Ukraine

[Sir David Gray]

Russia's military forces are targeting dozens of civilian sites, an official at Ukraine's Interior Ministry has said.

"The Russians say they are not striking civilian objects, but 33 civilian sites have been hit over the last 24 hours," Vadym Denysenko told the Reuters news agency.

Russian forces have closed in on the capital Kyiv after rapidly advancing from multiple fronts in the north, east, and south of Ukraine since the invasion began on Thursday.

Ukrainian officials have said Russian operatives are already in the city, urging locals to fight back with Molotov cocktails (petrol bombs).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60517447?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=6218944f000e9e34d25a7d22%26Russia%20bo mbed%2033%20civilian%20sites%20in%2024%20hours%3A% 20Ukraine%262022-02-25T08%3A42%3A25.318Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:558dab93-d3ff-4f6c-95e2-89f86229fe21&pinned_post_asset_id=6218944f000e9e34d25a7d22&pinned_post_type=share

[Stairway 2 7]

**** sake

Nolan Peterson
@nolanwpeterson
· 1m
Gunfire in central Kyiv. Very tense moments. Russians are in the city

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/milesmjohnson/status/1496923711005462533?s=21


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/bydonkeys/status/1496907482043920384?s=21


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[Stairway 2 7]

https://twitter.com/bydonkeys/status/1496907482043920384?s=21


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Uk anti tank missles are currently blowing up Russian tanks and armoured vehicles. The sanctions from the uk go further than any nation. The number one way to cripple the oligarchs is banning swift, but some nations are fighting against it.

Uk gov should be toppled for pandemic response, school dinners, increased poverty, ppe to friends, brexit destroying us for the next decades. But our response in support of Ukraine has been superb. Our javelins and anti tanks might be the only way to hold the south

[Stairway 2 7]

Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
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11m
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@michaelh992
Although multiple cities and fronts are holding, it's clear that #Russia is going for a decapitating strike in Kyiv - exactly as Western intel had predicted.

The goal may be to try and force collapse of other fronts - doubt it will be the case - and replace government

[Kato]

https://twitter.com/milesmjohnson/status/1496923711005462533?s=21


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSome UK sanctions don't kick in till Easter, some even later in the next parliamentary session. Not sure which ones. Some preparation would have seen them start immediately.

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[WhileTheChief..]

Uk anti tank missles are currently blowing up Russian tanks and armoured vehicles. The sanctions from the uk go further than any nation. The number one way to cripple the oligarchs is banning swift, but some nations are fighting against it.

Uk gov should be toppled for pandemic response, school dinners, increased poverty, ppe to friends, brexit destroying us for the next decades. But our response in support of Ukraine has been superb. Our javelins and anti tanks might be the only way to hold the south

:top marks

Some of the links getting posted on this thread now are ridiculous. The focus here is on the awful conflict.

Political point-scoring should be kept to another thread,

[Stairway 2 7]

Patrick Wintour
@patrickwintour
· 1h
Olaf Scholz German chancellor said yesterday he opposed Russia being excluded from SWIFT because “it’s very important that we decide on measures that have been prepared in recent weeks and reserve everything else for a situation where it is necessary to do other things as well

Nicola Sturgeon
@NicolaSturgeon
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1h
If the current situation doesn’t make the maximum possible sanctions - including exclusion from SWIFT - necessary and urgent, it’s hard to imagine what would. This is not a time for half measures

[Stairway 2 7]

Garry Kasparov
@Kasparov63
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12h
Germany still refusing to send weapons to Ukraine after funding Putin's war machine for years, or even to remove Russia from SWIFT. Neutrality between good and evil sides with evil, always

[LunasBoots]

Gunfire now at government quarters in Kiev, Russian tanks seen rolling in about 5.5 miles away.

[hibsbollah]

:top marks

Some of the links getting posted on this thread now are ridiculous. The focus here is on the awful conflict.

Political point-scoring should be kept to another thread,

You are the biggest political point scorer on here. If you spent less time trying to police stuff you disagree with we’d actually be able to discuss it without your constant complaining.

[lord bunberry]

The refusal to remove Russia from swift shows that some countries aren’t serious about stopping Putin. Once again money is more important than lives.

[Stairway 2 7]

As sadly expected eu countries buying more Russian gas not less right now

Javier Blas
@JavierBlas
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European benchmark nat gas TTF falls ~20% early on Friday as Russian gas flows into the EU (via Ukraine) surge. European utilities are asking Gazprom to ship more gas, and the Russian state-owned giant is happy to oblige. Capitalism in times of war | #Ukraine #UkraineInvasion

[James310]

The refusal to remove Russia from swift shows that some countries aren’t serious about stopping Putin. Once again money is more important than lives.

Donald Tusk calling out Germany, Italy and Hungary for their weak response.

https://twitter.com/donaldtuskEPP/status/1497120868367056896?t=40ODdnRV7QnLQvdpMv8FXw&s=19

[CropleyWasGod]

The refusal to remove Russia from swift shows that some countries aren’t serious about stopping Putin. Once again money is more important than lives.

If I had a company that was owed a lot of money by a Russian company, I'm not sure how I would feel about their being removed from SWIFT.

For Governments, it's less about the money and more about the political fallout.

[hibsbollah]

Good op-ed by Robert Reich here, particularly on domestic factors influencing Biden's next steps and Russia's financial resilience against sanctions.
Eight sobering realities about Putin’s invasion of Ukraine | Robert Reich | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/24/russia-putin-invasion-ukraine-robert-reich)

[Ozyhibby]

The refusal to remove Russia from swift shows that some countries aren’t serious about stopping Putin. Once again money is more important than lives.

I’ll be surprised if German position holds on swift. I would think public opinion will force them to change soon.


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[James310]

You are the biggest political point scorer on here. If you spent less time trying to police stuff you disagree with we’d actually be able to discuss it without your constant complaining.

Quite the opposite, refreshing to see an alternative view. Carry on WTC.

[hibsbollah]

Donald Tusk calling out Germany, Italy and Hungary for their weak response.

https://twitter.com/donaldtuskEPP/status/1497120868367056896?t=40ODdnRV7QnLQvdpMv8FXw&s=19

From the other link

Putin’s means of keeping western liberal democracy at bay isn’t just to invade Ukraine, of course. It’s also to stoke division inside the west by fueling racist nationalism in western Europe (https://www.theguardian.com/world/europe-news) and the United States. In this, Trump and Trumpism continue to be Putin’s most important ally.

take out 'racist nationalism' and thats what it going on here. Division inside the west and finger pointing about who is being the most 'manly' in its response is gold for Putin. Its much easier to call out your allies than get into a serious discussion about how effective sanctions can be (Putin has already developed his own shadow financial system with credit cards/cryptocurrency etc).

[Sir David Gray]

Champions League final moved to Paris.

[Stairway 2 7]

From the other link

Putin’s means of keeping western liberal democracy at bay isn’t just to invade Ukraine, of course. It’s also to stoke division inside the west by fueling racist nationalism in western Europe (https://www.theguardian.com/world/europe-news) and the United States. In this, Trump and Trumpism continue to be Putin’s most important ally.

take out 'racist nationalism' and thats what it going on here. Division inside the west and finger pointing about who is being the most 'manly' in its response is gold for Putin. Its much easier to call out your allies than get into a serious discussion about how effective sanctions can be (Putin has already developed his own shadow financial system with credit cards/cryptocurrency etc).

Nonsense they have invaded a sovereign nation and this is by far the best sanction bar not buying the gas. Everyone will be affected by it but there is lives and a nation at stake.

Even Nicola Sturgeon today is asking for them to be shut from swift

[Ozyhibby]

Nonsense they have invaded a sovereign nation and this is by far the best sanction bar not buying the gas. Everyone will be affected by it but there is lives and a nation at stake.

Even Nicola Sturgeon today is asking for them to be shut from swift

Exclusion from swift effectively cuts off the gas anyway as there is no way of paying for it. Germany, Italy and Hungary need to move soon.


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[hibsbollah]

Nonsense they have invaded a sovereign nation and this is by far the best sanction bar not buying the gas. Everyone will be affected by it but there is lives and a nation at stake.

Even Nicola Sturgeon today is asking for them to be shut from swift

Which bit of my post is nonsense? I have no idea how effective excluding them from SWIFT will be, im far from an expert in international finance, there is a dispute about how effective it will be. Its fairly obvious that the UKs enthusiasm for this course of action is probably because they are not exposed to Russian banks in the same way that Germany or the US is.

SWIFT sanctions could hurt Russia - but pain would also be felt by the West | Business News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/swift-sanctions-could-hurt-russia-but-pain-would-also-be-felt-by-the-west-12550501)

[Ozyhibby]

Nonsense they have invaded a sovereign nation and this is by far the best sanction bar not buying the gas. Everyone will be affected by it but there is lives and a nation at stake.

Even Nicola Sturgeon today is asking for them to be shut from swift

Even Nicola Sturgeon? SG has been consistently supportive of strong sanctions from the beginning.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Exclusion from swift effectively cuts off the gas anyway as there is no way of paying for it. Germany, Italy and Hungary need to move soon.


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Biden says he's got a deal coming to supply similar amounts of would be lost gas from Qatar. Fingers crossed as it could be a huge blow

[Hibernian Verse]

Biden says he's got a deal coming to supply similar amounts of would be lost gas from Qatar. Fingers crossed as it could be a huge blow

From a dictatorship to a human rights ****show. Super.

[Stairway 2 7]

Even Nicola Sturgeon? SG has been consistently supportive of strong sanctions from the beginning.


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I mean he must be calling her divisive also, which she clearly isn't. Its not about nationalism it's about doing what we can to stop Putin

[hibsbollah]

Even Nicola Sturgeon? SG has been consistently supportive of strong sanctions from the beginning.


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Yesterday the EU sanctions response was considered robust and decisive. Johnson targeted 5 individuals and 3 banks. Considered puny.

Today its finger pointing at Germany and the EU because the UK, who has no exposure to any sort of fallout from getting out of SWIFT, chose another route and then starts briefing its 'the Europeans' who are being puny. And suddenly everyone online is a financial expert about a system I bet 1% of the public had ever heard of 3 days ago.

Lack of a united front is going to be a problem if this continues.

[hibsbollah]

From a dictatorship to a human rights ****show. Super.


I think we/they would take delivery of natural gas from Sauron and Voldemort at the moment if it did something about the inflationary pressures that are going to effect millions (billions?) of ordinary people across the developed world very soon.

[WhileTheChief..]

You are the biggest political point scorer on here. If you spent less time trying to police stuff you disagree with we’d actually be able to discuss it without your constant complaining.

No, not even close.

One post is hardly constant complaining.

[Chorley Hibee]

From a dictatorship to a human rights ****show. Super.

Laughable.

Just shows the moral compass of the West for the sham that it is.

[Stairway 2 7]

Yesterday the EU sanctions response was considered robust and decisive. Johnson targeted 5 individuals and 3 banks. Considered puny.

Today its finger pointing at Germany and the EU because the UK, who has no exposure to any sort of fallout from getting out of SWIFT, chose another route and then starts briefing its 'the Europeans' who are being puny. And suddenly everyone online is a financial expert about a system I bet 1% of the public had ever heard of 3 days ago.

Lack of a united front is going to be a problem if this continues.

Uk has sanctioned 100 individuals last night and frozen their assets. Its not up for dispute that after a pathetic first round of sanctions uks is now the most robust. Swift would hobble Russia and its nothing to do with the uk just pushing it, Biden wanted it, scot gov made it their priority request, almost all eu nations and Ukraine themselves. Germany say they want it kept for a later round of sanctions whilst Russia are in Kyiv

Add to that 2000 of anti tank missles and hundreds of javelin launchers, that cost millions. Everyone needs to take a financial hit but Ukraine deserves better

[Hibernian Verse]

I think we/they would take delivery of natural gas from Sauron and Voldemort at the moment if it did something about the inflationary pressures that are going to effect millions (billions?) of ordinary people across the developed world very soon.

Yeah you're probably right mate.

[Chorley Hibee]

Uk has sanctioned 100 individuals last night and frozen their assets. Its not up for dispute that after a pathetic first round of sanctions uks is now the most robust. Swift would hobble Russia and its nothing to do with the uk just pushing it, Biden wanted it, scot gov made it their priority request, almost all eu nations and Ukraine themselves. Germany say they want it kept for a later round of sanctions whilst Russia are in Kyiv

Add to that 2000 of anti tank missles and hundreds of javelin launchers, that cost millions. Everyone needs to take a financial hit but Ukraine deserves better

Has there been a list of the individuals sanctioned?

Call me sceptical, but why am I not convinced that the UK government will go after the actual people it should be going after.

[hibsbollah]

Swift would hobble Russia

Definitively? I’m interested how you know this. Do you have a personal background in this or do you have a link or a source?

[Stairway 2 7]

Has there been a list of the individuals sanctioned?

Call me sceptical, but why am I not convinced that the UK government will go after the actual people it should be going after.
I seen it was available on .gov Web page

I think our anti tanks are going after the only people we should be going after at this minute

25583

[hibsbollah]

Has there been a list of the individuals sanctioned?

Call me sceptical, but why am I not convinced that the UK government will go after the actual people it should be going after.

There was a link posted on this thread showing a Lib Dem MP reading out the names of 35 Russian individuals under parliamentary privilege. Would be interested to see if they match. Abramovic was the first name she read out and I don’t believe he’s one of the individuals targeted.

[Santa Cruz]

Definitively? I’m interested how you know this. Do you have a personal background in this or do you have a link or a source?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/24/kyiv-furious-as-eu-wavers-on-banning-russia-from-swift-payment-system

[Stairway 2 7]

Definitively? I’m interested how you know this. Do you have a personal background in this or do you have a link or a source?

Its not going to stop them but its better than the individual sanctions, it badly affected iran and Libya. 35% of all there finances go through it just now, how is that not going to harm them?

[Kato]

There was a link posted on this thread showing a Lib Dem MP reading out the names of 35 Russian individuals under parliamentary privilege. Would be interested to see if they match. Abramovic was the first name she read out and I don’t believe he’s one of the individuals targeted.Only 2 of the 35 I think.

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[Chorley Hibee]

There was a link posted on this thread showing a Lib Dem MP reading out the names of 35 Russian individuals under parliamentary privilege. Would be interested to see if they match. Abramovic was the first name she read out and I don’t believe he’s one of the individuals targeted.

Agreed, and I've not seen Abramovic named in any correspondence released by the UK government.

I'm willing to state that very few of the 35 mentioned on that list will be subject to these new sanctions.

Also saw a report on Sky News this morning asking why we've only gone after Russia's second largest bank and not it's largest?

Almost as if we're posturing again without actually doing anything of genuine substance.

[hibsbollah]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/24/kyiv-furious-as-eu-wavers-on-banning-russia-from-swift-payment-system

Thanks. That article gives you the varying positions of the ‘allies’ involved, it doesn’t give any idea about who is right or how robust the arguments are. The leaders involved are basically all calling for unity.

[Coco Bryce]

Uk has sanctioned 100 individuals last night and frozen their assets. Its not up for dispute that after a pathetic first round of sanctions uks is now the most robust. Swift would hobble Russia and its nothing to do with the uk just pushing it, Biden wanted it, scot gov made it their priority request, almost all eu nations and Ukraine themselves. Germany say they want it kept for a later round of sanctions whilst Russia are in Kyiv

Add to that 2000 of anti tank missles and hundreds of javelin launchers, that cost millions. Everyone needs to take a financial hit but Ukraine deserves better

This was just our Tory government giving the Russians time to shift cash from their accounts before the 'proper' sanctions kicked in.

Standard procedure.

[Chorley Hibee]

Only 2 of the 35 I think.

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Well there you go, the idea that the UK is taking strong action shown up for the lie that it is.

[hibsbollah]

Only 2 of the 35 I think.

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:dunno: If that’s true then there’s more questions than answers and claims of our response being ‘superb’ is questionable.

[Stairway 2 7]

Well there you go, the idea that the UK is taking strong action shown up for the lie that it is.

That was definitely the first round of sanctions was two of the 35

[Stairway 2 7]

Ragıp Soylu
@ragipsoylu
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Italian PM Draghi: "Zelensky is hiding somewhere in Kiev, said that there is no time for Ukraine, there is no time for his family. We had a telephone appointment at 9.30am but it was not possible to make the call, he was no longer available

[AugustaHibs]

Agreed, and I've not seen Abramovic named in any correspondence released by the UK government.

I'm willing to state that very few of the 35 mentioned on that list will be subject to these new sanctions.

Also saw a report on Sky News this morning asking why we've only gone after Russia's second largest bank and not it's largest?

Almost as if we're posturing again without actually doing anything of genuine substance.


I absolutely despise the government down south but I understand why they are taking it slowly in regards to sanctions.

If you throw every possible sanction at them from the start, what else can you do if Russia go further? WW3 would basically be a guarantee.

[Mon Dieu4]

The Russian Foreign secretary is on Sky News currently and coming out with some amount of pish not heard since the comical Ali days

[Stairway 2 7]

France says cutting swift should be last resort. Thing is sanctions wasn't stopping Putin just annoying him. Boots are on the ground they needed weapons not sanctions

https://twitter.com/Anapecalleddave/status/1497148333546221576

@Anapecalleddave
What does it take to trigger the "last resort" that hasn't already happened?

[LunasBoots]

Ragıp Soylu
@ragipsoylu
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10m
Italian PM Draghi: "Zelensky is hiding somewhere in Kiev, said that there is no time for Ukraine, there is no time for his family. We had a telephone appointment at 9.30am but it was not possible to make the call, he was no longer available

Yeah there's been a lot of 'his spokesperson said' in the last few hours, bit worrying

[Kato]

Sanctions took ten years to work against South Africa. Just to put those moves into perspective.

I don't think Putin gives a monkeys. They may, however, encourage some oligarchs to move against him.

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[Stairway 2 7]

This is what the uk is doing, the billionaires will have their money off shore anyway

Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
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14m
#Ukrainian land forces claim to have destroyed 20 tanks in in the Chernihiv region

[Kato]

This is what the uk is doing, the billionaires will have their money off shore anyway



By "offshore" do you mean one Her Majesty's tax haven islands?

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[ronaldo7]

Russian invasion: UK fails to set up route for Ukrainians as thousands flee

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19951742.russian-invasion-uk-fails-set-route-ukrainians-thousands-flee/

[grunt]

That was definitely the first round of sanctions was two of the 35
It now stands at 4 of Navalny's list of 35 have been sanctioned.
2 this week, and 2 had previously been sanctioned after the Salisbury poisonings.

[JeMeSouviens]

I absolutely despise the government down south but I understand why they are taking it slowly in regards to sanctions.

If you throw every possible sanction at them from the start, what else can you do if Russia go further? WW3 would basically be a guarantee.

I don't get this argument at all. Surely everything possible needs to be done to stop Putin now or he only becomes more emboldened? If we had stopped him in Georgia, there might not have been a Crimea, stopped him in Crimea, might not be facing this ...

As Radium said yesterday, it's right into Godwin's Law ... but learn from the 1930s: Rhineland->Anschluss->Sudetenland->Poland. The steps get bigger and bolder.

[WhileTheChief..]

Russian invasion: UK fails to set up route for Ukrainians as thousands flee

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19951742.russian-invasion-uk-fails-set-route-ukrainians-thousands-flee/

It's barely been 24 hours.

I wonder what every other country in Europe has done so far?

We will look after those who need it.

[JeMeSouviens]

It's barely been 24 hours.

I wonder what every other country in Europe has done so far?

We will look after those who need it.

That would be hilarious if it wasn't so ****ing tragic. Maybe you should follow your own advice and stick to the situation in Ukraine?

[ronaldo7]

It's barely been 24 hours.

I wonder what every other country in Europe has done so far?

We will look after those who need it.

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/ireland-russia-ukraine#:~:text=Ireland%20is%20set%20to%20waive%20 visa%20requirements%20for,its%20military%20operati ons%20in%20Ukraine%20early%20that%20morning.

It's really not difficult to do. It's just that in Scotland, we can't.

[grunt]

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1497139951552671744?s=20&t=BnJGQHccWq8JTEJcDh1wqw

Our prescient PM, speaking in November 2021 (just 3 months ago)


"The old concepts of fighting big tank battles on European land mass are over," said Boris Johnson last November, as he mocked the idea of armed conflict returning to Europe.

[AugustaHibs]

I don't get this argument at all. Surely everything possible needs to be done to stop Putin now or he only becomes more emboldened? If we had stopped him in Georgia, there might not have been a Crimea, stopped him in Crimea, might not be facing this ...

As Radium said yesterday, it's right into Godwin's Law ... but learn from the 1930s: Rhineland->Anschluss->Sudetenland->Poland. The steps get bigger and bolder.

I totally get your point.

I think I’m more just anxiously spectating, it’s a worrying time and even more so when not a single one of us can do a thing about it.

[JeMeSouviens]

I totally get your point.

I think I’m more just anxiously spectating, it’s a worrying time and even more so when not a single one of us can do a thing about it.

Totally agree with that. Horrible.

[Stairway 2 7]

It now stands at 4 of Navalny's list of 35 have been sanctioned.
2 this week, and 2 had previously been sanctioned after the Salisbury poisonings.

Most on the list are to do personally with that case, like covering up his poisoning. Despicable people none the less

[grunt]

We will look after those who need it.
I honestly don't know how you can say this, when you look at the Home Office treatment of refugees under Patel. There is simply no evidence whatsoever that the current UK Government treats refugees well.

[HibsGW]

Totally agree with that. Horrible.

Think that’s the difficulty for now really, there’s no right or wrong option, it’s just about how Russia react to whatever we do that needs considered. It’s a balancing act between provoking them and defending Ukraine really.

I’ll add I wouldn’t want it to be me that’s making the call on what we do next.

[Stairway 2 7]

I honestly don't know how you can say this, when you look at the Home Office treatment of refugees under Patel. There is simply no evidence whatsoever that the current UK Government treats refugees well.

Agreement there and the few that do come would probably need to pass their Britishnes or some such pish

[Stairway 2 7]

OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical
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33m
Lavrov: RUSSIA will guarantee that Ukraine is demilitarized

[ronaldo7]

I honestly don't know how you can say this, when you look at the Home Office treatment of refugees under Patel. There is simply no evidence whatsoever that the current UK Government treats refugees well.

They'll look after those with the money. Golden Fast pass visa systems for those with money, just as happened in the past. Meanwhile, Joe public, and his sons will be left to fend for themselves.

[Chorley Hibee]

It's barely been 24 hours.

I wonder what every other country in Europe has done so far?

We will look after those who need it.

We have such a great record on that front don't we?

Those Ukrainians must be delighted to hear that the empathetic angel of charity, Priti Patel, will have their needs at the forefront of her mind.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1496866811110834176

UkraineWorld
@ukraine_world
Ukrainian woman confronts Russian soldiers in Henychesk, Kherson region. Asks them why they came to our land and urges to put sunflower seeds in their pockets [so that flowers would grow when they die on the Ukrainian land]



The translation is incredible, my new hero
25584

[Pretty Boy]

I wonder what the NATO states that border Russia are thinking currently?

As said by a few of us above many of these states actively sought closer ties with NATO, the US and the EU, including full membership in both the former and latter in some cases. The NATO position has always been that when one member state is attacked, they all are.

Whilst Ukraine is obviously not a member some of those countries that are must be looking on with worry and bewilderment at both the impotence of and division among their supposed allies. It's glaringly obvious the US, UK and the rest of Europe are either (understandably) unwilling to commit to a ground, air or sea war anytime soon or are quite possibly not in a position to do so.

I think it goes without saying that most people have no desire for another war across Europe and restraint, (meaningful) sanctions and support in the form of hardware and intelligence are the order of the day for now. However Putin's own words suggest this isn't an end game for him, there was clear indication he fancies 'getting the bank back together'. As was said a few posts above he has been emboldened by the muddled and ineffective response to Georgia, Crimea and thus far Ukraine. His propaganda works outwith his own borders in terms of destabilising and dividing Europe and the US. The Salisbury poisonings have been mentioned a few times recently and there were plenty on here and elsewhere who pushed the Putin narrative that the whole episode was a creation of the UK state and nothing at all to do with Russia. Those seeds of distrust and division whilst small scale are useful and feed that instability albeit from a different angle.

If I was Estonian, Latvian or Polish I'm not sure membership of NATO and/or the EU would be providing much comfort today.

[Stairway 2 7]

Conflict News
@Conflicts
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UPDATE: Ukraine's Ministry of Defence now states that 18,000 assault rifles and corresponding ammunition have already been distributed to citizens in Kyiv

OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical
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Six U.S. Air Force F-35 Lightning II aircraft assigned to the 34th Fighter Squadron currently operating out of Spangdahlem Air Base, Germany, forward-deployed to Estonia’s Amari Air Base, Lithuania’s Siauliai Air Base, and Romania’s Fetesti Air Base.

[ronaldo7]

https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1496866811110834176

UkraineWorld
@ukraine_world
Ukrainian woman confronts Russian soldiers in Henychesk, Kherson region. Asks them why they came to our land and urges to put sunflower seeds in their pockets [so that flowers would grow when they die on the Ukrainian land]



The translation is incredible, my new hero
25584

I watched this yesterday. They're a brave bunch those Ukrainians.

[Stairway 2 7]

I wonder what the NATO states that border Russia are thinking currently?

As said by a few of us above many of these states actively sought closer ties with NATO, the US and the EU, including full membership in both the former and latter in some cases. The NATO position has always been that when one member state is attacked, they all are.

Whilst Ukraine is obviously not a member some of those countries that are must be looking on with worry and bewilderment at both the impotence of and division among their supposed allies. It's glaringly obvious the US, UK and the rest of Europe are either (understandably) unwilling to commit to a ground, air or sea war anytime soon or are quite possibly not in a position to do so.

I think it goes without saying that most people have no desire for another war across Europe and restraint, (meaningful) sanctions and support in the form of hardware and intelligence are the order of the day for now. However Putin's own words suggest this isn't an end game for him, there was clear indication he fancies 'getting the bank back together'. As was said a few posts above he has been emboldened by the muddled and ineffective response to Georgia, Crimea and thus far Ukraine. His propaganda works outwith his own borders in terms of destabilising and dividing Europe and the US. The Salisbury poisonings have been mentioned a few times recently and there were plenty on here and elsewhere who pushed the Putin narrative that the whole episode was a creation of the UK state and nothing at all to do with Russia. Those seeds of distrust and division whilst small scale are useful and feed that instability albeit from a different angle.

If I was Estonian, Latvian or Polish I'm not sure membership of NATO and/or the EU would be providing much comfort today.

Never saw your message before mine coincidentally. But there is uk and us ground troops that have been sent to the balkins this week so I think it would be different

[grunt]

They're a brave bunch those Ukrainians.https://twitter.com/MatthewOToole2/status/1497168334734909443?s=20&t=BnJGQHccWq8JTEJcDh1wqw


Vitaly Skakun is hailed as a hero after sacrificing his life to blow up the Henichesky Bridge.The bridge was mined but a Russian column was advancing and there was no time to detonate it remotely. Skakun radioed his unit and told them he would do it manually, saying goodbye.

[AugustaHibs]

Conflict News
@Conflicts
·
4m
UPDATE: Ukraine's Ministry of Defence now states that 18,000 assault rifles and corresponding ammunition have already been distributed to citizens in Kyiv

OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical
·
5m
Six U.S. Air Force F-35 Lightning II aircraft assigned to the 34th Fighter Squadron currently operating out of Spangdahlem Air Base, Germany, forward-deployed to Estonia’s Amari Air Base, Lithuania’s Siauliai Air Base, and Romania’s Fetesti Air Base.


Really don’t agree with the first tweet.

Gives the Russians a ‘valid’ reason to kill civilians

[Stairway 2 7]

I watched this yesterday. They're a brave bunch those Ukrainians.

These hero's in the vid bellow too, balls of steel. Video is going viral thankfully and they are getting the highest military honor

https://twitter.com/aletweetsnews/status/1497008826201124870


Alejandro Alvarez
@aletweetsnews
A group of Ukrainian border guards were stationed on Snake Island, in the Black Sea south of Odessa, when a Russian warship ordered them to surrender under threat of attack.

Their response: "Russian warship, go **** yourself."

They held their ground. All 13 were killed.


“This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you’ll be bombed.”

Zmiinyi defenders: “Russian warship, go **** yourself

[ronaldo7]

https://twitter.com/MatthewOToole2/status/1497168334734909443?s=20&t=BnJGQHccWq8JTEJcDh1wqw

The border guards on Snake Island have set the scene for the next few years imo. Ukrainians will never surrender. They may end up under occupation, however, woe betide the first Russian soldier to step out on their own on the streets of Kyiv. The public will never willingly go back under Russian control.

[The Harp Awakes]

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/ireland-russia-ukraine#:~:text=Ireland%20is%20set%20to%20waive%20 visa%20requirements%20for,its%20military%20operati ons%20in%20Ukraine%20early%20that%20morning.

It's really not difficult to do. It's just that in Scotland, we can't.

Indeed. I'm pretty sure if Scotland was already independent, we'd have acted as quickly as the Irish in accepting Ukrainian refugees. How good would it be for Scotland to make these type of decisions for itself?

Another post for another thread I know.

[Stairway 2 7]

Zelensky
Володимир Зеленський
@ZelenskyyUa
· 3m
Today at 10:30 am at the entrances to Chernihiv, Hostomel and Melitopol there were heavy fighting. People died. Next time I'll try to move the war schedule to talk to #MarioDraghi at a specific time. Meanwhile, Ukraine continues to fight for its people

[AugustaHibs]

Zelensky
Володимир Зеленський
@ZelenskyyUa
· 3m
Today at 10:30 am at the entrances to Chernihiv, Hostomel and Melitopol there were heavy fighting. People died. Next time I'll try to move the war schedule to talk to #MarioDraghi at a specific time. Meanwhile, Ukraine continues to fight for its people

How much longer do we reckon he survives?

If he stays in Ukraine ( incredible courage) I can’t see any other ending than him being killed?

[ronaldo7]

https://twitter.com/BrunoBrussels/status/1497174774740570113/photo/1

[Stairway 2 7]

How much longer do we reckon he survives?

If he stays in Ukraine ( incredible courage) I can’t see any other ending than him being killed?

Fighting all around the outskirts of Kyiv just now so not promising

[Pretty Boy]

How much longer do we reckon he survives?

If he stays in Ukraine ( incredible courage) I can’t see any other ending than him being killed?

Reading and listening to him, Klitschko and other Ukranian officials it would appear many are quite willing to die if the alternative is surrender.

It's not a nice thing to think about but you have to take your hat off to such courage and commitment to your ideals.

[Stairway 2 7]

Reading and listening to him, Klitschko and other Ukranian officials it would appear many are quite willing to die if the alternative is surrender.

It's not a nice thing to think about but you have to take your hat off to such courage and commitment to your ideals.
Also doesn't point well for Putin thinking he puts in a puppet and then that is it finished

[WeeRussell]

Reading and listening to him, Klitschko and other Ukranian officials it would appear many are quite willing to die if the alternative is surrender.

It's not a nice thing to think about but you have to take your hat off to such courage and commitment to your ideals.

Really is a terrible situation as you say - while it shows some human beings at the worst we can be, it also puts others in very admirable and commendable light.

I pray it doesn’t get to that stage for these guys but hope gets fainter every day for the good and the innocent.

Heartbreaking stuff.

[Chorley Hibee]

Worrying data from Chernobyl.

https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1497156832170815516?t=dtYBSNzvR6yINB5eyBI5Og&s=19

[Stairway 2 7]

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·1h

Russia will ensure the demilitarization of Ukraine. Russia will also ensure the denazification of Ukraine - warns Russia.

When Volodmyr Groysman was still PM (2016-2019), Ukraine was the only country in the world apart from Israel to have both a Jewish President and Prime Minister

[AugustaHibs]

Reading and listening to him, Klitschko and other Ukranian officials it would appear many are quite willing to die if the alternative is surrender.

It's not a nice thing to think about but you have to take your hat off to such courage and commitment to your ideals.

Would love Klitschko to be allowed 12 rounds with putin.

[Stairway 2 7]

Ukrainian defenses near Chernihiv are holding firm.

The Units of Operational Command "North" have destroyed 20 enemy tanks

Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov just stated “once we capture the entire Ukraine, take control of all state institutions, they will be able to freely elect their future, in the same manner it happened in Crimea in 2014

Dimitry Rogozin, the chief of the Russian space corporation Roscosmos says that if sanctions continue, Russia could stop maintaining the orbit of the International Space Station and allow it to crash into the United States

[Stairway 2 7]

Aurora Intel
@AuroraIntel
·
6m
#F1 announce they will not race in Russia this year

US team Hass f1 will take Russian livery and sponsorship off their car

[lord bunberry]

If I had a company that was owed a lot of money by a Russian company, I'm not sure how I would feel about their being removed from SWIFT.

For Governments, it's less about the money and more about the political fallout.
Surely they will be insured for the money?

[stokesmessiah]

Worrying data from Chernobyl.

https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1497156832170815516?t=dtYBSNzvR6yINB5eyBI5Og&s=19

There was a statement from someone this morning (Ukrainian Nuclear regulatory type) saying that the spikes were caused by the dust kicked up by the Russian attack and that it would settle down.

[Stairway 2 7]

I want to give advice to the current president of Ukraine ... before he becomes the former President…

Call our commander-in-chief, President Vladimir Vladimirovich and apologize,

says Ramzan Kadyrov, the Head of the Chechen Republic

[Stairway 2 7]

Germany opposition Christian Democrat calling for swift expulsion

Norbert Röttgen
@n_roettgen
·
3h
#SWIFT is our sharpest sword and was announced to hit in case of an attack. The SWIFT exclusion of #Russia must not fail because of Germany! #Lanz

[Stairway 2 7]

@Justin_Lin
·
9h
I can confirm Canada has encouraged the United Kingdom's proposal to cut Russia off the SWIFT payment system. Other European allies are not onboard, but Ottawa and London are hoping to keep the conversation going today


"Some people in Europe are afraid of losing money while other people in Kyiv have to die’

Deputy PM of Latvia Artis Pabriks hits out at Germany & others for not agreeing to shut Russia out of SWIFT, the global international payments network, which cld hit Russian trade

[Ozyhibby]

Germany opposition Christian Democrat calling for swift expulsion

Norbert Röttgen
@n_roettgen
·
3h
#SWIFT is our sharpest sword and was announced to hit in case of an attack. The SWIFT exclusion of #Russia must not fail because of Germany! #Lanz

Great news. I can’t see Germany taking long to change position.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
·
1m
Estonia is sending Javelin anti-tank missiles as well as anti-aircraft munitions to #Ukraine

[Stairway 2 7]

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense just announced that today’s fighting is much more intense than yesterday’s.

They estimate that nearly 1000 Russian soldiers have been killed today, while 400-800 lost their lives yesterday

[Pretty Boy]

https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1497134123890069505?t=fG963gMpytIJqJYKpsOCng&s=19

[Stairway 2 7]

Poland is closing its airspace to Russian aircraft

Anonymous just took credit for bringing down the Russian Ministry of Defense website

[WhileTheChief..]

How much longer do we reckon he survives?

If he stays in Ukraine ( incredible courage) I can’t see any other ending than him being killed?

Do we know if the Russians are looking to kill or capture members of the government?

[Stairway 2 7]

Do we know if the Russians are looking to kill or capture members of the government?

I wouldn't think they would want him to be able to form an opposition or resistance, on the other hand he would be a martyr

[Ozyhibby]

Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
·
1m
Estonia is sending Javelin anti-tank missiles as well as anti-aircraft munitions to #Ukraine

It’s anti aircraft that they need most. The UK does have any of that to give them so they will have to get that from elsewhere.


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[Greencore]

Poland is closing its airspace to Russian aircraft

Anonymous just took credit for bringing down the Russian Ministry of Defense website

I love /b/

[Stairway 2 7]

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·19sThe Ukrainians are going all out today.

They are now handing out automatic rifles straight from military trucks to any civilian who requests one.

The street battles in Ukrainian cities will be very costly for the Russian Army

Ukrainian has conscription so all men have military experience

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497197710327222274

[hibsbollah]

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense just announced that today’s fighting is much more intense than yesterday’s.

They estimate that nearly 1000 Russian soldiers have been killed today, while 400-800 lost their lives yesterday

Those numbers are terrifying.

[Ozyhibby]

Visegrád 24 [emoji1086][emoji1126][emoji1200][emoji1217]@visegrad24·19sThe Ukrainians are going all out today.

They are now handing out automatic rifles straight from military trucks to any civilian who requests one.

The street battles in Ukrainian cities will be very costly for the Russian Army

Ukrainian has conscription so all men have military experience

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497197710327222274

Not important right now but the consequences of all those guns in Ukrainian society after the war will be grim. Still needs must right now.


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[WhileTheChief..]

Those numbers are terrifying.

And will probably only get higher as each day passes.

I wonder if/when Putin will say enough is enough. Will the Russian public come to that conclusion sooner?

Hopefully they see the folly in these actions and can somehow do something to bring this awful regime to an end.

[ronaldo7]

Dnipro.

A terrible and heart breaking but now common picture from Ukraine. The new born from Dnipro hospital’s neonatal intensive care unit were moved into a bomb shelter while the Russian troops attacked the city.

https://twitter.com/franakviacorka/status/1497196799077064704

[AugustaHibs]

https://mobile.twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1497196542138196000


Wow.

[LunasBoots]

Going to be a absolute bloodbath in Kiev, Ukrainian military taking anyone young enough back to Kiev who are trying to flee and arming them up to protect the city.

[LunasBoots]

https://mobile.twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1497196542138196000


Wow.

More likely where the real war crimes will come in, Chechans are horrible

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1497196542138196000


Wow.

His second tweet might help them with the body count pressure back in Moscow, disgusting

Neil Hauer
@NeilPHauer
·
15m
Replying to
@NeilPHauer
Note that one of the primary utilities of Chechen forces for Putin is that Russian public will care much less if they are killed (than ethnic Russians). Much greater political tolerance for casualties

[Stairway 2 7]

More likely where the real war crimes will come in, Chechans are horrible

Yep I read there was a huge fear in the Kyiv public last night after rumours the chechans were coming in in the morning. Disregard for women and the Geneva convention

[Kato]

Do we know if the Russians are looking to kill or capture members of the government?US intelligence seem to think so and they have been pretty much bang-on the last couple of weeks.

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[Stairway 2 7]

https://twitter.com/aletweetsnews/status/1496893311835123716

A thread of videos of mass protest in most Russian cities last night. Do to the Internet and social media, Putin doesn't have control of the information he once enjoyed

[Hibernian Verse]

US intelligence seem to think so and they have been pretty much bang-on the last couple of weeks.

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Kill or capture though? or either?

[twiceinathens]

Given the sympathetic Chinese reaction that the Russians "had no other choice" if I lived in Taiwan I would be very afraid.

[Kato]

Kill or capture though? or either?Kill. "Beheaded" was their phrase.

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[Stairway 2 7]

https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1497196303654264880

Bit tianamin square, Ukrainian citizen holding up tanks

[Stairway 2 7]

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24

·40m
Chechen Islamist 'hunters' are being unleashed to detain - or kill - Kyiv officials say reports

[WhileTheChief..]

https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1497196303654264880

Bit tianamin square, Ukrainian citizen holding up tanks

Same thing happened in Lithuania when students protested against them.

The Russian tanks simply killed the students by driving over them.

[Hibernian Verse]

Same thing happened in Lithuania when students protested against them.

The Russian tanks simply killed the students by driving over them.

Looks like they're being a bit more savvy today and avoiding.

[JeMeSouviens]

Kill. "Beheaded" was their phrase.

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Was it not "decapitate"? Which doesn't necessarily literally mean they're going to behead him in the context of removing a head of state. It might just mean capture.

[Stairway 2 7]

Joe Barnes
@Barnes_Joe
Italian prime minister Mario Draghi successfully secured a carve out for Italian luxury goods from the EU's package of economic sanctions against Nato, EU dip tells me. 'Apparently selling Gucci loafers to oligarchs is more of a priority than hitting back at Putin,' source adds

Belgium's diamond industry is also not included in the package of sanctions, but wider point is Mario Draghi lobbied to ensure luxury goods were kept out, and is still lobbying to make sure they're not included in future package of sanctions

[Stairway 2 7]

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·37mFootball club Manchester United has broken off its contract with Aeroflot, which was its official carrier

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·30m
As Ukrainians capture Russian weapons and equipment, Russia effectively provides Ukraine with more weapons than Germany did.

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·38mPoles are organizing a protest by the German embassy in Warsaw today, due to Germany’s decision to not cut Russia off SWIFT

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·26mThe Head of the Polish Prime Minister’s Office @michaldworczyk states today that the Polish border is open for ALL Ukrainians, also those without valid ID documents and COVID certificates.

The official said Poland is preparing to take in 1-4 mln refugees in the coming days.

[Jones28]

Those videos of the Chechens are absolutely terrifying.

[hibsbollah]

More likely where the real war crimes will come in, Chechans are horrible

I think we need to be careful with this kind of talk. There’s an element of demonising going on, not necessarily on this thread, with islamophobia and racism in the background. Chechens were brutalised by the Russians as much as anyone else from what I’ve read.

[LunasBoots]

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/t12l4s/chechen_soldiers_shouting_allah_akbar_to_fight/

[Mon Dieu4]

I think we need to be careful with this kind of talk. There’s an element of demonising going on, not necessarily on this thread, with islamophobia and racism in the background. Chechens were brutalised by the Russians as much as anyone else from what I’ve read.

They kinda like brutalising gay folk though do they not?

[WhileTheChief..]

I think we need to be careful with this kind of talk. There’s an element of demonising going on, not necessarily on this thread, with islamophobia and racism in the background. Chechens were brutalised by the Russians as much as anyone else from what I’ve read.

If anything, I would have thought that Chechens and folk from Georgia would be standing side by side with Ukraine.

[Stairway 2 7]

I think we need to be careful with this kind of talk. There’s an element of demonising going on, not necessarily on this thread, with islamophobia and racism in the background. Chechens were brutalised by the Russians as much as anyone else from what I’ve read.

No one is talking about the chechen people it's the soldiers. Bunch of horrible scabs who forget the horrors Russia gave their people anti Moscows islamophobia. Their leader Kadyrov is a piece of work too

[Stairway 2 7]

Barak Ravid
@BarakRavid
·
7m
BREAKING: In a video conference call last night Ukraine President Zelensky told EU leaders: "This might be the last time you see me alive", two sources briefed on the call told me

[Stairway 2 7]

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·

2mUkraine has accused Russia of committing war crimes after it shelled a kindergarten in Akhtyrka today.

Adult civilians were killed while children are fighting for their lives after the"Solnyshko" kindergarten was hit.

[He's here!]

I don't get this argument at all. Surely everything possible needs to be done to stop Putin now or he only becomes more emboldened? If we had stopped him in Georgia, there might not have been a Crimea, stopped him in Crimea, might not be facing this ...

As Radium said yesterday, it's right into Godwin's Law ... but learn from the 1930s: Rhineland->Anschluss->Sudetenland->Poland. The steps get bigger and bolder.

What is 'everything possible' though? Putin's been planning for this invasion for many months, plenty time for him to ensure sanctions will have next to no effect on him (or at least not for a good number of months or even years, by which time maximum damage will have been inflicted on Ukraine's military assets and a regime change implemented). The US and Europe effectively gave him the nod by making clear last year that Ukraine was a long way from either NATO or EU membership (ie confirming to Putin that nobody would fight with Ukraine if he went ahead with full-scale invasion). Biden doesn't need Russia's gas, hence the reluctance to go beyond indignant speeches and threats of supposedly 'crippling' sanctions.

The terrifying reality is that neither diplomacy nor economic sanctions are alternatives to war when faced with a bampot like Putin.

[Stairway 2 7]

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·16mRussian troops shooting at civilian cars traveling on a highway near Kherson

Former Ukrainian President @poroshenko has taken up a Kalashnikov rifle alongside civilian defense forces in Kyiv

The Czech Republic has announced that it will follow Poland’s lead and close the skies for Russian airlines

[AugustaHibs]

Please tell me I’m not the only one here who has just seen the female Russian minister answer the question from the British journalist?

Holy ****..

[Paulie Walnuts]

Please tell me I’m not the only one here who has just seen the female Russian minister answer the question from the British journalist?

Holy ****..

This is the sort of screwballs that are running Russia. They’re ****ing insane.

[AugustaHibs]

This lady is ****ing crazy. Please get this witch off my TV Sky news.

[Hibernian Verse]

A lot of us are at work what's she said??

[AugustaHibs]

And now Putin on TV again. Describes Zelensky's government as a "band of drug addicts and neo-Nazis that has lodged itself in Kyiv and taken hostage the entire Ukrainian people."

[Pretty Boy]

Putin now essentially asking Ukranian troops to switch sides. He's absolutely lost the plot and then some.

[Willis1875]

Will never understand these news channels that cut people off mid-conversation due to running out of time….it’s a 24hour station

[Stairway 2 7]

And now Putin on TV again. Describes Zelensky's government as a "band of drug addicts and neo-Nazis that has lodged itself in Kyiv and taken hostage the entire Ukrainian people."

Calling a Jewish man a nazi is all they have.

Maria Snegovaya
@MSnegovaya
·
11h
Some quick notes:
1) US intel leaks prob helped shift the start of RU operation. But infoattacks failed to alter Kremlin's calculus. Kremlin was forced to fake reasons for starting the war, provocations. It didn't work. Eventually RU decided to act w/o any formal pretext AT ALL.

The same with sanctions: they are potent, but won't later Kremlin's thinking. Something qualitatively different is needed. It feels that the West is always one step behind in a situation where the stakes have risen significantly.

RU is hard to target precisely because it's embedded in the liberal economic order created by the West as a result of globalization. It was believed that such interdependence should deter the aggressor, but in reality, it is the aggressor who limits the defense of his victim.

I will add that powerful sanctions are still needed, not to stop the Kremlin (which is unlikely at this point), but to discourage other international vultures who are now closely following the developments in Ukraine.

[Pretty Boy]

And now Putin on TV again. Describes Zelensky's government as a "band of drug addicts and neo-Nazis that has lodged itself in Kyiv and taken hostage the entire Ukrainian people."

Zelensky is fast becoming the worlds most prominent Jewish Nazi......

[Stairway 2 7]

Illia Ponomarenko
@IAPonomarenko
·
34m
Russian losses as of 3 p.m.:
80 tanks, 516 armored vehicles, 10 aircraft, 2,800 manpower

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/johnobrennan2/status/1497221554521972738?s=21


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[Jones28]

https://twitter.com/johnobrennan2/status/1497221554521972738?s=21


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Apparently this is a Ukrainian vehicle that was distracted by cross fire at the time of the accident, going by other stuff on Twitter.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Illia Ponomarenko
@IAPonomarenko
·
34m
Russian losses as of 3 p.m.:
80 tanks, 516 armored vehicles, 10 aircraft, 2,800 manpower

Are these numbers even close to being reliable?

They seem awfully high..

[Lendo]

Please tell me I’m not the only one here who has just seen the female Russian minister answer the question from the British journalist?

Holy ****..

What was said?

[AugustaHibs]

What was said?

Said journalists weren’t people. And harped on for a full 10 minutes in a crazed state asking the British journalist how many people they have killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Also asking him to confirm how many Russians have been killed by Ukrainians

[Hibernian Verse]

Apparently this is a Ukrainian vehicle that was distracted by cross fire at the time of the accident, going by other stuff on Twitter.

Driver was pulled out alive without a scratch. Absolute miracle.

[He's here!]

https://twitter.com/johnobrennan2/status/1497221554521972738?s=21


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I saw that earlier this afternoon but it appears that the military vehicle was actually Ukrainian and was taking evasive action rather than deliberately taking out the car.

[AugustaHibs]

I saw that earlier this afternoon but it appears that the military vehicle was actually Ukrainian and was taking evasive action rather than deliberately taking out the car.

I read it was a Ukrainian vehicle which had been hijacked by Russian forces

[Lendo]

https://twitter.com/johnobrennan2/status/1497221554521972738?s=21


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The running over of people was a common tactic of the Russians in Afghanistan. They would gather all the men to the centre of a village, tie them up, then run over them in a tank. Saved on ammunition.

[grunt]

https://twitter.com/johnobrennan2/status/1497221554521972738?s=21


I saw that earlier this afternoon but it appears that the military vehicle was actually Ukrainian and was taking evasive action rather than deliberately taking out the car.


I read it was a Ukrainian vehicle which had been hijacked by Russian forces


The running over of people was a common tactic of the Russians in Afghanistan. They would gather all the men to the centre of a village, tie them up, then run over them in a tank. Saved on ammunition.

A timely reminder to be careful to watch out for disinformation, there's a lot of it about right now.

[Stairway 2 7]

Are these numbers even close to being reliable?

They seem awfully high..

Ministry of defence numbers and in line with what others have been saying unfortunately. I've not seen figures of Ukrainian deaths but surely thousands.

[Stairway 2 7]

Kateryna Yushchenko
@KatyaYushchenko
Someone posted a photo of this 80-year-old who showed up to join the army, carrying with him a small case with 2 t-shirts, a pair of extra pants, a toothbrush and a few sandwiches for lunch. He said he was doing it for his grandkids

25586

[Bristolhibby]

Are these numbers even close to being reliable?

They seem awfully high..

I think we in the West just assume low casualty rates as we steam roll into some I’ll prepared and under matched Arab Country.

Toe to toe with a well motivated, armed, trained and determined advisory defending their own home with a civilian militia, 2,800 seems light to me.

J

[hibsbollah]

Zelensky is fast becoming the worlds most prominent Jewish Nazi......

To be fair, the head of the Ukrainian state being of the Jewish faith does not mean there arent plenty brigades of the Ukrainian army with strong neo Nazi elements. I’ve read plenty about that, not just from RT, from journalists and leftist commentators…whether or not it is fake news which has its origins in Russia I couldn’t say with 100% accuracy, can anyone?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Ministry of defence numbers and in line with what others have been saying unfortunately. I've not seen figures of Ukrainian deaths but surely thousands.

:aok:

[Stairway 2 7]

To be fair, the head of the Ukrainian state being of the Jewish faith does not mean there arent plenty brigades of the Ukrainian army with strong neo Nazi elements. I’ve read plenty about that, not just from RT, from journalists and leftist commentators…whether or not it is fake news which has its origins in Russia I couldn’t say with 100% accuracy, can anyone?

I read a thread on it I'll try to find. It's ridiculous there was 1 small battalion in the whole army. Ukraine voters cast something like 1% of votes to far right parties in the last election, one of the smallest in Europe. And was the only country outside isreal to ever have a Jewish prime minister and president at the same time.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://twitter.com/eskelinen_antti/status/1497224856265531394

Antti Eskelinen
@eskelinen_antti
#Russia just threatened military consequences against #Finland and #Sweden.

[500miles]

To be fair, the head of the Ukrainian state being of the Jewish faith does not mean there arent plenty brigades of the Ukrainian army with strong neo Nazi elements. I’ve read plenty about that, not just from RT, from journalists and leftist commentators…whether or not it is fake news which has its origins in Russia I couldn’t say with 100% accuracy, can anyone?
My limited understanding is that after Crimea, Ukrainian militias were thrown together in absence of a strong Ukrainian military. A lot of these militias were headed up by neo nazis - invitably given gun toting being a nazi pass time world wide.

Ukraine then absorbed those militias to strengthen thier military.

The idea that Russia is a force for anti facist good is demonstrably nonsense anyway, given their domestic policies.

[Jones28]

https://twitter.com/eskelinen_antti/status/1497224856265531394

Antti Eskelinen
@eskelinen_antti
#Russia just threatened military consequences against #Finland and #Sweden.

I didn't understand a word of that tbh.

[hibsbollah]

The idea that Russia is a force for anti facist good is demonstrably nonsense.

Obviously, thats not even debatable.

[Stairway 2 7]

I think the azov battalion is down to just 1000 people now. There is 450,000 Jews in the Ukraine I doubt they will be delighted at getting Russian freedom

[LunasBoots]

I didn't understand a word of that tbh.

If they join NATO they will face the wrath of Russia

[grunt]

The Lincoln Project team - who developed anti-Trump propaganda videos -- have started to turn their attention to Putin


https://youtu.be/aoTwryf-peQ

[Hibrandenburg]

It's all hypothetical as to what would have happened had European reconstruction been done differently post cold War through the 90s and 00s.

If you read Putin's comments over the last few days though, NATO is something of an afterthought. It's mentioned but the bulk of the content is classic ethnic nationalism. The madness of the break up of the Soviet Union, false states with no historic merit, uniting and liberating ethnic Russians, expanding Russian influence, Russia's entitlement as a great nation etc etc. We have heard that rhetoric a few times before in Europe and it rarely ends well.

Would a buffer zone of neutrality have dampened that desires in Putin and his inner circle? Or would they have simply found another pretext for invasion and expansion? Answers on a postcard.

I'm not blind to the hypocrisy of much of the west. Many in the US, UK and elsewhere would be quite happy to turn a blind eye or support action like this if it was them doing it. However it doesn't mean we have to rationalise or enter a plea in mitigation for Russia. Ukraine, Poland, Latvia, Estonia etc etc are sovereign states and have the right to seek integration where they want, not where Moscow dictates. Klitschko said it in his speech yesterday: 'we have chosen democracy, we have chosen Europe'.

I struggle to see what could have been done differently after the break up of the Soviet Union. After 45 years of occupation most of these former Warsaw Pact countries regained their cultural identity, not without some teething problems but most of them started to prosper within a very short time scale. EU and NATO expansion was pretty much unavoidable once these countries started trading with the west making the idea of any kind of buffer zone unrealistic.

Like you, listening to a deranged Putin and his perverted understanding of historical borders and anthropological perspective in the region made me shudder and just confirms my belief that it's his personal place in history that he's now trying to write. If there's one thing that history has taught us, then it's that an ideological dictator is much more dangerous than your run of the mill power hungry one.

[Stairway 2 7]

Billy Bragg
@billybragg
Sad to hear a few left wingers say invasion is justified because Ukraine is run by ‘fascists’, echoing Putin’s claim that he wants to ‘de-nazify’ Ukraine. His use of ‘genocide’ as an excuse is as dodgy as the 45 minutes claim Blair cooked up to justify invading Iraq

[LunasBoots]

Russia not making the gains many thought he would currently

[Stairway 2 7]

KnowSomething
@KnowS0mething
Ukraine has one of the largest Jewish communities in the world, nearly 400,000 Jews live there. Both its President and Prime Minister are Jewish.

In Ukraine's last election, far-right parties combined for 2.15% of the vote, failing to win a single seat in parliament
Of course, antisemitism is still a problem in Ukraine—it is in pretty much every country. Neo-Nazis do exist on the fringe.

But to claim—as Putin and his apologists have—that Ukraine's neo-Nazi problem is so bad that Russia is justified in invading it to "denazify" it is insane.

If Russia wants to take a stand against neo-Nazis, that's great. It should start off by taking a look at its own backyard.

This Pew Research Center poll provides some additional perspective to the wild claims being made about Ukraine

https://twitter.com/KnowS0mething/status/1496917291719872512

I want to be clear that it's horrible that Ukraine incorporated the Azov Batallion into its National Guard. I hate the fact that Ukraine gave them any legitimacy.

But a Batallion of a few hundred people should not be used to smear a country of 44 million people.

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Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·12m

U.K. has stated that Russian forces are trying to open a new route of advance towards Kyiv after having been beaten back by the Ukrainian Army at the city of Chernihiv

[Stairway 2 7]

Bye dad

Oscar Rickett
@oscarrickettnow
·
21m
The daughter of Kremlin press secretary Dmitry Peskov has just posted “No to war

[hibsbollah]

I struggle to see what could have been done differently after the break up of the Soviet Union. After 45 years of occupation most of these former Warsaw Pact countries regained their cultural identity, not without some teething problems but most of them started to prosper within a very short time scale. EU and NATO expansion was pretty much unavoidable once these countries started trading with the west making the idea of any kind of buffer zone unrealistic.

Like you, listening to a deranged Putin and his perverted understanding of historical borders and anthropological perspective in the region made me shudder and just confirms my belief that it's his personal place in history that he's now trying to write. If there's one thing that history has taught us, then it's that an ideological dictator is much more dangerous than your run of the mill power hungry one.

Agree with almost all of that, but although EU expansion for these countries was probably inevitable, NATO membership wasn't. The implication of what that meant for Russian security was clear and obvious, I just refer back to the Yale lecture a few pages back. Some of these predates Putin and is from Yeltsin's time, when he wasnt drowning in a bottle of vodka he was on good terms with the West.

[Hibrandenburg]

Uk anti tank missles are currently blowing up Russian tanks and armoured vehicles. The sanctions from the uk go further than any nation. The number one way to cripple the oligarchs is banning swift, but some nations are fighting against it.

Uk gov should be toppled for pandemic response, school dinners, increased poverty, ppe to friends, brexit destroying us for the next decades. But our response in support of Ukraine has been superb. Our javelins and anti tanks might be the only way to hold the south

Implementing sanctions that damage you more than your target is just stupid.

[lapsedhibee]

Implementing sanctions that damage you more than your target is just stupid.

But if that was true, wouldn't it imply that Brexit was just stupid? :confused:

[AugustaHibs]

Germany and Italy stopping sanctions on swift going ahead.


Standing on the wrong side of history

[Hibernian Verse]

Germany and Italy stopping sanctions on swift going ahead.


Standing on the wrong side of history

Not for the first time.

[Stairway 2 7]

Implementing sanctions that damage you more than your target is just stupid.

Don't be ridiculous it will hurt Germany as much as Russia. There are other ways to set up payments of gas it seems. War hurts everyone financially but you want to be on the right side of history.

The German finance minister has just said they are considering it after multinational pressure

[AugustaHibs]

Not for the first time.

Exactly my thinking.

Trump is a total ****bag but he mentioned a couple years ago that something needs to be done about Germany’s reliance on Russia and it fell on deaf ears…. Maybe the only thing I agreed with him about.

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Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·33mIntel, Dell and Lenovo corporations have suspended shipments of products to Russia.

Time for Microsoft and Apple to take the same decision

ELINT News
@ELINTNews
·
38m
#BREAKING: US official says Russian forces have not taken any population centres in Ukraine, do not have air superiority over Ukraine yet- senior defence official via Reuters

[CropleyWasGod]

Implementing sanctions that damage you more than your target is just stupid.

Will the UK Government compensate those companies who lose out as a result of the SWIFT action? Now that would be decisive, and might sway Germany. :agree:

[hibsbollah]

I hope and trust we will be taking more than our fair share of Ukrainian refugees.


Not looking good on that front.

the Guardian 8m ago

The UK is no longer accepting visa applications from Ukrainians stuck in the country.
This means there is no safe and legal route for them to seek asylum in Britain unless they have close family in the UK unless they have British relatives.
Labour MP Nadia Whittome tweeted to say the move was “completely inhumane”.
The UN aid agencies said Russia’s invasion could drive up to 5 million people to flee abroad.

[Northernhibee]

Not looking good on that front.

the Guardian 8m ago

The UK is no longer accepting visa applications from Ukrainians stuck in the country.
This means there is no safe and legal route for them to seek asylum in Britain unless they have close family in the UK unless they have British relatives.
Labour MP Nadia Whittome tweeted to say the move was “completely inhumane”.
The UN aid agencies said Russia’s invasion could drive up to 5 million people to flee abroad.

Absolutely barbaric. Tory *******s.

[Hibrandenburg]

Garry Kasparov
@Kasparov63
·
12h
Germany still refusing to send weapons to Ukraine after funding Putin's war machine for years, or even to remove Russia from SWIFT. Neutrality between good and evil sides with evil, always

Having had grandparents who were responsible for around 10 million Russian deaths, the idea of adding to that tally is not one most contemporary Germans find appealing.

[Kato]

What is 'everything possible' though? Putin's been planning for this invasion for many months, plenty time for him to ensure sanctions will have next to no effect on him (or at least not for a good number of months or even years, by which time maximum damage will have been inflicted on Ukraine's military assets and a regime change implemented). The US and Europe effectively gave him the nod by making clear last year that Ukraine was a long way from either NATO or EU membership (ie confirming to Putin that nobody would fight with Ukraine if he went ahead with full-scale invasion). Biden doesn't need Russia's gas, hence the reluctance to go beyond indignant speeches and threats of supposedly 'crippling' sanctions.

The terrifying reality is that neither diplomacy nor economic sanctions are alternatives to war when faced with a bampot like Putin.

Putin has been planning it for years not months. While America has been arguing about melanin and gawping at Trump, the UK has been whining about pounds, ounces and migrants, the EU have been gawping at the UK's tantrums, he's been biding his time.

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[Hibrandenburg]

If I had a company that was owed a lot of money by a Russian company, I'm not sure how I would feel about their being removed from SWIFT.

For Governments, it's less about the money and more about the political fallout.

Implementing sanctions that damage you more than who they're aimed at is stupid, it's like agreeing at football that no more goals are allowed when you're 2-1 down.

[grunt]

But if that was true, wouldn't it imply that Brexit was just stupid? :confused::top marks

[Hibrandenburg]

I’ll be surprised if German position holds on swift. I would think public opinion will force them to change soon.


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I agree with this, that way the German government can say they're doing what their electorate demand from them.

[Stairway 2 7]

Implementing sanctions that damage you more than who they're aimed at is stupid, it's like agreeing at football that no more goals are allowed when you're 2-1 down.

Saying again it will harm Germany more than Russia is beyond daft. Latvia gets a higher percentage of its power from Russia than Germany. Its vice president was pleading Germany to put lives before money and agree to ban swift
25587

[He's here!]

Germany and Italy stopping sanctions on swift going ahead.


Standing on the wrong side of history

Along with its equally irritating flipside (standing on the right side of history) this must be one of the most absurd phrases in common usage. Utterly meaningless but beloved of those seeking to assert their moral uprightness. Nobody can know the course of history.

Sits alongside phrases like 'standing shoulder to shoulder with Ukraine'...which, unless you're planning to head over to the war zone and join the armed struggle, means next to nothing.

[Hibrandenburg]

Has there been a list of the individuals sanctioned?

Call me sceptical, but why am I not convinced that the UK government will go after the actual people it should be going after.

I had to laugh at Johnson labelling Putin as a serial liar in the House yesterday, I'll bet opposition MPs were having to bite their tongues.

[WeeRussell]

Along with its equally irritating flipside (standing on the right side of history) this must be one of the most absurd phrases in common usage. Utterly meaningless but beloved of those seeking to assert their moral uprightness. Nobody can know the course of history.

Sits alongside phrases like 'standing shoulder to shoulder with Ukraine'...which, unless you're planning to head over to the war zone and join the armed struggle, means next to nothing.

You don’t agree that there are very blatant right and wrong sides of many historical events?

[Hibrandenburg]

It's barely been 24 hours.

I wonder what every other country in Europe has done so far?

We will look after those who need it.

Germany and Poland are already accepting refugees and are organising accommodation.

[Stairway 2 7]

Per earlier video

Jason Groves
@JasonGroves1
· 1h
Russian foreign ministry spokesman Maria Zakharova warns Finland and Sweden they would 'face some military and political consequences' if they tried to join Nato

[AugustaHibs]

Along with its equally irritating flipside (standing on the right side of history) this must be one of the most absurd phrases in common usage. Utterly meaningless but beloved of those seeking to assert their moral uprightness. Nobody can know the course of history.

Sits alongside phrases like 'standing shoulder to shoulder with Ukraine'...which, unless you're planning to head over to the war zone and join the armed struggle, means next to nothing.


Eh?

[Stairway 2 7]

Luis Garicano
@lugaricano
Who are the heartless people bankrolling this invasion?

WE ARE. This morning, Europe is asking Russia for more Gas. Gazprom is sending it.

Putin must be having a laugh with these "sanctions

[grunt]

Along with its equally irritating flipside (standing on the right side of history) this must be one of the most absurd phrases in common usage. Utterly meaningless but beloved of those seeking to assert their moral uprightness. Nobody can know the course of history.

Sits alongside phrases like 'standing shoulder to shoulder with Ukraine'...which, unless you're planning to head over to the war zone and join the armed struggle, means next to nothing.
This post should possibly be in the Pet Peeves thread ...

[grunt]

I found this a helpful article, timely for me at least.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/vicarious-trauma-tips_l_6217a88de4b03d0c80350fc1



How To Ease Some Of The Vicarious Trauma You May Be Feeling Right Now

[Stairway 2 7]

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·

2mUkrainian leadership is here. We are all here. We are in Kyiv. We are defending Ukraine,

says Ukrainian President as Kyiv braces for a difficult night



Japanese bulk carrier MV Namura Queen has been hit by a Russian rocket while at anchor off Yuzhne.

[WhileTheChief..]

Germany and Poland are already accepting refugees and are organising accommodation.

Poland border them, it' a bit easier!!

We've already said we will help and have troops in neighbouring countries to assist.

Remember, it's not a competition between countries to see who can help the most. We will be working closely with the Poles and Germans and everyone else too.

[Stairway 2 7]

The Russian invasion of Ukraine ends once and for all an era of illusions about the west’s relations with Moscow,

says Polish PM Morawiecki

[Stairway 2 7]

Emma Burrows
@EJ_Burrows
EXCLUSIVE: I have been given a copy of document issued today by Russian Ministry of Health. It indicates Russia is anticipating a massive medical emergency & has ordered health organisations to immediately identify medical staff ready to relocate & work

The document from Russian Ministry of Health is signed by deputy health minister and dated today 25 February. It asks medical organisations to be ready ‘to be promptly involved in activities aimed at saving lives & preserving the health of people in Russia

The document from the Russian Ministry of Health makes it clear these medics will be deployed somewhere as ‘reimbursement of travel and accommodation expenses, as well as payment of labour is expected from funds from the Federal Centre of Medical Disasters

Document from Ministry of Health shows Russia is clearly preparing for a major medical event where doctors have to be drafted from across the country. The letter is signed by Deputy Health Minister Plutnitsky

This order from Russian Ministry of Health has been issued as Russian forces attempt to advance on Kyiv and other cities in Ukraine

[Ozyhibby]

Visegrád 24 [emoji1086][emoji1126][emoji1200][emoji1217]@visegrad24·

2mUkrainian leadership is here. We are all here. We are in Kyiv. We are defending Ukraine,

says Ukrainian President as Kyiv braces for a difficult night



Japanese bulk carrier MV Namura Queen has been hit by a Russian rocket while at anchor off Yuzhne.

Japan isn’t in NATO. Maybe they could send over their Air Force and enforce a no fly zone?
I know it’s a ridiculous suggestion unfortunately.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Troops relocated to Eastern Hungary serve both defense and humanitarian purposes.

Our troops will help incoming refugees and prevent foreign forces from entering Hungary,

says Defense Minister Benkő

[Stairway 2 7]

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·

3mThe U.S. met with China over three months to present intelligence showing Russia’s troop buildup near Ukraine and to urge Beijing to help avert war.

Chinese officials rebuffed the U.S. and shared the information with Moscow, say U.S. officials

[Stairway 2 7]

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·6m

German Defense Minister Lambrecht fears that Putin is now no longer afraid of attacking NATO partners

[patch1875]

Abramovich’s daughter puts up an anti Putin message.

https://instagram.com/stories/sofiaabramovich97/2781303963925553318?utm_medium=copy_link

[Stairway 2 7]

Joe
@JoePS12
1000 Russian soldiers killed today
That’s more deaths - in a single day - than the *total* number of British army personnel who were killed in both Afghanistan and Iraq over 14 years. The Ukraine military is holding out better than expected and this war is going to get very unpopular with the Russian people

[Pretty Boy]

Abramovich’s daughter puts up an anti Putin message.

https://instagram.com/stories/sofiaabramovich97/2781303963925553318?utm_medium=copy_link

There is probably a bit of media and social media manipulation at play but one thing I notice from the vox pops in Moscow and elsewhere in Russia is differing generational attitudes towards the invasion.

It could just be those under 30, probably even 40, have no real concept of the Soviet Union or the cold war as a lived experience and don't view the west with the same suspicion as their elders.

[WhileTheChief..]

^^I was in Lithuanian 20 years or so ago.

There was a marked difference in their population between the generations. The younger ones were full of life and hope. The older ones seemed beaten, downtrodden even.

The difference was clear as day.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.businessinsider.com/european-union-approves-russian-asset-freeze-includes-putin-lavrov-2022-2?r=US&IR=T


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[Fuzzywuzzy]

Russia Today

"Russia will restrict access to Facebook from February 25, its media regulator, Roskomnadzor, said on Friday, citing a decision by prosecutors. Moscow has accused the US tech giant Meta of having breached “fundamental human rights” by blocking Russian accounts, including those of major news agencies."

Was going to happen at some point

[WeeRussell]

Poland border them, it' a bit easier!!

We've already said we will help and have troops in neighbouring countries to assist.

Remember, it's not a competition between countries to see who can help the most. We will be working closely with the Poles and Germans and everyone else too.

I agree it’s definitely not a competition - but people are correct to point out if they think there are areas where some should be doing more or different.

What makes it easier to have a more open policy to refugees if you border them out of interest? I might just be being naive but I would have thought that although it’s obviously easier for the refugees themselves to reach a bordering country, there is nothing holding back the likes of the UK at least being open and welcoming to refugees.

[Stairway 2 7]

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·5mNATO to provide air defense systems to Ukraine and more weapons, says NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg

Serbia is NOT joining sanctions against Russia

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·21mUnofficial: Italy seems to be changing position on excluding Russia from SWIFT

[CropleyWasGod]

Russia Today

"Russia will restrict access to Facebook from February 25, its media regulator, Roskomnadzor, said on Friday, citing a decision by prosecutors. Moscow has accused the US tech giant Meta of having breached “fundamental human rights” by blocking Russian accounts, including those of major news agencies."

Was going to happen at some point

They've also been banned from Eurovision. That has to hurt.:greengrin

[Hibrandenburg]

Along with its equally irritating flipside (standing on the right side of history) this must be one of the most absurd phrases in common usage. Utterly meaningless but beloved of those seeking to assert their moral uprightness. Nobody can know the course of history.

Sits alongside phrases like 'standing shoulder to shoulder with Ukraine'...which, unless you're planning to head over to the war zone and join the armed struggle, means next to nothing.

:applause:

[Stairway 2 7]

Russia Today

"Russia will restrict access to Facebook from February 25, its media regulator, Roskomnadzor, said on Friday, citing a decision by prosecutors. Moscow has accused the US tech giant Meta of having breached “fundamental human rights” by blocking Russian accounts, including those of major news agencies."

Was going to happen at some point

Too many people getting western news rather than rt

[Stairway 2 7]

Just Germany to go. The pressure is coming from absolutely everywhere so hopefully not long

Dmytro Kuleba
@DmytroKuleba
Call with my Italian counterpart
@luigidimaio
. Full solidarity with Ukraine. My colleague assured me that Italy will support banning Russia from SWIFT

[Ozyhibby]

They've also been banned from Eurovision. That has to hurt.:greengrin

It was fun while it lasted but our chance of finishing last is now back up to 100%.


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[degenerated]

They've also been banned from Eurovision. That has to hurt.:greengrinWill Celtic not just take their place after being parachuted in from Europa conference league :greengrin

[Ozyhibby]

Just Germany to go. The pressure is coming from absolutely everywhere so hopefully not long

Dmytro Kuleba
@DmytroKuleba
Call with my Italian counterpart
@luigidimaio
. Full solidarity with Ukraine. My colleague assured me that Italy will support banning Russia from SWIFT

I was confident it would happen but thought the Germans would cave before the Italians.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Jeff Green Stand with Ukraine
@CllrJeffGreen

Wow - #Latvia Deputy Prime Minister message to Germany, Hungary & Italy - ‘if you are not prepared to spill blood then at least spill money

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/pickardje/status/1497270460396015621?s=21


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[CropleyWasGod]

It was fun while it lasted but our chance of finishing last is now back up to 100%.


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Vlad was always a big fan. Firmly in the closet, of course, but that topless photo astride the bear....... :not worth

[Stairway 2 7]

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·2mBREAKING:

NATO has activated its NATO Response Force, marking the first time in history that the alliance will use it in a deterrence and defence role.

Up to 40.000 troops could arrive in Central Eastern Europe in a few days.

8000 of them would be US soldiers

[Ozyhibby]

UK and EU now sanctioning Putin and Lavrov. Looks like Russia will be kicked out of swift before the weekend is over.


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[Hibrandenburg]

Jeff Green Stand with Ukraine
@CllrJeffGreen

Wow - #Latvia Deputy Prime Minister message to Germany, Hungary & Italy - ‘if you are not prepared to spill blood then at least spill money

Nothing wrong with not wanting to spill blood.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497274563037704197

Russian ambassadors car battered by protesters in Dublin

[Fuzzywuzzy]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497274563037704197

Russian ambassadors car battered by protesters in Dublin

Not battered enough

[Stairway 2 7]

https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1497268737455575042


Woofers
@NotWoofers
The Ukrainian Army has just released video of destroyed Russian MT-LBs and a BMP-2 in Konotop, Sumy Oblast

Russian forces in disarray, aftermath of battle at Konotop where Ukraine seems to have gained the upper hand. #Russia #Ukraine

[Since90+2]

Not battered enough

Eh, no.

We don't want to start encouraging vigilante attacks on Russian individuals, whether official or not, around the world.

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Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·16mZmiyiniy island (Snake Island) is under Ukrainian control again.

13 border guards died yesterday defending it from a Russian warship

[Hibrandenburg]

UK and EU now sanctioning Putin and Lavrov. Looks like Russia will be kicked out of swift before the weekend is over.


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Pressure within Germany now building, CDU leader Merz who said last week that closing the Swift system would be like an economical atom bomb for the world's economy now saying that Germany should not say no to the EU's recommendation.

[The Baldmans Comb]

Russia seem to be taking over Ukraine at an astonishing speed from all directions and aren't far off the Government district in the Kiev.

Its a highly impressive military performance in just a few days and seems extraordinary well planned.

No wonder the Ukraine leadership are trying to get some sort of peace talks going giving into all the Russian demands about NATO membership and neutrality.

Its a pretty forlon hope and the Americans are going to have to fly them out soon as the puppet government the Russians put in place wont be showing them any favors.

[Stairway 2 7]

Jane Lytvynenko
@JaneLytv
·
56m
Attacking hospitals is a war crime

Centre for Information Resilience
· 1h
Geolocation of footage showing heavy fighting in Melitopol in Zaporizhia Oblast, Ukraine. The building attached is marked on its front as a hospital and the building seen is listed on Google Maps as the Oncology Center. Location: 46.839817, 35.371137.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/statu

[HibsGW]

Russia seem to be taking over Ukraine at an astonishing speed from all directions and aren't far off the Government district in the Kiev.

Its a highly impressive military performance in just a few days and seems extraordinary well planned.

No wonder the Ukraine leadership are trying to get some sort of peace talks going giving into all the Russian demands about NATO membership and neutrality.

Its a pretty forlon hope and the Americans are going to have to fly them out soon as the puppet government the Russians put in place wont be showing them any favors.

Are they? Most media I’ve seen is suggesting that there’s been lots of Russian deaths today and that they’re not making as much progress as expected.

[Stairway 2 7]

Neil Hauer
@NeilPHauer
·
1h
Talking to a 25-year old girl in the subway shelter in Kyiv. When asked what her plans were for the coming days, she said immediately "make Molotov cocktails

[Stairway 2 7]

Russia seem to be taking over Ukraine at an astonishing speed from all directions and aren't far off the Government district in the Kiev.

Its a highly impressive military performance in just a few days and seems extraordinary well planned.

No wonder the Ukraine leadership are trying to get some sort of peace talks going giving into all the Russian demands about NATO membership and neutrality.

Its a pretty forlon hope and the Americans are going to have to fly them out soon as the puppet government the Russians put in place wont be showing them any favors.

Putin is furious at the slow speed. Thousands of Russian deaths with a David and goliath man power and weapons advantage

And the bit about peace talks and demands is just pish, they will fight after their country falls it seems

[Pretty Boy]

With so much disinformation and the pace at which things are moving it's hard to really know what is happening but it doesn't seem like this is a triumphant march into Kyiv for the Russian Army.

Is this enough of a bloody nose, even if they win out in the end, to keep Putin quiet for a while? I can't imagine the thought of targeting a NATO state and instigating a response, however reluctant, from the US, UK, France, Japan et al is particularly appealing to many in Russia right now. There's anywhere between 1000 and 3000 bereaved spouses, siblings and parents in Russia tonight and that number is going to grow.

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Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
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Russian tennis player Andrey Rublev writes "No War Please" on the camera filming him during Dubai Championships #Russia #Ukraine

https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1497276732264665103

[Hibrandenburg]

https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1497268737455575042


Woofers
@NotWoofers
The Ukrainian Army has just released video of destroyed Russian MT-LBs and a BMP-2 in Konotop, Sumy Oblast

Russian forces in disarray, aftermath of battle at Konotop where Ukraine seems to have gained the upper hand. #Russia #Ukraine

Darkness is the friend of the Ukrainian forces. They'll be getting intelligence information from the US and have better night vision technology. Fatigue and the sheer numbers they're facing is their biggest threat.

[The Tubs]

Russia seem to be taking over Ukraine at an astonishing speed from all directions and aren't far off the Government district in the Kiev.

Its a highly impressive military performance in just a few days and seems extraordinary well planned.

No wonder the Ukraine leadership are trying to get some sort of peace talks going giving into all the Russian demands about NATO membership and neutrality.

Its a pretty forlon hope and the Americans are going to have to fly them out soon as the puppet government the Russians put in place wont be showing them any favors.


I think they’ll accept martyrdom.

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Володимир Зеленський@ZelenskyyUa·57m

Strengthening sanctions, concrete defense assistance and an anti-war coalition have just been discussed with @POTUS. Grateful to 🇺🇸 for the strong support to 🇺🇦

[SaulGoodman]

Russia finding out the hard way that they’re aged military won’t hold up.

It unfortunately shows the effectiveness of nuclear weapons as a deterrent as that is all Russia has.