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He's here!
25-03-2022, 07:15 AM
It's a warning that we aren't going to stand back, just like when he said it about chemical weapons. Chemicals weapons could have happened but nukes won't. Its just laying down rules to Putin and posturing

On the flip side of that there were months of what seemed like posturing on the Ukraine border before Putin dud actually invade. I note Zelensky has said NATO's response to that came too late.

Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 07:52 AM
On the flip side of that there were months of what seemed like posturing on the Ukraine border before Putin dud actually invade. I note Zelensky has said NATO's response to that came too late.

Natos response didn't come at all. Biden has taken criticism from press this week for saying us wouldn't get involved if Russia invaded so it emboldened Russia. He's laying down early about chemical weapons as Russia used them in Syria. Everyone knows nukes aren't happening apart from stories online that want clicks

Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 08:48 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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Authorities in #Mariupol report that the bombing of the Drama Theater by a #Russian plane killed about 300 people

Jones28
25-03-2022, 08:49 AM
https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1507250703483424768

max seddon
@maxseddon
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1h
“Will l be allowed to have a cleaner, or a driver? I don’t drive a car . . . maybe my stepdaughter will drive. We don’t understand how to survive.”

Russian oligarch Petr Aven laments life after sanctions to
@DanielThomasLDN
and
@AJack

Lets start a Go Fund Me for poor Petr, I'll start by donating happy thoughts,

Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 08:55 AM
Lets start a Go Fund Me for poor Petr, I'll start by donating happy thoughts,

I'm happy to chip in a lavy brush ,bleach and instructions on it's use

Ozyhibby
25-03-2022, 09:16 AM
https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1507250703483424768

max seddon
@maxseddon
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1h
“Will l be allowed to have a cleaner, or a driver? I don’t drive a car . . . maybe my stepdaughter will drive. We don’t understand how to survive.”

Russian oligarch Petr Aven laments life after sanctions to
@DanielThomasLDN
and
@AJack

If he was properly sanctioned how is hiring anyone even an option?


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Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 09:22 AM
If he was properly sanctioned how is hiring anyone even an option?


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He's saying he's not allowed them and how is he supposed to live without them

Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 10:43 AM
https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1507313491652362240

Great thread on how and why Ukraine are getting results, great tactics

Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 10:53 AM
30 super yachts have been seized from oligarchs, Finland could have themselves a new navy

25710

Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 11:45 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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The developers of the Fortnite have raised more than $ 50 million to support #Ukrainians affected by the #Russian invasion

Ozyhibby
25-03-2022, 01:12 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/25/ukraine-west-russia-kyiv-russian-offensive?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1648215356

Worth a read. Ukraine won’t give up territory now.


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Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 01:12 PM
Bad news for Russia

First Squawk
@FirstSquawk
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U.S AUTHORIZE CHEVRON TO OPERATE IN VENEZUELA

Ozyhibby
25-03-2022, 01:19 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220325/c39f13edb6ba82b11f0501a0a8bcd2e5.jpg

Translation:- We’re getting our arse handed to us here so let’s retreat to where we were 5 weeks ago.
Problem is, that’s not an option now. Ukrainians will keep coming.


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Jones28
25-03-2022, 01:43 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220325/c39f13edb6ba82b11f0501a0a8bcd2e5.jpg

Translation:- We’re getting our arse handed to us here so let’s retreat to where we were 5 weeks ago.
Problem is, that’s not an option now. Ukrainians will keep coming.


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Seems like the Ukranian appetite for defending the country they live in is a lot stronger than a nutter in a bunker thought it was. Strange that.

Would be a real shame to see the Russians get chased all the way to the border and then for the Ukranians to sling a few rockets their way for good measure.

stu in nottingham
25-03-2022, 02:10 PM
Some reports (unsubstantiated at this time) of a Ukrainian grannie poisoning eight Russian soldiers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LMbr2DEb6k&ab_channel=denkoen

https://tvmnews.mt/en/news/ukrainian-elderly-woman-kills-8-russian-soldiers-with-poisoned-pie/

Hibernian Verse
25-03-2022, 02:13 PM
Some reports (unsubstantiated at this time) of a Ukrainian grannie poisoning eight Russian soldiers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LMbr2DEb6k&ab_channel=denkoen

https://tvmnews.mt/en/news/ukrainian-elderly-woman-kills-8-russian-soldiers-with-poisoned-pie/

Putin will use that as a reason to use chemical weapons in retaliation.

stu in nottingham
25-03-2022, 03:01 PM
Putin will use that as a reason to use chemical weapons in retaliation.

I don't think he really concerns himself with reasons or reasonable explanations for doing these things.

Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 03:47 PM
Read about this yesterday a commander run over by a tank from one of his own men

Deborah Haynes
@haynesdeborah
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BREAKING: A Russian brigade commander has been killed deliberately by his own troops after his unit suffered many losses in Ukraine, a western official said.
Colonel Medvechek, commander of 37 Motor Rifle Brigade, was run over by his soldiers, the official said

The western official said: “The brigade commander of one of the units was killed by his own troops and killed by his own troops, we believe, as a consequence of the scale of loss that had been taken by his brigade

We believe he was killed by his own troops deliberately. Indeed we believe he was run over by his own troops and I believe he was the commander of the 37 Motor Rifle Brigade

Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 03:50 PM
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/russian-commander-killed-own-troops-ran-over-tank-angry-war-1540492

Report here

Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 04:10 PM
Paul D. Shinkman
@PDShinkman
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NEW: U.S. believes Russia has tried to move Russian reinforcements into Ukraine from Georgia, though unclear how many.

This comes as Putin calls for international support while his forces continue to stall in their offensive

The Pentagon says today, for example, that Ukrainian forces successfully sunk a Russian naval vessel, and that the Kherson is no longer clearly occupied by Russian invaders, now considered "contested" due to Ukrainian offensive

At the capital, increasingly entrenched Russian troops as of Friday "don't show any signs of being able to move on Kyiv from the ground," a senior defense official tells reporters

The Kremlin appears to have shifted is priority away from Kyiv and focusing its forces more aggressively on the Donbas in the east. Russia appears to hope that control of territory there will prove beneficial in negotiations, the Pentagon believes

Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 04:22 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
Chinese concern Sinopec suspends investment projects in #Russia worth $500 million

This is done on the recommendation of the #Chinese government, reports Reuters.

Sinopec is one of the largest energy and chemical concerns in #Asia

Ozyhibby
25-03-2022, 04:24 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
Chinese concern Sinopec suspends investment projects in #Russia worth $500 million

This is done on the recommendation of the #Chinese government, reports Reuters.

Sinopec is one of the largest energy and chemical concerns in #Asia

That could be a sign that the Chinese no longer see a Russian victory.


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Hibrandenburg
25-03-2022, 05:14 PM
Read about this yesterday a commander run over by a tank from one of his own men

Deborah Haynes
@haynesdeborah
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BREAKING: A Russian brigade commander has been killed deliberately by his own troops after his unit suffered many losses in Ukraine, a western official said.
Colonel Medvechek, commander of 37 Motor Rifle Brigade, was run over by his soldiers, the official said

The western official said: “The brigade commander of one of the units was killed by his own troops and killed by his own troops, we believe, as a consequence of the scale of loss that had been taken by his brigade

We believe he was killed by his own troops deliberately. Indeed we believe he was run over by his own troops and I believe he was the commander of the 37 Motor Rifle BrigadeWould be great news if Russian troops have starting fragging their own officers, next up is mass desertions. Ukraine should offer good terms for surrendering Russian soldiers.

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Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 05:28 PM
Trip Gabriel
@tripgabriel
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NYT: Russian forces no longer have full control of Kherson, the first major Ukrainian city that President Vladimir V. Putin’s forces managed to capture as part of his invasion, a senior Pentagon official said on Friday.
https://nytimes.com/live/2022/03/2

First confirmation of the rumoured Ukrainian Kherson counter-offensive and its (astonishing) result particularly given that Ukrainian forces have had to cross the Dnieper to attack the city

Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 05:31 PM
The Kyiv Independent
@KyivIndependent
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⚡️Russian colonel killed in fighting in Ukraine.

Alexei Sharov, colonel of the 810th Separate Guards Marine Brigade of the Black Sea Fleet, was killed by a Ukrainian sniper, according to Russian authorities

Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 07:20 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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#Russia transfers troops to #Ukraine from #Georgia

The Washington Post writes about it with reference to a representative of the Pentagon. It probably refers to soldiers and equipment deployed in occupied #Abkhazia and South #Ossetia.

Ryan91
25-03-2022, 07:28 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220325/c39f13edb6ba82b11f0501a0a8bcd2e5.jpg

Translation:- We’re getting our arse handed to us here so let’s retreat to where we were 5 weeks ago.
Problem is, that’s not an option now. Ukrainians will keep coming.


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Opinion of folks in that region towards Russia has significantly shifted these past few weeks, Donbas won't be a sea of friendly faces for Russian troops.

Stairway 2 7
25-03-2022, 07:57 PM
AFP News Agency
@AFP
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#BREAKING Ukrainians fighting to take back Kherson, now 'contested' city: Pentagon

18Craig75
25-03-2022, 09:01 PM
Been busy most of the day so have missed most of the news. Catching up on Twitter now and it really seems like the Ukrainians are seizing the initiate of several fronts. As always take it with a pinch of salt but plenty of reputable sources reporting they’re taking back ground.

Good on them. It would appear Russia are in a real mess.

Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 08:13 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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Mikhail #Khodorkovsky: "A pack of paper in a store costs ₽2000. It contains 500 sheets. It turns out that a sheet of A4 paper is not only four times more expensive than the #ruble, but also costs more than a share of #Sberbank on the stock exchange in #London"

Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 08:16 AM
The government has signed laws giving it the power to formally detain two private jets belonging to Eugene Shvidler, the right-hand man of Roman Abramovich, The Times can reveal.

Grant Shapps, the transport secretary, signed new orders impounding the jets and making it a criminal offence for the sanctioned oligarch owners to move or fly their aircraft

Bridge hibs
26-03-2022, 08:36 AM
The government has signed laws giving it the power to formally detain two private jets belonging to Eugene Shvidler, the right-hand man of Roman Abramovich, The Times can reveal.

Grant Shapps, the transport secretary, signed new orders impounding the jets and making it a criminal offence for the sanctioned oligarch owners to move or fly their aircraftIs there still peace talks going on or have they been consigned to the bin ? Read Daily Star online (yeah I know) and appears Putins team are still talking tactical use of nukes if Nato step onto Ukranian soil, just doesnt seem to be any positive news coming out of that place

Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 08:45 AM
Is there still peace talks going on or have they been consigned to the bin ? Read Daily Star online (yeah I know) and appears Putins team are still talking tactical use of nukes if Nato step onto Ukranian soil, just doesnt seem to be any positive news coming out of that place
Russia put in their demands but I think Ukraine are seeing lots of success so going to keep pushing back. It will all come down to what happens to the Donbas now

Bridge hibs
26-03-2022, 08:50 AM
Russia put in their demands but I think Ukraine are seeing lots of success so going to keep pushing back. It will all come down to what happens to the Donbas nowSaw on the news yesterday Korea promoting their new super nuke which can carry multiple warheads and can reach the US, can imagine Putin sitting in his bunker pissing himself laughing at that

Bostonhibby
26-03-2022, 09:12 AM
Saw on the news yesterday Korea promoting their new super nuke which can carry multiple warheads and can reach the US, can imagine Putin sitting in his bunker pissing himself laughing at thatWhat an image of the distant future that just threw up, Kim, Putin and Lukashenko all sitting in Pyong Yang Wetherspoons congratulating themselves on the time they thought they ruled the world.


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Bridge hibs
26-03-2022, 09:16 AM
What an image of the distant future that just threw up, Kim, Putin and Lukashenko all sitting in Pyong Yang Wetherspoons congratulating themselves on the time they thought they ruled the world.


Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkKim had a leather bomber jacket on with two of his generals and were walking out of a hangar with music playing, very Top Gun esque 🤣

Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 09:22 AM
It's all posturing he doesn't want flattened by the south, loves him luxury life to much. He should spend the money on the mass starvation happening every year in his nation

Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 10:03 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
The Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of #Ukraine reports the suicide of the commander of the 13th Tank Regiment of the 4th Tank Division of #Russia

went to pull tanks out of storage to put on the battlefield but the electronics have been stolen to sell the precious metals and the rest have engines removed etc. 10% appears to only be functioning and they have no idea how long it will take to be functional

Commander shot himself either to avoid prosecution for allowing it or in disgrace. Either way it looks like serious delays to get more tanks to the front line

Ozyhibby
26-03-2022, 10:03 AM
Kim had a leather bomber jacket on with two of his generals and were walking out of a hangar with music playing, very Top Gun esque [emoji1787]

https://twitter.com/holzprueghel/status/1507246865536151555?s=21&t=udcHlMDtnDJYEP6tkFr0Bg


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WhileTheChief..
26-03-2022, 10:31 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
The Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of #Ukraine reports the suicide of the commander of the 13th Tank Regiment of the 4th Tank Division of #Russia

went to pull tanks out of storage to put on the battlefield but the electronics have been stolen to sell the precious metals and the rest have engines removed etc. 10% appears to only be functioning and they have no idea how long it will take to be functional

Commander shot himself either to avoid prosecution for allowing it or in disgrace. Either way it looks like serious delays to get more tanks to the front line

Russia's 2 biggest arms manufacturers have already had to stop producing or fixing anything due to a lack of parts, >90% of which came from the west.

Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 01:52 PM
Andrej
@AndrejNkv

I am the very model of a Russian Major General
My standing in the battlefield is growing quite untenable
My forces, though equipped and given orders unequivocal
Did not expect the fight to be remotely this reciprocal
I used to have a tank brigade but now I have lost several
My fresh assaults are faltering with battleplans extemporal
I can't recover vehicles but farmers in a tractor can
It's all becoming rather reminiscent of Afghanistan
My ordnance is the best but only half my missiles make it there
I would have thought by now that we would be controllers of the air
But at the rate the snipers work my time here is ephemeral
I am the very model of a Russian Major General

greenginger
26-03-2022, 02:03 PM
I get the idea the Russians will pull back to defensive positions they think they can hold and wait till the end of the “ mud” season when they don’t half to rely on the road network to make advances.

That was my thoughts until reading about their tank reserves being nackered .

Hopefully the mud just does for them totally.

Ozyhibby
26-03-2022, 02:58 PM
I get the idea the Russians will pull back to defensive positions they think they can hold and wait till the end of the “ mud” season when they don’t half to rely on the road network to make advances.

That was my thoughts until reading about their tank reserves being nackered .

Hopefully the mud just does for them totally.

I think that this war only ends now when the Russian military is broken or Putin is out of power. There is zero chance that Ukraine concedes any territory now. Even if Zelensky wanted to, he couldn’t persuade his people. The Ukrainians are now in it for the long haul and the good thing for them is that the sanctions won’t be lifted until the last Russian soldier has left Ukraine.


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Jim44
26-03-2022, 03:02 PM
Andrej
@AndrejNkv

I am the very model of a Russian Major General
My standing in the battlefield is growing quite untenable
My forces, though equipped and given orders unequivocal
Did not expect the fight to be remotely this reciprocal
I used to have a tank brigade but now I have lost several
My fresh assaults are faltering with battleplans extemporal
I can't recover vehicles but farmers in a tractor can
It's all becoming rather reminiscent of Afghanistan
My ordnance is the best but only half my missiles make it there
I would have thought by now that we would be controllers of the air
But at the rate the snipers work my time here is ephemeral
I am the very model of a Russian Major General

Nothing like a bit of Gilbertovich and Sullivanovsky. Mind you I prefer Tchaikovsky.:greengrin

Stick
26-03-2022, 03:27 PM
:top marks
Andrej
@AndrejNkv

I am the very model of a Russian Major General
My standing in the battlefield is growing quite untenable
My forces, though equipped and given orders unequivocal
Did not expect the fight to be remotely this reciprocal
I used to have a tank brigade but now I have lost several
My fresh assaults are faltering with battleplans extemporal
I can't recover vehicles but farmers in a tractor can
It's all becoming rather reminiscent of Afghanistan
My ordnance is the best but only half my missiles make it there
I would have thought by now that we would be controllers of the air
But at the rate the snipers work my time here is ephemeral
I am the very model of a Russian Major General

Lendo
26-03-2022, 04:01 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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#Russia transfers troops to #Ukraine from #Georgia

The Washington Post writes about it with reference to a representative of the Pentagon. It probably refers to soldiers and equipment deployed in occupied #Abkhazia and South #Ossetia.

I wonder if Georgia is looking at this and wondering if they can reclaim South Ossetia given the disarray the Russian forces are in.

Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 04:25 PM
I wonder if Georgia is looking at this and wondering if they can reclaim South Ossetia given the disarray the Russian forces are in.

Was thinking the same. Although might wait until they are even weaker.

Hibrandenburg
26-03-2022, 04:46 PM
Was thinking the same. Although might wait until they are even weaker.Some speech from Biden there in Warsaw.

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Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 04:46 PM
Game changer Starstreak £100 million monster. Hopefully get trained up quick as this will give air superiority where its deployed

The Times
@thetimes
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Russian pilots will think twice about getting into their planes after British soldiers have trained Ukrainians to fire Starstreak anti-aircraft missiles, the British Army’s air defence commander says

Colonel Graham Taylor, who co-ordinates the ground-based air defence capability of the UK, said that the high-velocity weapon causes “catastrophic” damage to low-flying enemy fighter jets and helicopters

Taylor said that British troops were being deployed to a secret location in eastern Europe to teach Ukrainians how to use the portable system, which launches missiles capable of travelling at more than 2,000 mph

Starstreak splits into three “darts” in mid-air that tear through enemy aircraft after being laser-guided to a target by a soldier on the ground. 🎯

Taylor said that Starstreak was “catastrophic” and “potent

Would the system help 🇺🇦 to impose an effective no-fly zone? Taylor said he wasn't in a position to comment on the likelihood or not.

“But of course, yes, ground-based defence systems that are highly capable in 🇺🇦 will certainly have an effect and make 🇷🇺 think [about flying

The MoD is sending shoulder launchers and lightweight portable stand launchers to 🇺🇦, as well as Starstreak.

The UK is also deploying troops to Poland to operate the UK’s long-range Sky Sabre missile system, which will take down any enemy aircraft that fly into Polish airspace

Soldiers in the 7th Air Defence Group said it was possible to condense training into about a week, & their most skilled shooters could destroy 100 simulated targets every 2 hours.

Taylor said the Army had “sent a short-term training team to assist with training the Ukrainians

Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 04:53 PM
Biden to Russia: 'Don't even think about moving' on 'inch of NATO territory' -
@AFP

I'm sure he's not after not handling Ukraine

Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 05:08 PM
That's the second Holocaust memorial bombed by Russia. As well as killing a Holocaust surviver and sending mercenaries to kill Ukraine's Jewish president, Russia's denazification is certainly different

Dmytro Kuleba
@DmytroKuleba
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9m

Ukraine government official
This Menora in Drobytskyi Yar near Kharkiv never threatened anyone. It commemorates the memory of over 15.000 Jews murdered by Nazis. Damaged by Russian shelling today. Why Russia keeps attacking Holocaust Memorials in Ukraine? I expect Israel to strongly condemn this barbarism

Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 05:43 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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14m
⚡️Highlights from Biden's #Warsaw speech

📌 The West needs to prepare for the long struggle ahead between democracy and autocracy.

📌 The #Russians are cut off from the modern world. You were a country of the 21st century. Now you are a country of the 19th century

📌 The #Russian oligarchs are the architects of this war. We took everything from them.

📌 The Russians are not our enemies. Putin should not stay in power.

📌 #Europe must free itself from Russian energy carriers, the United States is ready to help in this

📌#Ukrainians have been fighting for their freedom for many centuries.

📌Putin has set himself a goal that he will not achieve.

📌 #US troops are in #Europe not to engage in hostilities with the armed forces of the Russian Federation

Kato
26-03-2022, 06:40 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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14m
[emoji298]️Highlights from Biden's #Warsaw speech

[emoji419] The West needs to prepare for the long struggle ahead between democracy and autocracy.

[emoji419] The #Russians are cut off from the modern world. You were a country of the 21st century. Now you are a country of the 19th century

[emoji419] The #Russian oligarchs are the architects of this war. We took everything from them.

[emoji419] The Russians are not our enemies. Putin should not stay in power.

[emoji419] #Europe must free itself from Russian energy carriers, the United States is ready to help in this

[emoji419]#Ukrainians have been fighting for their freedom for many centuries.

[emoji419]Putin has set himself a goal that he will not achieve.

[emoji419] #US troops are in #Europe not to engage in hostilities with the armed forces of the Russian FederationPretty straight to the point. This is a "project" long in the making and the destabilising aspects active in the West have to be called out for what they are and halted.

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Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 08:06 PM
Russia has stated that the Army of Azerbaijan has entered the zone in Armenia held by 2000 Russian “peacekeeping soldiers” in accordance with the Nagorno-Karabakh Ceasefire Agreement from November 2020.

Russia says it’s now moving troops to their initial positions

Source: Russia’s Defence Ministry

Stairway 2 7
26-03-2022, 08:10 PM
Anders Åslund
@anders_aslund
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1h
Ukraine now discusses how to denazify Russia after the war, drawing on lessons from the denazification of Germany. Right discussion! (In Ukrainian)
pravda.com.ua

Ozyhibby
26-03-2022, 08:45 PM
https://twitter.com/phillipspobrien/status/1507731839192023042?s=21&t=XkVDCPd7g_w1TdQ9b83KtQ

Looks like Russians are planning on retreating from Kyiv.


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Stairway 2 7
27-03-2022, 07:23 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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‼️ #Finland has closed railway border crossings between #Russia and Finland and stopped land freight traffic between the countries

Stairway 2 7
27-03-2022, 07:23 AM
Christopher Miller
@ChristopherJM
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Happening now on the frontline near the eastern city of Avdiivka, Russian forces are using white phosphorus against Ukrainians. 📸 Photos from a Ukrainian lieutenant taken in real-time moments ago as we spoke. He described the situation as “madness

Bridge hibs
27-03-2022, 07:38 AM
Christopher Miller
@ChristopherJM
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Happening now on the frontline near the eastern city of Avdiivka, Russian forces are using white phosphorus against Ukrainians. 📸 Photos from a Ukrainian lieutenant taken in real-time moments ago as we spoke. He described the situation as “madnessFfs, didnt Biden say Nato would respond if chemicals were used ? things taking another ugly turn for the worst

hibsbollah
27-03-2022, 07:41 AM
Christopher Miller
@ChristopherJM
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Happening now on the frontline near the eastern city of Avdiivka, Russian forces are using white phosphorus against Ukrainians. 📸 Photos from a Ukrainian lieutenant taken in real-time moments ago as we spoke. He described the situation as “madness

Ah, 'shake n bake'. Brutal stuff. Also easy to weasel out of being dragged up to the Hague because technically, its hard to prove you are using it as incendiary weapon, (legal) as opposed to a 'chemical weapon' (illegal). The civilians of Falluja didnt care what it was called back in 2004.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/22/usa.iraq1

Stairway 2 7
27-03-2022, 04:38 PM
Robin Brooks
@RobinBrooksIIF
An embargo of Russian energy would see Russia's GDP completely collapse. Our baseline forecast has GDP fall -30% by end-2022 and does NOT yet put a 100% weight on an energy stop. This number would be MUCH worse in the event of an embargo, making war harder to sustain for Putin

Stairway 2 7
27-03-2022, 04:41 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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BREAKING:

Macron is criticizing Biden for calling Putin “a butcher”. The French president says it’s not constructive.

“I would not use that kind of language. If a ceasefire is to be brokered, we must not escalate — neither through words nor actions

Stairway 2 7
27-03-2022, 04:44 PM
Dmitri Alperovitch
@DAlperovitch
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In today’s congratulatory message on Russia’s National Guard Day to Rosgvardiya, Putin referred to the troops involved in a special operation “on the territory of Donbas”

Yet another indication now from Putin directly that RU will spin the invasion of Ukraine as just a Donbas op

Stairway 2 7
27-03-2022, 04:51 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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The next round of negotiations between #Ukraine and #Russia will take place in #Turkey on March 28-30

Stairway 2 7
28-03-2022, 11:38 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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The #EU will remain dependent on Russian energy resources until at least 2027, the European Commission said

Stairway 2 7
28-03-2022, 12:16 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

The Main Directorate of Intelligence published the lists of #Russian intelligence officers operating in #Europe

The list consists of 620 FSB officers.

https://gur.gov.ua/content/sotrud


NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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1h
#Russian Ministry of Justice included Deutsche Welle in the register of foreign media agents

https://gur.gov.ua/content/sotrudnyky-fsb-rossyy-uchastvuiushchye-v-prestupnoi-deiatelnosty-stranyahressora-na-terrytoryy-evropy.html

Hibrandenburg
28-03-2022, 12:23 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

The Main Directorate of Intelligence published the lists of #Russian intelligence officers operating in #Europe

The list consists of 620 FSB officers.

https://gur.gov.ua/content/sotrud


NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·
1h
#Russian Ministry of Justice included Deutsche Welle in the register of foreign media agents

https://gur.gov.ua/content/sotrudnyky-fsb-rossyy-uchastvuiushchye-v-prestupnoi-deiatelnosty-stranyahressora-na-terrytoryy-evropy.htmlRussia had already closed the DW office back in early February.

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Stairway 2 7
28-03-2022, 02:20 PM
Hannah Lucinda Smith
@hannahluci
·

EXCLUSIVE: Roman Abramovic has held a series of meetings with Rustem Umerov, a Crimean Tatar and member of the Ukrainian parliament, in Istanbul in his role as an unofficial mediator in the conflict. My story in
@thetimes
today

Abramovic has also travelled to Moscow and Kyiv, where he has met with Putin and Zelensky, and passed messages between the two. The Istanbul talks are being overseen by Ibrahim Kalin, Erdogan's long-time spokesman

One of the proposals formulated in the meetings is for Crimea and the Donbas to be held by Moscow in a long-term lease, similar to Hong Kong before 97, and its status decided in a future referendum. Putin is considering the idea

Official talks between Russia and Ukraine are due to resume in Turkey this week, and Kalin's office has previously said that the two sides are moving closer to an agreement

Meanwhile Abramovic has moored his two yachts in Bodrum, and has so far avoided sanctions in both Turkey and the US, likely due to his mediator role

Ozyhibby
28-03-2022, 03:08 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220328/2aef0fd2afddd723385d1ce35380e5b3.jpg

https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o7btNRptqBgLSKR2w/giphy.gif


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Stairway 2 7
28-03-2022, 03:10 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220328/2aef0fd2afddd723385d1ce35380e5b3.jpg

https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o7btNRptqBgLSKR2w/giphy.gif


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Must have been to close to Zelensky for vlad

Stairway 2 7
28-03-2022, 03:13 PM
Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
·

The Mayor of Mariupol says that almost 5,000 people died in Mariupol since Russia sieged the city.

Stairway 2 7
28-03-2022, 04:07 PM
Must have been to close to Zelensky for vlad

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian peace negotiators suffered symptoms of suspected poisoning after a meeting in Kyiv earlier this month, people familiar with the matter said. - WSJ

A source with direct knowledge has just confirmed to me the WSJ/Bellingcat reports that Abramovich suffered symptoms of poisoning. "Roman lost his sight for several hours" and was treated in Turkey, the source said.

Stairway 2 7
28-03-2022, 04:13 PM
Natalia Krapiva 👩🏻*💻🕊
@natynettle
10/ Zelensky confirms several Russian oligarchs, including Abramovich, offered to send money to Ukrainian army, rebuild Ukraine, and move their businesses there. Zelensky says any Russian businessperson who is ready to support Ukrainian army will be offered security & job.

Keith_M
28-03-2022, 08:09 PM
Rishi Sunak now getting a lot of stick for his wife's shares in a company, founded by her Dad, that refuses to cut business links with Russia.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60876612

Stairway 2 7
28-03-2022, 08:12 PM
max seddon
@maxseddon
New details on Ukraine's ceasefire talks with Russia:

– Ukraine has to give up on Nato but will be free to join the EU
– Russia is no longer demanding "denazification"
– "demilitarization" and Russian language are not part of the possible deal either

In exchange for giving up its goal to join NATO, Ukraine gets to pursue the EU – and guarantees that sound a lot like NATO’s Article 5 by another name
25722
Rumours of a Polish, Ukraine, UK treaty being proposed

Stairway 2 7
28-03-2022, 08:20 PM
Roman Abramovich's eyesight “completely disappeared” after a suspected poisoning while in Ukraine for peace talks, I'm told.

“We did not identify the substance. No idea who was behind [the attack] — but it looks like Roman was the main target

Kato
29-03-2022, 12:08 AM
That Coast guy in full 'kettle whistling silly' mode. I thought R T was banned.


https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1508551073174278148?t=yw4E3LVUoRYffamv9weEMA&s=19

degenerated
29-03-2022, 06:06 AM
Roman Abramovich's eyesight “completely disappeared” after a suspected poisoning while in Ukraine for peace talks, I'm told.

“We did not identify the substance. No idea who was behind [the attack] — but it looks like Roman was the main targetWhat is it with Russia poisoning folk, they just can't seem to help themselves.
You'd definitely be taking your own piece if you were ever going for a meeting with them.

Stairway 2 7
29-03-2022, 06:44 AM
What is it with Russia poisoning folk, they just can't seem to help themselves.
You'd definitely be taking your own piece if you were ever going for a meeting with them.

😆

hibsbollah
29-03-2022, 06:48 AM
That Coast guy in full 'kettle whistling silly' mode. I thought R T was banned.


https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1508551073174278148?t=yw4E3LVUoRYffamv9weEMA&s=19

Neil Oliver is bloody brilliant.

Stairway 2 7
29-03-2022, 06:58 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·
21m
#Ukrainian delegation arrives for talks with #Russia in #Istanbul's Dolmabahce Palace.

Oligarch Roman #Abramovich, who acts as a mediator in the negotiations is also there.

Stairway 2 7
29-03-2022, 07:05 AM
See Biden is getting a lot of hassle for saying "he needs to go" about putin in his Warsaw speech, especially from Fox. He said he was expressing his moral outrage and not policy.

Surely they would rather have a president who after meeting refugees shows emotions and says this is wrong. Than Trump who thought Putin was a swell guy

Ozyhibby
29-03-2022, 07:21 AM
Neil Oliver is bloody brilliant.

Future Better Together 2 leading light.[emoji23]


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Kato
29-03-2022, 08:08 AM
Neil Oliver is bloody brilliant.He's not the full septum.

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Kato
29-03-2022, 08:09 AM
See Biden is getting a lot of hassle for saying "he needs to go" about putin in his Warsaw speech, especially from Fox. He said he was expressing his moral outrage and not policy.

Surely they would rather have a president who after meeting refugees shows emotions and says this is wrong. Than Trump who thought Putin was a swell guyApparently not.

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Stairway 2 7
29-03-2022, 08:12 AM
Darth putin is worth a follow 😆

Darth Putin
@DarthPutinKGB
Mar 27
Day 33 of my 3 day war. It's going so well I had to prove my defense minister hasn't been executed for botching the war.

I remain a master strategist

Darth Putin
@DarthPutinKGB
·
1h
Day 34 of my 3 day war. My army advances backwards, most of my agents are no longer secret & Abramovich has unfriended me on Facebook.

Stairway 2 7
29-03-2022, 08:21 AM
Russia loses a whole tank batallion

Henry Schlottman
@HN_Schlottman

The majority of T-80 losses tracked by @oryxspioenkop were from this unit, including, I believe, all 46 T-80U's lost

Trent Telenko
@TrentTelenko
·
6h
100% annihilation of a tank battalion takes a real lack of skill or an encirclement.

There was no encirclement

ronaldo7
29-03-2022, 09:38 AM
That Coast guy in full 'kettle whistling silly' mode. I thought R T was banned.


https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1508551073174278148?t=yw4E3LVUoRYffamv9weEMA&s=19

KGB News still operating. :rolleyes:

hibsbollah
29-03-2022, 10:14 AM
He's not the full septum.

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I would support a Thread dedicated to just Neil Oliver clips.

Kato
29-03-2022, 10:28 AM
I would support a Thread dedicated to just Neil Oliver clips.The Burniston guy had him to a tee. Had a look for clips a while back but there is nowt.

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Oscar T Grouch
29-03-2022, 10:36 AM
The Burniston guy had him to a tee. Had a look for clips a while back but there is nowt.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIVEtC9qcDs&t=2s

Kato
29-03-2022, 10:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIVEtC9qcDs&t=2sYeah, but there was more specific sketches - gag always ended with "It's all about meeee!"

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Oscar T Grouch
29-03-2022, 10:42 AM
Yeah, but there was more specific sketches - gag always ended with "It's all about meeee!"

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I do remember them but like you cannot find the clips, I found the clip above through a Daily Record article about Burnistoun.

Stairway 2 7
29-03-2022, 11:59 AM
Due to the attacking soldiers being deceased

max seddon
@maxseddon
· 3m
Russia’s deputy defense minister says Moscow has decided to “fundamentally cut back military activity in the direction of Kyiv and Chernigiv” in order to “increase mutual trust for future negotiations to agree and sign a peace deal with Ukraine

WhileTheChief..
29-03-2022, 12:03 PM
Lying Bs.

They're trying to regroup before having another go at Kiev.

Mutual trust? With Russia? Never gonna happen.

Ozyhibby
29-03-2022, 12:13 PM
Lying Bs.

They're trying to regroup before having another go at Kiev.

Mutual trust? With Russia? Never gonna happen.

I think Kyiv is of the menu now. They know it’s impossible. More likely want to transfer those troops to Donbas.


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Kato
29-03-2022, 12:15 PM
Lying Bs.

They're trying to regroup before having another go at Kiev.

Mutual trust? With Russia? Never gonna happen.Everything coming out of the Kremlin is a lie.

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18Craig75
29-03-2022, 12:53 PM
Lying Bs.

They're trying to regroup before having another go at Kiev.

Mutual trust? With Russia? Never gonna happen.

I’d agree. Looks like Mariupol is going to fall Imminently. When it does Russia will focus all its attention on encircling & cutting off all the UKR units left in the Donbas. When they’re cleared up they’ll have a lot of land to regroup from and possibly raise renewed attempts at other cities.

No doubt they’ve had a calamitous war, but the sheer weight of numbers is still on their side.

Stairway 2 7
29-03-2022, 12:58 PM
I’d agree. Looks like Mariupol is going to fall Imminently. When it does Russia will focus all its attention on encircling & cutting off all the UKR units left in the Donbas. When they’re cleared up they’ll have a lot of land to regroup from and possibly raise renewed attempts at other cities.

No doubt they’ve had a calamitous war, but the sheer weight of numbers is still on their side.

Mariupol will fall but its mental its no already as its miles behind the lines. The rest won't happen. Ukraine have pushed Russia to the border at lots of points in the east in the last few days. No chance of major encirclement, in fact Ukraine will probably take back sumy and Kharkiv. Russia has given up on Kyiv and Odesa due to masive troop loses

Ozyhibby
29-03-2022, 01:13 PM
Mariupol will fall but its mental its no already as its miles behind the lines. The rest won't happen. Ukraine have pushed Russia to the border at lots of points in the east in the last few days. No chance of major encirclement, in fact Ukraine will probably take back sumy and Kharkiv. Russia has given up on Kyiv and Odesa due to masive troop loses

If Russian moves its troops to the east then that will allow the Ukrainians to to do the same. Probably helps Ukraine more as they can stop Russians encircling their troops in Donbas.


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18Craig75
29-03-2022, 02:38 PM
Mariupol will fall but its mental its no already as its miles behind the lines. The rest won't happen. Ukraine have pushed Russia to the border at lots of points in the east in the last few days. No chance of major encirclement, in fact Ukraine will probably take back sumy and Kharkiv. Russia has given up on Kyiv and Odesa due to masive troop loses

I hope you’re right! Hard to trust anything coming out of Russia in terms of peace when only yesterday it’s been reported that a Hit Squad sent by Putin was detained trying to enter Ukraine.

greenginger
29-03-2022, 05:15 PM
See Biden is getting a lot of hassle for saying "he needs to go" about putin in his Warsaw speech, especially from Fox. He said he was expressing his moral outrage and not policy.

Surely they would rather have a president who after meeting refugees shows emotions and says this is wrong. Than Trump who thought Putin was a swell guy


Trump wasn’t the only one praising Putin.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/472808/SNP-leader-Alex-Salmond-Why-I-admire-Vladimir-Putin

Stairway 2 7
29-03-2022, 06:05 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

"A ceasefire agreement in #Ukraine will not be enough to lift #British sanctions against #Russia," - British Prime Minister Boris Johnson

Stairway 2 7
29-03-2022, 06:07 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·
BREAKING:

Poland has passed a new law banning coal imports from Russia.

Warsaw says it can’t wait any longer for an EU-level decision.

Poland was the 2nd-largest importer of Russian coal in the EU after GER.

Russia says that “relations with PL are moving toward zero”.

Stairway 2 7
29-03-2022, 06:14 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

#Britain arrested the #Russian yacht Phi worth about 50 million dollars

The yacht belongs to an unnamed Russian businessman. Transport Minister Grant Shapps stated that the man is not under sanctions, but has "close ties" with Putin

Stairway 2 7
29-03-2022, 06:15 PM
max seddon
@maxseddon
·

Medinsky says Russia doesn’t want to “put Kyiv at any military risk” because the “people who make the decisions” about peace talks are there.

Quite a change from all the missile strikes, huge convoy, and special forces hit squads sent to take out Zelensky

Ozyhibby
29-03-2022, 08:49 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

#Britain arrested the #Russian yacht Phi worth about 50 million dollars

The yacht belongs to an unnamed Russian businessman. Transport Minister Grant Shapps stated that the man is not under sanctions, but has "close ties" with Putin

Did nobody think to ask Grant Shapps why the **** a man with close ties to Putin wasn’t under sanctions?


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Stairway 2 7
29-03-2022, 09:01 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/phillipspobrien/status/1508799907913736195

Good thread on the Russians near Kyiv. That was there 1 chance at Kyiv and lost, don't have the army to try again. Russia wants ceasefire in the North but not south, that won't happen. Army will regroup to the south

18Craig75
29-03-2022, 09:21 PM
Military base/ammunition storage area has been hit within Russia. I’ve seen conflicting reports of it being a missile strike by Ukraine and other saying human error by the Russians.

Would mark a pretty bold change in Ukraines strategy if they’ve made strikes within Russia.

JimBHibees
30-03-2022, 05:53 AM
Military base/ammunition storage area has been hit within Russia. I’ve seen conflicting reports of it being a missile strike by Ukraine and other saying human error by the Russians.

Would mark a pretty bold change in Ukraines strategy if they’ve made strikes within Russia.

Would be very surprised if they did. Wouldn't rule out the Russians using it as propaganda even if human error on their part.

Hibrandenburg
30-03-2022, 06:31 AM
Got woken up by the sound of sirens in the village this morning. Most places in Germany have sirens that sound like the old air raid sirens and are used to alert the village voluntary fire brigade that they need to get to the firehouse ASAP. It gets tested every Wednesday afternoon but hearing it in the early hours of this morning was quite eerie bearing in mind what's happening a few hundred kilometres east of here. We have several refugees from Ukraine living here, I can only imagine what would have been going through their heads when they heard it.

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Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 07:03 AM
Got woken up by the sound of sirens in the village this morning. Most places in Germany have sirens that sound like the old air raid sirens and are used to alert the village voluntary fire brigade that they need to get to the firehouse ASAP. It gets tested every Wednesday afternoon but hearing it in the early hours of this morning was quite eerie bearing in mind what's happening a few hundred kilometres east of here. We have several refugees from Ukraine living here, I can only imagine what would have been going through their heads when they heard it.

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Surely they can do a group phonecall to the volunteers in this day and age rather than setting off a siren.

Hibrandenburg
30-03-2022, 07:09 AM
Surely they can do a group phonecall to the volunteers in this day and age rather than setting off a siren.They probably could and maybe do in addition. I'll have to ask my neighbour next time I see him.

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Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 07:18 AM
Read that 125 Ukrainian families are going to be housed in Bethlehem way. Would be good for hibs to get tickets to them as just round the corner.

Ozyhibby
30-03-2022, 07:58 AM
https://twitter.com/olivernmoody/status/1509065487484952584?s=21&t=CjRc2OXkE0vfcHL4tPhFmw

Who will blink first? Or will the gas get cut off?


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Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 08:18 AM
https://twitter.com/olivernmoody/status/1509065487484952584?s=21&t=CjRc2OXkE0vfcHL4tPhFmw

Who will blink first? Or will the gas get cut off?


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50% of their pre war export income was from gas, they aren't going to turn down cash for it even if in dollars

Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 08:37 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

#German chocolate manufacturer
@RITTER_SPORT_DE
will not stop supplying products to #Russia.

The #Russian market accounts for about 7% of the company's turnover. According to a representative of Ritter Sport, the decision to continue supplying was not an easy one

Ozyhibby
30-03-2022, 10:47 AM
50% of their pre war export income was from gas, they aren't going to turn down cash for it even if in dollars

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220330/370e545246d45aa33a6cfc947cd47193.jpg

Called it.[emoji23]


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Ozyhibby
30-03-2022, 10:48 AM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1509114445133455364?s=21&t=CjRc2OXkE0vfcHL4tPhFmw

Croatia stopping Oil from reaching Serbia.


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Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 10:52 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220330/370e545246d45aa33a6cfc947cd47193.jpg

Called it.[emoji23]


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And we thought our government were liars. At least they tell the truth 10% of the time, 10% more than the Kremlin

Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 10:54 AM
This should happen but won't, we'll all spend. Russia failing to take Ukraine who were pretty much on their own, should show NATO would swat Russia away

Phillips P. OBrien
@PhillipsPOBrien
This might be counter-intuitive, but the mediocre (to be kind) performance of the Russian military in Kyiv means that Europe and the USA do not need to rush out and spend billions more right away on their militaries. It means they have a window to plan for the future

They should do this properly. Learn the lessons of this conflict, not waste money on systems that could be of questionable value (tanks?), and take advantage of the significant security window Russia is giving them

There are a number of fundamental questions that need to be analyzed before we rush off to spend billions and billions. Even before looking at the war we need to start with these two

1) Why did so many militaries overestimate Russian capabilities? We need to know why the perception of how wars develop was so flawed

2) Why were Ukrainian capabilities so overlooked? We also need to break away from the Russo-centric understanding of this conflict to examine why so many missed what Ukraine was capable of doing

Then there would need to be a rigorous analysis of the war itself--and that will take time to get right. So not shoving lots of money into defense budgets now is the smarter choice

Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 11:12 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

The Spokesman of Ukraine’s Foreign Legion has said the largest groups of volunteers to fight in the legion are from the USA & Great Britain followed by Poland & Canada

Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 11:13 AM
When this is done and sanctions are lifted Russia will never be the same. Oil and gas a massive part of their economy. With the west moving to end reliance on it, there economy will be decimated for decades. If they originally just went for the Donbas they probably would have got away with it, terrible move

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·
8m
Poland's PM Mateusz Morawiecki just finished a press conference during which he announced a complete stop of Russian energy imports:

- No coal from April.

- No oil from December.

- No natural gas from December.

Poland spent USD 13.5 bn on energy imports from Russia in 2020.

Hibbyradge
30-03-2022, 11:35 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

The Spokesman of Ukraine’s Foreign Legion has said the largest groups of volunteers to fight in the legion are from the USA & Great Britain followed by Poland & Canada

I bet that none of them are really Special Forces...

Ozyhibby
30-03-2022, 11:55 AM
I bet that none of them are really Special Forces...

I’m almost certain that every western country has people on the ground in just about every area of Ukraine making sure we learn as much as possible about Russia’s military capability. It’s too good an opportunity to waste.


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Ozyhibby
30-03-2022, 12:03 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/30/germany-close-to-gas-rationing-as-it-activates-emergency-fuel-plan?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1648639786

Germany to ration gas supplies and Diesel to be rationed in the UK?


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Kato
30-03-2022, 12:06 PM
Among all the price increases coming down the line this one could be the worst.

https://www.farminguk.com/news/surge-in-fertiliser-prices-a-financial-nightmare-for-farmers_59543.html

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Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 12:17 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/30/germany-close-to-gas-rationing-as-it-activates-emergency-fuel-plan?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1648639786

Germany to ration gas supplies and Diesel to be rationed in the UK?


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I think the price of oil and gas around the world has everyone rationing or even being more conscious of usage. My family seem fine with the sleeping bags I've got them walking about the house in 😆

Hibbyradge
30-03-2022, 01:27 PM
I’m almost certain that every western country has people on the ground in just about every area of Ukraine making sure we learn as much as possible about Russia’s military capability. It’s too good an opportunity to waste.


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:agree:

Hibbyradge
30-03-2022, 01:27 PM
I think the price of oil and gas around the world has everyone rationing or even being more conscious of usage. My family seem fine with the sleeping bags I've got them walking about the house in 😆

Luxury...

Ozyhibby
30-03-2022, 01:39 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/london-arm-of-sanctioned-russian-bank-vtb-close-to-collapse-12578264

Big banking collapse about to start. Once one goes, others tend to follow as we saw in 2008.


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Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 01:43 PM
Luxury...

There's a monty python sketch there somewhere 😆

lapsedhibee
30-03-2022, 02:05 PM
There's a monty python sketch there somewhere 😆

Monty Python? You youngsters don't know you're born. We had Arthur Askey and Benny Hill.

makaveli1875
30-03-2022, 04:02 PM
I’m almost certain that every western country has people on the ground in just about every area of Ukraine making sure we learn as much as possible about Russia’s military capability. It’s too good an opportunity to waste.


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They must have learned enough in Syria , they use medieval tactics with modern weapons . They besiege , bomb , starve and terrorize civilians . Big tough guy Putin

Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 04:03 PM
Monty Python? You youngsters don't know you're born. We had Arthur Askey and Benny Hill.

You must have been rich and had a tv

Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 04:03 PM
max seddon
@maxseddon
·
50s
Lavrov says Ukraine and Russia have made “significant progress” and “positive movement” in peace talks.

He says Ukraine has “recognized the need” to give up on NATO – but also that Kyiv understands “the issues of Crimea and Donbas are settled for good

lapsedhibee
30-03-2022, 04:13 PM
You must have been rich and had a tv

:tsk tsk: It was a couple of empty jam jars to see Pathé News at The State on Great Junction Street (so yes, rich enough to eat jam).

Ozyhibby
30-03-2022, 04:16 PM
max seddon
@maxseddon
·
50s
Lavrov says Ukraine and Russia have made “significant progress” and “positive movement” in peace talks.

He says Ukraine has “recognized the need” to give up on NATO – but also that Kyiv understands “the issues of Crimea and Donbas are settled for good

There is zero chance Ukraine concede territory now. These sanctions are just about to really start hurting Russia and there are more on the way. Ukraine are winning this war right now and nobody winning a war ever gives away territory.


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cabbageandribs1875
30-03-2022, 04:18 PM
i hope after all this is over and the Devil has withdrawn his troops the Russians pay for the rebuild of every single structure they have destroyed, and more.


i read the other day it was presently at $540bn damage

CropleyWasGod
30-03-2022, 04:19 PM
:tsk tsk: It was a couple of empty jam jars to see Pathé News at The State on Great Junction Street (so yes, rich enough to eat jam).

Liar.

You stole the jam jars from my Granny.

Tink.

lapsedhibee
30-03-2022, 04:23 PM
Liar.

You stole the jam jars from my Granny.

Tink.

I didn't know she was anyone's granny. She never mentioned any grandchildren. You couldn't have visited much. I just thought she was an old, vulnerable woman who wouldn't miss them.

Renfrew_Hibby
30-03-2022, 04:33 PM
i hope after all this is over and the Devil has withdrawn his troops the Russians pay for the rebuild of every single structure they have destroyed, and more.


i read the other day it was presently at $540bn damage

Grozny was completely rebuilt from scratch, complete with a huge grand mosque, one of the largest in the world I believe. Honestly you would never know that an obliteration had taken place there.
However that was a relatively small city in a region of only a couple of million, the destruction in Ukraine is multiple times as much.

Hibbyradge
30-03-2022, 05:05 PM
There's a monty python sketch there somewhere 😆

Exactly 😊

Hibbyradge
30-03-2022, 05:06 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/london-arm-of-sanctioned-russian-bank-vtb-close-to-collapse-12578264

Big banking collapse about to start. Once one goes, others tend to follow as we saw in 2008.


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"If an insolvency of VTB Capital's London arm does take place, it would be the most significant collapse affecting the City so far to arise from Russia's war in Ukraine, although its failure would not have a meaningful impact on the UK financial system."

Ozyhibby
30-03-2022, 05:14 PM
"If an insolvency of VTB Capital's London arm does take place, it would be the most significant collapse affecting the City so far to arise from Russia's war in Ukraine, although its failure would not have a meaningful impact on the UK financial system."

I was meaning there could be collapses of banks in Russia. The balance sheets of banks there must be under a fair bit of duress right now.


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Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 05:32 PM
https://twitter.com/maryilyushina/status/1509205470925533192

Mary Ilyushina
@maryilyushina
Spoke to a woman who was forcibly taken from Mariupol to Russia (something that Moscow denies is happening.) She was processed at a ‘filtration camp’ along with ~900 people who were questioned, had their phone data copied and fingerprints taken

Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 05:35 PM
Kevin Rothrock
@KevinRothrock
·
Sitting in his gold-plated office, Chechen dictator Ramzan Kadyrov publicly criticizes Russian head negotiator Vladimir Medinsky for supposedly being too accommodating to Ukraine. The cracks are starting to show.

degenerated
30-03-2022, 05:35 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/30/germany-close-to-gas-rationing-as-it-activates-emergency-fuel-plan?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1648639786

Germany to ration gas supplies and Diesel to be rationed in the UK?


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Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 05:40 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

Prime Minister of the #Netherlands Mark Rutte: a peace agreement to the detriment of the territorial integrity of #Ukraine and its sovereignty will not lead to the automatic lifting of sanctions against #Russia

Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 05:49 PM
Marshall Cohen
@MarshallCohen
· 18h
NEW TODAY: Donald Trump brazenly called on Vladimir Putin to release any damaging info he's got about the Bidens. This isn't the first time Trump enlisted a foreign power to smear a political rival (Russia/2016, Ukraine/2019). Wasn't OK then, isn't OK now. https://cnn.com/2022/03/29/politics/trump-putin-hunter-biden/index.html

John Harwood
@JohnJHarwood
·
17h
another reminder of what has long been obvious:

in the war between Ukraine and Russia, between Western freedom and authoritarian aggression, Donald Trump is on the anti-American side

he's the former president,
but not only that

Trump is the leader of the Republican Party TODAY

Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 05:51 PM
There is zero chance Ukraine concede territory now. These sanctions are just about to really start hurting Russia and there are more on the way. Ukraine are winning this war right now and nobody winning a war ever gives away territory.


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Oleg Nikolenko
@OlegNikolenko_

Ukraine government official
·
Lavrov demonstrates misunderstanding of the negotiation process. The issues of Crimea and Donbas will be settled for good after Ukraine restores its sovereignty over them. During the talks in Istanbul, the Ukrainian delegation presented its proposals on how to achieve this goal

Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 06:46 PM
Jeff Seldin
@jseldin
NEW: US official confirms to
@VOANews
newly declassified intelligence finds that #Russia President Valdimir Putin has "felt misled by the Russian military"

"There is now persistent tension between Putin & the MOD [Ministry of Defense" per the official

US intel finds "#Putin didn’t even know his military was using & losing conscripts in #Ukraine" per a US official

US sees "a clear breakdown in the flow of accurate information to the Russian President" per the official

Putin's senior advisers "too afraid to tell him the truth" abt #Ukraine, US official confirms-based on newly declassified US intelligence

"Putin is being misinformed by his advisors abt how badly the #Russia|n military is performing & how the Russian economy is being crippled

Military analysts say Russia has reframed its war goals in Ukraine in a way that may make it easier for Putin to claim a face-saving victory despite a woeful campaign in which his army has suffered humiliating setbacks." https://reuters.com/world/putin-ad

Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 06:48 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·
29m
Scholz's office said Putin told the German Chancellor Europe could continue paying in euros.

In a phone call with Scholz, Putin said the money would be paid into Gazprom Bank and then transferred in rubles to Russia. The bank is not currently subject to sanctions

Stairway 2 7
30-03-2022, 07:05 PM
Kevin Rothrock
@KevinRothrock
·
The Russian govt “legalizes” “parallel imports”: the sale of goods without the permission of copyright holders. The list will include intellectual property like movies, music, software, and “inventions.” Russia goes from int’l pariah to PIRATE

Trent Telenko
All of this as far as Russia is concerned.

This is another big step down the path to becoming a larger North Korean pariah state

Ozyhibby
30-03-2022, 11:12 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1509287796065845250?s=21&t=w3wijn7IwnyeOWE3UQLtRw

Is it wrong to laugh at the stupidity?


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degenerated
31-03-2022, 06:50 AM
Quite an interesting piece on what Putin's intentions may be in Ukraine in NY Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/29/opinion/ukraine-war-putin.html

Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 07:56 AM
Quite an interesting piece on what Putin's intentions may be in Ukraine in NY Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/29/opinion/ukraine-war-putin.html

Can't compare it to grozny, they've been loosing soldiers in hours what they were loosing in weeks. There is no way he planned to lose a fifth of his soldiers and more than that of his tanks and airforce. He also won't have the money or the European components to replace them. There was also lots of detailed plans found with the fall of Kyiv and what to do after that.

I put up something yesterday which said that, saying Putin might not have wanted Kyiv is this years Biden didn't actually win the election. He guessed some analysts are saying maybe Putin didn't want Kyiv because, they all public said it would be over in 4 days. They miscalculated both Russia and Ukraine and got the war completely wrong.

If Russia used its full power on one front to take all of Donbass and a land bridge. It would all have been over weeks ago, probably without sanctions too sadly

Ozyhibby
31-03-2022, 08:03 AM
Quite an interesting piece on what Putin's intentions may be in Ukraine in NY Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/29/opinion/ukraine-war-putin.html

I find it hard to agree with that analysis. I can’t see sanctions being lifted until Russia has left Ukraine in total. I also don’t see any pressure at all on Zelensky to concede territory, in fact it appears that he is under more pressure not to.
As far as controlling energy resources, who is he going to sell it to? The EU market is closed for him now, probably forever. There is no way back there. The Germans are not now going to go back to where they were. The German people would not allow it. Decisions have been made and the EU is going to move to self sufficiency. That only leaves China and if you only have 1 buyer then you don’t have any price control. Russia would be at the mercy of China.
The hit the Russian economy is about to experience will be catastrophic. This is going to make Russia a lot weaker than it was.
I just don’t see how this could have been part of the plan.


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Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 08:56 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

#Japan has once again called the Southern #Kurils "illegally occupied".

J#apanese authorities have decided to return harsh language stating that the Southern Kurils "are an integral part of Japan and are currently illegally occupied by #Russia

Ozyhibby
31-03-2022, 08:59 AM
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1509446739387953153?s=21&t=yQHCLNFZGaJ0NSWmNFaD2A

Russians access to the internet is no longer unlimited.


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Ozyhibby
31-03-2022, 09:27 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

#Japan has once again called the Southern #Kurils "illegally occupied".

J#apanese authorities have decided to return harsh language stating that the Southern Kurils "are an integral part of Japan and are currently illegally occupied by #Russia

Now would be a good time for them to start some military exercises close by which will distract the Russians. We are already seeing Azerbaijani movement in their war v Armenia. Will the Georgians make a move to reclaim their land? How secure is Assad now that the Russians are busy elsewhere? And how secure is the Belorussian regime if the opposition there rise up?
Right now, almost everything is happening in Ukraine but the potential to spill over elsewhere is huge. And that’s without taking into account that a huge rise in food prices globally almost always results in the Middle East setting itself on fire. This is going to be a very interesting year.


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Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 09:37 AM
Now would be a good time for them to start some military exercises close by which will distract the Russians. We are already seeing Azerbaijani movement in their war v Armenia. Will the Georgians make a move to reclaim their land? How secure is Assad now that the Russians are busy elsewhere? And how secure is the Belorussian regime if the opposition there rise up?
Right now, almost everything is happening in Ukraine but the potential to spill over elsewhere is huge. And that’s without taking into account that a huge rise in food prices globally almost always results in the Middle East setting itself on fire. This is going to be a very interesting year.


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100% many nations will be looking at the weakness with interest. Also on the food prices, the last time grain shortages happened from Ukraine and Russia it caused the Arab spring. Unfortunately going to big news stories in the next few years as a knock on to this. Add on China will probably have huge amounts of lockdowns this year and its going to get volatile around the world

WhileTheChief..
31-03-2022, 09:55 AM
That only leaves China and if you only have 1 buyer then you don’t have any price control. Russia would be at the mercy of China.
The hit the Russian economy is about to experience will be catastrophic. This is going to make Russia a lot weaker than it was.
I just don’t see how this could have been part of the plan.


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You've nailed it right here, and in a post yesterday about them being like N Korea.

This is exactly what China wants. Russia will become solely reliant on China in much the same was as N Korea is. This gives China huge influence in Asia.

This has definitely woken the West up though. China has been at it for years, getting stronger and stronger whilst the West thought everything was fine.

As for Russia, they're shown that they aren't a superpower at all. I wouldn't be surprised to see China and Japan step up their claims on disputed territories with them.

Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 10:07 AM
Nathan Ruser
@Nrg8000
The Ukrainian city of Sumy came under attack at 3am on the first day of Russia's invasion. For most of the war, it has been practically besieged and regularly bombarded. Five weeks after the invasion began, Sumy is now reconnected by road to Poltava and the siege is lifted.

Ozyhibby
31-03-2022, 10:09 AM
https://www.cer.eu/publications/archive/bulletin-article/2022/europe-must-stop-paying-russias-war

Good article on the need to cut gas supply from Russia. At very least we should be putting tariffs on it.


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Ozyhibby
31-03-2022, 10:11 AM
Nathan Ruser
@Nrg8000
The Ukrainian city of Sumy came under attack at 3am on the first day of Russia's invasion. For most of the war, it has been practically besieged and regularly bombarded. Five weeks after the invasion began, Sumy is now reconnected by road to Poltava and the siege is lifted.

Given how close that is to the Russian border, that’s pretty impressive from the Ukraine army.


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Renfrew_Hibby
31-03-2022, 11:00 AM
You've nailed it right here, and in a post yesterday about them being like N Korea.

This is exactly what China wants. Russia will become solely reliant on China in much the same was as N Korea is. This gives China huge influence in Asia.

This has definitely woken the West up though. China has been at it for years, getting stronger and stronger whilst the West thought everything was fine.

As for Russia, they're shown that they aren't a superpower at all. I wouldn't be surprised to see China and Japan step up their claims on disputed territories with them.

China has claims over what they call Outer Manchuria - Russian territory - and Russia has claims over (inner) Manchuria, territory within China.
That would be very messy and complicated. China would just roll over Russia in my opinion.

Ozyhibby
31-03-2022, 11:49 AM
China has claims over what they call Outer Manchuria - Russian territory - and Russia has claims over (inner) Manchuria, territory within China.
That would be very messy and complicated. China would just roll over Russia in my opinion.

China’s military is largely untested as well so it might be more difficult than they think. The one thing everyone knows now though is that the Russian military is pretty useless.


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Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 12:17 PM
Eleanor Beardsley
@ElBeardsley
Incredible testimony on BFMTV from this mayor of Melitopol who was kidnapped for several days by the Russians. He says they had no idea what’s going on. They told him we’re here to get the Nazis - he said I’ve been in this town 30 years and I’ve never met one…. then they said

well we’re here to help the Russian speakers snd he said 95% of us speak Russian and we’re fine. They said they heard that the World War II veterans of the town had been beaten in the patriot day and he said au contraire they’re venerated and there’s not very many of them left.

It seems these Russian soldiers truly thought that. This entire war is being fought on propaganda - for false pretenses. Its not only Putin who doesn’t know what’s going on. This mayor, Ivan Fedorov, said the soldiers were completely unprepared and clueless

Ozyhibby
31-03-2022, 12:22 PM
Eleanor Beardsley
@ElBeardsley
Incredible testimony on BFMTV from this mayor of Melitopol who was kidnapped for several days by the Russians. He says they had no idea what’s going on. They told him we’re here to get the Nazis - he said I’ve been in this town 30 years and I’ve never met one…. then they said

well we’re here to help the Russian speakers snd he said 95% of us speak Russian and we’re fine. They said they heard that the World War II veterans of the town had been beaten in the patriot day and he said au contraire they’re venerated and there’s not very many of them left.

It seems these Russian soldiers truly thought that. This entire war is being fought on propaganda - for false pretenses. Its not only Putin who doesn’t know what’s going on. This mayor, Ivan Fedorov, said the soldiers were completely unprepared and clueless

How long before their military collapses? I can’t see how they can rotate troops and then expect reinforcement to come in?


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Ozyhibby
31-03-2022, 02:25 PM
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31-03-2022, 03:06 PM
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I would imagine the rouble isnt worth that much on exchange rates so is this a bad thing or will the price they want just reflect pounds/euros?

JeMeSouviens
31-03-2022, 03:26 PM
I would imagine the rouble isnt worth that much on exchange rates so is this a bad thing or will the price they want just reflect pounds/euros?

It forces foreign buyers to change their money into roubles, thereby propping up the rouble's exchange rate.

Ozyhibby
31-03-2022, 04:08 PM
It forces foreign buyers to change their money into roubles, thereby propping up the rouble's exchange rate.

I think they also want the money exchanged at the price the rouble was when the contracts were signed.
I would think this will be unacceptable to the EU and the gas will be turned off.


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Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 04:47 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

#Chinese corporation Huawei may face new sanctions from #Washington if it provides support to #Russia in the field of telecom - Financial Times

Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 04:49 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·
Joe Biden orders 'largest ever' delivery of oil from Strategic Petroleum Reserve to the US domestic market

Their volume will be 1 million barrels per day for 6 months.

The US will provide strategic stockpiles in coordination with allies around the world

Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 04:50 PM
Carl Dinnen
@carldinnen

Defence Secretary
@BWallaceMP
says long range artillery and armoured vehicles (although not tanks) will be supplied to Ukraine as a result of today's donor conference

Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 04:52 PM
That's the two Finish parties saying they want nato. The leader of the house said no referendum will be needed as every poll its clear the people want to join

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·
37m
BREAKING:

The parliamentary group of the Finns party, Finland’s 2nd-largest party, has just announced that they have decided to support NATO membership for Finland.

The party as a whole is likely to make the same decision during a party council scheduled for May 14-15

Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 05:39 PM
The game of chicken has begun

BNO News
@BNONews

Germany rejects Putin's demand to pay for gas in rubles, calling it an unacceptable breach of contract that amounts to blackmail - REU

Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 05:41 PM
Carla Babb
@CarlaBabbVOA
· 2h
#Russians have abandoned Hostomel airport, per sr. US defense official #UkraineUnderAttack #UkraineRussianWar

Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 05:41 PM
Guy Elster
@guyelster
·

#BREAKING Putin says the current contracts for the purchase of Russian gas will be suspended in the event of refusal to pay in Rubles, Western countries must open accounts in Russian banks

Ozyhibby
31-03-2022, 05:53 PM
Carla Babb
@CarlaBabbVOA
· 2h
#Russians have abandoned Hostomel airport, per sr. US defense official #UkraineUnderAttack #UkraineRussianWar

Apparently they have abandoned Chernobyl as well after all suffering radiation sickness.[emoji23]


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Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 06:13 PM
Apparently they have abandoned Chernobyl as well after all suffering radiation sickness.[emoji23]


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For a machismo nation, this constant embarrassment will be hard to take for them

Ozyhibby
31-03-2022, 06:22 PM
https://m.jpost.com/international/article-702841

Putin bringing in more conscripts.


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Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 06:55 PM
Wow

OSINTdefender
@sentdefender
· 1h
Japan has Officially Stated after negotiation between the two Countries since the end of WW2 recently entirely collapsed that the entire Kuril Island Chain is Japanese Sovereign Territory and is being Illegally Occupied by Russian Forces

Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 07:01 PM
https://twitter.com/hurryupharry/status/1509526151651213319

Harry's Place
@hurryupharry
THREAD

George Galloway has interviewed David Miller for his show Sputnik on Russian Propaganda channel RT

They spoke about Weapons of Mass Destruction and false flags in Ukraine and in Syria. Quotes are verbatim listen to whole videos for context

Galloway:
"Anyone who looks at the military map can see how far the Russians are from having their backs against the wall"

Miller:
"The Russians are not losing"
"Mariupol has more or less fallen"
"It's very clear the Russians are not losing"
"Russia has already won the war"

Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 07:06 PM
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
·

A few weeks ago, I mentioned on
@cnn
that 1 April is “new conscript day” in RU.

30 April is when 1 cohort of serving conscripts is released (don’t know what those #’s). Many are in UKR now.

If new draftees don’t go, RU is about to have a force regeneration issue

Kato
31-03-2022, 07:11 PM
The game of chicken has begun

BNO News
@BNONews

Germany rejects Putin's demand to pay for gas in rubles, calling it an unacceptable breach of contract that amounts to blackmail - REUHybrid war stepping up.

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HUTCHYHIBBY
31-03-2022, 07:52 PM
Apparently they have abandoned Chernobyl as well after all suffering radiation sickness.[emoji23]


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I've been there, nae side effects apart from losing my mullet. 😁

Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 08:46 PM
The EU’s response to Russia’s behaviour in 2014 was rather lukewarm. (…)

Although the embargo has been in place for almost eight years, until more than a year ago Putin and his army were still good customers of the European arms industry,

writes Czech MEP
@TomasZdechovsky

In short, the sanctions imposed on Russia have proved to be toothless, and the consequences of the completely misguided European policy of recent years can be felt first-hand.

The war in Ukraine has laid bare the mistakes that Europe has made writes MEP
@TomasZdechovsky

Stairway 2 7
31-03-2022, 09:36 PM
Svidomi
@Svidomi_En
·
🇯🇵The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Japan will now call the Kuril Islands a part of Japan occupied by the Russian Federation

On March 31, the Ministry of Defense published a draft of the diplomatic Bluebook of 2022, drawn up by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for the Northern Territories.

"This territory belongs to Japan but it had been illegally occupied by Russia", the message reads

Japan claimed that Russia must immediately withdraw its troops and abide by international law.

Hibrandenburg
31-03-2022, 10:19 PM
The EU’s response to Russia’s behaviour in 2014 was rather lukewarm. (…)

Although the embargo has been in place for almost eight years, until more than a year ago Putin and his army were still good customers of the European arms industry,

writes Czech MEP
@TomasZdechovsky

In short, the sanctions imposed on Russia have proved to be toothless, and the consequences of the completely misguided European policy of recent years can be felt first-hand.

The war in Ukraine has laid bare the mistakes that Europe has made writes MEP
@TomasZdechovskyAll this pish with the benefit of hindsight is like a 5er in the lottery for EU bashers.

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Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 06:12 AM
All this pish with the benefit of hindsight is like a 5er in the lottery for EU bashers.

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It's hardly hindsight. Even a literal bafoon could see this was crazy to be at the mercy of Russia. After crimea people still fired ahead with nord stream 2. Its costing Ukrainian lives now. We need to stop his oil sales like the article oz put up, they are so dependent on it

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/business/donald-trump-lashes-germany-over-gas-pipeline-deal-calls-it-russias-captive/videoshow/64946916.cms

Donald Trump lashes Germany over gas pipeline deal, calls it Russia's 'captive'
US President Donald Trump launched a sharp public attack on Germany on Wednesday for supporting a Baltic Sea gas pipeline deal with Russia, saying Berlin had become "a captive to Russia" and he criticised it for failing to raise defence spending more.
ET Now | 11 Jul 2018



Nord Stream 2: Trump approves sanctions on Russia gas pipeline
21 December 2019
President Donald Trump has signed a law that will impose sanctions on any firm that helps Russia's state-owned gas company, Gazprom, finish a pipeline into the European Union.

The sanctions target firms building Nord Stream 2, an undersea pipeline that will allow Russia to increase gas exports to Germany.

The US considers the project a security risk to Europe.

Both Russia and the EU have strongly condemned the US sanctions

Ozyhibby
01-04-2022, 06:59 AM
It's hardly hindsight. Even a literal bafoon could see this was crazy to be at the mercy of Russia. After crimea people still fired ahead with nord stream 2. Its costing Ukrainian lives now. We need to stop his oil sales like the article oz put up, they are so dependent on it

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/business/donald-trump-lashes-germany-over-gas-pipeline-deal-calls-it-russias-captive/videoshow/64946916.cms

Donald Trump lashes Germany over gas pipeline deal, calls it Russia's 'captive'
US President Donald Trump launched a sharp public attack on Germany on Wednesday for supporting a Baltic Sea gas pipeline deal with Russia, saying Berlin had become "a captive to Russia" and he criticised it for failing to raise defence spending more.
ET Now | 11 Jul 2018



Nord Stream 2: Trump approves sanctions on Russia gas pipeline
21 December 2019
President Donald Trump has signed a law that will impose sanctions on any firm that helps Russia's state-owned gas company, Gazprom, finish a pipeline into the European Union.

The sanctions target firms building Nord Stream 2, an undersea pipeline that will allow Russia to increase gas exports to Germany.

The US considers the project a security risk to Europe.

Both Russia and the EU have strongly condemned the US sanctions

I agree. It doesn’t need hindsight as plenty people were warning of it at the time. The fact is that German politicians were being bought to ensure they purchased Russian gas and UK politicians were being bought to turn a blind eye to all the money laundering. Both govts are struggling to wean themselves off that now.


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Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 07:10 AM
I agree. It doesn’t need hindsight as plenty people were warning of it at the time. The fact is that German politicians were being bought to ensure they purchased Russian gas and UK politicians were being bought to turn a blind eye to all the money laundering. Both govts are struggling to wean themselves off that now.


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Definitely, we're all complicit to this. If Russia took Ukraine in 3 days and there wasn't the mass bombing and refugees, we'd probably still be doing business now

Jack
01-04-2022, 07:13 AM
To be fair on Europe regarding Russian oil.

Donald Trump was/is as unhinged as Putin and about as unpredictable as an early morning fart!

Europe may not have done the right thing but it didn't necessarily do the wrong thing either.

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 07:19 AM
To be fair on Europe regarding Russian oil.

Donald Trump was/is as unhinged as Putin and about as unpredictable as an early morning fart!

Europe may not have done the right thing but it didn't necessarily do the wrong thing either.

It did do the wrong thing it depended on one nation. They should have spent big on renewables and did what France did and build nuclear. Profits and ease were too good with Russian oil and gas. Especially after crimea, they could have been self reliant by now if changed tack in 2004. Russia is so dependent on these revenues we all have to take the blame for the scenes in Mariupol. 800 million euros a day from European nations.

hibsbollah
01-04-2022, 07:21 AM
It's hardly hindsight. Even a literal bafoon could see this was crazy to be at the mercy of Russia. After crimea people still fired ahead with nord stream 2. Its costing Ukrainian lives now. We need to stop his oil sales like the article oz put up, they are so dependent on it

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/business/donald-trump-lashes-germany-over-gas-pipeline-deal-calls-it-russias-captive/videoshow/64946916.cms

Donald Trump lashes Germany over gas pipeline deal, calls it Russia's 'captive'
US President Donald Trump launched a sharp public attack on Germany on Wednesday for supporting a Baltic Sea gas pipeline deal with Russia, saying Berlin had become "a captive to Russia" and he criticised it for failing to raise defence spending more.
ET Now | 11 Jul 2018



Nord Stream 2: Trump approves sanctions on Russia gas pipeline
21 December 2019
President Donald Trump has signed a law that will impose sanctions on any firm that helps Russia's state-owned gas company, Gazprom, finish a pipeline into the European Union.

The sanctions target firms building Nord Stream 2, an undersea pipeline that will allow Russia to increase gas exports to Germany.

The US considers the project a security risk to Europe.

Both Russia and the EU have strongly condemned the US sanctions

If only a ‘baffoon’ could fail to see what was coming in terms of dependence on Russian natural gas, where we’re all the concerned threads on here about it prior to the invasion? Unless you are talking about the worlds dependence on fossil fuels per se, in which case that’s absolutely correct. Saudi has a free rein to cause a human rights disaster in Yemen with U.K. weaponry because we are addicted to their oil, the Uighurs languish in concentration camps because we need Chinese resources and electronics. But that’s a wider issue about consumption of finite resources, not a smoking gun to attack Europe with.

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 07:30 AM
If only a ‘baffoon’ could fail to see what was coming in terms of dependence on Russian natural gas, where we’re all the concerned threads on here about it prior to the invasion? Unless you are talking about the worlds dependence on fossil fuels per se, in which case that’s absolutely correct. Saudi has a free rein to cause a human rights disaster in Yemen with U.K. weaponry because we are addicted to their oil, the Uighurs languish in concentration camps because we need Chinese resources and electronics. But that’s a wider issue about consumption of finite resources, not a smoking gun to attack Europe with.

There's been multiple threads about our need to go green. We need to invest heavily in renewables but need another source as storage is expensive and I've been wanting nuclear well before this year. We shouldn't be reliant on Russia or Saudi, both barbaric. And I actually put a post up last year about the Uighars. There concentration camps and facial recognition and tracking systems.

Its not the EU bashing as France got it spot on. Its mainly Germany Holland Poland and Estonia. The last two have said we should take the hit and stop Russian gas this year, probably because they know they could be next

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 07:57 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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29m
#Canadian Prime Minister Justin #Trudeau is in favor of excluding #Russia from the #G20.
"We can't have business as usual, President Vladimir #Putin just sitting at the table with us, that would be extremely difficult for us and unproductive for the G20," the prime minister said

Ozyhibby
01-04-2022, 08:24 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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29m
#Canadian Prime Minister Justin #Trudeau is in favor of excluding #Russia from the #G20.
"We can't have business as usual, President Vladimir #Putin just sitting at the table with us, that would be extremely difficult for us and unproductive for the G20," the prime minister said

Besides, by the end of the year they probably won’t qualify as a G20 country.


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Ozyhibby
01-04-2022, 08:29 AM
https://twitter.com/markurban01/status/1509806201999081472?s=21&t=3J88Jc0fZmapIfrrbKUhiQ

Ukrainian Air Force strike a fuel depot inside Russia. Tells you all you need to know about how well this is going for Russia.


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Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 08:30 AM
Besides, by the end of the year they probably won’t qualify as a G20 country.


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Economy is now similar to Netherlands. Not a super power, neither are we though mind

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 08:31 AM
https://twitter.com/markurban01/status/1509806201999081472?s=21&t=3J88Jc0fZmapIfrrbKUhiQ

Ukrainian Air Force strike a fuel depot inside Russia. Tells you all you need to know about how well this is going for Russia.


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God, Kyiv in 3 days isn't going well after 4 weeks is it

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 08:37 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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1h
#Australia is going to send Bushmaster armored personnel carriers to #Ukraine.

It is noted that the decision to send military equipment was made after Vladimir #Zelenskyy's speech to the Australian government via video link on March 31.

Jack
01-04-2022, 08:55 AM
It did do the wrong thing it depended on one nation. They should have spent big on renewables and did what France did and build nuclear. Profits and ease were too good with Russian oil and gas. Especially after crimea, they could have been self reliant by now if changed tack in 2004. Russia is so dependent on these revenues we all have to take the blame for the scenes in Mariupol. 800 million euros a day from European nations.
All very well looking back in hindsight.

Maybe the Germans should have done the same as the UK. Get a unholy alliance between the French and Chinese to 100% own, build and operate a couple of [untested] nuclear reactors with a unit price to UK consumers set at a minimum which is higher than we're paying now despite the huge hikes.

Ozyhibby
01-04-2022, 08:58 AM
All very well looking back in hindsight.

Maybe the Germans should have done the same as the UK. Get a unholy alliance between the French and Chinese to 100% own, build and operate a couple of [untested] nuclear reactors with a unit price to UK consumers set at a minimum which is higher than we're paying now despite the huge hikes.

To be fair, I reckon the Germans would actually be capable of building them themselves.


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Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 09:05 AM
All very well looking back in hindsight.

Maybe the Germans should have done the same as the UK. Get a unholy alliance between the French and Chinese to 100% own, build and operate a couple of [untested] nuclear reactors with a unit price to UK consumers set at a minimum which is higher than we're paying now despite the huge hikes.

No sure why your trying to frame this as 2 choices uk or Germany when I said they are both wrong and both to blame. The vast majority should be renewable which Scotland did well. Then you need another source which should have been nuclear, which is expensive to set up but reasonably green.

It's not hindsight when people have been saying this for decades about the reliance on Russian oil. But we can't send 800 millions a day and prop up russias economy and war, then cry over cities flattened. Poland and Estonia are willing to take the hit and stop the purchase and they use the highest percentage from Russia

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 09:20 AM
Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
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The fact that the Ukrainian helicopters flew into Russia is notable. But it should not eclipse the far more consequential changes on the ground in Ukraine - which show a clear Russian retreat/rout, as well as Ukrainian counter-offensives

This is the cherry on top of the cake basically is what I am saying (don't miss the cake

Ozyhibby
01-04-2022, 09:33 AM
Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
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The fact that the Ukrainian helicopters flew into Russia is notable. But it should not eclipse the far more consequential changes on the ground in Ukraine - which show a clear Russian retreat/rout, as well as Ukrainian counter-offensives

This is the cherry on top of the cake basically is what I am saying (don't miss the cake

I’m sure I read last night that it’s now 8 days in a row where Ukraine has retaken more territory than it’s lost.[emoji106]


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Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 09:46 AM
Robert Smith
@BondHack
💥⛵️FINANCIAL TIMES YACHT HUNTERS SCORE BIG ⛵️💥

Antigua has established that two yachts moored there belong to Roman Abramovich, confirming our reports that that the vessels appeared to be owned by the sanctioned oligarch

It now raises the prospect that the yachts — called Halo and Garçon — could be seized.

The boats are worth around $38m and $20m respectively

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 09:49 AM
max seddon
@maxseddon
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Gérard Dépardieu, who once received a Russian passport from Putin personally and praised him for years, now denounces Russia’s "crazy and unacceptable excesses" in Ukraine.

No word yet on what fellow Russian passport recipient Steven Seagal thinks

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 09:50 AM
@guyelster
#BREAKING Lavrov says #Russia is preparing a response to #Ukraine's proposals, says there is a "movement forward". He adds taht Russia has seen "much more understanding" of the situation in Crimea and Donbass from the Ukrainian side

Hibrandenburg
01-04-2022, 09:54 AM
No sure why your trying to frame this as 2 choices uk or Germany when I said they are both wrong and both to blame. The vast majority should be renewable which Scotland did well. Then you need another source which should have been nuclear, which is expensive to set up but reasonably green.

It's not hindsight when people have been saying this for decades about the reliance on Russian oil. But we can't send 800 millions a day and prop up russias economy and war, then cry over cities flattened. Poland and Estonia are willing to take the hit and stop the purchase and they use the highest percentage from RussiaGermany has had a snowballing anti-nuclear movement since the 60's. Any German government after Kohl would never have been elected without pledges to reduce the reliance on nuclear power. After the fall of the wall the pressure to get rid of traditional dirty power sources increased dramatically when it became obvious what the environmental cost was in the former East, whole forests dying from pollution and towns and cities blackened out with poisonous dust and ash knee high on the ground.

The move away from nuclear and dirty energy was necessary and the political will of most Germans forced their politicians to cut their cloth accordingly. That combined with the post war German need to have closer ties rather than conflict with a nation that a previous German generation had basically raised to the ground meant that closer economical and political ties with Russia was a no-brainer for most contemporary Germans. Was there voices warning of dangers of putting all their eggs in one basket? Yes of course there was but isn't there always contrary opinions in a democratic society where contrary opinions mean votes and votes mean power. Add to that that gas was always intended to be a stopgap measure until renewable energy could replace fossil and nuclear power then the decisions made in the past seemed sensible at the time, with hindsight it's easy to see that that decision might have been flawed but it was at least made for all the right reasons.

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hibsbollah
01-04-2022, 10:02 AM
max seddon
@maxseddon
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Gérard Dépardieu, who once received a Russian passport from Putin personally and praised him for years, now denounces Russia’s "crazy and unacceptable excesses" in Ukraine.

No word yet on what fellow Russian passport recipient Steven Seagal thinks

A bit late from odious creature Depardieu, also his main complaint against the war is about implimentation of it not the morality of it. Fascist rapist.

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 10:13 AM
A bit late from odious creature Depardieu, also his main complaint against the war is about implimentation of it not the morality of it. Fascist rapist.

Just Googled some stuff about him. Christ repugnant

Ozyhibby
01-04-2022, 10:36 AM
https://twitter.com/ua_industrial/status/1509836235115749384?s=21&t=3J88Jc0fZmapIfrrbKUhiQ
More balls of steel.


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Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 11:30 AM
Are they kidding, we can bomb you with impunity

Liveuamap
@Liveuamap
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Kremlin says Ukraine air strike on Russia will hinder talks https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/1-april-kremlin-says-ukraine-air-strike-on-russia-will-hinder via @AFP #Ukraine

Oryx
@oryxspioenkop
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1h
Please note that this air strike comes after Russia had claimed it had neutralised the Ukrainian Air Force. In addition to losing precious fuel, this is also a significant PR blunder for Russia

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 11:41 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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1h
Norway’s PM Jonas Gahr Støre tried to appeal to Putin’s conscience during a phone call today by emphasizing how many Russians have lost their lives in Ukraine.

The PM said “10-20% of your soldiers have been killed or wounded”

Putin: “there are casualties in military conflicts

superfurryhibby
01-04-2022, 11:44 AM
No sure why your trying to frame this as 2 choices uk or Germany when I said they are both wrong and both to blame. The vast majority should be renewable which Scotland did well. Then you need another source which should have been nuclear, which is expensive to set up but reasonably green.

It's not hindsight when people have been saying this for decades about the reliance on Russian oil. But we can't send 800 millions a day and prop up russias economy and war, then cry over cities flattened. Poland and Estonia are willing to take the hit and stop the purchase and they use the highest percentage from Russia

Nuclear energy and it's green credentials...https://www.citizen.org/article/nuclear-power-is-not-clean-or-green/.

I think we can safely say that it isn't very green.

Smartie
01-04-2022, 11:54 AM
Nuclear energy and it's green credentials...https://www.citizen.org/article/nuclear-power-is-not-clean-or-green/.

I think we can safely say that it isn't very green.

'Now the Bush administration wants to..."

Is there any chance that things might have moved on over the past couple of decades?

(I'm saying this from a position of ignorance, I don't know. I always thought it was an uncomfortable truth that nuclear power was a great way of creating (!!!!) lots of energy, but that the radioactive waste which remains toxic for ages and ages was a problematic side effect that wasn't easily overcome.)

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 12:05 PM
Nuclear energy and it's green credentials...https://www.citizen.org/article/nuclear-power-is-not-clean-or-green/.

I think we can safely say that it isn't very green.

The argument seems to be it takes a decade of operation before it produces net energy, but wind only takes one year. No one is saying it should replace renewable it should the gas and oil we use thus compared against them.

Unfortunately storing energy is too expensive just now. So Scotland creates the equivalent of 100% of our energy from renewables, but only 56% of the energy we used was renewable.

Hibby70
01-04-2022, 12:15 PM
Just watched 6 planes flying in formation I assume up to Leuchars. Never seen that before.

stu in nottingham
01-04-2022, 12:16 PM
The PM said “10-20% of your soldiers have been killed or wounded”

Putin: “there are casualties in military conflicts

There certainly are.

Thank god this is only a training exercise.

Moulin Yarns
01-04-2022, 12:49 PM
Just watched 6 planes flying in formation I assume up to Leuchars. Never seen that before.

2 tornado fighters just passed pitlochry.

Moulin Yarns
01-04-2022, 12:54 PM
The argument seems to be it takes a decade of operation before it produces net energy, but wind only takes one year. No one is saying it should replace renewable it should the gas and oil we use thus compared against them.

Unfortunately storing energy is too expensive just now. So Scotland creates the equivalent of 100% of our energy from renewables, but only 56% of the energy we used was renewable.

A friend of mine is off- grid.



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WhileTheChief..
01-04-2022, 12:57 PM
Nuclear energy and it's green credentials...https://www.citizen.org/article/nuclear-power-is-not-clean-or-green/.

I think we can safely say that it isn't very green.

Based on that 1 article?

Nah.

They would have us living in wood cabins and wearing hemp if it was up to them.

Moulin Yarns
01-04-2022, 01:16 PM
Based on that 1 article?

Nah.

They would have us living in wood cabins and wearing hemp if it was up to them.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14619830-600-lid-blown-off-dounreays-lethal-secret/amp/

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2011/sep/21/scottish-nuclear-leak-clean-up

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-30143655.amp

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/2221691/revealed-radiation-leaked-from-storage-drum-at-dounreay-earlier-this-year/



Aye, all on our own doorstep!

Even our next door neighbour has had problems.


https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2012/mar/11/sellafield-stories-book-nuclear-accident

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sellafield-cumbria-nuclear-accident-whistleblower-panorama-cumbria-investigation-radioactive-plutonium-uranium-a7226991.html?amp

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 01:27 PM
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14619830-600-lid-blown-off-dounreays-lethal-secret/amp/

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2011/sep/21/scottish-nuclear-leak-clean-up

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-30143655.amp

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/2221691/revealed-radiation-leaked-from-storage-drum-at-dounreay-earlier-this-year/



Aye, all on our own doorstep!

Even our next door neighbour has had problems.


https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2012/mar/11/sellafield-stories-book-nuclear-accident

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sellafield-cumbria-nuclear-accident-whistleblower-panorama-cumbria-investigation-radioactive-plutonium-uranium-a7226991.html?amp

Even the article says a nuclear plant can be responsible for 12 deaths from radiation over 12 years. If we don't stop burning fossil fuels it'll be a lot more. And your pal is in a privileged position good on them, but they aren't storing a countries fuel needs. Hopefully technology improves so Scotland can go from 55% renewable for our fuel use too 100%

greenginger
01-04-2022, 01:41 PM
Even the article says a nuclear plant can be responsible for 12 deaths from radiation over 12 years. If we don't stop burning fossil fuels it'll be a lot more. And your pal is in a privileged position good on them, but they aren't storing a countries fuel needs. Hopefully technology improves so Scotland can go from 55% renewable for our fuel use too 100%


https://www.scottishrenewables.com/our-industry/statistics

Along way to go I think.

Electricity accounts for less than 25% of our energy use. Heating over 50% of energy use, and I would say the vast majority is gas .

Moulin Yarns
01-04-2022, 01:51 PM
Even the article says a nuclear plant can be responsible for 12 deaths from radiation over 12 years. If we don't stop burning fossil fuels it'll be a lot more. And your pal is in a privileged position good on them, but they aren't storing a countries fuel needs. Hopefully technology improves so Scotland can go from 55% renewable for our fuel use too 100%

The question was whether nuclear energy is green, and here is an article comparison of different generation forms.


https://amp.dw.com/en/fact-check-is-nuclear-energy-good-for-the-climate/a-59853315

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 01:53 PM
the Scottish Government estimates that, in 2020, 56% of the electricity consumed in Scotland came from renewable sources, 30% from nuclear and 13% from fossil fuels

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 01:57 PM
The question was whether nuclear energy is green, and here is an article comparison of different generation forms.


https://amp.dw.com/en/fact-check-is-nuclear-energy-good-for-the-climate/a-59853315

No it's not. Comparing it to renewables is pointless. It would be great if we were 100% renewable but we aren't. The comparison is against fossil fuels, as one needs to be our second source

WhileTheChief..
01-04-2022, 03:05 PM
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14619830-600-lid-blown-off-dounreays-lethal-secret/amp/

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2011/sep/21/scottish-nuclear-leak-clean-up

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-30143655.amp

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/2221691/revealed-radiation-leaked-from-storage-drum-at-dounreay-earlier-this-year/



Aye, all on our own doorstep!

Even our next door neighbour has had problems.


https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2012/mar/11/sellafield-stories-book-nuclear-accident

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sellafield-cumbria-nuclear-accident-whistleblower-panorama-cumbria-investigation-radioactive-plutonium-uranium-a7226991.html?amp


Only read the first link, reporting on a story from 1977.

45 years you're going back to score a point ffs.

Everyone knows nuclear fuel is greener than fossil fuels.

Nobody is suggesting it's greener than renewables.

Ozyhibby
01-04-2022, 03:22 PM
Only read the first link, reporting on a story from 1977.

45 years you're going back to score a point ffs.

Everyone knows nuclear fuel is greener than fossil fuels.

Nobody is suggesting it's greener than renewables.

Nuclear fuel is one of the safest there is. Far safer than coal or gas.
I don’t think it’s right for Scotland because of all the other good options we have and it’s very expensive but it is an option that other countries including England should be looking at.


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Lendo
01-04-2022, 03:39 PM
Only read the first link, reporting on a story from 1977.

45 years you're going back to score a point ffs.

Everyone knows nuclear fuel is greener than fossil fuels.

Nobody is suggesting it's greener than renewables.

Also, whenever anyone cites ***ushima as a non-nuclear argument it’s worth pointing out that it was a first generation nuclear power plant in the process of being decommissioned. Another newer station was also hit on the same stretch of coast and never came close to a meltdown.

Hibrandenburg
01-04-2022, 03:54 PM
Also, whenever anyone cites ***ushima as a non-nuclear argument it’s worth pointing out that it was a first generation nuclear power plant in the process of being decommissioned. Another newer station was also hit on the same stretch of coast and never came close to a meltdown.The problem is that first, second and third generation nuclear power plants still produce radioactive waste that will still be radioactive long after the containers they're kept in have degraded. I'd be happy with the thought of nuclear power if we had a solution for the waste, but we just keep kicking the can down the road.

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Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 03:59 PM
Nuclear fuel is one of the safest there is. Far safer than coal or gas.
I don’t think it’s right for Scotland because of all the other good options we have and it’s very expensive but it is an option that other countries including England should be looking at.


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30% of Scotlands power comes from nuclear 15% from fossil fuels. Until renewable can be stored easier I think nuclear would be good to replace that fossil. The rolls Royce small nuclear power plants are exciting. UK if approved will start to build 16 in the next 5 years, each powers 1 million homes. They are under 2 billion each and last almost 70 years

lapsedhibee
01-04-2022, 04:08 PM
The problem is that first, second and third generation nuclear power plants still produce radioactive waste that will still be radioactive long after the containers they're kept in have degraded. I'd be happy with the thought of nuclear power if we had a solution for the waste, but we just keep kicking the can down the road.


:agree: Well, let's just dump it all in the sea and eat radioactive fish suppers forevermore/there'll be a vaccine against radioactivity coming along any day now.

Moulin Yarns
01-04-2022, 04:39 PM
30% of Scotlands power comes from nuclear 15% from fossil fuels. Until renewable can be stored easier I think nuclear would be good to replace that fossil. The rolls Royce small nuclear power plants are exciting. UK if approved will start to build 16 in the next 5 years, each powers 1 million homes. They are under 2 billion each and last almost 70 years

UK government figures have Scotland generated energy figures, and nuclear is a lot less than 30% in 2020. Not sure where you got 30%.

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 04:46 PM
UK government figures have Scotland generated energy figures, and nuclear is a lot less than 30% in 2020. Not sure where you got 30%.

From Scottish government

https://fullfact.org/environment/scotland-renewable-energy/

In fact, the Scottish Government estimates that, in 2020, 56% of the electricity consumed in Scotland came from renewable sources, 30% from nuclear and 13% from fossil fuels.

Renewables still account for far more of Scotland’s electricity consumption than in England and Wales.

But to suggest it's almost 100% is misleading.

The Scottish Government told Full Fact the First Minister was referring to Scotland’s gross electricity consumption and it was not her intention to suggest otherwise.

A Scottish Government spokesperson said: “Scotland has a hugely positive story to tell in renewables, which provided the equivalent of 96% of Scotland’s gross electricity consumption in 2020."

Jack
01-04-2022, 07:15 PM
Remember Scotland produces hydro power for the grid and could produce more.

I'm_cabbaged
01-04-2022, 07:52 PM
Another thread that’s went way off course

Glory Lurker
01-04-2022, 07:57 PM
Another thread that’s went way off course

Yep.

Green Reaper
01-04-2022, 08:08 PM
So, the Russians are claiming it was a Ukrainian attack on the fuel depot in Russia but Ukraine are saying it wasn’t them and there is nothing to substantiate what truly happened, correct?

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 08:11 PM
Barry

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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Bloomberg Economics expects Russia will earn nearly $321 billion from energy exports this year, an increase of more than a third from 2021.

It’s also on track for a record current-account surplus that the Institute of International Finance says may reach as high as high as $240 billion.

The conclusion is simple:

The West must halt the flow of Russian oil and gas which is literally fuelling the Russian invasion of Ukraine

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 08:19 PM
Would she have bought cheap goods made in nazi concentration camps

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

I would put my country’s interest first, I would put my energy security first.

If the fuel is available at a discount, why shouldn’t I buy it?,"

says India's finance minister Nirmala Sitharaman

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 08:31 PM
Nathan Ruser
@Nrg8000
·
8h
Russian forces around Kyiv are retreating en masse, leaving behind wrecked armour and possibly trapped pockets of troops as the Ukrainian army advances.

This map shows settlements confirmed recaptured today (blue) and yesterday (yellow).

The siege of Chernihiv is also lifted.
25731

Moulin Yarns
01-04-2022, 08:58 PM
From Scottish government

https://fullfact.org/environment/scotland-renewable-energy/

In fact, the Scottish Government estimates that, in 2020, 56% of the electricity consumed in Scotland came from renewable sources, 30% from nuclear and 13% from fossil fuels.

Renewables still account for far more of Scotland’s electricity consumption than in England and Wales.

But to suggest it's almost 100% is misleading.

The Scottish Government told Full Fact the First Minister was referring to Scotland’s gross electricity consumption and it was not her intention to suggest otherwise.

A Scottish Government spokesperson said: “Scotland has a hugely positive story to tell in renewables, which provided the equivalent of 96% of Scotland’s gross electricity consumption in 2020."

We are talking at cross purposes. You are talking about consumption when I'm talking about generation. 👍

Stairway 2 7
01-04-2022, 09:06 PM
We are talking at cross purposes. You are talking about consumption when I'm talking about generation. 👍

Ah yeah. We generate 100% equivalent in renewables, hopefully some day 100% use will be, I'm confident it will