World Cup thread

[hibsbollah]

I’d maybe include Croatia in that group? I know Argentina are poor but they look pretty useful

Mexico too. Time they got to the quarters at least.

[Hibbyradge]

Spot on ,how cringeworthy were they, hardly any commentary on the actual play at all.

Cringeworthy? Not in the slightest. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

It will be a huge story if Germany gets knocked out at this stage. Of course they'll discuss it.

I'm sure commentators around the world will have been saying similar.

[Hibbyradge]

By the way, the Cup's got Germany's name on it.

[Thecat23]

Cringeworthy? Not in the slightest. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

It will be a huge story if Germany gets knocked out at this stage. If course they'll discuss it.

I'm sure commentators around the world will have been saying similar.

Nah sorry, you can discuss it and you can then become obsessed, it was way into obsessed for me and was embarrassing. Did we really need to be told every 2 mins how things stand? No wonder they get stick it’s well deserved.

[Liam978]

Cringeworthy? Not in the slightest. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

It will be a huge story if Germany gets knocked out at this stage. Of course they'll discuss it.

I'm sure commentators around the world will have been saying similar.

Well i'm glad they had to eat their words.

[Pretty Boy]

I wonder if the German commentary would have been hugely different had The Netherlands or England been facing an early exit. Are the Brazilians extending sympathy to their Argentinian neighbours? I assume the South Korean media will be wishing Japan all the best and Croatia will be saying good luck to their Serbian chums?

It's just football rivalry as we have been reminded about countless times on this thread.

[Thecat23]

I wonder if the German commentary would have been hugely different had The Netherlands or England been facing an early exit. Are the Brazilians extending sympathy to their Argentinian neighbours? I assume the South Korean media will be wishing Japan all the best and Croatia will be saying good luck to their Serbian chums?

It's just football rivalry as we have been reminded about countless times on this thread.

I’d bet everyone you mentioned wouldn’t be as bad as the English were tonight.

[The Baldmans Comb]

I have no problem whatsoever with English TV and the English commentators as there sub text is perfectly clear.

Germany are an obstacle to their team winning the World cup and for England to progress deep into the competition it would be nice and handy if the presentation World Champions weren't around.

I throughly enjoyed their continual wee digs as they made no pretence of any neutrality and must have said the same thing 3/4 times.

Scottish people watching English TV and then whingeing the commentators are biased is surreal.

Of course they *** are. Every country's commentators are like this.

[Hibbyradge]

Nah sorry, you can discuss it and you can then become obsessed, it was way into obsessed for me and was embarrassing. Did we really need to be told every 2 mins how things stand? No wonder they get stick it’s well deserved.

You're obsessed, TC. :hilarious

They said nothing wrong and it certainly wasn't every 2 minutes.

I don't know why people don't just turn the commentary off if the English guys are so difficult to listen to.

I said to my wife that by this time next week, Germany, Brazil and Argentina could be out of the tournament.

Their team is in the tournament. I'd be excited if it was my team.

[Broken Gnome]

I have no problem whatsoever with English TV and the English commentators as there sub text is perfectly clear.

Germany are an obstacle to their team winning the World cup and for England to progress deep into the competition it would be nice and handy if the presentation World Champions weren't around.

I throughly enjoyed their continual wee digs as they made no pretence of any neutrality and must have said the same thing 3/4 times.

Scottish people watching English TV and then whingeing the commentators are biased is surreal.

Of course they *** are. Every country's commentators are like this.

Well the last two paragraphs are the crux of it - we're in the near unique situation of having commentary bent towards a footballing nation that isn't ours.

There's no reason why we should like it, nor should there be any daft notion that BBC/ITV become random beacons of impartiality who'll throw together an immaculate and exhaustive 50 minute preview of Mexico-South Korea. And I can't believe anyone really thinks they should tone down the jingoism on behalf of the other three parts of the UK.

[Hibbyradge]

Well the last two paragraphs are the crux of it - we're in the near unique situation of having commentary bent towards a footballing nation that isn't ours.

There's no reason why we should like it, nor should there be any daft notion that BBC/ITV become random beacons of impartiality who'll throw together an immaculate and exhaustive 50 minute preview of Mexico-South Korea. And I can't believe anyone really thinks they should tone down the jingoism on behalf of the other three parts of the UK.

I agree.

If it had been ABE fans doing the commentary, we'd have heard all about Brazil, Argentina and Germany being in trouble, albeit from a different, worried, angle.

Imagine what this place would be like if it looked like Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen looked like getting knocked out of the Scottish Cup.

And no, they're not supposed to be impartial. They're England fans. 95% of their audience is too.

[The Spaceman]

The Germans have a frighteningly talented team with many more gears left in them - think they will turn up big style in the knock-out stages. Their coolness today under pressure showed why they are favourites. They are also scary to watch when they have their tails up - make it look so simple and easy.

[Hibrandenburg]

What a great night. My next door neighbour who is also the mayor invite the whole village round to his pad to watch the game. Thriller of a game where the atmosphere went from one of "Weltuntergang" to one of jubilation. Rollercoaster ride with free beer, open grill, tears of distress, 45% moonshine and relief. Amazing scenes that were probably repeated throughout the whole country. Germany are just warming up, bring on the Koreans.

[ekhibee]

My wife and I were on holiday in Rhodes last week and saw some of the games over there. I watched the Germany v Mexico game over there and cheered when Mexico scored and when they won the game. No commentary that we could understand, it was in a foreign language (not Greek). Over here I watched the build up and the whole Sweden v Germany game. I've got nothing against Sweden at all, they're an honest hardworking team that have a fair amount of ability. But I couldn't help cheering when Germany's winner went in. The 'Germany could go out of the world cup/have to win' thing had been rammed down our throats for virtually 3 hours. So IMO, commentaries can make you change opinion.

[Onion]

The Germans have a frighteningly talented team with many more gears left in them - think they will turn up big style in the knock-out stages. Their coolness today under pressure showed why they are favourites. They are also scary to watch when they have their tails up - make it look so simple and easy.

WC history shows those quick out of the blocks rarely go on to win, it's those that improve over the tournament that invariably come out on top. Happens time and again. Brazil, Germany, Spain all struggling at this stage should be a big red flag for the others, but English media getting worked up over England chances - based one last gasp win against Tunisia.

[hibsbollah]

WC history shows those quick out of the blocks rarely go on to win, it's those that improve over the tournament that invariably come out on top. Happens time and again. Brazil, Germany, Spain all struggling at this stage should be a big red flag for the others, but English media getting worked up over England chances - based one last gasp win against Tunisia.

:agree: Its definitely a marathon not a sprint. The team that wins it will have to be at their best in five games time, not now.

[Spike Mandela]

I have no problem whatsoever with English TV and the English commentators as there sub text is perfectly clear.

Germany are an obstacle to their team winning the World cup and for England to progress deep into the competition it would be nice and handy if the presentation World Champions weren't around.

I throughly enjoyed their continual wee digs as they made no pretence of any neutrality and must have said the same thing 3/4 times.

Scottish people watching English TV and then whingeing the commentators are biased is surreal.

Of course they *** are. Every country's commentators are like this.

This is the crux of the matter though.

For as long as I can remember International tournament coverage in Scotland has been English tv coverage under the guise of the BBC and ITV. Even the years when England weren’t in the tourney we just had English tv coverage.

Eventually they threw us the scrap of having Scottish coverage for games involving Scotland but as soon as they were over it was back to coverage of Iran v Mexico with a pre match and half time report from the England camp with maybe a montage of English goals at the end.

All year round Scottish footbsll is covered by our own pundits radio and tv. Yes they can be annoying, biased and sometimes just crap but it is always from a Scottish perspective and often find angles to games tha English tv commentators just wouldn’t even know about.. Why can’t this continue during tournaments? We could have our pundits watch And analyse games. At half time they might occasionally mention England but Not every ****ing game.

Of course the truth is the likes of the BBC would never pay for that as Scotland is insignificant to them, given more regional status really. It would be funny one tournament really to see situations reversed . Coukd you imagine a world cup where English viewers were subjected to Michael Stewart, Stephen Thomson and Chick Young et al for the Entire tournament. There would be riots in the streets. We on the other hand just sit and meekly accept another nations football coverage.

[IGRIGI]

We on the other hand just sit and meekly accept another nations football coverage.

The root of the problem.

[Onion]

Terry Butcher on Breakfast TV boasting about how he "enjoyed hurting people" and his manic hubris over England's chances is another endearing reason to support England today. So glad to see that the coverage is low key this am and they refrained from interviewing a stereotypical fat, bald, middle-aged England fan drinking beer at 8.30am. That would have been too much.

[hibsbollah]

This is the crux of the matter though.

For as long as I can remember International tournament coverage in Scotland has been English tv coverage under the guise of the BBC and ITV. Even the years when England weren’t in the tourney we just had English tv coverage.

Eventually they threw us the scrap of having Scottish coverage for games involving Scotland but as soon as they were over it was back to coverage of Iran v Mexico with a pre match and half time report from the England camp with maybe a montage of English goals at the end.

All year round Scottish footbsll is covered by our own pundits radio and tv. Yes they can be annoying, biased and sometimes just crap but it is always from a Scottish perspective and often find angles to games tha English tv commentators just wouldn’t even know about.. Why can’t this continue during tournaments? We could have our pundits watch And analyse games. At half time they might occasionally mention England but Not every ****ing game.

Of course the truth is the likes of the BBC would never pay for that as Scotland is insignificant to them, given more regional status really. It would be funny one tournament really to see situations reversed . Coukd you imagine a world cup where English viewers were subjected to Michael Stewart, Stephen Thomson and Chick Young et al for the Entire tournament. There would be riots in the streets. We on the other hand just sit and meekly accept another nations football coverage.

I agree with most of your post but I would hate to put up with the Scottish pundits we currently have, talking about the world cup. Billy Dodds and Chick Young doing Panama Belgium or whatever? Gabriel Jesus wept.

[Betty Boop]

Pat Nevin is commentating on some games on Five live. He sounds like an old woman so boring, he seems to over analyse everything.

[IGRIGI]

A question I would like answered - Where was Thomas Mueller's paper round? Central African Republic?

I almost keeled over when I read he's 28.

[IGRIGI]

I agree with most of your post but I would hate to put up with the Scottish pundits we currently have, talking about the world cup. Billy Dodds and Chick Young doing Panama Belgium or whatever? Gabriel Jesus wept.

If we could find more like Michael Stewart and lose the BBC jobs for the boys lot I think we'd be fine.

[The Baldmans Comb]

This is the crux of the matter though.

For as long as I can remember International tournament coverage in Scotland has been English tv coverage under the guise of the BBC and ITV. Even the years when England weren’t in the tourney we just had English tv coverage.

Eventually they threw us the scrap of having Scottish coverage for games involving Scotland but as soon as they were over it was back to coverage of Iran v Mexico with a pre match and half time report from the England camp with maybe a montage of English goals at the end.

All year round Scottish footbsll is covered by our own pundits radio and tv. Yes they can be annoying, biased and sometimes just crap but it is always from a Scottish perspective and often find angles to games tha English tv commentators just wouldn’t even know about.. Why can’t this continue during tournaments? We could have our pundits watch And analyse games. At half time they might occasionally mention England but Not every ****ing game.

Of course the truth is the likes of the BBC would never pay for that as Scotland is insignificant to them, given more regional status really. It would be funny one tournament really to see situations reversed . Coukd you imagine a world cup where English viewers were subjected to Michael Stewart, Stephen Thomson and Chick Young et al for the Entire tournament. There would be riots in the streets. We on the other hand just sit and meekly accept another nations football coverage.

HaHa I love your analogy of 4 weeks of Thompson, Chico and Mikey Stewart doing the World Cup fronted by say Hazel Irvine.

Very likely England will win today and the reasonably relaxed coverage so far will be ramped up to biased and jingoistic and absolutely rightly so as England is a fantastic football country with a real depth of feeling for the game.

English TV just merely reflects that the holy grail of English sport and society is to win the World Cup for the first time since nineteen.....whenever it was.

I quite enjoy the coverage as England is a country I admire despite the problems their country faces but the meek whiney Scots who think English TV owes them something gies me the "dry boak".

[hibsbollah]

Pat Nevin is commentating on some games on Five live. He sounds like an old woman so boring, he seems to over analyse everything.

I can't stand him as an analyst, but I started a thread on this à while back and 90% of folk on here disagreed with me so I'm staying out of Pat bashing now :greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

You're obsessed, TC. :hilarious

They said nothing wrong and it certainly wasn't every 2 minutes.

I don't know why people don't just turn the commentary off if the English guys are so difficult to listen to.

I said to my wife that by this time next week, Germany, Brazil and Argentina could be out of the tournament.

Their team is in the tournament. I'd be excited if it was my team.


They ARE my teams, along with all the rest bar one. :wink:

[Hibbyradge]

Does no-one but me have a volume control on their TV?

If you can't put up with English commentators fantasising about their own team's chances, don't listen.

Your blood pressure will thank you.

I suspect that a lot of people listen to the commentary concentrating hard, wantin be outraged at something so they can complain about it.

I read someone yesterday criticising the commentators because they were "surprised that they hadn't said" something. :hilarious

Just turn the volume down if it irritates you so much.

[Hibbyradge]

They ARE my teams, along with all the rest bar one. :wink:

England are your team?

You've changed.

[murray26]

Why can’t we have a Scottish World Cup commentary team and panel..? Genuine question..? Does it always have to be lineker shearer and co..? I’m pretty sure the English would be pissed off if they had to listen to another countries bias/ excitement and so on constantly..

[Hibbyradge]

Why can’t we have a Scottish World Cup commentary team and panel..? Genuine question..? Does it always have to be lineker shearer and co..? I’m pretty sure the English would be pissed off if they had to listen to another countries bias/ excitement and so on constantly..

95%, of the TV audience, if not more, are happy with the English commentary.

It would be ludicrous to spend money on a separate team of pundits because some Scottish folk have a chip on their shoulder.

[blackpoolhibs]

England are your team?

You've changed.

:greengrin

[Thecat23]

95%, of the TV audience, if not more, are happy with the English commentary.

It would be ludicrous to spend money on a separate team of pundits because some Scottish folk have a chip on their shoulder.

Btw I can’t stand half the Scottish ones either HR. Some are just as bad as the English ones. I just want a fair non biased commentary team! I’ve no chip on my shoulder when it comes to them, I just can’t stand being told every 5 mins about England or how great it would be to see Germany go out.

[hibsbollah]

Why can’t we have a Scottish World Cup commentary team and panel..?

Because they'd be the same Troon mafia, carvery eating, old firm sucking up bassas that we all complain about week in week out. I tend to prefer the English :greengrin

[One Day Soon]

You know what the real root problem - not that I'm sure there really is a problem - of all this is? Start qualifying for World Cups and then we'll have our own commentary team.

I mean, they'll be pretty 5hite but there you go. Richard Gordon presents the World Cup for four weeks, what could possibly go wrong? :rolleyes:

[Hibbyradge]

You know what the real root problem - not that I'm sure there really is a problem - of all this is? Start qualifying for World Cups and then we'll have our own commentary team.

I mean, they'll be pretty 5hite but there you go. Richard Gordon presents the World Cup for four weeks, what could possibly go wrong? :rolleyes:

Jeezo, what a thought.

That's it. I'm ABS.

[One Day Soon]

Jeezo, what a thought.

That's it. I'm ABS.


Oh I don't know, I'm sure being subjected to convoluted connections between Aberdeen and the likes of Saudi Arabia v Egypt and Panama v Tunisia night after night would be an utter joy.

[JeMeSouviens]

From the rest of the world’s perspective, it’s ridiculous that Scotland even has a football team taking up a FIFA membership and valuable slot in Euro qualifying.

[IGRIGI]

95%, of the TV audience, if not more, are happy with the English commentary.

It would be ludicrous to spend money on a separate team of pundits because some Scottish folk have a chip on their shoulder.

Another reason for independence.

[JeMeSouviens]

You know what the real root problem - not that I'm sure there really is a problem - of all this is? Start qualifying for World Cups and then we'll have our own commentary team.

I mean, they'll be pretty 5hite but there you go. Richard Gordon presents the World Cup for four weeks, what could possibly go wrong? :rolleyes:

We never have before? Just our own games.

[Scott Allan Key]

95%, of the TV audience, if not more, are happy with the English commentary.

It would be ludicrous to spend money on a separate team of pundits because some Scottish folk have a chip on their shoulder.

There’s another team across the city that tugs its collective forelock to their ‘betters’. And England does not hold 95%! of the population.

People would like their WC commentators to reflect a worldly outlook, something that’d be difficult for the limited range of commentary from English AND Scottish pundits.


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[One Day Soon]

From the rest of the world’s perspective, it’s ridiculous that Scotland even has a football team taking up a FIFA membership and valuable slot in Euro qualifying.

Just as well we're so utterly 5hit at actually taking up a berth in WC or Euro finals then.

[One Day Soon]

Another reason for independence.

You are Mr Dornan and I claim my £10.

[JeMeSouviens]

Just as well we're so utterly 5hit at actually taking up a berth in WC or Euro finals then.

We’re nothing if not accommodating in that regard.

[Hibbyradge]

There’s another team across the city that tugs its collective forelock to their ‘betters’. And England does not hold 95%! of the population.

People would like their WC commentators to reflect a worldly outlook, something that’d be difficult for the limited range of commentary from English AND Scottish pundits.


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I know how many people are in England but I still think 95% of the TV audience want them to win their games.

Have you ever heard South American commentators when their team scores? Do you reckon that they have a "wordly view"?

None do. Well, maybe the Belgians and just ask ODS about them. :wink:

[One Day Soon]

We never have before? Just our own games.

That was 20 years ago. I'd be surprised if it wasn't a different - and pretty gruesome - commentary story now.

[JeMeSouviens]

That was 20 years ago. I'd be surprised if it wasn't a different - and pretty gruesome - commentary story now.

Are you focus grouping this for better together 2? Winner.

[One Day Soon]

We’re nothing if not accommodating in that regard.

I know, they're a bunch of ingrates.

[One Day Soon]

I know how many people are in England but I still think 95% of the TV audience want them to win their games.

Have you ever heard South American commentators when their team scores? Do you reckon that they have a "wordly view"?

None do. Well, maybe the Belgians and just ask ODS about them. :wink:


Got my hands full abusing the South Koreans at the moment. A vampire's not dead until you've thoroughly staked it and all that...

[One Day Soon]

Are you focus grouping this for better together 2? Winner.


Don't be ridiculous, I'm entirely funded on contract to MI5. They reckon that Scotland qualifying for Qatar, followed by another epic failure narrated by biscuits, Gordon and Chic for colour could finish the Indie movement forever. They might not be wrong. Got to go iron my Union Jack underpants now.

[JeMeSouviens]

Don't be ridiculous, I'm entirely funded on contract to MI5. They reckon that Scotland qualifying for Qatar, followed by another epic failure narrated by biscuits, Gordon and Chic for colour could finish the Indie movement forever. They might not be wrong. Got to go iron my Union Jack underpants now.

Far too plausible to raise a smile. Shudder.

[Mibbes Aye]

I’m at Old Trafford watching the cricket. England are winning comfortably. I fear the mobile network will surge massively in half an hour or so. When in Rome do as Romans do.

C’mon England!!!!!!

[Northernhibee]

Another reason for independence.

Because you don’t like the football commentary?

This is full blown UKIP style lack of reasoning al if that counts as a reason.

[we are hibs]

Come on Panama A.B.E🇵🇦

[Onion]

95%, of the TV audience, if not more, are happy with the English commentary.

It would be ludicrous to spend money on a separate team of pundits because some Scottish folk have a chip on their shoulder.

Beedin' heck :rolleyes:

[Wilson]

For some reason I don't mind Southgate or his players. I wouldn't like England to win the thing - England fans would be insufferable. Neither am I hoping they lose every game though.

[Mibbes Aye]

For some reason I don't mind Southgate or his players. I wouldn't like England to win the thing - England fans would be insufferable. Neither am I hoping they lose every game though.

Southgate is likeable. He obviously went through a lot with the penalty miss. Seems like a decent bloke.

[660]

Come on you panamaniacs! 🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦

Get right in about this shower of ****s.

[Billy Whizz]

Come on you panamaniacs! 🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦

Get right in about this shower of ****s.

Population is smaller than Scotland

[Hibbyradge]

Beedin' heck :rolleyes:

What's your definition of chip on the shoulder?

[660]

Population is smaller than Scotland

Ok...

[Billy Whizz]

Ok...

Ok... what

[CropleyWasGod]

What's your definition of chip on the shoulder?Seagull that doesn't have decent claw control?

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[hibee_girl]

I’ve met many Panamanians over the last few years so feel totally justified in supporting them today 🇵🇦🇵🇦 :greengrin

[Hibrandenburg]

1-0 win for Panama in the national anthem cup.

[hibsbollah]

The English anthem. A celebration of the inequality of man, although I note they've taken out the line about crushing rebellious Panamanians.

[jockodile]

The English anthem. A celebration of the inequality of man, although I note they've taken out the line about crushing rebellious Panamanians.

isn't Darien in Panama , there's a Scottish connection.

mon the old 'new country'

[One Day Soon]

Great start.

[Pretty Boy]

Panamanians were so focussed on fouling they forgot to actually defend. Great header.

[Lago]

Great header, good early goal.

[Hibrandenburg]

Population is smaller than Scotland

England have a bad record against small countries on the 24th of June.

[hibsbollah]

isn't Darien in Panama , there's a Scottish connection.

mon the old 'new country'

1-0 for the old imperials.

[One Day Soon]

Far too plausible to raise a smile. Shudder.

The money's just too good to refuse.

[Lago]

isn't Darien in Panama , there's a Scottish connection.

mon the old 'new country'
Yes Scotland tried to create a colony there & in doing so bankrupted Scoland, there followed the Union of 1707.

[Mon Dieu4]

Here we go again, like Hibs beating East Fife and Stirling then everyone claiming we are a shoe in for the Champions League

Their defence is honking and a decent midfield will play right through them

[660]

There’s a lot of politics in this thread.

[Wilson]

There’s a lot of politics in this thread.

That's harsh everyone is entitled to an opinion.

[One Day Soon]

Is McGinn Panamanian or English?

[Hibrandenburg]

Is McGinn Panamanian or English?

:greengrin

[One Day Soon]

There’s a lot of politics in this thread.

There really isn't. It might look like there is, but there isn't.

[Mon Dieu4]

Is McGinn Panamanian or English?

Neither, they just want the rest if the world to know they are clued up on who is the man

[SJNB Hibby]

I tell you what, Panama have had 3 cracking chances in the first 15 minutes...they may not score, but Belgium sure will

[One Day Soon]

I tell you what, Panama have had 3 cracking chances in the first 15 minutes...they may not score, but Belgium sure will


Belgium will score against anybody.

I want Lukaku, Germany or England to win it. In that order.

[hibee_girl]

England penalty

[One Day Soon]

Surely that was offside?

[Hibbyradge]

Lots of wishful thinking on this thread.

I'm on a train to Edinburgh so I'm using this thread to keep up to date with what's going on. I think I prefer the English commentators.

[Pretty Boy]

I tell you what, Panama have had 3 cracking chances in the first 15 minutes...they may not score, but Belgium sure will

To flip that Belgium looked dodgy at the back v Tunisia. Tunisia mustered 1 shot on target v England and had 9 (I think) v Belgium. England will get chances as well.

I wouldn't bet against it being something like 3-3 or 4-2 or something.

[whiskas]

Panama’s game plan seems to be “kick Lingard”. Doesn’t seem to be working for them

[Curried]

never a penalty

[Pretty Boy]

Fantastic penalty. Kane right in the running for the golden boot here.

[whiskas]

That’s how you take a pen

[Billy Whizz]

never a penalty

Offside. Any reason VAR didn’t review that?

[hfc rd]

I’m sure I just heard the commentator say England 2 Tunisia 0

Is he watching the right game?

[Aldo]

never a penalty

Every day a pen. Bundled over the player in the box


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[Billy Whizz]

I’m sure I just heard the commentator say England 2 Tunisia 0

Is he watching the right game?

I’ve got the sound down😄

[Lago]

Thats the way to take a penalty!

Question England's striker coach is a Scot Alan Russell, played for Killie among others, for the life of me I am struggling to remember him. Anyone got better memory than me ?

[we are hibs]

Come on Belgium ABE 🇧🇪🇧🇪

[Thecat23]

Superb pen from Kane. You can only beat what’s in front of you and England will win easily. They won’t beat Belgium though and they certainly won’t be anywhere close to winning the World Cup.

[Jim44]

Surely that was offside?

One of the two English players was clearly a yard offside but the commentating muppet said “Nah, no offside”. I was going to say earlier that I really didn’t mind if England went on to do well but listening to these fawning fools gets my hackles up and I will be delighted to see them taken apart by decent teams.

[Just Jimmy]

Offside. Any reason VAR didn’t review that?it did review it and it wasn't offside. it was also clearly a penalty.

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[Pretty Boy]

Every day a pen. Bundled over the player in the box


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An absolute stonewaller. Football fans see what they want to see though, if that was given for Hibs at Tynecastle we are all screaming for it and convinced it is, against us at Ibrox and it's a conspiracy and never a penalty.

[One Day Soon]

never a penalty

The penalty was a stick on, but I still think it may have been offside before that.

[Lago]

Offside. Any reason VAR didn’t review that?
They did.

[Curried]

Every day a pen. Bundled over the player in the box


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Defender took the ball first....Woeful call.

[Mon Dieu4]

Lots of wishful thinking on this thread.

I'm on a train to Edinburgh so I'm using this thread to keep up to date with what's going on. I think I prefer the English commentators.

they are doing what they should be doing against these teams, world rankings or not their opening games are us V a championship or 2nd division team IMO

[hibee_girl]

Offside. Any reason VAR didn’t review that?

They did but it wasn’t Lingard that was offside

[Tobias Funke]

100 percent a pen. No doubt.

[Borderhibbie76]

they are doing what they should be doing against these teams, world rankings or not their opening games are us V a championship or 2nd division team IMOAbsolutely....Dumbarton would give this Panama lot a game - they are mince

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[Hibbyradge]

One of the two English players was clearly a yard offside but the commentating muppet said “Nah, no offside”.

The ref and VAR agreed with him.

[Borderhibbie76]

Superb pen from Kane. You can only beat what’s in front of you and England will win easily. They won’t beat Belgium though and they certainly won’t be anywhere close to winning the World Cup.Slight concern is Lukaku and Hazard both doubts for Belgium so they may rest both which worries me TC

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[One Day Soon]

Slight concern is Lukaku and Hazard both doubts for Belgium so they may rest both which worries me TC

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That would be a pity. I'd like to see Lukaku play in every game, for every country.

[Borderhibbie76]

That would be a pity. I'd like to see Lukaku play in every game, for every country.I especially want to see him and Hazard rip Team England a new one [emoji6]

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[Thecat23]

Slight concern is Lukaku and Hazard both doubts for Belgium so they may rest both which worries me TC

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Really hope they don’t, Lukaku will be after the golden boot as well so hopefully he plays.

[Borderhibbie76]

Really hope they don’t, Lukaku will be after the golden boot as well so hopefully he plays.Hope so as Belgium in form could really put Team Engerlund and the BBC back in their box for a bit...

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[Thecat23]

What a goal that is 👏🏼👏🏼

[One Day Soon]

That's gorgeous football in anybody's book.

[Jim44]

it did review it and it wasn't offside. it was also clearly a penalty.

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Yes it was. As I said the two English players were yards from each other and one of them was clearly offside. The one who was definitely offside may not have been the one to go on and get the penalty but the were so close together that the linesman had to raise his flag.

[Pretty Boy]

What a goal.

England tearing apart a team Belgium toiled against for 60 minutes.....

[whiskas]

Great goal that England v Belgium looks like it should be tasty...

[660]

Time to turn this off

[Hibbyradge]

Hope so as Belgium in form could really put Team Engerlund and the BBC back in their box for a bit...

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The reverse also applies.

[Hibrandenburg]

Cracker. In with a shout for goal of the tournament.

[Lago]

What a goal:agree:

[CropleyWasGod]

Yes it was. As I said the two English players were yards from each other and one of them was clearly offside. The one who was definitely offside may not have been the one to go on and get the penalty but the were so close together that the linesman had to raise his flag.It wasn't. The one who was offside wasn't active. Lingard wasn't offside and he won the penalty.

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[Mon Dieu4]

What a goal.

England tearing apart a team Belgium toiled against for 60 minutes.....

You know fine well they are tired after running about after Belgium

[hfc rd]

Take a bow Jesse Lingard! What a goal

[crash]

Slight concern is Lukaku and Hazard both doubts for Belgium so they may rest both which worries me TC

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The game against Belgium is academic,since the winners or losers probably wont know who their next opponents could be.

[One Day Soon]

time to turn this off


:lol:

[One Day Soon]

It wasn't. The one who was offside wasn't active. Lingard wasn't offside and he won the penalty.

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I think some ABE specs are coming into play here.

[Thecat23]

This could end up 7 or 8. Panama are an absolute gang!

[660]

:lol:

What’s amusing you?

[One Day Soon]

Great free kick pre-plan too now. This team are going to have a chance.

[Pretty Boy]

4-0.

Stones is going after Kane, Ronaldo, Cheryshev and Lukaku in the race for the golden boot.

[The Spaceman]

4-0. Wish Scotland were at this tournament.

[Billy Whizz]

This could end up 7 or 8. Panama are an absolute gang!

I’d just present them with the World Cup today, no ones going to beat them

[One Day Soon]

What’s amusing you?

That you would consider turning the game off.

[whiskas]

Well worked goal but keeper made a bit of s meal of the first header

[One Day Soon]

Well worked goal but keeper made a bit of s meal of the first header

I thought he was weak for the first one too.

[Lago]

Nice training ground routine for the 4th goal.

[hfc rd]

This could end up being double figures

[Aldo]

An absolute stonewaller. Football fans see what they want to see though, if that was given for Hibs at Tynecastle we are all screaming for it and convinced it is, against us at Ibrox and it's a conspiracy and never a penalty.

Indeed.

4 zip now following a well worked set piece!


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[Pretty Boy]

Southgate will be delighted that he can rest a few key men in the 2nd half now. Henderson, Kane and A N Other to come off before the hour mark I reckon.

[hibee_girl]

Another England penalty

[One Day Soon]

4-0. Wish Scotland were at this tournament.

The way it's gone even we might get out of a group.

[The Spaceman]

Penalty.

[Curried]

here we go again.....

[Pretty Boy]

Another penalty. Good to see the ref deal with that. Defending like that is doing my head in this year. They should be giving more to stop it.

[alihibs1]

Panama are dreadful

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[One Day Soon]

Another penalty. Good to see the ref deal with that. Defending like that is doing my head in this year.


:agree:

[Aldo]

Defender took the ball first....Woeful call.

Watch it again. The boy behind him bundles him over. Also if it wasn’t a penalty VAR would have said otherwise and overturned the decision of ref!

Case closed




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[Hibrandenburg]

This is going to be a rout.

[Onion]

Could be the biggest hammering in WC for years. Englander media and apologists are going to be incoragable after this. All sorts of corporates will be busy figuring out how to latch on to the campaign now that they appear to be doing ok.

[whiskas]

Terrible defending that! Let Pickford take it he’ll appreciate a kick of the ball

[Smartie]

What a goal.

England tearing apart a team Belgium toiled against for 60 minutes.....

Although Belgium tore apart a team that England struggled against for 90.

Fear not folks - this is part of every England World Cup failure script. We can now chalk off "promising performance that leads a whole nation to believe they're going to win the thing" in the bingo.

Still to come - vilification of an individual, disappointing defeat (possibly on penalties) and an injury or refereeing decision that without which they'd have surely gone all the way.

[Pretty Boy]

This is going to be a rout.

I've stuck a bet on 8.

[Hiber-nation]

Scandalous defending. This is depressing but I'm glad I took engerlund at 16/1 to win the thing.

[Thecat23]

Scandalous defending. This is depressing but I'm glad I took engerlund at 16/1 to win the thing.

I’d have gave you 100/1

[Pretty Boy]

Although Belgium tore apart a team that England struggled against for 90.

Fear not folks - this is part of every England World Cup failure script. We can now chalk off "promising performance that leads a whole nation to believe they're going to win the thing" in the bingo.

Still to come - vilification of an individual, disappointing defeat (possibly on penalties) and an injury or refereeing decision that without which they'd have surely gone all the way.

That was kind of my light hearted point. England and Belgium were always likely to turn over one of the weaker teams and it was always likely to be in the 2nd game when a bit fatigue had kicked in for a team that had chased the ball for 90 minutes.

[Lago]

Thats the way to take a penalty!!

[Slavers]

Excellent football England!

[Aldo]

Another penalty. Good to see the ref deal with that. Defending like that is doing my head in this year. They should be giving more to stop it.

The boy pretty much assaulted Kane.

That’s a red card for the elbow on Macguire!




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[Pretty Boy]

Thats the way to take a penalty!!

Any truth Kane has been taking tips from big Flo?

[Colr]

Panama are thugs. Thet deserve this!

England look good

[Hiber-nation]

I’d have gave you 100/1

9/1 now. They'll struggle defensively when they have to play a half decent team but they are a class apart going forward compared to the predictable englerlund teams of the past.

[Borderhibbie76]

That was kind of my light hearted point. England and Belgium were always likely to turn over one of the weaker teams and it was always likely to be in the 2nd game when a bit fatigue had kicked in for a team that had chased the ball for 90 minutes.Yup good point actually

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[SouthMoroccoStu]

Currently watching in a pub in England

This is agony

What a delusional bunch - you’d think they’re beating Brazil or Germany the way they’re going on

[calumhibee1]

England look very good and they’re also in a decent side of the draw. Am I right in saying that Brazil will play Germany if Brazil win their group and Germany finish second?

[Lago]

The boy pretty much assaulted Kane.

That’s a red card for the elbow on Macguire!




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Correct on both points.

[hfc rd]

Panama are worser than Saudi Arabia.

I’d fancy a Terry Butcher Hibs team to beat this lot

[Pretty Boy]

I don't think England will win it but they are good to watch going forward. Their manager seems a decent guy and they come across as a group of young lads happy and proud to be there. As a team I like them.

If they keep developing then they will have a real shot at the next Euros imo.

[Thecat23]

9/1 now. They'll struggle defensively when they have to play a half decent team but they are a class apart going forward compared to the predictable englerlund teams of the past.

That’s still actually a good price. But as I said before they won’t win this. Kane is great to watch though.

[Lago]

Currently watching in a pub in England

This is agony

What a delusional bunch - you’d think they’re beating Brazil or Germany the way they’re going on
They may well do just that.

[Mon Dieu4]

Everyone saying they look really good, honestly this is like me saying I look good when I play my 11 year old nephew at knockout :faf:

[One Day Soon]

Everyone saying they look really good, honestly this is like me saying I look good when I play my 11 year old nephew at knockout :faf:

Do you though?

[Mon Dieu4]

Do you though?

Of course, I'm the champ :na na:

[Liam978]

Currently watching in a pub in England

This is agony

What a delusional bunch - you’d think they’re beating Brazil or Germany the way they’re going on

As if we wouldn't be the same and more, ah well we can dream cant we ?

[Pretty Boy]

Everyone saying they look really good, honestly this is like me saying I look good when I play my 11 year old nephew at knockout :faf:

They are beating what's in front of them and doing it with a bit style and ruthlessness, much like Belgium yesterday. It's good football to watch and I don't see what's wrong with acknowledging that.

[Lago]

I don't think England will win it but they are good to watch going forward. Their manager seems a decent guy and they come across as a group of young lads happy and proud to be there. As a team I like them.

If they keep developing then they will have a real shot at the next Euros imo.

You know PB your right, they are a young bunch of talented players led by a young manager. They will continue to improve. They could become quite a force to deal with.

[Hibbyradge]

Everyone saying they look really good, honestly this is like me saying I look good when I play my 11 year old nephew at knockout :faf:

Could you draw with Mexico and the USA and beat Costa Rica twice in qualifying? :dunno:

[Skol]

Just read the JKB match thread and they are praising the penalty awards and want this holding at corners outlawed.

FFS, do they not remember Zaliukas !

[Hibbyradge]

Just read the JKB match thread and they are praising the penalty awards and want this holding at corners outlawed.

FFS, do they not remember Zaliukas !

Funny you should mention JKB.

This thread resembles the ones they had about our Scottish Cup run in 2016.

[Mon Dieu4]

Could you draw with Mexico and the USA and beat Costa Rica twice in qualifying? :dunno:

Fancy my chances against the USA and Costa Rica, however Mexico are pretty quick on the break and I'm not getting any younger to track back as much

[hibsbollah]

Of course, I'm the champ :na na:

The Panama national team haven't gone joyriding on a JCB parked on Leith Walk :agree:

[Colr]

I don't think England will win it but they are good to watch going forward. Their manager seems a decent guy and they come across as a group of young lads happy and proud to be there. As a team I like them.

If they keep developing then they will have a real shot at the next Euros imo.

It welcome that they’re playing attractive football.

I end up watching it anyway and they’ve turned out some turgid rubbish over the years.

I always enjoy watching decent football.

[hibsbollah]

What's the score anyway? I'm in thegarden

[Hibbyradge]

What's the score anyway? I'm in thegarden

Is there a game on?

[Mon Dieu4]

The Panama national team haven't gone joyriding on a JCB parked on Leith Walk :agree:

:faf::faf: very quickly realised I wasn't the champ that day

[hibsbollah]

Is there a game on?

I wouldn't say its a game as such, kind of a picnic and penalty shootout combined. It's halftime.

[Aldo]

Funny you should mention JKB.

This thread resembles the ones they had about our Scottish Cup run in 2016.

Nah that one was much more fun.... especially when we went 3-2 up with 90 seconds to play!


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[Mon Dieu4]

I wouldn't say its a game as such, kind of a picnic and penalty shootout combined. It's halftime.

:faf::not worth

[Thecat23]

25/1 for a Kane and Stones Hat-trick.

[Thecat23]

I wouldn't say its a game as such, kind of a picnic and penalty shootout combined. It's halftime.

😂😂

[alihibs1]

People saying that it would be better for England to lose their final game is just gonna be used as an excuse when Belgium pump them.

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[Hibbyradge]

25/1 for a Kane and Stones Hat-trick.

Tempting

[Curried]

Watch it again. The boy behind him bundles him over. Also if it wasn’t a penalty VAR would have said otherwise and overturned the decision of ref!

Case closed




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I've just seen it again, and can't agree with you as the defender is first to the ball. Also as many have pointed out it was also OS.
I like the VAR, but it has proven to be just as fallible as the Ref (see the France v Australia penalty).
Pandora's box. :-)

[Hibbyradge]

People saying that it would be better for England to lose their final game is just gonna be used as an excuse when Belgium pump them.

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It'll be a draw

[Ronniekirk]

Rip Ferdinand was honest enough to say Panama aren't Professional or up to Non League Standard in England
I had them to win 5 0 but not at half time

Sometimes the Penalty box looks like a massive Tag Wrestling match


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[Thecat23]

Tempting

I’ve stuck a ten spot on it.

[Hibbyradge]

I’ve stuck a ten spot on it.

Who with?

[Aldo]

I've just seen it again, and can't agree with you as the defender is first to the ball. Also as many have pointed out it was also OS.
I like the VAR, but it has proven to be just as fallible as the Ref (see the France v Australia penalty).
Pandora's box. :-)

Defo not offside. His arm may have been but you cannot legally score with your arm so on.

VAR maybe flawed however I honestly cannot see why you would think it wasn’t a penalty.



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[Pretty Boy]

Panama seem very Hearts with their wee pushes, elbows and general needless thuggery. Always like seeing teams like that get beat.

[Just Jimmy]

Who with?I got same bet at 40/1 at HT with sky bet

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[Thecat23]

Who with?

Sky Bet.

[Thecat23]

That’s Kane got another just Stones now 😁

[hibsbollah]

No ****er is going to tell me the score are they :faf:

[Pretty Boy]

Looked offside.

[Pretty Boy]

Nope refs got it spot on, on by a heel.

[One Day Soon]

So for completeness I'll say it again - I ****** hate deflected goals.

[JeMeSouviens]

That’s Kane got another just Stones now 😁

Hits off him just as he’s subbed. Lolz.

[Aldo]

No ****er is going to tell me the score are they :faf:

Would you like to know the score H??


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[hibsbollah]

5-0????

[ardecos]

The game against Belgium is academic,since the winners or losers probably wont know who their next opponents could be.

Is the England V Belgium game not the last game of the next set of fixtures? If so they will know who they could be playing.

[Mon Dieu4]

Give him the right passes and Vardy could get a hatrick in 30 mins here

[Aldo]

5-0????

6-0 with Kane scoring a hat trick before being subbed


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[Thecat23]

Hits off him just as he’s subbed. Lolz.

I’d have been raging if he was hooked before that goal.

[Curried]

Defo not offside. His arm may have been but you cannot legally score with your arm so on.

VAR maybe flawed however I honestly cannot see why you would think it wasn’t a penalty.



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As I've already pointed out twice the defender gets to the ball first.

[SJNB Hibby]

Is the England V Belgium game not the last game of the next set of fixtures? If so they will know who they could be playing.

England now top their group with a draw v les Belgiques

[Pretty Boy]

Good save Pickford. 1st save from open play he's had to make in 2 games and he does well.

[One Day Soon]

Give him the right passes and Vardy could get a hatrick in 30 mins here

he really could

[Aldo]

As I've already pointed out twice the defender gets to the ball first.

You could point it out another dozen times it was Stonewaller pen every day of the week!


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[JeMeSouviens]

Is the England V Belgium game not the last game of the next set of fixtures? If so they will know who they could be playing.

Yep, group H in afternoon, Eng Belg in evening so they will know.

[Curried]

You could point it out another dozen times it was Stonewaller pen every day of the week!


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We all see what we want to see...stonewall or otherwise.

[hibsbollah]

6-0 with Kane scoring a hat trick before being subbed


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Aye right, has Nigel Farage done a Butt naked streak as well :greengrin

[JeMeSouviens]

This is refreshingly Tildesly free at least.

[IGRIGI]

Just how ***** were the US to miss out on qualification vs this lot?

[Aldo]

Aye right, has Nigel Farage done a Butt naked streak as well :greengrin

Not yet! Still time though!


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[JeMeSouviens]

Golden boot hotting up: Kane v Rom v Ron.

[Pretty Boy]

That was just pish all round from the Panama number 2. Lost the ball, let Sterling walk past him then just booted him. Sunday league special.

[One Day Soon]

Amateurish commentating, real chance for a 'Henderson to deliver' and he fluffs it completely.

[Ronniekirk]

No disrespect to Panama but Hibs Ladies would be putting them to the Sword


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[hibsbollah]

This is like a hibs match day thread. Just need a wee lewis argument.

[Smartie]

This is like a hibs match day thread. Just need a wee lewis argument.

Wee Lewis hasn't put a foot wrong today.

[One Day Soon]

Good for Panama.

[Curried]

Get in there:-)

[hfc rd]

They are going to win 7-6

[Pretty Boy]

Good goal by Panama. Stevenson was bloody sleeping, new LB required.

[The Modfather]

Back in it!

[hibsbollah]

Wee Lewis hasn't put a foot wrong today.

He doesn't tuck in, your eyes must be painted on, repeat to fade...

[Sylar]

The comeback starts now!!

[One Day Soon]

The comeback is on.

[One Day Soon]

So if 5-1 would be ending them as a footballing nation what does 6-1 do? Un-invent them as a country? :confused:

[Scorrie]

So if 5-1 would be ending them as a footballing nation what does 6-1 do? Un-invent them as a country? :confused:

Yep. Go to the United Nations and ask to be decommissioned as a country

[whiskas]

1-1 2nd half!

[One Day Soon]

Yep. Go to the United Nations and ask to be decommissioned as a country

"Dear Secretary General

Following the established Heart of Midlothian doctrine we apply to revert to simple canal status as a result of our 6-1 defeat.

Sincerely

Panama"


"Dear Panama

Never heard of Heart of Midlothian, but I did see the Hibernian FC Cup win in 2014. Wasn't Sunshine on Leith afterward splendid?

Request denied.

Sincerely

Secretary General"

[Scorrie]

"Dear Secretary General

Following the established Heart of Midlothian doctrine we apply to revert to simple canal status as a result of our 6-1 defeat.

Sincerely

Panama"


"Dear Panama

Never heard of Heart of Midlothian, but I did see the Hibernian FC Cup win in 2014. Wasn't Sunshine on Leith afterward splendid?

Request denied.

Sincerely

Secretary General"

Brilliant! 😂

[Hibbyradge]

Brilliant! 😂

Except for the date :rolleyes:

[Hibbyradge]

"Dear Secretary General

Following the established Heart of Midlothian doctrine we apply to revert to simple canal status as a result of our 6-1 defeat.

Sincerely

Panama"


"Dear Panama

Never heard of Heart of Midlothian, but I did see the Hibernian FC Cup win in 2014. Wasn't Sunshine on Leith afterward splendid?

Request denied.

Sincerely

Secretary General"

Ahem ...

[One Day Soon]

Except for the date :rolleyes:

Sunstroke :greengrin

[hfc rd]

"Dear Secretary General

Following the established Heart of Midlothian doctrine we apply to revert to simple canal status as a result of our 6-1 defeat.

Sincerely

Panama"


"Dear Panama

Never heard of Heart of Midlothian, but I did see the Hibernian FC Cup win in 2014. Wasn't Sunshine on Leith afterward splendid?

Request denied.

Sincerely

Secretary General"

Think Panama have the right to appeal that as the Secretary General got that wrong.

[JeMeSouviens]

"Dear Secretary General

Following the established Heart of Midlothian doctrine we apply to revert to simple canal status as a result of our 6-1 defeat.

Sincerely

Panama"


"Dear Panama

Never heard of Heart of Midlothian, but I did see the Hibernian FC Cup win in 2014. Wasn't Sunshine on Leith afterward splendid?

Request denied.

Sincerely

Secretary General"

“Dear Secretary General,

Where were the Blue Helmets when we needed them?

Staunchly,

Rangers”

[Pedantic_Hibee]

“Dear Secretary General,

Where were the Blue Helmets when we needed them?

Staunchly,

Rangers”

"Dear Rangers,

There were 11 on the pitch.

GIRUY

Secretary General"