Ukraine

[CyberSauzee]

https://twitter.com/StateO***raine/status/1569267894164377600?t=SGCNjJaHDZJ0GVrp_54l3A&s=19

Here's a captured Russian sailor/torpedo operator given a week's worth of training and shipped off to Ukraine.

[Ozyhibby]

How does this end?

Will Putin accept defeat?

Does it last for years?

Or the unthinkable...

I think it ends in a coup. Probably after a collapse in Russian army.


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[Ozyhibby]

Azerbaijan taking advantage of the fact Russia is in no position to intervene this time and has gone to war with Armenia again.
The knock on effects over the next couple of years will be huge. Georgia, Moldova, maybe Belarus could all be next.


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[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/saintjavelin/status/1569455628049063938

saintjavelin
Legendary Ukrainian tractor operator talks about his struggle with the bureaucracy of who gets to keep all those Russian tanks

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1569441437925928965

I thought Russia were meant to demilitarise Ukraine not arm them

[Bristolhibby]

https://twitter.com/StateO***raine/status/1569267894164377600?t=SGCNjJaHDZJ0GVrp_54l3A&s=19

Here's a captured Russian sailor/torpedo operator given a week's worth of training and shipped off to Ukraine.

And now lost his eyes.

Such a waste. As usual it’s the poor facing the brunt of war.

J

[Bristolhibby]

Azerbaijan taking advantage of the fact Russia is in no position to intervene this time and has gone to war with Armenia again.
The knock on effects over the next couple of years will be huge. Georgia, Moldova, maybe Belarus could all be next.


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Georgia and Moldova just taking back some of their own territory no?

Russkies moved into Georgia and declared “independence” in some areas and back the Transnistrian State in Moldova.

Doubt Moldova has the Muscle or appetite mind.

J

[Bristolhibby]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1569441437925928965

I thought Russia were meant to demilitarise Ukraine not arm them

Crazy that they didn’t take a few minutes to blow the ammo.

J

[Stairway 2 7]

Crazy that they didn’t take a few minutes to blow the ammo.

J

Don't think they had the time they were being outflanked. Usually the offensive would slow once the attacker got to far from the line, as would run out of logistics. But Russia has left so much equipment, fuel, trucks and trains that Ukraine is using it and pushing forward

[Ozyhibby]

Georgia and Moldova just taking back some of their own territory no?

Russkies moved into Georgia and declared “independence” in some areas and back the Transnistrian State in Moldova.

Doubt Moldova has the Muscle or appetite mind.

J

There are only 1500 Russian troops in Moldova. Would take much to evict them. Could be a condition of removing sanctions once a Ukraine wins anyway?


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[Stairway 2 7]

Romania would help Moldova if needed. Romania is a noto country also so adds a dimension. Romania also has modern equipment like HIMARS and f16s that would rout Russia.

Azerbaijan is only striking because it knows Russia can't do anything. Worth looking at Georgia and chechnya.

[WhileTheChief..]

Azerbaijan taking advantage of the fact Russia is in no position to intervene this time and has gone to war with Armenia again.
The knock on effects over the next couple of years will be huge. Georgia, Moldova, maybe Belarus could all be next.


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Not only that, I’d expect to see the break up of the Russian federation within the next 5 years. There’s already been talk in Siberia and another couple of regions.

[Bristolhibby]

There are only 1500 Russian troops in Moldova. Would take much to evict them. Could be a condition of removing sanctions once a Ukraine wins anyway?


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Do the Transnistrians (Pridnostrovians) not have a right to self determination?

Or is it just the Catalan route that Moldova have to go down?

They have been de facto independent since the USSR fell.

It’s all moot, because what will happen, will happen.

J

[Stairway 2 7]

Do the Transnistrians (Pridnostrovians) not have a right to self determination?

Or is it just the Catalan route that Moldova have to go down?

They have been de facto independent since the USSR fell.

It’s all moot, because what will happen, will happen.

J
A better example would be comparing Russia to Israel here, conquerers . The majority of them are ethnic Moldovan and Ukrainian. But of course if they need fair open elections which they have never had before. If they wanted to stay separate they should, but it's unlikely

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/kremlintrolls/status/1569606788667826178?s=46&t=b7xz-MbMEW712gg_lwec9w


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1569714866440605699?s=46&t=b7xz-MbMEW712gg_lwec9w

Another energy boss dies suddenly. Putin must be feeling threatened.


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[CyberSauzee]

And now lost his eyes.

Such a waste. As usual it’s the poor facing the brunt of war.

J

That is so sad. You're spot on with what you say, money needed to keep his family in basics we often take for granted.

[WhileTheChief..]

Apparently there's been calls for Putin to resign from 18 different regions, including St Petersburg.

Red Square has been blocked off to prevent crowds from forming.

Putin getting scared maybe.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1569794248769241088?s=46&t=RMQZzwzKeO_-UV-E3NF-wA

Russians want to talk.


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[Kato]

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1569794248769241088?s=46&t=RMQZzwzKeO_-UV-E3NF-wA

Russians want to talk.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIgnore it. Totally untrustworthy until Putin has gone.

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[Kato]

Azerbaijan taking advantage of the fact Russia is in no position to intervene this time and has gone to war with Armenia again.
The knock on effects over the next couple of years will be huge. Georgia, Moldova, maybe Belarus could all be next.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou have to wonder at the geopolitical repercussions too. If Putin is put out of business will the financing of foreign political parties and the troll farms continue. Has to be doubtful.

Thank %*** Trump was ousted but the damage inflicted by Dugins blueprint is massive.


https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1569773878242590721?t=fuYAYagITv-nVTYz6vPyxQ&s=09

https://twitter.com/WriterJackWhite/status/1569797722810585093?t=-PityX55AdbKTY4EMXfg8g&s=19

[Ozyhibby]

Ignore it. Totally untrustworthy until Putin has gone.

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Absolutely. No chance Ukraine negotiate now.


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[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1569870269191229440


Julia Davis
@JuliaDavisNews
"Are We The Baddies?" moment on Russian TV: one pundit—responding to his genocidal colleagues, who assert that Ukrainian nationality and language do not exist—suddenly realizes he is in the company of actual Nazis and says, "This is clear cut nationalism

[Jones28]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1569870269191229440


Julia Davis
@JuliaDavisNews
"Are We The Baddies?" moment on Russian TV: one pundit—responding to his genocidal colleagues, who assert that Ukrainian nationality and language do not exist—suddenly realizes he is in the company of actual Nazis and says, "This is clear cut nationalism

I do enjoy these debates: a bunch of blow hard Russians are debating whether or not a country actually exists while simultaneously getting their ***** handed to them by that same country. 🇺🇦

[Stairway 2 7]

nexta_tv
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#Georgia allows the possibility of a referendum on opening a "second front" against #Russia, stated Irakli #Kobakhidze, head of the ruling #Georgian Dream party.

He promised that the authorities "will act as the people say

[wookie70]

Thanks for all the links on here. I have stayed away from watching too much footage of the war as it is too upsetting. I have started to pay more attention now as it looks like there will be as good an outcome as could be wished for. I'd be pretty much be unaware of the war looking at the BBC iPlayer.

The news I get presented with is a news special that isn't news ie people opinions of what the Queen was. I then get a choice of 24 pieces of programming with the first 21 exclusively Royal, the next the PM paying tribute to the Queen, the next a recorded News Broadcast( first 24 mins Royal, 7 minutes on Ukraine, Economy and death of French Film maker and the last part all Royal too with even the weather giving a mention to the Royals.) and the very last an interview with Zelensky from April.

I get the Royals are a big story but the war in Ukraine is surely the biggest story and given the way it interlinks with the cost of Living Crisis it is the one that we should all be hearing about.

Hard not to feel amazing admiration for Ukrainians and the way they have defended their country.

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220914/ffdec1c98ef786792fbf1d91f537df83.jpg

Zelensky in Izyum today. [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]


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[grunt]

Astonishing, if true.

https://t.co/ShcFxKTKkt

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcjWpxiWQAIYSIl?format=jpg&name=medium

[makaveli1875]

Astonishing, if true.

https://t.co/ShcFxKTKkt

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcjWpxiWQAIYSIl?format=jpg&name=medium

1 of them died in a Jamaican shamans basement , that’s some place to kick the bucket to be fair

[Stairway 2 7]

It was never about nato

@IuliiaMendel
Putin's chief envoy on 🇺🇦told him as the war began that he had struck a provisional deal with Kyiv that would satisfy 🇷🇺's demand that 🇺🇦stay out of NATO, but Putin rejected it & pressed ahead with his military campaign, according to 3 people close to the 🇷🇺leadership-Reuters

There has definitely been some agreement that Ukrainian representative brought from negotiations. I think that putin had not treat the negotiations seriously enough to send there a person who’d he really empower to make the deal

[Stairway 2 7]

Another 5000 getting trained now by UK, Denmark just announced it will start training 2000 more. New recruits Russia can only dream off

@IAPonomarenko
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5,000 Ukrainian troops have completed their training in the United Kingdom.
That’s enough personnel to form a full-fledged brigade

[Bristolhibby]

Another 5000 getting trained now by UK, Denmark just announced it will start training 2000 more. New recruits Russia can only dream off

@IAPonomarenko
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4h
5,000 Ukrainian troops have completed their training in the United Kingdom.
That’s enough personnel to form a full-fledged brigade

Compare the two. Ukraine, highly motivated volunteers, keen as mustard, defending their country. Trained by the highly professional British Army. Western equipment.

Russia - emptying the prisons, press ganging locals from the Donbas, sailors being “transferred” to crew tanks, economic conscripts.

J

[Stairway 2 7]

Compare the two. Ukraine, highly motivated volunteers, keen as mustard, defending their country. Trained by the highly professional British Army. Western equipment.

Russia - emptying the prisons, press ganging locals from the Donbas, sailors being “transferred” to crew tanks, economic conscripts.

J

https://mobile.twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1570098272349421570

Yaroslav Trofimov
@yarotrof
For the first time, a video emerges of a recruitment talk for Wagner by Prigozhin in a Russian prison camp. Absolutely bonkers. “Nobody goes back behind bars. If you serve six months, you are free. If you arrive in Ukraine and decide it’s not for you, we execute you.”

[Paul1642]

https://mobile.twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1570098272349421570

Yaroslav Trofimov
@yarotrof
For the first time, a video emerges of a recruitment talk for Wagner by Prigozhin in a Russian prison camp. Absolutely bonkers. “Nobody goes back behind bars. If you serve six months, you are free. If you arrive in Ukraine and decide it’s not for you, we execute you.”

Desperate measures. Is this open to any prisoner or just those in for lower level offences.

Surely murders, rapists, high end drug dealers and OCG members (on the wrong side of the the government…..) can’t just be let out for a 6 month tour of Ukraine where they will probably become even more messed up, then aloud to return to society.

[Stairway 2 7]

@vtchakarova
Kazakhstan will suspend its membership in Russia-led CSTO (equivalent of China-led SCO) in the beginning of 2023. Kazakhstan didn’t support Russia in its war against Ukraine and did not recognize the annexation of Crimea & the self-proclaimed independence of the Donbas republics

[Stairway 2 7]

Desperate measures. Is this open to any prisoner or just those in for lower level offences.

Surely murders, rapists, high end drug dealers and OCG members (on the wrong side of the the government…..) can’t just be let out for a 6 month tour of Ukraine where they will probably become even more messed up, then aloud to return to society.

https://mobile.twitter.com/maryilyushina/status/1570103416935923714

English translation. He says someone that previously signed up was in for 30 years previously. Says they don't really want drug addicts. Says they need to be careful with sex offenders signing up but he understands accidents happen. Go for 6 months and your pardoned.

Untrained men against highly trained men with more modern weapons straight at the front, they won't stay alive long enough to get the pardon

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happens-to-russia-after-it-loses?source=twitter&via=desktop

What Happens to Russia After It Loses?

[Stairway 2 7]

Sanna Marin is brilliant

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/amp/2022/09/13/we-will-survive-russian-blackmail-and-the-long-winter-but-we-need-unity-sanna-marin-tells-

We will survive Russia's blackmail and the long winter, but we need unity,' Sanna Marin tells MEPs

[Stairway 2 7]

Zelensky speaking to his abuser Russia, we'd rather be without you

@ZelenskyyUa

Without gas or without you?
Without you.
Without light or without you?
Without you.
Without water or without you?
Without you.
Without food or without you?
Without you.
Cold,hunger,darkness and thirst aren't as scary and deadly for us as your "friendship & brotherhood

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/johnsweeneyroar/status/1570455515251019783?s=46&t=OiY7amdLH83MiMHJ8iArNg

I think this is a fair assessment of what happened today between Xi and Putin. I think the Chinese have told them they are not happy at all.


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[Bridge hibs]

https://twitter.com/johnsweeneyroar/status/1570455515251019783?s=46&t=OiY7amdLH83MiMHJ8iArNg

I think this is a fair assessment of what happened today between Xi and Putin. I think the Chinese have told them they are not happy at all.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI dont have twitter Ozy, could you summarise what he is saying. I see him reporting often from Ukraine on morning news

[xyz23jc]

"Hard not to feel amazing admiration for Ukrainians and the way they have defended their country."

Hold that thought! Or to put it anither wiy..... :wink:

[Jim44]

According to the BBC News, ****bag Putin is furious that he has not been invited to the royal funeral. Is he insane?

[Ozyhibby]

According to the BBC News, ****bag Putin is furious that he has not been invited to the royal funeral. Is he insane?

A lot of people think he is.


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[Jim44]

While any sane human being would not have instigated the war in Ukraine in the first place, how can he conceivably believe he could raise his head above the parapet after his criminal behaviour?

[Glory Lurker]

According to the BBC News, ****bag Putin is furious that he has not been invited to the royal funeral. Is he insane?

Did he not say the other day he wasn't coming?

[Ryan91]

Did he not say the other day he wasn't coming?

He did, maybe he's annoyed that they didn't even send him an invite that he could hold up and say he soundly rejects said invitation to the Russian People?

Wonder if Zelenskyy got an invite? Would suspect he'd probably decline, far too busy kicking the invaders out.

[Glory Lurker]

It was in media a week ago that Putin said he wasn't coming. How is this a thing?

[Lendo]

He did, maybe he's annoyed that they didn't even send him an invite that he could hold up and say he soundly rejects said invitation to the Russian People?

Wonder if Zelenskyy got an invite? Would suspect he'd probably decline, far too busy kicking the invaders out.

Im sure he’s got his hands full but it would be good for the Russian public to see the leader of Ukraine in the UK with the rest of the world leaders.

[Ozyhibby]

Im sure he’s got his hands full but it would be good for the Russian public to see the leader of Ukraine in the UK with the rest of the world leaders.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see it but I doubt he will leave Ukraine till the last Russian has been forced out or killed.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/mjluxmoore/status/1570732420063981571?s=46&t=0R_j_u1UkRsZUP8Tw9_sgQ

Collaborators and Russian officials are having a bad day.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Horrible scenes from izyum it would be an injustice if these monsters don't see the hugue

https://mobile.twitter.com/TimothyDSnyder/status/1570800467462201356

@TimothyDSnyder
Yale

As Ukraine re-establishes control over de-occupied territories, authorities once again have to chronicle Russian atrocities: torture facilities (everywhere), mass graves (Izyum), the absence of men (Horlivka). Russia’s war was genocidal in conception and is genocidal in practice

[Stairway 2 7]

International team have arrived to document, although with Russia having a veto at UN it will just be strong words

https://mobile.twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1570769770097647617

markmackinnon
Horrific scenes in Izyum today. Some 445 people buried in this forest, all of whom died during six-month Russian occupation of the city. Another 17 Ukrainian soldiers were executed and dumped together in a single pit. Prosecutors say there’s evidence the soldiers were tortured

[Lendo]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see it but I doubt he will leave Ukraine till the last Russian has been forced out or killed.


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Been confirmed his wife will be attending on Ukraine’s behalf.

[Bridge hibs]

International team have arrived to document, although with Russia having a veto at UN it will just be strong words

https://mobile.twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1570769770097647617

markmackinnon
Horrific scenes in Izyum today. Some 445 people buried in this forest, all of whom died during six-month Russian occupation of the city. Another 17 Ukrainian soldiers were executed and dumped together in a single pit. Prosecutors say there’s evidence the soldiers were tortured

****ing tragically sickening, **** all will happen to that evil ****er Putin and thats the saddest thing. He needs strung up in that forest by the balls 🤬

[Jones28]

International team have arrived to document, although with Russia having a veto at UN it will just be strong words

https://mobile.twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1570769770097647617

markmackinnon
Horrific scenes in Izyum today. Some 445 people buried in this forest, all of whom died during six-month Russian occupation of the city. Another 17 Ukrainian soldiers were executed and dumped together in a single pit. Prosecutors say there’s evidence the soldiers were tortured

Surely the UN will revisit the idea of Russia having any sort of power over world affairs after all this is over with?

You can’t keep a country that has committed genocide in such a position of influence.

[Bridge hibs]

Surely the UN will revisit the idea of Russia having any sort of power over world affairs after all this is over with?

You can’t keep a country that has committed genocide in such a position of influence.What can the other powers do though ? They cant go walking into Moscow or wherever the maniac Putin is staying, he isnt going to walk out with his hands up and he knows he is pretty much untouchable, he also has powerful allies who would be his mouthpieces too

We can only hope he dies a quick death or his own people turn on him, even that possibility looks remote, sadly. Hope Im wrong and he gets whats coming to him, the sooner the better

[WhileTheChief..]

Now up to 70 Russian politicians calling on Putin to resign.

It was 18 last week. Hopefully these numbers keep increasing and the dissenting voices in Russia get louder.

[Ozyhibby]

What can the other powers do though ? They cant go walking into Moscow or wherever the maniac Putin is staying, he isnt going to walk out with his hands up and he knows he is pretty much untouchable, he also has powerful allies who would be his mouthpieces too

We can only hope he dies a quick death or his own people turn on him, even that possibility looks remote, sadly. Hope Im wrong and he gets whats coming to him, the sooner the better

They can make re-entry back into the global trading system conditional on certain things?


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[makaveli1875]

Now up to 70 Russian politicians calling on Putin to resign.

It was 18 last week. Hopefully these numbers keep increasing and the dissenting voices in Russia get louder.

I suspect that will be 70 more folk falling out of windows in Russia sometime soon .

[Bridge hibs]

They can make re-entry back into the global trading system conditional on certain things?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAre Putin, his cohorts and the Russian people concerned about their economy or trading system ? If so they certainly dont appear to be showing it. Dissenters just seem to get chucked into the gulag or mysteriously fall out of windows

Putin clearly doesnt seem perturbed as he appears to still have the begging bowl out to his pals in China and Korea for weapons so he isnt going anywhere soon it seems

[Jones28]

What can the other powers do though ? They cant go walking into Moscow or wherever the maniac Putin is staying, he isnt going to walk out with his hands up and he knows he is pretty much untouchable, he also has powerful allies who would be his mouthpieces too

We can only hope he dies a quick death or his own people turn on him, even that possibility looks remote, sadly. Hope Im wrong and he gets whats coming to him, the sooner the better

They could remove their veto until conditions are met. I don’t know the ins and outs but there can surely be some exceptions made for countries that are committing genocide?

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Are Putin, his cohorts and the Russian people concerned about their economy or trading system ? If so they certainly dont appear to be showing it. Dissenters just seem to get chucked into the gulag or mysteriously fall out of windows

Putin clearly doesnt seem perturbed as he appears to still have the begging bowl out to his pals in China and Korea for weapons so he isnt going anywhere soon it seems

At the moment sanctions haven't really affected ordinary Russians, here's a youtube bloggers recent experience when shopping for food and his thoughts on sanctions.

This guy is not openly critical of Putin as he is still in Russia but he is part of the mainly exiled blogging community that is most definitely anti Putin/war.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RqvsqnR1wnY

[Bridge hibs]

At the moment sanctions haven't really affected ordinary Russians, here's a youtube bloggers recent experience when shopping for food and his thoughts on sanctions.

This guy is not openly critical of Putin as he is still in Russia but he is part of the mainly exiled blogging community that is most definitely anti Putin/war.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RqvsqnR1wnYI know the UK is a mere dot in comparison to Russia but I could Imagine there would be absolute riots if that happened here, our government would be routed and strung from lamp posts. That just shows what we and the world are up against sadly

[Hibs4185]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1570891498249670656

You have to admire their wit! Class

[Renfrew_Hibby]

I know the UK is a mere dot in comparison to Russia but I could Imagine there would be absolute riots if that happened here, our government would be routed and strung from lamp posts. That just shows what we and the world are up against sadly

What we don't realise is that compared to the 1990s, life is still good in Russia, most are prepared to put up with a dictator compared to a time when they had a bit more democracy but when the standard/quality of life fell through the floor.

[Ozyhibby]

What we don't realise is that compared to the 1990s, life is still good in Russia, most are prepared to put up with a dictator compared to a time when they had a bit more democracy but when the standard/quality of life fell through the floor.

It will fall soon enough though and that’s when the problems will really begin.


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[Bridge hibs]

It will fall soon enough though and that’s when the problems will really begin.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe Beeb ticker has said that Putin wont give up on his plans for Ukraine, Biden has just warned him not to use chemical or tactical nukes. Putin is a ****ing desperate madman and he seems relentless. What would be Nato’s or Bidens plans should he go ahead, more sanctions ?

Putin has the world wrapped around his little finger

[Ozyhibby]

The Beeb ticker has said that Putin wont give up on his plans for Ukraine, Biden has just warned him not to use chemical or tactical nukes. Putin is a ****ing desperate madman and he seems relentless. What would be Nato’s or Bidens plans should he go ahead, more sanctions ?

Putin has the world wrapped around his little finger

What is holding him back from mobilisation?
What does he gain from using nuclear weapons?


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[tamig]

What is holding him back from mobilisation?
What does he gain from using nuclear weapons?


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Any nukes launched will also affect people in Russia. Not that that’s bothered the **** before.

[Bridge hibs]

What is holding him back from mobilisation?
What does he gain from using nuclear weapons?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIf he starts hitting the front lines with chemical or nukes then he will continue to commit mass murders at the same time as grabbing land. He has repeatedly shown he cares not a jot about the Ukranians nor indeed his very own people. He is sending his soldiers into battle and with a lot of them young with inadequate equipment, thats how much he cares

Putin is not going to let Ukraine take back their land without reprisals and at what level. Sanctions wont mean a jot to that maniac. We can only hope his Chinese pal has knocked some sense into him but I doubt it

[Ozyhibby]

If he starts hitting the front lines with chemical or nukes then he will continue to commit mass murders at the same time as grabbing land. He has repeatedly shown he cares not a jot about the Ukranians nor indeed his very own people. He is sending his soldiers into battle and with a lot of them young with inadequate equipment, thats how much he cares

Putin is not going to let Ukraine take back their land without reprisals and at what level. Sanctions wont mean a jot to that maniac. We can only hope his Chinese pal has knocked some sense into him but I doubt it

Chemical weapons are pretty useless which is why it was so easy to get everyone to agree to ban them.

What’s stopping him from doing it now then, if it’s as easy as you say? Drop a nuke on Kyiv, Ukraine surrenders, job done? He could have done that already, so what’s stopping him?


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[Bridge hibs]

Chemical weapons are pretty useless which is why it was so easy to get everyone to agree to ban them.

What’s stopping him from doing it now then, if it’s as easy as you say? Drop a nuke on Kyiv, Ukraine surrenders, job done? He could have done that already, so what’s stopping him?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIm not inside his head mate but he has already demonstrated he is capable of doing anything. Did he not prime his nukes in February as well as parading his Satan 11, whether posturing or not he made the world a lot twitchier and it remains so



I dont know mate, but as long as he is breathing he is a threat

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/faytuks/status/1571202865372209155?s=46&t=ef8_QaLgKipwechD5nGG2Q

Big firefight going on in the centre of Kherson city.


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[DaveF]

https://twitter.com/faytuks/status/1571202865372209155?s=46&t=ef8_QaLgKipwechD5nGG2Q

Big firefight going on in the centre of Kherson city.


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Looks like a suicide mission, given whatever group it is don't appear to have any hope of backup or escape.

[Stairway 2 7]

Im not inside his head mate but he has already demonstrated he is capable of doing anything. Did he not prime his nukes in February as well as parading his Satan 11, whether posturing or not he made the world a lot twitchier and it remains so



I dont know mate, but as long as he is breathing he is a threat

To be fair you've been saying the same about him firing nukes since Feb as have many. It would take about 200 people in the chain of command apparently for them to get them fired. Many of those people have families and don't want the end of the world. I doubt even Putin wants that.

They said if the west sends heavy weapons we will escalate, they didn't, they said the same about fighter jets being sent and nothing, the same with tanks and Poland sent 300, US sent HIMARS that are blootering them and nothing.

They have just lost 8000km in a week nowt.

Putin isn't going to walk or be overthrown but Ukraine doesn't care about that, they want Russia off its soil

The tide is turning Russia is getting weaker every day. They can't resupply their heavy weapons due to sanctions. Their mountains of heavy artillery is running out, no first rate army needs to ask north Korea lol. China told them to bolt for weapons and criticised the war this week again.

Ukraine are getting stronger every day more western weapons, Russian acquired weapons, good trained soldiers coming online.

Russia has lost about 40% of its military personnel its estimated. Their economy is expected to nose dive further than after the Soviet Union fell, it will soon be smaller than Belgiums. Tens of thousands of Russians with degrees have jumped ship this year, its population is expected to half in the next 60 years. This is the death throws of a superpower

[Stairway 2 7]

@KareemRifai
'NO' votes on UN motion to allow Zelensky to address the General Assembly by video:

Belarus
Cuba
North Korea
Eritrea
Nicaragua
Russia
Syria

[Bridge hibs]

To be fair you've been saying the same about him firing nukes since Feb as have many. It would take about 200 people in the chain of command apparently for them to get them fired. Many of those people have families and don't want the end of the world. I doubt even Putin wants that.

They said if the west sends heavy weapons we will escalate, they didn't, they said the same about fighter jets being sent and nothing, the same with tanks and Poland sent 300, US sent HIMARS that are blootering them and nothing.

They have just lost 8000km in a week nowt.

Putin isn't going to walk or be overthrown but Ukraine doesn't care about that, they want Russia off its soil

The tide is turning Russia is getting weaker every day. They can't resupply their heavy weapons due to sanctions. Their mountains of heavy artillery is running out, no first rate army needs to ask north Korea lol. China told them to bolt for weapons and criticised the war this week again.

Ukraine are getting stronger every day more western weapons, Russian acquired weapons, good trained soldiers coming online.

Russia has lost about 40% of its military personnel its estimated. Their economy is expected to nose dive further than after the Soviet Union fell, it will soon be smaller than Belgiums. Tens of thousands of Russians with degrees have jumped ship this year, its population is expected to half in the next 60 years. This is the death throws of a superpowerYou are right mate I have been going on about it since Feb but thats just the way I feel about things, my life is stressful and I have a lot of things going on. I enjoy your and Ozys updates as sometimes I feel there is a chink of light and something positive happening but other times when I see that horrible ***** face it just turns it on its head again. Im probably not the only one on here who thinks that to be fair, but Im probably a bit more vocal

Thanks though for your updates, I do appreciate them, even if I cant change my train of thought it is reassuring to read 👍

[Stairway 2 7]

You are right mate I have been going on about it since Feb but thats just the way I feel about things, my life is stressful and I have a lot of things going on. I enjoy your and Ozys updates as sometimes I feel there is a chink of light and something positive happening but other times when I see that horrible ***** face it just turns it on its head again. Im probably not the only one on here who thinks that to be fair, but Im probably a bit more vocal

Thanks though for your updates, I do appreciate them, even if I cant change my train of thought it is reassuring to read 👍

I just see him getting it down the chain of command, plus that is the end as soon as he does. Ukraine has changed the war with 20 HIMARS the US has 500, fighter jets that are a different world to the crap Russia and Ukraine are using. Russia will face the full force if they go nuclear.

I think Ukraine are going to win in getting back their land. But it won't be a win when the horrors are unearthed from each liberated town. There is no good in war unfortunately. But I think the news on liberating land will be increasing positive as the months go. Chin up brother. Putin lives on machismo and he's getting leathered by Ukraine right now and it'll be hurting the horrible gimp I'm sure

[Glory Lurker]

@KareemRifai
'NO' votes on UN motion to allow Zelensky to address the General Assembly by video:

Belarus
Cuba
North Korea
Eritrea
Nicaragua
Russia
Syria

Cuba's true colours right there.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/chriso_wiki/status/1571255027775291392?s=46&t=ef8_QaLgKipwechD5nGG2Q

Long but interesting thread on Russian army failures.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1571156059598864386?s=46&t=o9p5Aj3VDPtYIIWskp1AAA

These will be like a badge of honour in years to come for these Russian soldiers.


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[Ozyhibby]

Looks like a suicide mission, given whatever group it is don't appear to have any hope of backup or escape.

Chat seems to be that it was Russian v Russian battles.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1571471261657702401?s=46&t=o9p5Aj3VDPtYIIWskp1AAA
America ready to step in and support Armenia if it ditches its alliance with Russia. Pe Lodi there just now and people out on the street waving US flags.


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[judas]

Russia will not use nukes.

They would lose Chinese support.

[Stairway 2 7]

Eastern European politicians consistently have shown the western European politicians for the charlatans they are.

GLandsbergis
Lithuania mofa
Words failed to prevent mass graves. Condemnation alone won't bring this genocide to an end. Tanks speak louder than words. #ArmUkraineNow means now

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1571557162504974336


NEXTA
@nexta_tv
❗️Warning, shocking content

Horrible atrocities committed by #Russians are revealed during the exhumation of bodies from a mass grave in #Izium.

A man's body with his scrotum cut off and bodies with hands tied behind back were found. People were tortured to death.#iziummassacre

[Stairway 2 7]

F16s would absolutely destroy every Russian fighter jet without losing one of their own. Patriots would shoot down almost all Russian missles, fingers crossed

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1571554645981306880

nexta_tv
Ukraine and the U.S. are negotiating the supply of "Patriot" systems and F-16 fighter jets

It is reported that such negotiations are closed and are conducted by representatives of the President of #Ukraine and the #USA.

📰Politico citing its own sources

[Glory Lurker]

Russia will not use nukes.

They would lose Chinese support.

I disagree. China's best interests are that Russia and thecwest are mired down as long as possible. They won't give a monkey's if Russia goes for it.

[Glory Lurker]

Eastern European politicians consistently have shown the western European politicians for the charlatans they are.

GLandsbergis
Lithuania mofa
Words failed to prevent mass graves. Condemnation alone won't bring this genocide to an end. Tanks speak louder than words. #ArmUkraineNow means now

Not the Hungarians though.

[Stairway 2 7]

Not the Hungarians though.

Orbon has sold out russia a number of times already this war, he would sell out anyone tbf. An odious man, who thankfully is very insignificant. Think Hungary calls itself central Europe but many call it east

[Stairway 2 7]

China hasn't supported Russia in anyway really. No weapons or military aid, its companies have pulled out of Russia, baring the purchase of components for weapons. It has bought commodities for knock down prices

https://www.ft.com/content/48301890-c8b2-4ed9-b977-b28d52d51f02

West sees Xi and Modi critique of Putin as shift in view of Ukraine war
Exchanges with counterparts from China and India mark the most public recognition of Asian disquiet over Ukraine war

[Stairway 2 7]

I think this is far more likely than a nuke, blaming Ukraine for hitting the nuclear power plant in the future

https://mobile.twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1571744180300353543

Osinttechnical
Ukrainian state power company Energoatom- Russian forces struck the South Ukraine Nuclear Power Plant early today

[Stairway 2 7]

@nexta_tv
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3h
#Estonia, #Latvia, #Lithuania and #Poland closed entry for #Russian citizens from September 19.

[Ozyhibby]

I disagree. China's best interests are that Russia and thecwest are mired down as long as possible. They won't give a monkey's if Russia goes for it.

You think China won’t be affected by a nuclear war?


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[Stairway 2 7]

Armenia has realised Russia won't be able to help so is calling on the US. Russia losing power outside its borders

https://mobile.twitter.com/Biz_Ukraine_Mag/status/1571480298604613632

@Biz_Ukraine_Mag
Putin billboards removed, American flags everywhere: sign of the times in Yerevan as Armenia adjusts to the new geopolitical realities amid Russia’s catastrophic Ukraine invasion

[Ozyhibby]

Armenia has realised Russia won't be able to help so is calling on the US. Russia losing power outside its borders

https://mobile.twitter.com/Biz_Ukraine_Mag/status/1571480298604613632

@Biz_Ukraine_Mag
Putin billboards removed, American flags everywhere: sign of the times in Yerevan as Armenia adjusts to the new geopolitical realities amid Russia’s catastrophic Ukraine invasion

Hopefully the US help them out. It would be a significant blow to Putin and Armenia is a democracy which is under attack from a horrible regime in Azerbaijan.


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[WhileTheChief..]

Russian could barely maintain their trucks or tanks.

Every single aspect of their military has suffered the consequences of corruption. Their nuclear program will be the same. I very much doubt they have spent the money to maintain it or train people properly with it.

It's just Russia bumping its gum, it's all they've got left to do.

Besides, dropping a tactical nuke anywhere in Ukraine isn't going to make them surrender, it would mean Nato rolling into Red Square.

As mentioned earlier, this is the beginning of the end of the Russian Federation as we know it.

[CyberSauzee]

One of the graves from Izyum identified. So sad

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1571966294403997698?t=MlUqUKSIaNhaCelwtgTfNA&s=19

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572097850053386240


NEXTA
@nexta_tv
#Erdogan said that #Russia and #Ukraine had agreed to exchange 200 prisoners.

He also declared that #Putin wants to end the war, but is not going to make territorial concessions, so it is too early to talk about negotiations

[Stairway 2 7]

Lyman looks close to being to being surrounded, huge number of Russians might be forced to abandon soon or fight.

https://mobile.twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1571974705112031232
wartranslated
Russian WarGonzo reports that Lyman, which has been under 'siege' for about two weeks now, is currently being attacked from two sides. Cites words of the "defenders": "We have losses

[BS44]

Ukrainian forces take village in Luhansk, Russia can no longer claim that they havr full control of this area

[Renfrew_Hibby]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dgOB0BaQqzs

[Smartie]

Putin and Shoigu to appear and make a statement this evening.

[Stairway 2 7]

Putin will do an address to the nation for the first time since he announced a special military operation.

He's expected to announce a referendum on luhansk, donetsk, Kherson and zaporizhzhia becoming a part of Russia. Vote will be by mail or Internet only, which is weird as the mail isn't running in most of the areas, a lot of the area doesn't have electricity or Internet. I expect close to 99% for separation as Putin is a bafoon and a believable win like 70/30 won't do him.

He's also thought to be considering mobilisation. This was always going to be a last resort. One it won't make much of a difference militarily, but more it will cause huge internal anger. People in Russia were happy enough when it was enlisted soldiers dying, especially as most were from far off areas. They are running out of young men in these areas, so the war could move to Moscow and St petersberg ect. There was always a fear this would be too far for the Russian public.

He'll probably have the elections first they will all be unanimous. Then when Ukraine attacks the annexed land they will say Russia is getting attacked with nato weapons.

[Stairway 2 7]

Some interesting threads on the events

RALee85
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28m
Even if Russia mobilizes (I think deploying currently serving conscripts is more likely), almost all of these factors still favor Ukraine, including over the medium to long-term. A large number of poorly trained and motivated soldiers isn't a huge advantage

Ukraine has an advantage in:
-manpower
-learning lessons
-interior lines
-command and control/leadership
-clearer strategic goals
-precision fires
-morale
-ability to strike behind Russian lines (partisans)
-training volunteers
Many of these will grow over time

https://mobile.twitter.com/baunov/status/1572225020210089985
Alexander Baunov
@baunov
THREAD 1/9 Today, with no warning, amendments to Russian law were introduced to the Duma & immediately passed in 3 readings. They bring Russia much closer to full mobilization & stipulate harsh penalties for failing to report for military duty, surrendering, or refusal to fight

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThreshedThought/status/1572236794535493632
Dr Mike Martin 🔶
@ThreshedThought
Russian mobilisation.

A thread

Chill everyone

Mobilisation in Russia doesn’t solve them anything.

It takes months and months to turn civilians into soldiers

Russia needs soldiers yesterday not in six months

It also doesn’t solve their equipment problems

Nor their logistic problems

Nor the fact that their command structure is sclerotic and can’t make decisions. Nor integrate intelligence into operations

The move is designed for domestic consumption in Russia.

Putin is taking some heat from his right flank for the recent rout of the Russian military.

The head bangers have been calling for a national mobilisation … and so here ‘it’ is

This of course won’t stop the western media whipping themselves up into a frenzy over it!

[Ozyhibby]

https://samf.substack.com/p/going-nuclear?utm_source=twitter&sd=pf

Good article to read if anyone is worried that Russia will use nuclear weapons.


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[Glory Lurker]

Really need China to put the brakes on these nutters, but I can't see that happening.

[Stairway 2 7]

Really need China to put the brakes on these nutters, but I can't see that happening.

China did as much as we could ask, at least as much as could be expected as they were always going to have self interest. They didn't support the war, refused military help, sanctioned parts that could be used in military equipment. Russia is going to keep going until its stopped regardless. Ukraine will stop them

[Glory Lurker]

China did as much as we could ask, at least as much as could be expected as they were always going to have self interest. They didn't support the war, refused military help, sanctioned parts that could be used in military equipment. Russia is going to keep going until its stopped regardless. Ukraine will stop them

I hope you're right, but it's looking pretty clear that Putin is going to up the ante quite frighteningly very soon

[Stairway 2 7]

I hope you're right, but it's looking pretty clear that Putin is going to up the ante quite frighteningly very soon

That's been said about once a week since February. If he could he would have by now. He's lost half his military, Ukraine bomb Russian cites and they have lost thousands of miles in a week

[cabbageandribs1875]

i could never imagine a female talking about using nukes, apart from kim jong un's sister etc, what a repugnant human being Olga is :agree:

Putin ‘should have nuked Queen’s funeral’ Russian TV pundit says (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-e2-80-98should-have-nuked-queen-e2-80-99s-funeral-e2-80-99-russian-tv-pundit-says/ar-AA122QTw)

https://www.hibs.net/image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAABCAQAAAC 1HAwCAAAAC0lEQVR42mNkYAAAAAYAAjCB0C8AAAAASUVORK5CY II=



this is her from April this year Who Is Olga Skabeyeva, Russian Propagandist Who Made WWIII Remark (insider.com) (https://www.insider.com/olga-skabeyeva-russian-propagandist-putin-ukraine-war-rhetoric-shift-2022-4)

what a very dangerous individual

[Stairway 2 7]

A mix of fear of mobilisation and the imminent fall of lyman

squatsons
·
3h
The Russian stock market fell in the main session on Tuesday by 8.84%, the maximum since February 24 - data from the Moscow Exchange.

This is a sign that something is about to happen

[Stairway 2 7]

Made a big announcement about having a speech tonight then cancel as lyman falls

visegrad24
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27m
BREAKING:

There was speculation that Putin would announce full mobilization in his speech tonight.

That speech has now been postponed to another date and time

[Stairway 2 7]

Shashank Joshi
@shashj
Nothing says free & fair referendum like announcing it on three days' notice, a week after your front lines to the north have collapsed & while the country you stole the territory from is literally advancing into the area where the referendum is to be held https://kommersant.ru/doc/5571075?from=top_main_1


nexta_tv
·
3h
Erdogan said that #Turkey will never recognize the results of the referendums

[Ozyhibby]

Made a big announcement about having a speech tonight then cancel as lyman falls

visegrad24
·
27m
BREAKING:

There was speculation that Putin would announce full mobilization in his speech tonight.

That speech has now been postponed to another date and time

I think he is looking weaker everyday. I don’t think he’ll do a full mobilisation tomorrow. I think the will be some half measures but he won’t go the full way. He would have to close Russia’s borders to all males. I think his power is waning.


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[Stairway 2 7]

@visegrad24
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Talking to the press at the UN, Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said that Crimea must be returned its “rightful owners,”.



He added that he has been saying this to Putin since 2014

[Stairway 2 7]

Probably the reason for the delay for the speech from last night to this morning, Russia doesn’t fully mobilize

@ragipsoylu
·
2m
BREAKING: Putin declares partial mobilization, the decree has been signed.

“Only citizens who are currently in the reserve and, above all, those who served in the Armed Forces, have certain military specialties and relevant experience, will be subject to conscription

[Ozyhibby]

Probably the reason for the delay for the speech from last night to this morning, Russia doesn’t fully mobilize

@ragipsoylu
·
2m
BREAKING: Putin declares partial mobilization, the decree has been signed.

“Only citizens who are currently in the reserve and, above all, those who served in the Armed Forces, have certain military specialties and relevant experience, will be subject to conscription

Another sign of his weakness. He’s afraid of the backlash that mobilisation will bring.
Militarily this won’t make much if any difference. Neither would a full mobilisation. All it does is make the Kremlin admit they are struggling.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1572467206339919875?s=46&t=Sznk6VZrS_YJBXPPn_UQRw

Do you think those old phones beside him still work in 2022?


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[Bridge hibs]

So what does this mobilisation or partial mobilisation mean in the context of this ‘special operation’ ?

[LunasBoots]

Probably the reason for the delay for the speech from last night to this morning, Russia doesn’t fully mobilize

@ragipsoylu
·
2m
BREAKING: Putin declares partial mobilization, the decree has been signed.

“Only citizens who are currently in the reserve and, above all, those who served in the Armed Forces, have certain military specialties and relevant experience, will be subject to conscription


With winter coming in its certainly going to be a hard one for both sides especially Ukraine I'd imagine.

I also don't believe him if I'm honest, he'll have any old civilians on the front line, guy doesn't care about human life

[Stairway 2 7]

So what does this mobilisation or partial mobilisation mean in the context of this ‘special operation’ ?

This partial mobilization means every man that has had military training can be told they are signing up. Not sure how many troops that will add. They have chose not to sign up so many won't be happy to be told they are leaving their jobs and going to Ukraine.

Still won't sort the fact they have poor logistics and are running out of equipment for the soldiers they have.

Full mobilization would have meant 8 million civilian available. They wouldn't be able to equip or train a fraction of that though. Training would take 6 months, although Putin might just put them in the meat grinder. Would be hard politically because some Russians might be pro war, but not when they will be told to go to the front themselves

[Smartie]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572485557590032384?cxt=HHwWgICwqZDSy9IrAAAA

It'll be interesting to see if much comes of this.

[Bridge hibs]

This partial mobilization means every man that has had military training can be told they are signing up. Not sure how many troops that will add. They have chose not to sign up so many won't be happy to be told they are leaving their jobs and going to Ukraine.

Still won't sort the fact they have poor logistics and are running out of equipment for the soldiers they have.

Full mobilization would have meant 8 million civilian available. They wouldn't be able to equip or train a fraction of that though. Training would take 6 months, although Putin might just put them in the meat grinder. Would be hard politically because some Russians might be pro war, but not when they will be told to go to the front themselvesScary stuff, not having a choice but to, as you say, to get put through the meat grinder. The ***** bag should strap on a gun and head to the front line himself 🤬

[Ozyhibby]

This partial mobilization means every man that has had military training can be told they are signing up. Not sure how many troops that will add. They have chose not to sign up so many won't be happy to be told they are leaving their jobs and going to Ukraine.

Still won't sort the fact they have poor logistics and are running out of equipment for the soldiers they have.

Full mobilization would have meant 8 million civilian available. They wouldn't be able to equip or train a fraction of that though. Training would take 6 months, although Putin might just put them in the meat grinder. Would be hard politically because some Russians might be pro war, but not when they will be told to go to the front themselves

It is said to have the potential to add 300k men but I doubt they get close to that. These are people who don’t want to go and have resisted all the financial inducements so far. Just rounding half of them up will require a significant force. Many will move abroad, refuse and go to jail or claim some other form exemption. It would be next spring before any are ready for deployment (unless the just send them to die quickly) and they don’t have enough weapons for them.
This announcement has shown more weakness in Putin than many thought.


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[LunasBoots]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572485557590032384?cxt=HHwWgICwqZDSy9IrAAAA

It'll be interesting to see if much comes of this.

Be interesting to see but for me people in Russia are just to scared to do anything in any real numbers.

[Smartie]

Be interesting to see but for me people in Russia are just to scared to do anything in any real numbers.

I tend to agree but it's the sort of thing that could gather momentum, that people might feel a bit more able to express their true feelings if they saw others doing so and getting away with it.

[Smartie]

It is said to have the potential to add 300k men but I doubt they get close to that. These are people who don’t want to go and have resisted all the financial inducements so far. Just rounding half of them up will require a significant force. Many will move abroad, refuse and go to jail or claim some other form exemption. It would be next spring before any are ready for deployment (unless the just send them to die quickly) and they don’t have enough weapons for them.
This announcement has shown more weakness in Putin than many thought.


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The mobilisation is neither here nor there imo.

The interesting / sinister bit is the referendum / annexation / threatening folk with what they might do once those areas become theirs.

It was a situation that was almost inevitable from day one though and I'd be amazed if any of this has come of any surprise to anyone who has any clout on the side of Ukraine or the West.

[Ozyhibby]

The mobilisation is neither here nor there imo.

The interesting / sinister bit is the referendum / annexation / threatening folk with what they might do once those areas become theirs.

It was a situation that was almost inevitable from day one though and I'd be amazed if any of this has come of any surprise to anyone who has any clout on the side of Ukraine or the West.

I doubt the fake referendum will make the slightest bit of difference on the ground. It won’t change a single military plan of the Ukrainians. And no international body will ever recognise the results.
And threats from Russian have proven empty so far. Putin has been shown not to have the full control people thought he had.


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[Ozyhibby]

Be interesting to see but for me people in Russia are just to scared to do anything in any real numbers.

Violence breaking out in Iran just now although not sure how far it will go. The difference between the two countries though is the age of the population. Iran is one of the youngest countries in the world where as Russia is full of old people. Young smart Russians regularly move to Europe but that is not an options for Iranians. Young Iranians are stuck there with very poor prospects. They are more likely to fight for change.


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[Smartie]

Violence breaking out in Iran just now although not sure how far it will go. The difference between the two countries though is the age of the population. Iran is one of the youngest countries in the world where as Russia is full of old people. Young smart Russians regularly move to Europe but that is not an options for Iranians. Young Iranians are stuck there with very poor prospects. They are more likely to fight for change.


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The biggest problem for Russia here is that more of the younger ones with prospects who have stuck around see the writing on the wall and flee now (after so many having already fled).

There had been talk of closing the borders to men of fighting age, that may be the next step.

As big a country as Russia is, by the time they end up whittled down to those who are in favour of the war, very few of them will actually be able to make a positive contribution to the war effort either militarily or economically.

The biggest threat to the West is the hellish position that Putin seems intent on backing himself into, and a cornered rat can be a dangerous animal.

[Paul1642]

Putin is living in the past if he thinks that numbers alone are going to make a difference. Poorly motivated, poorly trained and badly equipped soldiers are worth less on the battlefield today than at any other time in history.

[Stairway 2 7]

SamRamani2
Russian media is warning that participants in "illegal rallies" will be subjected to military conscription

This new means of deterring anti government dissent is detailed here. All participants in these rallies will be referred to Russia’s Internal Affairs Ministry after detention and drafted
t.me

[Ozyhibby]

SamRamani2
Russian media is warning that participants in "illegal rallies" will be subjected to military conscription

This new means of deterring anti government dissent is detailed here. All participants in these rallies will be referred to Russia’s Internal Affairs Ministry after detention and drafted
t.me

You have to wonder when the Russian people will start to fight back?


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[Renfrew_Hibby]

Are you ready to die?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GinidKAV5PA

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.airlive.net/breaking-russian-airlines-ordered-to-stop-selling-tickets-to-russian-men-aged-18-to-65/amp/

BREAKING Russian airlines ordered to stop selling tickets to Russian men aged 18 to 65

Flights abroad sell out following Putin’s partial mobilization

[Paul1642]

The longer this goes on the more certain I am that Russia will collapse from within.

Ukraine don’t need to take back all their lost territory, just keep the Russians on the back foot long enough for it to happen.

It’s one thing for the Russian public to put up with or even support a war that’s far from their doorstep. A different matter when they and their family members get mobilised against their will.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1572596243905540101?s=46&t=7zQtesqUmhMjsYQAMtDb7Q

Russians fleeing Russia.


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[DaveF]

https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1572596243905540101?s=46&t=7zQtesqUmhMjsYQAMtDb7Q

Russians fleeing Russia.


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Page gone?

[Stairway 2 7]

The longer this goes on the more certain I am that Russia will collapse from within.

Ukraine don’t need to take back all their lost territory, just keep the Russians on the back foot long enough for it to happen.

It’s one thing for the Russian public to put up with or even support a war that’s far from their doorstep. A different matter when they and their family members get mobilised against their will.

I believe cynically this is what the west and the US is after, bleed them until they are destroyed.

I'm sure after the first few weeks after Ukraine pushed back it was clear nato could destroy them within a week.

20 HIMARS has given Ukraine the advantage the US alone has 600. Most of Ukraines weapons bar HIMARS are obsolete last generation equipment, although this is still better than Russian gear.

If nato gave Ukraine hundreds of HIMARS, f16 planes, modern tanks, long distance missiles them this would be over quick.

If they did that Ukraine would have its country back, but Putin would blame the defeat on nato. Alot less of his soldiers would be gone, they wouldn't have used up their millions of Soviet era tanks and artillery also. Their economy could recover quickly and sanctions would probably end.

This way Russia is destroying all its huge amount of stored military equipment, destroying its regular soldiers, destroying its economy, forcing Europe to get new energy routes, finally it could force Putin out

[Ozyhibby]

I believe cynically this is what the west and the US is after, bleed them until they are destroyed.

I'm sure after the first few weeks after Ukraine pushed back it was clear nato could destroy them within a week.

20 HIMARS has given Ukraine the advantage the US alone has 600. Most of Ukraines weapons bar HIMARS are obsolete last generation equipment, although this is still better than Russian gear.

If nato gave Ukraine hundreds of HIMARS, f16 planes, modern tanks, long distance missiles them this would be over quick.

If they did that Ukraine would have its country back, but Putin would blame the defeat on nato. Alot less of his soldiers would be gone, they wouldn't have used up their millions of Soviet era tanks and artillery also. Their economy could recover quickly and sanctions would probably end.

This way Russia is destroying all its huge amount of stored military equipment, destroying its regular soldiers, destroying its economy, forcing Europe to get new energy routes, finally it could force Putin out

The only people who don’t realise how weak Russia is are Russians. They have to the most stupid population in Europe.


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[Ozyhibby]

Page gone?

Think it’s been taken down as it’s an old photo. Sorry.[emoji106]


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[superfurryhibby]

The only people who don’t realise how weak Russia is are Russians. They have to the most stupid population in Europe.


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Brexit voting, monarchy worshipping, Britons may claim that accolade.

I wouldn't be too quick to judge a people living in a dictatorship.

[Stairway 2 7]

Manipulated people are victims, not stupid. Whether that is being pro war or brexit. They are getting fed nonsense from we'll oiled evil manipulative schemes in both cases

[Ozyhibby]

Manipulated people are victims, not stupid. Whether that is being pro war or brexit. They are getting fed nonsense from we'll oiled evil manipulative schemes in both cases

I have some sympathy for that but they manage to have revolutions and still never take control for themselves despite examples of democracy all around them. And any change that ever happens there tends to come from some sort of external shock rather than a desire for change from within.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Protests and arrests in many Russian cities. Brave people seeing what the consequences could be

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572618694051921920
Protests also began in #Ufa

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572616149417988096
Detentions continue in #Yekaterinburg. The police take away an activist who shouts the slogan "No to War".

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572609005700390917
In #Novosibirsk, Putin's "cosmonauts" detain people

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572606461817094144

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572617885096239104

A representative of the Navalny Team, called Nikolai Peskov, pretending to be an employee of the military registration and asked him to come to commissariat. Peskov's son made it clear that there was no need to wait for him, because he is blue blood, not an ordinary mortal.

"You must understand, if you know that I am Mr. Peskov, how wrong it is for me to be there. In short, I will solve this at another level," said Nikolai Peskov

[Stairway 2 7]

How times change in Armenia, Russian influence is gone.

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572622531911356422

Protesters gathered in #Yerevan with the flags of the United States and #Ukraine.

[Stairway 2 7]

Protests and arrests in many Russian cities. Brave people seeing what the consequences could be

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572618694051921920
Protests also began in #Ufa

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572616149417988096
Detentions continue in #Yekaterinburg. The police take away an activist who shouts the slogan "No to War".

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572609005700390917
In #Novosibirsk, Putin's "cosmonauts" detain people

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572606461817094144

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572625760762105857
Cosmonauts" detain people in #Moscow on Arbat Street

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572624598327525376

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572623756585242630
In #Izhevsk, one woman was detained by seven (!) policemen

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572633627028226049

In #Moscow, a young woman lost consciousness while being dragged to a police van.

So far, at least 425 people have been detained all over #Russia, according to "OVD-Info

https://mobile.twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1572625388265938944

A crowd gathered this evening on Arbat, Moscow's main pedestrian street, shouts "Send Putin to the trenches

@PhillipsPOBrien
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4m
Nice to see it now, but these people didn’t seem too upset when others were being sent to die for them and Ukraine was being poisoned by Putin’s war crimes

[Stairway 2 7]

Good on them. But at the same time they seem more upset about being called up to be HIMARS ed than Bucha massacre ect

@nexta_tv
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7m
More than a thousand people were detained in 38 Russian cities at today's anti-mobilization protests, OVD-Info reported.

The largest number of people were detained in #Moscow and St. #Petersburg. 394 and 376 respectively.

[Bridge hibs]

Good on them. But at the same time they seem more upset about being called up to be HIMARS ed than Bucha massacre ect

@nexta_tv
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7m
More than a thousand people were detained in 38 Russian cities at today's anti-mobilization protests, OVD-Info reported.

The largest number of people were detained in #Moscow and St. #Petersburg. 394 and 376 respectively.Hopefully unrest escalates, we need hundreds of thousands, a few smatterings are not going to make a difference but its a start

[stu in nottingham]

Aiden Aslin from Newark, Shaun Pinner and several others being released and on their way home. Rumours, even still circulating yesterday were that they had been executed. Now heading back and will be back on home soil shortly.

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/live-aiden-aslin-updates-newark-7612580

[superfurryhibby]

I have some sympathy for that but they manage to have revolutions and still never take control for themselves despite examples of democracy all around them. And any change that ever happens there tends to come from some sort of external shock rather than a desire for change from within.


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A revolution, in 1917. I’m puzzled when there might have been another one in Russia? The biggest change since must surely be the emergence of Gorbachev and the dissolution of the Soviet Union. That wasn’t a popular revolution, more of a powered elite vying for control and deciding on a change of direction. There was a failed military coup, which led to the rise of Yeltsin and what followed.

I’m not so sure that examples of democracy are that relevant to Russia.

Either way, a public ruled by a repressive dictatorship, they’re not to blame for the actions of those that lord it over them.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/kshoshiashvili/status/1572653051433086978?s=46&t=YC1Vu0LjAgw5mRCJCBYYTw

Huge q’s at Russia border with Georgia.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Jesus. The state of the firsts drafted men from Russia, looks like the jolly boys outing

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572874130382548992

https://mobile.twitter.com/PjotrSauer/status/1572863899934019585

[J-C]

I think it ends in a coup. Probably after a collapse in Russian army.


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It's costing the Russions billions if not trillions, the oligarchs and high ranking military will do something, a coup as you say.

[Stairway 2 7]

nexta_tv
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#NorthKorea has released an official statement claiming that it has never supplied weapons to #Russia and has no such plans

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1572924327405707264

@TadeuszGiczan
Pretty powerful video. In Dagestan locals clearly don't want to go to war with Ukraine. The recruiting officer argues they have to fight for the future. – We don't even have a present, what future are you talking about," replies a Dagestani man

If you listen carefully there is so much truth being told in that short videoclip. In 0:54 sec the lady from the conscription office says “Are you literate? Do you watch TV and know what happens at all?” The reply is “I don’t watch TV and that’s why I’m staying literate

[Renfrew_Hibby]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1572924327405707264

@TadeuszGiczan
Pretty powerful video. In Dagestan locals clearly don't want to go to war with Ukraine. The recruiting officer argues they have to fight for the future. – We don't even have a present, what future are you talking about," replies a Dagestani man

If you listen carefully there is so much truth being told in that short videoclip. In 0:54 sec the lady from the conscription office says “Are you literate? Do you watch TV and know what happens at all?” The reply is “I don’t watch TV and that’s why I’m staying literate

That clip says it all, a white Russian women barking at Dagestani Muslims. Dagestan is the poorest of Russias 85 federal regions and almost entirely Muslim.

The only footage of mobilisations today have come from the ethnic far flung corners of the federation.
I think the hipsters of Moscow and St.Petersburg can rest easy at the moment.

It's seems that Governors in European Russia will hang fire on local mobilisations until the poor ethnic resources have been totally exhausted.

[CyberSauzee]

And more news from far flung Buryatia (yes I had to look up where it was!! Eastern Siberia)

https://twitter.com/ichbinilya/status/1572921782805340163?t=FG_RhxaaCyDNAtcjiPEUdw&s=19

In Buratiya, male uni students are being taken straight out of classes. Some schools have closed and turned into enlistment offices. Men are being rounded up and conscripted from small villages.

[CyberSauzee]

Interesting thread about NY Times article on Russia's surveillance state. Main article behind a paywall but thread summarises things

https://twitter.com/paulmozur/status/1572936470192852992?t=_MJCIyAcyDMFQgibQEU5Ng&s=19

[Stairway 2 7]

Interesting thread about NY Times article on Russia's surveillance state. Main article behind a paywall but thread summarises things

https://twitter.com/paulmozur/status/1572936470192852992?t=_MJCIyAcyDMFQgibQEU5Ng&s=19
That's mental

[Stairway 2 7]

Report from some on getting draft letters

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62992365

'I will break my arm, my leg... anything to avoid the draft

[Stairway 2 7]

The far right in Italy could win on Sunday, they are very much pro Putin

https://mobile.twitter.com/davcarretta/status/1573177315479244803

[Stairway 2 7]

Russian conscripts are being given ww2 weapons. Against gps artillery and Ukrainian infantry with modern guns and night vision. Disgusting slaughter of thousands coming up

https://mobile.twitter.com/vcdgf555/status/1573136922163421185

When the one with the rifle gets killed, the one who is following picks up the rifle and SHOOTS

[Stairway 2 7]

Garry Kasparov
@Kasparov63
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15h
For the 1000th time, we watch as Putin escalates despite the Allies self-deterrence. Not despite, actually, but because of it. When will the West learn that you have to cut cancer out quickly, not negotiate with it or fight it proportionally

Don’t send this or that essential weapon to Ukraine or Putin will escalate. Don’t create a no -fly zone or Putin will escalate. Don’t clear the Black Sea or Putin will escalate. You chose dishonor and you have escalation anyway. Every time

Instead of giving Ukraine what it needs to inflict the defeat required to end this war, the Allies are dragging their feet. It gives Putin, his military, and his propaganda time to adapt, invest, regroup. And winter is coming, this time literally

[WhileTheChief..]

Ukrainian ambassador to the UK gives his thoughts on Putin, the Russian people, the mobilisation and the nuclear threat.

Really impressive guy.

Hard not to agree with everything he said, he doesn’t sugar coat things at all.


https://youtu.be/2iQUi_J1ObI

[WhileTheChief..]

A revolution, in 1917. I’m puzzled when there might have been another one in Russia? The biggest change since must surely be the emergence of Gorbachev and the dissolution of the Soviet Union. That wasn’t a popular revolution, more of a powered elite vying for control and deciding on a change of direction. There was a failed military coup, which led to the rise of Yeltsin and what followed.

I’m not so sure that examples of democracy are that relevant to Russia.

Either way, a public ruled by a repressive dictatorship, they’re not to blame for the actions of those that lord it over them.

It’s an interesting point.

Ukraine were heading down a different path under their previous president. He wanted a 3rd term and to basically copy Putin. Same as Belarus.

The Ukrainian people said no. They objected, fought, and got Zelensky instead.

The Russian people could have done similar over the last 30 years but instead they turned a blind eye to tyranny, were complicit in the lies, and now find themselves where they are.

I find it hard to have sympathy for them. Too many of them support Putin and want to see the return of the Soviet Union.

I hope to see the Russian Federation disintegrate and a few new, smaller Federations spring up that can function as independent states in the same was as the Baltic countries can.

[Paul1642]

It’s an interesting point.

Ukraine were heading down a different path under their previous president. He wanted a 3rd term and to basically copy Putin. Same as Belarus.

The Ukrainian people said no. They objected, fought, and got Zelensky instead.

The Russian people could have done similar over the last 30 years but instead they turned a blind eye to tyranny, were complicit in the lies, and now find themselves where they are.

I find it hard to have sympathy for them. Too many of them support Putin and want to see the return of the Soviet Union.

I hope to see the Russian Federation disintegrate and a few new, smaller Federations spring up that can function as independent states in the same was as the Baltic countries can.

If this were to happen it would probably end up with decades of civil wars and wars between the new states, with the people being the one who suffer.

Better if Putin get binned and replaced with a normal government.

[Stairway 2 7]

Russians can't just sit back and ignore it now, we'll they can more so if they are from West Russian

https://www.ft.com/content/a75f30d2-99c7-4e25-ac7b-c7a46c7bc824?shareType=nongift

Everyone will get snatched off the street’: mobilisation brings Ukraine war home to Russians
Reservists who face being sent to fight are desperately seeking a way out over the border

[Stairway 2 7]

Jesus absolutely brutal from the un investigation

https://mobile.twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/1573285602929348611

@paulmasonnews
The UN High Commissioner on Human Rights just gave an update on Russian atrocities in Ukraine. Here's the gruesome detail. Don't look away. Executions, child rape, cluster bombing of civilians. The Russian army is a criminal enterprise... https://ohchr.org/en/statements/2022/09/update-chair-independent-international-commission-inquiry-ukraine-51st-session

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1573282674847932416

NeilPHauer
Russian draftees being told they will receive two weeks of training, then off to the front. The chaos is going to be unimaginable

[The_Exile]

https://mobile.twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1573282674847932416

NeilPHauer
Russian draftees being told they will receive two weeks of training, then off to the front. The chaos is going to be unimaginable

If it were me in that situation, I would go, get the training, and walk straight towards the nearest Ukranian unit with a white hankie waving and just hope they don't shoot me. What a position to be in. On either side.

[Bridge hibs]

https://mobile.twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1573282674847932416

NeilPHauer
Russian draftees being told they will receive two weeks of training, then off to the front. The chaos is going to be unimaginableI honestly cant comprehend the logic behind this, I could understand at the very least reservists but Joe Public ? What does Putin have to gain from this ? Surely, I would have thought a country the size of Russia would still have a couple of hundred thousands of military personnel to use before even contemplating using untrained civillians

Ffs theres soldiers who sign up to fight and I would imagine a fair few would want to kiss Putins arse and then theres the ones who work in Burger King

[Stairway 2 7]

I honestly cant comprehend the logic behind this, I could understand at the very least reservists but Joe Public ? What does Putin have to gain from this ? Surely, I would have thought a country the size of Russia would still have a couple of hundred thousands of military personnel to use before even contemplating using untrained civillians

Ffs theres soldiers who sign up to fight and I would imagine a fair few would want to kiss Putins arse and then theres the ones who work in Burger King

He has no trained army left. Estimates of 50,000 dead and another 100,000 injured, even if inflated its ww1 loses.

90% of their elite vdv for example were slaughtered near Kyiv. If they had the soldiers they would use them instead of giving up territory. They need cannon fodder to plug the huge gaps in their defences.

[Stairway 2 7]

JohnSimpsonNews
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3h
China’s foreign minister tells his Ukrainian counterpart, Dmytro Kuleba, that China respects Ukraine’s sovereignty & territorial integrity & rejects force. This on the day when referendums begin in Russian-held areas of Ukraine on whether to link up with Russia. Watch out, Putin

[Bridge hibs]

He has no trained army left. Estimates of 50,000 dead and another 100,000 injured, even if inflated its ww1 loses.

90% of their elite vdv for example were slaughtered near Kyiv. If they had the soldiers they would use them instead of giving up territory. They need cannon fodder to plug the huge gaps in their defences.Thats what I was thinking, but when those poor innocent non soldiers perish where does he go then, Women ? With his elite near gone surely his newest recruits will be gone quicker, ****ing unbelievably tragic. **** knows where this **** show will end, it was quite emotional seeing those guys being torn from their families with probably all or most returning in body bags

[Stairway 2 7]

Thats what I was thinking, but when those poor innocent non soldiers perish where does he go then, Women ? With his elite near gone surely his newest recruits will be gone quicker, ****ing unbelievably tragic. **** knows where this **** show will end, it was quite emotional seeing those guys being torn from their families with probably all or most returning in body bags

Aye horrible watching them go off, just poor men. Evenworseis they are mostly from ethnic backgrounds. Putin likes to ride around topless on horses and play posed judo, surely he can show how it's done

noclador
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44m
putin is scared ****less of the people in moscow or petersburg:

mobilized outside of moscow and petersburg: 0.93%
mobilized of moscow's population: 0.12%
mobilized of petersburg's population: 0.06%.

[WhileTheChief..]

If this were to happen it would probably end up with decades of civil wars and wars between the new states, with the people being the one who suffer.

Better if Putin get binned and replaced with a normal government.

I agree, but listening to various commentators, it could take 2 or 3 generations to get to a 'normal' government due to the ingrained corruption is every aspect of civil life.

There's no quick fix and any solution will probably take decades, but a few new central Asian countries or small federations would at least have a chance to make a go of things.

It took the Baltic states a while but they've never looked back.

[WhileTheChief..]

If it were me in that situation, I would go, get the training, and walk straight towards the nearest Ukranian unit with a white hankie waving and just hope they don't shoot me. What a position to be in. On either side.

There were reports on the news with exactly that happening, in their hundreds and thousands, causing havoc.

Ukraine taking plenty of prisoners as they will need to exchange them for the millions of citizens that have been 'displaced' into Russia.

[WhileTheChief..]

He has no trained army left. Estimates of 50,000 dead and another 100,000 injured, even if inflated its ww1 loses.

90% of their elite vdv for example were slaughtered near Kyiv. If they had the soldiers they would use them instead of giving up territory. They need cannon fodder to plug the huge gaps in their defences.

Apparently they have up to 2m ex-servicemen they could call up. That's anyone who served in the military in the last 20 years or something, right up to age 65.

More meat into the grinder as the UKR ambassador would say.

[Ozyhibby]

Apparently they have up to 2m ex-servicemen they could call up. That's anyone who served in the military in the last 20 years or something, right up to age 65.

More meat into the grinder as the UKR ambassador would say.

They could call up 20m for all the difference it would make. Look at the guns they are having to use now.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1573595611986886657?s=46&t=6PzMPhsQKhznKpB14mw6DQ


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[Hibrandenburg]

They could call up 20m for all the difference it would make. Look at the guns they are having to use now.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1573595611986886657?s=46&t=6PzMPhsQKhznKpB14mw6DQ


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That more likely to kill the user than the enemy.

[WhileTheChief..]

They could call up 20m for all the difference it would make. Look at the guns they are having to use now.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1573595611986886657?s=46&t=6PzMPhsQKhznKpB14mw6DQ


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Yeah I saw that earlier.

Watching some vids this morning by conscripts in Russia. Regular lads working in factories or wherever being served with papers telling them to report for duty within 24 hours.

One guy works in a factory that makes missiles for their military. He's being sent to the front line instead with 2 weeks military training. You'd have thought he was the equivalent of an essential worker but apparently not!

[Ozyhibby]

Yeah I saw that earlier.

Watching some vids this morning by conscripts in Russia. Regular lads working in factories or wherever being served with papers telling them to report for duty within 24 hours.

One guy works in a factory that makes missiles for their military. He's being sent to the front line instead with 2 weeks military training. You'd have thought he was the equivalent of an essential worker but apparently not!

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1573604558835785729?s=46&t=6PzMPhsQKhznKpB14mw6DQ

This one is even worse.[emoji23]


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[WhileTheChief..]

It's vids like these that make me relaxed at the threat of their nukes.

I doubt they have any that can even be launched safely. Imagine being the guys that work at the facility where they're fired from. Would you risk it?!

[Ozyhibby]

It's vids like these that make me relaxed at the threat of their nukes.

I doubt they have any that can even be launched safely. Imagine being the guys that work at the facility where they're fired from. Would you risk it?!

Also, it the place that corruption is least likely to be found out. Who’s going to notice if you’ve not been maintaining a missile that’s never meant to be fired anyway?


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[Lendo]

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1573604558835785729?s=46&t=6PzMPhsQKhznKpB14mw6DQ

This one is even worse.[emoji23]


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That’s ****ing wild. Imagine having to be the general that’s going to need to explain that to Putin.

[Stairway 2 7]

Good statement. I saw lots of vox pops saying they didn't care about the war as they weren't political. Some in the uk may have said the same about Iraq. They will mind if they are handed a gun and sent to fight western weapons

https://mobile.twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1573433556004753420

@francis_scarr
Graffiti in St Petersburg:

"To start with you were indifferent to politics and now you're cannon fodder

[Stairway 2 7]

Unbelievable that this isn't shocking anymore.

https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/in-kharkiv-ukraine-reveals-a-network-of-russian-torture-chambers/

In Kharkiv, Ukraine Reveals a Network of Russian Torture Chambers
Reporting from newly-liberated Kharkiv, New Lines finds evidence of extensive Russian torture of Ukrainian civilians

[Stairway 2 7]

Can see why some might be reluctant to protest

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1573737780827471872

nexta_tv
Beating of protesters in St. Petersburg

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/chriso_wiki/status/1573962833049665538?s=46&t=oJ5OiPALPIOnDkQIwoPL2A

Interesting read.


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[Stairway 2 7]

https://twitter.com/chriso_wiki/status/1573962833049665538?s=46&t=oJ5OiPALPIOnDkQIwoPL2A

Interesting read.


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What an unbelievable thread, in a horrible way. We're going to see a slaughter, brutal

"The war in Ukraine will cause the loss of about 500,000 dead and wounded (a significant proportion of whom will be permanently disabled) in a year. These are men of the most productive age, whose entire working and social lives are ahead of them

Altogether, Russia could lose more than 10% of men in the 20-29 age group"

[Stairway 2 7]

Apparently gun shots fired in anti mobilisation demonstrations in dagestan

https://mobile.twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1573888881530994688
@maxseddon
A largely female protest against mobilization in Yakutsk, far eastern Russia. They’re chanting “Give us our grandfathers back

https://mobile.twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1573990376305745922
More protests against mobilization, this time in Khasavyurt in Dagestan, where locals have reportedly blocked off a highway

[Stairway 2 7]

More gun fire to quell protests in dagestan

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1573978493234417665

[Renfrew_Hibby]

A genocide of Russias ethnic people's from the Caucuses, the far north and eastern Siberia is about to commence.
Slavic Russians are fairly ambivalent about this but I genuinely think Russia could be hit by internal race wars and a collapse in the federation.

[Stairway 2 7]

I wonder if she is signing up

https://mobile.twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1574024358808387586

@officejjsmart
🇷🇺 Russians in line to leave for Kazakhstan 🇰🇿. The woman is yelling at them, “Where in the F- are you running? Where are you going, you cowards? You are a disgrace! Disgrace! Animals who won’t defend us! Look at the faces of these pansies! Gays! Look at these cowards! Monsters

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1574017238562209793

officejjsmart
Yakutia, Russia 🇷🇺: Another ethnic minority region from which Putin has been dragging away young men to fight his bloody war, holds an anti-war protest

[Stairway 2 7]

Another disaster in the battlefield brewing, mainly down to Putin being stubborn at the cost of lives

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThreshedThought/status/1574061574989529090

[Glory Lurker]

Another disaster in the battlefield brewing, mainly down to Putin being stubborn at the cost of lives

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThreshedThought/status/1574061574989529090

Is this in a referendum area? Must be a nightmare for those nice Russians just trying to support the principle of self determination.

[Stairway 2 7]

Is this in a referendum area? Must be a nightmare for those nice Russians just trying to support the principle of self determination.

Yeah one of the reasons he is probably trying to hold on at all costs. If, sorry when this falls, there is no defensive barriers all the way to the Russian border.

The results of the election is next week. They need to hold on or a huge slice of luhansk will be Ukraine hands, a huge part of donetsk is already in Ukraine control

[Stairway 2 7]

I just can't imagine her pain, heartbreaking

https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1574122385875288070

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
Ukrainian mother tells the story of how the Russians kidnapped her 13-year-old daughter and sent her to a “summer camp” in Russia after occupying her village.

She was never returned and her mother has no idea where she is

[Stairway 2 7]

Poland a nato member sent 300 tanks, the US HIMARS, nasams, slovenia sent 28 tanks, Slovakia sent fighter jets, Turkey bayraktars, UK mlrs and Starstreak. Russia has done nothing. Stop pissing about and arm them. That goes for other nations too. We could finish this in a week if we game then modern weapons

visegrad24
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Chancellor Scholz asked about why Germany won’t sent tanks to Ukraine:

"This is a very dangerous war (…) We support Ukraine. We do it in a way that does not lead to an escalation, to a war between NATO and Russia, because that would be a disaster

[Jones28]

Poland a nato member sent 300 tanks, the US HIMARS, nasams, slovenia sent 28 tanks, Slovakia sent fighter jets, Turkey bayraktars, UK mlrs and Starstreak. Russia has done nothing. Stop pissing about and arm them. That goes for other nations too. We could finish this in a week if we game then modern weapons

visegrad24
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Chancellor Scholz asked about why Germany won’t sent tanks to Ukraine:

"This is a very dangerous war (…) We support Ukraine. We do it in a way that does not lead to an escalation, to a war between NATO and Russia, because that would be a disaster

By the day I increasingly feel like NATO involvement would absolutely annihilate Russia. The state of their latest recruits was abominable - actual, real life cannon fodder.

[Just Alf]

Reading some news about Roger Waters of Pink Floyd....

If true, I wish I had the knowledge on how to fire him a tweet of the wee dead girl in the pram along with a few words.. "Hey Roger, leave those kids alone.... "

[Lendo]

By the day I increasingly feel like NATO involvement would absolutely annihilate Russia. The state of their latest recruits was abominable - actual, real life cannon fodder.

It would be a massacre for Russia and at which point he would have zero hesitation to start using tactical nuclear weapons and once that starts there’s likely no way back.

[Ozyhibby]

Poland a nato member sent 300 tanks, the US HIMARS, nasams, slovenia sent 28 tanks, Slovakia sent fighter jets, Turkey bayraktars, UK mlrs and Starstreak. Russia has done nothing. Stop pissing about and arm them. That goes for other nations too. We could finish this in a week if we game then modern weapons

visegrad24
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Chancellor Scholz asked about why Germany won’t sent tanks to Ukraine:

"This is a very dangerous war (…) We support Ukraine. We do it in a way that does not lead to an escalation, to a war between NATO and Russia, because that would be a disaster

To be fair, we haven’t sent tanks either as far as I know?


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[Hibrandenburg]

To be fair, we haven’t sent tanks either as far as I know?


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Has any country sent modern Western tanks?

[Stairway 2 7]

We've sent hundreds of tanks to Poland so that Poland could send hundreds to Ukraine. It was spain that wanted to send to Ukraine but Germany blocked it
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thedefensepost.com/2022/08/04/spain-leopard-tanks-ukraine-2/amp/

It's the German opposition that is pushing Germany to send heavy weapons and more money. German Leopards are what Ukraine is asking for as they can transition easily. Us Abrahams is a completely different system, although Ukrainians are training on them. Ukraine says they could use leopards in a month


Germany is the biggest economy in Europe but relative to that economy has sent the 18th biggest amount of weapons. So its not really about tanks it's the German opposition pushing Scholz to send heavy weapons.

https://www.politico.eu/article/german-government-faces-domestic-pressure-to-send-tanks-to-ukraine/

[Stairway 2 7]

@nexta_tv
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After the announcement of "partial #mobilization," 261 thousand men left #Russia, reports the newspaper Novaya Gazeta. Europe". This figure is indicated in the latest information from the #FSB

[Stairway 2 7]

A lot of prisoners will have died

https://mobile.twitter.com/Tendar/status/1573991447736582146


(((Tendar)))
@Tendar
HIMARS have wiped out the primary Russian Wagner base in Alchevsk. #Alchevsk #Luhansk #Ukraine

[CyberSauzee]

Draftees now shooting the head of the local draft committee. Still alive but in intensive care.

https://twitter.com/Andrew__Roth/status/1574272320071426049?t=a8e6l5HC1dc64CS98_6Svw&s=19

[Stairway 2 7]

Draftees now shooting the head of the local draft committee. Still alive but in intensive care.

https://twitter.com/Andrew__Roth/status/1574272320071426049?t=a8e6l5HC1dc64CS98_6Svw&s=19

Another draft office was burnt down last night too. Read one of the problems is the rosgvardia that would usually deal with this has already been sent to Ukraine, that's why some demonstrations might escalate too

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1574289866438987778

[Rumble de Thump]

It would be a massacre for Russia and at which point he would have zero hesitation to start using tactical nuclear weapons and once that starts there’s likely no way back.

The reason Russia hasn't launched a nuclear missile is that it will lead to the destruction of Russia - the complete opposite of what Putin wants to achieve. Either that or none of the nukes actually work.

[greenginger]

Has any country sent modern Western tanks?


Draftees now shooting the head of the local draft committee. Still alive but in intensive care.

https://twitter.com/Andrew__Roth/status/1574272320071426049?t=a8e6l5HC1dc64CS98_6Svw&s=19

Thats more like it.

Taking a leaf out of the 1917 proletariat play book.

Shoot your officers.

[Hibrandenburg]

We've sent hundreds of tanks to Poland so that Poland could send hundreds to Ukraine. It was spain that wanted to send to Ukraine but Germany blocked it
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thedefensepost.com/2022/08/04/spain-leopard-tanks-ukraine-2/amp/

It's the German opposition that is pushing Germany to send heavy weapons and more money. German Leopards are what Ukraine is asking for as they can transition easily. Us Abrahams is a completely different system, although Ukrainians are training on them. Ukraine says they could use leopards in a month


Germany is the biggest economy in Europe but relative to that economy has sent the 18th biggest amount of weapons. So its not really about tanks it's the German opposition pushing Scholz to send heavy weapons.

https://www.politico.eu/article/german-government-faces-domestic-pressure-to-send-tanks-to-ukraine/

So nobody has sent modern western tanks to Ukraine?

[Stairway 2 7]

So nobody has sent modern western tanks to Ukraine?

Ukraine are asking for leopards as they are the only modern tanks they will be able to use this year. Spain said we'll send them Germany said no.

Do you believe 20 modern tanks being sent would have been seen as too far for Russia. Poland sent 300 tanks and nothing, Slovakia fighter jets nowt. Previously you said Germany sending heavy weapons would be big news in Russia. Germany sent Mars 11 mlrs and Panzerhaubitze and nothing.

Mars 11 can blow up buildings 80 miles away, much more deadly and powerful than a tank. It's assumed they are happy to send Mars 11 as they are well behind the lines. They don't want to send tanks which could be captured and all the information and technology gone. I think that's fair enough but say that's the reason, not escalation.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1574403779939962881?s=46&t=_rpnjETZu5Zzg2GZtfhI6A

The state of these trucks the Russians are sending to Ukraine.[emoji102]


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[Rumble de Thump]

Even if Russia could force 300,000 guys to go and fight in Ukraine they just don't have any decent gear to equip them with. The war will likely drag on for a considerable amount of time and Russia will do a lot more damage to Ukraine, but Russia's demise is inevitable.

[Hibrandenburg]

Ukraine are asking for leopards as they are the only modern tanks they will be able to use this year. Spain said we'll send them Germany said no.

Do you believe 20 modern tanks being sent would have been seen as too far for Russia. Poland sent 300 tanks and nothing, Slovakia fighter jets nowt. Previously you said Germany sending heavy weapons would be big news in Russia. Germany sent Mars 11 mlrs and Panzerhaubitze and nothing.

Mars 11 can blow up buildings 80 miles away, much more deadly and powerful than a tank. It's assumed they are happy to send Mars 11 as they are well behind the lines. They don't want to send tanks which could be captured and all the information and technology gone. I think that's fair enough but say that's the reason, not escalation.

So nobody has sent modern Western battle tanks?

[CyberSauzee]

There's a link to video and pictures on a telegram channel in the replies. They are gruesome so be warned. If they relate to what has been described in this tweet then it does look like Russia has started to use their cannon fodder.

https://twitter.com/MalcontentmentT/status/1574277002424913920?t=22I9zFIdcfIQvDYIWrsIjg&s=19

[Stairway 2 7]

So nobody has sent modern Western battle tanks?
Ukraine is asking for German made tanks as its priority. Spain says have them, rhienmetal says we'll give you more, the US says we'll repair them, the German opposition says please send, Scholz says no

Germany could invade Poland again and you would defend them, that's alien to me who has tried to criticise the wrong in every government I've had, that's easy right now.

Comparative to economy Germany has given the 18th most aid. Poland obviously first the US second and UK third. Imagine being so far behind a bunch of ****my governments when a genocide is going on on your doorstep

[Stairway 2 7]

There's a link to video and pictures on a telegram channel in the replies. They are gruesome so be warned. If they relate to what has been described in this tweet then it does look like Russia has started to use their cannon fodder.

https://twitter.com/MalcontentmentT/status/1574277002424913920?t=22I9zFIdcfIQvDYIWrsIjg&s=19
I saw pictures of soldiers with jogging trousers on and camo jackets. Absolutely brutal, poor men

[Stairway 2 7]

Jesus

https://mobile.twitter.com/noclador/status/1574506807904673794
@noclador
Yesterday, after hearing that putin's mobilized mob gets 0-1 days of military training, I said that 40% of these men will day within the first week... after seeing this video I have to revise that: 80% will die in the first week

wartranslated
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Soldiers, most likely L/DPR guys, are sitting in the forest on the frontline, complaining about how they were dumped with no food or water, only with assault rifles

[Hibrandenburg]

Ukraine is asking for German made tanks as its priority. Spain says have them, rhienmetal says we'll give you more, the US says we'll repair them, the German opposition says please send, Scholz says no

Germany could invade Poland again and you would defend them, that's alien to me who has tried to criticise the wrong in every government I've had, that's easy right now.

Comparative to economy Germany has given the 18th most aid. Poland obviously first the US second and UK third. Imagine being so far behind a bunch of ****my governments when a genocide is going on on your doorstep

So nobody is supplying Ukraine with western style battle tanks?

[Stairway 2 7]

So nobody is supplying Ukraine with western style battle tanks?

Nope because the only ones Ukraine can use quickly leopards, Germany is blocking Spain sending, so they're screwed. They should have the facilities and training to use American Abrahams by early next year, but thanks to sdp none in the meantime no.

[Hibrandenburg]

Nope because the only ones Ukraine can use quickly leopards, Germany is blocking Spain sending, so they're screwed. They should have the facilities and training to use American Abrahams by early next year, but thanks to sdp none in the meantime no.

So it's got nothing to do with Germany and the rest of NATO agreeing that no western battle tanks should be given to Ukraine at this time?

[Stairway 2 7]

So it's got nothing to do with Germany and the rest of NATO agreeing that no western battle tanks should be given to Ukraine at this time?

Yes that was mocked when Scholz said it. If you remember he initially said it about tanks in general ad no one had then about two weeks later Poland sent 300. He also said it about heavy weapons and I remember you saying it would be a coup for Putin to say Germany sent heavy weapons, he sent heavy weapons and no one cared.

It doesn't make a bit of sense that tanks would be seen as escalation, when we have went much further with HIMARS/mlrs. Russian media was going nuts about mlrs getting sent, quite rightly as they have changed the war. Germany, the US, Norway and UK have sent mlrs and they are blootering Russian lines

The next thing Russia is pushing against is long distance atacms. They have definitely been sent as seen in crimea, but a load would definitely be escalation for the good. More tanks isn't escalation when much deadlier and more modern equipment has already been changing the war

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1574528767984377856

Faytuks
BREAKING: A few hours after the gas leak on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, Nord Stream 1 is also reporting massive problems. The pipelines may have been damaged by targeted attacks - Berliner Zeitung/Tagesspiegel

[Stairway 2 7]

Ukraine on the edge of gaining a huge amount of luhansk

https://mobile.twitter.com/War_Mapper/status/1574549888326590464

[Renfrew_Hibby]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GaVfMH0hA2I

Just a random video of some call ups from Tomsk oblast preparing to leave for the front. Watching I wonder how many will be dead a week from now.

These guys are from rural Siberia, they are poorly educated and have very limited opportunities in life. They don't have the funds to escape this hell like much wealthier Russians in Moscow or St.Petersburg. They seem to be putting on a brave face but many must be resigned to their fate.

Just so sad to watch these videos, Russian losses are going to be catastrophic.

[Rumble de Thump]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GaVfMH0hA2I

Just a random video of some call ups from Tomsk oblast preparing to leave for the front. Watching I wonder how many will be dead a week from now.

These guys are from rural Siberia, they are poorly educated and have very limited opportunities in life. They don't have the funds to escape this hell like much wealthier Russians in Moscow or St.Petersburg. They seem to be putting on a brave face but many must be resigned to their fate.

Just so sad to watch these videos, Russian losses are going to be catastrophic.

Hopefully they will surrender at the first opportunity and make it back home to their families after the war is over.

[Jones28]

Jesus

https://mobile.twitter.com/noclador/status/1574506807904673794
@noclador
Yesterday, after hearing that putin's mobilized mob gets 0-1 days of military training, I said that 40% of these men will day within the first week... after seeing this video I have to revise that: 80% will die in the first week

wartranslated
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Soldiers, most likely L/DPR guys, are sitting in the forest on the frontline, complaining about how they were dumped with no food or water, only with assault rifles

That would be backed up by a video I've just seen of a female recruiter telling new recruits to take sleeping bags, mats, tampons (literally to plug bullet wounds), tourniquets and car medical kits with them. All the army provide them with is rifles and uniforms.

They are going to be massacred. And for what?

[Stairway 2 7]

Wonder what will happen to this young man

https://mobile.twitter.com/pmakela1/status/1574686501719670784

[Smartie]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1574528767984377856

Faytuks
BREAKING: A few hours after the gas leak on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, Nord Stream 1 is also reporting massive problems. The pipelines may have been damaged by targeted attacks - Berliner Zeitung/Tagesspiegel

Who would have more reason to carry out targeted attacks? The Russians, with a view to worsening economic chaos in Europe or the West/ Ukraine, with a view to worsening the economic situation in Russia?

[Stairway 2 7]

Who would have more reason to carry out targeted attacks? The Russians, with a view to worsening economic chaos in Europe or the West/ Ukraine, with a view to worsening the economic situation in Russia?

It's an interesting one although could just be speculation and a coincidence. Apparently it would have to be quite a sophisticated operation with divers ect if it was deliberate

[Stairway 2 7]

Hundreds of Russians surrounded at drobysheve , Putin didn't allow soldiers to abandon drob and lyman. They knew the next defensive line is a huge distance away, it means a huge amount of dead and POWs

https://mobile.twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1574686347209502720

[Ozyhibby]

Who would have more reason to carry out targeted attacks? The Russians, with a view to worsening economic chaos in Europe or the West/ Ukraine, with a view to worsening the economic situation in Russia?

The west don’t need to do it, they can just stop buying it if that’s their goal. I think pipelines running through middle of Ukraine are still operational so if they don’t cut them off, I can’t see them going to trouble of sabotaging under sea pipelines.


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[Paul1642]

The west don’t need to do it, they can just stop buying it if that’s their goal. I think pipelines running through middle of Ukraine are still operational so if they don’t cut them off, I can’t see them going to trouble of sabotaging under sea pipelines.


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I imagine not cutting of the pipelines is in the small print of the military aid they are removing.

[Stairway 2 7]

BNONews
BREAKING: Germany suspects damage to Nord Stream pipeline is the result of sabotage - Bloomberg

[Jones28]

BNONews
BREAKING: Germany suspects damage to Nord Stream pipeline is the result of sabotage - Bloomberg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT4g9j7ufhyNGcWZ8r_eYW3Z3f-mfUUeB_J3w&usqp=CAU

[Hibrandenburg]

Yes that was mocked when Scholz said it. If you remember he initially said it about tanks in general ad no one had then about two weeks later Poland sent 300. He also said it about heavy weapons and I remember you saying it would be a coup for Putin to say Germany sent heavy weapons, he sent heavy weapons and no one cared.

It doesn't make a bit of sense that tanks would be seen as escalation, when we have went much further with HIMARS/mlrs. Russian media was going nuts about mlrs getting sent, quite rightly as they have changed the war. Germany, the US, Norway and UK have sent mlrs and they are blootering Russian lines

The next thing Russia is pushing against is long distance atacms. They have definitely been sent as seen in crimea, but a load would definitely be escalation for the good. More tanks isn't escalation when much deadlier and more modern equipment has already been changing the war

NATO have an agreement not to send modern Western battle tanks to Ukraine, why do you expect Germany to unilaterally break that agreement?

[Stairway 2 7]

NATO have an agreement not to send modern Western battle tanks to Ukraine, why do you expect Germany to unilaterally break that agreement?

They haven't. Spain had an agreement to send them but Germany vetoed. Why would they have that rule as they have sent much more deadly and powerful weapons. I said this in my post. Im not really that bothered ad thankfully Germany sent some mlrs, they are much more of a game changer than upgrading the tanks.

[Stairway 2 7]

visegrad24
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The head of the Danish Energy Agency, Kristoffer
@Bottzauw
, says that “there aren’t any small cracks in the Nord Stream pipelines, but rather really big holes”.

He says “we are very worried about what is out there, and whether there are other things about to happen

[Smartie]

visegrad24
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The head of the Danish Energy Agency, Kristoffer
@Bottzauw
, says that “there aren’t any small cracks in the Nord Stream pipelines, but rather really big holes”.

He says “we are very worried about what is out there, and whether there are other things about to happen

I have a hunch that this - and what may be about to follow - could be of significance.

That new pipe from Norway had better be well guarded.

[Stairway 2 7]

visegrad24
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Bjorn Lund, a Swedish seismologist from Lund University, explains to a Swedish reporter how it was possible for him to determine that an explosion had taken place by the Nord Stream pipelines.

He says that “at least 100 kg of TNT has been used, but probably more

[Hibrandenburg]

They haven't. Spain had an agreement to send them but Germany vetoed. Why would they have that rule as they have sent much more deadly and powerful weapons. I said this in my post. Im not really that bothered ad thankfully Germany sent some mlrs, they are much more of a game changer than upgrading the tanks.

Oh yes they have. The Americans, Germans and Ukraine seem to think so.

https://kyivindependent.com/uncategorized/media-nato-members-informally-agree-not-to-supply-ukraine-with-aircraft-and-tanks

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/09/22/ukraine-requests-american-tanks-counteroffensive-00058303

https://www.zeit.de/politik/2022-09/waffenlieferung-ukraine-panzer-olaf-scholz-nato?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

[Stairway 2 7]

Oh yes they have. The Americans, Germans and Ukraine seem to think so.

https://kyivindependent.com/uncategorized/media-nato-members-informally-agree-not-to-supply-ukraine-with-aircraft-and-tanks

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/09/22/ukraine-requests-american-tanks-counteroffensive-00058303

https://www.zeit.de/politik/2022-09/waffenlieferung-ukraine-panzer-olaf-scholz-nato?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

Two of them are from Germany saying it. Spain a nato member agreed the deal and shipping time and Germany vetoed, sort of destroys your argument. The US last month said sending Abrahams are definitely on the table. Its been widely speculated that Ukrainians have been training on Abrahams and a 10s for over a month.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/eurasiantimes.com/rubbing-salt-into-russian-wounds-us-official-hints-at-transfer/

Even outwith tanks you must admit Germany's military aid to Ukraine has been pitiful no? You said before it will cause a big deal Germany sending heavy weapons, they sent mlrs (about as heavy as you can get) and nothing. Go all in if you want to seem important in Europe anymore