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Ozyhibby
12-03-2022, 10:49 PM
Iranian rockets just hit US embassy in Erbil. US plane already on way to Tehran. [emoji51]


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Bostonhibby
13-03-2022, 12:23 AM
https://twitter.com/harryyorke1/status/1502718349637300236?s=21

Starmer asking for the advice to be published.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkGood luck with that, good political move but seriously doubt Nasty party supporters will care about what it means and if it ever sees the light of day.

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Stairway 2 7
13-03-2022, 06:33 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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#British families who house refugees from #Ukraine will get £350 a month in return.

The government's Homes for Ukraine program encourages people to give a refugee a spare room or vacant property for at least six months

Stairway 2 7
13-03-2022, 06:38 AM
Abramovich not sanctioned by the EU but not taking chances, also got rid of his house in Paris

NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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The Solaris yacht of the #Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich was transferred from the port of #Barcelona to #Montenegro

Since Montenegro is not a member of the #EU, Union sanctions will not give the Government of Montenegro grounds to arrest the yacht

DaveF
13-03-2022, 06:48 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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#British families who house refugees from #Ukraine will get £350 a month in return.

The government's Homes for Ukraine program encourages people to give a refugee a spare room or vacant property for at least six months

Are there catches to this (ie, satisfying lengthy visa requirements etc..)

Stairway 2 7
13-03-2022, 06:53 AM
Are there catches to this (ie, satisfying lengthy visa requirements etc..)

Under the scheme Ukrainians who are matched and housed with a UK “sponsor” will be granted leave to remain for three years. They will be able to work, claim benefits and access public services in that time.

The UK-based sponsors, who will be able to register to take in refugees on a website to be launched on Monday, will be asked to provide homes or a spare room rent-free for as a long as they can, with a minimum requirement of six months. Those applying will be vetted and Ukrainian applicants will undergo security checks.

Hibrandenburg
13-03-2022, 06:54 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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#British families who house refugees from #Ukraine will get £350 a month in return.

The government's Homes for Ukraine program encourages people to give a refugee a spare room or vacant property for at least six monthsAs things stand, that's like offering free accommodation on the moon.

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Mr Grieves
13-03-2022, 06:57 AM
Are there catches to this (ie, satisfying lengthy visa requirements etc..)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60724111

But the Refugee Council - a charity supporting refugees and asylum seekers in the UK - said it was concerned that people from Ukraine were facing further "bureaucratic hurdles", and said the government scheme fell short of what was needed.

"We are concerned that people from Ukraine are still not being recognised as refugees and being asked to apply for visas when they just need to be guaranteed protection.

"By establishing a visa route and naming scheme, it will inevitably be restricted to those who are known to people in the UK and be a quite complex lengthy visa application process."

It said it was also worried about the support available to sponsors.

"We are talking about very traumatised women and children whose experiences are unique, and the level of support needs to match that.

"It's like asking people to be foster carers without any robust checks, training or having a social worker in place to support them."

Jones28
13-03-2022, 06:58 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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#British families who house refugees from #Ukraine will get £350 a month in return.

The government's Homes for Ukraine program encourages people to give a refugee a spare room or vacant property for at least six months

From a purely financial point of view, that’s not enough money to cover the bills and food costs.

Stairway 2 7
13-03-2022, 07:03 AM
From a purely financial point of view, that’s not enough money to cover the bills and food costs.

Assuming it's on top of benefits so you wouldn't be feeding and obviously optional

Willis1875
13-03-2022, 07:08 AM
From a purely financial point of view, that’s not enough money to cover the bills and food costs.

Would cover a couple of days Gas and Leccy

Mr Grieves
13-03-2022, 07:10 AM
Scottish and Welsh governments calling for the end of visa requirements and looking to speed up the whole process for Ukrainian refugees.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60722616

Andy Bee
13-03-2022, 07:58 AM
Abramovich not sanctioned by the EU but not taking chances, also got rid of his house in Paris

NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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The Solaris yacht of the #Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich was transferred from the port of #Barcelona to #Montenegro

Since Montenegro is not a member of the #EU, Union sanctions will not give the Government of Montenegro grounds to arrest the yacht

I watched his other yacht Eclipse on tracker software yesterday, the big one with missile detection, bullet proof glass and a submarine, sail through the Gibraltar straights making sure it never touched the British side, not that BJ would've touched it anyway.

Stairway 2 7
13-03-2022, 08:21 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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People around the world use the website http://1920.in to text random #Russians about the war in #Ukraine.

It was developed by programmers (
@squad3o3
) who have more than 20 million mobile numbers and nearly 140 million email addresses belonging to Rusians

The site randomly generates numbers and addresses from these databases and allows a person anywhere in the world to send a message. One can write one's own or use a pre-prepared message urging one to bypass the #Kremlin's media censorship and learn the truth

Bostonhibby
13-03-2022, 08:33 AM
Looking forward to our government cracking down on the telegraph?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220313/3b35c41d9c7ab60670a4c06633fb6c9b.jpg

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Fuzzywuzzy
13-03-2022, 08:39 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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People around the world use the website http://1920.in to text random #Russians about the war in #Ukraine.

It was developed by programmers (
@squad3o3
) who have more than 20 million mobile numbers and nearly 140 million email addresses belonging to Rusians

The site randomly generates numbers and addresses from these databases and allows a person anywhere in the world to send a message. One can write one's own or use a pre-prepared message urging one to bypass the #Kremlin's media censorship and learn the truth

And here is the text, truely inspiring 🤨

Dear Russians, your media is being censored. The Kremlin is lying. Find out the truth about Ukraine on the free web and on the Telegram app. Time to overthrow dictator Putin!

Callum_62
13-03-2022, 10:13 AM
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1502673952572854278?t=sRT25sButP9FjRpEv1yCPQ&s=19

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Stairway 2 7
13-03-2022, 11:00 AM
Leonid Ragozin
@leonidragozin
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Encouraging comments about progress in peace talks by Zelensky’s advisor Milhaylo Podolyak. He says the sides are now talking non-stop in video conferencing mode. Working groups have been created to cover specific issues. Inching towards compromise.
https://kommersant.ru/doc/5252292

Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
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Yesterday saw very few Russian advance. Interestingly, Russian forces seem to have focused on the Donbass, including with an attack against Mariupol, and a continued attempt to surround Severodonetsk

I doubt #Russia is dropping its more ambitious goal for now, but I would not rule out that it's now more seriously considering a more limited goal (Luhansk, Donetsk and Kherson Provinces) as a Plan B to call its "special military operation" (invasion) a success

I personally think, Plan A is still far more ambitious, and liable to prompt another escalation in violence, but Russia may have started considering more limited goals

degenerated
13-03-2022, 11:23 AM
Leonid Ragozin
@leonidragozin
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Encouraging comments about progress in peace talks by Zelensky’s advisor Milhaylo Podolyak. He says the sides are now talking non-stop in video conferencing mode. Working groups have been created to cover specific issues. Inching towards compromise.
https://kommersant.ru/doc/5252292

Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
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Yesterday saw very few Russian advance. Interestingly, Russian forces seem to have focused on the Donbass, including with an attack against Mariupol, and a continued attempt to surround Severodonetsk

I doubt #Russia is dropping its more ambitious goal for now, but I would not rule out that it's now more seriously considering a more limited goal (Luhansk, Donetsk and Kherson Provinces) as a Plan B to call its "special military operation" (invasion) a success

I personally think, Plan A is still far more ambitious, and liable to prompt another escalation in violence, but Russia may have started considering more limited goalsNot ideal for Ukraine but in terms of world security a pause in the madness might be a good thing.
With India accidentally firing a missile into Pakistan on Friday and Iran firing missiles at Erbil last night we could do with a time out before it all goes mammaries skywards.

Ozyhibby
13-03-2022, 11:36 AM
Leonid Ragozin
@leonidragozin
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Encouraging comments about progress in peace talks by Zelensky’s advisor Milhaylo Podolyak. He says the sides are now talking non-stop in video conferencing mode. Working groups have been created to cover specific issues. Inching towards compromise.
https://kommersant.ru/doc/5252292

Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
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Yesterday saw very few Russian advance. Interestingly, Russian forces seem to have focused on the Donbass, including with an attack against Mariupol, and a continued attempt to surround Severodonetsk

I doubt #Russia is dropping its more ambitious goal for now, but I would not rule out that it's now more seriously considering a more limited goal (Luhansk, Donetsk and Kherson Provinces) as a Plan B to call its "special military operation" (invasion) a success

I personally think, Plan A is still far more ambitious, and liable to prompt another escalation in violence, but Russia may have started considering more limited goals

Ukraine won’t accept Russian troops in Ukraine at all now.


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Stairway 2 7
13-03-2022, 01:43 PM
Christo Grozev
@christogrozev
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Russia's negotiator Slutsky says there's been "significant progress in the negotiations" and he expects there may be a signed deal in the next 2 to 3 days

Christo Grozev
@christogrozev
This is a notable development in light of the growing awareness at the Kremlin of the decrepit state of the RU army & the blunders of the pre-invasion intel. If confirmed by UA side, this would likely mean a truce on Zelenskys' terms

Михайло Подоляк
@Podolyak_M
To clarify. At the negotiations, the RF not putting ultimatums, but carefully listens to our proposals. 🇺🇦 will not give up any of the positions. Our demands are - the end of the war and the withdrawal of RF troops. I see the understanding and there is a dialogue

Stairway 2 7
13-03-2022, 01:49 PM
max seddon
@maxseddon
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Tentative signs of rapprochement in peace talks between Russia and Ukraine.

Russian MP Leonid Slutsky says there's "substantial progress" that "in the coming days, turn into a unified position of both delegations, and in documents ready for signing

Mykhailo Podolyak, a top Zelensky advisor, also says things are moving forward and the Russian side is hearing the Ukrainians out

Moulin Yarns
13-03-2022, 01:52 PM
It has probably been mentioned already but I think it is awful that the Government feels the need to bribe people with £350 a month to house refugees from Ukraine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60724111

Santa Cruz
13-03-2022, 02:20 PM
It has probably been mentioned already but I think it is awful that the Government feels the need to bribe people with £350 a month to house refugees from Ukraine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60724111


It's to assist with additional costs. Think Gov's in EU countries are providing similar financial assistance to support their residents who offer to house Ukranian refugees.

greenginger
13-03-2022, 02:23 PM
It has probably been mentioned already but I think it is awful that the Government feels the need to bribe people with £350 a month to house refugees from Ukraine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60724111

Is it not more likely the money is for food extra heating etc rather than a bribe .

Paul1642
13-03-2022, 02:37 PM
It has probably been mentioned already but I think it is awful that the Government feels the need to bribe people with £350 a month to house refugees from Ukraine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60724111

Helping people who want to take in a refugee but can’t really afford to do so. Awful.

Moulin Yarns
13-03-2022, 02:38 PM
It's to assist with additional costs. Think Gov's in EU countries are providing similar financial assistance to support their residents who offer to house Ukranian refugees.


Is it not more likely the money is for food extra heating etc rather than a bribe .

I get that, but elsewhere in Europe it is being offered after the fact rather than here, in 'Great' Britain where it is being offered up front to encourage people to get money!!!!

If I had the room it would be offered regardless of the bribe. I doubt it would cost more in electricity to offer a room under the current energy crisis in 'great' britain. Not forgetting the truth that two can eat pretty much the same as one, cost wise.

Paul1642
13-03-2022, 02:42 PM
I get that, but elsewhere in Europe it is being offered after the fact rather than here, in 'Great' Britain where it is being offered up front to encourage people to get money!!!!

If I had the room it would be offered regardless of the bribe. I doubt it would cost more in electricity to offer a room under the current energy crisis in 'great' britain. Not forgetting the truth that two can eat pretty much the same as one, cost wise.

These poor folk will be coming over here with potentially just the clothes on their backs, having been used to a lifestyle not so different to our own a few months ago. They don’t just need a bed and a few cheap meals. If they are here for numerous months they are going to need clothes, a phone to contact their family’s, transport money to get about. Not everyone who want a to help can afford to provide those things without a little help.

Moulin Yarns
13-03-2022, 03:10 PM
These poor folk will be coming over here with potentially just the clothes on their backs, having been used to a lifestyle not so different to our own a few months ago. They don’t just need a bed and a few cheap meals. If they are here for numerous months they are going to need clothes, a phone to contact their family’s, transport money to get about. Not everyone who want a to help can afford to provide those things without a little help.

Yet our government are offering the £350 to those who offer a room rather than those who ACTUALLY need the cash help, to buy clothes, provisions and a phone to call home! Glad you pointed that out. :thumbsup:

Jack
13-03-2022, 03:11 PM
These poor folk will be coming over here with potentially just the clothes on their backs, having been used to a lifestyle not so different to our own a few months ago. They don’t just need a bed and a few cheap meals. If they are here for numerous months they are going to need clothes, a phone to contact their family’s, transport money to get about. Not everyone who want a to help can afford to provide those things without a little help.

The £350 is just for the host. I think the refugees will get (limited) benefits that will allow them to get the other stuff you mentioned.

Stairway 2 7
13-03-2022, 03:18 PM
The £350 is just for the host. I think the refugees will get (limited) benefits that will allow them to get the other stuff you mentioned.

He says in the message this will help people help the Ukrainians. The Ukrainians will get full benefits for 3 years. It's obviously a good thing but the question should be why isn't it the same for every refugee that comes

He's here!
13-03-2022, 03:24 PM
Helping people who want to take in a refugee but can’t really afford to do so. Awful.

Indeed. Risible that anyone would actually find fault with this. A 'bribe'...jeez.

Kato
13-03-2022, 03:44 PM
Given the Covid Emergency payment fraud I'm willing to bet there will landlords lining up phantom refugees as we speak.

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Moulin Yarns
13-03-2022, 03:50 PM
Indeed. Risible that anyone would actually find fault with this. A 'bribe'...jeez.


As I've said above, had I had suitable room I'd have done it without a thought of financial gain from the 'great' british government. i don't need any incentive/bribe/financial gain. Already donated 2x3 figure sums.

McD
13-03-2022, 04:15 PM
As I've said above, had I had suitable room I'd have done it without a thought of financial gain from the 'great' british government. i don't need any incentive/bribe/financial gain. Already donated 2x3 figure sums.


Not everyone has that capability, and this payment will help people to be able to help out refugees.

there will be people who want to help but can’t afford to, can barely afford to feed and heat their families as it is. You think it’s bad the govt (much maligned for other reasons) are trying to support anyone who wants to give someone a roof, heating, shelter and safety?

Ozyhibby
13-03-2022, 04:30 PM
Loads to fault this govt for but this payment isn’t one of them. It’s a good idea.


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Paul1642
13-03-2022, 04:40 PM
As I've said above, had I had suitable room I'd have done it without a thought of financial gain from the 'great' british government. i don't need any incentive/bribe/financial gain. Already donated 2x3 figure sums.

This isn’t about you. I’m glad to hear that your so well off. Some people aren’t.

Moulin Yarns
13-03-2022, 04:43 PM
Not everyone has that capability, and this payment will help people to be able to help out refugees.

there will be people who want to help but can’t afford to, can barely afford to feed and heat their families as it is. You think it’s bad the govt (much maligned for other reasons) are trying to support anyone who wants to give someone a roof, heating, shelter and safety?

There are thousands of people who can take refugees without any incentive from the government at Westminster.

The people who you are referring to, I'm sure, would rather do an altruistic action

stu in nottingham
13-03-2022, 04:44 PM
Not everyone has that capability, and this payment will help people to be able to help out refugees.

there will be people who want to help but can’t afford to, can barely afford to feed and heat their families as it is. You think it’s bad the govt (much maligned for other reasons) are trying to support anyone who wants to give someone a roof, heating, shelter and safety?

My thoughts too.

Many working people are on their arse financially and soon to become even worse off. I see nothing wrong with giving people some support in order to help refugees. It should also be said that many refugees will be in need of emotional support and that's not subject to a price tag.

These are difficult times for people to survive themselves, it doesn't mean that they don't want to willingly give some desperate people a helping hand though.They shouldn't be subject to cynicism just because they are unable to contribute in other ways.

Moulin Yarns
13-03-2022, 04:47 PM
This isn’t about you. I’m glad to hear that your so well off. Some people aren’t.

Yep, I'm comfortable financially, but I don't have any extra accommodation so I'm doing what I can.

As far as the bribe from the government goes I'm not comfortable.

Ozyhibby
13-03-2022, 04:50 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1503038464899624970?s=21

I can’t help but smile at this. I know I shouldn’t.


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Stairway 2 7
13-03-2022, 04:51 PM
Thousands of people would adopt kids for free, but they get financial aids to help anyway. It's a good thing the government is doing, the bad thing is the ridiculously slow speed they are doing everything and the poor numbers so far

Stairway 2 7
13-03-2022, 04:51 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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❗️At the #Chernobyl NPP resumed the supply of electricity

Energoatom noted that now the nuclear waste cooling systems are operating normally again

stu in nottingham
13-03-2022, 04:55 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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❗️At the #Chernobyl NPP resumed the supply of electricity

Energoatom noted that now the nuclear waste cooling systems are operating normally again

I think today has been the nearest we've had to a 'good news day' since the conflict began. Small mercies and a wish for a breakthrough for diplomacy.

Paul1642
13-03-2022, 05:25 PM
Yep, I'm comfortable financially, but I don't have any extra accommodation so I'm doing what I can.

As far as the bribe from the government goes I'm not comfortable.

That’s obvious. Why do I feel that if another party had proposed this idea you’d be all for it.

McD
13-03-2022, 05:54 PM
There are thousands of people who can take refugees without any incentive from the government at Westminster.

The people who you are referring to, I'm sure, would rather do an altruistic action


and for those people, this payment will help them do altruistic actions - by making it financially possible to have extra heating and electricity being used in their homes for people who have nothing

Great that you have the financial means to make donations, many won’t - it’s coming across that you’re sneering at people who don’t have the same ability to donate as you

WhileTheChief..
13-03-2022, 06:12 PM
Does anyone know of anyone taking someone into their home?

They will most likely look to move in with friends or families I’d have thought. Or with other Ukrainians or maybe Poles etc.

The money is a fantastic help, as are all the benefits being offered.

stu in nottingham
13-03-2022, 06:30 PM
Does anyone know of anyone taking someone into their home?

They will most likely look to move in with friends or families I’d have thought. Or with other Ukrainians or maybe Poles etc.

The money is a fantastic help, as are all the benefits being offered.

I think the scheme is going to be rolled out tomorrow in full and so we'll know much more about the criteria then. I read that individuals will be vetted and I'm sure that will mean DBS checks among other things. It seems that those kinds of considerations will be most relevant beyond just being known to or related someone. They're particularly important as there are expected to be a high percentage of women and children among the refugees. Believe there's an expectation also that a lot of use of hotels and other businesses will be involved as well as willing individuals and families.

I have been thinking about this all day since I heard about it and considering applying to this excellent scheme as I have two spare rooms. I'd considered the idea of bringing someone into my home in any case but am not exactly flush being a single income household I feel this scheme can really aid an opportunity to help out though.

Looking at the discussion here I'd humbly suggest that if it were really all about money then for those people - who I believe will be few - it would be a lot simpler matter to just get a lodger in. There will be some very broken people coming into people's homes and they will need love and caring. I would in all modesty enjoy using my own professional counselling experience to look after a couple of folk. It feels like a damned good, practical contribution to what has been an awful situation.

stoneyburn hibs
13-03-2022, 06:31 PM
Does anyone know of anyone taking someone into their home?

They will most likely look to move in with friends or families I’d have thought. Or with other Ukrainians or maybe Poles etc.

The money is a fantastic help, as are all the benefits being offered.

My wife and I have spoken about it at length over the weekend.
Our two boys have left the house so we have space and we're going to attempt to help.

StevieC
13-03-2022, 06:48 PM
Yesterday saw very few Russian advance. Interestingly, Russian forces seem to have focused on the Donbass, including with an attack against Mariupol, and a continued attempt to surround Severodonetsk

I doubt #Russia is dropping its more ambitious goal for now, but I would not rule out that it's now more seriously considering a more limited goal (Luhansk, Donetsk and Kherson Provinces) as a Plan B to call its "special military operation" (invasion) a success

I personally think, Plan A is still far more ambitious, and liable to prompt another escalation in violence, but Russia may have started considering more limited goals

I said before a rocket was fired that an intention was to secure a land bridge between Russia and Crimea. In 2014 they invaded and secured the Donbas, the West did nothing. In 2022 they invade and secure the land bridge to Crimea, the West do nothing, in 2025 they invade and secure a land link to Moldova/Transnistria, the West will do nothing.

stu in nottingham
13-03-2022, 07:04 PM
I said before a rocket was fired that an intention was to secure a land bridge between Russia and Crimea. In 2014 they invaded and secured the Donbas, the West did nothing. In 2022 they invade and secure the land bridge to Crimea, the West do nothing, in 2025 they invade and secure a land link to Moldova/Transnistria, the West will do nothing.


Remember that exact post and it made a lot sense strategically as to what might might likely happen.

Make sure and keep us informed about the kids and your colleagues if you’re able Stevie. Keep it going mate and thank you.

grunt
13-03-2022, 07:21 PM
https://twitter.com/Dimi/status/1503093727065264129?s=20&t=hfslenP33XAe0Kp2BVgJWQ


Russia has asked China for military equipment and other assistance to support its invasion of Ukraine.

Stairway 2 7
13-03-2022, 07:27 PM
I said before a rocket was fired that an intention was to secure a land bridge between Russia and Crimea. In 2014 they invaded and secured the Donbas, the West did nothing. In 2022 they invade and secure the land bridge to Crimea, the West do nothing, in 2025 they invade and secure a land link to Moldova/Transnistria, the West will do nothing.

Yep remember reading that and you talked of a town that would be attacked early and it ended up so. By the way keep doing us proud 👏

Stairway 2 7
13-03-2022, 07:28 PM
https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1502588098777079808

Interesting thread on the 40 mile convoy that's stuck and stopping the northern advance

Stairway 2 7
13-03-2022, 08:03 PM
Ben Judah
@b_judah
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Former Supreme Allied Commander at NATO..

stavridisj
@stavridisj

Unlikely Putin will resort to nukes -not out of scruples but because he thinks he can accomplish his mission using other weapons. He may consider using chemical weapons to terrorize the Ukrainian people. Their heart and spirit are the center of gravity and he wants to break them.

Ozyhibby
13-03-2022, 08:11 PM
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1503078150699290624?s=21

Sanctions at work.


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cabbageandribs1875
13-03-2022, 08:53 PM
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1503078150699290624?s=21

Sanctions at work.


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i'm surprised the knock-off kings of the world have not managed to copy something :greengrin


Igor Sushko on Twitter: "MEDICAL NEWS #3: Russia has tried importing these medical prosthetics from China, but they turned out to be very poor quality knockoffs of the European products and are unusable." / Twitter (https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1503081599126040578)

Ozyhibby
13-03-2022, 09:06 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1503113559621971968?s=21


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StevieC
13-03-2022, 09:37 PM
Remember that exact post and it made a lot sense strategically as to what might might likely happen.

Make sure and keep us informed about the kids and your colleagues if you’re able Stevie. Keep it going mate and thank you.

I’ve added updates on the “evacuation” thread on the main board.

Facebook is the place I’ve put most updates on

StevieC
13-03-2022, 09:41 PM
Yep remember reading that and you talked of a town that would be attacked early and it ended up so. By the way keep doing us proud 👏

Yes, Mariupol. And it’s currently surrounded and getting pummelled. It’s an important port, and if they take control (and create the land bridge to Crimea) they can effectively prevent any vessels from coming anywhere near the Kerch bridge.

I’ll keep trying my best

Callum_62
14-03-2022, 07:27 AM
https://twitter.com/nikorepi/status/1503096676575236098?t=1pEzoGiAMAolqUU-H0iASg&s=19

New fake news laws looks fair.

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Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 07:40 AM
https://twitter.com/nikorepi/status/1503096676575236098?t=1pEzoGiAMAolqUU-H0iASg&s=19

New fake news laws looks fair.

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Mental. Like this one I'm not sure if it's been put up, arrested for showing a blank piece of paper

https://twitter.com/benphillips76/status/1502729872065576965

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 07:54 AM
Germany Hungary and Austria apposed 2027 date as too soon, people thought the uk waiting until December to end was terrible too

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-agree-end-russia-energy-dependence-no-date/

EU leaders fail to set a date to end energy dependence on Russia
The Commission’s proposal for a 2027 cut-off date will be discussed in May

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 07:56 AM
Yes, Mariupol. And it’s currently surrounded and getting pummelled. It’s an important port, and if they take control (and create the land bridge to Crimea) they can effectively prevent any vessels from coming anywhere near the Kerch bridge.

I’ll keep trying my best
Just saw this heartbreaking

https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1502357027934416897
Dmytro Kuleba
@DmytroKuleba
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Besieged Mariupol is now the worst humanitarian catastrophe on the planet. 1582 dead civilians in 12 days, even buried in mass graves like this one. Unable to defeat the Ukrainian Army, Putin bombs the unarmed, blocks humanitarian aid. We need planes to stop Russian war crimes

lord bunberry
14-03-2022, 08:19 AM
Germany Hungary and Austria apposed 2027 date as too soon, people thought the uk waiting until December to end was terrible too

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-agree-end-russia-energy-dependence-no-date/

EU leaders fail to set a date to end energy dependence on Russia
The Commission’s proposal for a 2027 cut-off date will be discussed in May
I can understand why they can’t just stop using Russian gas and oil, it would bring their countries to their knees. I would hope they’d manage it before 2027 though, maybe they’re just saying that so that the Russians don’t turn the supply of now.

Scorrie
14-03-2022, 08:19 AM
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1503078150699290624?s=21

Sanctions at work.


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Sanctions are “biting”...or maybe not in this case

Onceinawhile
14-03-2022, 08:20 AM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1503113559621971968?s=21


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Apparently over three years old and nothing to do with the current war.

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 08:26 AM
I can understand why they can’t just stop using Russian gas and oil, it would bring their countries to their knees. I would hope they’d manage it before 2027 though, maybe they’re just saying that so that the Russians don’t turn the supply of now.

So can I but people were saying everyone should be like America, who incidentally have millions of barrels in reserve.

Will obviously take time but not agreeing to 2027 is ridiculous. Hopefully can get movement on Venezuela and Iran. Because giving Putin £1 billion a day in oil and gas is helping bomb civilians

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 08:27 AM
Charles McPhedran
@charliekreuz
Just driving with refugees from Mariupol. They are in such deep trauma they can barely speak

A friend, a Ukrainian soldier, blew himself up on bridge near Mykolaiv so that the way to Odessa remained closed to them. “He has three kids and a wife,” Katarina from Mariupol said to me with tears in her eyes. “Why is this happening to us?

Important to clarify that they were incredibly “lucky” to make it out alive—and still saw people killed in the street

Literally ran out of their houses as the carpet-bombing began. It‘s mistaken to say that they could evacuate

PeeJay
14-03-2022, 09:14 AM
Mental. Like this one I'm not sure if it's been put up, arrested for showing a blank piece of paper

https://twitter.com/benphillips76/status/1502729872065576965

You don't think the white flag (piece of paper) "peace, surrender" symbolism is obvious here? In the given context, this is not a blank piece of paper .... :confused:

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 09:23 AM
You don't think the white flag (piece of paper) "peace, surrender" symbolism is obvious here? In the given context, this is not a blank piece of paper .... :confused:

Think you're not getting the point. The fact that she will be jailed for showing her opposition to an evil war

greenginger
14-03-2022, 09:36 AM
So can I but people were saying everyone should be like America, who incidentally have millions of barrels in reserve.

Will obviously take time but not agreeing to 2027 is ridiculous. Hopefully can get movement on Venezuela and Iran. Because giving Putin £1 billion a day in oil and gas is helping bomb civilians

Instead of giving £ billions to the evil Russian state, you think we should give the £ billons to dictatorships like Venezuela and Iran ?

Should UK , US and Canada not be driving up their own oil production ?

Besides what oil the west does not buy from Russia they will sell to China , India , Pakistan and other states that see Ukraine as a local dispute.

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 09:44 AM
Instead of giving £ billions to the evil Russian state, you think we should give the £ billons to dictatorships like Venezuela and Iran ?

Should UK , US and Canada not be driving up their own oil production ?

Besides what oil the west does not buy from Russia they will sell to China , India , Pakistan and other states that see Ukraine as a local dispute.

They haven't got the capabilities to sell to the other nations right now. There will be a pipe to China in 10 years but if not competing against Europe it will be at china's low price.

Uk America ect will be increasing oil and renewables as they have said, blow to cop26 but needs must.

Bit unfair on Venezuela and Iran who have let in inspectors and and actively taking over a country, with their small military power won't be anytime either

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 09:48 AM
People worried about nuclear war from Russia. Ukrain is still shooting down cruise and iskander missles from the battered Kyiv with 1% of nato missle defenses. Nato unlike Ukraine has a full missle defense net over western Russia.

NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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The air defense system is working in #Kyiv. A #Russian missile was shot down

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 09:52 AM
The picture of the lady being stretched out the maternity ward has an unhappy ending. Mother and child died from their wounds. Reality of imperialism

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-health-europe-c0f2f859296f9f02be24fc9edfca1085

MARIUPOL, Ukraine (AP) — A pregnant woman and her baby have died after Russia bombed the maternity hospital where she was meant to give birth, The Associated Press has learned. Images of the woman being rushed to an ambulance on a stretcher had circled the world, epitomizing the horror of an attack on humanity’s most innocent.

In video and photos shot Wednesday by AP journalists after the attack on the hospital, the woman was seen stroking her bloodied lower abdomen as rescuers rushed her through the rubble in the besieged city of Mariupol, her blanched face mirroring her shock at what had just happened. It was among the most brutal moments so far in Russia’s now 19-day-old war on Ukraine.

The woman was rushed to another hospital, yet closer to the frontline, where doctors labored to keep her alive. Realizing she was losing her baby, medics said, she cried out to them, “Kill me now!

PeeJay
14-03-2022, 10:06 AM
Think you're not getting the point. The fact that she will be jailed for showing her opposition to an evil war

Oh no, I understood that - it was your "blank piece of paper" that I didn't understand: it's clearly not that!

Since90+2
14-03-2022, 10:07 AM
People worried about nuclear war from Russia. Ukrain is still shooting down cruise and iskander missles from the battered Kyiv with 1% of nato missle defenses. Nato unlike Ukraine has a full missle defense net over western Russia.

NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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The air defense system is working in #Kyiv. A #Russian missile was shot down

Wouldn't really like to put that to the test though.

Also, does anyone know what happens if a nuclear missile is shot down in the sky? Does it just explode in the air? In assuming there must be still be some kind of destruction.

Ozyhibby
14-03-2022, 10:13 AM
Wouldn't really like to put that to the test though.

Also, does anyone know what happens if a nuclear missile is shot down in the sky? Does it just explode in the air? In assuming there must be still be some kind of destruction.

Don’t think the warhead is armed until close to impact. Bit of an explosion and debris falling to the ground but nothing like if it hits, nuclear or not.


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Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 10:15 AM
Wouldn't really like to put that to the test though.

Also, does anyone know what happens if a nuclear missile is shot down in the sky? Does it just explode in the air? In assuming there must be still be some kind of destruction.

Yeah of course even 1 getting through would be unbelievable suffering. But scientists putting up scenarios of nuclear winters from 2000 going off is ridiculous. The take of sites would be the first places hit and most would be shot down.

If they are intercepted the bomb doesn't go off

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 10:15 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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#Azerbaijan is going to increase natural gas supplies to #Europe via #Turkey

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 10:20 AM
BREAKING: Fourth round of Ukraine-Russia conflict talks underway: Kyiv negotiator -
@AFP

Ozyhibby
14-03-2022, 10:33 AM
https://twitter.com/iaponomarenko/status/1503331460555677696?s=21

An intercepted missile falling to the ground.


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WhileTheChief..
14-03-2022, 10:55 AM
Wouldn't really like to put that to the test though.

Also, does anyone know what happens if a nuclear missile is shot down in the sky? Does it just explode in the air? In assuming there must be still be some kind of destruction.

I wonder if they even have any working nukes!

I doubt it. They're probably more risk to the immediate area they're based than any intended target.

They can't even maintain their trucks or tanks. Do we really think they're been spending the necessary money on their nukes? Not a chance, Just like everything else in the country it will have been left to rot. I know it's not something we want to put to the test but I'm not worried about them in the slightest.

WhileTheChief..
14-03-2022, 11:02 AM
The sanctions will really start to bite in the next few weeks.

A few simple things to consider.

Cars and trucks - Russia doesn't have its own industry and relies on 95% of motoring components being imported. The whole country will grind to a halt.

It has no electronics industry, meaning everything is bought from abroad. Just think about that for a second. Anything electrical that needs to be fixed and they won't have the spare parts to do it.

Even Gazprom etc, can't operate without the support and expertise of foreign companies.

The list of companies pulling out is tremendous. The effect that will have on ordinary people's lives will be huge.

They will literally be set back 30 years.

Within 3 to 6 weeks the country will be bankrupt.

WhileTheChief..
14-03-2022, 11:07 AM
Sanctions are “biting”...or maybe not in this case

This is the thing, the more you look into individual industries, the more you see the actual impact that sanctions have.

It's tremendous.

Since90+2
14-03-2022, 11:10 AM
I wonder if they even have any working nukes!

I doubt it. They're probably more risk to the immediate area they're based than any intended target.

They can't even maintain their trucks or tanks. Do we really think they're been spending the necessary money on their nukes? Not a chance, Just like everything else in the country it will have been left to rot. I know it's not something we want to put to the test but I'm not worried about them in the slightest.

They have 13 Nuclear weapon loaded submarines. I don't share your enthusiasm one bit unfortunately that they simply don't work.

American intelligence seems to suggest they believe North Korea do have the ability to deploy nuclear weapons. If they do you can be certain that the Russian will have working nukes.

Ozyhibby
14-03-2022, 11:16 AM
https://twitter.com/harrisonjones7/status/1503331368335462403?s=21
Activists take over Deripaska’s mansion in London. Same with Putin’s daughters place in France.


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Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 11:24 AM
Elon musk challenges Putin to a fight for Ukraine 🤔

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
I hereby challenge
Владимир Путин
to single combat

Stakes are Україна

Do you agree to this fight?
@KremlinRussia_E

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
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I am absolutely serious

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 11:28 AM
Javier Blas
@JavierBlas
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20m
We're seeing the **strongest** flows of Russian gas into the European Union since the invasion of Ukraine started, with Mallnow registering 3 consecutive days of non-stop flows, plus steady high inflows at Velke and NS1. At current prices, that's quite a bounty for the Kremlin

Renfrew_Hibby
14-03-2022, 11:55 AM
The sanctions will really start to bite in the next few weeks.

A few simple things to consider.

Cars and trucks - Russia doesn't have its own industry and relies on 95% of motoring components being imported. The whole country will grind to a halt.

It has no electronics industry, meaning everything is bought from abroad. Just think about that for a second. Anything electrical that needs to be fixed and they won't have the spare parts to do it.

Even Gazprom etc, can't operate without the support and expertise of foreign companies.

The list of companies pulling out is tremendous. The effect that will have on ordinary people's lives will be huge.

They will literally be set back 30 years.

Within 3 to 6 weeks the country will be bankrupt.

Sorry but Russia does have a car industry, quick Google search reveals various manufacturers and 600,000 employed in the industry. I know the Lada mark has made a big revival in recent times. Now how reliant the industry is on foreign suppliers and the like I don't know. But they do have a car/vehicle making industry.

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 12:04 PM
Sorry but Russia does have a car industry, quick Google search reveals various manufacturers and 600,000 employed in the industry. I know the Lada mark has made a big revival in recent times. Now how reliant the industry is on foreign suppliers and the like I don't know. But they do have a car/vehicle making industry.

But almost all of them work for foreign car makers that have stopped production. Lada has closed all of its plants due to lack of chips and other parts

Andy Bee
14-03-2022, 12:06 PM
Sorry but Russia does have a car industry, quick Google search reveals various manufacturers and 600,000 employed in the industry. I know the Lada mark has made a big revival in recent times. Now how reliant the industry is on foreign suppliers and the like I don't know. But they do have a car/vehicle making industry.


The two main car manufacturers, Lada and Dacia are both owned by Renault and I think now have amalgamated.

stu in nottingham
14-03-2022, 12:07 PM
Sometimes it takes for the children to show us the way.

I bei bambini d'Italia.

https://twitter.com/bakerstherald/status/1503336930179694598?t=xtv-GRkW10j3ra5VTP5eXA&s=19

Renfrew_Hibby
14-03-2022, 12:08 PM
The two main car manufacturers, Lada and Dacia are both owned by Renault and I think now have amalgamated.

Point taken.

WhileTheChief..
14-03-2022, 12:12 PM
Sorry but Russia does have a car industry, quick Google search reveals various manufacturers and 600,000 employed in the industry. I know the Lada mark has made a big revival in recent times. Now how reliant the industry is on foreign suppliers and the like I don't know. But they do have a car/vehicle making industry.


Just some stuff I picked up from various vids online.

They can't service a Toyota, BMW or Honda without spare parts - that's the point I'm getting at. They won't be producing any new Lada's anytime soon!

Same with washing machines, TVs, iPhones etc.

And more importantly, it will be the same for any military equipment.

Every little thing that we take for granted every day, will be different for them.

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 12:29 PM
Pfizer will still sell medicines to Russia but the profits will go to Ukraine

NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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Pfizer will donate all profits made in #Russia to directly support the people of #Ukraine, the company said in a statement on its website

WeeRussell
14-03-2022, 12:36 PM
Wouldn't really like to put that to the test though.

Also, does anyone know what happens if a nuclear missile is shot down in the sky? Does it just explode in the air? In assuming there must be still be some kind of destruction.

I was wondering that exact same thing today, and previously too.

Sir David Gray
14-03-2022, 12:44 PM
I was wondering that exact same thing today, and previously too.

This article might help.

https://www.scienceabc.com/eyeopeners/would-a-nuclear-missile-cause-a-nuclear-explosion-if-its-shot-in-mid-air.html

The Tubs
14-03-2022, 01:14 PM
Instead of giving £ billions to the evil Russian state, you think we should give the £ billons to dictatorships like Venezuela and Iran ?

Should UK , US and Canada not be driving up their own oil production ?

Besides what oil the west does not buy from Russia they will sell to China , India , Pakistan and other states that see Ukraine as a local dispute.

Saudi Arabia, anyone? Let's remove them from the market too.

grunt
14-03-2022, 01:24 PM
Should UK , US and Canada not be driving up their own oil production ?

No, they should be increasing investment in technologies that don't cause the end of the world.

Aldo
14-03-2022, 01:24 PM
They have 13 Nuclear weapon loaded submarines. I don't share your enthusiasm one bit unfortunately that they simply don't work.

American intelligence seems to suggest they believe North Korea do have the ability to deploy nuclear weapons. If they do you can be certain that the Russian will have working nukes.

Since the end of the Cold War, the number of ‘working’ Submarines they have has diminished! They will definitely have Submarines with Nuclear Capability however I’m not sure what state they are in!

Tbh they could launch an ICBM from port and it’ll travel 5000k plus miles! They don’t however do this as it gives their supposed location away!

Any country that can launch a rocket or the likes could potentially launch a Nuclear Weapon!


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Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 01:38 PM
No, they should be increasing investment in technologies that don't cause the end of the world.

That doesn't stop us paying money to despots today. Scotland has one of the best renewable sectors in Europe, but still 44% of the energy we use comes from non renewable energy

https://fullfact.org/environment/scotland-renewable-energy/

In fact, the Scottish Government estimates that, in 2020, 56% of the electricity consumed in Scotland came from renewable sources, 30% from nuclear and 13% from fossil fuels

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 01:42 PM
Михайло Подоляк
@Podolyak_M
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A technical pause has been taken in the negotiations until tomorrow. For additional work in the working subgroups and clarification of individual definitions. Negotiations continue

Oscar T Grouch
14-03-2022, 01:42 PM
Instead of giving £ billions to the evil Russian state, you think we should give the £ billons to dictatorships like Venezuela and Iran ?

Should UK , US and Canada not be driving up their own oil production ?

Besides what oil the west does not buy from Russia they will sell to China , India , Pakistan and other states that see Ukraine as a local dispute.

Iran is not a dictatorship, it is a theocracy and the people vote for both politicians and Imams that control the governance of the country. The people vote for members of parliament, the president and an assemble of experts, who in turn appoint the Guardian Council, the cabinet and the Supreme leader. The head of judiciary, the armed forces and the expediency council are unelected but are picked and vetted by the guardian council, the cabinet and the supreme leader. Iran is many things, it is not a dictatorship, it wasn't at the time of the revolution and it isn't now. It is however a vastly complicated system of governance and under Islamic law, more socialist that most western governments, there are real protections for employees. I used to have all sorts of wrong perceptions of Iran and it's history, most of it fed by US propaganda, most of which is wrong are skewed. Most Iranian's I know think they have too many elections rather than being a dictatorship. It is also a very corrupt country, but as we are seeing from our own government and world affairs, corruption and power seem to go hand in hand.

WhileTheChief..
14-03-2022, 01:58 PM
No, they should be increasing investment in technologies that don't cause the end of the world.

They are.

The UK is probably doing more about green energy than practically every other country in the world.

It takes time though.

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 02:03 PM
Was under 40 2 months ago. Vladimir has been impressive in uniting the west
NEXTA
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⚡️More than 60 percent of #Finland's residents are in favor of joining #NATO

Ozyhibby
14-03-2022, 02:10 PM
https://twitter.com/g_gosden/status/1503362929428766720?s=21

Impressive police response to a house break in? Wonder if I would get that if my house got broke into? These oligarchs get their money worth out the Tories.


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Bostonhibby
14-03-2022, 02:28 PM
https://twitter.com/g_gosden/status/1503362929428766720?s=21

Impressive police response to a house break in? Wonder if I would get that if my house got broke into? These oligarchs get their money worth out the Tories.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIf only we'd pushed seizing their assets as aggressively as defending/recovering them for them.

Looks like the Met have actually managed to successfully deliver on something, even if it did take a sledgehammer to crack a walnut. Their partygate investigations will surely be as quick and decisive.

Met Police - safeguarding our resident oligarchs. Not a great look.

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stu in nottingham
14-03-2022, 02:44 PM
Was under 40 2 months ago. Vladimir has been impressive in uniting the west
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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⚡️More than 60 percent of #Finland's residents are in favor of joining #NATO

An increase might be expected given Russia's recent actions. Considering current circumstances and Finland's own history with Russia I still don't find that figure particularly impressive, or indeed emphatic.

Jack
14-03-2022, 02:52 PM
https://twitter.com/g_gosden/status/1503362929428766720?s=21

Impressive police response to a house break in? Wonder if I would get that if my house got broke into? These oligarchs get their money worth out the Tories.


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That can't possibly be real.

I've watched The Sheriffs Are Coming and it takes months, sometimes years, going through the courts to get someone evicted and even then its the job of the Sheriff as the police stand by doing very little!

Ozyhibby
14-03-2022, 03:00 PM
That can't possibly be real.

I've watched The Sheriffs Are Coming and it takes months, sometimes years, going through the courts to get someone evicted and even then its the job of the Sheriff as the police stand by doing very little!

Not if you’ve got Johnson on speed dial.


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grunt
14-03-2022, 03:04 PM
Considering current circumstances and Finland's own history with Russia I still don't find that figure [60%] particularly impressive, or indeed emphatic.I don't understand. 52% is enough to determine the will of the people, so surely 60% is emphatic?

JeMeSouviens
14-03-2022, 03:08 PM
An increase might be expected given Russia's recent actions. Considering current circumstances and Finland's own history with Russia I still don't find that figure particularly impressive, or indeed emphatic.

I think it's actually 65%, ex-don't knows:

53% in favour
28% against
19% don't know

LunasBoots
14-03-2022, 03:11 PM
That can't possibly be real.

I've watched The Sheriffs Are Coming and it takes months, sometimes years, going through the courts to get someone evicted and even then its the job of the Sheriff as the police stand by doing very little!

One rule for the normal person another for the elites.

Bostonhibby
14-03-2022, 03:16 PM
One rule for the normal person another for the elites.As the law applies in England, I think,and in Londongrad.

If you leave your house empty and squatters break in its a civil matter. Takes weeks or months and you pay for it. Of course that's if you are a law abiding British taxpayer. If you are a favoured connected Russian the riot squad repossess it for you immediately.

Tax payers in London must be delighted at this use of their resources.

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stu in nottingham
14-03-2022, 03:20 PM
I don't understand. 52% is enough to determine the will of the people, so surely 60% is emphatic?

I don't see that number as being emphatic in the will of the people. That's a large chunk of the population who in spite of everything still don't want to be part of NATO.

Hibrandenburg
14-03-2022, 03:26 PM
I can understand why they can’t just stop using Russian gas and oil, it would bring their countries to their knees. I would hope they’d manage it before 2027 though, maybe they’re just saying that so that the Russians don’t turn the supply of now.Indeed, I've said it before and I'll say it again, sanctions that hurt you more than they hurt those being sanctioned are stupid and counterproductive.

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Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 03:31 PM
I don't see that number as being emphatic in the will of the people. That's a large chunk of the population who in spite of everything still don't want to be part of NATO.

They like sweeden traditionally don't want nato as see it as an escalation. It's always been bellow 30% for and was 6 months ago. It's now 62% for 16% against and 21% undecided, pretty emphatic poll

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 03:33 PM
I think it's actually 65%, ex-don't knows:

53% in favour
28% against
19% don't know

62% f 16% again 21% do

Swinging Pro nato by the week

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 03:45 PM
Russian forces do not have enough men and equipment to encircle Kyiv, let alone take it, says a Pentagon official — Sky News

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 03:45 PM
The Kyiv Independent
@KyivIndependent
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⚡️Mykolaiv zoo asks public to buy tickets to save animals from starvation.

The southern city has been under attack for days.

The struggling zoo, which has been shut down, is asking the public to donate by buying tickets online: https://bit.ly/3t7im77

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 03:54 PM
The Kyiv Independent
@KyivIndependent
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⚡️Mykolaiv zoo asks public to buy tickets to save animals from starvation.

The southern city has been under attack for days.

The struggling zoo, which has been shut down, is asking the public to donate by buying tickets online: https://bit.ly/3t7im77

Just bought some only a couple of quid each and can use Google pay apple pay ect. Apparently been inundated so money will go to zoos around Ukraine also

grunt
14-03-2022, 03:58 PM
I don't see that number as being emphatic in the will of the people. That's a large chunk of the population who in spite of everything still don't want to be part of NATO.
#BrexitJoke #FellFlat

stu in nottingham
14-03-2022, 04:02 PM
#BrexitJoke #FellFlat

Sorry! :greengrin

degenerated
14-03-2022, 04:19 PM
The Kyiv Independent
@KyivIndependent
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[emoji298]️Mykolaiv zoo asks public to buy tickets to save animals from starvation.

The southern city has been under attack for days.

The struggling zoo, which has been shut down, is asking the public to donate by buying tickets online: https://bit.ly/3t7im77I bought 6 tickets yesterday.

If anyone is doing it leave the mobile number bit blank as it doesn't seem to work if you fill that bit in.

greenginger
14-03-2022, 04:43 PM
As the law applies in England, I think,and in Londongrad.

If you leave your house empty and squatters break in its a civil matter. Takes weeks or months and you pay for it. Of course that's if you are a law abiding British taxpayer. If you are a favoured connected Russian the riot squad repossess it for you immediately.

Tax payers in London must be delighted at this use of their resources.

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Difference is the property has been sanctioned by the state. If, in time it is returned to the owner, and has been recked , I think us tax payers would have to pony up.

majorhibs
14-03-2022, 04:43 PM
Instead of giving £ billions to the evil Russian state, you think we should give the £ billons to dictatorships like Venezuela and Iran ?

Should UK , US and Canada not be driving up their own oil production ?

Besides what oil the west does not buy from Russia they will sell to China , India , Pakistan and other states that see Ukraine as a local dispute.

Just check out how flat out busy US is, how many units operating offshore US Gulf of Mexico, think they’re land ops mega & Canada well busy too! The US has for last good few years totally ramped up making most of rest of world unprofitable givin em huge part of the market & others just backing off.

Bostonhibby
14-03-2022, 05:03 PM
Difference is the property has been sanctioned by the state. If, in time it is returned to the owner, and has been recked , I think us tax payers would have to pony up.Ah, my decades in the litigation "industry" have been in the wrong area.

Looking forward to the speedy disposal of this seized asset by our government now its5safely back in their hands.

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CropleyWasGod
14-03-2022, 05:19 PM
Ah, my decades in the litigation "industry" have been in the wrong area.

Looking forward to the speedy disposal of this seized asset by our government now its5safely back in their hands.

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Has it been seized? I thought all sanctioned assets were "only" frozen. There was a post earlier that suggested UK law didn't permit seizing.

greenginger
14-03-2022, 05:31 PM
Just check out how flat out busy US is, how many units operating offshore US Gulf of Mexico, think they’re land ops mega & Canada well busy too! The US has for last good few years totally ramped up making most of rest of world unprofitable givin em huge part of the market & others just backing off.

Biden’s first order when he took office in 2021 was to cancel The part constructed Keystone XL pipeline which was due to transport 830,000 barrels a day from the Canadian oil sands to US refineries.
He also stopped any new fracking on government land.

US is now an oil importer rather than an exporter.

stu in nottingham
14-03-2022, 05:32 PM
Details for those interested in sponsoring Ukrainian refugees:

Homes for Ukraine
https://homesforukraine.campaign.gov.uk/

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 05:34 PM
Has it been seized? I thought all sanctioned assets were "only" frozen. There was a post earlier that suggested UK law didn't permit seizing.

Your right frozen, there was talk today of changing it so they have the ability to seize sanctioned assets

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 05:40 PM
Details for those interested in sponsoring Ukrainian refugees:

Homes for Ukraine
https://homesforukraine.campaign.gov.uk/

Arj Singh
@singharj
·

NEW 20,000 people in the UK registered their interest in sponsoring Ukrainian refugees to come here in the first two-and-a-half hours of the scheme going live,
@luhc
spokesman tells me

👏 different class

Bostonhibby
14-03-2022, 06:36 PM
Has it been seized? I thought all sanctioned assets were "only" frozen. There was a post earlier that suggested UK law didn't permit seizing.You're right, I think frozen, it's the magic word that implies firm action on our government's part whilst simultaneously allowing unfreezing at some future date that let's said oligarch get back to where he used to be in London before this terrible mess happened.

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Off the bar
14-03-2022, 07:07 PM
https://twitter.com/maryilyushina/status/1503448561983397891?s=20&t=HuerdkQ1VBDjc0pVl2mK_Q

Very brave woman runs behind news reader on Russian news to protest the war. Presumably on a one way ticket to Siberia as I type.

Kato
14-03-2022, 07:50 PM
Language


https://twitter.com/JessicaFKeyes/status/1503346888715771904?t=O6Fh2ODigKqcIwmfoc2-7Q&s=19

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Callum_62
14-03-2022, 08:18 PM
Language


https://twitter.com/JessicaFKeyes/status/1503346888715771904?t=O6Fh2ODigKqcIwmfoc2-7Q&s=19

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkSo has Bob the builder by the looks

https://twitter.com/JessicaFKeyes/status/1503350394025611271?t=ESaW7ofIMVrlk9_pVMnxGw&s=19

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Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 08:26 PM
Dan Lamothe
@DanLamothe
·
Russia now has 100 percent of the forces it assembled prior to invading committed to the fight. It has under 90 percent of those forces available to them, after taking losses, senior U.S. defense official says

Phillips P. OBrien
@PhillipsPOBrien
The basic mathematics of Russia’s strategic dilemma. 100 %committed , Already below 90% of force left, once they get below 75% their overall effectiveness should plummet. Unless a new army appears

Stairway 2 7
14-03-2022, 08:42 PM
If this is close its about a third of the Russian vehicles gone. A tenth of all Russian soldiers, the US says estimate 18,000 killed or injured

Russian losses according to Ukraine

Personnel - more 12 000,

Tanks ‒ 389 units,

APV ‒ 1249 units,

Artillery systems – 150 units,

MLRS – 64 units,

Anti-aircraft warfare systems - 34 units,

Aircraft – 77 units,

Helicopters – 90 units,

Vehicles - 617 units,

Boats / cutters - 3 units,

Fuel tanks - 60,

UAV operational-tactical level - 8

Jack
14-03-2022, 08:46 PM
Language


https://twitter.com/JessicaFKeyes/status/1503346888715771904?t=O6Fh2ODigKqcIwmfoc2-7Q&s=19

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-60736583

Boooooo!

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 07:41 AM
Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
·

🚩Today, the Prime Ministers of Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovenia are going to Kyiv to meet with President Zelensky and PM Shmyhal, as representatives of the European Council.

I am not discounting that the attacks this morning in Kyiv are tied to this visit

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

“The train taking Poland’s PM Mateusz Morawiecki and the head of the ruling party Jarosław Kaczyński to Kyiv, crossed the Polish-Ukrainian border an hour ago” - Spokesman of the Polish government Piotr Mueller

Jones28
15-03-2022, 07:53 AM
Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
·

🚩Today, the Prime Ministers of Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovenia are going to Kyiv to meet with President Zelensky and PM Shmyhal, as representatives of the European Council.

I am not discounting that the attacks this morning in Kyiv are tied to this visit

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

“The train taking Poland’s PM Mateusz Morawiecki and the head of the ruling party Jarosław Kaczyński to Kyiv, crossed the Polish-Ukrainian border an hour ago” - Spokesman of the Polish government Piotr Mueller

Is this not the kind of thing that should be happening secretly and not being blasted all over twitter?

Hibernian Verse
15-03-2022, 08:01 AM
Is this not the kind of thing that should be happening secretly and not being blasted all over twitter?

Alternatively, they may have released the information to show just how easily they can still get to Kyiv and show solidarity with Zelenskyy.

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 08:21 AM
Alternatively, they may have released the information to show just how easily they can still get to Kyiv and show solidarity with Zelenskyy.

Yep it's deliberately public and getting live tweeted by all the prime ministers. It shows Russia has no control over western Ukraine and the south of Kyiv, you can still get trains from Kyiv to Poland. Apparently they now have food and weapons down in the subway for 3 months if blocked in, this due to Russia not managing to encircle Kyiv

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 08:21 AM
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/20000-home-ukrainian-refugees-uk-sponsorship-scheme-1516780

44,000 people sign up to house Ukrainian refugees as UK sponsorship scheme opens

Tens of thousands of people in the UK signed up to offer rooms for Ukrainian refugees fleeing war with Russia within hours of the Government’s scheme going live.

43,800 registered their interest in the Homes for Ukraine sponsorship scheme via homesforukraine.campaign.gov.uk within the first few hours of it going live

Keith_M
15-03-2022, 08:36 AM
Russia takes revenge on Boris with Peppa Pig 'sanctions'


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/putin-sanctions-peppa-pig-revenge-26452444

Ozyhibby
15-03-2022, 08:49 AM
Yep it's deliberately public and getting live tweeted by all the prime ministers. It shows Russia has no control over western Ukraine and the south of Kyiv, you can still get trains from Kyiv to Poland. Apparently they now have food and weapons down in the subway for 3 months if blocked in, this due to Russia not managing to encircle Kyiv

From stuff I was reading last night I don’t think the Russian are going to be able to encircle Kyiv now. It doesn’t sound like the have enough men or the capability.


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Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 09:08 AM
From stuff I was reading last night I don’t think the Russian are going to be able to encircle Kyiv now. It doesn’t sound like the have enough men or the capability.


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https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1503348111116324868

Good thread here saying similar. I think that's why they're emphasising military operation and not war. They aren't fully taking Ukraine now, but will say it was an operation for Donbass and to demilitarise more of Ukraine.

Lots of talk of him destroying what they can't have, lots of factories unrelated to war being destroyed and civilian areas too obviously

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 09:21 AM
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/20000-home-ukrainian-refugees-uk-sponsorship-scheme-1516780

44,000 people sign up to house Ukrainian refugees as UK sponsorship scheme opens

Tens of thousands of people in the UK signed up to offer rooms for Ukrainian refugees fleeing war with Russia within hours of the Government’s scheme going live.

43,800 registered their interest in the Homes for Ukraine sponsorship scheme via homesforukraine.campaign.gov.uk within the first few hours of it going live
👏

Paul Brand
@PaulBrandITV
UPDATE: Now at almost 90,000 and counting… it’s doubled overnight. Astonishing

Sir David Gray
15-03-2022, 10:36 AM
A curfew is to be imposed on the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, from 20:00 (18:00 GMT) on Tuesday until 07:00 (05:00 GMT) on Thursday after recent bombardments on the city.

"It is prohibited to move around the city without special permission, except to go to bomb shelters," Mayor Vitali Klitschko said.

"The capital is the heart of Ukraine, and it will be defended. Kyiv, which is currently the symbol and forward operating base of Europe’s freedom and security, will not be given up by us."

"Today is a difficult and dangerous moment. This is why I ask all Kyivites to get prepared to stay at home for two days, or if the sirens go off, in the shelters."

Vitali Klitschko
Kyiv mayor

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60746557?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=62306829ec502b53cd4823a4%26We%27re%20a t%20dangerous%20moment%2C%20says%20Kyiv%20mayor%20 ahead%20of%2035-hour%20curfew%262022-03-15T10%3A37%3A25.506Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:e5244390-d902-4fd7-bd6a-b3901a79be3e&pinned_post_asset_id=62306829ec502b53cd4823a4&pinned_post_type=share

Sir David Gray
15-03-2022, 10:39 AM
This is one of the residential buildings hit by strikes overnight in Kyiv.

There are a number of fire trucks, but it will take time to put out the fires because almost every single flat was damaged.

It's quite close to the area where the fighting is going on. There are reports that Russian forces are about 10 to 15km away.

There has been a lot of speculation about whether the Russian troops would be willing to bomb Kyiv. This place, the capital of Ukraine, has symbolic value for them, as well, with all those orthodox churches and historical sites.

However, sights like this suggest that Russian troops are ready to use brutal force in order to take Kyiv.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60746557?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=62306f420ce87e491a0efa24%26How%20far%2 0would%20Russia%20go%20to%20destroy%20Kyiv%3F%2620 22-03-15T11%3A34%3A16.125Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:22cfcb0b-7549-443e-9a44-d5531375906a&pinned_post_asset_id=62306f420ce87e491a0efa24&pinned_post_type=share

Sir David Gray
15-03-2022, 10:40 AM
A news presenter from one of Russia's most important TV channels has resigned and left the country, according to reports.

"I left [Russia] first because I was afraid they would not let me go just like that, then I submitted my resignation," Lilia Gildeyeva from NTV told prominent blogger Ilya Varlamov.

Gildeyeva was an anchor on Segodnya (Today), the flagship evening news programme on NTV – Russia's third most popular TV station, which is owned by gas giant Gazprom and is firmly pro-Kremlin.

In 2021, Gildeyeva was included in President Putin's official list of journalists who received thanks for "achievements in developing mass media". And in 2008, she was thanked by Putin for "information provision and active social activity to develop civil society in the Russian Federation".

Gildeyeva's reported departure follows the anti-war protest by a news editor on state-controlled Channel 1 last night that we have been telling you about.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60746557?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=623057a0980bea49f4b7c9d2%26Russian%20T V%20presenter%20%27quits%20and%20leaves%20country% 27%262022-03-15T11%3A05%3A04.456Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:4b5c094d-92d0-42b2-9952-43fb0acb4114&pinned_post_asset_id=623057a0980bea49f4b7c9d2&pinned_post_type=share

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 10:52 AM
https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1503687703505690631

Hibernian Football Club
@HibernianFC
Hibs goalkeeper Kevin Dąbrowski spent time yesterday helping volunteers in Edinburgh sort donations that are to be sent to Poland to help Ukrainian refugees 🇵🇱🇺🇦

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 11:58 AM
https://careers.vodafone.com/support-ukraine/

Vodafone are fast tracking Ukrainians for jobs in whatever country they settle

stu in nottingham
15-03-2022, 12:11 PM
Look to be a growing number of employers who will be offering jobs to refugees, including Tesco, Morrisons, M&S and Lush.

https://www.standard.co.uk/business/uk-ukrainian-refugees-jobs-vodafone-marks-spencer-tesco-morrisons-b988006.html

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 02:07 PM
Conflict News
@Conflicts
·

BREAKING: Ukrainian President Zelenskyy says that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO. Instead he calls for new formats of interaction with the West and security guarantees

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 02:11 PM
Brian Stelter
@brianstelter
·
Breaking: Fox News confirms that veteran cameraman Pierre Zakrzewski, who was with injured correspondent Benjamin Hall, was killed in yesterday's incident

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 02:23 PM
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/short_news/france-continued-to-deliver-russia-weapons-after-2014-embargo/

France continued to issue arms export licences to Russia after the 2014 embargo, investigative website Disclose has revealed.

According to leaked documents, French companies delivered arms to Russia after the EU imposed sanctions, including an arms embargo, against Russia in 2014. France has since issued more than 70 licences to export military equipment to companies worth €152 million

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 04:09 PM
25677

Jack
15-03-2022, 04:21 PM
Russia takes revenge on Boris with Peppa Pig 'sanctions'


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/putin-sanctions-peppa-pig-revenge-26452444

The torys have always had an awkward relationship with pigs.

Mr Grieves
15-03-2022, 04:29 PM
25677

The context of that being there are more Russian entities involved with the UK than elsewhere

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 04:35 PM
100,000 applications 24 hours 👏

Boris Johnson
@BorisJohnson

United Kingdom government official
·
It’s fantastic that over 100,000 people and organisations have recorded their interest in supporting Ukrainians fleeing the war through the Homes for Ukraine scheme.

Thank you to everyone across the country who has stepped up to offer their help so far.

#StandWithUkraine twitter.com/luhc/status/15…

CropleyWasGod
15-03-2022, 04:44 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60755328

Better news :agree:

grunt
15-03-2022, 04:47 PM
Bryant suggesting that Aaron Banks and Farage should be sanctioned ...

https://twitter.com/AdamJSchwarz/status/1503777104055484427?s=20&t=j2m-iGUQCi-pX2b4_MWePw

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 04:52 PM
Bryant suggesting that Aaron Banks and Farage should be sanctioned ...

https://twitter.com/AdamJSchwarz/status/1503777104055484427?s=20&t=j2m-iGUQCi-pX2b4_MWePw

Agree with him, although he should also be jailed for his robbing the tax payer during the expenses scandal

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 05:18 PM
OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical
·

Polish PM Morawiecki is in Kyiv Also in attendance, Petr Fiala,
Prime Minister of the Czech Republic and Janez Janša, Prime Minister of Slovenia

And Jarosław Kaczyński, Polish Vice PM

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 05:22 PM
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/deniil-medvedev-russia-world-numer-one-tennis-player-wimbledon-ban-ukraine-war-1517872

Daniil Medvedev: Russian world number one tennis star faces Wimbledon ban unless he denounces the Ukraine war

The Russian world number one tennis player Daniil Medvedev could be barred from playing in Wimbledon this year unless he gives “assurances” he does not support Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, ministers have suggested.

Sports minister Nigel Huddleston said the Government is in talks with the All-England Lawn Tennis Club (AELTC) to discuss the arrangements for individual tennis players taking part in the tournament.

Mr Huddleston told MPs that the issue of Russians who are not taking part in sporting events under the Russian banner, such as Wimbledon, was being looked at by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport

Since90+2
15-03-2022, 05:42 PM
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/deniil-medvedev-russia-world-numer-one-tennis-player-wimbledon-ban-ukraine-war-1517872

Daniil Medvedev: Russian world number one tennis star faces Wimbledon ban unless he denounces the Ukraine war

The Russian world number one tennis player Daniil Medvedev could be barred from playing in Wimbledon this year unless he gives “assurances” he does not support Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, ministers have suggested.

Sports minister Nigel Huddleston said the Government is in talks with the All-England Lawn Tennis Club (AELTC) to discuss the arrangements for individual tennis players taking part in the tournament.

Mr Huddleston told MPs that the issue of Russians who are not taking part in sporting events under the Russian banner, such as Wimbledon, was being looked at by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport

I'm not really sure how I feel about that tbh. It's one thing if he is openly supporting the war, but another thing entirely to make a sportsman comment on this type of event and if he doesn't he's banned. I'm not sure that's a road we want to go down.

Haymaker
15-03-2022, 05:48 PM
I'm not really sure how I feel about that tbh. It's one thing if he is openly supporting the war, but another thing entirely to make a sportsman comment on this type of event and if he doesn't he's banned. I'm not sure that's a road we want to go down.

Yeah, with you on that. He might have family etc still in Russia, by publicly denouncing the war he might put them in danger.

Sir David Gray
15-03-2022, 06:11 PM
I'm not really sure how I feel about that tbh. It's one thing if he is openly supporting the war, but another thing entirely to make a sportsman comment on this type of event and if he doesn't he's banned. I'm not sure that's a road we want to go down.

Agreed, they would be as well saying that all Russian players are banned from this year's tournament if that's the stance they're taking.

Who knows what consequences the family of the players who still live in Russia will face if their high profile relative is seen openly criticising Putin.

I don't think their participation should be dependent upon them saying that they don't support the war.

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 06:28 PM
President Biden
@POTUS

United States government official
·
I just signed the Bipartisan Government Funding Bill into law — keeping the government open and providing a historic $13.6 billion in funding to Ukraine

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 06:50 PM
Михайло Подоляк
@Podolyak_M
·

We'll continue tomorrow. A very difficult and viscous negotiation process. There are fundamental contradictions. But there is certainly room for compromise. During the break, work in subgroups will be continued

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 06:51 PM
Володимир Зеленський
@ZelenskyyUa

All trade with Russia must be stopped! So that it can't sponsor the killing of our children. Ukrainians all over the world! Contact politicians, talk to journalists, put pressure on business to leave the Russian market. So that their dollars & euros aren’t paid for our blood

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 07:00 PM
Eu add roman Abramovich to sanctions list although Portugal won't just now, as he was given Portuguese citizenship in April 21 after a quick 6 months process

Stairway 2 7
15-03-2022, 07:38 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1503831800510140425

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
In case you need a video to decide whether it is worth for your western government to continue sending NLAWs, Javelins and other anti-tank missile systems to Ukraine, take a look at what the Ukrainians did to this military convoy near Kharkiv

cabbageandribs1875
16-03-2022, 12:30 AM
Professor Tim Hayword who lectures at Edinburgh Uni


the times, April 2018 Apologists for Assad working in British universities | News | The Times (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/apologists-for-assad-working-in-british-universities-2f72hw29m)

Senior British academics are spreading pro-Assad disinformation and conspiracy theories promoted by Russia, The Times can reveal.They are founders of a self-styled Working Group on Syria, Propaganda and Media (SPM) and hold posts at universities including Edinburgh, Sheffield and Leicester.

and yesterday UK Government to quiz Edinburgh University over academic's 'pro-Putin' Tweets (yahoo.com) (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-government-quiz-edinburgh-university-113903125.html)

One of those accused of disseminating “pro-Putinist propaganda” is Prof Tim Hayward at the University of Edinburgh.

He retweeted a Russian representative to the United Nations describing the attack on Mariupol’s maternity hospital as “fake news” with the comment "As long as we’re still able to hear two sides of the story we should continue striving to do so".

awk fair enough, or maybe he's just looking after his employers donations/fees from Russians.

Jones28
16-03-2022, 05:16 AM
I'm not really sure how I feel about that tbh. It's one thing if he is openly supporting the war, but another thing entirely to make a sportsman comment on this type of event and if he doesn't he's banned. I'm not sure that's a road we want to go down.

Compelling speech is such a minefield. Can’t people be allowed to complete neutrally, without having to publicly denounce something to keep their Russian families safe?

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 08:15 AM
Conflict News
@Conflicts
·

BREAKING: Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov says talks with Ukraine "are tough", there is "hope for compromise" and some deals with Ukraine are close to done -
@DailySabah

NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

❗️#Russian Foreign Minister Sergey #Lavrov: There is "some hope" of reaching a compromise in the talks between #Russia and #Ukraine.

Keith_M
16-03-2022, 08:19 AM
I'm not really sure how I feel about that tbh. It's one thing if he is openly supporting the war, but another thing entirely to make a sportsman comment on this type of event and if he doesn't he's banned. I'm not sure that's a road we want to go down.


:agree:


We really don't want to go down the path of hating, or pressuring people based purely on their nationality.

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 08:40 AM
Thread on the impact of sanctions on Russia

https://twitter.com/IlyaMatveev_/status/1503789373069877248

The damage that is already done is extreme, but if the situation goes on for, say, a year, I predict 30% drop in GDP, 20-30% drop in employment and the elimination of at least half of the middle class.

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 08:45 AM
Dmitri Alperovitch
@DAlperovitch

Zelensky in tonight's message: 'Any war ends in an agreement. Meetings (with Russia) continue. As I am told, the positions in the negotiations sound more realistic. However, time is still needed for the decisions to be in Ukraine's interests

makaveli1875
16-03-2022, 08:47 AM
Ukraine claiming to have whacked another general plus 7 of Putin’s elite unit . Quite incredible if Russia have lost 4 generals in the 1st couple of weeks . Certainly doesnt tally up with Russia’s claim of only 500 troops killed

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 08:49 AM
OSINT UK
@jon96179496

Details remain blurry but reports suggest:

Ukraine launched its first major offensive of the war earlier in the day on all fronts (south, north, and east). Reports indicate that Russian forces have been pushed back, but we are waiting for more confirmation tomorrow.

reports of a Large Ukrainian Counteroffensive currently occurring Northwest of the Capital City of Kyiv, Heavy Fighting can be heard in cities of Irpin’, Hostomel, and Bucha involving Armor and Artillery, I expect there to be a Statement from the MOD in the morning.

This seems to be a Pattern that the Ukrainians continue to exploit Night Attacks due to Russian Forces either not having the Training or the Equipment to Operate Effectively at Night when the Ukrainians can

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 08:50 AM
OSINTdefender
@sentdefender

There are reports that U.S. Government has Approved a Large Transfer of the AeroVironment Switchblade 300 Tactical Missile System to the Ukrainian Military, the Switchblade is consider a "Kamikaze" Loitering Munitions Drone and can Travel over 4 Miles Miles to hit Russian Targets

Trent Telenko
@TrentTelenko
·

I cannot underline how really important this development is for Ukraine's war against Russian logistics

hibsbollah
16-03-2022, 08:55 AM
Professor Tim Hayword who lectures at Edinburgh Uni


the times, April 2018 Apologists for Assad working in British universities | News | The Times (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/apologists-for-assad-working-in-british-universities-2f72hw29m)

Senior British academics are spreading pro-Assad disinformation and conspiracy theories promoted by Russia, The Times can reveal.They are founders of a self-styled Working Group on Syria, Propaganda and Media (SPM) and hold posts at universities including Edinburgh, Sheffield and Leicester.

and yesterday UK Government to quiz Edinburgh University over academic's 'pro-Putin' Tweets (yahoo.com) (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-government-quiz-edinburgh-university-113903125.html)

One of those accused of disseminating “pro-Putinist propaganda” is Prof Tim Hayward at the University of Edinburgh.

He retweeted a Russian representative to the United Nations describing the attack on Mariupol’s maternity hospital as “fake news” with the comment "As long as we’re still able to hear two sides of the story we should continue striving to do so".

awk fair enough, or maybe he's just looking after his employers donations/fees from Russians.

I’m not sure how I feel about that. Is someone that studies the region academically for a living unable to disseminate Russian propaganda because it contradicts ours? How will you know it’s propaganda unless you are allowed to talk about it and discuss it? Are we going down the road of the Gerry Adams voiceover?

CropleyWasGod
16-03-2022, 09:00 AM
I’m not sure how I feel about that. Is someone that studies the region academically for a living unable to disseminate Russian propaganda because it contradicts ours? How will you know it’s propaganda unless you are allowed to talk about it and discuss it? Are we going down the road of the Gerry Adams voiceover?

Have to say I'm a bit conflicted by it as well.

The old cliche "the first casualty of war...etc" comes to mind. I know there are fact-checkers out there, who no doubt do their job, but to what extent can we trust them in times like this?

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 09:11 AM
Have to say I'm a bit conflicted by it as well.

The old cliche "the first casualty of war...etc" comes to mind. I know there are fact-checkers out there, who no doubt do their job, but to what extent can we trust them in times like this?

The osint fact check community is huge, worldwide and independent mostly in people's homes. They have been working for decades and done some amazing work in the Arab spring and Syria. The Internet has changed the game for them. Every exploded tank for example they check the time stamps of the video then geolocate on Google maps street view the exact location. After it's confirmed with 3 others at random they only then put it up online.

For the hospital bombing they shared satellite pics before and after, Public photos and looked at traffic going in and out on the days around. They also shared Instagram pics ect of the hospital asking for blankets in the days before.

They are amazing and scunnering Putin's lies

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 09:28 AM
The osint fact check community is huge, worldwide and independent mostly in people's homes. They have been working for decades and done some amazing work in the Arab spring and Syria. The Internet has changed the game for them. Every exploded tank for example they check the time stamps of the video then geolocate on Google maps street view the exact location. After it's confirmed with 3 others at random they only then put it up online.

For the hospital bombing they shared satellite pics before and after, Public photos and looked at traffic going in and out on the days around. They also shared Instagram pics ect of the hospital asking for blankets in the days before.

They are amazing and scunnering Putin's lies

https://time.com/6155869/bellingcat-eliot-higgins-ukraine-open-source-intelligence/

An article on bellingcat one of the biggest groups. It's went from bedrooms to recording war crimes for the Hague, it has many from Ukraine

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 09:37 AM
Anonymous steals 20TB data from Russian oil giant Rosneft


Cyber actors claiming to represent the Anonymous hacker collective say they have breached Rosneft Deutschland - the German subsidiary of Russian energy company Rosneft - and stolen 20 terabytes of data from its systems

Local newspaper Die Welt reported the hack on Sunday, citing Germany's Federal Office for Information Security (BSI).

The paper said the BSI had offered assistance in resolving the situation, which happened late Friday night or early Saturday morning.

Rosneft Deutschland took its systems offline and informed BSI after identifying the attack.

The firm's pipelines and refineries are still running as usual, and authorities have launched an inquiry into the incident.

Rosneft is the third-largest player in the German oil refining sector, with political links to the country's ruling class. Rosneft Deutschland claims to be responsible for around a quarter of all crude oil imports into Germany in recent years.

The former German chancellor Gerhard Schröder, who has come under fire for his close links to Russian firms since Russia's invasion of Ukraine, is the chairman of Rosneft's board.

Igor Sechin, Rosneft's CEO, is a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin and one of the Russian billionaires who has been sanctioned by Western governments in recent weeks. Officials in France seized a $120 million yacht belonging to Sechin on the 3rd March.

Anonymous Germany (via Anonleaks) says it attacked Rosneft because of the company's significant lobbying efforts against sanctions for Russia over the country's invasions of Ukraine

Oscar T Grouch
16-03-2022, 09:48 AM
https://time.com/6155869/bellingcat-eliot-higgins-ukraine-open-source-intelligence/

An article on bellingcat one of the biggest groups. It's went from bedrooms to recording war crimes for the Hague, it has many from Ukraine

Eliot Higgins is a modern day hero, his work and the foundation of Bellingcat really changed how we look at information put out by governments by simply looking at readily available evidence, open source documents and photos and tying to all together to give a clear picture of what has happened. I would recommend listening to the Full Disclosure with James O'Brien episode with Higgins just to see how an ordinary person sitting at a computer can make a difference in the world.

s.a.m
16-03-2022, 09:51 AM
I’m not sure how I feel about that. Is someone that studies the region academically for a living unable to disseminate Russian propaganda because it contradicts ours? How will you know it’s propaganda unless you are allowed to talk about it and discuss it? Are we going down the road of the Gerry Adams voiceover?

I agree, it's complicated.
However, I don't know how we are able to talk and discuss this, or other issues, honestly when there are parties in that process who are either bad actors or influenced by them. There are lots of examples, in recent years, of people acting in bad faith and managing to mobilise a ground swell of support for absolutely nonsensical positions that should be, on the face of it, beyond belief by reasonable people. I don't know how we deal with that.

Edit: I should say that I don't have an opinion on whether the guy in question has fallen under Russian govt influence or not. I'm talking about the problem in general.

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 09:56 AM
Eliot Higgins is a modern day hero, his work and the foundation of Bellingcat really changed how we look at information put out by governments by simply looking at readily available evidence, open source documents and photos and tying to all together to give a clear picture of what has happened. I would recommend listening to the Full Disclosure with James O'Brien episode with Higgins just to see how an ordinary person sitting at a computer can make a difference in the world.

Cheers will give that a listen tonight

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 10:02 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·
BREAKING:

The Kremlin has stated that an Austrian/Swedish neutrality model for Ukrainian, preserving their own Army but without foreign military bases, could be seen as a compromise - Interfax.

That must mean that Russia is fine with EU membership

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 10:04 AM
Patrick Reevell
@Reevellp
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Significant. Russia’s foreign minister Lavrov says that, at their ongoing peace negotiations Ukraine and Russia are now discussing “concrete formulations, that are close to agreement

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 10:10 AM
Ukrainian negotiator

Михайло Подоляк
@Podolyak_M
·
What's going on right now.
1. Counteroffensive of the AFU in several operational areas. This radically changes the parties’ dispositions.
2. Russian journalists start quitting TV channels.
3. RF leaders are trying to find allies whose soldiers will be ready to die in 🇺🇦 fields

Hibs Class
16-03-2022, 10:20 AM
Don't know if it's been posted already, but thought this was a decent article.

Ukraine: Putin will search for a way to save face - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60756993)

Ozyhibby
16-03-2022, 10:41 AM
Don't know if it's been posted already, but thought this was a decent article.

Ukraine: Putin will search for a way to save face - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60756993)

I’m not sure the Ukrainians will give up any territory at all now. I think a commitment not to join NATO (Ukraine doesn’t need it anymore as the Russians are unlikely to be back anytime soon) will be all that Putin can get from here. He’ll just have to dress that up as victory.


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JeMeSouviens
16-03-2022, 10:52 AM
I’m not sure the Ukrainians will give up any territory at all now. I think a commitment not to join NATO (Ukraine doesn’t need it anymore as the Russians are unlikely to be back anytime soon) will be all that Putin can get from here. He’ll just have to dress that up as victory.


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I think they might get recognition for Crimea as well? And while I think the Ukrainians will probably hold onto Donbas, the 2 Russian puppet governments might get some kind of autonomous-within-Ukraine status?

Ozyhibby
16-03-2022, 11:03 AM
I think they might get recognition for Crimea as well? And while I think the Ukrainians will probably hold onto Donbas, the 2 Russian puppet governments might get some kind of autonomous-within-Ukraine status?

I don’t think that the sanctions will now be lifted if any land taken by force is held onto by Russia. Putin is in a terrible negotiating position right now.
The sanctions are far bigger than he ever expected and the Ukrainians have fought him to a standstill. There have been no major gains for him in a week now. 1 in 3 Russians are about to be unemployed. That is going to cause sever internal strife. If he gets out now and declares Ukraine not joining NATO was his goal all along he can declare a victory. That might be enough to keep him in power. If the war carries on and their economy goes into full meltdown, the Russians will come for him.
I can’t see how Zelensky can just abandon parts of Ukraine. It would be seen as a betrayal by the people living and fighting there. And he is in a strong position fight now. The Ukrainian people want him to keep fighting. They are not desperate for him to surrender anything.


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WhileTheChief..
16-03-2022, 11:19 AM
I'd imagine Ukraine will demand Russian troops leave every square inch of what they consider to be their country, including Crimea.

Russia has shown itself to be weak and will soon be on the retreat.

Why would Ukraine back down now? If anything this will hopefully encourage other regions to break away from Russia.

Putin might want to save face but I doubt he'll be allowed to. He's failed big time and will be replaced.

ronaldo7
16-03-2022, 11:19 AM
Dnipro kids being mentioned in the UK Parliament by Ian Blackford, pleading the case for the 48 orphans to be let into the country.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19997163.pmqs-raab-accused-blocking-evacuation-dnipro-orphans-supported-hibs/

Northernhibee
16-03-2022, 11:25 AM
Dnipro kids being mentioned in the UK Parliament by Ian Blackford, pleading the case for the 48 orphans to be let into the country.

Well done Stevie - absolutely inspirational from you.

ronaldo7
16-03-2022, 11:28 AM
Well done Stevie - absolutely inspirational from you.

:agree: Stevie and the team are doing a fantastic job.

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 11:30 AM
Video of different Ukrainian refugee children getting gifts at the Polish border 😢

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1504059506426327048

B.H.F.C
16-03-2022, 11:35 AM
Video of different Ukrainian refugee children getting gifts at the Polish border 😢

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1504059506426327048

That’s absolutely brilliant. Incredibly sad that it needs to be happening, but brilliant.

hibsbollah
16-03-2022, 11:38 AM
Dnipro kids being mentioned in the UK Parliament by Ian Blackford, pleading the case for the 48 orphans to be let into the country.

Dominic Raabs response unbelievably flippant I thought.

ronaldo7
16-03-2022, 11:41 AM
Dominic Raabs response unbelievably flippant I thought.

Aye. Something about checking whether they have family ties still in Ukraine, and this had to be checked first before they'd go any further. Ian Blackford shouting back that it's already been checked.

Dragging their heels again. The plane is ready to go on Friday according to Ian Blackford, but needs the paperwork from the home office.

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 11:43 AM
AFP News Agency
@AFP
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#UPDATE Ukraine has rejected proposals pushed by Russia for it to adopt a neutral status comparable to Austria or Sweden, saying talks with Moscow to end fighting should focus on "security guarantees

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 11:44 AM
Jim Sciutto
@jimsciutto

New: US & NATO allies are sending several surface-to-air missiles systems to Ukraine. A senior US official tells me these systems include Soviet-era SA-8, SA-10, SA-12 and SA-14 mobile air defense systems, w/range higher than Stingers, giving capability to hit cruise missiles

Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
·

This would be quite significant I think, although the Russian air force isn't as present as one would think it is

makaveli1875
16-03-2022, 11:49 AM
Aye. Something about checking whether they have family ties still in Ukraine, and this had to be checked first before they'd go any further. Ian Blackford shouting back that it's already been checked.

Dragging their heels again. The plane is ready to go on Friday according to Ian Blackford, but needs the paperwork from the home office.

Just get them on the plane and sort the paperwork later .

Hibernian Verse
16-03-2022, 11:58 AM
Just get them on the plane and sort the paperwork later .

Exactly. Get all the major newspapers to the Airport and see if the kids get detained then.

Hibernian Verse
16-03-2022, 12:00 PM
Also, forgive my ignorance but is an orphan not a child without a stable family...?

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 12:04 PM
Conflict News
@Conflicts
·

BREAKING: The US embassy in Kyiv says Russian forces have shot and killed 10 people standing in line for bread in the Ukrainian city of Chernihiv, following the emergence of graphic footage of the aftermath earlier today

makaveli1875
16-03-2022, 12:07 PM
Also, forgive my ignorance but is an orphan not a child without a stable family...?

Even if they do have family in Ukraine is he suggesting they go back into the war zone to live with them . Mental

JeMeSouviens
16-03-2022, 12:14 PM
I'd imagine Ukraine will demand Russian troops leave every square inch of what they consider to be their country, including Crimea.

Russia has shown itself to be weak and will soon be on the retreat.

Why would Ukraine back down now? If anything this will hopefully encourage other regions to break away from Russia.

Putin might want to save face but I doubt he'll be allowed to. He's failed big time and will be replaced.

I'm going out on a limb here but maybe because a mad ******* is currently reducing their cities to rubble? Ukraine has put up heroic resistance but the Russians are still advancing, albeit at nothing like the speed they envisaged. There is not going to be a deal unless Putin can proclaim it a success.

WhileTheChief..
16-03-2022, 12:20 PM
I'm going out on a limb here but maybe because a mad ******* is currently reducing their cities to rubble? Ukraine has put up heroic resistance but the Russians are still advancing, albeit at nothing like the speed they envisaged. There is not going to be a deal unless Putin can proclaim it a success.

It’s not just down to him.

Ukraine have already knocked back some of his ridiculous proposals.

He’s a lot weaker now than he was when this started.

Ozyhibby
16-03-2022, 12:30 PM
I'm going out on a limb here but maybe because a mad ******* is currently reducing their cities to rubble? Ukraine has put up heroic resistance but the Russians are still advancing, albeit at nothing like the speed they envisaged. There is not going to be a deal unless Putin can proclaim it a success.

Putin def needs something that he can call a win but the clock is ticking for him. It needs to happen soon or events at home will finish him anyway. The hit the Russian economy is about to face is the biggest ever faced by any economy ever. Hard to see how he survives that.


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Bostonhibby
16-03-2022, 12:37 PM
Also, forgive my ignorance but is an orphan not a child without a stable family...?Its Raab and the Nasty party we are talking about here.

Their preferred definition of stable is probably a london based oligarch who has made the appropriate donations and has several thoroughbreds in his stable.

Shame on them

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Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 12:49 PM
Володимир Зеленський
@ZelenskyyUa
·

🇺🇦 has become a member of 🇪🇺 Energy Union. The unification of 🇺🇦 & 🇪🇺 energy systems has been completed. Now 🇺🇦 electricity flows in 🇪🇺 & vice versa. Grateful to 🇪🇺 members, personally to
@vonderleyen
,
@KadriSimson
& everyone, thanks to whom we now have a single energy system

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 12:49 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

The WTO reported that 14 members of the organization have been notified of their intention to deprive #Russia of the most favored nation treatment (this will allow them to raise duties on all Russian goods

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 02:24 PM
max seddon
@maxseddon
NEW: Details on the possible Russia-Ukraine deal

– Russia ceases fire and withdraws
– Ukrainian "neutrality" without Nato
– Kyiv keeps its army but can't host foreign bases
– Russian language gets legal status in Ukraine

This is definitely progress. But it's a very difficult process.

It's very hard to see how they could ever agree on Crimea and Donbas – Ukraine can't give up the territory.

And Kyiv worries Russia could just be playing for time to replenish its army and start a new offensive

Ozyhibby
16-03-2022, 02:29 PM
max seddon
@maxseddon
NEW: Details on the possible Russia-Ukraine deal

– Russia ceases fire and withdraws
– Ukrainian "neutrality" without Nato
– Kyiv keeps its army but can't host foreign bases
– Russian language gets legal status in Ukraine

This is definitely progress. But it's a very difficult process.

It's very hard to see how they could ever agree on Crimea and Donbas – Ukraine can't give up the territory.

And Kyiv worries Russia could just be playing for time to replenish its army and start a new offensive

I would imagine that isn’t far away from what happens. The no NATO give Putin his ‘win’ and Ukraine doesn’t really need it now. All the rest is easy for the Ukrainians to deliver.


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Lendo
16-03-2022, 02:38 PM
I would imagine that isn’t far away from what happens. The no NATO give Putin his ‘win’ and Ukraine doesn’t really need it now. All the rest is easy for the Ukrainians to deliver.


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Crimea will end up as part of Russia officially, most likely with a small landbridge. Not great for Ukraine but if it stops the bloodshed then it could be worth it

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 02:40 PM
Sierra Alpha 🇺🇦
@Sierra__Alpha
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Confirmation from the Secretary for Defence that British Starstreak Anti-Air Missiles are being donated to Ukraine

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 02:50 PM
Crimea will end up as part of Russia officially, most likely with a small landbridge. Not great for Ukraine but if it stops the bloodshed then it could be worth it

The locals wouldn't except it. All the Russian speaking cities have had huge pro Ukraine demonstrations. Russia thought they would be treated like brothers instead they got treated to molotovs.

Russia is getting decimated in battle and economically. They wanted a puppet leader in Ukraine but will say demilitarisation was the goal all along. Ukraine will have better defenses post war and Russia will be much weaker

LunasBoots
16-03-2022, 03:00 PM
Dnipro kids being mentioned in the UK Parliament by Ian Blackford, pleading the case for the 48 orphans to be let into the country.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19997163.pmqs-raab-accused-blocking-evacuation-dnipro-orphans-supported-hibs/

Aye sadly the Tories seem to not be to keen on it by the sounds of them.

Moulin Yarns
16-03-2022, 03:02 PM
Crimea will end up as part of Russia officially, most likely with a small landbridge. Not great for Ukraine but if it stops the bloodshed then it could be worth it

I doubt there could be a landbridge to Crimea as it would block access to ports such as Mariopol and Rostov on Don. There is a 4 lane dual carriageway bridge already, what more do they need?

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 03:55 PM
max seddon
@maxseddon
NEW: Details on the possible Russia-Ukraine deal

– Russia ceases fire and withdraws
– Ukrainian "neutrality" without Nato
– Kyiv keeps its army but can't host foreign bases
– Russian language gets legal status in Ukraine

This is definitely progress. But it's a very difficult process.

It's very hard to see how they could ever agree on Crimea and Donbas – Ukraine can't give up the territory.

And Kyiv worries Russia could just be playing for time to replenish its army and start a new offensive
Ukrainian negotiator says this is just the Russian demands


Михайло Подоляк
@Podolyak_M
·

Briefly. FT published a draft, which represents the requesting position of the Russian side. Nothing more. The 🇺🇦 side has its own positions. The only thing we confirm at this stage is a ceasefire, withdrawal of Russian troops and security guarantees from a number of countries

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 03:57 PM
As reported yesterday as UK were arming the Ukrainian, France was arming Russia

David Foxx 🇺🇦
@thatfoxxybloke
·

🇫🇷 Report shows that between 2015 and 2020, despite the military escalation with Ukraine, France discreetly equipped The Russian army with state-of-the-art military technologies. Equipment that is said to have helped modernise Russia's land and air forces

Renfrew_Hibby
16-03-2022, 03:58 PM
New law in Russia today (new laws every day now) It is now illegal to wear a face mask in public due to it concealing your identity.
If you really have to wear one then you need a note from the authorities allowing you to do so.

Ozyhibby
16-03-2022, 04:07 PM
https://twitter.com/bbcwillvernon/status/1504057954701561857?s=12

Russian car industry grinding to a halt.


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Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 04:09 PM
Nika Melkozerova
@NikaMelkozerova
·
9m
Ukraine rescued Melitopol Mayor Ivan Fedorov, kidnapped by Russian occupiers! It was a special operation, he is safe now, Deputy Head of the Presidential Office Kyrylo Tymoshenko said in a statement. "We don't leave our people in danger!" Tymoshenko said

Sir David Gray
16-03-2022, 04:14 PM
Serhiy Orlov, Mariupol's deputy mayor, tells the BBC that Russian bombing hit the city's drama theatre where civilians were being sheltered.

He estimates that between 1,000 and 1,200 people were there. The number of casualties is still unknown.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60746557

Hibrandenburg
16-03-2022, 04:14 PM
Its Raab and the Nasty party we are talking about here.

Their preferred definition of stable is probably a london based oligarch who has made the appropriate donations and has several thoroughbreds in his stable.

Shame on them

Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkIt's utterly despicable that they are trying to sell the willingness of the British people to house and care for Ukrainian refugees as government generosity, what use is the promise to care for refugees when they're not being let in?

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Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 04:15 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

President Biden announces that the U.S. will help Ukraine to acquire long-range anti-air defense systems.

These will most likely be the S-300 systems that some NATO allies possess

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 04:15 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

President Biden announces that the U.S. will send

• 800 anti-air defense systems,
• 9000 anti-tank missile systems,
• 20 million rounds of ammunition
• some of its most modern drones

Bostonhibby
16-03-2022, 04:21 PM
It's utterly despicable that they are trying to sell the willingness of the British people to house and care for Ukrainian refugees as government generosity, what use is the promise to care for refugees when they're not being let in?

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Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 04:34 PM
Osinttech1
15m
Uk has sent its Starstreak systems to Ukraine. This is a game changer. It travels at Mach 3, making it the fastest short-range surface-to-air missile. Almost impossible to bypass

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 04:37 PM
Some serious weaponry going to Ukraine from the US and UK today. S300s, Starstreak and switchblade drones the most advanced in the sky. Can see why Ukraine are dismissive about Russian offers

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 04:38 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-mounts-counteroffensive-to-drive-russians-back-from-kyiv-key-cities-11647428858

Ukraine Mounts Counteroffensive to Drive Russians Back From Kyiv, Key Cities
A strike on Moscow’s forces in Kherson destroyed helicopters as the Russian bombing continued and Zelensky asked Congress for more weapons

Stairway 2 7
16-03-2022, 04:54 PM
US list

The new $800 million assistance package includes:

800 Stinger anti-aircraft systems;
2,000 Javelin, 1,000 light anti-armor weapons, and 6,000 AT-4 anti-armor systems;
100 Tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems;
100 grenade launchers, 5,000 rifles, 1,000 pistols, 400 machine guns, and 400 shotguns;
Over 20 million rounds of small arms ammunition and grenade launcher and mortar rounds;
25,000 sets of body armor; and
25,000 helmets.
In addition to the weapons listed above, previous United States assistance committed to Ukraine includes:

Over 600 Stinger anti-aircraft systems;
Approximately 2,600 Javelin anti-armor systems;
Five Mi-17 helicopters;
Three patrol boats;
Four counter-artillery and counter-unmanned aerial system tracking radars;
Four counter-mortar radar systems;
200 grenade launchers and ammunition;
200 shotguns and 200 machine guns;
Nearly 40 million rounds of small arms ammunition and over 1 million grenade, mortar, and artillery rounds;
70 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs) and other vehicles;
Secure communications, electronic warfare detection systems, body armor, helmets, and other tactical gear;
Military medical equipment to support treatment and combat evacuation;
Explosive ordnance disposal and demining equipment; and
Satellite imagery and analysis capability.

WhileTheChief..
16-03-2022, 05:05 PM
https://twitter.com/bbcwillvernon/status/1504057954701561857?s=12

Russian car industry grinding to a halt.


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Mentioned this last week.

Russia won't be able to make or repair anything with electronics in them.

They buy something like 0.02% of the world's semi-conductors, which means they buy in ready made products, they don't make anything themselves.

With companies pulling out of Russia every day, and the effect of sanctions to follow, it will soon be pretty much every industry grinding to a halt.

Just Alf
16-03-2022, 05:11 PM
I doubt there could be a landbridge to Crimea as it would block access to ports such as Mariopol and Rostov on Don. There is a 4 lane dual carriageway bridge already, what more do they need?Always hoped that somehow the Ukrainians would find a way to sabotage that link by blowing up a few bridges.

Lendo
16-03-2022, 05:15 PM
https://twitter.com/bbcwillvernon/status/1504057954701561857?s=12

Russian car industry grinding to a halt.


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What a Lada nonsense

HUTCHYHIBBY
16-03-2022, 05:50 PM
Putin def needs something that he can call a win but the clock is ticking for him. It needs to happen soon or events at home will finish him anyway. The hit the Russian economy is about to face is the biggest ever faced by any economy ever. Hard to see how he survives that.


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My economy has been goosed for years! 😲

Kato
16-03-2022, 08:28 PM
https://twitter.com/just_whatever/status/1504144895501557762?t=dXGXc2gIZDjTxXIh8o-veg&s=09

This is from today, basically Putin railing against elites and the woke with a bit "we are the best country ever" in there. Boring *******s these right wing nutjobs.

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Sir David Gray
16-03-2022, 08:31 PM
A leading Bolshoi prima ballerina, who recently denounced Russia's invasion of Ukraine, is leaving the country to join Dutch National Ballet.

Olga Smirnova, 30, said last week she was "against this war with every fibre of my soul" and was supported by other Russian ballerinas.

The Dutch National Ballet confirmed to BBC News on Wednesday that Smirnova will start with them immediately.

Its director Ted Brandsen described her as an "exceptional dancer".

Smirnova has a Ukrainian grandfather and has described herself as "one-quarter Ukrainian".

Writing earlier this month, Smirnova said: "In a modern and enlightened world, I expect civilized societies to resolve political matters only through peaceful negotiations.

"I never thought I would be ashamed of Russia, I have always been proud of talented Russian people, of our cultural and athletic achievements.

"But now I feel that a line has been drawn that separates the before and the after. It hurts that people are dying, that people are losing the roofs over their heads or are forced to abandon their homes.

"And who would have thought a few weeks ago that all of this would happen? We may not be at the epicentre of the military conflict, but we cannot remain indifferent to this global catastrophe."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60767490

The Harp Awakes
17-03-2022, 12:30 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60767664

The 2nd paragraph of the above article states that the Russian General was killed by the Azov Battalion. They are a far right, neo Nazi group incorporated into the Ukranian National Guard some years ago, having been active fighting Russian backed separitists in the disputed Ukranian republics for over a decade.

A quick look at wiki suggests the Azov battalion are not a group Zelensky should be praising:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

Russia's actions in Ukraine are indefensible, but it seems their claims about Nazis operating for the Ukranian state may be legitimate.

Stairway 2 7
17-03-2022, 07:30 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60767664

The 2nd paragraph of the above article states that the Russian General was killed by the Azov Battalion. They are a far right, neo Nazi group incorporated into the Ukranian National Guard some years ago, having been active fighting Russian backed separitists in the disputed Ukranian republics for over a decade.

A quick look at wiki suggests the Azov battalion are not a group Zelensky should be praising:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

Russia's actions in Ukraine are indefensible, but it seems their claims about Nazis operating for the Ukranian state may be legitimate.

It's been done but.. its a Batallion of less than 900 in an army of 80,000. Ukraine had one of the lowest votes for far right groups in the last election than anywhere in Europe. The isreal Centre estimates 3% of Ukrainians are antisemitic compared to 10% in Russia. Ukrainian was the first country outside isreal to have a Jewish prime minister and president at the same time

Moulin Yarns
17-03-2022, 07:43 AM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=398715035591190&id=100063580898518


Aberfeldy and pitlochry doing it better than the UK government. Accommodation for 80 Ukraine refugees offers so far.

On BBC breakfast just now.