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More hypocrisy from supposed defenders of democracy and freedom of speech in the West.
The Labour Party currently denouncing freedom of speech in their own party. Quite an irony given their criticism on the lack of freedom of speech in Russia.
I'm not talking about specific historical events. I'm talking about history as a living, moving entity which nobody knows the course of. It can't be scientifically deduced, or split into 'sides'. Hindsight (and clairvoyance) are not history. Sure, Marxists or totalitarian regimes down the ages have adopted a mantra that humanity is on a single, unalterable course, but they have constantly been knocked off that course and frustrated. Even a more liberal belief in an ever-improving, universal humanity has been regularly thwarted. You just need to look at the retrogressive, often irrational movements which continue to sweep the globe today.
you seem to be taking a very narrow and arguably obtuse view, just for the sake of an argument that really doesn’t make sense.
History WILL remember putin as someone who instigated a bloody invasion of another country
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 02:22 PM
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497588067644944384
Tens of thousands in Tallinn in support for Ukraine
you seem to be taking a very narrow and arguably obtuse view, just for the sake of an argument that really doesn’t make sense.
History WILL remember putin as someone who instigated a bloody invasion of another countryWhat is happening now is current events. History is the recording of events and its interpretation is subject to available sources, bias and interpretation. Which is why history will always be open to a change of view and in a state of flux.
In this country "history" shows Henry the 8th as a fat, jolly bloke who always had a chicken leg and got married six times. His life is obviously broader than that. I think of him as selfish, entitled, get who allowed his army to lay waste to Edinburgh and instructed them to rape as many women as they could throughout the City whereas someone like Richard Starkey would admire that ruthlessness or ignore that aspect.
Eye of the beholder and all that.
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Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 02:52 PM
David M. Herszenhorn
@herszenhorn
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24m
BREAKING: Germany dropping longstanding block against lethal weapons transfers to allow 400 RPGs to be sent to Ukraine from Netherlands to help repel Russian invaders. Potentially major shift in European military assistance for Ukraine. Story soon at
politico.eu
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 02:57 PM
AFP News Agency
@AFP
#BREAKING Russian army ordered to broaden Ukraine advance 'from all directions': ministry
Ozyhibby
26-02-2022, 03:03 PM
AFP News Agency
@AFP
#BREAKING Russian army ordered to broaden Ukraine advance 'from all directions': ministry
Given that they haven’t made a breakthrough anywhere, you’d think they would want to focus it on one thing at a time?
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Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 03:25 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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9m
As of today, Visa and Mastercard cards of #Russian banks, which are under sanctions, will no longer work abroad
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 03:27 PM
Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
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16m
The Ukrainian military appears to be holding well overall (at likely great cost) with a key exception: The south, where it seems to have struggled far more. Notable #Russian advances made today, despite Ukrainian reinforcements
Moulin Yarns
26-02-2022, 03:37 PM
https://twitter.com/RedZippo70/status/1497607158812360709?t=D-o7UbNPE0RUAue9kidnmQ&s=19
A map of Russian and non Russian territory.
cabbageandribs1875
26-02-2022, 03:41 PM
3,500 Russian corpses on the streets of Ukraine …….. Ukraine asked the Red Cross for help to return them home to their loved ones ……. Putin says no ……….. source Aljazeera News
Ozyhibby
26-02-2022, 03:52 PM
https://twitter.com/biz_ukraine_mag/status/1497565942137638914?s=21
POW hotline.
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Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 03:58 PM
NEXTA@nexta_tv·16m⚡️#
Belgium will supply #Ukraine with 2,000 machine guns and 3,800 tons of fuel for the army
Phil Stewart
@phildstewart
19m
(Reuters) - A NATO battlegroup being formed for Slovakia in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine will include 1,200 foreign troops and a Patriot missile defence system manned by German and Dutch personnel, Slovak's defence minister said. Slovakia shares a border with Ukraine
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 04:15 PM
Thing is with Russia banning all the countries airlines from Russia in return, it will effect the Russian economy more than the individual countries.
@IdeologyWars🇸🇮 Slovenia closes airspace to all Russian flights
Russia restricts flights from Romania into the nation
25608
The new route from Moscow to kaliningrad 😆
Also that small channel will be where Russian planes can fly to anywhere in the eu, as there is a block of no fly countries north south across the continent, solidarity
Scorrie
26-02-2022, 04:30 PM
Great tribute to Ukraine at Goodison Park. Both Everton and city have Ukrainian players
Keith_M
26-02-2022, 04:40 PM
Great tribute to Ukraine at Goodison Park. Both Everton and city have Ukrainian players
I've got my Ukrainian flag sorted for tomorrow. I'm hoping others do the same
LunasBoots
26-02-2022, 04:41 PM
Given that they haven’t made a breakthrough anywhere, you’d think they would want to focus it on one thing at a time?
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I'm sure the russiaan people won't be happy thousands of there loved ones have died for nothing at the same time they are probably suppressed in learning that information sadly
Mikey
26-02-2022, 04:53 PM
Is there any information about what's going on in the background? There's surely some sort of diplomacy being attempted.
Hibrandenburg
26-02-2022, 05:03 PM
I've got my Ukrainian flag sorted for tomorrow. I'm hoping others do the sameEvery little gesture counts. Hope you're right about others doing similar.
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Ozyhibby
26-02-2022, 05:15 PM
Great tribute to Ukraine at Goodison Park. Both Everton and city have Ukrainian players
Shame City’s owners abstained at the UN yesterday. ****bags. [emoji35]
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Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 05:23 PM
NEXTA@nexta_tv·4m⚡️
The Citizens' Initiative for Finland's Membership in #NATO has passed the necessary threshold of 50,000 signatures and has been submitted to parliament for consideration
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 05:24 PM
Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·8m
1000 Weapons against tanks and 500 Stingers pledged from Germany right now
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 05:27 PM
Not sure where the idiot got his information, be good if true
Andrew Neil
@afneil
· 39m
President Xi of China urges Putin to negotiate with Ukraine
Mikey
26-02-2022, 05:31 PM
Not sure where the idiot got his information, be good if true
Andrew Neil
@afneil
· 39m
President Xi of China urges Putin to negotiate with Ukraine
I saw similar on Twitter today and it wasn't from him.
I think if Putin is given a way out that doesn't look like a loss he'll take it.
Ozyhibby
26-02-2022, 05:40 PM
https://twitter.com/metesohtaoglu/status/1497562345819627522?s=21
Russian security service attacking Russian Army choir.
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Lendo
26-02-2022, 05:41 PM
I've got my Ukrainian flag sorted for tomorrow. I'm hoping others do the same
The cynical side of me says that if Celtic fans have Ukrainian flags in the crowd we can expect to see Rangers fans flying Russian flags.
Santa Cruz
26-02-2022, 05:46 PM
https://twitter.com/metesohtaoglu/status/1497562345819627522?s=21
Russian security service attacking Russian Army choir.
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The first couple of replies to that Tweet suggest this is not legit and was a prank from 2015?
Radium
26-02-2022, 05:49 PM
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Lithuanian Prime Minister
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Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 05:50 PM
I saw similar on Twitter today and it wasn't from him.
I think if Putin is given a way out that doesn't look like a loss he'll take it.
They sent their demands to Ukraine today but it was basically a full surrender and it was sent back. They said publicly there was a ceasefire whilst Ukraine could look at it, but all the independent observers said this was nonsense and battle continued
speedy_gonzales
26-02-2022, 05:51 PM
https://twitter.com/metesohtaoglu/status/1497562345819627522?s=21
Russian security service attacking Russian Army choir.
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Quite literally fake news, YouTube video from 6 years ago.
It just goes to show how difficult it is in these times to differentiate fact from fiction with the absolute volume of media we can digest from all the various media channels available to us.
https://youtu.be/O_OJHpwAVrE
Chorley Hibee
26-02-2022, 05:56 PM
The cynical side of me says that if Celtic fans have Ukrainian flags in the crowd we can expect to see Rangers fans flying Russian flags.
Agreed, it's incredible how so many morons at those two clubs think everything in the world revolves around their ****ty little football clubs.
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 05:59 PM
https://twitter.com/michaelsavage/status/1497644674722508810
Michael Savage
@michaelsavage
NEW: Abramovich announces he is "giving trustees of Chelsea’s charitable Foundation the stewardship and care of Chelsea FC".
Statement from Club Owner Roman Abramovich https://link.chelseafc.com/1WUW/e1f594e2 via
@ChelseaFC
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 06:01 PM
Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
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6m
Ukrainian media reports fighting in the Manhattan City Appartment complex, along Peremohy Avenue, in central #Kyiv
Radium
26-02-2022, 06:01 PM
https://twitter.com/michaelsavage/status/1497644674722508810
Michael Savage
@michaelsavage
NEW: Abramovich announces he is "giving trustees of Chelsea’s charitable Foundation the stewardship and care of Chelsea FC".
Statement from Club Owner Roman Abramovich https://link.chelseafc.com/1WUW/e1f594e2 via
@ChelseaFC
During my nearly 20-year ownership of Chelsea FC, I have always viewed my role as a custodian of the Club, whose job it is ensuring that we are as successful as we can be today, as well as build for the future, while also playing a positive role in our communities. I have always taken decisions with the Club’s best interest at heart. I remain committed to these values. That is why I am today giving trustees of Chelsea’s charitable Foundation the stewardship and care of Chelsea FC.
I believe that currently they are in the best position to look after the interests of the Club, players, staff, and fans.
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Ozyhibby
26-02-2022, 06:05 PM
During my nearly 20-year ownership of Chelsea FC, I have always viewed my role as a custodian of the Club, whose job it is ensuring that we are as successful as we can be today, as well as build for the future, while also playing a positive role in our communities. I have always taken decisions with the Club’s best interest at heart. I remain committed to these values. That is why I am today giving trustees of Chelsea’s charitable Foundation the stewardship and care of Chelsea FC.
I believe that currently they are in the best position to look after the interests of the Club, players, staff, and fans.
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Is he giving up ownership? If not then it makes no difference.
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Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 06:10 PM
Illia Ponomarenko
@IAPonomarenko
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6m
AIR RAID ALERT KYIV!
https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1497648514834313220
Lots of videos on twitter of fighting right in the centre of Kyiv now
Scorrie
26-02-2022, 06:19 PM
The cynical side of me says that if Celtic fans have Ukrainian flags in the crowd we can expect to see Rangers fans flying Russian flags.
Crossed my mind earlier, particularly as Russian flags are red, white and blue!
Ozyhibby
26-02-2022, 07:12 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497664806958030851?s=21
Def seems to be a large element of incompetence among the Russians.
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Mikey
26-02-2022, 07:29 PM
https://twitter.com/michaelsavage/status/1497644674722508810
Michael Savage
@michaelsavage
NEW: Abramovich announces he is "giving trustees of Chelsea’s charitable Foundation the stewardship and care of Chelsea FC".
Statement from Club Owner Roman Abramovich https://link.chelseafc.com/1WUW/e1f594e2 via
@ChelseaFC
That statement is an excellent opportunity for him to condemn the situation, that he hasn't chosen to take.
degenerated
26-02-2022, 07:36 PM
That statement is an excellent opportunity for him to condemn the situation, that he hasn't chosen to take.Sounds to me like Abramovich has been tipped a wink from within Westminster that he is going to be added to the sanctioned list shortly. 25609
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StevieC
26-02-2022, 07:37 PM
From my friend in Kyiv ..
I'm safe in my house (you may remember it) Situation is difficult. Tonight will be very big battle for Kiev. Will see how it ends tomorrow morning. There are 25 thousand men in Kiev who received Kalashnikov machine guns for last week. Russians must kill or capture all of them to take Kiev over. People have prepared a lot of Molotov cocktails and ready to use them. I would say that quite a lot of people absolutely ready to die but kill at least one Russian - or hit the tank (it's better). That's how life looks for now.
As Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene and Rep Paul Gosar speak at this white supremacist, anti-Semitic, pro-Putin event, silence by Republican Party leaders is deafening and enabling.
All Americans should renounce this garbage and reject the Putin wing of the GOP now.
https://t.co/6fgpV6ohZ8
White Supremacist Republicans cheering Russia on.
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Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 07:40 PM
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497635170609893376
The Kyiv Independent@KyivIndependent⚡️
Lviv-based Pravda brewery switches to making Molotov cocktails.
The brewery announced the plans after Ukraine’s Defense Ministry instructed civilians to make Molotov cocktails to resist invading Russian forces
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 07:41 PM
From my friend in Kyiv ..
I'm safe in my house (you may remember it) Situation is difficult. Tonight will be very big battle for Kiev. Will see how it ends tomorrow morning. There are 25 thousand men in Kiev who received Kalashnikov machine guns for last week. Russians must kill or capture all of them to take Kiev over. People have prepared a lot of Molotov cocktails and ready to use them. I would say that quite a lot of people absolutely ready to die but kill at least one Russian - or hit the tank (it's better). That's how life looks for now.
It's unimaginable what they are going through
Ozyhibby
26-02-2022, 07:42 PM
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497635170609893376
The Kyiv Independent@KyivIndependent⚡️
Lviv-based Pravda brewery switches to making Molotov cocktails.
The brewery announced the plans after Ukraine’s Defense Ministry instructed civilians to make Molotov cocktails to resist invading Russian forces
I’ll do my bit for the war effort by seeking out that beer in future.
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Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 07:44 PM
As Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene and Rep Paul Gosar speak at this white supremacist, anti-Semitic, pro-Putin event, silence by Republican Party leaders is deafening and enabling.
All Americans should renounce this garbage and reject the Putin wing of the GOP now.
https://t.co/6fgpV6ohZ8
White Supremacist Republicans cheering Russia on.
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Brutal
cabbageandribs1875
26-02-2022, 07:46 PM
one of many real heroes :agree:
https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/274858795_517279569757783_3053201179130736911_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=lZco8Icuz_wAX9TIUnM&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT_SI6uxj46KzbDdFdlgA81JvnQbx2sih67cZTmj8Zy2 3Q&oe=621E9537
BrutalThere is even worse.
“Now they’re going on about Vladimir Putin and Russia and Vladimir Putin is Hitler and they say that’s not a good thing. (Smiles) I shouldn’t have said that. (Laughter)”
https://t.co/NsCUXbQzb4
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CropleyWasGod
26-02-2022, 07:47 PM
Is he giving up ownership? If not then it makes no difference.
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It's a very woolly statement. There will be some legal mechanism that he has used to enable the ownership to be temporarily transferred. He has perhaps used a trust.
Remember,too, that he doesn't own the shares personally. He is the beneficial owner of a holding company that owns the shares. In that respect, no different from RG or STF.
Ozyhibby
26-02-2022, 07:51 PM
It's a very woolly statement. There will be some legal mechanism that he has used to enable the ownership to be temporarily transferred. He has perhaps used a trust.
Remember,too, that he doesn't own the shares personally. He is the beneficial owner of a holding company that owns the shares. In that respect, no different from RG or STF.
And noticeably did not condemn the war.
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CropleyWasGod
26-02-2022, 07:54 PM
And noticeably did not condemn the war.
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Yet his daughter did.
Dinner time in that hoose will be interesting 😁
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 07:55 PM
Boom Russian millionaires won't be happy they can't travel to London or Paris ect
Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·2m
BREAKING:
All EU countries have unanimously agreed to close the EU’s airspace for Russian airlines.
Putin is ruining Russia’s economy
ronaldo7
26-02-2022, 07:55 PM
From my friend in Kyiv ..
I'm safe in my house (you may remember it) Situation is difficult. Tonight will be very big battle for Kiev. Will see how it ends tomorrow morning. There are 25 thousand men in Kiev who received Kalashnikov machine guns for last week. Russians must kill or capture all of them to take Kiev over. People have prepared a lot of Molotov cocktails and ready to use them. I would say that quite a lot of people absolutely ready to die but kill at least one Russian - or hit the tank (it's better). That's how life looks for now.
Misha back in Dnipro, ready to fight.
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 07:58 PM
There is even worse.
“Now they’re going on about Vladimir Putin and Russia and Vladimir Putin is Hitler and they say that’s not a good thing. (Smiles) I shouldn’t have said that. (Laughter)”
https://t.co/NsCUXbQzb4
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Despise that wee prick, louis theroux was too light on him
truehibernian
26-02-2022, 08:00 PM
Brutal
Is that not the guy who Louis Theroux did a programme on recently ? Looks like him - a racist white supremacist who looks like he’s never evolved from his nappy ?
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 08:04 PM
Is that not the guy who Louis Theroux did a programme on recently ? Looks like him - a racist white supremacist who looks like he’s never evolved from his nappy ?
Yeah
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 08:05 PM
Elizabeth Campbell
@ECampbell360
· 30m
"We have captured around 200 Russian soldiers, some around 19 years old. Not trained at all. Badly equipped." Ukraninan Major General Borys Kremenetsky says. "We allow them to call their parents. Parents completely surprised
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 08:08 PM
Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·9m
The Polish Border Guard has announced 10 migrants tried to cross into Poland illegally from Belarus in the past 24 hours.
All migrants were from Iraq.
They were detained and pushed back across the border to Belarus.
43.000 Ukrainian refugees entered Poland legally today
Agreed, it's incredible how so many morons at those two clubs think everything in the world revolves around their ****ty little football clubs.
:agree: Very true, when in reality hardly anyone gives a ****
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 08:23 PM
Guy Elster
@guyelster
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2m
Replying to
@guyelster
A phone call between Macron and Lukashenko tonight, amid reports that #Belarus would soon join #Russia's invasion to #Ukraine
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 08:25 PM
Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·4m
Imminent heavy air raid expected in Kyiv
NEXTA@nexta_tv·1m❗️ Explosions in #Kyiv from the side of #Obolon, #Bucha, and #Gostomel
Haymaker
26-02-2022, 08:26 PM
Guy Elster
@guyelster
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2m
Replying to
@guyelster
A phone call between Macron and Lukashenko tonight, amid reports that #Belarus would soon join #Russia's invasion to #Ukraine
Can't have any more Russian deaths so is sending the Belarssians instead
hibsbollah
26-02-2022, 08:33 PM
A message from Zarah Sultan MP:
"Today I received a death threat from someone calling me “Putin’s whore”. I am in no doubt this horrific attack is the result of misleading reports and press comments.
The environment this creates threatens the safety of public figures and narrows our democracy. My statement:"
It’s amazing how quickly the media and MPs forget that their attacks on public representatives can lead to death threats and indeed the murder of MPs.
Lendo
26-02-2022, 08:44 PM
Elizabeth Campbell
@ECampbell360
· 30m
"We have captured around 200 Russian soldiers, some around 19 years old. Not trained at all. Badly equipped." Ukraninan Major General Borys Kremenetsky says. "We allow them to call their parents. Parents completely surprised
This guy must be in his 30s or 40s. Making him phone his mum is a genuinely great move by the Ukrainians. Showing compassion to these guys who are clearly clueless as to why they are there is fantastic and will go a long way.
https://twitter.com/FullShmuck/status/1497409773565743109?s=20
Ive been in the pub with a Ukrainian friend who speaks fluent Russian and she’s confirmed he is genuinely saying he hasn’t got a clue what’s going on.
Hibrandenburg
26-02-2022, 08:47 PM
3 days since the Russians invaded. Their resupply lines will be stretched to the limit and without effective resupply their front line troops' morale, capability and effectiveness will wane. Time is on the side of the Ukrainians, the longer Russia fails to achieve its objectives, the less likely they are to do so. As an ex soldier I'm in absolute awe of the resistance that the Ukrainian military and civilian population have put up. I'm still in no doubt that the Russians will ultimately achieve their objectives, but the price they will pay for them is going to make Russians reconsider their choice of leader.
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cabbageandribs1875
26-02-2022, 08:49 PM
A message from Zarah Sultan MP:
"Today I received a death threat from someone calling me “Putin’s whore”. I am in no doubt this horrific attack is the result of misleading reports and press comments.
The environment this creates threatens the safety of public figures and narrows our democracy. My statement:"
It’s amazing how quickly the media and MPs forget that their attacks on public representatives can lead to death threats and indeed the murder of MPs.
i was reading earlier her and the other 10 withdrew their signatures under pressure from HIM Keir Starmer axes Young Labour’s conference and cuts funding after it attacked backing for Nato (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/keir-starmer-axes-young-labour-s-conference-and-cuts-funding-after-it-attacked-backing-for-nato/ar-AAUj0Hh?ocid=msedgntp) he's also cut funding to the young labour ones and axed their conference
cabbageandribs1875
26-02-2022, 08:52 PM
Can't have any more Russian deaths so is sending the Belarssians instead
god knows what the ukranians have done to that Dictator but he does owe Putin
LunasBoots
26-02-2022, 08:54 PM
This guy must be in his 30s or 40s. Making him phone his mum is a genuinely great move by the Ukrainians. Showing compassion to these guys who are clearly clueless as to why they are there is fantastic and will go a long way.
https://twitter.com/FullShmuck/status/1497409773565743109?s=20
Ive been in the pub with a Ukrainian friend who speaks fluent Russian and she’s confirmed he is genuinely saying he hasn’t got a clue what’s going on.
Heard a few snippetsof Russian soldiers previous,a hell of a lot of them do not know why they are even there
SteveHFC
26-02-2022, 09:01 PM
https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1497687568661585922?s=21
⚡️Multiple reports suggest that Russian forces are about to conduct heavy airstrikes and rocket attacks against Kyiv.
Haymaker
26-02-2022, 09:02 PM
This guy must be in his 30s or 40s. Making him phone his mum is a genuinely great move by the Ukrainians. Showing compassion to these guys who are clearly clueless as to why they are there is fantastic and will go a long way.
https://twitter.com/FullShmuck/status/1497409773565743109?s=20
Ive been in the pub with a Ukrainian friend who speaks fluent Russian and she’s confirmed he is genuinely saying he hasn’t got a clue what’s going on.
Bloody hell.
Lendo
26-02-2022, 09:16 PM
This is genuinely hilarious. Absolute baws on this boy to approach a group of Russian soldiers and roast them. Starting to understand why they elected a former comedian.
https://twitter.com/aliostad/status/1497519061554630658?s=20
Ozyhibby
26-02-2022, 09:25 PM
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UK immigration minister. [emoji35]
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Hibrandenburg
26-02-2022, 09:38 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220226/3900b1ebe14e2d5dec12ab63c034ecbe.jpg
UK immigration minister. [emoji35]
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThere's a special place in hell reserved for these ***** and the voters that enable them.
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Bostonhibby
26-02-2022, 09:39 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220226/3900b1ebe14e2d5dec12ab63c034ecbe.jpg
UK immigration minister. [emoji35]
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNearly said nasty but there's every chance that if this is genuine we just have another example of an out of touch, desensitised uncaring prick pursuing the nasty parties long term line on anyone who might seem foreign.
Wonder which season he thought the victim here might have been coming to do some seasonal work in, maybe he could send them a form to fill in.
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Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 09:49 PM
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
Replying to
@FedorovMykhailo
Starlink service is now active in Ukraine. More terminals en route
Satellites for Ukraine
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 09:55 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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19m
"In 30-60 minutes #Kyiv will be attacked. #Russia will hit us with everything they have. The main Bessarabka market is the target. All the parliamentary chats are exploding," - Lesya Vasilenko deputy of the Verkhovna Rada
DH1875
26-02-2022, 09:56 PM
Watching the news. Woman on a train leaving Kiev and interviewing refugees fleeing Ukraine. 1000s of people trying to leave. Train is ducking empty :confused:. I'm not talking standing room only, half the seats don't even have anyone in them :confused:.
Hibrandenburg
26-02-2022, 09:57 PM
Anyone who has an iota of understanding of the post war German mentality will understand what turmoil the German leadership must have been in to decide to supply another nation with lethal weaponry, will also understand how brave the decision to do so was. There will be hell to pay come election time but it was definitely the right decision.
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He's here!
26-02-2022, 10:22 PM
you seem to be taking a very narrow and arguably obtuse view, just for the sake of an argument that really doesn’t make sense.
History WILL remember putin as someone who instigated a bloody invasion of another country
I'd suggest it's the opposite of narrow or obtuse. The scope for historical interpretation is as wide as anyone wishes to make it. However, history itself doesn't make judgements. There's no right or wrong 'side' of it that anyone can sign up to.
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 10:46 PM
https://twitter.com/IdeologyWars/status/1497713112094547970
World Events Live - Jon@IdeologyWars🇺🇦
Unbelievably heavy shelling videos coming from Kharkiv
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 10:50 PM
Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·19m
Poland and Sweden refuse to play Russia in World Cup play-offs
cabbageandribs1875
26-02-2022, 10:50 PM
Kremlin website down: 'Hacked' Russian TV 'broadcasts Ukrainian songs' | Metro News (https://metro.co.uk/2022/02/26/kremlin-website-down-hacked-russian-tv-broadcasts-ukrainian-songs-16181086/)
Russian government websites including the official Kremlin page were down on Saturday after reports of cyberattacks on multiple state media websites amid Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.
Ukraine’s state telecommunications agency disclosed that six Russian government sites were non-functional, The Kyiv Independent reported. As the Russian media regulator’s site crashed, hackers got Russian TV channels to broadcast Ukrainian songs, the agency reportedly said (https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497589738785624068?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1497589738785624068%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-7291159222732078057.ampproject.net%2F2202142035002 %2Fframe.html).
lord bunberry
26-02-2022, 11:20 PM
I saw reports earlier of Russian soldiers knocking on doors in Ukraine asking for food as they’d run out. It goes to show that so many don’t know why they’re there as you wouldn’t go asking people you are invading to provide you with something to eat.
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I'd suggest it's the opposite of narrow or obtuse. The scope for historical interpretation is as wide as anyone wishes to make it. However, history itself doesn't make judgements. There's no right or wrong 'side' of it that anyone can sign up to.
It's true that you can interpret history in many ways but it's not infinite, you have to provide evidence and argument to prove what your saying and eventually there would be some sort of consensus arrived at subject to any new evidence.
As to your last point I not quite sure where this existential recording of events exists. History exists in people's minds and is therefore subject to moralising.
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Greencore
26-02-2022, 11:26 PM
https://t.me/UkraineCrisisEnglish
Sir David Gray
26-02-2022, 11:30 PM
I saw reports earlier of Russian soldiers knocking on doors in Ukraine asking for food as they’d run out. It goes to show that so many don’t know why they’re there as you wouldn’t go asking people you are invading to provide you with something to eat.
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That's a few times that I've read this now, I'm not saying it's wrong but how on Earth can they be sent to Ukraine, be armed to the teeth and not know why they're there?
I can't get my head round that at all.
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 11:32 PM
Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰@visegrad24·16m
Russia has officially recognized its first high-ranking officer to have been killed in Ukraine.
The Head of Dagestan, Sergey Melikov, has expressed his condolences to the family of officer Nurmagomed Gadzhimagomedov
Stairway 2 7
26-02-2022, 11:36 PM
NEXTA@nexta_tv·8m⚡
Intel and AMD stop supplying microchips to #Russia
lord bunberry
26-02-2022, 11:48 PM
That's a few times that I've read this now, I'm not saying it's wrong but how on Earth can they be sent to Ukraine, be armed to the teeth and not know why they're there?
I can't get my head round that at all.
I think the suggestion is that they’ve been told that they’re going in to help the Ukrainians.
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AgentDaleCooper
27-02-2022, 01:17 AM
I dunno, if I walked into the office tomorrow and said the company is fking **** would I be excused on freedom of speech?
Folk celebrating what we define as terrorist organisations - freedom of speech?
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if your office was elected by the public and your sentiments held widespread support amongst the public, as well as many reputable academics and analysts (check out John Mearsheimer, for example - he's by no means a 'loony lefty' and has been warning about this for years), i'd say it would fall under freedom of speech.
to paraphrase Chomsky, NATO exists to solve the problems caused by its own existence.
SteveHFC
27-02-2022, 01:21 AM
https://twitter.com/euromaidanpress/status/1497753926334042119?s=21
About 01:20 EET, Russian shells hit the radioactive waste storage facility of the Kyiv branch of the Radon Association, according to Ukraine's State Inspectorate for Nuclear Regulation of Ukraine.
cabbageandribs1875
27-02-2022, 03:11 AM
Ukraine island defenders who told Russian navy ‘go **** yourself’ may still be alive | Ukraine | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/27/ukraine-island-defenders-who-told-russian-officer-go-****-yourself-may-still-be-alive)
Ukrainian soldiers believed to have died while defending an island (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/25/ukraine-soldiers-told-russians-to-go-****-yourself-before-black-sea-island-death) after telling a Russian warship to “go **** yourself”, may still be alive, according to Ukraine’s State Border Guard.
Initial reports said the 13 border guards had died after refusing to surrender Snake Island, which sits 186 miles (300km) west of Crimea, from a Russian air and sea bombardment on Thursday.
Russian troops maybe need to see headlines like this... Vladimir Putin 'will let his men die' as Russia 'prepared to lose 50,000 troops' - World News - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-will-men-die-26339283)
Russia is prepared to lose up to 50,000 troops as Vladimir Putin (https://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/vladimir-putin) must win in Ukraine (https://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/ukraine) at all costs, say intelligence chiefs.
Sources said Putin is not concerned by the death toll of his own soldiers, which could stand at 3,500 men so far.
Many of those killed are from Russia (https://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/russia) ’s most experienced forces such as the Spetsnaz and Airborne units.
lord bunberry
27-02-2022, 04:15 AM
I have to say I find the views of some of the old school Labour voters a bit alarming on this subject. They condemn the Russian invasion but at the same time there’s an undercurrent of justification with links from Russia Today and stories about Labour Party politicians being harassed for their views. I don’t care if idiots from the Labour Party are getting grief for blaming nato for what’s happening, it’s nothing compared to what the Ukrainians are going through.
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Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 06:38 AM
Russian forces bombed Kiev and Kharkiv last night and doing a push into both today. Soldiers in Kharkiv now
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497832441293254659
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
Battles on the Sapernaya Street in #Kharkiv
Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
3m
Lots of reports of clashes, Russian troops moving in Bucha, near #Kyiv. Working to confirm some of the videos
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
14m
#Russian actress Liya #Akhedzhakova donated $10,000 to the Armed Forces of #Ukraine.
Ozyhibby
27-02-2022, 08:18 AM
https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/1497830041014652928?s=21
Shambolic Russians getting lost. The more you see, the more you think that the Ukrainians might just be able to hold on.
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Hibrandenburg
27-02-2022, 08:42 AM
https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/1497830041014652928?s=21
Shambolic Russians getting lost. The more you see, the more you think that the Ukrainians might just be able to hold on.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThere's a huge advantage to fighting a defensive war on your home patch. The Ukrainians will have a good idea of where the Russians are thanks to NATO intelligence and will be able to anticipate the routes these convoys will take. This will enable them to set up prepared killing zones where they can ambush the Russians when they move and then disappear to the next prepared killing zone before the enemy can react. Convoys like the ones we're seeing in these videos will be easy prey for a well organised resistance.
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StevieC
27-02-2022, 08:49 AM
This is from the girl from our Puzir orphanage in Dnipro that was the first we supported that was accepted into the prestigious Shevchenko University in Kyiv. We have continued supporting her through her studies ..
“ Hi! I have already left Kyiv and I am already in Western Ukraine.
sorry for the long response, those were the hard last days for me, because I was trying to do something to protect myself and my friends who were around me, when war is beginning i was in dormitory in Kyiv, then I asked for advice from friends from Kyiv what to do. All this time I was in touch with Ira Klyus, she connected me with her friend, who was supposed to leave for the West of Ukraine. Then several days on the road and in tension, since it was scary to go through the cities, which Russian troops were shooting at. We still left Kyiv and now we are in Western Ukraine, with friends of my friend. There is still and calm. But I am very worried about my friends from different cities in Ukraine. I am praying for that too much and i’m trying to help people online. I hope this ends soon. It’s happened such quickly! I can’t believe. But i try to keep calm and to do something for support other people!”
makaveli1875
27-02-2022, 08:50 AM
https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/1497830041014652928?s=21
Shambolic Russians getting lost. The more you see, the more you think that the Ukrainians might just be able to hold on.
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The only way Ukraine will hold on is if someone goes in to help them . They’re outnumbered and Russia have them surrounded
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 08:54 AM
NEXTA@nexta_tv·14m❗️
The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine launched a resource where #Russians can find information about their relatives sent to #Ukraine. With the help of this database it is possible to find out if they are among the captured or dead.
Website - http://200rf.com
OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical
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12m
Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine Anna Malaryar reports 4300 Russian servicemember casualties
Paulie Walnuts
27-02-2022, 08:58 AM
This is from the girl from our Puzir orphanage in Dnipro that was the first we supported that was accepted into the prestigious Shevchenko University in Kyiv. We have continued supporting her through her studies ..
“ Hi! I have already left Kyiv and I am already in Western Ukraine.
sorry for the long response, those were the hard last days for me, because I was trying to do something to protect myself and my friends who were around me, when war is beginning i was in dormitory in Kyiv, then I asked for advice from friends from Kyiv what to do. All this time I was in touch with Ira Klyus, she connected me with her friend, who was supposed to leave for the West of Ukraine. Then several days on the road and in tension, since it was scary to go through the cities, which Russian troops were shooting at. We still left Kyiv and now we are in Western Ukraine, with friends of my friend. There is still and calm. But I am very worried about my friends from different cities in Ukraine. I am praying for that too much and i’m trying to help people online. I hope this ends soon. It’s happened such quickly! I can’t believe. But i try to keep calm and to do something for support other people!”
Slightly off topic but I didn’t realise the extent of the work you guys do. I presumed it didn’t really extend any further than the orphanages.
Hats off to you all. What you’ve given the girl above and no doubt countless others is life changing. Top man :aok:
Ozyhibby
27-02-2022, 09:14 AM
The only way Ukraine will hold on is if someone goes in to help them . They’re outnumbered and Russia have them surrounded
I would have thought that a few days ago. Now I’m not so sure. It doesn’t sound like the Russians have prepared their troops at all for what they are going into and their logistics seem to be failing. Add to that the economic collapse in Russia itself and im beginning to get hopeful.
The freezing of their central bank assets is a bit of a game changer as it prevents them supporting the rouble. It will be worthless come Monday morning. Supermarkets are likely to close while they assess their prices. There could be massive internal trouble in Russia itself pretty quickly. And the troops themselves will be finding out that their wages are now worthless.
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Ozyhibby
27-02-2022, 09:15 AM
Slightly off topic but I didn’t realise the extent of the work you guys do. I presumed it didn’t really extend any further than the orphanages.
Hats off to you all. What you’ve given the girl above and no doubt countless others is life changing. Top man :aok:
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Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 09:19 AM
The Greek Prime Minister
@PrimeministerGR
“10 innocent civilians of Greek origin we’re killed today by Russian air strikes close to Mariupol. Stop the bombing now!”
WeeRussell
27-02-2022, 09:36 AM
I'd suggest it's the opposite of narrow or obtuse. The scope for historical interpretation is as wide as anyone wishes to make it. However, history itself doesn't make judgements. There's no right or wrong 'side' of it that anyone can sign up to.
Last post from me on this as I appreciate we’ve already argued too much on a very trivial thing amongst a generally good and informative thread..
I don’t think anyone’s arguing that ‘history’ is some sort of god-like being that chooses what is right and wrong. The saying you take objection to is simply used to say certain individuals and groups will be remembered as having done wrong or made wrong decisions when people look back in history. Vladimir Putin will be one of those people. I don’t see how that’s even debatable or how you can use it as some way to have a dig at liberals or progressives.. but like I say, no point in arguing it any further.
As for not liking the phrase - I can’t really criticise given there are far too many phrases that irritate me for no logical reason!
Ozyhibby
27-02-2022, 09:37 AM
https://samf.substack.com/p/the-fight-for-ukraine?r=15i4j0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=url
Really interesting article by a professor of war studies.
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Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 09:41 AM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497877080280903680
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
The Russian Army attacked a monument in Bucha put up in honor of the Ukrainians who served in the 1979-1989 Soviet-Afghan War after mistaking for a Ukrainian military vehicle.
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 09:43 AM
Guy Elster
@guyelster
40s
#BREAKING Czech refuses to play against #Russia in World Cup qualification, joins Poland and Sweden
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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6m
Iceland closed its airspace to Russian aircraft and banned Russian tourists from visiting
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 09:49 AM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497866949338050560
@visegrad24
Ukraine’s top commander Valerii Zaluzhnyi has shared the 1st video of a Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2 attack on Russian forces.
The attack from Turkish-made drone came on the 2nd anniversary of the Russian Baylun attack in Syria that killed 34 Turkish soldiers
When Argentina invaded the Falklands the UK, defenders, never touched the Argentinian mainland. I always wondered why?
Likewise the invasion of Ukraine has been limited to internal Ukraine. Its not as if this was any great surprise so why didn't Ukraine have missiles ready to fire into Russia and use them when the time came? In the absence of that why aren't the Ukraine setting off car bombs in Moscow? Its all a bit late now.
Ozyhibby
27-02-2022, 09:51 AM
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/02/how-russian-sanctions-work/622940/
What central bank sanctions actually mean.
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Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 09:51 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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17s
Huge shift in Germany.
Additional 100 billion euros has been committed for the country’s defense budget this year and more than 2% of GDP for defense from 2022 onwards
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 09:54 AM
When Argentina invaded the Falklands the UK, defenders, never touched the Argentinian mainland. I always wondered why?
Likewise the invasion of Ukraine has been limited to internal Ukraine. Its not as if this was any great surprise so why didn't Ukraine have missiles ready to fire into Russia and use them when the time came? In the absence of that why aren't the Ukraine setting off car bombs in Moscow? Its all a bit late now.
Not sure, but all the weapons satellite support and aid Ukraine are getting from the world is because they are defending. They don't want war with Russia, just them out their country?
Moulin Yarns
27-02-2022, 10:05 AM
Not sure, but all the weapons satellite support and aid Ukraine are getting from the world is because they are defending. They don't want war with Russia, just them out their country?
I also think, if even one weapon lands on Russian soil then we are all done for.
Hibrandenburg
27-02-2022, 10:14 AM
When Argentina invaded the Falklands the UK, defenders, never touched the Argentinian mainland. I always wondered why?
Likewise the invasion of Ukraine has been limited to internal Ukraine. Its not as if this was any great surprise so why didn't Ukraine have missiles ready to fire into Russia and use them when the time came? In the absence of that why aren't the Ukraine setting off car bombs in Moscow? Its all a bit late now.Ukraine is the victim here and they depend on support and supply from outside Ukraine, if pictures of dead kids in Moscow from Ukrainian attacks then countries like Germany will think twice about supplying them with military hardware. If and when Russia finally occupies Ukraine, we might then see the emergence of terrorist style resistance.
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Ozyhibby
27-02-2022, 10:27 AM
When Argentina invaded the Falklands the UK, defenders, never touched the Argentinian mainland. I always wondered why?
Likewise the invasion of Ukraine has been limited to internal Ukraine. Its not as if this was any great surprise so why didn't Ukraine have missiles ready to fire into Russia and use them when the time came? In the absence of that why aren't the Ukraine setting off car bombs in Moscow? Its all a bit late now.
That would be a terrible idea. Ukraine are absolutely smashing the PR war, not only in Ukraine and the west but also in Russia itself. Attacking Russia directly would damage that.
In the war on Chechnya, Putin bombed an apartment block in Moscow just so he could blame imaginary Chechen terrorists.
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Greenio
27-02-2022, 11:13 AM
Can anyone offer some advice on donating money.
Where's it needed most and is most likely to get there in time to make an impact?
I saw the national bank have set up a wire transfer to support the army, but I was wondering if it will go from money to actually help soon enough.
Thanks for any help
Ozyhibby
27-02-2022, 12:31 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497926480520744962?s=21
Putin puts nuclear forces on alert. He’s getting desperate.
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Scorrie
27-02-2022, 12:33 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497926480520744962?s=21
Putin puts nuclear forces on alert. He’s getting desperate.
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That isn’t good...
Killiehibbie
27-02-2022, 12:36 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497926480520744962?s=21
Putin puts nuclear forces on alert. He’s getting desperate.
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If he looks like giving the order to launch that must be the time for him to be taken out by his own side.
WhileTheChief..
27-02-2022, 12:37 PM
Thing is, Putin can threaten nuclear weapons whenever he wants.
USA gets involved, we use them
Nato gets involved, we use them
Lift sanctions or we use them
Ukraine offers full surrender and is absorbed into a newly formed USSR or we use them
Latvia, Estonia etc etc etc
The general public in Russia will slowly be learning the truth.
The army barely seem to understand why they're fighting, I doubt they would end civilisation as we know it under these circumstances.
Ozyhibby
27-02-2022, 12:42 PM
Thing is, Putin can threaten nuclear weapons whenever he wants.
USA gets involved, we use them
Nato gets involved, we use them
Lift sanctions or we use them
Ukraine offers full surrender and is absorbed into a newly formed USSR or we use them
Latvia, Estonia etc etc etc
The general public in Russia will slowly be learning the truth.
The army barely seem to understand why they're fighting, I doubt they would end civilisation as we know it under these circumstances.
And now that he has threatened it, the west should use their dismantling as a precondition for the lifting of sanctions when the Russians remove him from office.
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Jones28
27-02-2022, 12:45 PM
Putin will get deposed before they let him do anything nuclear.
WhileTheChief..
27-02-2022, 12:46 PM
It would be amazing if a new Russia emerged and went down a similar path to that of Ukraine and the Baltic states in the 90s.
The Russian people have a huge opportunity in front of them if some element of the military or whoever can make it happen.
Get Navalny out of jail to lead the way initially in a post-Putin country and they've got a chance.
cabbageandribs1875
27-02-2022, 12:47 PM
he's went mad but the first to use a nuclear weapon will be in serious serious trouble....even from his own countrymen
Santa Cruz
27-02-2022, 12:51 PM
There's nothing about this latest threat on the TV. Ukraine and Russian delegates are meeting on the Ukraine-Belarus border without preconditions is being reported.
Edit: being reported now.
Sir David Gray
27-02-2022, 12:58 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497926480520744962?s=21
Putin puts nuclear forces on alert. He’s getting desperate.
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Brutal news.
LeithMike
27-02-2022, 01:11 PM
The army barely seem to understand why they're fighting, I doubt they would end civilisation as we know it under these circumstances.
They've been trained their entire lives not to question Putin or orders. Hard to change that now. It just shows the dangers of autocracies where scrutiny and accountability are crushed.
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LeithMike
27-02-2022, 01:14 PM
And now that he has threatened it, the west should use their dismantling as a precondition for the lifting of sanctions when the Russians remove him from office.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAbsolutely. Conducting a training exercise with 200,000 troops on another nation's border should have triggered sanctions.
Putin has now gone to a place where he has no return. That in itself makes it all the more dangerous.
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LunasBoots
27-02-2022, 01:17 PM
Putin needs taken out from the inside, guys clearly lost his mind.
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 01:20 PM
Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
#Breaking Negotiations confirmed on the #Ukrainian side. Talks to take place on border between Belarus and Ukraine along Pripyat River
stu in nottingham
27-02-2022, 01:22 PM
Pictures sent from a friend's colleague in Poland near the Ukrainian border. The school has been partially set up as a reception centre for refugees.
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Pretty Boy
27-02-2022, 01:22 PM
No one is going to use nuclear weapons. The whole deterrent with them is that it's mutually assured destruction.
Even if Putin has a condition that has damaged his cognitive function to such an extent the same isn't true of others around him.
GreenNWhiteArmy
27-02-2022, 01:22 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but will talks take place face to face?
And what's to stop Putin taking out Zelensky there and then?
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 01:23 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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1h
BREAKING:
The Czech Republic will launch an initiative that could leave to an EU ban on issuing Schengen visas to Russian citizens.
In effect, Russians would no longer be allowed to visit Europe
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 01:25 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but will talks take place face to face?
And what's to stop Putin taking out Zelensky there and then?
Will be negotiators sent
Santa Cruz
27-02-2022, 01:25 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but will talks take place face to face?
And what's to stop Putin taking out Zelensky there and then?
It's not the President's meeting, they will send delegations. I would think Russia will make demands that Ukraine will reject.
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 01:30 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
The Moscow bank run has started.
A queue for a Tinkoff ATM in recorded at the Liga shopping center in Khimki
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497911378018975745
Rumble de Thump
27-02-2022, 01:32 PM
Putin has never been interested in negotiations or diplomacy in the past few years, despite his pretence. He wants Ukraine to surrender and for it to reject NATO, which is the one thing that could protect it from Russian aggression in the future. There won't be much to be negotiated. Allow yourselves to be conquered or the Russian/Belarussian attack will continue.
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 01:51 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
2m
President Vladimir Putin's order to put Russian nuclear forces on high alert is part of a pattern of Moscow manufacturing threats to justify aggression, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said on Sunday.
"We have the ability to defend ourselves," Psaki said
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 01:54 PM
Seen lots of videos of protests in Belarus today, lots of arrests also
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497945119110144003
People are at the General Staff of the Armed Forces in Minsk Belarus, chanting "Glory to Ukraine
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 01:57 PM
Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba confirms his government will hold talks with Moscow. But "we will not surrender; we will not capitulate," he says
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 02:19 PM
Turkey to close the bosphorus
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
12m
"We have come to the conclusion that the situation in #Ukraine has turned into a war. We will apply the Montreux provisions transparently." - Turkey's Foreign Ministry
Steven79
27-02-2022, 02:21 PM
They've been trained their entire lives not to question Putin or orders. Hard to change that now. It just shows the dangers of autocracies where scrutiny and accountability are crushed.
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And that's where the UK is headed under the Tories...
WeeRussell
27-02-2022, 02:29 PM
I wonder if Putin regrets any of his actions over the past week.
Keith_M
27-02-2022, 02:34 PM
I wonder if Putin regrets any of his actions over the past week.
Reasonable question, but I seriously doubt it
WhileTheChief..
27-02-2022, 02:39 PM
Seen lots of videos of protests in Belarus today, lots of arrests also
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497945119110144003
People are at the General Staff of the Armed Forces in Minsk Belarus, chanting "Glory to Ukraine
Dictators beginning to see how their people really feel. They should read up on Romania.
So it's known that Hitler was a drug addict, regular user of cocaine via eye-drops, daily crystal meth in ever increasing dosages and testosterone injections.
Is there any info out there telling what this twat Putin is on. The hubris is breathtaking.
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Jones28
27-02-2022, 03:16 PM
I wonder if Putin regrets any of his actions over the past week.
I honestly doubt he’s lucid enough to know what’s really going on.
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 03:53 PM
https://twitter.com/ArtemR/status/1497974496736673792
Artem Russakovskii 🇺🇦@ArtemRGeorgian (грузинский) ship crew refuses to refuel a Russian ship that ran out of fuel.
Of course, you'll hear the now classic phrase "Russian ship, go **** yourself" and then some
For those who don't speak Russian, at the end, the Russian ship complains that they're about to run out of fuel one more time, and the Georgians tell them to break out the ores and start rowing
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 03:54 PM
Conflict News
@Conflicts
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16m
BREAKING: European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen announces a shut down of EU airspace to all Russian aircraft
MORE:
@vonderleyen
announces EU ban on Russian state-owned media outlets RT and Sputnik, and their subsidiaries.
In addition, Belarus will be targeted with additional sanctions hitting its most important sectors
StevieC
27-02-2022, 03:57 PM
This is from the girl from our Puzir orphanage in Dnipro that was the first we supported that was accepted into the prestigious Shevchenko University in Kyiv. We have continued supporting her through her studies ..
“ Hi! I have already left Kyiv and I am already in Western Ukraine.
sorry for the long response, those were the hard last days for me, because I was trying to do something to protect myself and my friends who were around me, when war is beginning i was in dormitory in Kyiv, then I asked for advice from friends from Kyiv what to do. All this time I was in touch with Ira Klyus, she connected me with her friend, who was supposed to leave for the West of Ukraine. Then several days on the road and in tension, since it was scary to go through the cities, which Russian troops were shooting at. We still left Kyiv and now we are in Western Ukraine, with friends of my friend. There is still and calm. But I am very worried about my friends from different cities in Ukraine. I am praying for that too much and i’m trying to help people online. I hope this ends soon. It’s happened such quickly! I can’t believe. But i try to keep calm and to do something for support other people!”
Thanks to the many connections that Dnipro Kids has built up over the years, we are hopeful that Natalie will soon be safe in Germany/Austria thanks to a supporter of the charity that is offering to pay her fares to get her there and provide a safe home during the fighting. 👍
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 04:07 PM
Thanks to the many connections that Dnipro Kids has built up over the years, we are hopeful that Natalie will soon be safe in Germany/Austria thanks to a supporter of the charity that is offering to pay her fares to get her there and provide a safe home during the fighting. 👍
Amazing
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 04:09 PM
Alec Luhn
@ASLuhn
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10m
Kyiv says the Iskander missile that hit Zhitomir airport was launched from Belarus. It's getting harder & harder for Lukashenko to argue he's not a party to the conflict. (The missile itself was no doubt Russian) https://unn.com.ua/ru/news/196570
SteveHFC
27-02-2022, 04:10 PM
The European Union has announced that it intends to begin shipping arms to Ukraine, the first time in its history it has taken such a step.
Speaking at a press conference this afternoon, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said the move marked a "watershed moment".
She also announced a raft of new sanctions targeting Russia and Belarus, and a ban on Russia using European airspace.
More details to follow shortly.
Sir David Gray
27-02-2022, 04:16 PM
BP is to exit its shareholding in Russian oil giant Rosneft, the company has announced.
The firm has been under pressure over its nearly 20% holding - on Friday UK business secretary Kwasi Kwarteng is said to have told the oil company’s boss Bernard Looney about his "concern" over the involvement.
"Russia's attack on Ukraine is an act of aggression which is having tragic consequences across the region," BP chair Helge Lund said in a statement.
"BP has operated in Russia for over 30 years, working with brilliant Russian colleagues. However, this military action represents a fundamental change.
"It has led the BP board to conclude, after a thorough process, that our involvement with Rosneft, a state-owned enterprise, simply cannot continue."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60542877?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=621bb072ec502b53cd48006e%26BP%20to%20e xit%20its%20shareholding%20in%20Russian%20energy%2 0giant%20Rosneft%262022-02-27T17%3A13%3A52.904Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:090040bd-5ec8-45e1-bb1d-b3cf184af569&pinned_post_asset_id=621bb072ec502b53cd48006e&pinned_post_type=share
Hibrandenburg
27-02-2022, 04:16 PM
My Russian speaking mother in law has been sent videos from a Russian friend that have been distributed from official Russian sources. She says that in those videos, Russians are being told that Russian citizens are being systematically executed in Ukraine including crucifixion and that's why Russia is trying to liberate them.
Putin is looking for the world to intervene, it's his last throw of the dice and I wouldn't put it past him to press the red button.
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Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 04:16 PM
I can't see the Russian elite having much patience, this will test his grip on powers. Russians not being able to travel to Europe, rubble collapsing, Russian companies unable to trade ect
Javier Blas
@JavierBlas
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2m
BREAKING: BP to exit its 19.75% stake in Russian oil major Rosneft. BP directors on Rosneft resign with immediate effect | #OOTT $BP Full statement here: https://bp.com/content/dam/bp
bigwheel
27-02-2022, 04:19 PM
I can't see the Russian elite having much patience, this will test his grip on powers. Russians not being able to travel to Europe, rubble collapsing, Russian companies unable to trade ect
Javier Blas
@JavierBlas
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2m
BREAKING: BP to exit its 19.75% stake in Russian oil major Rosneft. BP directors on Rosneft resign with immediate effect | #OOTT $BP Full statement here: https://bp.com/content/dam/bp
Don’t think there is anything that can really test Putin’s grip on power at the moment ..unfortunately! He’s got rid of anyone who had a strong voice ….
bigwheel
27-02-2022, 04:20 PM
My Russian speaking mother in law has been sent videos from a Russian friend that have been distributed from official Russian sources. She says that in those videos, Russians are being told that Russian citizens are being systematically executed in Ukraine including crucifixion and that's why Russia is trying to liberate them.
Putin is looking for the world to intervene, it's his last throw of the dice and I wouldn't put it past him to press the red button.
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You get a sense that there is nothing that he wouldn’t do. He feels he is invincible.
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 04:23 PM
My Russian speaking mother in law has been sent videos from a Russian friend that have been distributed from official Russian sources. She says that in those videos, Russians are being told that Russian citizens are being systematically executed in Ukraine including crucifixion and that's why Russia is trying to liberate them.
Putin is looking for the world to intervene, it's his last throw of the dice and I wouldn't put it past him to press the red button.
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I think the problem for him is the older generation will believe his stories especially if fed from rt. The younger generation are on social media and will be seeing the truth, hence him trying to take down Facebook and twitter. Amnesty says 150 arrested in Belarus today protesting so I assume the same there.
Time for his generals to step up unless they are as unhinged as him. Because as you say you don't want a sociopath that's backed into a corner. He's undone 20 years of work in Europe in 3 days, he could be too far gone now
Jim44
27-02-2022, 04:28 PM
My Russian speaking mother in law has been sent videos from a Russian friend that have been distributed from official Russian sources. She says that in those videos, Russians are being told that Russian citizens are being systematically executed in Ukraine including crucifixion and that's why Russia is trying to liberate them.
Putin is looking for the world to intervene, it's his last throw of the dice and I wouldn't put it past him to press the red button.
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That’s a very possible and worrying scenario. Unless I’ve misread it, he has total autonomy over the red button and his obvious mental health problems could push him over the edge into doing the unthinkable.
Renfrew_Hibby
27-02-2022, 04:29 PM
I think the problem for him is the older generation will believe his stories especially if fed from rt. The younger generation are on social media and will be seeing the truth, hence him trying to take down Facebook and twitter. Amnesty says 150 arrested in Belarus today protesting so I assume the same there.
Time for his generals to step up unless they are as unhinged as him. Because as you say you don't want a sociopath that's backed into a corner. He's undone 20 years of work in Europe in 3 days, he could be too far gone now
RT is mild, not too many Russians watch the local service. More get their news content from places like Russia 24 and Vesti. Makes Fox in America look like the bbc world service.
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 04:31 PM
Sweeden ends a century of neutrality and send weapons to a nation at war
Hugo Kaaman
@HKaaman
· 19m
Sweden just announced it will deliver 5000 anti-armour rocket launchers, 5000 body armour kits, 5000 helmets, and 135,000 field rations to the Ukrainian armed forces
Renfrew_Hibby
27-02-2022, 04:34 PM
[QUOTE=WhileTheChief..;6872668]It would be amazing if a new Russia emerged and went down a similar path to that of Ukraine and the Baltic states in the 90s.
The Russian people have a huge opportunity in front of them if some element of the military or whoever can make it happen.
Agreed. Russia could be a truly amazing county. Siberia is absolutely awesome from the Puturana plateau in the North through to lakes Baikal and Teletskoye down to the amazing Altai in the South. I dream of seeing these places but for now it's only a dream.
Gatecrasher
27-02-2022, 04:45 PM
This is getting pretty embarrassing for Putin lol. His army looks inept and Russia is getting hammered left, right and centre from sanctions. It will be a miracle if he survives, and I mean with his life not just politically.
LeithMike
27-02-2022, 04:48 PM
No one is going to use nuclear weapons. The whole deterrent with them is that it's mutually assured destruction.
Even if Putin has a condition that has damaged his cognitive function to such an extent the same isn't true of others around him.I really hope you are right PB. The failure of the political, military and media machinery don't give me much confidence and I suspect any general who showed the capability of independent thinking would have been demoted a long time ago.
Hopefully somehow, there are some good men and women in there.
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Jim44
27-02-2022, 05:09 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
2m
President Vladimir Putin's order to put Russian nuclear forces on high alert is part of a pattern of Moscow manufacturing threats to justify aggression, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said on Sunday.
"We have the ability to defend ourselves," Psaki said
How do you defend against a nuclear attack? Blast one back, put your fingers in your ear and hope for the best?
Sir David Gray
27-02-2022, 05:10 PM
We told you not long ago that an adviser to Ukraine's interior minister reported that missiles had been launched from Belarus into northern Ukraine (see our post at 4.34 GMT).
He now says they hit an airport in the city of Zhytomyr.
"This is what's been hit by the Iskanders fired from Belarus at about 17:00... the Russian and Belarusian fascists have targeted Zhytomyr Airport," Anton Herashchenko posted on Telegram.
Ukrainian and Russian officials are to meet for talks on the Belarusian border with Ukraine, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's office said earlier, without saying when.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60542877?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=621bb07fec502b53cd48006f%26Missiles%20 from%20Belarus%20hit%20airport%20-%20Ukrainian%20official%262022-02-27T17%3A27%3A34.477Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:4a181f35-c62b-4f00-a93a-bf797d499cc2&pinned_post_asset_id=621bb07fec502b53cd48006f&pinned_post_type=share
stokesmessiah
27-02-2022, 05:18 PM
How do you defend against a nuclear attack? Blast one back, put your fingers in your ear and hope for the best?
The US has a missile defence system…
LunasBoots
27-02-2022, 05:27 PM
Sanctions and the West arming Ukraine has had a bad effect on Putin after all
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 05:39 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
BREAKING: Danish PM Mette Frederiksen just announced that Denmark will send 2700 handheld anti-tank weapons and a number of spare parts to anti-air Stinger missiles Ukraine.
She said she will also allow volunteers to go fight for Ukraine
SteveHFC
27-02-2022, 05:49 PM
https://twitter.com/polinaivanovva/status/1498002635881918468?s=21
Kyiv’s mayor says the city is now completely surrounded and all exits blocked by Russian troops. No way to evacuate civilians.
Siege begins.
Radium
27-02-2022, 05:52 PM
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Willis1875
27-02-2022, 05:55 PM
https://twitter.com/polinaivanovva/status/1498002635881918468?s=21
Kyiv’s mayor says the city is now completely surrounded and all exits blocked by Russian troops. No way to evacuate civilians.
Siege begins.
If this is the case and the rumoured talks are to take place then Russia will be doing so from an extremely strong position of strength
Sir David Gray
27-02-2022, 05:59 PM
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Well done to the FA but I wish they wouldn't call them "the Ukraine".
Ozyhibby
27-02-2022, 06:04 PM
If this is the case and the rumoured talks are to take place then Russia will be doing so from an extremely strong position of strength
Do you think so? I would think that Russia will be under a fair amount of strain as well?
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SaulGoodman
27-02-2022, 06:05 PM
If this is the case and the rumoured talks are to take place then Russia will be doing so from an extremely strong position of strength
Yep. I also think that’s why Putin has armed his nuclear defences or whatever words to that effect the Kremlin used, just to make their bargaining power as strong as possible for these negotiations.
I can see this war ending, but Russia getting their way in the end. Doesn’t bode well for the future.
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 06:22 PM
If this is the case and the rumoured talks are to take place then Russia will be doing so from an extremely strong position of strength
They aren't real talks. Russia wants full surrender Zelinsky has said he won't give up an inch of Ukraine and every man will fight. Both parties had to say they had tried. Russian economy will be crippled tomorrow, he's all in now
Sir David Gray
27-02-2022, 06:26 PM
FIFA orders Russia to play without their national flag and anthem.
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 06:30 PM
FIFA orders Russia to play without their national flag and anthem.
How's that an answer, the other teams say they won't play. Fifa are more corrupt than putin
SaulGoodman
27-02-2022, 06:34 PM
FIFA orders Russia to play without their national flag and anthem.
That’ll show them
Ozyhibby
27-02-2022, 06:35 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1498016393694003208?s=21
Had a very non PC laugh at this.
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Sir David Gray
27-02-2022, 06:36 PM
How's that an answer, the other teams say they won't play. Fifa are more corrupt than putin
Maybe suggests that Poland aren't going to get away with their refusal to play Russia in the play offs next month?
Bostonhibby
27-02-2022, 06:43 PM
FIFA orders Russia to play without their national flag and anthem.Now is the time for right thinking countries to break away from Fifa or at the very least withdraw from these tournaments where Russia are playing albeit with this laughable sanction. Fifa is likely compromised in its relationship with the russian filth here.
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Willis1875
27-02-2022, 06:43 PM
https://twitter.com/dgisserious/status/1497935805570027525?s=21
Hard as nails these guys….all whilst he’s got a fag hanging out his mouth
cabbageandribs1875
27-02-2022, 06:44 PM
the organisers of the eurovision song whatever it's called have hit Russia harder than FIFA
Mr Grieves
27-02-2022, 06:49 PM
https://twitter.com/BBCkatyaadler/status/1498017173792514051?s=19
EU announces it has agreed unanimously amongst all member countries to take in Ukrainian refugees for up to 3 years without asking them to first apply for asylum. Just been announced following a meeting of EU Interior ministers
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 06:58 PM
Guy Elster
@guyelster
#BREAKING Satellite firm Maxar says latest images show large deployment of Russian ground troops moving in direction of #Kyiv, approximately 64 km away, extends more than 5 km and contains fuel, tanks
Maybe suggests that Poland aren't going to get away with their refusal to play Russia in the play offs next month?
How the hell is any Russian team (club/national) going to get anywhere to play in any European or world competition?
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 07:00 PM
Cezary Kulesza
@Czarek_Kulesza
Today's FIFA decision is unacceptable to us. In the situation of the war in Ukraine, we are not interested in the game of appearances. Our position remains the same: the Polish national team WILL NOT PLAY against Russia in the play-off match, regardless of the name of the Russian team. #solidarnizukraina
Jones28
27-02-2022, 07:01 PM
https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1497895706568237056?s=21
This is a breakdown of Russian losses so far from the Kyiv Independent.
706 armoured personnel carriers. That is bonkers.
Jones28
27-02-2022, 07:01 PM
Cezary Kulesza
@Czarek_Kulesza
Today's FIFA decision is unacceptable to us. In the situation of the war in Ukraine, we are not interested in the game of appearances. Our position remains the same: the Polish national team WILL NOT PLAY against Russia in the play-off match, regardless of the name of the Russian team. #solidarnizukraina
Brilliant 🙌🙌
That’s a very possible and worrying scenario. Unless I’ve misread it, he has total autonomy over the red button and his obvious mental health problems could push him over the edge into doing the unthinkable.Which source says he has autonomy over any nuclear launch?
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Callum_62
27-02-2022, 07:11 PM
https://twitter.com/BBCkatyaadler/status/1498017173792514051?s=19
EU announces it has agreed unanimously amongst all member countries to take in Ukrainian refugees for up to 3 years without asking them to first apply for asylum. Just been announced following a meeting of EU Interior ministershttps://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1498018030449790984?t=rDCtp4vMwup_Ll-OGmF3Hg&s=19
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Ozyhibby
27-02-2022, 07:17 PM
https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1498018030449790984?t=rDCtp4vMwup_Ll-OGmF3Hg&s=19
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Hardly as generous as offering them a job picking fruit.
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Mr Grieves
27-02-2022, 07:17 PM
https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1498018030449790984?t=rDCtp4vMwup_Ll-OGmF3Hg&s=19
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The UK government confirming only Ukranian refugees with immediate family members in the UK can travel here
Callum_62
27-02-2022, 07:20 PM
The UK government confirming only Ukranian refugees with immediate family members in the UK can travel hereI'm not surpised given my previous dealings with the home office
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makaveli1875
27-02-2022, 07:21 PM
The UK government confirming only Ukranian refugees with immediate family members in the UK can travel here
They can’t be serious
Jones28
27-02-2022, 07:28 PM
The UK government confirming only Ukranian refugees with immediate family members in the UK can travel here
What the **** have we become?
Bostonhibby
27-02-2022, 07:30 PM
What the **** have we become?A country that is governed by the Nasty party with a leadership that is all about soundbite and photo opportunity.
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Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 07:30 PM
Guy Elster
@guyelster
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9m
#Ukraine's health ministry said that 352 civilians, including 14 children, had been killed since the beginning of #Russia's. It also said that 1,684 people, including 116 children, had been wounded. No word about military casualties
BREAKING US citizens should consider departing #Russia immediately: State Department
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 07:36 PM
AFP News Agency
@AFP
#BREAKING EU countries will provide 'fighter jets' to Ukraine under Brussels funding: Borrell
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 07:38 PM
Johannes Boie
@johannesboie
#Kiew can still be reached. @ronzheimer just told our editorial office in Berlin that the city’s mayor Vitali Klitschko emphasized, that fighting around the city was still going on and that the city has not been cut off. However, civilians cannot leave Kiew due to curfews. @bild
Pretty Boy
27-02-2022, 07:38 PM
The UK govt are, not at all surprisingly, really letting themselves down with the refugee situation.
There are elements of this crisis they have handled well but we are on the cusp of a humanitarian crisis, if we aren't already there. It's time to follow the lead of the EU and other neighbouring countries and make safe passage as easy as possible.
Tambo
27-02-2022, 07:52 PM
For me Putin is playing the long game, if he wanted Kyiv so bad surely he could take it?
He's waiting for someone to help Ukraine physically so he can really get power crazy and ugly, guy seems a nut job for power.
I seen an article North Korea have been testing and firing missiles into the sea of Japan.
grunt
27-02-2022, 07:54 PM
The UK govt are, not at all surprisingly, really letting themselves down with the refugee situation.
It seems that every time there's a decision to be made, and it is easy to see which way these decisions should be made, this Government makes the wrong decision.
Every time. Every time.
Jones28
27-02-2022, 07:57 PM
For me Putin is playing the long game, if he wanted Kyiv so bad surely he could take it?
He's waiting for someone to help Ukraine physically so he can really get power crazy and ugly, guy seems a nut job for power.
I seen an article North Korea have been testing and firing missiles into the sea of Japan.
Haven’t NK been launching rockets in to the sea of Japan for decades? I dont think that’s anything new.
Jones28
27-02-2022, 07:59 PM
The UK govt are, not at all surprisingly, really letting themselves down with the refugee situation.
There are elements of this crisis they have handled well but we are on the cusp of a humanitarian crisis, if we aren't already there. It's time to follow the lead of the EU and other neighbouring countries and make safe passage as easy as possible.
Opening our borders - even if it is to people who’s country has been invaded by Russia - does not fly with their core vote.
Ozyhibby
27-02-2022, 08:06 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1498040323133558785?s=21
There are good few miles of streets in Kyiv for the Russians to get to the centre even if they manage to breach the perimeter.
Those anti tank NLAW that we provided only cost £20k each. I think it might not be easy to get through Kyiv.
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Moulin Yarns
27-02-2022, 08:10 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-60541028
Let it in, just don't let it out again, fishing boats blockade!!
Simples as Sergey would say 😁
Tambo
27-02-2022, 08:28 PM
Haven’t NK been launching rockets in to the sea of Japan for decades? I dont think that’s anything new.
I would assume so it's just the timing of the retesting so maybe just getting prepared for anything.
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 08:33 PM
Well obviously..
NEXTA@nexta_tv·10m⚡️
Aeroflot announced that it will stop flights to #Europe from February 28
Renfrew_Hibby
27-02-2022, 08:47 PM
The US has a missile defence system…
Have we or I'm I a gonner if they decide to neutralise faslane?
LunasBoots
27-02-2022, 08:57 PM
Have we or I'm I a gonner if they decide to neutralise faslane?
Yes we have some kind of missile defence system, how good it is who knows, hopefully we never find out. Also will be a trident nuke sub out in the sea somewhere right now awaiting orders no doubt.
Haven’t NK been launching rockets in to the sea of Japan for decades? I dont think that’s anything new.
Yeah. Same target for 30 years.
It's still there but the sea is full of bits of rocket for miles around!
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 09:13 PM
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1498054911900200961
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
#Ukrainian Roman Yaremchuk, entering the field as part of the Lisbon Benfica, faced very warm support and could not hold back his tears
James310
27-02-2022, 09:17 PM
Yes we have some kind of missile defence system, how good it is who knows, hopefully we never find out. Also will be a trident nuke sub out in the sea somewhere right now awaiting orders no doubt.
There is always one Trident sub somewhere in the world on active duty, it can receive communications but never sends any incase it gives away it's location. Likely lurking somewhere in a deep undersea crevice somewhere in the Atlantic.
CropleyWasGod
27-02-2022, 09:19 PM
There is always one Trident sub somewhere in the world on active duty, it can receive communions but never sends any incase it gives away it's location. Likely lurking somewhere in a deep undersea crevice somewhere in the Atlantic.
Think we all might need to receive communion soon. 😑
CapitalGreen
27-02-2022, 09:24 PM
There is always one Trident sub somewhere in the world on active duty, it can receive communions but never sends any incase it gives away it's location. Likely lurking somewhere in a deep undersea crevice somewhere in the Atlantic.
Aye we all watched Vigil too.
James310
27-02-2022, 09:26 PM
Aye we all watched Vigil too.
Never saw it, thought it was supposed to be rubbish.
James310
27-02-2022, 09:31 PM
Think we all might need to receive communion soon. 😑
And confessions!
Coco Bryce
27-02-2022, 09:37 PM
There is always one Trident sub somewhere in the world on active duty, it can receive communications but never sends any incase it gives away it's location. Likely lurking somewhere in a deep undersea crevice somewhere in the Atlantic.
I know a guy who worked on submarines. Used to go away for months at a.time and even his wife had no idea where he was was or even heard from him till he got home.
Ozyhibby
27-02-2022, 09:38 PM
https://twitter.com/osicnick/status/1498022940759240717?s=21
There is a real tank theft epidemic developing in Ukraine.
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CropleyWasGod
27-02-2022, 09:47 PM
I know a guy who worked on submarines. Used to go away for months at a.time and even his wife had no idea where he was was or even heard from him till he got home.
I had a mate like that.
Used to tell his wife that the Forth Bridge shut at midnight .
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 09:50 PM
Raf Sanchez
@rafsanchez
My hotel in Moscow asked me to settle the bill early because they aren’t sure if credit cards are going to work once SWIFT sanctions kick in.
James310
27-02-2022, 09:51 PM
Raf Sanchez
@rafsanchez
My hotel in Moscow asked me to settle the bill early because they aren’t sure if credit cards are going to work once SWIFT sanctions kick in.
The rouble taking a hit in early trading as well. Not sure what that means for the ordinary Russian but it's things like that that will make a difference when it starts making a difference to the ordinary Russian on the street.
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 09:52 PM
Samuel Ramani
@SamRamani2
BREAKING: Kosovo asks the US for a permanent military base and requests NATO membership
Stairway 2 7
27-02-2022, 09:56 PM
The rouble taking a hit in early trading as well. Not sure what that means for the ordinary Russian but it's things like that that will make a difference when it starts making a difference to the ordinary Russian on the street.
It's going to take a battering tomorrow. Shame for the average Russian with savings
Sir David Gray
27-02-2022, 10:05 PM
Ukraine's military has just given an update on Sunday's fighting.
Writing on Facebook, the general staff of Ukraine's armed forces described Sunday as "a difficult time" for the military, saying Russian troops "continue shelling in almost all directions".
Latest reports suggest Russian troops have taken Berdyansk, a southern port, but earlier Ukraine said it had fought back an attack on the country's second biggest city, Kharkiv.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60542877?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=621c0170980bea49f4b7a654%26%27Difficul t%20time%27%20for%20Ukraine%27s%20army%262022-02-27T22%3A57%3A05.258Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:d9b203fa-9466-41f4-b79a-2edf16eb6149&pinned_post_asset_id=621c0170980bea49f4b7a654&pinned_post_type=share
Ozyhibby
27-02-2022, 11:05 PM
https://twitter.com/iguardans/status/1497982822736437254?s=21
Not guilty your honour.
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StevieC
27-02-2022, 11:07 PM
Worrying times in Dnipro. Today there were 4 air raid warnings in the city, although thankfully the expected missile attacks never materialised.
The image below shows the probable positions of Russian advancements, and their vicinity to Dnipro.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/w8KzsBaws2RCnfF98
They are very close to surrounding Zaporozhia, and if it falls then Dnipro will be the next target. Dnipro will be heavily defended, as it is a military staging post for manoeuvres on the front lines .. but that will also make it a target and like Kyiv and Kharkiv could encounter heavy fighting around the outskirts (where a few of our orphanages are situated).
Worrying times in Dnipro. Today there were 4 air raid warnings in the city, although thankfully the expected missile attacks never materialised.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/w8KzsBaws2RCnfF98
Worrying times in the days ahead.
Jim44
28-02-2022, 01:22 AM
Which source says he has autonomy over any nuclear launch?
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I can’t remember where I read it. It certainly wasn’t from the fountains of knowledge on this forum.:greengrin
cabbageandribs1875
28-02-2022, 02:06 AM
Thousands attend Ukraine solidarity march in Berlin | Russia-Ukraine crisis News | Al Jazeera (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/27/thousands-attend-ukraine-solidarity-march-in-berlin) whether 100k or 500k, damn impressive turnout Berlin #NoToWar yesterday
https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/274816812_4704264793005603_3204649946499310359_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=rSxF_eLA0r0AX_mV9mV&_nc_oc=AQkgMKZ54TQ2ktOtNTb2r-RoHDm3LNfrYu3hBxgP33COFH0YRmZPPxofM6rDbW93QYw&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT9C76ArqCwY5lRy-tCEunyQyaWQmcmlIeaztggQPYSJyA&oe=6221B7A9
Hibrandenburg
28-02-2022, 02:39 AM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1498040323133558785?s=21
There are good few miles of streets in Kyiv for the Russians to get to the centre even if they manage to breach the perimeter.
Those anti tank NLAW that we provided only cost £20k each. I think it might not be easy to get through Kyiv.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI'll take a couple off your hands for that price.
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Ozyhibby
28-02-2022, 04:15 AM
https://twitter.com/mcfaul/status/1498057338749472770?s=21
Even the Swiss are not neutral on this.
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hibsbollah
28-02-2022, 05:43 AM
I know a guy who worked on submarines. Used to go away for months at a.time and even his wife had no idea where he was was or even heard from him till he got home.
My early married life was very much like this. Nothing to do with submarines.
Hibs4185
28-02-2022, 06:09 AM
I know a guy who worked on submarines. Used to go away for months at a.time and even his wife had no idea where he was was or even heard from him till he got home.
Might tell my wife I’m joining a submarine crew
Sir David Gray
28-02-2022, 06:09 AM
Terrifying.
Ukraine invasion: Would Putin press the nuclear button?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60551140
Ozyhibby
28-02-2022, 06:10 AM
Russian central bank has just put interest rates up to 20% to protect the rouble. [emoji102]
And it still won’t work.
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makaveli1875
28-02-2022, 06:31 AM
Terrifying.
Ukraine invasion: Would Putin press the nuclear button?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60551140
Of course he would. He's unhinged and I think if his backed into a corner he'll try and take everyone down with him
Jim44
28-02-2022, 06:48 AM
Terrifying.
Ukraine invasion: Would Putin press the nuclear button?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60551140
Whenever that question arises, the ‘no he wouldn’t/couldn’t’ conclusion seems to apply. That BBC article casts quite strong insight to his mindset and strong possibility that he ‘can and would’. He is capable of adopting anti Christ status.
JimBHibees
28-02-2022, 06:56 AM
Might tell my wife I’m joining a submarine crew
:greengrin
JimBHibees
28-02-2022, 07:00 AM
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1498054911900200961
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
#Ukrainian Roman Yaremchuk, entering the field as part of the Lisbon Benfica, faced very warm support and could not hold back his tears
Brilliant to see but heartbreaking at the same time
Stairway 2 7
28-02-2022, 07:09 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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20m
#Sberbank bans withdrawals from investment accounts for the next 10 days
Ben Judah
@b_judah
· 4h
The Ruble has already lost over 40% of its value — which exceeds the worst day of the 1998 collapse. Gleb Pavlovsky once told me the default that followed was the “second founding of the state.” I am certain the crash we are about to see will in many ways come to be the third
Stairway 2 7
28-02-2022, 07:13 AM
OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical
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56m
Ukrainian MOD reports 5300 Russian casualties
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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1h
The #Finnish corporation #S-ryhmä, owning the second largest number of supermarket in the country, is removing goods from #Russia from the shelves
Stairway 2 7
28-02-2022, 08:12 AM
Why does Putin think these people will just be happy to become Russian
https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1498222205901185029
People in Berdyansk sing the Ukrainian national anthem in front of Russian forces standing guard at the city council #Ukraine
Ozyhibby
28-02-2022, 08:13 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220228/02015c47d44e85bd382002ea4d76dc80.jpg
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Stairway 2 7
28-02-2022, 08:14 AM
Guy Elster
@guyelster
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24m
#BREAKING #Ukraine president's office says its main goal of talks with Russia is immediate ceasefire and withdrawal of Russian troops
heretoday
28-02-2022, 08:15 AM
Of course he would. He's unhinged and I think if his backed into a corner he'll try and take everyone down with him
He'll trigger Armageddon unless Russia regains its empire.
His people have to be convinced that they and their families face obliteration if he goes ahead. Is that what they want?
hibsbollah
28-02-2022, 08:19 AM
I think sensible heads in the West will now be thinking about ways to allow Russia to withdraw from this with some semblance of security; financial, economic, strategic. The last thing you want when dealing with a nuclear power on their version of defcon5 is economic collapse and having nothing left to lose.
SaulGoodman
28-02-2022, 08:26 AM
Think the end game will be:
Ukraine doesn’t join NATO
NATO withdraws from countries on Russia’s border
Russia withdraws from Ukraine
Russian sanctions removed.
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