Ukraine

[cabbageandribs1875]

Le Monde (centre left paper) has given today's editorial to a Ukrainian politician who is absolutely slaying Macron. Right From the beginning, Frances policies have failed Ukraine. There should be an english translation tab on the site.
Ukraine : « Depuis le début du conflit, la position de la France a dérouté les Ukrainiens » (lemonde.fr) (https://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/2022/06/15/oksana-mitrofanova-depuis-le-debut-du-conflit-la-position-de-la-france-a-deroute-les-ukrainiens_6130343_3232.html)


imagine if Le Pen had won recently :hmmm:anyway



However, the regular telephone talks between Mr Macronand Mr Putin reflect his desire to maintain a space for cooperation with Russia, which is contrary to the Atlanticist objective of isolating the Kremlin. Moreover, the dialogue maintained by Emmanuel Macron has not led to any positive results.


i suspect a few other states will welcome the 'making up' with Putin as soon as possible after this "peacekeeping" Genocide war ends, like one poster mentioned several pages ago i've had feelings for a few weeks now Putin is going to end up getting huge swathes of land back for Mother Russia.

[Ozyhibby]

imagine if Le Pen had won recently :hmmm:anyway



However, the regular telephone talks between Mr Macronand Mr Putin reflect his desire to maintain a space for cooperation with Russia, which is contrary to the Atlanticist objective of isolating the Kremlin. Moreover, the dialogue maintained by Emmanuel Macron has not led to any positive results.


i suspect a few other states will welcome the 'making up' with Putin as soon as possible after this "peacekeeping" Genocide war ends, like one poster mentioned several pages ago i've had feelings for a few weeks now Putin is going to end up getting huge swathes of land back for Mother Russia.

I wouldn’t be so sure. Ukraine seem to be making progress in the south. Russia not been able to manoeuvre much at all recently.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

I wouldn’t be so sure. Ukraine seem to be making progress in the south. Russia not been able to manoeuvre much at all recently.


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lets hope you're correct :( not many,if ANY, Ukrainian success stories reported recently

[Stairway 2 7]

lets hope you're correct :( not many,if ANY, Ukrainian success stories reported recently

It's weird the news 2 weeks ago was full of gloom as Russia had pushed about 10 miles west in the Donbas and surrounded 3 sides of severodonetsk. Ukraine has pushed a bigger distance in the south towards Kherson, if they take that they control the water for crimea. To be honest there is not many stories full stop the last weeks, it's a war of artillery now.

[superfurryhibby]

It looks western unity around Ukraine isn't quite as unified as has been made out on here at times. I have posted several times about UK supermarkets importing fuel of Russian origins, whatever route it takes to get here, who knows, but it's pretty damning.

There is division around a whole range of key issues, the sanctions, provision of heavy weaponry and the best way to end the conflict. There's a lot of conflicting interests and no end in sight. Still the war goes on.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1537447789306646528?s=21&t=p805ep62gyTgZgL2_Vskzw

France, Germany and Italy in favour of EU for Ukraine.[emoji106]


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WarMonitor3
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Ukrainian forces north west of Kherson are closing in on the outskirts.
It is reported from some forward positions they can see Russian positions there

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Better late than never

NEW YORK, June 16 (Reuters) - Coca-Cola HBC AG (CCH.L) and its existing customers in Russia are "in the process of depleting stock," Coca-Cola Co (KO.N) said in a statement.

Once the company's stock is depleted, Coca-Cola HBC will "no longer produce or sell Coca-Cola or other brands of the Coca-Cola Company in Russia," Coca-Cola said.

Atlanta-based Coca-Cola owns about 23% of Switzerland-based Coca-Cola HBC, according to Refinitiv's Eikon. Coca-Cola HBC bottles and sells Coke beverages exclusively in its 29 markets, which includes Greece, Italy and countries in Eastern Europe, according to its website.

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@nexta_tv
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⚡️🇬🇧#UK to give #Ukraine more than 20 M109 self-propelled howitzers

"We're shipping more than twenty 155mm self-propelled guns that we've bought from the international market and refurbished. They're already coming in and they're much longer ranged,"
@BWallaceMP
stated

[cabbageandribs1875]

It's weird the news 2 weeks ago was full of gloom as Russia had pushed about 10 miles west in the Donbas and surrounded 3 sides of severodonetsk. Ukraine has pushed a bigger distance in the south towards Kherson, if they take that they control the water for crimea. To be honest there is not many stories full stop the last weeks, it's a war of artillery now.


i hope they do hit this bridge but i wonder how Putin will spin this, he stole that land from Ukraine several years ago but will he claim weapons from the west have hit(his) Russia

We’ll use Western weapons to destroy bridge linking Russia to Crimea, threatens Ukraine general (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/we-ll-use-western-weapons-to-destroy-bridge-linking-russia-to-crimea-threatens-ukraine-general/ar-AAYxTCE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bcd963da76164ae0b9122dce7f84852e)

A top Ukrainian general has threatened to use Western weapons to blow up a bridge linking mainland Russia to the occupied Crimea. (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/07/jailed-dissidents-luxury-houses-vladimir-putin-has-kept-crimea/)

Maj Gen Dmytro Marchenko, who has been leading the defence of the Mykolaiv region in Ukraine’s south since the start of the war, told the Krym.Realii website on Wednesday night that Kyiv considered the 227-metre Kerch bridge a legitimate target.

“This will be our number one target,” he said when asked what Ukraine would do with the new advanced weapons it has been seeking from the West.

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i hope they do hit this bridge but i wonder how Putin will spin this, he stole that land from Ukraine several years ago but will he claim weapons from the west have hit(his) Russia

We’ll use Western weapons to destroy bridge linking Russia to Crimea, threatens Ukraine general (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/we-ll-use-western-weapons-to-destroy-bridge-linking-russia-to-crimea-threatens-ukraine-general/ar-AAYxTCE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bcd963da76164ae0b9122dce7f84852e)

A top Ukrainian general has threatened to use Western weapons to blow up a bridge linking mainland Russia to the occupied Crimea. (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/07/jailed-dissidents-luxury-houses-vladimir-putin-has-kept-crimea/)

Maj Gen Dmytro Marchenko, who has been leading the defence of the Mykolaiv region in Ukraine’s south since the start of the war, told the Krym.Realii website on Wednesday night that Kyiv considered the 227-metre Kerch bridge a legitimate target.

“This will be our number one target,” he said when asked what Ukraine would do with the new advanced weapons it has been seeking from the West.

I don't think anyone cares what Putin says or spins anymore. French foreign minister said yesterday that Ukraine has the right to take back all its land including crimea. I think the west has a real embarrassment about how it acted post crimea annexation

[Ozyhibby]

i hope they do hit this bridge but i wonder how Putin will spin this, he stole that land from Ukraine several years ago but will he claim weapons from the west have hit(his) Russia

We’ll use Western weapons to destroy bridge linking Russia to Crimea, threatens Ukraine general (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/we-ll-use-western-weapons-to-destroy-bridge-linking-russia-to-crimea-threatens-ukraine-general/ar-AAYxTCE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bcd963da76164ae0b9122dce7f84852e)

A top Ukrainian general has threatened to use Western weapons to blow up a bridge linking mainland Russia to the occupied Crimea. (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/07/jailed-dissidents-luxury-houses-vladimir-putin-has-kept-crimea/)

Maj Gen Dmytro Marchenko, who has been leading the defence of the Mykolaiv region in Ukraine’s south since the start of the war, told the Krym.Realii website on Wednesday night that Kyiv considered the 227-metre Kerch bridge a legitimate target.

“This will be our number one target,” he said when asked what Ukraine would do with the new advanced weapons it has been seeking from the West.

I doubt they have the capability to take out the bridge even with all the new kit.


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[heretoday]

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1537447789306646528?s=21&t=p805ep62gyTgZgL2_Vskzw

France, Germany and Italy in favour of EU for Ukraine.[emoji106]


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Why should they be allowed to jump the queue? There's countries that have been waiting well over ten years to join the EU.

[Stairway 2 7]

Why should they be allowed to jump the queue? There's countries that have been waiting well over ten years to join the EU.

Probably the tens of thousands of soldiers committing genocide and trying to wipe the nation from the map. The have been asking for years to be a eu member but that was seen as inciting Russia.

It will be candidate status along with Georgia and Moldova. A big move towards security for these 3 nations, with the biggest chance of Russian invasion

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/uaweapons/status/1537696927827079170?s=21&t=VQj06EqQvtWu_aitfHM55w
Another Russian ship sank.[emoji122]


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[PeeJay]

Why should they be allowed to jump the queue? There's countries that have been waiting well over ten years to join the EU.

Fair question, and there is already annoyance to say the least about this amongst certain Balkan states, but this is only a small step towards membership candidate status, one that still has to be approved (likely to be though): decades will pass before Ukraine is in a situation to join the EU as a member, it has to meet all the requirements and criteria.

[heretoday]

Fair question, and there is already annoyance to say the least about this amongst certain Balkan states, but this is only a small step towards membership candidate status, one that still has to be approved (likely to be though): decades will pass before Ukraine is in a situation to join the EU as a member, it has to meet all the requirements and criteria.

I would think so. Of course this is a gesture of solidarity at this time.

One wonders how long a newly independent Scotland would have to wait as a candidate given that some have been on the list for so long.

[Hibrandenburg]

I don't think anyone cares what Putin says or spins anymore. French foreign minister said yesterday that Ukraine has the right to take back all its land including crimea. I think the west has a real embarrassment about how it acted post crimea annexation

I'd go further and say they have the right to hit Russia. Why should they have to fight with one arm tied behind their back? Putin started this war with large scale backing from the Russian people, Russian public opinion obviously won't change until they start paying a price too.

[Ozyhibby]

I would think so. Of course this is a gesture of solidarity at this time.

One wonders how long a newly independent Scotland would have to wait as a candidate given that some have been on the list for so long.

I would say that we would have the quickest route due to already being EU compliant.


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[Stairway 2 7]

I would think so. Of course this is a gesture of solidarity at this time.

One wonders how long a newly independent Scotland would have to wait as a candidate given that some have been on the list for so long.

Macron said in normal circumstances Ukraine wouldn't get it, but it's obviously an emergency. Scotland would pass every one of the check list. There is also the fact it could be said we never voted to leave

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NEXTA
@nexta_tv

‼️#Ukraine will not be able to host Eurovision-2023

This decision was made by the European Broadcasting Union, referring to "current circumstances in which security guarantees cannot be fulfilled"

The statement says that UK may become a possible venue for #Eurovision next year

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Alex Kokcharov
@AlexKokcharov
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The European Commission has recommended #Ukraine and #Moldova be granted #EU candidate status, but that #Georgia must first meet certain conditions before receiving candidate status

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@CanadianUkrain1
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46m
Residents of #Kherson region are urged to evacuate. It's necessary in order to make it easier for #ZSU to liberate #Kherson region. Currently, the only organized way to leave #Kherson region is through occupied #Crimea, but it's better than staying. It'll get very hot very soon.

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Boris back in Kyiv today. Its not going to deflect much or make much news as everyone has already been now

Pretty much this
Sam Freedman
@Samfr
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If Johnson's political desperation keeps pushing him into giving more help to Ukraine then that's a great silver lining as far as I'm concerned

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Financial times

Putin claims Russia has weathered sanctions better than Europe
Remarks contrast with data from western institutions, which estimate blow to EU has been less severe



The OECD recently slashed its forecast for the eurozone’s expansion this year from the 4.3 per cent it had estimated in December to 2.6 per cent, and from 2.5 per cent to 1.6 per cent for 2023.

For Russia, the downgrades were much steeper. Its economy is expected to contract 10 per cent this year, according to the OECD, a downgrade from the 1.9 per cent of growth anticipated in December. The projection for 2023 was cut from 1.6 per cent*growth to a 4.1 per cent contraction.

Putin said that Russia had taken inflation under control at 17.6 per cent and boasted that it was below levels in some European countries. This is only true for Estonia and Lithuania, where energy prices have soared after the Baltics moved to cut off supplies of Russian energy once the war began. The eurozone average is, at 8.1 per cent, less than half the Russian rate

[Ozyhibby]

https://carnegieendowment.org/eurasiainsight/87341

Article on Putin’s growing isolation within Russia.


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[Bridge hibs]

https://carnegieendowment.org/eurasiainsight/87341

Article on Putin’s growing isolation within Russia.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIve read a lot of stuff like that, add in that he is dying, etc, whilst he is still breathing he remains a constant threat to the world and of course his own people. If his own folk within were disliking him so much then I dont think for one minute someone would pop a bullet in his head. No-one has thus far despite all the constant news of their economy being crushed. If he was as weak as has been suggested someone would have taken advantage to attempt to stabilise his country, that seems a million miles away from happening

[Ozyhibby]

Ive read a lot of stuff like that, add in that he is dying, etc, whilst he is still breathing he remains a constant threat to the world and of course his own people. If his own folk within were disliking him so much then I dont think for one minute someone would pop a bullet in his head. No-one has thus far despite all the constant news of their economy being crushed. If he was as weak as has been suggested someone would have taken advantage to attempt to stabilise his country, that seems a million miles away from happening

The infrastructure he has built round himself along with the degradation of all the old political structures makes removing him difficult. That’s not the same as him being powerful. His grip will be weakening in different parts of the country in different ways as people look for fixes to their problems that he can’t provide.
Despite what they would like people to believe, their economy is taking a bigger hit that any we have ever faced in the UK. And it may be the same again next year. Their inflation is double what ours is and their interest rates 5 times what ours is. And times are tough here, imagine how bad it is there.
Yes, oil and gas revenues are up but remember that they were always used to fund the state and that is going to need just about every penny of that to keep going. Not to mention all the skimming off the top that has to happen to keep things going.
Russia is in a terrible situation now. They have lost the war. Their army is at a standstill while suffering massive casualties daily. Forward movement is impossible. They can’t retreat because Putin would not survive a loss. And they face an enemy getting stronger and re-supplying quicker than they can.
At some point very soon Ukraine is going to make a move on Kherson. When that falls, all bets are off on how willing the Russians are able to hold back the advancing Ukrainians. They were not that able north of Kyiv.


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[Bridge hibs]

The infrastructure he has built round himself along with the degradation of all the old political structures makes removing him difficult. That’s not the same as him being powerful. His grip will be weakening in different parts of the country in different ways as people look for fixes to their problems that he can’t provide.
Despite what they would like people to believe, their economy is taking a bigger hit that any we have ever faced in the UK. And it may be the same again next year. Their inflation is double what ours is and their interest rates 5 times what ours is. And times are tough here, imagine how bad it is there.
Yes, oil and gas revenues are up but remember that they were always used to fund the state and that is going to need just about every penny of that to keep going. Not to mention all the skimming off the top that has to happen to keep things going.
Russia is in a terrible situation now. They have lost the war. Their army is at a standstill while suffering massive casualties daily. Forward movement is impossible. They can’t retreat because Putin would not survive a loss. And they face an enemy getting stronger and re-supplying quicker than they can.
At some point very soon Ukraine is going to make a move on Kherson. When that falls, all bets are off on how willing the Russians are able to hold back the advancing Ukrainians. They were not that able north of Kyiv.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThanks for the reply Ozy, my post wasnt aimed at you mate. Im just frustrated by all the contradictory news feeds that I read (although try to avoid) but they are headline grabbing. The depressing ones stating Putin is threatening to use his Satan nuke, then others saying he is dying, then others saying their economy is disintegrating with other contradicting that, Im concerned simply because that nutter is still in power, I cant imagine how those Ukranians are feeling seeing their country torn apart by that ****er. Surely with the superiority of intelligence nowadays that ****er could get a bullet through his skull 🤬

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Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban supports the recommendation of the #European Commission on granting #Ukraine the status of a candidate for accession to the European Union, said the head of the press service of the head of the #Hungarian government, Bertalan Havasi

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Lithuania has decided to block all goods going in or our Kaliningrad.


@nexta_tv
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#Lithuania's decision to blockade the #Kaliningrad region is unprecedented and a violation of absolutely everything", declared #Putin's talking head #Peskov

"if cargo transit to the #Kaliningrad region is not restored in full in the near future, Russia reserves the right to act to protect its national interests

[Ozyhibby]

Lithuania has decided to block all goods going in or our Kaliningrad.


@nexta_tv
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#Lithuania's decision to blockade the #Kaliningrad region is unprecedented and a violation of absolutely everything", declared #Putin's talking head #Peskov

"if cargo transit to the #Kaliningrad region is not restored in full in the near future, Russia reserves the right to act to protect its national interests

That’s a significant escalation.[emoji51]


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[Stairway 2 7]

That’s a significant escalation.[emoji51]


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When Russia puts all its reserves into taking severodonetsk and can't after 3 weeks, countries get emboldened.

Lithuania was one of the first to send heavy weapons also

[Ozyhibby]

When Russia puts all its reserves into taking severodonetsk and can't after 3 weeks, countries get emboldened.

Lithuania was one of the first to send heavy weapons also

I think Kazakhstan are also looking to take advantage of the situation as well.


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[PeeJay]

Lithuania has decided to block all goods going in or our Kaliningrad.


@nexta_tv
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#Lithuania's decision to blockade the #Kaliningrad region is unprecedented and a violation of absolutely everything", declared #Putin's talking head #Peskov

"if cargo transit to the #Kaliningrad region is not restored in full in the near future, Russia reserves the right to act to protect its national interests

Not quite - Lithuania has not decided to block anything - EU Commission sanctions are what the country is following, this is the EU in action, not a lone Lithuanian action.

"Lithuania did this..." is Russian propaganda nothing more -

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Better late than never. Germany send heavy weapons to Ukraine, brilliant 👏

Oleksii Reznikov
@oleksiireznikov

Ukraine government official
· 3h
Panzerhaubitze 2000 are finally part of 155 mm howitzer arsenal of the Ukrainian artillery.
I appreciate all efforts of my colleague 🇩🇪 #DefMin Christine Lambrecht in support of 🇺🇦.

[Keith_M]

I see Vlad is getting stroppy with Lithuanua about access to 'Kaliningrad'.

Funny that he goes on endlessly about historical borders, and Ukraine having no right to parts of it's current territory, but doesn't apply the same principles to Königsberg.

[Hibrandenburg]

I see Vlad is getting stroppy with Lithuanua about access to 'Kaliningrad'.

Funny that he goes on endlessly about historical borders, and Ukraine having no right to parts of it's current territory, but doesn't apply the same principles to Königsberg.

Good point, also Kaliningrader Klopse just doesn't sound very appetizing. :wink:

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One things for sure it won't be with military means seeing its a nato country.

visegrad24
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Russia has delivered an ultimatum Lithuania if it does not immediately resume full rail cargo transit between Kaliningrad & the rest of Russia.

Peskov talks about Russia taking “retaliatory measures

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/bbcstever/status/1539150853428461570?s=21&t=tDqr40Hn3y6vSvyf3GDyqA

Short video on the effects of sanctions.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/1539427449397813250?s=21&t=0_umwu3OR-I2RfETJ8mXMA
Footage close to the Russian ammo dump that got hit yesterday.


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Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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Lithuania has extended the blockade on goods heading for Kaliningrad sanctioned by the EU to also include road transports and not just rail.

The U.S. has announced that it is backing Lithuania in its spat with Russia over the blockade

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https://rsf.org/en/exclusive-rsf-investigation-death-maks-levin-information-and-evidence-collected-indicates

Following a visit to Ukraine from 24 May to 3 June to investigate Ukrainian photo-journalist Maks Levin’s death, Reporters Without Borders (RSF) is releasing a report with information and evidence indicating that Levin and his friend and bodyguard were executed by Russian soldiers in a forest near Kyiv on 13 March, possibly after being interrogated and even tortured

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-declare-national-energy-alert-russia-economic-attack/

Europe gas supply about to be cut.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://english.nv.ua/opinion/a-catastrophe-for-putin-opinion-ukraine-news-russia-invasion-ukraine-50251664.html


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UKR ministry of defence put out a video thanking the uk for the nlaws, featuring Gerrard and Bowie. I fought the NLAW and the NLAW won

https://mobile.twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1539671779312033793

[Renfrew_Hibby]

https://mobile.twitter.com/siberian_times/status/1539973214813978624?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Major power plant in Eastern Siberia is up in flames. Huge swathes of both the Buryat Republic and the city of Chita in yhe neighbouring region are completely without power.
Both Buryatia and Chita in particular are strong recruiting areas for the military and regiments from these areas have been responsible for some of the worst atrocities in the war.
Perhaps it's only a coincidence but a fresh round of sabotage attacks would be spot on.

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Володимир Зеленський
@ZelenskyyUa
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3m
Ukraine government official
Sincerely commend EU leaders’ decision at #EUCO to grant 🇺🇦 a candidate status. It’s a unique and historical moment in 🇺🇦-🇪🇺 relations. Grateful to
@CharlesMichel
,
@vonderleyen
and EU leaders for support. Ukraine’s future is within the EU. #EmbraceUkraine

[Bostonhibby]

Amazed to see that the civilised nations, including us, are only now considering banning Russian gold exports, looks like we've continued to offer any Russian that can afford this method of wealth transfer an ongoing way around some sanctions?

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Russia still just firing into residential buildings. I watched a video of her in the stretcher and it turned my stomach

https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1540978525854916608

@visegrad24
While the rest of us Europeans enjoyed a night out yesterday and had a good night’s sleep, Russia fired 14 missiles on Kyiv overnight, hitting residential buildings.

Here, rescue workers are pulling out a screaming 7-year-old girl from beneath the rubble.

Her father was killed

[Bridge hibs]

Russia still just firing into residential buildings. I watched a video of her in the stretcher and it turned my stomach

https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1540978525854916608

@visegrad24
While the rest of us Europeans enjoyed a night out yesterday and had a good night’s sleep, Russia fired 14 missiles on Kyiv overnight, hitting residential buildings.

Here, rescue workers are pulling out a screaming 7-year-old girl from beneath the rubble.

Her father was killedThats gutting to read, the Russians are just relentless, I thought Ukraine had been pushing them back and had Putins boys on the run, not good news, *******s 🤬

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Thats gutting to read, the Russians are just relentless, I thought Ukraine had been pushing them back and had Putins boys on the run, not good news, *******s 🤬

No one said there was much pushing either way in anything I've read. For months they have been saying the ranged war of artillery would start and they were right. Minimul movement anywhere in a month can't see much in the next month. Russia has more weapons and ammo, UKR is getting better weapons

[Glory Lurker]

Amazed to see that the civilised nations, including us, are only now considering banning Russian gold exports, looks like we've continued to offer any Russian that can afford this method of wealth transfer an ongoing way around some sanctions?

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I was amazed by this too. The energy hesitancy is out in the open, but how many other areas are there where we're (as in the west, not just UK) aren't near doing all we can?

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I hope everyone follows Gibraltars move

@nexta_tv
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Superyacht "Axioma" of oligarch Dmitry Pumpyansky will be sold at auction on the decision of the Supreme Court of #Gibraltar.

The yacht of the #Russian billionaire was detained in Gibraltar as part of the sanctions, and now the court decided to sell it

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Russia defaults on its foreign debt for the first time since 1918

— Bloomberg

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Lithuania 👏

@nexta_tv

⚡️ #Lithuania plans to veto the European Commission's decision to allow unrestricted transit of #Russian goods through the EU.

Currently, the European Commission is preparing a document allowing the transportation of sub-sanctioned Russian goods to #Kaliningrad.

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Russia hit a shopping mall this afternoon with a number of missles. Reports up to a thousand people were in there shopping

https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1541426481435385856

@visegrad24
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11m
2 Russian missiles struck a shopping mall in Kremenchuk in broad daylight today.

Reports of many people stuck inside in the burning inferno, with desperate screams heard coming from the thick smoke.

The mayor says there are multiple casualties

[Bostonhibby]

I was amazed by this too. The energy hesitancy is out in the open, but how many other areas are there where we're (as in the west, not just UK) aren't near doing all we can?Still not very quick at declining donations from super rich Russians who seem to have acquired rights of residency in the UK without too much trouble or media scrutiny?

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Zelenskyy:

"The occupiers launched a missile strike at shopping center. There were more than a thousand civilians. The mall is on fire, rescuers are extinguishing fire, number of victims is unimaginable

Ukrainian sources now claiming the shopping centre was hit by TWO missiles - which reduces the possibility of an accidental strike to pretty much zero. They knew exactly what they were targeting

@CanadianUkrain1
Early estimates of more than a HUNDRED dead at #Kremenchuk shopping centre

[LeithMike]

Zelenskyy:

"The occupiers launched a missile strike at shopping center. There were more than a thousand civilians. The mall is on fire, rescuers are extinguishing fire, number of victims is unimaginable

Ukrainian sources now claiming the shopping centre was hit by TWO missiles - which reduces the possibility of an accidental strike to pretty much zero. They knew exactly what they were targeting

@CanadianUkrain1
Early estimates of more than a HUNDRED dead at #Kremenchuk shopping centreState terrorism.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/gjstathakis/status/1541523245245124609?s=21&t=Ybrsx_sB5-YU001azd_6Hg

Lovely reading.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Jens Stoltenberg
@jensstoltenberg
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We now have an agreement that paves the way for #Finland & #Sweden to join #NATO. I thank Presidents @RTErdogan & @Niinisto & @SwedishPM for the constructive spirit that made this historic decision possible

[Ozyhibby]

https://samf.substack.com/p/paralysis-in-moscow?sd=pf

Long article on how Putin’s authority is ebbing away in Russia.


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[Glory Lurker]

At the start of this, much was made of the west's, and particularly America's, intelligence on Putin. I hope that the ramping up.of NATO readiness isn't based on that.

[Stairway 2 7]

At the start of this, much was made of the west's, and particularly America's, intelligence on Putin. I hope that the ramping up.of NATO readiness isn't based on that.

They have always wanted to base themselves in Poland ect, but it was seen as provocation. Now they can do it and claim defense. They know Russia put a boot on nato soil, even if he had any spare

[Glory Lurker]

They have always wanted to base themselves in Poland ect, but it was seen as provocation. Now they can do it and claim defense. They know Russia put a boot on nato soil, even if he had any spare

You're a good egg, Stairway. Kent I could rely on you or Ozy to give me a less worrying analysis!

[stu in nottingham]

Form an orderly queue please.

Deranged.

Bernie Ecclestone says he would 'take a bullet' for 'first class' Vladimir Putin as he defends war in Ukraine
https://news.sky.com/story/bernie-ecclestone-says-he-would-take-a-bullet-for-first-class-vladimir-putin-as-he-defends-war-in-ukraine-12642942

[Ozyhibby]

I see the Russians have been forced off Snake island once again. About another month or so and I think Ukraine will start to claw back some territory.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/samagreene/status/1542468816382435328?s=21&t=EaGz8PG-COylO_uP5_9Y4w

Thread explaining how the west is now at war.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220630/f2e686f0c94df60a202e07c818789a11.jpg

That has to be a significant hit to their economy?


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[Stairway 2 7]

@visegrad24
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Ukraine will receive:

- 600 tanks
- 500 artillery systems
- 600 000 shells
- 140 000 anti-tank weapons

Speaking on the final day of the NATO summit, Biden revealed that the U.S.has gathered a coalition of 50+ countries to donate new weapons to Ukraine

[Stairway 2 7]

@visegrad24
BREAKING:

The European Commission has been pushing Lithuania, on behalf of Berlin, for 2 weeks to lift the Kaliningrad blockade, but Lithuania hasn’t budged so far

The pressure stems from Berlin’s fears of escalation according to Spiegel.

Berlin wants a solution before July 10

https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/bruessel-und-berlin-wollen-transitverbot-nach-kaliningrad-beenden-a-4b6663c0-4a99-4eed-aa63-cbaacbfb610b

[Lendo]

@visegrad24
BREAKING:

The European Commission has been pushing Lithuania, on behalf of Berlin, for 2 weeks to lift the Kaliningrad blockade, but Lithuania hasn’t budged so far

The pressure stems from Berlin’s fears of escalation according to Spiegel.

Berlin wants a solution before July 10

https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/bruessel-und-berlin-wollen-transitverbot-nach-kaliningrad-beenden-a-4b6663c0-4a99-4eed-aa63-cbaacbfb610b

Good on Lithuania. Don’t give an inch (although war in the Baltic’s might make my holiday to Latvia in September a little tricky)

[Hibrandenburg]

@visegrad24
BREAKING:

The European Commission has been pushing Lithuania, on behalf of Berlin, for 2 weeks to lift the Kaliningrad blockade, but Lithuania hasn’t budged so far

The pressure stems from Berlin’s fears of escalation according to Spiegel.

Berlin wants a solution before July 10

https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/bruessel-und-berlin-wollen-transitverbot-nach-kaliningrad-beenden-a-4b6663c0-4a99-4eed-aa63-cbaacbfb610b

I thought it was EU sanctions on Russia was why Lithuania were blocking the enclave.

[Stairway 2 7]

I thought it was EU sanctions on Russia was why Lithuania were blocking the enclave.

Yes Lithuania are saying they are following that, but Germany Kaliningrad to be exempt. Lithuanian president said last night she will not back down and in fact is going to go further, steel on 10/7 coil 1/10 gas 1/12.

State's bordering near Russia have been the ones wanting to hit harder all the way along. France and Germany said no tanks Poland sent 400. US and UK said no planes Slovakia sent 10. Lithuania sent heavy weapons first, Finland air defenses ect

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1543143491009658880?s=21&t=mi1C_HXjxGwFhOF2RfAkvg

There has been a lot of this the last couple of weeks. Ukraine using the long range advantage they have over Russia now to good effect.


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[Stairway 2 7]

http://archive.today/ZMgCH

Washington Post reporter in with the Ukrainian HIMARS operators

[Ozyhibby]

http://archive.today/ZMgCH

Washington Post reporter in with the Ukrainian HIMARS operators

That makes great reading.


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[LeithMike]

That makes great reading.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIndeed, thanks for these updates.

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[Stairway 2 7]

@visegrad24
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The European Commission has prepared a deal under which Russian goods currently embargoed from transiting through Lithuania to Kaliningrad will be allowed through again

Der Spiegel writes that Vilnius believes the EU is backing down to threats & that it will only embolden Moscow

[tamig]

@visegrad24
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The European Commission has prepared a deal under which Russian goods currently embargoed from transiting through Lithuania to Kaliningrad will be allowed through again

Der Spiegel writes that Vilnius believes the EU is backing down to threats & that it will only embolden Moscow

What other way is there to see it?

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1543346140443283468?s=21&t=zIBNysSJsW3jb4xuFODm5A
Things kicking off in Uzbekistan. Usually Russia will help them suppress any dissent but they might be a bit busy just now.


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[Stairway 2 7]

UKR had their biggest night of bombing the Russians so far in the war. Belgorod and kursk inside Russian were hit with missles and occupied melotipol in occupied UKR hit with HIMARS.

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1543462963406848002

https://mobile.twitter.com/cjdrew94/status/1543420490949206016

[Stairway 2 7]

The story of the battle of Dohnbas and what could happen, one of the longest battles of the last 100 years so far

https://mobile.twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1543491060684492800

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.politico.eu/article/olaf-scholz-urges-free-transit-for-russian-goods-to-kaliningrad/

Germany’s Scholz urges free transit for Russian goods to Kaliningrad
German chancellor said that ‘we are dealing here with traffic between two parts of Russia,’ suggesting that EU sanctions should not apply

[Stairway 2 7]

visegrad24
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Slovakia will donate its MiG-29 fighter jets & T-72M tanks to Ukraine.

The announcement was made by PM Eduard Heger today.

He said he won’t give any details at the moment.

Slovakia has 12 MiG-29s & 30 T-72 tanks.

Czechia will patrol Slovakia’s skies from Sep

[Smartie]

https://www.politico.eu/article/olaf-scholz-urges-free-transit-for-russian-goods-to-kaliningrad/

Germany’s Scholz urges free transit for Russian goods to Kaliningrad
German chancellor said that ‘we are dealing here with traffic between two parts of Russia,’ suggesting that EU sanctions should not apply

They should be allowed free transit between those 2 parts of Russia as soon as free, safe, uninterrupted transit is possible between all parts of Ukraine.

[Glory Lurker]

I read some media stuff recently about Kaliningrad's population being Europe-facing (I know, I know, how much do we believe of what we're told?). Perhaps allowing imports across Lithuania is intended to cast the EU as the good player in the hope, based on intelligence we'll not be told about yet, that Kaliningrad revolts?


That's what I hope. It's probably as it seems though, a cautious de-escalation by the EU. I feel for Lithuania. I've been really impressed by their bravery, and a bit surprised by it. I might be wrong (it does happen from time to time :-) ) but I think I read that Lithuania was the main recipient of Russians when the USSR relocated citizens to undermine any lingering nationalism in the Baltic states. They've been admirably resolute.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/mdmitri91/status/1544262785923784704?s=21&t=0XMRSJwxpUrXcLsn3UTyBw

Ukrainian artillery start to have an effect.[emoji106]


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[Stairway 2 7]

6 out of 7 cruise missiles fired at dnipro were shot down last night. Nasams anti air from the US must have arrived

JayinKyiv
Arestovich last night said when asked why we are suddenly shooting down so many more Russian cruise missles..
"We have something new".

Like 80% now. Before 15%

[WhileTheChief..]

I read some media stuff recently about Kaliningrad's population being Europe-facing (I know, I know, how much do we believe of what we're told?). Perhaps allowing imports across Lithuania is intended to cast the EU as the good player in the hope, based on intelligence we'll not be told about yet, that Kaliningrad revolts?


That's what I hope. It's probably as it seems though, a cautious de-escalation by the EU. I feel for Lithuania. I've been really impressed by their bravery, and a bit surprised by it. I might be wrong (it does happen from time to time :-) ) but I think I read that Lithuania was the main recipient of Russians when the USSR relocated citizens to undermine any lingering nationalism in the Baltic states. They've been admirably resolute.

I was in Lithuania not long after they got their independence.

The younger generation were full of hope and optimism for the future. It was tangible.

The older generation just looked down trodden and defeated after decades of scientists control.

It’s a fantastic country. As are the other Baltic states. Such a shame that Russia didn’t follow a similar path back in the 90s.

[Moulin Yarns]

I was in Lithuania not long after they got their independence.

The younger generation were full of hope and optimism for the future. It was tangible.

The older generation just looked down trodden and defeated after decades of scientists control.

It’s a fantastic country. As are the other Baltic states. Such a shame that Russia didn’t follow a similar path back in the 90s.

Independence is a good thing? Are you OK? Sit down before you get dizzy. 😂😂😂

[Keith_M]

Independence is a good thing? Are you OK? Sit down before you get dizzy. 😂😂😂


It's only ever good for certain countries.

[Ich liebe Deek]

I was in Lithuania not long after they got their independence.

The younger generation were full of hope and optimism for the future. It was tangible.

The older generation just looked down trodden and defeated after decades of scientists control.

It’s a fantastic country. As are the other Baltic states. Such a shame that Russia didn’t follow a similar path back in the 90s.

Lithuania are doing everything they can to support Ukraine as they know they are next on the list.The older generation are acutely aware what Russia are capable of and fear the worst.The country has given the GTF to China and Russia in the last 12 months.This is at odds with how Lithuanians go about their business as they are extremely introverted and mildly patriotic.Says a lot how united they are to stop Putin’s nonsense

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/21stcenturywire/status/1544473671925829632?s=21&t=MveNiUZ5DNniiNCAaPzEPA

Not directly Ukraine but a knock on effect. Sri Lanka has now collapsed. Complete anarchy.


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[Just Alf]

https://twitter.com/21stcenturywire/status/1544473671925829632?s=21&t=MveNiUZ5DNniiNCAaPzEPA

Not directly Ukraine but a knock on effect. Sri Lanka has now collapsed. Complete anarchy.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkReading it Sri Lankans are tweeting the video is fake news and not even taken in Sri Lanka.

They do say there's some unrest pointed at the government though :agree:

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/srilankatweet/status/1545675128612454400?s=21&t=mXQ8Q6S0QWi0gCzLcZDVzA

Sri Lankans appear to have stormed the presidential palace.


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[tamig]

https://twitter.com/srilankatweet/status/1545675128612454400?s=21&t=mXQ8Q6S0QWi0gCzLcZDVzA

Sri Lankans appear to have stormed the presidential palace.


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The president’s not there though. The place is a shambles.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/1545698210533888000?s=21&t=FfvG7VYqqT7F_25cfJiUeg

Hope the Russians are watching.


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[WhileTheChief..]

^^^Thats a fantastic vid.

As it says, a lesson for all the ****bag rulers around the world.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1546006901862944769?s=21&t=y_FEVazosnPBalg3QAqPiw

This is making a massive difference over the last couple of weeks. Russian ammo stores have been getting hit at a rate of about three a day.


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[Stairway 2 7]

After Brussels suggested Lithuania compromise, the instead ramp up


@nexta_tv
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#Lithuania has expanded restrictions on the transit of goods through its territory to #Kaliningrad, Reuters reports.

As of today, cement, timber, alcohol and alcohol-based industrial chemicals are banned, a #Lithuanian customs official said

[WeeRussell]

It's only ever good for certain countries.

As in every country that’s ever went independent in the past 😁

Only not good for one certain country 👍

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/phillipspobrien/status/1546745849534988289?s=21&t=VBpMMMFK7tO31EczRDKCLg
Interesting thread on the trouble the Russians are having since the arrival of the HIMARS rocket systems.


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[Stairway 2 7]

I've unfortunately seen the pictures of this pram and the dead mother and daughter from Russian missile attacks today. Here they were happy just before. Awful

https://mobile.twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1547574529026732036

@officejjsmart
Unbelievable!

You’ve likely seen the photos of the girl and her mom who died in Vinnytsia today…

the mom had posted this video to social media minutes before they both were killed by Russian 🇷🇺 State Terrorism

[Bridge hibs]

****ing absolutely sickening, is there no special secret assassins skilled or brave enough to take that ****er Putin out 🤬

[Keith_M]

****ing absolutely sickening, is there no special secret assassins skilled or brave enough to take that ****er Putin out 🤬


Funnily enough that was my exact thought after watching the latest attack on the news today.

[cabbageandribs1875]

death toll 23 killed in Vinnytsia

Ukraine war: 23 killed in Russian rocket attack on Vinnytsia - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62163071)

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

****ing absolutely sickening, is there no special secret assassins skilled or brave enough to take that ****er Putin out 🤬

Putin is a cowardly ****bag.

I hope I live to see the **** die.

[Haymaker]

Putin is a cowardly ****bag.

I hope I live to see the **** die.

This. :agree:

[Bridge hibs]

Putin is a cowardly ****bag.

I hope I live to see the **** die.Yep, do what they done to Saddam, string the ****er from a rope 🤬

[Hibernian Verse]

Yep, do what they done to Saddam, string the ****er from a rope 🤬

That would be too quick.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/euromaidanpress/status/1547914533787709440?s=21&t=as6BiN3WIFeuWQ-mFvpocQ

Big jump in capability.[emoji122][emoji122]


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[Peanut Shaz]

I had a Ukranian lady in my work today. I obviously can't give any personal details but she told her story to one of our staff and she had to leave the room to compose herself after hearing the story. Heartbreaking stuff.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1548011079124455424

@KevinRothrock
Yikes. Exiled U.S. conspiracy theorist John Dougan has apparently interviewed Aiden Aslin, the captured UK volunteer soldier now awaiting execution in the DNR. This footage of Aslin singing the Russian national anthem is chilling. Presumably he hopes this will keep him alive?

Crucial to realize that Paul Urey, another captured British volunteer (an aid worker, not a combatant like Aslin), has already died in captivity — due to “illness and stress,” says the DNR

@vkaramurza
Public humiliation and, in fact, torture of a British prisoner of war, which is filmed and joyfully broadcast by Russian channels. This regime has already reached the terminal stage of insanity

[Stairway 2 7]

Bonnie wee girl

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62181726

On a strip of grass in front of the smashed, charred remains of the Jubilee department store there is a pink pushchair lying on its side, smeared with blood.

It belonged to a little girl called Liza.

The four-year-old was one of three young children killed on Thursday when Russian missiles hit the centre of Vinnytsia

[Ozyhibby]

Bonnie wee girl

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62181726

On a strip of grass in front of the smashed, charred remains of the Jubilee department store there is a pink pushchair lying on its side, smeared with blood.

It belonged to a little girl called Liza.

The four-year-old was one of three young children killed on Thursday when Russian missiles hit the centre of Vinnytsia

Horrific.
I’m hoping that this recent spate of attacking cities is a sign of desperation from the Russians. The Ukrainians are inflicting heavy losses on them just now and their artillery fire is grinding to a halt as the Ukrainians keep hitting their ammo storage sites.
The intro of long range accurate missiles from the Americans have really changed the battlefield now.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://wartranslated.com/pro-russian-source-on-the-inevitability-of-the-mobilisation-in-russia/


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1544495879884886017?s=21&t=Lke9VhK5H2m3eVbZ5sNefA

https://twitter.com/trenttelenko/status/1544472420484091905?s=21&t=Lke9VhK5H2m3eVbZ5sNefA

Couple of really interesting threads on the change in momentum in Ukraine the last few weeks. Russians are struggling with logistics again since the introduction of MLRS systems. Great to read.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

Ukraine war: Zelensky fires security chief and top prosecutor - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62202078)


President Volodymyr Zelensky has fired the head of Ukraine's security agency (SBU) and the prosecutor general, citing many cases of treason in the two powerful organisations.

He said more than 60 former employees were now working against Ukraine in Russian-occupied areas.


A total of 651 collaboration and treason cases had been opened against law enforcement officials, he added.

[Ozyhibby]

https://nadinbrzezinski.medium.com/logistics-collapse-945984f5d48e

Hard to read as I think not an English speaker but also gives a good insight into Russian logistics problems.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-19/russia-ukraine-winter-putin-zelenskyy/101247828


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/threshedthought/status/1550450333545123841?s=21&t=a-_tkPixiswIhFwyQsR1jA

Kherson is the place to watch next month.


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[DaveF]

https://twitter.com/threshedthought/status/1550450333545123841?s=21&t=a-_tkPixiswIhFwyQsR1jA

Kherson is the place to watch next month.


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I see both sides are about to sign a deal to resume grain exports from black sea ports. I wonder how long this will last (if they ever sign it)

[Jones28]

A deal to export grain has been agreed between Russia and Ukraine to export grain, a huge boost for global food markets.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/euromaidanpr/status/1550586379859640320?s=21&t=RLwjys_0mAuFatGXbJgmxw

Russia trying to get troops out of Kherson?


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[Ozyhibby]

https://kyivindependent.com/national/ukraines-military-russia-attacks-port-in-odesa

Russia attacking ports even after yesterdays deal.


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[Stairway 2 7]

https://kyivindependent.com/national/ukraines-military-russia-attacks-port-in-odesa

Russia attacking ports even after yesterdays deal.


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They bombed a civilian corridor, why would they treat grain differently

[Bridge hibs]

They bombed a civilian corridor, why would they treat grain differentlyWhy did they sign the agreement, surely they could just have said bolt we are gonna continue to act like pure evil ***** and will continue to make innocent people suffer and threaten world peace whilst we continue to be absolute murdering *****

This **** about Putin dying etc, Im beginning to think this is a bluff, hope tae **** its not and he suffers a slow painful ****ing end, **** 🤬

[Smartie]

Why did they sign the agreement, surely they could just have said bolt we are gonna continue to act like pure evil ***** and will continue to make innocent people suffer and threaten world peace whilst we continue to be absolute murdering *****

This **** about Putin dying etc, Im beginning to think this is a bluff, hope tae **** its not and he suffers a slow painful ****ing end, **** 🤬

By signing the agreement they can fool folk into believing they’re prepared to be reasonable, then continue to act like ***** in order to give them the best chance of achieving whatever their objectives are.

There are many reasons why the phrase “don’t negotiate with terrorists” exists.

The reason there is a grain crisis and food shortage is Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. They couldn’t care less about their own people, let alone starving Africans. Why does anyone think they’re going to be reasonable here?

[Rumble de Thump]

Everyone working at, and associated with, the Kremlin has shown themselves to be completely untrustworthy every step of the way. Their words are meaningless. Russia has made it clear that the only way they can be removed is by force. With the training and weapons the Ukrainians are receiving it is only a matter of time before Ukraine takes back control of the south. As long as the weapons keep coming, Ukraine will eventually take back all of its land. There is no way the rest of the world can allow Russia to gain from this war in any way. Doing so would just be an invitation for Russia to do the same or worse again in the future.

[Stairway 2 7]

6 fired 4 shot down, must have been Romania or somewhere as Russia said it wasn't them...

@nexta_tv
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Russia has told Turkey that it has "nothing to do" with the missile strike on the port of Odesa and is "carefully investigating" situation, Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar said after talks with Russia.

Earlier, the United Nations and the European Union condemned the strike


https://mobile.twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1550851742778146816
@OAlexanderDK
"Russia denied involvement"

I wonder who could have fired these Kalibr cruise missiles at Odesa. Clearly Russia would never lie.

I have not seen any Algerian, Chinese, Indian or Vietnamese submarines entering the Black Sea though

[Stonewall]

Why did they sign the agreement, surely they could just have said bolt we are gonna continue to act like pure evil ***** and will continue to make innocent people suffer and threaten world peace whilst we continue to be absolute murdering *****

This **** about Putin dying etc, Im beginning to think this is a bluff, hope tae **** its not and he suffers a slow painful ****ing end, **** 🤬

They don’t want to fall out with influential countries in Africa and Asia.

[PeeJay]

I wonder who could have fired these Kalibr cruise missiles at Odesa. Clearly Russia would never lie.



Seems Russia has just realized that it did indeed fire the missiles, after all ... and "regime change" is now the reason for the special operation apparently ...

[judas]

Everyone working at, and associated with, the Kremlin has shown themselves to be completely untrustworthy every step of the way. Their words are meaningless. Russia has made it clear that the only way they can be removed is by force. With the training and weapons the Ukrainians are receiving it is only a matter of time before Ukraine takes back control of the south. As long as the weapons keep coming, Ukraine will eventually take back all of its land. There is no way the rest of the world can allow Russia to gain from this war in any way. Doing so would just be an invitation for Russia to do the same or worse again in the future.

I think you are wrong.

Russia will keep what it has taken.

There will be a high level trade off somewhere else.

[Ozyhibby]

I think you are wrong.

Russia will keep what it has taken.

There will be a high level trade off somewhere else.

I think it’s you who are wrong. Russia can’t afford to keep up this level of warfare and there is no way it can hope to hold what they have.
Before the end of August you will start to see Russia lose territory.


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[Smartie]

I wouldn't like to bet which way it will go.

Both sides have their weaknesses. It will probably come down to the appetite the West have to continue to support Ukraine and I don't think it's as unwavering as many would wish.

It'll likely end in a fudge which will allow Russia to regroup and continue their crusade through Europe at a later date, probably when they've got their political figures of choice in Downing Street and the White House.

[Ozyhibby]

I wouldn't like to bet which way it will go.

Both sides have their weaknesses. It will probably come down to the appetite the West have to continue to support Ukraine and I don't think it's as unwavering as many would wish.

It'll likely end in a fudge which will allow Russia to regroup and continue their crusade through Europe at a later date, probably when they've got their political figures of choice in Downing Street and the White House.

I don’t think that there is now a route to that. The populations in Europe are united in their stance. Joe Biden is safe for another 2.5 years and I don’t see Russia lasting that long.


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[Bristolhibby]

By signing the agreement they can fool folk into believing they’re prepared to be reasonable, then continue to act like ***** in order to give them the best chance of achieving whatever their objectives are.

There are many reasons why the phrase “don’t negotiate with terrorists” exists.

The reason there is a grain crisis and food shortage is Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. They couldn’t care less about their own people, let alone starving Africans. Why does anyone think they’re going to be reasonable here?

I may be being stupid, can the grain not be trained or lorried into say Romania then disembarked from there.

Like I said I’m no grain logistician.

J

[lapsedhibee]

I may be being stupid, can the grain not be trained or lorried into say Romania then disembarked from there.


That's a lorra lorra lorryloads.

[Ozyhibby]

I may be being stupid, can the grain not be trained or lorried into say Romania then disembarked from there.

Like I said I’m no grain logistician.

J

There just isn’t the capacity for that.


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[Smartie]

I may be being stupid, can the grain not be trained or lorried into say Romania then disembarked from there.

Like I said I’m no grain logistician.

J

I asked this many pages ago...

I think it's down to capacity and logistics - the Ukrainian ports are geared up for piling vast quantities of the stuff onto boats and taking it from there. Any other method of transport (rail, road) has issues of only being able to take so much at any time, rendering it hugely inefficient. Jacking prices up isn't an easy option as we're talking about much of being sold in vast quantities at low price to countries who aren't exactly awash with cash.

[Smartie]

I don’t think that there is now a route to that. The populations in Europe are united in their stance. Joe Biden is safe for another 2.5 years and I don’t see Russia lasting that long.


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The populations may be united now but nobody's cold yet.

I think we'll be unpleasantly surprised by how little people care about genocide and the like when next winter starts to bite.

Therefore I think we need to be giving full support to Ukraine to kick back very forcefully, very soon.

[makaveli1875]

The populations may be united now but nobody's cold yet.

I think we'll be unpleasantly surprised by how little people care about genocide and the like when next winter starts to bite.

Therefore I think we need to be giving full support to Ukraine to kick back very forcefully, very soon.

We better hope and pray for a mild winter , don’t see this ending anytime soon

[cabbageandribs1875]

Taiwan has held it's largest Military Drills

Taiwan's Tsai inspects largest military drill simulating China attack (kyodonews.net) (https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2022/07/f642a646eed4-taiwans-tsai-inspects-largest-military-drill-simulating-china-attack.html)

The exercises, the island's largest involving all military branches, are intended to test Taiwan's ability to fend off a Chinese invasion by simulating attacks from sea, air and land.


the Chinese Government will be keeping a very close eye on events in Ukraine....along with all the sanctions :agree:

[LewysGot2]

Distressing documentary about the plight of kids with disabilities in Ukraine on BBC and highlighted on the news. Simply harrowing to see young people and adults locked away in basic accommodation with just the area of a child’s cot to occupy - tied to the bed or their seats. Getting washed once a week and really only existing. Terribly terribly sad. In fact, just heartbreaking 💔

Documentary saying it’s like Romania when the regime fell and it’s one of the barriers for Ukraine in terms of being permitted to join the EU. The staff clearly were under huge stress but there seemed to be a severe lack of knowledge and understanding as they were saying you “can’t do anything for children like this” and it’s just the bad luck they’ve had. They’re being discovered as other agencies go in to help the war displaced population.

Expert was saying it is typical of the approach of the former Soviet block in the past but that Ukraine seems not to have had the will to prioritise improving things despite 30 years of independence from Moscow.

It’s on iPlayer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/disability-62226636

[gbhibby]

Distressing documentary about the plight of kids with disabilities in Ukraine on BBC and highlighted on the news. Simply harrowing to see young people and adults locked away in basic accommodation with just the area of a child’s cot to occupy - tied to the bed or their seats. Getting washed once a week and really only existing. Terribly terribly sad. In fact, just heartbreaking 💔

Documentary saying it’s like Romania when the regime fell and it’s one of the barriers for Ukraine in terms of being permitted to join the EU. The staff clearly were under huge stress but there seemed to be a severe lack of knowledge and understanding as they were saying you “can’t do anything for children like this” and it’s just the bad luck they’ve had. They’re being discovered as other agencies go in to help the war displaced population.

Expert was saying it is typical of the approach of the former Soviet block in the past but that Ukraine seems not to have had the will to prioritise improving things despite 30 years of independence from Moscow.

It’s on iPlayer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/disability-62226636
Reminds me of some of the images we saw many years ago from Dnipro. Nothing seems to have changed over the years.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/kylejglen/status/1552198068925341696?s=12

Ukraine hammered the main bridge across the river at Kherson last night again. Almost impossible for Russia to re supply troop in the city now. They will have a decision to make soon on whether to withdraw or abandon them there.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220727/ae46df3e58598a5623b9c69a0e258d96.jpg

Those HIMARS systems are pretty accurate.

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[StevieC]

Distressing documentary about the plight of kids with disabilities in Ukraine on BBC and highlighted on the news. Simply harrowing to see young people and adults locked away in basic accommodation with just the area of a child’s cot to occupy - tied to the bed or their seats. Getting washed once a week and really only existing. Terribly terribly sad. In fact, just heartbreaking 💔

Documentary saying it’s like Romania when the regime fell and it’s one of the barriers for Ukraine in terms of being permitted to join the EU. The staff clearly were under huge stress but there seemed to be a severe lack of knowledge and understanding as they were saying you “can’t do anything for children like this” and it’s just the bad luck they’ve had. They’re being discovered as other agencies go in to help the war displaced population.

Expert was saying it is typical of the approach of the former Soviet block in the past but that Ukraine seems not to have had the will to prioritise improving things despite 30 years of independence from Moscow.

It’s on iPlayer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/disability-62226636

I will need to watch this, because my experience of the orphanage system is one of a government that actively changed the old soviet era orphanages to smaller “family type children homes” with very visible improvements both in the care provided and the effect on children and their behaviours. As I’ve not watched it yet I won’t comment too much, but certainly the level of care, professionalism and knowledge of care staff and the conditions of the orphanages was questionable at best.

I know from personal experience that children with disabilities and long term medical needs can find themselves abandoned by their parents (we have some in our Dnipro Kids group) so I don’t doubt that these places exist, I’m just sceptical about how widespread a problem it may be being made out to be.

[judas]

I think it’s you who are wrong. Russia can’t afford to keep up this level of warfare and there is no way it can hope to hold what they have.
Before the end of August you will start to see Russia lose territory.

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Western media driven perspective.

Regardless of the positive news today, I’ll wager that Donbas territory currently in Russian hands will not be in Ukrainian hands this time next year.

[Stairway 2 7]

Western media driven perspective.

Regardless of the positive news today, I’ll wager that Donbas territory currently in Russian hands will not be in Ukrainian hands this time next year.

It's not the media. War historians and military experts were mostly saying two months ago, don't look to much at severodonetsk getting taken as Russia will very soon lose the ability to attack and then UKR will advance from the south.

The media were getting excited saying Russia has changed tactics and are storming back. Russia is getting weaker every day, Ukraine is getting stronger. This can only go one way if they get the support. Germany and some others might be wishing for a stop soon. But as long as Americans back the war UKR should be ok

[Stairway 2 7]

The real sanctions that hide behind gdp and fuel sales ect. Almost zero cars produced in Russia in May, June similar, a tiny amount imported also. 600,000 Russians worked in car manufacturing 1% of all employed. 1 manufacturing job usually supports 3 service jobs!

https://mobile.twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1552688894138785795

[Stairway 2 7]

Thread on how Russia is going to struggle to get its supplies by barges to the 10,000 troops stuck in Kherson.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1552358513963405314

[Stairway 2 7]

This is stunning in 6 months.

The U.S. lost 55,220 men in Vietnam between 1955-1975


Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
“We were briefed that over 75,000 Russians have either been killed or wounded [in Ukraine], which is huge...over 80% of their land forces are bogged down, and they're tired,”
@RepSlotkin
told
@MZanona
re: classified briefing House members just got from Biden admin officials

[Glory Lurker]

This is stunning in 6 months.

The U.S. lost 55,220 men in Vietnam between 1955-1975


Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
“We were briefed that over 75,000 Russians have either been killed or wounded [in Ukraine], which is huge...over 80% of their land forces are bogged down, and they're tired,”
@RepSlotkin
told
@MZanona
re: classified briefing House members just got from Biden admin officials

We can't rely on Ukraine sources for this sort of thing, although there's no doubt the toll is high. Thoughts with their mothers.

[Stairway 2 7]

We can't rely on Ukraine sources for this sort of thing, although there's no doubt the toll is high. Thoughts with their mothers.

That's US government. Ukraine estimates 40,000 dead

[Renfrew_Hibby]

https://ridl.io/who-is-dying-for-the-russian-world/

A report highlighting the ethnic breakdown of Russian casualties and where in Russia those casualties are likely to come from.

Muslims from the North Caucuses and Buddhists from the various republics in Central siberia disproportionately provide many of the deaths, many times that of slavic Russians.

The contrasting rates per 100,000 between poor ethnic regions and wealthier 'white' regions is startling.
Even in regions where Slavs make up the majority of the population the deaths from these regions containe far higher proportions of non Slavs in their figures.

The report is from a couple of months ago and the situation has only got worse since.

I wonder if for example there could be internal problems ahead for Putin if say Chechens turn and seek to overthrow Kadyrov.
If that happens then Russia could be plunged into anther Chechen war which could now spread to other regions. Basically Russia would be goosed.

[Keith_M]

https://ridl.io/who-is-dying-for-the-russian-world/

A report highlighting the ethnic breakdown of Russian casualties and where in Russia those casualties are likely to come from.

Muslims from the North Caucuses and Buddhists from the various republics in Central siberia disproportionately provide many of the deaths, many times that of slavic Russians.

The contrasting rates per 100,000 between poor ethnic regions and wealthier 'white' regions is startling.
Even in regions where Slavs make up the majority of the population the deaths from these regions containe far higher proportions of non Slavs in their figures.

The report is from a couple of months ago and the situation has only got worse since.

I wonder if for example there could be internal problems ahead for Putin if say Chechens turn and seek to overthrow Kadyrov.
If that happens then Russia could be plunged into anther Chechen war which could now spread to other regions. Basically Russia would be goosed.


"In part, it’s an issue of poverty. Buryatia and other ethnic republics, which surpass European Russian oblasts in deaths by a large margin, are also among Russia’s poorest regions.

For many young men in Tuva or Dagestan (https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/11/who-caused-this-unemployment-nazis-or-our-government), signing a contract with the army is one of the very few options for a regular income and a possible career. Russia’s military is disproportionately made up of poor, non-ethnic Russian men."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/05/20/russia-ukraine-war-casualties-deaths-putin-ethnic-minorities-racism/

[Stairway 2 7]

Simon Jenkins guardian peace is being getting ripped today but this is my favourite thread on why it's poor. Just because the rubble is high, doesn't mean it's not worthless. You just need to look at the ancient military vehicles being sent to the front to see sanctions are working

https://mobile.twitter.com/DmitryOpines/status/1552942940393185280

[Stairway 2 7]

Nahmen
@AlexandravonNah
·
Yale study shows sanctions are crippling Russia's economy:
• Imports have largely collapsed
• With many global companies gone, 🇷🇺 has lost firms representing 40% of GDP
• Car production’s down by 89%
• For fiber optic cables it dropped by almost 80%


ARE SANCTIONS WORKING? Yale says the 1K western companies that fled Russia comprised ~ 45% of RU GDP. Russian domestic production has come to a complete standstill, and its domestic financial markets are the worst performing in the world in 2022. Ouch.
https://investmentmonitor.ai/special-focus/ukraine-crisis/yale-study-russian-economy-hit-sanctions

[Smartie]

Simon Jenkins guardian peace is being getting ripped today but this is my favourite thread on why it's poor. Just because the rubble is high, doesn't mean it's not worthless. You just need to look at the ancient military vehicles being sent to the front to see sanctions are working

https://mobile.twitter.com/DmitryOpines/status/1552942940393185280

https://www.indiafinancenews.com/sanctions-are-absolutely-destroying-russia/

Did you read this?

It would back up what you are saying.

Would be nice to catch sight of the Yale paper though.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.indiafinancenews.com/sanctions-are-absolutely-destroying-russia/

Did you read this?

It would back up what you are saying.

Would be nice to catch sight of the Yale paper though.

No will do just now ta.

Here's the paper titled, Business Retreats and Sanctions Are Crippling the Russian Economy

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4167193

Rather than western military sticking together in helping UKR, I think the Russian economy being decimated will give China pause for invading Taiwan

[Stairway 2 7]

Russia and Ukraine are both saying the other bombed a prison holding the prisoners captured from Azovstal, 50 dead over 100 seriously injured.

Russia says it was Ukraine with HIMARS. If true it would have to be bad information as to what was inside as they are accurate to a few metres, ukr showed this by deliberately bombing the bridge last week every 20 metres.

Ukraine are saying it was Russia to cover up the torture reports from the prison. The truth will out

@DefenceU
Ukraine government organization
·
The Ukrainian Katyn.
With the barbaric overnight shelling in #Olenivka the russian occupiers tried to destroy evidence and cover up the torture and execution of Ukrainian prisoners of war. They failed. These criminals will be identified and punished

[Stairway 2 7]

There's a horrible video going round the news outlets, where Russian soldiers castrate torture and kill an azov soldier. Turns out one of the soldiers has been identified by bellingcat as a sieg heiling nazi, more denazification from Russian nazis

https://mobile.twitter.com/ColborneMichael/status/1553104779601186819

@ColborneMichael
In an absolutely unsurprising development, one of the Russian soldiers from the infamous video yesterday (if you know, you know) also apparently likes giving Nazi salutes

[Stairway 2 7]

@visegrad24
·

Russia has cut off Latvia from Russian gas supplies due to Latvia’s refusal to pay for gas in rubles instead of euro.

Latvia used to get 90% of their gas from Russia

[Stairway 2 7]

Red Cross have been denied access to the bombed prison, against the Geneva convention.

@ICRC_ua

To be clear, our request to access the POWs from Olenivka penal facility yesterday has not been granted.

Granting ICRC access to POWs is an obligation of parties to conflict under the Geneva Conventions

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Frialum/status/1553506097952079874

@Frialum
Well, not surprised that journalists found the link between Gazprombank and the Russian army - Kremlin is simply using it to pay their soldiers. They don't even transfer it to a different bank, so Europe is directly paying for the invasion of Ukraine, not even metaphorically

Filtration camps' guards funded by the EU

https://www.radiosvoboda.org/a/skhemy-hazprombank-viyna-sanktsiyi/31913940.html

[Stairway 2 7]

There's now a number of threads proving that Russia murdered the azov soldiers, this is one of the better ones. Nations that don't put everything they have into stopping this will be seen with disgust in the future.

https://mobile.twitter.com/noclador/status/1553346547739410432

Thomas C. Theiner
@noclador
Olenivka POW massacre thread 🧵:

1) it wasn't a GMLRS rocket
2) it was a thermobaric weapon
3) russia staged it and did so (as usual) incompetently

Firstly: keeping POWs so close to the front violates Article 19 of the Third Geneva Convention making it a war crime.

1/n

[Gatecrasher]

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1553714116702789633?s=20&t=lwZ27InTlZV22p-gjQCRhw

Apparently Ukraine have taken out a train of 40 carriages, taking out soldiers, equipment and arms.

[Smartie]

So it looks like it might be worth keeping an eye on the Balkans now as well then?

A peculiar little skirmish over car number plates seems to be spiralling into something much bigger, with some familiar chat being released by one of Vucic's underlings about the possible need to denazify the region (generally, in a somewhat familiar fashion this is the way that he tends to let his feelings be known to the public).

[Ozyhibby]

So it looks like it might be worth keeping an eye on the Balkans now as well then?

A peculiar little skirmish over car number plates seems to be spiralling into something much bigger, with some familiar chat being released by one of Vucic's underlings about the possible need to denazify the region (generally, in a somewhat familiar fashion this is the way that he tends to let his feelings be known to the public).

Pretty sure nothing will come of that. The Serbs aren’t Russia and NATO will move quickly to defend Kosovo.


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[Stairway 2 7]

So it looks like it might be worth keeping an eye on the Balkans now as well then?

A peculiar little skirmish over car number plates seems to be spiralling into something much bigger, with some familiar chat being released by one of Vucic's underlings about the possible need to denazify the region (generally, in a somewhat familiar fashion this is the way that he tends to let his feelings be known to the public).

I think it's just posturing by the Serbs and the reason it will only be that and not further is what we advised against for Ukraine, nato. Nato have said the will keep the peace if Serbia tries anything, so Serbia won't. Fingers crossed anyway

noclador
·
6h
I think last evening Serbia's General Staff officers explained to President Vučić that if he orders to attack Kosovo NATO fighter jets would appear over Serbian forces within hours and start bombing them... and within 48 hours the US Army's 173rd Airborne Brigade would be airlifted to Pristina Airport and the Italian Army's Paratropers Brigade "Folgore" airlifted to Gjakova Airport (which Italy's military built for this purpose).

Followed a day later by the Italian Army's Mechanized Brigade "Pinerolo", which is based in and around Bari, and would
be shipped by the Italian Navy's 3rd Naval Division with its amphibious ships from Brindisi to Durrës within 2 days. From Durrës to Mitrovicia the Pinerolo's wheeled Freccia IFVs and Centauro tank destroyers need 6 hours thanks to the Western co-financed A1 highway

In short: NATO has been planning and training to defend Kosovo for 23 years; if the Serb ever go all loco and invade NATO can overmatch them in the air within a few hours and on the ground within a few days.
And NATO made sure Serbia's generals know this... but Vučić is a 🤡

[Stairway 2 7]

Agreed, do people become blasé to Russian war crimes especially after bucha and bombing humanitarian corridors.

Janis Kluge
SWP Berlin

I'm really baffled by how little reporting there is on #Olenivka in Western news. In all likelihood, Russians locked dozens of Ukrainian POWs inside a building and then exploded an incendiary bomb inside. If confirmed, it is one of the worst war crimes of this century


https://mobile.twitter.com/jakluge/status/1553841182777688066
jakluge
US military expert on #Olenivka: Judging from the available video, Russian soldiers most likely locked Ukrainian prisoners-of-war inside the building and then threw incendiary devices inside.

https://youtube.com/shorts/yM_HIwqKKDU

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/chriso_wiki/status/1553833316578631681?s=21&t=imK5xtrq8VXqB5aeAyJ_cw


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/kyivpost/status/1554403435415494657?s=21&t=djO2_LAHQTQZerljd0TO9A

Offensive on Kherson can only be a few weeks away now.


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[CyberSauzee]

https://twitter.com/chriso_wiki/status/1553833316578631681?s=21&t=imK5xtrq8VXqB5aeAyJ_cw


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Fascinating threads on his account, thanks for posting.

[Bridge hibs]

Putin will be rubbing his hands with glee now that China are threatening to slap America about. The last thing the world needs is America taking its eye off the ball

[Stairway 2 7]

Putin will be rubbing his hands with glee now that China are threatening to slap America about. The last thing the world needs is America taking its eye off the ball

More likely China will have looked at Russia being ostracised by the whole world and destroying its economy and think we don't fancy that. China are facing some big financial difficulties and a massive decrease in population, they won't want lose EU and US trade

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/gerashchenko_en/status/1554712453891735552?s=21&t=ou4Mcb1ZbVytaLTu_Zx4EQ

Sanctions working.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

oh, Jeremy Corbyn Jeremy Corbyn urges west to stop arming Ukraine | Jeremy Corbyn | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corbyn-urges-west-to-stop-arming-ukraine)

Jeremy Corbyn has urged western countries to stop arming Ukraine


just when i start hoping starmer is booted out and labour returned to the left, he comes out with this

so western countries stop supplying arms to Ukraine and then the Russians slaughter them, now i'm sure he wouldn't want Ukrainians slaughtered so how would he help stop Russia committing atrocities, the only thing that's going to stop the Russians slaughtering one and all is Putin being allowed to reclaim all the land he desires, they're not going to say aye ok then we will give you back Crimea as well.

[Rumble de Thump]

oh, Jeremy Corbyn Jeremy Corbyn urges west to stop arming Ukraine | Jeremy Corbyn | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corbyn-urges-west-to-stop-arming-ukraine)

Jeremy Corbyn has urged western countries to stop arming Ukraine


just when i start hoping starmer is booted out and labour returned to the left, he comes out with this

so western countries stop supplying arms to Ukraine and then the Russians slaughter them, now i'm sure he wouldn't want Ukrainians slaughtered so how would he help stop Russia committing atrocities, the only thing that's going to stop the Russians slaughtering one and all is Putin being allowed to reclaim all the land he desires, they're not going to say aye ok then we will give you back Crimea as well.

Unfortunately, even giving the Russians land wouldn't stop them from slaughtering people. It would just make it easier for them.

[Kato]

Unfortunately, even giving the Russians land wouldn't stop them from slaughtering people. It would just make it easier for them.Exactly. He hasn't been listening to Russia's expansionist/anti-woke statements.

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[Bristolhibby]

Exactly. He hasn't been listening to Russia's expansionist/anti-woke statements.

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Yip, reeks of “the Sudetenland” just before WW2.

J

[Stairway 2 7]

One of the most disappointing things about the war is some on the lefts view. People I've admired are stuck in a bygone age of US vs Russia, both are empiricistic. They are stuck in their ways and too far gone to admit it.

I saw Tommy Sheridan shared something from rt saying the Ukrainian soldiers were bombed in the prison by HIMARS. The fact that its against the Geneva convention to keep them 10 miles from the front, they won't let the red cross in, you don't use a $400,000 rocket for something in artillery range, independent osint has shown it was thermobaric weapons.

Tommy used to share lots of bellingcat information when they were showing isreali war crimes, now must ignore them that they are exposing Russian genocide.

I noticed Tommy, the James connoly society, slaven and Bonnie Prince Bob all share loads of each others stuff recently. It's split between anti Ukraine and anti snp, mostly anti snp. Repeatedly going on about nu Scotland whatever that is. Sharing rt and daily mail articles is very weird look for the left

[Ozyhibby]

One of the most disappointing things about the war is some on the lefts view. People I've admired are stuck in a bygone age of US vs Russia, both are empiricistic. They are stuck in their ways and too far gone to admit it.

I saw Tommy Sheridan shared something from rt saying the Ukrainian soldiers were bombed in the prison by HIMARS. The fact that its against the Geneva convention to keep them 10 miles from the front, they won't let the red cross in, you don't use a $400,000 rocket for something in artillery range, independent osint has shown it was thermobaric weapons.

Tommy used to share lots of bellingcat information when they were showing isreali war crimes, now must ignore them that they are exposing Russian genocide.

I noticed Tommy, the James connoly society, slaven and Bonnie Prince Bob all share loads of each others stuff recently. It's split between anti Ukraine and anti snp, mostly anti snp. Repeatedly going on about nu Scotland whatever that is. Sharing rt and daily mail articles is very weird look for the left

Just the kind of people the are. They are not interested in a better world, just in tearing this one down. And it’s very lucrative for them. They are not unlike the current Tory party.


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[WhileTheChief..]

Bit of an update on the Russian economy...


https://youtu.be/UeP0QwSHKr8

[Stairway 2 7]

The first country to take advantage of Russian weakness is Azerbaijan. Russia would usually side with Armenia but won't have spare troops. Azerbaijan have sent missles to Ukraine and reportedly 2 fighter planes


@Caucasuswar
·
Multiple Azerbaijani drone strikes in the Karabakh region against Armenian separatist forces as earlier today an Azerbaijani soldier was killed in the Lachin region.

Russia and Armenia failed to comply with the trilateral agreement signed on November 2020

[degenerated]

cometh the hour cometh the man :crazy:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/uri-geller-warns-vladimir-putin-he-will-use-mind-power-to-deflect-any-nuclear-missiles/ar-AA10inAP?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=6d3050e686a1410ba7b809fc56f972e4

[Just Alf]

cometh the hour cometh the man :crazy:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/uri-geller-warns-vladimir-putin-he-will-use-mind-power-to-deflect-any-nuclear-missiles/ar-AA10inAP?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=6d3050e686a1410ba7b809fc56f972e4Oh boy....

[Lendo]

Oh boy....

Beautiful 1998 Umbro Scotland strip though.

[Stairway 2 7]

Bellingcat tracked and talked to the murderer and castrator of the Ukrainian prisoner
https://mobile.twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1555594205019471872
@christogrozev
!! One of the most gruesome investigations we have worked on:
@bellingcat
identified the exact location and the group that mutilated and executed a Ukrainian PoW

[Stairway 2 7]

What an amazing well researched bit of journalism by centre of information and daily beast. Detailing the genocide by the Russians and forced deportation and russiafication of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians.

Genocide and war crime after war crime and some say we shouldn't have helped Ukraine militarily

st
@thedailybeast
·
EXCLU: Russia has set up to systematically wipe out the Ukrainian population by forcibly “Russifying” hundreds of thousands of citizens, according to a new report extensively detailing Russia’s network of “filtration” camps for refugees.
https://trib.al/cxNe62K

[cabbageandribs1875]

another £3m Russian T-90 destroyed, they're nicknamed the 'Vladimir' pity he wasn't taking it for a test run at the time

(1) 🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker on Twitter: "#Ukraine: The catastrophic explosion of a Russian tank (reportedly a T-90) again due to internal ammo detonation. https://t.co/OKUX2BHICd" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1555884295193038848)

[Stairway 2 7]

Thread on a woman returning to Kyiv and what she found

https://mobile.twitter.com/mariamposts/status/1556324205108535297

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/sanctions-are-working--whatever-putin-says?fbclid=IwAR1Yp4s2XEYH5M6MHfv3piMv4QlAMwjDAmgY FKgpyGi9AovgFsu_zbnZLZM&fs=e&s=cl

Don’t believe Vladimir Putin’s hype. The Russian economy is not OK. With western sanctions jeopardising up to 40 per cent of the country’s GDP, Putin’s assurances of an economic pivot to the East are a sham. And his weaponising of gas supplies to Europe is the financial equivalent of strapping on a suicide vest

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/phillipspobrien/status/1556904992254169088?s=21&t=cr0R8exHyChO2K4SDTeDLQ

Update on state of the war. I still think before end of August will see Ukraine push on Kherson.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

US shipping another $1 billion worth of rockets, arms etc to Ukraine

US pledges $1 billion more rockets, other arms for Ukraine (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-pledges-dollar1-billion-more-rockets-other-arms-for-ukraine/ar-AA10rOfu)

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1556996656079507456?s=21&t=XpCf-lb5Fe0xXJBNfUT-3g

Massive explosions at Russian airbase in Crimea. Long way from front lines so this is an impressive strike by Ukraine.
Two ammunition storage facilities hit.


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[hibsbollah]

One of the most disappointing things about the war is some on the lefts view. People I've admired are stuck in a bygone age of US vs Russia, both are empiricistic. They are stuck in their ways and too far gone to admit it.

I saw Tommy Sheridan shared something from rt saying the Ukrainian soldiers were bombed in the prison by HIMARS. The fact that its against the Geneva convention to keep them 10 miles from the front, they won't let the red cross in, you don't use a $400,000 rocket for something in artillery range, independent osint has shown it was thermobaric weapons.

Tommy used to share lots of bellingcat information when they were showing isreali war crimes, now must ignore them that they are exposing Russian genocide.

I noticed Tommy, the James connoly society, slaven and Bonnie Prince Bob all share loads of each others stuff recently. It's split between anti Ukraine and anti snp, mostly anti snp. Repeatedly going on about nu Scotland whatever that is. Sharing rt and daily mail articles is very weird look for the left

I think that's an extremely fringe opinion on the Left.

Most Left commentators I read understand that arming Ukraine, and not allowing a collapse, is a necessity at the moment, even if they think that NATO expansionism was ill advised prior to The Now.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/lapatina_/status/1557040583797051394?s=21&t=gQcG679nkGR7u2c***ymLg

[emoji23]


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[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1557025471178702849

@JayinKyiv
We may have just witnessed the greatest single day of losses for the Russian Air Force, ever.

From satellite 4 hours before the explosions, I count 37 jets and 6 helicopters.

The explosions were spread out, across the area. So, maybe targeting groups of aircraft

[Stairway 2 7]

Liz Sly
@LizSly
Bucha officials are as close as they're ever likely to be to a final reckoning of the toll of Russia’s murderous rampage in Bucha: 458 bodies - 366 men. 86 women. 5 in too bad condition to determine. 9 children.
Our story

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/08/08/ukraine-bucha-bodies/

[Ozyhibby]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1557025471178702849

@JayinKyiv
We may have just witnessed the greatest single day of losses for the Russian Air Force, ever.

From satellite 4 hours before the explosions, I count 37 jets and 6 helicopters.

The explosions were spread out, across the area. So, maybe targeting groups of aircraft

That would be great news.[emoji1696][emoji1696][emoji1696]


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[Renfrew_Hibby]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sM-1fc-1uF0

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/balmforthtom/status/1556908654481350659?s=21&t=d_VWBU3lFuzD4rKYETIAdQ

Russia having to strip the stolen planes now to keep their aeroplanes in the sky. That won’t last forever and soon they won’t have any commercial flights. Sanctions working.[emoji106]


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/gerashchenko_en/status/1557303022102913024?s=21&t=9kpFbpbjgR0bGF4WndT3cA

Traffic jam out of Crimea has lasted more than 24 hrs now and is said to be 100km long.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/defenceu/status/1557621932429819907?s=21&t=F-2LSm8WlaN9-lQpcnU-_A

Love this.[emoji106][emoji23]


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[hibsbollah]

I wasnt expecting a programme called 'Russias Torture Prisons' on BBC Eye on the iplayer to be a barrel of laughs, but it was some of the most disturbing TV I think ive ever watched. Just left me feeling a bit sick about the depravity of the human condition last night (and the Russian state, obviously).

Only watch if you have a strong stomach for unpleasantness.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I wasnt expecting a programme called 'Russias Torture Prisons' on BBC Eye on the iplayer to be a barrel of laughs, but it was some of the most disturbing TV I think ive ever watched. Just left me feeling a bit sick about the depravity of the human condition last night (and the Russian state, obviously).

Only watch if you have a strong stomach for unpleasantness.

Not a pleasant 50 mins viewing.

[Stairway 2 7]

A split between the sdp in Germany who say Russians should be able to travel to Europe and the most Eastern European nations who want it banned in the next package. Cdu in Germany are pushing for the ban also

@thorstenbenner
· 3h
"This is Putin's war and that is why I have a hard time with this idea".

Scholz on blanket visa ban for Russian citizens

RKiesewetter CDU
· 3h
I used to be a supporter of visa liberalization for #Russia. But obviously this had no effect on the development of 🇷🇺society. Rather, the vast majority supports the brutal war of aggression. Therefore, yes, 🇩🇪should support this #Schengen 'tourist' #visaban for Russians

visegrad24
·
15m
Estonia’s Minister of Foreign Affairs,
@UrmasReinsalu
, has said that Estonia will make an official proposal to the European Union this month to suspend Schengen visas for Russian citizens

[Ozyhibby]

Russia has just announced it is to start printing roubles. 15 billon in the first batch.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220812/39e98aa601934d2b646023ae6425344b.jpg

BBC are a disgrace.


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[Just Alf]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220812/39e98aa601934d2b646023ae6425344b.jpg

BBC are a disgrace.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYup, I see they've since tweaked it!

[Glory Lurker]

I'm not on twitter so can't follow this, and I can't be doing with the BBC, but if we aren't allowed to discuss the issues we're losing what puts us in the right

[Ozyhibby]

I'm not on twitter so can't follow this, and I can't be doing with the BBC, but if we aren't allowed to discuss the issues we're losing what puts us in the right

The discussion is fine. The claim that Ukraine is acting outside it’s borders in Crimea is not.


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[Glory Lurker]

The discussion is fine. The claim that Ukraine is acting outside it’s borders in Crimea is not.


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Even though it is wrong, it's right that people should be able to claim it publicly. It's wrong, and we prove it's wrong using independent means. It makes the argument even more risible. You don't get that in Russia.

[StevieC]

The discussion is fine. The claim that Ukraine is acting outside it’s borders in Crimea is not.

Exactly. BBC now falling into the disappointing group of people/organisations/countries that have Crimea the same colour as Russia on a map! 😡

[lapsedhibee]

Exactly. BBC now falling into the disappointing group of people/organisations/countries that have Crimea the same colour as Russia on a map! ��

Why wouldn't it be? If Russia has the Tory government in its pocket and the Tory government has the BBC in its pocket, then shirley Russia has the BBC in its pocket? Entirely normal.

[StevieC]

Why wouldn't it be? If Russia has the Tory government in its pocket and the Tory government has the BBC in its pocket, then shirley Russia has the BBC in its pocket? Entirely normal.

Still disappointing though

[Paul1642]

Why wouldn't it be? If Russia has the Tory government in its pocket and the Tory government has the BBC in its pocket, then shirley Russia has the BBC in its pocket? Entirely normal.

Except neither of those things are the case. We’re sure giving a lot of help to the enemy of the country that “has our government in their pocket”.

That and just about everyone in the UK accused the BBC of being biased against there belief. That in itself tells me it’s pretty impartial.

[lapsedhibee]

Except neither of those things are the case. We’re sure giving a lot of help to the enemy of the country that “has our government in their pocket”.

That and just about everyone in the UK accused the BBC of being biased against there belief. That in itself tells me it’s pretty impartial.

Support for Ukraine's just a cover. And I saw the next Prime Minister pictured posing in a Russian hat on Newsnight not too long ago. As was seen in the run up to the last General Election, if the BBC pictures a politician in a Russian hat, it more or less proves they're a communist/Marxist/Russian asset.

[Rumble de Thump]

Even though it is wrong, it's right that people should be able to claim it publicly. It's wrong, and we prove it's wrong using independent means. It makes the argument even more risible. You don't get that in Russia.

It's obviously not right that the BBC publishes information that is so clearly wrong. That's why they have had to make a correction.

[hibsbollah]

That and just about everyone in the UK accused the BBC of being biased against there belief. That in itself tells me it’s pretty impartial.

I’ve read this before and the logic is basically ‘my cheat of a husband is lying and cheating to me, but I refuse to credit my own eyes because that cow over the road ALSO claims he’s lying and cheating on HER’…I mean I know they say that satire is dead but…

[Moulin Yarns]

Support for Ukraine's just a cover. And I saw the next Prime Minister pictured posing in a Russian hat on Newsnight not too long ago. As was seen in the run up to the last General Election, if the BBC pictures a politician in a Russian hat, it more or less proves they're a communist/Marxist/Russian asset.

Or a hearts supporter? Or maybe it was just cold?

[lapsedhibee]

I’ve read this before and the logic is basically ‘my cheat of a husband is lying and cheating to me, but I refuse to credit my own eyes because that cow over the road ALSO claims he’s lying and cheating on HER’…I mean I know they say that satire is dead but…

Suppose two teams are playing against each other. And one of the teams bribes the ref to give them advantages. Let's call the teams Roma and Dundee United. At the end of the game Dundee United claim that the ref was biased against them. Roma, in return, claim that the ref was biased against them. Because both teams complained about the ref, this tells me that the ref was impartial.

[DaveF]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-62462276

Putin's new bestie.

[Bostonhibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-62462276

Putin's new bestie.They're probably just going to form a doubles team at badminton or something like that, they've both been trying to find a partner for ages but no one else fancies it.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1559271763028090881?s=21&t=26ifAVTepyVNp1pL4D9yCA

Russia is a basket case. Putin finally realising that with a shrinking population of only 140 million people, they are no longer feared by their neighbours.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/johnsweeneyroar/status/1559434109742682112?s=21&t=rVhO3HWEww9PMwExbnfu6A

Absolutely correct on the banning of Russians from receiving EU and UK visa’s. Tories still allowing Russians to visit London and party as well as visit their banks etc.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1559433800664453121?s=21&t=rVhO3HWEww9PMwExbnfu6A

Another Russian ammo depot blown up. Ukrainians fighting very smart just now.
This one is in Crimea, so we’ll behind the front lines. And it’s a great fireworks show if you watch the video.[emoji106]


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[DaveF]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1559433800664453121?s=21&t=rVhO3HWEww9PMwExbnfu6A

Another Russian ammo depot blown up. Ukrainians fighting very smart just now.
This one is in Crimea, so we’ll behind the front lines. And it’s a great fireworks show if you watch the video.[emoji106]


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That is some show. Good luck to anyone who was close by when that kicked off.

[makaveli1875]

Massive explosions at a military base in Crimea . Obviously the Russians are saying a fire broke out and nobody was hurt but google the video , it’s quite similar to the airbase explosion the other day

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1559351697318764545

@ChuckPfarrer
IT BEGINS: A UK tabloid reports that highly placed Kremlin official has approached the West to help end the Ukraine invasion. Astonishing claims about the move were made in a report circulated to Western intelligence agencies

[Renfrew_Hibby]

https://twitter.com/johnsweeneyroar/status/1559434109742682112?s=21&t=rVhO3HWEww9PMwExbnfu6A

Absolutely correct on the banning of Russians from receiving EU and UK visa’s. Tories still allowing Russians to visit London and party as well as visit their banks etc.


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I understand the emotive 'let's ban them all' argument.
This will be a hammer blow to Russians dissidents, anti war/Putin activists and to millions of mainly young Russians who are loosing all hope that their futures can be democratic, internationalist and peaceful.

[Ozyhibby]

I understand the emotive 'let's ban them all' argument.
This will be a hammer blow to Russians dissidents, anti war/Putin activists and to millions of mainly young Russians who are loosing all hope that their futures can be democratic, internationalist and peaceful.

They know what they need to do then. Their silence just now shows how much they care for those things.


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[Renfrew_Hibby]

[QUOTE=Ozyhibby;7066341]They know what they need to do then. Their silence just now shows how much they care for those things.


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Not true. We just don't understand what it's like to live in a country where speaking out can end your education or see you lose your job and be blacklisted overnight.
Where speaking out can see you fined huge sums.
Where speaking out can see you ostracised from your family or be subjected to unprovoked assaults by the local, neds/casuals types.

Its overwhelming for say a young student in a Commie housing scheme somewhere in the back of beyond Russia where the majority are spoon fed a narrative from their infancy to their graves by strictly controlled schooling and media to rise up and protest. The future direction of their lives change instantly.

[Ozyhibby]

[QUOTE=Ozyhibby;7066341]They know what they need to do then. Their silence just now shows how much they care for those things.


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Not true. We just don't understand what it's like to live in a country where speaking out can end your education or see you lose your job and be blacklisted overnight.
Where speaking out can see you fined huge sums.
Where speaking out can see you ostracised from your family or be subjected to unprovoked assaults by the local, neds/casuals types.

Its overwhelming for say a young student in a Commie housing scheme somewhere in the back of beyond Russia where the majority are spoon fed a narrative from their infancy to their graves by strictly controlled schooling and media to rise up and protest. The future direction of their lives change instantly.

Sounds like the last thing they need is a holiday visa?
It’s tourist visa’s that are up for debate.


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[Ozyhibby]

Ukraine just hit another air base in Crimea.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1559494343995817985?s=21&t=oxYiZg0M22ZIzf91wzRwRg

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[Renfrew_Hibby]

[QUOTE=Renfrew_Hibby;7066346]

Sounds like the last thing they need is a holiday visa?
It’s tourist visa’s that are up for debate.


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Russians now feel trapped in an authoritarian state. This is the last thing they need.
Russian anti putin/war activists currently in Georgia are now terrified that visas will be revoked or not granted extensions due to the EU putting pressure on the Georgians.
Young youtube, social media vloggers now fear being returned home to almost certain imprisonment and probable torture.

[Stairway 2 7]

[QUOTE=Ozyhibby;7066348]

Russians now feel trapped in an authoritarian state. This is the last thing they need.
Russian anti putin/war activists currently in Georgia are now terrified that visas will be revoked or not granted extensions due to the EU putting pressure on the Georgians.
Young youtube, social media vloggers now fear being returned home to almost certain imprisonment and probable torture.

They don't need to fear, it's only short term tourist visas. Academic and working visas will still be available if people want to escape, but 2 week holidays to Spain will be out. Its a war its a genocide, whatever it takes

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/jayinkyiv/status/1559516561383346178?s=21&t=oxYiZg0M22ZIzf91wzRwRg
Russians evacuating Crimea.


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[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/IlvesToomas/status/1559508190030618626

Estonias former prime minister goes two footed into Germany over their treatment to russia and also tourists visas

[Ozyhibby]

https://mobile.twitter.com/IlvesToomas/status/1559508190030618626

Estonias former prime minister goes two footed into Germany over their treatment to russia and also tourists visas

Amazing how little it’s getting talked about here as well. Russian tourists streaming into London all summer.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/navalny/status/1559528130041319429?s=21&t=Lf9bac9d_4k71GgDop-bTQ

Interesting thread by Navalny on how the oligarchs are still not being sanctioned.


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[Stairway 2 7]

https://twitter.com/navalny/status/1559528130041319429?s=21&t=Lf9bac9d_4k71GgDop-bTQ

Interesting thread by Navalny on how the oligarchs are still not being sanctioned.


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Great thread, hope it does good

[Stairway 2 7]

Darwin award?

https://mobile.twitter.com/KyleJGlen/status/1559500424461389824
KyleJGlen
Just an incredible **** up. A Telegram channel affiliated with the Russian mercenary group "Wagner" posted the location of their HQ, Ukraine bombed the building and killed the admin of the channel, call sign "500

[DaveF]

Darwin award?

https://mobile.twitter.com/KyleJGlen/status/1559500424461389824
KyleJGlen
Just an incredible **** up. A Telegram channel affiliated with the Russian mercenary group "Wagner" posted the location of their HQ, Ukraine bombed the building and killed the admin of the channel, call sign "500

I'd read yesterday that it was a journalist who had visited the HQ who posted a picture of the building which was subsequently geo-located. Suppose it just goes to show that there are claims galore hen it comes to this war.

[Smartie]

The very existence of Navalny gives me hope for Russia, even if he may seem a million miles away from being able to exert proper influence.

Yet.

The fact that he does still exist, and is able to get work like this out from where he is and influence as many people as he surely does is deserving of huge respect though.

[Stairway 2 7]

I'd read yesterday that it was a journalist who had visited the HQ who posted a picture of the building which was subsequently geo-located. Suppose it just goes to show that there are claims galore hen it comes to this war.

They are one and the same incident. He was the guy on the left of the infamous photo shown on state tv , with the street address in the background.

[Stairway 2 7]

The very existence of Navalny gives me hope for Russia, even if he may seem a million miles away from being able to exert proper influence.

Yet.

The fact that he does still exist, and is able to get work like this out from where he is and influence as many people as he surely does is deserving of huge respect though.

A brave brave man. The documentary still on the iplayer is absolutely brilliant