World Cup thread

[stoneyburn hibs]

3 goals from Sweden, with the third at the 92nd minute will very nearly be the event of my life.

[One Day Soon]

Easiest group as well.

Tunisia
Panama
Belgium

Columbia

Sweden

Ones in bold are no hopers.

In no way can you describe Colombia as no hopers. Unless you really did mean Columbia?

[Hermit Crab]

So people keep saying. Where is this better team? The final?

J


Croatia

[hibsbollah]

Problem is they aren't gonna face a better team till bloody Final...cannot believe the draw they've had...excruciating

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Croatia? Will tear them one I think.

[Bristolhibby]

Problem is they aren't gonna face a better team till bloody Final...cannot believe the draw they've had...excruciating

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Best thing that happened to England this tournament was to lose to Belgium.

J

[Iain G]

Raheem Sterling is pish.

[Borderhibbie76]

Croatia? Will tear them one I think.No convinced mate I have to say...

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[Bristolhibby]

Croatia? Will tear them one I think.

TBF that’s what I thought with Colombia and Sweden.

Maybe it’s because I’ve seen Scotland beat Croatia home and away that I’m not too confident.

I have a sneaky suspicion Russia might progress tonight.

J

[Jim44]

Sweden are a disgrace. The worst team ever to reach this stage of a World Cup.

[Dan Sarf]

One goal from Sweden. That’s all it will take...

[guthrie01]

In no way can you describe Colombia as no hopers. Unless you really did mean Columbia?

Without Rodriguez they where hopeless, still managed a draw against the unstoppable world beaters English team though

[JeMeSouviens]

Best thing that happened to England this tournament was to lose to Belgium.

J

Yeah, but the flipside is Belgium have come of age beating Brazil.

[bodhibs]

Raheem Sterling is pish.

Completely hopeless

[Borderhibbie76]

Best thing that happened to England this tournament was to lose to Belgium.

JAbsolutely that and all the shocks that have happened. No idea how Sweden made it this far tho....they are woeful

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[stoneyburn hibs]

Already arguing with English work colleagues...God help me if they win this I might need to emigrate [emoji85][emoji85][emoji85]

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Looking at it the other way, the closer they get then fall on their arse will be sweeter.

[Hermit Crab]

In no way can you describe Colombia as no hopers. Unless you really did mean Columbia?


They were crap! Horrendous tactics.

[JeMeSouviens]

Sweden are a disgrace. The worst team ever to reach this stage of a World Cup.

Quite similar setup to Charlton’s Ireland.

[hibsbollah]

Plan a hoof. Plan b hoof.

Sweden beat Germany. Such a strangely cack performance here.

[Colr]

Croatia? Will tear them one I think.

Don’t put it past Russia to mysteriously squeeze through!

[Michael]

Sweden are a disgrace. The worst team ever to reach this stage of a World Cup.

They're a disgrace for making the best of what they have?

[Borderhibbie76]

Looking at it the other way, the closer they get then fall on their arse will be sweeter.🤞🤞🤞

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[Borderhibbie76]

Plan a hoof. Plan b hoof.

Sweden beat Germany. Such a strangely cack performance here.They lost to Germany 2 1 mate

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[IGRIGI]

How bad were Italy to lose to this dross over two legs?

[One Day Soon]

Don’t put it past Russia to mysteriously squeeze through!

I think its almost a certainty.

[Hermit Crab]

Good saves but the shots are right at him. Either side and he scores ffs!

[Dan Sarf]

One goal from Sweden. That’s all it will take...

It’s coming...

[Mon Dieu4]

There hasn't been one save a competent goalie shouldn't be making, let's no go too mental eh

[hibsbollah]

Pickford has been immense. That's tremendous.

[scoopyboy]

Plan a hoof. Plan b hoof.

Sweden beat Germany. Such a strangely cack performance here.

When did Sweden beat Germany? Certainly not at this World Cup.

[One Day Soon]

How bad were Italy to lose to this dross over two legs?

Really, really bad. Lots of unhappiness in the camp, manager not liked, manager kept persisting with the old favourites Craig Brown style.

[Hermit Crab]

It’s coming...


So is Xmas!

[Borderhibbie76]

Good saves but the shots are right at him. Either side and he scores ffs!I know these commentators are just ridiculous honestly

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[SirDavidsNapper]

Good saves but the shots are right at him. Either side and he scores ffs!

Dont be silly. Absolutely breathtaking saves. Are you not listening to the commentator?

[Borderhibbie76]

So is Xmas!And rain [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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[hibsbollah]

They lost to Germany 2 1 mate

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Apologies you're right. They played very well against them though :greengrin

[Iain G]

Wish Big Sam was still in charge now...

[Dan Sarf]

So is Xmas!

It WILL be Christmas if The Volvos score!

[SirDavidsNapper]

And rain [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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And me if Sweden salvage this

[One Day Soon]

They were crap! Horrendous tactics.

Yep, but not no hopers.

[Smartie]

I think Sterling has played well.

No end product but his direct running has caused constant problems.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Really hope that the Croats can do the business tonight.

[Moulin Yarns]

And rain [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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Really? when?

[Borderhibbie76]

Really hope that the Croats can do the business tonight.It's our only hope of them not being in the final...come on Croatia

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[Craig_HFC]

The upside to all of this is that absolute cockwomble Mikael Lustig will be unhappy so it’s not all bad.

[One Day Soon]

I think Sterling has played well.

No end product but his direct running has caused constant problems.


That's the Keown view. Unseen work.

[Borderhibbie76]

And me if Sweden salvage thisMore chance of Hearts finishing their main stand mate

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[hibsbollah]

I think Sterling has played well.

No end product but his direct running has caused constant problems.

English Ivan. So useful in Russia maybe :greengrin

[SirDavidsNapper]

They're openly talking about winning it now. It'll be so pleasing when they don't

[Bishop Hibee]

England the better team. If Russia beat Croatia I fully expect England to get to the final. Worrying.

[Dan Sarf]

Sweden should have picked a couple of those blondes. England wouldn’t have been able to concentrate.

[Moulin Yarns]

C'mon Sweden, just seen shots of their fans, so more pleasing on the eyes than the Engerlund fans :wink:

[hibsbollah]

It's our only hope of them not being in the final...come on Croatia

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Putin won't allow his boys to lose to England. Its over for them who ever wins the other tie.

[One Day Soon]

More chance of Hearts finishing their main stand mate

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Agnetha Budgeskog?

[guthrie01]

Highlight of this game is the Swedish girls in the crowd :fire:

[Mibbes Aye]

They're openly talking about winning it now. It'll be so pleasing when they don't

I didn't hear that talk, but when you're almost certainly in the semi-finals, then it's understandable there's chat about winning, isn't there?

No different from on here, when we've got to semis.

[Moulin Yarns]

Putin won't allow his boys to lose to England. Its over for them who ever wins the other tie.

grudge match if it is Russia. Salisbury will be mentioned at every opportunity

[we are hibs]

This slow walk off the park thing at subs should be bookings

[Jim44]

Did I hear the commentator saying they could get the packaging ready for taking the trophy home?

[we are hibs]

If I was Swedish I'd just start taking bodies now. Leave a few calling cards on the opposition

[Dan Sarf]

If I was Swedish I'd just start taking bodies now. Leave a few calling cards on the opposition

Nice.

[Hibbyradge]

If I was Swedish I'd just start taking bodies now. Leave a few calling cards on the opposition

Ooft. You're hurting bad.

[SirDavidsNapper]

Taking a free kick is going for it apparently

[cabbageandribs1875]

good for the world cup that sweden are finally out, what a horrible team to watch

[Hermit Crab]

That Guy Mowbray, the commentator must be ready to jizz his boxers, he's a York City fan so he's used to disappointment. This must be heaven for him.

[One Day Soon]

If I was Swedish I'd just start taking bodies now. Leave a few calling cards on the opposition

What for?

[SirDavidsNapper]

That Guy Mowbray, the commentator must be ready to jizz his boxers, he's a York City fan so he's used to disappointment. This must be heaven for him.

Awfull commentator

[we are hibs]

Ooft. You're hurting bad.

Erm no. I'm stating what I would do if I was Swedish and knew the game was gone. They'd be showing more now doing that than they have for the last 89 minutes anyway

[Hermit Crab]

Awfull commentator


The less said about Keown the better.

[Hermit Crab]

Good position for a free kick, make it count and give them a nervy last few minutes.

[Hermit Crab]

Horrendous free kick. Poor, poor stuff.

[Lago]

Gareth Southgate has made a tremendous difference to this England team, deserves a pat on the back for his approach.

[Iggy Pope]

Erm no. I'm stating what I would do if I was Swedish and knew the game was gone. They'd be showing more now doing that than they have for the last 89 minutes anyway

You're off your head.

[Sprouleflyer]

Sweden are pish, thank **** they are going out, boring, boring team to watch,

[JimboHibs]

That Guy Mowbray, the commentator must be ready to jizz his boxers, he's a York City fan so he's used to disappointment. This must be heaven for him.

Fair to say our commentators jizzed their pants when we were in heaven.

[One Day Soon]

You're off your head.


:tee hee:

[givescotlandfreedom]

When's the trophy presentation?

[Mibbes Aye]

Such bitterness from a good few posters about England winning.

I was away with work for the Colombia game, but read this thread later and again, it was full of 'chip on the shoulder' seethe and resentment.

Seriously, the commentators aren't any more biased than ours would be, should Scotland ever get to the WC QFs, probably less so.

And England's run has been what it is. We got some easy draws in 2007 and we weren't moaning or saying it lessened the sweetness of the victory.

[One Day Soon]

Sweden are pish, thank **** they are going out, boring, boring team to watch,

utterly rank.

[madhatter]

Fair to say our commentators jizzed their pants when we were in heaven.

This is the BBC, not England TV...

[givescotlandfreedom]

Gareth Southgate has made a tremendous difference to this England team, deserves a pat on the back for his approach.

He's done a really good job. Stood by them after he was knocked back for Big Sam. Seems a decent bloke too.

[givescotlandfreedom]

This is the BBC, not England TV...

Yeah the license payer doesn't have to pay for Hibs TV.

[Scouse Hibee]

All going to plan so far, imagine what England can achieve if they actually start to play rather than just doing enough to beat the lesser quality of opposition in this side of the draw. Exciting times ahead.


IT'S STILL COMING HOME :greengrin

[Hermit Crab]

Belgiums reserves?? Bit disrespectful is it not?

[guthrie01]

Who won ?

[Thecat23]

England winning with ease, never came out second gear. I do feel they haven’t been tested at all really. Belgium game both teams rested and didn’t want to win it. I do think Croatia would beat them and also France and Belgium.

[One Day Soon]

Easily deserved to win that. Now, let's see what Vlad's got.

[Hermit Crab]

All going to plan so far, imagine what England can achieve if they actually start to play rather than just doing enough to beat the lesser quality of opposition in this side of the draw. Exciting times ahead.


IT'S STILL COMING HOME :greengrin






Reported!

[Scotty Leither]

This commentary Mowbray needs to put away the cliche book.

[SirDavidsNapper]

Is this how Hearts fans felt in 2016?

[Dan Sarf]

Well done England. Best not touch any door handles for a bit.

[One Day Soon]

Belgiums reserves?? Bit disrespectful is it not?

Not really, they pretty much were and the point he was making was that they couldn't keep a clean sheet against their reserves.

[Dan Sarf]

Who won ?


The boyfriend of that blonde

[SirDavidsNapper]

The boyfriend of that blonde

😂

[CropleyWasGod]

Well done England. Best not touch any door handles for a bit.

Just what I was thinking.

That big ******* Novichock is a right handful.

[One Day Soon]

This is the BBC, not England TV...

English commentators, commentating on an England game as they go into the semi finals of the World Cup. Can't really see the problem.

[ancient hibee]

This is the BBC, not England TV...
I see Barry Davis is retiring.When he stopped doing the football I started turning the volume down so I couldn’t hear what they were saying.There’s an Aidan Smith interview with him in today’s Scotsman which is entertaining.

[mjhibby]

Such bitterness from a good few posters about England winning.

I was away with work for the Colombia game, but read this thread later and again, it was full of 'chip on the shoulder' seethe and resentment.

Seriously, the commentators aren't any more biased than ours would be, should Scotland ever get to the WC QFs, probably less so.

And England's run has been what it is. We got some easy draws in 2007 and we weren't moaning or saying it lessened the sweetness of the victory.

This is an England team ranked 12 in the world who are torture to watch. The English press are cringe worthy embarrassingly ott about an average team. They are not in the same league as Belgium France or Brazil but have avoided them in the draw. It is the BBC and itv Britain not England. The TV and press are a freekung joke and I fully understand why people get so annoyed with the commentary. Thankfully I'm abroad so no idea what the commentators are saying. Abe as super Andy said.

[Golden Bear]

Yup, well done England. I'd have no petty hang ups if they went on to win it outright.

[Scouse Hibee]

Belgiums reserves?? Bit disrespectful is it not?

Only if you want it to be.

[One Day Soon]

Is this how Hearts fans felt in 2016?

What, not that bothered?

[Moulin Yarns]

Just what I was thinking.

That big ******* Novichock is a right handful.

Could be all over them :wink:

Said earlier, could be a grudge match

[SteveHFC]

All going to plan so far, imagine what England can achieve if they actually start to play rather than just doing enough to beat the lesser quality of opposition in this side of the draw. Exciting times ahead.


IT'S STILL COMING HOME :greengrin




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[NOLA]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180707/77fe7d327129882b8ea72cdc01229a59.png. Taking it too far [emoji854]


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[JeMeSouviens]

English commentators, commentating on an England game as they go into the semi finals of the World Cup. Can't really see the problem.

The problem is I have to listen to the *******!

[calumhibee1]

Yup, well done England. I'd have no petty hang ups if they went on to win it outright.

Likewise. Been decent to watch and deserve to be where they are.

[One Day Soon]

This is an England team ranked 12 in the world who are torture to watch. The English press are cringe worthy embarrassingly ott about an average team. They are not in the same league as Belgium France or Brazil but have avoided them in the draw. It is the BBC and itv Britain not England. The TV and press are a freekung joke and I fully understand why people get so annoyed with the commentary. Thankfully I'm abroad so no idea what the commentators are saying. Abe as super Andy said.

How do you fully understand if you're abroad and have no idea what they're saying? :wink:

[AltheHibby]

Yup, well done England. I'd have no petty hang ups if they went on to win it outright.

I would love it to happen. I just hope Russia lose tonight as it would make life a bit safer for the England fans over there. 😁

[hfc rd]

Pickford must be one of the best GK’s they have had for a long time

[JeMeSouviens]

Pickford must be one of the best GK’s they have had for a long time

Been excellent.

[One Day Soon]

The problem is I have to listen to the *******!

Reach for your inner ambivalence, it makes them entirely bearable.

[madhatter]

Yeah the license payer doesn't have to pay for Hibs TV.

Don’t understand your point, I pay the TV license but still get biased English coverage... Would biased Scottish media get broadcasted in England? Highly doubt it.

I pay for Hibs TV because I want to get coverage about Hibs, I expect BBC (British in the name) to be more neutral especially since everyone pays the license (or should at least). This “back home” stuff is tedious, some people chose not to support England but the media coverage gives the illusion that everyone watching via the BBC is rooting for England...

[Hibbyradge]

This is the BBC, not England TV...

It's British. England are British.

The commentators and pundits are English.

95% if the audience want England to win.

What's so difficult to understand?

If Scotland were in this position, even the English commentators would be biased towards Scotland.

If you're that upset, send in a letter of complaint. I'd be interested to read it, and their reply.

[Moulin Yarns]

one benefit IF they go on to win it, 1966 will be mentioned less than every second sentence

[ancient hibee]

This is an England team ranked 12 in the world who are torture to watch. The English press are cringe worthy embarrassingly ott about an average team. They are not in the same league as Belgium France or Brazil but have avoided them in the draw. It is the BBC and itv Britain not England. The TV and press are a freekung joke and I fully understand why people get so annoyed with the commentary. Thankfully I'm abroad so no idea what the commentators are saying. Abe as super Andy said.
You are obviously psychic in that you fully understand why people are annoyed with the commentary despite having no idea what is being said.:greengrin

[Smartie]

A very comfortable win.

I wonder if the easy path to the semis might work against them though? They haven't really been tested yet.

Belgium have already knocked out some good sides, as have France, as have Croatia, which will give them confidence.

How will England cope with their first big setback or their first big test?

[One Day Soon]

I see Barry Davis is retiring.When he stopped doing the football I started turning the volume down so I couldn’t hear what they were saying.There’s an Aidan Smith interview with him in today’s Scotsman which is entertaining.

I always found him the most grating.

[Hermit Crab]

Theres an absolute trumpet I work with who's used up his entire years Lieu Leave taking 2 days off every time England play, its going to be a long 6 months for him with no leave left and a broken heart.


:rotflmao::LOL: :faf:

[JeMeSouviens]

Reach for your inner ambivalence, it makes them entirely bearable.

I survived H*****s winning in 98 after assuming it would never happen. This is so what compared to that.

[Hibbyradge]

Is this how Hearts fans felt in 2016?

:agree:

[NOLA]

You’d have to say once they come up against a decent team they might struggle so I’m hoping Croatia [emoji1082] win tonight because they have had it easy sofar


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[Scouse Hibee]

Don’t understand your point, I pay the TV license but still get biased English coverage... Would biased Scottish media get broadcasted in England? Highly doubt it.

I pay for Hibs TV because I want to get coverage about Hibs, I expect BBC (British in the name) to be more neutral especially since everyone pays the license (or should at least). This “back home” stuff is tedious, some people chose not to support England but the media coverage gives the illusion that everyone watching via the BBC is rooting for England...


Oh come on get real, the commentary on the BBC would be just as biased towards Scotland, Wales or Ireland if they were in the same position, British Broadcasting Corporation being biased towards a British team......................whatever next!

[CropleyWasGod]

Don’t understand your point, I pay the TV license but still get biased English coverage... Would biased Scottish media get broadcasted in England? Highly doubt it.

I pay for Hibs TV because I want to get coverage about Hibs, I expect BBC (British in the name) to be more neutral especially since everyone pays the license (or should at least). This “back home” stuff is tedious, some people chose not to support England but the media coverage gives the illusion that everyone watching via the BBC is rooting for England...

IIRC, the BBC and ITV were pretty full-on when Wales had their great run in the Euros. I don't remember too many licence-payers, Scots or English, complaining then.

[One Day Soon]

Don’t understand your point, I pay the TV license but still get biased English coverage... Would biased Scottish media get broadcasted in England? Highly doubt it.

I pay for Hibs TV because I want to get coverage about Hibs, I expect BBC (British in the name) to be more neutral especially since everyone pays the license (or should at least). This “back home” stuff is tedious, some people chose not to support England but the media coverage gives the illusion that everyone watching via the BBC is rooting for England...


:yawn2:

[Hermit Crab]

Ram yer "wonderful" scenes throughout the country, please show the same scenes when you're humped out!

[mjhibby]

How do you fully understand if you're abroad and have no idea what they're saying? :wink:

My mates are relaying exactly what they are saying. Mobiles and the Internet still work abroad.

[Iggy Pope]

Be prepared though all ABE-ers. Russia v Croatia may be absorbing but it WILL be an analysis of England's performance here, England's chances in the semi, and England's chances in the final of England's chances of bringing football home to Partick.
You may also hear stories about Jordan Pickford (Kingdmom of Jordan) but maybe less about awkward weird looking footballer Jordan (prince of Nivea). And Prince Harry will be amongst it and Consort Harry the other one. It's gone quiet about that wee terrorist ******* Sterling, but bide your time, you'll make up for it with footage of radges throwing beer about in Croydon (wherever that is).
You cannot avoid this other than your turning your volume buttons to mute and setting Scouse ****s and suchlike to Ignore.
Happily you will not have to listen to Shearer tonight no matter what. He will be back though.

I'm happy they are still in it. It helps keep interest for us non-hipsters.

Oi! Oi! Gabby's on!

[Scouse Hibee]

Ram yer "wonderful" scenes throughout the country, please show the same scenes when you're humped out!


:faf: :na na:

[Lago]

It's British. England are British.

The commentators and pundits are English.

95% if the audience want England to win.

What's so difficult to understand?

If Scotland were in this position, even the English commentators would be biased towards Scotland.

If you're that upset, send in a letter of complaint. I'd be interested to read it, and their reply.
Kyle Edmund to win Wimbledon :agree:

[McSwanky]

Ram yer "wonderful" scenes throughout the country, please show the same scenes when you're humped out!I'm sure they will, if and when it happens

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[we are hibs]

Is this how Hearts fans felt in 2016?

Not really as England won't see it through. There bottle will crash against Croatia in the semi finals and modric and Rakatic will run rings around Henderson and co.

[Scouse Hibee]

Be prepared though all ABE-ers. Russia v Croatia may be absorbing but it WILL be an analysis of England's performance here, England's chances in the semi, and England's chances in the final of England's chances of bringing football home to Partick.
You may also hear stories about Jordan Pickford (Kingdmom of Jordan) but maybe less about awkward weird looking footballer Jordan (prince of Nivea). And Prince Harry will be amongst it and Consort Harry the other one. It's gone quiet about that wee terrorist ******* Sterling, but bide your time, you'll make up for it with footage of radges throwing beer about in Croydon (wherever that is).
You cannot avoid this other than your turning your volume buttons to mute and setting Scouse ****s and suchlike to Ignore.
Happily you will not have to listen to Shearer tonight no matter what. He will be back though.

I'm happy they are still in it. It helps keep interest for us non-hipsters.

Oi! Oi! Gabby's on!

:aok:

[One Day Soon]

My mates are relaying exactly what they are saying. Mobiles and the Internet still work abroad.

I see. So when you said you had no idea what they were saying what you meant was you knew exactly what they were saying?

I've not got a clue what you're saying, that's for sure.

[JeMeSouviens]

Not really as England won't see it through. There bottle will crash against Croatia in the semi finals and modric and Rakatic will run rings around Henderson and co.

Dodgy at the back though. Lovren and the dodgy hairdo guy are both bombscare.

[madhatter]

It's British. England are British.

The commentators and pundits are English.

95% if the audience want England to win.

What's so difficult to understand?

If Scotland were in this position, even the English commentators would be biased towards Scotland.

If you're that upset, send in a letter of complaint. I'd be interested to read it, and your reply.

95% of Britain want England to win, behave...you done the maths on that one? Apart from the fact there are immigrants supporting their own nations which will clearly decrease that percentage...you’d never be able to get an accurate percentage for that.

English commentators would never be that biased if Scotland were to get far into the competition, that’s like saying the Celtic TV guy would be ecstatic should Hibs get far into the Europa League. Indifference is what I’d assume he’d feel.

I pay my TV license just the same as the rest of the “95%” as you put it, why shouldn’t I get a neutral coverage? Imagine Scotland vs England with this media coverage...would they root for Scotland if we beat them? No.

[Hibbyradge]

Not really as England won't see it through. There bottle will crash against Croatia in the semi finals and modric and Rakatic will run rings around Henderson and co.

You've said something very similar before each England game.

I guess you'll get it right one time.

Maybe.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Sweden were woeful at the back especially down the right hand side and in reality could have won it if not for the deluded ones gobby keeper with three great saves.

Still not played a decent team yet.

It will come soon enough :wink:

[heretoday]

Those oafs on Off the Ball are on about 1966!

Are we not supposed to be fed up hearing about that?

They're desperate for material is the truth.

[Scouse Hibee]

Not really as England won't see it through. There bottle will crash against Croatia in the semi finals and modric and Rakatic will run rings around Henderson and co.


As it was said about Colombia.......................then Sweden.........................then............... ..........:faf:

Make your mind up FFS :greengrin

[One Day Soon]

Be prepared though all ABE-ers. Russia v Croatia may be absorbing but it WILL be an analysis of England's performance here, England's chances in the semi, and England's chances in the final of England's chances of bringing football home to Partick.
You may also hear stories about Jordan Pickford (Kingdmom of Jordan) but maybe less about awkward weird looking footballer Jordan (prince of Nivea). And Prince Harry will be amongst it and Consort Harry the other one. It's gone quiet about that wee terrorist ******* Sterling, but bide your time, you'll make up for it with footage of radges throwing beer about in Croydon (wherever that is).
You cannot avoid this other than your turning your volume buttons to mute and setting Scouse ****s and suchlike to Ignore.
Happily you will not have to listen to Shearer tonight no matter what. He will be back though.

I'm happy they are still in it. It helps keep interest for us non-hipsters.

Oi! Oi! Gabby's on!

All the essential statesmanlike informed briefing that you'll ever need right here from Iggy.

[CropleyWasGod]

95% of Britain want England to win, behave...you done the maths on that one? Apart from the fact there are immigrants supporting their own nations which will clearly decrease that percentage...you’d never be able to get an accurate percentage for that.

English commentators would never be that biased if Scotland were to get far into the competition, that’s like saying the Celtic TV guy would be ecstatic should Hibs get far into the Europa League. Indifference is what I’d assume he’d feel.

I pay my TV license just the same as the rest of the “95%” as you put it, why shouldn’t I get a neutral coverage? Imagine Scotland vs England with this media coverage...would they root for Scotland if we beat them? No.

He said "95% of the audience". There's a difference.

And they were that "biased" towards Wales 2 years ago.

[Mibbes Aye]

This is an England team ranked 12 in the world who are torture to watch. The English press are cringe worthy embarrassingly ott about an average team. They are not in the same league as Belgium France or Brazil but have avoided them in the draw. It is the BBC and itv Britain not England. The TV and press are a freekung joke and I fully understand why people get so annoyed with the commentary. Thankfully I'm abroad so no idea what the commentators are saying. Abe as super Andy said.

How about you provide lots of examples of cringeworthy embarrassment that's OTT about an average team, to back your statement up?

You've said all the English press are at it, so I'll expect evidence from the Guardian, the Independent, the Times, the Telegraph, the FT, the Mail, the Express, the Sun, the Mirror and the Star. And maybe even the Morning Star and the Metro?

Or maybe you just made that up.

[JeMeSouviens]

Those oafs on Off the Ball are on about 1966!

Are we not supposed to be fed up hearing about that?

They're desperate for material is the truth.

Tam Cowan? Think he ran out of material around 66!

[One Day Soon]

95% of Britain want England to win, behave...you done the maths on that one? Apart from the fact there are immigrants supporting their own nations which will clearly decrease that percentage...you’d never be able to get an accurate percentage for that.

English commentators would never be that biased if Scotland were to get far into the competition, that’s like saying the Celtic TV guy would be ecstatic should Hibs get far into the Europa League. Indifference is what I’d assume he’d feel.

I pay my TV license just the same as the rest of the “95%” as you put it, why shouldn’t I get a neutral coverage? Imagine Scotland vs England with this media coverage...would they root for Scotland if we beat them? No.

You've really gone the full McGlashan haven't you?

[hfc rd]

I don’t want them to win it but they’ve definitely got a chance.

[we are hibs]

You've said something very similar before each England game.

I guess you'll get it right one time.

Maybe.

No I haven't.


As it was said about Colombia.......................then Sweden.........................then............... ..........:faf:

Make your mind up FFS :greengrin

I didn't say anything of the sort before the Sweden game. I said I fancied Colombia to beat England but that was before James got injured. If he was fully fit they'd have beaten them no bother

[One Day Soon]

Tam Cowan? Think he ran out of material around 66!

You're not kidding, but shouldn't you be sunning yourself on a beach in God's own country?

[Hibbyradge]

95% of Britain want England to win, behave...you done the maths on that one? Apart from the fact there are immigrants supporting their own nations which will clearly decrease that percentage...you’d never be able to get an accurate percentage for that.

English commentators would never be that biased if Scotland were to get far into the competition, that’s like saying the Celtic TV guy would be ecstatic should Hibs get far into the Europa League. Indifference is what I’d assume he’d feel.

I pay my TV license just the same as the rest of the “95%” as you put it, why shouldn’t I get a neutral coverage? Imagine Scotland vs England with this media coverage...would they root for Scotland if we beat them? No.

95% of the TV audience will want them to win. If not 95%, what number would you suggest?

You're going to be disappointed for the rest of your life if you think that English commentators and pundits are going to be neutral when their country's teams are playing.

[ancient hibee]

Tam Cowan? Think he ran out of material around 66!

Certainly fat enough to stretch his material.

[Iggy Pope]

All the essential statesmanlike informed briefing that you'll ever need right here from Iggy.

Ah. If only being the Statesman ever came into the footie. You've hated half the world on this thread alone.
Gotta go here's er...Fabian Delph, that's it, Fabian Delph. And he's talking about his family.

[madhatter]

He said "95% of the audience". There's a difference.

And they were that "biased" towards Wales 2 years ago.

How’d he know that 95% of the audience supported England? My point stands, he’d have no clue who was watching.

Biased towards Wales, yes. This biased, no. Maybe it is just me but I don’t want it to be biased at all, as I stated this isn’t England TV, Scotland TV, Wales TV, it’s the BBC so just keep it neutral and cover the football.

[JeMeSouviens]

You're not kidding, but shouldn't you be sunning yourself on a beach in God's own country?

Yes, but rels visiting today so heading up tomorrow morning.

[One Day Soon]

Did Fabian Delph really just describe his wife as "an absolute machine" in that interview? :tee hee:

[Scouse Hibee]

No I haven't.



I didn't say anything of the sort before the Sweden game. I said I fancied Colombia to beat England but that was before James got injured. If he was fully fit they'd have beaten them no bother


:faf: But wait...............IF.........................IF

Absolutely hilarious reading the state of panic and hysteria on here.

[Carheenlea]

Is this how Hearts fans felt in 2016?

Hearts fans hate us to the extent that us winning the Cup in 2016 ripped the guts out of them. While I’m sure a few Scots might feel similar should England go all the way, but a lot, myself included, are quite enjoying it and rooting, or half rooting for them. I’m more in the half rooting for them camp - pleased for them when they win, but if they get knocked out in the semis or lose the final, then there is entertainment to be had from that.

[One Day Soon]

Ah. If only being the Statesman ever came into the footie. You've hated half the world on this thread alone.
Gotta go here's er...Fabian Delph, that's it, Fabian Delph. And he's talking about his family.

Don't undersell yourself. And I've hated about a quarter of the world across two threads, that takes effort you know.

[Sammy7nil]

95% of Britain want England to win, behave...you done the maths on that one? Apart from the fact there are immigrants supporting their own nations which will clearly decrease that percentage...you’d never be able to get an accurate percentage for that.

English commentators would never be that biased if Scotland were to get far into the competition, that’s like saying the Celtic TV guy would be ecstatic should Hibs get far into the Europa League. Indifference is what I’d assume he’d feel.

I pay my TV license just the same as the rest of the “95%” as you put it, why shouldn’t I get a neutral coverage? Imagine Scotland vs England with this media coverage...would they root for Scotland if we beat them? No.

95 % of all statistics are made up :greengrin

:aok:

He won't see it He is ignoring you :greengrin

[SquashedFrogg]

He said "95% of the audience". There's a difference.

And they were that "biased" towards Wales 2 years ago.

Difference is we quite like Wales 😃

[Scouse Hibee]

95 % of all statistics are made up :greengrin


He won't see it He is ignoring you :greengrin


I doubt it :greengrin

[madhatter]

95% of the TV audience will want them to win. If not 95%, what number would you suggest?

You're going to be disappointed for the rest of your life if you think that English commentators and pundits are going to be neutral when their country's teams are playing.

Can’t know 95%, I’m not going to quote a percentage as I don’t have a clue, as neither will you. Plenty people have migrated here and watch football, they may even support their country rather than England.

Here’s an idea, invite non-English commentators and pundits on to the show more often? Ask them to provide a more neutral account of the game rather than having Keown, surely that is quite simple. I’m not expecting English commentators and pundits not to support their country but when it’s broadcasted across the UK, just have a more neutral selection, if commentator cannot remain neutral have the Keown replacement as a neutral party.

[Pete]

I wish they’d stop talking about 1990 as if it was some period of ancient history.

Does anyone else now feel old and in the way?

[heretoday]

Did Fabian Delph really just describe his wife as "an absolute machine" in that interview? :tee hee:

Is his wife called Jordan by any chance?

[Killiehibbie]

England have done well and if they get Russia I hope they beat them but i'm hoping for a Belgium v Croatia final.

[McIntosh]

Well done to England, a totally deserved victory. I hope they get to the final and good luck to them if they get there.

[IGRIGI]

With the anti-Russian hysteria from the UK government I hope to god it's them that puts them out, would be hilarious.

[JimboHibs]

This is the BBC, not England TV...

You seem upset 🙄.What u expect 😂😂 if that was Scotland we'd be milking it big time.

[Billy Whizz]

:faf: But wait...............IF.........................IF

Absolutely hilarious reading the state of panic and hysteria on here.

Great day for you SH, an England win, and Liverpool win 0-7 at Chester

[Hermit Crab]

Great day for you SH, an England win, and Liverpool win 0-7 at Chester


Dunfermline took a tanking off Tranmere Rovers today (0-4), his real team. :wink:

[Jim44]

England have done well and if they get Russia I hope they beat them but i'm hoping for a Belgium v Croatia final.

:agree: I think England v Russia or Croatia would be 50-50 but they don’t have the remotest chance of winning the final unless their opponents have a nightmare, which I don’t see.

[Scotty Leither]

With the anti-Russian hysteria from the UK government I hope to god it's them that puts them out, would be hilarious.

This...

[Pete]

With the anti-Russian hysteria from the UK government I hope to god it's them that puts them out, would be hilarious.

I’d rather personally watch England win every match they ever played in for the next fifty years than see Russia winning another single game.

God awful team who deserve to be horsed out immediately. In fact, they deserved that a longtime ago.

[madhatter]

You seem upset 🙄.What u expect 😂😂 if that was Scotland we'd be milking it big time.

Not understanding this reply to my post, it’s the BBC. I’d expect it not to resemble England TV...

England and Britain seem to be used synonymously worldwide. I guess you can forgive that but if we have the BBC and they don’t give neutral account of things, whether it be football or otherwise, then when does Scotland and Wales stop being a region of Britain rather than distinct countries?

Scotland milking it being broadcasted across the UK? Nah, it’ll be regionalised coverage.

I don’t have a problem with their run so far, they’ve deserved to get this far. Sweden were a huge disappointment today, didn’t really seem to give it a proper go for some reason.

[Hibbyradge]

Can’t know 95%, I’m not going to quote a percentage as I don’t have a clue, as neither will you. Plenty people have migrated here and watch football, they may even support their country rather than England.



In which case my estimate is as valid as any other.

I doubt the immigrants in this country have the same objections to the commentary as you. They probably don't have the same problem with England that you clearly do.

However, do you reckon American commentators reign in their commentary because there are 50m immigrants in the country?

Do Scottish commentators stay neutral because folk from abroad have settled in our country?

I'll bet you don't moan about the commentary when England finally lose. You'll enjoy that.

FWIW, I don't like listening to them either. I just don't have your unreasonable expectations.

[Iggy Pope]

95 % of all statistics are made up :greengrin


He won't see it He is ignoring you :greengrin

Quite :wink::wink: it's like not buying The Sun or one of those. Quite easy.

[mjhibby]

How about you provide lots of examples of cringeworthy embarrassment that's OTT about an average team, to back your statement up?

You've said all the English press are at it, so I'll expect evidence from the Guardian, the Independent, the Times, the Telegraph, the FT, the Mail, the Express, the Sun, the Mirror and the Star. And maybe even the Morning Star and the Metro?

Or maybe you just made that up.

Go and look at the headlines before making silly statements like that. You are either tongue in cheek or haven't seen the headlines. They are totally embarrassing. As I said if engerland had a cracking side who had players like hazard and debruyne I would accept they are a fine side and wouldn't mind them winning. They are like the sevco side who got to the oofa Cup final. Dull as dishwater and tedious to watch. They will all be honoured no doubt whatever happens. The best two teams are France and Belgium but unfortunately one won't be in the final. To say England are one of the four best teams in the world is hysterical. If they can beat Croatia and Belgium or France then they deserve it. Does anybody really think they will do it or either want them to win or are worrying it might happen.

[Spike Mandela]

Oh come on get real, the commentary on the BBC would be just as biased towards Scotland, Wales or Ireland if they were in the same position, British Broadcasting Corporation being biased towards a British team......................whatever next!

What is so hard to understand? It IS the English coverage. It’s just Match of the day on the road.

I have no qualms with English fans, commentators etc getting excited about England progressing it’s only natural but I am fed up enduring the constant England angle on every single game I have tried to watch this world cup.

You are being disingenuous about it being be the same no matter what British team was doing well. Linekar et al would pay lip service and some would be patronising it just wouldn’t be the same.

Can you imagine if only Scotland had qualified and the entire World cup coverage was based around Sportscene presenters and pundits with a report from the Scotland camp during every single gsme beamed into every household in the UK.. No you can’t because it would never happen and it didn’t happen in 74 or 78.

As far as The British Broadcasting corporation is considered Scotland is merely considered a region and is very much treated as such.

I rarely watch Match of the day but watch all the Scottish football and radio coverage I can. I love it. Love some pundits, detest some others but I love it and I love their insight very much from a Scottish angle that I relate to and it really irks me when I have to sacrifice that every time a tournament comes round to watch a rival nation’s coverage.

However, it was ever thus and no doubt always will be and I deal with it these days with a mute button and precision timing of tuniing in for the actual games.��

[mjhibby]

I'll bet the mute button was used all over Scotland or people suddenly got the urge to do some gardening. Lol.

[Tobias Funke]

:faf: But wait...............IF.........................IF

Absolutely hilarious reading the state of panic and hysteria on here.

No panic or hysteria here. I’m very non plussed about the whole thing. England win, so what. My life goes on regardless. Providing Croatia win later on there are significantly sterner tests awaiting England. Croatia, France and Belgium are far better (Croatia arguably less so but still superior). Momentum is with England but they’ve had the rub of the green with the way the draw has planned out. It’s aboit to get a lot tougher.

[AltheHibby]

I wish they’d stop talking about 1990 as if it was some period of ancient history.

Does anyone else now feel old and in the way?

As someone who gave his date of birth of 28/10/62 to a spotty yoof and was asked "is that 1962" I already feel ancient.

BTW, if the FA had had the guts to appoint Brian Clough I am convinced that England would have won it.

[SirDavidsNapper]

I've no issues with the English commentators, presenters, news anchors getting excited and telling us to celebrate tonight etc. It's their country. It's just grinds my gears the rest of us all have to be subjected to it. I bet the Welsh are saying the same thing.

[mjhibby]

How’d he know that 95% of the audience supported England? My point stands, he’d have no clue who was watching.

Biased towards Wales, yes. This biased, no. Maybe it is just me but I don’t want it to be biased at all, as I stated this isn’t England TV, Scotland TV, Wales TV, it’s the BBC so just keep it neutral and cover the football.

Here here. Well said sir. Some good old fashioned common sense. It'll never catch on you know.

[Scouse Hibee]

Great day for you SH, an England win, and Liverpool win 0-7 at Chester


:agree: And the "glassman" Sturridge scored twice

[madhatter]

In which case my estimate is as valid as any other.

I doubt the immigrants in this country have the same objections to the commentary as you. They probably don't have the same problem with England that you clearly do.

However, do you reckon American commentators reign in their commentary because there are 50m immigrants in the country?

Do Scottish commentators stay neutral because folk from abroad have settled in our country?

I'll bet you don't moan about the commentary when England finally lose. You'll enjoy that.

FWIW, I don't like listening to them either. I just don't have your unreasonable expectations.

Unreasonable expectations? It's almost like English votes for English laws debate. BBC are supposed to give Britain coverage. If they cannot remain neutral then the BBC should either be rebranded English Broadcasting Corporation or there should be separate divisions where each distinct country gets their own coverage. I don't think that is unreasonable at all. The members of the EU don't all watch the same coverage with the same commentators, even those that speak the same language.

Stating I have a problem with England is almost the same as the exertion about percentages, based on nothing. I have a problem with the commentary, not with England.

Scottish commentators argument - Scottish media does not get broadcast throughout Britain, that's the argument. You don't see Sportscene in England.

I will celebrate when England lose, you are correct. No more updates from the England camp when they aren't even playing on that day, no more interviews with players during the half-time between 2 other teams, no more talking about each of their players as if they were world class. Got the hint yet, I have a problem with the media coverage...

By the end of this tournament Pickford will be one of the best goalkeepers in the world...

[IGRIGI]

I think if the French had to watch German coverage or if the Portuguese had to watch Spanish coverage their reactions would be even worse than the ABE group.

Best to vote for independence the next time round so we get proper Scottish coverage for the real Scots and the quislings can still tune into their Lawrensons and Linekers.




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[Scouse Hibee]

Unreasonable expectations? It's almost like English votes for English laws debate. BBC are supposed to give Britain coverage. If they cannot remain neutral then the BBC should either be rebranded English Broadcasting Corporation or there should be separate divisions where each distinct country gets their own coverage. I don't think that is unreasonable at all. The members of the EU don't all watch the same coverage with the same commentators, even those that speak the same language.

Stating I have a problem with England is almost the same as the exertion about percentages, based on nothing. I have a problem with the commentary, not with England.

Scottish commentators argument - Scottish media does not get broadcast throughout Britain, that's the argument. You don't see Sportscene in England.

I will celebrate when England lose, you are correct. No more updates from the England camp when they aren't even playing on that day, no more interviews with players during the half-time between 2 other teams, no more talking about each of their players as if they were world class. Got the hint yet, I have a problem with the media coverage...

By the end of this tournament Pickford will be one of the best goalkeepers in the world...

This has either got to be true or the most over used excuse ever in Scotland. I honestly can't decide either way. BTW not aimed at you directly but generally in every different environment from pub, to bowls club, to work, I hear this reason/excuse

[Mibbes Aye]

Go and look at the headlines before making silly statements like that. You are either tongue in cheek or haven't seen the headlines. They are totally embarrassing. As I said if engerland had a cracking side who had players like hazard and debruyne I would accept they are a fine side and wouldn't mind them winning. They are like the sevco side who got to the oofa Cup final. Dull as dishwater and tedious to watch. They will all be honoured no doubt whatever happens. The best two teams are France and Belgium but unfortunately one won't be in the final. To say England are one of the four best teams in the world is hysterical. If they can beat Croatia and Belgium or France then they deserve it. Does anybody really think they will do it or either want them to win or are worrying it might happen.

It was you who said the English press were cringeworthy and embarrassing and OTT.

Now you're saying it was just the headlines.

OK. As I say, feel free to back yourself up. The Guardian, the Independent, the Telegraph, the Times, the FT, the Mail, the Express, the Sun, the Mirror, the Star and so on.

Let's see the headlines from all those papers to back your post up.......

[WoreTheGreen]

I'll bet the mute button was used all over Scotland or people suddenly got the urge to do some gardening. Lol.

Did exactly both. Are you Hoddels fortune teller

[madhatter]

This has either got to be true or the most over used excuse ever in Scotland. I honestly can't decide either way.

Play Sportscene throughout England and we can see if the same "excuse" or "truth" can be questioned...I guess that would provide clarity either way also.

[Hibbyradge]

Unreasonable expectations? It's almost like English votes for English laws debate. BBC are supposed to give Britain coverage. If they cannot remain neutral then the BBC should either be rebranded English Broadcasting Corporation or there should be separate divisions where each distinct country gets their own coverage. I don't think that is unreasonable at all. The members of the EU don't all watch the same coverage with the same commentators, even those that speak the same language.

Stating I have a problem with England is almost the same as your exertion about percentages, based on nothing. I have a problem with the commentary, not with England.

Scottish commentators argument - Scottish media does not get broadcast throughout Britain, that's the argument. You don't see Sportscene in England.

I will celebrate when England lose, you are correct. No more updates from the England camp when they aren't even playing on that day, no more interviews with players during the half-time between 2 other teams, no more talking about each of their players as if they were world class. Got the hint yet, I have a problem with the media coverage...

By the end of this tournament Pickford will be one of the best goalkeepers in the world...

You have no problems with England yet you'll celebrate when they lose etc etc.

Your point was that the commentary should be neutral because there were immigrants in the UK. The same applies in Scotland.

Your expectations are unreasonable because they're totally unrealistic, but we'll never agree about that.

However, you're going to be miserable and angry listening to the coverage of England games for the rest of your life.

I'll merely be mildly irritated, and I do have a volume control for Mark Lawrenson.

[TRC]

Can England really win it though? Personally don't think they have the players. Squad wise France and Belgium are better Croatia I'd say 50-50. As I said before, it'll be a bit embarrassing for them if they don't make the the final after the route they've had.

[Hibbyradge]

This has either got to be true or the most over used excuse ever in Scotland. I honestly can't decide either way. BTW not aimed at you directly but generally in every different environment from pub, to bowls club, to work, I hear this reason/excuse

I thought it was football rivalry? :confused:

[Mibbes Aye]

What I assume is grown men posting, moaning because an English person displayed a scintilla of emotion about England doing well.

It's no wonder Scottish folk get accused of having a chip on their shoulder.

Honestly, get over yourselves.

[Lago]

:faf: But wait...............IF.........................IF

Absolutely hilarious reading the state of panic and hysteria on here.

Your right & grievance has been raised to whole new level, it's now an art form.

[Golden Bear]

Ah well, I think I'll change over to the National news so that I can catch the country's celebrations once again.

[CropleyWasGod]

I think if the French had to watch German coverage or if the Portuguese had to watch Spanish coverage their reactions would be even worse than the ABE group.

Best to vote for independence the next time round so we get proper Scottish coverage for the real Scots and the quislings can still tune into their Lawrensons and Linekers.




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The thought of Derek Ferguson, Allan Preston and big Derek Johnstone has me seriously considering my views on independence :rolleyes:

[IGRIGI]

The thought of Derek Ferguson, Allan Preston and big Derek Johnstone has me seriously considering my views on independence :rolleyes:

C'mon, Open All Mics on Tour with Preston shouting "CHANCE!!!!!!" from around the globe, we're home and dry with that indy proposition :greengrin

[CropleyWasGod]

C'mon, Open All Mics on Tour with Preston shouting "CHANCE!!!!!!" from around the globe, we're home and dry with that indy proposition :greengrin

:greengrin I think I'd be looking for BBC England in that event, Lawrenson and all.

[Pete]

What I assume is grown men posting, moaning because an English person displayed a scintilla of emotion about England doing well.

It's no wonder Scottish folk get accused of having a chip on their shoulder.

Honestly, get over yourselves.

:agree:

What people think is some sort of sense of pride just looks like small man syndrome.

[Moulin Yarns]

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember separate 'English' commentary teams when Scotland used to be at finals so those in Scotland got the likes of archie macpherson while the rest of the UK got Clive tildsley or his equivalent.

[madhatter]

You have no problems with England yet you'll celebrate when they lose etc etc.

Your point was that the commentary should be neutral because there were immigrants in the UK. The same applies in Scotland.

Your expectations are unreasonable because they're totally unrealistic, but we'll never agree about that.

However, you're going to be miserable and angry listening to the coverage of England games for the rest of your life.

I'll merely be mildly irritated, and I do have a volume control for Mark Lawrenson.

You have no problems with England yet you'll celebrate when they lose etc etc.

I celebrated when Germany went out, does that mean I have problems with Germany as a country...no, confused why wanting them to fail in a competition means I have problems with the country...I want Hearts to fail but have no major issues with Hearts fans, do you let football rule how you act in the rest of your life?

Miserable and angry listening to England games? Hardly, I can just stop watching their games in future and mute the TV. Can even migrate away from the UK and get media coverage from another country. Again, football doesn't dictate my life!

If my expectation of BBC being neutral for the whole of Britain is unreasonable and unrealistic then the UK/Britain should be disbanded, each country including England deserves their own coverage if unbiased coverage cannot be assured. My comparison would be Switzerland get biased French or Belgian coverage...after all they are in a union of countries are they not? England benefit the most by BBC, as I mentioned British and English get used interchangeably throughout the world, Scotland and Wales are just regions.

[One Day Soon]

I haven't been so entertained in quite a long time.

'I don't mind England, it's just the commentators'.

'Just wait until England meet X'.

'It's so unfair, they're really lucky and boring'.

'The BBC are biased'.

'The goalkeeper's no good'.

'I need a rest, these chips are getting really heavy'.

Well maybe not the last one. It's certainly gotten easier as the tournament has progressed to diagnose who just wants them beat for football rivalry and who is really obsessed with England beyond logic or reason.

This thread will probably need paramedics, sedatives and a police escort if they actually make it to the final.

[Northernhibee]

I think if the French had to watch German coverage or if the Portuguese had to watch Spanish coverage their reactions would be even worse than the ABE group.

Best to vote for independence the next time round so we get proper Scottish coverage for the real Scots and the quislings can still tune into their Lawrensons and Linekers.




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Literally one of the most ludicrious excuses I've ever heard for independence. "I don't like the football commentary so Scotland should be independent".

[One Day Soon]

What I assume is grown men posting, moaning because an English person displayed a scintilla of emotion about England doing well.

It's no wonder Scottish folk get accused of having a chip on their shoulder.

Honestly, get over yourselves.

Like

[madhatter]

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember separate 'English' commentary teams when Scotland used to be at finals so those in Scotland got the likes of archie macpherson while the rest of the UK got Clive tildsley or his equivalent.

That is correct, there have been different media teams so the rest of the UK didn't get Scottish coverage.

[The Pointer]

With the anti-Russian hysteria from the UK government I hope to god it's them that puts them out, would be hilarious.

You cannot be serious? Rather than hysteria I would call it a measured response to a critical situation.

I try and keep politics out of sport and it's going to be difficult given the World Cup is taking place in Russia, but I don't understand how anyone from this country could possibly support Russia against England given what that country's leader and politicians are doing to their own people and other countries.

I hope Croatia win tonight to prevent the semi becoming politicised.

[ardecos]

The problem is BBC and STV being cheapskates. If there was a separate Scottish commentary team, no matter how bad, we would not be having this argument.

[weecounty hibby]

Anyway back to the football. After seeing France, Belgium and England play I think they are the poorer of the three but will have a good chance in the final. All it takes is an off day from the opposition, a deflection, a dodgy VAR decision and they win. Really haven't played tough opposition yet and pretty untested tho. I live in hope that Russia or Croatia can beat them as the final would be too tense!!

[hibsbollah]

:greengrin I think I'd be looking for BBC England in that event, Lawrenson and all.

This is surely the situation that the phrase 'two bald men fighting over a comb' was invented for.

I've said it before, watching football in a foreign language commentary is the best solution to Lawroitis. You get the emotional contribution without the clichés and ballcocks and if you have any sort of knowledge of the game you can see everything the experts are telling you anyway.

Im watching it all on Silvio Berlusconis Mediaset channels. A corrupt, unpleasant fascistic mysonigist he may be but his presenters aren't unpleasant to have a gander at.

[Mibbes Aye]

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember separate 'English' commentary teams when Scotland used to be at finals so those in Scotland got the likes of archie macpherson while the rest of the UK got Clive tildsley or his equivalent.

I've got vague memories of Archie and Jock Brown commentating on games, maybe 82 or 86, but I'm also fairly certain we had English commentators for some games. I have a childhood memory of Scottish player names being mispronounced in a Home Counties accent but couldn't swear as to which tournament :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

You cannot be serious? Rather than hysteria I would call it a measured response to a critical situation.

I try keep politics out of sport it's going to be difficult given the World Cup is taking place in Russia, but I don't understand how anyone from this country could possibly support Russia against England given what that country's leader and politicians are doing to their own people and other countries.

I hope Croatia win tonight to prevent the semi becoming politicised.

Youve just failed to do so.

[Northernhibee]

The problem is BBC and STV being cheapskates. If there was a separate Scottish commentary team, no matter how bad, we would not be having this argument.

Why? Scotland aren't in the World Cup.

[Lago]

That is correct, there have been different media teams so the rest of the UK didn't get Scottish coverage.
Yes I remember those days & wished that I could ovide listening to Archie, embarrassing.

[madhatter]

Why? Scotland aren't in the World Cup.

Neither are Italy, are Italians not watching the World Cup?

[Smartie]

Surely the most sensible reason for wanting England to lose is so we can avoid all of this nonsense on here every time they win?

[G B Young]

I haven't been so entertained in quite a long time.

'I don't mind England, it's just the commentators'.

'Just wait until England meet X'.

'It's so unfair, they're really lucky and boring'.

'The BBC are biased'.

'The goalkeeper's no good'.

'I need a rest, these chips are getting really heavy'.

Well maybe not the last one. It's certainly gotten easier as the tournament has progressed to diagnose who just wants them beat for football rivalry and who is really obsessed with England beyond logic or reason.

This thread will probably need paramedics, sedatives and a police escort if they actually make it to the final.

I'm amazed how worked up some folk get. So bl**dy what if England were to win the World Cup? Really, what difference would it make to our daily lives? I haven't seen much of this tournament but they had the game on today at my work so I saw most of it. England were deserved winners so fair play to them and if they go on to win the whole tournament they'll have deserved it. Good luck to them I say.

[Lago]

Neither are Italy, are Italians not watching the World Cup?
Boy do you come across as one angry guy.

[stantonhibby]

Neither are Italy, are Italians not watching the World Cup?

Plot well and truly lost.

[heidtheba]

Well, having been a younger bloke who cheered like mad when Southgate missed 'that' penalty, I'm unashamedly cheering on England all the way. From my limited knowledge of the squad they seem a decent bunch (no John Terry types). I like the way they've been quite understated and I thought Southgate going to the Colombian player who had the penatly saved was a class gesture. I've been watching most of the games at a friend's house, he's English and was even at the 66 World Cup, although he missed out on a ticket for the final. I hope they get to the final and I hope they win. It's been a lot more fun to watch. I'll also be in England during the final...that will be interesting.
Each to their own, but I'm personally past the ABE stage of my life.

[madhatter]

Boy do you come across as one angry guy.

Haha not in any way. Someone made the point of having Scottish coverage to the World Cup, someone replied saying "Why? Scotland aren't playing in the World Cup". I made the point of Italy aren't there either but I assume they will have coverage...

How do you read into someone's feelings through written text on a forum btw? I could be on the wind-up for all you know!

[Lago]

:top marks
Well, having been a younger bloke who cheered like mad when Southgate missed 'that' penalty, I'm unashamedly cheering on England all the way. From my limited knowledge of the squad they seem a decent bunch (no John Terry types). I like the way they've been quite understated and I thought Southgate going to the Colombian player who had the penatly saved was a class gesture. I've been watching most of the games at a friend's house, he's English and was even at the 66 World Cup, although he missed out on a ticket for the final. I hope they get to the final and I hope they win. It's been a lot more fun to watch. I'll also be in England during the final...that will be interesting.
Each to their own, but I'm personally past the ABE stage of my life.

[Northernhibee]

Haha not in any way. Someone made the point of having Scottish coverage to the World Cup, someone replied saying "Why? Scotland aren't playing in the World Cup". I made the point of Italy aren't there either but I assume they will have coverage...

How do you read into someone's feelings through written text on a forum btw? I could be on the wind-up for all you know!

My cat looked at the screen when the game was on. Should we also have Bagpuss as a commentator for any felines watching in?

[J-C]

The number of people getting upset because England doing well, you'd think they're doing it out of spite to annoy us instead of for the fans and country

[greenlex]

If England win the World Cup we will see a huge upturn in English Nationalism. That’s a great thing. They might want independence. That’s fine by me. Mon England let’s bring it home.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[ardecos]

Why? Scotland aren't in the World Cup.

Why would Scotland have to be in the World Cup to have separate commentary?

[One Day Soon]

Well, having been a younger bloke who cheered like mad when Southgate missed 'that' penalty, I'm unashamedly cheering on England all the way. From my limited knowledge of the squad they seem a decent bunch (no John Terry types). I like the way they've been quite understated and I thought Southgate going to the Colombian player who had the penatly saved was a class gesture. I've been watching most of the games at a friend's house, he's English and was even at the 66 World Cup, although he missed out on a ticket for the final. I hope they get to the final and I hope they win. It's been a lot more fun to watch. I'll also be in England during the final...that will be interesting.
Each to their own, but I'm personally past the ABE stage of my life.

:top marksLike you I can recall gloating over Southgate's miss. Changed days.

[madhatter]

My cat looked at the screen when the game was on. Should we also have Bagpuss as a commentator for any felines watching in?

And I get "Plot well and truly lost." to my post about Italy watching the World Cup...

Forums are funny places!

[Lago]

Haha not in any way. Someone made the point of having Scottish coverage to the World Cup, someone replied saying "Why? Scotland aren't playing in the World Cup". I made the point of Italy aren't there either but I assume they will have coverage...

How do you read into someone's feelings through written text on a forum btw? I could be on the wind-up for all you know!
You could be, but the fact is every England game has you ranting & ranting, every England win it get worse not sure what will happen if they win it, quiet possible, & we have the open bus tour through London, welcome event at 10 Downing Street followed by presentation of BBC sport personality of the year. Your worse nightmare.

[Hibbyradge]

Why would Scotland have to be in the World Cup to have separate commentary?

Why do we need it?

I speak English so no need for the extra expenditure.

[Canon Hannan]

If England win the World Cup we will see a huge upturn in English Nationalism. That’s a great thing. They might want independence. That’s fine by me. Mon England let’s bring it home.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Very true and help us in our way to liberty at home 😁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[J-C]

Unreasonable expectations? It's almost like English votes for English laws debate. BBC are supposed to give Britain coverage. If they cannot remain neutral then the BBC should either be rebranded English Broadcasting Corporation or there should be separate divisions where each distinct country gets their own coverage. I don't think that is unreasonable at all. The members of the EU don't all watch the same coverage with the same commentators, even those that speak the same language.

Stating I have a problem with England is almost the same as the exertion about percentages, based on nothing. I have a problem with the commentary, not with England.

Scottish commentators argument - Scottish media does not get broadcast throughout Britain, that's the argument. You don't see Sportscene in England.

I will celebrate when England lose, you are correct. No more updates from the England camp when they aren't even playing on that day, no more interviews with players during the half-time between 2 other teams, no more talking about each of their players as if they were world class. Got the hint yet, I have a problem with the media coverage...

By the end of this tournament Pickford will be one of the best goalkeepers in the world...

Last time I looked England were a part of Britain and as sole representatives of these isles, it's only natural the BBC will give their team full coverage. What do you expect, a wee round up of the other home nations miserable displays trying to get to this cup as a balance. You really like a good argument don't you, bet you argue with the mirror when you're having a shave.

[Mibbes Aye]

It's Coming Home :agree: :greengrin

[JeMeSouviens]

Surely the most sensible reason for wanting England to lose is so we can avoid all of this nonsense on here every time they win?

This all day long. :agree:

[Allant1981]

would rather they didnt win it as the mother in law is english and wouldnt hear the end of it but they actually have a decent chance, apart from kane they have no real world class players but they are playing ok as a team, can only beat whats in front of you

[CropleyWasGod]

Why do we need it?

I speak English so no need for the extra expenditure.

A lot of us speak ***** on here. Where's our separate channel???:rolleyes:

[madhatter]

You could be, but the fact is every England game has you ranting & ranting, every England win it get worse not sure what will happen if they win it, quiet possible, & we have the open bus tour through London, welcome event at 10 Downing Street followed by presentation of BBC sport personality of the year. Your worse nightmare.

Please get your facts right, I have only commented after 2 of England's wins - so ranting after each one is factually untrue. I don't care if they win it, I've only really pointed out the media bias and the potential implications if they do. My worst nightmare is far from England winning the World Cup.

[Haymaker]

It's Coming Home :agree: :greengrin

Did it leave?

[JeMeSouviens]

It's Coming Home :agree: :greengrin

Trophy made in Italy for tournament inaugurated in Uruguay by a Frenchman! Coming home?

[Lago]

Please get your facts right, I have only commented after 2 of England's wins - so ranting after each one is factually untrue. I don't care if they win it, I've only really pointed out the media bias and the potential implications if they do. My worst nightmare is far from England winning the World Cup.
Dare I ask then, what is your worst nightmare ?

[calumhibee1]

So who would everyone have as the Golden Ball winner (player of the tournament NOT top scorer). For me I’d say it’s between Lukaku and Kane. Kane has been the talisman for an impressive England side and Lukaku has scored a good few goals and also had a stormer last night against Brazil.

[Mibbes Aye]

Please get your facts right, I have only commented after 2 of England's wins - so ranting after each one is factually untrue. I don't care if they win it, I've only really pointed out the media bias and the potential implications if they do. My worst nightmare is far from England winning the World Cup.

In fairness, you've done more than that.

There were repeated references to "the English" putting us down and slagging us off, which I don't think you can back up.

[Golden Bear]

Over to the tennis now where another proud Brit in the form of Kyle Edmunds is tied 1 set each with Djokovic.

[madhatter]

Last time I looked England were a part of Britain and as sole representatives of these isles, it's only natural the BBC will give their team full coverage. What do you expect, a wee round up of the other home nations miserable displays trying to get to this cup as a balance. You really like a good argument don't you, bet you argue with the mirror when you're having a shave.

You really think if Scotland were the sole representatives of these isles it would get the same coverage? That is very unrealistic and wouldn't happen. My point is the BBC talks up England and English players the most, Sportscene does the same in Scotland but is only aired in Scotland. That being the difference. Thought this was a forum...hang on, I'll go see if my mirror has any useful insight on things, the wall wasn't saying much.

People need to lighten up a bit, why can't I just make a few comments on media coverage without people losing it and taking everything so serious!

[Hibbyradge]

A lot of us speak ***** on here. Where's our separate channel???:rolleyes:

Hibs.net

[Mibbes Aye]

Trophy made in Italy for tournament inaugurated in Uruguay by a Frenchman! Coming home?

You know I was teasing :greengrin

[madhatter]

In fairness, you've done more than that.

There were repeated references to "the English" putting us down and slagging us off, which I don't think you can back up.

Not watch Robbie Savage, Joey Barton and the likes when on British media outlets talking about Scottish football? I can absolutely back up English media personalities talking badly of Scottish football. Sutton seems to be the outlier on that front, he's English, I quite like him, I also quite like Shearer but he has his moments.

[Lago]

Over to the tennis now where another proud Brit in the form of Kyle Edmunds is tied 1 set each with Djokovic.
Playing well, but that partisan crowd what a disgrace😂

[we are hibs]

In today's society it doesn't surprise me there are Scottish people wanting England to win. A few months back there were hibs fans on here wanting hearts to win.

[hibsbollah]

You really think if Scotland were the sole representatives of these isles it would get the same coverage? That is very unrealistic and wouldn't happen. My point is the BBC talks up England and English players the most, Sportscene does the same in Scotland but is only aired in Scotland. That being the difference. Thought this was a forum...hang on, I'll go see if my mirror has any useful insight on things, the wall wasn't saying much.

People need to lighten up a bit, why can't I just make a few comments on media coverage without people losing it and taking everything so serious!

You're absolutely entitled to your opinion. The not ABE crowd are equally as militant as the ABE crowd, evidenced by the unnecessarily hard time you're getting.

[JeMeSouviens]

You know I was teasing :greengrin

Forsooth!

[One Day Soon]

Over to the tennis now where another proud Brit in the form of Kyle Edmunds is tied 1 set each with Djokovic.

I want that commentary in Doric or I'll do time.

[Hibbyradge]

You really think if Scotland were the sole representatives of these isles it would get the same coverage? That is very unrealistic and wouldn't happen. My point is the BBC talks up England and English players the most, Sportscene does the same in Scotland but is only aired in Scotland. That being the difference. Thought this was a forum...hang on, I'll go see if my mirror has any useful insight on things, the wall wasn't saying much.

People need to lighten up a bit, why can't I just make a few comments on media coverage without people losing it and taking everything so serious!

I'm certain that Scotland would get similar coverage. We enjoyed wall to wall Wales coverage in the Euros and I remember the 1978 hype very well.

Scotland were everywhere.

Anyway, no point going on with the discussion tonight. We've got Russia v Croatia in 10 minutes.

We can resume this "debate" on Wednesday. :greengrin