, for example. Neither would Porto / Nisbet departure this month.
I honestly don't know if you are being serious. No responsible business is going to turn down cash for an asset that they about to lose anyway, to think otherwise is just daft. As for tell him to get the head down? Equally as daft, KN is a full international who could and should be earning far more than he does with us - his head will be turned and we need the cash to move forward since we don't have a billionaire Saudi owner.

[ericd7]

Shame about Dabrowski but if he wants to play regularly then fair enough. He was still a minimum 18 months away from that here.

Don't think it'd help his case for starting here much either that Murray Johnson seems to be very highly thought of and coming through too while being much younger.

[Billy Whizz]

Dabrowski away to queen of the south on loan until end of the season

Grant Murray is Bartleys assistant, he obviously knows the likes of Dabrowski well

[SickBoy32]

I honestly don't know if you are being serious. No responsible business is going to turn down cash for an asset that they about to lose anyway, to think otherwise is just daft. As for tell him to get the head down? Equally as daft, KN is a full international who could and should be earning far more than he does with us - his head will be turned and we need the cash to move forward since we don't have a billionaire Saudi owner.

Haha deadly serious - a responsible business?! Look at the cash down the drain in the last 12 months :confused:

Whatever paltry fee the club receive for Porto could quite easily be bettered by prize money from the league / SC, potential Euro cash and a strong end to the season which would protect the clubs #1 revenue stream, ST's

Nisbet signed a contract until summer 24, I'd expect him to be professional enough to accept a move in the summer when it suits all parties

[SteveHFC]

Don't think it'd help his case for starting here much either that Murray Johnson seems to be very highly thought of and coming through too while being much younger.

Wonder if Johnson will be our first choice goalie after Marshall.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Dabrowski was out of contract this summer so no chance of getting first team football here, wish the young man well for the future :agree:


if Poerteous leaves that will be three of our first four on the official calendar away :shocked:

[HoboHarry]

Haha deadly serious - a responsible business?! Look at the cash down the drain in the last 12 months :confused:

Whatever paltry fee the club receive for Porto could quite easily be bettered by prize money from the league / SC, potential Euro cash and a strong end to the season which would protect the clubs #1 revenue stream, ST's

Nisbet signed a contract until summer 24, I'd expect him to be professional enough to accept a move in the summer when it suits all parties
Aye it was just a fluke that Ron Gordon got to where he is financially. Anyway, I think you're at it so I'm out.

[MWHIBBIES]

Selling our only goalscorer and best centre half midway through a very disappointing season, is not the way to increase STs / achieve any semblance of sporting success, the team would be poorer - is that not a white flag ?!

When have we ever received a transfer fee and the team has subsequently improved?

I appreciate every club is a selling club to some extent , but there surely must be a balance struck at some point if we are ever going to try and improve the frequency of success at the club

Sold Allan for 500k and McGeouch. Signed mcginn. Much better side.

It is rare, though. We're mostly hopeless at signings let's be honest

[bigwheel]

Yea you’re probably right to be fair, commercially we haven’t been better than we are just now.

Reckon it’s the poor decisions on the football side of things that are clouding my judgements

Tbh Stuart. I’m sure it will cloud the emotions of Ben K and his team too . The video this week told us they know it needs to improve ..[emoji106]

[bingo70]

https://twitter.com/jamiekborthwick/status/1613574915063517186?s=46&t=UeRzpzv4qeLoYoD73Wqw7g

JDH not moving to Forest Green and in the squad this weekend.

[SickBoy32]

Aye it was just a fluke that Ron Gordon got to where he is financially. Anyway, I think you're at it so I'm out.

Ann Budge was a successful businesswoman too - took her a fair number of years and a relegation to get to grips with running a football club - hopefully RG learns a lot faster

[Stevie Reid]

Be good to get a player who’s career is on the upward trajectory as well rather than Hibs being one of many branches they’re hitting on the way down.

Only concern for me is that it’s probably the one position we don’t need strengthened. If we’re playing one up front we already have Nisbet and big Mike. If he’s show horned into the team as a winger we could have another McKirdy situation of someone who technically can play there, just not their best position.

Agree with all of that. Midfield and defence are much bigger priorities, forward areas we already have match winning quality.

[sadtom]

Nisbet’s form had been poor for several months before his long term injury.
Delighted to see him back and sticking the ball in the pokey.

But he’s only been back playing for 5 games. There was nobody else looking to pay his wages when he was crocked.
It’s Hibs who have given him a platform to achieve international recognition. Hibs who put him through his rehabilitation while paying his salary.

Hibs should not even be considering offers for him just now.

I would be extremely disappointed if he was trying to get out the door already.
I know there isn’t much loyalty in football these days but I hope he would at the very least show a little bit gratitude and want to do the biz for Hibs for the remainder of the season at minimum before trying to head for the exit.

[The dalmeny]

Dabrowski away to queen of the south on loan until end of the season

This stinks, when is Schofield here until?

Edit he's on a season long loan which meant there must be a plan to bring another keeper in

[bingo70]

This stinks, when is Schofield here until?

I think it’s the younger keeper that’s overtaken Dabrowski rather than anything to do with the loan signing.

Dabrowski seems like a genuinely great guy but he was never going tk be threatening to take over as number 1 for us. It’s the right move all round and nothing stinks about it IMO.

[Smartie]

Going back a bit but the money from the Kenny Miller sale was very well utilised and improved us massively.

Scott Allan to Celtic, with the permanent signing of Dylan McGeouch, Liam Henderson on loan and money which was effectively used for John McGinn was one of the few times we've lost a key player and managed to use what we gained in a relatively constructive manner.

It's not easy though, and quite a lot of clubs struggle to replace lost quality from the large pile of cash they get in exchange for that quality.

[JimBHibees]

Wee rumour we are looking at Akinyemi of Ayr United. Seems to have had more clubs than Lee Trevino but this season’s stats are very good in the Championship. Only 25 too.

Do you think any of the young folk will know who Lee Trevino is? :greengrin

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think it’s the younger keeper that’s overtaken Dabrowski rather than anything to do with the loan signing.

Dabrowski seems like a genuinely great guy but he was never going tk be threatening to take over as number 1 for us. It’s the right move all round and nothing stinks about it IMO.

:agree:

[The dalmeny]

I think it’s the younger keeper that’s overtaken Dabrowski rather than anything to do with the loan signing.

Dabrowski seems like a genuinely great guy but he was never going tk be threatening to take over as number 1 for us. It’s the right move all round and nothing stinks about it IMO.

Always helps your argument if you know ‘the younger keepers’ name

[Billy Whizz]

Wonder if Johnson will be our first choice goalie after Marshall.

My only worry with Johnson is apart from reserve games, where will he get tested at a higher level, before being No 1
He should be out on loan as soon as possible

[bingo70]

Always helps your argument if you know ‘the younger keepers’ name

Was I having an argument? I’d have used capital letters if I was arguing.

I actually thought we might have two good young keepers on our books so I didn’t want to humiliate myself by saying the wrong name, not sure the name of the boy was massively relevant either?

Murray Johnstone maybe? Apologies to all concerned if that’s wrong.

[hibsbollah]

I think it’s the younger keeper that’s overtaken Dabrowski rather than anything to do with the loan signing.

Dabrowski seems like a genuinely great guy but he was never going tk be threatening to take over as number 1 for us. It’s the right move all round and nothing stinks about it IMO.

:agree: And I bet he’s delighted to get closer to regular first team action himself. QOTS are a good established club where he can improve. It’s fine.

[Tully]

My only worry with Johnson is apart from reserve games, where will he get tested at a higher level, before being No 1
He should be out on loan as soon as possible

Mates an airdrie fan says he was outstanding the time he played first team football for them, would have him back in a minute

[Stuart93]

Myko out for another 4-8 weeks.

Wonder if we’re contemplating sending him back. I really like him but it seems as if he’s struggling to shake his injury

[JimBHibees]

Myko out for another 4-8 weeks.

Wonder if we’re contemplating sending him back. I really like him but it seems as if he’s struggling to shake his injury

Ffs was looking good as well. Probably should bring another forward in

[04Sauzee]

Myko out for another 4-8 weeks.

Wonder if we’re contemplating sending him back. I really like him but it seems as if he’s struggling to shake his injury

That sounds worse than the worst case scenario that we were told off last week?

[Tyler Durden]

Disappointed that JDH is staying.

[wookie70]

Not great and may need to think about another striker
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-worst-fears-over-mykola-kukharevych-allayed-but-striker-still-facing-spell-on-sidelines-3985001

[Unseen work]

That sounds worse than the worst case scenario that we were told off last week?

I said as soon as I saw the photo he uploaded on Instagram it looked much worse than suggested

[HFC93]

How many youngsters let go by Hibs in recent years have gone on to prove the club wrong? I can think of a few senior players but not many young players.

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[JimBHibees]

Disappointed that JDH is staying.

I actually like him wonder if he will start in cup game with Newell being out. Think he is better than he sometimes shows

[Paulie Walnuts]

Not great and may need to think about another striker
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-worst-fears-over-mykola-kukharevych-allayed-but-striker-still-facing-spell-on-sidelines-3985001

:rolleyes:

We need another striker if he’s out.

If we can send him back we should do it.

I really hope the medical department is part of the restructure.

[SMAXXA]

:rolleyes:

We need another striker if he’s out.

If we can send him back we should do it.

I really hope the medical department is part of the restructure.

Well we have just lost the 2 Physio’s to Newcastle recently so it pretty much is

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Worrying trend all these injured players we sign 🙄

[SteveHFC]

Worrying trend all these injured players we sign 🙄

What is it with us and injured players.

[CapitalGreen]

Mental how we’re the only team to suffer bad injuries.

[flash]

Mental how we’re the only team to suffer bad injuries.

Aye it's not as if Hertz have got 7 or 8 out just now.

[SMAXXA]

Aye it's not as if Hertz have got 7 or 8 out just now.

Personally couldn’t care who has who out all I care about is who we are missing

[hibsbollah]

Mental how we’re the only team to suffer bad injuries.

if Hearts had seen major injuries to 4 four of their absolute first choice attacking options in the last 6 months like we’ve had, you’d never hear the end of it from the bbc sport sound **** wits. For some reason it never gets an airing as to why we might be getting 15 or 20 shots off a game but rarely scoring goals, which might be why we’re having a disappointing season, :dunno:

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Saw a thing on twitter the other night that Chelsea had scored 20 goals so far this season and haaland had scored 21. Not just us with problems🤣🤣

[04Sauzee]

Motherwell sign 24 year old forward Ollie Crankshaw on loan from Stockport for the remainder of the season.

[SHODAN]

Not great and may need to think about another striker
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-worst-fears-over-mykola-kukharevych-allayed-but-striker-still-facing-spell-on-sidelines-3985001

Expect we will cancel the loan and get someone else in now.

[neil7908]

Expect we will cancel the loan and get someone else in now.

Really disappointing as he was hitting form. Him, Boyle, Nisbet, McGeady and Youan actually sounds like a really exciting set of attacking options.

If only they could all stay fit.

[Unseen work]

Hearts announce Kuol on loan

[Ronniekirk]

That sounds worse than the worst case scenario that we were told off last week?
Yep it is as said worst case back 9 th Feb

[wookie70]

Expect we will cancel the loan and get someone else in now. It's a pity but I think that would be my view too. It is 8 weeks but then he will need to regain fitness to come back in to the team. At that point not enough time left and we will have someone here to take his place anyway. One of the few successes of the transfer window and hopefully the contract allows us to exit

[Iain G]

Worrying trend all these injured players we sign 🙄

I can't believe we missed this injury when he signed in the summer...pathetic!

[chippy]

I can't believe we missed this injury when he signed in the summer...pathetic!
I’d keep him for the later cup run and push for top 6 and Euro spots

[McGruber]

I can't believe we missed this injury when he signed in the summer...pathetic!

What I wonder about this one; is he getting this diagnosis now - so is this brand new? He had been out injured a while beforehand, was that something else? He was in the squad for Tynecastle, listed on the bench. We were told he was back fit - then pulled up in the warm up. Was it because it was missed that his ligament was damaged or a recurrence of the same injury - or unrelated. I might have missed the updates but not clear how he is getting a medial ligament diagnosis now, 2 months after being out injured.

[cameronw-hfc]

What I wonder about this one; is he getting this diagnosis now - so is this brand new? He had been out injured a while beforehand, was that something else? He was in the squad for Tynecastle, listed on the bench. We were told he was back fit - then pulled up in the warm up. Was it because it was missed that his ligament was damaged or a recurrence of the same injury - or unrelated. I might have missed the updates but not clear how he is getting a medial ligament diagnosis now, 2 months after being out injured.


Knee injuries are notoriously difficult. Swelling etc can hide injuries for longer than most would believe. I had multiple scans on my knee, nothing. Turned out I had been playing with a meniscus tear for close to a year and somehow slipped through all scans. They're just an absolute nightmare tbf.

[JammyDoidger]

Another nightmare of a season, the injury's we get are unreal, need to terminate his loan and bring in someone else that can chip in.

[Trinity Hibee]

What I wonder about this one; is he getting this diagnosis now - so is this brand new? He had been out injured a while beforehand, was that something else? He was in the squad for Tynecastle, listed on the bench. We were told he was back fit - then pulled up in the warm up. Was it because it was missed that his ligament was damaged or a recurrence of the same injury - or unrelated. I might have missed the updates but not clear how he is getting a medial ligament diagnosis now, 2 months after being out injured.

Dr Nick is the medical team

[McGruber]

Knee injuries are notoriously difficult. Swelling etc can hide injuries for longer than most would believe. I had multiple scans on my knee, nothing. Turned out I had been playing with a meniscus tear for close to a year and somehow slipped through all scans. They're just an absolute nightmare tbf.

Fair enough mate. Just some info from the club I suppose stops the speculating from non medical ignoramuses like me 😀

[easty]

I actually like him wonder if he will start in cup game with Newell being out. Think he is better than he sometimes shows

I’d rather have Kennah in, JDH never looks like he wants to fight for it.

[Hibees1973]

It's fairy obvious why a fair amount of our new signings get injured.

Loads of them have come from lower level (Melkersen, Miller, Tavares, McKirdy, etc). So to expect them to physically morph overnight and be able to train regularly and play at a higher level is unrealistic. No wonder loads of them get injured or seem to take ages to get a regular run in the 1st team. A few others also have only had a handful of games over the last couple of seasons (Kuharevich, Mitchell) so again these guys will not be able to cope with the physicality of training and playing games regularly.

We don't have the luxury of taking time to get these players up to speed.

These injuries highlight the debacle that has been player recruitment under Ron's son. Little wonder it's going to be taken apart and rebuilt under a new DOF.

Some guys on here are putting it down to bad luck that we have loads of players getting injured. They have been recruited under Ron's son's model which is not fit for purpose.

Know you can be unlucky and get injured (Nisbet).

We need robust, ready made new signings, playing at a comparable level and who have played around 40 games over the previous 2 seasons.

Not the numerous aimless punts.

[Scotty Leither]

It's fairy obvious why a fair amount of our new signings get injured.

Loads of them have come from lower level (Melkersen, Miller, Tavares, McKirdy, etc). So to expect them to physically morph overnight and be able to train regularly and play at a higher level is unrealistic. No wonder loads of them get injured or seem to take ages to get a regular run in the 1st team. A few others also have only had a handful of games over the last couple of seasons (Kuharevich, Mitchell) so again these guys will not be able to cope with the physicality of training and playing games regularly.

We don't have the luxury of taking time to get these players up to speed.

These injuries highlight the debacle that has been player recruitment under Ron's son. Little wonder it's going to be taken apart and rebuilt under a new DOF.

Some guys on here are putting it down to bad luck that we have loads of players getting injured. They have been recruited under Ron's son's model which is not fit for purpose.

Know you can be unlucky and get injured (Nisbet).

We need robust, ready made new signings, playing at a comparable level and who have played around 40 games over the previous 2 seasons.

Not the numerous aimless punts.

I hope we get through this week’s game with Dundee United with no further injuries.

The lack of depth in this squad is disgraceful, and now the two guys are recalled from FC Edinburgh in the third division, where they’ve made zero impact…just who have we recruited from these much vaunted “link ups” with other clubs that can be called a success?

[JimBHibees]

I’d rather have Kennah in, JDH never looks like he wants to fight for it.

Much better on the ball though

[hibee1875]

Hearts announce Kuol on loan

Who?

[CapitalGreen]

It's fairy obvious why a fair amount of our new signings get injured.

Loads of them have come from lower level (Melkersen, Miller, Tavares, McKirdy, etc). So to expect them to physically morph overnight and be able to train regularly and play at a higher level is unrealistic. No wonder loads of them get injured or seem to take ages to get a regular run in the 1st team. A few others also have only had a handful of games over the last couple of seasons (Kuharevich, Mitchell) so again these guys will not be able to cope with the physicality of training and playing games regularly.

We don't have the luxury of taking time to get these players up to speed.

These injuries highlight the debacle that has been player recruitment under Ron's son. Little wonder it's going to be taken apart and rebuilt under a new DOF.

Some guys on here are putting it down to bad luck that we have loads of players getting injured. They have been recruited under Ron's son's model which is not fit for purpose.

Know you can be unlucky and get injured (Nisbet).

We need robust, ready made new signings, playing at a comparable level and who have played around 40 games over the previous 2 seasons.

Not the numerous aimless punts.

What absolute nonsense. Our worst injuries in 2022 have been to Nisbet, Magennis, McGeady and Boyle. If it had been the likes of Tavares and McKirdy missing for months we wouldn’t be struggling like we have been.

[easty]

Much better on the ball though

Aye, miles better, in this derby I’d rather have fight than finesse.

[HoboHarry]

It's fairy obvious why a fair amount of our new signings get injured.

Loads of them have come from lower level (Melkersen, Miller, Tavares, McKirdy, etc). So to expect them to physically morph overnight and be able to train regularly and play at a higher level is unrealistic. No wonder loads of them get injured or seem to take ages to get a regular run in the 1st team. A few others also have only had a handful of games over the last couple of seasons (Kuharevich, Mitchell) so again these guys will not be able to cope with the physicality of training and playing games regularly.

We don't have the luxury of taking time to get these players up to speed.

These injuries highlight the debacle that has been player recruitment under Ron's son. Little wonder it's going to be taken apart and rebuilt under a new DOF.

Some guys on here are putting it down to bad luck that we have loads of players getting injured. They have been recruited under Ron's son's model which is not fit for purpose.

Know you can be unlucky and get injured (Nisbet).

We need robust, ready made new signings, playing at a comparable level and who have played around 40 games over the previous 2 seasons.

Not the numerous aimless punts.
What a forehead slap of a post that is. :faf::faf:

[flash]

What a forehead slap of a post that is. :faf::faf:

Fairly average drivel from that particular source.

[Bridge hibs]

What a forehead slap of a post that is. :faf::faf:Come on man its radge logic, SPL or higher level football league players dont get injured. No point in bringing through any of our young players either then 🤣

[cameronw-hfc]

It's fairy obvious why a fair amount of our new signings get injured.

Loads of them have come from lower level (Melkersen, Miller, Tavares, McKirdy, etc). So to expect them to physically morph overnight and be able to train regularly and play at a higher level is unrealistic. No wonder loads of them get injured or seem to take ages to get a regular run in the 1st team. A few others also have only had a handful of games over the last couple of seasons (Kuharevich, Mitchell) so again these guys will not be able to cope with the physicality of training and playing games regularly.

We don't have the luxury of taking time to get these players up to speed.

These injuries highlight the debacle that has been player recruitment under Ron's son. Little wonder it's going to be taken apart and rebuilt under a new DOF.

Some guys on here are putting it down to bad luck that we have loads of players getting injured. They have been recruited under Ron's son's model which is not fit for purpose.

Know you can be unlucky and get injured (Nisbet).

We need robust, ready made new signings, playing at a comparable level and who have played around 40 games over the previous 2 seasons.

Not the numerous aimless punts.


This is a contender for worst post of the year so far on here, and I've had a few shockers myself this year😂

[bingo70]

https://twitter.com/australiafut/status/1613596788505694208?s=46&t=9Bfegu-331gkGkwIUWAStw

Seems a bit of a random twitter account but it’s got a decent number of followers. Anyway, they’re saying we’ve made contact with Jake Brimmer, although that may be referring to the last window when it fell through due to his dad being unwell.

[04Sauzee]

https://twitter.com/australiafut/status/1613596788505694208?s=46&t=9Bfegu-331gkGkwIUWAStw

Seems a bit of a random twitter account but it’s got a decent number of followers. Anyway, they’re saying we’ve made contact with Jake Brimmer, although that may be referring to the last window when it fell through due to his dad being unwell.

Yeah looks like they have cleared that up in another tweet that they were referring to the summer.

[J-C]

https://twitter.com/australiafut/status/1613596788505694208?s=46&t=9Bfegu-331gkGkwIUWAStw

Seems a bit of a random twitter account but it’s got a decent number of followers. Anyway, they’re saying we’ve made contact with Jake Brimmer, although that may be referring to the last window when it fell through due to his dad being unwell.


Is this the lad we were linked with before?

[JimBHibees]

It's fairy obvious why a fair amount of our new signings get injured.

Loads of them have come from lower level (Melkersen, Miller, Tavares, McKirdy, etc). So to expect them to physically morph overnight and be able to train regularly and play at a higher level is unrealistic. No wonder loads of them get injured or seem to take ages to get a regular run in the 1st team. A few others also have only had a handful of games over the last couple of seasons (Kuharevich, Mitchell) so again these guys will not be able to cope with the physicality of training and playing games regularly.

We don't have the luxury of taking time to get these players up to speed.

These injuries highlight the debacle that has been player recruitment under Ron's son. Little wonder it's going to be taken apart and rebuilt under a new DOF.

Some guys on here are putting it down to bad luck that we have loads of players getting injured. They have been recruited under Ron's son's model which is not fit for purpose.

Know you can be unlucky and get injured (Nisbet).

We need robust, ready made new signings, playing at a comparable level and who have played around 40 games over the previous 2 seasons.

Not the numerous aimless punts.

Pretty much nonsense

[Donegal Hibby]

Is this the lad we were linked with before?
Yes same lad , I mentioned him a good while ago as I was wondering would we renew our interest in him

[chookyembra]

It's fairy obvious why a fair amount of our new signings get injured.

Loads of them have come from lower level (Melkersen, Miller, Tavares, McKirdy, etc). So to expect them to physically morph overnight and be able to train regularly and play at a higher level is unrealistic. No wonder loads of them get injured or seem to take ages to get a regular run in the 1st team. A few others also have only had a handful of games over the last couple of seasons (Kuharevich, Mitchell) so again these guys will not be able to cope with the physicality of training and playing games regularly.

We don't have the luxury of taking time to get these players up to speed.

These injuries highlight the debacle that has been player recruitment under Ron's son. Little wonder it's going to be taken apart and rebuilt under a new DOF.

Some guys on here are putting it down to bad luck that we have loads of players getting injured. They have been recruited under Ron's son's model which is not fit for purpose.

Know you can be unlucky and get injured (Nisbet).

We need robust, ready made new signings, playing at a comparable level and who have played around 40 games over the previous 2 seasons.

Not the numerous aimless punts.

Not sure why you’re getting stick for this post, it makes a lot of sense. There’s no doubting our league is physically demanding.

[flash]

Not sure why you’re getting stick for this post, it makes a lot of sense. There’s no doubting our league is physically demanding.

It's getting stick because the vast majority of our worst injuries have been to established first team players.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not sure why you’re getting stick for this post, it makes a lot of sense. There’s no doubting our league is physically demanding.

More so than league 2 where they have 3 cup competitions and an extra 8 league games? Naw.

[04Sauzee]

LJ expects Porteous to still be at the club for the Hearts cup game.

[CapitalGreen]

Yes same lad , I mentioned him a good while ago as I was wondering would we renew our interest in him

He stayed in Australia because his dad has MND, so unless anything has changed there I can’t see him coming.

[hibee-boys]

LJ expects Porteous to still be at the club for the Hearts cup game.

Victory over them would be one hell of a send off!

[brog]

What absolute nonsense. Our worst injuries in 2022 have been to Nisbet, Magennis, McGeady and Boyle. If it had been the likes of Tavares and McKirdy missing for months we wouldn’t be struggling like we have been.

Saved me posting, Thanks!

[Since452]

Myko out for another 4-8 weeks.

Wonder if we’re contemplating sending him back. I really like him but it seems as if he’s struggling to shake his injury

We'd be as well terminating the loan. Different if he was our player, we could nurse him back and take our time. No point having a loan player out injured that long and then even longer getting him match fit. It'll almost be the end of the season by then. Get another player in on loan.

[flash]

We'd be as well terminating the loan. Different if he was our player, we could nurse him back and take our time. No point having a loan player out injured that long and then even longer getting him match fit. It'll almost be the end of the season by then. Get another player in on loan.

The problem there might be, and this is pure speculation on my part, we loaned him from the City Group who I would guess we have a relationship with.
If we tried to ditch him rather than getting him fit again that relationship might be affected.
Purely my opinion and probably miles off the truth.

[Trinity Hibee]

LJ expects Porteous to still be at the club for the Hearts cup game.

Where has he said this out of interest?

[bingo70]

Where has he said this out of interest?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10053541/porteous-hibs-transfer-timeline-lee-johnson-hearts/

[Jones28]

It's fairy obvious why a fair amount of our new signings get injured.

Loads of them have come from lower level (Melkersen, Miller, Tavares, McKirdy, etc). So to expect them to physically morph overnight and be able to train regularly and play at a higher level is unrealistic. No wonder loads of them get injured or seem to take ages to get a regular run in the 1st team. A few others also have only had a handful of games over the last couple of seasons (Kuharevich, Mitchell) so again these guys will not be able to cope with the physicality of training and playing games regularly.

We don't have the luxury of taking time to get these players up to speed.

These injuries highlight the debacle that has been player recruitment under Ron's son. Little wonder it's going to be taken apart and rebuilt under a new DOF.

Some guys on here are putting it down to bad luck that we have loads of players getting injured. They have been recruited under Ron's son's model which is not fit for purpose.

Know you can be unlucky and get injured (Nisbet).

We need robust, ready made new signings, playing at a comparable level and who have played around 40 games over the previous 2 seasons.

Not the numerous aimless punts.

Your desperation to have a pop at the club from any angle is getting quite laughable.

[May21/05/216]

Your desperation to have a pop at the club from any angle is getting quite laughable.Agree

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[OldEast]

Your desperation to have a pop at the club from any angle is getting quite laughable.

Many playing at a lower level will need to train harder to get the fitness levels required.
Those not having played much, likewise.
Would it be better if we sign players ready to seamlessly slot into the first team, yes.

The post was on point. What's laughable on this site is people waiting to pounce on what they deem to be negative.

[Billy Whizz]

Great that Ryan is likely to be available for the Hearts game
Could be a fantastic farewell for him

[OldEast]

Great that Ryan is likely to be available for the Hearts game
Could be a fantastic farewell for him

Hope he does play, signs off with a goal and gets the accolade from the crowd he deserves.
Maybe sub him off with a minute to go to ensure that.

[Jones28]

Many playing at a lower level will need to train harder to get the fitness levels required.
Those not having played much, likewise.
Would it be better if we sign players ready to seamlessly slot into the first team, yes.

The post was on point. What's laughable on this site is people waiting to pounce on what they deem to be negative.


The post was not on point. Injuries have happened to some of our longer term players - key ones at that: Maggenis, Boyle, Nisbet have all been long term injured. Injuries to other players have been relatively short term compared to these guys.

Melkersen was concussed FFS, how does that work out where fitness is concerned?

MK is part of the city group, one of the most organised and monied football machines on the planet, how does his injury stack up with the signing policy?

We need first team ready players, of course we do, any fool could see that and it's been a mistake that club are all but acknowledging by bringing in a DOF.

The poster in question is trying to equate signing poorly with injury problems when that just isn't the case.

[I'm Spartacus]

Hearts announce Kuol on loan


Who?

Hearts, they are a trampy pub team on the other side of town.

[bigwheel]

Hearts, they are a trampy pub team on the other side of town.

[emoji1787]

[SON OF PADDY]

Hearts, they are a trampy pub team on the other side of town.



Thanks for clearing that up! 😁

[matty_f]

The post was not on point. Injuries have happened to some of our longer term players - key ones at that: Boyle, Nisbet have all been long term injured. Injuries to other players have been relatively short term compared to these guys.

Melkersen was concussed FFS, how does that work out where fitness is concerned?

MK is part of the city group, one of the most organised and monied football machines on the planet, how does his injury stack up with the signing policy?

We need first team ready players, of course we do, any fool could see that and it's been a mistake that club are all but acknowledging by bringing in a DOF.

The poster in question is trying to equate signing poorly with injury problems when that just isn't the case.
This post is on point. :agree:

[Dalianwanda]

It's fairy obvious why a fair amount of our new signings get injured.

Loads of them have come from lower level (Melkersen, Miller, Tavares, McKirdy, etc). So to expect them to physically morph overnight and be able to train regularly and play at a higher level is unrealistic. No wonder loads of them get injured or seem to take ages to get a regular run in the 1st team. A few others also have only had a handful of games over the last couple of seasons (Kuharevich, Mitchell) so again these guys will not be able to cope with the physicality of training and playing games regularly.

We don't have the luxury of taking time to get these players up to speed.

These injuries highlight the debacle that has been player recruitment under Ron's son. Little wonder it's going to be taken apart and rebuilt under a new DOF.

Some guys on here are putting it down to bad luck that we have loads of players getting injured. They have been recruited under Ron's son's model which is not fit for purpose.

Know you can be unlucky and get injured (Nisbet).

We need robust, ready made new signings, playing at a comparable level and who have played around 40 games over the previous 2 seasons.

Not the numerous aimless punts.

Absolute nonsense..

[Hannah_hfc]

Kenneh joins Ross county on loan for rest of season. This one seems a bit out of the blue


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[Heisenberg]

Kenneh joins Ross county on loan for rest of season. This one seems a bit out of the blue


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I’m not surprised he’s away to be honest. The manager clearly doesn’t trust him to do the job he’s looking for him to do in midfield.

[CL0762]

Went from starting every week, being lauded by Hibs as one of the best DM’s in the league with their own stats analysis put out on Twitter - to getting loaned to Ross county.

Strange

[Unseen work]

Very surprised about Kenneh.

Started off really well and I think defensively he is solid.

On the ball he needs to improve which may be the reason for the loan, you’d also imagine he’ll play every week.

You’d imagine we’ll be bringing in a ball playing defensive type midfielder with the defensive ability too like Porteous offered in bits. Hard to find but you imagine they’ll be confident given we’ve allowed him to go now?

James McArthur?

[Brightside]

Kenneh joins Ross county on loan for rest of season. This one seems a bit out of the blue


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Shambles. Let’s not bother with DMs eh. Yet there will be more threads on here slagging our defence after the weekend. Strategy is a mess.

[easty]

Kennah out is very strange. There must be someone coming in

Hopefully regular football up there improves him, and he’s in a better position to play here next season

[Real Emerald]

Very surprised about Kenneh.

Started off really well and I think defensively he is solid.

On the ball he needs to improve which may be the reason for the loan, you’d also imagine he’ll play every week.

You’d imagine we’ll be bringing in a ball playing defensive type midfielder with the defensive ability too like Porteous offered in bits. Hard to find but you imagine they’ll be confident given we’ve allowed him to go now?

James McArthur?

McArthur is the type of player we need, proven quality. I’m still not convinced we’re actively looking but desperately hope I’m wrong.

[Brightside]

So JDH. Newell. Campbell. What a great window.

[Blaster]

So JDH. Newell. Campbell. What a great window.

Didn’t realise the window was closed?

[flash]

Shambles. Let’s not bother with DMs eh. Yet there will be more threads on here slagging our defence after the weekend. Strategy is a mess.

Right now he is nowhere near good enough.

A run of games up there will let us see if he might become good enough.

[bigwheel]

Very surprised about Kenneh.

Started off really well and I think defensively he is solid.

On the ball he needs to improve which may be the reason for the loan, you’d also imagine he’ll play every week.

You’d imagine we’ll be bringing in a ball playing defensive type midfielder with the defensive ability too like Porteous offered in bits. Hard to find but you imagine they’ll be confident given we’ve allowed him to go now?

James McArthur?

I understand that , but he’s not getting much game time, so if they foresee that continuing , getting him to develop via a loan would be a sensible move . Could bite us though if we don’t bring more quality in .

[Jones28]

Jeez, wasn't expecting that. Feel for the lad a bit, dropped after a poor game and scarcely seen since.

[Brightside]

I he keeps Henderson and lets go of Kenneh an intervention is required as he is clearly not of sound mind.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’m fine with that although it leaves us needing a midfielder desperately.

At this point in time I don’t think Kenneh is good enough for us.

[ChilliEater]

Right now I think Kenneh, Melkerson and Tavares are the ones who've suffered most from the lack of Dev team games. Not quite ready to nail down a 1st team starting spot, but not getting any other game time. I was kind of hoping all three might go on loan to QoS with Marv and play every week. Surprised Kenneh's loan is to a potential relegation rival though.

[CapitalGreen]

So JDH. Newell. Campbell. What a great window.

We’ve not won a game in which those 3 players have all started in 13 months.

[Blaster]

I he keeps Henderson and lets go of Kenneh an intervention is required as he is clearly not of sound mind.

Hopefully Henderson is next but obviously depends if anyone wants him

[Paulie Walnuts]

So JDH. Newell. Campbell. What a great window.

Magennis as well (although I realise he’s not the most reliable.

[easty]

Right now I think Kenneh, Melkerson and Tavares are the ones who've suffered most from the lack of Dev team games. Not quite ready to nail down a 1st team starting spot, but not getting any other game time. I was kind of hoping all three might go on loan to QoS with Marv and play every week. Surprised Kenneh's loan is to a potential relegation rival though.

We’re not a relegation rival of Ross County.

3 points off 4th, 10 points ahead of Ross County in 12th

[Unseen work]

Think Kenneh shows were being pretty ruthless too.

Fully expect Tavares and Melkersen to go out on loan.

Hauge, Mitchell and another couple to go permanently I think

[Gatecrasher]

The money wasted by this club must be unreal :rolleyes:

[Brightside]

Right now he is nowhere near good enough.

A run of games up there will let us see if he might become good enough.

He does the basics well. We don’t have anyone else in the squad that does that. Interceptions / Tackles. His stats for the defensive side are much better than anyone we have BUT LJ doesn’t care about defending.

[blackpoolhibs]

Lets be honest here, Kenneh is a very poor footballer with the ball at his feet, but does well at winning the ball, quite a lot of the time after he's just lost it.

He needs to play regularly as he's still very young, and hopefully he gets that game time and improves well enough to come back a better player.

[easty]

Think Kenneh shows were being pretty ruthless too.

Fully expect Tavares and Melkersen to go out on loan.

Hauge, Mitchell and another couple to go permanently I think

I’d keep Melkerson here, unless we’re bringing in a striker.

Taveres should definitely go out on loan, but I cannae see a lot of teams wanting to take him.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’d keep Melkerson here, unless we’re bringing in a striker.

Taveres should definitely go out on loan, but I cannae see a lot of teams wanting to take him.

Not sure about that, I could see a few teams taking a punt on him. Funnily enough, I would have said someone like a Ross County.

We should see if Queens Park want him, they seem to be scoring goals for fun so he could do well there.

[hibsforeurope]

It's all well putting these players out on loan but it's not really reducing the wage bill. it's very unlikely teams like County or QOTS are paying anywhere near their full wage.

[GreenGray]

Surprised at that, whilst he was no where near the finished article he was pretty solid.

Surely we need to bring a DM in now?


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[Jones28]

I he keeps Henderson and lets go of Kenneh an intervention is required as he is clearly not of sound mind.

Or nobody wants Henderson? Anyone of sound mind who watched Henderson on Sunday would struggle to justify bringing him in.

[ChilliEater]

We’re not a relegation rival of Ross County.

3 points off 4th, 10 points ahead of Ross County in 12th

I really hope you're right. I do think we should stay up - I actually think we should be at least 4th - because when we do win, we win well. Other struggling sides we've had didn't seem to do that. LJ's comments after the derby, along with similar, but less extreme variations on the same theme, just remind me too much of Butcher and strike me as really poor management.

[Heisenberg]

It's all well putting these players out on loan but it's not really reducing the wage bill. it's very unlikely teams like County or QOTS are paying anywhere near their full wage.

I think County will be paying a decent bit of his wage. Their owner is known for chucking money at the squad in January if they are looking like they are in trouble.

[CockneyRebel]

Very surprised about Kenneh.

Started off really well and I think defensively he is solid.

On the ball he needs to improve which may be the reason for the loan, you’d also imagine he’ll play every week.

You’d imagine we’ll be bringing in a ball playing defensive type midfielder with the defensive ability too like Porteous offered in bits. Hard to find but you imagine they’ll be confident given we’ve allowed him to go now?

James McArthur?

As an Eagle, I have to say a fit McArthur would be brilliant but not affordable. As it is he can't get in/stay in the Palace team through niggling injuries and he has difficulty shaking these injuries off due to advancing (football wise) years. He has been a terrific servant for Palace but it has been his movement and ball winning ability that made him so valuable and, regretfully, both are now fading. If not for these nuisance injuries he would probably do a fair job for a season or two and pass on some valuable experience to younger players. Playing for a few games then off for a few months wouldn't do Hibs any favours (we've had our fair share of those in recent seasons).

[Unseen work]

Hopefully Henderson is next but obviously depends if anyone wants him

Really hope so.

I don’t know if it’s confidence or what as at the star of the season he looked good - albeit against lower opposition

I don’t think he’ll be the type that just wants to sit on a bench so hopefully wants fro start.

Wouldn’t surprise me if a league 2 in England type of team came in for him

[chippy]

Lets be honest here, Kenneh is a very poor footballer with the ball at his feet, but does well at winning the ball, quite a lot of the time after he's just lost it.

He needs to play regularly as he's still very young, and hopefully he gets that game time and improves well enough to come back a better player.
Probably best if the lad converts to a Centre Half

[B.H.F.C]

Surely a midfielder must be coming in soon.

[brog]

Lets be honest here, Kenneh is a very poor footballer with the ball at his feet, but does well at winning the ball, quite a lot of the time after he's just lost it.

He needs to play regularly as he's still very young, and hopefully he gets that game time and improves well enough to come back a better player.

Good summary. I posted early on that his positioning when we have the ball was very poor. He would often be behind an oppo player and in no position to receive the ball, it actually looked like he was hiding and apprehensive to be on the ball. Conversely he enjoys tackling and harrassing the opposition . As you say, hopefully he improves his confidence and ball retention and comes back a better player.

[hibsbollah]

Surely a midfielder must be coming in soon.

I’m still banging the Barry Bannan boran:hyper

[CockneyRebel]

McArthur is the type of player we need, proven quality. I’m still not convinced we’re actively looking but desperately hope I’m wrong.


McArthur was the type of player we need - not now. He will probably go on a free at the end of this season as he is on a good wage but on yearly contracts due to advancing years and poor injury record over the past few seasons).

[Nutmegged]

I really hope you're right. I do think we should stay up - I actually think we should be at least 4th - because when we do win, we win well. Other struggling sides we've had didn't seem to do that. LJ's comments after the derby, along with similar, but less extreme variations on the same theme, just remind me too much of Butcher and strike me as really poor management.

I'm not sure about 'should' be fourth, we're not better than Aberdeen IMO, they look stronger in every area outwith CB

[EGL2000]

Do find it slightly strange that it's county. I feel like his biggest weakness is on the ball so would have been much better for his development if he had went to a team that has more possession, therefore developing his ability on the ball. Yes, he will get alot of defensive work but already felt he was fairly solid in this area. Frees up some wages at the end of the day, assuming they are paying at least a decent percentage anyway.

[HIBS NUTS]

He’s a young lad, who’s not played a lot of competitive football, he will come back to us, with more experience, and county will pay some of his wages.
He probably won’t play against us, so overall, this might be good for club, and player.

[Trinity Hibee]

He’s a young lad, who’s not played a lot of competitive football, he will come back to us, with more experience, and county will pay some of his wages.
He probably won’t play against us, so overall, this might be good for club, and player.

Agree. In Kenneh’s case hopefully it’s for the better and he comes back improved. Think there is a player in there who can do a job for us.

[Allant1981]

Kenneh should never have been hyped up the way he was by some on here or put straight into the team as early when it's clear as day he isn't ready or good enough to improve us, hopefully it means we are getting someone decent in to replace him

[superfurryhibby]

Surely a midfielder must be coming in soon.

JDH returning from injury ?

[Chorley Hibee]

The money wasted by this club must be unreal :rolleyes:

Eye watering I'd imagine (for our level) and likely hampering us in our ability to recruit now.

Still have little faith those responsible for this shambles have any idea what they're doing.

[CapitalGreen]

Kenneh should never have been hyped up the way he was by some on here or put straight into the team as early when it's clear as day he isn't ready or good enough to improve us, hopefully it means we are getting someone decent in to replace him

I think you put too much stock in the influence of people posting on a Hibs message board.

[Rumble de Thump]

I would be inclined to play Stevenson as the defensive midfielder if we have another decent left back available.

[easty]

I'm not sure about 'should' be fourth, we're not better than Aberdeen IMO, they look stronger in every area outwith CB

I think we’ve got better forward players than them, when available.

I’d take Boyle, Nisbet, McGeady over any combination they have.

We’ve a better keeper tae.

[500miles]

Kenneh started the league cup games really poorly, came on leaps and bounds in the league, had a shocker against a really good Celtic team where the manager totally made a mess of the team selection and left him exposed. I hope he does well and comes back a more complete player with a Hibs manager that will get more out of him. He's got something.

Unfortunately a few of our recent signings have "something", I have no faith in LJ to tap into it.

[Unseen work]

Just having a look at centre mids out there that we might go for now Kenneh is away.

Josh Scowen - 29 years old - Wycombe

Played for Johnson at Sunderland and Barnsley

Out of contract in the summer.

[The Modfather]

Hope it’s not another January window where we somehow manage to make our already dire midfield weaker. Gogic & Hallberg out last January with Henderson in.

[mcfly]

These players getting moved on after a few months totally shows what a shambles our recruitment has been.

We have a crucial Scottish cup tie against our biggest rivals next week and we have signed no one to improve our team.

No wonder ticket sales for the home end are so low.

we are spending all our time trying to offload players we have just signed rather than improve our first 11.

Dreadful state of affairs and someone has to take ownership
What a waste of season ticket money

[Stuart93]

We absolutely can’t emerge from this window with JDH Campbell and newell being our midfield

[I'm Spartacus]

I’m fine with that although it leaves us needing a midfielder desperately.

At this point in time I don’t think Kenneh is good enough for us.

I'll guess Brimmer is being announced asap. Jesus, Walkabout in Omni is going to be rammed at this rate.

[Smartie]

These players getting moved on after a few months totally shows what a shambles our recruitment has been.

We have a crucial Scottish cup tie against our biggest rivals next week and we have signed no one to improve our team.

No wonder ticket sales for the home end are so low.

we are spending all our time trying to offload players we have just signed rather than improve our first 11.

Dreadful state of affairs and someone has to take ownership
What a waste of season ticket money

I can’t decide whether to be raging about the waste of season ticket money (which it clearly is) or happy that Hibs are taking pretty decisive, ruthless action to correct a situation.

Makes me think of sunken cost fallacy tbh ie if it’s not working we fix it rather than keeping chipping away trying to make something work that’s not going to, just because we pumped money into it.

Fwiw I like / liked Kenneh and could see him being a big player for us. He needs to be playing though and I don’t know how great a learning environment our first team (or our bench) is right now.

You’d have to expect him to be on a decent wage, therefore his departure (even just on loan) should free up more of a wage than the other squad players who have been released so far.

Maybe Johnson thinks that Delferriere or Aiken are as close / closer to being Hibs first team ready?

[weecounty hibby]

We absolutely can’t emerge from this window with JDH Campbell and newell being our midfield

Have we dropped Magennis?

[GreenPJ]

I would be inclined to play Stevenson as the defensive midfielder if we have another decent left back available.

I think its a great opportunity to start to give McIntyre some game time and even start to have Aitken or another of the youngsters on the bench and start to give them 10-15 mins a game to see if they can cut it.

[Stuart93]

Have we dropped Magennis?

Well I obviously have, in my brain

[Trinity Hibee]

https://twitter.com/jack187571/status/1613855249202036738?s=46&t=Yl-pTZ9t0_4lYV4-KUoQ-w

Might be some news coming

[Callum_62]

Conor Ronan coming in?

He's not a def mid either

Guess newell/JDH/random centre half can fill that role [emoji23]

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[weecounty hibby]

Well I obviously have, in my brain

I think that Newell, Campbell, Magennis and McGeady is a pretty good midfield.

[04Sauzee]

https://twitter.com/jack187571/status/1613855249202036738?s=46&t=Yl-pTZ9t0_4lYV4-KUoQ-w

Might be some news coming

Even loan signings are normally announced wearing Hibs gear ? Think someone is at it tbh

[Trinity Hibee]

Even loan signings are normally announced wearing Hibs gear ? Think someone is at it tbh

He’s maybe not been here yet or is due up today. Agree though, need to see the scarf above the head to confirm.

[Alex Trager]

Even loan signings are normally announced wearing Hibs gear ? Think someone is at it tbh

Would be a lot of effort to wind fellow hibbys up

[Oscar T Grouch]

I am not surprised about Kenneh. I think the recruitment team thought he was ready for the step up from U23s to this league but he clearly wasn't. I think him getting game time in Dingwall will be great for him and good for Hibs as we will not have to suffer his mistakes (which all young players will make). He has shown in glimpses there is definitely a good quality player in there and we will benefit next season the from experience he will gain at Ross County, it is so much better than him sitting on our bench every week. I should mean we will be bringing in a No6 into the squad at least you would hope we are looking to do that.

[Unseen work]

Would Ronan be a LJ signing or a recruitment team signing 😅

[ElginHibbie]

Would Ronan be a LJ signing or a recruitment team signing 😅

Wait and see how he performs first...

[OldEast]

Not sure why you’re getting stick for this post, it makes a lot of sense. There’s no doubting our league is physically demanding.

Maybe because people read what they think is written, not what is actually written. Then when one poster calls it rubbish many of the more timid ones feel enabled to jump in. Been involved with so many forums over the years. You see it all the time.

[Stuart93]

I think that Newell, Campbell, Magennis and McGeady is a pretty good midfield.

Aye but there’s zero depth though if any of them get injured.

What’s the back up? JDH or Henderson?

[Hibby70]

Wait and see how he performs first...

Wait and see if he actually signs first

[Greenworld]

I can’t decide whether to be raging about the waste of season ticket money (which it clearly is) or happy that Hibs are taking pretty decisive, ruthless action to correct a situation.

Makes me think of sunken cost fallacy tbh ie if it’s not working we fix it rather than keeping chipping away trying to make something work that’s not going to, just because we pumped money into it.

Fwiw I like / liked Kenneh and could see him being a big player for us. He needs to be playing though and I don’t know how great a learning environment our first team (or our bench) is right now.

You’d have to expect him to be on a decent wage, therefore his departure (even just on loan) should free up more of a wage than the other squad players who have been released so far.

Maybe Johnson thinks that Delferriere or Aiken are as close / closer to being Hibs first team ready?You've got to give credit to the club they said or LJ said he needed to move out a substantial number of players .That process is in full flow and you would imagine a few more will go.
If we bring in 2 quality players who are ready to play for the 6 or 8 out I'll be delighted.
Henderson must be next to go alongside a few others.
For once I'm actually quite excited that we are finally clearing the decks and moving forward


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[Stuart93]

The web page is a fake.

But we could do a lot worse than sign him

[weecounty hibby]

Aye but there’s zero depth though if any of them get injured.

What’s the back up? JDH or Henderson?
That's a different argument though. So if we brought in Ronan (I know the tweet is BS) then probably Campbell drops to the bench. Stronger midfield and stronger bench. All I was saying is that those 4 are a pretty decent midfield.

[WhileTheChief..]

Doubt we'll see Kennah play for Hibs again.

2 out of the 10 away? Next!

[1875Sean]

Doubt we'll see Kennah play for Hibs again.

2 out of the 10 away? Next!

More than 2 so far if you are including the development guys

[I'm Spartacus]

Doubt we'll see Kennah play for Hibs again.

2 out of the 10 away? Next!

"10 green players, sittin' on a waw, 10 green players, sittin' on a waa"

[Donegal Hibby]

Doubt we'll see Kennah play for Hibs again.

2 out of the 10 away? Next!
Not trying to be controversial here but I actually quite liked him and thought there was the makings of a good player there ,do not forget the guys only 19 year old maybe he will come back a better player to us after gaining some first team experience !

[WhileTheChief..]

More than 2 so far if you are including the development guys

I get too confused trying to understand the whole development / u19 thing so tend just to ignore it!! I guess there's loads of players there though.

When LJ spoke about 10 out I thought he meant from the first team squad. I hoped so anyways.

I've been pretty negative about all things Hibs recently but letting these 2 go is a great start. If we get rid of another 4 or 5 this month I'll maybe start to believe that LJ has something about him.

When he tells me that players like Kennah, Bojangles, Henderson etc are quality players, I want him sacked!

[Iain G]

Would Ronan be a LJ signing or a recruitment team signing 😅

Could be a rollercoaster!

[Jones28]

Not trying to be controversial here but I actually quite liked him and thought there was the makings of a good player there ,do not forget the guys only 19 year old maybe he will come back a better player to us after gaining some first team experience !


No no no, that will not do. He must be written off and forgotten about. :rules:

[Unseen work]

Could be a rollercoaster!

Aw please not this again.

Sometimes its best, when you say nothing at all..

[Logie]

Could be a rollercoaster!

We would just have to ride it.. all night long!

[04Sauzee]

Love all these twitter accounts 5 followers 😀

https://twitter.com/MelechOsher/status/1613701607329349632?t=B6kL5bOGa1ZMd8PRriMAOQ&s=19

[Real Emerald]

Very surprised about Kenneh.

Started off really well and I think defensively he is solid.

On the ball he needs to improve which may be the reason for the loan, you’d also imagine he’ll play every week.

You’d imagine we’ll be bringing in a ball playing defensive type midfielder with the defensive ability too like Porteous offered in bits. Hard to find but you imagine they’ll be confident given we’ve allowed him to go now?

James McArthur?

McArthur is the type of player we need, proven quality. I’m still not convinced we’re actively looking but desperately hope I’m wrong.

[Logie]

https://twitter.com/melechosher/status/1613701607329349632?s=46&t=D8_ClMXDS1KX3LPJZ3f4Cg

Zambian RB linked, don’t know how reliable the poster is.

[Vault Boy]

https://twitter.com/melechosher/status/1613701607329349632?s=46&t=D8_ClMXDS1KX3LPJZ3f4Cg

Zambian RB linked, don’t know how reliable the poster is.

5 followers, account created this month.

[WhileTheChief..]

No no no, that will not do. He must be written off and forgotten about. :rules:

It's what we've just done!

You think he'll be back to us in the summer and starting our league opener??

He'll be out of Scotland, and yes, completely forgotten about by then. Bookmark this!!

[Brightside]

Not trying to be controversial here but I actually quite liked him and thought there was the makings of a good player there ,do not forget the guys only 19 year old maybe he will come back a better player to us after gaining some first team experience !

Its not controversial. He's the only DM we have. If we aren't bringing in someone in that area now we are goosed.

[Logie]

5 followers, account created this month.

Fair I never looked at that! That desperate for some rumours 🤣

[brog]

Doubt we'll see Kennah play for Hibs again.

2 out of the 10 away? Next!

He's got a 4 year contract. If he does well at RC he'll be back. If he doesn't do well he won't be in demand but he wont walk away from his contract. I think he'll be back one way or another.

[GreenPJ]

Doubt we'll see Kennah play for Hibs again.

2 out of the 10 away? Next!

I think we will. With regular game time he will be an English Championship player in 2/2.5 years

[Hibernian Verse]

5 followers, account created this month.

No posts about Scottish football though from what I can see.

5 ft 6 midfielder, 4 goals in 16 for Red Star this year looks good to me.

[Donegal Hibby]

It's what we've just done!

You think he'll be back to us in the summer and starting our league opener??

He'll be out of Scotland, and yes, completely forgotten about by then. Bookmark this!!
He might , why not ? Guys only 19 year old and has looked good in games he's played for us . The loan to Ross county will probably be very beneficial to his development . Let's give the young man a chance before dismissing he has any chance of a career at us.

[WhileTheChief..]

He's got a 4 year contract. If he does well at RC he'll be back. If he doesn't do well he won't be in demand but he wont walk away from his contract. I think he'll be back one way or another.

Grim, I didn't realise the length of contact he got.

I hope we're setting our sights a bit higher next season.

Do we really think that a dozen or so games under Malky Mackay is going to change him into a first team regular who can influence games enough to see us challenging for third?? That would be quite some improvement in the lad.

I'd rather we go out and sign a couple of quality players in the summer rather than hoping for some of our younger players to come good.

Have we learnt nothing from the last 2 years?

[Callum_62]

Grim, I didn't realise the length of contact he got.

I hope we're setting our sights a bit higher next season.

Do we really think that a dozen or so games under Malky Mackay is going to change him into a first team regular who can influence games enough to see us challenging for third?? That would be quite some improvement in the lad.

I'd rather we go out and sign a couple of quality players in the summer rather than hoping for some of our younger players to come good.

Have we learnt nothing from the last 2 years?Younger players don't develop?

Seems an odd stance to me

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[Unseen work]

Kings Kangwa is the best player I’ve ever seen going by this https://youtu.be/akE5FZyKlAg

Looks more of a Johnson type of signing based on his style.

Although the Twitter account seems made up due to followers it’s been posting a lot lately and what a random random rumour to come up with.

Guy has a high market value and length of contract too.

Can’t see it being true but so random so make up

[Jones28]

It's what we've just done!

You think he'll be back to us in the summer and starting our league opener??

He'll be out of Scotland, and yes, completely forgotten about by then. Bookmark this!!

And if thats the case I will bow down to your superior knowledge.

Is sending a player out on loan to a fellow Premier League club writing off a player now?

Or is it more like he's only 19 and needs time?

[Donegal Hibby]

Its not controversial. He's the only DM we have. If we aren't bringing in someone in that area now we are goosed.
I do think most teams need a DM in there squad , have we anyone at us that could play as a DM in our current squad?

[WhileTheChief..]

]Younger players don't develop?[/B]

Seems an odd stance to me

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I didn't say that :confused:

Do you think every young player can develop into one that is good enough for the Hibs first team?

[WhileTheChief..]

And if thats the case I will bow down to your superior knowledge.

Is sending a player out on loan to a fellow Premier League club writing off a player now?

Or is it more like he's only 19 and needs time?

Eh? What's with the attitude? I never said anything that remotely suggests that.

Geez, you're a touchy bunch today.

We've sent plenty of players out on loan to top league sides in the past, not all of them come back to us better players.

EDIt - yeah, I think LJ has written him off. We managed to get him out on loan, the first step to letting him go would be my bet.

[SMAXXA]

https://twitter.com/melechosher/status/1613701607329349632?s=46&t=D8_ClMXDS1KX3LPJZ3f4Cg

Zambian RB linked, don’t know how reliable the poster is.

Certainly not a RB from his highlights reel he a CM