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JimBHibees
10-03-2022, 01:49 PM
The cheapest source of energy right now is on shore wind. We need to end the ban on that.


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Didn't realise there was a ban on that?

PeeJay
10-03-2022, 02:05 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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For the first time in history, Russia is now Europe’s poorest country.

The latest statistics show that the average salary brutto has fallen to USD 436, well below Moldova (USD 491) and Ukraine (485 USD).

Putin has wiped out 20 years of economic growth in terms of GDP in 2 weeks

Isn't Russia actually a rich country? It's people are poor, but that's not the same ...

Renfrew_Hibby
10-03-2022, 02:13 PM
Isn't Russia actually a rich country? It's people are poor, but that's not the same ...

Yeah there's no other country that has the range and quantity of natural resources that they have.
The people have never seen the returns though.

JeMeSouviens
10-03-2022, 02:14 PM
Isn't Russia actually a rich country? It's people are poor, but that's not the same ...

GDP per capita was around $10K before this all kicked off - cf Germany $50K, UK $45K.

WhileTheChief..
10-03-2022, 02:19 PM
Not only are they a poor country, we're also now discovering that their military is nowhere near as strong as they make out.

They are losing this big-time.

Once Putin is gone, I wonder if Russia will break up into its regions or if mini-federations will be formed. I can't see it carrying on in its current form.

Since90+2
10-03-2022, 02:27 PM
Not only are they a poor country, we're also now discovering that their military is nowhere near as strong as they make out.

They are losing this big-time.

Once Putin is gone, I wonder if Russia will break up into its regions or if mini-federations will be formed. I can't see it carrying on in its current form.

I don't think that would work for massive areas of the country. I don't know this but I'm guessing the economy is massively weighted to the Moscow region, the outlying regions probably have very little in terms of economic output.

Ozyhibby
10-03-2022, 02:31 PM
https://twitter.com/kevinrothrock/status/1501935395092631556?s=21

Russia starting to nationalise all the businesses that have left Russia.


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Kato
10-03-2022, 02:33 PM
I don't think that would work for massive areas of the country. I don't know this but I'm guessing the economy is massively weighted to the Moscow region, the outlying regions probably have very little in terms of economic output.Their economy is massively weighted to the London region.

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Keyser Sauzee
10-03-2022, 02:41 PM
Not only are they a poor country, we're also now discovering that their military is nowhere near as strong as they make out.

They are losing this big-time.

Once Putin is gone, I wonder if Russia will break up into its regions or if mini-federations will be formed. I can't see it carrying on in its current form.

I’ve got a horrible feeling that Putin might be deliberately failing with the troops he’s sent so far to lull the rest into a false sense of security. I’ve nothing to back this up just a fear more than anything.

Oscar T Grouch
10-03-2022, 02:46 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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Russia’s Defence Ministry has accused Georgia of hosting bio-labs working on a project in which bats are to be turned into carriers of biological weapons.

Russia claims that Georgia is working on the project together with the U.S. and Ukraine

The Russian talk of bio weapons should worry people as their MO is to accuse others of what they are doing, so I could see a bio attack on Ukraine with the Russian saying, "See we hit their bio labs" where in fact they have launch an attack themselves.

Hibernian Verse
10-03-2022, 02:55 PM
The Russian talk of bio weapons should worry people as their MO is to accuse others of what they are doing, so I could see a bio attack on Ukraine with the Russian saying, "See we hit their bio labs" where in fact they have launch an attack themselves.

Realistically, they are only able to kid their own people. Everyone else can see what's happening.

WhileTheChief..
10-03-2022, 02:57 PM
I’ve got a horrible feeling that Putin might be deliberately failing with the troops he’s sent so far to lull the rest into a false sense of security. I’ve nothing to back this up just a fear more than anything.

I think I saw on the news last night that he has already committed 90% of their troops to this conflict and they are pretty much all in Ukraine already.

It's not him deliberately failing. It's that he doesn't get told what is actually happening from those in his inner circle. They're too scared. Happens to all dictators in the end.

As for the rest of the country, up until Putin's reign, they had a fair bit of autonomy. It was only really their foreign policy that was controlled by Moscow. He ripped all that up of course.

There's swathes of that country that don't even see themselves as Russian, they have far more in common with China or Mongolia for example.

It's just that here in the west, we think of Russia as being Moscow or St Petersberg!

Renfrew_Hibby
10-03-2022, 03:02 PM
Not only are they a poor country, we're also now discovering that their military is nowhere near as strong as they make out.

They are losing this big-time.

Once Putin is gone, I wonder if Russia will break up into its regions or if mini-federations will be formed. I can't see it carrying on in its current form.

Interesting. If Putin is gone then the Caucasus could well break up as they tried to do in the 90s. The vast Siberian region of Yakutia is very independent minded but Putin has kept them sweet for years as that region is immensely rich in mineral wealth. And the far east of Russia has previous for this when they tried and failed to form there own break away country during the turbulent revolutionary period. In fact this notion has been raised again in the last couple of years after Putin jailed the democratically elected governor of Khabarovsk and replaced him with his own choice from Moscow (Moscows like 4,000 miles away from Khabarovsk) bassically because the locals rejected the United Russia party candidate.

Renfrew_Hibby
10-03-2022, 03:08 PM
I don't think that would work for massive areas of the country. I don't know this but I'm guessing the economy is massively weighted to the Moscow region, the outlying regions probably have very little in terms of economic output.

It's the vast far flung regions that hold the oil, the gas and the mineral wealth, Moscow sucks it all up from these regions, imagine the difference it could make if they kept the returns generated from their own resources?
It's a bit like the 'its Scotlands oil' but on a grand scale.

WhileTheChief..
10-03-2022, 03:09 PM
Interesting. If Putin is gone then the Caucasus could well break up as they tried to do in the 90s. The vast Siberian region of Yakutia is very independent minded but Putin has kept them sweet for years as that region is immensely rich in mineral wealth. And the far east of Russia has previous for this when they tried and failed to form there own break away country during the turbulent revolutionary period. In fact this notion has been raised again in the last couple of years after Putin jailed the democratically elected governor of Khabarovsk and replaced him with his own choice from Moscow (Moscows like 4,000 miles away from Khabarovsk) bassically because the locals rejected the United Russia party candidate.


It would be fantastic if this happened.

Putin's demise will also send a clear message to the other dictator *******s around the world that they're not untouchable.

Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 03:16 PM
I think I saw on the news last night that he has already committed 90% of their troops to this conflict and they are pretty much all in Ukraine already.

It's not him deliberately failing. It's that he doesn't get told what is actually happening from those in his inner circle. They're too scared. Happens to all dictators in the end.

As for the rest of the country, up until Putin's reign, they had a fair bit of autonomy. It was only really their foreign policy that was controlled by Moscow. He ripped all that up of course.

There's swathes of that country that don't even see themselves as Russian, they have far more in common with China or Mongolia for example.

It's just that here in the west, we think of Russia as being Moscow or St Petersberg!

They have 100% of their regular army inside Ukraine. They are now bringing in reservists to plug the gap in the loses. They only admitted this after so many reservists were killed, they promised they wouldn't use reservists.

I've seen it said the problem is Russia tries to keep an army the size of the US, with a economy smaller than Italy

WhileTheChief..
10-03-2022, 03:27 PM
For decades they managed to convince the world they were a major superpower. They've now shown us they are practically third world when it comes to their military.

Putin doesn't have any cards left to play, it's only a matter of time.

Ozyhibby
10-03-2022, 03:30 PM
They have 100% of their regular army inside Ukraine. They are now bringing in reservists to plug the gap in the loses. They only admitted this after so many reservists were killed, they promised they wouldn't use reservists.

I've seen it said the problem is Russia tries to keep an army the size of the US, with a economy smaller than Italy

And at some point soon the troops will need rotated. Not sure how he’s going to manage that.


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Hibernian Verse
10-03-2022, 03:31 PM
And at some point soon the troops will need rotated. Not sure how he’s going to manage that.


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Don't think that is an option anymore. Their morale must be so low and every solider, mother, father, brother, sister, son & daughter will be having an epiphany, realising the lies they have been sold.

JeMeSouviens
10-03-2022, 03:40 PM
For decades they managed to convince the world they were a major superpower. They've now shown us they are practically third world when it comes to their military.

Putin doesn't have any cards left to play, it's only a matter of time.

Hmmm, they may not have rolled across Ukraine and taken Kiev in days, but they are still advancing, albeit slowly, and they still have overwhelming numbers, not to mention aerial bombardment to throw at the problem.

I think in football terms it's a bit like when we go to Ibrox and are 1-0 up: you still expect the red card, dodgy penalty, spawny winner off Alfredo's backside to come eventually. :rolleyes:

We are not hearing much about Ukrainian losses because they are owning the info war but they are bound to be happening.

Obviously I hope a Ukrainian Sproule like triumph can eventually be achieved but I wouldn't put money on anything other than weeks and months grinding on as it's currently going.

JeMeSouviens
10-03-2022, 03:41 PM
They have 100% of their regular army inside Ukraine. They are now bringing in reservists to plug the gap in the loses. They only admitted this after so many reservists were killed, they promised they wouldn't use reservists.

I've seen it said the problem is Russia tries to keep an army the size of the US, with a economy smaller than Italy

It's not even volunteer reservists, it's conscripts I think?

Aldo
10-03-2022, 04:10 PM
It's not even volunteer reservists, it's conscripts I think?

Think you are right. Conscripts with Zero military experience………

If Putin thinks he can stroll into Kyiv I think he really is in for a shock!

I wonder how many troops Ukraine have in Kyiv?? 50k more??

Urban warfare however we all know he’s just going to shell the place (if he has any left that is)


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Moulin Yarns
10-03-2022, 04:11 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60686254


Probably the first sign of humanity from priti Patel

PeeJay
10-03-2022, 04:16 PM
For decades they managed to convince the world they were a major superpower. They've now shown us they are practically third world when it comes to their military.

Putin doesn't have any cards left to play, it's only a matter of time.

Are you sure? He hasn't used his precision-guided weapons yet, chemical weapons, nor his tactical nuclear bombs and then there's the strategic ones: I think in military terms they are indeed a superpower- why do you think nobody wants to get involved in a fight against Russia?
You seem far too optimistic and gung-ho about Russia to me - this is a long way from being finished and Putin is not going anywhere soon ... Russia is making significant inroads into the South of Ukraine, and at some point Kiev will be fully surrounded and then the logistics issue will become a problem for the Ukrainians?

Hibs4185
10-03-2022, 04:34 PM
Didn't know that about the law on seizing assets. I share your thoughts on "thankfully " 😄

100% agree. Everyone crying out to seize assets….it would not be a very democratic country if the government could just seize your assets Willy Nilly.

WhileTheChief..
10-03-2022, 04:37 PM
Think you are right. Conscripts with Zero military experience………

If Putin thinks he can stroll into Kyiv I think he really is in for a shock!

I wonder how many troops Ukraine have in Kyiv?? 50k more??

Urban warfare however we all know he’s just going to shell the place (if he has any left that is)


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Radio 5 was reporting that Kiev is basically a fortress now with 2m people inside defending it.

There's not a hope in hell that Putin is taking that city.

All he is doing is sending thousands of Russians to their death in their equivalent of going over the top.

SteveHFC
10-03-2022, 04:38 PM
https://twitter.com/ITVBorderRB/status/1501542514037526529?s=20&t=6V4uyiiBVqUMFTa0Y817CA



NEW: Nicola Sturgeon says NATO shouldn't rule out No Fly Zone over Ukraine.


FM 'shares concerns' about risk of direct military confrontation, but says should be considered on 'day to day basis'.


'Perhaps only thing' nuclear weapons are deterring is 'proper help' for Ukraine

Aldo
10-03-2022, 04:40 PM
Radio 5 was reporting that Kiev is basically a fortress now with 2m people inside defending it.

There's not a hope in hell that Putin is taking that city.

All he is doing is sending thousands of Russians to their death in their equivalent of going over the top.

Indeed. I watched an interview at the end of last week with a ret. Lt Col in the US and he specialised in Urban Warfare. Whilst he didn’t say it outright those in Kyiv have been provided with information/assistance in how to best set up the city! Basically like you say, it’s a fortress!


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Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 04:42 PM
Are you sure? He hasn't used his precision-guided weapons yet, chemical weapons, nor his tactical nuclear bombs and then there's the strategic ones: I think in military terms they are indeed a superpower- why do you think nobody wants to get involved in a fight against Russia?
You seem far too optimistic and gung-ho about Russia to me - this is a long way from being finished and Putin is not going anywhere soon ... Russia is making significant inroads into the South of Ukraine, and at some point Kiev will be fully surrounded and then the logistics issue will become a problem for the Ukrainians?

He's no precision guided missiles that's why his fighter jets are getting blootered all over the place, they need to fly low. They aren't third world but clearly not a super power.

They have been using tanks from the 1970s and dozens of civilian vehicles to transport supplies, that's second rate. They have numbers although that's been decimated also.

They thought they could take Ukraine with its small army by speed in a few days but now they are in a nightmare.

I reckon they can take Kiev but no way they can hold Ukraine, they will eventually run out of men and supplies and no money to replenish

WhileTheChief..
10-03-2022, 04:42 PM
100% agree. Everyone crying out to seize assets….it would not be a very democratic country if the government could just seize your assets Willy Nilly.

It's what's happening in Russia now!!

WhileTheChief..
10-03-2022, 04:48 PM
Are you sure? He hasn't used his precision-guided weapons yet, chemical weapons, nor his tactical nuclear bombs and then there's the strategic ones: I think in military terms they are indeed a superpower- why do you think nobody wants to get involved in a fight against Russia?
You seem far too optimistic and gung-ho about Russia to me - this is a long way from being finished and Putin is not going anywhere soon ... Russia is making significant inroads into the South of Ukraine, and at some point Kiev will be fully surrounded and then the logistics issue will become a problem for the Ukrainians?

Not gung-ho in the slightest, it's way too serious for that.

I don't think Russia is nearly as strong as we seem to think they are. If they were, why are things going so slowly for them?

None of their troops know why they're fighting. They are literally driving into towns, getting told to piss off by locals, then scratching their heads as to what to do next.

The sanctions will bite. It will take time but how do you fight a war with no resources? You can't.

Ukraine will soon be better armed than Russia probably.

PeeJay
10-03-2022, 04:49 PM
He's no precision guided missiles that's why his fighter jets are getting blootered all over the place, they need to fly low. They aren't third world but clearly not a super power.

They have been using tanks from the 1970s and dozens of civilian vehicles to transport supplies, that's second rate. They have numbers although that's been decimated also.

They thought they could take Ukraine with its small army by speed in a few days but now they are in a nightmare.

I reckon they can take Kiev but no way they can hold Ukraine, they will eventually run out of men and supplies and no money to replenish


Yeah, I don't really know, I read this morning he had them and was just not using them yet and his planes are being shot out of the sky because Ukraine isn't Syria and these Ukrainian guys know what they're doing and have better missile launchers? I'm adjusting from being a Covid" expert to now being a military expert, haven't quite got then hang of it yet perhaps ....:greengrin

Hibrandenburg
10-03-2022, 04:54 PM
It would be fantastic if this happened.

Putin's demise will also send a clear message to the other dictator *******s around the world that they're not untouchable.The problem with your average dictator *******s is that they tend to be people who don't learn from history.

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Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 05:01 PM
Yeah, I don't really know, I read this morning he had them and was just not using them yet and his planes are being shot out of the sky because Ukraine isn't Syria and these Ukrainian guys know what they're doing and have better missile launchers? I'm adjusting from being a Covid" expert to now being a military expert, haven't quite got then hang of it yet perhaps ....:greengrin

Alot of people are saying he's next to nothing left and they would be flying much higher if they had them, also not missing so many targets?

Michael Weis 🌻🇺🇸🇮🇪@michaeldweis
In two weeks, Russia has used up "a lot of their precision-guided missiles, a valuable commodity in their arsenal

Considering they are sending in Su-34s (High value) and having them drop FAB-250/500 unguided bombs is probably a good indication that it is "most". Using "dumb bombs" requires you to get closer and is putting that valuable plane at greatest risk



This was pre war
Rob Lee
@RALee85
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Feb 24
Russia has a very effective aerial, naval, and ground fires capability but it lacks large stockpiles of precision-guided munitions, which is why a ground offensive appears to have begun soon after the first strikes. Russia has every incentive to move as fast as possible

Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 05:01 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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Russia will change its conscription rules

The new law will make it possible to summons people for conscription by their registered mail address.

If they then don’t come to the recruiting office on their own, it will be considered a criminal offense punishable by prison.

Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 05:09 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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Western Union suspending operations in #Russia and #Belarus

NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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"Formula-1" is leaving #Russia

The motor-racing series broke its contract with Match TV a week before the start of the new season, and also banned access from Russia to its online service F1 TV Pro

Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 05:11 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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Former German Chancellor Schröder is in Moscow to meet Russian Putin as part of a mediation effort.

Schröder has come under fierce criticism for refusing to sever his close ties to Moscow.

He has insisted on keeping his senior roles at Kremlin-linked energy giants

Ozyhibby
10-03-2022, 05:12 PM
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Sir David Gray
10-03-2022, 05:15 PM
All broadcasts of Scottish football in Russia will be suspended immediately due to the ongoing invasion of Ukraine, the SPFL and Scottish FA have said.

A deal with Russian sports channel Match TV includes coverage of the Scottish Cup and all SPFL competitions.

The move comes after the English FA and Premier League enforced the same action on Russia earlier this week.

In a statement, the Scottish FA and SPFL confirmed the measures will be in place "for the foreseeable future".

"As a result, there will be a blackout of Scottish Cup fixtures from this weekend's quarter-finals," they added.

Prior to the suspension, there was usually one Scottish match each week shown on Russian television.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60681147

Since90+2
10-03-2022, 05:18 PM
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Is that across all 27 nations though? I don't think you can do a direct comparison.

Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 05:20 PM
All broadcasts of Scottish football in Russia will be suspended immediately due to the ongoing invasion of Ukraine, the SPFL and Scottish FA have said.

A deal with Russian sports channel Match TV includes coverage of the Scottish Cup and all SPFL competitions.

The move comes after the English FA and Premier League enforced the same action on Russia earlier this week.

In a statement, the Scottish FA and SPFL confirmed the measures will be in place "for the foreseeable future".

"As a result, there will be a blackout of Scottish Cup fixtures from this weekend's quarter-finals," they added.

Prior to the suspension, there was usually one Scottish match each week shown on Russian television.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60681147

Should make the *******s watch hibs

lapsedhibee
10-03-2022, 05:22 PM
.it would not be a very democratic country if the government could just seize your assets Willy Nilly.

Shirley it would be entirely democratic if that's what voters wanted.

lapsedhibee
10-03-2022, 05:23 PM
Is that across all 27 nations though? I don't think you can do a direct comparison.

You think the total should be divided by 27 to get a proper comparison? :confused:

Since90+2
10-03-2022, 05:26 PM
Should make the *******s watch hibs

Think that would definitely push Putin over the edge.

Ozyhibby
10-03-2022, 05:27 PM
Is that across all 27 nations though? I don't think you can do a direct comparison.

Eh? Surely everyone they sanction could be on our list as well? Or do we see it as an opportunity to bring some more dirty cash into London?


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Since90+2
10-03-2022, 05:31 PM
Eh? Surely everyone they sanction could be on our list as well? Or do we see it as an opportunity to bring some more dirty cash into London?


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I'm simply saying we are talking about a bloc of 27 nations rather than a single state. Is everyone the EU bloc have sanctioned carrying out business in the UK? I genuinely don't know, but I think we need to dig a little deeper to get a true understanding of it.

lapsedhibee
10-03-2022, 05:33 PM
I'm simply saying we are talking about a bloc of 27 nations rather than a single state. Is everyone the EU bloc have sanctioned carrying out business in the UK? I genuinely don't know, but I think we need to dig a little deeper to get a true understanding of it.

Not that deep. The current government is corrupt. That's it.

Santa Cruz
10-03-2022, 05:34 PM
Eh? Surely everyone they sanction could be on our list as well? Or do we see it as an opportunity to bring some more dirty cash into London?


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Is it only London? There was someone saying earlier it's all over the UK. No idea who it was sorry.

Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 05:35 PM
Does this not stop the companies coming back in post war. Also if a say volvo factory they won't be able to make volvos unless they are going down the counterfeit route

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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Putin announces that Russia will start a nationalization campaign.

Foreign companies that cease operations in the country can expect their properties to be seized and placed under “external management

CropleyWasGod
10-03-2022, 05:36 PM
100% agree. Everyone crying out to seize assets….it would not be a very democratic country if the government could just seize your assets Willy Nilly.

My "thankfully " was more about gratitude for Government not being involved in running commercial businesses. Their record isn't great 😉

One Day Soon
10-03-2022, 05:39 PM
All broadcasts of Scottish football in Russia will be suspended immediately due to the ongoing invasion of Ukraine, the SPFL and Scottish FA have said.

A deal with Russian sports channel Match TV includes coverage of the Scottish Cup and all SPFL competitions.

The move comes after the English FA and Premier League enforced the same action on Russia earlier this week.

In a statement, the Scottish FA and SPFL confirmed the measures will be in place "for the foreseeable future".

"As a result, there will be a blackout of Scottish Cup fixtures from this weekend's quarter-finals," they added.

Prior to the suspension, there was usually one Scottish match each week shown on Russian television.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60681147


If we want to pressure the Russians we should probably threaten to broadcast more Scottish football coverage at them. A St Johnstone game every night until they desist.

Since90+2
10-03-2022, 05:43 PM
Is it only London? There was someone saying earlier it's all over the UK. No idea who it was sorry.

It will be massively concentrated in the City of London I'd imagine but wouldn't be surprised if it's connected all over the UK.

Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 05:52 PM
@GrecianFormul
We have sent 17,000 various types of anti-tank weapons into #Ukraine. #Russia only has 12,000 tanks or armoured vehicles IN ITS ENTIRE MILITARY

Since90+2
10-03-2022, 05:53 PM
@GrecianFormul
We have sent 17,000 various types of anti-tank weapons into #Ukraine. #Russia only has 12,000 tanks or armoured vehicles IN ITS ENTIRE MILITARY

Is that NATO? It's not clear from the post.

Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 05:53 PM
rent Telenko
@TrentTelenko


Nobody, I repeat, nobody got the Russian corruption right.

It's like Saddam's WMD's.

Saddam told lies so effectively from the top everyone, including defectors & Western intelligence believed them.

Same, same, with Putin's Potemkin Village Military

Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 05:55 PM
Is that NATO? It's not clear from the post.

Yes think uk has sent 4000 nlaws alone and sending 3000 more

Kato
10-03-2022, 06:03 PM
Yes think uk has sent 4000 nlaws alone and sending 3000 moreThat's a lot of money being spent on UK arms. Shareholders will be delighted....ish.

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Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 06:10 PM
That's a lot of money being spent on UK arms. Shareholders will be delighted....ish.

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There mainly made by saab in sweeden with components in the uk. The Ukrainians will be more delighted and the Russians furious . In fact the Ukrainians love them so much they have called them saint NLAW
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Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 06:20 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60693166

Amazing article from reporter on the ground, war is horrible

Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 06:23 PM
Edgars Rinkēvičs
@edgarsrinkevics
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From now on the official address of the Russian embassy in Riga will be - 2 Street of Ukrainian Independence, Riga. Riga City Council so decided this afternoon

Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 06:25 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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Sony has closed their PlayStation Stores in Russia, and will discontinue the supply of consoles to Russia.

Nintendo and Xbox are also out

Lendo
10-03-2022, 06:46 PM
Edgars Rinkēvičs
@edgarsrinkevics
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From now on the official address of the Russian embassy in Riga will be - 2 Street of Ukrainian Independence, Riga. Riga City Council so decided this afternoon

I would very much like to see a campaign to rename Melville Street to Ukraine Street, even just temporarily.

Renfrew_Hibby
10-03-2022, 06:49 PM
All broadcasts of Scottish football in Russia will be suspended immediately due to the ongoing invasion of Ukraine, the SPFL and Scottish FA have said.

A deal with Russian sports channel Match TV includes coverage of the Scottish Cup and all SPFL competitions.

The move comes after the English FA and Premier League enforced the same action on Russia earlier this week.

In a statement, the Scottish FA and SPFL confirmed the measures will be in place "for the foreseeable future".

"As a result, there will be a blackout of Scottish Cup fixtures from this weekend's quarter-finals," they added.

Prior to the suspension, there was usually one Scottish match each week shown on Russian television.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60681147

The Murmansk Loyal will be raging. Flabbergasted infact.

Jack
10-03-2022, 07:09 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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Sony has closed their PlayStation Stores in Russia, and will discontinue the supply of consoles to Russia.

Nintendo and Xbox are also out

I'm surprised EA Games and the like haven't been under pressure to stop their online games from being played there. Maybe I missed it. The one I play has only withdrawn the Russian flag from its platform and Russian named bots.

Kato
10-03-2022, 07:11 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNfi_48XwAMOa3J?format=jpg&name=small

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Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 07:27 PM
I'm surprised EA Games and the like haven't been under pressure to stop their online games from being played there. Maybe I missed it. The one I play has only withdrawn the Russian flag from its platform and Russian named bots.
Ea the makers of fortnight and grand theft have stopped online playing in Russia previously I think.

With no netflix tik tok ect the kids have been sent back 20 years

Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 07:33 PM
If this continues in 20 years time Russia will be like Havana, with motors from decades past everywhere

NEXTA@nexta_tv·

Car manufacturer Stellantis (Maserati, Chrysler, Opel, Dodge, Peugeot, etc.) suspends car exports to and imports from #Russia

Kato
10-03-2022, 07:41 PM
With no netflix tik tok ect the kids have been sent back 20 years

Weird 3xp3rim3nt there.

What will take the place of social media? Putins mal-information bots? The Nazis were able to fill the German populations heads full of crap when it was far easier. They had full control of what was in the newspapers, cinema and on radio.

It's a huge vacuum for a generation to whom socials are just part of the norm.

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CropleyWasGod
10-03-2022, 07:47 PM
Weird 3xp3rim3nt there.

What will take the place of social media? Putins mal-information bots? The Nazis were able to fill the German populations heads full of crap when it was far easier. They had full control of what was in the newspapers, cinema and on radio.

It's a huge vacuum for a generation to whom socials are just part of the norm.

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They'll get outside and play fitba in the street. Russia will win the WC in 2042 🙂

Paulie Walnuts
10-03-2022, 07:47 PM
Ea the makers of fortnight and grand theft have stopped online playing in Russia previously I think.

With no netflix tik tok ect the kids have been sent back 20 years

EA don’t make GTA I don’t think?

Stairway 2 7
10-03-2022, 07:59 PM
EA don’t make GTA I don’t think?

Sorry there should have been commas ea plus rockstar and the fortnight makers, angra bird makers rovio too

Radium
10-03-2022, 08:23 PM
https://twitter.com/sommervilletv/status/1502000265490227206?s=21

BBC report from Kharkiv. Graphic in places.


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Ozyhibby
10-03-2022, 08:36 PM
I would very much like to see a campaign to rename Melville Street to Ukraine Street, even just temporarily.

Seems a bit soft. What about ‘Putin is a **** Street’?


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Haymaker
10-03-2022, 08:48 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNfi_48XwAMOa3J?format=jpg&name=small

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That's brilliant:faf:

majorhibs
10-03-2022, 09:15 PM
This has been getting engineered by the US for the last few weeks. Between this and the fact the US is able to release 90 million barrels of its oil reserves, is why the US can stop buying Russian oil this month

OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical
·
UAE Ambassador Al Otaiba: “We favor production increases and will be encouraging OPEC to consider higher production levels

This is an announcement I have been expecting for some time, the US has been doing a lot of back room dealing on this issue

Not great news for Russia as they had probably anticipated using oil as a major wedge issue

If ye’d worked in oil industry for last 35 odd yrs youda noticed like me last 10 years been US totally tryin expanding & pretty much wiping out worldwide competition, kindae like they realised it only had a finite life left & they wanted it all themselves, at the expense of all else. Been pretty obv recently, last 5 certainly.

JeMeSouviens
10-03-2022, 09:57 PM
They'll get outside and play fitba in the street. Russia will win the WC in 2042 🙂

Their economy’s heading down the pan already. :wink:

Ozyhibby
10-03-2022, 11:10 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1502001711589830657?s=21

Tempting offer?


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cabbageandribs1875
11-03-2022, 12:51 AM
interesting :confused: 'Boris Johnson would nuke Scotland after independence', Russian Embassy bizarrely claims | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/19981389.boris-johnson-nuke-scotland-independence-russian-embassy-bizarrely-claims/?fbclid=IwAR299zOehyz3TwXYe3SouEJEzpzA9TMggScVCWIT 5SoB0tbjMoDGPIRgiks)

“At the same time, all Scots have been ordered to speak only in Cockney, and using their native language is a state crime.

yes fine we know it, Scots have experienced it starting 1746 :agree:

“For eight years, London has squandered, maneuvered, and evaded, continuing to systematically destroy Scotland. What would Scotland do under such conditions?

we do have British Nationalists in this country that would gladly see our country destroyed :agree:


c'mon Vladimir, spill the beans on comrade Boriski Johnski :agree: you know you want to

cabbageandribs1875
11-03-2022, 12:59 AM
wonder if he has any grandkids

The Russian foreign minister (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/foreign-minister) has dismissed outcry over the deadly bombing of a maternity and children’s hospital in Mariupol as “pathetic”.

Haymaker
11-03-2022, 01:48 AM
interesting :confused: 'Boris Johnson would nuke Scotland after independence', Russian Embassy bizarrely claims | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/19981389.boris-johnson-nuke-scotland-independence-russian-embassy-bizarrely-claims/?fbclid=IwAR299zOehyz3TwXYe3SouEJEzpzA9TMggScVCWIT 5SoB0tbjMoDGPIRgiks)

“At the same time, all Scots have been ordered to speak only in Cockney, and using their native language is a state crime.

yes fine we know it, Scots have experienced it starting 1746 :agree:

“For eight years, London has squandered, maneuvered, and evaded, continuing to systematically destroy Scotland. What would Scotland do under such conditions?

we do have British Nationalists in this country that would gladly see our country destroyed :agree:


c'mon Vladimir, spill the beans on comrade Boriski Johnski :agree: you know you want to

How? We have all the nukes :faf:

cabbageandribs1875
11-03-2022, 03:06 AM
How? We have all the nukes :faf:


but we don't have the codes :greengrin

lapsedhibee
11-03-2022, 05:52 AM
wonder if he has any grandkids

The Russian foreign minister (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/foreign-minister) has dismissed outcry over the deadly bombing of a maternity and children’s hospital in Mariupol as “pathetic”.

Not sure he'll know himself. Like Asset Johnson, he has more than one family to keep track of (https://twitter.com/pevchikh/status/1501878715709632518).

stokesmessiah
11-03-2022, 06:17 AM
I just watched some of the Johnson interview on Sky News. I know it is highly unlikely but does anyone else think it is daft to so publicly state that there are no circumstances in which we would intervene? At least maybe leave them guessing if there a red line. But saying that we absolutely will not gives Putin the freedom to do as he wishes?

lapsedhibee
11-03-2022, 06:27 AM
I just watched some of the Johnson interview on Sky News. I know it is highly unlikely but does anyone else think it is daft to so publicly state that there are no circumstances in which we would intervene? At least maybe leave them guessing if there a red line. But saying that we absolutely will not gives Putin the freedom to do as he wishes?

I doubt whether an asset has much input into what his case officer wants him to say.

Ozyhibby
11-03-2022, 06:50 AM
https://twitter.com/briankarem/status/1501964195608371200?s=21

Interesting if true?


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Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 07:15 AM
Conflict News
@Conflicts
·

UKRAINE: The cities of Lutsk and Ivano-Frankivsk were targeted last night, with Dnipro struck for the first time since the Russian invasion began. Multiple civilian casualties reported

Keith_M
11-03-2022, 07:22 AM
I'm getting sick of hearing people like Putin and the Russian Foreign Minister (Buggeroffski?) claiming that this invasion is all about Western aggression.

They're killing and injuring innocent people, destroying their homes and their water & heating supplies, mining escape routes from Kyiv, bombing hospitals and schools....

...yet it's Western aggression?

:confused:

James310
11-03-2022, 07:23 AM
This seems like poor timing.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1501842348132741122?t=SfJRrRTycRLVtsuh40hcYQ&s=19

BREAKING:

The European Parliament just passed a resolution demanding the European Commission imposes immediate economic sanctions on... Poland and Hungary.

478 MEPs voted for, 155 against.

Poland took in 1.4 mln refugees in 2 weeks and is struggling with the economic costs.

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 07:24 AM
Breaking911
@Breaking911
·
BREAKING: Russian officials request UN Security Council meeting due to the “military biological activities of the U.S. on the territory of Ukraine

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 07:26 AM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

⚡️#Biden will push for an end to normal trade relations between the #US and #Russia

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 07:27 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24


The U.S. Senate has approved a $13.6 billion emergency military and humanitarian aid package for Ukraine

AugustaHibs
11-03-2022, 07:44 AM
Conflict News
@Conflicts
·

UKRAINE: The cities of Lutsk and Ivano-Frankivsk were targeted last night, with Dnipro struck for the first time since the Russian invasion began. Multiple civilian casualties reported


Praying for the children in dnipro.

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 07:45 AM
OSINTdefender
@sentdefender
Just today I have seen Ukrainian Forces Capture at least 4 T-72B3Ms and 2 T-80BVMs, that is absolutely wild that Ukrainian Forces are able to bolster their Armored Forces this easily, its possible Ukraine may have more Tanks Currently than they started this War with
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1501996642911895559

Another Video of Multiple Modern Russian Tanks that were Partially Damaged or Became Stuck in Mud and were just abandoned without even trying to be recovered, later all of these Tanks and 1 Air Defense System were recovered by Ukrainian Forces to be repaired
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1501999342625898497

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 07:48 AM
Vehicle loss update from Mon the NLAW's, confirmed number so probably higher
@oryxspioenkop

Russian losses- 1034 vehicles, including 173 tanks and 322 A/IFVs

Additionally, the Russians have lost 310 trucks and other vehicles, including 91 Ural-4320s, 124 KamAZ 6x6s, and 19 Ural 43206s

Just Alf
11-03-2022, 08:00 AM
https://twitter.com/BaketaNikola/status/1502002563700477964?t=LtM3QYvTTklIeMTsgcQS3A&s=19

Following on from above, this references a website that's tracking losses - only those verified with picture evidence.

Looks like Ukraine has more tanks than it started with!

DaveF
11-03-2022, 08:05 AM
Breaking911
@Breaking911
·
BREAKING: Russian officials request UN Security Council meeting due to the “military biological activities of the U.S. on the territory of Ukraine

The continual accusations from Russia on biological weapons is worrying. They seem to be setting out a crap justification before they use them.

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 08:05 AM
https://twitter.com/BaketaNikola/status/1502002563700477964?t=LtM3QYvTTklIeMTsgcQS3A&s=19

Following on from above, this references a website that's tracking losses - only those verified with picture evidence.

Looks like Ukraine has more tanks than it started with!

That's ridiculous but absolutely brilliant 👏 😆

Jones28
11-03-2022, 08:34 AM
https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2022/0310/1285699-russian-embassy-orwell-road-irish-government/

Haven’t seen this posted before.

Russia was planning massive embassy expansion in Ireland which had to be blocked by the Irish housing minster on national security grounds.

grunt
11-03-2022, 09:14 AM
https://twitter.com/tgloban/status/1502205961095761922?s=20&t=ubUxARUlo74Z8wUCuz-yIw


An unmanned, Russian-looking aircraft, possibly intended for the town of Yarun in Ukraine, crashed last night in the neighborhood of Jarun in Zagreb, Croatia, some 1000 km away. Checking now whether there are places in Ukraine that resemble my street's name.

lapsedhibee
11-03-2022, 09:19 AM
https://twitter.com/tgloban/status/1502205961095761922?s=20&t=ubUxARUlo74Z8wUCuz-yIw

Better not rename Melville St Ukraine St then!

Ozyhibby
11-03-2022, 09:53 AM
https://twitter.com/mark_lynas/status/1502213464965750788?s=21

Let’s hope someone inside Russia is about to stop Putin.


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Scorrie
11-03-2022, 10:03 AM
If we want to pressure the Russians we should probably threaten to broadcast more Scottish football coverage at them. A St Johnstone game every night until they desist.

We’d be up for war crimes if we did that

Keyser Sauzee
11-03-2022, 10:04 AM
https://twitter.com/mark_lynas/status/1502213464965750788?s=21

Let’s hope someone inside Russia is about to stop Putin.


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That is genuinely terrifying

Sir David Gray
11-03-2022, 10:09 AM
That is genuinely terrifying

Yep that should probably come with a warning before anyone attempts to read that.

Anyone who is feeling even slightly anxious about this is likely to be tipped over the edge reading that, the thought of even some of that coming true is truly distressing to even try and contemplate.

Ozyhibby
11-03-2022, 10:20 AM
Yep that should probably come with a warning before anyone attempts to read that.

Anyone who is feeling even slightly anxious about this is likely to be tipped over the edge reading that, the thought of even some of that coming true is truly distressing to even try and contemplate.

The only consolation is that for those of us in Edinburgh, our proximity to Rosyth means we’ll be among the lucky ones to not even know it happened.

Although given that if you fire those things then ship building is probably off the menu whether they target Rosyth or not it seems a bit silly.
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Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 10:23 AM
Liveuamap
@Liveuamap

Russian National Security council meeting just now in Moscow:

Putin: foreign mercenaries fighting for Ukraine is a violation of international law
Shoigu: we have 16000 requests from Middle East(Assad) to join war in Ukraine
Putin: we should help them to travel to Ukraine

Mark Urban
@MarkUrban01
·
Russian suggestions that 16k volunteers are waiting to fight in Ukraine may suggest weakness rather than strength. Putin needs more men but revelations that conscripts &reservists have been sent into battle (in addition to professional 'contraktniki') have caused RU public unease

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 10:26 AM
They better get a move on if only 1000 approved so far

Will Hazell
@whazell
·

Education Secretary
@nadhimzahawi
speaking at #ASCL2022. Starts by saying that the Ukrainian flag is flying over the DfE, to show we are standing “shoulder to shoulder with all Ukrainians” against the “barbaric criminal invasion” by Russia

He says that the Government is preparing for “100,000 Ukrainian children that will come in and take their places at our schools

Says he has asked
@OakNational
to create an “auto translate function across all 10k of its lessons”, and that this has now been achieved. Will mean “Ukrainian children arriving in the UK can access education in their native language as they transition into life in safety here

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 10:31 AM
Michael Weiss 🌻🇺🇸🇮🇪
@michaeldweiss
·

Lithuanian President Gitanas Nausėda: “After five hours of heated discussions EU leaders said yes to Ukrainian eurointegration. The process started. Now it is up to us and Ukrainians to accomplish it fast. Heroic Ukrainian nation deserves to know that they are welcome in EU.

Hibernian Verse
11-03-2022, 10:34 AM
https://twitter.com/mark_lynas/status/1502213464965750788?s=21

Let’s hope someone inside Russia is about to stop Putin.


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Sounds like Snowpierceer

Ozyhibby
11-03-2022, 10:35 AM
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1501841660505837572?s=21

Worth a read


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PeeJay
11-03-2022, 11:07 AM
Michael Weiss 🌻🇺🇸🇮🇪
@michaeldweiss
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Lithuanian President Gitanas Nausėda: “After five hours of heated discussions EU leaders said yes to Ukrainian eurointegration. The process started. Now it is up to us and Ukrainians to accomplish it fast. Heroic Ukrainian nation deserves to know that they are welcome in EU.

That's all very well, but we surely know this is going to take years before "Ukraine" actually joins the EU, if at all ...

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 11:27 AM
That's all very well, but we surely know this is going to take years before "Ukraine" actually joins the EU, if at all ...

All the main players including ursula von der leyen have said they want them in and in a speeded up process

Keyser Sauzee
11-03-2022, 11:39 AM
Might have missed it in this thread already but has it been confirmed that Russia dropped a thermobaric bomb on Kharkiv? If so that’s Putin making a stance, obey or we all die. Genuinely worried by all this now, I can’t see how Putin is stopped from the inside and if we allow him to take Ukraine then he takes a NATO country following. To Stop him seems like full on war then that means nuclear weapons will definitely be used.

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 11:47 AM
Might have missed it in this thread already but has it been confirmed that Russia dropped a thermobaric bomb on Kharkiv? If so that’s Putin making a stance, obey or we all die. Genuinely worried by all this now, I can’t see how Putin is stopped from the inside and if we allow him to take Ukraine then he takes a NATO country following. To Stop him seems like full on war then that means nuclear weapons will definitely be used.

He's not going to be able to take anywhere and if he takes Ukraine he's certainly not holding it. I fear the US is holding back and watching Russias army be reduced to a fraction at the price of Ukraine

Ozyhibby
11-03-2022, 11:50 AM
He's not going to be able to take anywhere and if he takes Ukraine he's certainly not holding it. I fear the US is holding back and watching Russias army be reduced to a fraction at the price of Ukraine

I don’t think the US has any worries whatsoever about the conventional Russian military.


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Hibernian Verse
11-03-2022, 12:04 PM
What kind of nuclear defence system do;

1) We on the island have?
2) NATO have on the Eastern border?

WeeRussell
11-03-2022, 12:06 PM
Might have missed it in this thread already but has it been confirmed that Russia dropped a thermobaric bomb on Kharkiv? If so that’s Putin making a stance, obey or we all die. Genuinely worried by all this now, I can’t see how Putin is stopped from the inside and if we allow him to take Ukraine then he takes a NATO country following. To Stop him seems like full on war then that means nuclear weapons will definitely be used.

I understand and share your worry, but there's a lot of assumptions in your paragraph there which are not definite by any means.

Keyser Sauzee
11-03-2022, 12:08 PM
I understand and share your worry, but there's a lot of assumptions in your paragraph there which are not definite by any means.

Fair enough, maybe being dramatic just after reading a few things online earlier has put the fear of the whole situation into me.

Just Alf
11-03-2022, 12:11 PM
What kind of nuclear defence system do;

1) We on the island have?
2) NATO have on the Eastern border?I think the defence system is 'Patriot'?

I'm sure i read the Russians had complained as it had been deployed in Eastern Europe not sure where... not got a clue if its also closer to home (or if we'd even know about it).

JeMeSouviens
11-03-2022, 12:13 PM
Might have missed it in this thread already but has it been confirmed that Russia dropped a thermobaric bomb on Kharkiv? If so that’s Putin making a stance, obey or we all die. Genuinely worried by all this now, I can’t see how Putin is stopped from the inside and if we allow him to take Ukraine then he takes a NATO country following. To Stop him seems like full on war then that means nuclear weapons will definitely be used.

Can't see this at all.

Ukraine should have been a cakewalk compared to trying to take on a NATO country and it's certainly not turning out that way. It's politically impossible for Putin not to follow through on Ukraine for now (even if he wasn't a radge) but this must have been a big wake up call as to the limits of their current military capacity. We need to keep supplying Ukraine and keep squeezing Russia economically. Not quick or decisive but should work in the long run.

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 12:25 PM
I think the defence system is 'Patriot'?

I'm sure i read the Russians had complained as it had been deployed in Eastern Europe not sure where... not got a clue if its also closer to home (or if we'd even know about it).
Romania Poland and Lithuania have nato systems. The uk us France and Italy have frigates that would look to take them out shortly after take off. Even Ukraine has taken down cruise and iskander missles this week

cabbageandribs1875
11-03-2022, 12:27 PM
Russians saying they have received 16k applications from fighters in the middle east, wtf has Ukraine done to upset them

Keyser Sauzee
11-03-2022, 12:29 PM
Can't see this at all.

Ukraine should have been a cakewalk compared to trying to take on a NATO country and it's certainly not turning out that way. It's politically impossible for Putin not to follow through on Ukraine for now (even if he wasn't a radge) but this must have been a big wake up call as to the limits of their current military capacity. We need to keep supplying Ukraine and keep squeezing Russia economically. Not quick or decisive but should work in the long run.

I’m not well versed in war or economics so my scenario may be far off the mark. I just fear that Putin is on a suicide mission and he’s not scared to spark a nuclear war and take everyone down with him. If we don’t back off (not in any way suggesting we should) then he throws his toys out the pram. If we do then he takes Ukraine and thinks, I’ll go after Lithuania next. Basically he keeps going until full on war and at that point he starts to use Nuclear weapons, to which NATO retaliate and so on. I’m probably miles off the mark but just getting worried now.

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 12:31 PM
Russians saying they have received 16k applications from fighters in the middle east, wtf has Ukraine done to upset them

It's assads army in Syria the Russians have been fighting with, be a good time to send the kurds some nlaws too

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 12:33 PM
Britain training Lithuania on the nlaws now

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british-and-lithuanian-troops-conduct-anti-tank-training/

About 40 soldiers from the British Army took part in Exercise Hunter 22 in Lithuania, using state-of-the-art Javelin and NLAW anti-tank weapons systems alongside their Lithuanian allies.
According to a statement from NATO:

“This was a pre-planned bilateral exercise focusing on shared anti-tank capabilities. The soldiers from Black Horse Troop, the UK contribution to the US-led NATO enhanced Forward Presence Battlegroup in Poland, is formed from B Squadron The Royal Dragoon Guards.

Black Horse Troop are equipped with Jackal and Coyote vehicles as well as NLAW and Javelin anti-tank weapons. These two anti-tank systems have been employed by the British Army for a number of years and are a significant force multiplier for lightly armoured troops

WeeRussell
11-03-2022, 12:36 PM
Fair enough, maybe being dramatic just after reading a few things online earlier has put the fear of the whole situation into me.

I completely understand your position, and I’m maybe guilty of trying to paint things too positively. However I don’t think the nuclear thing is a starter for anyone for various reasons (everything from it taking more than one lunatic to use even one of these, to the fact that Putin is most likely using reference to nuclear to try and scare people into getting what he wants.. he’s a desperate man after all)

There’s much to worry about regardless, not least the continued destruction and suffering in Ukraine right this minute. And the world would be a better place without the poisonous little radge.

degenerated
11-03-2022, 12:47 PM
On a more positive note Chinese premier, Li Keqiang, has today called for more co-operation between China and to USA to tackle global challenges.

https://youtu.be/Bw8FTDHAx2M

One Day Soon
11-03-2022, 12:48 PM
I’m not well versed in war or economics so my scenario may be far off the mark. I just fear that Putin is on a suicide mission and he’s not scared to spark a nuclear war and take everyone down with him. If we don’t back off (not in any way suggesting we should) then he throws his toys out the pram. If we do then he takes Ukraine and thinks, I’ll go after Lithuania next. Basically he keeps going until full on war and at that point he starts to use Nuclear weapons, to which NATO retaliate and so on. I’m probably miles off the mark but just getting worried now.

Stay off social media and go for some walks, it's easy to get all of this way out of proportion. One thing he won't be doing is moving on to a NATO country any time soon. His conventional forces are very numerous but also not very good in terms of quality. A conflict with NATO would see his air forces annihilated very quickly. He's not mad, he's a high stakes gambler and he looks for weakness. He's managed to give NATO and the EU - collectively and individually - renewed moral and practical purpose with this adventurism and he's going to spend the remainder of his time in charge trying to stop his economy from falling apart and ambitious contenders from having him removed.

AugustaHibs
11-03-2022, 12:48 PM
According to available information, Vladimir Putin has ordered the preparation of a terrorist attack at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. The Russian-controlled Chernobyl nuclear power plant plans to create a man-made catastrophe, for which the occupiers will try to shift responsibility to Ukraine.

Currently, the Chernobyl nuclear power plant is completely disconnected from the monitoring systems of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). The station is de-energized. The resource of available diesel generators is designed for 48 hours of maintenance of safety systems.

The occupiers refused to grant access to the station to Ukrainian repairmen. Instead, "Belarusian specialists" went there on the instructions of Alexander Lukashenko. Among them, under the guise of nuclear power plants, Russian saboteurs also come to organize a terrorist attack.

At the same time, in recent days, Putin's troops have struck at the Zaporizhzhya NPP and the Kharkiv Institute of Physics and Technology (where the experimental nuclear reactor is located).

In order to imitate the involvement of the Ukrainian military in the Chernobyl accident, the occupiers are trying to create fake "evidence" to confirm their version. In particular, Russian car refrigerators collecting the bodies of dead Ukrainian defenders were spotted near the Antonov airport in Gostomel. There is a possibility that they will be presented as killed saboteurs in the Chernobyl zone.

That is, without getting the desired result from the ground military operation and direct talks, Putin is ready to resort to nuclear blackmail of the world community for the sake of concessions in support of Ukraine.

At present, Ukraine, the world, and Russia itself understand that the statements about Ukraine's involvement in the creation of a nuclear threat are just a staging of a mediocre scenario. Nevertheless, such actions by Putin will have catastrophic consequences for the whole world. It seems that this is what the Russian dictator is counting on, demanding unacceptable concessions.


https://gur.gov.ua/content/putin-hotuie-terakt-na-chaes.html

AugustaHibs
11-03-2022, 12:49 PM
According to available information, Vladimir Putin has ordered the preparation of a terrorist attack at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. The Russian-controlled Chernobyl nuclear power plant plans to create a man-made catastrophe, for which the occupiers will try to shift responsibility to Ukraine.

Currently, the Chernobyl nuclear power plant is completely disconnected from the monitoring systems of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). The station is de-energized. The resource of available diesel generators is designed for 48 hours of maintenance of safety systems.

The occupiers refused to grant access to the station to Ukrainian repairmen. Instead, "Belarusian specialists" went there on the instructions of Alexander Lukashenko. Among them, under the guise of nuclear power plants, Russian saboteurs also come to organize a terrorist attack.

At the same time, in recent days, Putin's troops have struck at the Zaporizhzhya NPP and the Kharkiv Institute of Physics and Technology (where the experimental nuclear reactor is located).

In order to imitate the involvement of the Ukrainian military in the Chernobyl accident, the occupiers are trying to create fake "evidence" to confirm their version. In particular, Russian car refrigerators collecting the bodies of dead Ukrainian defenders were spotted near the Antonov airport in Gostomel. There is a possibility that they will be presented as killed saboteurs in the Chernobyl zone.

That is, without getting the desired result from the ground military operation and direct talks, Putin is ready to resort to nuclear blackmail of the world community for the sake of concessions in support of Ukraine.

At present, Ukraine, the world, and Russia itself understand that the statements about Ukraine's involvement in the creation of a nuclear threat are just a staging of a mediocre scenario. Nevertheless, such actions by Putin will have catastrophic consequences for the whole world. It seems that this is what the Russian dictator is counting on, demanding unacceptable concessions.


https://gur.gov.ua/content/putin-hotuie-terakt-na-chaes.html




This is from Ukrainian government intelligence.

This is becoming truly terrifying for the future of the planet.

cabbageandribs1875
11-03-2022, 12:52 PM
It's assads army in Syria the Russians have been fighting with, be a good time to send the kurds some nlaws too

i haven't got a clue what's happening in Syria at the moment doesn't seem to be much news of events the last few months, i presume Turkey still have a presence but i thought they were working alongside the Russians, i'm glad Erdogan is against events in Ukraine and maybe it will persuade them not to purchase Russian-made defence systems

Ozyhibby
11-03-2022, 12:53 PM
Russians saying they have received 16k applications from fighters in the middle east, wtf has Ukraine done to upset them

Assad’s Syrian fighters. He needs Russia to not fail or he will be over run in Syria.
The Middle East will blow up again this year as food and fuel shortages start to bite.


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cabbageandribs1875
11-03-2022, 01:01 PM
Assad’s Syrian fighters. He needs Russia to not fail or he will be over run in Syria.
The Middle East will blow up again this year as food and fuel shortages start to bite.


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ah righty, i agree with stairway, start sending weaponry/equipment to the good guy Kurds, then again Erdogan won't like that :rolleyes:

Oscar T Grouch
11-03-2022, 01:02 PM
This is from Ukrainian government intelligence.

This is becoming truly terrifying for the future of the planet.

I raised this point in a discussion yesterday, if Chernobyl remains without power the depleted fuel rods will overheat, while that won't cause another meltdown, it will lead to the release of radioactive gases and debris akin to what we seen at the time of the original disaster. I am pretty sure Putin won't start a nuclear war, that is an immediate end of civilisation event, but I would not put it past him to create a number of nuclear power plant issues, even a meltdown/s to make large tracts of Ukraine an inhabitable wasteland, a sort of, 'if I can't have it then no one will have it' scenario. The planet was already on the edge in terms of Climate crisis, a war pushes us faster towards that. I had a feeling the human race would end up ****ging this planet, I just never thought it would happen in my lifetime

Hibernian Verse
11-03-2022, 01:05 PM
According to available information, Vladimir Putin has ordered the preparation of a terrorist attack at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. The Russian-controlled Chernobyl nuclear power plant plans to create a man-made catastrophe, for which the occupiers will try to shift responsibility to Ukraine.

Currently, the Chernobyl nuclear power plant is completely disconnected from the monitoring systems of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). The station is de-energized. The resource of available diesel generators is designed for 48 hours of maintenance of safety systems.

The occupiers refused to grant access to the station to Ukrainian repairmen. Instead, "Belarusian specialists" went there on the instructions of Alexander Lukashenko. Among them, under the guise of nuclear power plants, Russian saboteurs also come to organize a terrorist attack.

At the same time, in recent days, Putin's troops have struck at the Zaporizhzhya NPP and the Kharkiv Institute of Physics and Technology (where the experimental nuclear reactor is located).

In order to imitate the involvement of the Ukrainian military in the Chernobyl accident, the occupiers are trying to create fake "evidence" to confirm their version. In particular, Russian car refrigerators collecting the bodies of dead Ukrainian defenders were spotted near the Antonov airport in Gostomel. There is a possibility that they will be presented as killed saboteurs in the Chernobyl zone.

That is, without getting the desired result from the ground military operation and direct talks, Putin is ready to resort to nuclear blackmail of the world community for the sake of concessions in support of Ukraine.

At present, Ukraine, the world, and Russia itself understand that the statements about Ukraine's involvement in the creation of a nuclear threat are just a staging of a mediocre scenario. Nevertheless, such actions by Putin will have catastrophic consequences for the whole world. It seems that this is what the Russian dictator is counting on, demanding unacceptable concessions.


https://gur.gov.ua/content/putin-hotuie-terakt-na-chaes.html

Jesus H Christ.

PeeJay
11-03-2022, 01:21 PM
All the main players including ursula von der leyen have said they want them in and in a speeded up process

Yeah, but it's not up to "Ursula" is it? It has to get through all 27 parliaments: they will not rush it through IMO ... and Zelensky's not exactly overjoyed either,...

EU leaders' decision on Ukraine's Eurointegration is not what we expect - Zelensky (interfax.com.ua) (https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/811488.html)

Ozyhibby
11-03-2022, 01:42 PM
Yeah, but it's not up to "Ursula" is it? It has to get through all 27 parliaments: they will not rush it through IMO ... and Zelensky's not exactly overjoyed either,...

EU leaders' decision on Ukraine's Eurointegration is not what we expect - Zelensky (interfax.com.ua) (https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/811488.html)

Things have changed. Ukraine will be brought into the EU. And over the next ten years the EU will turn into a military superpower as well as an economic super power. Scotland will join the EU as well.


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WeeRussell
11-03-2022, 01:44 PM
This is from Ukrainian government intelligence.

This is becoming truly terrifying for the future of the planet.

Unsurprisingly I'm unable to translate the webpage of the source. Surely they don't publicise government intelligence though? Is it leaked info?

AugustaHibs
11-03-2022, 01:45 PM
Unsurprisingly I'm unable to translate the webpage of the source. Surely they don't publicise government intelligence though? Is it leaked info?

Is it not for the reason that they know Russia is going to try and blame them for any impending disaster so get in there before Russia make these claims?

WeeRussell
11-03-2022, 01:52 PM
Is it not for the reason that they know Russia is going to try and blame them for any impending disaster so get in there before Russia make these claims?

Yeah you could be right DD :aok: I was just surprised the info was available to us mere mortals and wondered if it was an 'unofficial' report.

JeMeSouviens
11-03-2022, 01:52 PM
Yeah, but it's not up to "Ursula" is it? It has to get through all 27 parliaments: they will not rush it through IMO ... and Zelensky's not exactly overjoyed either,...

EU leaders' decision on Ukraine's Eurointegration is not what we expect - Zelensky (interfax.com.ua) (https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/811488.html)

:agree:

The EU won't compromise on its laws. Indeed, it can't, they're bound up in treaty. It will take Ukraine a long time to get there. In the meantime, I would expect closer economic links - some kind of associate membership perhaps?

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 01:58 PM
Unsurprisingly I'm unable to translate the webpage of the source. Surely they don't publicise government intelligence though? Is it leaked info?

They put it on their official twitter too. Russia far less likely to do now its out there

McSwanky
11-03-2022, 02:00 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/evgeny-lebedev-statement-media-speculation-b2033842.html

Keith_M
11-03-2022, 02:00 PM
:agree:

The EU won't compromise on its laws. Indeed, it can't, they're bound up in treaty. It will take Ukraine a long time to get there. In the meantime, I would expect closer economic links - some kind of associate membership perhaps?


Do you mean like 'The Norway Deal' we were supposed to get after Brexit?

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 02:06 PM
Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine
@ua_parliament
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❗️URGENT! IMPORTANT INFORMATION!
Today, at 2:30pm, Ukrainian Border Guard Service reported that Russian planes left Dubrovytsia airfield in Belarus, flied into Ukrainian airspace, turned around over our towns of Horodychi and Tumeni, after which set a fire in Kopani town in 🇧🇾

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1502295767058366464
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
#Ukrainian government agencies publish this video as proof

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 02:21 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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Russia's is moving to ban Instagram, and wants to have Meta, the parent company, declared an "extremist organization” - RIA Novosti

Paul1642
11-03-2022, 02:22 PM
Things have changed. Ukraine will be brought into the EU. And over the next ten years the EU will turn into a military superpower as well as an economic super power. Scotland will join the EU as well.


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Based on what?

JeMeSouviens
11-03-2022, 02:30 PM
Do you mean like 'The Norway Deal' we were supposed to get after Brexit?

Maybe not that close, but yes, something on those lines. Closer than the UK is now but not as close as Switzerland or Norway.

Since90+2
11-03-2022, 02:35 PM
Things have changed. Ukraine will be brought into the EU. And over the next ten years the EU will turn into a military superpower as well as an economic super power. Scotland will join the EU as well.


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The EU is already an economic superpower.

Renfrew_Hibby
11-03-2022, 02:35 PM
Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine
@ua_parliament
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❗️URGENT! IMPORTANT INFORMATION!
Today, at 2:30pm, Ukrainian Border Guard Service reported that Russian planes left Dubrovytsia airfield in Belarus, flied into Ukrainian airspace, turned around over our towns of Horodychi and Tumeni, after which set a fire in Kopani town in 🇧🇾

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1502295767058366464
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
#Ukrainian government agencies publish this video as proof

Imagine Lukashenko letting Russia bomb his own people just so Belarus can join the 'operation'. Mind you it was probably his own idea!

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 02:35 PM
Losing 1 would be a shock within 2 weeks. Apparently having to put them closer to the front to sort the disaster, thus making them vulnerable

Larisa Brown
@larisamlbrown

Western officials confirm a third Russian major general has been killed in fighting in Ukraine

Renfrew_Hibby
11-03-2022, 02:38 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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Russia's is moving to ban Instagram, and wants to have Meta, the parent company, declared an "extremist organization” - RIA Novosti

My last line of communication with some Russian friends gone. We were surprised it stayed open this long.

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 02:41 PM
My last line of communication with some Russian friends gone. We were surprised it stayed open this long.

WhatsApp staying open if they have that

Sir David Gray
11-03-2022, 02:47 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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Russia's is moving to ban Instagram, and wants to have Meta, the parent company, declared an "extremist organization” - RIA Novosti

I thought that might be on the cards after Meta announced a change to their hate speech policy which now allows for people to post their support for violence against Putin and Lukashenko and Russian armed forces.

Ozyhibby
11-03-2022, 02:48 PM
The EU is already an economic superpower.

I know, probably didn’t word that properly. I meant they will become a military super power to match t their status as an economic super power.


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Renfrew_Hibby
11-03-2022, 02:48 PM
WhatsApp staying open if they have that

I know all is not lost after all

Hibrandenburg
11-03-2022, 02:53 PM
I just watched some of the Johnson interview on Sky News. I know it is highly unlikely but does anyone else think it is daft to so publicly state that there are no circumstances in which we would intervene? At least maybe leave them guessing if there a red line. But saying that we absolutely will not gives Putin the freedom to do as he wishes?Clever double bluff, Johnson is not only a liar but obviously a clever strategic genius.

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Hibrandenburg
11-03-2022, 02:56 PM
Breaking911
@Breaking911
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BREAKING: Russian officials request UN Security Council meeting due to the “military biological activities of the U.S. on the territory of UkraineWouldn't surprise me if he used biological weapons on his own troops and blame the west. He's shown that he's capable of doing anything.

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Hibrandenburg
11-03-2022, 03:16 PM
Liveuamap
@Liveuamap

Russian National Security council meeting just now in Moscow:

Putin: foreign mercenaries fighting for Ukraine is a violation of international law
Shoigu: we have 16000 requests from Middle East(Assad) to join war in Ukraine
Putin: we should help them to travel to Ukraine

Mark Urban
@MarkUrban01
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Russian suggestions that 16k volunteers are waiting to fight in Ukraine may suggest weakness rather than strength. Putin needs more men but revelations that conscripts &reservists have been sent into battle (in addition to professional 'contraktniki') have caused RU public uneaseIf there's one thing that Russia has had plenty of, then it's cannon fodder. At Seelow just east of Berlin, they sent wave after wave of infantry with wooden rifles to deplete German munitions in the last big battle before they took Berlin. The official number of Russian dead was put at 30 000 but some historians reckon it could have been up to 10 times that number.

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Fuzzywuzzy
11-03-2022, 03:16 PM
Has Putin been seen publicly recently? I've got visions of him sitting in a mocked up room in a DUMB in the Urals where no one can get him

Aldo
11-03-2022, 03:20 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if he used biological weapons on his own troops and blame the west. He's shown that he's capable of doing anything.

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I think he would do something like that to up the ante to try and get others involved!

Btw he’s not going to care hidden away in his bunker in the Altai Mountains!


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Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 03:24 PM
Has Putin been seen publicly recently? I've got visions of him sitting in a mocked up room in a DUMB in the Urals where no one can get him

25662

WhileTheChief..
11-03-2022, 03:34 PM
Has Putin been seen publicly recently? I've got visions of him sitting in a mocked up room in a DUMB in the Urals where no one can get him

You're not far wrong.

I've heard numerous experts claim that he only sees up to 18 or 20 or so people. All his lapdogs, ex KGB, similar age etc.

He'll be totally paranoid now that anyone else is out to bring him down.

Hopefully there s a big queue forming!!

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 03:38 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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⚡️⚡️The White House announces full blocking sanctions against Russian bank CEOs and State Duma members

Joe Biden also announced new sanctions against Russia:

📍The G7 nations intend to agree to prevent Russia from obtaining funds from global financial institutions

A ban on imports of Russian seafood, vodka, diamonds and luxury goods;

📍 A ban on exports of cars, clothes and jewelry to #Russia

The U.S. government will be able to prohibit new investment in any sector of the #Russian economy, the White House stated

Jim44
11-03-2022, 03:43 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/evgeny-lebedev-statement-media-speculation-b2033842.html

What influence does a westernised wealthy Russian have with Putin? I wonder what Putin really thinks about these rich oligarchs? Do they in effect have any clout whatsoever?

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 04:12 PM
Jack Detsch
@JackDetsch
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NEW: Ukraine's fixed-wing aircraft fleet remains 80 percent intact 15 days after Russian invasion: senior U.S. defense official.

Ukraine only flying 56 fighter jets 5-10 hours per day given Russian surface-to-air missile coverage over the country

Lendo
11-03-2022, 04:19 PM
I know all is not lost after all

There is another secure messaging app called Signal. Meant to be safer than WhatsApp. Worth looking in to.

Kato
11-03-2022, 04:25 PM
What influence does a westernised wealthy Russian have with Putin? I wonder what Putin really thinks about these rich oligarchs? Do they in effect have any clout whatsoever?The question should be the other way around... what influence did Putin have on this westernised Russian being so wealthy?

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Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 05:12 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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⚡️Biden says the U.S. will respond to any move by #Russia that threatens #NATO, even if it leads to world war

lapsedhibee
11-03-2022, 05:19 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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⚡️Biden says the U.S. will respond to any move by #Russia that threatens #NATO, even if it leads to world war

Oh dear. Hasn't Johnson said pretty much the opposite? Maybe in a situation like this Victoria Coren-Mitchell's who we need as PM.

Jim44
11-03-2022, 05:25 PM
The question should be the other way around... what influence did Putin have on this westernised Russian being so wealthy?

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Fair enough, shoot the lot of them as far as I’m concerned.

Keith_M
11-03-2022, 05:36 PM
There is another secure messaging app called Signal. Meant to be safer than WhatsApp. Worth looking in to.


I know some Media outlets have a negative opinion of it but Telegram's also still available.

Jim44
11-03-2022, 05:46 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

⚡️Biden says the U.S. will respond to any move by #Russia that threatens #NATO, even if it leads to world war

There’s no such thing as a prolonged World War now. Any major escalation will mean the end. full stop. God forbid.
100 years ago, it would have been inconceivable that the world could be ever be destroyed completely. Today it’s a distinct possibilty which would only take minutes to execute. It’s bad enough and soul-destroying to think that a Russian madman has the future of the world in his grasp, never mind it being exacerbated by another person who’s apparently on our side.

WeeRussell
11-03-2022, 05:57 PM
There’s no such thing as a prolonged World War now. Any major escalation will mean the end. full stop. God forbid.
100 years ago, it would have been inconceivable that the world could be ever be destroyed completely. Today it’s a distinct possibilty which would only take minutes to execute. It’s bad enough and soul-destroying to think that a Russian madman has the future of the world in his grasp, never mind it being exacerbated by another person who’s apparently on our side.

It’s a tough one Jim. On the other hand there’s an argument that Biden (or anyone else) can hardly say “we won’t do anything so just crack on and do as you please Putin”.

I don’t think nuclear war is an option for anyone, regardless of how bad or mad they are.

But you’re right regarding where the world is now. It’s ridiculous and disgusting that the world is full of nuclear weapons.

Jim44
11-03-2022, 06:11 PM
As an aside, yet relevant, to the ongoing world crisis, I’m hearing on the BBC News that the contracts for the future Calmac fleet has been awarded to yards in Poland, Romania and Turkey. Scottish company, Fergusons, lost out on the deal, presumably on a costs valuation, but it’s ironic that this major investment in our future ferry network has been given to countries, which, conceivably, might be under Russian control in the not too distant future. Far fetched? Maybe, but not entirely out of the question

Callum_62
11-03-2022, 06:17 PM
As an aside, yet relevant, to the ongoing world crisis, I’m hearing on the BBC News that the contracts for the future Calmac fleet has been awarded to yards in Poland, Romania and Turkey. Scottish company, Fergusons, lost out on the deal, presumably on a costs valuation, but it’s ironic that this major investment in our future ferry network has been given to countries, which, conceivably, might be under Russian control in the not too distant future. Far fetched? Maybe, but not entirely out of the questionOne could argue they are currently under less Russia control than the United Kingdom [emoji44]

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Ozyhibby
11-03-2022, 06:28 PM
https://twitter.com/maximalyukov/status/1502337993012658177?s=21

Wow!


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Jim44
11-03-2022, 06:35 PM
One could argue they are currently under less Russia control than the United Kingdom [emoji44]

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Fair comment! 😀

WeeRussell
11-03-2022, 06:36 PM
https://twitter.com/maximalyukov/status/1502337993012658177?s=21

Wow!


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Could this be indicative of ‘the start’ to what we want to see, or am I being overly optimistic?

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 06:50 PM
Oh dear. Hasn't Johnson said pretty much the opposite? Maybe in a situation like this Victoria Coren-Mitchell's who we need as PM.

No he said "if one Russian boot lands on Nato soil, Russian military will face the full force of Nato"

Kato
11-03-2022, 06:50 PM
Fair enough, shoot the lot of them as far as I’m concerned.A bit far, no? Interment was good enough for the fascists in WW2.

It's weird that Abramovich has went from "legitimate businessman" in the eyes of the Govt to Putin's lackey in the blink of an eye. But we assured this particular Russian guy is legit. Coming from a govt that lies 20 times before breakfast as a matter of course.

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Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 06:51 PM
Robert Zubrin
@robert_zubrin
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40 GOP Senators call for sending the MiGs to Ukraine.
Leading Democrats were in favor of transferring the MiGs earlier this week too, but have changed their tune in lockstep with the feckless Whitehouse line.

Stairway 2 7
11-03-2022, 06:59 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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We will not fight a war against Russia in Ukraine.

Direct conflict between NATO and Russia is World War III, something we must strive to prevent

We're going to continue to stand together with our allies in Europe and send an unmistakable message.

We will defend every single inch of NATO territory with the full might of the united and galvanized NATO,

says President Biden after announcing new sanctions on Russia

lapsedhibee
11-03-2022, 07:00 PM
No he said "if one Russian boot lands on Nato soil, Russian military will face the full force of Nato"

:aok:

Keith_M
11-03-2022, 07:25 PM
https://twitter.com/maximalyukov/status/1502337993012658177?s=21

Wow!


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It is surprising that they've dared to criticise Putin, but each of them are still toeing the party line that they're involved in the "denazification" of Ukraine.

They still stick to repeating that nonsense, which is bad enough, but the fact that the Ukrainian Prime minister and President are both Jewish makes it even more ridiculous.

Kato
11-03-2022, 07:38 PM
More in the Lord Haw Haw competition that's going done. Nice and close to home.

https://twitter.com/theousherwood/status/1502238306691649539?t=NeJijGzOTZLdYtoYkAjQhA&s=09

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Jack
11-03-2022, 08:22 PM
Britain training Lithuania on the nlaws now

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british-and-lithuanian-troops-conduct-anti-tank-training/

About 40 soldiers from the British Army took part in Exercise Hunter 22 in Lithuania, using state-of-the-art Javelin and NLAW anti-tank weapons systems alongside their Lithuanian allies.
According to a statement from NATO:

“This was a pre-planned bilateral exercise focusing on shared anti-tank capabilities. The soldiers from Black Horse Troop, the UK contribution to the US-led NATO enhanced Forward Presence Battlegroup in Poland, is formed from B Squadron The Royal Dragoon Guards.

Black Horse Troop are equipped with Jackal and Coyote vehicles as well as NLAW and Javelin anti-tank weapons. These two anti-tank systems have been employed by the British Army for a number of years and are a significant force multiplier for lightly armoured troops

I'm sure they'll be even more effective against Ladas given that's all the Ruskies will have left!

lapsedhibee
11-03-2022, 09:06 PM
In case anyone's missed it on other threads, Dnipro kids:

https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1502351253686345728

greenginger
11-03-2022, 09:30 PM
Y
A bit far, no? Interment was good enough for the fascists in WW2.

It's weird that Abramovich has went from "legitimate businessman" in the eyes of the Govt to Putin's lackey in the blink of an eye. But we assured this particular Russian guy is legit. Coming from a govt that lies 20 times before breakfast as a matter of course.

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It it could be that more information became available on Abramovich ‘s financial dealing , no ?

Sir David Gray
11-03-2022, 09:55 PM
Ukraine's foreign ministry has accused Russian soldiers of abducting the mayor of the south-eastern city of Melitopol.

Officials said that Russian troops kidnapped Mayor Ivan Fedorov on Friday afternoon after falsely accusing him of terrorism.

The BBC has not independently confirmed the allegations and Russian officials are yet to comment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60685883?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=622ba78f0ce87e491a0ef1c3%26Ukraine%20a ccuses%20Russia%20of%20abducting%20Melitopol%27s%2 0mayor%262022-03-11T19%3A53%3A27.622Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:a2e4e8a4-eb19-44c0-a336-2a4c6da70076&pinned_post_asset_id=622ba78f0ce87e491a0ef1c3&pinned_post_type=share

Sir David Gray
11-03-2022, 10:00 PM
Ukraine's foreign ministry has accused Russian soldiers of abducting the mayor of the south-eastern city of Melitopol.

Officials said that Russian troops kidnapped Mayor Ivan Fedorov on Friday afternoon after falsely accusing him of terrorism.

The BBC has not independently confirmed the allegations and Russian officials are yet to comment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60685883?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=622ba78f0ce87e491a0ef1c3%26Ukraine%20a ccuses%20Russia%20of%20abducting%20Melitopol%27s%2 0mayor%262022-03-11T19%3A53%3A27.622Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:a2e4e8a4-eb19-44c0-a336-2a4c6da70076&pinned_post_asset_id=622ba78f0ce87e491a0ef1c3&pinned_post_type=share

More now on reports that Russian troops have abducted the mayor of the south-eastern Ukrainian city of Melitopol.

A video widely shared on social media, including by the Belarusian opposition outlet, NEXTA, has been claimed to show Ivan Federov being dragged from a building in the city.

From BBC checks, the footage appears to be a CCTV recording watching the fountain in the Square of Victory, beside Liberators Arch in the city centre of Melitopol. However, we cannot verify whether the individual shown is Federov. You can watch the footage below.

Earlier, Interior Ministry adviser Anton Herashchenko said that Fedorov had been abducted from a "crisis centre" in the city with a plastic bag over his head.

Russia has not yet commented on the allegations, which the Ukrainian foreign ministry has described as a "war crime".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60685883?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=622bba9a980bea49f4b7c1cb%26Video%20sai d%20to%20show%20mayor%27s%20abduction%20is%20CCTV% 20from%20Melitopol%20square%262022-03-11T21%3A17%3A31.957Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:3e001f04-a553-4576-a843-af4536187536&pinned_post_asset_id=622bba9a980bea49f4b7c1cb&pinned_post_type=share

Kato
11-03-2022, 10:08 PM
Y


It it could be that more information became available on Abramovich ‘s financial dealing , no ?It's a possibility to believe that in a world where people button up the back.

Our security services will be well briefed on RA, there are multiple articles out there showing a definite connection. All that's changed is the poltliticians view on the intelligence.

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greenginger
11-03-2022, 11:22 PM
It's a possibility to believe that in a world where people button up the back.

Our security services will be well briefed on RA, there are multiple articles out there showing a definite connection. All that's changed is the poltliticians view on the intelligence.

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Multiple articles showing definite connections , in the Sun, Mirror , Express, :rolleyes:

Daily Record ! :confused:

You’ve got a lot of faith in journalism

Kato
11-03-2022, 11:54 PM
Multiple articles showing definite connections , in the Sun, Mirror , Express, :rolleyes:

Daily Record ! :confused:

You’ve got a lot of faith in journalism


I haven't seen any articles in the Sun, Mirror , Express, or the Daily Record. I have some faith in journalists that seem to get things right, yes.

You just seem to be guessing.


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Bostonhibby
12-03-2022, 06:51 AM
I haven't seen any articles in the Sun, Mirror , Express, or the Daily Record. I have some faith in journalists that seem to get things right, yes.

You just seem to be guessing.


Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkIt's certainly been out there, and fairly easy to find decent coverage if you want to see it, don't read the UK mainstream media.

It's interesting, for example, that the humble yet fearless Private Eye has exposed much of what we now know of Abramovich and other racketeers over a number of years and never been on the end of their attack dogs, the shameless UK libel lawyers.

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Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 07:08 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

"Insufficient reaction of the world community to the Russian occupation of Crimea in 2014 led to the current Russian aggression against Ukraine." - President Erdogan

Turkey is moving Syrian mercenaries who fought for Azerbaijan in the Nagorno-Karabakh War to Ukraine, where they will enlist in Ukraine’s Foreign Legion to fight against Russia.

Source: RIA Novosti

Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 07:09 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

British Defence Secretary Ben Wallace stated on March 9th that GB will consider how to arm Ukraine with British Startreak MANPADS.

They are more powerful than Stingers, have a range of up to 7 km and a max speed over Mach 3.

It’s a nightmare scenario for Russian pilots

Sir David Gray
12-03-2022, 07:13 AM
Russian troops shelled a regional oncology hospital in the southern Ukrainian city of Mykolayiv, the head of the city's Regional Health Authority, Maksym Beznosenko, has said on Facebook.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60717902?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=622c4be9ec502b53cd481c27%26Russia%20sh ells%20cancer%20clinic%20in%20southern%20city%2C%2 0says%20official%262022-03-12T07%3A47%3A36.384Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:163d49f2-0f6d-4553-afba-dde1e41f4b39&pinned_post_asset_id=622c4be9ec502b53cd481c27&pinned_post_type=share

makaveli1875
12-03-2022, 07:17 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

British Defence Secretary Ben Wallace stated on March 9th that GB will consider how to arm Ukraine with British Startreak MANPADS.

They are more powerful than Stingers, have a range of up to 7 km and a max speed over Mach 3.

It’s a nightmare scenario for Russian pilots

Might have been an idea to give them these before Russia started bombing **** out of Ukraine

Callum_62
12-03-2022, 07:44 AM
All these weapons that are being handed over by various nations - are they literally handing them over or are they charging for them?

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Bostonhibby
12-03-2022, 07:50 AM
All these weapons that are being handed over by various nations - are they literally handing them over or are they charging for them?

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkI did wonder. Munitions companies tend to do very well financially out of conflict so am guessing that whilst governments appear to donate the weapons will be paid for somehow.

In this case I'm glad, but sad, they are getting there.

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Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 07:58 AM
All these weapons that are being handed over by various nations - are they literally handing them over or are they charging for them?

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The countries will have already paid for them and are giving them for free to Ukraine

Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 08:03 AM
Might have been an idea to give them these before Russia started bombing **** out of Ukraine

We were the only European nation to arm Ukraine before the war. Gave them 2000 nlaws and sniper riffles and trained the army on both. Now almost 4000 nlaws

With star streak we'll need to somehow train people on it and need it confirmed it's a defensive weapon also

Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 08:05 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

The new EU/G7 sanctions package contains:

- suspension of Russia from the WTO, IMF and World Bank.

- a ban on imports of Russian steel

- a ban on the export of luxury goods to Russia

- ban/restrictions on investments in the Russian energy sector.

Source: Financial Times

Callum_62
12-03-2022, 08:18 AM
The countries will have already paid for them and are giving them for free to UkraineI get that they would have been paid for initially but countries are now effectively writing off 100s of million of pounds/euros on gifting them to Ukraine

I'm hoping that would be the case but handnt really seen that stated anywhere

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Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 08:31 AM
I get that they would have been paid for initially but countries are now effectively writing off 100s of million of pounds/euros on gifting them to Ukraine

I'm hoping that would be the case but handnt really seen that stated anywhere

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It's military aid it will have a cost to it like humanitarian aid food, supplies ect.

Same with sanctions having a cost I suppose. Although taking refugees will have a net benefit. Immigrants usually put more into the exchequer than out, just a pity uk is run by xenophobes for xenophobes

Renfrew_Hibby
12-03-2022, 08:40 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

"Insufficient reaction of the world community to the Russian occupation of Crimea in 2014 led to the current Russian aggression against Ukraine." - President Erdogan

Turkey is moving Syrian mercenaries who fought for Azerbaijan in the Nagorno-Karabakh War to Ukraine, where they will enlist in Ukraine’s Foreign Legion to fight against Russia.

Source: RIA Novosti

So we could have Syrians fighting Syrians on the streets of Ukraine.

Mental.

Andy Bee
12-03-2022, 09:38 AM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

British Defence Secretary Ben Wallace stated on March 9th that GB will consider how to arm Ukraine with British Startreak MANPADS.

They are more powerful than Stingers, have a range of up to 7 km and a max speed over Mach 3.

It’s a nightmare scenario for Russian pilots



These things aren't even put off by counter measures like flares from the aircraft, they're deadly.

Callum_62
12-03-2022, 09:53 AM
Poland [emoji122]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220312/04a520ee395e84888320d6d0978dbb17.jpg

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McD
12-03-2022, 09:59 AM
Poland [emoji122]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220312/04a520ee395e84888320d6d0978dbb17.jpg

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this kind of thing makes you rejoice for human spirit and desire to help. And weep that it needs to happen at all, and that sadly not everyone (looking at you uk gov) don’t have the same humanitarian ethos

Jack
12-03-2022, 10:01 AM
I get that they would have been paid for initially but countries are now effectively writing off 100s of million of pounds/euros on gifting them to Ukraine

I'm hoping that would be the case but handnt really seen that stated anywhere

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I suspect these things will have a use by date and the time they would have been normally replaced, for UK forces, has been brought forward.

Lendo
12-03-2022, 10:14 AM
More in the Lord Haw Haw competition that's going done. Nice and close to home.

https://twitter.com/theousherwood/status/1502238306691649539?t=NeJijGzOTZLdYtoYkAjQhA&s=09

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I tweeted the University asking if they had instructed their staff to spread Russian propaganda. The Uni doesn’t take kindly to any sort of negative press. Staff are told to be very careful on social media.

Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 10:27 AM
I suspect these things will have a use by date and the time they would have been normally replaced, for UK forces, has been brought forward.

They don't have use by date and they are still the most modern anti tank, especially since some of Russia’s armoured vehicles are from the 70s and 80s. UK has been training Ukrainian soldiers on their use the last few years

Germany sent some weapons from the east German army, some didn't work due to storage but the rest will get used. Many eu nations have sent modern stingers and javelins.

Ozyhibby
12-03-2022, 10:28 AM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/goldman-sachs-profits-ukraine-war-loophole-sanctions-rcna19584

Not shocking but still disgraceful.


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Hibrandenburg
12-03-2022, 11:02 AM
Poland [emoji122]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220312/04a520ee395e84888320d6d0978dbb17.jpg

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkGermans waiting for the arrival of refugee trains holding placards with offers of accommodation in their homes. When they first arrived there wasn't enough refugees to go round. The government have now stopped this due to concerns that female refugees might be taken advantage of and are now vetting those offering accommodation. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220312/53d18c081b68bd6e452281dd9515e101.jpg

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Hibrandenburg
12-03-2022, 11:47 AM
Just come back from the weekend shopping. My local supermarket has an aisle dedicated to international groceries, the Russian shelves have been removed.

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Jack
12-03-2022, 11:52 AM
They don't have use by date and they are still the most modern anti tank, especially since some of Russia’s armoured vehicles are from the 70s and 80s. UK has been training Ukrainian soldiers on their use the last few years

Germany sent some weapons from the east German army, some didn't work due to storage but the rest will get used. Many eu nations have sent modern stingers and javelins.

Maybe use by date was the wrong term. These weapons will be continually developed so even if its the most modern it needn't be the most up-to-date version we're giving away.

stu in nottingham
12-03-2022, 12:10 PM
Norway hosts 30,000 Nato troops for exercises as Russia tensions rise

https://www.ft.com/content/7d62ddb3-73f8-46c4-9cb7-70e43b8f33a2

Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 12:18 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

The Ministry of Energy of #Azerbaijan has stated that the country has enough gas reserves for supplies to #Europe and if necessary, can increase gas supplies to neighboring countries

Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 12:19 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

#American hedge funds are beginning to block the deposits of the oligarch Roman Abramovich in connection with the sanctions.

In addition, if Abramovich does not sell Chelsea in the near future, the football club faces bankruptcy

Lendo
12-03-2022, 01:00 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

The Ministry of Energy of #Azerbaijan has stated that the country has enough gas reserves for supplies to #Europe and if necessary, can increase gas supplies to neighboring countries

Surely that’ll not please Putin! I thought Azerbaijan was one of Russia’s pals?

Ozyhibby
12-03-2022, 01:30 PM
https://twitter.com/causticcorner/status/1502603644939735042?s=21

Italian police seizing another super yacht.


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grunt
12-03-2022, 01:47 PM
https://twitter.com/causticcorner/status/1502603644939735042?s=21

Italian police seizing another super yacht.
A yacht owned by someone who's not even sanctioned by the UK. In fact, owned by someone who Liz Truss has extended a $50m line of credit to.

Ozyhibby
12-03-2022, 01:50 PM
A yacht owned by someone who's not even sanctioned by the UK. In fact, owned by someone who Liz Truss has extended a $50m line of credit to.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220312/dad907a0c2d0984a3e4911007d24edb7.jpg


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Kato
12-03-2022, 02:17 PM
This is pretty good. Putting Russian aspirations and patterns of behaviour into context.

There are those who like to blame the West/Nato for this but for me they are falling into the same trap as those who blamed the West for the rise of Bin Ladin, forgetting that despots have their own narratives and motives, within which the West is just a bit part.



https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/stephen-kotkin-putin-russia-ukraine-stalin

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SaulGoodman
12-03-2022, 02:17 PM
Surely that’ll not please Putin! I thought Azerbaijan was one of Russia’s pals?

Think Putin will soon find out that ,in terms of world politics, friendships usually go to the highest bidder.

Kato
12-03-2022, 02:21 PM
A yacht owned by someone who's not even sanctioned by the UK. In fact, owned by someone who Liz Truss has extended a $50m line of credit to.Everyone of the Oligrachs should be sanctioned. No one is allowed to take that kind of wealth out of Russia without Putin's say so and Putin getting a cut. Meanwhile the Russian people lose out on returns from their hard work and resources. The only due diligence or investigation required is that they are outside Russia and are worth billions.

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Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 02:29 PM
Eu is under pressure to sanction Abramovich. Portuguese are asking how he got Portuguese citizenship so easy with help from his rabbi. Hopefully time running out for all of them and their house of cards starts to tumble

Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 02:33 PM
A lot of Ukrainian analysts are uneasy about these talks

max seddon
@maxseddon
·

Putin spoke to Macron and Scholz for two hours today.

He told them Ukraine was guilty of "extrajudicial reprisals against dissidents, taking civilians hostage, using them as human shields, [and] putting heavy armaments in civilian areas near hospitals, schools, kindergartens

It seems there may be more back channel talks.

Putin said Russian and Ukrainian representatives had continued to negotiate via video link after the most recent talks early this week, and discussed "certain issues related to agreements on satisfying Russia's well-known demands."

The German readout is much briefer: "During the 75-minute conversation, the Chancellor and the French President urged an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine and a diplomatic solution to the conflict. It was agreed not to disclose any further content of the conversation

Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 02:36 PM
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

Zelenskyy said that the kidnapped mayor of #Melitopol is alive. The occupiers are torturing him.

Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 02:37 PM
Conflict News
@Conflicts
·

BREAKING: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says Ukrainian and Russian negotiating teams have started discussing concrete topics rather than exchanging ultimatums -
@SkyNewsBreak

Moulin Yarns
12-03-2022, 02:39 PM
Norway hosts 30,000 Nato troops for exercises as Russia tensions rise

https://www.ft.com/content/7d62ddb3-73f8-46c4-9cb7-70e43b8f33a2

'Mon the small independent nations :thumbsup:

Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 02:40 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

Andrei Panov, the deputy head of the Russian flag carrier Aeroflot, has quit his job and fled Russia.

He wrote a message on Facebook saying:

"Left Russia. Left Aeroflot. The old life is over

Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 02:44 PM
'Mon the small independent nations :thumbsup:

5000 from the UK although its not permanent, apparently pre arranged training

Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 02:45 PM
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·

Russia’s Foreign Ministry issued a new warning to Sweden and Finland about joining NATO.

It said membership would have serious military and political consequences, including retaliation.

Swedish MEP
@weimers
says every new threat brings Sweden one step closer to membership

Del Boy
12-03-2022, 02:56 PM
Conflict News
@Conflicts
·

BREAKING: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says Ukrainian and Russian negotiating teams have started discussing concrete topics rather than exchanging ultimatums -
@SkyNewsBreak

Hope it comes to something positive soon but don’t hold much hope sadly

Sir David Gray
12-03-2022, 03:16 PM
We've been giving details of today's call between French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and their Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin.

The French presidency has now released more information about what was said during the nearly 90-minute conversation.

It describes it as a difficult discussion

Macron and Scholz asked for a ceasefire and an end to hostilities before starting a structured discussion on the next moves

Putin did not show any willingness to end the war in Ukraine, Mr Macron's office says

The French statement goes on to talk about what could happen next:

New sanctions are to be examined in the coming days in Brussels by members of the EU

Sanctions will take into account latest war developments including the siege of Mariupol

The aim of these historic “Iranian style” sanctions is to corner President Putin and side-line him from the international community

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60717902?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=622cc54a980bea49f4b7c3b4%26Aim%20of%20 sanctions%20is%20to%20corner%20Putin%20-%20French%20presidency%262022-03-12T16%3A11%3A04.392Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:e525e496-c81f-4f95-8c70-d2a00ca295ea&pinned_post_asset_id=622cc54a980bea49f4b7c3b4&pinned_post_type=share

Ozyhibby
12-03-2022, 03:27 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1502514788273950723?s=21

US needs to rethink all that military aid they send Isreal.


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ronaldo7
12-03-2022, 03:35 PM
Putins real inner circle, the Siloviki. Decent read.

https://www.ft.com/content/503fb110-f91e-4bed-b6dc-0d09582dd007?shareType=nongift

Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 04:16 PM
MilitaryLand.net
@Militarylandnet
·
Russia occupation authorities plan to organize a referendum on the topic of Kherson People's Republic, says a local deputy. What a surprise. #Kherson #UkraineRussiaWar #Ukraine

Callum_62
12-03-2022, 04:50 PM
MilitaryLand.net
@Militarylandnet
·
Russia occupation authorities plan to organize a referendum on the topic of Kherson People's Republic, says a local deputy. What a surprise. #Kherson #UkraineRussiaWar #UkraineI'm sure that will be fair and free....

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Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 04:52 PM
I'm sure that will be fair and free....

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Will be totally fair. Just 1 name on the ballot but you can pick whichever you want

Ozyhibby
12-03-2022, 06:12 PM
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1502719026522431492?s=21

Good news if true.


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Ozyhibby
12-03-2022, 06:21 PM
https://twitter.com/gabriel_pogrund/status/1502707317590183938?s=21


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hibsbollah
12-03-2022, 07:00 PM
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1502514788273950723?s=21

US needs to rethink all that military aid they send Isreal.


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These sort of opinions were conspicuous by their absence from the Gaza discussions, including on here, when Israelis were carpet bombing civilian areas and making accusations about human shields, sounds familiar? …Just saying, as the kids like to say.

Ozyhibby
12-03-2022, 07:24 PM
https://twitter.com/harryyorke1/status/1502718349637300236?s=21

Starmer asking for the advice to be published.


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Stairway 2 7
12-03-2022, 07:32 PM
Because flights from Russia have exploded there as a lay over for Europe

NEXTA
@nexta_tv
·

Serbian President Vucic declares that #Serbia is under external pressure because of active air traffic with #Russia

Kato
12-03-2022, 07:58 PM
https://twitter.com/harryyorke1/status/1502718349637300236?s=21

Starmer asking for the advice to be published.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkTen, twelve years of appeasement. It's obvious from our vantage point what appeasement of fascism in the 30's, at the time it was too close to see the wood for the trees. Just one example being a former Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster/Baronet who was interned after openly praising German nazis for the best part of a decade.

See also Lords Tavistock, Halifax.

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Ozyhibby
12-03-2022, 08:09 PM
https://twitter.com/dkaleniuk/status/1502748977963356162?s=21

Grim


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Ozyhibby
12-03-2022, 10:38 PM
https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status/1502763923812065287?s=21

Telegraph funded by Russians to run pro Russia stories.


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