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calumhibee1
27-06-2018, 10:17 AM
In that case, I wholeheartedly agree. :greengrin
I love it when Scottish players do well for the better teams in England, but apart from Andy Robertson ( who might not keep his place when Moreno is 100% fit again) it doesn't happen too often these days. Playing for, never mind captaining, Celtc all those years is a bigger achievement and challenge than if he'd signed for someone like Brighton or Crystal Palace.
It's ok if you lose games with the likes of West Bromwich and Huddersfield, just as long as you get 40 points out of a possible 114. In fact, Southampton only got 36 points last term and they were 3 clear of relegation.
If you've got a losing mentality at Celtc, you're not there for long.
Agree. People are too quick to write off Scott Browns career as a waste. The only time going down south is a better move than captaining Celtic and playing Champions League and winning trophies for fun is if you go to one of the top 4 or 5.
superfurryhibby
27-06-2018, 10:26 AM
It's interesting that players who go to Celtic lack ambition, but players like Lewis Stevenson and Paul Hanlon, who don't even do that, are heroes.
I have no doubt that both those players could have brokered deals to "challenge themselves" down south which would have been good for them financially, but they decided to stay at Hibs.
Good point.
Got to laugh at some of the posts on here. Sign for an English championship club or sign for the club you’ve supported all your life, that your family has been immersed in for generations, where you will win medals, regularly play in Europe, achieve prominence at international level. Bloody hard decision that one.
calumhibee1
27-06-2018, 10:29 AM
Good point.
Got to laugh at some of the posts on here. Sign for an English championship club or sign for the club you’ve supported all your life, that your family has been immersed in for generations, where you will win medals, regularly play in Europe, achieve prominence at international level. Bloody hard decision that one.
I can’t believe some people think Southampton etc is a better place to spend your career. If I was a footballer I’d be going to Celtic and winning 3 trophies a season while earning a fortune in a heartbeat.
CapitalGreen
27-06-2018, 10:34 AM
I can’t believe some people think Southampton etc is a better place to spend your career. If I was a footballer I’d be going to Celtic and winning 3 trophies a season while earning a fortune in a heartbeat.
Van Dijk and Wanyama haven't looked back since leaving Celtic for Southampton.
neil7908
27-06-2018, 10:40 AM
I can’t believe some people think Southampton etc is a better place to spend your career. If I was a footballer I’d be going to Celtic and winning 3 trophies a season while earning a fortune in a heartbeat.
I get signing for Celtic but thinking about Brown here, I think it's a shame he never moved on a few years back. 2-3 years at Celtic to get some of medals, Champions League football etc makes sense but after the that I think it would be more ambitious to try your luck in another league.
There are of course lots of motivating factors (family, stability, captaincy etc) but personally if it was me I'd look back at the end of my career and feel I stayed in a comfort zone rather than testing myself.
I have massive respect for Liam Henderson doing what he has done, particularly at his age. I'd like to see more players in Scotland go abroad.
Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 10:41 AM
Van Dijk and Wanyama haven't looked back since leaving Celtic for Southampton.
They didn't spend their career at Southampton, though.
Do you reckon Scott Brown was good enough to get a game for Spurs or Liverpool, never mind hold down a place?
Ronniekirk
27-06-2018, 10:50 AM
What a ridiculous post, so what if I spoke to McGinn and that's what he said, it's also been commented on by a few other posters that he wanted to go south. People are allowed to change their minds and if he goes to Celtic it might well be the case that he has done just that, personally I'd prefer him to go south rather than to Celtic but as I'm just a fan I have no control, I feel he'd become a better player by going south but if he goes west I sincerely hope we get the best deal we can.
It was my understanding that going down South was previously his preferred option so if he goes to Celtic something has changed but would still think it would be a stepping stone to then move to England If you have ambitions to play there then that will happen if good enough
Maybe Rodgers appointment at Celtic has been a factor , but let's see what happens
But would rather something now happens so we can all move on from this Saga
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neil7908
27-06-2018, 10:51 AM
They didn't spend their career at Southampton, though.
Do you reckon Scott Brown was good enough to get a game for Spurs or Liverpool, never mind hold down a place?
On your second point, we'll never know that. Van Dijk didn't move straight to Liverpool, he moved to a smaller team down in England, tested himself, improved as a player and showed he was good enough for a higher level. We'll never know how to Brown would have done as he wanted to stay. I never thought Andy Robertson would play in a Champions League final but he has. That wouldn't be the case if he stuck with Dundee United, or ended up at Celtic rather than the Hull.
Tierney is a great example. Very good player but we'll never knowledge how good he can be if he spends his career at Celtic.
Agree. People are too quick to write off Scott Browns career as a waste. The only time going down south is a better move than captaining Celtic and playing Champions League and winning trophies for fun is if you go to one of the top 4 or 5.
Don't think writing off his career, maybe a lack of ambition, he's won everything at Celtic, I'd like to have seen what he was capable of down south, he definitely had the talent to do well for a decent size club.
calumhibee1
27-06-2018, 10:56 AM
They didn't spend their career at Southampton, though.
Do you reckon Scott Brown was good enough to get a game for Spurs or Liverpool, never mind hold down a place?
That’s the difference for me. Scott Brown isn’t/wasn’t good enough to play for one of the clubs capable of winning anything in England.
Where’s the fun in going down there to finish 7th and get to the last 8 of cups each year?
Souter96Mac
27-06-2018, 10:59 AM
Are we signing Scott Brown?
Hibbyradge
27-06-2018, 11:01 AM
On your second point, we'll never know that. Van Dijk didn't move straight to Liverpool, he moved to a smaller team down in England, tested himself, improved as a player and showed he was good enough for a higher level. We'll never know how to Brown would have done as he wanted to stay. I never thought Andy Robertson would play in a Champions League final but he has. That wouldn't be the case if he stuck with Dundee United, or ended up at Celtic rather than the Hull.
Tierney is a great example. Very good player but we'll never knowledge how good he can be if he spends his career at Celtic.
We also don't know for sure if anyone in England wanted to sign Scott Brown.
I do have sympathy with the argument that players have the opportunity to improve if they play against better players.
I'd much prefer if SJM went to a decent standard club south of the border, not only so he doesn't play against us, but so he can improve and his Scotland performances benefit as a result.
However, he's not going to get much opportunity to improve if he's playing for a League One or a mediocre Championship side.
Of course, as we all know, the best move for his career, and clearly the most ambitious, would be to sign up for another 4 years at Hibs. 😁
Onceinawhile
27-06-2018, 11:05 AM
We also don't know for sure if anyone in England wanted to sign Scott Brown.
I do have sympathy with the argument that players have the opportunity to improve if they play against better players.
I'd much prefer if SJM went to a decent standard club south of the border, not only so he doesn't play against us, but so he can improve and his Scotland performances benefit as a result.
However, he's not going to get much opportunity to improve if he's playing for a League One or a mediocre Championship side.
Of course, as we all know, the best move for his career, and clearly the most ambitious, would be to sign up for another 4 years at Hibs. 😁
Reading had a 4m bid accepted I'm sure?
ancient hibee
27-06-2018, 11:06 AM
McGinn could have gone straight to Southampton.He’s every bit as good as Armstrong and far more consistent(and durable).Southampton have missed a big opportunity.
Ralphy C
27-06-2018, 11:14 AM
They didn't spend their career at Southampton, though.
Do you reckon Scott Brown was good enough to get a game for Spurs or Liverpool, never mind hold down a place?
I honestly thought the Scott Brown that i first saw at Easter Road could go on to that level.
Thecat23
27-06-2018, 11:15 AM
This Scott Brown thread is kinda *****!
GlesgaeHibby
27-06-2018, 11:16 AM
They didn't spend their career at Southampton, though.
Do you reckon Scott Brown was good enough to get a game for Spurs or Liverpool, never mind hold down a place?
Yes - Charlie Adam managed it and Scott Brown is a far better player IMO.
matty_f
27-06-2018, 11:17 AM
I get signing for Celtic but thinking about Brown here, I think it's a shame he never moved on a few years back. 2-3 years at Celtic to get some of medals, Champions League football etc makes sense but after the that I think it would be more ambitious to try your luck in another league.
There are of course lots of motivating factors (family, stability, captaincy etc) but personally if it was me I'd look back at the end of my career and feel I stayed in a comfort zone rather than testing myself.
I have massive respect for Liam Henderson doing what he has done, particularly at his age. I'd like to see more players in Scotland go abroad.
Good post, I think Brown's been very happy at Celtc as well - I think life's short and if you find somewhere to work where you're happy then you're very lucky.
Michael
27-06-2018, 11:22 AM
Scott Brown could have played in an average Spurs or Liverpool team - don't think he'd get in those sides now.
IGRIGI
27-06-2018, 11:26 AM
I preferred the puns to this chat.
matty_f
27-06-2018, 11:28 AM
I preferred the puns to this chat.
I like how you've improved it with that contribution though. :faf:
southern hibby
27-06-2018, 11:30 AM
Did ( I might be wrong ) spurs not put a bid in for Scott not long after he left us or was it just rumours
GGTTH
Stevie Reid
27-06-2018, 11:30 AM
McGinn could have gone straight to Southampton.He’s every bit as good as Armstrong and far more consistent(and durable).Southampton have missed a big opportunity.
Don't really know how such comparisons can be so easily made, but the key and obvious difference is goals - Armstrong has great ratios for Celtic, after a decent scoring record at Utd. He scored 17 goals in one season, without taking free kicks or pens, which is exceptional.
McGinn doesn't score enough.
Bostonhibby
27-06-2018, 11:34 AM
I preferred the puns to this chat.Yep, fed up of all this brown nosing[emoji6]
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PatHead
27-06-2018, 11:37 AM
Don’t know what broonie has Scott to do with this thread.
ancient hibee
27-06-2018, 11:48 AM
Don't really know how such comparisons can be so easily made, but the key and obvious difference is goals - Armstrong has great ratios for Celtic, after a decent scoring record at Utd. He scored 17 goals in one season, without taking free kicks or pens, which is exceptional.
McGinn doesn't score enough.
I would agree he doesn’t although Armstrong is liable to get far more chances playing for Celtic. I also think he has far more to offer in running a game than Armstrong who rarely dictates play.
Stevie Reid
27-06-2018, 12:12 PM
I would agree he doesn’t although Armstrong is liable to get far more chances playing for Celtic. I also think he has far more to offer in running a game than Armstrong who rarely dictates play.
Both fair points, AH. Will be interesting to see how SA does at Southampton.
ian cruise
27-06-2018, 12:14 PM
He could still sing for Celtic and play for Hibs, as long as the games don't clash.:greengrin
With their song book I'd prefer he didn't
WeeRussell
27-06-2018, 12:31 PM
You dont play against Aguero and Hazard every week in the EPL , I just dont get this notion that you have to play in England to 'make it' and if you dont go there you've no ambition .
Agree 100%. If it's about playing against world class players - he'd play against as many in Celtic's champions league games as he would playing in the Sky Premier League.
Let the debate on what 'world class' means begin :greengrin
Unseen work
27-06-2018, 12:39 PM
Mcginn is miles off Stuart Armstrong.
calumhibee1
27-06-2018, 12:40 PM
Both fair points, AH. Will be interesting to see how SA does at Southampton.
Scott Allan is signing for Southampton?????
CapitalGreen
27-06-2018, 12:42 PM
Mcginn is miles off Stuart Armstrong.
A new entry in the hibs.net Hyperbole Summer Challenge.
Decent effort, 8/10.
Heisenberg
27-06-2018, 12:45 PM
Mcginn is miles off Stuart Armstrong.
McGinn and Armstrong are completely different kinds of midfielders. Difficult to compare them.
Billy Whizz
27-06-2018, 12:49 PM
Surely not, was on here yesterday
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hearts/hearts-keen-on-ex-hibs-and-celtic-midfielder-liam-henderson-reports-1-4760625
makaveli1875
27-06-2018, 12:50 PM
Scott Allan is signing for Southampton?????
Different SA mate , Stuart Armstrong
MWHIBBIES
27-06-2018, 12:51 PM
Mcginn is miles off Stuart Armstrong.
Yeah, about 350 miles between Easter road and st Mary's. In terms of ability, no chance.
CapitalGreen
27-06-2018, 12:52 PM
Surely not, was on here yesterday
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hearts/hearts-keen-on-ex-hibs-and-celtic-midfielder-liam-henderson-reports-1-4760625
and on here is where they will have lifted it from.
SouthMoroccoStu
27-06-2018, 12:52 PM
Surely not, was on here yesterday
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hearts/hearts-keen-on-ex-hibs-and-celtic-midfielder-liam-henderson-reports-1-4760625
Nae chance
Hearts don't have the kind of money that he's being spoken about
Lazy journalism by The Scotsman
Since90+2
27-06-2018, 12:58 PM
Henderson to Hearts? He'd never sign for they bunch of tramps. Actually comicle that a newspaper would even print that.
Brightside
27-06-2018, 12:58 PM
Surely not, was on here yesterday
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hearts/hearts-keen-on-ex-hibs-and-celtic-midfielder-liam-henderson-reports-1-4760625
About time they put the scotsman to sleep. A joke of a paper. How could that even get published.
BOB MARLEYS DUG
27-06-2018, 01:02 PM
Henderson to Hearts? He'd never sign for they bunch of tramps. Actually comicle that a newspaper would even print that.
Was with then as a boy but couldnt see him going back.
adhibs
27-06-2018, 01:03 PM
Henderson to Hearts? He'd never sign for they bunch of tramps. Actually comicle that a newspaper would even print that.
I dont know they guy, but im still 100% sure he never would. Stories probably been released by them in an attempt to reafirm their 'natural order' drlusion.
Liberal Hibby
27-06-2018, 01:15 PM
1. My comment tongue in cheek.
2. Obviously I didn't hear him say/read that but it's well known that he and his family are Celtic minded with his granddad being an ex Celtic chairman. Also a couple of posters have said they've spoken to family embers and they said he's desperate to go there.
Even if he is desperate to go to Celtc - having interest south of the border gives him leverage to get a better deal (and Hibs a higher fee).
The_Horde
27-06-2018, 01:24 PM
I dont know they guy, but im still 100% sure he never would. Stories probably been released by them in an attempt to reafirm their 'natural order' drlusion.
Was in an Italian paper. Obviously got the wrong Embra side.
SHODAN
27-06-2018, 01:27 PM
Surely not, was on here yesterday
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hearts/hearts-keen-on-ex-hibs-and-celtic-midfielder-liam-henderson-reports-1-4760625
If Hearts sign Henderson for £1 million then the SPFL should launch an investigation into their spending. They DO NOT have the money.
Jones28
27-06-2018, 01:39 PM
If Hearts sign Henderson for £1 million then the SPFL should launch an investigation into their spending. They DO NOT have the money.
This will catagorcially not happen.
scoopyboy
27-06-2018, 01:58 PM
Was with then as a boy but couldnt see him going back.
You sure about that?
I thought he signed for Celtic when he was 12.
You sure about that?
I thought he signed for Celtic when he was 12.
No mention of him being at Hearts as a laddie and as you said joined Celtic 2008 as a 12 year old.
Thecat23
27-06-2018, 02:05 PM
This will catagorcially not happen.
Correct.
Callum_62
27-06-2018, 02:06 PM
Will we sign him though? [emoji57]
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Why is there mention of Henderson moving? has he not settled in Italy?
Smartie
27-06-2018, 02:26 PM
If Hearts sign Henderson for £1 million then the SPFL should launch an investigation into their spending. They DO NOT have the money.
Seemingly they are planning on playing him in a front 4 with Messi, Ronaldo and the Lady Haig poppy money.
CapitalGreen
27-06-2018, 02:43 PM
You sure about that?
I thought he signed for Celtic when he was 12.
Transfermarkt has him listed at Hearts in 2008.
YOUTH CLUBS
St Margaret’s Academy, Broxburn Athletic Colts, Heart of Midlothian FC (bis 2008), Celtic FC (2008-2014)
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/liam-henderson/transfers/spieler/193867
Jim44
27-06-2018, 02:45 PM
I thought Henderson was doing well in Italy and was signing for Fiorintina?
Billy Whizz
27-06-2018, 02:50 PM
I thought Henderson was doing well in Italy and was signing for Fiorintina?
I did too
nonshinyfinish
27-06-2018, 02:52 PM
Sweet merciful Zeus we need a Hibs rumour.
About time they put the scotsman to sleep. A joke of a paper. How could that even get published.
Exactly, an unattributed report in an Italian newspaper, which is almost certainly an error, gets picked up by what used to be a reputable journal & given life. Next think the Yams are salivating & wondering just how many plastic coos they need to fill to pay for Liam. 100% total nonsense!!
euro Hibby
27-06-2018, 02:56 PM
Not much in the papers on Henderson. Bari are a selling club and seem to have some administrative issues so not getting promotion means they probably would punt him to the highest bidder.
Grosso has gone to Verona ( ex manager ) . I actually think you could get him for 200,000 . Not sure i believe the paper quotes too much. That said ...to Hearts , not a chance ! Somebody on the bevvy ..
scoopyboy
27-06-2018, 02:59 PM
Transfermarkt has him listed at Hearts in 2008.
YOUTH CLUBS
St Margaret’s Academy, Broxburn Athletic Colts, Heart of Midlothian FC (bis 2008), Celtic FC (2008-2014)
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/liam-henderson/transfers/spieler/193867
Fair enough, can't really argue with that.
What does bis mean in brackets?
Sweet merciful Zeus we need a Hibs rumour.
We need a hibs signing.!!
nonshinyfinish
27-06-2018, 03:04 PM
We need a hibs signing.!!
Steady.
nonshinyfinish
27-06-2018, 03:05 PM
Fair enough, can't really argue with that.
What does bis mean in brackets?
It's a German site, bis means until.
scoopyboy
27-06-2018, 03:52 PM
It's a German site, bis means until.
Thanks, every days a school day. :thumbsup:
So he was at Hearts when he was around 10-11, not really an ex Hearts player is it.
CapitalGreen
27-06-2018, 04:13 PM
So he was at Hearts when he was around 10-11, not really an ex Hearts player is it.
What's the age cut off?
nonshinyfinish
27-06-2018, 04:15 PM
What's the age cut off?
11 and a half. Lucky escape for Hendo.
RoxburghHibs
27-06-2018, 04:21 PM
No mention of him being at Hearts as a laddie and as you said joined Celtic 2008 as a 12 year old.
The Liam Henderson that was at Hearts now plays for Livi or someone like that. Not the same person.
Sprouleflyer
27-06-2018, 04:23 PM
Fair enough, can't really argue with that.
What does bis mean in brackets?
Blooter it Skywards
Thats why he left.
Hibs90
27-06-2018, 04:41 PM
Would like to see a signing or two in the next few days. Wonder what the hold ups are. And no, I am not worried, just impatient :greengrin
Callum_62
27-06-2018, 04:42 PM
When can we officially become worried?
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SaulGoodman
27-06-2018, 04:55 PM
When can we officially become worried?
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November
CRAZYHIBBY
27-06-2018, 04:56 PM
When can we officially become worried?
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2pm friday
Callum_62
27-06-2018, 05:00 PM
2pm friday
Andy Halliday announcement?
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Is there not a chance that like Dylan with us, players are still under contract at other teams until the 1st July. Sure the train will be moving more then on the frees.
hibees 7062
27-06-2018, 05:37 PM
https://hydc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/IMG_9155-300x210.jpg
Name: Liam HendersonDate of Birth: 23/08/1996Position: DefencePrevious Club(s): Hutchison Vale, Hearts Youth InitiativeJoined Hearts: 2014Biography: Liam joined Hearts at an 18 year old from Hutchison Vale for the start of season 2014/15, although he was formerly on Hearts books as a youngster. Liam currently plays in defence and was a key member of Hutchison Vale\’s U19 side last season.Status: Retained as a youth player for season 2014/15.
CapitalGreen
27-06-2018, 05:40 PM
https://hydc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/IMG_9155-300x210.jpg
Name: Liam HendersonDate of Birth: 23/08/1996Position: DefencePrevious Club(s): Hutchison Vale, Hearts Youth InitiativeJoined Hearts: 2014Biography: Liam joined Hearts at an 18 year old from Hutchison Vale for the start of season 2014/15, although he was formerly on Hearts books as a youngster. Liam currently plays in defence and was a key member of Hutchison Vale\’s U19 side last season.Status: Retained as a youth player for season 2014/15.
Yes, there is 2 Liam Henderson’s and both spent time with Hearts at youth level.
Billy Whizz
27-06-2018, 05:46 PM
Scott Allan comes on as a 2nd half sub, for Celtic just now against Vorwarts
Replaces Scott Sinclair
keep the faith
27-06-2018, 05:55 PM
Scott Allan comes on as a 2nd half sub, for Celtic just now against Vorwarts
Replaces Scott Sinclair
Got a feeling he is going to get a 2nd chance there.
Terrible news for us!!
Smartie
27-06-2018, 05:56 PM
Scott Allan comes on as a 2nd half sub, for Celtic just now against Vorwarts
Replaces Scott Sinclair
Well, he can stay at Celtic and play friendlies against teams from Harry Potter or he can join us and play in proper European competition.
Up to him.
danhibees1875
27-06-2018, 05:58 PM
Well, he can stay at Celtic and play friendlies against teams from Harry Potter or he can join us and play in proper European competition.
Up to him.
:faf:
Borderhibbie76
27-06-2018, 06:02 PM
Is there not a chance that like Dylan with us, players are still under contract at other teams until the 1st July. Sure the train will be moving more then on the frees.I'm sure the signings will come but can we please stop with these ridiculous excuses...other teams are signing players so this is a .NET nonsense...it's making this thread even more painful reading just now. The same was being posted at end of may/beg of June
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cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 06:02 PM
Got a feeling he is going to get a 2nd chance there.
Terrible news for us!!
or, sellick playing him in a friendly and telling hibs he's part of the plans now...'you'll need to pay more money if you want him'
Mcgeough news in the next day or two. Sunderland Aberdeen or Hibs
A
Nicho87
27-06-2018, 06:08 PM
or, sellick playing him in a friendly and telling hibs he's part of the plans now...'you'll need to pay more money if you want him'
This exactly. So when they bid for McGinn they can give us the **** he was going to be a key part of the squad rotation system. BS
superfurryhibby
27-06-2018, 06:11 PM
Got a feeling he is going to get a 2nd chance there.
Terrible news for us!!
Try Tenna Man.
Mcgeough news in the next day or two. Sunderland Aberdeen or Hibs
A
I’ll be terribly disappointed if he signs for Aberdeen!
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Bob Box Fish
27-06-2018, 06:15 PM
Mcgeough news in the next day or two. Sunderland Aberdeen or Hibs
A
Someone’s been on twitter ;)
WhileTheChief..
27-06-2018, 06:23 PM
or, sellick playing him in a friendly and telling hibs he's part of the plans now...'you'll need to pay more money if you want him'
Or simply playing him cause he’s a Celtic player and still part of their squad!
Him playing tonight will have zero impact on him coming to us.
Someone’s been on twitter ;)
Yup! I know some people aren’t on it on here. I have no inside knowledge haha just what I read on Twitter
SloopJB
27-06-2018, 06:25 PM
When can we officially become worried?
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Soon
Michael
27-06-2018, 06:27 PM
Mcgeough news in the next day or two. Sunderland Aberdeen or Hibs
A
It'll be Sunderland. With their gates they'll be paying a lot more than us or Aberdeen.
LancsHibs
27-06-2018, 06:28 PM
I’ll be terribly disappointed if he signs for Aberdeen!
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Really cant see him signing for Aberdeen, makes no sense. He will go to Sunderland or resign for us
hfc rd
27-06-2018, 06:31 PM
Really cant see him signing for Aberdeen, makes no sense. He will go to Sunderland or resign for us
That’s what I think as well.
Hope he stays but just got a feeling he’s Sunderland bound.
DavidDavidGray
27-06-2018, 06:31 PM
Paul the Tim tweeting that McGinn to Celtic isn’t happening so that’s that settled
Really cant see him signing for Aberdeen, makes no sense. He will go to Sunderland or resign for us
Neither can I but you never know. Hopefully he’ll resign (can’t see it though) still got a chance
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hfc rd
27-06-2018, 06:40 PM
Paul the Tim tweeting that McGinn to Celtic isn’t happening so that’s that settled
Is he reliable?
If so, wonder what our chances of getting Scott Allan are like now?
keep the faith
27-06-2018, 06:43 PM
Try Tenna Man.
Strange reply.
CapitalGreen
27-06-2018, 06:46 PM
Mcgeough news in the next day or two. Sunderland Aberdeen or Hibs
A
His brothers wedding tomorrow so I wouldn’t expect to hear anything until Friday at the earliest.
Bob Box Fish
27-06-2018, 06:50 PM
Sunderland’s average gate last year was 27,000 in a 49,000 seater stadium this will likely drop again this season. Two consecutive relegations, fan morale at rock bottom and playing in league one....
Surely European football, more visibility for Scotland caps and playing in an almost 90% full stadium every other week is more attractive. If he goes there it’s only money driven.
Hibeesmad
27-06-2018, 06:53 PM
Is he reliable?
If so, wonder what our chances of getting Scott Allan are like now?
Yeah he’s usually spot on with regards of Celtic info. If it is the case then I expect McGinn is south bound
CapitalGreen
27-06-2018, 06:54 PM
Sunderland’s average gate last year was 27,000 in a 49,000 seater stadium this will likely drop again this season. Two consecutive relegations, fan morale at rock bottom and playing in league one....
Sounds like the circumstances we were in when he first came to us minus a relegation but with 3x the attendances.
Hibeesmad
27-06-2018, 06:54 PM
Wouldn’t be surprised to see McGeough go to Aberdeen
Leith Green
27-06-2018, 06:55 PM
Personally think our only chance to keep Dylan was if no clubs of any real stature came in for him .. Unfortunately for us Sunderland is a big step up from Hibs these days even in league one. I thought he may have found at least a mid table championship club.. Best of luck to him if he joins Sunderland, not particularly keen on them as a club , but they are a big club who really belong in the premiership.
B.H.F.C
27-06-2018, 06:56 PM
Wouldn’t be surprised to see McGeough go to Aberdeen
Wouldn’t be a good move for him at all IMO. Sideways at best.
Borderhibbie76
27-06-2018, 06:56 PM
Personally think our only chance to keep Dylan was if no clubs of any real stature came in for him .. Unfortunately for us Sunderland is a big step up from Hibs these days even in league one. I thought he may have found at least a mid table championship club.. Best of luck to him if he joins Sunderland, not particularly keen on them as a club , but they are a big club who really belong in the premiership.At the present time Sunderland are NOT a big step up from Hibs sorry I totally disagree. And so does Flo Kamberi thankfully
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Leith Green
27-06-2018, 06:56 PM
Sounds like the circumstances we were in when he first came to us minus a relegation but with 3x the attendances.
You could argue that its not a bad time to join them. Rock bottom and rebuilding, similar to when Stubbs joined Hibs ..
Bob Box Fish
27-06-2018, 06:57 PM
Sounds like the circumstances we were in when he first came to us minus a relegation but with 3x the attendances.
I recently relocated from near sunderland and used to work with a lot of season ticket holders and I would say they are at rock bottom and worse than our comparison.
Leith Green
27-06-2018, 06:58 PM
At the present time Sunderland are NOT a big step up from Hibs sorry I totally disagree. And so does Flo Kamberi thankfully
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Bigger fan base and more money , i think it is a step up.
Heisenberg
27-06-2018, 06:59 PM
See no reason why he picks Aberdeen over us. Massive sideways step.
Smartie
27-06-2018, 07:02 PM
You could argue that its not a bad time to join them. Rock bottom and rebuilding, similar to when Stubbs joined Hibs ..
I think he'll go to Sunderland.
The Hibs move has been good for McGeouch (and McGinn) and they're not in too dissimilar a position to the one we were in when he joined - relegated club, new manager, fresh start at a club whose potential is bigger than their current level.
The last couple of years were grim for Sunderland fans, but was McGeouch giving the Butcher era too much thought when he joined us (initially on loan)?
Borderhibbie76
27-06-2018, 07:03 PM
Bigger fan base and more money , i think it is a step up.Games against Celtic, The Rangers and Aberdeen plus Edinburgh derbies or games against Bradford, Charlton and the likes ...not a step up for me in current times
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Leith Green
27-06-2018, 07:04 PM
See no reason why he picks Aberdeen over us. Massive sideways step.
I agree .. Its difficult for Hibs or Aberdeen to keep their best players when we have no realistic chance of challenging for the title .. What motivation is there beyond challenging for 2nd and the odd cup. Sunderland offers the challenge of promotion to a better league than ours and puts the player in a far better position for any decent future transfer
Leith Green
27-06-2018, 07:08 PM
Games against Celtic, The Rangers and Aberdeen plus Edinburgh derbies or games against Bradford, Charlton and the likes ...not a step up for me in current times
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I dont disagree some of our games are higer profile than Sunderland will play next season , but i dont think you can argue that its a step up in size of club and the potential opportunities for the player. He was our best player last season and look at his rumoured options. If he is Sunderlands player of the year next season then his options will be far greater. That makes it a step up for me
Captain Trips
27-06-2018, 07:09 PM
Is he reliable?
If so, wonder what our chances of getting Scott Allan are like now?
Should not matter if Celtic do not want him that's fine.
Borderhibbie76
27-06-2018, 07:14 PM
I dont disagree some of our games are higer profile than Sunderland will play next season , but i dont think you can argue that its a step up in size of club and the potential opportunities for the player. He was our best player last season and look at his rumoured options. If he is Sunderlands player of the year next season then his options will be far greater. That makes it a step up for meI see what you mean...on the other hand if it all goes wrong he could be back up the road before you can blink. I just don't league 1 football will suit Dylan mate...far too physical for him imo...time will tell tho
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Leith Green
27-06-2018, 07:17 PM
I see what you mean...on the other hand if it all goes wrong he could be back up the road before you can blink. I just don't league 1 football will suit Dylan mate...far too physical for him imo...time will tell tho
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If it goes wrong he will probably be able to join Hibs or Aberdeen id imagine
Since90+2
27-06-2018, 07:17 PM
See no reason why he picks Aberdeen over us. Massive sideways step.
Money? If it's between us or Aberdeen as he doesn't fancy League 1 and he is being offered even £1k more per week it's probably an extra couple of hundred thousand pounds in his pocket over the course of the contract.
Of course we won't know exactly what each club is offering but it seems to be generally accepted that Aberdeen pay higher wages than us.
erin go bragh
27-06-2018, 07:24 PM
It'll be Sunderland. With their gates they'll be paying a lot more than us or Aberdeen.
They allegedly offered him 5k a week , going up to 6.5k if they win promotion.
If that is accurate I can see him staying with us .
allezsauzee
27-06-2018, 07:27 PM
I'd like us to keep Dylan but this time last year, I'd say quite a few people would have been 50/50 on whether to even offer him another contract because of his injury problems. it's not the end of the world if he leaves.
Bob Box Fish
27-06-2018, 07:30 PM
If that £5k is close to what they offered him per week surely we can’t be a mile away from that ?
Tyler Durden
27-06-2018, 07:37 PM
I still think McGeouch will get a Championship team. It’s still early days.
No chance he signs for Aberdeen.
calumhibee1
27-06-2018, 07:38 PM
When can we officially become worried?
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I’m already worried and justifiably so. We should be further on than we are. I’m sure it’ll be alright in the end but we should have more of our targets in by now, it’s as simple as that.
I’m already worried and justifiably so. We should be further on than we are. I’m sure it’ll be alright in the end but we should have more of our targets in by now, it’s as simple as that.
Agree.
Just Jimmy
27-06-2018, 07:51 PM
I’m already worried and justifiably so. We should be further on than we are. I’m sure it’ll be alright in the end but we should have more of our targets in by now, it’s as simple as that.Same old story. Before anyone jumps, last summer was EXACTLY the same.
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Ryan69
27-06-2018, 07:53 PM
Bigger fan base and more money , i think it is a step up.
You cant be much of a fan if you believe going to the third tier of football is a step up from Hibs!
Sorry mate
AgentDaleCooper
27-06-2018, 07:55 PM
You cant be much of a fan if you believe going to the third tier of football is a step up from Hibs!
Sorry mate
oh come on.
Johnny_Leith
27-06-2018, 07:56 PM
You cant be much of a fan if you believe going to the third tier of football is a step up from Hibs!
Sorry mate
Why does his/her opinion make them less of a hibs fan?
CapitalGreen
27-06-2018, 07:59 PM
Same old story. Before anyone jumps, last summer was EXACTLY the same.
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I’d take Qualifying for Europe again this season, haven’t qualified in consecutive seasons for over 40 years.
Leith Green
27-06-2018, 08:02 PM
You cant be much of a fan if you believe going to the third tier of football is a step up from Hibs!
Sorry mate
I think ur being a wee bit dramatic saying it doesnt make me much of a fan. The reality is that he is putting himself in bigger window if he does well down there , far bigger than if he is doing well up here. They are a bigger club. If he fails down there then Hibs or Aberdeen would bite his hand off to sign him , that says it all in my opinion
Smartie
27-06-2018, 08:04 PM
I’d take Qualifying for Europe again this season, haven’t qualified in consecutive seasons for over 40 years.
I didn't know that.
That's a horrendous stat.
Hibee Mac
27-06-2018, 08:13 PM
What's the point in setting European football as your target for the season and then going into the first game underprepared and with a half baked team?
Johnny_Leith
27-06-2018, 08:16 PM
What's the point in setting European football as your target for the season and then going into the first game underprepared and with a half baked team?
Well do you think Hibs haven't tried to get players in?
If you think we have, but have been unsuccessful bar kamberi, then should we be lowering the bar and getting players in for the sake of having fresh faces (albeit, of lesser quality)?
Springbank
27-06-2018, 08:17 PM
What's the point in setting European football as your target for the season and then going into the first game underprepared and with a half baked team?
hard to argue with that.
madhatter
27-06-2018, 08:18 PM
This thread stopped being a transfer thread long ago...
130 pages to say “We have signed Kamberi”
Not panicking but slightly concerned that we’ve got 2 players just on trial now when we’ve had all this “quite far along with 2-3” for weeks and weeks. If we even have players on trial...
When you remove the loans we had last season, who haven’t returned, plus Bell and McGeouch, our squad is threadbare and we have European matches very shortly.
Just get the impression that we may be seeing Europe as a nice wee bonus that we’ll see what happens with what we have for the moment...hope I’m wrong.
Come on get our midfield sorted at least! McGeouch coming or going, McGinn going? Arguably our best players...
madhatter
27-06-2018, 08:24 PM
McGeouch is clearly better player but in fairness was Fyvie not told “Yer too late!” by this time? I’m all for waiting but this deadline seems very lengthy.
bingo70
27-06-2018, 08:24 PM
What's the point in setting European football as your target for the season and then going into the first game underprepared and with a half baked team?
Do you really need that answered?
The team will be prepared but we might have to wait a bit to get all our signings in.
Not really sure what you want the club to do? Sign anybody for the sake of getting numbers in? Give up on our main targets prematurely and move on to plan b so we are ready for a part time team we should beat anyway? Spend more than we can afford to get players in early.
SRHibs
27-06-2018, 08:25 PM
What's the point in setting European football as your target for the season and then going into the first game underprepared and with a half baked team?
We should be able to beat them with this team. No point panic buying players to get us to the next round when it’s only worth an extra £20,000.
Better to bide our team and sign quality prior to (hopefully) facing some decent European teams.
It is an excruciatingly boring transfer window so far though.
bingo70
27-06-2018, 08:27 PM
hard to argue with that.
It’s not really.
It’s a pretty daft post tbh and doesn’t take into account the realities of the transfer window for a club our size. It also suggests the club aren’t doing all they can to get the right players in which if anyone has paid attention to what the club is about over the last few years would know is nonsense.
The_Horde
27-06-2018, 08:31 PM
Dunno why everyones getting themselves so worked up.
For 2 seasons now we've not had to invest heavily in the squad. Just add touches of quality here and there.
It's a great position to be In meaning we can take our time and get the right people In for the right price.
The Nucleus is there. We don't need to panic buy 10 rejects.
CapitalGreen
27-06-2018, 08:33 PM
What's the point in setting European football as your target for the season and then going into the first game underprepared and with a half baked team?
To be fair our opponents are a half baked team.
Springbank
27-06-2018, 08:33 PM
Some ITK Celtic people saying in the last hour mcginn not going to Celtic.
he may play vs the faeroe islanders and greeks for us...and béyond ...
Souter96Mac
27-06-2018, 08:35 PM
Some ITK Celtic people saying in the last hour mcginn not going to Celtic.
he may play vs the faeroe islanders and greeks for us...and béyond ...
I think he'll still be about for the Faroe island games
CropleyWasGod
27-06-2018, 08:36 PM
We should be able to beat them with this team. No point panic buying players to get us to the next round when it’s only worth an extra £20,000.
Better to bide our team and sign quality prior to (hopefully) facing some decent European teams.
It is an excruciatingly boring transfer window so far though.Getting to the next round is worth over 200k Euros.
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madhatter
27-06-2018, 08:38 PM
Dunno why everyones getting themselves so worked up.
For 2 seasons now we've not had to invest heavily in the squad. Just add touches of quality here and there.
It's a great position to be In meaning we can take our time and get the right people In for the right price.
The Nucleus is there. We don't need to panic buy 10 rejects.
In fairness the nucleus of the team includes two key players - one who is currently not at the club, the other who is highly rumoured to be leaving (McGeouch and McGinn). This is probably the biggest test for the recruitment team since the very beginning (Stubbs starting year). Potential of losing McGeouch and McGinn shouldn't be underestimated, the nucleus will be weakened...a lot.
B.H.F.C
27-06-2018, 08:39 PM
It’s not really.
It’s a pretty daft post tbh and doesn’t take into account the realities of the transfer window for a club our size. It also suggests the club aren’t doing all they can to get the right players in which if anyone has paid attention to what the club is about over the last few years would know is nonsense.
I don’t think anybody is suggesting the club aren’t doing everything they can.
As things stand, we are significantly weaker than we were at the end of the season IMO. Our first European tie is two weeks tomorrow. I don’t doubt we’ll get through that with what we have. But unless we add players soon it’ll be a struggle beyond that in terms of getting players up to speed etc.
Lennon has been very open about targeting the group stages. If we are serious about that, we need to have the bulk of our squad in place and match fit. We’re a bit away from that to say the least.
bingo70
27-06-2018, 08:44 PM
I don’t think anybody is suggesting the club aren’t doing everything they can.
As things stand, we are significantly weaker than we were at the end of the season IMO. Our first European tie is two weeks tomorrow. I don’t doubt we’ll get through that with what we have. But unless we add players soon it’ll be a struggle beyond that in terms of getting players up to speed etc.
Lennon has been very open about targeting the group stages. If we are serious about that, we need to have the bulk of our squad in place in match fit. We’re a bit away from that to say the least.
The post I quoted asked the question what was the point in qualifying for Europe and then only having an unprepared and half baked team for it, asking the question alone is suggesting the club aren’t doing enough.
I don’t think it should be any surprise the team isn’t as prepared for the season a few weeks before the start of the season as it was at the end of last season.
Don’t see the issue at all, as it stands we’re only really Mcgeough, barker and Mclaren down from the end of last season and we’ve still got plenty time to sort that, even if it does mean we don’t have everyone in for the game against the team from the Faroes.
SRHibs
27-06-2018, 08:44 PM
Getting to the next round is worth over 200k Euros.
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It’s one payment based on where you reach, surely? There’s a total of £107,000,000 for the tournament. If it was an individual payment for each round the total would be far higher than that considering the number of teams, I’d imagine.
Smartie
27-06-2018, 08:49 PM
It’s one payment based on where you reach, surely? There’s a total of £107,000,000 for the tournament. If it was an individual payment for each round the total would be far higher than that considering the number of teams, I’d imagine.
Where does all of that money come from?
CropleyWasGod
27-06-2018, 08:49 PM
It’s one payment based on where you reach, surely? There’s a total of £107,000,000 for the tournament. If it was an individual payment for each round the total would be far higher than that considering the number of teams, I’d imagine.It's not. There was a discussion on here recently about it.
If getting to the next round was only worth 20k, what would be the incentive? It'll probably cost us 3 times that much in travel and accommodation.
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cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2018, 08:53 PM
maybe we're waiting on players finishing at the world cup :)
Ronniekirk
27-06-2018, 08:58 PM
I’ll be terribly disappointed if he signs for Aberdeen!
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That's a ****ing Understatement Aldo
I would be Gutted as would Lennon
Can't see why he would think that was a step up unless more money and feeling they can finish second and win a Cup and progress in Europe
Finishing second is what they have done consistently and clearly they would love to get Dylan strengthening them and weakening us
But have said from their first interest I didn't think he would go there
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Stuart93
27-06-2018, 08:58 PM
As things stand just now, we'll be starting the season with the same team as last season with kamberi replacing stokes & nocgeouch. Hoping to see some movement soon
Hibeewilly
27-06-2018, 09:04 PM
Dunno why everyones getting themselves so worked up.
For 2 seasons now we've not had to invest heavily in the squad. Just add touches of quality here and there.
It's a great position to be In meaning we can take our time and get the right people In for the right price.
The Nucleus is there. We don't need to panic buy 10 rejects.
Most sensible post on this thread mate:agree:
B.H.F.C
27-06-2018, 09:09 PM
The post I quoted asked the question what was the point in qualifying for Europe and then only having an unprepared and half baked team for it, asking the question alone is suggesting the club aren’t doing enough.
I don’t think it should be any surprise the team isn’t as prepared for the season a few weeks before the start of the season as it was at the end of last season.
Don’t see the issue at all, as it stands we’re only really Mcgeough, barker and Mclaren down from the end of last season and we’ve still got plenty time to sort that, even if it does mean we don’t have everyone in for the game against the team from the Faroes.
Only McGeough, Barker and McLaren? That’s quite a bit weaker when you add Allan in as well. So only our player of the year and two players that transformed us going forward in the second half of the season.
As I said, we don’t need signings to get through the first round. But if there isn’t much in the way of movement soon, how do you get your new players (I know they’ll come at some point) up to speed for the tougher tests to follow?
BenjiOscar
27-06-2018, 09:12 PM
Total prize money for Europa League this season is £446.5 million.
bingo70
27-06-2018, 09:16 PM
Only McGeough, Barker and McLaren? That’s quite a bit weaker when you add Allan in as well. So only our player of the year and two players that transformed us going forward in the second half of the season.
As I said, we don’t need signings to get through the first round. But if there isn’t much in the way of movement soon, how do you get your new players (I know they’ll come at some point) up to speed for the tougher tests to follow?
Yes but you’re just talking about 3 or 4 players needed.
Tbh someone else has replied with my thoughts better than me since i posted.
We don’t need wholesale changes so fornus being as ready as we are now is fine, we’re not playing tomorrow. We need a big squad for the season, not for the first game and even then I’m sure we’ll have a couple of players in before the faroes game.
I’ve lead the panic from the front in previous years but I’m just not seeing it this year, we’ve got a decent team and squad now and plenty time to add the finishing touches, don’t see the fuss at all.
Onceinawhile
27-06-2018, 09:25 PM
Bit light in midfield, but slivka and Swanson in for Allan and mcgeouch isn't too bad. Shaw for McLaren is a step down, but should be good enough to get us through the first leg at least.
tamig
27-06-2018, 09:38 PM
I’m already worried and justifiably so. We should be further on than we are. I’m sure it’ll be alright in the end but we should have more of our targets in by now, it’s as simple as that.
Do you know how far we are on though? There could be several deals at advanced stages. I don’t think anyone knows. Patience.
Tobias Funke
27-06-2018, 09:42 PM
Yes but you’re just talking about 3 or 4 players needed.
Tbh someone else has replied with my thoughts better than me since i posted.
We don’t need wholesale changes so fornus being as ready as we are now is fine, we’re not playing tomorrow. We need a big squad for the season, not for the first game and even then I’m sure we’ll have a couple of players in before the faroes game.
I’ve lead the panic from the front in previous years but I’m just not seeing it this year, we’ve got a decent team and squad now and plenty time to add the finishing touches, don’t see the fuss at all.
There are certain individuals on here whose lives seem to be genuinely affected by lack of transfer activity. I prefer to let the club management get on with things rather than get worked up about it, we’ve a far better approach to transfers these days and I have a high level of confidence that the club will sign the quality we need in due course.
The_Horde
27-06-2018, 09:48 PM
In fairness the nucleus of the team includes two key players - one who is currently not at the club, the other who is highly rumoured to be leaving (McGeouch and McGinn). This is probably the biggest test for the recruitment team since the very beginning (Stubbs starting year). Potential of losing McGeouch and McGinn shouldn't be underestimated, the nucleus will be weakened...a lot.
Still have the base. Defence and goalie doesn't have to change. Wide we have enough quality. We have Kamberi, Olly and Simon up top.. And Mcginn IS still here. We can't replace a player who hasn't already gone.
So you're looking at adding one/two midfielders. One winger and one striker to be on an even keel to last season?
Hardly major surgery and I'd rather we wait and get the right ones as we have for seasons now than wind up signing the yam rejects.
Some people really need to calm down. Yes in an ideal world we’d have all our signings in for day one of pre season but that is never going to happen. Our squad currently is capable of putting 5/6 past a part time team from the faroes id actually expect us to beat the faroes national team. The fact we’ve not picked up a lot of players as of yet suggests to me we are identifying our targets and don’t want any “2nd best” players we’re willing to wait and get the right players. Our closest rivals have signed 10+ I think and if I’m totally honest I don’t think I’d take any of them with us, that’s the standard of player you get this early in the market. You can’t take players from other clubs before they’ve got a replacement 9 tones out of 10, for instance I’m sure Barnsley and Celtic will want to ensure they’ve covered all bases before offloading Mallan and Allan. The same way we all expect to have our squad in shape before perhaps offloading simon murray etc. The full transfer window doesn’t revolve around hibs, have faith in the club and I’m sure we’ll be absolutely fine and have another fantastic season.
ancient hibee
27-06-2018, 09:50 PM
It must be obvious to everyone that until McGinn’s situation becomes clear to the club there won’t be any dramatic changes in midfield.
Iggy Pope
27-06-2018, 10:03 PM
Do you know how far we are on though? There could be several deals at advanced stages. I don’t think anyone knows. Patience.
Dinnae be daft. Underscore, all those cats. They all know what's on. Right?
Since90+2
28-06-2018, 05:38 AM
The post I quoted asked the question what was the point in qualifying for Europe and then only having an unprepared and half baked team for it, asking the question alone is suggesting the club aren’t doing enough.
I don’t think it should be any surprise the team isn’t as prepared for the season a few weeks before the start of the season as it was at the end of last season.
Don’t see the issue at all, as it stands we’re only really Mcgeough, barker and Mclaren down from the end of last season and we’ve still got plenty time to sort that, even if it does mean we don’t have everyone in for the game against the team from the Faroes.
Being McGeough,Barker and McLaren down on last season does make us significantly weaker. Two of those three were first picks and the third was arguably the best impact player in League. And that's before you add in the fact we are also without Scott Allan.
Those 4 players make us a massively better team so without them we are significantly weaker.
Danderhall Hibs
28-06-2018, 05:52 AM
I still think McGeouch will get a Championship team. It’s still early days.
No chance he signs for Aberdeen.
It’s not early days though - he’s been sniffing about since at least January.
There must be an issue that’s preventing him signing elsewhere - Lennon told us in May he was away and yet here we are still sitting with our fingers crossed he re-signs.
calumhibee1
28-06-2018, 06:46 AM
Do you know how far we are on though? There could be several deals at advanced stages. I don’t think anyone knows. Patience.
I don’t know how far advanced we are, but no matter how far advanced we are they’re still not signed and part of the squad yet. We have a European game in 2 weeks which everyone seems to be taking for granted we’ll stroll through, but we most likely won’t because Scottish teams very rarely do.
We play all season for this to be the prize and our preparation for these games is far from ideal, be it because the players we bring in won’t have had much of a pre season training with Hibs or the players might not even be signed at all by that point.
If we have to put out a make shift team in Europe and end up going out I’ll be very disappointed and I’m going to hazard a guess Lennon would be absolutely furious at the board seeing as he’s aiming for the group stages.
BoomtownHibees
28-06-2018, 06:55 AM
Bit light in midfield, but slivka and Swanson in for Allan and mcgeouch isn't too bad. Shaw for McLaren is a step down, but should be good enough to get us through the first leg at least.
Slivka and Swanson is a massive step down I’m comparison to Mcgeouch and Allan IMO
Smartie
28-06-2018, 06:57 AM
Slivka and Swanson is a massive step down I’m comparison to Mcgeouch and Allan IMO
Should be more than enough to deal with the team from the Faroes.
We'll need more than that to beat the Greek team.
tamig
28-06-2018, 07:08 AM
I don’t know how far advanced we are, but no matter how far advanced we are they’re still not signed and part of the squad yet. We have a European game in 2 weeks which everyone seems to be taking for granted we’ll stroll through, but we most likely won’t because Scottish teams very rarely do.
We play all season for this to be the prize and our preparation for these games is far from ideal, be it because the players we bring in won’t have had much of a pre season training with Hibs or the players might not even be signed at all by that point.
If we have to put out a make shift team in Europe and end up going out I’ll be very disappointed and I’m going to hazard a guess Lennon would be absolutely furious at the board seeing as he’s aiming for the group stages.
Makeshift team is a bit over dramatic. We have the bulk of the squad from the last few seasons to pick a decent starting eleven from. The players available are good enough to do the job. That’s before we even start talking about any new recruits who may arrive before then. This team doesn’t need major overhaul.
Brightside
28-06-2018, 07:12 AM
Slivka and Swanson is a massive step down I’m comparison to Mcgeouch and Allan IMO
Different players... but id be very hopeful that Slivka will become a very important player for us this season.
AgentDaleCooper
28-06-2018, 07:12 AM
Slivka and Swanson is a massive step down I’m comparison to Mcgeouch and Allan IMO
The dlivka and swanson that helped us beat celtic aren't much of a step down at all - if anything, swanson was better than allan on an average day that day.
Obviously we need to keep our quality of players up, but it's important to remember that our squad is still very capable.
keep the faith
28-06-2018, 07:17 AM
The dlivka and swanson that helped us beat celtic aren't much of a step down at all - if anything, swanson was better than allan on an average day that day.
Obviously we need to keep our quality of players up, but it's important to remember that our squad is still very capable.
I disagree with your first paragraph really quite a lot!!
PatHead
28-06-2018, 07:37 AM
I don’t know how far advanced we are, but no matter how far advanced we are they’re still not signed and part of the squad yet. We have a European game in 2 weeks which everyone seems to be taking for granted we’ll stroll through, but we most likely won’t because Scottish teams very rarely do.
We play all season for this to be the prize and our preparation for these games is far from ideal, be it because the players we bring in won’t have had much of a pre season training with Hibs or the players might not even be signed at all by that point.
If we have to put out a make shift team in Europe and end up going out I’ll be very disappointed and I’m going to hazard a guess Lennon would be absolutely furious at the board seeing as he’s aiming for the group stages.
Callum, you seem to be panicking quite a lot about the transfer position.
Do you honestly think the club are sitting on their hands waiting for something to happen?
I am sure they are even more frustrated than you are about the length of time it has taken to finalise transfers. As the targets we are going for are better quality players they will have options and will do what is in their best interests. Look at the Kamberi transfer, it took to the last minute and a dash over to Switzerland to make sure the deal was not scuppered by Grasshoppers.
Take Dylan as another example, he is holding out for the best deal he can get, the same might be said about SJM. Players will be told by their agents they have these different options and will maximise what they can get for their client.
Alternatively clubs may not let players go until they have the replacement in place.
I'm afraid patience is the key.
Alternatively we could just sign a whole batch of players to keep things moving along. Is their any player who has gone elsewhere that you wish Hibs had signed.
GreenNWhiteArmy
28-06-2018, 07:40 AM
Marciano? Ambrose. McGregor. Hanlon. Stevenson. Boyle/Whitty/Gray. Slivka. Bartley. Swanson. Kamberi and Shaw.
That's a team that SHOULD, COMFORTABLY, be beating one of the lowest ranked teams in the euro qualifiers.
And to be honest, isn't much, if any worse than the team that lost on pens to Brondby. We've a core that's played together for a while so aren't heading in with players who haven't played together before.
Relax, the club will be making moves in the market. We've 4 weeks until we should be facing a tough challenge from Greece. I'm confident we'll have our primary targets in by then
blackpoolhibs
28-06-2018, 07:55 AM
There seems to be a bit of panicking over what has and not happened yet in this transfer window. Now far be it for me to put them down, but a bit of realism is needed here.
It is still early, we will bring players in, that is a given. Who leaves and comes back from last season is not done or settled yet, but those who do leave will be replaced, and those who might come back will be great.
As for Europe, i'm not worried about this at all, we might get emptied by this team from the Faroes, but as i said im not worried about this.
I want us to be a club who participate in Europe every season, but to do this we must get a team together who either win that cup again, or as i'd prefer, win that place through our league position.
And to do this, we must recruit the right players, and they take time.
Now as i said, we might get emptied, although i dont think we will with what we currently have. We need to look after our league position first, and build a side thats will regularly finish 4th or better is the way forward to having a team that might do better in Europe.
We were asked by the club for patience while the infrastructure was put in place, we have done that, and are starting to see the fruits of this, Europe is the next step, but we still have work to do on the team for this to work, and regular qualification for this needs a strong domestic league season.
We need about 4 players if Dylan does not come back, SJM leaves and Allan and McLaren dont return.
Until we see how this all pans out, i wont be reaching for the washing machine yet, and of course if they did all leave, as i said, they will be replaced, and the money we get from the sale of SJM will make things easier for Lennon.
SirDavidsNapper
28-06-2018, 08:23 AM
The problem we face is the better we perform the more rebuilding we'll inevitably need to do in summer windows. Our best players will be poached. Dylan, McGinn, Barker, Allan etc are all attracting interest from bigger clubs (Allan playing for Celtic yesterday) which makes it difficult for us. The better we do the harder it becomes. Kamberi was a major coup and whoever did the loan deal with an option to buy needs commended. That might be the way forward for us. We're becoming victims of our own relative success really. What i like about Hibs just now is that we aren't going out and panic buying like Hearts for instance. We're taking our time to get the right players in, the right characters, the right mentality as well as the required ability. I think we're pretty savvy on that front with Lennon, Craig and Dempster. I have nothing but the utmost confidence in out recruitment policy.
Greenworld
28-06-2018, 08:28 AM
Some ITK Celtic people saying in the last hour mcginn not going to Celtic.
he may play vs the faeroe islanders and greeks for us...and béyond ...That's interesting if true about the celtic part .
Might fit in with him moving EPL side rumour I heard yesterday and the post from someone about let the dominoes fall.
I think John moving is key to players coming in .
Oh to be a fly on LD wall
Can someone bug Neil's phone [emoji23][emoji23]
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Smartie
28-06-2018, 08:35 AM
I do think that Neil Lennon may have raised the stakes with his comments about wanting to do something in Europe.
We were always going to get a challenging second tie (with the first one likely to be relatively straightforward but still a banana skin).
The problem we had was the nature of the squad during the second half of last season, with so many players due to leave over this summer. As the transfer window shut in January, it was clear that this summer would be a bit of a re-build.
A summer of re-build and a need for European success don't really go together well.
I can understand folk being a bit anxious - I'm a bit anxious myself. But it is important that we don't sacrifice long term success by panicking in the transfer market in order to get players in to give us a better chance in an early European tie.
Rowan Vine anyone?
sean04
28-06-2018, 08:36 AM
Should be more than enough to deal with the team from the Faroes.
We'll need more than that to beat the Greek team.
I think slivka will become a massive player for us. Only going to get better. Swanson had a bad year off the park, ovb devastated about his mate being killed and was giving time off. Showed near the end of the season he can be a big player for us
SirDavidsNapper
28-06-2018, 08:44 AM
I think slivka will become a massive player for us. Only going to get better. Swanson had a bad year off the park, ovb devastated about his mate being killed and was giving time off. Showed near the end of the season he can be a big player for us
Agree. I think Slivka will have a very good season. I was doubtful of Swanson but was very impressed with him when we turned Celtic over. Also having Gray back will be like a new signing.
IWasThere2016
28-06-2018, 08:48 AM
There seems to be a bit of panicking over what has and not happened yet in this transfer window. Now far be it for me to put them down, but a bit of realism is needed here.
It is still early, we will bring players in, that is a given. Who leaves and comes back from last season is not done or settled yet, but those who do leave will be replaced, and those who might come back will be great.
As for Europe, i'm not worried about this at all, we might get emptied by this team from the Faroes, but as i said im not worried about this.
I want us to be a club who participate in Europe every season, but to do this we must get a team together who either win that cup again, or as i'd prefer, win that place through our league position.
And to do this, we must recruit the right players, and they take time.
Now as i said, we might get emptied, although i dont think we will with what we currently have. We need to look after our league position first, and build a side thats will regularly finish 4th or better is the way forward to having a team that might do better in Europe.
We were asked by the club for patience while the infrastructure was put in place, we have done that, and are starting to see the fruits of this, Europe is the next step, but we still have work to do on the team for this to work, and regular qualification for this needs a strong domestic league season.
We need about 4 players if Dylan does not come back, SJM leaves and Allan and McLaren dont return.
Until we see how this all pans out, i wont be reaching for the washing machine yet, and of course if they did all leave, as i said, they will be replaced, and the money we get from the sale of SJM will make things easier for Lennon.
4 higher earners so replacements should be of quality also..
Nicho87
28-06-2018, 08:50 AM
First competitive game a week on Thursday and we're missing 4 first team players.
Don't panic.
bigwheel
28-06-2018, 08:51 AM
There seems to be a bit of panicking over what has and not happened yet in this transfer window. Now far be it for me to put them down, but a bit of realism is needed here.
It is still early, we will bring players in, that is a given. Who leaves and comes back from last season is not done or settled yet, but those who do leave will be replaced, and those who might come back will be great.
As for Europe, i'm not worried about this at all, we might get emptied by this team from the Faroes, but as i said im not worried about this.
I want us to be a club who participate in Europe every season, but to do this we must get a team together who either win that cup again, or as i'd prefer, win that place through our league position.
And to do this, we must recruit the right players, and they take time.
Now as i said, we might get emptied, although i dont think we will with what we currently have. We need to look after our league position first, and build a side thats will regularly finish 4th or better is the way forward to having a team that might do better in Europe.
We were asked by the club for patience while the infrastructure was put in place, we have done that, and are starting to see the fruits of this, Europe is the next step, but we still have work to do on the team for this to work, and regular qualification for this needs a strong domestic league season.
We need about 4 players if Dylan does not come back, SJM leaves and Allan and McLaren dont return.
Until we see how this all pans out, i wont be reaching for the washing machine yet, and of course if they did all leave, as i said, they will be replaced, and the money we get from the sale of SJM will make things easier for Lennon.
I agree with most of this, but what's the use of getting into Europe if we have nowhere near our strongest team to compete and we get emptied in the first round? could we learn from Celtic, who now try to get their main deals done before the get into Euro qualifying?
Stevie Reid
28-06-2018, 08:52 AM
This thread stopped being a transfer thread long ago...
130 pages to say “We have signed Kamberi”
Not panicking but slightly concerned that we’ve got 2 players just on trial now when we’ve had all this “quite far along with 2-3” for weeks and weeks. If we even have players on trial...
When you remove the loans we had last season, who haven’t returned, plus Bell and McGeouch, our squad is threadbare and we have European matches very shortly.
Just get the impression that we may be seeing Europe as a nice wee bonus that we’ll see what happens with what we have for the moment...hope I’m wrong.
Come on get our midfield sorted at least! McGeouch coming or going, McGinn going? Arguably our best players...
Kamberi was a trialist in January.
rotherhamrob
28-06-2018, 08:58 AM
I think slivka will become a massive player for us. Only going to get better. Swanson had a bad year off the park, ovb devastated about his mate being killed and was giving time off. Showed near the end of the season he can be a big player for us
I agree with you on both slivka and swanson,however there were opportunities to play Danny more towards the end of the season and neil lennon chose not to,I could be wrong but I get the feeling there's still a bit of a hangover from the stokes incident.
Stevie Reid
28-06-2018, 09:00 AM
I agree with most of this, but what's the use of getting into Europe if we have nowhere near our strongest team to compete and we get emptied in the first round? could we learn from Celtic, who now try to get their main deals done before the get into Euro qualifying?
The point is that our major targets most likely won't care about the fact that our season starts much earlier than many others due to Europe, there is still ages to go in the transfer window and to secure people now may take us offering higher wages than we can afford. Yes it would be nice if everyone could sign on before our first competitive game, but as long as our transfer window goes on until the end of August, that just won't happen - there's still 2/3 of the window to go. Lennon and Leeann have already secured our most important signing of the summer, but that was done due to a time limit on an option we had.
We don't need a major rebuild, just to augment the quality that's already there - and that definitely will happen. What's the need for panic? To amend your argument, what's the point of getting into Europe if supporters are going to get stressed out about it as opposed to excited? It's insane.
Relax and enjoy yourself. We've come a hell of a long way in 4 years, and we're stronger with every passing season. Quality is worth waiting for, and it will come.
bigwheel
28-06-2018, 09:02 AM
The point is that our major targets most likely won't care about the fact that our season starts much earlier than many others due to Europe, there is still ages to go in the transfer window and to secure people now may take us offering higher wages than we can afford. Yes it would be nice if everyone could sign on before our first competitive game, but as long as our transfer window goes on until the end of August, that just won't happen - there's still 2/3 of the window to go. Lennon and Leeann have already secured our most important signing of the summer, but that was done due to a time limit on an option we had.
We don't need a major rebuild, just to augment the quality that's already there - and that definitely will happen. What's the need for panic? To amend your argument, what's the point of getting into Europe if supporters are going to get stressed out about it as opposed to excited? It's insane.
Relax and enjoy yourself. We've come a hell of a long way in 4 years, and we're stronger with every passing season. Quality is worth waiting for, and it will come.
was just a reflection / question ? No panic here
Tbh. I like to take the summer off too - fitba starts too early these days for me ....
Stevie Reid
28-06-2018, 09:05 AM
was just a reflection / question ? No panic here
Tbh. I like to take the summer off too - fitba starts too early these days for me ....
Haha, fair enough man :aok:
My post was more at the general panic as opposed to yourself in particular.
jiggerman
28-06-2018, 09:17 AM
This thread is so long I’ve missed who we have on trial?
Callum_62
28-06-2018, 09:17 AM
First competitive game a week on Thursday and we're missing 4 first team players.
Don't panic.
so 2 weeks today? :greengrin
Paloschi
28-06-2018, 09:28 AM
so 2 weeks today? :greengrin
Yeah, no need to panic. Farid will be back in training by then.
Speedway
28-06-2018, 09:28 AM
10 Step Panicking Guide For Beginners
1. ‘Where’s all the signings?’
2. ‘We won’t be ready’
3. ‘Team x have signed y players already’
4. ‘We won the league cup in 2007, we must have millions in the bank’
5. ‘We’ve obviously missed out on our main targets due to penny pinching’
6. ‘STF is clearly bleeding the club dry’
7. ‘Record STs we must be sat on millions’
8. ‘Trialists?!?!?!?’
9. ‘All the Euro money we’ll earn, we must be sat on millions’
10. *player signs* ‘well done to all at the club. Just goes to show that patience pays off.’
SaulGoodman
28-06-2018, 09:36 AM
10 Step Panicking Guide For Beginners
1. ‘Where’s all the signings?’
2. ‘We won’t be ready’
3. ‘Team x have signed y players already’
4. ‘We won the league cup in 2007, we must have millions in the bank’
5. ‘We’ve obviously missed out on our main targets due to penny pinching’
6. ‘STF is clearly bleeding the club dry’
7. ‘Record STs we must be sat on millions’
8. ‘Trialists?!?!?!?’
9. ‘All the Euro money we’ll earn, we must be sat on millions’
10. *player signs* ‘well done to all at the club. Just goes to show that patience pays off.’
And then repeat a week later
BOB MARLEYS DUG
28-06-2018, 09:37 AM
10 Step Panicking Guide For Beginners
1. ‘Where’s all the signings?’
2. ‘We won’t be ready’
3. ‘Team x have signed y players already’
4. ‘We won the league cup in 2007, we must have millions in the bank’
5. ‘We’ve obviously missed out on our main targets due to penny pinching’
6. ‘STF is clearly bleeding the club dry’
7. ‘Record STs we must be sat on millions’
8. ‘Trialists?!?!?!?’
9. ‘All the Euro money we’ll earn, we must be sat on millions’
10. *player signs* ‘well done to all at the club. Just goes to show that patience pays off.’
😂😂😂👏🏼👏🏼
blackpoolhibs
28-06-2018, 09:54 AM
I agree with most of this, but what's the use of getting into Europe if we have nowhere near our strongest team to compete and we get emptied in the first round? could we learn from Celtic, who now try to get their main deals done before the get into Euro qualifying?
Its our first foray into Europe by our league position in years, and when we normally qualify its then years until we do so again.
I'd rather wait until we qualify regularly by having a strong side that finishes at least 4th before i have a go at the team on European success.
A strong consistent Hibs domestically, should in the end give us a better chance in Europe, and that means bringing in players we want, not bringing in big numbers each season.
And then repeat a week later
Not every week every day or hour as .net goes [emoji85]
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bigwheel
28-06-2018, 10:01 AM
Its our first foray into Europe by our league position in years, and when we normally qualify its then years until we do so again.
I'd rather wait until we qualify regularly by having a strong side that finishes at least 4th before i have a go at the team on European success.
A strong consistent Hibs domestically, should in the end give us a better chance in Europe, and that means bringing in players we want, not bringing in big numbers each season.
Think is is fair tbh - once we are more regularly qualifying we can start getting ready earlier...but league competitiveness has to be our focus these days ...
Michael
28-06-2018, 10:01 AM
10 Step Panicking Guide For Beginners
1. ‘Where’s all the signings?’
2. ‘We won’t be ready’
3. ‘Team x have signed y players already’
4. ‘We won the league cup in 2007, we must have millions in the bank’
5. ‘We’ve obviously missed out on our main targets due to penny pinching’
6. ‘STF is clearly bleeding the club dry’
7. ‘Record STs we must be sat on millions’
8. ‘Trialists?!?!?!?’
9. ‘All the Euro money we’ll earn, we must be sat on millions’
10. *player signs* ‘well done to all at the club. Just goes to show that patience pays off.’
Number 4 is a belter.
ElginHibbie
28-06-2018, 10:05 AM
Its our first foray into Europe by our league position in years, and when we normally qualify its then years until we do so again.
I'd rather wait until we qualify regularly by having a strong side that finishes at least 4th before i have a go at the team on European success.
A strong consistent Hibs domestically, should in the end give us a better chance in Europe, and that means bringing in players we want, not bringing in big numbers each season.
:agree:
Believe LD said that us qualifying for Europe this season was being 'ahead of schedule' in terms of the vision for the club, we shouldn't be chucking out that vision to make quick signings for maybe an extra qualifying round when it could mean struggling more in the league
jacomo
28-06-2018, 10:13 AM
I don’t know how far advanced we are, but no matter how far advanced we are they’re still not signed and part of the squad yet. We have a European game in 2 weeks which everyone seems to be taking for granted we’ll stroll through, but we most likely won’t because Scottish teams very rarely do.
We play all season for this to be the prize and our preparation for these games is far from ideal, be it because the players we bring in won’t have had much of a pre season training with Hibs or the players might not even be signed at all by that point.
If we have to put out a make shift team in Europe and end up going out I’ll be very disappointed and I’m going to hazard a guess Lennon would be absolutely furious at the board seeing as he’s aiming for the group stages.
You’ve persuaded me.
Let’s sign half a dozen journeymen in the next week that no one else wants.
Hibeesmad
28-06-2018, 10:20 AM
Bristol City have sold two players which has brought in around £17 million. Wonder if they will potentially have a go for McGinn
BegbieHSC
28-06-2018, 10:20 AM
THIS IS NOT A BEDWETTING POST
It may however encourage some - Celtic had a friendly yesterday, which Scott Allan started, and seemingly put in a MOTM performance. Getting his praises sung anyway. Fwiw, I think we’ll still sign him, but probably not as easily as we’d have liked, as let’s face it - he’s a fantastic wee player!
Heisenberg
28-06-2018, 10:36 AM
THIS IS NOT A BEDWETTING POST
It may however encourage some - Celtic had a friendly yesterday, which Scott Allan started, and seemingly put in a MOTM performance. Getting his praises sung anyway. Fwiw, I think we’ll still sign him, but probably not as easily as we’d have liked, as let’s face it - he’s a fantastic wee player!
Don’t think he started. Sure I saw he came off the bench for the second half with some other fringe players/youngsters.
BegbieHSC
28-06-2018, 10:41 AM
Don’t think he started. Sure I saw he came off the bench for the second half with some other fringe players/youngsters.
Fair enough. Assumed he did given the praise he got. As I’ve said, confident he’ll sign, but it’s definitely worth remembering given his quality, it’s not a foregone conclusion. Grafting is necessary.
happiehibbie
28-06-2018, 10:43 AM
Although i would like to see some activity bringing in a player or 2 have we sold SJM or has the fans decided not to pick him for the European tie.
Hibbyradge
28-06-2018, 10:48 AM
First competitive game a week on Thursday and we're missing 4 first team players.
Don't panic.
Will fans panicking help?
makaveli1875
28-06-2018, 10:49 AM
Not panicking yet but thought we'd have at least 1 more in this week
Fair enough. Assumed he did given the praise he got. As I’ve said, confident he’ll sign, but it’s definitely worth remembering given his quality, it’s not a foregone conclusion. Grafting is necessary.
There is a fair number of Celtic fans who don't want them to sign McGinn as they believe he isn't good enough for them. I can't imagine them being satisfied with Scott Allan regardless of how good he plays in pre-season.
He also has guys like Ntcham, Rogic, McGregor, Kouassi, Brown, Morgan & Christie to compete with for a space in their midfield. He is way way down the pecking order and will get nowhere near the first team this season if he stays at Celtic.
Speedway
28-06-2018, 10:59 AM
There is a fair number of Celtic fans who don't want them to sign McGinn as they believe he isn't good enough for them. I can't imagine them being satisfied with Scott Allan regardless of how good he plays in pre-season.
He also has guys like Ntcham, Rogic, McGregor, Kouassi, Brown, Morgan & Christie to compete with for a space in their midfield. He is way way down the pecking order and will get nowhere near the first team this season if he stays at Celtic.
That for me is the crux and an unpopular view of mine.
Why has SJM been the subject of attention for the last 3 windows st least but no-one has really tested Hibs resolve?
Because SJM isn’t actually all that S.
Brightside
28-06-2018, 11:05 AM
Don’t think he started. Sure I saw he came off the bench for the second half with some other fringe players/youngsters.
All outfield players were replaced at HT. Scott was in the 2nd lot that came on.
Shrekko
28-06-2018, 11:08 AM
That for me is the crux and an unpopular view of mine.
Why has SJM been the subject of attention for the last 3 windows st least but no-one has really tested Hibs resolve?
Because SJM isn’t actually all that S.
You’ll realise how good he is when he’s not here.
Absolutely fantastic player with an attitude that’s second to none in my opinion. He’ll be worth a fortune soon.
Bob Box Fish
28-06-2018, 11:13 AM
John Mcginn is a fantastic player, I think if he scored more goals there would be more attention. We would miss him loads regardless.
McGinn is a very good player but can overdo or try just too hard at times to the detriment of his game, if he goes to Celtic he's not guaranteed to be a starter
Blaster
28-06-2018, 11:18 AM
McGinn is a very good player but can overdo or try just too hard at times to the detriment of his game, if he goes to Celtic he's not guaranteed to be a starter
Like Scott Brown when he left Hibs you mean?
porthibbie
28-06-2018, 11:24 AM
Like Scott Brown when he left Hibs you mean?
I hear that Cardiff to offer 3 Million for Wind ASS ,,, What does that make SJM worth ..
keep the faith
28-06-2018, 11:26 AM
McGinn is a very good player but can overdo or try just too hard at times to the detriment of his game, if he goes to Celtic he's not guaranteed to be a starter
When did Celtic become this mega side?? Loads on here seem to think mcginn and Allan could never get a game there.
Both are cracking players and could easily shine with that lot. Hopefully that won't be the case though and we will see them in hibs jerseys next year.
Stevie Reid
28-06-2018, 11:26 AM
That for me is the crux and an unpopular view of mine.
Why has SJM been the subject of attention for the last 3 windows st least but no-one has really tested Hibs resolve?
Because SJM isn’t actually all that S.
I absolutely love McGinn, but a lot of Hibs fans rate him a lot more than I do.
Stevie Reid
28-06-2018, 11:27 AM
I hear that Cardiff to offer 3 Million for Wind ASS ,,, What does that make SJM worth ..
Windass has very good scoring ratios, which adds a lot of value.
My_Wife_Camille
28-06-2018, 11:37 AM
First competitive game a week on Thursday and we're missing 4 first team players.
Don't panic.
Change your pants. We’ll pump a mid table Faroese team by double figures over the two legs with or without any new signings
JimboHibs
28-06-2018, 11:47 AM
I hear that Cardiff to offer 3 Million for Wind ASS ,,, What does that make SJM worth ..
Do you mean Windass ?
SirDavidsNapper
28-06-2018, 11:47 AM
Change your pants. We’ll pump a mid table Faroese team by double figures over the two legs with or without any new signings
I think they'll be better than we expect. Sure they drew with Fulham a few years back
SquashedFrogg
28-06-2018, 11:49 AM
Windass has very good scoring ratios, which adds a lot of value.
It does when you are played as an attacking midfielder who is expected to score goals.
My_Wife_Camille
28-06-2018, 11:51 AM
I think they'll be better than we expect. Sure they drew with Fulham a few years back
I think they’ll be a giant honking toley
SirDavidsNapper
28-06-2018, 11:51 AM
I think they’ll be a giant honking toley
I hope you're right!
ancient hibee
28-06-2018, 11:52 AM
When did Celtic become this mega side?? Loads on here seem to think mcginn and Allan could never get a game there.
Both are cracking players and could easily shine with that lot. Hopefully that won't be the case though and we will see them in hibs jerseys next year.
But Allan can't get a game there which surely knocks a hole in your argument.More than happy to see him get a game for us.
Borderhibbie76
28-06-2018, 11:54 AM
I don't get people having a go at posters for saying They expected a couple of more new faces in by now. If we are being honest we probably all expected 1 or 2 more in by now....Even our manager said he wanted the majority of the business done by time we returned for pre-season training. For whatever reasons it hasn't worked out that way yet.
Personally I am not panicking and trust the board to get the business done but there is no need to have a go at posters voicing their concern...it is a forum after all and I don't see anybody overreacting - just a bit of disappointment we haven't announced any further signings since Flo.
I believe the SJM and Dylan situations are impacting our business - A deadline for Dylan needs to be given fairly soon. He is a fantastic wee player who id love to see back but we can't wait around forever on him that's for sure. SJM is trickier as it's all down to who bids for him if anybody....but I feel pretty certain this is holding up our transfer business a bit.
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Stuart93
28-06-2018, 11:58 AM
I hear that Cardiff to offer 3 Million for Wind ASS ,,, What does that make SJM worth ..
Don't you know if you play for Celtic or the rangers your value doubles supposedly
The_Horde
28-06-2018, 12:06 PM
I think they'll be better than we expect. Sure they drew with Fulham a few years back
The Fulham that got relegated.
Brondby beat Hertha Berlin 3-1.. We beat Brondby 1-0..
Are we better than Hertha Berlin?
SirDavidsNapper
28-06-2018, 12:08 PM
Really excited about this season. Our current squad would still be good enough for 4th i reckon. IF, IF we get Allan back, keep SJM and add 2 or 3 more i think we could overhall Aberdeen and potentially make a final. Rangers are a strange one. I'd expect them to be better but who knows, could go either way. Hearts are assembling a squad to see them scrape into the bottom six and i'd be surprised if Killie were as good again. Very exciting times.
Smartie
28-06-2018, 12:09 PM
McGinn is a very good player but can overdo or try just too hard at times to the detriment of his game, if he goes to Celtic he's not guaranteed to be a starter
McGinn makes the odd mistake, he's not perfect.
He is still absolutely brilliant though.
I remember noticing that even the great Franck Sauzee had a habit of giving the ball away from time to time, normally because he was trying to play football in a congested midfield, just the same way that McGinn does.
He'll be very hard indeed to replace when he goes. I can't actually believe we managed to get him to come to us in the First Division in the first place.
Jim44
28-06-2018, 12:23 PM
I don't get people having a go at posters for saying They expected a couple of more new faces in by now. If we are being honest we probably all expected 1 or 2 more in by now....Even our manager said he wanted the majority of the business done by time we returned for pre-season training. For whatever reasons it hasn't worked out that way yet.
Personally I am not panicking and trust the board to get the business done but there is no need to have a go at posters voicing their concern...it is a forum after all and I don't see anybody overreacting - just a bit of disappointment we haven't announced any further signings since Flo.
I believe the SJM and Dylan situations are impacting our business - A deadline for Dylan needs to be given fairly soon. He is a fantastic wee player who id love to see back but we can't wait around forever on him that's for sure. SJM is trickier as it's all down to who bids for him if anybody....but I feel pretty certain this is holding up our transfer business a bit.
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:agree: In my opinion, if it wasn’t for the Kamberi factor, this place would be nearing meltdown by now. The deafening silence on certain important players is starting to irritate a lot of folk, but all we really can do is to trust Lennon and Dempster to deal with the situation, whatever happens.
Hibbyradge
28-06-2018, 12:25 PM
McGinn makes the odd mistake, he's not perfect.
Neymar makes mistakes and he's worth hundreds of squillions of euros.
It's what players do right and better than others that's valuable.
IncredibleHibee
28-06-2018, 12:28 PM
I’m really excited to see Slivka get games this season. I think he will score a lot of goals. To me he is sheer class. With a quiet transfer season so far he could be like a new player if played regularly
SquashedFrogg
28-06-2018, 12:31 PM
:agree: In my opinion, if it wasn’t for the Kamberi factor, this place would be nearing meltdown by now. The deafening silence on certain important players is starting to irritate a lot of folk, but all we really can do is to trust Lennon and Dempster to deal with the situation, whatever happens.
People just need to relax a bit. It's pre-season. Enjoy the world cup, enjoy the sunshine, enjoy life.... It'll all be fine in the end :agree:
SirDavidsNapper
28-06-2018, 12:31 PM
Neymar makes mistakes and he's worth hundreds of squillions of euros.
It's what players do right and better than others that's valuable.
:agree: Don't mind the odd mistake. It means he's trying something creative. Won't always come off. Rather that than passing sideways to the nearest man all the time. I think John has been fantastic for us. Enjoyed watching him.
SirDavidsNapper
28-06-2018, 12:32 PM
I’m really excited to see Slivka get games this season. I think he will score a lot of goals. To me he is sheer class. With a quiet transfer season so far he could be like a new player if played regularly
Agreed. I think Slivka, Swanson and Gray will be like three new signings. Bring on the first game.
MWHIBBIES
28-06-2018, 12:35 PM
Agreed. I think Slivka, Swanson and Gray will be like three new signings. Bring on the first game.
I can't see Gray playing often. Ambrose is better at right back and our best formation is 352.
Michael
28-06-2018, 12:39 PM
I can't see Gray playing often. Ambrose is better at right back and our best formation is 352.
Don't think Ambrose is great at right back. His crossing is brutal.
Winston Ingram
28-06-2018, 12:50 PM
Like Scott Brown when he left Hibs you mean?
Nothing like that at all. Pretty sure it was the second highest fee they'd ever paid for a play at the time. He was always going to be a starter for them and that's exactly how it proved.
bookert
28-06-2018, 12:51 PM
I can't see Gray playing often. Ambrose is better at right back and our best formation is 352.
I like ambrose as a centre back, but I remember him playing right back against Aberdeen. Gms his winger scored three and made one. Don't think I'd want to see that experiment repeated.
Earlydelivery
28-06-2018, 01:27 PM
McGinn is the heartbeat of our team ... plain and simple.
Stuart93
28-06-2018, 01:28 PM
I like ambrose as a centre back, but I remember him playing right back against Aberdeen. Gms his winger scored three and made one. Don't think I'd want to see that experiment repeated.
He played plenty times at right back after that and was solid
Northern Hibby
28-06-2018, 01:28 PM
Agreed. I think Slivka, Swanson and Gray will be like three new signings. Bring on the first game.
sounds good, time for theses guys to step up, all 3 we know have the ability .
matty_f
28-06-2018, 01:41 PM
Reasonable chance of something concluded before the weekend, I'm told.
SteveHFC
28-06-2018, 01:42 PM
Reasonable chance of something concluded before the weekend, I'm told.
:hyper
AgentDaleCooper
28-06-2018, 01:47 PM
Reasonable chance of something concluded before the weekend, I'm told.
R.e. us signing someone, or someone leaving?
Springbank
28-06-2018, 01:47 PM
Marciano
Porteous
Hanlon
McGregor/Ambrose*
Ambrose*/Boyle
Bartley
Slivka/Swanson
McGinn
Stevenson
Kamberi
Shaw/Murray
*depending on if we play Efe at the back or on the right, in a 3 or a 4
Greenworld
28-06-2018, 01:47 PM
Reasonable chance of something concluded before the weekend, I'm told.With whom [emoji38]
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Bob Box Fish
28-06-2018, 01:58 PM
Reasonable chance of something concluded before the weekend, I'm told.
East mains shunky cleaner had her temp contract made permenant now we have hit 13000 season tickets ?
Green Badger
28-06-2018, 02:02 PM
East mains shunky cleaner had her temp contract made permenant now we have hit 13000 season tickets ?
Maybe not. Think Jack Ross has been linked with a late bid.
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