World Cup thread

[guthrie01]

Chris Waddle

Ex-England winger on BBC Radio 5 live

I hope Colombia get a hefty fine with whatever happens in this game. I feel sorry for the referee who should have been waving red cards instead of yellow ones.

😂😂

Whatever happens the comedy has begun.

Almost as good as the Iceland game, just need another late goal to crush England’s hope of winning the cup

[IGRIGI]

That goal seems to have broken England mentally.

[Mon Dieu4]

Falcao misses a sitter.

Should have don't better but the defender actually did well to put him off

[madhatter]

And it's not a 'I hate England' thing, far from it. You'll just not catch me supporting a country who's sports media and fans alike will go out their way to mock our game since we don't have the TV billions like them.

It's the arrogance that gets me, when they are playing or when they are discussing Scottish game. Every player they have is World Class and EPL is best league and Scottish players are rubbish in a garbage league. Cannot support them, wouldn't anyway, I'm Scottish. They have the right to support England, I don't feel a sense to support England. Just as I wouldn't support Ireland or Wales.

Ireland and Wales don't have same level of arrogance though so I'm not as enthusiastic with my lack of support. I won't deny I screamed "YES!!!" when Columbia scored.

[Peevemor]

Lizarazu on French TV going on about how much England are kacking their pants.

[Hibs1972]

Looks like England wanting pens,only 1 team gonna win in extra time.

[B.H.F.C]

England look done but having Kane in the team gives them a chance.

[hibsbollah]

Should have don't better but the defender actually did well to put him off

He needs to bully him,hes a better player imo.

Trippier faking injury now. Doubt it will reported so even handedly by Wappings finest tomorrow.

[One Day Soon]

If this goes to pens it will be Shakespearean.

[guthrie01]

It's the arrogance that gets me, when they are playing or when they are discussing Scottish game. Every player they have is World Class and EPL is best league and Scottish players are rubbish in a garbage league. Cannot support them, wouldn't anyway, I'm Scottish. They have the right to support England, I don't feel a sense to support England. Just as I wouldn't support Ireland or Wales.

Ireland and Wales don't have same level of arrogance though so I'm not as enthusiastic with my lack of support. I won't deny I screamed "YES!!!" when Columbia scored.

:top marks Exactly where I’m at

[hibsbollah]

Lizarazu on French TV going on about how much England are kacking their pants.

:faf:

[J-C]

Bartley ad Fontaine having some banter on twitter





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[Hibbyradge]

I said to Mrs R before the game that England would win on penalties for the first time.

We'll see.

[Tyler Durden]

Putting Dier on was a waste of a sub for England. Their passing and movement has gone now.

A hoof to Vardy could be their best shout at this stage

[One Day Soon]

I said to Mrs R before the game that England would win on penalties for the first time.

We'll see.

I genuinely hadn't even considered that as a possibility until you posted it.

[yonder1875]

It's the arrogance that gets me, when they are playing or when they are discussing Scottish game. Every player they have is World Class and EPL is best league and Scottish players are rubbish in a garbage league. Cannot support them, wouldn't anyway, I'm Scottish. They have the right to support England, I don't feel a sense to support England. Just as I wouldn't support Ireland or Wales.

Ireland and Wales don't have same level of arrogance though so I'm not as enthusiastic with my lack of support. I won't deny I screamed "YES!!!" when Columbia scored.

My thoughts exactly.

However I do recall wishing Wales to beat England at Euro '16!

[Mr Grieves]

Worst thing about the goal is we haven't seen a replay off the effort that led to the corner.

https://twitter.com/dunne109/status/1014237807290789889?s=19

Some hit and a great save

[madhatter]

Didn't realise Cambiasso was assistant at Columbia...

[hibsbollah]

Vardy seems to have bubble gum in, blew a wee bubble:faf: never seenthat before.

[Pretty Boy]

Pickford has played really well tonight so I wonder who the scapegoat will be? He looked the likely candidate but barring a disaster he looks safe.

[Craig_HFC]

Pickford has played really well tonight so I wonder who the scapegoat will be? He looked the likely candidate but barring a disaster he looks safe.

The ref for not getting his red card out, most likely.

[J-C]

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Vardy trying to score

[Mon Dieu4]

Pickford has played really well tonight so I wonder who the scapegoat will be? He looked the likely candidate but barring a disaster he looks safe.

I think if you rush him then his kicking will be dodgy, been thinking that from the outset of this game

[Pretty Boy]

Walker is an idiot trying to hobble on. If you have cramp go down and take the treatment for a minute or so. No one is going to give you a medal for foolish bravery.

[hibsbollah]

Pickford has played really well tonight so I wonder who the scapegoat will be? He looked the likely candidate but barring a disaster he looks safe.

:agree: He's been good. It will be Sterling of course.

[givescotlandfreedom]

Colombia look like they've been on the sauce in the two minute break.

[IGRIGI]

England controlling this half.

Just as I type they go inches from winning..

[DH1875]

I said to Mrs R before the game that England would win on penalties for the first time.

We'll see.

Colombia won't score all 5 (if it gets that far).

[Peevemor]

Hahahttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180703/da5351d07fb06b31d53f95bf70c996ab.jpg

[cabbageandribs1875]

ingland will win on penalties for the first time in 200 years

[Pretty Boy]

That wasn’t far away. England suddenly looking a bit more likely again.

[IGRIGI]

For some reason also I think England would win this if it goes to pens.

[hfc rd]

England look threatening again

[One Day Soon]

For some reason also I think England would win this if it goes to pens.

They look like they might steal it before then.

[madhatter]

My thoughts exactly.

However I do recall wishing Wales to beat England at Euro '16!

That's just the default for me, lesser of two evils I suppose. If I knew of other nations being arrogant and talking about Scottish football as if it were garbage, I wouldn't support them either. I don't understand the notion of supporting the home nations or whatever it is, would England put out saltires if Scotland were in a competition...me thinks not...England is not UK or Britain, I think that line gets blurred far too often. Support your own country or support who you fancy in that competition, simple.

I supported Wales that time as well merely because they were an underdog, which is usually who I pick when I'm "neutral".

[hibsbollah]

Superb by Vardy there. Take and cross.

[IGRIGI]

Haha what a miss from 6 yards

[Pretty Boy]

Now that was a sitter. Free header, 8 yards out and misses by miles.

[I'm_cabbaged]

Free header there, unlucky pal

[cabbageandribs1875]

Dier is Dire

[One Day Soon]

That's just the default for me, lesser of two evils I suppose. If I knew of other nations being arrogant and talking about Scottish football as if it were garbage, I wouldn't support them either. I don't understand the notion of supporting the home nations or whatever it is, would England put out saltires if Scotland were in a competition...me thinks not...England is not UK or Britain, I think that line gets blurred far too often. Support your own country or support who you fancy in that competition, simple.

I supported Wales that time as well merely because they were an underdog, which is usually who I pick when I'm "neutral".

So, just support whoever you like then? :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

Vardy spewing.

[I'm_cabbaged]

England looking the most dangerous by far now.

[givescotlandfreedom]

Colombia look knackered

[Pretty Boy]

Hideous refereeing.

[cabbageandribs1875]

that's a corner for the luv o **** ffs

[One Day Soon]

Hideous refereeing.


:agree: All game long.

[NOLA]

England to win a penalty shootout with Southgate in charge [emoji854][emoji854][emoji854]

[One Day Soon]

That's just barking from Cuadrado.

[blackpoolhibs]

How was that a foul against Rose?

[BullsCloseHibs]

Come on Columbia, get this done. England are crap

[BullsCloseHibs]

Last minute winner from the Yellows!!

[madhatter]

So, just support whoever you like then? :greengrin

Yes, when your own nation is not playing. I don't like the idea of being obliged to support Ireland, Wales or England because we aren't there. The whole talk from David Mundell (I think it was), who said we should fly the England flag is just garbage...no nation should support another in a competition.

[hibsbollah]

Bacca is a waste of a Jersey. How he played for Milan I have no idea.

[One Day Soon]

I'm not sure I can watch penalties - and I'm not even that bothered who wins. This will brutal in homes all over England.

[Pretty Boy]

Spinchters will be going now.

[cabbageandribs1875]

they have to win a penalty shoot-out sometime...shirly

[hfc rd]

Bacca is a waste of a Jersey. How he played for Milan I have no idea.


Milan are nothing special these days anyway

[Pretty Boy]

Bacca is a waste of a Jersey. How he played for Milan I have no idea.

Like Halliday at Rangers. Reduced circumstances.

[cabbageandribs1875]

instead of jiggying about like a f@d cross the ball u fool

[hfc rd]

Pens it is then

[I'm_cabbaged]

Sounded rather deflated there

[IGRIGI]

I shouldn't have had a coffee as I'm about to have a heart attack with the caffeine rush.

[Onion]

Awful game. Both teams rubbish. England to win on penalties - law of averages, absolute certainty.

[Pretty Boy]

I’d fancy Pickford to save 1 or 2, he’s springy.

[Thecat23]

No matter what happens here first game England have been tested and even at that Colombia have been poor they fail to win in normal time. France or Brazil would beat England or Colombia with ease.

[007]

England to win a penalty shootout with Southgate in charge [emoji854][emoji854][emoji854]

Yes, he will have been showing them in training how to do it.

[madhatter]

Bacca is a waste of a Jersey. How he played for Milan I have no idea.

He was pretty prolific when he was at Milan and when he was at Sevilla. In fairness to him, the Columbian's haven't approached this game as they normally do, James is a huge loss. Very negative, service to Bacca and Falcao has been largely shocking.

I miss Mexico, they were refreshing.

[One Day Soon]

I'm happy to wish them well, got lots of English mates. Can't say I'm actively supporting them thoough. Just don't care enough for that.

Would like to see Colombia beat Tyldesley though.

[blackpoolhibs]

**** a bath of beans, i will snort a kilo of the finest columbian marching powder in a shower outside the famous five if Columbia do the business here.

[Hibbyradge]

ingland will win on penalties for the first time in 200 years

I think so, too.

[hibsbollah]

**** a bath of beans, i will snort a kilo of the finest columbian marching powder in a shower outside the famous five if Columbia do the business here.

:faf:

[Pretty Boy]

**** a bath of beans, i will snort a kilo of the finest columbian marching powder in a shower outside the famous five if Columbia do the business here.

Are forfeits not meant to be a punishment of sorts?:greengrin

[One Day Soon]

**** a bath of beans, i will snort a kilo of the finest columbian marching powder in a shower outside the famous five if Columbia do the business here.

Noted and pinned.

[Onion]

TV studio folk talking drivel and clearly lacking themselves. How funny is this going to be ?

[One Day Soon]

Do we have to go to Clive? Do we?

[Jim44]

England will win 5-4 on penalties.

[cabbageandribs1875]

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/The-Shining.jpeg

[Pretty Boy]

Falcao cool as you like.

[IGRIGI]

2 cracking penalties so far.

[One Day Soon]

This is The Exorcist meets Groundhog Day for the English.

[Pretty Boy]

Kane with another great penalty.

[One Day Soon]

Kane with another great penalty.

Those short run ups though...

[Pretty Boy]

Another brilliant penalty.

[J-C]

Rashford, cool as...boom

[Pretty Boy]

Rashford looked like he was cacking it but what a penalty.

[IGRIGI]

I'm having a horrible feeling England are doing what Hearts did against Gretna and putting every penalty in the exact same spot

[Lago]

Good penalties

[Pretty Boy]

Not been close to a bad penalty yet.

[One Day Soon]

Uh oh...

[cabbageandribs1875]

henderson misses....cheats never prosper

[J-C]

Get the plane started

[SteveHFC]

Saved :faf:

[IGRIGI]

What a save!!!!

[Pretty Boy]

Henderson didn’t deliver. Good save, poor penalty, easy height for the keeper. Exactly where he would want it.

[One Day Soon]

Knew it as soon as he was faking the jaunty keepie uppy.

[One Day Soon]

Get the plane started

LOL, but also WTF?

[IGRIGI]

Criminal not to hit the target.

[Pretty Boy]

Almost a great penalty but that’s not how it woks.

[Lago]

Good penalties
And then 2 misses

[cabbageandribs1875]

see mr columbian, that's what happens when yi try to be smart by just taking two steps at it...f*d

[J-C]

let off

[IGRIGI]

Balls of steel required now.

[Pretty Boy]

That’s more like it, England should just keep going that way. Ospina hasn’t got close to one.

[One Day Soon]

Almost a great penalty but that’s not how it woks.

He chopped the sticks?

[IGRIGI]

****.

[J-C]

Bacca misses, great save

[Pretty Boy]

Good save. Poor penalty but strong hand.

[Mon Dieu4]

Off his line before its taken again, now my pet hate

[Lago]

And then 2 misses
What a save!!!

[One Day Soon]

see mr columbian, that's what happens when yi try to be smart by just taking two steps at it...f*d

Been saying this all tournament. Why do they do it FFS?

[Thecat23]

Booooooo

[Jim44]

England will win 5-4 on penalties.

Well close. :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

ah well, i win quite a few £££'s now, but i feel deflated.........very chuffed that ingland won't be winning any ******* cup :agree:

[Lago]

Get in.

[Pretty Boy]

Ospina makes a hash of that. Every one to his right he never looked like saving.

[J-C]

Suppose they deserve that, better team on the night

[wpj]

Conrad Logan would have saved the lot of them, end of!

[Mr Grieves]

Boooo! :greengrin

[One Day Soon]

Colombians deserved to lose on balance. For the histrionics and the Uruguayan-ness. Good.

[whiskas]

Phew! Well done England

[Scouse Hibee]

Yaaaaaaaaas better team won GIRUY

[IGRIGI]

A lot more confident however about Sweden's chances now.

[NOLA]

Knew Henderson would miss typical Sunderland *****bag


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[Northernhibee]

GIIIIIRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

:hyper :hyper :hyper

[SaulGoodman]

Silly Colombian ****

[Thecat23]

Well done to England lifting the World Cup.

[Mon Dieu4]

Stand by the fact there is no point in having an official on the line or having a word with the goalie about staying on his line when they do heehaw about it

[blackpoolhibs]

Bollox, hope tonight has taken a lot out of them, happy that the next game is so soon.

[SirDavidsNapper]

Oh no

[ancient hibee]

Ospina tried the Ronnie Simpson tactic of leaving more space to his right but without his success.

[hibsbollah]

Pleased for Pickford, seems like a good guy. Good save.

[guthrie01]

2 pretty poor teams, England better hope they can score goals beside penalties or they will have no chance of winning it

[One Day Soon]

A lot more confident however about Sweden's chances now.

Don't think so. Doing it on penalties will have gotten a monkey off the back and getting through probably gives them a big bounce. Grim as it was tonight I think they will put Sweden to the sword comfortably. Apart from anything else the Swedes won't play dirty so it will be a more open game.

[AltheHibby]

I'm going against the grain here, but I am delighted with that result.

[madhatter]

They don't half go over the top winning penalties against a poor team do they...jeez almost out and then talk of them being contenders again. Be thankful to get through and then see where it takes you...its like an arrogance switch goes off in their heads.

Go from "oh no...we are almost out" to "football's coming home!" in milliseconds.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

The usual english luck.

Heaven help them when they come up against a half decent team.

[One Day Soon]

The usual english luck.

Heaven help them when they come up against a half decent team.

You're not ****ing serious? With their record on World Cup penalties?

[BullsCloseHibs]

The better team are out. No doubt about that. Columbia far better team in ET.
Jammy basasas

[CockneyRebel]

henderson misses....cheats never prosper

I know which side did the most cheating tonight.

[IGRIGI]

Don't think so. Doing it on penalties will have gotten a monkey off the back and getting through probably gives them a big bounce. Grim as it was tonight I think they will put Sweden to the sword comfortably. Apart from anything else the Swedes won't play dirty so it will be a more open game.

At least give me Croatia in the Semi :greengrin

[Hi Heid Yin]

Well done England! - our sole British representative in this world cup.

[cleanyman]

It's coming home.

[BullsCloseHibs]

They don't half go over the top winning penalties against a poor team do they...jeez almost out and then talk of them being contenders again. Be thankful to get through and then see where it takes you...its like an arrogance switch goes off in their heads.

Go from "oh no...we are almost out" to "football's coming home!" in milliseconds.

That's the reason they are a hated nation

[Hibbyradge]

The usual english luck.

Heaven help them when they come up against a half decent team.

Usual England luck in a penalty shootout? :faf:

[SteveHFC]

Good luck to Sweden in the next round.

[hibsbollah]

Stand by the fact there is no point in having an official on the line or having a word with the goalie about staying on his line when they do heehaw about it

Sylar already has a solution, a new penalty line one yard behind the goalline where the goalie has to start from. I'm writing in to the new sepp blatter dude so it's in place for the final :agree:

[wookie70]

Gary Neville "It's great to see the opposition team suffering" He is a real charmer and such a good sport

[One Day Soon]

My overwhelming thought and reaction to that is God I wish it was us.

[alihibs1]

England getting to a quarter final by only beating Panama and Tunisia in 90 mins. They are playing Sweden too. [emoji52]

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[NOLA]

Now England have won on pens their name is on the cup 🤪

[CockneyRebel]

GIIIIIRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

:hyper :hyper :hyper


I second that emulsion.

[Tyler Durden]

Glad to see England through there, Colombia's antics were a disgrace but it nearly paid off for them.

I think England can give anyone a game but they must realise they can't keep carrying Alli and Sterling who have largely been passengers every time they play.

[One Day Soon]

That's the reason they are a hated nation

Are they?

[poolman]

The usual english luck.

Heaven help them when they come up against a half decent team.


:confused::confused::confused:

[Lago]

I'm going against the grain here, but I am delighted with that result.

Not going against my grain, best team won.

[Scouse Hibee]

And so the Jock support shifts to Sweden😂⚽️😂😂😂

[Mon Dieu4]

And so the Jock support shifts to Sweden😂⚽️😂😂😂

Hope zlatan is on the plane over now :na na:

[One Day Soon]

At least give me Croatia in the Semi :greengrin

If the Croatian midfield turns up for that game it should be a cracker. I think England will go to the final though.:cb

[CockneyRebel]

They don't half go over the top winning penalties against a poor team do they...jeez almost out and then talk of them being contenders again. Be thankful to get through and then see where it takes you...its like an arrogance switch goes off in their heads.

Go from "oh no...we are almost out" to "football's coming home!" in milliseconds.


You never get that in Scotland eh?

[guthrie01]

And so the Jock support shifts to Sweden��⚽️������

låt oss gå sverige

[AltheHibby]

And so the Jock support shifts to Sweden😂⚽️😂😂😂

3/4 Jock, 1/4 Ingerlish. 100% delighted.

Even my Mrs was squealing with joy.

[madhatter]

Well done England! - our sole British representative in this world cup.

By that reasoning every team in the EU should do the same, Spain should be supporting France etc.

Italy and Netherlands should definitely have had a EU competitors flag flying throughout their countries...

[One Day Soon]

That was a joy to watch Ian Wright's reaction to the final penalty.

[Jim44]

Bollox, hope tonight has taken a lot out of them, happy that the next game is so soon.

The further they get in the competition, the sweeter the defeat becomes.:greengrin

[Hillsidehibby]

If the Croatian midfield turns up for that game it should be a cracker. I think England will go to the final though.:cb
Hope so. I’ve got them each way at 18’s ⚽️🤞

[One Day Soon]

3/4 Jock, 1/4 Ingerlish. 100% delighted.

Even my Mrs was squealing with joy.

And did she enjoy the game too?

[madhatter]

You never get that in Scotland eh?

When has Scotland ever entered a competition saying "This will be a breeze and if we beat x, y and z we will be title contenders"? In my lifetime, never.

[bawheid]

Proud Scot here but quite happy England won. Colombia were niggly cheating bawbags. Best team won. Good luck to them.

[hfc rd]

And so the Jock support shifts to Sweden😂⚽️😂😂😂


I’m supporting Sweden as I have them in the work sweepstake

[Onion]

Lucky lucky England. Rotten display against an truly awful Colombia side.

Now we have DAYS of English media proclaiming themselves and the nation as "masters of the universe", how the "whole of Britain" will now get behind England and how they're going to overcome Croatia in the Semi.

[SirDavidsNapper]

Not going to lie im keeking myself

[Bostonhibby]

And so the Jock support shifts to Sweden😂⚽️😂😂😂

A bang average England side will have too much fire power for the Swedes who were half decent in defence but have nothing to offer up front. I'll be betting on England in the handicap betting, Just business like.:wink:

[CockneyRebel]

Glad to see England through there, Colombia's antics were a disgrace but it nearly paid off for them.

I think England can give anyone a game but they must realise they can't keep carrying Alli and Sterling who have largely been passengers every time they play.


Good call, they both tend to flatter to deceive. They all have to learn to keep their cool as well although the ref was weak tonight.

[One Day Soon]

When has Scotland ever entered a competition saying "This will be a breeze and if we beat x, y and z we will be title contenders"? In my lifetime, never.

*Cough* 1978 *cough*

[Bristolhibby]

3/4 Jock, 1/4 Ingerlish. 100% delighted.

Even my Mrs was squealing with joy.

Jock? Are you for real?

[One Day Soon]

Good call, they both tend to flatter to deceive. They all have to learn to keep their cool as well although the ref was weak tonight.

I don't understand why they don't start Rashford.

[CockneyRebel]

When has Scotland ever entered a competition saying "This will be a breeze and if we beat x, y and z we will be title contenders"? In my lifetime, never.


Just for starters watch an Ally's Army video and read the papers from that time.

[CockneyRebel]

I don't understand why they don't start Rashford.

And Loftus Cheek.

[Jim44]

Lucky lucky England. Rotten display against an truly awful Colombia side.

Now we have DAYS of English media proclaiming themselves and the nation as "masters of the universe", how the "whole of Britain" will now get behind England and how they're going to overcome Croatia in the Semi.

Don’t care if England win it but I honestly don’t think now that they have the remotest chance.

[One Day Soon]

And Loftus Cheek.

Actually yes, him even more so. You're dead right.

[madhatter]

*Cough* 1978 *cough*

Before my time. Every competition I've witnessed England or English PL teams in, all I hear is they are best team and they have best league, they are central force to football, they have a divine right to go far. Just saying, that's what I've witnessed since birth hence why I want them to fail. I hate notion of supporting Britain's teams as well, why does that make sense? So we can hear about it for 40+ years, "could this be the year?" bs...tedious and boring. Any financial bonus from winning it - be it greater exposure for some of their players only benefits them and their leagues, why on earth would I support that? Madness. Obviously if you are English it makes sense...

[Onion]

England getting to a quarter final by only beating Panama and Tunisia in 90 mins. They are playing Sweden too. [emoji52]

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And 2 goals in open play :rolleyes:

[Lago]

*Cough* 1978 *cough*

On the march with Ally's army we're going to win the world cup, heady days :greengrin

[JeMeSouviens]

Can’t see them beating any of the top half teams or Croatia. A semi is still a great result for them though if they get past Sweden.

[Hibrandenburg]

Would have been a travesty if England had lost that. Surprised myself by rooting for England after the antics from Colombia.

[One Day Soon]

Before my time. Every competition I've witnessed England or English PL teams in, all I hear is they are best team and they have best league, they are central force to football, they have a divine right to go far. Just saying, that's what I've witnessed since birth hence why I want them to fail. I hate notion of supporting Britain's teams as well, why does that make sense? So we can hear about it for 40+ years, "could this be the year?" bs...tedious and boring. Any financial bonus from winning it - be it greater exposure for some of their players only benefits them and their leagues, why on earth would I support that? Madness. Obviously if you are English it makes sense...

Far, far worse than anything the English have managed. It was horrific hubris.

I'm happy to wish them well. Watching those scenes tonight makes me think of 21 May and the happiness it would bring them to win it again. Why not? Doesn't bother me really.

[madhatter]

Just for starters watch an Ally's Army video and read the papers from that time.

You've reinforced my point, you have to go back to 1978 for something similar to occur in Scotland, I can go back 5 minutes and England are champions of the world to some. Again if you are English or have some sort of British identity then fine, I have a Scottish one and I'd rather support a dilapidated Scotland than ever support England, Ireland or Wales.

[Onion]

Can’t see them beating any of the top half teams or Croatia. A semi is still a great result for them though.

Craziest world cup EVER. Could see ANY of the leftovers winning the thing.

[Gatecrasher]

Would have been a travesty if England had lost that. Surprised myself by rooting for England after the antics from Colombia.

:agree: don't mind wanting England to win when their opposition behaves like that.

[JeMeSouviens]

Far, far worse than anything the English have managed. It was horrific hubris.

I'm happy to wish them well. Watching those scenes tonight makes me think of 21 May and the happiness it would bring them to win it again. Why not? Doesn't bother me really.

Do you celebrate cup wins with Jambos? Serious q.

[JimBHibees]

Yaaaaaaaaas better team won GIRUY

Better team meh. Had no shots at all. Truly awful game. Pretty shameful how many England players dived.

[One Day Soon]

Craziest world cup EVER. Could see ANY of the leftovers winning the thing.


:agree: Completely mental. Almost unprecedented. I wish we'd been in it somehow, convinced we might have gotten out of a group at last.

[JeMeSouviens]

Craziest world cup EVER. Could see ANY of the leftovers winning the thing.

Oh aye, can’t rule anything out altogether.

[AltheHibby]

And did she enjoy the game too?

😂 😂 😂

[JimBHibees]

Far, far worse than anything the English have managed. It was horrific hubris.

I'm happy to wish them well. Watching those scenes tonight makes me think of 21 May and the happiness it would bring them to win it again. Why not? Doesn't bother me really.

Laughable comparison.

[Bristolhibby]

Do you celebrate cup wins with Jambos? Serious q.

My question when I am constitantly asked “why don’t you support England”. Also add in the condescending “I’d support Scotland”.

Just **** off!

J

[One Day Soon]

Do you celebrate cup wins with Jambos? Serious q.

Nope. Hearts are our competition and that's a zero sum game. If they win we lose.

England winning it would make no difference to us.

[hibsbollah]

You never get that in Scotland eh?

No, nothing like it.

[Scouse Hibee]

Better team meh. Had no shots at all. Truly awful game. Pretty shameful how many England players dived.

😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️🥅

[AltheHibby]

Jock? Are you for real?

Yeah. What's wrong with what I said?

[Northernhibee]

Usual England luck in a penalty shootout? :faf:

Never let facts get in the way of a good seethe :greengrin

[One Day Soon]

Laughable comparison.

Why?

[JeMeSouviens]

Nope. Hearts are our competition and that's a zero sum game. If they win we lose.

England winning it would make no difference to us.

Not unless they play us in the final and winning it means similar to them.

[Bristolhibby]

Nope. Hearts are our competition and that's a zero sum game. If they win we lose.

England winning it would make no difference to us.

Doesn’t really equate to International football in that respect.

Were you cheering The Huns on for their Europa League Final?

J

[stoneyburn hibs]

Hope the Swedish gut them.

[JimBHibees]

Why?

Because we won a cup.

[Bristolhibby]

Yeah. What's wrong with what I said?

Jock is not a great word.

[JimBHibees]

😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️🥅

Cheats :greengrin

[madhatter]

Far, far worse than anything the English have managed. It was horrific hubris.

I'm happy to wish them well. Watching those scenes tonight makes me think of 21 May and the happiness it would bring them to win it again. Why not? Doesn't bother me really.

Kane will be worth £200m after this World Cup, McGinn will still be worth £1.5m-2m. English media are wonderful at hyping up their game. If they had a World Cup in the bag, every single player would get £10-50m added to their value and everything else that goes with that (wages and sponsorship). That bothers me, English football (top end) is destroying football, everyone is following suit to stay up with the trend. A World Cup in the locker could worsen that scenario...

If they play like that against France or Brazil, they will lose though so no worries.

[One Day Soon]

Not unless they play us in the final and winning it means similar to them.

You mean England against us in the final of the World Cup?

[YehButNoBut]

So now we are going to have either England, Sweden, Russia or Croatia in the WC Final, who would have thunk it :greengrin

[JeMeSouviens]

You mean England against us in the final of the World Cup?

No. As in 06 and 98, once we were out the cup, it’s no longer a zero sum game.

[One Day Soon]

Doesn’t really equate to International football in that respect.

Were you cheering The Huns on for their Europa League Final?

J

Nope, they are in the same league as us and are our competition. Anything that strengthens them weakens us. England winning doesn't.

[JeMeSouviens]

Nope, they are in the same league as us and are our competition. Anything that strengthens them weakens us. England winning doesn't.

When the Old Huns were in the uefa final, we were hardly rivals to them!

[guthrie01]

Nope, they are in the same league as us and are our competition. Anything that strengthens them weakens us. England winning doesn't.

We where qualifing in the same group though, where you cheering England on then ?

[JimBHibees]

Nope, they are in the same league as us and are our competition. Anything that strengthens them weakens us. England winning doesn't.

Were you cheering when Kane equalised in the last minute at Hampden?

[hibsbollah]

So now we are going to have either England, Sweden, Russia or Croatia in the WC Final, who would have thunk it :greengrin

Seeds 1,2,3,4 in one half of the draw, seeds 5,6,7,8 in the other. Unprecedented?

It's the Swedes time.

[Greentinted]

Fair play to England. That shoot-out came down to focus and bottle and they prevailed.
In all fairness and trying to remain measured, neither side on show appear to have enough quality to win the thing but cup football does give any underdog a chance so I’ll no be going overboard with the ‘crappest team left in the competition’ chat. It would be a seismic shock if they did win it though and Sweden will test them next time out.
Thought the ref went to bits early on with cynicism, gamesmanship and downright obvious foul play dominating the narrative of the match.
I’m aware of the ‘if you don’t like what they’re saying turn the sound off’ argument but Tyldesley really is a slavering cheerleader who needs emptied. Hoddle’s just a twat.
I’m no longer an ABE adherent but I can never support them, however I am impressed with the manner in which Southgate goes about his business. (I’m no half mellowing as I age...)
Overall, piss poor fare but the right result in the end. But only just!

[One Day Soon]

No. As in 06 and 98, once we were out the cup, it’s no longer a zero sum game.

Not following you. Really don't see how England winning the World Cup affects us. If Hearts win the Cup - or anything really - they get resource and strength from that which is at our expense. Don't see how that applies to the world cup and us and England.

I'm pleased for them - especially after the years of penalties pain. I'm more concerned with us needing to improve big time than with them doing better or worse.

[Bristolhibby]

Nope, they are in the same league as us and are our competition. Anything that strengthens them weakens us. England winning doesn't.

Nope don’t get that. But craic on anyway.

J

[One Day Soon]

When the Old Huns were in the uefa final, we were hardly rivals to them!

They were literally in the same league as us, they among others, were among our rivals and competition.

[AltheHibby]

Jock is not a great word.

Got to disagree there. My sister's ex served in a Highland regiment and I remember him and his mates being proud to serve in "a Jock regiment".

It's just a word, like soldiers calling officers "Ruperts".

Oh, and an old neighbour of mine in Hampshire used to call me "haggis" because it's Scottish.

[One Day Soon]

We where qualifing in the same group though, where you cheering England on then ?

Nope because then they were our competition. In this World Cup they are not -we're not in it. I'm happy to see them do well.

[madhatter]

Nope, they are in the same league as us and are our competition. Anything that strengthens them weakens us. England winning doesn't.

How does England (the financial centre of football at the minute), not affect Scottish football (the direct neighbour that they normally disrespect?). Sutton is the only guy that sticks up for the game here forcefully...if he weren't around it would be Savage, Bellamy, Barton and the like...

Winning the World Cup will affect Scottish football, the financial difference between countries will be increased further. May encourage more foreign investors in their game. Scottish clubs will be looking solely at non-league English players shortly (we'll be priced out of the rest, barring maybe Celtic)...

We talked about MacLaren's price going up due to him being at the World Cup, imagine the price of all the players for the nation that win it...

Imagine it in a country that is already grossly inflated...

I always support the underdog when Scotland isn't in the competition, to think any of the big nations winning these competitions every year doesn't affect every smaller country is naive. How good are the sports facilities in Scotland vs England? Some of our pro clubs still don't have training grounds...

Football is rigged for large nations to keep winning major competitions, bores the hell out of me. Come on Sweden, come on Croatia, come on Uruguay, come on Belgium!

[One Day Soon]

Were you cheering when Kane equalised in the last minute at Hampden?

LOL. How is that relevant to these finals which we aren't in?

[we are hibs]

🇸🇪🇸🇪

[Scouse Hibee]

Got to disagree there. My sister's ex served in a Highland regiment and I remember him and his mates being proud to serve in "a Jock regiment".

It's just a word, like soldiers calling officers "Ruperts".

Oh, and an old neighbour of mine in Hampshire used to call me "haggis" because it's Scottish.

Exactly, surely no one is offended by Jock👍

[Hibrandenburg]

Not unless they play us in the final and winning it means similar to them.

I'm knocking on a bit but I'll still give them a game.

[Bristolhibby]

Got to disagree there. My sister's ex served in a Highland regiment and I remember him and his mates being proud to serve in "a Jock regiment".

It's just a word, like soldiers calling officers "Ruperts".

Oh, and an old neighbour of mine in Hampshire used to call me "haggis" because it's Scottish.

Was going to say except for in the British regiments where it is used to refer to the men. It’s not a normal “civvy” word.

Still feel it’s a hierarchal term used by the officer class.

Just never heard a Scot call another Scot, Jock. Been called it by plenty of English. Never in a nice or non ignorant way.

J

[NOLA]

Got to disagree there. My sister's ex served in a Highland regiment and I remember him and his mates being proud to serve in "a Jock regiment".

It's just a word, like soldiers calling officers "Ruperts".

Oh, and an old neighbour of mine in Hampshire used to call me "haggis" because it's Scottish.

I worked in London at 19 and didn’t understand why I was called a sweaty sock for weeks until I tippled [emoji851]

[CropleyWasGod]

Got to disagree there. My sister's ex served in a Highland regiment and I remember him and his mates being proud to serve in "a Jock regiment".

It's just a word, like soldiers calling officers "Ruperts".

Oh, and an old neighbour of mine in Hampshire used to call me "haggis" because it's Scottish.There's a fair number of people who have experienced it as a term of abuse, too. I know I have.

Offence is a very personal thing, of course, and usually revolves around context. Yours is positive. For many, it's not.

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[Hibrandenburg]

Exactly, surely no one is offended by Jock👍

It's one of two names given to me by my lazy English colleagues when I served. More people know me by this name than my real one. I'm just glad Captain Caveman didn't stick :greengrin

[madhatter]

Exactly, surely no one is offended by Jock👍

Apart from it really being a racial/ethnic slur these days...

[CockneyRebel]

Before my time. Every competition I've witnessed England or English PL teams in, all I hear is they are best team and they have best league, they are central force to football, they have a divine right to go far. Just saying, that's what I've witnessed since birth hence why I want them to fail. I hate notion of supporting Britain's teams as well, why does that make sense? So we can hear about it for 40+ years, "could this be the year?" bs...tedious and boring. Any financial bonus from winning it - be it greater exposure for some of their players only benefits them and their leagues, why on earth would I support that? Madness. Obviously if you are English it makes sense...



So because you didn't see it, it didn't happen? You've never heard about it?

[One Day Soon]

How does England (the financial centre of football at the minute), not affect Scottish football (the direct neighbour that they normally disrespect?). Sutton is the only guy that sticks up for the game here forcefully...if he weren't around it would be Savage, Bellamy, Barton and the like...

Winning the World Cup will affect Scottish football, the financial difference between countries will be increased further. May encourage more foreign investors in their game. Scottish clubs will be looking solely at non-league English players shortly (we'll be priced out of the rest, barring maybe Celtic)...

We talked about MacLaren's price going up due to him being at the World Cup, imagine the price of all the players for the nation that win it...

Imagine it in a country that is already grossly inflated...

I always support the underdog when Scotland isn't in the competition, to think any of the big nations winning these competitions every year doesn't affect every smaller country is naive. How good are the sports facilities in Scotland vs England? Some of our pro clubs still don't have training grounds...

Football is rigged for large nations to keep winning major competitions, bores the hell out of me. Come on Sweden, come on Croatia, come on Uruguay, come on Belgium!


I think your quarrel may be with the volume of TV cash going into the English game. And the major foreign investors buying Premiership clubs like toys or baubles. It's the marketplace.

If you're not happy now I don't think you're going to be any happier as the tournament progresses. I'll be surprised if they don't make the final.

[Scouse Hibee]

Apart from it really being a racial/ethnic slur these days...

Behave yourself.

[AltheHibby]

Was going to say except for in the British regiments where it is used to refer to the men. It’s not a normal “civvy” word.

Still feel it’s a hierarchal term used by the officer class.

Just never heard a Scot call another Scot, Jock. Been called it by plenty of English. Never in a nice or non ignorant way.

J

I've never heard it used abusively. And the only time I heard an officer say it was when referring to a good soldier as a "typical Jock" because of a good job he did.

Obviously we have had different experiences.

[One Day Soon]

Was going to say except for in the British regiments where it is used to refer to the men. It’s not a normal “civvy” word.

Still feel it’s a hierarchal term used by the officer class.

Just never heard a Scot call another Scot, Jock. Been called it by plenty of English. Never in a nice or non ignorant way.

J

We fish against an English team every summer. Every year they greet us as Jocks and we refer to them as Johnny Englander. It's always affectionate and friendly. Of course we are beating them 7-1 over the years so it's easy to be nice when you're winning...:greengrin

[Scouse Hibee]

It's one of two names given to me by my lazy English colleagues when I served. More people know me by this name than my real one. I'm just glad Captain Caveman didn't stick :greengrin

My Dad says the same about being called Scouse in his regiment

[One Day Soon]

Apart from it really being a racial/ethnic slur these days...

Is it?

[Michael]

Apart from it really being a racial/ethnic slur these days...

lol

[Tobias Funke]

Apart from it really being a racial/ethnic slur these days...

Wow. Racial/ethnic slur? Not even close.

[Col_0762]

Exactly, surely no one is offended by Jock👍

Maybe some will as it’s a term most often used by English people in a demeaning context. If someone has a basic grasp of social skills, they wouldn’t refer to someone as a “Jock” etc. They would use that person’s name, or in this case, use ‘Scots’. Otherwise, they more than likely would be met with an equally unpleasent reply.

[AltheHibby]

Wish I hadn't said it now! 😂

[Mr Grieves]

Exactly, surely no one is offended by Jock👍

Everytime I've been called Jock, It's been by middle aged/senior English white males that also use derogatory names for other nationalities and those of a different race. Just my experience likes.

[Scouse Hibee]

Maybe some will as it’s a term most often used by English people in a demeaning context. If someone has a basic grasp of social skills, they wouldn’t refer to someone as a “Jock” etc. They would use that person’s name, or in this case, use ‘Scots’. Otherwise, they more than likely would be met with an equally unpleasent reply.

Ah well seeing as I never use it in a demeaning context I’m fine then. Phew had me worried for a second

[Col_0762]

Ah well seeing as I never use it in a demeaning context I’m fine then. Phew had me worried for a second

Try saying it to someone next time you’re out. “Eeee alright Jock lad?!”, see what response you get.

[Scouse Hibee]

Everytime I've been called Jock, It's been by middle aged/senior English white males that also use derogatory names for other nationalities and those of a different race. Just my experience likes.

Let me think......apart from Tafffy at work and Paddy down the pub I think I’m fine. No offence intended

[One Day Soon]

Southgate conducts himself very well. What a contrast between him and the loon commentators.

In other news, all four of those next round fixtures look pretty mouthwatering.