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guthrie01
17-05-2018, 10:45 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2658081/rangers-andy-halliday-hibs-neil-lennon/ Not a chance!!! 😐

Funny, for a second I thought I read we where interested in signing Andy Halliday :hilarious

RossScott1991
17-05-2018, 10:49 PM
Need TheCat to shoot this one down asap

AgentDaleCooper
17-05-2018, 11:14 PM
tbh, if this is genuine and lennon sees a player in him, i trust him (NL) completely, regardless of who he (AH) supports and what a gimp he is.

Haymaker
17-05-2018, 11:31 PM
Need TheCat to shoot this one down asap

His silence worries me...

California-Hibs
18-05-2018, 12:37 AM
I'd be absolutely gutted if we signed Halliday.

Huge Rangers fan ✔
Not too keen about Hibs ✔
Brutal footballer ✔

Hopefully as others have said its just a silly summer rumor

cabbageandribs1875
18-05-2018, 02:15 AM
'the sun' running a story next week that anthony stokes is top of gerrards transfer wishlist, along with scott brown

SouthMoroccoStu
18-05-2018, 04:15 AM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2658081/rangers-andy-halliday-hibs-neil-lennon/ Not a chance!!! 😐

No, negative, nix, never, absolutely not, by no means, no way, not at all, not by any means

That bigoted wee git should be no where near our plans never mind Easter Road

Pedantic_Hibee
18-05-2018, 05:10 AM
I don't want people who think they've won cups in my team.

LustForLeith
18-05-2018, 05:23 AM
He just signed a new 2 year deal with St Johnstone


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That’s that then!!!

BlackSheep
18-05-2018, 06:04 AM
The Scottish Sun journos are really scraping the barrel now aren’t they!!! 😂

Heisenberg
18-05-2018, 06:17 AM
They must be taking the piss surely? Probably just his agent getting his name out there. No chance it happens.

flash
18-05-2018, 06:23 AM
Almost worth signing him just to see the meltdown on here.

Leith Green
18-05-2018, 06:27 AM
Probably his agent trying to get his name banded about

GloryGlory
18-05-2018, 06:29 AM
http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/topic/315973-andy-halliday/

Didn't read very far into that thread.

The sectarian abuse of Neil Lennon, which wouldn't be tolerated on the messageboards of decent clubs, seems to be par for the course there.

GloryGlory
18-05-2018, 06:31 AM
Probably his agent trying to get his name banded about

The good news is that story mentions clubs down south are interested. For once, the greater purchasing power in the lower leagues in England is very welcome!

:greengrin

JimBHibees
18-05-2018, 06:34 AM
Didn't read very far into that thread.

The sectarian abuse of Neil Lennon, which wouldn't be tolerated on the messageboards of decent clubs, seems to be par for the course there.

Should be a police matter. Stop the comments or shut the site simple as.

SHODAN
18-05-2018, 06:56 AM
Not really bothered about the fact he plays for Rangers - isn't Halliday just not that good?

He'd be OK for DM backup but that's it.

S4uzee
18-05-2018, 07:03 AM
Not really bothered about the fact he plays for Rangers - isn't Halliday just not that good?

He'd be OK for DM backup but that's it.

He’s chronically bad

.Sean.
18-05-2018, 07:12 AM
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the meltdown’s already started with some, I hope we sign him just for the reaction on here.

we are hibs
18-05-2018, 07:13 AM
Wonder if the media will try and spin this to say Halliday turned us down as another negative story about hibs when we weren't interested in the first place.

GreenNWhiteArmy
18-05-2018, 07:15 AM
Probably the sun trying to get us back for mocking their shocking article about europe yesterday 😂😂

Fuzzywuzzy
18-05-2018, 07:19 AM
Canny bell away on BBC gossip page. Shame, thought he was better back up than laidlaw

Heisenberg
18-05-2018, 07:20 AM
Canny bell away on BBC gossip page. Shame, thought he was better back up than laidlaw

Yeah decent back up. Can understand him wanting to go and try to get a game somewhere though.

Callum_62
18-05-2018, 07:33 AM
Putting aside the songs and the cup final “i got this”

Is halliday actually any good- wasnt he fairly well rated as a winger previously?


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BoomtownHibees
18-05-2018, 07:35 AM
Putting aside the songs and the cup final “i got this”

Is halliday actually any good- wasnt he fairly well rated as a winger previously?


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He’s piish

eastmainsmsh
18-05-2018, 07:37 AM
Ffs min if rather have Jason Holt lol

Velma Dinkley
18-05-2018, 07:37 AM
Hibs have offered £7 million-£11 million for Halliday but The Rangers have rejected the offer because they don't need the money.

bingo70
18-05-2018, 07:49 AM
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the meltdown’s already started with some, I hope we sign him just for the reaction on here.

I seem to remember a similar reaction from some about the prospect of signing Scott Allan 😜

Tug Wilson
18-05-2018, 07:49 AM
Often you will see a Shetland pony put in a field with a thoroughbred to keep it company.

Bit like Big Davey with Slivka.

Although Davey was more of a Clydesdale.

Maybe we want to sign the pony Halliday to keep the thoroughbred Allan company.

Halliday is definitely pony.

CRAZYHIBBY
18-05-2018, 07:52 AM
Say what you want about halliday but he scored a cracking goal in the final......but i agree hes pish and more suited to a club like hearts

stoneyburn hibs
18-05-2018, 08:01 AM
I seem to remember a similar reaction from some about the prospect of signing Scott Allan 😜

Boom ! 😁

My_Wife_Camille
18-05-2018, 08:23 AM
I seem to remember a similar reaction from some about the prospect of signing Scott Allan 😜
Ohya!

CRAZYHIBBY
18-05-2018, 08:41 AM
Im just waiting for the john mcginn to rangers with halliday as part of the deal story now

itslegaltender
18-05-2018, 08:45 AM
Andy Halliday....
was once a Hun,
now at Hibs
so thats Okay....

Smartie
18-05-2018, 08:48 AM
There would something quite funny about Andy Halliday winning the cup with us.

Blaster
18-05-2018, 08:54 AM
There would something quite funny about Andy Halliday winning the cup with us.

Be a good song

Andy Halliday
Andy Halliday
Thought he won the cup
Now he has....


Could work 👍

.Sean.
18-05-2018, 09:00 AM
I seem to remember a similar reaction from some about the prospect of signing Scott Allan 😜
Football fans are allowed to be fickle though :greengrin

BoomtownHibees
18-05-2018, 09:02 AM
I seem to remember a similar reaction from some about the prospect of signing Scott Allan 😜

None of them had seen Scott Allan play tho

southern hibby
18-05-2018, 09:05 AM
Andy Halliday
Andy Halliday
Thought he won the cup
But he ??????? It up
Andy Halliday

Andy Halliday
Andy Halliday
Did walking away
Cause it the Rangers way
Andy Halliday

Andy Halliday
Andy Halliday
Now he’s wearing the green
He’s gave up the queen
Andy Halliday

Andy Halliday
Andy Halliday
He never gave up
Now he’s won that cup
Andy Halliday


Disclaimer not sure if he’d be good bad or indifferent for us but if NL wants him then he’s got my backing.

GGTTH

Ronniekirk
18-05-2018, 09:24 AM
Halliday and Scott Allan flew out to a holiday resort together this morning Have always been good friends so maybe Lennon thinks they could be good playing together Something they have always wanted to do
Am not sure about this one althogh I can't see Marvin Bartley wanting to stay given how little game time he has had recently
If Lenny doesn't give Swanson an indication he is in his plans we could soon be down to Slivyka has our only Midfielder
Certainly a key Area of team to be rebuilt


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adhibs
18-05-2018, 09:25 AM
Has to be click bait from the sun. Much like yesterdays Europe article

WeeRussell
18-05-2018, 09:42 AM
I seem to remember a similar reaction from some about the prospect of signing Scott Allan 😜

I see what you did there :greengrin

timewilltell
18-05-2018, 10:27 AM
Andy Halliday:

I trust Neil Lennon's judgement......

If Neil thinks he can do a job for us, and add value, then that's fine for me.

Laced1875
18-05-2018, 10:37 AM
Started a new Hibs career on Fifa 18 and Brandon Barker is set to a 3 year contract... they know something we don’t ?

bingo70
18-05-2018, 10:38 AM
Football fans are allowed to be fickle though :greengrin

Never!

If we do sign him, and I don’t think we will, one crunching tackle, good game, good interview or even a good goal and all will be forgiven.

I don’t think people are appreciating how beneficial it is to have a big squad and not every signing will be a marquee signing to sell season tickets. He’d be coming from a club where the expectation is to win every week (even if it didn’t work out that way), to have more of that mentality in the squad would be a good thing, I don’t think he’d be coming in as a starter but as a squad player he’d have something to offer imo.

Michael
18-05-2018, 10:44 AM
Started a new Hibs career on Fifa 18 and Brandon Barker is set to a 3 year contract... they know something we don’t ?

More likely that we know something they don't...that he was on 1 season loan.

Callum_62
18-05-2018, 11:50 AM
Rangers sign murphy on a 3 year deal

SouthMoroccoStu
18-05-2018, 12:07 PM
Rangers sign murphy on a 3 year deal

The orcs at ibrox won't like that name very much!

S4uzee
18-05-2018, 12:20 PM
Signing Andy Halliday is hand back the season ticket stuff

Johnny_Leith
18-05-2018, 12:21 PM
Signing Andy Halliday is hand back the season ticket stuff

You would hand back your season ticket if hibs sign halliday?

Bobby's Cinema
18-05-2018, 12:22 PM
Yeah decent back up. Can understand him wanting to go and try to get a game somewhere though.

better than decent imo. don't remember us having a stronger number 2, even in Yogi's goalkeeping school...

KeithTheHibby
18-05-2018, 12:26 PM
Signing Andy Halliday is hand back the season ticket stuff

Have a word.

Thecat23
18-05-2018, 12:30 PM
Signing Andy Halliday is hand back the season ticket stuff

I wouldn’t go that far but he wouldn’t get any slack if he makes a mistake. Again though this isn’t going to happen.

Billychaotic182
18-05-2018, 12:43 PM
I’m sure we were linked with Halliday before he signed for rangers, also remember it was met with positive comments from people on here. Don’t get me wrong I would not want him to sign but it is funny how people’s opinions have changed.

TelaStella
18-05-2018, 12:45 PM
https://twitter.com/bcfc/status/997446576321781761?s=21

I see Andrew Shinnie has been released from Birmingham. Always thought he did okay with us and we could probably do a lot worse with replacing him for Dylan.


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Billy Whizz
18-05-2018, 12:50 PM
https://twitter.com/bcfc/status/997446576321781761?s=21

I see Andrew Shinnie has been released from Birmingham. Always thought he did okay with us and we could probably do a lot worse with replacing him for Dylan.


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Not for me

R'Albin
18-05-2018, 12:50 PM
https://twitter.com/bcfc/status/997446576321781761?s=21

I see Andrew Shinnie has been released from Birmingham. Always thought he did okay with us and we could probably do a lot worse with replacing him for Dylan.


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He was an attacking midfielder so would be replacing Allan rather than Dylan. He was decent for us but I think we should be looking for better at this stage. I'm not convinced he's any better than Swanson.

Michael
18-05-2018, 01:02 PM
https://twitter.com/bcfc/status/997446576321781761?s=21

I see Andrew Shinnie has been released from Birmingham. Always thought he did okay with us and we could probably do a lot worse with replacing him for Dylan.


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He was pretty disappointing when he joined us. I thought he'd stroll the championship.

The_Horde
18-05-2018, 01:03 PM
He was an attacking midfielder so would be replacing Allan rather than Dylan. He was decent for us but I think we should be looking for better at this stage. I'm not convinced he's any better than Swanson.

Swanson is a far better player. Halliday is too.

1van Sprou7e
18-05-2018, 01:09 PM
https://twitter.com/bcfc/status/997446576321781761?s=21

I see Andrew Shinnie has been released from Birmingham. Always thought he did okay with us and we could probably do a lot worse with replacing him for Dylan.



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Why are some people still under the illusion that Dylan was an attacking midfielder for us?

calumhibee1
18-05-2018, 01:10 PM
https://twitter.com/bcfc/status/997446576321781761?s=21

I see Andrew Shinnie has been released from Birmingham. Always thought he did okay with us and we could probably do a lot worse with replacing him for Dylan.


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Shinnie is nowhere near good enough IMO.

TelaStella
18-05-2018, 01:13 PM
Why are some people still under the illusion that Dylan was an attacking midfielder for us?

I’m under no illusions of that sort? A new season may bring a new shape and new requirements in the team. Just putting it out there.


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J-C
18-05-2018, 01:17 PM
If Halliday wasn't a Rangers player, most folk on here would not be too unhappy if he came, he's a decent player with a very good left peg. You also have to take into account that when you play for Rangers, you have to have the Rangers mentality or the fans just won't take to you, by all accounts he's a decent enough lad, are we actually interested? This is the big question, if Lennon feels he can do a job for us then I'll back him, he's still only 26.

timewilltell
18-05-2018, 01:18 PM
Signing Andy Halliday is hand back the season ticket stuff

If he does sign.... let’s see if your true to your word. I doubt it somehow..

jacomo
18-05-2018, 01:27 PM
If he does sign.... let’s see if your true to your word. I doubt it somehow..


Oh FFS it’s a figure of speech.

If he handed his season ticket back, he wouldn’t be able to BOO him would he?

:wink:

Jonnyboy
18-05-2018, 01:28 PM
Signing Andy Halliday is hand back the season ticket stuff

Given your username I’m guessing you’d have already handed your season ticket back some time ago

ian cruise
18-05-2018, 01:44 PM
https://twitter.com/bcfc/status/997446576321781761?s=21

I see Andrew Shinnie has been released from Birmingham. Always thought he did okay with us and we could probably do a lot worse with replacing him for Dylan.


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If he was replacing anyone it would be Barker, did he not play on the left? I actually thought Shinnie did well and if we play as well as we did last year I could see him being more effective but equally, I'm sure there are other good options out there.

JeMeSouviens
18-05-2018, 02:09 PM
Halliday is about on a par with Fyvie, no? :dunno::whistle::offski:

weecounty hibby
18-05-2018, 02:10 PM
Halliday is about on a par with Fyvie, no? :dunno::whistle::offski:

Only if he has a Scottish cup and FA cuo winners medal.

JeMeSouviens
18-05-2018, 02:13 PM
Only if he has a Scottish cup and FA cuo winners medal.

He has a LOSER's medal. :wink:

Since90+2
18-05-2018, 02:16 PM
If Halliday wasn't a Rangers player, most folk on here would not be too unhappy if he came, he's a decent player with a very good left peg. You also have to take into account that when you play for Rangers, you have to have the Rangers mentality or the fans just won't take to you, by all accounts he's a decent enough lad, are we actually interested? This is the big question, if Lennon feels he can do a job for us then I'll back him, he's still only 26.

I don't think folk would to be honest. If he played for Hamilton for instance and we were linked with him I reckon the response would be the same as he's simply not very good.

weecounty hibby
18-05-2018, 02:16 PM
He has a LOSER's medal. :wink:

Thought he'd won the cup? Did he **** it up?

JeMeSouviens
18-05-2018, 02:25 PM
Thought he'd won the cup? Did he **** it up?

Doubt it, he's totally got this. :wink:

MWHIBBIES
18-05-2018, 02:28 PM
He is nothing special and he is a smelly Hun. Slivka is better easily

Velma Dinkley
18-05-2018, 02:42 PM
Halliday always looks like he's chewing a wasp that tastes of poo.

BegbieHSC
18-05-2018, 02:50 PM
I’m a bit concerned that no one has definitively nipped this rumour in the bud...

Jones28
18-05-2018, 02:55 PM
He was an attacking midfielder so would be replacing Allan rather than Dylan. He was decent for us but I think we should be looking for better at this stage. I'm not convinced he's any better than Swanson.

He's a far inferior player to Swanson. I'd have Halliday before shinnie tbh

Dunbar Hibee
18-05-2018, 02:59 PM
He's a far inferior player to Swanson. I'd have Halliday before shinnie tbh

Halliday is simply an awful footballer.

Brightside
18-05-2018, 03:02 PM
https://twitter.com/bcfc/status/997446576321781761?s=21

I see Andrew Shinnie has been released from Birmingham. Always thought he did okay with us and we could probably do a lot worse with replacing him for Dylan.


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Flashes of brilliance then slipped over.... every game.

AgentDaleCooper
18-05-2018, 03:08 PM
To be fair, is he really anything luke as much of a tosser as lafferty? Lennon tried to sign him, and i would have given him my full backing whenever he wore a hibs top. Same goes for anyone, and even more so with lennon in charge - he gets us, and will make sure any new players does too.

Lago
18-05-2018, 03:56 PM
If Halliday wasn't a Rangers player, most folk on here would not be too unhappy if he came, he's a decent player with a very good left peg. You also have to take into account that when you play for Rangers, you have to have the Rangers mentality or the fans just won't take to you, by all accounts he's a decent enough lad, are we actually interested? This is the big question, if Lennon feels he can do a job for us then I'll back him, he's still only 26.
Well thought out post.

jax67
18-05-2018, 04:01 PM
He is nothing special and he is a smelly Hun. Slivka is better easily

Every midfielder we have on our books is better than Halliday.

Lewiehas2
18-05-2018, 04:01 PM
I’m a bit concerned that no one has definitively nipped this rumour in the bud...

Looks like TheCat has on the last page, he’s usually spot on

Jones28
18-05-2018, 04:02 PM
Halliday is simply an awful footballer.

I maybe should have been more explicit but I don't want either of them!

IanM
18-05-2018, 04:17 PM
Could’ve won the cup
Then he won the cup
Andy Halliday

Can see it

we are hibs
18-05-2018, 04:23 PM
Halliday is the most stereotypical looking Hun I've ever seen. Always walking about so angry and with that wee snarl on his face as if the world is against him.

S4uzee
18-05-2018, 04:26 PM
Oh FFS it’s a figure of speech.

If he handed his season ticket back, he wouldn’t be able to BOO him would he?

:wink:

Exactly. It’s a saying describing how bad the signing would be 😂

1van Sprou7e
18-05-2018, 04:33 PM
I’m a bit concerned that no one has definitively nipped this rumour in the bud...

Do you really want the club to start commenting on every pish rumour that the tabloids pump out?

timewilltell
18-05-2018, 04:48 PM
Thought he'd won the cup? Did he **** it up?


mmmmm.... I think we had a few of them before 2016 tbh....

Hermit Crab
18-05-2018, 04:48 PM
Signing Andy Halliday is hand back the season ticket stuff


Nice try. :fishin:

Haymaker
18-05-2018, 05:19 PM
:hyper

PatHead
18-05-2018, 05:35 PM
:hyper
Is Leigh signing?

Bostonhibby
18-05-2018, 05:45 PM
Is Leigh signing?He won't play in the same team as Halliday so we have a problem [emoji6]

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HoboHarry
18-05-2018, 06:03 PM
Have we released anyone yet? Seems like other clubs like Hamilton and Dundee were pretty quick off the mark on that front....

Golden Bear
18-05-2018, 06:04 PM
I'll take anybody who improves the team and will give 100% in a Hibs jersey.

Onceinawhile
18-05-2018, 06:06 PM
If Halliday wasn't a Rangers player, most folk on here would not be too unhappy if he came, he's a decent player with a very good left peg. You also have to take into account that when you play for Rangers, you have to have the Rangers mentality or the fans just won't take to you, by all accounts he's a decent enough lad, are we actually interested? This is the big question, if Lennon feels he can do a job for us then I'll back him, he's still only 26.

Andy halliday is the epitome of the rangers mentality and their fan base still rejected him.

Captain Trips
18-05-2018, 06:46 PM
He has a LOSER's medal. :wink:

Yes after they all hid away in changing rooms with big Jim Traynor trying to get their assault stories straight.

IGRIGI
18-05-2018, 06:48 PM
Andy can carpool with Kenny.

we are hibs
18-05-2018, 07:00 PM
Fulham want McGinn

Catch22
18-05-2018, 07:15 PM
Is Leigh signing?

yeah, for 150,000.

(I believe this is a compulsory summer post)

bingo70
18-05-2018, 07:18 PM
Fulham want McGinn

Is this being reported anywhere or just some inside knowledge you’ve got?

Sammy7nil
18-05-2018, 07:28 PM
Have we released anyone yet? Seems like other clubs like Hamilton and Dundee were pretty quick off the mark on that front....

kamberi,McLaren,Barker,McGeoch, all the other loanees?

crash
18-05-2018, 07:42 PM
kamberi,McLaren,Barker,McGeoch, all the other loanees?

we cant release 'loan players', they are contracted to other clubs. Of the players you have mentioned they were here on loan, except McGeoch whose contract
has expired. So in summary none of the players you have mentioned have been 'released'

Smartie
18-05-2018, 08:34 PM
Halliday and Scott Allan flew out to a holiday resort together this morning Have always been good friends so maybe Lennon thinks they could be good playing together Something they have always wanted to do
Am not sure about this one althogh I can't see Marvin Bartley wanting to stay given how little game time he has had recently
If Lenny doesn't give Swanson an indication he is in his plans we could soon be down to Slivyka has our only Midfielder
Certainly a key Area of team to be rebuilt


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I'd imagine Halliday and Allan will enjoy a chuckle at these threads over a spit roast together this evening.

Captain Trips
18-05-2018, 09:02 PM
I really hope we can get Barker in again. Another year with us will improve him further of course there maybe interest in him from other clubs perhaps on a permanent basis but if not be delighted to see him again.

heretoday
18-05-2018, 09:18 PM
Halliday and Allan on the beach kicking a ball around? Jumpers for goalposts?
Marvellous........

angus hibby
18-05-2018, 10:10 PM
Swanson is a far better player. Halliday is too.

I liked Shinnie. Watching the championship winning DVD Hibs brought out, surprised me how many assists Shinnie had that season. I’d prefer Allan to come back, but think Shinnie is better than Swanson.

The Sundance Kid
18-05-2018, 10:17 PM
I liked Shinnie. Watching the championship winning DVD Hibs brought out, surprised me how many assists Shinnie had that season. I’d prefer Allan to come back, but think Shinnie is better than Swanson.

Worth noting that Swanson had the 2nd most assists in the top flight of Scottish football last season while Shinnie only had the 2nd most assist in the Hibs team in the championship last season.

Swanson also scored around 10 more goals last season in the league about Shinnie!

Personally think it's pretty clear who the better player is

ancient hibee
18-05-2018, 10:30 PM
I’ve never seen a player fall over for no reason as often as Shinnie did and I don’t mean he was looking for fouls.

The_Horde
18-05-2018, 10:40 PM
I liked Shinnie. Watching the championship winning DVD Hibs brought out, surprised me how many assists Shinnie had that season. I’d prefer Allan to come back, but think Shinnie is better than Swanson.

Sorry, not having it. Shinnie was terrible.

Lucky derby goal aside.

Unseen work
18-05-2018, 10:43 PM
Personally feel Swanson has been unfortunate this season and is a very good player - which he showed against Celtic.

Shinnie wasn’t as good as I expected and wouldn’t be too keen on having him back.

Fyvie imo is a very good player who some just seem to have a real dislike for.

Halliday is just garbage. Nothing to do with him being a rangers player, he’s just poor and offers nothing.

Ozyhibby
19-05-2018, 02:12 AM
He was an attacking midfielder so would be replacing Allan rather than Dylan. He was decent for us but I think we should be looking for better at this stage. I'm not convinced he's any better than Swanson.

He’s not, he’s a lot worse than Swanson. Even with Danny’s limited game time he likely has more assists and goals than shimmied managed a division down.


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bigwheel
19-05-2018, 04:04 AM
He’s not, he’s a lot worse than Swanson. Even with Danny’s limited game time he likely has more assists and goals than shimmied managed a division down.


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Nope.....3 goals Shinnie and 1 for Swanson...don't have assist stats but figure they would be similar. 3x for Shinnie


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MWHIBBIES
19-05-2018, 05:56 AM
He’s not, he’s a lot worse than Swanson. Even with Danny’s limited game time he likely has more assists and goals than shimmied managed a division down.


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Shinnie has more of both, won't even be close. Certainly wasn't terrible.

J-C
19-05-2018, 06:15 AM
Shinnie had some nice touches but seemed slow and ponderous getting caught in possession too often, saying that he was very short of game time when he came heŕe but didn't really light up the place like he should've. Similar playing position to Allan and I know who I would choose.

The Leith Dutch
19-05-2018, 08:40 AM
https://twitter.com/bcfc/status/997446576321781761?s=21

I see Andrew Shinnie has been released from Birmingham. Always thought he did okay with us and we could probably do a lot worse with replacing him for Dylan.


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I liked Shinnie when he was here and thought he got it tight despite playing pretty well.
But it's a great barometer of how far we've come that I'd see a player like that now as a rarely used substitute.

hibbycraig
19-05-2018, 11:33 AM
BBC rwporting Cammy Bell been released.

we are hibs
19-05-2018, 11:46 AM
Aberdeen apparently offered to make
McGeouch their highest paid player.


I would be raging if he goes there. Would show a
real lack of ambition from Hibs if we can't match Aberdeen in wages. English leagues I get as they have significantly more money than us but im not having that Aberdeen have that much more to offer than us.

SRHibs
19-05-2018, 11:51 AM
Aberdeen apparently offered to make
McGeouch their highest paid player.


I would be raging if he goes there. Would show a
real lack of ambition from Hibs if we can't match Aberdeen in wages. English leagues I get as they have significantly more money than us but im not having that Aberdeen have that much more to offer than us.

Aberdeen also have signficantly more money than us.

we are hibs
19-05-2018, 11:56 AM
Aberdeen also have signficantly more money than us.


And? It's hardly going to be 10k+ is it? We should be able to match their offer at the very least. Otherwise what's the point in buying season tickets, contributing to HSL ect if we can't even compete with Aberdeen ffs

Smartie
19-05-2018, 12:12 PM
And? It's hardly going to be 10k+ is it? We should be able to match their offer at the very least. Otherwise what's the point in buying season tickets, contributing to HSL ect if we can't even compete with Aberdeen ffs

They have more money than us - that is a fact. We're paying the price for mistakes made years ago but we're closing the gap and making progress.

We don't close that gap spending money we don't have. Other clubs have tried that and it didn't end well.

A losing mentality would be to accept that just because we spend less than them we should finish behind them.

We need to spend our money wisely, like we've done recently, and we'll close the gap that currently exists.

Stevie Reid
19-05-2018, 12:19 PM
This thread, and the separate Dylan one, is becoming a reminder of how pish this place can be during the summer.

I remember the panic of many at our lack of signings last year, when we were less than a quarter of the way into the window (and had already signed players).

Now people having a go at the club over a transfer that may not even happen.

Stevie Reid
19-05-2018, 12:27 PM
Should also be noted that Aberdeen paid a decent fee for Stevie May when he was barely back from a serious injury, and in January they paid money to Hamilton for a player who is currently out with an ACL injury.

Clearly they don't have much of an aversion to risk, but it's a dangerous business, as May's awful season showed.

Greencore
19-05-2018, 12:55 PM
anyone know the wage differences between Aberdeen and hibs ?

MyJo
19-05-2018, 01:25 PM
And? It's hardly going to be 10k+ is it? We should be able to match their offer at the very least. Otherwise what's the point in buying season tickets, contributing to HSL ect if we can't even compete with Aberdeen ffs

Aberdeen have been finishing second for the last 4 years while we have been in the championship. We operated to a loss of £200k last season despite winning the league and reaching cup semi final etc. Even this season they have earned £500k more in prize money than us in finishing second compared to fourth.

They have been consistently reaching the latter stages of cups over the last 4 or 5 years.
They have had European football for the last 4 years.
They have good crowds in a similar sized stadium to us and A large, revenue generating, fanbase across the nort-east.

Aberdeen won't be offering £10k a week but they are in a far better position than us just now to offer players decent wages for the league we are in. Making Dylan their top earner will probably double what he was earning with us and be substantially more than our budget can accommodate just now.

The point of buying season tickets and HSL is to get us to the level that Aberdeen are operating at just now but to think we are anywhere near there after one good season back in the premier league is nonsense.

Maybe after 2 or 3 years like the one we have just had will we be in a position to compete with Aberdeen when they are throwing money at players like this suggests.

Lago
19-05-2018, 01:44 PM
Aberdeen have been finishing second for the last 4 years while we have been in the championship. We operated to a loss of £200k last season despite winning the league and reaching cup semi final etc. Even this season they have earned £500k more in prize money than us in finishing second compared to fourth.

They have been consistently reaching the latter stages of cups over the last 4 or 5 years.
They have had European football for the last 4 years.
They have good crowds in a similar sized stadium to us and A large, revenue generating, fanbase across the nort-east.

Aberdeen won't be offering £10k a week but they are in a far better position than us just now to offer players decent wages for the league we are in. Making Dylan their top earner will probably double what he was earning with us and be substantially more than our budget can accommodate just now.

The point of buying season tickets and HSL is to get us to the level that Aberdeen are operating at just now but to think we are anywhere near there after one good season back in the premier league is nonsense.

Maybe after 2 or 3 years like the one we have just had will we be in a position to compete with Aberdeen when they are throwing money at players like this suggests.
Excellent post.

Heisenberg
19-05-2018, 01:52 PM
Aberdeen have been finishing second for the last 4 years while we have been in the championship. We operated to a loss of £200k last season despite winning the league and reaching cup semi final etc. Even this season they have earned £500k more in prize money than us in finishing second compared to fourth.

They have been consistently reaching the latter stages of cups over the last 4 or 5 years.
They have had European football for the last 4 years.
They have good crowds in a similar sized stadium to us and A large, revenue generating, fanbase across the nort-east.

Aberdeen won't be offering £10k a week but they are in a far better position than us just now to offer players decent wages for the league we are in. Making Dylan their top earner will probably double what he was earning with us and be substantially more than our budget can accommodate just now.

The point of buying season tickets and HSL is to get us to the level that Aberdeen are operating at just now but to think we are anywhere near there after one good season back in the premier league is nonsense.

Maybe after 2 or 3 years like the one we have just had will we be in a position to compete with Aberdeen when they are throwing money at players like this suggests.

Spot on. Great post.

madhatter
19-05-2018, 01:54 PM
Aberdeen have been finishing second for the last 4 years while we have been in the championship. We operated to a loss of £200k last season despite winning the league and reaching cup semi final etc. Even this season they have earned £500k more in prize money than us in finishing second compared to fourth.

They have been consistently reaching the latter stages of cups over the last 4 or 5 years.
They have had European football for the last 4 years.
They have good crowds in a similar sized stadium to us and A large, revenue generating, fanbase across the nort-east.

Aberdeen won't be offering £10k a week but they are in a far better position than us just now to offer players decent wages for the league we are in. Making Dylan their top earner will probably double what he was earning with us and be substantially more than our budget can accommodate just now.

The point of buying season tickets and HSL is to get us to the level that Aberdeen are operating at just now but to think we are anywhere near there after one good season back in the premier league is nonsense.

Maybe after 2 or 3 years like the one we have just had will we be in a position to compete with Aberdeen when they are throwing money at players like this suggests.

Aberdeen have a pro-active millionaire. We don’t. We’ll never be able to compete financially as long as that remains. That isn’t to say we cannot compete but Hearts and Aberdeen have wealthy people putting money into the club. We don’t have that at the level they do. Hard to continually compete without greater investment from people with a load of money in the bank.

Stuart93
19-05-2018, 02:34 PM
If Dylan joins Aberdeen all he's fussed about is £££ as oppose to his career

Tug Wilson
19-05-2018, 02:51 PM
Both Hearts and Aberdeen have major infrastructure projects on the go. Much of any additional income will be diverted to fund these. Hibs have the infrastructure in place so can concentrate funds on improving the playing squad.

We are a selling club and may find ourselves selling McGinn, Ambrose and even Marciano this summer. However, any funds raised are likely to be spent on replacing players.

With the club on a sound footing, having a reputation for playing decent football and a well respected manager in place we are an attractive destination for ambitious and talented players.

Okay, our wages will be less than some clubs offer, but what we offer is high level exposure and an environment for improvement.

Oh and probably European football.

We will definitely have an interesting summer. Players will join and players will leave. We will have to be patient, but I am convinced that we will be pleasantly surprised come the start of the season.

erin go bragh
19-05-2018, 02:53 PM
If Dylan joins Aberdeen all he's fussed about is £££ as oppose to his career
Blackburn have offered Dylan 25k a week ( Apparently) Will be very surprised if he stays in Scotland.

madhatter
19-05-2018, 02:55 PM
Blackburn have offered Dylan 25k a week ( Apparently) Will be very surprised if he stays in Scotland.

25k a week? No chance...

brog
19-05-2018, 03:01 PM
Blackburn have offered Dylan 25k a week ( Apparently) Will be very surprised if he stays in Scotland.

Not a chance of that money at Blackburn.

cabbageandribs1875
19-05-2018, 03:02 PM
lol@ 25k/week

stop it

Lago
19-05-2018, 03:48 PM
Blackburn have offered Dylan 25k a week ( Apparently) Will be very surprised if he stays in Scotland.
Don't believe that

Springbank
19-05-2018, 03:49 PM
Leigh Griffiths left out of Scottish Cup Final.

Time To Come Home Fella (swap deal with mcginn)

LancsHibs
19-05-2018, 03:56 PM
Griffiths & Allan for McGinn?🤔

SouthMoroccoStu
19-05-2018, 04:17 PM
Griffiths & Allan for McGinn?🤔

And loan McGinn back to us for 2 years to continue his development

Very common practice in Italy

Borderhibbie76
19-05-2018, 05:42 PM
This thread, and the separate Dylan one, is becoming a reminder of how pish this place can be during the summer.

I remember the panic of many at our lack of signings last year, when we were less than a quarter of the way into the window (and had already signed players).

Now people having a go at the club over a transfer that may not even happen.It's a joke mate....some on here use any opportunity to get at the club...not even signed for Aberdeen and they are oan here spouting their nonsense

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Thecat23
19-05-2018, 05:45 PM
Blackburn have offered Dylan 25k a week ( Apparently) Will be very surprised if he stays in Scotland.

Absolutely no chance Blackburn have offered that. Try £12/15k tops. If they have offered anything.

BoltonHibee
19-05-2018, 05:48 PM
Blackburn have offered Dylan 25k a week ( Apparently) Will be very surprised if he stays in Scotland.

Utter Bollocks


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RossScott1991
19-05-2018, 05:54 PM
Boyle tweeting barker “fancy Europe mate ?”

Barker replied “👀”

mjhibby
19-05-2018, 06:04 PM
Aberdeen have a pro-active millionaire. We don’t. We’ll never be able to compete financially as long as that remains. That isn’t to say we cannot compete but Hearts and Aberdeen have wealthy people putting money into the club. We don’t have that at the level they do. Hard to continually compete without greater investment from people with a load of money in the bank.

I wish guys would stop comparing apples and pears. Yes Aberdeen made half a mill more in the league but our home average attendance was nearly 3,000 more than them which equates to £1.2m difference. We are both in Europe so no advantage there especially if we get past our first hurdle. We were in the championship last year so things will be a lot closer now. I certainly think it won't be a matter of money but personal choice if a player is choosing between the dons and us. As for hertz the standard of player they are signing suggests the pot is empty. Let's see what happens in the window. Yes sjm might go but I'm sure the fee will mean getting a very good replacement. Also the dons are losing their best two players for a total of £300,000. Too many people looking to knock the board when, given the tremendous season we have just had is off the mark. Indeed had stokes not been such a lad and actually put his head down I'm sure we would have been second. Lenny showed what he could do in the January window, let's just wait and see who comes in before we make rash statements. Europe I think will be I big plus in getting players here.

hibees 7062
19-05-2018, 06:29 PM
Boyle tweeting barker “fancy Europe mate ?”

Barker replied “👀”

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Shrekko
19-05-2018, 06:55 PM
Absolutely no chance Blackburn have offered that. Try £12/15k tops. If they have offered anything.

Average wage in the Championship is 16k a week apparently.

Agree it won’t be 25k but whatever they offer will knock Aberdeen out the water.

Ozyhibby
19-05-2018, 06:55 PM
I wish guys would stop comparing apples and pears. Yes Aberdeen made half a mill more in the league but our home average attendance was nearly 3,000 more than them which equates to £1.2m difference. We are both in Europe so no advantage there especially if we get past our first hurdle. We were in the championship last year so things will be a lot closer now. I certainly think it won't be a matter of money but personal choice if a player is choosing between the dons and us. As for hertz the standard of player they are signing suggests the pot is empty. Let's see what happens in the window. Yes sjm might go but I'm sure the fee will mean getting a very good replacement. Also the dons are losing their best two players for a total of £300,000. Too many people looking to knock the board when, given the tremendous season we have just had is off the mark. Indeed had stokes not been such a lad and actually put his head down I'm sure we would have been second. Lenny showed what he could do in the January window, let's just wait and see who comes in before we make rash statements. Europe I think will be I big plus in getting players here.

Mcginn might go but maybe not till after the Euro qualifiers.


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Unseen work
19-05-2018, 09:25 PM
Personally think people need to settle with their valuation of McGinn.

He only has a year left on his contract and unfortunately Scottish players seem to be sold on the cheap in comparison to other leagues.

We are in a poor position to negotiate with other teams.

The best option is a money + swap deal with Celtic. However I’m not convinced Celtic want him.

Greenfly
19-05-2018, 09:31 PM
Griffiths & Allan for McGinn?🤔


No chance whatsoever but I'd take it anyday.

Tyler Durden
19-05-2018, 11:11 PM
Dylan is not signing for Aberdeen. Can people just stop the panic about this and Aberdeen’s budget please?

They had a bigger budget than us this season. They beat us by 6 points was it? They are gonna lose as many crucial players as we are and our budget is gonna increase. Stop the whining and keep the faith please!

Folk goin on about this “millionaire” - settle down

Sammy7nil
19-05-2018, 11:44 PM
we cant release 'loan players', they are contracted to other clubs. Of the players you have mentioned they were here on loan, except McGeoch whose contract
has expired. So in summary none of the players you have mentioned have been 'released'

News flash we paid wages to all those players we no longer pay their wages

SanFranHibs
20-05-2018, 12:36 AM
Dylan is not signing for Aberdeen. Can people just stop the panic about this and Aberdeen’s budget please?

They had a bigger budget than us this season. They beat us by 6 points was it? They are gonna lose as many crucial players as we are and our budget is gonna increase. Stop the whining and keep the faith please!

Folk goin on about this “millionaire” - settle down

From a good source I heard this millionaire really did want to splash some cash, but after a couple of weeks in Aberdeen he suddenly thought better of it.

:dunno:

ian cruise
20-05-2018, 07:11 AM
And? It's hardly going to be 10k+ is it? We should be able to match their offer at the very least. Otherwise what's the point in buying season tickets, contributing to HSL ect if we can't even compete with Aberdeen ffs

Say its 6k a week, do we offer Dylan that. Presumably if we want John to sign an extention we offer him the same? Then you've got Flo who is already taking a wage cut to come to Hibs so he'd be looking for the same, Allan too. Immediately we've now 4 players on 6k.if we got McLaren he'll probably join these three.

Whoever we bring in to replace these players will want to be on parity with the people who have just moved on so it's not short term, you've set a precedent. Additionally I imagine Ambrose will want to have a chat about his wages too, as may Marciano, he is after all an internationally capped keeper.

So we've now got half our team on double of what our original top end wage would be? I think Dylan is a great player and nothing would make me happier to see him sign on with Hibs again, but I've no reason to believe we didn't offer him the best deal we could. If that's not enough for him best of luck elsewhere. That's just part of the modern game.

I actually believe it's the best move for him career wise to stay at Hibs just now as he's playing great football week in week out, no guarantees he won't find himself on the bench down south. Aberdeen is no different from Hibs but the risk is he doesn't settle or the training facilities don't suit his needs and he finds himself out the team again. Couple more years at Hibs to establish himself as a midfield General, he's already getting capped while playing for us, could see much better offers coming his way.

Col2
20-05-2018, 07:37 AM
There are different ways to structure deals. We don’t have to give him £6 a week. We could go for £3k pw and give him
Large signing on fee and/or percentage of transfer fee and not step in his way when bigger clubs come calling in future.

K-Zazu
20-05-2018, 08:05 AM
There are different ways to structure deals. We don’t have to give him £6 a week. We could go for £3k pw and give him
Large signing on fee and/or percentage of transfer fee and not step in his way when bigger clubs come calling in future.

Wish we could get away with giving him £6 Haha

Newcastlehibby
20-05-2018, 08:39 AM
I wish guys would stop comparing apples and pears. Yes Aberdeen made half a mill more in the league but our home average attendance was nearly 3,000 more than them which equates to £1.2m difference. We are both in Europe so no advantage there especially if we get past our first hurdle. We were in the championship last year so things will be a lot closer now. I certainly think it won't be a matter of money but personal choice if a player is choosing between the dons and us. As for hertz the standard of player they are signing suggests the pot is empty. Let's see what happens in the window. Yes sjm might go but I'm sure the fee will mean getting a very good replacement. Also the dons are losing their best two players for a total of £300,000. Too many people looking to knock the board when, given the tremendous season we have just had is off the mark. Indeed had stokes not been such a lad and actually put his head down I'm sure we would have been second. Lenny showed what he could do in the January window, let's just wait and see who comes in before we make rash statements. Europe I think will be I big plus in getting players here.

The extra ticket sales could generate as little as £75k extra if they are all child season tickets. £1.2m is the absolute maximum from adult season ticket sales and I doubt if it will be anywhere near that figure.

The Leith Dutch
20-05-2018, 08:45 AM
There are different ways to structure deals. We don’t have to give him £6 a week. We could go for £3k pw and give him
Large signing on fee and/or percentage of transfer fee and not step in his way when bigger clubs come calling in future.

One good thing about the club right now is I think they have that creative mindset around structuring deals so I'm pretty sure they've considered these kind of options but I agree we do need to think outside the box.

Two things though -

The percentage of transfer fee isn't a great option for DM if he goes back to being injured.

The signing on fee is actually worse for the club in many ways: it's a lump sum up front that doesn't spread the payment.

So you may get away with slightly less over the course of the deal but it's bad for the short term cash flow and, in addition you can't remove it from the wage bill by selling them midway through the "deal" because you've already paid them.

Add in to that others who may want the same arrangement to re-sign and it quickly spirals.

I think it's probably not a bad way to counter our initially low wage for a player coming in for the first time and I wouldn't rule it out but I reckon it's the kind of thing you need to be careful with.

keep the faith
20-05-2018, 08:52 AM
I am gutted that Dylan is going but if Aberdeen want to blow massive wages on someone with his injury record then good luck to them. And to Dylan.

We can't afford to do that at this point and not sure I would want us to when we need to be securing the likes of Allan and Flo. Let's not get worked up about what Aberdeen do and instead focus on the continuation of this incredible journey and rebirth of Hibernian.

danhibees1875
20-05-2018, 08:54 AM
Hibs will have a structure in place and will have offered DM what we can within that. If Aberdeen throw more money at him then that isn't a lack of ambition from Hibs.

blaikie
20-05-2018, 08:57 AM
Any other rumours who might be coming in?

We have history of looking to scottish players who have went down south and not really progressed, Lewis MacLeod at Brentford could be a decent shout, not really done anything of note since leaving Rangers.

Heisenberg
20-05-2018, 08:57 AM
From journo Alan Nixon...another club wanting McGinn

“Leeds. Keen on McGinn at Hibs. They want 5m. Seems a target they all want. #bitinpaper”

JimBHibees
20-05-2018, 09:04 AM
From journo Alan Nixon...another club wanting McGinn

“Leeds. Keen on McGinn at Hibs. They want 5m. Seems a target they all want. #bitinpaper”

Sounds good only problem would be if a deal already in place.

Dan Sarf
20-05-2018, 09:38 AM
Any other rumours who might be coming in?

We have history of looking to scottish players who have went down south and not really progressed, Lewis MacLeod at Brentford could be a decent shout, not really done anything of note since leaving Rangers.

He's beginning to get game time there after his injuries. And looking good. He won't feel any need to come back imho.

snooky
20-05-2018, 09:50 AM
Boyle tweeting barker “fancy Europe mate ?”

Barker replied “👀”

Can we take that as an "Aye"?

Wilson
20-05-2018, 10:02 AM
We are only in a poor position with McGinn if we need to sell. Poorer still if we need to sell and there is only one bidder.

If we can risk losing him for nothing or there is more than one bidder then it matters less that we only have him for another year.

Personally I'd prepare to keep him and let him move under freedom of contract rather than accept a derisory offer. His influence in our midfield will outweigh the benefit of a low fee.

Phil MaGlass
20-05-2018, 10:12 AM
Hopefully we sell McGinn for 5mil, then I can come back on here and say a big "TOLD YI SO" tae the doubters who thought we wouldnae get 5mil. :greengrin.
I will put it in storage just now....:agree:

The Leith Dutch
20-05-2018, 10:15 AM
We are only in a poor position with McGinn if we need to sell. Poorer still if we need to sell and there is only one bidder.

If we can risk losing him for nothing or there is more than one bidder then it matters less that we only have him for another year.

Personally I'd prepare to keep him and let him move under freedom of contract rather than accept a derisory offer. His influence in our midfield will outweigh the benefit of a low fee.

Very much where my thinking has been (and hopefully this is why the club are saying "nope. 5m").

The one significant reason not to do this is a potential sell on fee.
If McGinn goes to the right club down South and does well he could easily be getting sold next time for silly money.

That said - even a 10% sell on and it would have to be really silly money :)

The biggest reason to keep him for me is that if it's "only" Dylan we're replacing out of necessity and the rest of the transfer window is upgrading then I'd be unbelievably excited by the potential for next season.

snooky
20-05-2018, 10:19 AM
Very much where my thinking has been (and hopefully this is why the club are saying "nope. 5m").

The one significant reason not to do this is a potential sell on fee.
If McGinn goes to the right club down South and does well he could easily be getting sold next time for silly money.

That said - even a 10% sell on and it would have to be really silly money :)

The biggest reason to keep him for me is that if it's "only" Dylan we're replacing out of necessity and the rest of the transfer window is upgrading then I'd be unbelievably excited by the potential for next season.

:agree: Especially when we are only getting (an that's fair enough) a portion of the transfer fee.

Tha Cabbage Kid
20-05-2018, 11:02 AM
Two players I would like to see at hibs next year if even on loan would be Marcus Taverner and Lewis Wing from Middlesbrough. Marcus plays on the left wing and Lewis played attaching midfield. Both big prospects.

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NORTHERNHIBBY
20-05-2018, 01:10 PM
Can we take that as an "Aye"?

Two eyes and no nose.

snooky
20-05-2018, 01:13 PM
Two eyes and no nose.

:greengrin That sounds quite positive to me.

danhibees1875
20-05-2018, 01:17 PM
Two eyes and no nose.

:faf:

itslegaltender
20-05-2018, 05:36 PM
With Thistle down, would take Ryan Edwards from them if we could. Impressed me every time we played them this season.

Heisenberg
20-05-2018, 06:15 PM
With Thistle down, would take Ryan Edwards from them if we could. Impressed me every time we played them this season.

Wouldn’t say he’s ever impressed me massively. Not good enough for where we want to be in my opinion.

jacomo
20-05-2018, 07:57 PM
We are only in a poor position with McGinn if we need to sell. Poorer still if we need to sell and there is only one bidder.

If we can risk losing him for nothing or there is more than one bidder then it matters less that we only have him for another year.

Personally I'd prepare to keep him and let him move under freedom of contract rather than accept a derisory offer. His influence in our midfield will outweigh the benefit of a low fee.


Absolutely no need to sell him for sweeties.

It has to be a deal that makes sense for Hibs.

archiebald
20-05-2018, 08:09 PM
With Thistle down, would take Ryan Edwards from them if we could. Impressed me every time we played them this season.

You I do like the look of him

blaikie
20-05-2018, 08:09 PM
With Thistle down, would take Ryan Edwards from them if we could. Impressed me every time we played them this season.

He’s been okay when I’ve seen him, could be a decent squad player in an area we are short at the moment. I’d consider Blair Spittal he’s only 22 still has bags of potential and could prosper in a settled team.

Ozyhibby
20-05-2018, 08:35 PM
Personally think people need to settle with their valuation of McGinn.

He only has a year left on his contract and unfortunately Scottish players seem to be sold on the cheap in comparison to other leagues.

We are in a poor position to negotiate with other teams.

The best option is a money + swap deal with Celtic. However I’m not convinced Celtic want him.

How do you know that’s the best option?


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Humo
21-05-2018, 10:35 AM
Leeds reportedly interested in McGinn too. The more clubs that want him the better let the bidding war commence!

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Ronniekirk
21-05-2018, 10:53 AM
Leeds reportedly interested in McGinn too. The more clubs that want him the better let the bidding war commence!

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Mcginn is in the Driving seat He will only go to a Club that he thinks can make him a better player Doesn't matter how much they Bid
That's why The Rangers fans know he won't go to them no matter how much the P R machine churns out



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bingo70
21-05-2018, 11:08 AM
Leeds reportedly interested in McGinn too. The more clubs that want him the better let the bidding war commence!

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I’m not sure it ever works out like that.

Hibs will have a figure in mind, if a club meets that then the player will be sold, regardless if there are other clubs bidding or not. It’s not a live auction and if we were to start playing one clubs bid against another then they would soon pull out of the deal.

The person that really benefits from a bidding war is John Mcginn and I hope he does.

My old man
21-05-2018, 11:12 AM
Leeds reportedly interested in McGinn too. The more clubs that want him the better let the bidding war commence!

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Sit back
Get the popcorn ready
And enjoy the war
GGTTH

JimBHibees
21-05-2018, 11:27 AM
I’m not sure it ever works out like that.

Hibs will have a figure in mind, if a club meets that then the player will be sold, regardless if there are other clubs bidding or not. It’s not a live auction and if we were to start playing one clubs bid against another then they would soon pull out of the deal.

The person that really benefits from a bidding war is John Mcginn and I hope he does.

Only works if he is genuinely willing to consider offers and other clubs and does not have his mind made up where he wants to go.

WeeRussell
21-05-2018, 11:28 AM
If Dylan joins Aberdeen all he's fussed about is £££ as oppose to his career

£££s are a huge part of most people's careers. I don't see how it would be such a terrible move for him if he is making some extra money.

Hope he doesn't but wouldn't hold it against him if he did. That's football.

Stokesy's on fire
21-05-2018, 11:31 AM
£££s are a huge part of most people's careers. I don't see how it would be such a terrible move for him if he is making some extra money.

Hope he doesn't but wouldn't hold it against him if he did. That's football.

Leaving Hibs with the injury track record he has to join a club with no training facilities would not be ideal for his long term fitness and career. Plus their fans are boring

WeeRussell
21-05-2018, 12:12 PM
Leaving Hibs with the injury track record he has to join a club with no training facilities would not be ideal for his long term fitness and career. Plus their fans are boring

Aberdeen don't train?

Fans at my work are boring - I'd still move to a similar company if it was worth a fair bit of money to me.

I'm not saying he'll automatically jump at the chance, but wouldn't blame him for considering it. Remember he doesn't love hibs like me and you.

Greenworld
21-05-2018, 12:56 PM
But it's the boss who put the value on him it's buttons for a team down south let's be honest
Personally think people need to settle with their valuation of McGinn.

He only has a year left on his contract and unfortunately Scottish players seem to be sold on the cheap in comparison to other leagues.

We are in a poor position to negotiate with other teams.

The best option is a money + swap deal with Celtic. However I’m not convinced Celtic want him.

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Unseen work
21-05-2018, 01:10 PM
But it's the boss who put the value on him it's buttons for a team down south let's be honest

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Although teams down south do have a lot more money, they’re not going to spend extra money when they don’t need to.

If a club bid 2.5 million for Mcginn would we be able to justify rejecting that? I’m not so sure.

If a couple of clubs put in bids of that sort of figure then absolutely reject it and let them battle it out with the view to making more money.

2.5 million would be a massive sum of money for us to turn down for a player with a year left.

Stokesy's on fire
21-05-2018, 01:58 PM
Aberdeen don't train?

Fans at my work are boring - I'd still move to a similar company if it was worth a fair bit of money to me.

I'm not saying he'll automatically jump at the chance, but wouldn't blame him for considering it. Remember he doesn't love hibs like me and you.


I didn't say that but they do not have the facilities we have.

AugustaHibs
21-05-2018, 02:00 PM
Kamberi has signed.

Hermit Crab
21-05-2018, 02:05 PM
Kamberi has signed.


Where you seeing that mate?

vahibbie
21-05-2018, 02:13 PM
Kamberi has signed.

Tell us more.
Great news if accurate

H18 SFR
21-05-2018, 02:22 PM
With Thistle down, would take Ryan Edwards from them if we could. Impressed me every time we played them this season.

Horrendous defensively, simply can't track guy running off him.

Heisenberg
21-05-2018, 02:25 PM
Kamberi has signed.

He’s away in Dubai just now, so must’ve been done before he left (as TC was saying). Great news if it’s true.

LancsHibs
21-05-2018, 02:31 PM
Kamberi has signed.

🤩💪🍾🍾🏆🚀🎉❤️🇨🇭🇨🇭(if true!)🤞

AugustaHibs
21-05-2018, 02:34 PM
Unfortunately don't know anything else, but it does come from someone I trust and someone who has the means of finding this out.

007
21-05-2018, 05:18 PM
Unfortunately don't know anything else, but it does come from someone I trust and someone who has the means of finding this out.

Fingers crossed. One signs and the rest will follow. Next Scotty, then Maclaren and then Barker (loan).

mjhibby
21-05-2018, 06:33 PM
Very much where my thinking has been (and hopefully this is why the club are saying "nope. 5m").

The one significant reason not to do this is a potential sell on fee.
If McGinn goes to the right club down South and does well he could easily be getting sold next time for silly money.

That said - even a 10% sell on and it would have to be really silly money :)

The biggest reason to keep him for me is that if it's "only" Dylan we're replacing out of necessity and the rest of the transfer window is upgrading then I'd be unbelievably excited by the potential for next season.

I think people are getting too hung up on the sjm situation. As sjm says himself he's in no rush to leave and the deal must be right for all parties. He appreciates what hibs have done for him and I don't think he would mind staying for another season. Also lenny and the scouting system have shown they have a good network and the January window was the best I can remember and probably got us into Europe. Instead of worrying if sjm will leave I tend to think we are ready for the situation and can see two players coming in if he goes. Stevie mallan is one I believe Ryan gauld could be another if barker doesn't come back. Not replacements for mcginn but would certainly enhance the squad. I've a feeling if sjm goes hibs will go for a really top player by Scottish standards. If kamberi has signed, which I think will happen, then it will be the start of an exciting summer.

Borderhibbie76
21-05-2018, 09:45 PM
Unfortunately don't know anything else, but it does come from someone I trust and someone who has the means of finding this out.Sounds good to me and backs up what The Cat has previously said - thanks for sharing mate

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The Leith Dutch
21-05-2018, 10:37 PM
I think people are getting too hung up on the sjm situation. As sjm says himself he's in no rush to leave and the deal must be right for all parties. He appreciates what hibs have done for him and I don't think he would mind staying for another season. Also lenny and the scouting system have shown they have a good network and the January window was the best I can remember and probably got us into Europe. Instead of worrying if sjm will leave I tend to think we are ready for the situation and can see two players coming in if he goes. Stevie mallan is one I believe Ryan gauld could be another if barker doesn't come back. Not replacements for mcginn but would certainly enhance the squad. I've a feeling if sjm goes hibs will go for a really top player by Scottish standards. If kamberi has signed, which I think will happen, then it will be the start of an exciting summer.

Not worried as such and totally trusting club and manager to bring folk in. Was more reflecting on whether it's worth keeping him in certain scenarios :)

All good and no bed wetting ;)

Squealing pig
22-05-2018, 02:58 AM
Reading skertel away to rangers 2.5 mil

AgentDaleCooper
22-05-2018, 05:54 AM
Reading skertel away to rangers 2.5 mil

Three year deal apparently. Dounds like lots of money down the pan :aok:

bingo70
22-05-2018, 05:57 AM
Reading skertel away to rangers 2.5 mil

First person to utter the words.....”he’ll stroll this league....” should be facing a life sentence in the hibs.net jail IMO.

Thecat23
22-05-2018, 06:01 AM
First person to utter the words.....”he’ll stroll this league....” should be facing a life sentence in the hibs.net jail IMO.

You then 😁

Rumble de Thump
22-05-2018, 06:08 AM
If he turns out to be half the player Alves is then he'll be an eighth of the player Hanlon is. And that's no my opinion. That's fractions.

JimBHibees
22-05-2018, 06:31 AM
First person to utter the words.....”he’ll stroll this league....” should be facing a life sentence in the hibs.net jail IMO.

This seasons Bruno Alves. :greengrin

Weststandwanab
22-05-2018, 06:55 AM
Kamberi has signed.

Signed for who ?

Captain Trips
22-05-2018, 08:21 AM
Reading skertel away to rangers 2.5 mil

Excellent stuff.

neil7908
22-05-2018, 08:36 AM
Reading skertel away to rangers 2.5 mil

So that's nearly half the 'war chest' wasted already!

Springbank
22-05-2018, 08:40 AM
So that's nearly half the 'war chest' wasted already!

If you include wages that basically is the warchest

GreenOnions
22-05-2018, 08:58 AM
If he turns out to be half the player Alves is then he'll be an eighth of the player Hanlon is. And that's no my opinion. That's fractions.

So what proportion of Hanlon is Alves then? :nerd:

bingo70
22-05-2018, 09:01 AM
So that's nearly half the 'war chest' wasted already!

My prediction is that Rangers will continue to spend money all summer. People won’t know where the money is coming from but it’ll keep coming all the same.

Billy Whizz
22-05-2018, 09:03 AM
My prediction is that Rangers will continue to spend money all summer. People won’t know where the money is coming from but it’ll keep coming all the same.

It’s coming from season ticket sales, approx £16m due in

blackpoolhibs
22-05-2018, 09:05 AM
My prediction is that Rangers will continue to spend money all summer. People won’t know where the money is coming from but it’ll keep coming all the same.


:agree:

Wilson
22-05-2018, 09:09 AM
So what proportion of Hanlon is Alves then? :nerd:

A quarter of the player?

bingo70
22-05-2018, 09:14 AM
It’s coming from season ticket sales, approx £16m due in

My next prediction is an accountant type person that’s far smarter than me will be along shortly to say why they can’t use that as they’re already in debt for that or something.........

They’ll still keep spending anyway though imo

blackpoolhibs
22-05-2018, 09:25 AM
My next prediction is an accountant type person that’s far smarter than me will be along shortly to say why they can’t use that as they’re already in debt for that or something.........

They’ll still keep spending anyway though imo

Lets be honest here, Gerrard's not going there with just £5m to spend on players and wages.

I know he's not the sharpest pencil in the box, but even he wouldn't touch the job if he wasn't promised some chance of closing the gap.

Although whatever he does get, the smellies will probably double it.

bingo70
22-05-2018, 09:34 AM
Lets be honest here, Gerrard's not going there with just £5m to spend on players and wages.

I know he's not the sharpest pencil in the box, but even he wouldn't touch the job if he wasn't promised some chance of closing the gap.

Although whatever he does get, the smellies will probably double it.

Correct.

Budget wise they will continue to blow everyone else out the water, I just hope they make the mistake of assuming that anyone that has played down south will automatically be better than ‘what this pub league has to offer’ like so many from down south seem to assume. I don’t think appointing Gary McAllister as assistant was a smart move in that regard.

FWIW I think Skrtel will be a good signing for them.

CropleyWasGod
22-05-2018, 09:35 AM
My next prediction is an accountant type person that’s far smarter than me will be along shortly to say why they can’t use that as they’re already in debt for that or something.........

They’ll still keep spending anyway though imoThey have the cash, short-term.

However, the problem comes if they fail to make Progres in Europe. Then they do have issues with high overheads, low income and loans to be repaid.

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Not In The Know
22-05-2018, 09:52 AM
They are in the same Euro boat as us, so how much do you think they are hoping to gain from playing in the Europa League?

Its a bit odd they are gambling 6-10m to get to the league stages. This in itself is getting very tricky as the standard of most teams there is very high.

Big_Franck
22-05-2018, 09:58 AM
They have the cash, short-term.

However, the problem comes if they fail to make Progres in Europe. Then they do have issues with high overheads, low income and loans to be repaid.

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:greengrin

JohnM1875
22-05-2018, 10:05 AM
If it's true and they manage to sign Skrtel then I think it's a great signing.

Only 33 so not past it like Alves was when he signed last season. Played 21 games last season and Fenerbache are a decent team.

Obviously hope I'm completely wrong and he's a total failure! Just hope more than anything they really don't make the group stages of the Europa league.

bingo70
22-05-2018, 10:12 AM
If it's true and they manage to sign Skrtel then I think it's a great signing.

Only 33 so not past it like Alves was when he signed last season. Played 21 games last season and Fenerbache are a decent team.

Obviously hope I'm completely wrong and he's a total failure! Just hope more than anything they really don't make the group stages of the Europa league.

21 games in a season isn’t a lot.

Although I previously said I think he’d be a good signing, if I knew he’d only played that many games that would give me cause for concern if I were of a hun persuasion. As the years creep on he’s not likely to play more next season than he did the previous so if they are paying him a big wage that represents a huge risk imo.

Smartie
22-05-2018, 10:16 AM
They are in the same Euro boat as us, so how much do you think they are hoping to gain from playing in the Europa League?

Its a bit odd they are gambling 6-10m to get to the league stages. This in itself is getting very tricky as the standard of most teams there is very high.

It's not a business model that has made sense to me at any point.

You would imagine that at some point their investors will want a return, but until then they appear to be managing to scrape by.

GloryGlory
22-05-2018, 10:20 AM
A small plea - could we get this thread back to discussing matters Hibs, please? I'm not that bothered about reading what other teams are doing in the transfer market or how they are funding it, so could we have a separate thread for those who do want to read about it?

GGTTH! :greengrin

stoneyburn hibs
22-05-2018, 10:26 AM
Kamberi, has he signed/ going to sign ?

bingo70
22-05-2018, 10:40 AM
Kamberi, has he signed/ going to sign ?

No he’s not signed, well not officially otherwise we would have announced it.

Some people are saying he has signed it will sign but that’s up to you if you choose to believe those rumours.

CropleyWasGod
22-05-2018, 11:01 AM
No he’s not signed, well not officially otherwise we would have announced it.

Some people are saying he has signed it will sign but that’s up to you if you choose to believe those rumours.Can he sign just now? I.e. before the window is thrown open.

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Michael
22-05-2018, 11:11 AM
Can he sign just now? I.e. before the window is thrown open.

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Could be announced now, won't officially be a Hibs player until window opens.

Lago
22-05-2018, 11:50 AM
No he’s not signed, well not officially otherwise we would have announced it.

Some people are saying he has signed it will sign but that’s up to you if you choose to believe those rumours.
So from the certainly of yesterday to the uncertainty of today.

WeeRussell
22-05-2018, 11:51 AM
21 games in a season isn’t a lot.

Although I previously said I think he’d be a good signing, if I knew he’d only played that many games that would give me cause for concern if I were of a hun persuasion. As the years creep on he’s not likely to play more next season than he did the previous so if they are paying him a big wage that represents a huge risk imo.

21 games for Fernebache isn't bad. Skitter would be a decent enough signing if it happens I think. Hopefully it doesn't, or I am wrong :greengrin

WeeRussell
22-05-2018, 11:52 AM
So from the certainly of yesterday to the uncertainty of today.

Bingo has just started a rumour that he's no signed :grr:

snooky
22-05-2018, 12:35 PM
No he’s not signed, well not officially otherwise we would have announced it.

Some people are saying he has signed it will sign but that’s up to you if you choose to believe those rumours.

:agree: I choose to wait till the news comes from a proven reliable source.

HibbyAndy
22-05-2018, 12:58 PM
Could be announced now, won't officially be a Hibs player until window opens.

Well if he has signed i'd prefer it to be announced soon as to boost season ticket sales , Absolutely no logic at all not to announce it , But then there is every chance he hasn't signed

Brightside
22-05-2018, 01:25 PM
Well if he has signed i'd prefer it to be announced soon as to boost season ticket sales , Absolutely no logic at all not to announce it , But then there is every chance he hasn't signed

New shirt PR.

BlackSheep
22-05-2018, 01:45 PM
New shirt PR.

Speculation or ITK....? Do you know when the PR for the new kit is?

Billy Whizz
22-05-2018, 02:02 PM
Speculation or ITK....? Do you know when the PR for the new kit is?

Presume when the window is open for us?

eezyrider
22-05-2018, 02:09 PM
Well if he has signed i'd prefer it to be announced soon as to boost season ticket sales , Absolutely no logic at all not to announce it , But then there is every chance he hasn't signed

The transfer window doesn't open until 9th June so surely no announcement can be made before then.


EZ

MWHIBBIES
22-05-2018, 02:14 PM
The transfer window doesn't open until 9th June so surely no announcement can be made before then.


EZOf course announcements can be made, he just cannot be registered to play.

We could sign a player from Brazil when the window is shut that wouldn't sign for us until 2020. There are no rules against signing players at any time or announcing it at any time. Transfer windows are simply registration windows and generally contract start/end dates.

Michael
22-05-2018, 02:14 PM
The transfer window doesn't open until 9th June so surely no announcement can be made before then.


EZ

Plenty of clubs have announced signings so far. If all the paperwork is done you can announce. Only difference the window makes is that the player registration can be formally transferred.

HoboHarry
22-05-2018, 02:42 PM
The transfer window doesn't open until 9th June so surely no announcement can be made before then.


EZ
Hearts have already announced a couple of signings.....

J-C
22-05-2018, 02:42 PM
The transfer window doesn't open until 9th June so surely no announcement can be made before then.


EZ


Rangers announced Arfield already yet he can't officially sign till 9th

overdrive
22-05-2018, 02:45 PM
You can sign a player whenever you want. You can’t register him when the window isn’t open though.

Borderhibbie76
22-05-2018, 02:47 PM
Hearts have already announced a couple of signings.....And they can keep every single One of them...I'd rather wait and hear of quality signings

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HoboHarry
22-05-2018, 03:05 PM
And they can keep every single One of them...I'd rather wait and hear of quality signings

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No arguments from me - I'd be totally underwhelmed if I was a Yak fan.....

Borderhibbie76
22-05-2018, 03:07 PM
No arguments from me - I'd be totally underwhelmed if I was a Yak fan.....Completely....look like utter dross so far to me

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Oscar T Grouch
22-05-2018, 04:22 PM
I predict Celtc will spend more on one player in the close season than the huns will spend in the whole window. 😂

HoboHarry
22-05-2018, 04:25 PM
I predict Celtc will spend more on one player in the close season than the huns will spend in the whole window. 😂
Jim Traynor will tell us otherwise and the half-a-heid Sevco fans will believe every word of it.........

Ozyhibby
22-05-2018, 04:29 PM
I predict Celtc will spend more on one player in the close season than the huns will spend in the whole window. [emoji23]

If they sign the lad from PSG then I’m sure it’s £7m they have to pay so I think you will be spot on.


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Stuart93
22-05-2018, 05:25 PM
If they sign the lad from PSG then I’m sure it’s £7m they have to pay so I think you will be spot on.


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£10m

bingo70
22-05-2018, 05:47 PM
If they sign the lad from PSG then I’m sure it’s £7m they have to pay so I think you will be spot on.


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Been nothing special as well.

I’d rather have kamberi