Summer transfer thread

[Mikey09]

We don't need a DM that's just physical and strong in the tackle, Bartley does that, we need a play making DM, similar to Dylan but maybe a wee bit stronger in that position, our style of play has changed where Bartley has been left behind.


Personally would like to see Scott Martin given a wee run in the side. Really like his style.

[Ozyhibby]

Personally would like to see Scott Martin given a wee run in the side. Really like his style.

Not going to happen. He’ll be moved on this window I think.


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[frazeHFC]

Personally would like to see Scott Martin given a wee run in the side. Really like his style.

Same, think he did well enough in his last spell in the side to show he could be a good back-up option.

[Brightside]

Scott Martin did well in the Blackburn game. I’d also have him in there before Bartley and Whitts. But I also agree that I think he will be away somewhere.

[Speedway]

Adam Mitter?

That was the boy.

Nice one Fast Eddie. Thank you.

[Callum_62]

Has Mulumbus medical finished yet?


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[WoreTheGreen]

Has Mulumbus medical finished yet?


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MOT more like

[Big_Franck]

Scott Martin did well in the Blackburn game. I’d also have him in there before Bartley and Whitts. But I also agree that I think he will be away somewhere.

I don't think he did well against Blackburn at all. I thought he was sloppy in possession and easily brushed aside at times. The game and the opportunity passed him by for me.

[RN Hibee]

I’m torn on this transfer window, on one hand I absoloutely believe that quality over quantity is key if we want to keep improving as a club.

On the other I can’t pretend I’m not concerned by the sheer amount of recruitment still required by the club if we are to be ready for a successful season, we need at absolute minimum 3 new signings; a centre-mid, striker and left-sided winger but in reality we need another centre-mid and striker on top of that and could probably do with another centre-back as well if we are going to play with 3 at the back.

[Callum_62]

Noticed the Murray transfer hasnt been done yet

Maybe we are holding it up until we get a replacement?


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[Borderhibbie76]

I’m torn on this transfer window, on one hand I absoloutely believe that quality over quantity is key if we want to keep improving as a club.

On the other I can’t pretend I’m not concerned by the sheer amount of recruitment still required by the club if we are to be ready for a successful season, we need at absolute minimum 3 new signings; a centre-mid, striker and left-sided winger but in reality we need another centre-mid and striker on top of that and could probably do with another centre-back as well if we are going to play with 3 at the back.That's pretty much where I am too...understand the delay is caused by chasing quality and the SJM saga but also more than a bit concerned that it's 2 weeks till the league kicks off and our squad is somewhat threadbare looking...hopefully get a couple in the door in this week and we will all feel a bit happier going into Thurs night

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[KWJ]

I don't think he did well against Blackburn at all. I thought he was sloppy in possession and easily brushed aside at times. The game and the opportunity passed him by for me.

Agree.

[Borderhibbie76]

I see the Daily Ranger (I know hardly trustworthy) is reporting Hibs have issues over the man city wingers fitness?? Wonder if that's what's caused the delay in announcing this??

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[we are hibs]

We really need a forward in before Thursday. I like Shaw but I have doubts about him and kamberi as a partnership

[Ronniekirk]

We really need a forward in before Thursday. I like Shaw but I have doubts about him and kamberi as a partnership

If as reported above there is a problem with the Man City Wingers Fitness and that doesn't materialise I think we are going to struggle to get someone in and get them settled and Training with the Team ,unless of course it's McLaren But would be disappointed if we didn't manage to get one signing over the line before Thursday given Lennon hinted things would start moving on the Transfer front after the Faroe s game finished
Still think there will be though


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[Ozyhibby]

That's pretty much where I am too...understand the delay is caused by chasing quality and the SJM saga but also more than a bit concerned that it's 2 weeks till the league kicks off and our squad is somewhat threadbare looking...hopefully get a couple in the door in this week and we will all feel a bit happier going into Thurs night

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I’m only really worried about getting players in for the Ueropa games. There is plenty time to wait and get the right players in for the league.


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[SirDavidsNapper]

Listen, it could be worse. We could have signed 14 players and just be realising they are all pony.

If we didn't have the European games I'd be slightly more relaxed but this is a decent side we're about to play and our squad needs a couple quality additions.

[GreenCastle]

I’m only really worried about getting players in for the Ueropa games. There is plenty time to wait and get the right players in for the league.


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It’s 3 days before a game -(Thursday they won’t be training), realistically any new players will have 1 session or even none before Thursday unless we sorted something today and they train tomorrow.

We do need 3 or 4 minimum though and that’s it no one leaves.

[WhileTheChief..]

Think it will be nearer the end of August that we sign players.

We've got a strong enough squad for the first few league games anyway so I’m pretty relaxed about everything.

[Stuart93]

Think it will be nearer the end of August that we sign players.

We've got a strong enough squad for the first few league games anyway so I’m pretty relaxed about everything.

True but any dropped points at the start of the season because our recruitment isn't where it should be could be costly at the end of the season

[Col2]

I think the simple reality is:-

1. We had a small hope Dylan would stay and this didn’t materialize

2. We got Flo in fairly quickly, sorted goalie situation and got Mallen in after Dylan left.

3. IF we had sold SJM (given Celtic bids over last 2 weeks) then we would be expected to have had Allan (and fit) and probably another on loan from Celtic.

4. I am certain the cash would have allowed us to sign a player at least by now but given the delay then this hasn’t happened.

5. Simon Murray transfer not confirmed might also have an impact - him leaving would allow us for certain to go for another striker, any doubt or delay might make us wait.

6. I honestly believe we are now planning on short term for SJM to be here for Europa cup qualifiers. This round and next if we make it and could be another £500k income from prize money and attendance especially if we get a big name.

So in summary, assuming we all agree it’s quality that matters then we will need to wait. If you look at the Betfred cup fitness and form for our gorgie chums it’s clear that they are miles away from where they want to be. So one thing for sure is we will be fit and match ready for start of the league season with additions likely to improve us.

[Sioux]

It's seems fairly obvious that Lennon's looking to sign players that are at a higher calibre than we have been used to signing. Those players have options and won't just jump into anything that comes along. That's the way it goes. We either go with that, or we get back to signing players that might be the right ones. We know how that works.

Any potential signing is not going to be influenced by the carrot of a European tie. In the case of a three year deal, that one game, won't have a bearing on his decision.

All the wailing and gnashing of teeth wont change that I'm afraid.

[alihibs1]

Think it will be nearer the end of August that we sign players.

We've got a strong enough squad for the first few league games anyway so I’m pretty relaxed about everything.Still think we need and will have atleast have two new players before the start of the league. A strong start is a necessity of we are looking to challenge for second. 7 points from our opening 3 is what we should be aiming for.

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[The Leith Dutch]

We really need a forward in before Thursday. I like Shaw but I have doubts about him and kamberi as a partnership

Light on the bench I'll grant you but the following starting XI is fairly decent:

Bogdan
Gray Efe McGregor Hanlon Stevenson
Slivka McGinn Mallan
Kamberi Boyle

[GreenCastle]

It's seems fairly obvious that Lennon's looking to sign players that are at a higher calibre than we have been used to signing. Those players have options and won't just jump into anything that comes along. That's the way it goes. We either go with that, or we get back to signing players that might be the right ones. We know how that works.

Any potential signing is not going to be influenced by the carrot of a European tie. In the case of a three year deal, that one game, won't have a bearing on his decision.

All the wailing and gnashing of teeth wont change that I'm afraid.

I think the crunch is while a Europe run would add cash and be fun - over the season we would rather have a high level of player who will consistently perform and improve us than some dodgy loans or randoms.

So like others happy to wait as I know Lennon and co know what we need to improve in the league even if it means we lose to the Greeks. Ideally win both but qualifying for Europe again and being stronger in league is key if the club wants to keep growing.

[Sioux]

I think the crunch is while a Europe run would add cash and be fun - over the season we would rather have a high level of player who will consistently perform and improve us than some dodgy loans or randoms.

So like others happy to wait as I know Lennon and co know what we need to improve in the league even if it means we lose to the Greeks. Ideally win both but qualifying for Europe again and being stronger in league is key if the club wants to keep growing.

Agreed.

[My old man]

I think the crunch is while a Europe run would add cash and be fun - over the season we would rather have a high level of player who will consistently perform and improve us than some dodgy loans or randoms.

So like others happy to wait as I know Lennon and co know what we need to improve in the league even if it means we lose to the Greeks. Ideally win both but qualifying for Europe again and being stronger in league is key if the club wants to keep growing.

10/10

[mjhibby]

I think the simple reality is:-

1. We had a small hope Dylan would stay and this didn’t materialize

2. We got Flo in fairly quickly, sorted goalie situation and got Mallen in after Dylan left.

3. IF we had sold SJM (given Celtic bids over last 2 weeks) then we would be expected to have had Allan (and fit) and probably another on loan from Celtic.

4. I am certain the cash would have allowed us to sign a player at least by now but given the delay then this hasn’t happened.

5. Simon Murray transfer not confirmed might also have an impact - him leaving would allow us for certain to go for another striker, any doubt or delay might make us wait.

6. I honestly believe we are now planning on short term for SJM to be here for Europa cup qualifiers. This round and next if we make it and could be another £500k income from prize money and attendance especially if we get a big name.

So in summary, assuming we all agree it’s quality that matters then we will need to wait. If you look at the Betfred cup fitness and form for our gorgie chums it’s clear that they are miles away from where they want to be. So one thing for sure is we will be fit and match ready for start of the league season with additions likely to improve us.

That's roughly my thoughts too. The mcginn situation is clouding the waters. If he goes we are weaker in midfield but I suspect it will allow us to get two or three quality guys in. Plus of course if we get through the next round in Europe then the likes of mclaren and Allan could be sorted much quicker with the extra money. Think we are all needing to be patient. Aberdeen are having exactly the same issues and resigning ball shows they are struggling to get quality in.

[we are hibs]

I think the crunch is while a Europe run would add cash and be fun - over the season we would rather have a high level of player who will consistently perform and improve us than some dodgy loans or randoms.

So like others happy to wait as I know Lennon and co know what we need to improve in the league even if it means we lose to the Greeks. Ideally win both but qualifying for Europe again and being stronger in league is key if the club wants to keep growing.

Surely the point of the league is that we are trying to qualify for Europe No? Don't see the point in qualifying then dismissing it as not as important as the league

[Ozyhibby]

Surely the point of the league is that we are trying to qualify for Europe No? Don't see the point in qualifying then dismissing it as not as important as the league

100% agree. These are the most important games of the season as they could have a massive impact if we are successful.


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[Hermit Crab]

Light on the bench I'll grant you but the following starting XI is fairly decent:

Bogdan
Gray Efe McGregor Hanlon Stevenson
Slivka McGinn Mallan
Kamberi Boyle


Jury is still out on him for me, looked ropey in the Faroes.

[WhileTheChief..]

Motherwell Home
St Johnstone Away
Aberdeen Home

No idea if they are weaker or stronger than last season but I’d be delighted with 7pts from these opening games.

Still think we’ve got the squad to do it as things stand but would expect 2 or 3 additions before the window shuts.

[Allant1981]

Jury is still out on him for me, looked ropey in the Faroes.

no he didnt

[sundo1875]

no he didnt

Yes he did. He’s not made 1 save in 2 games against a team from the Faroe Islands.

[hfc rd]

100% agree. These are the most important games of the season as they could have a massive impact if we are successful.


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Agree. Hibs’ objective in the league is to qualify for Europe. We are not going to win the league and anything less than a European finish in the league is something I wouldn’t consider a successful campaign.

Qualifying for Europe, we should make a good go at it in trying to go as far as possible rather than accepting a defeat against whoever we face so we can fully turn our attentions to the league again. Doing that then is there any real point in taking up a European spot when you aren’t really going to be taking the competition seriously.

[Allant1981]

Yes he did. He’s not made 1 save in 2 games against a team from the Faroe Islands.

well thats just rubbish

[Heisenberg]

Yes he did. He’s not made 1 save in 2 games against a team from the Faroe Islands.

Yes he has.

Also, which goals in the faroes could he have done better with? I’d say only the first, and even then I think that’s being harsh.

[sundo1875]

well thats just rubbish

He was also too slow off his line which made our defenders give away needless throw ins. If that happens against a bigger team we will be punished.

[Spike Mandela]

Agree. Hibs’ objective in the league is to qualify for Europe. We are not going to win the league and anything less than a European finish in the league is something I wouldn’t consider a successful campaign.

Qualifying for Europe, we should make a good go at it in trying to go as far as possible rather than accepting a defeat against whoever we face so we can fully turn our attentions to the league again. Doing that then is there any real point in taking up a European spot when you aren’t really going to be taking the competition seriously.

Has anyone considered that it will be the same for our opponents if they are trying to get better players for their team.

[Allant1981]

He was also too slow off his line which made our defenders give away needless throw ins. If that happens against a bigger team we will be punished.

again rubbish, i suggest you go back and watch the games again

[Bostonhibby]

As we need a defensive midfielder, anyone rate the walking yellow card Adoa that played for the yams last season? Just been released by his club.


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[PatHead]

Agree. Hibs’ objective in the league is to qualify for Europe. We are not going to win the league and anything less than a European finish in the league is something I wouldn’t consider a successful campaign.

Qualifying for Europe, we should make a good go at it in trying to go as far as possible rather than accepting a defeat against whoever we face so we can fully turn our attentions to the league again. Doing that then is there any real point in taking up a European spot when you aren’t really going to be taking the competition seriously.
Who says we are not taking it seriously? Are we putting out reserves? Ridiculous statement.

[GreenCastle]

Surely the point of the league is that we are trying to qualify for Europe No? Don't see the point in qualifying then dismissing it as not as important as the league

I know what you mean but are we realistically going to make the group stages ?

We will either be knocked out by the Greeks or the 2 rounds after that mainly due to other teams with more resources than us with better players.

Not saying Europe isn’t where Hibs should be - I feel the group stages are attainable if the club have the ambition but we also have to be realistic to the progress we have made in a short space of time.

I would rather make sure we have a squad ready to qualify for Europe next season than beat the Greeks and lose in next round. Then neztseason we will be more prepared and a stronger group. Basically steady progress maintaining a winning mentality.

[SquashedFrogg]

Jury is still out on him for me, looked ropey in the Faroes.

Jesus...

[ancient hibee]

Agree. Hibs’ objective in the league is to qualify for Europe. We are not going to win the league and anything less than a European finish in the league is something I wouldn’t consider a successful campaign.

Qualifying for Europe, we should make a good go at it in trying to go as far as possible rather than accepting a defeat against whoever we face so we can fully turn our attentions to the league again. Doing that then is there any real point in taking up a European spot when you aren’t really going to be taking the competition seriously.


And Hibs have said they are accepting of a defeat have they?Think you are confusing the many opinions on here with what the management of the club view is.

[Ozyhibby]

Who says we are not taking it seriously? Are we putting out reserves? Ridiculous statement.

I’m certain Hibs are taking it very seriously. They know the importance of it for us to take the next step as a club.
Some fans however seem to think it’s just a pre season warm up. Doesn’t really matter though as long as the club are.


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[Ozyhibby]

I know what you mean but are we realistically going to make the group stages ?

We will either be knocked out by the Greeks or the 2 rounds after that mainly due to other teams with more resources than us with better players.

Not saying Europe isn’t where Hibs should be - I feel the group stages are attainable if the club have the ambition but we also have to be realistic to the progress we have made in a short space of time.

I would rather make sure we have a squad ready to qualify for Europe next season than beat the Greeks and lose in next round. Then neztseason we will be more prepared and a stronger group. Basically steady progress maintaining a winning mentality.

There will be teams with a lot less resources than us in those groups. We will need a bit luck in the draw though.


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[Borderhibbie76]

Yes he did. He’s not made 1 save in 2 games against a team from the Faroe Islands.He actually made decent saves in both legs but don't let that get in the way of bashing our new keeper

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[J-C]

I see all the in house bickering has started again on this thread :confused: now it's all over a new keeper still finding his feet at our club, he was hung out to dry on thursday due to the defence being a shambles and the goal at ER was a huge deflection.

[Hermit Crab]

I see all the in house bickering has started again on this thread :confused: now it's all over a new keeper still finding his feet at our club, he was hung out to dry on thursday due to the defence being a shambles and the goal at ER was a huge deflection.


Yes but he should have shouted for the first and the 4th he was too slow to come out, anyway I really hope Hanlon and McGregor are fit for Thursday as I've no confidence in that back 3 that played last Thursday to keep a clean sheet.

[BoomtownHibees]

Yes but he should have shouted for the first and the 4th he was too slow to come out, anyway I really hope Hanlon and McGregor are fit for Thursday as I've no confidence in that back 3 that played last Thursday to keep a clean sheet.

1. How do you know he never shouted?

2. He was in no way to blame for the 4th goal or any of the others

[Ryan69]

So if we get beat in Thursday...Can the club really say we did all we could?

Our transfer activity after Lennons comments about getting to the group stages...has been nothing short of shocking!

I know it will offend many people and I appologise for stating the truth!!!

[Newcastlehibby]

I know what you mean but are we realistically going to make the group stages ?

We will either be knocked out by the Greeks or the 2 rounds after that mainly due to other teams with more resources than us with better players.

Not saying Europe isn’t where Hibs should be - I feel the group stages are attainable if the club have the ambition but we also have to be realistic to the progress we have made in a short space of time.

I would rather make sure we have a squad ready to qualify for Europe next season than beat the Greeks and lose in next round. Then neztseason we will be more prepared and a stronger group. Basically steady progress maintaining a winning mentality.

Do you not think tbat the €260,000 for playing in the third round would benefit the club and player recruitment?

[Allant1981]

So if we get beat in Thursday...Can the club really say we did all we could?

Our transfer activity after Lennons comments about getting to the group stages...has been nothing short of shocking!

I know it will offend many people and I appologise for stating the truth!!!

what truth have you stated? we needed a keeper, we signed one, we needed a forward, we signed one, we needed a midfielder, we signed one

[Hermit Crab]

So if we get beat in Thursday...Can the club really say we did all we could?

Our transfer activity after Lennons comments about getting to the group stages...has been nothing short of shocking!

I know it will offend many people and I appologise for stating the truth!!!


Watch out mate, it'll be a pitchfork and torch job if you're not careful. :greengrin

[Callum_62]

Is Agyepong out of contract?


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[Ryan69]

He actually made decent saves in both legs but don't let that get in the way of bashing our new keeper

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If you didnt realise...He conceded 5 against a part time team...and was very sloppy.
The constant punching....is not good too.

Every goalie has bad games....But please dont defend the games he has played.

[Squirrel 1875]

Yes he did. He’s not made 1 save in 2 games against a team from the Faroe Islands.

He made a few excellent saves in the second leg. Not one of the goals he could have stopped. You’re clutching at straws trying to invent another scapegoat.

[Hermit Crab]

Is Agyepong out of contract?


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No. Think city want him out on loan though.

[Ryan69]

what truth have you stated? we needed a keeper, we signed one, we needed a forward, we signed one, we needed a midfielder, we signed one

We need a team if you didnt realise.

Its was stated we have the biggest transfer budget ever for Hibs!
Kamberi and Mallan aint on that much.
Bogdan.....Was absolute rubbish.

[WhileTheChief..]

Fairly confident of going through against the Greeks.

All depends on the draw as to whether we get to the playoff round but I’d hope this the club’s top priority.

Qualifying for the group stages would have a huge impact on us.

[Borderhibbie76]

If you didnt realise...He conceded 5 against a part time team...and was very sloppy.
The constant punching....is not good too.

Every goalie has bad games....But please dont defend the games he has played.Yes I realised how many he conceded I'm not thick and am able to count thanks...

And yes I will defend the 2 games he's played as the 4 he conceded last Thurs were down to shambolic defending in front of him...

I've not seen enough to know whether he's a decent keeper or not yet but he wasn't at fault the other night and I will reserve judgement till I've seen him play regularly in front of our normal defence

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[Allant1981]

We need a team if you didnt realise.

Its was stated we have the biggest transfer budget ever for Hibs!
Kamberi and Mallan aint on that much.
Bogdan.....Was absolute rubbish.

if you are going to try state facts at least get them right, and you know this for a fact do you how much they earn, more slavering from you

[CropleyWasGod]

We need a team if you didnt realise.

Its was stated we have the biggest transfer budget ever for Hibs!
Kamberi and Mallan aint on that much.
Bogdan.....Was absolute rubbish.

No it wasn't.

[PatHead]

Yes I realised how many he conceded I'm not thick and am able to count thanks...

And yes I will defend the 2 games he's played as the 4 he conceded last Thurs were down to shambolic defending in front of him...

I've not seen enough to know whether he's a decent keeper or not yet but he wasn't at fault the other night and I will reserve judgement till I've seen him play regularly in front of our normal defence

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Agree with you but hope he plays behind our defence rather than in front of them!😀

[Borderhibbie76]

Agree with you but hope he plays behind our defence rather than in front of them![emoji3]Ooops yeah let's hope so [emoji23]

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[Ozyhibby]

Can’t believe Bogdan is getting the blame for the goals we lost the other night. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[Hibeewilly]

No it wasn't.
You are right....Leanne said NL had the biggest football budget not transfer budget and that includes money to spend on the academy and things behind the scenes like sports science etc

[bingo70]

Can’t believe Bogdan is getting the blame for the goals we lost the other night. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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He’s not really.

I don’t think he was to blame at any of the goals but there were times he’s made me a bit nervous. He’s not really made any decent saves yet (I’m not saying that’s his fault) and a bit shaky at crosses so I can understand people that are saying the jury is still out. I think it is too

[My old man]

I think the crunch is while a Europe run would add cash and be fun - over the season we would rather have a high level of player who will consistently perform and improve us than some dodgy loans or randoms.

So like others happy to wait as I know Lennon and co know what we need to improve in the league even if it means we lose to the Greeks. Ideally win both but qualifying for Europe again and being stronger in league is key if the club wants to keep growing.

10/10

[madhatter]

what truth have you stated? we needed a keeper, we signed one, we needed a forward, we signed one, we needed a midfielder, we signed one

We needed more than one forward. We were short in that department last season - McLaren, Kamberi and Shaw has become Kamberi and Shaw...so weakened.

We’ve lost arguably our best player in McGeouch and have signed another midfielder that is not even close to being the same type of player. We don’t have a single player I’d trust to do what McGeouch did. Dylan could keep the ball when surrounded by players and still pick the correct pass. We’ve also lost Barker. So 2 out, 1 in. So as it stands we are weaker than last season.

Keeper, we got one on loan as it seems we have no confidence in Laidlaw, was he a mistake? Don’t think a keeper was planned anyway, that was a reaction to Marciano’s injury. Seeing as it is an ex-Lennon player I also think this one was rushed and didn’t go through the normal scouting and recruitment process. He isn’t as good as Marciano so we are weaker for the moment.

Defence? Well we’ve lost Rherras so you could argue we are stronger but at the moment our senior players would need to play every single match (ignoring Whittaker who should be a backup and Porteous who isn’t quite ready to play every match). Let’s be honest we’re in the same weakened position as last season, relying on Efe, McGregor and Hanlon. In truth, when McGregor is out and Hanlon and Efe play as a 2, we look weak. Think that is big reason for 3 at the back, Darren can’t run about a lot but is a beast.

I can understand people saying “don’t panic” but I cannot understand the whole “we’ve made signings for who was required” argument. I’ll give an example against that, Stevenson injured who plays LB? Kamberi injured and we go 1 up top in Shaw? McGregor and Hanlon both get injured and we play that awful back 3 again? We are very short in numbers, we have a solid enough starting line up when fit but after that we have nothing in reserve. Hoping we get numbers shortly, still not sure why the club don’t have a list they can quickly work down - getting a “yes” or a “no” to.

[The_Horde]

He’s not really.

I don’t think he was to blame at any of the goals but there were times he’s made me a bit nervous. He’s not really made any decent saves yet (I’m not saying that’s his fault) and a bit shaky at crosses so I can understand people that are saying the jury is still out. I think it is too

Agree with this. Not any obvious errors but also not any obvious signs of his quality yet either. You'd maybe think Offy would have saved a 1 or 2 of those goals, that's what the best keepers do.

Will give Bogdan the benefit of the doubt in his 2nd competitive match in nearly 2 years though.

[Allant1981]

We needed more than one forward. We were short in that department last season - McLaren, Kamberi and Shaw has become Kamberi and Shaw...so weakened.

We’ve lost arguably our best player in McGeouch and have signed another midfielder that is not even close to being the same type of player. We don’t have a single player I’d trust to do what McGeouch did. Dylan could keep the ball when surrounded by players and still pick the correct pass. We’ve also lost Barker. So 2 out, 1 in. So as it stands we are weaker than last season.

Keeper, we got one on loan as it seems we have no confidence in Laidlaw, was he a mistake? Don’t think a keeper was planned anyway, that was a reaction to Marciano’s injury. Seeing as it is an ex-Lennon player I also think this one was rushed and didn’t go through the normal scouting and recruitment process. He isn’t as good as Marciano so we are weaker for the moment.

Defence? Well we’ve lost Rherras so you could argue we are stronger but at the moment our senior players would need to play every single match (ignoring Whittaker who should be a backup and Porteous who isn’t quite ready to play every match). Let’s be honest we’re in the same weakened position as last season, relying on Efe, McGregor and Hanlon. In truth, when McGregor is out and Hanlon and Efe play as a 2, we look weak. Think that is big reason for 3 at the back, Darren can’t run about a lot but is a beast.

I can understand people saying “don’t panic” but I cannot understand the whole “we’ve made signings for who was required” argument. I’ll give an example against that, Stevenson injured who plays LB? Kamberi injured and we go 1 up top in Shaw? McGregor and Hanlon both get injured and we play that awful back 3 again? We are very short in numbers, we have a solid enough starting line up when fit but after that we have nothing in reserve. Hoping we get numbers shortly, still not sure why the club don’t have a list they can quickly work down - getting a “yes” or a “no” to.

i agree we are still short in numbers, dont think anyone can dispute that and im pretty certain the club are working towards getting players in, im almost pretty certain its also not a case of going down a list of players and getting a yes or no quickly either as much as we as fans would love that to happen, as it stands we still have a very decent squad, another 2-4 players in would be great though if your examples above were to happen

[madhatter]

I wonder what people would say if the following came to pass (not too unbelievable) - Kamberi picks up a knock before Thursday and is out for both ties. McGregor and Hanlon pick up knocks and are out. So, we go into the games with a garbage defence and Shaw upfront on his own...

I’m not panicking btw but the above scenario isn’t too far fetched and clearly points out how short we are at the moment.

[Billy Whizz]

I wonder what people would say if the following came to pass (not too unbelievable) - Kamberi picks up a knock before Thursday and is out for both ties. McGregor and Hanlon pick up knocks and are out. So, we go into the games with a garbage defence and Shaw upfront on his own...

I’m not panicking btw but the above scenario isn’t too far fetched and clearly points out how short we are at the moment.

We’ll win 6-4😄

[B.H.F.C]

i agree we are still short in numbers, dont think anyone can dispute that and im pretty certain the club are working towards getting players in, im almost pretty certain its also not a case of going down a list of players and getting a yes or no quickly either as much as we as fans would love that to happen, as it stands we still have a very decent squad, another 2-4 players in would be great though if your examples above were to happen

We don’t have a decent squad IMO. What we have is a more than decent first 11. As things stand I think our first 11 more or less picks itself. One or two players being out would affect the team massively at the moment, as we saw defensively the other night.

There has been a lot of debate about being ready for the league season being the most important thing but that’s getting very close now as well.

[madhatter]

i agree we are still short in numbers, dont think anyone can dispute that and im pretty certain the club are working towards getting players in, im almost pretty certain its also not a case of going down a list of players and getting a yes or no quickly either as much as we as fans would love that to happen, as it stands we still have a very decent squad, another 2-4 players in would be great though if your examples above were to happen

We are short on numbers but we also have too much cover in centre midfield area without necessarily having 2-3 we are happy to play in there at the moment. Then at the same time we don’t have a left winger at all, we only have 1 right winger in Boyle, we only have 1 left back in Stevenson, we only have 2 forwards in Kamberi and Shaw.

There is talk of Allan coming, so in the centre area of midfield that would give us Swanson, Slivka, Bartley, Mallan, Allan, and probably Whittaker, assuming McGinn is away.

I’d argue we will see closer to 5 players coming in with 2-3 leaving. Need more balance and cover throughout the team.

[madhatter]

We’ll win 6-4😄

Hope so.

[Ryan69]

if you are going to try state facts at least get them right, and you know this for a fact do you how much they earn, more slavering from you

So your happy that we are ready for the season then...given the highest budget ever stated by the board?

[mcfly]

I wonder what people would say if the following came to pass (not too unbelievable) - Kamberi picks up a knock before Thursday and is out for both ties. McGregor and Hanlon pick up knocks and are out. So, we go into the games with a garbage defence and Shaw upfront on his own...

I’m not panicking btw but the above scenario isn’t too far fetched and clearly points out how short we are at the moment.

You sound as though you are panicking.

Do you really think our board are sitting doing nothing?

Calm down - have a drink and chill.

[Allant1981]

So your happy that we are ready for the season then...given the highest budget ever stated by the board?

you clearly dont have a clue what was said, maybe you need someone to explain it? and seeing as we have played 2 won 2 id say we are doing ok, would i like to see more come in of course i would and im sure it will happen

[Sioux]

still not sure why the club don’t have a list they can quickly work down - getting a “yes” or a “no” to.

Probably because they're not quite as clever as you.

[mcfly]

Quality players become available nearer the end of the window.

Would you rather we just went out and signed dross like our gorgie neighbours?
Let’s trust the manager and the board.

They haven’t let us down so far as we’ve got in our main targets.

Be patient - the signings will come

[madhatter]

You sound as though you are panicking.

Do you really think our board are sitting doing nothing?

Calm down - have a drink and chill.

No, I never said that. I’ve never stated they were doing nothing...

Don’t really panic about football tbh, even about a football team I support, it’s not as if the club would panic about me...I’m just pointing things out...

Bedwetters are only pointed out when everything is good, typically by those that are perceived as Happy clappers. If things go bad then the bedwetters are proven correct and some happy clappers are converted and the remaining mocked for their perceived ignorance. If things go good the bedwetters are mocked for their negativity. Why does it always have to come down to this simple model? Why can’t we just share different opinions...

[madhatter]

Probably because they're not quite as clever as you.

Thanks for the compliment, I’m sure it is meant in an underhand way though but I’ll take it. :aok:

[Captain Trips]

So your happy that we are ready for the season then...given the highest budget ever stated by the board?

Just because our season started a lot earlier does not make every target available just to suit us.

There maybe and likely is a lot going on behind the scenes and perhaps it is to secure exactly who NL wants.

[basehibby]

Don't panic Mr Mannering!

Seriously - we are stiĺl short on numbers for the season ahead -no doubt about that.

But there's still over a month of the transfer window to go and an awful lot can and will happen in that time. Amongst all that will be the fate of John McGinn - which will in turn have a major bearing on the budget available to Lennon.

Ideally of course we would have a full squad of the best available talent ready to go at the start of pre-season training. But reality is that - record budget or not - Hibs still have to guard every penny jealously to get the best value compared to our rivals.

That often means having to wait to the bitter end of the window until your targets - or the cash you need to tempt them - become available. That's what I reckon we are seeing now.

Levein over at the PBS has evidently taken the quick fix route this season of emptying the Tynecastle piggy-cow to deliver a coach load of journeyman (so as to have them in place in time to get emptied from the LC). Lennon is evidently playing his cards closer to his chest in the hope of puting together a better hand in the poker game of the transfer window.

Thankfully we have a decent starting eleven to give us a fighting chance of progressing to the Euro Group stages. Whether we do get there or dont we'll need a much stronger squad than now - and hopefully stronger than last seasons - just to stand still, never mind progress - and every minute of this window will probably be utilised in pursuit of that aim.

[Lago]

:top marks
We needed more than one forward. We were short in that department last season - McLaren, Kamberi and Shaw has become Kamberi and Shaw...so weakened.

We’ve lost arguably our best player in McGeouch and have signed another midfielder that is not even close to being the same type of player. We don’t have a single player I’d trust to do what McGeouch did. Dylan could keep the ball when surrounded by players and still pick the correct pass. We’ve also lost Barker. So 2 out, 1 in. So as it stands we are weaker than last season.

Keeper, we got one on loan as it seems we have no confidence in Laidlaw, was he a mistake? Don’t think a keeper was planned anyway, that was a reaction to Marciano’s injury. Seeing as it is an ex-Lennon player I also think this one was rushed and didn’t go through the normal scouting and recruitment process. He isn’t as good as Marciano so we are weaker for the moment.

Defence? Well we’ve lost Rherras so you could argue we are stronger but at the moment our senior players would need to play every single match (ignoring Whittaker who should be a backup and Porteous who isn’t quite ready to play every match). Let’s be honest we’re in the same weakened position as last season, relying on Efe, McGregor and Hanlon. In truth, when McGregor is out and Hanlon and Efe play as a 2, we look weak. Think that is big reason for 3 at the back, Darren can’t run about a lot but is a beast.

I can understand people saying “don’t panic” but I cannot understand the whole “we’ve made signings for who was required” argument. I’ll give an example against that, Stevenson injured who plays LB? Kamberi injured and we go 1 up top in Shaw? McGregor and Hanlon both get injured and we play that awful back 3 again? We are very short in numbers, we have a solid enough starting line up when fit but after that we have nothing in reserve. Hoping we get numbers shortly, still not sure why the club don’t have a list they can quickly work down - getting a “yes” or a “no” to.

[The Leith Dutch]

Fairly confident of going through against the Greeks.

All depends on the draw as to whether we get to the playoff round but I’d hope this the club’s top priority.

Qualifying for the group stages would have a huge impact on us.

I hope you're right but they're a decent outfit with good experience in Europe.
I reckon this will be a real test.

Our first XI is decent enough right now but little depth.
I'd be impressed if we get through and very impressed if we did it without drama.

[The Leith Dutch]

You sound as though you are panicking.

Do you really think our board are sitting doing nothing?

Calm down - have a drink and chill.

I don't think he does sound like he's paniciking - pretty reasoned posts pointing out the concerns.

Think it's the kind of post we need more of in that he's actually backing up his worries.
There's room for different opinions but they should be backed up and not "Everything's fine" or "We're doomed".

The panic posts are the ones that think we need 10 new players because we shipped 4 goals with a makeshift defense.

[southern hibby]

2 points I’d like to make.

Brogdan was very quiet on Thursday I’d expect him to be a lot more vocal and at least let the defence know it’s his ball etc.

As for folk saying that was a makeshift defence, I thoroughly agree it was BUT if we lose Paul or Daz to an injury, suspension etc these are the defenders we will replace them with.

GGTTH

[blackpoolhibs]

2 points I’d like to make.

Brogdan was very quiet on Thursday I’d expect him to be a lot more vocal and at least let the defence know it’s his ball etc.

As for folk saying that was a makeshift defence, I thoroughly agree it was BUT if we lose Paul or Daz to an injury, suspension etc these are the defenders we will replace them with.

GGTTH

What if Lennon signs another defender?

We will sign other players further forward, who will play instead of a few of those who started on Thursday.

We will be stronger further up the park, that will help the defence should we not sign a defender and we go with Porteous should either of those you mention be injured.

The team we will have out come the end of the window, will bare no resemblance to the one you saw on Thursday.

[The Leith Dutch]

2 points I’d like to make.

Brogdan was very quiet on Thursday I’d expect him to be a lot more vocal and at least let the defence know it’s his ball etc.

As for folk saying that was a makeshift defence, I thoroughly agree it was BUT if we lose Paul or Daz to an injury, suspension etc these are the defenders we will replace them with.

GGTTH

I think the problem with that defence was twofold - we were without Paul *and* Daz and we went three at the back.

We have four actual Centre backs and I'm comfortable with Porteous as back up stepping in should any one of Hanlon, McGregor or Ambrose be out.
I'd also be comfortable with going two at the back though more so if Efe, much as I love him, was the one out. Not a reflection on his skills and more that the no-nonsense approach of McGregor and to a lesser extent Hanlon makes it work better.

There's also squad size to consider. Frankly, if we're missing two of our first choice Centre backs then our squad size *will* mean putting out a team that nobody is delighted with (e.g. a back four with Hanlon and Porteous in the middle and Waugh on the bench). We're doing well but not to the extent that we can have 5 or 6 quality Centre backs on the books ;)

[southern hibby]

Gents, I’m not hinting at what we can or will do or sign. I’m saying what we have in our locker at this precise moment.

Our defence with the defenders we have at our disposal have leaked 3 against Killie, 5 against The Rangers 5 against part timers ( over 2 legs) 2 against Blackburn ( not that that was a competitive game ).

Let’s take it one stage further with those defenders we had how many goals in the first half of the season did we concede at the back post? Was it addressed? ( eventually yes ). Doesn’t matter who we have in defence it’s not as good as we seem to think it is. We have good individual players but collectively playing together sometimes I think we should do better than we do.

We have goals in our team that’s a fact but we concede silly goals too.

GGTTH

[makaveli1875]

Gents, I’m not hinting at what we can or will do or sign. I’m saying what we have in our locker at this precise moment.

Our defence with the defenders we have at our disposal have leaked 3 against Killie, 5 against The Rangers 5 against part timers ( over 2 legs) 2 against Blackburn ( not that that was a competitive game ).

Let’s take it one stage further with those defenders we had how many goals in the first half of the season did we concede at the back post? Was it addressed? ( eventually yes ). Doesn’t matter who we have in defence it’s not as good as we seem to think it is. We have good individual players but collectively playing together sometimes I think we should do better than we do.

We have goals in our team that’s a fact but we concede silly goals too.

GGTTH

only 3 teams conceded less goals than us last season , Celtic , Aberdeen and Hearts . The defence is 1 of the most effective in the league .

[B.H.F.C]

Gents, I’m not hinting at what we can or will do or sign. I’m saying what we have in our locker at this precise moment.

Our defence with the defenders we have at our disposal have leaked 3 against Killie, 5 against The Rangers 5 against part timers ( over 2 legs) 2 against Blackburn ( not that that was a competitive game ).

Let’s take it one stage further with those defenders we had how many goals in the first half of the season did we concede at the back post? Was it addressed? ( eventually yes ). Doesn’t matter who we have in defence it’s not as good as we seem to think it is. We have good individual players but collectively playing together sometimes I think we should do better than we do.

We have goals in our team that’s a fact but we concede silly goals too.

GGTTH

When you look at those games in isolation the defence does look
In need of work.

However, if you look at it over last season as a whole, we were strong defensively.

I don’t think the games you mention are a fair representation of their ability. Those games at the end of the season we had opened up and were chasing games and goals to try and finiish second. The game the other night was down to a bad attitude IMO and I’d be surprised to see that happen again. For all that it was a ‘makeshift’ defence, it was two guys with multiple international caps and someone seen as a great prospect. It’s only a couple of months ago that Whittaker and Ambrose were two thirds of the back three when we beat Celtic.

I think our problems lie further up the park and that is what we need to address. And we need to do it soon. Probably going to be too late for this round of Europe but the league season is fast approaching. We’ve got a decent start on paper and I don’t want us to drop silly points because we’re short.

[jacomo]

only 3 teams conceded less goals than us last season , Celtic , Aberdeen and Hearts . The defence is 1 of the most effective in the league .


Yes and that includes that mad September last season when we conceded a number of sloppy goals.

[The Leith Dutch]

Yes and that includes that mad September last season when we conceded a number of sloppy goals.

It's one of the reasons I'm against spending much money on improving the defense - I think we have good defenders with occasional lapses.
Getting good defenders who don't have occasional lapses is likely to be a very expensive business.

I think we can get better value from improvements to midfield and attack that shore up the defense in two ways:
- Exposing them to less attacks as the opposition are on the back foot
- Scoring more goals to render the occasional lapses irrelevant

I think one of the biggest plus points already in this season is Mallan's ability from distance and shooting from a set piece.
I'd bet that, come the end of the season, that alone is worth several points we'd otherwise have lost to sloppy goals conceded.

[AlbertK86]

only 3 teams conceded less goals than us last season , Celtic , Aberdeen and Hearts . The defence is 1 of the most effective in the league .

Spot on..... too many jumping on bandwagon of loosing goals in what was effectively a preseason friendly die to first leg score and opposition.

Yep we lost 5 v Sevco bit we were going totally hung ho which was our only option at that stage.

Keep the faith .... we still have one of the best defensive units in the country


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[Hfc_Since1875]

Sun running with the Aygepong story now - although they say he is a free agent

Lennon, meanwhile, has set his sights on Manchester City winger Thomas Agyepong as a fourth summer capture.

The Ghana international never played for City with his contract expiring at the end of last month.

But over the last three years the 21-year-old — who trained with Celtic in 2014 — has starred on loan for Dutch sides Twente and NAC Breda.

[J-C]

Gents, I’m not hinting at what we can or will do or sign. I’m saying what we have in our locker at this precise moment.

Our defence with the defenders we have at our disposal have leaked 3 against Killie, 5 against The Rangers 5 against part timers ( over 2 legs) 2 against Blackburn ( not that that was a competitive game ).

Let’s take it one stage further with those defenders we had how many goals in the first half of the season did we concede at the back post? Was it addressed? ( eventually yes ). Doesn’t matter who we have in defence it’s not as good as we seem to think it is. We have good individual players but collectively playing together sometimes I think we should do better than we do.

We have goals in our team that’s a fact but we concede silly goals too.

GGTTH

2 of those games we were chasing 2nd spot in the league so we were ultra attacking, particularly the Rangers game which saw us playing 3-2-5 at times. I wasn't happy with the goals against Runavik and hopefully that defence never plays again, Lennon stated afterwards he used these games as pre season type games to experiment with.

Lennon has gone with 3 at the back to play 2 up top but I think we look more solid with a back 4 playing 4-3-3, just my personal opinion.

[SRHibs]

Sun running with the Aygepong story now - although they say he is a free agent

Lennon, meanwhile, has set his sights on Manchester City winger Thomas Agyepong as a fourth summer capture.

The Ghana international never played for City with his contract expiring at the end of last month.

But over the last three years the 21-year-old — who trained with Celtic in 2014 — has starred on loan for Dutch sides Twente and NAC Breda.

Sounds like a permanent then? Doesn’t line up with Scouse’s info. Has his contract definitely expired?

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[Springbank]

see Celtic have got AEK Athens in the next round draw for the Champions League qualifiers if they beat Scandinavian opponents.

Glad then that "we've got McGinn" to help us past some different Scandinavians and Greeks, and not them.

Peter "Penny pinching embarassment" Lawwell can sweat, as far as I am concerned.

[GillyHibee]

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An extra 150k (possibly) added to our "Biggest Budget Yet". And still over a month left of the transfer window!

[Springbank]

Jamie Maclaren was one of the first to reply to Simon Murray's tweet btw, giving him a wee "good luck fella" type message.
Still the actions of a guy who has a lot of affection for Hibs

[Hibbyradge]

Jamie Maclaren was one of the first to reply to Simon Murray's tweet btw, giving him a wee "good luck fella" type message.
Still the actions of a guy who has a lot of affection for Hibs

Or maybe he's friends with Simon Murray.

[Springbank]

Or maybe he's friends with Simon Murray.

You may be right.

I'll take my chances though :)

If we had a player, who had been on loan elsewhere, then been recalled, (like Darmstadt have), then had our chairman announce that the player's future would depend on whether he wanted to be here...and then the player spent his online time engaging with the loan club, I would probably draw conclusions from that, that's all.

[GloryGlory]

You may be right.

I'll take my chances though :)

If we had a player, who had been on loan elsewhere, then been recalled, (like Darmstadt have), then had our chairman announce that the player's future would depend on whether he wanted to be here...and then the player spent his online time engaging with the loan club, I would probably draw conclusions from that, that's all.

I wonder how well they know each other, as Murray was away at Dundee when Maclaren was here. :dunno:

[Greenworld]

An extra 150k (possibly) added to our "Biggest Budget Yet". And still over a month left of the transfer window!And a wage

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[Souter96Mac]

Hopefully this might kick-start some business this week. We now definitely require a replacement forward in by Thursday.

[The Modfather]

An extra 150k (possibly) added to our "Biggest Budget Yet". And still over a month left of the transfer window!

Should still be plenty left in the budget but I’d Imagine the money for Murray will offset what we paid for Mallan

[GillyHibee]

Should still be plenty left in the budget but I’d Imagine the money for Murray will offset what we paid for Mallan

what was the fee for Mallan?

[007]

Jamie Maclaren was one of the first to reply to Simon Murray's tweet btw, giving him a wee "good luck fella" type message.
Still the actions of a guy who has a lot of affection for Hibs

"Good luck Simon, thanks for making way for me.... again."

[B.H.F.C]

Hopefully this might kick-start some business this week. We now definitely require a replacement forward in by Thursday.

I don’t think we’ll get one in for Thursday.

Have a feeling Boyle may be used up front.

[The Modfather]

what was the fee for Mallan?

Thought I had read it was £150k, but upon checking looks like I maybe read it on here as the first few articles I checked say undisclosed.

[danhibees1875]

I don’t think we’ll get one in for Thursday.

Have a feeling Boyle may be used up front.

Boyle is cracking as a RWB, but I think we got more out of him when he was further up the field - so I've no problem with him upfront and SDG at RB/RWB.

Although, we do still need to sign a striker.

[GillyHibee]

I don’t think we’ll get one in for Thursday.

Have a feeling Boyle may be used up front.

I was thinking the same. Use the height and build of Kamberi and his hold up play, with Boyle's pace to run onto anything played.

[Billy Whizz]

Boyle is cracking as a RWB, but I think we got more out of him when he was further up the field - so I've no problem with him upfront and SDG at RB/RWB.

Although, we do still need to sign a striker.

Interesting team selection for Lennon. If we play 352, that may omit gray, although Lennon says he was out best player in the Faroes, providing we play Boyle at right wing back

[danhibees1875]

Interesting team selection for Lennon. If we play 352, that may omit gray, although Lennon says he was out best player in the Faroes, providing we play Boyle at right wing back

As things stand, I'd stick with "3-5-2" and line up with Boyle up front.


Bog
Gray Ambrose McGregor Hanlon Stevenson
Mallan Slivka McGinn
Flo Boyle

[Billy Whizz]

As things stand, I'd stick with "3-5-2" and line up with Boyle up front.


Bog
Gray Ambrose McGregor Hanlon Stevenson
Mallan Slivka McGinn
Flo Boyle


If that’s the team, McGinn’s going to have to play a deep role

[007]

As things stand, I'd stick with "3-5-2" and line up with Boyle up front.


Bog
Gray Ambrose McGregor Hanlon Stevenson
Mallan Slivka McGinn
Flo Boyle


Good team, I can see Boyle doing a good job in the Jamie Maclaren role.

[Stuart93]

Good team, I can see Boyle doing a good job in the Jamie Maclaren role.

It's a pity his finishing isn't up to mac's standard, sometimes lacks composure in front of goal to play upfront but if needs must

[Smartie]

If that’s the team, McGinn’s going to have to play a deep role

McGinn and Slivka could take turns to sit a bit deeper. Both can drive forward if necessary, one needs to sit when the other one goes?

I like the look of it as a team.

[BILLYHIBS]

It's a pity his finishing isn't up to mac's standard, sometimes lacks composure in front of goal to play upfront but if needs must
Agree? Jamie Mac a totally different player to Boyle. Jamie an instinctive penalty box finisher always looking anticipating the half chance whereas Boyles main strength is beating opponents with his pace. It will be our first chance to see Bogdan in a real competitive game!

[BH Hibs]

SSN reporting third bid for McGinn in region of £2M. They also expect Hibs to reject it

[K-Zazu]

As things stand, I'd stick with "3-5-2" and line up with Boyle up front.


Bog
Gray Ambrose McGregor Hanlon Stevenson
Mallan Slivka McGinn
Flo Boyle


So basically 5 defenders. Gray and Stevenson as wing backs doesn’t work

[bingo70]

Agree? Jamie Mac a totally different player to Boyle. Jamie an instinctive penalty box finisher always looking anticipating the half chance whereas Boyles main strength is beating opponents with his pace. It will be our first chance to see Bogdan in a real competitive game!

I think Boyle's pace up front could cause them a lot of bother.

European sides like to play out from the back, if we play with Boyle up front and get him chasing down the defenders when they have the ball and then play a high pressing get them i think it could well rattle them, especially if they're not in the swing of their season yet.

[bingo70]

So basically 5 defenders. Gray and Stevenson as wing backs doesn’t work

Not got a problem with 5 defenders, it's important we don't concede.

It's important though if we play this way that our midfielders get up to support the forwards, with that midfield three i think they would. When we played that before we had a midfield of Mcgeouch, Bartley and McGinn, of those three only really SJM would get forward.

[Brooster]

So basically 5 defenders. Gray and Stevenson as wing backs doesn’t work

I agree. Gray at a push but not Stevenson. Need 1 or more wingers in that role.

[Smartie]

I thought both Gray and Stevenson played very well last Thursday.

[hibee1875]

I agree. Gray at a push but not Stevenson. Need 1 or more wingers in that role.

Stevenson played as a wingback virtually all of last season and was consistently good through out.

[BoomtownHibees]

I agree. Gray at a push but not Stevenson. Need 1 or more wingers in that role.

Not Stevenson? Like pretty much all of last season?

[danhibees1875]

So basically 5 defenders. Gray and Stevenson as wing backs doesn’t work


I agree. Gray at a push but not Stevenson. Need 1 or more wingers in that role.

Gray has scored a couple pre-season/Europe already - Stevenson too actually - as well as getting crosses in so I don't see an issue with those 2. I agree they are more defensive minded than Boyle/a winger - but they still seem to be doing the job going forward and I think we need to keep a 0 on their scoresheet in this game so the extra defensive cover would be good.

It's also a product of not having an experienced second striker, pushing Boyle up and using SDG seems the most logical solution.

[MWHIBBIES]

I think the problem with that defence was twofold - we were without Paul *and* Daz and we went three at the back.

We have four actual Centre backs and I'm comfortable with Porteous as back up stepping in should any one of Hanlon, McGregor or Ambrose be out.
I'd also be comfortable with going two at the back though more so if Efe, much as I love him, was the one out. Not a reflection on his skills and more that the no-nonsense approach of McGregor and to a lesser extent Hanlon makes it work better.

There's also squad size to consider. Frankly, if we're missing two of our first choice Centre backs then our squad size *will* mean putting out a team that nobody is delighted with (e.g. a back four with Hanlon and Porteous in the middle and Waugh on the bench). We're doing well but not to the extent that we can have 5 or 6 quality Centre backs on the books ;)

Efe is the best right back we have so would probably still play in a back 4.

[J-C]

Efe is the best right back we have so would probably still play in a back 4.

Really? I'll stick with Gray at RB ta.

[Michael]

Efe is the best right back we have so would probably still play in a back 4.

Efe is the best right back? He's okay for covering the odd game, but Gray is much better.

[theonlywayisup]

Sun running with the Aygepong story now - although they say he is a free agent

Lennon, meanwhile, has set his sights on Manchester City winger Thomas Agyepong as a fourth summer capture.

The Ghana international never played for City with his contract expiring at the end of last month.

But over the last three years the 21-year-old — who trained with Celtic in 2014 — has starred on loan for Dutch sides Twente and NAC Breda.

For those ITK, is this close to be concluded before Thursday's game?

[Hibs90]

Maybe Hibs want to keep McGinn until our run in Europe is over and all this is a publicity stunt by the clubs until then.

[GloryGlory]

For those ITK, is this close to be concluded before Thursday's game?

For those ITK, is ANYONE close to being concluded before Thursday's game? :greengrin

[Since90+2]

Is today the deadline for registering players for the Europa league game?

[My_Wife_Camille]

Really? I'll stick with Gray at RB ta.
Efe has been slated as a right back for a while but imo the only bad game he had there was away to Aberdeen where the whole team was rank. I think that's stuck in the mind of a few when he actually has been very decent at right back.

[Smartie]

Efe has been slated as a right back for a while but imo the only bad game he had there was away to Aberdeen where the whole team was rank. I think that's stuck in the mind of a few when he actually has been very decent at right back.

He has done well there, but it seems like it has been so long since he was last fully fit that we've forgotten how good a right-back David Gray is too.

They are 2 players who are better than about 95% of the players who have played there in my time watching Hibs.

[bingo70]

Efe has been slated as a right back for a while but imo the only bad game he had there was away to Aberdeen where the whole team was rank. I think that's stuck in the mind of a few when he actually has been very decent at right back.

Same applies to David Gray.

People are becoming a bit snobby about him but as a defensive right back he is perfectly adequate. I can’t think of him having a bad game and also offers a threat going forward.

If he avoids injuries I don’t see any reason for us to buy a right back.

[Speedway]

For those ITK, is ANYONE close to being concluded before Thursday's game? :greengrin

Are there any ITKs expected before Thursday?

[GloryGlory]

Are there any ITKs expected before Thursday?

:dunno:


:greengrin

[Iggy Pope]

Same applies to David Gray.

People are becoming a bit snobby about him but as a defensive right back he is perfectly adequate. I can’t think of him having a bad game and also offers a threat going forward.

If he avoids injuries I don’t see any reason for us to buy a right back.

Standing in the Faroes fog I had a similar sort of ("ssh-ssh****** shortof) discussion with a young fellah in front of me. Another season or two at least out of this man no bother. Warrior was the term created for David Gray. And stalwart. Our club needs these types.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Same applies to David Gray.

People are becoming a bit snobby about him but as a defensive right back he is perfectly adequate. I can’t think of him having a bad game and also offers a threat going forward.

If he avoids injuries I don’t see any reason for us to buy a right back.


He has done well there, but it seems like it has been so long since he was last fully fit that we've forgotten how good a right-back David Gray is too.

They are 2 players who are better than about 95% of the players who have played there in my time watching Hibs.
just to make sure, I agree with these point completely too. Was just sticking up for Efmond too

[Tarrahib]

just to make sure, I agree with these point completely too. Was just sticking up for Efmond too
Just give Efe his place in midfield. He will be fine.He is the most natural player we have that can play in midfield.

[sean04]

Was convinced we would have at least 1 player with the scarf above the head today

[Stuart93]

Just give Efe his place in midfield. He will be fine.He is the most natural player we have that can play in midfield.

I'd definitely give him a shot in DM

[YanYansen]

Was convinced we would have at least 1 player with the scarf above the head today

Why?

[sean04]

Why?

Cos we've had weeks to get ready for this 2nd round tie. Potentially 1 of the biggest games of the season and were still short for players. Also thought we wouldve had a striker in before Murray was away

[Tyler Durden]

So basically 5 defenders. Gray and Stevenson as wing backs doesn’t work

Worked well away to Brondby. Better to start a bit conservatively and see how it goes IMO.

It’s either that or if we keep Boyle wide, play Swanson off Kamberi. Shaw not quite ready for this game.

[Tarrahib]

Why?
If you have watched Efe playing since he signed for us he has played well for us at full back and also centre half. You can see when he goes on his ""wanders""he has the ability to lift the players and the fans.Give him a chance to see what he can do in midfield.He is maybe the player that can keep the fans up on their toes "a la John McGinn"

[bingo70]

Worked well away to Brondby. Better to start a bit conservatively and see how it goes IMO.

It’s either that or if we keep Boyle wide, play Swanson off Kamberi. Shaw not quite ready for this game.

Didn’t work that well against Brondby, we were 1 down after about 30 seconds 😉

[Captain Trips]

Worked well away to Brondby. Better to start a bit conservatively and see how it goes IMO.

It’s either that or if we keep Boyle wide, play Swanson off Kamberi. Shaw not quite ready for this game.

Why is he not ready to play against this team but was against a higher caliber side in Celtic? He is more than capable of putting in a performance.

[BoomtownHibees]

Didn’t work that well against Brondby, we were 1 down after about 30 seconds 😉

“Away to Brondby”

[bingo70]

“Away to Brondby”

Whoops, missed that.

There was me trying to be the smart arse as well.

[MWHIBBIES]

Really? I'll stick with Gray at RB ta.Stick with him? He has hardly played in a year and wasn't that great when he did play. Was poor for the 2nd half of our promotion season as well.


Efe is the best right back? He's okay for covering the odd game, but Gray is much better.Efe has played more for us at a higher level at always done well. Gray is a legend, no doubt about it, but Ambrose is a much better footballer IMO. I can't see Lennon not picking him right now.

[leither17]

Ambrose really doesn’t play rb it’s more of a right centre back

[MWHIBBIES]

Ambrose really doesn’t play rb it’s more of a right centre backIt changes around quite easily and he goes forward a lot down the right side, especially in the 2nd half of games.

[The_Horde]

Ambrose really doesn’t play rb it’s more of a right centre back

It's been like an inside full back role. I've loved watching it.

[Tyler Durden]

Why is he not ready to play against this team but was against a higher caliber side in Celtic? He is more than capable of putting in a performance.

He's not started a game against Celtic though has he?

I just think best to have him on the bench where he's definitely capable of making an impact. Starting might be a bit too much pressure IMO. We don't need to go gung ho

[Greenworld]

Ambrose really doesn’t play rb it’s more of a right centre backAre u joking the guy is fantastic in that position

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[ancient hibee]

If you have watched Efe playing since he signed for us he has played well for us at full back and also centre half. You can see when he goes on his ""wanders""he has the ability to lift the players and the fans.Give him a chance to see what he can do in midfield.He is maybe the player that can keep the fans up on their toes "a la John McGinn"
Far better if he moves into midfield unexpectedly as the game demands rather than being tied down as a midfielder.

[Hibi]

Far better if he moves into midfield unexpectedly as the game demands rather than being tied down as a midfielder.

Absolutely, in my opinion there is no chance efe is sharp enough to play middle of the park. Fine when he gets time at the back but entirely not having the game all ahead of you and taking the ball from your defence.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Anyone else slightly worried/concerned about the lack of signings or rumours? Squad is looking very thin ahead of Thursdays big game!!

[Callum_62]

Anyone else slightly worried/concerned about the lack of signings or rumours? Squad is looking very thin ahead of Thursdays big game!!

I think some folk have been worried from about a month ago

Think its just generally accepted now that “dont ask” is the name of the game

On the basis that the club must be doing everything they can


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[CapitalGreen]

Anyone else slightly worried/concerned about the lack of signings or rumours? Squad is looking very thin ahead of Thursdays big game!!

Must be tough to run a transfer news twitter account when there’s no transfer news.

[BoomtownHibees]

Anyone else slightly worried/concerned about the lack of signings or rumours? Squad is looking very thin ahead of Thursdays big game!!

You not got any?

[bingo70]

Anyone else slightly worried/concerned about the lack of signings or rumours? Squad is looking very thin ahead of Thursdays big game!!

That boy signing from Man City was a pretty big rumour doing the rounds yesterday, prior to that there was talk of a championship striker coming in, possibly Adam Le Fondre.

Lack of signings may end up proving to be a problem, time will tell, the lack of rumours means nothing.

[Ronniekirk]

Anyone else slightly worried/concerned about the lack of signings or rumours? Squad is looking very thin ahead of Thursdays big game!!

We've still got S J M that's a bonus Need everyone fit and no injuries on the night
Would ideally have liked the winger and McLaren but Mallon s free kicks are also a plus


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[Greenworld]

I think some folk have been worried from about a month ago

Think its just generally accepted now that “dont ask” is the name of the game

On the basis that the club must be doing everything they can


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkKeep asking unless there is a master plan it looks and feels like we're struggling to get guys in.
Like most other clubs though how do u compete with ghe ridiculous cash in England

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[jacomo]

I think some folk have been worried from about a month ago

Think its just generally accepted now that “dont ask” is the name of the game

On the basis that the club must be doing everything they can


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Pretty much.

Best wishes to Simon Murray by the way.

[Callum_62]

Keep asking unless there is a master plan it looks and feels like we're struggling to get guys in.
Like most other clubs though how do u compete with ghe ridiculous cash in England

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We cant

all the work that goes into getting folk in months in advance of the window opening - What does that involve? Just player identification?

Mind i don’t think we are the only club that haven’t recruited enough as yet


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[sean04]

Keep asking unless there is a master plan it looks and feels like we're struggling to get guys in.
Like most other clubs though how do u compete with ghe ridiculous cash in England

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I think we have missed out on a few of our top targets. I'm certain Lennon would be wanted business 90% done by now

[bingo70]

I think we have missed out on a few of our top targets. I'm certain Lennon would be wanted business 90% done by now

There’s still uncertainty over our budget.

I think we’ll see movement quite soon after Mcginn is sold.

[Souter96Mac]

Fairly lax about signings at the moment, will be worried if there's no one new by the start of the league campaign next week.

[Borderhibbie76]

We cant

all the work that goes into getting folk in months in advance of the window opening - What does that involve? Just player identification?

Mind i don’t think we are the only club that haven’t recruited enough as yet


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWe are pretty much all frustrated by the lack of incomings but it's exaggerated somewhat by being in the euro qualifiers I think...under normal circumstances it wouldn't be quite so bad. Add to that the will he won't he sagas involving Dylan and now SJM and it's been a frustrating summer so far...but we gotta trust that LD and Lennon will get it right by the time the window closes...they haven't let us down in the past. Plusses are we still have SJM and we've signed 2 crackers in Flo and Mallan and both on long term deals too

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[Borderhibbie76]

I think we have missed out on a few of our top targets. I'm certain Lennon would be wanted business 90% done by nowDon't agree top targets would have included Flo and Mallan and both are here on long term deals...

Jamie Mac is also a top target and still a possibility...as is Scotty Allan

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[B.H.F.C]

There’s still uncertainty over our budget.

I think we’ll see movement quite soon after Mcginn is sold.

What if he’s not sold though?

It’s obviously more than likely that he will be, but we should be seeing movement without needing that to happen. It might not happen for weeks yet.

[The_Horde]

Must be really hard running a transfer news page without any news..

[Nicho87]

Still find it strange all that hard work last season for our crack at Europe.

In the managers own words he's targeting the group stages.

Clearly still sitting at 3 players minimum worse of than end of season.

The worst thing is when we do get put out in Europe everyone will then panic and say lack of signings will now scupper us on the league also.

Still can't believe signing players takes as long as it does.

[Bostonhibby]

Must be really hard running a transfer news page without any news..If you set one up I'll make up a lot of half arsed stories[emoji106][emoji6]

This time next year we'll be millionaires.

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[bingo70]

What if he’s not sold though?

It’s obviously more than likely that he will be, but we should be seeing movement without needing that to happen. It might not happen for weeks yet.

I think we’ll have a deadline and if he’s not sold by then we’ll work on the premise he’s not being sold. If there is any late movement we’ll have the budget increases in January and next summer.

[sean04]

There’s still uncertainty over our budget.

I think we’ll see movement quite soon after Mcginn is sold.

What happens it be doesn't go? Scrap for free transfers. Statement of intent was we were going to have a real go at making group stages of the europa. This Greek mob are going to be a good side and were a few players short

[Borderhibbie76]

I think we’ll have a deadline and if he’s not sold by then we’ll work on the premise he’s not being sold. If there is any late movement we’ll have the budget increases in January and next summer.Imo we cannot sell him at the last minute without time to bring in a replacement...yes set a deadline but if he's not gone by then then we need to let him run down his contract...we can't play the 1st half of season without him nor an adequate replacement...absolutely not

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[TRC]

I wonder if Lennon has said we keep McGinn see how far we can get in Europe and that will offset the money lost in the transfer deal. If we lose the tie vs the Greeks then he can be sold, if we get to the next round the money starts to add up I would think. The trouble being for us is the English window closing earlier this year, leaving only non UK clubs and Celtic really with the required money to buy him.

[bingo70]

What happens it be doesn't go? Scrap for free transfers. Statement of intent was we were going to have a real go at making group stages of the europa. This Greek mob are going to be a good side and were a few players short

Do you think we should spend the money based on what we assume we will be bringing in or what we hope to bring in?

[marinello59]

What happens it be doesn't go? Scrap for free transfers. Statement of intent was we were going to have a real go at making group stages of the europa. This Greek mob are going to be a good side and were a few players short

So what would you do? Panic buy a few Vine style players? Most decent players will be keeping their options open as long as they can, the closing of the transfer window is s long way off Yet. Clubs will also be playing hardball with fees whilst there is no time pressure to sell. Patience is the name of the game here. The Greek side are unknown to most of us but they will be no further ahead in their preparation for the season proper than us.

[madhatter]

I’d be delighted and amazed if we reached our manager’s targets of group stages. This will be the last 2 times going into Europe under equipped, the Murray situation doesn’t make sense for me, as it stands if Kamberi gets injured on Thursday all we have is Shaw...

I’m guessing we got a good offer for Murray but what I can’t understand is how quick that deal materialised when we seem to take weeks and weeks to get 1 player.

I’m happy with Kamberi and Mallan, think they are great signings but over the piece I actually think we are weaker/comparatively the same as when we played Brondby. Surely if we want to grow as a club we need to start progressing in Europe...

League campaign starts soon as well, signings will have to start soon. Being entirely honest I see us getting a few duds and having to get loans in January. Stokes (last time around), Murray and Matulevicious being replaced by Kamberi and MacLaren as examples from last season.

Hope I’m wrong but we need to remember virtually every club is strengthening so assuming that virtually the same squad will achieve the same position would be presumptuous, especially without McGeouch.

[sean04]

So what would you do? Panic buy a few Vine style players? Most decent players will be keeping their options open as long as they can, the closing of the transfer window is s long way off Yet. Clubs will also be playing hardball with fees whilst there is no time pressure to sell. Patience is the name of the game here. The Greek side are unknown to most of us but they will be no further ahead in their preparation for the season proper than us.
We have 2 strikers, what happens if kamberi gets injured. We're going to Greece with Shaw up top on his own. We identify targets 6months in advance and these players are within a budget that we have without counting mcginn money

[CropleyWasGod]

We have 2 strikers, what happens if kamberi gets injured. We're going to Greece with Shaw up top on his own. We identify targets 6months in advance and these players are within a budget that we have without counting mcginn money

We will have, in essence, 2 lists of targets.

"List 1" will be based on SJM leaving. The other will be based on him staying. The players on those lists, and their agents and clubs, will know that.

Would you want us to go and buy a player on List 2 now, and then SJM leaves and we find that we could've got a better player from the other list?

It's a game that all clubs have to play at this time of year. We are in the fortunate position of being in a market that we haven't been in for a while, but that doesn't make the game any easier.

[marinello59]

We have 2 strikers, what happens if kamberi gets injured. We're going to Greece with Shaw up top on his own. We identify targets 6months in advance and these players are within a budget that we have without counting mcginn money
And why do you think he club hasn’t identified targets?

[sean04]

We will have, in essence, 2 lists of targets.

"List 1" will be based on SJM leaving. The other will be based on him staying. The players on those lists, and their agents and clubs, will know that.

Would you want us to go and buy a player on List 2 now, and then SJM leaves and we find that we could've got a better player from the other list?

It's a game that all clubs have to play at this time of year. We are in the fortunate position of being in a market that we haven't been in for a while, but that doesn't make the game any easier.

Just don't want us crashing out of Europe then in 2 weeks saying we would've beat them if we had the new signings in

[bingo70]

Just don't want us crashing out of Europe then in 2 weeks saying we would've beat them if we had the new signings in

You’ve not answered the question though?

What would you rather we did regarding signing targets using the 2 lists analogy?

You’re also not taking into account that they could be better in two weeks as well.

[CropleyWasGod]

Just don't want us crashing out of Europe then in 2 weeks saying we would've beat them if we had the new signings in

Which ones?

[mcfly]

The club will have their targets we as fans just have to hope we get them.

We all want to do well in Europe as this brings in a lot of money. The board will know the fans want signings but I’d rather we wait and get the right ones. Although it is frustrating.

[Ronniekirk]

I think we all expected Murray would leave in this window and ideally it would of coincided with a Striker coming in as soon as possible after his departure
I don't think we can be that desperate for the £150 grand , which leads me to believe we need the money to get another deal over the line
If that's not the case then we have taken a big gamble in going i into a tricky European tie with just two strikers should one get injured
But I could be wrong and if so would be interest to know the Clubs thinking on this one


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[sean04]

You’ve not answered the question though?

What would you rather we did regarding signing targets using the 2 lists analogy?

Who's list 1 kamberi mallan barker mcgeouch maclaren mulligan horgan ?

70% of them ain't happening

Why haven't got into list 2? We could be out of Europe next Thursday night because we didn't sorted the squad out. For me this is the biggest games of our season

[mcfly]

I think we all expected Murray would leave in this window and ideally it would of coincided with a Striker coming in as soon as possible after his departure
I don't think we can be that desperate for the £150 grand , which leads me to believe we need the money to get another deal over the line
If that's not the case then we have taken a big gamble in going i into a tricky European tie with just two strikers should one get injured
But I could be wrong and if so would be interest to know the Clubs thinking on this one


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I can’t understand how we would need £150k so urgently.

Easter Road is packed every game - the money must be flowing into the coffers.

We were told the budget was good. I hope the board come up with the goods. Let’s hope so

[500miles]

Who's list 1 kamberi mallan barker mcgeouch maclaren mulligan horgan ?

70% of them ain't happening

Why haven't got into list 2? We could be out of Europe next Thursday night because we didn't sorted the squad out. For me this is the biggest games of our season

You think Mulligan was on list 1? Just because we noted an interest, doesn't mean he was top of the list.

[sean04]

Don't agree top targets would have included Flo and Mallan and both are here on long term deals...

Jamie Mac is also a top target and still a possibility...as is Scotty Allan

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Scott Allan won't happen unless mcginn goes to celtic. If we had a list of left wingers, barker, horgan, young lad from man city. They 3 look like they won't happen. Barker to hull. Horgan staying at preston and young lad failed medical. We're onto 4th choice

[SteveHFC]

Thought they would be at least 1 or 2 players in by Thursday’s game but doesn’t look like it.

Bit poor tbh.

[sean04]

You think Mulligan was on list 1? Just because we noted an interest, doesn't mean he was top of the list.

We offered him a deal. If he isn't on the top list then we have missed out on list 1

[CropleyWasGod]

Scott Allan won't happen unless mcginn goes to celtic. If we had a list of left wingers, barker, horgan, young lad from man city. They 3 look like they won't happen. Barker to hull. Horgan staying at preston and young lad failed medical. We're onto 4th choice

Unless you've hacked George Craig's computer, you can't know who our targets are.

[B.H.F.C]

Thought they would be at least 1 or 2 players in by Thursday’s game but doesn’t look like it.

Bit poor tbh.

Yeah I thought we would have seen some movement ahead of Thursday, especially with Murray going out.

We might yet get something I suppose, will be disappointed if not.

[Hibbyradge]

I think we’ll have a deadline and if he’s not sold by then we’ll work on the premise he’s not being sold. If there is any late movement we’ll have the budget increases in January and next summer.

The deadline will be the end of August.

[sean04]

Unless you've hacked George Craig's computer, you can't know who our targets are.

I can only go on the itk guys and papers. Ovb we tried to get barker back for us was brilliant, ridiculous to even suggest we haven't Tried for him. Tried to get horgan but he wants to stay at preston. Other lad was having a medical on Friday which looks like we have had issues with

[theScientist]

I can’t understand how we would need £150k so urgently.

Easter Road is packed every game - the money must be flowing into the coffers.

We were told the budget was good. I hope the board come up with the goods. Let’s hope so

We don't, we had a player that didn't fit into our plans. We got offered 150k and bit their hand off, what is so difficult to understand?

[mcfly]

I think we’ll have a deadline and if he’s not sold by then we’ll work on the premise he’s not being sold. If there is any late movement we’ll have the budget increases in January and next summer.

Sorry but that doesn’t work for me. I’m not interested In a bigger budget in January (when u overpay for players anyway) or next summer.

This won’t be tolerated by fans or I suspect Neil Lennon

[CapitalGreen]

Surely folk aren’t arguing over who was on different hypothetical lists?

[mcfly]

We don't, we had a player that didn't fit into our plans. We got offered 150k and bit their hand off, what is so difficult to understand?

Read the post I was replying to before being sarcastic

[sean04]

Sorry but that doesn’t work for me. I’m not interested In a bigger budget in January (when u overpay for players anyway) or next summer.

This won’t be tolerated by fans or I suspect Neil Lennon

After his rant against hearts, I'm very surprised were we are regarding transfers. He can't be happy with what we have. We're weaker than last year

[mcfly]

After his rant against hearts, I'm very surprised were we are regarding transfers. He can't be happy with what we have. We're weaker than last year

Very good point I agree

[MagicSwirlingShip]

I'd definitely give him a shot in DM

Not for me.

Efe’s greatest strength is his reading of the game when he has it all in front of him. I love watching him bring it forward from the back, but this doesn’t automatically make him a strong candidate for DM.

A good DM can play on the half turn, has awareness in front and behind, and is confident under pressure. I think Efe would give the ball away far too much and not sure he has the engine to cover the yards a DM would require.

Just my 2p

[Borderhibbie76]

I can only go on the itk guys and papers. Ovb we tried to get barker back for us was brilliant, ridiculous to even suggest we haven't Tried for him. Tried to get horgan but he wants to stay at preston. Other lad was having a medical on Friday which looks like we have had issues withMate we are all frustrated but your seem to be guessing an awful lot here,

1 how do you know we haven't tried for Barker??

2 You also have no idea what happened with Horgan...none of us do.

3 who says the man city winger has failed a medical?? Record (exactly the Record) reported we had concerns over his past injuries...

It's frustrating but doesn't help making things up

Chill and try and have a bit of faith in Lennon and the board....it's what I keep telling myself when I get frustrated at lack of signings so far. In the very unlikely event of no further signings by end of window- then is the time to ask serious questions.

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[sean04]

Surely folk aren’t arguing over who was on different hypothetical lists?

The only point I'm trying to make is, getting to the group stage would take us up a level fiancially. Money from getting thru the qualifers, gate reciepts , tv money etc would be massive for us. Also the potential to bring some top European teams under the lights at Easter road is mouth watering. We're hoping we have enough to get there instead of being ready

[Eyrie]

After his rant against hearts, I'm very surprised were we are regarding transfers. He can't be happy with what we have. We're weaker than last year

That would depend on Lennon's targets. He may be happy that the club is working to bring in the quality that he wants instead of giving him cheaper, less talented players because they're available and desperate to find a club.

[sean04]

Mate we are all frustrated but your seem to be guessing an awful lot here,

1 how do you know we haven't tried for Barker??

2 You also have no idea what happened with Horgan...none of us do.

3 who says the man city winger has failed a medical?? Record (exactly the Record) reported we had concerns over his past injuries...

It's frustrating but doesn't help making things up

Chill and try and have a bit of faith in Lennon and the board....it's what I keep telling myself when I get frustrated at lack of signings so far. In the very unlikely event of no further signings by end of window- then is the time to ask serious questions.

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Why would we not try for barker? He's sensatonal. Would be a massive signing for us

[Lancs Harp]

I would imagine if you read a cross section of fans message boards across Britain most wouldnt be happy at this stage of pre season, many complaining of lack of activity etc.

[Heisenberg]

The only point I'm trying to make is, getting to the group stage would take us up a level fiancially. Money from getting thru the qualifers, gate reciepts , tv money etc would be massive for us. Also the potential to bring some top European teams under the lights at Easter road is mouth watering. We're hoping we have enough to get there instead of being ready

Even if we’d signed another four/five it would still be highly unlikely that we’d get to the group stage. Just because Lennon mentioned wanting to get there doesn’t mean it’s a realistic target unfortunately.

[ancient hibee]

The only point I'm trying to make is, getting to the group stage would take us up a level fiancially. Money from getting thru the qualifers, gate reciepts , tv money etc would be massive for us. Also the potential to bring some top European teams under the lights at Easter road is mouth watering. We're hoping we have enough to get there instead of being ready
I wonder if any of this will have occurred to the club.

[Borderhibbie76]

Why would we not try for barker? He's sensatonal. Would be a massive signing for usThink you misunderstood my post...am sure we have tried for Barker that was my point...

From what I've heard City want to loan him to a championship club so it's out of our hands as he's not our player

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[sean04]

I would imagine if you read a cross section of fans message boards across Britain most wouldnt be happy at this stage of pre season, many complaining of lack of activity etc.

Agreed but most teams don't have massive game on Thursday

[CapitalGreen]

The only point I'm trying to make is, getting to the group stage would take us up a level fiancially. Money from getting thru the qualifers, gate reciepts , tv money etc would be massive for us. Also the potential to bring some top European teams under the lights at Easter road is mouth watering. We're hoping we have enough to get there instead of being ready

At the same time the guys we’re bringing in should be with us for the next 3-4 years and hopefully bring in some money when they move on. We could rush signings now and bring in lesser quality with the hope of reaching the group stages this year but it will hurt us in the long run when we need to replace/pay off these guys as we compromised on quality to get players in quickly.

[theScientist]

Read the post I was replying to before being sarcastic

Erm, I did

[sean04]

Even if we’d signed another four/five it would still be highly unlikely that we’d get to the group stage. Just because Lennon mentioned wanting to get there doesn’t mean it’s a realistic target unfortunately.

There's a lot worst teams than us got there. Irish teams etc

[hfc rd]

Thought they would be at least 1 or 2 players in by Thursday’s game but doesn’t look like it.

Bit poor tbh.


I agree. Deadline is less than an hour away. Was hoping we’d have 1-2 players in already. However I’m sure you can register up to two new players before this Thursday 12am.

42.08 For the qualifying phase and the play-offs, a club may register a maximum of two new eligible players on List A after the above-mentioned deadlines, provided the quota of locally trained players is respected. Such registration must be completed by 24.00CET on the day before the relevant first-leg match and the club’s association must confirm in writing that the new player is eligible to play at domestic level at this time.

[CropleyWasGod]

Agreed but most teams don't have massive game on Thursday

I'll ask my (unanswered) question in a different way.

Suppose we spend all of our budget now, in time for Thursday's game. And then, next month, we sell SJM and we realise that we could have signed better players had we only waited a few weeks.

Irrespective of what happens on Thursday, do you think that would be a smart move?

[TelaStella]

Apologises if already posted but apparently Greg Docherty has been told he can go out on loan and isn’t in Gerrard’s plans this season. Just putting it out there


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[sean04]

I'll ask my (unanswered) question in a different way.

Suppose we spend all of our budget now, in time for Thursday's game. And then, next month, we sell SJM and we realise that we could have bought better players had we only waited a few weeks.

Irrespective of what happens on Thursday, do you think that would be a smart move?
Put it this way, we've earned in the region of 400k for qualifying and beating runivik. Beatings Greek team is worth another 220k. You get another 230k for winning 3rd round qualfier then 2.6million euros for being in the groups. 300k for win and 120k for a draw. You get 1.7 mill for finishing 4th in spl. I'm no saying sign a Rowan vine or Tudor jones but we should've been far more prepared for this tie

[mcfly]

Erm, I did

😳😳

[B.H.F.C]

Even if we’d signed another four/five it would still be highly unlikely that we’d get to the group stage. Just because Lennon mentioned wanting to get there doesn’t mean it’s a realistic target unfortunately.

Why’s it not a realistic target? The draw has been kind to us so far in comparison to what we could have got.

There have been much lesser teams than Hibs in the group stage in recent years and probably will be again this year.

[CropleyWasGod]

Put it this way, we've earned in the region of 400k for qualifying and beating runivik. Beatings Greek team is worth another 220k. You get another 230k for winning 3rd round qualfier then 2.6million euros for being in the groups. 300k for win and 120k for a draw. You get 1.7 mill for finishing 4th in spl. I'm no saying sign a Rowan vine or Tudor jones but we should've been far more prepared for this tie

Maybe somebody else can put my question a different way [emoji849]

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[HibsNutter]

Apologises if already posted but apparently Greg Docherty has been told he can go out on loan and isn’t in Gerrard’s plans this season. Just putting it out there


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They would be dying to do business with us :wink:

[madhatter]

I’m slightly confused why the argument against making signings quite quickly is that the longer a signing takes assures a higher quality of player. Juventus must be in for some astounding signings if that is the case!

Joking aside but we waited a very long time for Stokes and that wasn’t exactly a great signing, especially not considering how much he will have been getting paid. Time taken doesn’t equate to quality and success.

We also should not be waiting on McGinn situation, treat that as a bonus and put some of that money towards the training centre pitch. It’s highly doubtful we’d spend £1-2m on a player or break our wage structure to get new players so I don’t see much logic in waiting.

[J-C]

Log on to 3 more pages of bickering and bed wetting, this place just gets worse.

Players will come in as soon as we've negotiated the deals for them, these don't always happen in a straightforward manner, it's like this every transfer window, chill out folks the guys at Hibs behind the scenes are working to get things done.

[sean04]

I’m slightly confused why the argument against making signings quite quickly is that the longer a signing takes assures a higher quality of player. Juventus must be in for some astounding signings if that is the case!

Joking aside but we waited a very long time for Stokes and that wasn’t exactly a great signing, especially not considering how much he will have been getting paid. Time taken doesn’t equate to quality and success.

We also should not be waiting on McGinn situation, treat that as a bonus and put some of that money towards the training centre pitch. It’s highly doubtful we’d spend £1-2m on a player or break our wage structure to get new players so I don’t see much logic in waiting.
I get what the other guy is saying, don't want to be like hearts and sign anybody that shows up at there training ground but if we're identifying targets 6months in advance then we should be in a better position than we are. I wouldnt to bothered if we weren't in Europe and we were playing Stirling Albion on Thursday night. We're 4 games away from earning 3/4million

[ian cruise]

Log on to 3 more pages of bickering and bed wetting, this place just gets worse.

Players will come in as soon as we've negotiated the deals for them, these don't always happen in a straightforward manner, it's like this every transfer window, chill out folks the guys at Hibs behind the scenes are working to get things done.

I know, it's not like we've not made any signings. 1 we were desperate to get back (understandable), 1 was one of the hottest young talents when he moved and has shown his pedigree in his brief career so far and the other is an internationally capped keeper.

[danhibees1875]

Maybe somebody else can put my question a different way [emoji849]

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I think the answer to your question is that no one wants us to sign rubbish now for the sake of signing players. We want 1/2 of those quality players that we'd get post-mcginn now with the current Euro/season ticket money.

Although, the answer to that is Kamberi and Mallan.

[The Leith Dutch]

Put it this way, we've earned in the region of 400k for qualifying and beating runivik. Beatings Greek team is worth another 220k. You get another 230k for winning 3rd round qualfier then 2.6million euros for being in the groups. 300k for win and 120k for a draw. You get 1.7 mill for finishing 4th in spl. I'm no saying sign a Rowan vine or Tudor jones but we should've been far more prepared for this tie

Post you're responding to is not asking "Is there a lot of money to be made from the progressing to the group stages".

Look, either way you're rolling the dice:
Do you bring in a player who's not one of the ones you really want when that player may be available because we're short of bodies for a tilt at the group stages.
Or do you look at the players you have and think while it's not ideal it's a winnable game.

The side we have currently doesn't have much on the bench but is more than capable of beating Asteras Tripolis (and note I'm not saying we will beat them....just that the side is capable of it). As someone has pointed out - we played a better team (Celtic) with Shaw up front.

As for the bit in bold you need to bear in mind that what we have done squad wise to prepare for this is:
- Sign a backup keeper so we're not playing a youth keeper
- Get a deal for a talented attacking mid with goals in him over the line on a four year deal
- Signed a proper number 9 who seemingly attracted interest from big clubs
- Not sold John McGinn to Celtic (probably yet)

That's 4 members of the starting XI that they have prepared for business wise to some extent.

And no - that's not where the team would ideally be for playing this tie.....I get that.
But pretending that they've sat on their ass and done nothing and we're putting out a crap team just isn't remotely true.

[Thecat23]

This thread is now an utter car crash.

[Hibbyradge]

Put it this way, we've earned in the region of 400k for qualifying and beating runivik. Beatings Greek team is worth another 220k. You get another 230k for winning 3rd round qualfier then 2.6million euros for being in the groups. 300k for win and 120k for a draw. You get 1.7 mill for finishing 4th in spl. I'm no saying sign a Rowan vine or Tudor jones but we should've been far more prepared for this tie

I'm hoping we're properly prepared for the next 12 months so we can have a real good shot at getting to the group stages next year and the years after that.

If we have to wait a bit longer for the right players, we should wait.

What's the point of signing your lesser targets when your main ones are still possible? We'll have 16 or whatever people on the team sheet on Thursday whether we have new recruits or not.

Tripolis have a squad full of Argentinian players. They'll be hard to beat regardless of who we sign.

[JimBHibees]

I'm hoping we're properly prepared for the next 12 months so we can have a real good shot at getting to the group stages next year and the years after that.

If we have to wait a bit longer for the right players, we should wait.

What's the point of signing your lesser targets when your main ones are still possible? We'll have 16 or whatever people on the team sheet on Thursday whether we have new recruits or not.

Tripolis have a squad full of Argentinian players. They'll be hard to beat regardless of who we sign.

Spot on.

[YanYansen]

This thread is now an utter car crash.

Give us something, dude!! :greengrin

[Thecat23]

Give us something, dude!! :greengrin

Nothing really new mate. Just told winger is signing prob be tomorrow or today seen as it’s after midnight. Speaking to someone on sat that Barker has told one of the boys that this winger is the fastest player he’s seen!!

[southern hibby]

I’m chilled out and relaxed with who we have brought in and who we may bring in. One point I’d say is NL did say he wanted to reach the group stages, so work with what you have and bring in what you need. If McGinn goes we get money and that’s great but we cannot guarantee he will go this window.

We can wait and HOPE Celtic or another club matches our valuation or we don’t sell, either way we can’t guarantee how much extra we will have for
Players as we don’t know if our valuation will be matched or the board will except a lower bid rather than loose SJM for nothing.

GGTTH

[madhatter]

I'm hoping we're properly prepared for the next 12 months so we can have a real good shot at getting to the group stages next year and the years after that.

If we have to wait a bit longer for the right players, we should wait.

What's the point of signing your lesser targets when your main ones are still possible? We'll have 16 or whatever people on the team sheet on Thursday whether we have new recruits or not.

Tripolis have a squad full of Argentinian players. They'll be hard to beat regardless of who we sign.

Being honest, we can’t buy/sign now for 12 months or years after. Example being Kamberi, if he has a good season for us I expect him to leave next summer, the interest in a goal scorer will be much bigger than McGinn. So that leaves us looking again next year, I expect us to get good money for him but will it be another McGinn dilemma dragging on weeks and months, most likely... We aren’t a big enough club to plan 3-4 years in advance, players will want to leave if interest is there. If we aren’t ready for this years competition I don’t see why we’d be ready for next years, players will leave. We are a selling club.

I agree with the sentiment though, I’d prefer consistently qualifying for Europe than having one year of mediocrity in Europe.