NO to reconstruction

[jacomo]

Three months slagging off ND ,now he's on the discipline committee at UEFA. Jambo's must be loving this.. [emoji16]

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The timing for Hearts could not be worse.

Petrie will be pulling strings as well.

[Joe6-2]

It’s clear they aren’t going to stop Its going to be relentless unless their is a counter media campaign to co yet them and then both parties agree to let the Courts deal with it
But at present Hearts are getting it all their own way so will be interesting to see if they gather other converts or whether the media get fed up with it
But the current vacuum just now is working g in their favour But people will get sick of hearing about it if they have nothing new to say ,and they have done it to death already


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Let them get on with it, didn’t work for reconstruction and it won’t work now!

[Dibben]

I really hope at the end of all this the Jambos fully understand the real difference between relegation and expulsion... as they would have been through both!

Can you imagine the crowds as Hearts start their comeback in the Sunday leagues!!?

[grunt]

Can you imagine the crowds as Hearts start their comeback in the Sunday leagues!!?Can you imagine the shock on Kickback if they were really expelled?

Actually, that's going too far - it would be horrible for any football fan to have their club expelled from the league system.

[Ozyhibby]

Can you imagine the shock on Kickback if they were really expelled?

Actually, that's going too far - it would be horrible for any football fan to have their club expelled from the league system.

The shock on Kickback when they lose their case or, more likely, step down from their legal action will be fun enough.


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[Lancs Harp]

Can you imagine the shock on Kickback if they were really expelled?

Actually, that's going too far - it would be horrible for any football fan to have their club expelled from the league system.

The Jambos being the Jambos they will probably be expecting the EPL to beg them to join them down South. I mean who can afford to miss out on a club that regularly gets 400,000 gates.

[hibsbollah]

Can you imagine the shock on Kickback if they were really expelled?

Actually, that's going too far - it would be horrible for any football fan to have their club expelled from the league system.

I wonder if there’s any precedent for this in world football? I know teams have been demoted, expelled from leagues for financial mismanagement, but expelled for mendacious legal challenges and just overall general ersehole behaviour and being roundly disliked by everyone else? It’s a serious question

[Iggy Pope]

I wonder if there’s any precedent for this in world football? I know teams have been demoted, expelled from leagues for financial mismanagement, but expelled for mendacious legal challenges and just overall general ersehole behaviour and being roundly disliked by everyone else? It’s a serious question

Let’s get this into the constitution right away. Scratch that itch!

[Irish_Steve]

The Jambos being the Jambos they will probably be expecting the EPL to beg them to join them down South. I mean who can afford to miss out on a club that regularly gets 400,000 gates.

You may be joking but over on Brokeback they are discussing that as Bury are now no longer - means "there`s a space available" according to some of them!

[Bostonhibby]

You may be joking but over on Brokeback they are discussing that as Bury are now no longer - means "there`s a space available" according to some of them!They don't completely understand the pyramid system in England. If they were supported by sufficient members and the FA wanted a Scottish team that had recently had an administration event in their set up, they'd need to gain entry into the Northern Premier League by election or maybe even qualifying from an even lower level.

They'd be some way off making league two even if they were promoted every year.

Plenty English clubs vying for progression so why would the existing members welcome Hearts and all that entails?

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[dchibs]

You may be joking but over on Brokeback they are discussing that as Bury are now no longer - means "there`s a space available" according to some of them!

Can we just Bury them now RiP.

[weecounty hibby]

They don't completely understand the pyramid system in England. If they were supported by sufficient members and the FA wanted a Scottish team that had recently had an administration event in their set up, they'd need to gain entry into the Northern Premier League by election or maybe even qualifying from an even lower level.

They'd be some way off making league two even if they were promoted every year.

Plenty English clubs vying for progression so why would the existing members welcome Hearts and all that entails?

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FFS have you not been following any of this. It's because they are big and famous and have 400,000 fans!!

[Bostonhibby]

FFS have you not been following any of this. It's because they are big and famous and have 400,000 fans!!So it's nothing to do with Chips or a view of a school roof then?

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[jacomo]

Can you imagine the shock on Kickback if they were really expelled?

Actually, that's going too far - it would be horrible for any football fan to have their club expelled from the league system.


Let’s hope the more sensible Jambos can talk them down from the ledge then.

[Spike Mandela]

Let’s hope the more sensible Jambos can talk them down from the ledge then.

The SFA won’t do anything. They never did anything when Rangers took them to Court of Session.

[mjhibby]

Let’s hope the more sensible Jambos can talk them down from the ledge then.

Not going to happen. I know a few so called sensible jambos and they are going with mob rule I’m afraid. Hell mend them. They are getting so like sevco with each passing day.

[007]

The SFA won’t do anything. They never did anything when Rangers took them to Court of Session.

They only need to threaten to expel them. The same as how Hearts are threatening to apply for an interim interdict to stop football from restarting but won't actually do it. Back down or you're expelled.

[Jim44]

You may be joking but over on Brokeback they are discussing that as Bury are now no longer - means "there`s a space available" according to some of them!


Can we just Bury them now RiP.

They could rename themselves - ‘Deadandburied’.

[Keith_M]

Can you imagine the shock on Kickback if they were really expelled?

Actually, that's going too far - it would be horrible for any football fan to have their club expelled from the league system.


You know I'd normally agree with that but I'm struggling to have any sympathy for them now.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

TE has been very quiet on Twitter. It's almost as if he's had an Epiphany and realised he's ****ed up

[Green Blood]

TE has been very quiet on Twitter. It's almost as if he's had an Epiphany and realised he's ****ed up

He was only Bodge's mouthpiece and his role was to do everything he could to keep them up by spouting lies, pish etc. Now they are down for good, Bodge has furloughed him.

[calumhibee1]

You know I'd normally agree with that but I'm struggling to have any sympathy for them now.

Yup. Near enough to a man their fans are kicking and screaming wrongdoing and hoping clubs go bust.

I’d piss myself if they got expelled.

[Stanton Spence]

You know I'd normally agree with that but I'm struggling to have any sympathy for them now.I feel the same way mate
I'm also sure that the benefactors namely James Anderson won't want anything to do with dragging Scottish football through the courts and in doing so folding many clubs. I've always wanted to see them struggle etc but never out the box completely. I'm now at the stage where I couldn't give a **** if they were no longer here or even in the guise of THE HOMFC.
I've read mostly on here that clubs can't take their association to court and FIFA has the power to force the SFA to take their licence away and stop them from competing in the SPFL and the Scottish Cup. Is there anyone on here who knows for sure if this is fact and has it happened anywhere else?

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[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/woodstockjag/status/1273304860402778113

Great thread from one of the UK govs Constitutional lawyers and jags fan

[Caversham Green]

TE has been very quiet on Twitter. It's almost as if he's had an Epiphany and realised he's ****ed up

English has to bear some of the blame for things reaching this point. His unbalanced and irresponsible reporting on a national broadcaster has helped to stir up the Hearts fans into a frezy and left Budge with little option but to go ahead with her misguided legal challenge. He'd do well to stay quiet now before he does any more damage.

[greenpaper55]

English has to bear some of the blame for things reaching this point. His unbalanced and irresponsible reporting on a national broadcaster has helped to stir up the Hearts fans into a frezy and left Budge with little option but to go ahead with her misguided legal challenge. He'd do well to stay quiet now before he does any more damage.

Exactly, i wonder if he has had a phone call from on high at the BBC to put a sock in it ?

[Jim44]

TE has been very quiet on Twitter. It's almost as if he's had an Epiphany and realised he's ****ed up


He was only Bodge's mouthpiece and his role was to do everything he could to keep them up by spouting lies, pish etc. Now they are down for good, Bodge has furloughed him.


English has to bear some of the blame for things reaching this point. His unbalanced and irresponsible reporting on a national broadcaster has helped to stir up the Hearts fans into a frezy and left Budge with little option but to go ahead with her misguided legal challenge. He'd do well to stay quiet now before he does any more damage.


Exactly, i wonder if he has had a phone call from on high at the BBC to put a sock in it ?

What do they say about rats and sinking ships, again? However, I think English is too arrogant and full of self importance to sit back for too long. He’ll make cameo gestures of support on their behalf, probably, but he won’t want to be a media martyr when the crunch comes.

[Aldo]

Exactly, i wonder if he has had a phone call from on high at the BBC to put a sock in it ?

Not a peep from the man that has had the most to say in all this. Rings clipped or maybe not man d ought to put his hand up and say I hit it wrong, very wrong!


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[JeMeSouviens]

https://mobile.twitter.com/woodstockjag/status/1273304860402778113

Great thread from one of the UK govs Constitutional lawyers and jags fan

Interesting, thanks.

[Joe6-2]

Yup. Near enough to a man their fans are kicking and screaming wrongdoing and hoping clubs go bust.

I’d piss myself if they got expelled.

I for one would love it

[Since452]

Exactly, i wonder if he has had a phone call from on high at the BBC to put a sock in it ?

I think someone's had a quiet word with him

[Kojock]

Exactly, i wonder if he has had a phone call from on high at the BBC to put a sock in it ?

He was on the BBC scotland podcast on Wednesday challenging anyone who would listen to come on the programme and argue their point with him.

[FilipinoHibs]

I think someone's had a quiet word with him

There has been an avalanche of complaints about his bias. Sure the BBC lawyers are looking at current developments and told him to shut ii.

On another note I have lost all patience with Hearts. If we never see them again it will be too soon.

[Scotty Leither]

If you get any tomato-soup stained beige-cardigan clad Jambo frothing at you that "everybody voted to relegate 'the Hertz', just politely remind them that a democratic vote was held to call the league. at which point "the Hertz" were bottom of said league, and as a by-product of that vote were relegated.

There was no vote "so do you want to relegate Hearts?".

If their eyes haven't glazed over by that point, tell them that subsequent discussions/votes to reconstruct the top league to 14 teams were roundly rejected by the vast majority of clubs; once again the by-product of that vote meant that "the Hertz" remained (as they had become by that point), a Championship club.

In summary, present them with a few FACTS, and then retreat to a socially acceptable safe distance (about a mile away to be on the safe side), and be sure to be wearing PPE, as you watch them spontaneously combust before your very eyes.

[matty_f]

If you get any tomato-soup stained beige-cardigan clad Jambo frothing at you that "everybody voted to relegate 'the Hertz', just politely remind them that a democratic vote was held to call the league. at which point "the Hertz" were bottom of said league, and as a by-product of that vote were relegated.

There was no vote "so do you want to relegate Hearts?".

If their eyes haven't glazed over by that point, tell them that subsequent discussions/votes to reconstruct the top league to 14 teams were roundly rejected by the vast majority of clubs; once again the by-product of that vote meant that "the Hertz" remained (as they had become by that point), a Championship club.

In summary, present them with a few FACTS, and then retreat to a socially acceptable safe distance (about a mile away to be on the safe side), and be sure to be wearing PPE, as you watch them spontaneously combust before your very eyes.

I've been banging that drum for a while now - the proposals were voted down because they were rubbish, Hearts were neither here nor there in the considerations save for a few sympathetic clubs.

The media have had a totally myopic view on the reconstruction debate, all they talked about was Hearts and Partick and never explored the proposed set up in any meaningful way.

It was booted out because it was rubbish. Hearts, believing the world revolves around them, were just too blinkered to see that.

[mal]

This is interesting: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53220498

"The SPFL has described the strain on fixtures as "enormous", with just one spare week to play any postponed games before the split. In other words, we need to hope for a warm and dry Scottish winter...

How are they fitting them all in?
With some difficulty, is the short answer. Some clubs face playing up to four games in the space of eight days, though if everything goes smoothly then this will be avoided."

I'm pretty sure that Budge's reconstruction document claimed they had run the 14-team structure past Iain Blair and that he'd said it was do-able. Admittedly, the split in that format would be at an earlier stage of the season but I always thought that claim in the document was questionable and probably didn't take into account the European play-off which felt like a hastily-included afterthought. The fact remains that if 38 games is going to put a strain on the system then the 14-team league, which would require the bottom 8 to play 40 games, would clearly be worse. Add in the requirement for a play-off and (depending on what format was used for that - not that Budge even bothered to consider this) the 7th-placed team would be playing between 41 and 46 games.

[jacomo]

He was on the BBC scotland podcast on Wednesday challenging anyone who would listen to come on the programme and argue their point with him.


I tried to engage him on Twitter. He’s not interested in listening to any other opinion and was spouting nonsense.

[Waxy]

Here we go again.
Is it Budge or the Glasgow b team agenda?

[Bostonhibby]

Here we go again.
Is it Budge or the Glasgow b team agenda?Maybe Budge thinks it's best for Scottish football if the team that finishes 7th or 8th this season is automatically regarded as being top 6?

Just in case[emoji6]

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[Broken Gnome]

What a great nostalgia trip. Nowt to do but obsess over those muppets all day.

Page 276 is glorious.

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[Bostonhibby]

What a great nostalgia trip. Nowt to do but obsess over those muppets all day.

Page 276 is glorious.

Sent from my Pixel 6a using TapatalkWhen you have more time on your hands it's possible to have a range of interest and input to a number of things without ever reaching the standard of obsession [emoji6]

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[Jones28]

So is the champagne still on ice or..?

[KWJ]

I hope they don't do anything daft like the splits into 3 I've heard spouted which I recently saw Belgium are looking to scrap.