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Stevie Reid
19-06-2018, 12:17 PM
Yams just re-signed milinkovic. Probably their best signing of the window but seen as it’s a guy they had last year and finished 18 points behind I’m not concerned.


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Decent goal return for them, but he only managed 16 starts in a whole season. Took him a while to break into the team, and seemed to have a few injuries also.

Probably is decent, though I'm surprised they seem to have shelled out a bit for him. Hearts fans seem to think he is a huge signing - I think his social media postings about hating us have gone a long way with them too.

Archie70
19-06-2018, 12:23 PM
A Budgie statement coming up that stand finish date has been put back to 2022! :greengrin

Will that not be bringing it forward!!!

Thecat23
19-06-2018, 12:32 PM
You definitely know & I definitely feel coming to ER is the best long term option for him, up to you now to do your persuasive best to help him make that correct decision :greengrin

Haha I don’t think he’ll be coming if I’m being honest.

Brightside
19-06-2018, 12:33 PM
We always seem to be quite slow of the mark when it comes to signings


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:rolleyes:

Callum_62
19-06-2018, 12:39 PM
:rolleyes:

dont know why the roll eyes - I believe we were either 2nd last, or last team in our league to sign anyone (think we just nipped infront of Celtic)

Brightside
19-06-2018, 12:44 PM
dont know why the roll eyes - I believe we were either 2nd last, or last team in our league to sign anyone (think we just nipped infront of Celtic)

So what. Do you want it done right or do you want us just buying a bunch of random players.....as thats what happening at others clubs. We have priorities and we are working through them in the correct manner.

Lago
19-06-2018, 12:55 PM
Haha I don’t think he’ll be coming if I’m being honest.
Oh well tell him I think he should :greengrin:greengrin

MacGruber
19-06-2018, 01:04 PM
Yams just re-signed milinkovic. Probably their best signing of the window but seen as it’s a guy they had last year and finished 18 points behind I’m not concerned.


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Am I alone in thinking he is pretty average. A few good games a few goals as many poor games. More of a reputation for trying to self promote himself with no shame on social media to detract from the fact he isnt going to be making a name for himself on the pitch.
Most Jambos i know wanted all their players to re-sign, the ones out of contract and on loan. I would have thought they would have wanted to go a different direction seeing as how they were predominantly rank last season and finished 18 points behind us. Each to their own i suppose

Speedway
19-06-2018, 01:07 PM
We always seem to be quite slow of the mark when it comes to signings


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Our first signing last summer was made before the season ended.

Big_Franck
19-06-2018, 01:16 PM
Decent goal return for them, but he only managed 16 starts in a whole season. Took him a while to break into the team, and seemed to have a few injuries also.

Probably is decent, though I'm surprised they seem to have shelled out a bit for him. Hearts fans seem to think he is a huge signing - I think his social media postings about hating us have gone a long way with them too.

As always with the saviles that has a huge bearing on their opinion of the player. He did nothing against us and didn't look great any other time I saw him.

He wasn't even a guaranteed starter for them in a side that struggled to sneak in to the top 6 so is no world beater.

Just noticed they've also signed up Aaron Hughes for another season. What a team they are putting together :tee hee:

Borderhibbie76
19-06-2018, 01:21 PM
Think he said that he wanted a couple in before we came back but most of the work would be completed when pre season started. Plenty time yet.Plenty time yes before league starts but Europe is 3 weeks on Thurs

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The Modfather
19-06-2018, 01:25 PM
Still plenty of time left to get the signings we need. That being said, Lennon and the recruitment team still have it all to prove. IMO we had two poor windows in the championship and not a great one last summer. With January exceeding all expectations.

Hopefully the January window is more like the norm.

Stevie Reid
19-06-2018, 01:43 PM
Still plenty of time left to get the signings we need. That being said, Lennon and the recruitment team still have it all to prove. IMO we had two poor windows in the championship and not a great one last summer. With January exceeding all expectations.

Hopefully the January window is more like the norm.

In what way was last summer not great?

supermcginn
19-06-2018, 01:45 PM
In what way was last summer not great?

3 of the strikers signed were bombed out in the next window.

Stevie Reid
19-06-2018, 01:46 PM
3 of the strikers signed were bombed out in the next window.

Two of them after scoring 25 goals between them in half a season.

Callum_62
19-06-2018, 02:00 PM
So what. Do you want it done right or do you want us just buying a bunch of random players.....as thats what happening at others clubs. We have priorities and we are working through them in the correct manner.

Its still slow of the mark compared to the rest of the league

Lennon said he wanted a few in before pre seasons - we have 1

Im sure they same thing has happened for few seasons now too

Im not overly concerned at this point, be nice to get 2 or so more done fairly swiftly though

The Modfather
19-06-2018, 02:04 PM
In what way was last summer not great?

Swanson & Big Dave contributed almost nothing. Slivka, who I don’t think is a bad player, never really got going.

I’m not convinced by Whittaker but happy to concede he was a good squad player with his versatility. Barker doesn’t score enough or set up enough goals but I really like him.

Stokes and Murray were both shipped out in January.

Ambrose and Marciano were here the previous season, but both a success nonetheless.

People see players differently, so you may not agree with all of the above. I class it as poor-ish window as until January we had exactly the same problems as the previous season. Lost too many cheap goals and didn’t score enough, that was rectified in January.

supermcginn
19-06-2018, 02:12 PM
Two of them after scoring 25 goals between them in half a season.

13 league goals between the 3 of them.

truehibernian
19-06-2018, 02:21 PM
People really need to relax, signings are going to be made and the squad will have real quality added to it prior to the season starting. I think a fair few are fretting because over the road are doing their usual bulk buying routine. Relax a wee bit.

Stevie Reid
19-06-2018, 02:25 PM
Swanson & Big Dave contributed almost nothing. Slivka, who I don’t think is a bad player, never really got going.

I’m not convinced by Whittaker but happy to concede he was a good squad player with his versatility. Barker doesn’t score enough or set up enough goals but I really like him.

Stokes and Murray were both shipped out in January.

Ambrose and Marciano were here the previous season, but both a success nonetheless.

People see players differently, so you may not agree with all of the above. I class it as poor-ish window as until January we had exactly the same problems as the previous season. Lost too many cheap goals and didn’t score enough, that was rectified in January.

Swanson had injury problems, and we know the deal with the court case - he didn't help himself in Portugal, certainly. He still made 21 appearances, and certainly didn't contribute almost nothing. His performance against Celtic when he came in for Scott Allan was superb.

Slivka also had major injury problems, but despite that he had some very big performances and scored away at Ibrox and the winner at home to Celtic. Whittaker also was hampered by injury, but played 31 times and scored important goals at either end of the season. Barker was a resounding success, and one of the most exciting players I've seen at Hibs for a long time. Rocky and Efe were excellent additions.

Murray was moved on as part of a complex deal - he scored 14 goals for us, including away at Ibrox and the winner in the derby, and certainly wasn't a failure. Just because we managed to improve our situation in January, it doesn't mean what went before was unsuccessful. You only get two shots at it each season.

Stokes has to go down as a failure because of his behaviour, but he still scored 11 before he went. Big Davy is the only completely unsuccessful one for us.

When the January window opened we were five points clear in fourth, had lost only 5 of 22 league games, and got to the League Cup semi final. We had scored 54 goals in 29 competitive matches. We improved even further in January, but - and whilst people do see some things differently - I can't see how the summer window was in any way poor.

Borderhibbie76
19-06-2018, 02:25 PM
People really need to relax, signings are going to be made and the squad will have real quality added to it prior to the season starting. I think a fair few are fretting because over the road are doing their usual bulk buying routine. Relax a wee bit.I don't think anyone is panicking mate...but our season kicks off in 3 weeks time and at the moment we have 1 new signing in the door...if we are hoping to take Europe seriously that needs to change in next few weeks. I don't see anybody panicking...just commenting

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Smartie
19-06-2018, 02:26 PM
People really need to relax, signings are going to be made and the squad will have real quality added to it prior to the season starting. I think a fair few are fretting because over the road are doing their usual bulk buying routine. Relax a wee bit.

I think the main reason for concern is the number of players who we lost that did the business for us during the second half of last season.

It's not long until our first competitive game, and it would be nice to get a strong team out. I'm actually surprised how strong our team can look with the players we have already contracted, but we definitely need a few more.

Regarding that lot over the road - Malinkovic is a good player, so they've made one good signing, the same number as us so far. Only we haven't even really started........

Stevie Reid
19-06-2018, 02:29 PM
13 league goals between the 3 of them.

Big Davy was a failure, no question.

Stokes hit 7 league goals in 15 starts - Murray was 6 in 17.

Just because we improved on them, it doesn't mean that they were bad.

J-C
19-06-2018, 02:38 PM
Swanson had injury problems, and we know the deal with the court case - he didn't help himself in Portugal, certainly. He still made 21 appearances, and certainly didn't contribute almost nothing. His performance against Celtic when he came in for Scott Allan was superb.

Slivka also had major injury problems, but despite that he had some very big performances and scored away at Ibrox and the winner at home to Celtic. Whittaker also was hampered by injury, but played 31 times and scored important goals at either end of the season. Barker was a resounding success, and one of the most exciting players I've seen at Hibs for a long time. Rocky and Efe were excellent additions.

Murray was moved on as part of a complex deal - he scored 14 goals for us, including away at Ibrox and the winner in the derby, and certainly wasn't a failure. Just because we managed to improve our situation in January, it doesn't mean what went before was unsuccessful. You only get two shots at it each season.

Stokes has to go down as a failure because of his behaviour, but he still scored 11 before he went. Big Davy is the only completely unsuccessful one for us.

When the January window opened we were five points clear in fourth, had lost only 5 of 22 league games, and got to the League Cup semi final. We had scored 54 goals in 29 competitive matches. We improved even further in January, but - and whilst people do see some things differently - I can't see how the summer window was in any way poor.


I can see both sides of the argument here, Stokes was a huge gamble due to his previous at other clubs, we seen how that turned out, caused a lot of problems within the squad. Murray was a project that started off looking like an inspired piece of business but then Lennon soon realised he wasn't good enough for where we needed to be. Swanson we all know had personal problems but had probably 2 decent games for us near the end of the season. Barker flattered to deceive all too often and his end piece was generally poor, still young and will get better but final balls may have given us more points. Big Davy was a waste of a wage, came as an Internationalist bust showed nothing. Slivka I like had a few wee niggly injuries which hampered his season but looks confident on the ball and I hope he gets more game time this season. Whittaker is starting to show his age, decent cover but 3 years was 2 too many, unless he's thinking of learning and doing his coaching badges, there was talk of him being on not a lot of wages.

So some good, some not so good and a couple of ok's, 6/10 to Lennon and his staff for last summers window.

Gibby the Hibby
19-06-2018, 02:54 PM
Am I alone in thinking he is pretty average. A few good games a few goals as many poor games. More of a reputation for trying to self promote himself with no shame on social media to detract from the fact he isnt going to be making a name for himself on the pitch.
Most Jambos i know wanted all their players to re-sign, the ones out of contract and on loan. I would have thought they would have wanted to go a different direction seeing as how they were predominantly rank last season and finished 18 points behind us. Each to their own i suppose

I think he is a decent player, and looking at the yam squad, he has to be one of the best they have, so can understand them signing him

I read they are paying installments, 3 x 100k, but was hardly from a site Id trust., but they were quoted 600k originally, so maybe sounds about rite

all in all, Id have rather he didnt sign for them. I just cant see them doing much better this season, they seem to be just signing anyone to make up the numbers, we know only too well how that ends! Just hope they dont get a decent striker,
but he would need service even if they did.. and they are *****

SHODAN
19-06-2018, 02:56 PM
Our problem for Europe isn't the strikeforce, it's the midfield. Kamberi and Shaw may well end up being our preferred front two, but we need to get at least one of Malallan signed up before our first competitive game.

Slim Shady
19-06-2018, 02:57 PM
If slivka can play like he did against Sevco last game of season then he will be like a new signing.

Smartie
19-06-2018, 03:00 PM
Our problem for Europe isn't the strikeforce, it's the midfield. Kamberi and Shaw may well end up being our preferred front two, but we need to get at least one of Malallan signed up before our first competitive game.

Any of Slivka, McGinn, Swanson and Bartley would be fine. Then we've got the likes of Whittaker, Stevenson or Hanlon who have played there before.

We lack depth though, and if any of our recognised midfielders got injured we could be in trouble.

Callum_62
19-06-2018, 03:03 PM
Just hope they dont get a decent striker,
but he would need service even if they did.. and they are *****

They already have a more than decent striker


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Stevie Reid
19-06-2018, 03:13 PM
Motherwell sign Aaron Taylor-Sinclair:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44538556

Vault Boy
19-06-2018, 03:15 PM
Motherwell sign Aaron Taylor-Sinclair:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44538556

Would have liked us to go for him. Good signing.

Real Emerald
19-06-2018, 03:55 PM
I don’t get the Scott Allan situation either, are we trying to sign him or not? If we are them why can’t it just get done and get him in for pre season in preparation for the Europa games? All parties seem to be alluding to Hibs being his destination so why isn’t it happening now? We strive for years to qualify for Europe and yet every time we qualify we’re never ready. There surely can’t be a huge gap in what Celtic and the player wants and what we’re prepared to pay, or maybe there is.

Hopefully things can start to move along a bit quicker over the coming days and we can see where we’re going with our midfield, which has been our strong area for a while now.

Smartie
19-06-2018, 03:59 PM
I don’t get the Scott Allan situation either, are we trying to sign him or not? If we are them why can’t it just get done and get him in for pre season in preparation for the Europa games? All parties seem to be alluding to Hibs being his destination so why isn’t it happening now? We strive for years to qualify for Europe and yet every time we qualify we’re never ready. There surely can’t be a huge gap in what Celtic and the player wants and what we’re prepared to pay, or maybe there is.

Hopefully things can start to move along a bit quicker over the coming days and we can see where we’re going with our midfield, which has been our strong area for a while now.

None of it is unconditional though.

Celtic will want to extract as much as possible out of Hibs. Allan will want to get as much out of Celtic as possible as he leaves and then as much as possible out of Hibs as he joins.

Hibs will want to give as little as they can get away with to Celtic and to Allan.

Somewhere in the middle will lie a deal that is acceptable to all parties but it is unlikely to happen overnight.

hfc rd
19-06-2018, 04:02 PM
I don’t get the Scott Allan situation either, are we trying to sign him or not? If we are them why can’t it just get done and get him in for pre season in preparation for the Europa games? All parties seem to be alluding to Hibs being his destination so why isn’t it happening now? We strive for years to qualify for Europe and yet every time we qualify we’re never ready. There surely can’t be a huge gap in what Celtic and the player wants and what we’re prepared to pay, or maybe there is.

Hopefully things can start to move along a bit quicker over the coming days and we can see where we’re going with our midfield, which has been our strong area for a while now.


There be lots of things happening behind the scenes that we won’t know about. The Allan deal might hinge on them getting McGinn.

bingo70
19-06-2018, 04:02 PM
I don’t get the Scott Allan situation either, are we trying to sign him or not? If we are them why can’t it just get done and get him in for pre season in preparation for the Europa games? All parties seem to be alluding to Hibs being his destination so why isn’t it happening now? We strive for years to qualify for Europe and yet every time we qualify we’re never ready. There surely can’t be a huge gap in what Celtic and the player wants and what we’re prepared to pay, or maybe there is.

Hopefully things can start to move along a bit quicker over the coming days and we can see where we’re going with our midfield, which has been our strong area for a while now.

Celtic won’t be easy to deal with at this stage in case they decide to make a move for Mcginn.

I’d imagine they’d currently be valuing him ridiculously highly so if it comes to him making up value in a swap deal it’ll look like they’re offering a high value player.

Real Emerald
19-06-2018, 04:06 PM
None of it is unconditional though.

Celtic will want to extract as much as possible out of Hibs. Allan will want to get as much out of Celtic as possible as he leaves and then as much as possible out of Hibs as he joins.

Hibs will want to give as little as they can get away with to Celtic and to Allan.

Somewhere in the middle will lie a deal that is acceptable to all parties but it is unlikely to happen overnight.

I get all that but we’ve got Europa games coming up and we seem to be very slow in getting things sorted. We always seem to be the ones who struggle to get deals over the line quickly for one reason or another.

Smartie
19-06-2018, 04:11 PM
I get all that but we’ve got Europa games coming up and we seem to be very slow in getting things sorted. We always seem to be the ones who struggle to get deals over the line quickly for one reason or another.

We do, and it is slightly concerning.

The more anyone tries to rush the deal though, the weaker their bargaining position becomes.

If we give way to a poorer deal on this one, we'll have less to spend on the next one.

Our existing squad should be good enough to get through the first tie, which is the most urgent.

We're highly unlikely to get beyond 2 or 3 qualifying rounds of this competition (although I really want us to punch our weight in it at some point). We can't allow our squad for the long, challenging season ahead to be weaker than it needs to be because we've rushed bad deals over the line early in the summer (the same can be said for rushing bad deals through on the last day of the window, which we have a lot of previous for too).

Real Emerald
19-06-2018, 04:11 PM
Celtic won’t be easy to deal with at this stage in case they decide to make a move for Mcginn.

I’d imagine they’d currently be valuing him ridiculously highly so if it comes to him making up value in a swap deal it’ll look like they’re offering a high value player.

I can’t see Celtic thinking Scott Allan is some sort of deal breaker or maker. Maybe I’m wrong but he’s way down their pecking order for them to be standing in his way. If Celtic want McGinn why don’t they just offer to do a deal? Why leave it until the last minute?

bingo70
19-06-2018, 04:13 PM
I get all that but we’ve got Europa games coming up and we seem to be very slow in getting things sorted. We always seem to be the ones who struggle to get deals over the line quickly for one reason or another.

Wouldn’t surprise me if Celtic were valuing him around £1m currently.

That way when they offer £2m + Scott Allan in a few weeks they’ll be valuing it as a £3m deal. If they valued him at a more realistic figure just now it’d be crazy from their perspective.

bingo70
19-06-2018, 04:14 PM
I can’t see Celtic thinking Scott Allan is some sort of deal breaker or maker. Maybe I’m wrong but he’s way down their pecking order for them to be standing in his way. If Celtic want McGinn why don’t they just offer to do a deal? Why leave it until the last minute?

Because whoever holds off longest will get the better deal.

It’s a lot of money being spoken of here and there’s a lot of brinkmanship going on currently.

Real Emerald
19-06-2018, 04:20 PM
Wouldn’t surprise me if Celtic were valuing him around £1m currently.

That way when they offer £2m + Scott Allan in a few weeks they’ll be valuing it as a £3m deal. If they valued him at a more realistic figure just now it’d be crazy from their perspective.

Well that’s just crazy because I don’t think anyone would pay anything like £1m for Scott Allan and if that is part of the valuation they’re attaching to a potential deal for McGinn we should walk away and sell him elsewhere.

Johnny_Leith
19-06-2018, 04:26 PM
Well that’s just crazy because I don’t think anyone would pay anything like £1m for Scott Allan and if that is part of the valuation they’re attaching to a potential deal for McGinn we should walk away and sell him elsewhere.

Well, we might. We might keep McGinn in the hope of getting lucrative ties in Europe or making the group stages. We might get an unbelievable offer prior to our first European game. He's our player and we will try and get the best possible deal for him.

Just like Celtic will with Scott Allan. If hibs get knocked out in the first round, maybe they'll bid for McGinn knowing we've lost out on potential European windfalls.

There's a huge amount of variables in negotiations and they are not always easily concluded. Patience is the key, the club has a good recruitment department.

Unseen work
19-06-2018, 04:30 PM
Allan is also in the last year of his contract with celtic so they will need to be realistic in any fee they want for him.

Johnny_Leith
19-06-2018, 04:32 PM
Allan is also in the last year of his contract with celtic so they will need to be realistic in any fee they want for him.

If they aren't offered the fee they want, they could let him rot in the reserves for the season. Not like they are desperate for cash.

Gibby the Hibby
19-06-2018, 04:37 PM
They already have a more than decent striker


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Ye, but he gets isolated so much,, so another would be a worry, if levein ever plays 2 upfront,

Hibbyradge
19-06-2018, 04:39 PM
If they aren't offered the fee they want, they could let him rot in the reserves for the season. Not like they are desperate for cash.

Do you genuinely think that a professional football club would behave so vindictively for any reason at all, never mind because they've overvalued him?

Real Emerald
19-06-2018, 04:39 PM
Well, we might. We might keep McGinn in the hope of getting lucrative ties in Europe or making the group stages. We might get an unbelievable offer prior to our first European game. He's our player and we will try and get the best possible deal for him.

Just like Celtic will with Scott Allan. If hibs get knocked out in the first round, maybe they'll bid for McGinn knowing we've lost out on potential European windfalls.

There's a huge amount of variables in negotiations and they are not always easily concluded. Patience is the key, the club has a good recruitment department.

It’s difficult though when you see the gaps in our midfield compared to the team we finished the season with and not a peep of anything close to happening. I know these worries are aired every pre season but over the years it’s more often than not we aren’t ready for the start of the season.

Gibby the Hibby
19-06-2018, 04:40 PM
If they aren't offered the fee they want, they could let him rot in the reserves for the season. Not like they are desperate for cash.

you know celtic would say the same thing to us, if it was part of the JM deal... lets hope he signs a new contract,
feeling he may, as Hibs surely will assure him we wont stand in his way if he wants to move, on, we would just get
a fair value for him... after some europa grou stage performances ;)

Ronniekirk
19-06-2018, 04:40 PM
I can’t see Celtic thinking Scott Allan is some sort of deal breaker or maker. Maybe I’m wrong but he’s way down their pecking order for them to be standing in his way. If Celtic want McGinn why don’t they just offer to do a deal? Why leave it until the last minute?

Doesn't matter what Celtic think If right Club down South comes in for McGinn that's where he will go
That's the problem though if McGinn doesn't fancy the. Clubs interested in him and then Celtic come calling he may be tempted and see them as the better stepping stone to get his move down South
But this scenario was always on the cards and leaves us in a difficult position although he can play in Europe for us


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Johnny_Leith
19-06-2018, 04:43 PM
Do you genuinely think that a professional football club would behave so vindictively for any reason at all, never mind because they've overvalued him?

Hibs were prepared to do the same, and would have of Celtic hadn't come in for Allan in 2016. Stubbs was quoted saying LD and the board would not sell to the rangers and if Allan refused to play then so be it he'd be in the stand. Obviously that never panned out so we will never know but clubs will always do what's best for themselves rather than individual players.

If the end of the window comes and Celtic are negotiating for McGinn and it falls through, I don't think they'd blink about not moving SA on. There could be situations play out that will see SA a Celtic player when the window closes.

I hope we sign Allan and I'd love it to be soon, but looking at the situation I think it's going to be a drawn out process.

Johnny_Leith
19-06-2018, 04:47 PM
It’s difficult though when you see the gaps in our midfield compared to the team we finished the season with and not a peep of anything close to happening. I know these worries are aired every pre season but over the years it’s more often than not we aren’t ready for the start of the season.

I get where you're coming from. We might get a draw in Europe Lennon is comfortable with the midfield we have for the two legs. We might get a draw which will see an ambitious recruitment drive.

Hibs seem to have really tightened up on info coming from the club, so I personally don't take the lack of rumours as worrying, I've faith that the club are doing everything can to get the right players in.

Johnny_Leith
19-06-2018, 04:49 PM
you know celtic would say the same thing to us, if it was part of the JM deal... lets hope he signs a new contract,
feeling he may, as Hibs surely will assure him we wont stand in his way if he wants to move, on, we would just get
a fair value for him... after some europa grou stage performances ;)

That would be the ideal scenario for us. Got my fingers, toes, eyes, legs, the whole lot, crossed for a good draw tomorrow!

Hibbyradge
19-06-2018, 04:50 PM
Hibs were prepared to do the same, and would have of Celtic hadn't come in for Allan in 2016. Stubbs was quoted saying LD and the board would not sell to the rangers and if Allan refused to play then so be it he'd be in the stand. Obviously that never panned out so we will never know but clubs will always do what's best for themselves rather than individual players.

If the end of the window comes and Celtic are negotiating for McGinn and it falls through, I don't think they'd blink about not moving SA on. There could be situations play out that will see SA a Celtic player when the window closes.

I hope we sign Allan and I'd love it to be soon, but looking at the situation I think it's going to be a drawn out process.

I was referring to the idea that they'd make him "rot in the reserves".

The crucial phrase was "if Allan refused to play".

If Celtc don't sell him to us, he won't refuse to play for them.

neil7908
19-06-2018, 04:50 PM
Claros was humpty IMO, and if he was Scottish / British there would have been zero clamour for his signing.

Going back the likes of Kevin Mcbride was a much more effective player.

Any comparisons to Dylan are laughable. Worlds apart in terms of skill and effectiveness.

On Claros vs Mcbride, their respective careers show that's clearly nonsense.

Real Emerald
19-06-2018, 05:00 PM
I get where you're coming from. We might get a draw in Europe Lennon is comfortable with the midfield we have for the two legs. We might get a draw which will see an ambitious recruitment drive.

Hibs seem to have really tightened up on info coming from the club, so I personally don't take the lack of rumours as worrying, I've faith that the club are doing everything can to get the right players in.

I like to have all my bases covered and the uncertainty really bothers me. We could potentially lose McGinn over the next few weeks which would virtually wipe out the majority of our best players from a great midfield. Blind faith isn’t one of my virtues so I’ll take some comfort from the faith you’re showing. It won’t stop me worrying, if worrying is the right word to use when referring to a football team, I’m not losing sleep over it! 😂

Johnny_Leith
19-06-2018, 05:02 PM
I was referring to the idea that they'd make him "rot in the reserves".

The crucial phrase was "if Allan refused to play".

If Celtc don't sell him to us, he won't refuse to play for them.

He could refuse to play in order to push a move to hibs through. Not much of a bargaining position though as he's not exactly first choice!

Maybe 'rot in the reserves' isn't the correct phrasing but I'd imagine if it comes to pass that Celtic still have SA on their books come the slamming shut of the window, then I doubt Peter lawall etc will lose any sleep.

Hibbyradge
19-06-2018, 05:10 PM
He could refuse to play in order to push a move to hibs through. Not much of a bargaining position though as he's not exactly first choice!

Maybe 'rot in the reserves' isn't the correct phrasing but I'd imagine if it comes to pass that Celtic still have SA on their books come the slamming shut of the window, then I doubt Peter lawall etc will lose any sleep.

I think there might be a complication because he's still under contract and on much bigger money than we can offer.

Johnny_Leith
19-06-2018, 05:11 PM
I like to have all my bases covered and the uncertainty really bothers me. We could potentially lose McGinn over the next few weeks which would virtually wipe out the majority of our best players from a great midfield. Blind faith isn’t one of my virtues so I’ll take some comfort from the faith you’re showing. It won’t stop me worrying, if worrying is the right word to use when referring to a football team, I’m not losing sleep over it! 😂

Just don't blame me if we sell McGinn and replace him with Andy halliday 😂😂. In all seriousness it's a valid concern, McGinn is a quality player and we might well lose McGeouch too. But I'm hopeful both will be hibs players this season.

Borderhibbie76
19-06-2018, 05:28 PM
I get all that but we’ve got Europa games coming up and we seem to be very slow in getting things sorted. We always seem to be the ones who struggle to get deals over the line quickly for one reason or another.Agree with this and this is what's annoying me..we have a euro game in 3 weeks time and as things stand we are a bit undercooked to say the least...if we suffer an embarrassing exit we will look back and blame slow recruitment. We don't even have a fit keeper as things stand at present...

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Borderhibbie76
19-06-2018, 05:30 PM
Well, we might. We might keep McGinn in the hope of getting lucrative ties in Europe or making the group stages. We might get an unbelievable offer prior to our first European game. He's our player and we will try and get the best possible deal for him.

Just like Celtic will with Scott Allan. If hibs get knocked out in the first round, maybe they'll bid for McGinn knowing we've lost out on potential European windfalls.

There's a huge amount of variables in negotiations and they are not always easily concluded. Patience is the key, the club has a good recruitment department.I get the patience thing mate I do..but LD keeps going in about making an impact in Europe...well if we are going to start doing that this year we deffo need a few more over the line in next few weeks. If we weren't in Europe..I would be far less worried as league is still nearly 2 months away

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PatHead
19-06-2018, 05:37 PM
I get the patience thing mate I do..but LD keeps going in about making an impact in Europe...well if we are going to start doing that this year we deffo need a few more over the line in next few weeks. If we weren't in Europe..I would be far less worried as league is still nearly 2 months away

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I am sure Leeann and co are sitting around doing nothing just to annoy you.😋

Borderhibbie76
19-06-2018, 05:39 PM
I am sure Leeann and co are sitting around doing nothing just to annoy you.[emoji39]I am sure they are working hard behind the scenes and sure we will get the signings In eventually...it's the euro ties im concerned with though...but cheers for the sarcasm...so predictable

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Kato
19-06-2018, 05:43 PM
On Claros vs Mcbride, their respective careers show that's clearly nonsense.

:top marks

PatHead
19-06-2018, 05:43 PM
I am sure they are working hard behind the scenes and sure we will get the signings In eventually...it's the euro ties im concerned with though...but cheers for the sarcasm...so predictable

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Glad to oblige. Cheers for sharing your concerns again, so predictable . Maybe we should have you heading our recruitment team. We could have a full squad by now.

Borderhibbie76
19-06-2018, 05:49 PM
Glad to oblige. Cheers for sharing your concerns again, so predictable . Maybe we should have you heading our recruitment team. We could have a full squad by now.It's a forum are we not allowed to discuss our activity or lack of till this point?? There is precious all else to discuss during close season?? I've already stated I'm confident the signings will come eventually...

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MagicSwirlingShip
19-06-2018, 05:56 PM
On Claros vs Mcbride, their respective careers show that's clearly nonsense.

Claros was hopeless. Show me one single match he was anything above 6/10 and I’ll dispute it. This myth that he was an incredible passer of the ball is absolute fantasy too, if he passed the ball forward with any sense of urgency ONCE in his full spell here then It was a solitary effort.

Tobias Funke
19-06-2018, 06:01 PM
It's a forum are we not allowed to discuss our activity or lack of till this point?? There is precious all else to discuss during close season?? I've already stated I'm confident the signings will come eventually...

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You were as ridiculously impatient last year as you appear to be now. Just settle and let the people running our club get on with what they need to do. Alternatively, we could just fill our team with huddies like our neighbours.

CRAZYHIBBY
19-06-2018, 06:03 PM
Claros was hopeless. Show me one single match he was anything above 6/10 and I’ll dispute it. This myth that he was an incredible passer of the ball is absolute fantasy too, if he passed the ball forward with any sense of urgency ONCE in his full spell here then It was a solitary effort.

Why not just search the old claros threads

CapitalGreen
19-06-2018, 06:12 PM
Claros was hopeless. Show me one single match he was anything above 6/10 and I’ll dispute it. This myth that he was an incredible passer of the ball is absolute fantasy too, if he passed the ball forward with any sense of urgency ONCE in his full spell here then It was a solitary effort.

Off the top of my head.

SC QF away to Kilmarnock
Hearts at Home, Griffiths FK goal not given
1-0 win at home to Celtic, bossed a midfield including Brown and Wanyama

AlbertK86
19-06-2018, 06:19 PM
Claros was hopeless. Show me one single match he was anything above 6/10 and I’ll dispute it. This myth that he was an incredible passer of the ball is absolute fantasy too, if he passed the ball forward with any sense of urgency ONCE in his full spell here then It was a solitary effort.

I take it you were drunk during his spell here


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CapitalGreen
19-06-2018, 06:22 PM
Claros was hopeless. Show me one single match he was anything above 6/10 and I’ll dispute it. This myth that he was an incredible passer of the ball is absolute fantasy too, if he passed the ball forward with any sense of urgency ONCE in his full spell here then It was a solitary effort.

What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)


Honduran report saying that Claros is likely to stay another year at Hibs
Great news if true
http://www.golcatracho.com/jorge-claros-lejos-de-volver-a-motagua/

The 10th reply on that thread:

I'd be delighted if this is true. You can never have too many quality midfielders :thumbsup:

:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

blackpoolhibs
19-06-2018, 06:29 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:


:faf: Good find. :top marks

SaulGoodman
19-06-2018, 06:32 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

😂😂😂

AlbertK86
19-06-2018, 06:33 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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CRAZYHIBBY
19-06-2018, 06:41 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

Lol you just made him look a right mug:greengrin

calumhibee1
19-06-2018, 06:44 PM
I presume there’s nothing in this with Claros?

Leith Green
19-06-2018, 06:45 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:


Think the most appropriate word in this instance is clamped

CapitalGreen
19-06-2018, 06:47 PM
I presume there’s nothing in this with Claros?

Nothing, his name was just mentioned in relation to receiving payments for players involved in the World Cup.

neil7908
19-06-2018, 06:52 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

Sublime

Gibby the Hibby
19-06-2018, 06:52 PM
I presume there’s nothing in this with Claros?


Nah. nothing atall,

for what its worth, I liked claros, Just thought that he was overrated, but he was settling just as he left,

Must say. Id take him over mcbride anytime.:wink:

Stuart93
19-06-2018, 06:52 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

Superb

Beefster
19-06-2018, 06:53 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

Oooft, that’s got to smart.

Billychaotic182
19-06-2018, 06:53 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

That is some top quality detective work!

Gibby the Hibby
19-06-2018, 06:53 PM
Sublime


that is funny. when an old post comes back to haunt eh.

we are all getting older... memories not as they once were :greengrin

Kato
19-06-2018, 06:56 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

Ouch!

My_Wife_Camille
19-06-2018, 07:00 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:
This is the best day of my life 😍

Ozyhibby
19-06-2018, 07:03 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

Outrageous. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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Smartie
19-06-2018, 07:07 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

:top marks

(Smart retreats chuckling, but with a deeply uncomfortable sense of paranoia upon seeing the lengths that some people will go to to expose an inconsistency in an arguing position.)

Aldo
19-06-2018, 07:07 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

Priceless! [emoji23][emoji23]


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R'Albin
19-06-2018, 07:07 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

That's absolutely sensational :faf:

Tha Cabbage Kid
19-06-2018, 07:07 PM
Wouldn’t surprise me if Celtic were valuing him around £1m currently.

That way when they offer £2m + Scott Allan in a few weeks they’ll be valuing it as a £3m deal. If they valued him at a more realistic figure just now it’d be crazy from their perspective.Valuation doesn't make sense. We want to buy a non international player and they want to buy the hottest young international player who has shown he can handle the big stage!!! Unfortunately Scotty hasn't proved himself on the big stage yet.

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mjhibby
19-06-2018, 07:09 PM
I get the patience thing mate I do..but LD keeps going in about making an impact in Europe...well if we are going to start doing that this year we deffo need a few more over the line in next few weeks. If we weren't in Europe..I would be far less worried as league is still nearly 2 months away

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Getting decent players is a complex thing. Some teams just seem to getting numbers in to satisfy their fans. I'd rather we get the right players in. In the case of Allan, barker, mclaren then there is no rush to get them in as they know the set up. I'd be more concerned about mcginn leaving to be honest and getting guys like mallan used to our set up. I'm sure there will be a lot of people fretting, unnecessarily IMHO, but come our first game I'm sure we'll have a strong team out. Also remember we have the likes of swanson, slivka, bartley etc desperate to play.

Billy Whizz
19-06-2018, 07:09 PM
That's absolutely sensational :faf:

Sorry what am I missing

SideBurns
19-06-2018, 07:09 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

Aye but now he's had 5 years to sleep on it he's realised Claros was humpty...

SHODAN
19-06-2018, 07:12 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:


https://youtu.be/3tYPzSGVHOc

MagicSwirlingShip
19-06-2018, 07:28 PM
Oooft. Must’ve been a few pints in posting that.

Since June 2013 we’ve had countless midfielders of a better standard than Claros. Suppose it’s all relative to our progress as a club.

MagicSwirlingShip
19-06-2018, 07:30 PM
Aye but now he's had 5 years to sleep on it he's realised Claros was humpty...

Correct!

Gibby the Hibby
19-06-2018, 07:33 PM
Getting decent players is a complex thing. Some teams just seem to getting numbers in to satisfy their fans. I'd rather we get the right players in. In the case of Allan, barker, mclaren then there is no rush to get them in as they know the set up. I'd be more concerned about mcginn leaving to be honest and getting guys like mallan used to our set up. I'm sure there will be a lot of people fretting, unnecessarily IMHO, but come our first game I'm sure we'll have a strong team out. Also remember we have the likes of swanson, slivka, bartley etc desperate to play.


Yeh I agree with this,

Agents must be advising players to hold off for offers as long as possible, but not too long, its a fine balance for players or accept at the rite time, But it must be really tough ti get good players to sign up early, unless they have been on loan like flo. Recruitments number 1 job was to sign flo, its just been done, others will follow,

Pedantic_Hibee
19-06-2018, 07:34 PM
What's changed?

From the June 2013 thread Claros to return to Hibs? (http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?266106-Claros-to-return-to-Hibs)



The 10th reply on that thread:


:confused::confused::confused: From Quality midfielder to hopeless :confused::confused::confused:

You're either Columbo or my missus.

Top detective work.

Winston Ingram
19-06-2018, 07:47 PM
Allan is also in the last year of his contract with celtic so they will need to be realistic in any fee they want for him.

Absolutely. He’s never worth a million. His entire career can has been 4 good months in the Premiership and 1 good season in the Championship.

He has a year left of on his deal, they’ll not be offering him another and have no intention of playing him either.

snooky
19-06-2018, 07:56 PM
Re. the Claros Cold Case File.
I think, as the poster said, it does show the standard of player that was deemed as being good back then is a bit different nowadays.

R'Albin
19-06-2018, 08:04 PM
Sorry what am I missing

From the quoted post, the boy was going on about him being quality five years ago and then speaking about how ***** he is now.

Gibby the Hibby
19-06-2018, 08:10 PM
Absolutely. He’s never worth a million. His entire career can has been 4 good months in the Premiership and 1 good season in the Championship.

He has a year left of on his deal, they’ll not be offering him another and have no intention of playing him either.



was it 1.2 mil they paid for allan? If so they cant think of saying he is worth a million. now.

Gmack7
19-06-2018, 08:13 PM
was it 1.2 mil they paid for allan? If so they cant think of saying he is worth a million. now.

400k i think

BOB MARLEYS DUG
19-06-2018, 08:29 PM
Take this Claros chat elsewhere.

Gibby the Hibby
19-06-2018, 08:33 PM
400k i think



Cheers

Aye , just ckecking the reports fi 3 year ago,, he supposedly supported
the team formerly known as rangers when a kid.... but thats coming from the
daily ranger record.

Lago
19-06-2018, 08:35 PM
Take this Claros chat elsewhere.
I'll second that, load of nonsense.

SideBurns
19-06-2018, 08:38 PM
Re. the Claros Cold Case File.
I think, as the poster said, it does show the standard of player that was deemed as being good back then is a bit different nowadays.

He was a good player though, and one of the few from that time who could possibly hold a place in the present squad (imo).

Your wider point about the general upturn in quality is hopefully going to be further strengthened in the coming weeks, with Mallan & Allan coming in. Good players like to play with other good players, and the frustration I sense on here will turn to excitement if guys like TC23 and Underscore are on the ball, as usual.

Brightside
19-06-2018, 08:44 PM
Another thread ruined.

FilipinoHibs
19-06-2018, 08:52 PM
Another thread ruined.

Any transfer rumours?

SMAXXA
19-06-2018, 08:53 PM
Another thread ruined.

Cause no mine is itk so no rumours or speculation to start 😋 shows the club is going about it’s business right nowt getting leaked

Captain Trips
19-06-2018, 09:02 PM
Can I ask why on this occasion a few folk think Celtic re Allan will be difficult to deal with etc etc? is that an opinion or is that what is happening now as a reason we have not signed him?

HibeeMackenzie
19-06-2018, 09:11 PM
I think we’ll be seeing a lot more of Mcgeouch next season

Blaster
19-06-2018, 09:12 PM
I think we’ll be seeing a lot more of Mcgeouch next season

For or against us?

BoomtownHibees
19-06-2018, 09:26 PM
Danny Handling signs for Edinburgh City

Borderhibbie76
19-06-2018, 09:34 PM
I think we’ll be seeing a lot more of Mcgeouch next seasonEducated guess or have u heard something positive??

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Real Emerald
19-06-2018, 09:34 PM
Can I ask why on this occasion a few folk think Celtic re Allan will be difficult to deal with etc etc? is that an opinion or is that what is happening now as a reason we have not signed him?

That was my point earlier today. He struggled to get a game for Dundee last season and is nowhere near the Celtic team or in their plans. Their manager has even stated Hibs is the best place for him and Allan himself seems to agree. Celtic can’t possibly be looking for a big fee, so what’s the problem? Are we actually trying to get him or is it just fan talk?

Jim44
19-06-2018, 09:39 PM
That was my point earlier today. He struggled to get a game for Dundee last season and is nowhere near the Celtic team or in their plans. Their manager has even stated Hibs is the best place for him and Allan himself seems to agree. Celtic can’t possibly be looking for a big fee, so what’s the problem? Are we actually trying to get him or is it just fan talk?

Why wouldn’t we be trying to get him?

truehibernian
19-06-2018, 09:45 PM
That was my point earlier today. He struggled to get a game for Dundee last season and is nowhere near the Celtic team or in their plans. Their manager has even stated Hibs is the best place for him and Allan himself seems to agree. Celtic can’t possibly be looking for a big fee, so what’s the problem? Are we actually trying to get him or is it just fan talk?

In this case I think it's the player pushing for the move. He loved being back, he's got a house and young family close by, he's re-engaged with the Hibs support and I think he knows he plays his best football here. And having seen him close hand with Neil Lennon I think there is a good relationship there (dare I say a wee bit of favouritism from NL towards him). He feels loved again.

I fully expect Scott Allan to be a Hibs player :aok:

Real Emerald
19-06-2018, 09:49 PM
Why wouldn’t we be trying to get him?

I don’t know if we are but I would have thought it would be an easy one to get done. I don’t buy into Celtic playing hardball as a leverage to get McGinn, it would just devalue McGinn too much. There’s no way Hibs are going to swallow a huge fee for Allan that knocks McGinn’s price down. No one else would pay much for Allan so why would Celtic expect us to?

Just seems strange that if we had been after him why it wouldn’t have gone through quick. Or maybe we aren’t chasing him after all?

Eyrie
19-06-2018, 09:56 PM
Danny Handling signs for Edinburgh City

Handling was never good enough to play for Hibs but I'm still surprised that he's in the Second Division after just one season in the Championship.

Franck Stanton
19-06-2018, 09:57 PM
Sure I read that Rogers stated he & Celtic would not be hard to deal with if we did want Allan. Imo this transfer is the most important for us to conclude.

Ronniekirk
19-06-2018, 09:58 PM
I don’t know if we are but I would have thought it would be an easy one to get done. I don’t buy into Celtic playing hardball as a leverage to get McGinn, it would just devalue McGinn too much. There’s no way Hibs are going to swallow a huge fee for Allan that knocks McGinn’s price down. No one else would pay much for Allan so why would Celtic expect us to?

Just seems strange that if we had been after him why it wouldn’t have gone through quick. Or maybe we aren’t chasing him after all?

I think you will find other Clubs are interested in him given his form for us
Thankfully like Flo he is keen to come back to us but unlike Flo we don't have first option to buy him at s knock down price so we need to see how Celtic play this
Armstrong just been sold Will they loan out Ryan Christie again . Is Lewis Morgan ready or will he go out on loan
Celtic haven't done much business yet in this window so who else might they bring in
So they wont be in any hurray to offload Allan I don't think


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Real Emerald
19-06-2018, 10:03 PM
I think you will find other Clubs are interested in him given his form for us
Thankfully like Flo he is keen to come back to us but unlike Flo we don't have first option to buy him at s knock down price so we need to see how Celtic play this
Armstrong just been sold Will they loan out Ryan Christie again . Is Lewis Morgan ready or will he go out on loan
Celtic haven't done much business yet in this window so who else might they bring in
So they wont be in any hurray to offload Allan I don't think


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I totally get Celtic are in no hurry but if Hibs want him and he wants to come then why would they stall on it. As I said they’re not going to expect a big fee so why not just get a deal done and allow the guy to move on? I guess we’ll find out sooner or later.

The Leith Dutch
19-06-2018, 10:10 PM
Absolutely. He’s never worth a million. His entire career can has been 4 good months in the Premiership and 1 good season in the Championship.

He has a year left of on his deal, they’ll not be offering him another and have no intention of playing him either.

Worth is a tricky concept.

Someone above posted the idea hypothetically of Celtic valuing Allan at 1mill offer 2mill for McGinn and saying it was a 3mill package.
As you say - he's not a 1 million player right now but I'd probably rather have Scott Allan at Hibs than 1 million extra in the bank.
My reasoning being I'm not sure we could turn that 1 million into a better asset for Hibs on the park and it's probably a gamble to try.

ancient hibee
19-06-2018, 10:11 PM
It doesn’t seem to occur to anyone that perhaps Allan doesn’t want to drop a lot of money to come.He has a history of chasing the money and why not it’s his job.

truehibernian
19-06-2018, 10:12 PM
It doesn’t seem to occur to anyone that perhaps Allan doesn’t want to drop a lot of money to come.He has a history of chasing the money and why not it’s his job.

I'm pretty sure he'll jump at the chance to come here :aok: money won't be the driver.

bingo70
19-06-2018, 10:44 PM
I'm pretty sure he'll jump at the chance to come here :aok: money won't be the driver.

I’m sure he’d jump at the chance of a loan to hibs, can’t see why he’d be so keen to take a significant drop in salary when a loan move is likely to be an option.

truehibernian
20-06-2018, 12:00 AM
I’m sure he’d jump at the chance of a loan to hibs, can’t see why he’d be so keen to take a significant drop in salary when a loan move is likely to be an option.

I didn't imply a loan Bingo, I think he'll sign a permanent deal :aok:

JimboHibs
20-06-2018, 12:13 AM
I think you will find other Clubs are interested in him given his form for us
Thankfully like Flo he is keen to come back to us but unlike Flo we don't have first option to buy him at s knock down price so we need to see how Celtic play this
Armstrong just been sold Will they loan out Ryan Christie again . Is Lewis Morgan ready or will he go out on loan
Celtic haven't done much business yet in this window so who else might they bring in
So they wont be in any hurray to offload Allan I don't think


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Who has Armstrong been sold to ?

Ronniekirk
20-06-2018, 02:32 AM
Who has Armstrong been sold to ?

My mistake It was quoted Southampton were stepping up third interest in him with Celtic wanting six million



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J-C
20-06-2018, 05:31 AM
Re Handling, what a fall from grace this lads had, man of the match against Rangers just a couple of seasons ago, very decent player who played at being a pro instead of training like one.

danhibees1875
20-06-2018, 06:39 AM
I didn't imply a loan Bingo, I think he'll sign a permanent deal :aok:

But Allan would gain more from a loan deal, so maybe he's holding out for that.

Borderhibbie76
20-06-2018, 06:54 AM
Re Handling, what a fall from grace this lads had, man of the match against Rangers just a couple of seasons ago, very decent player who played at being a pro instead of training like one.Sure has...now down in league 2 - still bizarre that we gave him that 4 year deal...found that strange even at the time. However his talent is way above League 2 but the attitude must be the issue with Danny

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calumhibee1
20-06-2018, 06:57 AM
Sure has...now down in league 2 - still bizarre that we gave him that 4 year deal...found that strange even at the time. However his talent is way above League 2 but the attitude must be the issue with Danny

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I think his talent is suited to that level.

Billy Whizz
20-06-2018, 07:16 AM
Re Handling, what a fall from grace this lads had, man of the match against Rangers just a couple of seasons ago, very decent player who played at being a pro instead of training like one.

Don’t know anything about his lifestyle, but the boy has had 2 bad injuries. Spoke to a couple of Dumbarton fans a few months ago, they said he was too good for them?
Maybe just wants to reunite with James McDonaugh for a season, get his career back on track
Danny definetely has talent

we are hibs
20-06-2018, 08:03 AM
Ali Crawford on trial at hearts. Thought I read on here he hates them because they let him go as a young laddie for being too wee

marinello59
20-06-2018, 08:03 AM
Don’t know anything about his lifestyle, but the boy has had 2 bad injuries. Spoke to a couple of Dumbarton fans a few months ago, they said he was too good for them?
Maybe just wants to reunite with James McDonaugh for a season, get his career back on track
Danny definetely has talent

Have to agree, Handling has plenty of ability. I felt it was his injuries rather than any attitude problem that saw him fade away from the first team. He initially came through at a difficult time as well, if Stubbs and his team had worked with him a few years sooner it might have been a very different story.

Brightside
20-06-2018, 08:03 AM
Danny just didn’t progress after being given that deal. He was a very talented player at the time but many players just don’t progress further which is a shame. Hope he does well at Edinburgh.

Ronniekirk
20-06-2018, 08:10 AM
Kenny Miller holding talks with Stubbs that would be decent piece of business for Saints if Stubbsy can pull it off


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Ronniekirk
20-06-2018, 08:13 AM
Ali Crawford on trial at hearts. Thought I read on here he hates them because they let him go as a young laddie for being too wee

Levine saying he wants a closer look at him Wouldn't of thought that was necessary given he must have seen him play several times last season
Seems a strange one


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Barney McGrew
20-06-2018, 08:18 AM
Levine saying he wants a closer look at him Wouldn't of thought that was necessary given he must have seen him play several times last season
Seems a strange one

Put him on ‘trial’ for a couple of weeks and you save a couple of weeks wages.

An ideal scenario if you’re skint like them.

brog
20-06-2018, 08:19 AM
I think you will find other Clubs are interested in him given his form for us
Thankfully like Flo he is keen to come back to us but unlike Flo we don't have first option to buy him at s knock down price so we need to see how Celtic play this
Armstrong just been sold Will they loan out Ryan Christie again . Is Lewis Morgan ready or will he go out on loan
Celtic haven't done much business yet in this window so who else might they bring in
So they wont be in any hurray to offload Allan I don't think


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A sensible post, that will never catch on! People need to realise that within our budget, 10 or 20k extra can prevent us signing another player. For Celtc its much less meaningful but Lawwell is notorious for squeezing the last penny out of buyers. He makes the Tache look like a philanthropist! Im confident that Hibs will be doing everything possible to get Scotty back & I dont think SA will be a block, but just like the deal that brought SA here in Jan, there's many different scenarios & complications. Have faith in our club.

brog
20-06-2018, 08:22 AM
Ali Crawford on trial at hearts. Thought I read on here he hates them because they let him go as a young laddie for being too wee

Yams are taking the rugby analogy too far now. They must think it's 15 a side! Suspect Laughatme will be getting touted to potential buyers.

JimboHibs
20-06-2018, 08:30 AM
Ali Crawford on trial at hearts. Thought I read on here he hates them because they let him go as a young laddie for being too wee

Don't believe everything you read on here.Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

CRAZYHIBBY
20-06-2018, 08:31 AM
Our next signing will be on a 3 year deal

Callum_62
20-06-2018, 08:40 AM
Our next signing will be on a 3 year deal

:flag:

stokesmessiah
20-06-2018, 08:41 AM
Our next signing will be on a 3 year deal

Will they have a name?

SouthMoroccoStu
20-06-2018, 08:43 AM
Our next signing will be on a 3 year deal

Mallan? Allan? or is there another name?

Callum_62
20-06-2018, 08:55 AM
Stick my neck out and say Dylan


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SouthMoroccoStu
20-06-2018, 08:58 AM
Stick my neck out and say Dylan


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Oooooft

That's a bold shout

Would be as good as a new signing

AlbertK86
20-06-2018, 09:04 AM
Don’t know anything about his lifestyle, but the boy has had 2 bad injuries. Spoke to a couple of Dumbarton fans a few months ago, they said he was too good for them?
Maybe just wants to reunite with James McDonaugh for a season, get his career back on track
Danny definetely has talent

Agree


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ToffeeCabbage
20-06-2018, 09:10 AM
Expect to see Edinburgh City do well this season. They have signed Conrad Balatoni too, who like Handling is no world beater but surely better than that level.

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Billychaotic182
20-06-2018, 09:21 AM
Expect to see Edinburgh City do well this season. They have signed Conrad Balatoni too, who like Handling is no world beater but surely better than that level.

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Quite annoyed Edinburgh City blocked me on twitter. Always liked them. Made one Craig Thompson joke when they were playing Falkirk (sure you can guess what I said) and blocked.

1van Sprou7e
20-06-2018, 09:27 AM
Quite annoyed Edinburgh City blocked me on twitter. Always liked them. Made one Craig Thompson joke when they were playing Falkirk (sure you can guess what I said) and blocked.

Lol, bit much

Clearly a bitter Jambo who runs their Twitter

Borderhibbie76
20-06-2018, 09:37 AM
Yams are taking the rugby analogy too far now. They must think it's 15 a side! Suspect Laughatme will be getting touted to potential buyers.It's bizarre...that must be something like 10 new signings now...how can they even afford such a huge squad?? It's a real scatter gun policy which is just strange

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Borderhibbie76
20-06-2018, 09:38 AM
Oooooft

That's a bold shout

Would be as good as a new signingEven better than a new signing for me ifnit comes to pass...Dylan is a fabulous player who id love to see back at ER

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Brightside
20-06-2018, 10:01 AM
Ali Crawford on trial at hearts. Thought I read on here he hates them because they let him go as a young laddie for being too wee

The fact that we didnt sign Ali Crawford should tell people that the other signings mentioned are pretty much there. 100% we were ready to buy him at the end end of the season. Lennon a fan of his. He will be a great signing for Hearts if he goes there.

Callum_62
20-06-2018, 10:02 AM
So you think Allan instead of Crawford?

Id accept that


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Brightside
20-06-2018, 10:04 AM
So you think Allan instead of Crawford?

Id accept that


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Mallan instead of Crawford

K-Zazu
20-06-2018, 10:19 AM
Mallan instead of Crawford

What about S.Allan?

Heisenberg
20-06-2018, 10:24 AM
Crawford was ruined by injuries last season. Tells a story that no one seems to be in a major rush to sign him. Delighted if we are getting Mallan instead of him.

ToffeeCabbage
20-06-2018, 10:39 AM
Stick my neck out and say Dylan


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On Crawford, the fact we haven't signed him already and Hearts are now in for him proves to me we must have better options in the pipeline (Mallan, Allan etc)

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CorrieHibs
20-06-2018, 11:01 AM
It's bizarre...that must be something like 10 new signings now...how can they even afford such a huge squad?? It's a real scatter gun policy which is just strange

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Have they released anyone yet? Bar the loans?

They’re still trying to get; Mitchell, Naismith and Milinković. That will be some transfer budget!

Heisenberg
20-06-2018, 11:19 AM
Have they released anyone yet? Bar the loans?

They’re still trying to get; Mitchell, Naismith and Milinković. That will be some transfer budget!

Read this morning that apparently Milinkovic has knocked back their contract offer. Doesn’t sound like a done deal, would be hilarious if he went elsewhere.

Beefster
20-06-2018, 11:25 AM
Ali Crawford on trial at hearts. Thought I read on here he hates them because they let him go as a young laddie for being too wee

What a beamer for Crawford given he was giving it the big 'I want to go down South' a month or so ago. From that to trialling for Hearts...

JimboHibs
20-06-2018, 11:30 AM
What a beamer for Crawford given he was giving it the big 'I want to go down South' a month or so ago. From that to trialling for Hearts...

Really as bad as Hearts are they are a step up from Hamilton,I'm sure he'll be embarrassed because you say so.

Albanian Hibs
20-06-2018, 11:34 AM
Twitter saying we were after Izaguirre (sp) but he knocked us back

Beefster
20-06-2018, 11:35 AM
Really as bad as Hearts are they are a step up from Hamilton,I'm sure he'll be embarrassed because you say so.

I think you're taking this Internet thing a bit too seriously, if I'm honest.

degenerated
20-06-2018, 11:35 AM
Read this morning that apparently Milinkovic has knocked back their contract offer. Doesn’t sound like a done deal, would be hilarious if he went elsewhere.


sounds like he might be

http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town-linked-with-david-milinkovic-1-5568886

Ronniekirk
20-06-2018, 11:54 AM
Put him on ‘trial’ for a couple of weeks and you save a couple of weeks wages.

An ideal scenario if you’re skint like them.

Forgot they were skint


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bingo70
20-06-2018, 11:57 AM
Twitter saying we were after Izaguirre (sp) but he knocked us back

Twitter won’t be saying any such thing.

Who’s twitter account is saying it?

GloryGlory
20-06-2018, 12:00 PM
Twitter won’t be saying any such thing.

Who’s twitter account is saying it?

It's in EEN quoting the player himself.

JimboHibs
20-06-2018, 12:02 PM
I think you're taking this Internet thing a bit too seriously, if I'm honest.

So its in jest now .... ok my reply was in jest.

Alan62
20-06-2018, 12:04 PM
sounds like he might be

http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town-linked-with-david-milinkovic-1-5568886

Of course, Milinkovic's agent now knows how much Genoa are willing to accept for him and can tout that figure round other clubs.

Far from done deal that one.

bingo70
20-06-2018, 12:06 PM
It's in EEN quoting the player himself.

So it’s the EEN reporting it, not twitter.

GloryGlory
20-06-2018, 12:10 PM
So it’s the EEN reporting it, not twitter.

Not a twitter user - there is a story on news now, linking to EEN

bingo70
20-06-2018, 12:13 PM
Not a twitter user - there is a story on news now, linking to EEN

Sorry I’m being a bit of a dick here, it’s one of my pet hates though when people start posting that the rumour is from Facebook or twitter. There’s a huge variation reliability depending on who’s twitter page or Facebook page it is.

The credibility of the rumour will be determined by who’s twitter feed it is so I can’t understand why people don’t mention that.

ian cruise
20-06-2018, 12:13 PM
Mallan? Allan? or is there another name?

Given crazy's posting history on this thread I'd take that with a pinch of salt. Next hell be telling you it's a 2pm announcement

GloryGlory
20-06-2018, 12:19 PM
Sorry I’m being a bit of a dick here, it’s one of my pet hates though when people start posting that the rumour is from Facebook or twitter. There’s a huge variation reliability depending on who’s twitter page or Facebook page it is.

The credibility of the rumour will be determined by who’s twitter feed it is so I can’t understand why people don’t mention that.

Daily Record also now picked up the story.

danhibees1875
20-06-2018, 12:27 PM
Ali Crawford on trial at hearts. Thought I read on here he hates them because they let him go as a young laddie for being too wee

Even if that was true, footballers get over things pretty quickly when teams are offering them money. :agree:

He'd be a decent signing for them, as would that Milinkovic chap.

Heisenberg
20-06-2018, 12:33 PM
Seems Lennon enquired about signing Izaguirre but he didn’t want to come back to Scotland.

IanM
20-06-2018, 02:34 PM
sounds like he might be

http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town-linked-with-david-milinkovic-1-5568886

Hearts have pulled the deal - news story now ok EEN

Heisenberg
20-06-2018, 02:37 PM
Hearts have pulled the deal - news story now ok EEN

They’ve also just announced the signing of another random journeyman from Australia. Their squad is huge now. That Milinkovic was decent so good news that it seems he’s not signing for them.

SHODAN
20-06-2018, 02:40 PM
Hearts are being linked with another striker too. They're going to have an entirely new starting XI at this rate.

ToffeeCabbage
20-06-2018, 02:41 PM
Hearts have just announced another signing. Oliver Bozanic, Midfielder, 7 caps for Australia.
Are they just signing every player an agent phones them up about? Crazy.
Milinkovic deal is dead though apparently. Shame. The more dross from last season they sign up the better. Hoping they sign Naismith up again soon

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SHODAN
20-06-2018, 02:46 PM
Just checked - they're two defenders short of an XI made out of entirely new players. Mental.

Surely some players will be leaving soon with this transfer activity? (i.e. Lafferty)

SirDavidsNapper
20-06-2018, 02:47 PM
Twitter saying we were after Izaguirre (sp) but he knocked us back

If that's the standard of player we're looking to bring in i'd be very impressed.

Mikey
20-06-2018, 02:52 PM
Hearts have pulled the deal - news story now ok EEN

The thread on Kickback is hilarious. Here's a snippet....


Hope his next *****s a ****** hedgehog.


What a disingenuous little arsewipe Milinkovic is.

Thecat23
20-06-2018, 03:09 PM
I think they will sell Lafferty before the window shuts.

007 Mickey Weir
20-06-2018, 03:11 PM
The thread on Kickback is hilarious. Here's a snippet....

We I couldn’t agree more with the second quote. Hahahahahearts

Borderhibbie76
20-06-2018, 03:13 PM
I think they will sell Lafferty before the window shuts.He must be offski...he's their only real sellable asset I'd say and they will have to offload

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SHODAN
20-06-2018, 03:15 PM
He must be offski...he's their only real sellable asset I'd say and they will have to offload

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There's no way they can sign the number of players they have without offloading Mr 6 Grand or whatever ridiculous sum of money they paid him to price us out.

Borderhibbie76
20-06-2018, 03:16 PM
There's no way they can sign the number of players they have without offloading Mr 6 Grand or whatever ridiculous sum of money they paid him to price us out.They really will be the Journeyman XI if he is off...

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Borderhibbie76
20-06-2018, 03:18 PM
They will have signed a crazy 10 players once they sign this Austrian defender...10 players unreal

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Hermit Crab
20-06-2018, 03:19 PM
Our next signing will be on a 3 year deal


:flag:


Will they have a name?


Mallan? Allan? or is there another name?



:troll:

Ozyhibby
20-06-2018, 03:22 PM
They will have signed a crazy 10 players once they sign this Austrian defender...10 players unreal

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They have a squad of 33 as it stands.


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Thecat23
20-06-2018, 03:27 PM
He must be offski...he's their only real sellable asset I'd say and they will have to offload

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Yeah I think they’d want to cash in on him while they still can.

1875er
20-06-2018, 03:29 PM
Stokes training with St Mirren according to Twitter......

HibbyAndy
20-06-2018, 03:30 PM
Surely that wee snivelling hacking diving little runt Naismith is away ? No danger they can afford his wages ?

Billy Whizz
20-06-2018, 03:33 PM
Surely that wee snivelling hacking diving little runt Naismith is away ? No danger they can afford his wages ?

He’ll only be at Hearts if he agrees a payoff from Norwich

SouthMoroccoStu
20-06-2018, 03:37 PM
Does anyone else think our favourable European draws today could see us as a better prospect for players signing?

Heisenberg
20-06-2018, 03:45 PM
Stokes training with St Mirren according to Twitter......

He’ll probably sign and bring his top performances every time we face them. Good player on his day but causes so many issues off the field.

sauzee=legend
20-06-2018, 03:47 PM
Sorry if already posted but never saw this:

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hibernian/hibs-fail-in-bid-to-sign-former-celtic-star-emilio-izaguirre-1-4757221

SHODAN
20-06-2018, 03:47 PM
He’ll only be at Hearts if he agrees a payoff from Norwich

They can't sign 10+ players AND keep Lafferty AND sign Naismith. Unless they plan to go into admin again.

ancient hibee
20-06-2018, 03:53 PM
Does anyone else think our favourable European draws today could see us as a better prospect for players signing?
Not me.

Aldo
20-06-2018, 04:03 PM
They can't sign 10+ players AND keep Lafferty AND sign Naismith. Unless they plan to go into admin again.

Surely you should get it... it’s what BIG teams do according to my yam associates.

They will be pushing for second and should easily finish top 4 with this new squad.... all this according to my yam associates.

They are also looking at a 6ft 5 striker who is apparently desperate to sign for them. A squad of 35 to 40 first team players!


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PatHead
20-06-2018, 04:07 PM
Surely you should get it... it’s what BIG teams do according to my yam associates.

They will be pushing for second and should easily finish top 4 with this new squad.... all this according to my yam associates.

They are also looking at a 6ft 5 striker who is apparently desperate to sign for them. A squad of 35 to 40 first team players!


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They need a big squad for the European tournament. It’s what Big clubs do. Also a lot of their super duper youngsters have their prelims in December and exams in spring so won’t be available.

Aldo
20-06-2018, 04:08 PM
They need a big squad for the European tournament. It’s what Big clubs do.

Indeed. Wonder how many teams they will enter into Gorgie Gala Day??


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Jim44
20-06-2018, 04:23 PM
Sorry if already posted but never saw this:

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hibernian/hibs-fail-in-bid-to-sign-former-celtic-star-emilio-izaguirre-1-4757221

First I’ve seen of it as well. Interesting points about relationships with agents. You would expect agents and players to be reading from the same hymn sheet but not according to what he has to say.

SMAXXA
20-06-2018, 04:34 PM
I think they will sell Lafferty before the window shuts.

Queue the Lafferty contract extension announcement Now you’ve said this 😂😋

guthrie01
20-06-2018, 04:49 PM
Seen Scotty Allan just liked Hibs Instagram post about Europe 👀

superfurryhibby
20-06-2018, 05:00 PM
First I’ve seen of it as well. Interesting points about relationships with agents. You would expect agents and players to be reading from the same hymn sheet but not according to what he has to say.

That went under the radar somewhat. Would have been a good signing. Showing our intent and continuing drive for quality.

Hibernianinc
20-06-2018, 05:20 PM
There's no way they can sign the number of players they have without offloading Mr 6 Grand or whatever ridiculous sum of money they paid him to price us out.

Mr 12 grand.

Very reliable source with long-standing connections with the muppets.

Thecat23
20-06-2018, 05:24 PM
Queue the Lafferty contract extension announcement Now you’ve said this 😂😋

😂 new 5 year deal.

Beefster
20-06-2018, 05:36 PM
So its in jest now .... ok my reply was in jest.

No, I was 100% saying what I think. It is a beamer for him after he gave media interviews about going down south.

My comment about taking it too seriously was referring to you getting a bit touchy about me having a mild dig at someone on trial at Hearts.

bodhibs
20-06-2018, 07:00 PM
Press reporting Adam Rooney out of favour at Aberdeen and may be going to DUFC. Always rated him, anyone else think he'd be worth a punt?

Smartie
20-06-2018, 07:15 PM
Press reporting Adam Rooney out of favour at Aberdeen and may be going to DUFC. Always rated him, anyone else think he'd be worth a punt?

I used to like him as a player, but every time I saw him play against us this season I thought he was a passenger.

SouthMoroccoStu
20-06-2018, 07:24 PM
I used to like him as a player, but every time I saw him play against us this season I thought he was a passenger.

Totally agreed

Big move for Dundee Utd - they need out of the championship

Aldo
20-06-2018, 07:39 PM
Mr 12 grand.

Very reliable source with long-standing connections with the muppets.

Not denying your source but if this is true it’s totally crazy. Especially for a team out with the ugly sisters in the West


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Tug Wilson
20-06-2018, 07:39 PM
Currently Wikipedia has 35 players in the Hearts squad.

We have 19!

However, I would imagine that a number of the Riccarton wunderkind will be loaned out to lower division sides come August.

There must be players leaving (Sammon, etc). And there is the ghost of Malaury Martin in there as well. Still can't see much room for more players to come in.

In contrast, we still need to bring in 4 or 5 new players. No panic yet. Going for Izagurrie shows intent to get quality.

KWJ
20-06-2018, 07:54 PM
Is Scott Allan still signed up and paying for HSL?

Seems an odd, but great, thing to be doing as a Celtic player. I can't imagine their fans or suits would be too chuffed.

KWJ
20-06-2018, 07:55 PM
Oh and guessing Emilio just didn't fancy being backup to wee Lewy. 😃

jacomo
20-06-2018, 08:14 PM
Is Scott Allan still signed up and paying for HSL?

Seems an odd, but great, thing to be doing as a Celtic player. I can't imagine their fans or suits would be too chuffed.


He’ll probably cancel his subs if he switches to a Hibs contract!

neil7908
20-06-2018, 08:23 PM
Mr 12 grand.

Very reliable source with long-standing connections with the muppets.

Wow, that's a truly astonishing amount of money for a team of their size to splash out. They have clearly leant nothing over the last few years. Considering that, the money spent on Naismith last season and their sweeping up of all manner of huddies this season it can't be long until things start to unravel for them.

Famous Fiver
20-06-2018, 08:47 PM
I've not trawled through all of this thread but I just can't get over how many players Hearts are signing.

I am sure somebody has got a handle on the definite numbers but as far as I can see they have signed or are planning to sign at least 9 or 10 players, as well as the ( I read somewhere 9) youngsters they have just put on professional contracts. There is an Aussie and a Czech reportedly on the way in and they are negotiating for the boy Milinovic.

They have relaid their pitch at a cost of a million or thereabouts, reportedly spent upwards of £15 million on an unfinished stand, and are reportedly paying the likes of Martin 3 grand a week not to play for them.

They are negotiating to keep Naismith.

Can anybody put a handle on how much this is costing them?

Are they just p*ssing away the FOH money and the donations from 'benefactors'? There is no way these sort of sums are being covered by profits from football and commercial activities such as renting out their 'conference space'.

I am no accountant but I am gobsmacked.

a) where is all the money coming from?
b) they are spending like there is no tomorrow.

Anyone else think the same?

Tug Wilson
20-06-2018, 09:11 PM
I've not trawled through all of this thread but I just can't get over how many players Hearts are signing.

I am sure somebody has got a handle on the definite numbers but as far as I can see they have signed or are planning to sign at least 9 or 10 players, as well as the ( I read somewhere 9) youngsters they have just put on professional contracts. There is an Aussie and a Czech reportedly on the way in and they are negotiating for the boy Milinovic.

They have relaid their pitch at a cost of a million or thereabouts, reportedly spent upwards of £15 million on an unfinished stand, and are reportedly paying the likes of Martin 3 grand a week not to play for them.

They are negotiating to keep Naismith.

Can anybody put a handle on how much this is costing them?

Are they just p*ssing away the FOH money and the donations from 'benefactors'? There is no way these sort of sums are being covered by profits from football and commercial activities such as renting out their 'conference space'.

I am no accountant but I am gobsmacked.

a) where is all the money coming from?
b) they are spending like there is no tomorrow.

Anyone else think the same?

Agreed.

They will have to start shedding players soon.

theonlywayisup
20-06-2018, 09:17 PM
I've not trawled through all of this thread but I just can't get over how many players Hearts are signing.

I am sure somebody has got a handle on the definite numbers but as far as I can see they have signed or are planning to sign at least 9 or 10 players, as well as the ( I read somewhere 9) youngsters they have just put on professional contracts. There is an Aussie and a Czech reportedly on the way in and they are negotiating for the boy Milinovic.

They have relaid their pitch at a cost of a million or thereabouts, reportedly spent upwards of £15 million on an unfinished stand, and are reportedly paying the likes of Martin 3 grand a week not to play for them.

They are negotiating to keep Naismith.

Can anybody put a handle on how much this is costing them?

Are they just p*ssing away the FOH money and the donations from 'benefactors'? There is no way these sort of sums are being covered by profits from football and commercial activities such as renting out their 'conference space'.

I am no accountant but I am gobsmacked.

a) where is all the money coming from?
b) they are spending like there is no tomorrow.

Anyone else think the same?

In a way, it feels a bit like when Cathro came in and suddenly 9 or 10 players were suddenly recruited from no-where. Everyone thought they were Cathro signings but no way was that the case. I really hope the new batch are as succesful as the current batch. The common denominator in both cases is Levein.

ancient hibee
20-06-2018, 09:26 PM
In a way, it feels a bit like when Cathro came in and suddenly 9 or 10 players were suddenly recruited from no-where. Everyone thought they were Cathro signings but no way was that the case. I really hope the new batch are as succesful as the current batch. The common denominator in both cases is Levein.
John Colquhoun smoking bigger cigars?

Incidentally 100 page thread and only 1 player signed.Archivists could no doubt tell us if this is a record for the summer transfer thread.

Thecat23
20-06-2018, 09:26 PM
In a way, it feels a bit like when Cathro came in and suddenly 9 or 10 players were suddenly recruited from no-where. Everyone thought they were Cathro signings but no way was that the case. I really hope the new batch are as succesful as the current batch. The common denominator in both cases is Levein.

This is how I see it. You simply can’t just throw so many random ***** together and think they are good quality. It’s rebuild after rebuild and it doesn’t work. We are now in the market for good quality players not journeymen who offer nothing like the previous years.

CorrieHibs
20-06-2018, 10:08 PM
They love signing an Aussie these days Hearts. Second one this window.

Colquhoun got a hoose there or McGowan scouting his pals?

Ozyhibby
21-06-2018, 04:57 AM
They love signing an Aussie these days Hearts. Second one this window.

Colquhoun got a hoose there or McGowan scouting his pals?

Think it’s their third Aussie this window.


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Forza Fred
21-06-2018, 05:05 AM
They love signing an Aussie these days Hearts. Second one this window.

Colquhoun got a hoose there or McGowan scouting his pals?

dunno if he had anything to do with this lot, but Dave HEE HAW McPherson was tied up with an agent here...

As for the three Aussies so far two mediocre at best....and one I have never heard of..

Fuzzywuzzy
21-06-2018, 05:29 AM
Banders is stating that hearts pulled the plug on milinkovic not the other way round. Way to save face baz🤡

GlesgaeHibby
21-06-2018, 05:46 AM
In a way, it feels a bit like when Cathro came in and suddenly 9 or 10 players were suddenly recruited from no-where. Everyone thought they were Cathro signings but no way was that the case. I really hope the new batch are as succesful as the current batch. The common denominator in both cases is Levein.

Scatter gun approach. Sign 9 or 10 and hope to find 2 or 3 gems. Didn't work out so well for them in Cathro's2janiary window and hope it has same result here. They will struggle big time if lafferty is sold.

Hibernianinc
21-06-2018, 05:52 AM
Wow, that's a truly astonishing amount of money for a team of their size to splash out. They have clearly leant nothing over the last few years. Considering that, the money spent on Naismith last season and their sweeping up of all manner of huddies this season it can't be long until things start to unravel for them.

Naismith was £8k.

Its bonkers money and I can't see it ending anything other than badly.

timewilltell
21-06-2018, 06:49 AM
Ali Crawford gone to Hearts

NorthNorfolkHFC
21-06-2018, 06:51 AM
Ali Crawford gone to Hearts

Is he not on a trial?


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Wheat Hound
21-06-2018, 06:55 AM
Is he not on a trial?


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He will be soon if he stays at Hearts....

jacomo
21-06-2018, 07:07 AM
Ali Crawford gone to Hearts


Good luck to him on a personal level.

But hardly the move he wanted, surely?

It would suggest that negotiations for Scotty Allan are making good progress.

Greenworld
21-06-2018, 07:49 AM
I just want some hibs announcements [emoji849][emoji849]

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Borderhibbie76
21-06-2018, 08:11 AM
Press reporting Adam Rooney out of favour at Aberdeen and may be going to DUFC. Always rated him, anyone else think he'd be worth a punt?A year ago I'd have been delighted to sign Rooney but he looked pretty average most of last season and couldn't get a game over Stevie May...who is rank

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Bostonhibby
21-06-2018, 08:34 AM
They love signing an Aussie these days Hearts. Second one this window.

Colquhoun got a hoose there or McGowan scouting his pals?Cheaper by the container load apparently

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Ronniekirk
21-06-2018, 10:19 AM
They will have signed a crazy 10 players once they sign this Austrian defender...10 players unreal

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So are they back to living out with their means and dining out on mysterious benefactors


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Ronniekirk
21-06-2018, 10:24 AM
He’ll probably sign and bring his top performances every time we face them. Good player on his day but causes so many issues off the field.

All the Saints fans I know don't want him Team harmony for them is crucial . Although at some point he needs to screw the nut .Stubbs will see how he does in Training and how he is mentally before offering a contract


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Ronniekirk
21-06-2018, 10:36 AM
I've not trawled through all of this thread but I just can't get over how many players Hearts are signing.

I am sure somebody has got a handle on the definite numbers but as far as I can see they have signed or are planning to sign at least 9 or 10 players, as well as the ( I read somewhere 9) youngsters they have just put on professional contracts. There is an Aussie and a Czech reportedly on the way in and they are negotiating for the boy Milinovic.

They have relaid their pitch at a cost of a million or thereabouts, reportedly spent upwards of £15 million on an unfinished stand, and are reportedly paying the likes of Martin 3 grand a week not to play for them.

They are negotiating to keep Naismith.

Can anybody put a handle on how much this is costing them?

Are they just p*ssing away the FOH money and the donations from 'benefactors'? There is no way these sort of sums are being covered by profits from football and commercial activities such as renting out their 'conference space'.

I am no accountant but I am gobsmacked.

a) where is all the money coming from?
b) they are spending like there is no tomorrow.

Anyone else think the same?

We have just over 2 ,O00 HSL members now and look at the difference that has made Do they not have nearer 10,OOO members Ann Budge shifting money about and Anonymous donors . Yet they still can't finish the Stand
Clearly they want to remain in top six by playing non football again Levine making. I Secret of that


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Smartie
21-06-2018, 10:49 AM
So are they back to living out with their means and dining out on mysterious benefactors


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I suspect John Colquhoun might have a few quid behind him from somewhere the next time they're looking for a wealthy Jambo to bail them out.

Smartie
21-06-2018, 10:51 AM
All the Saints fans I know don't want him Team harmony for them is crucial . Although at some point he needs to screw the nut .Stubbs will see how he does in Training and how he is mentally before offering a contract


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I can't believe how easily people can forget how good he can actually be when he's on his game though.

O'Rourke3
21-06-2018, 10:53 AM
The fact that we didnt sign Ali Crawford should tell people that the other signings mentioned are pretty much there. 100% we were ready to buy him at the end end of the season. Lennon a fan of his. He will be a great signing for Hearts if he goes there.

He needs to play football and intereting that none of the the other premiership clubs could get him over the line or fancied him enough. Hearts were his least favoured club given he'd just be looking at the ball going back and forward over his head.... Straight from his Dad a couple of moths back.

eezyrider
21-06-2018, 10:55 AM
I see that Stokes is currently training with St Mirren.

https://stv.tv/sport/football/1419808-free-agent-anthony-stokes-training-with-st-mirren/

Hopefully his next move works out better for him than the last one.

EZ