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Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 08:04 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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#Israel confirmed its readiness to host a possible meeting between #Putin and #Zelenskyy in #Jerusalem.

greenginger
20-04-2022, 08:16 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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51m
#Russian troops shelled the towns of #Novodruzhevsk and #Gorny, says the head of the #Luhansk regional military administration Sergiy Haidai.

After midnight, the military opened fire on residential houses as well as on the gas pipeline. Now there is no gas in the city

I don’t understand how those Russian artillery batteries can’t be taken out.

Most I’m sure are fixed position and their coordinates can be established by drones or satellite. Rockets, drones or the long range artillery the UK supplied could surely do sustained damage to a battery of field guns.

cabbageandribs1875
20-04-2022, 08:20 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportico.com/leagues/tennis/2022/wimbledon-ban-russian-tennis-1234673336/amp/

Russian tennis players will be barred from competing at Wimbledon in June, a decision that will prevent current world No. 2 Daniil Medvedev from playing in the season’s third Grand Slam

it's a shame russian sports men/women are affected, but after the stunt by that Russian Gymnast displaying a 'Z' on his top at a world cup event in Qatar in march, all sports bodies will want to avoid that happening again, especially when the tanker was standing next to a Ukranian on the podium

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 09:00 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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‼️#Russia warned #Finland and #Sweden about the consequences of joining #NATO.

This was declared by spokeswoman of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Maria #Zakharova

PeeJay
20-04-2022, 09:02 AM
Maybe my wording was harsh but you surely can’t believe that Germany is doing all it can? Do you really believe that it is doing enough?


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Your wording was completely wrong.

Justified criticism of Germany for what it does or doesn't do, is OK, I have no problem with that per se: I know some want the gas sanctioned, but I'm not convinced that that would do the job of stopping the war. If it fails to stop the war what good is then a decimated German industrial base (we are not a service nation like the UK)? What then, what is the next step? Russia has already clearly said at several opportunities: "**** your sanctions!"

The supplying of heavy armaments issue is also a difficult one for Germany - politically because Scholz doesn't really have the whole-hearted backing of his own party (its more LW and pro-Russki than he is) or indeed his coalition, and logistically, because Germany simply does not have enough heavy armaments to ship out - I don't think we could invade Liechtenstein with our run-down "army" at the moment. The highly-complex Marder vehicles and the Leopard tanks being asked for can't be operated by the Ukrainians without extensive and lengthy training and - something worthy of consideration - we may need them ourselves! Nobody mentions that for some reason? Germany has provided money to the Ukraine so that it can buy everything it needs from the arms manufacturer(s) (German, of course), but this will all take time (building, approving, shipping, training, deploying)

Former US General Petraeus said recently, when in the field, he always wanted more of this and that and he never ever felt he had enough to get the job done:, that's always the way it is in the theatre of war, I guess.

Germany is doing a lot and will continue to do so.

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 09:16 AM
Your wording was completely wrong.

Justified criticism of Germany for what it does or doesn't do, is OK, I have no problem with that per se: I know some want the gas sanctioned, but I'm not convinced that that would do the job of stopping the war. If it fails to stop the war what good is then a decimated German industrial base (we are not a service nation like the UK)? What then, what is the next step? Russia has already clearly said at several opportunities: "**** your sanctions!"

The supplying of heavy armaments issue is also a difficult one for Germany - politically because Scholz doesn't really have the whole-hearted backing of his own party (its more LW and pro-Russki than he is) or indeed his coalition, and logistically, because Germany simply does not have enough heavy armaments to ship out - I don't think we could invade Liechtenstein with our run-down "army" at the moment. The highly-complex Marder vehicles and the Leopard tanks being asked for can't be operated by the Ukrainians without extensive and lengthy training and - something worthy of consideration - we may need them ourselves! Nobody mentions that for some reason? Germany has provided money to the Ukraine so that it can buy everything it needs from the arms manufacturer(s) (German, of course), but this will all take time (building, approving, shipping, training, deploying)

Former US General Petraeus said recently, when in the field, he always wanted more of this and that and he never ever felt he had enough to get the job done:, that's always the way it is in the theatre of war, I guess.

Germany is doing a lot and will continue to do so.

Germany is giving less per gdp than any of the major nations. Ukraines military chief and nato top brass said Scholz was talking nonsense and they could be trained in days on the tank. Why would Ukraine ask to buy them if they didn't want them, instead Germany is selling to Greece for 100 million

In your opinion it wouldn't stop the war, but putins ex military aid and a number of Russian economists say it would end the war stopping fuel sales. Its estimated Germany would take a 3% gdp hit this year from it. Germany wanted Ukraine to take a 3% gdp hit every year going forward by continuing with nordstream 2, even after crimea.

The thing is Scholz even vetoed a 2024 date to stop oil and gas. Its about money

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/germany-could-be-off-russian-gas-by-winter-says-economic-think-tank/a-61413354

The German Institute for Economic Research (DIW), a Berlin-based think tank, says Germany could kick its dependency on Russian energy imports by winter of this year. That's considerably sooner than government estimates of mid-2024 or perhaps later.

The what if we need the tanks is ridiculous. Germany is a nato nation with no land border with Russia and 25 us nuclear bombs. Ukraine is going through genocide this second

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 09:20 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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Some 98,000 workers in #Russia are idle, which is 2.5 times higher than on March 1.

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 09:27 AM
Thomas C. Theiner
@noclador

Timeline of 🇩🇪's
@OlafScholz's many lies:

1) At the end of February Germany's defense industry sends Scholz a long list of all available weapons.
2) Scholz doesn't share the list with Ukraine.
3) Scholz says that there are no more weapons left in Germany to give to Ukraine

4) Germany's defense industry leakes the list to Ukraine's ambassador.
5) Scholz says that the weapons on the list don't work.
6) The defense industry denies this and leakes the list to the press.
7) Scholz states Ukrainians can't master the weapons in the available time

8) German defense experts tell the German press that Ukrainians can master the weapons in 2-3 weeks.
9) Scholz says the weapons are needed by NATO and NATO must approve their transfer.
10) NATO officials and German generals deny this.

11) Scholz says no other NATO/EU ally is delivering heavy weapons to Ukraine.
12) The US, UK, Australia, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Romania, Turkey, Italy, Finland, Denmark, Romania, Netherlands, etc. publish the lists of heavy weapon they deliver to Ukraine

13) Under pressure Scholz announces €2 billion for Ukraine's military.
14) German parliamentarians find out that it's really just €1 billion, which won't be available for another 2-3 months, and then Scholz can veto or delay indefinitely every item Ukraine wants to buy.

15) The US, France, Poland, Romania, Japan, the UK and Italy, plus the heads of EU and NATO spend an afternoon trying to talk sense into Scholz.
16) Scholz makes a statement and says Ukraine can have the €1 billion now and order whatever it wants from the list

17) Ukraine's ambassador says that Scholz removed all the items Ukraine actually wants from the list before giving it to Ukraine and what remains on the list is just a fraction of the €1 billion.

Scholz isn't incompetent or mendacious... he just works for the russians

Yesterday evening Ukraine's ambassador in Berlin
@MelnykAndrij
went on Germany's main evening news program and said that Scholz had removed 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘦𝘢𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴 Ukraine actually wants from the list of weapons Ukraine is allowed to buy in Germany

6 of the G7 have sent heavy weapons... only one country is missing. Can you guess which

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 09:29 AM
According to a poll by Demoskop, the number of supporters of #Sweden joining #NATO increased from 51% in March to 57% in April.

Today, 21% of respondents are against membership, while 22% find it difficult to answer

PeeJay
20-04-2022, 10:27 AM
Germany is giving less per gdp than any of the major nations. Ukraines military chief and nato top brass said Scholz was talking nonsense and they could be trained in days on the tank. Why would Ukraine ask to buy them if they didn't want them, instead Germany is selling to Greece for 100 million

In your opinion it wouldn't stop the war, but putins ex military aid and a number of Russian economists say it would end the war stopping fuel sales. Its estimated Germany would take a 3% gdp hit this year from it. Germany wanted Ukraine to take a 3% gdp hit every year going forward by continuing with nordstream 2, even after crimea.

The thing is Scholz even vetoed a 2024 date to stop oil and gas. Its about money

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/germany-could-be-off-russian-gas-by-winter-says-economic-think-tank/a-61413354

The German Institute for Economic Research (DIW), a Berlin-based think tank, says Germany could kick its dependency on Russian energy imports by winter of this year. That's considerably sooner than government estimates of mid-2024 or perhaps later.

The what if we need the tanks is ridiculous. Germany is a nato nation with no land border with Russia and 25 us nuclear bombs. Ukraine is going through genocide this second

I have read and heard "experts" over here who do not concur with your experts - I don't care much for "Russian" experts myself :greengrin

The German willingness to "hit" the Ukraine should perhaps be seen in the context of 25% of Russian gas "disappearing" in Ukrainian pipelines for some reason ... NS2 was one way of perhaps helping to alleviate that problem, but full reliance of Russian gas supply was plain stupid

The tanks issue was expressly referred to by Bundeswehr General Inspector Representative Laubenthal this morning on German national tv - he said they are needed here to ensure NATO and Bundeswehr commitments/requirements can be upheld, The German military run down obviously makes matters complicated too ...

Bundeswehr-Inspekteur erteilt Lieferung von Panzern an die Ukraine eine Absage - Deutschland - FOCUS Online (https://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/wir-brauchen-die-waffensysteme-bundeswehr-inspekteur-erteilt-lieferung-von-panzern-an-die-ukraine-eine-absage_id_86744197.html)-

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 10:51 AM
I have read and heard "experts" over here who do not concur with your experts - I don't care much for "Russian" experts myself :greengrin

The German willingness to "hit" the Ukraine should perhaps be seen in the context of 25% of Russian gas "disappearing" in Ukrainian pipelines for some reason ... NS2 was one way of perhaps helping to alleviate that problem, but full reliance of Russian gas supply was plain stupid

The tanks issue was expressly referred to by Bundeswehr General Inspector Representative Laubenthal this morning on German national tv - he said they are needed here to ensure NATO and Bundeswehr commitments/requirements can be upheld, The German military run down obviously makes matters complicated too ...

Bundeswehr-Inspekteur erteilt Lieferung von Panzern an die Ukraine eine Absage - Deutschland - FOCUS Online (https://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/wir-brauchen-die-waffensysteme-bundeswehr-inspekteur-erteilt-lieferung-von-panzern-an-die-ukraine-eine-absage_id_86744197.html)-

The two experts I put up last week were from an American and a Dutch university, I'd trust that as objective. They say stop the war in months. Perhaps not but it'd undeniably a massive massive hit to russia as its about half its economy.

25% of oil is just nonsense. There have been disputes and court cases about debts back and forward. If you think 25% just goes missing I don't know what to say. It's a good get out for Germany wanting to take a hit it wouldn't take itself

Nato denied this about the tanks, Slovakia is sending the majority of its air defences for example

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 10:54 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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European Council chief Charles Michel has traveled to Kyiv and will meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 11:04 AM
Brilliant. Let's win and they can all go home

NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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According to #Ukrainian border guards, more than a million citizens returned to #Ukraine from abroad

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 11:36 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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In #Poland, a monument to the Red Army, which previously unknown people doused with paint, was demolished

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1516734419716947977

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 11:39 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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Germany's chancellor is coming under increasing pressure for his restrained Ukraine policies – in Brussels, but also in Berlin.

A revolt has even begun within his own coalition, with calls growing louder for the country to supply Kyiv with heavy weapons. - Spiegel

https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/the-scholz-problem-discontent-grows-in-berlin-over-chancellor-s-ukraine-response-a-47dae068-fd09-4890-9ef8-d13c144b10a6

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 11:39 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1516351156951257092

Mike Sington
@MikeSington
Ukrainian millionaire asks Ukrainian military to bomb his mansion after he saw Russian troops inside on security cameras. So they did

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 12:19 PM
Oryx
@oryxspioenkop
· 29m
#UkraineWar: Russia is now visually confirmed to have lost more than 3000 vehicles and other pieces of (heavy) military equipment since it began its invasion of Ukraine on February 24.

Full list: https://oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

Stonewall
20-04-2022, 12:30 PM
The two experts I put up last week were from an American and a Dutch university, I'd trust that as objective. They say stop the war in months. Perhaps not but it'd undeniably a massive massive hit to russia as its about half its economy.

25% of oil is just nonsense. There have been disputes and court cases about debts back and forward. If you think 25% just goes missing I don't know what to say. It's a good get out for Germany wanting to take a hit it wouldn't take itself

Nato denied this about the tanks, Slovakia is sending the majority of its air defences for example

The Germans do have previous for this. Just ask the Greeks.

Hibrandenburg
20-04-2022, 12:55 PM
Sweeden, Switzerland, Romania and Japan to name a few had almost centuries old non aggressive pacts. They all recalled parliament and ripped them up to stop the genocide. But most of all that is a ridiculous excuse as Germany has sent lots of deadly weapons to russia, so it doesn't make sense.

I don't think I've seen anything in the British press about this. I linked a left wing professor from St Andrews, a German war a strategy professor, a socialist Italian, a German Die Bild political reporter and an SPD MP. Even Baerbock the foreign minister for the greens, said this is not time for excuses they need heavy weapons. The only people I've seen defending it is the far right afd.

Spd has a big problem with Russia. Close friend of Putin Gerhard Schröder is still a member and still has a place on the roseneft board and other German Russian oil interests

Thomas C. Theiner
@noclador
·
9h
The European parliament had a vote to take russian propaganda TV channels off air.

Below are the votes of Germany's MEPs. The only German party voting AGAINST this was
@OlafScholz
's
@spdde
.

Even the kremlin-aligned AfD and Linke didn't vote as kremlin-servile as the SPD

25804

Russian German reporter
Sergej Sumlenny
@sumlenny

I said it - and I'll say it again. The #SPD is a greater danger to our democracy than the #AfD or the #Linke . ( although the latter two are already clearly anti-democratic and dangerous)I'm not sure it's worth my time debating further if you can't see the historical difference between Sweden, Switzerland, Romania and Germany. Even Japan is not comparable with Germany because the Japanese still haven't come to terms with their part in the 2nd world war, to this day Japanese schools brush over what happened prior to the atomic bombs being dropped and see themselves as victims rather than perpetrators of atrocities.

We're not talking simply about a non aggression policy here, we're talking about non aggression being enshrined in the German constitution. A huge part of the German education system is dealing with Germany's recent past and you can't just press a button and reset the German psychy.

Quoting a Russian journalist claiming that the SPD are the biggest threat to democracy made me laugh out loud, that thought is completely absurd in a world with Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, Orban, Le Penn and last but not least Vladimir Putin and his henchmen.

As for Germany supplying Russia with weapons, well so has the UK and most other European nations, they certainly haven't done so since the invasion of Ukraine.

I'm not making excuses for Germany, they can do that just fine by themselves, but at the risk of repeating myself I'm offering an insight into what I think is driving German decision making.

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Hibrandenburg
20-04-2022, 12:57 PM
Maybe my wording was harsh but you surely can’t believe that Germany is doing all it can? Do you really believe that it is doing enough?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJust out of interest, which countries do you think are doing enough?

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Hibrandenburg
20-04-2022, 01:05 PM
Germany is giving less per gdp than any of the major nations. Ukraines military chief and nato top brass said Scholz was talking nonsense and they could be trained in days on the tank. Why would Ukraine ask to buy them if they didn't want them, instead Germany is selling to Greece for 100 million

In your opinion it wouldn't stop the war, but putins ex military aid and a number of Russian economists say it would end the war stopping fuel sales. Its estimated Germany would take a 3% gdp hit this year from it. Germany wanted Ukraine to take a 3% gdp hit every year going forward by continuing with nordstream 2, even after crimea.

The thing is Scholz even vetoed a 2024 date to stop oil and gas. Its about money

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/germany-could-be-off-russian-gas-by-winter-says-economic-think-tank/a-61413354

The German Institute for Economic Research (DIW), a Berlin-based think tank, says Germany could kick its dependency on Russian energy imports by winter of this year. That's considerably sooner than government estimates of mid-2024 or perhaps later.

The what if we need the tanks is ridiculous. Germany is a nato nation with no land border with Russia and 25 us nuclear bombs. Ukraine is going through genocide this secondI spent 8 hours yesterday with a former German Panzer crew member and we discussed this, he said there's no way an inexperienced crew could use a leopard tank and it's complicated technology effectively. He said it was difficult enough have 1 of the 4 crew being inexperienced but a whole new crew just wouldn't work.

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Ozyhibby
20-04-2022, 01:57 PM
Just out of interest, which countries do you think are doing enough?

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Enough maybe not the right word. It’s not just abroad that people are criticising Germany, it’s happening within Germany and even in Scholz’s own govt.
This guy seems to be doing everything he can to slow down any help for Ukraine. He appears to be getting dragged kicking and screaming all the way. He is certainly not taking a leadership position on things. He’s just in the job and he already appears to be weak.


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Hibrandenburg
20-04-2022, 03:23 PM
Enough maybe not the right word. It’s not just abroad that people are criticising Germany, it’s happening within Germany and even in Scholz’s own govt.
This guy seems to be doing everything he can to slow down any help for Ukraine. He appears to be getting dragged kicking and screaming all the way. He is certainly not taking a leadership position on things. He’s just in the job and he already appears to be weak.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes, he is coming across as a ditherer. I've said from the off that Germany will eventually bow to pressure from within on their pacifist stance, but I thought it would be the Greens dragging their feet rather than the SPD. Paradoxically the AfD taking a pro Putin stance will probably increase public support for delivering heavy weapons, but like PeeJay already mentioned the Bundeswehr is hardly the best equipped army in the world.

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Ozyhibby
20-04-2022, 03:43 PM
Yes, he is coming across as a ditherer. I've said from the off that Germany will eventually bow to pressure from within on their pacifist stance, but I thought it would be the Greens dragging their feet rather than the SPD. Paradoxically the AfD taking a pro Putin stance will probably increase public support for delivering heavy weapons, but like PeeJay already mentioned the Bundeswehr is hardly the best equipped army in the world.

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Germany has large arms manufacturers that the Ukrainian are willing to buy direct from but Scholz is blocking this as well.

https://twitter.com/bctallis/status/1516062084131430403?s=21&t=gx8F6VlOERgh4c_qC5XXRg
Thread on German response.


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Smartie
20-04-2022, 03:53 PM
https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1516795859673001987?cxt=HHwWhsC9yYnz3owqAAAA

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 03:56 PM
Yes, he is coming across as a ditherer. I've said from the off that Germany will eventually bow to pressure from within on their pacifist stance, but I thought it would be the Greens dragging their feet rather than the SPD. Paradoxically the AfD taking a pro Putin stance will probably increase public support for delivering heavy weapons, but like PeeJay already mentioned the Bundeswehr is hardly the best equipped army in the world.

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But the pacifist stance is just a get out. They have sent stingers, Javelins, grenades and riffles. What are they being used for if not death, they sent the first load in February.

It's not the uk saying it it's Germans of all parties, even spd.

Thomas C. Theiner
@noclador
·
3h
More incoherent nonsense from
@OlafScholz
:

• 🇩🇪 Germany's 40 year old Leopard tanks are too complex for Ukrainian people to operate and service, but
• 🇺🇦 Ukraine can have brand new radars, jammers, and EW equipment, which are challenging to operate and complicated to service


Reinhard Bütikofer
@bueti
Greens MEP

Berlin should not rely on the fact that our partners in the EU & NATO and above all the Ukraine will not soon lose their patience in view of the policy of delaying and covering up their tracks. In Brussels, the damage that all this is causing is enormous. #QuoUsqueTandem

Ozyhibby
20-04-2022, 04:12 PM
https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1516795859673001987?cxt=HHwWhsC9yYnz3owqAAAA

Great news.[emoji122][emoji122][emoji122] Pressure must be building in Germany on the govt.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-will-end-oil-imports-russia-by-year-end-says-minister-2022-04-20/


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PeeJay
20-04-2022, 05:00 PM
The two experts I put up last week were from an American and a Dutch university, I'd trust that as objective. They say stop the war in months. Perhaps not but it'd undeniably a massive massive hit to russia as its about half its economy.

25% of oil is just nonsense. There have been disputes and court cases about debts back and forward. If you think 25% just goes missing I don't know what to say. It's a good get out for Germany wanting to take a hit it wouldn't take itself

Nato denied this about the tanks, Slovakia is sending the majority of its air defences for example

The experts you referenced in the post I replied to were Russian, I believe?

It was gas - and as to where it went! Well, it was claimed that Ukraine was "diverting it" for its own purposes: As to stuff going missing! Russia is a kleptocracy, as you know, because money and assets "just go missing"! Everybody knows Ukraine was an extremely corrupt state before the war, which is why it had no chance of joining the EU - at least not yet.

You say NATO denies this about the tanks, yet the German Bundeswehr General Inspector is also part of NATO and he spoke of NATO commitments/requirements?

You seem to be of the impression that most Germans involved in this are lying about everything and anything to do with this "genocide" - you really need to stop that? This belief on here that there are simple answers and you just need to put some tanks on a plane, train or boat and ship them off is truly nonsense. Putin must be loving all this finger-pointing at Germany!

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 06:14 PM
The experts you referenced in the post I replied to were Russian, I believe?

It was gas - and as to where it went! Well, it was claimed that Ukraine was "diverting it" for its own purposes: As to stuff going missing! Russia is a kleptocracy, as you know, because money and assets "just go missing"! Everybody knows Ukraine was an extremely corrupt state before the war, which is why it had no chance of joining the EU - at least not yet.

You say NATO denies this about the tanks, yet the German Bundeswehr General Inspector is also part of NATO and he spoke of NATO commitments/requirements?

You seem to be of the impression that most Germans involved in this are lying about everything and anything to do with this "genocide" - you really need to stop that? This belief on here that there are simple answers and you just need to put some tanks on a plane, train or boat and ship them off is truly nonsense. Putin must be loving all this finger-pointing at Germany!

Don't put genocide in speach marks, brutal chat. Abduction of thousands of children and changing there language, smashing of Ukrainian symbols and flags.

6 out of 7 g7 countries have sent heavy weapons on a plane easy enough. Its beyond patronising to say Ukraine didn't know what it was talking about when it asked to buy the tanks.

Putin will be furious not delighted. The west has never been so in unity. Sweden, Germany, Romania, Switzerland, Japan ect have gave up almost a century of pacifist to stop him. Finland and Sweden joining NATO, this is a disaster. As the German green MEP said, its one nation everyone in Brussels is pointing at

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·
22m
Former Chancellor Schroder started this rather rotten, corrupted maneuver.

Germany has allowed itself to be corrupted by Russian gas - and this also burdens Merkel's government, without a doubt,

says former President of the European Council and Polish politician Donald Tusk.

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 06:16 PM
Guy Elster
@guyelster
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#BREAKING In #Kyiv, European Council chief says the bloc would do everything possible to help #Ukraine to win the war with #Russia. Zelensky told him that EU membership is Ukraine's top priority

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 06:19 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1516829338242621442


Володимир Зеленський
@ZelenskyyUa

Ukraine government official
Join millions of voices in a global social media campaign: #ArmUkraineNow

1. Post a picture with a sign saying #ArmUkraineNow
2. Call on your government to provide heavy weapons to Ukraine
3. Tag 3 friends and ask them to do the same

Stand with the Ukrainian people

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 06:19 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

#Indian steel company Tata Steel terminates cooperation with #Russia

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 06:19 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·
1h
There’s been a debate among experts on international relations whether Hungary would veto Finland’s application for NATO membership.

Finland’s President Sauli Niinistö just announced that he has talked to his Hungarian counterpart and received assurances that 🇭🇺 will support 🇫🇮

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 06:22 PM
Mehreen Khan
@MehreenKhn
EU economy commissioner Paolo Gentiloni walked out of a G20 meeting in Washington today when Russian finance minister (dialling in) spoke. Yellen and Sunak not attending some sessions in protest over Russia's war in Ukraine

The BoE's Andrew Bailey and a senior Treasury official also left the room along with US and Canadian representatives #g20

Add to that the Dutch representative and French economy minister Bruno Le Maire (who switched off his video dialing in from Paris

Ukraine's PM and finance minister addressed the #G20 finance meeting today and were also part of the walkout when Russia's Anton Siluanov spoke. The session has now resumed

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 06:24 PM
Jack Detsch
@JackDetsch
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BREAKING: U.S. has BEGUN training about 50 Ukrainian military advisors on using American provided howitzer artillery systems at an undisclosed location in Europe: senior U.S. defense official

Ukrainians should be able to learn to use systems within days, officials believe

cabbageandribs1875
20-04-2022, 06:24 PM
wee bully boy today issues a fresh warning to Finland and Sweden

Ukraine war: Russia issues new warning to Sweden and Finland over NATO (theworldnews.net) (https://theworldnews.net/uk-news/ukraine-war-russia-issues-new-warning-to-sweden-and-finland-over-nato)

Russia has issued a fresh warning to Finland and Sweden over joining NATO, as the two countries draw closer to becoming part of the military alliance.
Maria Zakharova, spokesman for Russia's foreign ministry, said today that both countries have been informed 'what it will lead to' if they abandon decades-old neutrality agreements and become NATO members.
'We have issued all our warnings both publicly and through bilateral channels,' she told the Rossiya 24 state media channel. 'They know about it, they will have nothing to be surprised about, they were informed about everything.'

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 06:25 PM
Jack Detsch
@JackDetsch
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1h
NEW: Ukraine has added more than 20 fighter jets available by fixing inoperable aircraft with parts supplied from Europe: senior U.S. defense official

Russia still DOES NOT have air superiority on Day 56 of the war

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 06:35 PM
Romeo Kokriatski
@VagrantJourno

A small story of Russian slave raids on Ukraine - my cousin's wife's family, from Mariupol, have been 'evacuated' to Russia. First they were sent to Taganrog, then Rostov, now Khabarovsk in the far east. No one tells them why they're being sent, for what reason,
or what they'll do once there. Just an endless, inhuman bureaucratic system forcefully shipping slaves wherever it desires. We don't know how to get them back to Ukraine or how to help them in Russia - just waiting and waiting to hear a scrap of news off a borrowed phone call.
It is inconceivable to me that this is happening in the 21st century, in the civilized world. What will they made to do? Shipped off to a kolkhoz as free slave labor? Loyalty camp? GULAG? How will they ever get home?

Russia must be defeated. Moscovia delenda est. There is no other moral, or hell, even practical response to this sort of mass abduction. Nothing but the utter defeat of the fascist regime in the Kremlin. By any means necessary.
I am so tired. My cousins and my aunt are fighting. My best friends are fighting. Some of my family have already lost their house. Now others have been kidnapped - they may be distant relatives, but they are still relatives.
And then smug mother****ers sit thousands of miles away and smirk and say 'Why don't you surrender???'

You piece of ****. You ****ing human debris.

Nothing matters, in the world, than the defeat of the fascist Reich. ****ing nothing else. Don't believe me? Come to Ukraine

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 07:16 PM
Julian Röpcke🇺🇦
@JulianRoepcke
#Scoop
@BILD
just revealed that the “industry list” of weapons, German companies offer to Ukraine, was sharply cut short by
@OlafScholz
’ government before giving 🇺🇦 the chance to buy arms in Germany.
Among others, all heavy weapons were removed from it.
https://bild.de/bild-plus/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/ukraine-krieg-wie-kanzler-scholz-mit-waffenlisten-trickste-79826290.bild.html

While Ukraine was offered Marder IFV, Boxer APC and even Leopard-2 MBT as well as Panzerhaubitze 2000 by German companies, it is not allowed to buy any of these systems in Germany now, despite having all of them on a “needs” list, handed by 🇺🇦 MoD to 🇩🇪 MoD in late March.

Even worse, Kyiv sent two more desperate requests for heavy weapons to Berlin on April 9 and April 16 - just three days before the Scholz speech. Both of them were ignored and our
@Bundeskanzler
falsely claimed yesterday that the “industry list” was coordinated with the 🇺🇦 MoD.

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 07:17 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

The #US has expanded sanctions against #Russia

The restrictions will apply to another 30 individuals and 40 legal entities, in particular, Transcapitalbank, Otkritie Bank, etc

AFP News Agency
@AFP
·

#BREAKING Evacuation from Ukraine's besieged Mariupol 'did not work': Kyiv

Stairway 2 7
20-04-2022, 07:18 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1516854063027167237

Ukrainian soldier cries after meeting a blind elderly woman who isn’t aware of how badly her house was destroyed in a Russian attack.

She asks him “it’s cold, could you close the door”, not knowing that half the roof is gone.

They called her relatives

Ozyhibby
20-04-2022, 08:20 PM
Julian Röpcke[emoji1255]
@JulianRoepcke
#Scoop
@BILD
just revealed that the “industry list” of weapons, German companies offer to Ukraine, was sharply cut short by
@OlafScholz
’ government before giving [emoji1255] the chance to buy arms in Germany.
Among others, all heavy weapons were removed from it.
https://bild.de/bild-plus/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/ukraine-krieg-wie-kanzler-scholz-mit-waffenlisten-trickste-79826290.bild.html

While Ukraine was offered Marder IFV, Boxer APC and even Leopard-2 MBT as well as Panzerhaubitze 2000 by German companies, it is not allowed to buy any of these systems in Germany now, despite having all of them on a “needs” list, handed by [emoji1255] MoD to [emoji629] MoD in late March.

Even worse, Kyiv sent two more desperate requests for heavy weapons to Berlin on April 9 and April 16 - just three days before the Scholz speech. Both of them were ignored and our
@Bundeskanzler
falsely claimed yesterday that the “industry list” was coordinated with the [emoji1255] MoD.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1516859291889774599?s=21&t=kPIssFvNlSV4o0xHMFIk_A
Not sure how German politics works but it’s possible Scholz could be in trouble.


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Renfrew_Hibby
20-04-2022, 08:56 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NUklrt_4Mio

Some of the sh_it getting pumped out on Russian telly.

judas
20-04-2022, 08:59 PM
Has anyone here actually considered that Russia may use its nukes should Finland or Sweden join NATO? To make threats and not follow through is not Putinesque.

Ozyhibby
20-04-2022, 09:15 PM
Has anyone here actually considered that Russia may use its nukes should Finland or Sweden join NATO? To make threats and not follow through is not Putinesque.

We have to just keep doing the right thing and hope not.


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Bridge hibs
21-04-2022, 05:55 AM
Putin now testing his super undetectable Satan missiles that can carry multiple nuclear warheads, this maniac is just not going to stop is he 🤬

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 06:02 AM
Putin is clearly just Putin his fingers up to the west, as in battle this unit got smashed and had to retreat across the border

Putin has given an honorary title to one of the units Ukraine says slaughtered civilians in Bucha.

He thanked the 64th Motor Rifle Brigade for their "mass heroism protecting the fatherland, Russia's sovereignty, and its national interests" in Ukraine.

http://kremlin.ru/events/president/letters/68234

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 06:04 AM
Huge hall from America arrived last night

Jack Detsch
@JackDetsch
·
Zelensky, tonight: "I am very pleased to say, with cautious optimism that our partners started to understand our needs better ... And when exactly we need this. Not in weeks, not in a month, but immediately. Right now, as Russia is trying to intensify its attacks

Ozyhibby
21-04-2022, 06:39 AM
Putin now testing his super undetectable Satan missiles that can carry multiple nuclear warheads, this maniac is just not going to stop is he [emoji2959]

It’s not going to help him win this war.


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Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 06:43 AM
It’s not going to help him win this war.


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Yep. It was announced in 2018 to be finished testing in 19, but has been besieged by problems. Its reminiscent of Germany making a large show of the v2 rocket. Russia has to do what it needs to do in months not years, as weapons and men can't be replaced now

Jones28
21-04-2022, 08:20 AM
Looks like Russia are blockading the Steel plant in Mariupol and busses are slowly getting people out. 4 left yesterday.

Ozyhibby
21-04-2022, 11:17 AM
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-david-mcwilliams-podcast/id1462649946?i=1000557987717
Podcast on German refusal to help Ukraine by cutting the gas.


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Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 11:26 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

BREAKING:

The Estonian Parliament has become the world’s first parliament to adopt a resolution declaring Russia’s crimes in Ukraine as “genocide”.

An hour later, the Latvian parliament unanimously passed the same type of resolution

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 11:42 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/evangershkovich/status/1517074978688090112


Evan Gershkovich
@evangershkovich
This is the story of Moscow police employee Sergei Klokov, who is facing 10 years in prison for condemning Russia’s war in Ukraine in private phone calls that were tapped by the authorities. “We think we are fighting fascism, but there isn’t fascism there

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 11:44 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv

⚡️⚡️#Austria has stopped importing and refining oil from Russia, says the oil and gas company @omv

NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

#Spanish and #Danish Prime Ministers Pedro #Sanchez and Mette #Frederiksen are on a working visit to #Kyiv

PeeJay
21-04-2022, 11:51 AM
Don't put genocide in speach marks, brutal chat. Abduction of thousands of children and changing there language, smashing of Ukrainian symbols and flags.

6 out of 7 g7 countries have sent heavy weapons on a plane easy enough. Its beyond patronising to say Ukraine didn't know what it was talking about when it asked to buy the tanks.

Putin will be furious not delighted. The west has never been so in unity. Sweden, Germany, Romania, Switzerland, Japan ect have gave up almost a century of pacifist to stop him. Finland and Sweden joining NATO, this is a disaster. As the German green MEP said, its one nation everyone in Brussels is pointing at

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·
22m
Former Chancellor Schroder started this rather rotten, corrupted maneuver.

Germany has allowed itself to be corrupted by Russian gas - and this also burdens Merkel's government, without a doubt,

says former President of the European Council and Polish politician Donald Tusk.

I was quoting your previous post - it's common practice to use quotation marks, surely? It wasn't my intention to throw any doubt on the war/genocide currently underway in Ukraine ...

grunt
21-04-2022, 12:50 PM
#BREAKING In #Kyiv, European Council chief says the bloc would do everything possible to help #Ukraine to win the war with #Russia. Zelensky told him that EU membership is Ukraine's top priority
Which serves to remind us how monumentally stupid the UK was to vote for Brexit.

Dalianwanda
21-04-2022, 01:44 PM
25 Ukrainian refugees have just moved in next door to me. I was over taking a couple of curries i’d made for them. Strength positivity and how grateful they were to be here was humbling. I’ve arranged to take them on a ramble up the mountain up the back of the village (nice walk and will give them a chance to get their bearings on the surrounding area).

DH1875
21-04-2022, 01:52 PM
Looks like Russia are blockading the Steel plant in Mariupol and busses are slowly getting people out. 4 left yesterday.

No chance the Azov battalion (or what's left of them) are getting out alive. Even if they surrender their ducked.

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 01:59 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1517138899520294914


Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
In 2016, Julian Assange turned down a large cache of documents related to the Russian government.

WikiLeaks declined to publish a wide-ranging trove of documents that came from inside the Russian Interior Ministry, according to partial chat logs reviewed by Foreign Policy

Ozyhibby
21-04-2022, 02:01 PM
https://twitter.com/joyce_karam/status/1517118119784951808?s=21&t=KTXvn3jXmtMoeXJDj4PJJg

Interesting. There has been a few fires like this in last couple of weeks.


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Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 02:19 PM
Richard Vaughan
@RichardVaughan1
·
4m
Biden announces $800m in military support for Ukraine, including heavy artillery, dozens of howitzers and nearly 150k rounds of ammunition

Ozyhibby
21-04-2022, 02:39 PM
Richard Vaughan
@RichardVaughan1
·
4m
Biden announces $800m in military support for Ukraine, including heavy artillery, dozens of howitzers and nearly 150k rounds of ammunition

I think that’s going to be a weekly announcement.[emoji106]


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Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 04:02 PM
Jack Detsch
@JackDetsch
·
U.S. has now provided enough artillery systems to equip five Ukrainian battalions, 100 155mm howitzer systems in two weeks: Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 04:05 PM
The Kyiv Independent
@KyivIndependent
· 50m
⚡️Biden announces additional $800 million military aid to Ukraine.

The U.S. president said on April 21 that it sent a message to Putin: "He will never succeed in dominating and occupying all of Ukraine."

Biden also announced a ban for Russian ships to enter U.S. ports.

Jack Detsch
@JackDetsch
· 59m
US-made Phoenix Ghost tactical drones that are being provided to Ukraine are one-way drones similar to Switchblade systems that loiter over targets: senior US defense official

“It’s designed to deliver a punch,” the official said. It was developed by US Air Force for Ukraine

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 04:11 PM
Jack Detsch
@JackDetsch
· 31m
NEW: Ukraine has more tanks available in country than Russia, thanks to European deliveries of Soviet-era T-72 tanks: senior defense official

U.S. has NO tanks to give Ukraine because 🇺🇦 military is using Soviet-era equipment

Phillips P. OBrien
@PhillipsPOBrien
·
11m
Stat of the day that I wasn’t expecting. Russian tank losses have been so high and Ukrainian so low, (and the Ukrainians have received so many new tanks and seized so many working Russian ones) that Ukraine has more tanks available now in country than Russia

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 04:12 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

ExxonMobil, one of the world's largest oil companies, is considering leaving #Russia completely by June 24 - Reuters

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 05:04 PM
@visegrad24
Continental AG, the German car parts supplier, has announced that it has restarted production at its Russian tyre plant in Kaluga.

The company says the decision was not driven by profit, but to protect local workers who could otherwise face criminal charges

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 05:11 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·
5m
The Dmitrievsky Chemical Plant near Moscow is on fire & beyond saving.

It’s one of Russia’s largest manufacturers of chemical solvents.

The Aerospace Defence Research Institute in Tver burned down earlier in the day.

We are starting to notice a pattern

Ozyhibby
21-04-2022, 05:18 PM
@visegrad24
Continental AG, the German car parts supplier, has announced that it has restarted production at its Russian tyre plant in Kaluga.

The company says the decision was not driven by profit, but to protect local workers who could otherwise face criminal charges

Tyre brands to avoid in future.
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Ozyhibby
21-04-2022, 05:22 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1517191349367418880?s=21&t=KTXvn3jXmtMoeXJDj4PJJg

Oligarchs meeting sticky ends?


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Jim44
21-04-2022, 05:25 PM
Whoever wins this dreadful conflict, where does Putin stand? If Russia either fails or succeeds in it’s genocidal campaign or Ukraine somehow manage to ‘survive’, how and by whom can Putin be taken to task for his war crimes? Is he simply above international justice?

Ozyhibby
21-04-2022, 05:42 PM
Whoever wins this dreadful conflict, where does Putin stand? If Russia either fails or succeeds in it’s genocidal campaign or Ukraine somehow manage to ‘survive’, how and by whom can Putin be taken to task for his war crimes? Is he simply above international justice?

He can’t and won’t be allowed to succeed in Ukraine now. And Russia will now remain isolated until he is out of power.


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Ozyhibby
21-04-2022, 05:42 PM
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/olaf-scholz-is-becoming-putin-s-most-valuable-ally

Pressure building on Scholz.


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judas
21-04-2022, 06:03 PM
Is he simply above international justice?

Agree. I despair when I hear people talking about making Putin accountable for war crimes. That will NEVER happen and they are deluded.

We aren’t taking about Nazis, Khmer Rouge or Serbian Generals here.
Only the protagonists within defeated powers stand trial.

Putin will not allow the collapse of Russia seen at the end of the Cold War with the Soviet Union. It will be scorched earth tactics like Hitler but with genuine weapons of mass destruction at his disposal.

So Russian defeat may not occur without a serious nuclear exchange.
. After that, would it even be a priority to pursue war crimes action and would credible state apparatus even exist to do so in a new world order?

I have often thought that ultimately there are 3 questions:
1. Is Ukraine worth a nuclear war?
2. If not what are the precise actions that would trigger a massive western military response directly aimed at Russia?
3. What would the magnitude of that response be and are the losses acceptable?

Russia has one mind. The West is comprised of many, with different tolerance thresholds. That is it’s weakness in the event of a quick and present escalation.

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 06:12 PM
He'll get toppled from inside. Once it's clear in Russia they have lost which will eventually happen as the can't resupply. Also when Europe moves from Russian fuel and half their income goes. The army they have left won't work for free.
The countries upper and middle class won't happily be poor, when they know a bullet in Putin gives them back trade in the West

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 06:15 PM
Over 80% of missles fired at Kyiv were shot down. Ukraine has a basic missile defense system. If Russia did get a nuke through the net all military defences would be flattened. I'd be dubious their nukes work, looking at the rest of their army

Hibrandenburg
21-04-2022, 06:36 PM
Tyre brands to avoid in future.
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I take it you won't be shopping in Marks & Spencers again too. Here's some more to avoid.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-uk-sanctions-companies-latest-b2058676.html%3famp

judas
21-04-2022, 06:38 PM
He'll get toppled from inside. Once it's clear in Russia they have lost which will eventually happen as the can't resupply. Also when Europe moves from Russian fuel and half their income goes. The army they have left won't work for free.
The countries upper and middle class won't happily be poor, when they know a bullet in Putin gives them back trade in the West

I think that may have been the case in the old Russian political set up. But this one has been remodelled around Putin and this hampers any Khrushchev style removal. The agitator bodies in that system have less power in this one.

Putin is in a small circle of tyrants, all in it together, all culpable and with a great deal to lose.

judas
21-04-2022, 06:41 PM
Over 80% of missles fired at Kyiv were shot down. Ukraine has a basic missile defense system. If Russia did get a nuke through the net all military defences would be flattened. I'd be dubious their nukes work, looking at the rest of their army

That is interesting. Source?

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 07:01 PM
That is interesting. Source?

The 80%? It was on here over a week ago, I'll look

Smartie
21-04-2022, 07:03 PM
Agree. I despair when I hear people talking about making Putin accountable for war crimes. That will NEVER happen and they are deluded.

We aren’t taking about Nazis, Khmer Rouge or Serbian Generals here.
Only the protagonists within defeated powers stand trial.

Putin will not allow the collapse of Russia seen at the end of the Cold War with the Soviet Union. It will be scorched earth tactics like Hitler but with genuine weapons of mass destruction at his disposal.

So Russian defeat may not occur without a serious nuclear exchange. After that, would it even be a priority to pursue such war crimes action and would any serious state apparatus even exist in a new world order?

I have often thought that ultimately there are 3 questions:
1. Is Ukraine worth a nuclear war?
2. If not what are the precise actions that would trigger a massive western response directly aimed at Russia?
3. What would the magnitude of that response be?

Russia has one mind. The West is comprised of many, with different tolerance thresholds. That is it’s weakness in the event of a quick and present escalation.

The problem if the answer to 1. Being no is - how much do you appease Putin, how much genocide do you let him away with and when does nuclear war become worth it?

I have issues with aspects of what the West have done in the decades leading up to where we’ve found ourselves but now we find ourselves where we do, I think we need to go full strength on someone who only understands strength.

It’s a desperate state of affairs and I struggle not to see it as a lose / lose situation but I cannot see anything that is preferable (or less worse) than paggering Russias economy, helping Ukraine forces to pagger their forces in Ukraine and seeing what happens.

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 07:17 PM
That is interesting. Source?
Can't see the same one but this russian source has a worse rate.

At the same time, Ukrainian air defense set a record for downed targets: out of at least 70 missiles fired by Russia, only eight flew. The rest were destroyed in the sky

https://theins.ru/news/249702

The US says up to 60% of Russian missiles are faulty also

https://www.google.com/amp/s/english.alarabiya.net/amp/News/world/2022/03/25/Russian-missiles-in-Ukraine-have-failure-rate-of-up-to-60-percent-US-officials-say

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 07:24 PM
I take it you won't be shopping in Marks & Spencers again too. Here's some more to avoid.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-uk-sanctions-companies-latest-b2058676.html%3famp

Yep me and oz spoke about m and s on this thread. Although it's a Turkish company that owns the franchises in Russia and refuses to close, m and s are refusing to stock them

We talked about Unilever before they eventually stopped. Ritter sport, leroy , nestle and herbalife still there unfortunately. Burger King and subway say they can't because franchises are staying open

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 07:26 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

The transport ship Ysabel of the Spanish Navy is on its way to Poland.

It is bringing 200 tons of weapons for Ukraine.

A lot of trucks and ammunition in the cargo

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 07:29 PM
Jack Detsch
@JackDetsch
·
DoD update on Day 57 of 🇷🇺 invasion of 🇺🇦: senior U.S. defense official

• 🇺🇸 could get first howitzer artillery to 🇺🇦 by this weekend
• 🇺🇸 is giving 🇺🇦 121 new "Phoenix Ghost" drones designed specifically for war with 🇷🇺
• 🇺🇦 now has MORE tanks than 🇷🇺 on the battlefield

Smartie
21-04-2022, 07:37 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

The transport ship Ysabel of the Spanish Navy is on its way to Poland.

It is bringing 200 tons of weapons for Ukraine.

A lot of trucks and ammunition in the cargo

I read this post at roughly the same time as I read this tweet…

https://mobile.twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1517217440433856513?cxt=HHwWgoCzgafOno4qAAAA

I wonder if there is any link here?

All these “fires” in Russia today are a bit mad, aren’t they?

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 07:54 PM
I read this post at roughly the same time as I read this tweet…

https://mobile.twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1517217440433856513?cxt=HHwWgoCzgafOno4qAAAA

I wonder if there is any link here?

All these “fires” in Russia today are a bit mad, aren’t they?

Don't know what to make of it all. Seems too many similar targets to be a coincidence.

Jim44
21-04-2022, 08:36 PM
He can’t and won’t be allowed to succeed in Ukraine now. And Russia will now remain isolated until he is out of power.


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He'll get toppled from inside. Once it's clear in Russia they have lost which will eventually happen as the can't resupply.

These relate to his standing in Russia and a fall from grace. My question concerns his fate in global justice terms. Can he be held answerable to powers outside Russia?

Stairway 2 7
21-04-2022, 08:39 PM
These relate to his standing in Russia and a fall from grace. My question concerns his fate in global justice terms. Can he be held answerable to powers outside Russia?

Heads of state only get held answerable after the fall or are defeated usually

Ozyhibby
21-04-2022, 08:45 PM
I think that may have been the case in the old Russian political set up. But this one has been remodelled around Putin and this hampers any Khrushchev style removal. The agitator bodies in that system have less power in this one.

Putin is in a small circle of tyrants, all in it together, all culpable and with a great deal to lose.

They’ve already lost a lot. Some will be getting a nod from the Americans that it doesn’t have to be this way for them if he is gone.


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Ozyhibby
21-04-2022, 08:48 PM
These relate to his standing in Russia and a fall from grace. My question concerns his fate in global justice terms. Can he be held answerable to powers outside Russia?

I very much doubt you’ll ever see him in a dock. I think he’ll meet a much swifter end.


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judas
21-04-2022, 08:50 PM
Can't see the same one but this russian source has a worse rate.

At the same time, Ukrainian air defense set a record for downed targets: out of at least 70 missiles fired by Russia, only eight flew. The rest were destroyed in the sky

https://theins.ru/news/249702

The US says up to 60% of Russian missiles are faulty also

https://www.google.com/amp/s/english.alarabiya.net/amp/News/world/2022/03/25/Russian-missiles-in-Ukraine-have-failure-rate-of-up-to-60-percent-US-officials-say

Many thanks Stairway. It’s reassuring.

degenerated
21-04-2022, 08:57 PM
Don't know what to make of it all. Seems too many similar targets to be a coincidence.Definitely sabotage. Who is behind is the curious bit. Russians, Ukrainians or someone else.

Ozyhibby
21-04-2022, 09:28 PM
Definitely sabotage. Who is behind is the curious bit. Russians, Ukrainians or someone else.

I think there are 4 million Ukrainians living in Russia so I guess there will be no shortage of people there willing to do this sort of stuff but most likely it will be Ukrainian secret service.


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degenerated
21-04-2022, 09:32 PM
I think there are 4 million Ukrainians living in Russia so I guess there will be no shortage of people there willing to do this sort of stuff but most likely it will be Ukrainian secret service.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou'd have to think the likes of US would have actors in there trying to stir things up as well.

Hibrandenburg
22-04-2022, 03:30 AM
These relate to his standing in Russia and a fall from grace. My question concerns his fate in global justice terms. Can he be held answerable to powers outside Russia?He won't live long enough.

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Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 05:44 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

#Ukrainian Minister of Economy Yulia Sviridenko:

"We expect to be an #EU candidate this summer, and in 2024 - to become a full member of the European Union

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 05:49 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

#Japan's Foreign Ministry in its annual diplomacy report "Blue Book" labeled the southern part of the #Kuril Islands as "illegally occupied".

An official publication of the document is expected in the coming days, Kyodo news agency reported

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 05:50 AM
OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical
·

More info about the Phoenix Ghost drone- “The drone can take off vertically, fly for six-plus hours searching for or tracking a target, and operate at night using its infrared sensors” and apparently is effective against “medium armored targets

That is a significantly more capable platform than the Switchblade

I imagine with all the US ISR support they’re getting, the Ukrainians could start going after Russian command posts at night

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 06:02 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

The Foreign Policy Committee of the Finnish Parliament visited its counterpart in Sweden today.

According to the newspaper Aftonbladet, the Finns revealed that their estimates show around 180 of 200 MPs in the Finnish Parliament will vote for NATO membership.

“It’s a done deal

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 06:04 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1517267556528185345

WAPO- New mass grave points to war crimes in Mariupol, Ukrainian officials say

https://washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/21/new-mass-grave-manhush-near-mariupol

In Manhush, a village located about 12 miles west of Mariupol, Maxar satellite imagery shows "several rows of graves in four distinct sections, each measuring nearly 280 feet

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 06:12 AM
Jack Detsch
@JackDetsch
·

DATA: Russian combat power remaining in Ukraine (troops, weapons and military equipment), per a senior U.S. defense official

Feb 24 - 100 percent
March 11 - 90 percent
March 15 - 90 percent
March 22 - 89 percent
April 12 - 80 percent
April 19 - 75 percent

Ozyhibby
22-04-2022, 07:05 AM
OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical
·

More info about the Phoenix Ghost drone- “The drone can take off vertically, fly for six-plus hours searching for or tracking a target, and operate at night using its infrared sensors” and apparently is effective against “medium armored targets

That is a significantly more capable platform than the Switchblade

I imagine with all the US ISR support they’re getting, the Ukrainians could start going after Russian command posts at night

I think I read somewhere that the Ukrainians have mostly been operating at night because the have all the night vision kit and the Russians don’t.


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Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 09:04 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

#Belgian brewer
@AnheuserBusch
has decided to sell its stake in #Russia.

In addition, Anheuser-Busch InBev announced that it is bringing the #Ukrainian beer brand Chernihivske to several markets in Europe.

All proceeds from the sale will go to humanitarian aid.

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 09:12 AM
Oliver Carroll
@olliecarroll
·

Russian military for the first time says it is aiming for control over the entire of southern Ukraine. Forget “denazification,” now it’s officially about joining Transnistria with Russia and denying Ukraine access to the sea. https://interfax.ru/world/837353

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 09:14 AM
Thomas C. Theiner
@noclador
·

🇺🇸🇬🇧🇨🇦: delivering M777A2 155mm howitzers
🇳🇱: delivering PzH 2000 155mm howitzers
🇫🇷: delivering CAESAR 155mm howitzers

🇺🇦 Ukraine is getting 120+ of the best howitzers in the world

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 09:21 AM
https://inews.co.uk/news/ukraine-troops-travel-from-frontline-of-war-with-russia-to-uk-to-learn-how-to-use-armoured-vehicles-1587981

Ukraine troops travel from frontline of war with Russia to UK to learn how to use armoured vehicles
More than two dozen members of Ukraine’s armed forces are in the UK for training on how to the use armoured vehicles that will be supplied to the frontline

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 10:15 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1517439571193180161

I have not yet heard the answer to a very fundamental question from the federal government: does the federal government want Ukraine to win this war?

asks Green Party of Germany politician Marina Weisband
@Afelia

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 10:15 AM
ADIT AeroDef
@ADITAeroDef
·

https://ouest-france.fr/politique/emmanuel-macron/le-risque-d-escalade-en-ukraine-est-tres-fort-d79f638e-c1a5-11ec-8a48-02f9bba22954
French President
@EmmanuelMacron
unveils in an interview with
@OuestFrance
that France is sending an undisclosed number of #CAESAR 155m artillery systems to #Ukraine

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 10:20 AM
1,200 French companies operated in Russia before the 24th of Feb.

Among major foreign companies that continue business activities in Russia, 36 out of 434 companies come from France.

French companies are the slowest to withdraw from Russia compared to other European companies

https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/04/22/french-companies-continue-doing-business-as-usual-in-russia/?swcfpc=1

25808

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 10:23 AM
Naomi O'Leary
@NaomiOhReally
Exclusive: EU document reveals the value of assets frozen under Russian sanctions per member state.
It reveals wide differences.
As of April 5:
France: ~€24bln
Belgium: €10bln
Ireland: ~€1bln
Italy: €1.1bln
Germany: €341,595
Hungary: "volume very low"

The figure for Germany will have risen since, as authorities in Hamburg last week impounded one of the world's largest motor yachts, oligarch Alisher Usmanov's Dilbar, which has a vast indoor swimming pool and two helipads, and is said to be worth $735 million by US Treasury

The Dilbar featured in a press release by the US Treasury on March 3. The EU and US work together to find sanctioned assets and this would suggest Germany was under pressure to seize it for a month before they did (it has been in Hamburg since October) https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0628

Assets seized by Italy include a single car worth €600,000. This was an armoured Mercedes also belonging to Usmanov that he kept in Sardinia, according to Italian media reports. He's a metals and mining magnate and close Putin ally

Denmark's figure was given as €4,195, while Portugal, Romania, and Croatia did not provide estimates.
Variation is due to uneven distribution of Russian assets but also political will: decisions to freeze sanctioned assets are made by national governments https://irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/eu-states-freeze-over-36bn-of-russian-assets-1.4858814

France froze €22 bln in Russian central bank assets, but has also been aggressive in going after oligarch yachts, mansions and art.
The SWIFT HQ in Belgium likely accounts for some of its figure.
Ireland's total now exceeds one billion.
Details all here:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/eu-states-freeze-over-36bn-of-russian-assets-1.4858814

Ozyhibby
22-04-2022, 12:09 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/22/business/russia-living-with-sanctions/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_term=link&utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2022-04-22T11%3A43%3A21

Sanctions starting have an effect in Russia?


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Ozyhibby
22-04-2022, 12:17 PM
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/scholz-says-top-priority-is-avoiding-nato-confrontation-with-russia-2022-04-22/
Scholz is beginning to make me sick.[emoji2961]


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Ozyhibby
22-04-2022, 02:46 PM
https://twitter.com/markhertling/status/1517507077215764481?s=21&t=791Vi6o-NDmDXeC2MfA8lw
Interesting thread on all those new cannons.


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Hibrandenburg
22-04-2022, 02:55 PM
OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical
·

More info about the Phoenix Ghost drone- “The drone can take off vertically, fly for six-plus hours searching for or tracking a target, and operate at night using its infrared sensors” and apparently is effective against “medium armored targets

That is a significantly more capable platform than the Switchblade

I imagine with all the US ISR support they’re getting, the Ukrainians could start going after Russian command posts at nightThe Russians are completely ignorant of ECCM and I'm sure most of their command centres will already have been triangulated by NATO. Most HQs will be out of artillery range but hopefully these drones will make them available for targeting.

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Ozyhibby
22-04-2022, 03:10 PM
The Russians are completely ignorant of ECCM and I'm sure most of their command centres will already have been triangulated by NATO. Most HQs will be out of artillery range but hopefully these drones will make them available for targeting.

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Me too, what’s ECCM? [emoji51][emoji23]


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Hibrandenburg
22-04-2022, 03:18 PM
Me too, what’s ECCM? [emoji51][emoji23]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkElectronic Counter Counter Measures.

ECM is things like triangulation of radio signals and jamming frequencies, ECCM is trying to avoid that by having good radio and comms discipline.

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Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 03:22 PM
Ungrateful Ukrainians complain after being liberated by Russia, at how Mariupol is hell

https://mobile.twitter.com/Quicktake/status/1517496800571269120

Bloomberg Quicktake
@Quicktake
"Hell is what's happening there."

Civilians who managed to escape Mariupol speak of the terror they experienced as Russia seeks control of southern Ukraine

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 03:49 PM
122 challenger tanks getting sent to Poland so they can send t72 to Ukraine

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

BREAKING:

Boris Johnson confirms Great Britain will hand over Challenger 2 tanks to Poland in a backfill that will allow Poland to send even more of its T-72s to Ukraine

Ozyhibby
22-04-2022, 03:54 PM
https://twitter.com/osint88/status/1517523880331681794?s=21&t=791Vi6o-NDmDXeC2MfA8lw

More infrastructure accidents in Russia. Krasnador flooded.[emoji106]


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Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 04:18 PM
OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical
·

The Ukrainians are reporting that due to international sanctions, production at the Ulyanovsk Mechanical Plant has halted. The plant is responsible for a number of products, including the Buk, Tunguska, Pantsir, and other complex systems

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 04:18 PM
Bellingcat
@bellingcat
·

The Navalny documentary, featuring Bellingcat's
@christogrozev
and the work of Bellingcat investigating Navalny's poisoning, will be broadcast on BBC Two on Monday at 9pm

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 04:24 PM
https://twitter.com/osint88/status/1517523880331681794?s=21&t=791Vi6o-NDmDXeC2MfA8lw

More infrastructure accidents in Russia. Krasnador flooded.[emoji106]


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https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1517538587151159297

And more

Ozyhibby
22-04-2022, 04:25 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1517538587151159297

And more

Great work behind enemy lines going on.[emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]


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lapsedhibee
22-04-2022, 06:06 PM
Electronic Counter Counter Measures.

ECM is things like triangulation of radio signals and jamming frequencies, ECCM is trying to avoid that by having good radio and comms discipline.


I'd like to hear Patel explain that. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk4EMBXxG5A)

Hibrandenburg
22-04-2022, 06:17 PM
I'd like to hear Patel explain that. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk4EMBXxG5A)

:greengrin

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 07:58 PM
Frankfurter Allgemeine gesamt
@FAZ_NET
Ein

The Bundesbank has now confirmed that an energy embargo would weaken the German economy but not overthrow it. The government is running out of arguments, comments
@JoPennekamp

https://m.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/gas-embargo-bundesregierung-wegen-verweigerung-unter-druck-17975763.html

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 08:00 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·
1h
Russia represses opposition politicians again

Vladimir Kara-Murza has been Russia's leading opposition figure since the arrest of Navalny.

A criminal case was opened against politician for "fakes" about the Russian army. Today he was arrested. He faces up to 10 years in prison

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 08:04 PM
OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical
·

Canadian National Defense news release- “Canada has now delivered a number of M777 howitzers and associated ammunition to the Security Forces of Ukraine

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 08:09 PM
Someone on here before whilst talking about the Azov ect was saying Zelensky is a billionaire and a crook. Turns out as suspected it was Russian propaganda. Forbes estimates his wealth at £14 million. Mostly from selling of his shares in his production company when he became president, also the rights to his comedies

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-ukraine-zelenskiy-idUSL2N2WI1ES

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 08:11 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/22/how-uk-intelligence-came-tweet-lowdown-war-ukraine/

How U.K. intelligence came to tweet the lowdown on the war in Ukraine

cabbageandribs1875
22-04-2022, 08:26 PM
Moldova getting the threats now, i'm sure they've been expecting them since putins 'peacekeepers' moved in, i presume those in Georgia will be a tad worried as well

Russia threatens Moldova after Ukraine in dramatic expansion of Putin’s war objectives (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-threatens-moldova-after-ukraine-in-dramatic-expansion-of-putin-s-war-objectives/ar-AAWuBdj?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8cfabcc11c9c413fac37b367960a88aa)

Russia has raised the prospect of an invasion of Moldova if Vladimir Putin succeeds in his military objectives in neighbouring Ukraine.

Stairway 2 7
22-04-2022, 09:32 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Spoonamore/status/1517510440598843394

A thread on how huge the chemicals plant fire is to russia

Ozyhibby
22-04-2022, 09:47 PM
Moldova getting the threats now, i'm sure they've been expecting them since putins 'peacekeepers' moved in, i presume those in Georgia will be a tad worried as well

Russia threatens Moldova after Ukraine in dramatic expansion of Putin’s war objectives (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-threatens-moldova-after-ukraine-in-dramatic-expansion-of-putin-s-war-objectives/ar-AAWuBdj?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8cfabcc11c9c413fac37b367960a88aa)

Russia has raised the prospect of an invasion of Moldova if Vladimir Putin succeeds in his military objectives in neighbouring Ukraine.

I would think that Moldova might not be as worried now as they would have been previously. I would say there is close to zero chance that Russia will be getting to Moldova anytime soon.


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Ozyhibby
22-04-2022, 09:51 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Spoonamore/status/1517510440598843394

A thread on how huge the chemicals plant fire is to russia

[emoji1696][emoji1696][emoji1696][emoji1696]
Fair play to Ukraine, they appear to have planned meticulously for this war and look like absolute pro’s on every level.


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Ozyhibby
22-04-2022, 10:14 PM
https://twitter.com/alexluck9/status/1517623861684031489?s=21&t=stVwIPAVxsndAOWLWau7JA

German arms manufacturers working directly with Ukraine without telling German govt.


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Kato
22-04-2022, 10:40 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Spoonamore/status/1517510440598843394

A thread on how huge the chemicals plant fire is to russiaInteresting stuff, thanks. Given the substances involved that will effect almost all non-military industries as well. I like the idea that it may have been a hack rather than boots on the ground but it's a bit scary too.

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Ozyhibby
23-04-2022, 05:09 AM
https://twitter.com/canadianukrain1/status/1517589061225140226?s=21&t=Wog5D-OUKHvTmt-7mMS10A

[emoji106]


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Hibrandenburg
23-04-2022, 07:34 AM
https://twitter.com/alexluck9/status/1517623861684031489?s=21&t=stVwIPAVxsndAOWLWau7JA

German arms manufacturers working directly with Ukraine without telling German govt.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkUnder the German Kriegswaffengesetz (war weaponry law), this kind of technology doesn't fall into the category of weaponry and thus doesn't receive the same scrutiny as guns, tanks or artillery pieces. However there are still controls on export of these so called "Rüstungsgüter" and I'm sure they will have been given the nod by the Bundessicherheitsrat, otherwise they run the risk of being closed down.

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Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 08:20 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

Dmitry Medvedev mocked the Europeans who cannot refuse Russian gas

In his telegram post, he wrote that European Commission allowed payment for the #Russian gas in rubles. After that, he mocked #Europeans, adding that they will not be able to live even a week without Russian gas

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 08:21 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

The #US Department of Defense is looking to accelerate the production of effective weapons, the use of which requires minimal training, in order to supply them to #Ukraine

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 08:24 AM
Jesus. Spd are too Russian leaning

NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

50% of #Germans oppose the supply of heavy weapons to #Ukraine, according to a poll conducted by Insa Institute.

Another 43% of respondents support the idea of sending such weapons to #Kyiv

55 percent of SPD voters spoke out against, 41 percent for the delivery. In contrast, 55 percent of the Union voters voted for the delivery of heavy weapons, 40 percent against. According to the survey, 72 percent of the Greens voters were in favor of the delivery, 25 percent against it

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 08:40 AM
Trent Telenko
@TrentTelenko
·
4h
Excalibur with the Canadian 155mm guns is a big <Bleeping> deal.

It is to artillery projectiles what the Javelin is to anti-tank missiles.

It can drop within 2 meters of a target at 40 km in its current 'Excalibur Ib' variant fired from a 155mm/39 caliber gun.

Short form:

Ukrainian artillery counter battery as accurate and deadly as Javelin missiles at nine times the range.

TB2's & Excalibur's together will eat Russian artillery in Donbas like buttered popcorn, fast & enjoyably.

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 08:42 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1517650449066827776

visegrad24
The story of how France used a loophole in an EU embargo to send weapons to Russia that are now being used against Ukraine m.

the story on how Russia is using French weapons to kill Ukrainians

Trent Telenko
@TrentTelenko
·

Ukraine is taking a major shot at Marcon's France here.

Don't <Bleep> with Ukraine's Viking Vendetta culture. They prefer open enemies like Le Pen to a backstabber like Macron.

The Germans had better be worried

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 08:43 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1517704761486807040

nexta_tv
#Ukrainian Ombudsman for Human rights of the Verkhovna Rada Lyudmila #Denisova reports that #Russian occupiers raped and killed a woman and her 15-year-old daughter.

The older daughter (17 years old) lived for four days in a house with the bodies of her mother and sister

Ozyhibby
23-04-2022, 08:44 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1517650449066827776

visegrad24
The story of how France used a loophole in an EU embargo to send weapons to Russia that are now being used against Ukraine m.

the story on how Russia is using French weapons to kill Ukrainians

Trent Telenko
@TrentTelenko
·

Ukraine is taking a major shot at Marcon's France here.

Don't <Bleep> with Ukraine's Viking Vendetta culture. They prefer open enemies like Le Pen to a backstabber like Macron.

The Germans had better be worried

That’s the type of kit the Russian just don’t have and won’t be able to get.


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Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 08:45 AM
@TrentTelenko
I think this UK Telegraph story is going to hurt French Pres. Macron a lot in the election.

Le Pen can rightly say there won't be a francs worth of difference between her & Macron as President on Russia.

Sure Le Pen took Putin's money.

Macron did to with arms sale

There is literally no where a pro-Ukrainian French voter can express their support of Ukraine in the French Presidential Election.

When voters hate both choices.

They stay home.

What an utter mess, given that US Economic sanctions against France & Germany have been triggered

Exclusive: France and Germany evaded arms embargo to sell weapons to Russia

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 08:46 AM
visegrad24
This is how the total sum of U.S. military aid to Ukraine has increased step by step since Russia's invasion.

February 25: $350 mln
March 12: $550 mln
March 16: $1.35 bn
April 1: $1.65 bn
April 5: $1.75 bn
April 13: $2.55 bn
April 21: $3.35 bn

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 08:47 AM
Bide your time Moldova, then take your land back

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·
7h
BREAKING:

The Moldovan Ministry of Foreign Affairs has summoned Russia’s Ambassador over statements made today by a Russian top military commander, who suggested Moldova's Russian-speaking population was being oppressed

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 08:52 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·
France is one of the EU states that used a loophole in the EU’s weapons embargo that was placed on Russia after its invasion of Ukraine in 2014.

French thermal cameras made by Thales are being used by Russian Infantry Fighting Vehicles to kill Ukrainian soldiers & civilians

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 08:54 AM
Ukraine will have the second highest amount of artillery in the world behind the US, also the most up to date


Oryx
@oryxspioenkop
·
Belgium is looking to supply Ukraine with 155mm M109A4BE self-propelled guns (SPGs) 🇧🇪 https://m.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20220420_97999804

At this rate Ukraine will get more than 300 howitzers before the end of this month

Hibrandenburg
23-04-2022, 08:56 AM
Jesus. Spd are too Russian leaning

NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

50% of #Germans oppose the supply of heavy weapons to #Ukraine, according to a poll conducted by Insa Institute.

Another 43% of respondents support the idea of sending such weapons to #Kyiv

55 percent of SPD voters spoke out against, 41 percent for the delivery. In contrast, 55 percent of the Union voters voted for the delivery of heavy weapons, 40 percent against. According to the survey, 72 percent of the Greens voters were in favor of the delivery, 25 percent against itYou're at it again, being against supplying heavy weaponry to a war zone doesn't mean they're siding with Russia.

Russians fighting against German tanks would be a huge PR scoop for Putin, he's already sold his war as denazification at home, imagine the effect pictures of German tanks fighting Russian troops would have on a nation that annually celebrates the defeat of Nazi Germany. If you want to unite Russia behind Putin, I can think of no better way than to tell them the Germans are back.

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Hibrandenburg
23-04-2022, 08:59 AM
@TrentTelenko
I think this UK Telegraph story is going to hurt French Pres. Macron a lot in the election.

Le Pen can rightly say there won't be a francs worth of difference between her & Macron as President on Russia.

Sure Le Pen took Putin's money.

Macron did to with arms sale

There is literally no where a pro-Ukrainian French voter can express their support of Ukraine in the French Presidential Election.

When voters hate both choices.

They stay home.

What an utter mess, given that US Economic sanctions against France & Germany have been triggered

Exclusive: France and Germany evaded arms embargo to sell weapons to Russia

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/If I was a Russian intelligence operative tasked with sowing seeds of mistrust amongst the allies, then this is exactly the kind of posts I'd be making on social media.

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Hibrandenburg
23-04-2022, 09:01 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·
France is one of the EU states that used a loophole in the EU’s weapons embargo that was placed on Russia after its invasion of Ukraine in 2014.

French thermal cameras made by Thales are being used by Russian Infantry Fighting Vehicles to kill Ukrainian soldiers & civiliansThe UK has also supplied Russia with weaponry since 2014.

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Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 09:16 AM
The UK has also supplied Russia with weaponry since 2014.

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Companies fulfilled the existing deals then almost zero pound since 2016. Germany and France have supplied hundreds of millions continuously as the original Swiss article said weeksago. It's just that last night it was revealed on Ukrainian TV and today its in lots of the press

Ozyhibby
23-04-2022, 09:17 AM
The UK has also supplied Russia with weaponry since 2014.

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Yip, I don’t think anyone has clean hands on enabling the Russians between 2014-2022. I’m way more concerned about what’s happening now.
I’m not even that concerned that Germany is failing to supply arms but to do it on top off still sending money to Russia every day is a disgrace. And let’s not forget that the UK is still buying gas and oil from Russia today as well. It all needs to stop now.


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Ozyhibby
23-04-2022, 09:20 AM
Companies fulfilled the existing deals then almost zero pound since 2016. Germany and France have supplied hundreds of millions continuously as the original Swiss article said weeksago. It's just that last night it was revealed on Ukrainian TV and today its in lots of the press

And a good chance UK banks were used to hide large amounts of the cash from the deals. I’m much more concerned with what’s happening now and the French appear to be stepping up now with supply of weapons.


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Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 09:20 AM
If I was a Russian intelligence operative tasked with sowing seeds of mistrust amongst the allies, then this is exactly the kind of posts I'd be making on social media.

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The allies have never been more united. Scholz said the main reason reason of not sending heavy weapons is a war with nato. Although most nato nations have sent heavy weapons. I wouldn't worry what Putin thinks, he's lost over a quarter of his military in a month and its just getting started

Nations in Europe that have sent heavy weapons in blue
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Ozyhibby
23-04-2022, 09:23 AM
The allies have never been more united. Scholz said the main reason reason of not sending heavy weapons is a war with nato. Although most nato nations have sent heavy weapons. I wouldn't worry what Putin thinks, he's lost over a quarter of his military in a month and its just getting started

Nations in Europe that have sent heavy weapons in blue
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The problem with Germany is Scholz. I think with just about any other chancellor there would have been action by now.


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Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 09:26 AM
The problem with Germany is Scholz. I think with just about any other chancellor there would have been action by now.


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Spd as a whole if the poll is correct. A lot of Germans were brought up with Russian propaganda at school I suppose.

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 09:37 AM
The Associated Press
@AP
· 1h
Ukrainian and British officials say Russian troops are pressing their offensive in the eastern Donbas region in an attempt to fully seize Ukraine’s industrial heartland but have made little headway as Ukrainian counterattacks have slowed their efforts


Guy Elster
@guyelster
·
39m
Same failed tactics from the first phase. #Russia's only successful tactics are siege and destruction #UkraineRussiaWar

Kato
23-04-2022, 10:08 AM
If I was a Russian intelligence operative tasked with sowing seeds of mistrust amongst the allies, then this is exactly the kind of posts I'd be making on social media.

Sent from my SM-A505FN using TapatalkThe Telegraph has taken millions from Putin. I don't mistrust everything they say but have plenty room fro scepticism at the timing and content of anything they print.

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Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 10:15 AM
The Telegraph has taken millions from Putin. I don't mistrust everything they say but have plenty room fro scepticism at the timing and content of anything they print.

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It was an investigate Europe report from weeks ago
https://www.investigate-europe.eu/en/2022/eu-states-exported-weapons-to-russia/

It's just big just now because it was on Ukrainian TV yesterday. The telegraph just reporting on that like all the rest today

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ten-eu-countries-sold-kit-to-russia-despite-sanctions-dtt3jxgfs

https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/23/ukraine-france-and-germany-sents-arms-to-russia-despite-eu-blockade-16521171/amp/

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/alp-rolls-out-senior-ministers-as-albo-vows-i-ll-be-back-20220423-p5afkj

Hibrandenburg
23-04-2022, 10:16 AM
The Telegraph has taken millions from Putin. I don't mistrust everything they say but have plenty room fro scepticism at the timing and content of anything they print.

Sent from my SM-A528B using Tapatalk:agree: Some of the German sources posted on here are also dodgy. Bild Zeitung for example is like the Sun on steroids.

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Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 10:16 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·
13m
Prime Minister of #Ukraine Denys Shmygal met with US Deputy Energy Secretary David Turk and IMF Head Kristalina Georgieva.

At the meetings they discussed an increase in supply of nuclear fuel from the #US as well as imposition of an embargo on Russian fuel for NPPs, oil and gas

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 11:32 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

The Spokeswoman of Russia’s Foreign Ministery, Maria Zakharova, warns Greece that the historically close relations between the 2 countries are in danger after Athen’s decision to expel 12 diplomats.

She says Russia helped Greece win independence & they are brothers in faith

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 11:33 AM
C4H10FO2P
@markito0171
·
113 MPs of #Finland's Parliament now support #NATO membership, 12 oppose https://pic.twitter.com/PUkn1ITbI4

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 11:33 AM
Jack Detsch
@JackDetsch
·
NEW: Ukraine's counter-attacks have prevented Russian troops from making ANY major gains in Ukraine in past 24 hours: UK Defense Intelligence

Russia has NOT established control of Ukraine's seas or skies, UK assesses "owing to the effectiveness of Ukraine’s air & sea defence

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 12:54 PM
Anne Applebaum
@anneapplebaum
The Atlantic

In Russia the state has ordered publishers to eliminate the word "Ukraine" from textbooks. An attempt to erase a nation and a people, and to leave no trace, has begun

https://zona.media/article/2022/04/23/enlightenment

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 12:54 PM
Olga Tokariuk
@olgatokariuk
·
35m
We were about to begin decorating freshly baked Easter cakes when the air raid siren went off. So instead we are in a bomb shelter now. Alerts were issued in all of Ukraine. Odesa was hit by missiles. Russians are hell-bent on destroying any resemblance of normal life in 🇺🇦

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 01:03 PM
Alex Raufoglu
@ralakbar
· 13h
List of Russian oligarchs who have been found dead in mysterious circumstance since Jan, per Newsweek

✔️ Sergey Protosenya
✔️ Vladislav Avaev
✔️ Vasily Melnikov
✔️ Mikhail Watford
✔️ Alexander Tyulyakov
✔️ Leonid Shulman

Smartie
23-04-2022, 01:05 PM
Anne Applebaum
@anneapplebaum
The Atlantic

In Russia the state has ordered publishers to eliminate the word "Ukraine" from textbooks. An attempt to erase a nation and a people, and to leave no trace, has begun

https://zona.media/article/2022/04/23/enlightenment

This is despicable.

Russia have to be stopped.

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 01:45 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

The Polish PM has just revealed that Poland has sent Ukraine 1.6 billion euros worth of weapons

Kato
23-04-2022, 04:40 PM
It was an investigate Europe report from weeks ago
https://www.investigate-europe.eu/en/2022/eu-states-exported-weapons-to-russia/

It's just big just now because it was on Ukrainian TV yesterday. The telegraph just reporting on that like all the rest today

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ten-eu-countries-sold-kit-to-russia-despite-sanctions-dtt3jxgfs

https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/23/ukraine-france-and-germany-sents-arms-to-russia-despite-eu-blockade-16521171/amp/

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/alp-rolls-out-senior-ministers-as-albo-vows-i-ll-be-back-20220423-p5afkjThat's what I mean by timing. If the report is weeks old, why amplify it now. Not saying I have answers to that but am very wary of anyone or any org that has taken Putin's cash.

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Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 04:52 PM
That's what I mean by timing. If the report is weeks old, why amplify it now. Not saying I have answers to that but am very wary of anyone or any org that has taken Putin's cash.

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The top report was from weeks ago the bottom three from today plus telegraph and dozens of other news agencies. They are reporting it today because it was on Ukrainian TV last night, this clip of a report has almost a million views in a day.

https://www.voanews.com/amp/ukraine-trying-to-evacuate-women-children-elderly-from-mariupol/6541892.html

https://m.jpost.com/international/article-704877/amp

Ozyhibby
23-04-2022, 04:53 PM
That's what I mean by timing. If the report is weeks old, why amplify it now. Not saying I have answers to that but am very wary of anyone or any org that has taken Putin's cash.

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No idea why but it seems to happen quite a bit. A recent one was Sunak’s tax affairs which had been in Private eye a while ago but only picked up recently by MSM?


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Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 04:53 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·
5m
⚡️#Turkey closes airspace to #Russian military and civilian aircraft flying to #Syria.

This was announced by Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 04:54 PM
Kyiv Independent
@KyivIndependent
·
⚡️ Military intelligence: 2 Russian generals killed near Kherson.

According to Defense Ministry’s Intelligence Directorate, the military hit a Russian command post near occupied regional capital Kherson, allegedly killing two Russian generals and wounding one

Ozyhibby
23-04-2022, 04:57 PM
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Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 05:00 PM
Alex Luck
@AlexLuck9
·
1h
Zelenskyy-advisor: "When the British sent Starstreak SAM, they said use is rather difficult. They assessed it would take us at least three months to learn operating it. We downed the first Russian helicopter after two weeks. And more than a further dozen since." h/t
@ClaudMajor
Der speigel

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 05:03 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/guyelster/status/1517887381147467776

Poland: T-72 tanks on their way to #Ukraine border

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 06:07 PM
Jimmy
@JimmySecUK
·

In his press conference Zelensky announces he's meeting US Secretary of State Blinken and US Secretary of Defense Austin who will arrive in Kyiv tomorrow

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 08:28 PM
Oliver Carroll
@olliecarroll
·

Zelensky on today’s Odesa rocket attacks, where at least 8 have died “One of victims was 3 months old! 1 month old when the war started. What has come of the world?! ****bags! Stinking ****bags

Mr Grieves
23-04-2022, 09:05 PM
Evil *******s

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/23/homes-for-ukraine-whistleblower-says-uk-refugee-scheme-is-designed-to-fail

The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, said he had dealt with numerous cases where UK visas had been issued for an entire Ukrainian family apart from one child, which in effect stopped the family travelling to the UK.

“This allows the government to say we’ve issued lots of visas. Yet, because they have withheld one, it’s a guarantee those Ukrainians won’t travel,” said the source.

Hibrandenburg
23-04-2022, 10:18 PM
Evil *******s

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/23/homes-for-ukraine-whistleblower-says-uk-refugee-scheme-is-designed-to-fail

The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, said he had dealt with numerous cases where UK visas had been issued for an entire Ukrainian family apart from one child, which in effect stopped the family travelling to the UK.

“This allows the government to say we’ve issued lots of visas. Yet, because they have withheld one, it’s a guarantee those Ukrainians won’t travel,” said the source.

Feeding the war and not offering any realistic aid sums up this xenophobic government. Here's some weapons, do our dirty work for us but just don't expect us to offer you shelter.

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 10:24 PM
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Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 10:27 PM
Michael Bociurkiw
@WorldAffairsPro
·
#BREAKING President Zelensky says around half a million people - including 5,000 children - have been forcibly deported to the Russian Federation from occupied areas of #Ukraine️

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 10:29 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

Another mass grave was found near #Mariupol - near cemetery of the occupied village of Vinogradne, which is 5 kilometers from the city.

According to the city authorities, at least a 1000 people may be buried there

Stairway 2 7
23-04-2022, 10:47 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

Polish PM
@MorawieckiM
met with his Ukrainian counterpart
@Denys_Shmyhal
today.

They signed a deal that will help 🇺🇦 send its exports through Polish ports since Russia’s blockade has cut them off from the Black Sea.

Grain will head for Africa & the Middle East through 🇵🇱

Ozyhibby
24-04-2022, 03:35 AM
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eee4933e-c2f4-11ec-89cf-700d6fc613dc?shareToken=041d4eb163ee5eff23b5b72d14 729bdc

How UK failed to back Ukraine.


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Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 06:51 AM
How Belarusian railway saboteurs helped thwart Russia’s attack on Kyiv.

From ⁦@LizSly⁩: https://washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/23/ukraine-belarus-railway-saboteurs-russia/

Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 06:57 AM
TheStudyofWar
·
April 23 Assessment Highlight:

#Russia is continuing their pattern of operations: committing small collections of units to dispersed attacks along multiple axes and refusing to accept necessary operational pauses to set conditions for decisive operations.
https://isw.pub/RusCampaignApr

Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 06:57 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

BREAKING:

Without making it public, Slovakia has started transferring T-72 tanks to Ukraine.

Two of them were spotted today in the Luhansk region, heading for the frontlines

Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 07:03 AM
A great thread on the status of the Russian army in the east

https://mobile.twitter.com/WarintheFuture/status/1518018839610466304

Hibrandenburg
24-04-2022, 07:13 AM
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eee4933e-c2f4-11ec-89cf-700d6fc613dc?shareToken=041d4eb163ee5eff23b5b72d14 729bdc

How UK failed to back Ukraine.


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Everyone should read this, the West as a whole have failed Ukraine, some countries for fear of poking the Russian bear and others for personal gain. We need to stop pointing the finger at each other and start helping each other turn the screw on Russia where each individual country can.

lapsedhibee
24-04-2022, 07:19 AM
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eee4933e-c2f4-11ec-89cf-700d6fc613dc?shareToken=041d4eb163ee5eff23b5b72d14 729bdc

How UK failed to back Ukraine.


Good article, though surprised to see Grieve described as a Remainer in the context of his chairing of the intelligence and security committee. Seemed quite gratuitous.

Little wonder Johnson is seen as a shape shifting creep by the current US administration.

Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 08:00 AM
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/is-the-russian-military-a-paper-tiger

Is the Russian military a paper tiger

hibsbollah
24-04-2022, 08:03 AM
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eee4933e-c2f4-11ec-89cf-700d6fc613dc?shareToken=041d4eb163ee5eff23b5b72d14 729bdc

How UK failed to back Ukraine.


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It would have a lot more weight as an article if it told the unspoken truth that the only people in the commons who were warning about Putins expansionism for over a decade, were Corbyn and a small collection like him on the left. By contrast, I can’t seem to find any evidence that Sir Michael Fallon was a public voice for reigning in Putin, there’s no actual evidence presented for that at all, apart from him saying he was now, with the benefit of hindsight.

Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 08:25 AM
Christopher Miller
@ChristopherJM
·

Valeria Hlodan & her infant daughter were 2 of 8 people killed in Odesa today by Russian missiles. Her post on Instagram where this photo was shared read: “Those were the best 40 weeks. Our girl is a month old now. Papa gave her her first flowers. It’s a new level of happiness

Ozyhibby
24-04-2022, 08:35 AM
It would have a lot more weight as an article if it told the unspoken truth that the only people in the commons who were warning about Putins expansionism for over a decade, were Corbyn and a small collection like him on the left. By contrast, I can’t seem to find any evidence that Sir Michael Fallon was a public voice for reigning in Putin, there’s no actual evidence presented for that at all, apart from him saying he was now, with the benefit of hindsight.

There were plenty of people in the commons warning if it which is why there were so many reports and recommendations for the govt to ignore. And on both sides of the house. Chris Bryant, Liam Fox, Ian Duncan Smith etc etc. Unfortunately they were all ignored in favour of pocketing truckloads of Russian roubles.


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Ozyhibby
24-04-2022, 09:05 AM
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/is-the-russian-military-a-paper-tiger

Is the Russian military a paper tiger

Great article. I really do think that the Russians will start losing more territory over the next few weeks.


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LeithMike
24-04-2022, 09:44 AM
Everyone should read this, the West as a whole have failed Ukraine, some countries for fear of poking the Russian bear and others for personal gain. We need to stop pointing the finger at each other and start helping each other turn the screw on Russia where each individual country can.Great article and great post. I wonder if Boris Johnson has learned from his mistakes with Russia as Foreign Secretary? If so, it does put him an ideal position now for knowing how to handle Russia rather than a novice Prime Minister. The thing is, he's lied so many times that nobody could genuinely know and he now has to be removed.

Its a shame that we never learn from our mistakes.

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hibsbollah
24-04-2022, 10:51 AM
There were plenty of people in the commons warning if it which is why there were so many reports and recommendations for the govt to ignore. And on both sides of the house. Chris Bryant, Liam Fox, Ian Duncan Smith etc etc. Unfortunately they were all ignored in favour of pocketing truckloads of Russian roubles.


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Fox and IDS were both in the cabinet when voting in favour of bills to remove restrictions on foreign finance and hosting countless dinners and fundraisers for Putin’s oligarchs which they will have been well aware of. So I’d be looking at dates of who said what when before you start believing what those with their noses in the trough are saying now. Mandelson and Blair’s cosying up to Putin is also on public record. Countless dead in Grozny and Syria exactly the same tactics as now but of limited interest then.

See this from Peter ‘ex Telegraph hack but now can’t get a job for love nor money anymore’ Oborne on the subject
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/russia-ukraine-war-jeremy-corbyn-right-putin-oligarchs

Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 11:51 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·
21m
Big news from Italy.

Corriere della Sera reports that Italian PM Draghi is preparing to send heavy weapons to Ukraine in the next military aid package.

M109 self-propelled howitzers (SPG) and ultramodern PzH2000 SPGs could all be sent together with armored vehicles

Italy’s new military aid package will also include machine guns, anti-tank missile systems and lots of ammunition.

The package is expected to be finalised in the coming days, most likely before Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi's trip to Ukraine

Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 12:01 PM
Ministry of Defence Press Office
@DefenceHQPress
·

United Kingdom government organization
The 🇬🇧 is exploring sending British Challenger 2 Tanks to 🇵🇱

While no decisions have been fully taken, these would be deployed on a short-term basis and operated by UK personnel to bridge bridge the gap between Poland donating tanks to Ukraine and replacements arriving

Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 12:04 PM
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25814
Not much change this weekend, although a high number of vehicles visually destroyed

Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 02:00 PM
A thread on what you were saying about Russias lack of night vision oz

https://mobile.twitter.com/GJstathakis/status/1517848560477167616

Kato
24-04-2022, 02:20 PM
Great article and great post. I wonder if Boris Johnson has learned from his mistakes with Russia as Foreign Secretary? If so, it does put him an ideal position now for knowing how to handle Russia rather than a novice Prime Minister. The thing is, he's lied so many times that nobody could genuinely know and he now has to be removed.

Its a shame that we never learn from our mistakes.

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Would he even see that he made mistakes?

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Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 03:45 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
BREAKING:

The UK will send AS-90 self-propelled Howitzers & 45,000 high-explosive shells to Poland this week.

Ukrainian forces will be taught in Poland how use them before deploying them the front.

The Donbas Battle will be the world’s largest artillery battle since WW2

Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 03:46 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

“#Russia has lost 90% of its best paratroopers,” Bellingcat journalist

Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 03:47 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

It is reported that the Nasdaq exchange will stop working with investors from #Russia from April 29.

Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 03:51 PM
https://m.jpost.com/international/article-704936

Ukraine should not be offered EU membership - Austria foreign minister

Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 03:54 PM
Russia need to do what it wants soon, as its losses are continuing to be huge. A good thread

https://mobile.twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1518150680518836224

Hibrandenburg
24-04-2022, 05:06 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
BREAKING:

The UK will send AS-90 self-propelled Howitzers & 45,000 high-explosive shells to Poland this week.

Ukrainian forces will be taught in Poland how use them before deploying them the front.

The Donbas Battle will be the world’s largest artillery battle since WW2I worked with the AS 90 when it was first issued to the British Army. It's a great piece of kit that can be loaded, aimed and fired remotely.

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cabbageandribs1875
24-04-2022, 05:22 PM
Would he even see that he made mistakes?

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if he did he certainly wouldn't admit to them

cabbageandribs1875
24-04-2022, 06:27 PM
SECURITY RISK
UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is “tempting evil” with his statements about the training of Ukrainian troops abroad amid the conflict with Russia, Polish General Waldemar Skrzypczak, who advises the defense minister, said on Friday.
During a visit to India earlier this week, Johnson told journalists that “we are currently training Ukrainians in Poland in the use of anti-aircraft defense, and actually in the UK in the use of armored vehicles.”
Skrzypczak, who headed one of the multinational divisions in Iraq in the mid-2000s, told Polish newspaper Fakt that “when we were on missions abroad it was hard to imagine that one of the politicians would talk about our plans or training on television.”
By making the comments, Johnson “reveals military secrets” to Russia, the general said. “Training is a military matter and must be kept under wraps. The man should… think before saying such things.”
The former commander of Poland’s land forces called the prime minister’s behavior “extremely irresponsible,” warning that it could lead to “disastrous consequences.”
“The prime minister may not be aware of this, but with such statements he endangers the success of the entire military operation, as well as the safety of soldiers,” Skrzypczak said.


tis not like Johnson to open his irresponsible big fat gub

Ozyhibby
24-04-2022, 06:48 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61210585
No way back for Corbyn.


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Smartie
24-04-2022, 06:48 PM
SECURITY RISK
UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is “tempting evil” with his statements about the training of Ukrainian troops abroad amid the conflict with Russia, Polish General Waldemar Skrzypczak, who advises the defense minister, said on Friday.
During a visit to India earlier this week, Johnson told journalists that “we are currently training Ukrainians in Poland in the use of anti-aircraft defense, and actually in the UK in the use of armored vehicles.”
Skrzypczak, who headed one of the multinational divisions in Iraq in the mid-2000s, told Polish newspaper Fakt that “when we were on missions abroad it was hard to imagine that one of the politicians would talk about our plans or training on television.”
By making the comments, Johnson “reveals military secrets” to Russia, the general said. “Training is a military matter and must be kept under wraps. The man should… think before saying such things.”
The former commander of Poland’s land forces called the prime minister’s behavior “extremely irresponsible,” warning that it could lead to “disastrous consequences.”
“The prime minister may not be aware of this, but with such statements he endangers the success of the entire military operation, as well as the safety of soldiers,” Skrzypczak said.


tis not like Johnson to open his irresponsible big fat gub

I had (perhaps wrongly) assumed that there would have been a careful decision behind letting him blab ie maintaining clarity that these weapons were being used by Ukrainians and not NATO forces?

He’s a numpty but our forces aren’t daft. I’d have expected him to be under instruction re what to say and what not to say.

Stairway 2 7
24-04-2022, 07:05 PM
Jack Detsch
@JackDetsch
·

NEW: Ukraine has repelled numerous Russian assaults on the Donbas line of control and inflicted “significant cost” on invading forces despite ceding some territory: UK Defense Intel

UK assesses poor 🇷🇺 morale & limited time to reorganize for Donbas has limited 🇷🇺 effectiveness

Kato
24-04-2022, 07:29 PM
https://twitter.com/MathiasUlmann/status/1518288493692305408?t=LlwQjZdeiOaoU0kvbdfwxA&s=19

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Glory Lurker
24-04-2022, 08:31 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61210585
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What goes on a leftist's heid when it can have any shred of sympathy for, Gorbachev-era apart, a country that has only ever been fascist?

Ozyhibby
24-04-2022, 08:50 PM
What goes on a leftist's heid when it can have any shred of sympathy for, Gorbachev-era apart, a country that has only ever been fascist?

They are not America. Their enemy’s enemy is their friend.


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superfurryhibby
24-04-2022, 10:14 PM
What goes on a leftist's heid when it can have any shred of sympathy for, Gorbachev-era apart, a country that has only ever been fascist?

“Last week, the former leader suggested Nato be disbanded to "bring peace".
Mr Corbyn - a long-standing critic of the transatlantic military alliance - said while he accepted the group was not going to be scrapped immediately, people should re-examine it after the conflict in Ukraine ends.
He told Times Radio: "Do military alliances bring peace? Or do they actually encourage each other and build up to a greater danger?
"I don't blame Nato for the fact that Russia has invaded Ukraine. What I say is look at the thing historically, and look at the process that could happen at the end of the Ukraine war."

Where’s the sympathy?

He’s been anti Nato for many years, long before the Russian invasion.

Ozyhibby
25-04-2022, 12:16 AM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1518383159829843968?s=21&t=Pamp9jAYHxR2pQMs8e4JiQ

More explosions in Russia.


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hibsbollah
25-04-2022, 06:23 AM
They are not America. Their enemy’s enemy is their friend.


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1.Corbyns already condemned the invasion. And he’s been condemning Putin since way before it was fashionable.
2. Corbyns already spoke favourably of Zelensky, but it wasn’t picked up the media like that, no surprise.
3. Corbyns comment about NATO was in the context of what happens AFTER the war. His comments were about military alliances broadly, do they help or hinder the quest for peace…

You can have different views about that, but it’s not evidence of Russia being his ‘friend’ FFS, you’re not stupid so if you’ve read it so you should know that.

Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 07:18 AM
As much as I like Corbyns social policies, he's beyond nieve with his pacifism only takes. Russia was round Kyiv when he said uk sending weapons is posturing and escalation. He said the only way to stop this is on the negotiation table. What do you do if they lie at the negotiation table and continue to rape and conquer.

Even after crimea he was patronising. Saying only an 8th of crimea is Ukranian and it has belonged to russia many times. In hindsight the majority of dnipro and Mariupol are ethnic Russians, but the are fighting to the death with Russia for there land Ukranian. Also says the patronising Ukranian were manipulated by nato/EU that Zelensky hates

From 2014
https://www.stopwar.org.uk/article/the-history-lurking-behind-the-crisis-in-ukraine-by-jeremy-corbyn-mp/


From last month
There is no solution in Ukraine, which involves a war with Russia. What it involves is getting peace to get the Russian forces out of Ukraine. But an attack on Russia isn’t going to bring about peace. It’s going to bring about a worse situation and another war and more bitterness and hatred and more of the world’s precious resources taken up in manufacturing arms and weapons of mass destruction, rather than dealing with the environmental crisis that everyone face

Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 07:19 AM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1518383159829843968?s=21&t=Pamp9jAYHxR2pQMs8e4JiQ

More explosions in Russia.


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Be good to see what this is

Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 07:54 AM
Be good to see what this is

Conflict News
@Conflicts
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18m
RUSSIA: Large fire at an oil depot in Bryansk this morning. No confirmation of the cause at this time

Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 07:55 AM
Darth Putin
@DarthPutinKGB
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Day 61 of my 3 day war. I lost a dozen generals, French election, a flag ship & more than 20,000 soldiers. It is going according to plan.

I remain a master strategist

Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 08:02 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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The US has announced another $713 million in foreign military financing for Ukraine & 15 allied & partner countries.

$322 million is earmarked for Ukraine will the rest will be split among NATO members & nations that have provided Ukraine with critical military supplies

First round of training for Ukrainian artillery personnel complete

Ozyhibby
25-04-2022, 08:04 AM
As much as I like Corbyns social policies, he's beyond nieve with his pacifism only takes. Russia was round Kyiv when he said uk sending weapons is posturing and escalation. He said the only way to stop this is on the negotiation table. What do you do if they lie at the negotiation table and continue to rape and conquer.

Even after crimea he was patronising. Saying only an 8th of crimea is Ukranian and it has belonged to russia many times. In hindsight the majority of dnipro and Mariupol are ethnic Russians, but the are fighting to the death with Russia for there land Ukranian. Also says the patronising Ukranian were manipulated by nato/EU that Zelensky hates

From 2014
https://www.stopwar.org.uk/article/the-history-lurking-behind-the-crisis-in-ukraine-by-jeremy-corbyn-mp/


From last month
There is no solution in Ukraine, which involves a war with Russia. What it involves is getting peace to get the Russian forces out of Ukraine. But an attack on Russia isn’t going to bring about peace. It’s going to bring about a worse situation and another war and more bitterness and hatred and more of the world’s precious resources taken up in manufacturing arms and weapons of mass destruction, rather than dealing with the environmental crisis that everyone face

Corbyn’s all we need to do is talk to Putin chat shows him up to be nothing more than an idiot. There is no other way of putting it. I’m glad Johnson won in 2019 which makes me sick to say but I can’t reach any other conclusion.


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hibsbollah
25-04-2022, 08:10 AM
As much as I like Corbyns social policies, he's beyond nieve with his pacifism only takes. Russia was round Kyiv when he said uk sending weapons is posturing and escalation. He said the only way to stop this is on the negotiation table. What do you do if they lie at the negotiation table and continue to rape and conquer.

Even after crimea he was patronising. Saying only an 8th of crimea is Ukranian and it has belonged to russia many times. In hindsight the majority of dnipro and Mariupol are ethnic Russians, but the are fighting to the death with Russia for there land Ukranian. Also says the patronising Ukranian were manipulated by nato/EU that Zelensky hates

From 2014
https://www.stopwar.org.uk/article/the-history-lurking-behind-the-crisis-in-ukraine-by-jeremy-corbyn-mp/


From last month
There is no solution in Ukraine, which involves a war with Russia. What it involves is getting peace to get the Russian forces out of Ukraine. But an attack on Russia isn’t going to bring about peace. It’s going to bring about a worse situation and another war and more bitterness and hatred and more of the world’s precious resources taken up in manufacturing arms and weapons of mass destruction, rather than dealing with the environmental crisis that everyone face

It’s crazy to think there is any other solution than a negotiated one. All the one sided tweets saying how well the war is going from Ukraines POV doesn’t change the fact that a conflict with a nuclear power with subs just off the North Sea isn’t exactly advisable :faf: some Kool aid being sipped.

Smartie
25-04-2022, 08:18 AM
It’s crazy to think there is any other solution than a negotiated one. All the one sided tweets saying how well the war is going from Ukraines POV doesn’t change the fact that a conflict with a nuclear power with subs just off the North Sea isn’t exactly advisable :faf: some Kool aid being sipped.

Whilst true, you'd have to expect both sides to do what they can to improve their negotiating position militarily first.

It's not a great situation for anyone when said nuclear power goes invading sovereign nations.

Once that happens you cannot blame the Ukrainians for wanting to defend themselves and their interests.

Whilst I think I agree with Corbyn in general here (it's always hard to get to what he really means as he's badly misrepresented in the media) pacifists do end up looking a tad naive when faced with aggression like Russia's, who tend to prey on their good nature.

Ozyhibby
25-04-2022, 08:19 AM
It’s crazy to think there is any other solution than a negotiated one. All the one sided tweets saying how well the war is going from Ukraines POV doesn’t change the fact that a conflict with a nuclear power with subs just off the North Sea isn’t exactly advisable :faf: some Kool aid being sipped.

There may be some negotiation at some point but you have to fight your way to the negotiating table. If Ukraine had not fought and Putin had made it to Kyiv then how do you think the negotiations would be going? And do you think he would have stopped at Ukraine?
Yes they have nuclear weapons but that does not mean we just lie down and let them do what they like. You still need to defend yourself and your way of life.
Putin would keep going right through Europe if all we were willing to do was talk. So, right now, the best thing to do is fight so hard that when negotiation comes, we are setting the terms.


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Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 08:27 AM
It’s crazy to think there is any other solution than a negotiated one. All the one sided tweets saying how well the war is going from Ukraines POV doesn’t change the fact that a conflict with a nuclear power with subs just off the North Sea isn’t exactly advisable :faf: some Kool aid being sipped.
After Bucha there will be no Ukrainians wanting a deal and to accept Russian invasion of land. They are getting raped and murdered and are pushing back, why would they stop

The OSINT community aren't one side or the other. Bellingcat ect were reporting on Syria and Palestinian incidents years ago.

They reported the Russian initial wins and visually confirmed many Ukrainian losses. They have visually and geolocated over 600 destroyed Russian tanks and over 2000 bits of military equipment. The fact all the Russian documentation showed the expected a one week invasion, but are now sent away from Kyiv.

Only a fool wouldn't except that Russia has had massive losses. The sources are war academics from all over Europe and most importantly OSINT confirmation.

Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 08:31 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/1518248487250718720


Nathan Ruser
@Nrg8000
Putin's War -- Ukraine's Map Briefing -- April 24th
Since April 21:
- Ukraine has recaptured areas surrounding Kharkiv
- Russia has captured villages S of Borova and W of Kreminna & attacked Borivske
- No change in Izyum

The last pic shows April 21st frontlines with dotted lines

Chorley Hibee
25-04-2022, 08:48 AM
Corbyn’s all we need to do is talk to Putin chat shows him up to be nothing more than an idiot. There is no other way of putting it. I’m glad Johnson won in 2019 which makes me sick to say but I can’t reach any other conclusion.


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The same Johnson who's been pocketing Russian cash for years on end?

At least Corbyn is consistent.

Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 09:02 AM
On at 9 tonight on BBC is the film Navalny. It follows bellingcats investigation into the poisoning of Navalny, should be really good

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/apr/23/alexei-navalny-documentary-film

Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 09:03 AM
OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical
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2 locations seem to have been set alight in Bryansk, Russia. A storage yard located at 53.212889, 34.447078, and a Rosneft refinery located at 53.225075, 34.457078

Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 09:06 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1518513753863692288

For a few weeks now, 2,000 soldiers and 1,000 civilians of #Mariupol are fleeing the war at the "#Azovstal" plant.

BILD published a diagram showing how life works on the 6 underground floors of the plant and thanks to which the fighters continue to hold the line.

1️⃣ Above the ground, on the territory of the plant, #Ukrainian tanks and artillery are located.

2️⃣ Snipers hid in buildings near the plant.

3️⃣ Cold War bunker.

4️⃣ Civilians are hiding between the second and fourth floors. Ammunition and food are stored there.

5️⃣The bunker has an autonomous system of electricity and water supply.

6️⃣Tunnels with a total length of 24 km protect the inhabitants of the plant from bombing.

7️⃣ #Ukrainian fighters are based on the lowest underground floor

stu in nottingham
25-04-2022, 09:14 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1518513753863692288

For a few weeks now, 2,000 soldiers and 1,000 civilians of #Mariupol are fleeing the war at the "#Azovstal" plant.

BILD published a diagram showing how life works on the 6 underground floors of the plant and thanks to which the fighters continue to hold the line.

1️⃣ Above the ground, on the territory of the plant, #Ukrainian tanks and artillery are located.

2️⃣ Snipers hid in buildings near the plant.

3️⃣ Cold War bunker.

4️⃣ Civilians are hiding between the second and fourth floors. Ammunition and food are stored there.

5️⃣The bunker has an autonomous system of electricity and water supply.

6️⃣Tunnels with a total length of 24 km protect the inhabitants of the plant from bombing.

7️⃣ #Ukrainian fighters are based on the lowest underground floor

I don't understand why this information would be published. Doesn't seem smart to do so,

Ozyhibby
25-04-2022, 09:25 AM
The same Johnson who's been pocketing Russian cash for years on end?

At least Corbyn is consistent.

I’m fully aware that both choices were terrible in 2019.
Corbyn is consistent the way Dundee have been consistent this season.

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Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 09:27 AM
I don't understand why this information would be published. Doesn't seem smart to do so,

Ukrainian mod and government officer's have been publishing it heavily this week, as well as tons of pictures and videos from inside.

I guess it's two fold. First showing the kids and civilians still in there cranks up pressure on humanitarian corridor and getting weapons.

Secondly Russia was pushing that the city had been captured. So videos of Ukrainian soldiers walking around the complex between buildings proves its not. It also pushes Russia to do something about it to save face. They need a lot of soldiers to guard it, but would lose many if tried to take it.

I think most information that is put out is checked and deliberate

Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 09:30 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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The meeting between the US government and President Zelensky comes ahead of tomorrow’s meeting at the Ramstein Airbase in Germany.

U.S. Defense Secretary has invited allies from 40 countries to agree on a long-term strategy on weapons deliveries for Ukraine

stu in nottingham
25-04-2022, 09:53 AM
Ukrainian mod and government officer's have been publishing it heavily this week, as well as tons of pictures and videos from inside.

I guess it's two fold. First showing the kids and civilians still in there cranks up pressure on humanitarian corridor and getting weapons.

Secondly Russia was pushing that the city had been captured. So videos of Ukrainian soldiers walking around the complex between buildings proves its not. It also pushes Russia to do something about it to save face. They need a lot of soldiers to guard it, but would lose many if tried to take it.

I think most information that is put out is checked and deliberate

Not doubting that it's deliberate. I think Putin and his forces are impervious to humanitarian pressure though as has been shown time after time during the conflict. They simply lie and deny.

Putin has publicly and openly given the order to stand off the building. I don't think Ukrainian soldiers being seen around a restricted area around the plant means that the city hasn't been captured. The home forces reportedly have little ammunition, nor is there much food for them or the civilians apparently. They are basically little more than captive hostages hoping to be rescued in a city that has already been captured or destroyed.

They will have their reasons for releasing this information and I'm no expert but it seems to add risk to me.

Ozyhibby
25-04-2022, 09:58 AM
Not doubting that it's deliberate. I think Putin and his forces are impervious to humanitarian pressure though as has been shown time after time during the conflict. They simply lie and deny.

Putin has publicly and openly given the order to stand off the building. I don't think Ukrainian soldiers being seen around a restricted area around the plant means that the city hasn't been captured. The home forces reportedly have little ammunition, nor is there much food for them or the civilians apparently. They are basically little more than captive hostages hoping to be rescued in a city that has already been captured or destroyed.

They will have their reasons for releasing this information and I'm no expert but it seems to add risk to me.

I think it might be to deter the Russians from coming in? They know they can’t bomb it and would need to send in troops to clear it.
Mariupol is tying up thousands of Russian troops that can’t be redeployed to Donbas so it is of major strategic benefit to Ukraine that they fight to the very last soldier.


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Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 10:05 AM
The azovfol factory in Mariupol is bigger than Venice and Gibraltar, almost as big as lichtenstein. A funny thread here superimposing it over other places, including Edinburgh, it would stretch from the docks to Gorgie.

It is keeping a massive amount of soldiers from the front. I also doubt the food situation. It helicopters were still getting in last week, I'm sure unofficially they have months

https://mobile.twitter.com/ArthurGautama/status/1517853474393935872

stu in nottingham
25-04-2022, 10:21 AM
I read that despite reports of orders to the contrary, Russian troops attempted to storm the plant on Saturday. I'd imagine it's very much about the strategic position of the city rather than mustering more, admittedly useful, Russian canon fodder.

Stairway 2 7
25-04-2022, 01:07 PM
Good wee video of the Ukrainian military map over the last 2 months

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1518575983590268929

@nexta_tv
How the situation with military actions in #Ukraine has changed since February 24, according to the Institute for the Study of War.