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SquashedFrogg
26-06-2018, 08:11 PM
Ach, its barely showing...

Married to a cockney.... Gotta let it out sometimes my friend...

Tricky times 😁

hibsbollah
26-06-2018, 08:12 PM
Dear Terry Wogan

Love the show.

Surprise guest careering on to set with an ekkie'd Diego elbowing Rio out his seat to go face to face and show his knob to the philandering **** on his left please.

THANKS
Viewer.

:faf:

Hibbyradge
26-06-2018, 08:14 PM
He's always been mental. Don't see how me saying linekar is still a bitterly sad man means I shouldnt be taken seriously. It was a great moment and hopefully it's replicated in the last 16 and VAR fails to spot it. There would be a complete meltdown down south

You approve of deliberate cheating in football. Cool.

andybev1
26-06-2018, 08:18 PM
Linekar clearly still hurting about that glorious, beautiful hand ball. "He's become a bit of a laughing stock I'm afraid". Erm no Gary; ****ting yourself on the park during the world cup would make someone more of a laughing stock

Yes, that is was I should have thought of and said :top marks

IGRIGI
26-06-2018, 08:19 PM
When could England theoretically meet Argentina?

In true Kevin Keegan style...I WOULD LOVE IT if they put them out with a dodgy decision, combined with Maradona giving them the finger and someone with a Las Malvinas son Argentinas banner.

yonder1875
26-06-2018, 08:20 PM
Best moment of the World Cup that, for me.

Will be a bloody miracle if Argentina make it anywhere near the final, though. Some of the selection decisions from the gaffer are crazy. Mascherano is a name but he's finished at this level, should start the boy Pavon over Di Maria and start Aguero or Higuain who continues to not perform for Argentina.

we are hibs
26-06-2018, 08:20 PM
You approve of deliberate cheating in football. Cool.

I approve of England and hearts being shafted. It gives me a warm glowing feeling inside

SteveHFC
26-06-2018, 08:21 PM
France v Argentina will be great to watch on Saturday.

Hiber-nation
26-06-2018, 08:22 PM
I approve of England and hearts being shafted. It gives me a warm glowing feeling inside

Me too but Maradona was a complete embarrassment. They should have send the doping control squad up to pay him a visit.

HibbyAndy
26-06-2018, 08:22 PM
You're being silly here. Have you conducted an opinion poll to judge the percentage of people who think he's a laughing stock?

I don't think he's a laughing stock. I think he's the best player who ever lived and now is a funny guy who's eccentric and bonkers, but still demands respect. Lots of people, I would imagine agree.


Absolutely agree


Diego Maradonna is the best player the world has ever produced , Well in my lifetime anyway , It's not even close (in my era)

hibsbollah
26-06-2018, 08:24 PM
When could England theoretically meet Argentina?

In true Kevin Keegan style...I WOULD LOVE IT if they put them out with a dodgy decision, combined with Maradona giving them the finger and someone with a Las Malvinas son Argentinas banner.

It won't happen. If England win their group by holding off Belgium, they could face Argentina in the semis but only if England knock off probably one of Brazil or Germany in the quarters. Which they won't do.

blackpoolhibs
26-06-2018, 08:25 PM
Aye a puto "what" though..?! Greatest player I've ever seen but a complete bawbag of a human being.

I have no idea what it was, but it was clearly a f..... something. I bet you most on here have said similar at huns or gimps during a match.

yonder1875
26-06-2018, 08:26 PM
You approve of deliberate cheating in football. Cool.

It's one of the most iconic football moments ever, chill out.

Fritz
26-06-2018, 08:28 PM
You're being silly here. Have you conducted an opinion poll to judge the percentage of people who think he's a laughing stock?

I don't think he's a laughing stock. I think he's the best player who ever lived and now is a funny guy who's eccentric and bonkers, but still demands respect. Lots of people, I would imagine agree.

I agree, in my opinion he's the best player there's ever been. Well, the best I've seen anyway. But that doesn't excuse him from being a complete knob. He demands respect as a football player, yes. But not automatically as a person. And he's done plenty to lose that from me. And I take no pleasure from that, he's one of my all-time heroes.

hibsbollah
26-06-2018, 08:29 PM
Me too but Maradona was a complete embarrassment. They should have send the doping control squad up to pay him a visit.

What gets me is the double standards about cocaine use. Every journalist I've ever met can't seem to get through an evening without lengthy breaks to polish their noses on the porcelain, yet its their job to be moral judge and jury on celebrities doing it.

blackpoolhibs
26-06-2018, 08:29 PM
I approve of England and hearts being shafted. It gives me a warm glowing feeling inside

Yip, if they both lose and its been proven the ref, linesman and manager off the opposition were bribed for this to happen, i'd give it my blessing.

we are hibs
26-06-2018, 08:30 PM
https://twitter.com/emilioelmago/status/1011691506711891969?s=19


Tbf he's clearly off his nut here. But he has been for about 25 years now

IGRIGI
26-06-2018, 08:31 PM
It won't happen. If England win their group by holding off Belgium, they could face Argentina in the semis but only if England knock off probably one of Brazil or Germany in the quarters. Which they won't do.

I wish you hadn't told me that.

Watching the hype reaching levels unknown to man and then watching it all destroyed by the "argies" would have me doing a live show of the daffy duck gif.

Scott Allan Key
26-06-2018, 08:32 PM
Armani starting for Argentina. No punani, though.

My son mispronounced his Panini sticker album as punani. You can’t take him anywhere.


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Hibbyradge
26-06-2018, 08:32 PM
When could England theoretically meet Argentina?

In true Kevin Keegan style...I WOULD LOVE IT if they put them out with a dodgy decision, combined with Maradona giving them the finger and someone with a Las Malvinas son Argentinas banner.

Are you Craig Levein.

Didn't he say he would have preferred if the goal that knocked us out the cup last season hadn't crossed the line.

I remember enjoying that comment at the time, so I did.

660
26-06-2018, 09:02 PM
Maradona was drunk. If he’d been on the gear he wouldn’t have needed to be carried back into his executive box.

Wheat Hound
26-06-2018, 09:18 PM
France v Argentina or Hibs v Linlithgow Rose on Saturday......no contest. Petrie will outdo Diego for stand exuberance too!

JimBHibees
26-06-2018, 09:27 PM
Maradona these days is an embarrassment. The world's TV on him and he's behaving like that. He looked like he was out of his tree throughout the game.

Just a fan watching the game not his fault cameras were on him.

Lago
26-06-2018, 09:33 PM
Just a fan watching the game not his fault cameras were on him.
Correct

Stuart93
26-06-2018, 09:42 PM
Maradona rushed to hospital after the game...he was clearly on something.

Hibbyradge
26-06-2018, 09:44 PM
https://nypost.com/2018/06/26/argentina-legend-maradona-taken-to-hospital-after-bizarre-antics/

poolman
26-06-2018, 09:55 PM
Is there a subtitle button for Ian Dowie :confused:

Hibrandenburg
26-06-2018, 10:00 PM
Maradona rushed to hospital after the game...he was clearly on something.

He also has a history of heart problems probably linked to his lifestyle.

007
26-06-2018, 10:06 PM
My son mispronounced his Panini sticker album as punani. You can’t take him anywhere.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hope it wasn't whilst he was showing it to the minister.

MWHIBBIES
26-06-2018, 10:15 PM
Best moment of the World Cup that, for me.

Will be a bloody miracle if Argentina make it anywhere near the final, though. Some of the selection decisions from the gaffer are crazy. Mascherano is a name but he's finished at this level, should start the boy Pavon over Di Maria and start Aguero or Higuain who continues to not perform for Argentina.Aguero doesn't perform either, his record is no better than Higuain.

MWHIBBIES
26-06-2018, 10:20 PM
Absolutely agree


Diego Maradonna is the best player the world has ever produced , Well in my lifetime anyway , It's not even close (in my era)

What has Maradona done that makes him that much better than Messi or Ronaldo?

Col_0762
26-06-2018, 10:21 PM
What has Maradona done that makes him that much better than Messi or Ronaldo?

Is that a serious question?

Col_0762
26-06-2018, 10:22 PM
What has Maradona done that makes him that much better than Messi or Ronaldo?

Just for starters, a world cup.

MWHIBBIES
26-06-2018, 10:26 PM
Is that a serious question?Yes, of course it is.


Just for starters, a world cup.

Right, this is the only argument I ever see. Basically boils down to his striker, Burruchaga, scoring a 1v1 with the Germany goalie and Messis striker, Higuain, missing a 1v1 with the German goalie. If Higuain scores and Argentina win in 2014, what has Maradona done that Messi hasn't?

1875godsgift
26-06-2018, 10:31 PM
Yes, of course it is.



Right, this is the only argument I ever see. Basically boils down to his striker, Burruchaga, scoring a 1v1 with the Germany goalie and Messis striker, Higuain, missing a 1v1 with the German goalie. If Higuain scores and Argentina win in 2014, what has Maradona done that Messi hasn't?

Not created an alternative universe?

Col_0762
26-06-2018, 10:34 PM
Really?? Napoli team. Team of nobodies to be not so polite about them. Dragged them to be winners, domestically and in Europe. Messi, part of a Barcelona side with many legends and arguably one of the best club sides put together. Could he do it without them? We’ll never know. Maradona did. Internationally, both won player of the tournament. Difference is Maradona won it. A 1:1 in the final may be the difference to you, but he dragged them through that tournament. Then to another final in 1990. He’s miles in front of anyone, in my opinion. Just to watch him even warm up in the videos is a joy. Others’ opinion will differ and I accept that. That will always be the case. But at the moment, until either win a WC, that’s what seperates them. Simple as that.

Hibbyradge
26-06-2018, 10:49 PM
It's no longer possible during the current WC, but here's an interesting fact.

When Sweden play Denmark the score board days SWE-DEN.

The missing letters spell DEN-MARK.

MWHIBBIES
26-06-2018, 10:57 PM
Really?? Napoli team. Team of nobodies to be not so polite about them. Dragged them to be winners, domestically and in Europe. Messi, part of a Barcelona side with many legends and arguably one of the best club sides put together. Could he do it without them? We’ll never know. Maradona did. Internationally, both won player of the tournament. Difference is Maradona won it. A 1:1 in the final may be the difference to you, but he dragged them through that tournament. Then to another final in 1990. He’s miles in front of anyone, in my opinion. Just to watch him even warm up in the videos is a joy. Others’ opinion will differ and I accept that. That will always be the case. But at the moment, until either win a WC, that’s what seperates them. Simple as that.

Napoli weren't a team of nobodies, half of them were Italian internationals. The 2nd time they won Serie A they had Brazilian internationals as well. Top quality players. Zola and Careca were world class players. Maradona was the star of a good side. He wasn't doing it on his own.

Messi was the star of probably the best club side ever but Barcelona also wouldn't have been anywhere near as good without him.

Maradona dragged them through the tournament but Argentina probably don't get out the group in 2014 without Messi. Scored 4 goals in the 3 games. He also took them to 2 copa america finals, something Diego never did.

I'd agree if Messi hadn't got them to a final but it really boils down to a one off game. The 2014 final was so close. Same as the 86 final. Minor things and Messi is the winner, Diego isn't

Messi also has 4 Champions leagues, his club career far exceeds Maradonas. I could easily just say Diego didn't win the European cup, that's what separates them, simple as that.

To say Maradona is miles in front of Messi just isn't true. There is no argument that shows him miles ahead. Its extremely close if anything and if they both played now, Diego would likely be banned for taking drugs and Messi would be considered the best.

Stuart93
26-06-2018, 11:03 PM
It's no longer possible during the current WC, but here's an interesting fact.

When Sweden play Denmark the score board days SWE-DEN.

The missing letters spell DEN-MARK.

I appreciate this. More interesting than the whole who's better than who debate.

Hibbyradge
26-06-2018, 11:26 PM
I appreciate this. More interesting than the whole who's better than who debate.

It is quite good, but before the pedants appear, I should point out that it only applies in English.

If the game was in Sweden, the stadium scoreboard would actually say SVE - DAN

The missing letters would be RIGE-MARK.

Col_0762
26-06-2018, 11:33 PM
Napoli weren't a team of nobodies, half of them were Italian internationals. The 2nd time they won Serie A they had Brazilian internationals as well. Top quality players. Zola and Careca were world class players. Maradona was the star of a good side. He wasn't doing it on his own.

Messi was the star of probably the best club side ever but Barcelona also wouldn't have been anywhere near as good without him.

Maradona dragged them through the tournament but Argentina probably don't get out the group in 2014 without Messi. Scored 4 goals in the 3 games. He also took them to 2 copa america finals, something Diego never did.

I'd agree if Messi hadn't got them to a final but it really boils down to a one off game. The 2014 final was so close. Same as the 86 final. Minor things and Messi is the winner, Diego isn't

Messi also has 4 Champions leagues, his club career far exceeds Maradonas. I could easily just say Diego didn't win the European cup, that's what separates them, simple as that.

To say Maradona is miles in front of Messi just isn't true. There is no argument that shows him miles ahead. Its extremely close if anything and if they both played now, Diego would likely be banned for taking drugs and Messi would be considered the best.

Zola didn’t play with Napoli till 89. He was 23. Wasn’t capped till 91. Careca had a great season but is more remembered with Napoli after Maradona left, when Zola was starting to bloom.
And a European Cup will never be a World Cup. One World Cup with your country is worth more than 10 European Cups. In my opinion.
Difference of opinion which is fine.

Forza Fred
27-06-2018, 01:07 AM
I’m not impressed by many or any of the favourites. I think England have as much chance as any to go all the way.

I share your concerns.......least worst of a bad lot and all that.......

SouthsideHarp_Bhoy
27-06-2018, 02:38 AM
Zola didn’t play with Napoli till 89. He was 23. Wasn’t capped till 91. Careca had a great season but is more remembered with Napoli after Maradona left, when Zola was starting to bloom.
And a European Cup will never be a World Cup. One World Cup with your country is worth more than 10 European Cups. In my opinion.
Difference of opinion which is fine.

As much as I love him, Diego's club career doesn't come close to Messi's.

Yeah he won the world cup, but it is a great myth that the argh team were useless, and if higuain had his shooting boots on, Messi's team may well have won it in 2014.

Both greats imo, I don't understand this need to try and create imaginary competition between players, people do it with Ronaldo and Messi too.

For those that do though, if world cups are what really matter, then pele and the original Ronaldo, not to mention guys like Giuseppe Meaza, etc must be far greater than Diego?

J-C
27-06-2018, 05:45 AM
I get the feeling that Messi is being deliberately snubbed when it comes to passes from a few of his teammates. Think there might be a primadonna thing going on in the changing room.


IIRC Messi wasn't always well liked by the fans due to him never playing at senior level before going over to Barca, he's never really lit up a world cup and always looks like a shadow of the player he is when playing at Barca.

J-C
27-06-2018, 05:54 AM
Just for starters, a world cup.


So Best or Cruyff can't be considered 2 of the greatest to ever play this game because they didn't win a world cup, away!

Scorrie
27-06-2018, 05:57 AM
So Best or Cruyff can't be considered 2 of the greatest to ever play this game because they didn't win a world cup, away!

Aye but only one of them played for Hibs!

J-C
27-06-2018, 06:05 AM
Aye but only one of them played for Hibs!


True but we nearly had Jordi who was seen on the no.26 a few times :greengrin

Scorrie
27-06-2018, 06:07 AM
True but we nearly had Jordi who was seen on the no.26 a few times :greengrin

😃 one of the great transfer rumours!

MWHIBBIES
27-06-2018, 06:24 AM
Zola didn’t play with Napoli till 89. He was 23. Wasn’t capped till 91. Careca had a great season but is more remembered with Napoli after Maradona left, when Zola was starting to bloom.
And a European Cup will never be a World Cup. One World Cup with your country is worth more than 10 European Cups. In my opinion.
Difference of opinion which is fine.

Essentially your argument still boils down to a world cup which boils down to few small things in 2 different games. Messi wins in so many other categories. Diego scored 10 goals the season Napoli won the first title, do we really think Messi doesn't scored 10 goals in Serie A? Considering he got 91 in a calendar year...

Don't see why the world cup is so much higher than a European cup. Need to be good over 10 months to win European cup, it's no joke.

we are hibs
27-06-2018, 06:31 AM
I know Argentina have never been amazing defensively but I can't think of a worse defence at a world cup ever for a big side never mind Argentina at a world cup. They have been a complete mess for 3 games. People wandering everywhere, people taking too long on the ball and people giving the ball away every second pass. If they do that against France and France turn up then it could be an embarrassment

blackpoolhibs
27-06-2018, 06:52 AM
Essentially your argument still boils down to a world cup which boils down to few small things in 2 different games. Messi wins in so many other categories. Diego scored 10 goals the season Napoli won the first title, do we really think Messi doesn't scored 10 goals in Serie A? Considering he got 91 in a calendar year...

Don't see why the world cup is so much higher than a European cup. Need to be good over 10 months to win European cup, it's no joke.

:agree:

I'd say winning a world cup is not as good as winning a European cup these days, in fact i'd say there is much more quality in the European cup than the world cup when you get down to the last 8 teams of both.

calumhibee1
27-06-2018, 06:57 AM
Essentially your argument still boils down to a world cup which boils down to few small things in 2 different games. Messi wins in so many other categories. Diego scored 10 goals the season Napoli won the first title, do we really think Messi doesn't scored 10 goals in Serie A? Considering he got 91 in a calendar year...

Don't see why the world cup is so much higher than a European cup. Need to be good over 10 months to win European cup, it's no joke.

I think Maradonas goals tally that season says a lot. It was before my time, but you always hear how Maradona single handedly won Napoli the league yet he only scored 10 goals, and Argentina the WC where he scored 5 - admittedly a pretty good tally, but probably going to be beaten by Harry Kane in just group games this year. If that’s single handedly winning things then I’d love to hear what people would class what Messi and Ronaldo were doing when they were scoring 91 goals in a year etc a few years back.

Over his career Maradona scored a goal every 2 games near enough. That’s a very good record but it’s a mile away from being able to claim you “single handedly” done anything. Especially when his two league wins at Napoli had 26 goals between them (that total is not even enough to claim you came close to single handedly winning a title in one season, never mind two) and his 5 goals in the WC that he won would also suggest he was far from a one man show in that tournament either.

Hibrandenburg
27-06-2018, 07:26 AM
It's no longer possible during the current WC, but here's an interesting fact.

When Sweden play Denmark the score board days SWE-DEN.

The missing letters spell DEN-MARK.

Love stuff like that.

One Day Soon
27-06-2018, 07:45 AM
Which player at their peak would I take at Hibs if I could only have one out of Maradona, Messi or Ronaldo?

Maradona for me. Though it is difficult to truly compare because they played in different eras in which I think the way the game itself is played is quite different. I choose Maradona because I think he is the more complete player and because his style and personality on the pitch was radiant.

One Day Soon
27-06-2018, 07:53 AM
While I have been enjoying this World Cup hugely and I think that in most games there has been excitement of one sort or another to keep interest up, this time round it feels to me that the overall quality of the international sides is not generally what it has been in previous tournaments. The 'top' sides seem less consistent, less convincing and less overwhelming, the very weakest teams still seem the weakest teams but it feels like there are fewer of them than in the past and the standard of the improving teams seems to be up a lot: I'm thinking of everything from Colombia and Mexico through to Peru, Morocco, Egypt and even Tunisia.

Some sides just seem stuck in a never ending time warp of bland sameness that they've always been eg Australia, Denmark and Sweden.

I think FIFA need to seriously review both their rating/seeding system after the fiasco that is Poland and their qualification groupings given some of the nations that qualified and some that did not. In fact I think they should double the size of the intial group stages with 64 teams making it to the finals instead of 32.

Here are some of the nations that you could add to the current 32 to reach 64 taken in order from current world rankings:

Chile, Holland, Wales, Italy, USA, Austria, Slovakia, N Ireland, Romania, Eire, Paraguay, Venezuela, Ukraine, Turkey, Congo, Bosnia, Scotland, Montenegro, Greece, Czech Republic, Ghana, Bulgaria, Cameroon, Hungary, Burkina Faso, Norway, Jamaica, Slovenia, Albania, Bolivia, Ecuador, and Honduras.

It's not as crazy as it sounds - of those playing at this world cup Saudi Arabia at 67th and Russia at 70th are both lower ranked than every one of the extra teams I've listed above. Japan at 61st are lower ranked than all of those extra teams other than Honduras. So the list above with current participants included in it in bold looks like this:

Chile, Spain, Peru, Denmark, England, Uruguay, Mexico, Colombia, Holland, Wales, Italy, Croatia, Tunisia, Iceland, Costa Rica, Sweden, USA, Austria, Senegal, Slovakia, N Ireland, Romania, Eire, Paraguay, Venezuela, Ukraine, Australia, Iran, Turkey, Congo, Bosnia, Morocco, Scotland, Montenegro, Greece, Egypt, Czech Republic, Ghana, Nigeria, Bulgaria, Cameroon, Hungary, Burkina Faso, Norway, Jamaica, Slovenia, S Korea, Albania, Bolivia, Ecuador, Japan and Honduras.

That really makes me wonder what we're missing out on with Chile not being there for a start. But I also think it would be a much more interesting tournament with these other teams involved - probably less predictable, the middle and smaller sides perhaps less likely to play defensively if they knew that the 64 team format meant that they had a better chance of qualifying regularly, better for the game generally with a wider audience seeing their nation's players competing and far more interesting to see the variety of styles,players, characters and supporters from such a wide range of countries.

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 08:43 AM
While I have been enjoying this World Cup hugely and I think that in most games there has been excitement of one sort or another to keep interest up, this time round it feels to me that the overall quality of the international sides is not generally what it has been in previous tournaments. The 'top' sides seem less consistent, less convincing and less overwhelming, the very weakest teams still seem the weakest teams but it feels like there are fewer of them than in the past and the standard of the improving teams seems to be up a lot: I'm thinking of everything from Colombia and Mexico through to Peru, Morocco, Egypt and even Tunisia.

Some sides just seem stuck in a never ending time warp of bland sameness that they've always been eg Australia, Denmark and Sweden.

I think FIFA need to seriously review both their rating/seeding system after the fiasco that is Poland and their qualification groupings given some of the nations that qualified and some that did not. In fact I think they should double the size of the intial group stages with 64 teams making it to the finals instead of 32.

Here are some of the nations that you could add to the current 32 to reach 64 taken in order from current world rankings:

Chile, Holland, Wales, Italy, USA, Austria, Slovakia, N Ireland, Romania, Eire, Paraguay, Venezuela, Ukraine, Turkey, Congo, Bosnia, Scotland, Montenegro, Greece, Czech Republic, Ghana, Bulgaria, Cameroon, Hungary, Burkina Faso, Norway, Jamaica, Slovenia, Albania, Bolivia, Ecuador, and Honduras.

It's not as crazy as it sounds - of those playing at this world cup Saudi Arabia at 67th and Russia at 70th are both lower ranked than every one of the extra teams I've listed above. Japan at 61st are lower ranked than all of those extra teams other than Honduras. So the list above with current participants included in it in bold looks like this:

Chile, Spain, Peru, Denmark, England, Uruguay, Mexico, Colombia, Holland, Wales, Italy, Croatia, Tunisia, Iceland, Costa Rica, Sweden, USA, Austria, Senegal, Slovakia, N Ireland, Romania, Eire, Paraguay, Venezuela, Ukraine, Australia, Iran, Turkey, Congo, Bosnia, Morocco, Scotland, Montenegro, Greece, Egypt, Czech Republic, Ghana, Nigeria, Bulgaria, Cameroon, Hungary, Burkina Faso, Norway, Jamaica, Slovenia, S Korea, Albania, Bolivia, Ecuador, Japan and Honduras.

That really makes me wonder what we're missing out on with Chile not being there for a start. But I also think it would be a much more interesting tournament with these other teams involved - probably less predictable, the middle and smaller sides perhaps less likely to play defensively if they knew that the 64 team format meant that they had a better chance of qualifying regularly, better for the game generally with a wider audience seeing their nation's players competing and far more interesting to see the variety of styles,players, characters and supporters from such a wide range of countries.

It's going up from 32 to 48 in 2026.

J-C
27-06-2018, 09:05 AM
:agree:

I'd say winning a world cup is not as good as winning a European cup these days, in fact i'd say there is much more quality in the European cup than the world cup when you get down to the last 8 teams of both.


I agree, the top European teams are jam packed with the best in the world, whereas the top international teams have maybe 4-5 top players per team, European cup definitely a higher standard.

Pagan Hibernia
27-06-2018, 09:29 AM
It's going up from 32 to 48 in 2026.

and I’m gutted about that. Although it will make it easier for Scotland (hopefully), I think it’s going to lead to a bloated mess of a tournament with too many rubbish teams and a shed load of unwatchable games. I think it will lose its charm and just won’t feel as special.

wish Fifa would just leave it alone tbh, it’s probably as big as it should be now.

CorrieHibs
27-06-2018, 09:33 AM
and I’m gutted about that. Although it will make it easier for Scotland (hopefully), I think it’s going to lead to a bloated mess of a tournament with too many rubbish teams and a shed load of unwatchable games. I think it will lose its charm and just won’t feel as special.

wish Fifa would just leave it alone tbh, it’s probably as big as it should be now.

Agreed! There will be far more dross like Panama in it.

UEFA should have left the Euro’s alone too. When it was 16 it was class! The last Euro’s was very disappointing with the 24 teams.

JeMeSouviens
27-06-2018, 09:39 AM
Agreed! There will be far more dross like Panama in it.

UEFA should have left the Euro’s alone too. When it was 16 it was class! The last Euro’s was very disappointing with the 24 teams.

24 teams was rubbish in the world cup as well. When 3 teams out of 4 qualify from most groups, the incentive to play safe and boring football is far too strong.

CorrieHibs
27-06-2018, 09:53 AM
and I’m gutted about that. Although it will make it easier for Scotland (hopefully), I think it’s going to lead to a bloated mess of a tournament with too many rubbish teams and a shed load of unwatchable games. I think it will lose its charm and just won’t feel as special.

wish Fifa would just leave it alone tbh, it’s probably as big as it should be now.

Agreed! There will be far more dross like Panama in it.

UEFA should have left the Euro’s alone too. When it was 16 it was class! The last Euro’s was very disappointing with the 24 teams.

MWHIBBIES
27-06-2018, 09:55 AM
and I’m gutted about that. Although it will make it easier for Scotland (hopefully), I think it’s going to lead to a bloated mess of a tournament with too many rubbish teams and a shed load of unwatchable games. I think it will lose its charm and just won’t feel as special.

wish Fifa would just leave it alone tbh, it’s probably as big as it should be now.With the new way its going to work (16 groups of 3) it will probably have less rubbish teams. Crap will get weeded out really quickly, playing a max of 2 matches.

jacomo
27-06-2018, 10:01 AM
The overall quality of the World Cup might be below the Champions League, but the drama and pressure still elevate it above every other tournament.

I was thinking yesterday that the current 32 team format is great. FIFA needs to improve its seeding system which is laughable, but I worry that expanding the tournament will worsen it.

At least Scotland might qualify though!

calumhibee1
27-06-2018, 10:02 AM
With the new way its going to work (16 groups of 3) it will probably have less rubbish teams. Crap will get weeded out really quickly, playing a max of 2 matches.

Will it be 16 groups with winner going through or first and second going through?

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 10:03 AM
Will it be 16 groups with winner going through or first and second going through?

1st and 2nd.

calumhibee1
27-06-2018, 10:15 AM
1st and 2nd.

That’s a bit crap. The groups will just be teams who are trying to avoid getting beat in order to get through.

MWHIBBIES
27-06-2018, 10:19 AM
That’s a bit crap. The groups will just be teams who are trying to avoid getting beat in order to get through.I dunno, 1 win puts you through, I think it will be the opposite.

2 score draws will probably be enough as well. Actually might see a few coin tosses or fair play coming into play.

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 10:26 AM
That’s a bit crap. The groups will just be teams who are trying to avoid getting beat in order to get through.

Do you think so?

I thought it would be good. Teams only play 2 games. If they lose the first one, they must win the second.

If you draw your first game, a draw in your second game may not be enough depending on how they determine the ranking should all 3 games be drawn. Goals scored, then disciplinary points? :dunno:

It has been suggested that drawn games should go to penalties. That would be great.

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 10:36 AM
I dunno, 1 win puts you through, I think it will be the opposite.

2 score draws will probably be enough as well. Actually might see a few coin tosses or fair play coming into play.

If team A draws its first 2 games, it means that the 3rd game is massive. The winner will definitely qualify and the loser is definitely out.

If they draw, it's a lottery.

One Day Soon
27-06-2018, 01:05 PM
Why

One Day Soon
27-06-2018, 01:20 PM
Was too old for the Panini stickers but remember the Texaco World Cup coins in 1970. Anyone else remember them? Good header by the Russian.

Oh man I remember those. They went in a wee album with two outside leaves that folded over. I was just 5 then.

One Day Soon
27-06-2018, 01:31 PM
So following on the lengthy discussions about commentators here's a controversial perspective from the https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/jun/26/the-surprise-team-of-the-world-cup-jon-champion-and-ally-mccoist

Basically McCoist and his sidekick are a great double act. Discuss.

DarlingtonHibee
27-06-2018, 01:35 PM
So following on the lengthy discussions about commentators here's a controversial perspective from the https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/jun/26/the-surprise-team-of-the-world-cup-jon-champion-and-ally-mccoist

Basically McCoist and his sidekick are a great double act. Discuss.

Like him on talk sport, never forgive him for the overhead kick, league Cup final?

JimBHibees
27-06-2018, 01:44 PM
So following on the lengthy discussions about commentators here's a controversial perspective from the https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/jun/26/the-surprise-team-of-the-world-cup-jon-champion-and-ally-mccoist

Basically McCoist and his sidekick are a great double act. Discuss.

Tend to agree with that they do play off each other well and as the article says they give the impression that they are genuinely privileged to be there unlike Lawrenson for example.

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 01:53 PM
대한민국 파이팅! And vamos Mexico!

Mexico South Korea double would make my holiday a bit more luxurious.

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 01:59 PM
German players deep in Wagnerian dreams of world domination.
Koreans look like lambs to the slaughter, sadly.

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 02:00 PM
That german strip is delicious

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 02:03 PM
Boetang is on the naughty step, sitting alone

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 02:05 PM
That german strip is delicious

If it was a goal it would be Quaresmas the other night :rockin:

Iggy Pope
27-06-2018, 02:06 PM
Oh man I remember those. They went in a wee album with two outside leaves that folded over. I was just 5 then.

Around about the same time Esso did silver FA Cup winner coins. In fact it was 1972 for the centenary, Leeds being a big gold coin in the middle I think.

And also an album of silver foil club crests which was magnificent, the Hibs crest being the castle version. Covered Irish clubs as well as I recall, Glentoran being one that sticks in my mind. It was a work of art that collection. Wish I had kept them.

And neatly taking this back to the World Cup, my Munich 74 album which was when stickers replaced bubblegum cards I reckon. Ally Hunter was a ******* to get hold of. I seem to recall 1970 World Cup cards being given away with ice lollies....

J-C
27-06-2018, 02:06 PM
That german strip is delicious


Really, it just looks like it's Ireland playing.

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 02:08 PM
Really, it just looks like it's Ireland playing.

I think it's outstanding, only way to make it better would be if Adidas started putting the trefoil back on modern strips

Viva_Palmeiras
27-06-2018, 02:14 PM
I note he piped vuvuzela to mask crap atmosphere has bees switched off and some actual atmosphere and singing has kicked in in the last few matches. Have a word Russian tv feed

JeMeSouviens
27-06-2018, 02:17 PM
That german strip is delicious

It's got a bit of an 80s textured wallpaper thing going on. (presumably SuperFresco by Grosse und Braun)

JeMeSouviens
27-06-2018, 02:18 PM
Why

haven't you told us what you like about Uruguay yet? (Apols if I missed it.)

Smartie
27-06-2018, 02:21 PM
Tend to agree with that they do play off each other well and as the article says they give the impression that they are genuinely privileged to be there unlike Lawrenson for example.

McCoist's enthusiasm allows you to overlook the odd ropey mispronunciation of some difficult names. He's one of the best at the moment.

I don't tend to get too wound up by the commentators but I find Lawrenson insufferable. He has the casually racist voice of Brexit Britain, and I find his myopic view of the world from middle England, and the bizarre things that this inferior foreign lot do, offensive.

I should add that whilst there is probably a niche group somewhere who like him, I'm sure that the decent 99% of English folk find him as offensive as I do.

CockneyRebel
27-06-2018, 02:43 PM
McCoist's enthusiasm allows you to overlook the odd ropey mispronunciation of some difficult names. He's one of the best at the moment.

I don't tend to get too wound up by the commentators but I find Lawrenson insufferable. He has the casually racist voice of Brexit Britain, and I find his myopic view of the world from middle England, and the bizarre things that this inferior foreign lot do, offensive.

I should add that whilst there is probably a niche group somewhere who like him, I'm sure that the decent 99% of English folk find him as offensive as I do.



You just can't help yourself - what an offensive generalisation.

Craig_HFC
27-06-2018, 02:45 PM
I think it's outstanding, only way to make it better would be if Adidas started putting the trefoil back on modern strips

It is indeed an absolute belter of a kit.

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 02:48 PM
Before the last World Cup I remember watching a wee tv bit with Joachim Low on the way Germany play and recall that they timed how long every player was on the ball before they made a pass, from memory he wanted it to be under 2 seconds so that they would pass and move, seems like that has went right out the window in this World Cup

ancient hibee
27-06-2018, 02:48 PM
McCoist's enthusiasm allows you to overlook the odd ropey mispronunciation of some difficult names. He's one of the best at the moment.

I don't tend to get too wound up by the commentators but I find Lawrenson insufferable. He has the casually racist voice of Brexit Britain, and I find his myopic view of the world from middle England, and the bizarre things that this inferior foreign lot do, offensive.

I should add that whilst there is probably a niche group somewhere who like him, I'm sure that the decent 99% of English folk find him as offensive as I do.
Strangely enough I find your casual tarring of Brexit supporters as racist equally offensive.

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 02:52 PM
You just can't help yourself - what an offensive generalisation.

'offensive' :dunno:

I've read a few of your posts on various topics and you seem to equate anyone who has a different opinion to you as causing offense.

Just chill out and accept some people may disagree with you from time to time.

Santa Cruz
27-06-2018, 02:55 PM
Strangely enough I find your casual tarring of Brexit supporters as racist equally offensive.


Agreed AH. FWIW, I'm quite liking McCoist, not enjoying Lawro, and not hearing any political views being spouted by any of them. Now back to the fitbaw, or more likely, now it's half time, yet another interview with Southgate.

Smartie
27-06-2018, 03:05 PM
I did not label all Brexit voters as racist.

I referred to "Brexit Britain", the country we currently live in and the climate that we currently find ourselves in in the aftermath of the democratic decision that our country decided to make.

There has been a regrettable change over the past few years where previously unacceptable comments gradually enter the mainstream and find themselves acceptable, and many of us find it distasteful. Lawrenson's commentaries are littered with it - whether it is endless references to foreigners diving (but not Michael Owen, or on a Hibs theme Gareth Evans) or referees not knowing what they are doing (without acknowledging how much time is spent by managers and pundits on MOTM moaning about refereeing decisions).

Apologies to those of you who are offended, but if any of you fancy growing a slightly thicker skin I'd be happy debate this further over on the Holy Ground as I don't want to fill the space on this thread with political argument when it could be far better filled with crap puns.

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 03:06 PM
Should be scoring from there

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 03:07 PM
I did not label all Brexit voters as racist.

I referred to "Brexit Britain", the country we currently live in and the climate that we currently find ourselves in in the aftermath of the democratic decision that our country decided to make.

There has been a regrettable change over the past few years where previously unacceptable comments gradually enter the mainstream and find themselves acceptable, and many of us find it distasteful. Lawrenson's commentaries are littered with it - whether it is endless references to foreigners diving (but not Michael Owen, or on a Hibs theme Gareth Evans) or referees not knowing what they are doing (without acknowledging how much time is spent by managers and pundits on MOTM moaning about refereeing decisions).

Apologies to those of you who are offended, but if any of you fancy growing a slightly thicker skin I'd be happy debate this further over on the Holy Ground as I don't want to fill the space on this thread with political argument when it could be far better filled with crap puns.

:agree: You've got nothing to apologise about at all, bizarre.

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 03:09 PM
No, Mexico losing! They better not go out, they've been sensational going forward.

Johnny_Leith
27-06-2018, 03:10 PM
No, Mexico losing! They better not go out, they've been sensational going forward.

Not today. They haven't looked interested.

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 03:10 PM
only a matter of time before the Germans score shirly


Sweden score v Mexico, the Germans would be out

Smartie
27-06-2018, 03:11 PM
That was absolutely beautiful football until the finish.

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 03:12 PM
Ozil is looking world class today.

Johnny_Leith
27-06-2018, 03:17 PM
You wouldn't think the Germans could go out today, watching them.

They've been poor for the past 6 months, can't say it's a surprise their in this position.

Hibby70
27-06-2018, 03:19 PM
Who goes through if Germany score?

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 03:20 PM
Who goes through if Germany score?

Germany and Sweden I think

Santa Cruz
27-06-2018, 03:20 PM
Who goes through if Germany score?

As it stands Germany and Sweden

JeMeSouviens
27-06-2018, 03:22 PM
2-0 Sweden, Mexico in danger, Germany on the brink ...

Hibby70
27-06-2018, 03:22 PM
As it stands Germany and Sweden

I didn't realise Sweden had scored another when I asked. What would have happened if it had remained 1-0 in each game?

Santa Cruz
27-06-2018, 03:23 PM
I didn't realise Sweden had scored another when I asked. What would have happened if it had remained 1-0 in each game?

Think someone just said Sweden would have won the group on fair play rules.

Hibby70
27-06-2018, 03:24 PM
Think someone just said Sweden would have won the group on fair play rules.

And I assume Mexico next as they beat Germany, cheers

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 03:28 PM
Germany are a bit like us before we got Allan and Kamberi in, side to side

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 03:33 PM
3-0 sweden, wtf happened to mexico

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 03:33 PM
3 now for Sweden

Betty Boop
27-06-2018, 03:41 PM
You just can't help yourself - what an offensive generalisation.

:agree:

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 03:44 PM
time for the German keeper to start playing up front

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 03:44 PM
time for the German keeper to start playing up front

Sweeper keeper into striker keeper :agree:

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 03:45 PM
Absolute sitter

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 03:46 PM
german tries a shoulder shot

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 03:46 PM
Hummelss!!! :faf:

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 03:47 PM
Hummelss!!! :faf:

Almost did the famous Amadou duck heider

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 03:48 PM
ouch sair yin in the gonads, well just above the gonads

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 03:49 PM
Almost did the famous Amadou duck heider

I miss the Magician. I wonder what he's up to now. Snorting coke with Diego in a 'remain in the EU' dystopian nightmare maybe...

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 03:49 PM
6 mins to save the humiliation

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 03:50 PM
Ooooft. Offside?

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 03:50 PM
goal south korea......oops no it's not, offside :greengrin or maybe not

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 03:51 PM
That's no offside

blackpoolhibs
27-06-2018, 03:51 PM
Germany oot

hibee_girl
27-06-2018, 03:52 PM
Drama

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 03:52 PM
goal the koreans ouch

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 03:53 PM
Yes!

Aldo
27-06-2018, 03:53 PM
GOOOOOOAAAAALLLL SOUTH KOREA

Auf Wiedersehen Germany


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Jim44
27-06-2018, 03:53 PM
Deutschland Unteralles!!!

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 03:53 PM
Cheerio Germany, what a pathetic effort all round

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 03:53 PM
Deutschxit.

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 03:54 PM
imagine being part of the worst German team for 80 years :eek:

Craig_HFC
27-06-2018, 03:54 PM
One Day Soon is going to be raging

:greengrin

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 03:54 PM
lol 2-0

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 03:55 PM
This is great! 😂

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 03:56 PM
think of those germans that usually book their trips for the 2nd two weeks of the competition

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 03:56 PM
Koreans delighted.

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 03:56 PM
ABE team getting nervous...

WeeRussell
27-06-2018, 03:56 PM
Wonder if Shearer and his pals will be in such a huff about VAR after this one :greengrin

we are hibs
27-06-2018, 03:57 PM
ABE team getting nervous...



They would if England weren't notorious bottlers

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 03:58 PM
they think it's all over

Michael
27-06-2018, 03:58 PM
I love this World Cup. So mental.

we are hibs
27-06-2018, 03:58 PM
Imagine not liking football

blackpoolhibs
27-06-2018, 03:58 PM
That German manager wont need to pick his erse to smell his own sheite tonight. :greengrin

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 03:58 PM
They would if England weren't notorious bottlers

Germany are notorious winners.

Hibs90
27-06-2018, 03:58 PM
Scenes. Mad. Football at its finest.

SouthMoroccoStu
27-06-2018, 03:59 PM
This commentator is 2 seconds away from singing 2 world wars 1 World Cup

Stevie Reid
27-06-2018, 04:00 PM
And Leroy Sane couldn't get in THAT squad?!

JeMeSouviens
27-06-2018, 04:00 PM
ABE team getting nervous...

Find a new wind up - this one's :yawn2:

SouthMoroccoStu
27-06-2018, 04:01 PM
ABE team getting nervous...

It’s fine

It gives someone else a chance to become hated by the English

They hate Germany, Argentina, Portugal, Brazil....

At least Scotland are streamlined

Smartie
27-06-2018, 04:01 PM
There have been some pretty tidy performances from teams already knocked out in this round of matches. Good to see players show so much personal, professional and national pride to make proper games happen.

Germany have been insipid and tbh I think they would have been easy meat for England. An uninspiring German side in a big, big game would be a much easier prospect than an up-for-it Mexico or Sweden who are through on merit and might be underestimated.

I think the English should be a wee bit careful gloating about this one.

JeMeSouviens
27-06-2018, 04:01 PM
Delighted for Sweden - he who laughs last and all that. Plus would've been tragic to lose Mexico.

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 04:01 PM
Find a new wind up - this one's :yawn2:

Wind-up?

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 04:02 PM
I'm now liking Croatias chances, they are quietly going about their business

SHODAN
27-06-2018, 04:03 PM
Germany are notorious winners.

They only have to lose once.

JeMeSouviens
27-06-2018, 04:03 PM
I'm now liking Croatias chances, they are quietly going about their business

I have them in work sweep - so almost no chance!

Idemo Hrvatska though! :greengrin

MWHIBBIES
27-06-2018, 04:03 PM
£10 on Germany to win the world cup in 2022. They'll be back.

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 04:03 PM
Wind-up?

I think he means talking about the rights and wrongs of ABE is getting a bit boring. It's the world cup, there's much more interesting things going on.

Liberal Hibby
27-06-2018, 04:03 PM
I'm now liking Croatias chances, they are quietly going about their business

Yup me too. Nothing to do with the fact I've got them in the office sweepstake...

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 04:03 PM
I'm now liking Croatias chances, they are quietly going about their business

They have looked good. Belgium too.

JeMeSouviens
27-06-2018, 04:04 PM
Wind-up?

Trolololololol-lololol-lololol!

Smartie
27-06-2018, 04:05 PM
Another excellent example of VAR being used to great effect though.

That was one of those decisions that is very difficult for the referee and linesman to get correct in real time but was obvious after a replay.

marinello59
27-06-2018, 04:05 PM
They would if England weren't notorious bottlers

You mean the England team who qualified for the next round after just two games? They won’t win the tournament but they are a likeable group playing some decent football.

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 04:05 PM
I think he means talking about the rights and wrongs of ABE is getting a bit boring. It's the world cup, there's much more interesting things going on.

Indeed there is.

J-C
27-06-2018, 04:07 PM
This is the most open world cup for a long time, big teams not playing well and anyone right now could in this, hate to say it but England look the best team in the tourney so far,

Hibs90
27-06-2018, 04:08 PM
This is the most open world cup for a long time, big teams not playing well and anyone right now could in this, hate to say it but England look the best team in the tourney so far,

Not for me, Croatia have been immense

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 04:09 PM
that was a bizarre own goal by the mexican for the 3rd goal

MWHIBBIES
27-06-2018, 04:10 PM
Not for me, Croatia have been immense

Croatia are always great in groups. 2008 and 2016 won really hard groups. Have to take next step

J-C
27-06-2018, 04:10 PM
Not for me, Croatia have been immense


Can't argue with that, hence why I said the most open for years.

Smartie
27-06-2018, 04:11 PM
This is the most open world cup for a long time, big teams not playing well and anyone right now could in this, hate to say it but England look the best team in the tourney so far,

It will be interesting to see how England do in their third game. Nobody has put 3 good games together yet, maybe Croatia.

Mexico were good for 2 and appear to have been poor today. A few teams have been good in 2 and poor in 1.

You only really need to get through the first round. Momentum, performances and luck become more significant later on.

It really is wide open, and I wouldn't really rule out anyone.

This might possibly be favourite World Cup ever. It is brilliant.

WeeRussell
27-06-2018, 04:12 PM
This is the most open world cup for a long time, big teams not playing well and anyone right now could in this, hate to say it but England look the best team in the tourney so far,

Don't get me wrong, they've done their job and done it well. But scraping a win against Tunisia and hammering the worst team in Russia? Albeit a few teams haven't performed fully in the group stages... but I think we'll get a better idea of where England are tomorrow night.

Appreciate you weren't going over the top and it was based on hardly any big teams shining yet.... but England haven't blown me away either, nowhere near.

scoopyboy
27-06-2018, 04:12 PM
This is the most open world cup for a long time, big teams not playing well and anyone right now could in this, hate to say it but England look the best team in the tourney so far,

England made heavy weather of beating a Tunisia team that Belgium thumped and hit Panama for six which is fair enough.

For me not as impressive as Croatia or Switzerland even.

Lago
27-06-2018, 04:13 PM
ABE team getting nervous...
No Iceland no Germany, England's name is on this cup. Place your bets now. :agree:

Smartie
27-06-2018, 04:14 PM
No Iceland no Germany, England's name is on this cup. Place your bets now. :agree:

When can they lose on penalties to Portugal though?

JeMeSouviens
27-06-2018, 04:15 PM
It will be interesting to see how England do in their third game. Nobody has put 3 good games together yet, maybe Croatia.

Mexico were good for 2 and appear to have been poor today. A few teams have been good in 2 and poor in 1.

You only really need to get through the first round. Momentum, performances and luck become more significant later on.

It really is wide open, and I wouldn't really rule out anyone.

This might possibly be favourite World Cup ever. It is brilliant.

Ditto Belgium.

Uruguay & France both look tough to beat without setting the heather on fire.

WeeRussell
27-06-2018, 04:16 PM
Not saying they are the strongest team there but one of the most enjoyable performances for me was Colombia in the 2nd half the other night. Okay the silky stuff mainly came once they were comfortable... and I've missed a lot of games with being away with work etc... but I enjoyed it nonetheless :na na:

They will severely trouble England if that's who they happen to meet next.

JimBHibees
27-06-2018, 04:17 PM
Thought Lineker was an absolute erse at end of the show.

Lago
27-06-2018, 04:17 PM
When can they lose on penalties to Portugal though?
Yeah well there's always that I suppose😁

Lago
27-06-2018, 04:18 PM
Thought Lineker was an absolute erse at end of the show.
He's an absolute erse period.

JimBHibees
27-06-2018, 04:23 PM
He's an absolute erse period.

Wouldnt disagree.

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 04:25 PM
Not saying they are the strongest team there but one of the most enjoyable performances for me was Colombia in the 2nd half the other night. Okay the silky stuff mainly came once they were comfortable... and I've missed a lot of games with being away with work etc... but I enjoyed it nonetheless :na na:

They will severely trouble England if that's who they happen to meet next.

I think Colombia have a chance at the whole thing. I got them at 40/1,they dropped to 100/1 after the Japan defeat!

HibbyAndy
27-06-2018, 04:28 PM
Thought Lineker was an absolute erse at end of the show.

:agree:

He really is a an utter bellend

MWHIBBIES
27-06-2018, 04:30 PM
They are all smug now but one world cup and one confederations cup and one exit at the groups in the last 4 years for Germany. In 4 years more than England have achieved in history.

SHODAN
27-06-2018, 04:32 PM
They are all smug now but one world cup and one confederations cup and one exit at the groups in the last 4 years for Germany. In 4 years more than England have achieved in history.

Yup.

Germany Englanded it today.

snooky
27-06-2018, 04:32 PM
Been reading the papers, watching BBC, etc. England are home and dry. No need to play the rest of the games just give them the cup now. :cup:

:whistle:

WoreTheGreen
27-06-2018, 04:33 PM
:agree:

He really is a an utter bellend

What did he say watching it on Irish tv in Canaries whlch great no 66 pish and the usual crap

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 04:36 PM
What did he say watching it on Irish tv in Canaries whlch great no 66 pish and the usual crap

He was coked/drunk out of his brain, fell asleep during the match and gave the double bird to some Nigerian fans.

Oh no, that wasn't him. Lineker waved at the camera and said "Mein Gott, auf wiedersehen". :wink:

marinello59
27-06-2018, 04:38 PM
Been reading the papers, watching BBC, etc. England are home and dry. No need to play the rest of the games just give them the cup now. :cup:

:whistle:

Apart from the guy in the VW ads the media have been pretty realistic about England’s chances. :greengrin

HibbyAndy
27-06-2018, 04:45 PM
He was coked/drunk out of his brain, fell asleep during the match and gave the double bird to some Nigerian fans.

Oh no, that wasn't him. Lineker waved at the camera and said "Mein Gott, auf wiedersehen". :wink:


That was Maradona ya flange ;-)

ancient hibee
27-06-2018, 04:49 PM
Uruguay to win.

The Pointer
27-06-2018, 04:50 PM
When can they lose on penalties to Portugal though?

With 5 minutes of injury time at 0-0 I'd stake my life on Mummy's Boy taking a dive.

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 04:52 PM
That was Maradona ya flange ;-)

Yes, I know.

That was a joke, flangio. 😁

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 04:53 PM
The last time Germany were knocked out at the group stage was 1938.

How did they take that?

we are hibs
27-06-2018, 04:55 PM
You mean the England team who qualified for the next round after just two games? They won’t win the tournament but they are a likeable group playing some decent football.

The England side who have played two pub sides and have yet to face a decent side. When they do their bottle will go like it always does. Don't know about likeable either. Can't stand sterling and his constant diving and handling the ball when he hits the deck. Walker is a bit of a prick too.

PatHead
27-06-2018, 04:56 PM
The last time Germany were knocked out at the group stage was 1938.

How did they take that?

Pedant alert. It was not group stages. The first round was knockout. Good point though.

CropleyWasGod
27-06-2018, 04:57 PM
The last time Germany were knocked out at the group stage was 1938.

How did they take that?Annexed Austria.

Fat lot of good that did them in the next tournament.

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The Baldmans Comb
27-06-2018, 05:01 PM
Thought Lineker was an absolute erse at end of the show.

I would have to disagree. Lineker is an English icon broadcasting on English TV to a 90% English audience.

Him and Shearer carry so much England/German baggage and were creasing themselves that Germany were oot as were the the vast majority of their target audience.

I thought he said it with his usual twinkle knowing full well that's another threat gone.

HibbyAndy
27-06-2018, 05:01 PM
Yes, I know.

That was a joke, flangio. 😁

:thumbsup::greengrin

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 05:02 PM
Annexed Austria.

Fat lot of good that did them in the next tournament.

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Pedant alert; Germany got to the quarter final of the next tournament they entered in 1994.

ancient hibee
27-06-2018, 05:03 PM
Pedant alert; Germany got to the semi final of the next tournament they entered in 1994.
:top marks

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 05:11 PM
Brazil v Serbia tonight is going to be very interesting.

Switzerland should get at least a point from their game against Costa Rica, although as we've seen, nothing is certain. This means that Serbia need to beat Brazil who only need a point to qualify, but they need a win to have any chance of topping the group.

If Switzerland better Brazil's result, they'll be top, but if they lose, Serbia would qualify at their expense, with a draw.

Can't wait!

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 06:01 PM
Brazil better beat this Aberdeen *****

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 06:17 PM
Serbia looking surprisingly lively.

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 06:21 PM
I didn't realise how good the Serbian squad is, I like Tadic, he blows hot and cold but when he can be arsed he's great

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 06:23 PM
Brazil not exactly commiting many men forward :rolleyes: bet that changes if serbia and switzerland score :greengrin

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 06:27 PM
I didn't realise how good the Serbian squad is, I like Tadic, he blows hot and cold but when he can be arsed he's great

The Italians are going absolutely insane about milinkovic savic. Looks like a player.

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 06:29 PM
Jesus makes a meal of that.

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 06:30 PM
Jesus being too nice again, he shouldn't have looked to see if he was offside, wasted a bit of time

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 06:31 PM
Jesus being too nice again, he

That was always his way :agree:

JeMeSouviens
27-06-2018, 06:31 PM
Hop Suisse!

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 06:32 PM
That was always his way :agree:

He should go have a word with Edmundo he will sort him out, he gets Monkeys drunk and everything

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 06:32 PM
That was always his way :agree:

:faf:

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 06:33 PM
Neymar needs protection from some of these tackles but he doesn't help himself by being such a cock end

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 06:33 PM
Shouldn't that have been a booking for dangerous play? The high kick, I mean.

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 06:35 PM
Great ball and goal

IGRIGI
27-06-2018, 06:35 PM
A pass Mcginn would be proud of.

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 06:36 PM
wan-nil brazil twas a guid goal

we are hibs
27-06-2018, 06:36 PM
Great finish

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 06:36 PM
A pass Mcginn would be proud of.

It was a nice pass but credit Paulinho for the great run and finish.

Jim44
27-06-2018, 06:38 PM
Easy peasy - are you watching, Harry, Gareth, Gary, Mark. etc., etc., ........ .:greengrin

hibsbollah
27-06-2018, 06:38 PM
He should go have a word with Edmundo he will sort him out, he gets Monkeys drunk and everything

Shhh don't talk about alcohol abuse, the right wing Diego hating snowflakes on here will get offended :greengrin

HoboHarry
27-06-2018, 06:40 PM
Annexed Austria.

Fat lot of good that did them in the next tournament.

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Well in fairness it wasn't a first round defeat. They had knocked out the French and the Poles before they lost to Russia in awful weather.........

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 06:43 PM
nae need neymar, he didn't touch yer face

Jim44
27-06-2018, 06:44 PM
Neymar - cheat.

HibbyAndy
27-06-2018, 06:52 PM
nae need neymar, he didn't touch yer face


Neymar - cheat.



Well this is what VAR is for ,,,He should have been shown a yellow for his blatant diving in the last game , It's all very well giving penalties etc but it should also be for players diving

And there is no bigger fraud in the game than Neymar , The lad is a born cheat ..Lets use VAR and stop these cheaters from spoiling the game

CropleyWasGod
27-06-2018, 06:57 PM
Well in fairness it wasn't a first round defeat. They had knocked out the French and the Poles before they lost to Russia in awful weather.........[emoji16]

And then, in the European Championships in June of 44, the Allied Select grabbed the best bits of the beaches.

Germany has been taking its revenge ever since.

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Hibrandenburg
27-06-2018, 07:02 PM
No Iceland no Germany, England's name is on this cup. Place your bets now. :agree:

There's always Argentina.

HoboHarry
27-06-2018, 07:06 PM
[emoji16]

And then, in the European Championships in June of 44, the Allied Select grabbed the best bits of the beaches.

Germany has been taking its revenge ever since.

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Their coach's ideas didn't help much at that time. Suicidal defending......

Smartie
27-06-2018, 07:07 PM
Imagine how good Yugoslavia would be, if they were still a thing?

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 07:08 PM
Imagine how good Yugoslavia would be, if they were still a thing?

Boring story, I went there on holiday as a kid and before the troubles, would be in Croatia now, stunning place

One Day Soon
27-06-2018, 07:12 PM
I think it's outstanding, only way to make it better would be if Adidas started putting the trefoil back on modern strips

Serious, serious love for that style of Adidas top.

IGRIGI
27-06-2018, 07:14 PM
Imagine how good Yugoslavia would be, if they were still a thing?

Imagine how many competitions Scotland could've been a part of if they hadn't broken it up into an annoyingly high number of decent sides? :greengrin

One Day Soon
27-06-2018, 07:14 PM
haven't you told us what you like about Uruguay yet? (Apols if I missed it.)

I listed everything I like about Uruguay in the original post. You must not have read it properly.

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 07:16 PM
Anyone think that Neymar hesitated shooting in order to tempt the defender into a challenge?

SirDavidsNapper
27-06-2018, 07:17 PM
Think I'd probably rather England won the world cup than Neymar. He's as likeable as an Andy Halliday to Hibs rumour.

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 07:18 PM
Think I'd probably rather England won the world cup than Neymar. He's as likeable as an Andy Halliday to Hibs rumour.

:faf:

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 07:18 PM
Oh so close

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 07:21 PM
What a barry game this is turning into

One Day Soon
27-06-2018, 07:21 PM
This commentator is 2 seconds away from singing 2 world wars 1 World Cup

He really, really was.

heretoday
27-06-2018, 07:22 PM
When did Brazil become such cheats?

Jim44
27-06-2018, 07:24 PM
When did Brazil become such cheats?

They’re the pits. I would hate them to win this year.

Pretty Boy
27-06-2018, 07:24 PM
Brazil are all over the shop here. If Serbia commit someone to really help Mitrovic this is here for the taking for them.

Pretty Boy
27-06-2018, 07:25 PM
Shocking defending. Game over.

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 07:25 PM
Totally against the run of play that

Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 07:28 PM
They congratulated Neymar more than the goal scorer :confused:

It was a decent cross, but the strikers did the hard bit, no?

Betty Boop
27-06-2018, 07:28 PM
Mon the Samba boys brilliant from Neymar.

theonlywayisup
27-06-2018, 07:29 PM
Brazil in easy street - they'll score more

Deansy
27-06-2018, 07:30 PM
Been reading the papers, watching BBC, etc. England are home and dry. No need to play the rest of the games just give them the cup now. :cup:

:whistle:

Yup, their media's now pinning their hopes on England being the best by praying the other countries beat the best for them !

Mon Dieu4
27-06-2018, 07:32 PM
Brazil Mexico will be a brilliant game if this pans out and Mexico regain a bit form