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EGL2000
06-01-2024, 05:56 PM
Ilkay Durmuz is in Edinburgh just now I see. Real fan favourite at St Mirren a few years back, wonder if he’s just holidaying here just now or moving clubs?!

Good little player. Looked to have done fairly well in Poland aswell. Maybe getting on a little now though at 29.

Bridge hibs
06-01-2024, 06:18 PM
Good little player. Looked to have done fairly well in Poland aswell. Maybe getting on a little now though at 29.

Little player ? He is 5” 11 😄

Chorley Hibee
06-01-2024, 08:35 PM
Heard from a few Motherwell supporting friends here in Motherwell that we've been sniffing around Mika Biereth.

I'd be surprised, but not wholly out of the equation.

Alex Trager
06-01-2024, 08:45 PM
Heard from a few Motherwell supporting friends here in Motherwell that we've been sniffing around Mika Biereth.

I'd be surprised, but not wholly out of the equation.

Looks a good player based on his stats.

stevie-bee
06-01-2024, 08:47 PM
Heard from a few Motherwell supporting friends here in Motherwell that we've been sniffing around Mika Biereth.

I'd be surprised, but not wholly out of the equation.

Is he the player that came on against us at fir park and totally changed the game

PHeffernan
06-01-2024, 08:53 PM
Is he the player that came on against us at fir park and totally changed the game

Yeah, ripped Stevenson up for their first goal and Fish for their second

CapitalGreen
06-01-2024, 08:53 PM
Is he the player that came on against us at fir park and totally changed the game

Yes

andrew70
06-01-2024, 09:19 PM
Heard from a few Motherwell supporting friends here in Motherwell that we've been sniffing around Mika Biereth.

I'd be surprised, but not wholly out of the equation.

He’s been recalled by Arsenal so you never know.

JohnM1875
06-01-2024, 09:25 PM
Heard from a few Motherwell supporting friends here in Motherwell that we've been sniffing around Mika Biereth.

I'd be surprised, but not wholly out of the equation.

Be happy with that if true

bingo70
06-01-2024, 09:36 PM
He’s been recalled by Arsenal so you never know.

I don’t think he’s been recalled by Arsenal but he’s back training with them during the winter break.

EGL2000
06-01-2024, 09:39 PM
Heard from a few Motherwell supporting friends here in Motherwell that we've been sniffing around Mika Biereth.

I'd be surprised, but not wholly out of the equation.

Looked very good when he first arrived. Felt he was pretty much anonymous at Easter road last week though.

Unseen work
06-01-2024, 09:45 PM
He’s been recalled by Arsenal so you never know.

Has he been recalled or only training with arsenal during our break?

Not seen confirmation anywhere

Unseen work
06-01-2024, 09:46 PM
Looked very good when he first arrived. Felt he was pretty much anonymous at Easter road last week though.

Certainly quieter than other games but still got 2 assists!

JammyDoidger
06-01-2024, 10:03 PM
You'd think Van Veen would be an obvious choice, would move back to Scotland, partner just had a baby, proven he can do it in this league, experience, character, quality, no sure why we've not tried? And the fact he's Dutch should help Vente. No brainer, but we never seem to go for the obvious options.

CapitalGreen
06-01-2024, 10:08 PM
You'd think Van Veen would be an obvious choice, would move back to Scotland, partner just had a baby, proven he can do it in this league, experience, character, quality, no sure why we've not tried? And the fact he's Dutch should help Vente. No brainer, but we never seem to go for the obvious options.

How much would he cost?

PHeffernan
06-01-2024, 11:23 PM
You'd think Van Veen would be an obvious choice, would move back to Scotland, partner just had a baby, proven he can do it in this league, experience, character, quality, no sure why we've not tried? And the fact he's Dutch should help Vente. No brainer, but we never seem to go for the obvious options.

I think the problem is his Dutch club want to sell him and for a load of logical reasons Scottish teams just want him on loan.
He is back in the Netherlands now but is still babbling to the media.

He is 33 in less than 5 months, Groningen paid circa £500k for him and he is on a good contract.
Hibs are not going to get involved in that. In 18 months he will be worthless.

Rangers would be the natural fit at this time. For a cheap, for them, £450k and matching his Groningen contract they would get a player who will score goals in Scotland whilst Danillo is injured. He had an arguement with his manager, in the course of which his language crossed a line and he has been on the bench since. There is also the issue of his gambling addiction so there is much to consider for a potential buyer.

PHeffernan
06-01-2024, 11:40 PM
I don’t think he’s been recalled by Arsenal but he’s back training with them during the winter break.

Correct.
Nothing in the media or from Arsenal or Motherwell to state otherwise.
Motherwell also punted another striker 2 days ago and they wouldn't have done that if they were going to lose Biereth.

Bridge hibs
07-01-2024, 04:51 AM
You'd think Van Veen would be an obvious choice, would move back to Scotland, partner just had a baby, proven he can do it in this league, experience, character, quality, no sure why we've not tried? And the fact he's Dutch should help Vente. No brainer, but we never seem to go for the obvious options.Lee Johnson used to speak double dutch and that never helped Vente 🫢

I agree though, I liked Van Veen when he played for Well, other than his goals he seemed to batter opposition defenders during games too, as has been mentioned though his current club are most likely selling rather than loaning and that along with wages and his age might be a bit too much for us

Stuart93
07-01-2024, 06:37 AM
Would’ve liked to have seen us go for Dhanda. Seems like he’s going to hearts

Wilson
07-01-2024, 06:47 AM
Would’ve liked to have seen us go for Dhanda. Seems like he’s going to hearts

Well. We can't compete with their universal appeal, limitless resources, or charismatic head coach.

We'll move down the list and hope Partick Thistle don't get in first.

Callum_62
07-01-2024, 07:10 AM
Would’ve liked to have seen us go for Dhanda. Seems like he’s going to heartsI like Dhanda but for some reason I just think he will never be consistently that good (similar to what I thought on Alan Forrest)

His goals and assist ratio are pretty poor but when I've seen him he's looked to have some quality about him



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Stuart93
07-01-2024, 07:27 AM
Well. We can't compete with their universal appeal, limitless resources, or charismatic head coach.

We'll move down the list and hope Partick Thistle don't get in first.

Is that part of the hearts partick thistle Stranraer multi club set up

Trinity Hibee
07-01-2024, 07:43 AM
I like Dhanda but for some reason I just think he will never be consistently that good (similar to what I thought on Alan Forrest)

His goals and assist ratio are pretty poor but when I've seen him he's looked to have some quality about him



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I agree with you. Don’t see him being good enough for us, Aberdeen, hearts.

Billy Whizz
07-01-2024, 07:55 AM
Well. We can't compete with their universal appeal, limitless resources, or charismatic head coach.

We'll move down the list and hope Partick Thistle don't get in first.

And probably gets free board in their new boutique hotel

keep the faith
07-01-2024, 08:47 AM
My main beef with the football side of things at hibs in recent years is our outright refusal to sign the obvious players.

Those players with talent but just short of the old firm. We used to be great at that (Fyvie,Allan, McGeough,etc). In recent years, obvious signings for us were the likes of barrie mackay, Shankand, van veen and Dhanda.
We are obsessed with finding unproven talent elsewhere and it drives me mad.

04Sauzee
07-01-2024, 08:58 AM
My main beef with the football side of things at hibs in recent years is our outright refusal to sign the obvious players.

Those players with talent but just short of the old firm. We used to be great at that (Fyvie,Allan, McGeough,etc). In recent years, obvious signings for us were the likes of barrie mackay, Shankand, van veen and Dhanda.
We are obsessed with finding unproven talent elsewhere and it drives me mad.

Did we not try and get Mackay?
Hibs fans can't agree on Dhanda so why should we be signing him?
I could be wrong but I think we had Nisbet when Shankland joined hearts, not sure we could afford them both.

green day
07-01-2024, 09:04 AM
Would’ve liked to have seen us go for Dhanda. Seems like he’s going to hearts

It think Dhanda is a "neat and tidy" kind of player, who shows flashes of excellent play - but he does seem to flit in and out of games, sometimes not influencing enough - and has also spent spells out of a pretty rank Ross County team.

No sure he is the answer for us.

andrew70
07-01-2024, 09:07 AM
Mayo, Armstrong, Dhanda from Scottish teams. Happy to let McDermott work his magic again though. He’s the one with all the contacts especially when we are probably looking at impactful loans.

greenlex
07-01-2024, 09:09 AM
It think Dhanda is a "neat and tidy" kind of player, who shows flashes of excellent play - but he does seem to flit in and out of games, sometimes not influencing enough - and has also spent spells out of a pretty rank Ross County team.

No sure he is the answer for us.
He’s a poor man’s Youan and I’m not even sure Youan is the answer if we want to be the best of the rest.

andrew70
07-01-2024, 09:10 AM
He’s a poor man’s Youan and I’m not even sure Youan is the answer if we want to be the best of the rest.

Totally different player.

The Modfather
07-01-2024, 09:15 AM
It think Dhanda is a "neat and tidy" kind of player, who shows flashes of excellent play - but he does seem to flit in and out of games, sometimes not influencing enough - and has also spent spells out of a pretty rank Ross County team.

No sure he is the answer for us.

Dhanda is probably the kind of squad player that would compliment a settled and balanced first team for a team competing for third. A bit like Alan Forrest at Hearts who has served them well.

Sadly we have a team full of squad players and need a spine of the first team signed in the next few windows.

Bridge hibs
07-01-2024, 09:15 AM
He’s a poor man’s Youan and I’m not even sure Youan is the answer if we want to be the best of the rest.

I agree, it seems to be a recurring theme on here that if a player plays well against us we should be signing them, there are the exceptions but it always crops up, Omeonga and Nouble with St Mirrens O’Hara are names constantly cropping up on here

Paulie Walnuts
07-01-2024, 09:19 AM
I agree, it seems to be a recurring theme on here that if a player plays well against us we should be signing them, there are the exceptions but it always crops up, Omeonga and Nouble with St Mirrens O’Hara are names constantly cropping up on here

To be fair, Mark O’Hara has generally been performing very well since signing for St Mirren, it’s not just against us.

Greenworld
07-01-2024, 09:20 AM
I think you are right, I saw Torino were mentioned again so here is hoping we won’t see Doig in blue.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDoig is also very happy in Italy and prefers to move to Torino his girlfriend goes to uni in Italy .

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greenlex
07-01-2024, 09:29 AM
Totally different player.
I was comparing the neat and tidy with flashes of excellence bit.

andrew70
07-01-2024, 09:37 AM
I was comparing the neat and tidy with flashes of excellence bit.

Fair. I like him. Think he’s got a bit more about him than he’s getting credit for. Plus he’s good on set pieces. Think his lack of County gametime is due to Mackay thinking defensively.

EGL2000
07-01-2024, 10:00 AM
Fair. I like him. Think he’s got a bit more about him than he’s getting credit for. Plus he’s good on set pieces. Think his lack of County gametime is due to Mackay thinking defensively.

I agree with this. He's definitely got some quality and feel like in a better team than county he would show alot more of it. That being said I wouldn't be going after him.

Nicho87
07-01-2024, 10:17 AM
I think we can and should aim to get better than dhanda

Stuart93
07-01-2024, 10:28 AM
I think we can and should aim to get better than dhanda

I don’t think signing players who’re performing well for lesser teams in our league is a bad policy

Walter
07-01-2024, 10:32 AM
Doig is also very happy in Italy and prefers to move to Torino his girlfriend goes to uni in Italy .

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Why would you leave Italian football, lifestyle, food and women for the uglies ?

Alex Trager
07-01-2024, 10:56 AM
Why would you leave Italian football, lifestyle, food and women for the uglies ?

Seems an unusual selling point the women whilst quoting a post talking about his girlfriend.

If there are bids in for him from other Italian teams, or indeed from Leeds, lets hope he goes there.

Tavernier spoke to him one game at FT at Ibrox, hopefully he never took any notice.

Unseen work
07-01-2024, 11:01 AM
Yan Dhanda is a Euan Henderson type of player for me.

A lot of assists will come from corners and free kicks, score a few good goals a season.

Main thing he does is hang about on the wing, touch out his feet and whip in a cross to the big striker in Jordan White.

He’s got a good touch, neat and tidy and can play a good pass aswell as beating a man.

Put Henderson in the Ross County team with similar instructions and I think his stats would be good too.

Not sure how he is across 90 minutes or if he proper dictates/takes games to the others.

Decent player though, not sure if brilliant however he’d probably walk into our starting eleven if we played today!

Unseen work
07-01-2024, 11:06 AM
https://x.com/chris0brien/status/1743966702235271523?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-primed-to-land-leeds-united-defender-on-loan-4468968

B.H.F.C
07-01-2024, 11:12 AM
https://x.com/chris0brien/status/1743966702235271523?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-primed-to-land-leeds-united-defender-on-loan-4468968

When this is confirmed as our first signing of the window I’m not anticipating a particularly positive reaction.

Brightside
07-01-2024, 11:18 AM
When this is confirmed as our first signing of the window I’m not anticipating a particularly positive reaction.

I think fans need to be prepared then. Its the jan window and there wont be much more than a few loans.

B.H.F.C
07-01-2024, 11:33 AM
I think fans need to be prepared then. Its the jan window and there wont be much more than a few loans.

Loans are fine. But if it’s a loan that involves a player who has never played a senior game, I don’t think it’ll give many people confidence that our defensive issues will be solved.

Ozyhibby
07-01-2024, 11:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtD1iM-A1HQ Oscar Zambrano.

Tbf watching this he looks very physically ready for UK football. He's a DM as well.

Dream come true for me if we sign a DM that can tackle and play a bit of football. [emoji122]


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Hibee Mac
07-01-2024, 11:44 AM
https://x.com/chris0brien/status/1743966702235271523?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-primed-to-land-leeds-united-defender-on-loan-4468968How long have we been saying that we need proven players and not youth team players from down south. I know you have made this very point a few times over the last few seasons and nothing seems to change.

We're going nowhere with signings like this, recruitment at this club still leaves so much to be desired.

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Nicho87
07-01-2024, 11:44 AM
Yan Dhanda is a Euan Henderson type of player for me.

A lot of assists will come from corners and free kicks, score a few good goals a season.

Main thing he does is hang about on the wing, touch out his feet and whip in a cross to the big striker in Jordan White.

He’s got a good touch, neat and tidy and can play a good pass aswell as beating a man.

Put Henderson in the Ross County team with similar instructions and I think his stats would be good too.

Not sure how he is across 90 minutes or if he proper dictates/takes games to the others.

Decent player though, not sure if brilliant however he’d probably walk into our starting eleven if we played today!

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ewan-henderson/leistungsdaten/spieler/447066

Zero assists and zero goals at Ross county previously

I’d be taking any fee for Henderson, lightweight and not good enough

Just like Melkerson and Hague

JammyDoidger
07-01-2024, 11:51 AM
My main beef with the football side of things at hibs in recent years is our outright refusal to sign the obvious players.

Those players with talent but just short of the old firm. We used to be great at that (Fyvie,Allan, McGeough,etc). In recent years, obvious signings for us were the likes of barrie mackay, Shankand, van veen and Dhanda.
We are obsessed with finding unproven talent elsewhere and it drives me mad.

I'm in the same boat, it's the same with managers, style of play basically everything we do, we need to do different, it comes across as stuck up to me when we have no reason to be this way, just take the best players from the smaller clubs, and add a bit of quality in forward areas, defenders is my biggest bug bear. There's plenty defenders in this league that would do a job, all you want is solid, reliable defenders, killie have them, saints had them when they won the cup we didn't even show any interest, big Joe shaughnessy whilst maybe not being the most attractive of signings would have done a job for us, he's won Dundee plenty points this season with his goals alone from set pieces, he's won a few against us over the years aswell. All I want my defenders to do is the basics well, defend their box, be aggressive and pass to the better players.

CapitalGreen
07-01-2024, 11:53 AM
I'm in the same boat, it's the same with managers, style of play basically everything we do, we need to do different, it comes across as stuck up to me when we have no reason to be this way, just take the best players from the smaller clubs, defenders is my biggest bug bear. There's plenty defenders in this league that would do a job, all you want is solid, reliable defenders, killie have them, saints had them when they won the cup we didn't even show any interest, big Joe shaughnessy whilst maybe not being the most attractive of signings would have done a job for us, he's won Dundee plenty points this season with his goals alone from set pieces, he's won a few against us over the years aswell. All I want my defenders to do is the basics well, defend their box, be aggressive and pass to the better players.

We literally spent all that summer trying to sign a centre back from the St Johnstone team that had just beaten us in the cup final.

In both of season 2020/21 and 2021/22 we had the best defensive record outside the old firm. During the early part of 2022/23 only Celtic conceded less goals than us and when Fish and Hanlon were paired together, only 1 other non-Old Firm team had a better defensive record.

JammyDoidger
07-01-2024, 12:03 PM
We literally spent all that summer trying to sign a centre back from the St Johnstone team that had just beaten us in the cup final.

In both of season 2020/21 and 2021/22 we had the best defensive record outside the old firm. During the early part of 2022/23 only Celtic conceded less goals than us and when Fish and Hanlon were paired together, only 1 other non-Old Firm team had a better defensive record.

Actually you're right, we didn't concede from a cross ball that year if memory serves me right? Still I though Rooney, McCart, Kerr were obvious options, and we failed to get either of them..I think we tried for McCart but obviously not hard enough.

hibees 7062
07-01-2024, 12:14 PM
You'd think Van Veen would be an obvious choice, would move back to Scotland, partner just had a baby, proven he can do it in this league, experience, character, quality, no sure why we've not tried? And the fact he's Dutch should help Vente. No brainer, but we never seem to go for the obvious options.

According to him , Sevco want him

greenlex
07-01-2024, 12:17 PM
I'm in the same boat, it's the same with managers, style of play basically everything we do, we need to do different, it comes across as stuck up to me when we have no reason to be this way, just take the best players from the smaller clubs, and add a bit of quality in forward areas, defenders is my biggest bug bear. There's plenty defenders in this league that would do a job, all you want is solid, reliable defenders, killie have them, saints had them when they won the cup we didn't even show any interest, big Joe shaughnessy whilst maybe not being the most attractive of signings would have done a job for us, he's won Dundee plenty points this season with his goals alone from set pieces, he's won a few against us over the years aswell. All I want my defenders to do is the basics well, defend their box, be aggressive and pass to the better players.
We don’t just want solid reliable defenders. We want solid reliable defenders that can play it out from the back quickly and effectively.

Greencore
07-01-2024, 12:18 PM
Anyone remember the Clyde keeper we signed years ago for obvious cover and got dogs abuse 😂

Gmack7
07-01-2024, 12:25 PM
Anyone remember the Clyde keeper we signed years ago for obvious cover and got dogs abuse 😂

Mitchell? Seemed very strange at the time

Brightside
07-01-2024, 12:33 PM
How long have we been saying that we need proven players and not youth team players from down south. I know you have made this very point a few times over the last few seasons and nothing seems to change.

We're going nowhere with signings like this, recruitment at this club still leaves so much to be desired.

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What was Will Fish? Don't be surprised if this is the new CB partnership

Tyler Durden
07-01-2024, 12:38 PM
What was Will Fish? Don't be surprised if this is the new CB partnership

Will Fish is not some amazing success story. He's played for 12 months and cost us bad goals on a fairly regular basis.

He's not been helped by the fact that he's mainly playing next to another rookie. The failure to sign an experienced CB in the summer has cost us massively.

Paul1642
07-01-2024, 12:45 PM
Why would you leave Italian football, lifestyle, food and women for the uglies ?

Something I think fans often overlook when discussing transfers is location. Everyone is different and I know nothing about Josh’s mindset but I sure as hell would choose an Italian (or other European) club over a UK club ten times out of ten if the money and club status was remotely comparable.

A factor that must to some degree play into the hands of Hibs vs other Scottish clubs and north of England clubs when it comes to non Scottish players is the fact that Edinburgh is pretty desirable.

Paul1642
07-01-2024, 12:46 PM
Will Fish is not some amazing success story. He's played for 12 months and cost us bad goals on a fairly regular basis.

He's not been helped by the fact that he's mainly playing next to another rookie. The failure to sign an experienced CB in the summer has cost us massively.

He’s not been outstanding but I would still be going above and beyond to sign him permanently if such a deal is possible.

big gogs
07-01-2024, 12:48 PM
Why would you leave Italian football, lifestyle, food and women for the uglies ?
More money ,closer to home.

andrew70
07-01-2024, 12:48 PM
Will Fish is not some amazing success story. He's played for 12 months and cost us bad goals on a fairly regular basis.

He's not been helped by the fact that he's mainly playing next to another rookie. The failure to sign an experienced CB in the summer has cost us massively.

We have an experienced CB and we still concede “bad goals”.

Whilst we’d all love some experience that isn’t our business model and neither it should be. Everyone wants progress but to do so we need more revenue. We are probably maximising hospitality for now, the fans won’t put anymore money in so we need to make money via transfers and we can only do that with young, promising players. It won’t always work but it’s required.

B.H.F.C
07-01-2024, 12:54 PM
We have an experienced CB and we still concede “bad goals”.

Whilst we’d all love some experience that isn’t our business model and neither it should be. Everyone wants progress but to do so we need more revenue. We are probably maximising hospitality for now, the fans won’t put anymore money in so we need to make money via transfers and we can only do that with young, promising players. It won’t always work but it’s required.

We have a 38 year old goalie and a 37 year old centre forward so will sign experienced players where we think they can improve the team.

We’re crying out for a centre half that is ready to go right in to the team, organise those around them and help us stop conceding as many goals.

Not every player needs to be bought with a view to being sold. Get someone in for the remainder of the season that helps you finish a couple of places up the league and you’re generating extra revenue through performance to reinvest in the team in the summer.

JammyDoidger
07-01-2024, 12:59 PM
We don’t just want solid reliable defenders. We want solid reliable defenders that can play it out from the back quickly and effectively.

Think we need to remember what market we are shopping in though. Pay peanuts, get monkeys and that..

andrew70
07-01-2024, 12:59 PM
We have a 38 year old goalie and a 37 year old centre forward so will sign experienced players where we think they can improve the team.

We’re crying out for a centre half that is ready to go right in to the team, organise those around them and help us stop conceding as many goals.

Not every player needs to be bought with a view to being sold. Get someone in for the remainder of the season that helps you finish a couple of places up the league and you’re generating extra revenue through performance to reinvest in the team in the summer.

Where are you getting a good, experienced centre half in on loan from?

Especially in January. Open to ideas because it’s highly unlikely.

Don’t write off players because of their age. Older players make mistakes too.

B.H.F.C
07-01-2024, 01:01 PM
Where are you getting a good, experienced centre half in on loan from?

Especially in January. Open to ideas because it’s highly unlikely.

Don’t write off players because of their age. Older players make mistakes too.

I don’t know but then I’m not paid to find them. I’d like to think someone like Brian McDermott might have some kind of idea though.

andrew70
07-01-2024, 01:07 PM
I don’t know but then I’m not paid to find them. I’d like to think someone like Brian McDermott might have some kind of idea though.

It looks like he’s found a player for that position but he’s already deemed not good enough. The real ‘hibs way’

B.H.F.C
07-01-2024, 01:09 PM
It looks like he’s found a player for that position but he’s already deemed not good enough. The real ‘hibs way’

Do you not think it’s fair that people might express reservations about getting someone in for a problem position that has no first team experience.

That’s not quite the same as saying someone isn’t good enough.

andrew70
07-01-2024, 01:13 PM
Do you not think it’s fair that people might express reservations about getting someone in for a problem position that has no first team experience.

That’s not quite the same as saying someone isn’t good enough.

I say let McDermott do his job. He and Ian Gordon have done well since his arrival.

Stuart93
07-01-2024, 01:33 PM
I say let McDermott do his job. He and Ian Gordon have done well since his arrival.

I’d say done well is a slight exaggeration.

When you see 5 youth team players on the bench I’m so sure that could be described as doing well.

Blaster
07-01-2024, 01:38 PM
I’d say done well is a slight exaggeration.

When you see 5 youth team players on the bench I’m so sure that could be described as doing well.

Surely must understand the circumstances though. 4 away on international duty and the additional injury to Campbell. Some folk screaming for youth to get a chance, others say too many in the squad. Club are far from perfect but the amount of constant digs at the moment is the worst I think I’ve seen

andrew70
07-01-2024, 01:39 PM
I’d say done well is a slight exaggeration.

When you see 5 youth team players on the bench I’m so sure that could be described as doing well.

He can’t help injuries and international call ups. We can’t just stockpile players. The players he’s brought in have been good. Paid fees for players we would never have got in, even just few years back.

He’ll bring in the right players this month too.

I’d also much rather see youth get a chance than said stockpiling of players.

Edit: on the youths I’d like to know why Jacob Blaney hasn’t had an opportunity?

Paul1642
07-01-2024, 01:41 PM
Surely must understand the circumstances though. 4 away on international duty and the additional injury to Campbell. Some folk screaming for youth to get a chance, others say too many in the squad. Club are far from perfect but the amount of constant digs at the moment is the worst I think I’ve seen

Also injuries to ALF, JDH, Cadden and McKirdy. We can’t afford to just sign replacements for players who are injured for a few months.

Blaster
07-01-2024, 01:45 PM
Also injuries to ALF, JDH, Cadden and McKirdy. We can’t afford to just sign replacements for players who are injured for a few months.

Agree mate, didn’t want to include them all as every team will always have injuries. But Campbell was most recent and we still expected to have the 4 international ones for the Motherwell game.

We signed good players in the summer. Much better recruitment than previously. A couple need to do better like Levitt and Vente but they are good players

Stuart93
07-01-2024, 01:48 PM
Surely must understand the circumstances though. 4 away on international duty and the additional injury to Campbell. Some folk screaming for youth to get a chance, others say too many in the squad. Club are far from perfect but the amount of constant digs at the moment is the worst I think I’ve seen

That’s true but our squad was still looking very light after the summer window and it was referred to a lot on here when it shut

Really? It’s been worse than this on here. We got relegated whilst the net was a thing

bingo70
07-01-2024, 01:53 PM
Surely must understand the circumstances though. 4 away on international duty and the additional injury to Campbell. Some folk screaming for youth to get a chance, others say too many in the squad. Club are far from perfect but the amount of constant digs at the moment is the worst I think I’ve seen

In generally pretty positive about Hibs (sometimes) but I think saying McDermott did well in the summer is pushing it a little. Think of our summer signings that McDermott would have been responsible for finding the only one that looks alright is Obita. ALF done alright at times but seeing a 37 year old striker injured a lot isn’t a huge surprise really.

Hibbyradge
07-01-2024, 01:55 PM
In generally pretty positive about Hibs (sometimes) but I think saying McDermott did well in the summer is pushing it a little. Think of our summer signings that McDermott would have been responsible for finding the only one that looks alright is Obita. ALF done alright at times but seeing a 37 year old striker injured a lot isn’t a huge surprise really.

Don't you think Vente is a player?

Blaster
07-01-2024, 01:59 PM
That’s true but our squad was still looking very light after the summer window and it was referred to a lot on here when it shut

Really? It’s been worse than this on here. We got relegated whilst the net was a thing

Unfortunately I think not being able to getting rid of certain players who aren’t good enough stopped us bringing a couple in along with our previous manager injuring JDH in training left us light.

All the threads at the minute seem to be negative. Even the one wishing LD all the best with her (possible) illness has descended into a bit of a debate. Someone on the Mckirdy thread, aimed at wishing him well after his medical issue, is telling him to bolt

Just a couple of examples. Maybe I just need to toughen up lol 😂

bingo70
07-01-2024, 02:27 PM
Don't you think Vente is a player?

I think for the money spent I was hoping for more. He doesn’t seem to be a great fit for the way we’re wanting him to play. Suspect he’s a really good number 9 but a pretty average number 10.

Tyler Durden
07-01-2024, 02:33 PM
We have an experienced CB and we still concede “bad goals”.

Whilst we’d all love some experience that isn’t our business model and neither it should be. Everyone wants progress but to do so we need more revenue. We are probably maximising hospitality for now, the fans won’t put anymore money in so we need to make money via transfers and we can only do that with young, promising players. It won’t always work but it’s required.

Of course we need to develop and sell players. But they’ll only develop if they have some experience around them, something Ian Gordon himself has referenced.

We needed a centre half before Porteous left. We signed Harbottle to replace him. The situation is a joke tbh.

Someone like Kent at Hearts is all that was required. League One or Scottish Premier League experience. Money is not the issue. Look at the money we have wasted on project players in the last 2 years

CapitalGreen
07-01-2024, 02:35 PM
Actually you're right, we didn't concede from a cross ball that year if memory serves me right? Still I though Rooney, McCart, Kerr were obvious options, and we failed to get either of them..I think we tried for McCart but obviously not hard enough.

The only one of those 3 who I would have liked us to sign was Kerr but he joined an English Championship team on a contract that was significantly more than we could afford so getting him wasn’t realistic at that time.

We did try hard for McCart, we had multiple bids rejected but they didn’t want to sell having just lost Kerr and with European qualifiers to play. He wouldn’t have been an improvement on what we had.

Shaun Rooney was decent going forward but was never a good defender, he’s currently at the worst team in EFL 1 who are on their 3rd manager of the season.

Hibbyradge
07-01-2024, 02:38 PM
I think for the money spent I was hoping for more. He doesn’t seem to be a great fit for the way we’re wanting him to play. Suspect he’s a really good number 9 but a pretty average number 10.

That's not Brian McDermott's fault.

He's being asked to play that way because we don't have a proper number 10. When we get that, or when ALF returns, I think we'll see the real Vente.

The Modfather
07-01-2024, 02:47 PM
That's not Brian McDermott's fault.

He's being asked to play that way because we don't have a proper number 10. When we get that, or when ALF returns, I think we'll see the real Vente.

I’m not sure it was a the best way to spend £700k if we’re relying on a 37 year old striker to stay fit in order to to get the best out of him otherwise he is likely to struggle.

I think he’s a good player but for £700k we should have probably been looking at someone more athletic and suited to playing on their own. Someone like Big Mike.

andrew70
07-01-2024, 02:53 PM
I’m not sure it was a the best way to spend £700k if we’re relying on a 37 year old striker to stay fit in order to to get the best out of him otherwise Vente is likely to struggle.

I think he’s a good player but for £700k we should have probably been looking at someone more athletic and suited to playing on their own. Someone like Big Mike.

More athletic, he gets round the pitch better than most he’s always chasing down which is detriment to his striking abilities.

He doesn’t need to play on his own, we play two up front problem being after ALF he’s the most intelligent player on the pitch. There’s a reason he’s played deeper but to call him out is harsh. He’s a top player and I am sure we’ll be looking at the position he’s currently playing as needing an upgrade.

He’ll bag the goals soon but for now he’s doing a very important job.

The Modfather
07-01-2024, 03:01 PM
More athletic, he gets round the pitch better than most he’s always chasing down which is detriment to his striking abilities.

He doesn’t need to play on his own, we play two up front problem being after ALF he’s the most intelligent player on the pitch. There’s a reason he’s played deeper but to call him out is harsh. He’s a top player and I am sure we’ll be looking at the position he’s currently playing as needing an upgrade.

He’ll bag the goals soon but for now he’s doing a very important job.

I wasn’t meaning more athletic as a dig at Vente. Meant more athletic in terms of the type of striker who is big and strong and can be a focal point as well as athletic and not just a slow battering ram. Someone in the Big Mike mould.

I’m a big fan of Vente but he’s not at his best playing on his own or creating his own chances IMO. We signed him hoping either Levit was the player to play off him and feed him, despite him not playing that way last season and neither Johnson or Montgomery playing him that way so far. Or a 37 year old striker staying fit. I’m just questioning spending £700k on a striker and still needing to wait until January or the summer to sign a player that will compliment him.

B.H.F.C
07-01-2024, 03:01 PM
Of course we need to develop and sell players. But they’ll only develop if they have some experience around them, something Ian Gordon himself has referenced.

We needed a centre half before Porteous left. We signed Harbottle to replace him. The situation is a joke tbh.

Someone like Kent at Hearts is all that was required. League One or Scottish Premier League experience. Money is not the issue. Look at the money we have wasted on project players in the last 2 years

Totally agree. I find the neglect shown to such an important position baffling. Especially when those playing in it have been underperforming.

Stuart93
07-01-2024, 03:02 PM
Unfortunately I think not being able to getting rid of certain players who aren’t good enough stopped us bringing a couple in along with our previous manager injuring JDH in training left us light.

All the threads at the minute seem to be negative. Even the one wishing LD all the best with her (possible) illness has descended into a bit of a debate. Someone on the Mckirdy thread, aimed at wishing him well after his medical issue, is telling him to bolt

Just a couple of examples. Maybe I just need to toughen up lol 😂

Aye I think you’re right. Think moving a few on in the summer whos contracts are up will help us a lot.

Admittedly I’ve not looked at many threads apart from the transfer and the investment threads but I suppose it’s the usual when hibs are doing when there’s more positivity when hibs are doing not so good there’s more negativity.

Don’t we all 😂

andrew70
07-01-2024, 03:03 PM
I wasn’t meaning more athletic as a dig at Vente. Meant more athletic in terms of the type of striker who is big and strong and can be a focal point as well as athletic and not just a slow battering ram. Someone in the Big Mike mould.

I’m a big fan of Vente but he’s not at his best playing on his own or creating his own chances IMO. We signed him hoping either Levit was the player to play off him and feed him, despite him not playing that way and neither Johnson or Montgomery are laying him that way. Or a 37 year old striker staying fit. I’m just questioning spending £700k on a striker and still needing to wait until January or the summer to sign a player that will compliment him.

It’s maybe a case of paying another big fee for a player to compliment him. That probably couldn’t be done in the same window, most likely not in this window either. A loan may plug the gap.

I’d like to see Rudi get a shot off the striker, very clever player. Get Vente back into the nine role.

bingo70
07-01-2024, 03:06 PM
That's not Brian McDermott's fault.

He's being asked to play that way because we don't have a proper number 10. When we get that, or when ALF returns, I think we'll see the real Vente.

I hope so, at this stage though, I’d have hoped for more from someone we’ve paid so much money for.

B.H.F.C
07-01-2024, 03:12 PM
I hope so, at this stage though, I’d have hoped for more from someone we’ve paid so much money for.

Pretty much what I’ve argued on various threads. I don’t think he’s a bad player at all, he’s very obviously not. And I do think he needs used slightly differently but even the way he is being used, I still think he could/should be offering more at times. Think it’s been obvious for a while that we need another player in that position to help him, I really hope we get one.

Daydreamer
07-01-2024, 03:14 PM
That's not Brian McDermott's fault.

He's being asked to play that way because we don't have a proper number 10. When we get that, or when ALF returns, I think we'll see the real Vente.


I have been under the impression that Levitt was signed as a Number 10 like many other fans. Surely he played there with Dundee United and looked a very dangerous player there and scored a few good goals.

B.H.F.C
07-01-2024, 03:16 PM
I have been under the impression that Levitt was signed as a Number 10 like many other fans. Surely he played there with Dundee United and looked a very dangerous player there and scored a few good goals.

This was an assumption a lot of people made but I don’t think he ever played that far up the park. He didn’t play in a midfield two though so probably had a bit more freedom.

Stuart93
07-01-2024, 03:22 PM
However I feel the whole it’s hard to do business in January is getting tiresome.

Our rivals, in a better position, are spending money on a player in our league who’s performing well for their team whilst we’re loaning a Leeds u20 player who’s never had first team experience.

Super early in the window but I’m slightly worried we’ve still not learnt a thing and following the same transfer policy that’s failed us for a while now.

I’d be very happy for hibs to get it right up me for the rest of the transfer window however, cause we badly need a bit of quality in the door as opposed to more speculative gambles.

Cocaine&Caviar
07-01-2024, 03:32 PM
I have been under the impression that Levitt was signed as a Number 10 like many other fans. Surely he played there with Dundee United and looked a very dangerous player there and scored a few good goals.

No, he didnt.

HoboHarry
07-01-2024, 03:36 PM
However I feel the whole it’s hard to do business in January is getting tiresome.

Our rivals, in a better position, are spending money on a player in our league who’s performing well for their team whilst we’re loaning a Leeds u20 player who’s never had first team experience.

Super early in the window but I’m slightly worried we’ve still not learnt a thing and following the same transfer policy that’s failed us for a while now.

I’d be very happy for hibs to get it right up me for the rest of the transfer window however, cause we badly need a bit of quality in the door as opposed to more speculative gambles.
Every manager everywhere will tell you it's a difficult window to do business in.

Since452
07-01-2024, 03:36 PM
I have been under the impression that Levitt was signed as a Number 10 like many other fans. Surely he played there with Dundee United and looked a very dangerous player there and scored a few good goals.

He was played there to start with in his first season on loan. When he returned permanently they played him deeper. Similar to where we play him now. The Dundee United fans weren't happy about it at the time.

tonyrougier123
07-01-2024, 03:38 PM
“Primed” to sign a 20yr old CB. 🙄 let’s get the bunting oot!
Canny tell you how frustrating it is we can’t/wont sign experienced seasoned recruits to bolster the defence. How many seasons now? The experience we do have in defence just doesn’t cut it either.
A football director a full coaching team and it seems none of them can figure out we need a CB a left back and a competent goalie to either take the gloves or back Marshall up.

bingo70
07-01-2024, 03:42 PM
However I feel the whole it’s hard to do business in January is getting tiresome.

Our rivals, in a better position, are spending money on a player in our league who’s performing well for their team whilst we’re loaning a Leeds u20 player who’s never had first team experience.

Super early in the window but I’m slightly worried we’ve still not learnt a thing and following the same transfer policy that’s failed us for a while now.

I’d be very happy for hibs to get it right up me for the rest of the transfer window however, cause we badly need a bit of quality in the door as opposed to more speculative gambles.

I get the concern about signing untested players but I like it, I think there’s gems to be found down there, the guy Beck who was at Dundee is the perfect example. That market is where I was expecting McDermott to really add value to our recruitment through his contacts and eye for a player. Wee bit disappointed his best signings so far have been two players who used to play for him and an expensive player who should probably be offering more for the money spent on him (imo).

I’m hopeful this guy from Leeds will be good, we should certainly have good contacts down there.

Smartie
07-01-2024, 03:57 PM
However I feel the whole it’s hard to do business in January is getting tiresome.

Our rivals, in a better position, are spending money on a player in our league who’s performing well for their team whilst we’re loaning a Leeds u20 player who’s never had first team experience.

Super early in the window but I’m slightly worried we’ve still not learnt a thing and following the same transfer policy that’s failed us for a while now.

I’d be very happy for hibs to get it right up me for the rest of the transfer window however, cause we badly need a bit of quality in the door as opposed to more speculative gambles.

The excuses are wearing a bit thin for me too.

By the time we've written off January and about 80% of the summer window as being too early whilst we "wait for quality to become available" I sometimes wonder how we've ever managed to sign a decent player in our history.

rileygrieve1
07-01-2024, 03:58 PM
However I feel the whole it’s hard to do business in January is getting tiresome.

Our rivals, in a better position, are spending money on a player in our league who’s performing well for their team whilst we’re loaning a Leeds u20 player who’s never had first team experience.

Super early in the window but I’m slightly worried we’ve still not learnt a thing and following the same transfer policy that’s failed us for a while now.

I’d be very happy for hibs to get it right up me for the rest of the transfer window however, cause we badly need a bit of quality in the door as opposed to more speculative gambles.

Dhanda isn’t the world’s best player, he’s decent and would be a bench player for us. We don’t have a game until the 24th, no point rushing a signing in for the sake of it rather we took our time and got the right players in

JohnM1875
07-01-2024, 04:02 PM
Dhanda isn’t the world’s best player, he’s decent and would be a bench player for us. We don’t have a game until the 24th, no point rushing a signing in for the sake of it rather we took our time and got the right players in

An early signing doesn't mean it's been rushed. We don't start looking for players on January 1st.

Stuart93
07-01-2024, 04:05 PM
Dhanda isn’t the world’s best player, he’s decent and would be a bench player for us. We don’t have a game until the 24th, no point rushing a signing in for the sake of it rather we took our time and got the right players in

No-one said he is. I reckon he’d be a starter for us tbh.

That argument is also getting tiresome. The amount of time you take to make a signing has no baring on their quality imo. I’m not saying rush into making signings I’m just hoping more assured than untried youngsters from down south despite some may turn out to be decent. However it’s not a market that’s been too successful for us.

Hibernian Verse
07-01-2024, 04:06 PM
No-one said he is. I reckon he’d be a starter for us tbh.

That argument is also getting tiresome. The amount of time you take to make a signing has no baring on their quality imo. I’m not saying rush into making signings I’m just hoping more assured than untried youngsters from down south despite some may turn out to be decent. However it’s not a market that’s been too successful for us.

Exactly, you could find out that a quality player is available on the 30th of Jan and it's done within 24 hours.

bingo70
07-01-2024, 04:09 PM
An early signing doesn't mean it's been rushed. We don't start looking for players on January 1st.

That’s why I’m a bit frustrated we are only possibly signing this Leeds guy now, if he can play right back, he should have been in on time to play against Motherwell. I know in some cases it won’t be that easy, I find it hard to believe Leeds would be hard to deal with about a 20 year old who isn’t involved in their first team though.

Relying on a 16 year old right back went a long way to costing us the points in that game imo.

Gordy M
07-01-2024, 04:11 PM
The excuses are wearing a bit thin for me too.

By the time we've written off January and about 80% of the summer window as being too early whilst we "wait for quality to become available" I sometimes wonder how we've ever managed to sign a decent player in our history.
We spend as much as anyone outside the old firm in transfer fees but we intentionally dont sign folk in January and just use the excuse there are no quality signings? Is that what you are saying? Or is there actually some truth to the fact that its more difficult?

Gordy M
07-01-2024, 04:13 PM
No-one said he is. I reckon he’d be a starter for us tbh.

That argument is also getting tiresome. The amount of time you take to make a signing has no baring on their quality imo. I’m not saying rush into making signings I’m just hoping more assured than untried youngsters from down south despite some may turn out to be decent. However it’s not a market that’s been too successful for us.
We signed most our players early in summer last year and folk were going absolutely crazy that we didnt sign anyone on deadline day???

CapitalGreen
07-01-2024, 04:13 PM
He was played there to start with in his first season on loan. When he returned permanently they played him deeper. Similar to where we play him now. The Dundee United fans weren't happy about it at the time.

No he wasn’t. His first season on loan he played at the base of the midfield alongside Jeandro Fuchs.

brog
07-01-2024, 04:16 PM
It’s maybe a case of paying another big fee for a player to compliment him. That probably couldn’t be done in the same window, most likely not in this window either. A loan may plug the gap.

I’d like to see Rudi get a shot off the striker, very clever player. Get Vente back into the nine role.

I think we may see that on the 20th.

Smartie
07-01-2024, 04:17 PM
That’s why I’m a bit frustrated we are only possibly signing this Leeds guy now, if he can play right back, he should have been in on time to play against Motherwell. I know in some cases it won’t be that easy, I find it hard to believe Leeds would be hard to deal with about a 20 year old who isn’t involved in their first team though.

Relying on a 16 year old right back went a long way to costing us the points in that game imo.

This is Hibs all over, whether it's the start of the season or January.

Why is it more attractive for Leeds to let a 20 year old who is nowhere near their first team go at the end of January rather than the start?

Remember when we were crying out for a Martin Boyle and he was signed and ready to go on January 1st?

Unseen work
07-01-2024, 04:21 PM
I’ve got faith McDerrmot and Monty will get good players in.

Think we’ll get the main ones in for Dubai.

B.H.F.C
07-01-2024, 04:23 PM
I’ve got faith McDerrmot and Monty will get good players in.

Think we’ll get the main ones in for Dubai.

No got long, we’re away on Tuesday.

Smartie
07-01-2024, 04:24 PM
We spend as much as anyone outside the old firm in transfer fees but we intentionally dont sign folk in January and just use the excuse there are no quality signings? Is that what you are saying? Or is there actually some truth to the fact that its more difficult?

It's different for sure but I don't think it's more difficult.

If you don't get your business done in the summers meaning you've got half a team away on International duty, a 16 year old in the first team costing you points and a manager whose system doesn't seem to suit your best players meaning you're needing at least 4 starters to get a recognisably adequate team for your ambitions then I guess it's difficult. But that's difficult mainly because you're asking a lot.

Your team should normally be more or less there, a few kids padding out the squad and maybe 2 or 3 fixes maximum needed (even if they're loans then that is fine, should a permanent signing become available then that's a bonus).

Part of my gripe with the "January being difficult" business being rubbish is that I genuinely think we've got a good track record of doing good transfer business in January. It feels like we're being softened up for it being pish again when that needn't be the case. Just last season - Jeggo and Egan-Riley, 2 good signings who filled gaps that needed filled.

Bridge hibs
07-01-2024, 04:26 PM
This is Hibs all over, whether it's the start of the season or January.

Why is it more attractive for Leeds to let a 20 year old who is nowhere near their first team go at the end of January rather than the start?

Remember when we were crying out for a Martin Boyle and he was signed and ready to go on January 1st?We dont know his situation at Leeds though, how do you know we didnt enquire about Moore earlier but maybe there were offers from other clubs and Leeds took time to look at the best options before agreeing to loan the lad out

cabbageandribs1875
07-01-2024, 04:29 PM
This is Hibs all over, whether it's the start of the season or January.

Why is it more attractive for Leeds to let a 20 year old who is nowhere near their first team go at the end of January rather than the start?

Remember when we were crying out for a Martin Boyle and he was signed and ready to go on January 1st?


he was in the frame for a possible start today :)


We could see Charlie Cresswell and Kris Moore back together at the heart of the defence, but with a loan agreement (to Hibs) in the midst, Moore may have to make do with a place on the bench, in favour of Liam Cooper. Leo Hjelde will challenge Junior Firpo for the right back role whilst fit again Djed Spence will probably start on the left, with Ayling making an emotional cameo appearance before his proposed move to Boro is finalised early next week.


as it turned out neither played :( i think that article was last week though as Spence has already been sent back to Spurs, and immediately put up for sale by them

Hibbyradge
07-01-2024, 04:36 PM
he was in the frame for a possible start today :)


We could see Charlie Cresswell and Kris Moore back together at the heart of the defence, but with a loan agreement (to Hibs) in the midst, Moore may have to make do with a place on the bench, in favour of Liam Cooper. Leo Hjelde will challenge Junior Firpo for the right back role whilst fit again Djed Spence will probably start on the left, with Ayling making an emotional cameo appearance before his proposed move to Boro is finalised early next week.


as it turned out neither played :( i think that article was last week though as Spence has already been sent back to Spurs, and immediately put up for sale by them

Moore wasn't on the bench.

Smartie
07-01-2024, 04:37 PM
he was in the frame for a possible start today :)


We could see Charlie Cresswell and Kris Moore back together at the heart of the defence, but with a loan agreement (to Hibs) in the midst, Moore may have to make do with a place on the bench, in favour of Liam Cooper. Leo Hjelde will challenge Junior Firpo for the right back role whilst fit again Djed Spence will probably start on the left, with Ayling making an emotional cameo appearance before his proposed move to Boro is finalised early next week.


as it turned out neither played :( i think that article was last week though as Spence has already been sent back to Spurs, and immediately put up for sale by them

Then I stand corrected.

Is it not a bit mad that he's competing for a place in a team near the top of the Championship with a Scotland internationalist but being punted out to us on loan shortly?

cabbageandribs1875
07-01-2024, 04:37 PM
Moore wasn't on the bench.


he was maybe on a train






to Edinburgh Waverley

Benny Brazil
07-01-2024, 04:51 PM
Would’ve liked to have seen us go for Dhanda. Seems like he’s going to hearts

Dhanda is a poor man's Stevie Mallan

Just_Jimmy
07-01-2024, 04:53 PM
I say let McDermott do his job. He and Ian Gordon have done well since his arrival.Have they?

What supports that claim?

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Just_Jimmy
07-01-2024, 04:57 PM
That's not Brian McDermott's fault.

He's being asked to play that way because we don't have a proper number 10. When we get that, or when ALF returns, I think we'll see the real Vente.I think he's a good player. I think when we changed manager one of the questions should have been "how are you going to get the best from Vente?".

We're clearly not doing that and to suggest we need to sign another player or keep a 37 year old fit, to do so, isn't good enough.

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Blaster
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM
Hope we don’t try and sign any of those 2 Liverpool youngsters who came on there. Too inexperienced

EGL2000
07-01-2024, 05:29 PM
Hope we don’t try and sign any of those 2 Liverpool youngsters who came on there. Too inexperienced


Bradley has played 41 senior games. I think most of us want youngsters who at least have some experience of senior football. Such a different level to youth football.

Tyler Durden
07-01-2024, 05:32 PM
Hope we don’t try and sign any of those 2 Liverpool youngsters who came on there. Too inexperienced

Hilarious

bingo70
07-01-2024, 05:36 PM
Bradley has played 41 senior games. I think most of us want youngsters who at least have some experience of senior football. Such a different level to youth football.

I think youth football isn’t quite the same as under 23 football, I know what you mean though, I’m maybe just being pedantic.

Montgomery has very publicly said he wants first team ready signings, I wonder if there could be a hint of a disagreement between him and the club if he gets 20 year old untested players when he’s asked for players ready to go.

BT58
07-01-2024, 05:37 PM
Bradley, who came on today, was player of the year at Bolton last season.
B

southern hibby
07-01-2024, 05:38 PM
Not sure why ( just a hunch ) but I think Hibs won’t be spending any money this window on players.

The best I think we will get is loans and maybe a free after the window closes.

There’s going to be a lot of unhappy chap pies after the window closes me thinks.

Hope I’m wrong,


GGTTH

NC1875
07-01-2024, 05:58 PM
Dhanda isn’t the world’s best player, he’s decent and would be a bench player for us. We don’t have a game until the 24th, no point rushing a signing in for the sake of it rather we took our time and got the right players in

That old favourite. Rather we took our time 😂

We’ve been taking our time singing a decent squad for about the last 20 years.

Hibiza
07-01-2024, 06:01 PM
This window will be the same as every others , a few unfounded rumours and a token signing to keep us happy .

easty
07-01-2024, 06:05 PM
This window will be the same as every others , a few unfounded rumours and a token signing to keep us happy .

If we get a token signing that makes me happy…then I’ll be happy. That’s a win, surely?

Rumble de Thump
07-01-2024, 06:07 PM
If we're going to make a token signing I hope we go for Aragorn, although I know a lot of our fans aren't keen on rangers.

JohnM1875
07-01-2024, 06:11 PM
If we're going to make a token signing I hope we go for Aragorn, although I know a lot of our fans aren't keen on rangers.

😂 not bad that.

Heisenberg
07-01-2024, 06:21 PM
This window will be the same as every others , a few unfounded rumours and a token signing to keep us happy .

We spent nearly £2m in the summer 😂

greenlex
07-01-2024, 06:33 PM
If we're going to make a token signing I hope we go for Aragorn, although I know a lot of our fans aren't keen on rangers.
:thumbsup:

AlbertK86
07-01-2024, 06:51 PM
“Primed” to sign a 20yr old CB. [emoji849] let’s get the bunting oot!
Canny tell you how frustrating it is we can’t/wont sign experienced seasoned recruits to bolster the defence. How many seasons now? The experience we do have in defence just doesn’t cut it either.
A football director a full coaching team and it seems none of them can figure out we need a CB a left back and a competent goalie to either take the gloves or back Marshall up.

Fish and Egan Riley were 19/20 year olds who weren’t experienced players last season and were two of our strongest players in the second half of last season


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AlbertK86
07-01-2024, 06:56 PM
I think youth football isn’t quite the same as under 23 football, I know what you mean though, I’m maybe just being pedantic.

Montgomery has very publicly said he wants first team ready signings, I wonder if there could be a hint of a disagreement between him and the club if he gets 20 year old untested players when he’s asked for players ready to go.

Maybe Monty considers him first team ready at this level


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jakeshibs
07-01-2024, 07:00 PM
We spent nearly £2m in the summer 😂


People seem to forget this

bingo70
07-01-2024, 07:16 PM
Maybe Monty considers him first team ready at this level


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Yeah maybe.

FWIW I’m a glass half full kind of person with this kind of signing, I’d rather look at the positives and think he could be brilliant. I’m still not convinced that this kind of signing is what Montgomery described when saying he wanted first team ready players though.

bingo70
07-01-2024, 07:21 PM
https://x.com/mhendry92/status/1744090065029001335?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Nothing imminent happening with Moore apparently.

JammyDoidger
07-01-2024, 07:29 PM
Don't you think Vente is a player?

I think he's limited tbh, good finisher, works hard, but he's nowhere near been good enough regardless how you want to spin it. We need someone that's all action, lets defenders know they are in a game, a real focal point, we just don't have it, Infact we don't have it right through the spine, we could be doing with that at centre half aswell, we aren't strong enough in box boxes. A Steven Fletcher, Garry O'Connor type is what we are missing. How I miss them, they bashed defenders about, ran the channels, won their headers, could finish. big Myk was a similar type just a shame he couldn't stay fit, We've had some great strikers over the years, Griffiths, Nisbet, even Cummings you always felt was going to score, I just don't get that feeling with Vente unfortunately. You can't just blame the formation or that he's being asked to drop deep, he's still a striker he should be doing more to get more shots away and create chances for himself, he's a striker he should be more selfish. Doesn't look like a guy that scored a bucket load last season.

hibsbollah
07-01-2024, 08:01 PM
If we're going to make a token signing I hope we go for Aragorn, although I know a lot of our fans aren't keen on rangers.

One does not simply do walking away from Mordor…

superfurryhibby
07-01-2024, 10:04 PM
We spent nearly £2m in the summer ��

We also sold Nisbet for 2 million in the summer and we’ve just sold Melkersen for over a million.

Ozyhibby
07-01-2024, 10:12 PM
People seem to forget this

Watching the team it’s hard to believe it.


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Unseen work
07-01-2024, 10:33 PM
Watching the team it’s hard to believe it.


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I think part of the issue is 2 million is nothing in football nowadays.

We think we spent alot on Vente, which for us is correct, but then someone signed Melkersen who we deemed not good enough for 1.2 million?!

Unless getting a bit of luck, the best players I think we’ll probably sign will be out of contract as if they were under contract the fee would likely be too much.


People mention names on here at times like Armstrong etc that will be well over what we’d pay, for a player that is good in the league but not brilliant

As you say 2 million spent and the squad still lacks so much quality and depth.

Squealing pig
07-01-2024, 10:38 PM
Need some loans in asap

jakeshibs
08-01-2024, 05:35 AM
Have they?

What supports that claim?

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I agree with the poste, they have,

They have made huge investments on and off the pitch, just look at our pitch compared to even celtics ? they have made money available to purchase players so yes they have

scoopyboy
08-01-2024, 06:26 AM
Need some loans in asap

Just any loans, even if they're crap.

Just_Jimmy
08-01-2024, 06:47 AM
I agree with the poste, they have,

They have made huge investments on and off the pitch, just look at our pitch compared to even celtics ? they have made money available to purchase players so yes they haveWe're still not good enough and we're still saying the same things from 3 or 4 (probably more) windows ago.

There's undoubtedly been money spent. I'm not debating that. Both on and off the pitch. More so, I'd say they have undoubtedly done well off the pitch. However, there's still major questions over recruitment and a huge sum of money that has been wasted on the playing side.

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brog
08-01-2024, 08:03 AM
https://x.com/mhendry92/status/1744090065029001335?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Nothing imminent happening with Moore apparently.

If Hearts were signing Moore there would be posters on here proclaiming him as the new Bobby Moore. Remember the wonder winger from Newcastle last season!

Jones28
08-01-2024, 08:49 AM
If we're going to make a token signing I hope we go for Aragorn, although I know a lot of our fans aren't keen on rangers.

Foley is going to want to get him in early, he will be keen to get his Legolacy off to a good start.

Onceinawhile
08-01-2024, 09:17 AM
If we're going to make a token signing I hope we go for Aragorn, although I know a lot of our fans aren't keen on rangers.

I'm not keen on us signing an 87 year old tbf.

Winston Ingram
08-01-2024, 09:23 AM
That's not Brian McDermott's fault.

He's being asked to play that way because we don't have a proper number 10. When we get that, or when ALF returns, I think we'll see the real Vente.

Vente isn't playing as a 10 though. He's spending less time in the 9 positions as he's being asked to rotate with the wide midfield players.

I'd love us to sign a 10, but I can't see us picking as he's determined to play 442 and shows no sign of changing that.

Paulie Walnuts
08-01-2024, 09:29 AM
Vente isn't playing as a 10 though. He's spending less time in the 9 positions as he's being asked to rotate with the wide midfield players.

I'd love us to sign a 10, but I can't see us picking as he's determined to play 442 and shows no sign of changing that.

Id thought the same regarding a 10. Seen a lot of folk mention us needing one this window but I’ve no idea where they’d play in a 4-4-2. Would be a waste imo.

bingo70
08-01-2024, 09:37 AM
Vente isn't playing as a 10 though. He's spending less time in the 9 positions as he's being asked to rotate with the wide midfield players.

I'd love us to sign a 10, but I can't see us picking as he's determined to play 442 and shows no sign of changing that.

I don’t understand, a number 10 plays in a 442. They’d play as one of the 2 up front but drops a bit deeper to link the midfield and forward.

I’m not sure what you think a number 10 is if you think it can’t play in a 442 but we must have different definitions of the position. Darren Jackson my go to number 10 guy.

Leitherhibs
08-01-2024, 09:39 AM
We've only played 2 out and out strikers a couple of times in our 442 of late, suggesting a 10 wouldn't fit into the 442 system is a very binary way of looking at things IMO.

Winston Ingram
08-01-2024, 10:07 AM
I don’t understand, a number 10 plays in a 442. They’d play as one of the 2 up front but drops a bit deeper to link the midfield and forward.

I’m not sure what you think a number 10 is if you think it can’t play in a 442 but we must have different definitions of the position. Darren Jackson my go to number 10 guy.

It doesn't. A number 10 isn't a striker. A 10 by definition is someone who operates between midfield and attack. A Van der Vaart, Odegaard, Maddison, Bergkamp, Zola, Ozil for example.

Darren Jackson was 30 years ago but ye'd see him chasing Keith Wright flick-ons as often as you would see him dropping deep.

Paulie Walnuts
08-01-2024, 10:19 AM
I don’t understand, a number 10 plays in a 442. They’d play as one of the 2 up front but drops a bit deeper to link the midfield and forward.

I’m not sure what you think a number 10 is if you think it can’t play in a 442 but we must have different definitions of the position. Darren Jackson my go to number 10 guy.

A number 10 nowadays, I’d have said plays in midfield, almost always in a 3, ahead of a 6 and an 8. I’d say a number 10 is a Scott Allan, a Russel Latapy, a Tom Rogic etc. None of them would have played in a 2 up top.

B.H.F.C
08-01-2024, 10:27 AM
A number 10 nowadays, I’d have said plays in midfield, almost always in a 3, ahead of a 6 and an 8. I’d say a number 10 is a Scott Allan, a Russel Latapy, a Tom Rogic etc. None of them would have played in a 2 up top.

I think folk are, generally, trying to make the same point just using different terminologies here. Recognising the shape Montgomery plays, and will continue to play, I think we all want Vente to be higher up the park more of the time. He needs the right partner to allow him to do that. In a front two there will always be one dropping off, like ALF was doing earlier in the season allowing Vente to stay higher. Think that’s all some folk are saying when they mention a 10 as opposed to a Scott Allan type 10.

Percy Vere
08-01-2024, 10:36 AM
Greg Docherty mentioned as a potential target this window from Hull City.
I liked his energy when we had him at ER. Anyone heard anything?

Hibbyradge
08-01-2024, 10:50 AM
I think folk are, generally, trying to make the same point just using different terminologies here. Recognising the shape Montgomery plays, and will continue to play, I think we all want Vente to be higher up the park more of the time. He needs the right partner to allow him to do that. In a front two there will always be one dropping off, like ALF was doing earlier in the season allowing Vente to stay higher. Think that’s all some folk are saying when they mention a 10 as opposed to a Scott Allan type 10.

Exactly.

TelaStella
08-01-2024, 10:53 AM
Ryan Jack out of contract end of season. Rangers supporting mate says there’s no chance of a renewal and they may even look to unload in January though I doubt he’d want to move away until the summer. Docherty in January, Jack in summer would be a massive upgrade on our midfield going into the next season imo.


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Trinity Hibee
08-01-2024, 10:54 AM
Ryan Jack out of contract end of season. Rangers supporting mate says there’s no chance of a renewal and they may even look to unload in January though I doubt he’d want to move away until the summer. Docherty in January, Jack in summer would be a massive upgrade on our midfield going into the next season imo.


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Don’t like him but he’d add some bite and balance into our midfield and is decent on the ball

andrew70
08-01-2024, 10:55 AM
Ryan Jack out of contract end of season. Rangers supporting mate says there’s no chance of a renewal and they may even look to unload in January though I doubt he’d want to move away until the summer. Docherty in January, Jack in summer would be a massive upgrade on our midfield going into the next season imo.


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He’s an excellent player but too injury prone to nail a lot of money too over his contract.

JohnM1875
08-01-2024, 10:56 AM
Ryan Jack out of contract end of season. Rangers supporting mate says there’s no chance of a renewal and they may even look to unload in January though I doubt he’d want to move away until the summer. Docherty in January, Jack in summer would be a massive upgrade on our midfield going into the next season imo.


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Didn’t realise Jack was 31, 32 in Feb! He’d walk into our midfield though. Good player.

Since452
08-01-2024, 10:56 AM
Ryan Jack out of contract end of season. Rangers supporting mate says there’s no chance of a renewal and they may even look to unload in January though I doubt he’d want to move away until the summer. Docherty in January, Jack in summer would be a massive upgrade on our midfield going into the next season imo.


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He'd be an upgrade for sure but always pictured him as a Hearts type. Can see him maybe being used as a Shankland bargaining tool.

Cheshire Hibee
08-01-2024, 11:01 AM
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but Hibs apparently looking to bring 20yo Kris Moore in on loan from Leeds until the end of the season as cover at RB/CB !!
Also Josh Doig linked with £5.25 mill transfer in January to Turin.


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andrew70
08-01-2024, 11:05 AM
Vente isn't playing as a 10 though. He's spending less time in the 9 positions as he's being asked to rotate with the wide midfield players.

I'd love us to sign a 10, but I can't see us picking as he's determined to play 442 and shows no sign of changing that.

That’s not strictly true. Ever since he marked McGregor out of the game at ER Vente has been playing a lot deeper, up the centre of the park. Chasing down opposition midfielders.

I said previously on the PM board that ever since we got hammered at Ibrox Montgomery has been spooked and he’s nullified Vente to try and prevent an overload in midfield.

It worked against Celtic but you don’t need to negate ourselves against any of the rest. Get him up front and he’ll score goals.

Said it elsewhere give Rudi a shot as ‘second striker’ and he’ll create for Vente whilst also doing the hard graft. A young lad with quality and determination.

Brightside
08-01-2024, 11:43 AM
I don’t understand, a number 10 plays in a 442. They’d play as one of the 2 up front but drops a bit deeper to link the midfield and forward.

I’m not sure what you think a number 10 is if you think it can’t play in a 442 but we must have different definitions of the position. Darren Jackson my go to number 10 guy.
Call it a false 9 to make it easier for those determined to mix it up with a 10 like Scott Allan.

Brightside
08-01-2024, 11:44 AM
That’s not strictly true. Ever since he marked McGregor out of the game at ER Vente has been playing a lot deeper, up the centre of the park. Chasing down opposition midfielders.

I said previously on the PM board that ever since we got hammered at Ibrox Montgomery has been spooked and he’s nullified Vente to try and prevent an overload in midfield.

It worked against Celtic but you don’t need to negate ourselves against any of the rest. Get him up front and he’ll score goals.

Said it elsewhere give Rudi a shot as ‘second striker’ and he’ll create for Vente whilst also doing the hard graft. A young lad with quality and determination.

Good sensible post. 👍

Trinity Hibee
08-01-2024, 11:46 AM
Call it a false 9 to make it easier for those determined to mix it up with a 10 like Scott Allan.

Just call it a false 9 from the start then. Nobody is determined to mix it up. Just pointing out he isn’t and hasn’t been playing as a 10

Brightside
08-01-2024, 11:57 AM
Just call it a false 9 from the start then. Nobody is determined to mix it up. Just pointing out he isn’t and hasn’t been playing as a 10

It really doesn’t matter. Just like the whole formation chat.

.Sean.
08-01-2024, 12:05 PM
Ryan Jack out of contract end of season. Rangers supporting mate says there’s no chance of a renewal and they may even look to unload in January though I doubt he’d want to move away until the summer. Docherty in January, Jack in summer would be a massive upgrade on our midfield going into the next season imo.


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Can almost here the reaction already of the Celtic-wannabe section of our support if that was to happen 😂

JimBHibees
08-01-2024, 12:08 PM
Can almost here the reaction already of the Celtic-wannabe section of our support if that was to happen 😂

Jack would be a good signing however never fit.

.Sean.
08-01-2024, 12:09 PM
Jack would be a good signing however never fit.
He’d be our best player if he signed IMO but probably never going to happen

Paulie Walnuts
08-01-2024, 12:27 PM
Wouldn’t go near Ryan Jack. Good player, always injured now, would likely cost a fortune

Greenio
08-01-2024, 12:28 PM
That’s not strictly true. Ever since he marked McGregor out of the game at ER Vente has been playing a lot deeper, up the centre of the park. Chasing down opposition midfielders.

I said previously on the PM board that ever since we got hammered at Ibrox Montgomery has been spooked and he’s nullified Vente to try and prevent an overload in midfield.

It worked against Celtic but you don’t need to negate ourselves against any of the rest. Get him up front and he’ll score goals.

Said it elsewhere give Rudi a shot as ‘second striker’ and he’ll create for Vente whilst also doing the hard graft. A young lad with quality and determination.


Feel losing ALF is what's upturned Montgomery's strategy with his front line no? Vente was scoring before then

Alex Trager
08-01-2024, 12:29 PM
He’d be our best player if he signed IMO but probably never going to happen

I think a midfiled with Docherty and Jack in it would be V good.

I would be concerned re Jack’s fitness though. Seems to be constantly out at the ****.

andrew70
08-01-2024, 12:48 PM
Feel losing ALF is what's upturned Montgomery's strategy with his front line no? Vente was scoring before then

Against Rangers we started with ALF and Vente then Montgomery went with Boyle and Vente against Celtic and it worked to a great extent. Boyle having our best chance, Vente completely shutting down McGregor.

Again a tactic needed against Celtic but not necessarily against the non Glasgow teams.

Vente to use his game intelligence to play on CM and Boyle to stretch the Celtic defence. As I say it worked and Montgomery has more or less stuck with it until 2nd January which also seen us produce some of our better football under Montgomery. Vente initially playing a lot higher up.

It could be argued Boyle’s forward position has also caused Vente’s poor return in front of goal but it’s very obvious that Vente’s tracking back has harmed his potency but he’s certainly not been covering width as he’s more or less worked up the centre of the park.

A tactic that works for Celtic won’t work against Hearts, Aberdeen or whoever else we are playing and that’s my one and only gripe against Montgomery. However he got completely mocked by the ‘astute tacticians’ on radio and TV for his emphasis on playing out from the back against Rangers that I can understand his desire to tighten it up a little.

Let the shackles off Vente, let him lead the line instead of shutting down opponents then let’s see where we go.

Edit: ALF can play the role Vente is doing with even greater football intelligence so you are correct that his injury has led to a greater emphasis on Vente but Montgomery also had to find a place for Boyle who just refuses to track back now. IMO The Asia Cup may well have come at a good time for Hibs. However harsh that sounds.

Torto7
08-01-2024, 12:52 PM
I think a midfiled with Docherty and Jack in it would be V good.

I would be concerned re Jack’s fitness though. Seems to be constantly out at the ****.

The wannabe Rangers fans in our support would love this :greengrin. Meanwhile in the real world Jack would be Murphy/McGeady again and Docherty is the most overrated player on here since Jason Kerr/Cummings/Darren Barr etc.

Springbank
08-01-2024, 01:21 PM
The wannabe Rangers fans in our support would love this :greengrin. Meanwhile in the real world Jack would be Murphy/McGeady again and Docherty is the most overrated player on here since Jason Kerr/Cummings/Darren Barr etc.

I can tell you what my favourite type of "overrated" is

It's an "overrated" player who scored crucial goals (including home and away derbies) in the first successful Cup Run in 114 years

I like that kind of of overrated:agree:

WeeRussell
08-01-2024, 02:59 PM
Didn’t realise Jack was 31, 32 in Feb! He’d walk into our midfield though. Good player.

Absolutely. Very good player and would add a real bit of bite/hardness/nastiness (whatever you like to call it 😁). Dont see it happening but I’d take him in a heartbeat, regardless of recent injury issues.

If he’d stayed fit this season he’d likely be going to Germany in the summer.

Paul1642
08-01-2024, 03:03 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but Hibs apparently looking to bring 20yo Kris Moore in on loan from Leeds until the end of the season as cover at RB/CB !!
Also Josh Doig linked with £5.25 mill transfer in January to Turin.


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Any idea what out sell on % is on Doig?

I know this has defiantly been answered before but can’t be bother looking back through 50+ pages to find :)

King Cosell
08-01-2024, 03:16 PM
Any idea what out sell on % is on Doig?

I know this has defiantly been answered before but can’t be bother looking back through 50+ pages to find :)

Evening News say 27.5% of profit.

Paulie Walnuts
08-01-2024, 03:16 PM
Absolutely. Very good player and would add a real bit of bite/hardness/nastiness (whatever you like to call it 😁). Dont see it happening but I’d take him in a heartbeat, regardless of recent injury issues.

If he’d stayed fit this season he’d likely be going to Germany in the summer.

His injury issues aren’t just recent. He’s been at Rangers 6 and a half seasons and he’s played 17, 30, 19, 19, 9 and 26 league games in each of his full season. Hes also managed 8 out of 20 this season and appears to be currently injured.

WeeRussell
08-01-2024, 03:33 PM
His injury issues aren’t just recent. He’s been at Rangers 6 and a half seasons and he’s played 17, 30, 19, 19, 9 and 26 league games in each of his full season. Hes also managed 8 out of 20 this season and appears to be currently injured.

Yes but I’m more concerned about his current and more recent state rather than what injuries he suffered 6 years ago.

However, just take the word “recent” out my first post and my view remains👍

Hibbyradge
08-01-2024, 03:39 PM
Yes but I’m more concerned about his current and more recent state rather than what injuries he suffered 6 years ago.

However, just take the word “recent” out my first post and my view remains👍

Conjugate the word "recent".

eastmainsmsh
08-01-2024, 03:41 PM
We spent nearly £2m in the summer 😂

And we are still pish lol

WeeRussell
08-01-2024, 04:02 PM
Conjugate the word "recent".

Oh lay off me, I’ve had a hard time.

GloryGlory
08-01-2024, 04:06 PM
Torino have met with Josh Doig's agent about transfer from verona, which is now "accelerating" according to the DR (I know!):

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/josh-doig-rangers-transfer-enters-31834680

Garymcl
08-01-2024, 04:11 PM
Good move downside he’ll be playing in maroon 😳

Hibee Daft
08-01-2024, 08:29 PM
After listening to the down the slope transfer podcast, my transfers would be:

Jack Mowatt - contract is up this summer
Jack Harper - contract is up this summer
Anthony Ralston - loan until end of season and let Megwa keep playing at Airdrie

JohnM1875
08-01-2024, 10:31 PM
‘Montgomery, who will personally interview all potential signings to gauge their character and ability to make an immediate impact, sees Hibs doing most of their work in the loan market.’

From the EEN. Like that Monty will be interviewing the players.

greenlex
08-01-2024, 11:32 PM
‘Montgomery, who will personally interview all potential signings to gauge their character and ability to make an immediate impact, sees Hibs doing most of their work in the loan market.’

From the EEN. Like that Monty will be interviewing the players.

Is that not McDermott’s gig?

Forza Fred
08-01-2024, 11:55 PM
Is that not McDermott’s gig?

I always thought that McDermott's role was to identify and possibly recommend what the manager was looking for......but that the manager has final say if we sign them or not.

Stuart93
09-01-2024, 12:06 AM
‘Montgomery, who will personally interview all potential signings to gauge their character and ability to make an immediate impact, sees Hibs doing most of their work in the loan market.’

From the EEN. Like that Monty will be interviewing the players.

Their character? I got told by a poster they were glad I wasn’t making signings at the club if I was taking character into the equation!

In all seriousness it’s one of the most important factors for me

Forza Fred
09-01-2024, 12:17 AM
It really doesn’t matter. Just like the whole formation chat.

Seems we (football people generally, not just here) have a need to use more modern 'buzzwords' or phrases..presumably to try and give their argument an air of veritas!

I've watched fitba for a very, very long time...but in recent years have seen the likes of Football IQ, Second Balls, Playing through the Lines, In the channel, False 9.s, Inverted full backs, and many more enter the football Lexicon..

I guess we simply used to call someone with "football IQ' just ''a çlever player" and 'second balls' were always ' winning a clearance or a knockdown'....

False 9 was reserved for Jim Blair though.

And ...why do we rarely hear about players taking a 'shy' or a ''bye'' any more?


No doubt others have their favourite 'modernisation' terms of what has been around for donkeys years.

King Cosell
09-01-2024, 12:40 AM
It looks like Oscar Zambrano to Bournemouth is confirmed. Loads of tweets in the last hour.

PHeffernan
09-01-2024, 02:16 AM
After listening to the down the slope transfer podcast, my transfers would be:

Jack Mowatt - contract is up this summer
Jack Harper - contract is up this summer
Anthony Ralston - loan until end of season and let Megwa keep playing at Airdrie

Who TF is Jack Mowatt?

Jack Harper will be 28 in February and has played less than 100 senior club games in his career

HoboHarry
09-01-2024, 02:21 AM
Who TF is Jack Mowatt?

Jack Harper will be 28 in February and has played less than 100 senior club games in his career

Rubbish signing that would be, hes a former Scottish referee. His match fitness might be a problem, he's been dead since 1995.

JDT
09-01-2024, 06:56 AM
Who TF is Jack Mowatt?

Jack Harper will be 28 in February and has played less than 100 senior club games in his career

Maybe he means Alex Mowatt? Ex Leeds midfielder, currently at West Brom, that's my guess anyway

Paul1642
09-01-2024, 07:25 AM
Maybe he means Alex Mowatt? Ex Leeds midfielder, currently at West Brom, that's my guess anyway

1st team starter for WBA. Don’t see him being interested or affordable.

Heisenberg
09-01-2024, 07:33 AM
Didn’t realise Jason Kerr is out of contract at Wigan. I know he’s had injuries but if they are looking like clearing up it could be worth a gamble on a pre contract. Guess it might be a long shot considering his supposed wages down there.

stokesmessiah
09-01-2024, 07:38 AM
It looks like Oscar Zambrano to Bournemouth is confirmed. Loads of tweets in the last hour.

Yup, lots of people reporting this as done now! Send him on up here ha ha

Spudster
09-01-2024, 07:46 AM
Didn’t realise Jason Kerr is out of contract at Wigan. I know he’s had injuries but if they are looking like clearing up it could be worth a gamble on a pre contract. Guess it might be a long shot considering his supposed wages down there.
How is he both out of contract and on high wages?

leith lynx
09-01-2024, 08:03 AM
Didn’t realise Jason Kerr is out of contract at Wigan. I know he’s had injuries but if they are looking like clearing up it could be worth a gamble on a pre contract. Guess it might be a long shot considering his supposed wages down there.
Was an unused sub against Man Utd last night, hopefully his injuries are behind him.

RIP
09-01-2024, 08:12 AM
‘Montgomery, who will personally interview all potential signings to gauge their character and ability to make an immediate impact, sees Hibs doing most of their work in the loan market.’

From the EEN. Like that Monty will be interviewing the players.

Article says from a shortlist compiled by Brian McDermott, presumably put together by Calvin Charlton and the Scouts/Analysts.

That's a step forward from the Jack Ross era. Jack said the first time he met one particular signing was when he met him at training.

Callum_62
09-01-2024, 08:16 AM
Surley it would be common place for any new signing to want to speak to the manager first?

I've heard it countless times about speaking to the gaffer in the phone from a new signing

Calling it "an interview" puts a different slant on it but it's the same thing surely

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GordonHFC
09-01-2024, 08:29 AM
Article says from a shortlist compiled by Brian McDermott, presumably put together by Calvin Charlton and the Scouts/Analysts.

That's a step forward from the Jack Ross era. Jack said the first time he met one particular signing was when he met him at training.

Would take what JR says with a pinch of salt.

James70
09-01-2024, 08:31 AM
Callan McKenna previously with Hibs till the age of 12 on the point of a big move from Queen's Park to Man Ltd, other big teams also after him.

TrinityHFC
09-01-2024, 08:35 AM
Surley it would be common place for any new signing to want to speak to the manager first?

I've heard it countless times about speaking to the gaffer in the phone from a new signing

Calling it "an interview" puts a different slant on it but it's the same thing surely

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I think every manager we’ve had has talked about getting the right characters and fitting with the group. We’ve also heard about discussions with the manager on their plans and where the player would fit in. Some even got detailed presentations about the role they’d play.

Nothing new in any of it. We just need them to execute on getting better players in the building more often.

Brightside
09-01-2024, 08:40 AM
Would take what JR says with a pinch of salt.

Why? Always found him to be very honest about his time at Hibs.

cubehindthegoal
09-01-2024, 08:43 AM
I always thought that McDermott's role was to identify and possibly recommend what the manager was looking for......but that the manager has final say if we sign them or not.

Yeh and then to sell them the club and make sure they have what they want and need, family and friends happy, just generally make them feel wanted and at home and wanting to sign for us. Sound like our manager is wanting to check first hand they fit the bill of what he needs .. makes total sense, surprised any manager wouldn’t want to do that.

Heisenberg
09-01-2024, 08:47 AM
How is he both out of contract and on high wages?

His contract runs out at the end of the season but he’ll still be on his big wages at Wigan until then. If he wants a move more in line with that deal we might not be able to match it. To be fair he might also not get close to a deal like that again given the injuries.

TrinityHFC
09-01-2024, 08:53 AM
His contract runs out at the end of the season but he’ll still be on his big wages at Wigan until then. If he wants a move more in line with that deal we might not be able to match it. To be fair he might also not get close to a deal like that again given the injuries.

Don’t think another player who has been injured for most of the last 3yrs should be near our list at this time.

Paulie Walnuts
09-01-2024, 09:22 AM
Don’t think another player who has been injured for most of the last 3yrs should be near our list at this time.

He’s still not actually played for the first team since his big injury. If he was to come back and play near enough every game for the rest of the season I’d probably consider him. Short of that though I’d be inclined to agree with you.

Hibby Kay-Yay
09-01-2024, 09:24 AM
His contract runs out at the end of the season but he’ll still be on his big wages at Wigan until then. If he wants a move more in line with that deal we might not be able to match it. To be fair he might also not get close to a deal like that again given the injuries.

Also feels like a risk for us to take on as he would be a high earner with a history of recent injuries.

Lago
09-01-2024, 10:25 AM
Seems we (football people generally, not just here) have a need to use more modern 'buzzwords' or phrases..presumably to try and give their argument an air of veritas!

I've watched fitba for a very, very long time...but in recent years have seen the likes of Football IQ, Second Balls, Playing through the Lines, In the channel, False 9.s, Inverted full backs, and many more enter the football Lexicon..

I guess we simply used to call someone with "football IQ' just ''a çlever player" and 'second balls' were always ' winning a clearance or a knockdown'....

False 9 was reserved for Jim Blair though.

And ...why do we rarely hear about players taking a 'shy' or a ''bye'' any more?


No doubt others have their favourite 'modernisation' terms of what has been around for donkeys years.
You speak my language Fred, but then we're of an age when football seemed simpler and dare I say it more enjoyable.

overdrive
09-01-2024, 10:33 AM
Jeggo’s wife seems to be having a mass sale/give away of stuff on her socials (baby stuff and house stuff) that she can’t “ship overseas”. Anyone heard that Jimmy Jeggo could be on the way out?

green day
09-01-2024, 10:36 AM
Didn’t realise Jason Kerr is out of contract at Wigan. I know he’s had injuries but if they are looking like clearing up it could be worth a gamble on a pre contract. Guess it might be a long shot considering his supposed wages down there.

Seems like a good lad, Hibs fan and a very good player for St Johnstone.

However...........after what seems like years of soft as babys poop defences, I want guys who are decent, solid and wont break down for several months after innocuous tackles.

Just to reiterate, I do like JK, but after Magennis, JDH, McGeady, etc I am no sure it would be a good move.

MagicSwirlingShip
09-01-2024, 10:37 AM
Jeggo’s wife seems to be having a mass sale/give away of stuff on her socials (baby stuff and house stuff) that she can’t “ship overseas”. Anyone heard that Jimmy Jeggo could be on the way out?

She’s been having these sales quite often throughout her time here

blackpoolhibs
09-01-2024, 10:39 AM
Jeggo’s wife seems to be having a mass sale/give away of stuff on her socials (baby stuff and house stuff) that she can’t “ship overseas”. Anyone heard that Jimmy Jeggo could be on the way out?

I think that is good news if true, he did a job and had a few very good performances in his time, but i'd like a better player than him if we are to get better as a team.

Saying that, i could say that about most of this lot, hopefully this is the start of a better standard of player coming to the club.:pray:

Paulie Walnuts
09-01-2024, 10:44 AM
I think that is good news if true, he did a job and had a few very good performances in his time, but i'd like a better player than him if we are to get better as a team.

Saying that, i could say that about most of this lot, hopefully this is the start of a better standard of player coming to the club.:pray:

A bit part player who’s 32 in a few weeks. He shouldn’t be getting a new deal imo.

Someone posted a list of the out of contract players for this season and next season and I think there’s a case for the vast majority, if not all of them, to not get a new deal when that time rolls around. The only ones from both seasons that I’d not want to lose at this point were Newell and Boyle but they’re out of contract in 2025 when they’ll both be 32.

Smartie
09-01-2024, 10:50 AM
Seems like a good lad, Hibs fan and a very good player for St Johnstone.

However...........after what seems like years of soft as babys poop defences, I want guys who are decent, solid and wont break down for several months after innocuous tackles.

Just to reiterate, I do like JK, but after Magennis, JDH, McGeady, etc I am no sure it would be a good move.

I know he's been out injured for a while but is this not more of a one-off serious injury than him having a poor injury record of several recurring injuries?

Obviously I'd be far keener on taking a punt if it's the former rather than the latter.

overdrive
09-01-2024, 10:57 AM
She’s been having these sales quite often throughout her time here

Fair enough, maybe reading more into this than there is. I just thought it was strange when she said it was stuff she couldn’t “ship overseas” which implies she is shipping some stuff abroad. One was a dishwasher which made me think they might be moving somewhere. They could have just bought a new dishwasher, mind.

Brightside
09-01-2024, 11:00 AM
Fair enough, maybe reading more into this than there is. I just thought it was strange when she said it was stuff she couldn’t “ship overseas” which implies she is shipping some stuff abroad.

Would be a big surprise if he is kept on.

Saint Hibee
09-01-2024, 11:07 AM
Their character? I got told by a poster they were glad I wasn’t making signings at the club if I was taking character into the equation!

In all seriousness it’s one of the most important factors for me

I totally agree that character is important, but it's almost totally impossible to gauge from a brief interview.

Hibee Daft
09-01-2024, 11:08 AM
Maybe he means Alex Mowatt? Ex Leeds midfielder, currently at West Brom, that's my guess anyway

Aye Alex Mowatt i meant to say, hes got 6 months left of his contract left but other championship clubs will probably be in for him.

Jack Harper hasnt played alot of games but think he has been a little bit unlucky and has prbably always been joining clubs above his level.

https://www.givemesport.com/88031922-jack-harper-what-happened-to-scottish-wonderkid-who-signed-for-real-madrid/

snedzuk
09-01-2024, 11:44 AM
Rubbish signing that would be, hes a former Scottish referee. His match fitness might be a problem, he's been dead since 1995.

Reserve goalie?

Hibernian Verse
09-01-2024, 12:01 PM
Aye Alex Mowatt i meant to say, hes got 6 months left of his contract left but other championship clubs will probably be in for him.

Jack Harper hasnt played alot of games but think he has been a little bit unlucky and has prbably always been joining clubs above his level.

https://www.givemesport.com/88031922-jack-harper-what-happened-to-scottish-wonderkid-who-signed-for-real-madrid/

Harper is now playing in the 4th tier of the Spanish leagues.

Hibee Daft
09-01-2024, 12:26 PM
Harper is now playing in the 4th tier of the Spanish leagues.

According to this website its ranked at 101 for leagues in europe, the scottish championship is ranked 95 for comparison.

https://www.teamform.com/en/league-ranking/europe

Unseen work
09-01-2024, 12:28 PM
I take it Matti Peltola isn’t a rumour and is more just people teeeting about him due to him being mentioned on Down The Slope?

CapitalGreen
09-01-2024, 01:04 PM
According to this website its ranked at 101 for leagues in europe, the scottish championship is ranked 95 for comparison.

https://www.teamform.com/en/league-ranking/europe

When was the last time you watched him play?

Brightside
09-01-2024, 01:33 PM
I take it Matti Peltola isn’t a rumour and is more just people teeeting about him due to him being mentioned on Down The Slope?

Yes.

blackpoolhibs
09-01-2024, 01:43 PM
I totally agree that character is important, but it's almost totally impossible to gauge from a brief interview.

Most managers talk sheite, and most managers are ex players, so its not beyond some players to bull**** their way through an interview for an hour or so.

Hibee Daft
09-01-2024, 01:59 PM
When was the last time you watched him play?

There is clips of him online if you are interested.

Yellowcard
09-01-2024, 02:03 PM
Feel losing ALF is what's upturned Montgomery's strategy with his front line no? Vente was scoring before then


Absolutely this

CapitalGreen
09-01-2024, 02:32 PM
There is clips of him online if you are interested.

I didn’t ask for clips, I asked when was the last time you watched him play?

bingo70
09-01-2024, 02:35 PM
Most managers talk sheite, and most managers are ex players, so its not beyond some players to bull**** their way through an interview for an hour or so.

Looks like I’m in the minority here but sometimes brilliant players are a bit of a dick 😂, sometimes the best ones have an ego that drives them to be the best and not everyone likes that or can take to players/people like that.

I know of one former player who couldn’t stand Sauzee, thought he was arrogant and created a divide in the changing room between the French players and the rest. I’ve no idea if that’s the case or not but I’d rather have a Sauzee that done brilliant things on the park than Joe average who’s a lovely guy but can’t kick his own arse.

Obviously there’s a balance to be had but I’m not sure I want us to put too much emphasis onto what they’re like off the pitch.

NC1875
09-01-2024, 02:40 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/11768744/hibs-man-utd-celtic-bill-foley-zambrano-transfer/

Doesn’t tell us anything we don’t already know but fingers crossed.

TrinityHFC
09-01-2024, 02:40 PM
Looks like I’m in the minority here but sometimes brilliant players are a bit of a dick 😂, sometimes the best ones have an ego that drives them to be the best and not everyone likes that or can take to players/people like that.

I know of one former player who couldn’t stand Sauzee, thought he was arrogant and created a divide in the changing room between the French players and the rest. I’ve no idea if that’s the case or not but I’d rather have a Sauzee that done brilliant things on the park than Joe average who’s a lovely guy but can’t kick his own arse.

Obviously there’s a balance to be had but I’m not sure I want us to put too much emphasis onto what they’re like off the pitch.

Not sure anyone has said they need to be nice.

SteveHFC
09-01-2024, 02:48 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/11768744/hibs-man-utd-celtic-bill-foley-zambrano-transfer/

Doesn’t tell us anything we don’t already know but fingers crossed.



" BILL FOLEY aims to use Hibs as a launch pad for new South American talent."

Can we get excited yet :hyper

Hibernian Verse
09-01-2024, 02:50 PM
" BILL FOLEY aims to use Hibs as a launch pad for new South American talent."

Can we get excited yet :hyper

Bingo in 1...2...3...

Hibee Daft
09-01-2024, 02:50 PM
I didn’t ask for clips, I asked when was the last time you watched him play?

Hahaha someone is on a ego trip... is this the chief scout im interacting with?

Dmas
09-01-2024, 03:15 PM
Really hope this is all rubber stamped on Thursday no sure how much longer I can keep a lid on all this excitement

worcesterhibby
09-01-2024, 03:27 PM
" BILL FOLEY aims to use Hibs as a launch pad for new South American talent."

Can we get excited yet :hyper

I've just watched his highlights reel and it's all elegant tackles and long diagonal passes...He's just a young Paul Hanlon with a trendy haircut !!

AlbertK86
09-01-2024, 03:56 PM
Jeggo’s wife seems to be having a mass sale/give away of stuff on her socials (baby stuff and house stuff) that she can’t “ship overseas”. Anyone heard that Jimmy Jeggo could be on the way out?

Ecudorian replacing him [emoji16]


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Smartie
09-01-2024, 03:57 PM
I've just watched his highlights reel and it's all elegant tackles and long diagonal passes...He's just a young Paul Hanlon with a trendy haircut !!

A bit like Yannick Zambernardi then?

Unseen work
09-01-2024, 04:00 PM
Hope Zambrano is actually good and not another Kuol!🤣

Aldo
09-01-2024, 04:01 PM
Bingo in 1...2...3...

You reckon he’d get to 3 if we signed this boy?? [emoji12]

Ps sorry Bingo

Smartie
09-01-2024, 05:14 PM
Jeggo’s wife seems to be having a mass sale/give away of stuff on her socials (baby stuff and house stuff) that she can’t “ship overseas”. Anyone heard that Jimmy Jeggo could be on the way out?

I've heard he's sitting next to the boarded up door with the loose bolts on the plane to Dubai.

Paul1642
09-01-2024, 05:15 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/11768744/hibs-man-utd-celtic-bill-foley-zambrano-transfer/

Doesn’t tell us anything we don’t already know but fingers crossed.

Even as a loan deal this is massively more exciting than most of the players we are very linked with. Best thing is there’s no reason that it would only be a season loan. Could be a year or 18 months.

Not getting ahead of myself, I swear.