World Cup thread

[Thecat23]

England would have been roasted by France had they made the final. Belgium pissing all over them.

[iwasthere1972]

How's the tennis going? Has Tim kept his serve yet?

Don't do that. I've stuck it on record at 8-8 in the 5th set. Intend to go back to it at half time. :greengrin

[weecounty hibby]

or playing sterling

He's not the only one. Some of these guys are decent players but are massively overrated. Sterling, Delph, Rashford, Henderson, decent but no more. Wouldn't get a game for Belgium, France or Croatia. 'arry Kane and Delli Alli have flattered to decieve. All look good in EPL but found out at highest level of international football.

[Iggy Pope]

Don't do that. I've stuck it on record at 8-8 in the 5th set. Intend to go back to it at half time. :greengrin

Does your sky box keep that stuff back to Tim holding a serve? Jeez, some box set.

[cabbageandribs1875]

just stuck £10 on ingland @10/1, surely the fuds can finally win me some dosh

[SRHibs]

just stuck £10 on ingland @10/1, surely the fuds can finally win me some dosh
.

[Scouse Hibee]

Switched over to Bury v Liverpool.

[iwasthere1972]

Does your sky box keep that stuff back to Tim holding a serve? Jeez, some box set.

Sky box. You're kidding. Got my hour 240 minute Betamax tape in the Hitachi VCR. Had to overtape the wife's Coronation Street double bill from last night.

[cabbageandribs1875]

He's not the only one. Some of these guys are decent players but are massively overrated. Sterling, Delph, Rashford, Henderson, decent but no more. Wouldn't get a game for Belgium, France or Croatia. 'arry Kane and Delli Alli have flattered to decieve. All look good in EPL but found out at highest level of international football.



that's true,i very seldom watch EPL games but from what i've read in the news the last 18 months this guy was the greatest player since, well, the last greatest player, same for dali ali

[cabbageandribs1875]

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lol, but yep...probably :(

[WoreTheGreen]

Only Iran have created less chances from open play . Remind you off anyone

[Moulin Yarns]

Switched over to Bury v Liverpool.

Part timer! Glory hunter!

[sauzee=legend]

Can’t believe I’m sitting in st Petersburg 😜 watching a defensive England whilst losing 🤣😂🤣

[cabbageandribs1875]

29m - winners
21m - runners-up

18m - 3rd
17m - 4th

12m - Qf's

9m - last 16

6m - group stage




i would have thought there would be a larger amount between 3rd and 4th :confused: 4th should get nowt..imo :)

[Scouse Hibee]

29m - winners
21m - runners-up

18m - 3rd
17m - 4th

12m - Qf's

9m - last 16

6m - group stage




i would have thought there would be a larger amount between 3rd and 4th :confused: 4th should get nowt..imo :)

:na na:

[JohnMcM]

29m - winners
21m - runners-up

18m - 3rd
17m - 4th

12m - Qf's

9m - last 16

6m - group stage




i would have thought there would be a larger amount between 3rd and 4th :confused: 4th should get nowt..imo :)

The whole thing is crazy. The winners of the WC get less than the average EPL team gets from TV don't they?

[Moulin Yarns]

:na na:

Thought you had given up and was watching Bury instead :-)

[Scouse Hibee]

Thought you had given up and was watching Bury instead :-)

0-0 it's even worse than England :greengrin

[Moulin Yarns]

0-0 it's even worse than England :greengrin

Can't believe that, nothing can be worse than England 😁

How did Dier not score there. Good goal line clearance

[Scorrie]

0-0 it's even worse than England :greengrin

Blimey even The Rangers put 6 past Bury

[cabbageandribs1875]

The whole thing is crazy. The winners of the WC get less than the average EPL team gets from TV don't they?



:agree: it's down to amount of tv appearances as well, man u picked up 149m, poor west brom only picked up a paltry 94m, obscene imo



https://talksport.com/football/376346/how-much-money-each-premier-league-club-earned-tv-and-their-final-position-180518283150/

[Moulin Yarns]

England have been better in the second half.

[Mon Dieu4]

Would this go straight to pens if its a draw or do they get made to play extra time?

[cabbageandribs1875]

what a lovely move and goal that would have been for the belgians

[Moulin Yarns]

What a counter attack from Belgium

[Benny Brazil]

Stunning football - deserved a goal

[cabbageandribs1875]

and that's that 2-zilch



they'll think it's all over

[Mon Dieu4]

Madrid would be off their head if they don't use the Ronaldo money to try and get Hazard

[Moulin Yarns]

They think it's all over 😁

[Benny Brazil]

When Belgium play like this they are devastating- they should really be winning these tournaments with the players they have

[blackpoolhibs]

7 games 3 wins 3 defeats and a draw, and things are looking up for them. :confused:


They probably believe in the tooth fairy too.

[Curried]

Glad Hazard got a goal there. Fantastic work rate, and player of the tournament for me.

[Since90+2]

Watch the media slowly turn against Southgate when the realisation hits that they have not actually had that good a tournament. It's coming home to roost.

[Lago]

Watch the media slowly turn against Southgate when they realisation hits that they have not actually had that good a tournament. It's coming home to roost.
Nope don't think that will happen.

[stoneyburn hibs]

7 games 3 wins 3 defeats and a draw, and things are looking up for them. :confused:


They probably believe in the tooth fairy too.

But they're fantastic and will win the next world cup.

[cabbageandribs1875]

But they're fantastic and will win the next world cup.



young vibrant players apparently, no other country has that

[Iggy Pope]

7 games 3 wins 3 defeats and a draw, and things are looking up for them. :confused:


They probably believe in the tooth fairy too.

Missed opportunity. Should've lost all their ****ing teeth while they had the chance. :greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

Missed opportunity. Should've lost all their ****ing teeth while they had the chance. :greengrin

They probably would have wanted a waistcoat rather than the £1 it normally gets, all sheite and no substance. :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

disappointed the studio won't be able to show us any 'scenes' from down south




well they could, but won't :(

[SRHibs]

They’re “6-7 years behind Belgium”. If they weren’t disadvantaged they would’ve won that game about 4-0.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i'm undecided whether to watch the reaction from the boys in the studio or watch the wimmins tennis final















tennis it is, i've just finished watching a wimmins team getting 4th spot at football

[Mon Dieu4]

They’re “6-7 years behind Belgium”. If they weren’t disadvantaged they would’ve won that game about 4-0.

Someone should tell him that's England's average age was 26 and Belgium was 27

[Iggy Pope]

They probably would have wanted a waistcoat rather than the £1 it normally gets, all sheite and no substance. :greengrin

Course, if they really need to lose teeth and all that......:cb

[Onion]

7 games 3 wins 3 defeats and a draw, and things are looking up for them. :confused:


They probably believe in the tooth fairy too.

You sense this was a one-of opportunity for England - like no other. Next time, the English media and fan expectations will revert to normal over the top. They'll be "champions in waiting" and the pressure on Southgate and his English chumps will be absolutely massive before they trip over their egos.

Feel sorry for Southgate. Comes across as a genuinely nice guy. They are going to destroy him.

[IGRIGI]

young vibrant players apparently, no other country has that

Not forgetting Southgate is the 2nd coming of Christ, we've never had someone as nice in the history of humanity.

[Michael]

Watch the media slowly turn against Southgate when the realisation hits that they have not actually had that good a tournament. It's coming home to roost.

Semi final is a good tournament by most standards. Excellent for England.

[BurghHibby]

Not forgetting Southgate is the 2nd coming of Christ, we've never had someone as nice in the history of humanity.

Man at C&A (for us older ones)

[bodhibs]

It's been a marvelous world cup, enjoyed it, been some great games between some very attack minded teams. England, no so much, have a go eh ya bunch o phannies

[SteveHFC]

Just realised this will be the last summer world cup for 8 years with 2022 being moved to winter.

https://youtu.be/H9W5GjEYKj8?t=11

[ballengeich]

England went into the World Cup rated 12th in the world. They reached the semi-final but didn't beat anyone rated higher, having lost twice to their only higher-rated opponents. They deserve praise for what they've achieved, but need to maintain perspective too.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

England went into the World Cup rated 12th in the world. They reached the semi-final but didn't beat anyone rated higher, having lost twice to their only higher-rated opponents. They deserve praise for what they've achieved, but need to maintain perspective too.

Despite being the “4th best team at the tournament” they deserve to actually drop down the rankings

They were mediocre against poor opponents

If they had won on Wednesday they would have been the worse team ever to reach a World Cup

[PatHead]

Despite being the “4th best team at the tournament” they deserve to actually drop down the rankings

They were mediocre against poor opponents

If they had won on Wednesday they would have been the worse team ever to reach a World Cup
A really poor team who played on their matches at the same ground then were given a goal when the ball didn’t Cross the line won it in 66. That gave one player the first ever recorded 2 goal hat trick in history. I am not bitter though..........

[ballengeich]

A really poor team who played on their matches at the same ground then were given a goal when the ball didn’t Cross the line won it in 66. That gave one player the first ever recorded 2 goal hat trick in history. I am not bitter though..........

Remember also that the presence of spectators on the pitch should have ruled out the fourth goal.

That was after Pele was hacked out of the tournament and a West German referee sent off an Argentinian in the quarter-final against England while an English referee was sending off two Uruguayans against West Germany. Now I'm not a conspiracy theorists, but ...........

[Liam978]

They probably would have wanted a waistcoat rather than the £1 it normally gets, all sheite and no substance. :greengrin

Aye right Gary still slavering, wise up to the fact that they are 4th in the world, we are toiling to be 4th in Britain

[SideBurns]

To attempt to summarise from a neutral, dispassionate perspective: England played 2 decent teams and lost to 3 of them (with thanks to my uncle for that one). One has a population less than a tenth of England's, the other roughly a quarter. England beat Tunisia, Panama, and Sweden, and drew with Colombia.

World domination surely beckons.

[blackpoolhibs]

Aye right Gary still slavering, wise up to the fact that they are 4th in the world, we are toiling to be 4th in Britain

I know we are sheite, you will probably find it hard to find a Scotsman who does not think that. England on the other hand, will never have a better chance than they just passed up.

7 games and only 3 wins against Panama Tunisia and Sweden, Christ almighty, i think even Scotland might have beaten them.

[marinello59]

To attempt to summarise from a neutral, dispassionate perspective: England played 2 decent teams and lost to 3 of them (with thanks to my uncle for that one). One has a population less than a tenth of England's, the other roughly a quarter. England beat Tunisia, Panama, and Sweden, and drew with Colombia.

World domination surely beckons.

Yet nobody is claiming that World domination beckons although there are plenty of Scots wishing all the pundits had claimed that. There was general agreement before, during and now after their participation that this England team is well away from being one of the top teams in the world. I wouldn’t even put them in the top ten. They do have a decent base to build on now though and it looks like they have the right manager to keep things moving forward.
Croatia have kicked the population argument in to to touch although the SFA will no doubt continue to use it to excuse our continuing failure.

[Hibbyradge]

Watch the media slowly turn against Southgate when the realisation hits that they have not actually had that good a tournament. It's coming home to roost.

Since when was getting to the world cup semi-final not that good?

I'd love it if Scotland ever had such a poor tournament.

[marinello59]

Since when was getting to the world cup semi-final not that good?

I'd love it if Scotland ever had such a poor tournament.

They had a party down south for 4 weeks whilst England had a piss poor World Cup. It must have been hell for them. :greengrin

[SideBurns]

Yet nobody is claiming that World domination beckons although there are plenty of Scots wishing all the pundits had claimed that. There was general agreement before, during and now after their participation that this England team is well away from being one of the top teams in the world. I wouldn’t even put them in the top ten. They do have a decent base to build on now though and it looks like they have the right manager to keep things moving forward.
Croatia have kicked the population argument in to to touch although the SFA will no doubt continue to use it to excuse our continuing failure.

I read after the semi-final that Southgate said he expects them to move into the top ten in the next couple of years. They might, but the squad will need to show considerable progress for that to happen. It's been an extraordinary WC in that only one of the traditional big guns, France obviously, has shown the form expected of them and I can't believe that Germany, Argentina, and Brazil (to a lesser extent) along with countries like Italy and the Netherlands who didn't qualify, will tolerate such levels of failure again.

Of course, now the tournament is coming to an end with England's involvement over, it's time to focus on Scotland again. As you say, Croatia have blown apart the population myth (as the likes of Denmark have done previously) so any attempt by the SFA or Scotland managers to use that argument going forward will be rightly mocked.

[Since90+2]

Since when was getting to the world cup semi-final not that good?

I'd love it if Scotland ever had such a poor tournament.

Since you actually look at the teams they beat and realise they never beat one side they weren't expected to. They drew with Columbia who were without their best player and were beaten twice by Belgium and Croatia.

[Since90+2]

They had a party down south for 4 weeks whilst England had a piss poor World Cup. It must have been hell for them. :greengrin

Don't think I used the term piss poor?. I said they will come to realise it wasn't actually all that good and when you look at the results in the cold light of day it wasn't.

[HelmutSchlong]

Since when was getting to the world cup semi-final not that good?

I'd love it if Scotland ever had such a poor tournament.

Completely this. The tosh being trotted out by some Scots, no doubt welsh and Irish too, is laughable. Anyone with half a brain would liken it too Yams being obsessed with us, which, funnily enough gets ridiculed on here. It’s refreshing to actually see the media actually get behind and support the team for a change

They qualified convincingly for the World Cup, and progressed through to semi final stage by beating what was put in front of them. They were only Subosic’s stud away from advancing into the final

I hope and pray for the day when Scotland has such a poor tournament, then again maybe not as I’ve given up on the TA due to the downright xenophobic hollier than thou attitude which goes before them

I vowed after the England friendly and Ireland qualifier double header at Parkhead in the aftermath of the referendum I wouldn’t attend another Scotland game as the behaviour was nothing short of bigoted and xenophobic. The TA have Scotland on some sort of pedestal as being this wee great fantastic welcoming nation. Not so in my experience in the above two matches. They are a parody of themselves and can only take delight in singing about Diego Maradona, a drug taking cheat

I’ve went way off topic I know but hey ho!

[overdrive]

Since when was getting to the world cup semi-final not that good?

I'd love it if Scotland ever had such a poor tournament.

According to an English guy I know, it’s not that good. Since the semi-final full time whistle he’s been banging on about how Southgate should be sacked and never work in football again.

Yet between round of 16 and the start of the semi-final he was wanting Southgate to be given a knighthood.

[Hibbyradge]

England scored 12 goals, 10 of which came from set pieces.

To me, that shows that they lack creativity. If they can unearth a midfielder or 2 then they'll have a chance of doing well in the Euros.

Having said that, they could and really should, have been 3 up on Croatia by half time. How Kane hit the post from a yard out in impossible to understand, but if he'd scored, we'd be watching England this afternoon.

[Hibbyradge]

Since you actually look at the teams they beat and realise they never beat one side they weren't expected to. They drew with Columbia who were without their best player and were beaten twice by Belgium and Croatia.

I'm not really sure why beating teams you're expected to and progressing to the semi final is such a bad thing.

[HelmutSchlong]

Having said that, they could and really should, have been 3 up on Croatia by half time. How Kane hit the post from a yard out in impossible to understand, but if he'd scored, we'd be watching England this afternoon.

Subosic got his stud to it and directed it off the post. It was an excellent save

[mjhibby]

England scored 12 goals, 10 of which came from set pieces.

To me, that shows that they lack creativity. If they can unearth a midfielder or 2 then they'll have a chance of doing well in the Euros.

Having said that, they could and really should, have been 3 up on Croatia by half time. How Kane hit the post from a yard out in impossible to understand, but if he'd scored, we'd be watching England this afternoon.

And if Andrew shinnie hadn't missed an open goal from 2yards in the two seasons agosfinal game St Mirren they would have been relegated. If paco luna had scored with that header. If shaws goal at the pbs had been correctly given. That's football. Remember Croatia hit the post and the guy fluffed the rebound and had men over a couple of times but didn't get the ball. On the balance of the game Croatia deserved to win. You have to be very blinkered to say otherwise. We are wasting time arguing about it. They are out and I'm sure their performances will be analysed to death after the world Cup.

[blackpoolhibs]

I'm not really sure why beating teams you're expected to and progressing to the semi final is such a bad thing.

Its not a bad thing, but a good thing is winning games against teams who are your equal or better, they didn't.

And considering how the draw opened up giving them the best chance in decades of actually getting to the final, they must be gutted.

I know a few lads who are gutted, but are putting a brave face on and clutching to their comfort blanket on how they had no real expectations before the tournament.

Then all of a sudden, after their first defeat against Belgium, which by the way didn't count apparently, as they played their reserves.

All of a sudden, they then told me how easy their route to the final had become, something looking back has made me smile more than once. :greengrin

[Since90+2]

I'm not really sure why beating teams you're expected to and progressing to the semi final is such a bad thing.

Not a bad thing , but when you don't beat one single side you aren't expected to I don't think it's a roaring success either.

[Deejk107]

Completely this. The tosh being trotted out by some Scots, no doubt welsh and Irish too, is laughable. Anyone with half a brain would liken it too Yams being obsessed with us, which, funnily enough gets ridiculed on here. It’s refreshing to actually see the media actually get behind and support the team for a change

They qualified convincingly for the World Cup, and progressed through to semi final stage by beating what was put in front of them. They were only Subosic’s stud away from advancing into the final

I hope and pray for the day when Scotland has such a poor tournament, then again maybe not as I’ve given up on the TA due to the downright xenophobic hollier than thou attitude which goes before them

I vowed after the England friendly and Ireland qualifier double header at Parkhead in the aftermath of the referendum I wouldn’t attend another Scotland game as the behaviour was nothing short of bigoted and xenophobic. The TA have Scotland on some sort of pedestal as being this wee great fantastic welcoming nation. Not so in my experience in the above two matches. They are a parody of themselves and can only take delight in singing about Diego Maradona, a drug taking cheat

I’ve went way off topic I know but hey ho!

Bigoted and Xenophobic? have a word mate slagging English or Irish is part of football for Scotland fans, you want to see bigoted or xenophobic you should look further in the direction of the English you were clearly supporting so highly in the world cup lol.

[Hibbyradge]

Subosic got his stud to it and directed it off the post. It was an excellent save

Really? I didn't notice that. Great save then.

[Hibbyradge]

And if Andrew shinnie hadn't missed an open goal from 2yards in the two seasons agosfinal game St Mirren they would have been relegated. If paco luna had scored with that header. If shaws goal at the pbs had been correctly given. That's football. Remember Croatia hit the post and the guy fluffed the rebound and had men over a couple of times but didn't get the ball. On the balance of the game Croatia deserved to win. You have to be very blinkered to say otherwise. We are wasting time arguing about it. They are out and I'm sure their performances will be analysed to death after the world Cup.

Croatia deserved to win. I'm not arguing.

[Deejk107]

Really? I didn't notice that. Great save then.

Fantastic save but still awful from Kane, really should have buried the first one before Subasic hit it with his stud!

[HelmutSchlong]

Bigoted and Xenophobic? have a word mate slagging English or Irish is part of football for Scotland fans, you want to see bigoted or xenophobic you should look further in the direction of the English you were clearly supporting so highly in the world cup lol.

Ok then by that rationale slagging catholics is part of football for Rangers fans. Jesus wept. There’s no hope for this country with this sort of mindset

There’s football banter and rivalry then there’s xenophobia and bigotry

[SirDavidsNapper]

Would absolutely love Croatia to win today. What a shot in the arm it would be for such a small country. Need a monumental effort to beat an excellent French side though.

[MWHIBBIES]

And if Andrew shinnie hadn't missed an open goal from 2yards in the two seasons agosfinal game St Mirren they would have been relegated. If paco luna had scored with that header. If shaws goal at the pbs had been correctly given. That's football. Remember Croatia hit the post and the guy fluffed the rebound and had men over a couple of times but didn't get the ball. On the balance of the game Croatia deserved to win. You have to be very blinkered to say otherwise. We are wasting time arguing about it. They are out and I'm sure their performances will be analysed to death after the world Cup.

St Mirren wouldn't have been relegated, they'd have ****ing hammered Brechin in a playoff. Was alot more than 2 yards as well :greengrin

[Kato]

Ok then by that rationale slagging catholics is part of football for Rangers fans. Jesus wept. There’s no hope for this country with this sort of mindset

There’s football banter and rivalry then there’s xenophobia and bigotry

There's rivalry but on the other hand there's outright bigotry. I doubt anyone is saying what Rangers fans sing is rivalry. You pointed out some bigots in among the Scotland support, I've no doubt they exist as I've experienced it myself.

Wouldn't you say that it can be a lot worse within the England support, some brutal bigots in among them?

[HelmutSchlong]

There's rivalry but on the other hand there's outright bigotry. I doubt anyone is saying what Rangers fans sing is rivalry. You pointed out some bigots in among the Scotland support, I've no doubt they exist as I've experienced it myself.

Wouldn't you say that it can be a lot worse within the England support, some brutal bigots in among them?

Deflect, deflect, deflect. So we have a few bigots and xenophobs in our support but not as many as England

[Deejk107]

Ok then by that rationale slagging catholics is part of football for Rangers fans. Jesus wept. There’s no hope for this country with this sort of mindset

There’s football banter and rivalry then there’s xenophobia and bigotry


So its not okay for us to slag English in the context of a football game because some snowflakes like you might wrongfully compare Scottish fans singing about our history to huns singing about murdering catholics? There's a massive massive difference. If people like you had their way we'd all be sat with gags in on our hands at a football match. Can't believe you'd compare anything you'd hear at hampden to the huns, such an idiotic comparison. You're right there's no hope for this country with this mindset, but i'm talking about your mindset.

[Sir David Gray]

If I was English I would be pleased with the progression to the semi finals.

However it really can't be ignored that they didn't beat anyone that were clearly better than them. I thought Colombia would have done better than they did but they were without their best player in James Rodriguez. Sweden were a very good draw for England in the quarter finals and their group was very easy to qualify from.

They had several opportunities to exceed expectations and failed each time. They failed to finish 1st in their group ahead of the favourites Belgium, they failed to beat favourites Croatia in the semi finals and then failed again to beat favourites Belgium in the third place play off.

The history books will always state that at World Cup 2018 England reached the semi finals and it represented their best performance in almost 30 years. However when you look at their path to the semi finals, they really didn't over achieve at all and really only did what they should have done.

[IGRIGI]

For me if we had a cup run of Brechin, Stirling Albion, Montrose, St Mirren and then got knocked out by Motherwell in the Semi Final I'd be gutted and wouldn't be telling everyone how fantastic an achievement it was.

[HelmutSchlong]

So its not okay for us to slag English in the context of a football game because some snowflakes like you might wrongfully compare Scottish fans singing about our history to huns singing about murdering catholics? There's a massive massive difference. If people like you had their way we'd all be sat with gags in on our hands at a football match. Can't believe you'd compare anything you'd hear at hampden to the huns, such an idiotic comparison. You're right there's no hope for this country with this mindset, but i'm talking about your mindset.

Ok I’m out, there’s no reasoning with people like you when it comes to anti English agendas

[Since90+2]

So its not okay for us to slag English in the context of a football game because some snowflakes like you might wrongfully compare Scottish fans singing about our history to huns singing about murdering catholics? There's a massive massive difference. If people like you had their way we'd all be sat with gags in on our hands at a football match. Can't believe you'd compare anything you'd hear at hampden to the huns, such an idiotic comparison. You're right there's no hope for this country with this mindset, but i'm talking about your mindset.

This.

[Kato]

Deflect, deflect, deflect. So we have a few bigots and xenophobs in our support but not as many as England

Its not a deflection at all, you're the one deflecting. I said there were bigots among the Scottish support. Its one of the reasons I stopped going many years ago. No problem admitting that, no deflection at all.

What is a fact is that there are more among the England fans, in numbers and the culture within their support, you cant seem to bring yourself to admit that however and there lies the deflection.

(jeez internet interactions like this, people on their high horse, are so 1990's)

[Deejk107]

Ok I’m out, there’s no reasoning with people like you when it comes to anti English agendas

The only person who has an agenda here is you, i've offered a valid argument with valid points and you've failed to do so in return and are using the "no reasoning with people like you" excuse when I'm not even slightly anti English. You just don't have a counter argument.

So lemme guess you have english family or something? And you got offended hearing someone tell the English fans to piss off back to England or something? That's not xenophobic or is it bigoted. I don't doubt you may have experienced one or two idiots within the Scottish support but you literally used Rangers fans singing en masse about murdering people as a comparison to hearing one or two fannies in our support. Honestly i've heard waaay worse at Easter Road from Hibs fans than I ever have at Hampden? Remember the Skacel song? How about the Wallace Mercer one? Or the version we had for the Huns about the queen being the next one to go? Or about David Murray being a cripple? Those songs are way worse than anything I've ever heard at a Scotland game and I've been to 10 to your 2!

If you're done with Scotland fine but to compare us to Rangers fans singing about murdering people based on their religion it starts to get a bit idiotic if i'm honest.

[Kato]

Ok I’m out, there’s no reasoning with people like you when it comes to anti English agendas

What a quitter, what an absolute rotter. A lot of Scottish people lack objectivity on this subject but they cant hold a candle to the likes of you.

[Kato]

The only person who has an agenda here is you, i've offered a valid argument with valid points and you've failed to do so in return and are using the "no reasoning with people like you" excuse when I'm not even slightly anti English. You just don't have a counter argument.

So lemme guess you have english family or something? And you got offended hearing someone tell the English fans to piss off back to England or something? That's not xenophobic or is it bigoted. I don't doubt you may have experienced one or two idiots within the Scottish support but you literally used Rangers fans singing en masse about murdering people as a comparison to hearing one or two fannies in our support. Honestly i've heard waaay worse at Easter Road from Hibs fans than I ever have at Hampden? Remember the Skacel song? How about the Wallace Mercer one? Or the version we had for the Huns about the queen being the next one to go? Or about David Murray being a cripple? Those songs are way worse than anything I've ever heard at a Scotland game and I've been to 10 to your 2!

If you're done with Scotland fine but to compare us to Rangers fans singing about murdering people based on their religion it starts to get a bit idiotic if i'm honest.

What's wrong with the Mercer song. The lyrics are a mere statement of fact.

[Deejk107]

What's wrong with the Mercer song. The lyrics are a mere statement of fact.

While I'll admit to singing that song plenty of times in its heyday I'd also say I wouldn't sing it if I knew that the man's family was in attendance for example, while its just banter it's also pretty harsh for a group of people to be celebrating the death of a human being! I like to imagine we don't need to sing songs such as that anymore to wind them up! As I've seen you agree with me I'll ask you if you think that song is worse than anything you'll hear at Hampden at a Scotland game?

[blackpoolhibs]

For me if we had a cup run of Brechin, Stirling Albion, Montrose, St Mirren and then got knocked out by Motherwell in the Semi Final I'd be gutted and wouldn't be telling everyone how fantastic an achievement it was.

Exactly, the season Falkirk beat us in the semi 1-0, i was gutted. When you see who won it that year, at the time i thought it was our best chance and our easiest run to a cup final in my memory.

[madhatter]

All this talk of anglophobia...can someone remind me what the “missing” verse of both the English and UK national anthem is again?

That anthem should have been demolished, not a verse removed. UK anthem which had a verse saying “rebellious Scots to crush”.

Never understood why Scotland gets such a bad reaction to anti-English sentiments when clearly there is an anti-Scottish sentiment the other way.

[Kato]

While I'll admit to singing that song plenty of times in its heyday I'd also say I wouldn't sing it if I knew that the man's family was in attendance for example, while its just banter it's also pretty harsh for a group of people to be celebrating the death of a human being! I like to imagine we don't need to sing songs such as that anymore to wind them up! As I've seen you agree with me I'll ask you if you think that song is worse than anything you'll hear at Hampden at a Scotland game?

I don't see the song as celebrating his death, just pointing out the irony that after his demise we are still able to celebrate the continuing existence of our club, something he, and his family at the time, didn't give a second thought to.

I couldn't tell you if Scotland fans sing anything "worse*, but they used to. Gallows humour exists in every support. I don't follow Scotland but as I've said there are no doubt bigots amongst them the culture is no where near as bad is it can be with some England fans.

[CropleyWasGod]

All this talk of anglophobia...can someone remind me what the “missing” verse of both the English and UK national anthem is again?

That anthem should have been demolished, not a verse removed. UK anthem which had a verse saying “rebellious Scots to crush”.

Never understood why Scotland gets such a bad reaction to anti-English sentiments when clearly there is an anti-Scottish sentiment the other way.This comes up from time to time and is, rightly, squelched.

The verse was never an official part of the anthem. It was made up by a London newspaper of the time...satirical in the nature of Private Eye.

http://www.aforceforgood.org.uk/precious/anthem1

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[Kato]

This comes up from time to time and is, rightly, squelched.

The verse was never an official part of the anthem. It was made up by a London newspaper of the time...satirical in the nature of Private Eye.

http://www.aforceforgood.org.uk/precious/anthem1

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**** tune though and does nothing to celebrate the country, just bigging up some old bag. Tiresome dirge.

[CropleyWasGod]

**** tune though and does nothing to celebrate the country, just bigging up some old bag. Tiresome dirge.Agreed. But the debate needs to be on the basis of the facts and evidence, not what we would like them to be.

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[Hibbyradge]

For me if we had a cup run of Brechin, Stirling Albion, Montrose, St Mirren and then got knocked out by Motherwell in the Semi Final I'd be gutted and wouldn't be telling everyone how fantastic an achievement it was.

You might have felt differently if Hibs hadn't been to a semi-final for 30 years.

If Scotland got through the group stages by beating Luxembourg and Hong Kong we'd be delighted.

If the draw opened up and we beat Estonia to the quarter final, folk would be dancing in the street and if we drew with the Maldives but knocked them out on penalties, there would be calls for a public holiday and knighthoods all round.

And, I should point out, England fans were gutted to lose the semi.

[Beefster]

This comes up from time to time and is, rightly, squelched.

The verse was never an official part of the anthem. It was made up by a London newspaper of the time...satirical in the nature of Private Eye.

http://www.aforceforgood.org.uk/precious/anthem1

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Aw baws. We were already resorting to 18th century whatabootery and even that’s been busted. Aye, but William Wallace and that.

[Beefster]

For me if we had a cup run of Brechin, Stirling Albion, Montrose, St Mirren and then got knocked out by Motherwell in the Semi Final I'd be gutted and wouldn't be telling everyone how fantastic an achievement it was.

I wouldn’t even go to the semi-final after only beating that shower of *****. And if I did, I definitely wouldn’t be taking those foam hands or jester hats so that it was clear that we hadn’t achieved anything yet.

[hibsbollah]

This comes up from time to time and is, rightly, squelched.

The verse was never an official part of the anthem. It was made up by a London newspaper of the time...satirical in the nature of Private Eye.

http://www.aforceforgood.org.uk/precious/anthem1

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You could argue the fact that the offending verse was inserted later by someone other than the lyricist is irrelevant. Crushing rebellious Scots was still been part of the anthem in its widely known form for over a hundred years. And of course, the rest of the song is all about the glory of imperial conquest and the superiority of the Royal bloodline which is enough to dislike it anyway in my book.


Anyone up for talking about the World Cup Final?? :greengrin

[Iggy Pope]

This comes up from time to time and is, rightly, squelched.

The verse was never an official part of the anthem. It was made up by a London newspaper of the time...satirical in the nature of Private Eye.

http://www.aforceforgood.org.uk/precious/anthem1

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Having clicked on that I'm now off for a shower.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Ok I’m out, there’s no reasoning with people like you when it comes to anti English agendas




thank goodness, although i must say i'm quite surprised at you getting away with that username on a family forum :wink: , but it IS quite apt for you though

[cabbageandribs1875]

All this talk of anglophobia...can someone remind me what the “missing” verse of both the English and UK national anthem is again?

That anthem should have been demolished, not a verse removed. UK anthem which had a verse saying “rebellious Scots to crush”.

Never understood why Scotland gets such a bad reaction to anti-English sentiments when clearly there is an anti-Scottish sentiment the other way.




exactly

[Deejk107]

All this talk of anglophobia...can someone remind me what the “missing” verse of both the English and UK national anthem is again?

That anthem should have been demolished, not a verse removed. UK anthem which had a verse saying “rebellious Scots to crush”.

Never understood why Scotland gets such a bad reaction to anti-English sentiments when clearly there is an anti-Scottish sentiment the other way.

100% this, the amount of English folk i've had question why us "jocks" hate them so much after i've just sat and had them talk down to me like they're the adults and we're the children. I have family members get angry at me for my views on politics for example saying that they're sad that their family members could be "brainwashed" like "the rest of them" lol. They refuse to admit to being anti-Scottish while they act anti-Scottish, there's no reasoning with them! There's a reason the huns like to wear their England tops and bring the Union Jack out in their droves, very easy for them to relate to the English.

[660]

Completely this. The tosh being trotted out by some Scots, no doubt welsh and Irish too, is laughable. Anyone with half a brain would liken it too Yams being obsessed with us, which, funnily enough gets ridiculed on here. It’s refreshing to actually see the media actually get behind and support the team for a change

They qualified convincingly for the World Cup, and progressed through to semi final stage by beating what was put in front of them. They were only Subosic’s stud away from advancing into the final

I hope and pray for the day when Scotland has such a poor tournament, then again maybe not as I’ve given up on the TA due to the downright xenophobic hollier than thou attitude which goes before them

I vowed after the England friendly and Ireland qualifier double header at Parkhead in the aftermath of the referendum I wouldn’t attend another Scotland game as the behaviour was nothing short of bigoted and xenophobic. The TA have Scotland on some sort of pedestal as being this wee great fantastic welcoming nation. Not so in my experience in the above two matches. They are a parody of themselves and can only take delight in singing about Diego Maradona, a drug taking cheat

I’ve went way off topic I know but hey ho!

This post haha. What exactly was the xenophobic or bigoted behaviour you witnessed at these games? Singing about Maradona?! I was at both and there wasn’t much you wouldn’t see at any other match between old rivals.

[Moulin Yarns]

So its not okay for us to slag English in the context of a football game because some snowflakes like you might wrongfully compare Scottish fans singing about our history to huns singing about murdering catholics? There's a massive massive difference. If people like you had their way we'd all be sat with gags in on our hands at a football match. Can't believe you'd compare anything you'd hear at hampden to the huns, such an idiotic comparison. You're right there's no hope for this country with this mindset, but i'm talking about your mindset.

Slightly off topic but I got a row from my wife this morning as I had joked on my Falkirk supporter nephew Facebook page when he posted about their opening game against montrose. I posted they Bairnsded it after he frequently posts that any team losing a match hibsded it. Apparently it is tribalism and I should stop.

[snooky]

Slightly off topic but I got a row from my wife this morning as I had joked on my Falkirk supporter nephew Facebook page when he posted about their opening game against montrose. I posted they Bairnsded it after he frequently posts that any team losing a match hibsded it. Apparently it is tribalism and I should stop.

"Better meddle wi' the devil......"

[JeMeSouviens]

Anyone up for talking about the World Cup Final?? :greengrin

Pressure all on France, especially with the shadow of the 2016 euros hanging over them. They should have too much for Croatia if they have the bottle.

[SteveHFC]

Mbappe is 4/1 to score anytime on sky bet.

[ronaldo7]

I've thoroughly enjoyed the competition, with Russians having organised an impeccable world cup. Let's hope the final gives us one last surprise.

Mon the Croats(are we allowed to say that) 🏆

[Scouse Hibee]

Anyway back to the World Cup, it's been a fantastic tournament in my opinion. Yes I have of course enjoyed the achievement of England reaching the semi finals which was a fantastic achievement I never thought would happen.

But there's been much to it than that for me, the first real proper use of VAR and the controversy and talking points that it has brought to the game.
The failure of some of the regular big guns to reach the latter stages, which has been as a result of some fantastic football from other nations which has been a joy to watch, Croatia, Belgium and France to name a few. The lack of any real crowd trouble which was thought could become deadly if it really kicked off. And then of course the anticipation of the transfer movements following the World Cup.

I hope the final lives up to expectations, and would love Croatia to win it.

[JeMeSouviens]

As much as I didn’t want England to win :na na: Southgate seems like a thoughtful and thoroughly nice bloke.

[Thecat23]

France 3-1 Croatia is what I predict today. Hope it’s a good game though to top off a good World Cup. For all the hype over the Russians they have managed to put on a fantastic tournament.

[JeMeSouviens]

Highlight of the tournament?

The Belge fightback against Japan for me, culminating in the ultimate counter attack goal. Sublime.

[SteveHFC]

Highlight of the tournament?

The Belge fightback against Japan for me, culminating in the ultimate counter attack goal. Sublime.

France v Argentina game was a classic.

[hibsbollah]

I've thoroughly enjoyed the competition, with Russians having organised an impeccable world cup. Let's hope the final gives us one last surprise.

Mon the Croats(are we allowed to say that) ��

:agree: All predictions of rampant racism, apocalyptic hooliganism and Putin injecting the new Adidas balls with novichok primed to explode when they bounce in the direction of Gareth Southgate have been proved incorrect.

A great tournament indeed, all we need is a great final. I really think its all about the midfield. If Modric is subdued by Ngoulou Kane and his pals, 4-0 France. If Modric plays like he did against England, it will be close. I also think Mandzukic can pressurise Umtiti who's prone to the odd mistake.

Gaun :sauzee: but I'd also be happy for Croatia if they can do it.

[hibsbollah]

Highlight of the tournament?

The Belge fightback against Japan for me, culminating in the ultimate counter attack goal. Sublime.

Spain Portugal.

France Argentina.

The South Americans getting fired up at the anthems.

The goalkeeping (Pickford, Lloris, Schmeichel, Subasic take a bow)

The Iranian boys handstand throw-in.

[Since90+2]

Mandzucick's goal against England (the finish was sublime).

[CropleyWasGod]

Belgium's end to end move against England yesterday

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[ronaldo7]

:agree: All predictions of rampant racism, apocalyptic hooliganism and Putin injecting the new Adidas balls with novichok primed to explode when they bounce in the direction of Gareth Southgate have been proved incorrect.

A great tournament indeed, all we need is a great final. I really think its all about the midfield. If Modric is subdued by Ngoulou Kane and his pals, 4-0 France. If Modric plays like he did against England, it will be close. I also think Mandzukic can pressurise Umtiti who's prone to the odd mistake.

Gaun :sauzee: but I'd also be happy for Croatia if they can do it.

Can't see past France, but you never know.

I think dechamps has more at his disposal today, and the player of the tournament in Varane.

[SteveHFC]

BBC still going on about England.

[Mibbes Aye]

Enjoying the BBC build-up.

The slot focusing on France's win on 1998 in particular - a nice reminder and some nice footage of the days when Des Lynam presented. He really was the consummate pro.

[SanFranHibs]

Spain Portugal.

France Argentina.

The South Americans getting fired up at the anthems.

The goalkeeping (Pickford, Lloris, Schmeichel, Subasic take a bow)

The Iranian boys handstand throw-in.

Mexico beating Germany was good to watch and not because I have anything against Germany at all. Indeed, prior to any major football tournament I always say Germany at least to the semis, but after watching them lose to Mexico I thought, 'This Germany team will not progress far'.


The atmosphere at World Cup football games just can't be beaten. Not the dull, boring qualifying games of course :wink:

[Hibbyradge]

France should be too strong for Croatia, but I'm hoping that nerves don't subdue the players.

A fast, free flowing, technical game with several goals and tension until the last minutes is all I ask.

[Hibbyradge]

BBC still going on about England.

Just like this thread earlier today.

[Pretty Boy]

If Pogba and ****e play like they did in the semi final then France will win. Only concern is if Giroud is as wasteful as he was against Belgium it could cost them.

[Mibbes Aye]

Pavard at RB for France has had a good tournament and must be a stick-on for a move after the WC, despite sporting a 'young Christian Dailly' barnet.

[Hibbyradge]

This is going to be a great final. One we'll remember for a long time.

I feel it in my water.

[Mibbes Aye]

Is Mbappe the first player to feature in a World Cup Final with a name very similar to a Hanson song title?

I'm not discounting the possibility of others but have yet to find evidence.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

I have backed France to win in 90 minutes with both sides to score.

[Scouse Hibee]

Commentators said 4th final in a row to be all European. Argentina were in the 2014 final!

[Hibbyradge]

Is Mbappe the first player to feature in a World Cup Final with a name very similar to a Hanson song title?

I'm not discounting the possibility of others but have yet to find evidence.

:faf:

Very droll!

[Pretty Boy]

All Croatia 1st few minutes. A few 'clever' fouls by them to stop France breaking with any pace as well.

[Hibbyradge]

France haven't turned up. Yet.

[GRA]

Hmm looking like following the recent trend of dull World Cup finals....

(Hope that's jinxed it and we get a cracker)...

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[IGRIGI]

The French performance so far is why I didn't want them vs England in the Final.

It's like watching Hibs at Hampden 9 times out of 10 prior to 2016 (So far).

[Mibbes Aye]

Mbappe's body movement when he received the ball on the right, prior to the free kick, was sublime. For his age he has great game intelligence.

[IGRIGI]

Boom! Own goal from the Croatians.

[K-Zazu]

Never a free kick leading up to that goal

[Pretty Boy]

Awful defending. Why are they defending on their own 6 yard line from that position? Keeper should be physically dragging them up the park.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Og. Lined up too far back

[stoneyburn hibs]

Hang your head Griezmann

[wookie70]

Looked offside to me. French player in offside when ball came in from free kick and he then went into the back of the boy who scored the OG.

[JeMeSouviens]

Hang your head Griezmann

VAR guys should be able to pull that back.

[danhibees1875]

I thought of the initial hit was on target then it wasn't an OG?

[Mibbes Aye]

I'm not saying my hair is anything special but Croatia deserve to lose on the basis of Vida's hairstyle alone.

It's a shocker.

[Pretty Boy]

I thought of the initial hit was on target then it wasn't an OG?

I think it was an indirect free kick.

[Mon Dieu4]

Looked offside to me. French player in offside when ball came in from free kick and he then went into the back of the boy who scored the OG.

I thought the same, was close but thought he was just off

[stoneyburn hibs]

VAR guys should be able to pull that back.

Baffling that they didn't.

[Michael]

Baffling that they didn't.

Don't think they can do freekicks?

[danhibees1875]

I think it was an indirect free kick.

That would make sense, but I don't know why it would have been indirect - it was just a standard foul?

I can't even think what should result in an indirect free kick other than the keeper picking up a pass back.

[Mon Dieu4]

What a strike

[stoneyburn hibs]

Yes !

[IGRIGI]

Oh ya ****, pick that out!!!!

All square.

[Pretty Boy]

What a strike. Game on.

[Mibbes Aye]

What a strike!!

[Hibbyradge]

Beauty

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Great hit

[Pretty Boy]

Replay shows a big deflection.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Don't think they can do freekicks?

I didn't know that.

[Michael]

'mon Croatia. Great goal.

[Betty Boop]

Brilliant! Mon the Croats !!!!

[SirDavidsNapper]

This commentator must have money on France

[Hibbyradge]

That would make sense, but I don't know why it would have been indirect - it was just a standard foul?

I can't even think what should result in an indirect free kick other than the keeper picking up a pass back.

Offside?

[danhibees1875]

Offside?

I didn't realise that was indirect - but you might be right!

[CropleyWasGod]

I didn't realise that was indirect - but you might be right!Definitely is. Watch the ref next time there's an offside. He will have his arm raised.

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[Hibbyradge]

You're joking.

[cabbageandribs1875]

can't give a penalty for that ffs, the french boy in front of him ducks



no ******* way that's absolutely p@sh

[Hibbyradge]

Booooooo

[MartinfaePorty]

Boo!

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[Stevie Reid]

**** VAR

absolute shocker

[Sprouleflyer]

What a shocking decision

[stoneyburn hibs]

Terrible decision

[guthrie01]

Ridiculous decision

[Hermit Crab]

Very harsh penalty decision imo.

[Mibbes Aye]

Watched it like everyone else on the replays. I think it was a pen but only just and could have seen the case for not giving it.

[Scouse Hibee]

Replay made it look worse. Thought the red would give it

[Pretty Boy]

Poor decision. The VAR system is so weighted in favour of changing the refs mind. It’s not like rugby where it is a committee decision. As soon as the ref is told to look at it again it’s in his head he has made a mistake.

[cabbageandribs1875]

that's disgraceful the boys jumping and off balance

[IGRIGI]

I thought it was a penalty but that's from watching VAR not live, can't help feel bad after the free kick decision.

[weecounty hibby]

Rule change required. Just say any hand ball in the box whether deliberate or not just give a pen. Saves any ****ing about. No way was that deliberate

[Pretty Boy]

Great penalty. 2 poor refereeing decisions ****ing Croatia here.

[danhibees1875]

Definitely is. Watch the ref next time there's an offside. He will have his arm raised.

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Fair! In my head that was indicating an "offside line" that the player had crossed. Didn't realise that meant indirect :hide:

VAR showing it's flaws again. (By allowing humans to make flaws I guess)

[Scouse Hibee]

Poor decision. The VAR system is so weighted in favour of changing the refs mind. It’s not like rugby where it is a committee decision. As soon as the ref is told to look at it again it’s in his head he has made a mistake.

I don’t think so on this occasion he never saw it first time round so no mistake to overturn.

[Hibbyradge]

**** VAR

absolute shocker

It's not VAR to blame. It's the referee

[Michael]

Where was his hand meant to go? He was in mid air. Been shocked at how poor the refs have been with VAR.

[Mibbes Aye]

BBC commentator called it right. The fact the defender's hand came down and played the ball clinches it. The hand coming down is the critical part. It is marginal but it was the right decision.

[lord bunberry]

BBC commentator called it right. The fact the defender's hand came down and played the ball clinches it. The hand coming down is the critical part. It is marginal but it was the right decision.
I agree. His arm definitely moved towards the ball.

[guthrie01]

Greizmans celebration was so classless after the penalty :rolleyes:

Hope Croatia can fight back once more

[Pretty Boy]

The atmosphere is pretty crap no? Croatia with an attacking free kick and now a corner and it’s silence in the stadium.

[Hibbyradge]

Fair! In my head that was indicating an "offside line" that the player had crossed. Didn't realise that meant indirect :hide:

VAR showing it's flaws again. (By allowing humans to make flaws I guess)

Obstruction and dangerous play are indirect too.

[Michael]

Greizmans celebration was so classless after the penalty :rolleyes:

Hope Croatia can fight back once more

Yeah, don't know what that was about. Unless they were giving him stick.

[lord bunberry]

The atmosphere is pretty crap no? Croatia with an attacking free kick and now a corner and it’s silence in the stadium.
That’s because proper fans have very limited access to tickets.

[Just Jimmy]

It was a penalty. He moved his hand towards it and it has an impact on the direction of the ball.

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[Stevie Reid]

It's not VAR to blame. It's the referee

Which has been my argument all along. Doesn't solve anything when referees are still so fallible.

[calumhibee1]

Yeah, don't know what that was about. Unless they were giving him stick.

It’s a dance thing from a PS4 game. He’s been doing it for a while.

[Pretty Boy]

That’s because proper fans have very limited access to tickets.

Yep it’s a shame, it’s a bit like a pop concert or pantomime. Screaming, booing and applause in all the right places but it’s all a bit false.

[Onion]

French are so lucky to be ahead. Only one team have played football this half and created some decent half chances.

Going for a 3-2 famous Croatia win.

[SirDavidsNapper]

What an opportunity missed by Engerland. France look there for the taking. Croatia have been very good mind you.

[green day]

It was a penalty. He moved his hand towards it and it has an impact on the direction of the ball.

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Yep, if he hadn't handled it goes into 6 yard box toward french attackers.

On review, his hand moved in an odd manner. I would have given it.

[guthrie01]

It’s a dance thing from a PS4 game. He’s been doing it for a while.

Yeah but to do it in a Cup Final against Croatia is quite disrespectful imo, no need for it

[BoomtownHibees]

Yeah but to do it in a Cup Final against Croatia is quite disrespectful imo, no need for it

You want him to change how he normally celebrates because it’s in a World Cup Final??

[cabbageandribs1875]

that dive by greaseman was absolutely disgraceful, professional my erky, hope he's ashamed of himself when he sees what everyone else saw...a durty ******* cheat

[hfc rd]

Yeah, don't know what that was about. Unless they were giving him stick.


It’s from a PS4 game. Fortnite. It’s some sort of dance move

[Hiber-nation]

Shearer spot on. Absolutely scandalous decision, Perisic knew nothing about it. Can't believe that so many on here agree with it and Keown as well.

[SRHibs]

It’s from a PS4 game. Fortnite. It’s some sort of dance move

It’s “Take the L”, which is effectively calling them losers. Just a bit of fun though I guess.

[Hibs90]

What an absolute farce. I am a neutral obviously so I don't care who wins here I just want to see a good game of football but VAR and this referee are ruining this.

Croatia have been fantastic. Grizzman as Keown keeps calling him dives, they get the free kick and score from it. That is never a penalty in a million years.


Laughable.

[Mibbes Aye]

can't give a penalty for that ffs, the french boy in front of him ducks
no ******* way that's absolutely p@sh


that's disgraceful the boys jumping and off balance


that dive by greaseman was absolutely disgraceful, professional my erky, hope he's ashamed of himself when he sees what everyone else saw...a durty ******* cheat

# u ok hun??

[J-C]

All 4 guys in the BBC studio saying no Pen and mistake by the ref, personally I thought it was a clear penalty, he moved his hand down towards the ball.

[superfurryhibby]

Griezman cheat.
Penalty decision correct.

I’m enjoying the game. Croatia look like they will score again and I really hope they do. France need to stop the supply of crosses and take the game to Croatia more if they want to maintain their lead.

C’mon the Croats.

[cabbageandribs1875]

# u ok hun??


do one...hun

[guthrie01]

You want him to change how he normally celebrates because it’s in a World Cup Final??

He can do what he wants, but in my view it’s a celebration which is disrespectful to the Croatian players and fans effectively calling them losers

[ancient hibee]

Croatia strikers will need to show a bit more keenness to attack the ball in the box.France are getting away with murder with their poor attempts to defend all these crosses.

[BoomtownHibees]

He can do what he wants, but in my view it’s a celebration which is disrespectful to the Croatian players and fans effectively calling them losers

Nonsense

[Mibbes Aye]

Shearer spot on. Absolutely scandalous decision, Perisic knew nothing about it. Can't believe that so many on here agree with it and Keown as well.

The more times I see it from the front, the more a stick-on pen it becomes. The ref was behind the defender and didn't have that view in real-time.

As I've said before, marginal but a definite penalty. And I don't think there are that many on here agreeing with it. When you posted I think there were only a couple of us, with lots of dissent. After the halftime replays I reckon more will agree, despite the comments from Shearer et al.

[MWHIBBIES]

It didn't actually touch matuidi so he handballed it straight from the corner. It's a clear penalty and we'd all be screaming for it.

[guthrie01]

Nonsense

It’s my opinion, if you disagree then say so rather then call it nonsense :aok:

[Mibbes Aye]

do one...hun

:boo hoo:

[SirDavidsNapper]

Offt Roy Keane doesn't hold back 😂 referee's an idiot

[Pretty Boy]

Good save Lloris albeit one I’d expect from him.

[BoomtownHibees]

It’s my opinion, if you disagree then say so rather then call it nonsense :aok:

Ok. I’m my opinion, your opinion is nonsense

[Pretty Boy]

Croatia throwing the kitchen sink at France. I’m going to say if they score before the hour they will win. If they don’t France will get another.

[Pretty Boy]

Pitch invaders whilst Croatia were breaking. Dicks.

[SteveHFC]

Pitch invasion.

[weecounty hibby]

The more times I see it from the front, the more a stick-on pen it becomes. The ref was behind the defender and didn't have that view in real-time.

As I've said before, marginal but a definite penalty. And I don't think there are that many on here agreeing with it. When you posted I think there were only a couple of us, with lots of dissent. After the halftime replays I reckon more will agree, despite the comments from Shearer et al.

Having seen it a number of times and heard the description of what constitutes a penalty then I'm still convinced it wasn't one

[weecounty hibby]

Pitch invaders whilst Croatia were breaking. Dicks.

They will go to the worst jail in Russia for a very very very long time. As probably will the security guys!

[Mibbes Aye]

Having seen it a number of times and heard the description of what constitutes a penalty then I'm still convinced it wasn't one

I get that. It's why I called it marginal and said I could see why it wouldn't be given.

It's very tight but what I would say is that it couldn't be described as a definite penalty or definite non-penalty. Some of us will think there was enough there and others will think there wasn't.

[Stevie Reid]

Having seen it a number of times and heard the description of what constitutes a penalty then I'm still convinced it wasn't one

Same here. Lineker read out the criteria and I don't think it matched any of them. Highly ambiguous at best.e

The bottom line is that that decision hasn't saved France from a great injustice (quite the opposite IMO), which is its function. If that's not given it maybe gets a cursory look and mention in the half time analysis, with someone saying "I've seen them given", at most.

However, if that is what decides the game, it will be spoken about for years and years. I don't want football to be like that.

[IGRIGI]

Game over.

[cabbageandribs1875]

nice goal 3-1 game over me thinks

[Mibbes Aye]

Good goal, poor defending.

[Mon Dieu4]

Lucky ****s

[Pretty Boy]

Some strike by Pogba. All came from his sublime pass 30 seconds earlier. Last 2 games he’s stepped up to the mark big time.

[hfc rd]

GIRFUY Graeme Souness!

[IGRIGI]

Keeper completely wrong footed there.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Good goal, that's it decided now.

[McIntosh]

Yes, France all the way. Can never, never support a team covered with Fascist symbols.

[cleanyman]

Yes, France all the way. Can never, never support a team covered with Fascist symbols.

Gies peace

[SirDavidsNapper]

Gutted for Croatia. Ref has changed this game

[stoneyburn hibs]

Yes, France all the way. Can never, never support a team covered with Fascist symbols.

Yawn

[Hibs90]

Great strike from Pogba to be fair. Keeper so static though. More goals in this game yet.

[Arch Stanton]

It didn't actually touch matuidi so he handballed it straight from the corner. It's a clear penalty and we'd all be screaming for it.

That's how I see it. A deliberate downward swipe of his hand to make contact with the ball.

[SanFranHibs]

Yes, France all the way. Can never, never support a team covered with Fascist symbols.

Seek help, seek help.

[heretoday]

I've stopped watching this. VAR is a piece of nonsense.
It's not appropriate for football which is a game that needs to flow.
Rugby and cricket OK. Not football. Sorry!

[Michael]

Yes, France all the way. Can never, never support a team covered with Fascist symbols.

The players will be anything but.

[Hibs90]

@AP
BREAKING: Pussy Riot claims responsibility for four people running onto field during World Cup final.
9:16 AM - 15 Jul 2018

****ing feminists again :rolleyes:

[McIntosh]

Yawn 4-1

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Brilliant

[Pretty Boy]

What’s the keeper doing there? Decent strike but should be a routine save.

[Mon Dieu4]

Good strike, real shame on Croatia they haven't deserved this

[Stevie Reid]

Brutal on Croatia, as good as the last two goals have been.

Undone by a shocker of a decision, IMO.