Winter transfer thread 2023/24

[Onceinawhile]

Penrice? Aye, he’s looked decent when I’ve seen him against us.

I've heard we are in for him, but it was 2nd or 3rd hand info.

But he's 25, so not particularly young.

[flash]

Tullio can play, and score some pearlers, but I agree with you totally about his lack of pace.

I think the slower paced, more technical build up in the A League suits his style, as does the tendency for defenders not to mark closely, and he would struggle with the close marking that he would also be subject to in the SPL.

If I was in charge of Hibs and was given enough money to bring 3 A League players in it would be

Josh Nisbet and Jacob Farrell…Central Coast Mariners and Joe Gauci, Adelaide United.

That’s not to say there are no other good players in Oz..but they would be my picks.

Having said that Adelaide are about to kick off against Newcastle in a few minutes so no doubt Gauci will have a mare!

How about CCM's new Colombian winger Fred?

Rattling goals in left, right and centre.

[bingo70]

How about CCM's new Colombian winger Fred?

Rattling goals in left, right and centre.

Never seen him play but I’d be completely up for us signing a Colombian winger called Fred.

I don’t care how good or expensive he is, get it done Hibs.

[flash]

Never seen him play but I’d be completely up for us signing a Colombian winger called Fred.

I don’t care how good or expensive he is, get it done Hibs.

This might be a whoosh moment but i was asking our Fred about Angel Torres.:greengrin

[Paulie Walnuts]

This might be a whoosh moment but i was asking our Fred about Angel Torres.:greengrin

I read it the same as Bingo did and also fancied the idea of a winger called Fred :faf:

Forza, can you play winger?

[Mcbizz1998]

This might be a whoosh moment but i was asking our Fred about Angel Torres.:greengrin

Some punctuation might have made that a bit clearer. 😂

[Hibee Daft]

Young left wingback at Livingston could provide a good bit competition for obita. At the heart of most things going forward thinking at Livingston and likes a tackle. He’s big, strong and swings in a lovely cross. He wouldn’t cost a fortune. We struggled to contain him at ER in the first game against them.
Unfortunately I can’t see McIntyre making it at Hibs as he is small in stature and will eventually move on to a lower level.

Mcintyre is still young, so i wouldnt be so quick to write him or any of our youth players off. Not many players make it straight away at hibs at a young age.

[jeffers]

This might be a whoosh moment but i was asking our Fred about Angel Torres.:greengrin

I knew what you meant, otherwise your sentence would have ended Fred, Fred. :greengrin

[bingo70]

This might be a whoosh moment but i was asking our Fred about Angel Torres.:greengrin

Reported

[Greenbeard]

For me we need to aim for a player to play along side newell! With this new investment I would like to think we could aim for better, may be ok for back up as you said but I’m not convinced based on this season
I agree too. When it's available, we need to splash the cash on one or two marquee signings. Too much has already been spent on players who stand out at lower clubs but who end up adding nothing, or very little, to improve Hibs. Mind, given the dosh we got for Melko, it's hard to argue against the policy of still investing some of the cash in development players with potential.

[flash]

Reported

Not again.

[Brooster]

Young left wingback at Livingston could provide a good bit competition for obita. At the heart of most things going forward thinking at Livingston and likes a tackle. He’s big, strong and swings in a lovely cross. He wouldn’t cost a fortune. We struggled to contain him at ER in the first game against them.
Unfortunately I can’t see McIntyre making it at Hibs as he is small in stature and will eventually move on to a lower level.

Out of interest how many times have you seen McIntyre play and in particular this season when he's been on loan at QotS? He was sent on loan to get first team experience, he's started 11 out of 15 games and been man of the match twice.

[Forza Fred]

How about CCM's new Colombian winger Fred?

Rattling goals in left, right and centre.

Past two games he has.

Previous to that he was a complete huddy.

Not good enough for Hibs imho

[Forza Fred]

I read it the same as Bingo did and also fancied the idea of a winger called Fred :faf:

Forza, can you play winger?

I’m72 now, so it might take me a while to get up the pitch to get a cross in……..although thanks to ‘time added on’ I should get one in the box

[flash]

Past two games he has.

Previous to that he was a complete huddy.

Not good enough for Hibs imho

Fair enough.

[greenlex]

Out of interest how many times have you seen McIntyre play and in particular this season when he's been on loan at QotS? He was sent on loan to get first team experience, he's started 11 out of 15 games and been man of the match twice.

I obviously haven’t. The two MOTM games great. Turning it in its head he’s missed nearly a third of the games at QOS for whatever reason. Usually when one of our young guys tear it up we hear about it. Maybe I’ve not been listening?

[Brooster]

I obviously haven’t. The two MOTM games great. Turning it in its head he’s missed nearly a third of the games at QOS for whatever reason. Usually when one of our young guys tear it up we hear about it. Maybe I’ve not been listening?

You've certainly not been watching that's for sure.

[Tyler Durden]

Inter Milan apparently in for Matt O Riley. He wouldn’t be out of place in their team, would be some move.

[greenlex]

You've certainly not been watching that's for sure.

I’m glad someone has then. Let’s hope the club are on the case too.
I’ll still be surprised if he makes it at Hibs.

[Brooster]

I’m glad someone has then. Let’s hope the club are on the case too.
I’ll still be surprised if he makes it at Hibs.

He might or he might not but he's on the correct path, the path Hibs want him to be on, the same as a couple of others who are on loan.

Writing an 18 year old off you've never seen in favour of someone else you haven't seen doesn't make sense.

[Leitherhibs]

Oscar MacIntyre definitely still has a chance, still only 18 and was rated by Steve Kean as the best player in that age group, a loan spell at a League 1 club in which he is playing in a tough, competitive league definitely feels like the right environment. Maybe he'll kick on a bit now seeing the players younger than him getting involved with 1st team, which wasn't happening prior to him going out on loan..

[007]

https://x.com/aleaguemen/status/1737794301613191442?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

This assist from Nisbet is exactly what we’re missing.

Get him playing just off Vente as he did for CCM the other night and it would give us a much better balance imo

Interesting too that a player scoring regularly for them (hat trick and then double) called Angel Torres was identified and signed under Monty and Sergio. Presumably through Sergios knowledge/contacts in Portugal as he was previously at Porto. The other main attacker for them, Marco Tulio was identified in similar fashion as he was at sporting.

Really intrigued what gems they can ID with a bigger budget.

He'd have been wiped out at the halfway line if that was the SPFL.

[BT58]

Whatever happened to the former coaches laddie who we bought from Bristol City, sure he was 16 at the time, and big things where expected from him.
B

[B.H.F.C]

Whatever happened to the former coaches laddie who we bought from Bristol City, sure he was 16 at the time, and big things where expected from him.
B

Think he may be less involved with the first team now dad isn’t there.

FWIW, I thought he looked a decent footballer from the brief bits I saw of him.

[CentreForward]

If you look at that Nisbet goal the defence really is non-existent even if it was a nice ball he put through. Am not so sure about finding many gems in the Aussie league. It really isn’t a great standard. How many players have come from there and really shone here? Obviously Rogic but not many others. MacLaren did well for us and Miller looks ok at the moment. You can’t count Boyle. The ones at Hearts are generally average and none of them have really started there. I would be more than happy if we looked in a different market.

[neil7908]

Think he may be less involved with the first team now dad isn’t there.

FWIW, I thought he looked a decent footballer from the brief bits I saw of him.

It smelled a bit fishy when we signed him but then again, I was greeting about our recruitment and a few have proved me wrong since then. Plus he's still very young. It's just very rare to see us spend a six figure sum on a 16 year old.

[superfurryhibby]

It smelled a bit fishy when we signed him but then again, I was greeting about our recruitment and a few have proved me wrong since then. Plus he's still very young. It's just very rare to see us spend a six figure sum on a 16 year old.

Can’t say I was overly enamoured with the reports of a big fee to sign that laddie. He still has time, but he’s clearly not any better than what we had at that age group.

[Smartie]

It smelled a bit fishy when we signed him but then again, I was greeting about our recruitment and a few have proved me wrong since then. Plus he's still very young. It's just very rare to see us spend a six figure sum on a 16 year old.

I’m pretty sure that over time this will prove to be one of our worst ever bits of business, at a time when we really needed that money spent well elsewhere.

Rather than pointing the finger at formations etc, it’s nonsense like that that have led us from the respectable post-covid situation we found ourselves in when Jack Ross had finished 3rd to at best stagnating over the past 3 years.

[JimBHibees]

If you look at that Nisbet goal the defence really is non-existent even if it was a nice ball he put through. Am not so sure about finding many gems in the Aussie league. It really isn’t a great standard. How many players have come from there and really shone here? Obviously Rogic but not many others. MacLaren did well for us and Miller looks ok at the moment. You can’t count Boyle. The ones at Hearts are generally average and none of them have really started there. I would be more than happy if we looked in a different market.

Rowles is a decent player and a regular at Hearts. Strain has done well and Lewis Miller has huge potential

[JimBHibees]

Think he may be less involved with the first team now dad isn’t there.

FWIW, I thought he looked a decent footballer from the brief bits I saw of him.

Think Reuben looks decent good on the ball a bit lightweight. Hopefully he gets a shot.

[Brooster]

Basically we only signed McAllister because he couldn't be left alone in Bristol. His Dad then fast tracked him in to the first team squad ahead of many others.

He's doing ok in the 18s and is improving but still has a long way to go. Can't help thinking we were stitched up.

I just couldn't take to his Dad at all.

[Nicho87]

Basically we only signed McAllister because he couldn't be left alone in Bristol. His Dad then fast tracked him in to the first team squad ahead of many others.

He's doing ok in the 18s and is improving but still has a long way to go. Can't help thinking we were stitched up.

I just couldn't take to his Dad at all.


100% this

[Chipper1875]

Basically we only signed McAllister because he couldn't be left alone in Bristol. His Dad then fast tracked him in to the first team squad ahead of many others.

He's doing ok in the 18s and is improving but still has a long way to go. Can't help thinking we were stitched up.

I just couldn't take to his Dad at all.

That’s incredible and we paid a significant fee. You’d have hoped the football
Department would have validated he was a prospect worth buying

[keep the faith]

In an ideal world, the one player I would love at ER is Aberdeens Leighton Clarkson. Exactly the type of creative, attacking midfielder we are crying out for.

Maybe we use Bill's cash and offer 1.5M in cash. Or 2.5M plus Doyle Hayes...😉

[Nicho87]

Basically we only signed McAllister because he couldn't be left alone in Bristol. His Dad then fast tracked him in to the first team squad ahead of many others.

He's doing ok in the 18s and is improving but still has a long way to go. Can't help thinking we were stitched up.

I just couldn't take to his Dad at all.


100% this

[neil7908]

Basically we only signed McAllister because he couldn't be left alone in Bristol. His Dad then fast tracked him in to the first team squad ahead of many others.

He's doing ok in the 18s and is improving but still has a long way to go. Can't help thinking we were stitched up.

I just couldn't take to his Dad at all.

Oofffftt.

I was always a bit worried about his signing but trusted the club. If that's true (the reasons for signing and him getting more game time) that's very, very poor. We aren't a size of club that can chunk around £250k to keep an assistant manager happy.

[CapitalGreen]

Oofffftt.

I was always a bit worried about his signing but trusted the club. If that's true (the reasons for signing and him getting more game time) that's very, very poor. We aren't a size of club that can chunk around £250k to keep an assistant manager happy.

Luckily it wasn’t anywhere close to £250k then.

[PHeffernan]

100% this

You have made the same negative response to the same post twice, an hour apart.
The kid you are both talking about is only 17. Give him a break.

[JohnM1875]

You have made the same negative response to the same post twice, an hour apart.
The kid you are both talking about is only 17. Give him a break.

He’s also looked more than decent the few times I’ve seen him play. Plenty time for him to carve out a career at us.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Luckily it wasn’t anywhere close to £250k then.

And he also wasn’t signed because he didn’t have a babysitter.

[bingo70]

And he also wasn’t signed because he didn’t have a babysitter.

Sure when he was 16 playing for Bristol he played against Newcastle or Villa and did well. There were big clubs after him.

I don’t know if the boy is good enough or not but I don’t think it’s fair to suggest he was only signed because of his dad. That’s not really how football works.

[VoltaireHibs]

I have no idea how much we'll spend, or on who, but it's got me feeling the most Christmassy I have in years.

Dear Santa, can you (and Bill Foley) please bring me two or three top drawer signings (European or South American) that make us and the rest of the SPL go...wtf!

Please.

[PHeffernan]

He’s also looked more than decent the few times I’ve seen him play. Plenty time for him to carve out a career at us.

Looked decent to me.
Will Fish at almost 21 is easily the youngest 1st team player at the moment and come the end of the season, Tavares at 23 will be the youngest so it's not easy for young players to cut it in the top team.
Biggest worry with McAllister is his contract only has one more season after this one. A time when he is going to be heading prepared onto the launch pad. Would hate someone to nip in at that point.

[Dmas]

If you look at that Nisbet goal the defence really is non-existent even if it was a nice ball he put through. Am not so sure about finding many gems in the Aussie league. It really isn’t a great standard. How many players have come from there and really shone here? Obviously Rogic but not many others. MacLaren did well for us and Miller looks ok at the moment. You can’t count Boyle. The ones at Hearts are generally average and none of them have really started there. I would be more than happy if we looked in a different market.

There’s plenty that have done well here, I can’t believe the snobbery on here about the A-League we’ve seen a crazy amount of dross come up from down south over the years from all levels of their game.

baccus and strain at St.Mirren have been on every discussion about who we should sign this year, I think if Rowles and Devlin played for any other team in the league we’d say the same they are both good spfl level players, boy at Aberdeen Mcgarry looks decent from the little I’ve seen him so far add that to Lewis Miller who’s probably been one of our best performers, Jimmy Jeggo who has also been decent unlucky not to be in the team, McLaren was also good and rogic was outstanding for the best team in country I think we can say there’s players over there worth checking out

[Hibstrooper]

Can’t claim to be ITK but have heard from
the Livi side that we’ve signed Penrice on a pre-contract

[neil7908]

Luckily it wasn’t anywhere close to £250k then.

How much was it then?

[Callum_62]

Can’t claim to be ITK but have heard from
the Livi side that we’ve signed Penrice on a pre-contractHaven't been overly impressed with him but I guess he will be our back up left back

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[PHeffernan]

Haven't been overly impressed with him but I guess he will be our back up left back

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He ripped Hibs up in game 3.
I watched the Livi game against Aberdeen in midweek and he was again very good going forward and crossing.
Stevenson won't get another contract and Penrice would be a cheap and good fit which is important given we will have a potentially expensive Fish size hole to fix.

[Fred Perry]

Sure when he was 16 playing for Bristol he played against Newcastle or Villa and did well. There were big clubs after him.

I don’t know if the boy is good enough or not but I don’t think it’s fair to suggest he was only signed because of his dad. That’s not really how football works.

Maybe not on the whole but it does happen and pretty regularly.

Graeme Miller couldnae get a game at my School team or at Tynie boys club but got a pro contract at Hibs

[bingo70]

Maybe not on the whole but it does happen and pretty regularly.

Graeme Miller couldnae get a game at my School team or at Tynie boys club but got a pro contract at Hibs

Hibs never paid a lot of money for him though.

[Fred Perry]

Hibs never paid a lot of money for him though.

Graeme Miller couldnae kick snow off a dyke but got a professional contract, still money spent.
point is nepotism is rife throughout football.

[Forza Fred]

If you look at that Nisbet goal the defence really is non-existent even if it was a nice ball he put through. Am not so sure about finding many gems in the Aussie league. It really isn’t a great standard. How many players have come from there and really shone here? Obviously Rogic but not many others. MacLaren did well for us and Miller looks ok at the moment. You can’t count Boyle. The ones at Hearts are generally average and none of them have really started there. I would be more than happy if we looked in a different market.


I think we should look in EVERY market.

However, you may need to get used to ex A League players playing for Hibs, as one of Foley’s strategies is to sign players for Auckland develop them and send them through to the other clubs he has an interest in….then develop them some more and hopefully have them finish their journey at Bournemouth.

[PHeffernan]

Graeme Miller couldnae kick snow off a dyke but got a professional contract, still money spent.
point is nepotism is rife throughout football.

Graeme Miller is 50 years old so you probably need to get over that

[HoboHarry]

Graeme Miller is 50 years old so you probably need to get over that
I doubt he will get over anything given that his chosen name is that of a tennis player who last won a tournament in 1953 (I believe) and died in 1995.

[Brooster]

And he also wasn’t signed because he didn’t have a babysitter.

Wake up man.

[JimBHibees]

Graeme Miller is 50 years old so you probably need to get over that

:greengrin

[Iain G]

So given that Man Utd are giving a 19 year old centre back his debut, paired with a 35 year old, there must be a worry Fish will be recalled after the derby?

[Unseen work]

So given that Man Utd are giving a 19 year old centre back his debut, paired with a 35 year old, there must be a worry Fish will be recalled after the derby?

I’d imagine it’s far more likely they’ll just buy a new centre half

Fish is good young player, but he’s a million miles away from the EPL.

Championship maybe for a reasonable fee? Maybe

But he’s still got a hell of a lot to learn and his made some really poor mistakes this season, especially from getting our muscles from Oh and Biereth.

But I’d love us to somehow make him permanent as he’s shown he’s capable of really good performances and hopefully keeps improving

[TrinityHFC]

I’d imagine it’s far more likely they’ll just buy a new centre half

Fish is good young player, but he’s a million miles away from the EPL.

Championship maybe for a reasonable fee? Maybe

But he’s still got a hell of a lot to learn and his made some really poor mistakes this season, especially from getting our muscles from Oh and Biereth.

But I’d love us to somehow make him permanent as he’s shown he’s capable of really good performances and hopefully keeps improving

He’s not really a million miles away. If he hadn’t been on loan he’d probably have played. He was in that group of 5 or 6 centre halves they used all pre season and he didn’t look out of place with them.

[BoomtownHibees]

Oscar MacIntyre definitely still has a chance, still only 18 and was rated by Steve Kean as the best player in that age group, a loan spell at a League 1 club in which he is playing in a tough, competitive league definitely feels like the right environment. Maybe he'll kick on a bit now seeing the players younger than him getting involved with 1st team, which wasn't happening prior to him going out on loan..

I’ve heard that his brother Jacob is the better of the 2. Not sure if those who watch the younger teams can confirm/deny

[Since90+2]

He’s not really a million miles away. If he hadn’t been on loan he’d probably have played. He was in that group of 5 or 6 centre halves they used all pre season and he didn’t look out of place with them.

He's nowhere near English Premier League level.

If Ten Haag wants the sack and pay off one quick route to that would be to recall a player who's been on loan at a Scottish team. Fans would go absolutely mental and as soon as Fish made a mistake, which he would at that level, the media would crucify him.

[number9dream]

What's the plan for right-back when Miller's away?
Whittaker has done very well but can he go two or three games in a row?
Don't really want to see Campbell or Delferriere chucked in. Can we recall Megwa from his loan then send him back to Airdrie at the end of the month - or is that against the rules?

[Dublin07]

Haven't been overly impressed with him but I guess he will be our back up left back

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Respect your opinion but he was Motm when they beat us and very good again when we won at livi.

[K-Zazu]

What's the plan for right-back when Miller's away?
Whittaker has done very well but can he go two or three games in a row?
Don't really want to see Campbell or Delferriere chucked in. Can we recall Megwa from his loan then send him back to Airdrie at the end of the month - or is that against the rules?

Cadden be back

[Iain G]

He's nowhere near English Premier League level.

If Ten Haag wants the sack and pay off one quick route to that would be to recall a player who's been on loan at a Scottish team. Fans would go absolutely mental and as soon as Fish made a mistake, which he would at that level, the media would crucify him.

He has just given a debut to a 19 year old centre back as they are patched up at the back, at least Fish has first team experience

[Billy Whizz]

He has just given a debit to a 19 year old centre back as they are patched up at the back, at least Fish has first team experience

I wonder if Hibs are aware of what’s happening with Fish in January

[Callum_62]

Respect your opinion but he was Motm when they beat us and very good again when we won at livi.Yeah, I've seen him put in a few good crosses but outside that he's looked fairly average to me

I haven't seen much of him but what I have doesn't strike me as a new first choice left back to get us up to third

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[TrinityHFC]

He's nowhere near English Premier League level.

If Ten Haag wants the sack and pay off one quick route to that would be to recall a player who's been on loan at a Scottish team. Fans would go absolutely mental and as soon as Fish made a mistake, which he would at that level, the media would crucify him.

They had to play a younger and less experienced centre half yesterday. There was also an 18 year old who did make a mistake that led to a goal and I don’t think anyone has been crucified.

[Fred Perry]

Graeme Miller is 50 years old so you probably need to get over that
Was just making a point pal, no need for being nippy 👍

[Fred Perry]

I doubt he will get over anything given that his chosen name is that of a tennis player who last won a tournament in 1953 (I believe) and died in 1995.

probably funny in your head when you came up with this cracker, did you know these dates or actually take the time to look them up to make a hilarious post 🤔

[Joe6-2]

No need for personal digs guys

[21sMay]

Hearing there's definitely 1 midfielder already signed

[Unseen work]

They had to play a younger and less experienced centre half yesterday. There was also an 18 year old who did make a mistake that led to a goal and I don’t think anyone has been crucified.

Tbf them playing those players doesn’t mean fish is ready for the EPL or is good enough. More that they’re down to the bare bones.

They’ll sign players that are good enough.

No different to us playing Molotnikov and mcallister pre season and being pretty impressed - doesn’t mean they’re SPFL level.

[Unseen work]

Hearing there's definitely 1 midfielder already signed

Nisbet

[McD]

Hearing there's definitely 1 midfielder already signed



Ooh, that’s nice news to read on Christmas morning :greengrin any names?

[Bridge hibs]

Nisbet

Michael Stewart, he is pulling on the boots again so he can give us a bit of identity 🫣

[Wilson]

Was just making a point pal, no need for being nippy 👍

Your post was pretty amusing. You said it happened fairly regularly then compared two players 30 years apart!

Saying that, I was reading up on Real Kashmir yesterday and Mason Robertson, son of ex-manager David is still over there. So there is one, a bit more recent, that backs up your point.

[Stevie Reid]

He has just given a debut to a 19 year old centre back as they are patched up at the back, at least Fish has first team experience

They paid £3.5M for Kambwala when he was 16 years old, and he’s apparently very highly rated. Fish wouldn’t be going in ahead of him.

[TrinityHFC]

They paid £3.5M for Kambwala when he was 16 years old, and he’s apparently very highly rated. Fish wouldn’t be going in ahead of him.

That money is nothing though.

Fish already has a first team appearance and played pretty much all the way through their pre season. They gave him an 5 yr contract so also highly rated. Every chance he’d have been playing just now when they are down at least four centre halfs.

[Paul1642]

That money is nothing though.

Fish already has a first team appearance and played pretty much all the way through their pre season. They gave him an 5 yr contract so also highly rated. Every chance he’d have been playing just now when they are down at least four centre halfs.

Pretty rubbish situation for us if he returns to them in January. I was really hoping we would get him permanently and that he would be the mainstay of our defence for years to come but if he has a sniff a a few premiership appearances for Man United couldn’t blame him in the slightest for jumping at the chance (not that it’s his choice anyway really).

[Stevie Reid]

That money is nothing though.

Fish already has a first team appearance and played pretty much all the way through their pre season. They gave him an 5 yr contract so also highly rated. Every chance he’d have been playing just now when they are down at least four centre halfs.

If £3.5M is nothing, then so is a five year contract given to a 16 year old. I’d be astonished if Fish were to play in the Utd first team.

[TrinityHFC]

If £3.5M is nothing, then so is a five year contract given to a 16 year old. I’d be astonished if Fish were to play in the Utd first team.

Do you mean again? He’s already played for their first team.

[Since90+2]

Do you mean again? He’s already played for their first team.

Was that not about 3 years ago? The fact he's not played a single competitive game since should tell you what Man Utd think about his ability to play at that level.

[Stevie Reid]

Do you mean again? He’s already played for their first team.

He came on as a sub in the 95th minute of their final game of the season in 2021. Was on the park for two minutes.

[jacomo]

He came on as a sub in the 95th minute of their final game of the season in 2021. Was on the park for two minutes.


Feels like anything could happen at Man Utd over the next month. They might try to recall everyone on their books so the new folk involved can take a fresh look at them.

I don’t understand football finance and I certainly don’t understand this deal. Why pay over £1bn for 25% of a mismanaged club, when the people mismanaging it are still in charge?

[Dmas]

Feels like anything could happen at Man Utd over the next month. They might try to recall everyone on their books so the new folk involved can take a fresh look at them.

I don’t understand football finance and I certainly don’t understand this deal. Why pay over £1bn for 25% of a mismanaged club, when the people mismanaging it are still in charge?

The Mismanaged part of the club is the football side of things and that’s what they are getting to run, be interesting to see what happens at Man Utd over the next 18-24months, be very surprised if they recall fish for anything other than another loan to a championship club though

[TrinityHFC]

He came on as a sub in the 95th minute of their final game of the season in 2021. Was on the park for two minutes.

Okay, but you said you’d be astonished if he played for the first team. He has already. They gave him a five year deal, sent him on loan to develop further and he was a big part of all their pre season games.

I don’t think he will ever be a first choice for them, I’m just countering suggestions he is a million miles away from being an EPL player. He really isn’t.

[calumb]

Okay, but you said you’d be astonished if he played for the first team. He has already. They gave him a five year deal, sent him on loan to develop further and he was a big part of all their pre season games.

I don’t think he will ever be a first choice for them, I’m just countering suggestions he is a million miles away from being an EPL player. He really isn’t.


I would have said the same about Matt Doherty, thought he was a good player for us but wouldn't do much in England but the lad certainly got a shot at the top

[McD]

Okay, but you said you’d be astonished if he played for the first team. He has already. They gave him a five year deal, sent him on loan to develop further and he was a big part of all their pre season games.

I don’t think he will ever be a first choice for them, I’m just countering suggestions he is a million miles away from being an EPL player. He really isn’t.



Not necessarily disagreeing, however he was a big part of their preseason because they had so few fit centre backs, rather than because he’s so highly rated. They even signed Jonny Evans to a 2 month deal just to make up numbers for their preseason programme, albeit he subsequently signed a longer deal, again mostly due to lack of fit central defenders.

[Since90+2]

Okay, but you said you’d be astonished if he played for the first team. He has already. They gave him a five year deal, sent him on loan to develop further and he was a big part of all their pre season games.

I don’t think he will ever be a first choice for them, I’m just countering suggestions he is a million miles away from being an EPL player. He really isn’t.

Why do you think he's only ever played 2 minutes of competitive football for them in his entire career?

Because they clearly don't think he's good enough would be my guess, otherwise he'd be playing not sent on loan to a league that quality wise is about the same as the top of league 1.

Thats not to say Fish isn't a good young player.

If I had to guess I think he'll see out the season at us and then he'll end up in the English Championship next season.

[Greenio]

Fish is a good player. If he's being considered to be brought back to play for man UTD I'd be surprised. Feel they were hedging their bets with this Jan cal back clause just in case he excelled which I don't think he has. Although it's hard to really shine in the spl. My guess is he'll extend to end of season with us and then move to the predicable path of loaned out to a higher caliber than us.

Means he can put in a top performance against Hearts and help us send them back to Gorgie with a spanking 3-0 win!

[Since90+2]

I would have said the same about Matt Doherty, thought he was a good player for us but wouldn't do much in England but the lad certainly got a shot at the top

Doherty left us then spent 4 or 5 years playing about 200 games in the Championship before moving up to the Premier League.

There is a reason for that, the jump from our level to that league is too big. And that goes for teams throughout the league, nevermind Man Utd who are currently 6th and aiming to qualify for the Champions League spots.

It's not a criticism of Fish btw, I think he can go on to have a good career but I think a dose is realism of needed to the suggestion he is going to leave Hibs and be in and around the Man Utd first team.

[J-C]

If Man U want to get back to the top 4 in EPL, then Fish isn't the CB to do that. He's a decent young player who'll probably end up a good career in the championship but I've seen nothing from him that suggests otherwise, similar to Porteous who's now struggling to get a game at Watford.

[HibsGW]

If Man U want to get back to the top 4 in EPL, then Fish isn't the CB to do that. He's a decent young player who'll probably end up a good career in the championship but I've seen nothing from him that suggests otherwise, similar to Porteous who's now struggling to get a game at Watford.

Porteous has played 20 of 24 league games for Watford having 8 bookings, he started on 23rd December. Assume 8 bookings will have had him suspended at some point at least so looks like he’s playing all the time really?

[Crunchie]

Porteous has played 20 of 24 league games for Watford having 8 bookings, he started on 23rd December. Assume 8 bookings will have had him suspended at some point at least so looks like he’s playing all the time really?
:agree: he's the epitome of a first team regular if ever there was one.

[J-C]

Porteous has played 20 of 24 league games for Watford having 8 bookings, he started on 23rd December. Assume 8 bookings will have had him suspended at some point at least so looks like he’s playing all the time really?

Yea I noticed that, sure I read on another thread he hadn't played the last few weeks and the fans wee getting a wee bit annoyed with him.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

similar to Porteous who's now struggling to get a game at Watford.

Late contender for worst take of the year

[Billy Whizz]

Yea I noticed that, sure I read on another thread he hadn't played the last few weeks and the fans wee getting a wee bit annoyed with him.

He played on Saturday and they won at Blackburn
Didn’t play yesterday and the lost 4-1 at home to Bristol City

[Paulie Walnuts]

He played on Saturday and they won at Blackburn
Didn’t play yesterday and the lost 4-1 at home to Bristol City

He’s played every week near enough.

He has however been getting a hard time of it this season. Their fans haven’t been impressed with him at all this season. They’ve picked up a bit recently though so he’s maybe seen an upturn in his form.

[CapitalGreen]

He played on Saturday and they won at Blackburn
Didn’t play yesterday and the lost 4-1 at home to Bristol City

Blackburn down in 15th with 5 defeats in their last 6 games, can see JDT getting the boot soon, he doesn’t appear to have improved them at all.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Blackburn down in 15th with 5 defeats in their last 6 games, can see JDT getting the boot soon, he doesn’t appear to have improved them at all.

Last season was their highest league finish since they fell out the EPL over a decade ago. Until their bad run that they’re currently on they were sitting in a similar position to last season, in and around the playoff spot.

If he can’t turn their current form around then he’ll obviously get sacked, he’s done a fairly decent job there though. They’ve got a good wee run coming up, so it’ll likely be make or break for him.

[J-C]

He’s played every week near enough.

He has however been getting a hard time of it this season. Their fans haven’t been impressed with him at all this season. They’ve picked up a bit recently though so he’s maybe seen an upturn in his form.

Maybe picked the post about him wrong, knew his fans haven't been overly impressed recently with him, he was a bit like that here

[jacomo]

Doherty left us then spent 4 or 5 years playing about 200 games in the Championship before moving up to the Premier League.

There is a reason for that, the jump from our level to that league is too big. And that goes for teams throughout the league, nevermind Man Utd who are currently 6th and aiming to qualify for the Champions League spots.

It's not a criticism of Fish btw, I think he can go on to have a good career but I think a dose is realism of needed to the suggestion he is going to leave Hibs and be in and around the Man Utd first team.


You’re right, there’s a huge gulf in quality between the top divisions in England and Scotland. I doubt John McGinn would have gone straight into the Villa team if they were already in the EPL.

Doesn’t make it more likely we can hold onto Fish though. They may recall him with a view to selling him on.

I do think the SPL is good for toughening up talented young players though, I’m sure he is benefiting from his time here.

[04Sauzee]

With Boyle, Miller and now Rocky called up for international cup competition I wonder what we will do in January for cover.

[bingo70]

With Boyle, Miller and now Rocky called up for international cup competition I wonder what we will do in January for cover.

Wollacott been involved in recent Ghana squads too.

Dundee Utd Australian goalie Birghitti has had an absolute disaster for Utd but prior to that was a good goalie for CCM when Montgomery was there. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was brought in to provide cheap cover for Marshall while Wollacott is away for the African nations cup.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Wollacott been involved in recent Ghana squads too.

Dundee Utd Australian goalie Birghitti has had an absolute disaster for Utd but prior to that was a good goalie for CCM when Montgomery was there. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was brought in to provide cheap cover for Marshall while Wollacott is away for the African nations cup.

I’d be happy to stick with our dev squad keepers to be honest.

[big gogs]

You’re right, there’s a huge gulf in quality between the top divisions in England and Scotland. I doubt John McGinn would have gone straight into the Villa team if they were already in the EPL.

Doesn’t make it more likely we can hold onto Fish though. They may recall him with a view to selling him on.

I do think the SPL is good for toughening up talented young players though, I’m sure he is benefiting from his time here.
I maybe wrong in this,are hibs in the process of getting will fish on a permanent contract.sure the manager made a statement along these lines.

[Smartie]

Maybe picked the post about him wrong, knew his fans haven't been overly impressed recently with him, he was a bit like that here

There’s just always that feeling with him that he’s better than he’s showing, and that’s frustrating for a fan.

He’s largely been immaculate for Scotland, started very well at Watford and his ceiling of performance is very high.

It makes it harder to accept poorer performances or silly stuff from him.

[Trinity Hibee]

I’d be happy to stick with our dev squad keepers to be honest.

Yep. Birghitti is *****!

[JimBHibees]

Wonder if any future signings in the stand tonight. Would imagine if being lined up would want to see game

[Crunchie]

Late contender for worst take of the year
He's come out with some belters of late, last night's Man Utd game he played his usual blinder :agree:

[Since90+2]

Fish playing for Man Utd 😅😅

[Haymaker]

Sign ****ing Griffiths. He'd have scored us the winning goals.

[Tambo]

Would Megwa be any worse than Miller? Overall I still think Miller has a lot to learn, We still have Cadden to come back who has shown he's not the greatest RB at times.

Looks like we need to find another LB with again Overall Obita has not shown to be that man, he's had the few good moments.

I can't see Levitt and Newell being the way forward with this style Monty wants to play week in week out.

We have a decent front 4 on paper who have not produced as a team so far this season imo.

Alot of work to be done for Monty.

[percy veer]

Get van veen in, hearts will probs sell Shankland and get him in

[VoltaireHibs]

Get van veen in, hearts will probs sell Shankland and get him in

He's training at Rangers apparently. SniperHeid will probably remain at the bus shelter, unless an English Champ team come calling. He's definitely up for a move.

[VoltaireHibs]

Ask Swansea if Kukharevych is available on loan. I think he'd be much more up NM's alley than Vente.

[Joe6-2]

Wonder if any future signings in the stand tonight. Would imagine if being lined up would want to see game

They will be running a mile by now

[blackpoolhibs]

If Man U want to get back to the top 4 in EPL, then Fish isn't the CB to do that. He's a decent young player who'll probably end up a good career in the championship but I've seen nothing from him that suggests otherwise, similar to Porteous who's now struggling to get a game at Watford.
I doubt fish will play championship football in his career.

[1875Sean]

Wollacott been involved in recent Ghana squads too.

Dundee Utd Australian goalie Birghitti has had an absolute disaster for Utd but prior to that was a good goalie for CCM when Montgomery was there. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was brought in to provide cheap cover for Marshall while Wollacott is away for the African nations cup.

Please no, would rather have the young keepers for a few weeks as cover

[Forza Fred]

One player mentioned in the very first post can be scrubbed.

Brazilian striker Marco Tulio of the Mariners.

He’s been sold to a Japanese J1 side today

[JohnM1875]

This Jan window is so important for us. Need three or four quality players to come in and start for us. Hard to find that in January though.

Hope the rumour about a midfielder already signed is true. I know we have JDH to come back, but he can’t be relied upon to stay fit.

Think we need;

Starting CM
An actual striker to partner Vente
CB, maybe two with Rocky being away for a bit
LB though that could probably wait til end of the season.

[AlbertK86]

This Jan window is so important for us. Need three or four quality players to come in and start for us. Hard to find that in January though.

Hope the rumour about a midfielder already signed is true. I know we have JDH to come back, but he can’t be relied upon to stay fit.

Think we need;

Starting CM
An actual striker to partner Vente
CB, maybe two with Rocky being away for a bit
LB though that could probably wait til end of the season.

Think Obita is fine.

Right back is the problem


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[JohnM1875]

Think Obita is fine.

Right back is the problem


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Obita is definitely fine, it’s competition/cover for the position. Stevenson will probably do til the end of the season though.

Cadden should be back soon so think Miller and Cadden is enough competition/cover for that position. Agree we probably need better than both though.

[hfc-1875]

We need at least 1 centre back that’s going to come in and start, a right back, a centre mid and a striker

[mcfly]

You can see what the manager is trying to do but you can’t play that style of football with players that can’t pass a ball.

Hibs lack identity. They have a group of highly paid bang average players with no bottle.

There’s no leader in there with passion to lead them.

I watched the programme after with frank sauzee and here is a champions league winner talking so passionately about coming to hibs and yogi Hughes was the leader. We need someone like that who won’t accept the mediocrity.

Without serious investment it’s hard to see how hibs progress with this batch of players. They spent a lot of money on Vente and he did nothing

Bushiri when he gets the ball just panics.

We have to accept we are middle of the league at best.

[GreenCastle]

Heard Miller could be away in Jan.

[JohnM1875]

Heard Miller could be away in Jan.

Interesting, any idea where? Should get a decent fee for him, current contract with us runs to 2025

[neil7908]

Ask Swansea if Kukharevych is available on loan. I think he'd be much more up NM's alley than Vente.

If he's fit I think he'd be the perfect foil for Vente.

[JohnM1875]

If he's fit I think he'd be the perfect foil for Vente.

Looks like he’s just back from a month out with a knee injury

Played nine times for them scoring once. 45 minutes the longest he’s been on the pitch.

[Heisenberg]

Heard Miller could be away in Jan.

I think something has definitely happened with Miller in the past few weeks. Dropped completely vs Livi. Randomly gets played in the reserve game in the midweek after it. Looked so far off it last night.

Egan Riley back please if he’s fit.

[Carheenlea]

Heard Miller could be away in Jan.

Back to the barbers to get his haircut finished.

[Nicho87]

Looks like his mind was gone last night

Whether that’s in the Australia team of another club team

But that passage of play in the second half where he gave the ball away twice in a row

Worst performance from him

[Eyrie]

Heard Miller could be away in Jan.

I think that would benefit both parties.

Miller is good enough to be at Hibs but not good enough to improve us so his departure would make the decision for us on replacing him. That can wait until the summer as we've got Cadden coming back.

[truehibernian]

Expect a left sided centre half and left winger coming in January - no names given but NM has made it clear that’s his priority areas in the window.

[J-C]

After last night's performance Miller isn't the only one I'd like rid off.

[J-C]

Expect a left sided centre half and left winger coming in January - no names given but NM has made it clear that’s his priority areas in the window.

I wonder if Harbottle will be allowed to go back south and maybe see Rocky as back up.

[JimBHibees]

They will be running a mile by now

:greengrin

[neil7908]

Expect a left sided centre half and left winger coming in January - no names given but NM has made it clear that’s his priority areas in the window.

Left winger seems a really weird one to me given Tavares has been excellent and seems to fit with the managers formation and tactics. We also have Boyle and Youan that can play out wide.

For me, Vente needs a proper partner if we are going 442. Boyle doesn't cut it.

[truehibernian]

I wonder if Harbottle will be allowed to go back south and maybe see Rocky as back up.

The only bit of exciting news last night was hearing about Foley’s plans for the club and HTC - a lot of work has been done already to outline the plan, and trust me it’s very exciting if and when approved.

[truehibernian]

Left winger seems a really weird one to me given Tavares has been excellent and seems to fit with the managers formation and tactics. We also have Boyle and Youan that can play out wide.

For me, Vente needs a proper partner if we are going 442. Boyle doesn't cut it.

Came direct from someone high up at the club Neil. That’s the priory areas being targeted apparently.

[04Sauzee]

The only bit of exciting news last night was hearing about Foley’s plans for the club and HTC - a lot of work has been done already to outline the plan, and trust me it’s very exciting if and when approved.

Hearing from who?
Can it be shared?

[Blaster]

Came direct from someone high up at the club Neil. That’s the priory areas being targeted apparently.

Hope it’s the boy Armstrong from Killie. I wanted us to get him in the summer. Can play either wing

[Trinity Hibee]

Hope it’s the boy Armstrong from Killie. I wanted us to get him in the summer. Can play either wing

I can’t see him coming here. Will have better offers surely

[Blaster]

I can’t see him coming here. Will have better offers surely

Probably will but I like to hope

[truehibernian]

Hearing from who?
Can it be shared?

Would rather not, but the plans for HTC in particular sound incredible. All departments from first team, academy, and community benefitting. A lot of work has clearly gone in to the proposal.

[04Sauzee]

Would rather not, but the plans for HTC in particular sound incredible. All departments from first team, academy, and community benefitting. A lot of work has clearly gone in to the proposal.

Cheers for the info, hope we get the green light.

[Musselbound]

Left winger seems a really weird one to me given Tavares has been excellent and seems to fit with the managers formation and tactics. We also have Boyle and Youan that can play out wide.

For me, Vente needs a proper partner if we are going 442. Boyle doesn't cut it.

Yeah absolutely. Jair is the most improved player under Monty and from highlights played well again last night. Meanwhile the form of the likes of Youan and Vente has dipped. I think Van Veen would be a good signing if we could afford him. But sounds like Rangers might be in for him and I suspect Hearts too if Shankland were to go.

[snedzuk]

Back to the barbers to get his haircut finished.

Does that involve gluing hair back on.

[Crab apple]

Expect a left sided centre half and left winger coming in January - no names given but NM has made it clear that’s his priority areas in the window.

I understand the need for a left sided CH. Disappointed that we are not looking at centre midfield if NM insists on continuing with the current formation.

[neil7908]

Came direct from someone high up at the club Neil. That’s the priory areas being targeted apparently.

Not doubting your sources, just think Tavares is pretty much one of the first names on the team sheet for me.

I think he could maybe offer a bit more creatively but it's clear he can play as a left midfielder, including all the tracking back that this entails.

Boyle and Youan struggle with that (to put it lightly).

[sleeping giant]

Expect a left sided centre half and left winger coming in January - no names given but NM has made it clear that’s his priority areas in the window.

How many wingers do we need ?
We don't even use the ones we have effectively .

[B.H.F.C]

Heard Miller could be away in Jan.

If he is, he won’t be difficult to replace IMO.

I actually think we’ll see quite a few move on between now and the summer that might surprise a few but that needs to happen.

[B.H.F.C]

Not doubting your sources, just think Tavares is pretty much one of the first names on the team sheet for me.

I think he could maybe offer a bit more creatively but it's clear he can play as a left midfielder, including all the tracking back that this entails.

Boyle and Youan struggle with that (to put it lightly).

I wouldn’t be surprised if we sold Youan. Don’t think Montgomery totally trusts him and I’m not sure Youan is all that fussed about being here either.

[Hibstrooper]

For me a second striker / #10 is a priority over a left winger. A younger, fitter ALF type player, someone who is really smart at finding the pockets and creating chances which would hopefully unleash Vente

[eastterrace]

Not doubting your sources, just think Tavares is pretty much one of the first names on the team sheet for me.

I think he could maybe offer a bit more creatively but it's clear he can play as a left midfielder, including all the tracking back that this entails.

Boyle and Youan struggle with that (to put it lightly).I just can’t see what Tavares brings to the team, he keeps taking the easy option. He wouldn’t get into the hearts team imo and we really need better than him. No wonder we bounce along in mid table when we sign bang average players.

[Trinity Hibee]

I just can’t see what Tavares brings to the team, he keeps taking the easy option. He wouldn’t get into the hearts team imo and we really need better than him. No wonder we bounce along in mid table when we sign bang average players.

I agree I don’t think he is currently good enough to be starting. However, the improvement in the last few months has been staggering in my view

[ruthven_raiders]

I agree I don’t think he is currently good enough to be starting. However, the improvement in the last few months has been staggering in my view

I think he is good enough to start some of his tracking back and retrieving the ball was an example to some others, but I get some hibs supporters aren't of that opinion, tho everyone agrees there has been a remarkable turnaround. Tho I do wish he would take players on and get to the bye line more often....

[superfurryhibby]

I hope the people running the club wake up to the fact that we need players in who are going to be first choice picks.

That was an awful display last night. They were pretty gash too.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I hope the people running the club wake up to the fact that we need players in who are going to be first choice picks.

That was an awful display last night. They were pretty gash too.

They were absolutely terrible. Said it elsewhere but both teams deserved to lose that game last night.

That being said, that doesn’t matter if you score a 90th minute winner and it’s amplified if you concede one.

[Real Emerald]

Would rather not, but the plans for HTC in particular sound incredible. All departments from first team, academy, and community benefitting. A lot of work has clearly gone in to the proposal.

Is plans for improving HTC exciting, should I swap my seat in the East to HTC. I would rather hear news of our plans for the team not HTC. Very bitter today!

[JohnM1875]

Is plans for improving HTC exciting, should I swap my seat in the East to HTC. I would rather hear news of our plans for the team not HTC. Very bitter today!

Same. To be honest what we have at HTC and Easter Road is already much better than 10 out of 12 teams in our league.

We need better players. So obvious.

[truehibernian]

I just can’t see what Tavares brings to the team, he keeps taking the easy option. He wouldn’t get into the hearts team imo and we really need better than him. No wonder we bounce along in mid table when we sign bang average players.

For me Jair was the only one showing, creating, and getting into the box from outwide. Just a shame Boyle, Vente and Youan were all completely off it last night. The three ludicrous tricks Youan did on the bye line when he came on should be saved for when you’re 2-0 up into injury time too - yes, they came off, but didn’t lead anywheee and was needless showboating where if he’d lost possession we’d have been in trouble as we’d pressed high.

Passing, decision making, drive and creative ambition - all completely lacking last night against a bang bang average Hearts side.

[truehibernian]

Is plans for improving HTC exciting, should I swap my seat in the East to HTC. I would rather hear news of our plans for the team not HTC. Very bitter today!

Don’t worry, there are investments into the first team planned too - better players need better facilities however (indoor facility, sports science, medical) - the plans are exciting on all fronts mate.

[superfurryhibby]

For me Jair was the only one showing, creating, and getting into the box from our wide. Just a shame Boyle, Vente and Youan were all completely off it last night. The three ludicrous tricks Youan did on the bye line when he came on should be saved for when you’re 2-0 up into injury time too - yes, they came off, but didn’t lead anywheee and was needless showboating where if he’d lost possession we’d have been in trouble as we’d pressed high.

Passing, decision making, drive and creative ambition - all completely lacking last night against a bang bang average Hearts side.

Youan was the only Hibs player capable of beating a man. Jair had lots of possession and wasted it.

[Real Emerald]

Don’t worry, there are investments into the first team planned too - better players need better facilities however (indoor facility, sports science, medical) - the plans are exciting on all fronts mate.

Good because the best Hibs teams I’ve ever seen trained on the beach and public parks. The investment can’t come quick enough, fingers crossed 🤞

[Not In The Know]

First team investment MUST start this jan. it's been mentioned many times before we need our shot at the Euro group stages and the car it brings in.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Don’t worry, there are investments into the first team planned too - better players need better facilities however (indoor facility, sports science, medical) - the plans are exciting on all fronts mate.

We’re not signing EPL standard players though and until we do, we don’t need EPL standard facilities. Our facilities are more than adequate for the players we have. They’re better than everyone else outside the Old Firm and better than the vast majority of Championship/League One teams which is who were competing with for signings. Our facilities probably already exceed our standard of player at this point in time, they don’t need to be improved further until the playing side improves.

[Trinity Hibee]

First team investment MUST start this jan. it's been mentioned many times before we need our shot at the Euro group stages and the car it brings in.

Unless we win the cup I feel that ship has sailed after last night.

[JohnM1875]

Don’t worry, there are investments into the first team planned too - better players need better facilities however (indoor facility, sports science, medical) - the plans are exciting on all fronts mate.

That’s actually phenomenal to hear.

[Basildon Hibs]

I understand the need for a left sided CH. Disappointed that we are not looking at centre midfield if NM insists on continuing with the current formation.

Correct. It's tough, skillful midfielders we need. Every man and his dug can see that. Why not our ****ing managers??!!

[truehibernian]

We’re not signing EPL standard players though and until we do, we don’t need EPL standard facilities. Our facilities are more than adequate for the players we have. They’re better than everyone else outside the Old Firm and better than the vast majority of Championship/League One teams which is who were competing with for signings.

The improvements if they get the go ahead have to show within the Articles of the game that football across all facets will be improved hence part of the plan includes a wider community plan (including the women’s team) . Don’t let a derby defeat cloud judgement, there are big plans for player recruitment but the overall investment has to be for the enrichment and overall benefit of Scottish football (and Hibs).

[The Modfather]

Left winger seems a really weird one to me given Tavares has been excellent and seems to fit with the managers formation and tactics. We also have Boyle and Youan that can play out wide.

For me, Vente needs a proper partner if we are going 442. Boyle doesn't cut it.

I’d not start recruitment with Tavares, but for all there is to like about him it doesn’t look like we will get many goals or assists from him despite all the good things he does.

[Tyler Durden]

The improvements if they get the go ahead have to show within the Articles of the game that football across all facets will be improved hence part of the plan includes a wider community plan (including the women’s team) . Don’t let a derby defeat cloud judgement, there are big plans for player recruitment but the overall investment has to be for the enrichment and overall benefit of Scottish football (and Hibs).

Based on what criteria?

[truehibernian]

Based on what criteria?

Social Return on Investment in Football that the SFA endorsed and support via UEFA.

[McD]

The improvements if they get the go ahead have to show within the Articles of the game that football across all facets will be improved hence part of the plan includes a wider community plan (including the women’s team) . Don’t let a derby defeat cloud judgement, there are big plans for player recruitment but the overall investment has to be for the enrichment and overall benefit of Scottish football (and Hibs).



Is this all because Foley also owns/part owns a few other teams?


Because I don’t remember any of this stuff having to be demonstrated when the Gordons came in, or when Hearts became fan owned, or when Anderson has been pumping money into hearts. I don’t even remember it happening when Ashley bought into Rangers. Didn’t Cormack bring external investment into Aberdeen a while back?


Not having a go at you at all, it just seems like we’re being asked to jump through all sorts of hoops in order to have someone invest in the club.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The improvements if they get the go ahead have to show within the Articles of the game that football across all facets will be improved hence part of the plan includes a wider community plan (including the women’s team) . Don’t let a derby defeat cloud judgement, there are big plans for player recruitment but the overall investment has to be for the enrichment and overall benefit of Scottish football (and Hibs).

The improvements? As in the investment? If that’s the case and we essentially have to spend any investment based on criteria set by the SFA and UEFA then that is an absolute joke.

[CropleyWasGod]

Social Return on Investment in Football that the SFA endorsed and support via UEFA.

Is this the case for all minority shareholders, or just those with a proposed holding of over 25%?

I'm not seeing any of that in the SFA'a Article 13, which is (AFAIK) what the Club are applying under.

[truehibernian]

Is this the case for all minority shareholders, or just those with a proposed holding of over 25%?

I'm not seeing any of that in the SFA'a Article 13, which is (AFAIK) what the Club are applying under.

As far as I know it’s the wider perspective also being presented by the club to show the investment is not only a first team investment but an all inclusive programme of investment in infrastructure for the benefit of all levels (at the club) and including the wider (football) community in and around the Lothians and HTC.

Judging by the reaction of some I wish I hadn’t posted now 😂 (not you) - I’m only passing on what was told and for me moving forward as a club it’s sounding exciting and really progressive for Hibs from 1st team down to the youth and kids levels.

[Lago]

The only bit of exciting news last night was hearing about Foley’s plans for the club and HTC - a lot of work has been done already to outline the plan, and trust me it’s very exciting if and when approved.
The sooner the better based on last night.

[Lago]

As far as I know it’s the wider perspective also being presented by the club to show the investment is not only a first team investment but an all inclusive programme of investment in infrastructure for the benefit of all levels (at the club) and including the wider (football) community in and around the Lothians and HTC.

Judging by the reaction of some I wish I hadn’t posted now �� (not you) - I’m only passing on what was told and for me moving forward as a club it’s sounding exciting and really progressive for Hibs from 1st team down to the youth and kids levels.
You'll get no thanks from a certain section on here. For me it does sound exciting and progressive.

[CropleyWasGod]

As far as I know it’s the wider perspective also being presented by the club to show the investment is not only a first team investment but an all inclusive programme of investment in infrastructure for the benefit of all levels (at the club) and including the wider (football) community in and around the Lothians and HTC.

Judging by the reaction of some I wish I hadn’t posted now 😂 (not you) - I’m only passing on what was told and for me moving forward as a club it’s sounding exciting and really progressive for Hibs from 1st team down to the youth and kids levels.

Thanks for that. Sounds like the club are dressing up (in a good way) the basic application that they have to make.

[truehibernian]

The improvements? As in the investment? If that’s the case and we essentially have to spend any investment based on criteria set by the SFA and UEFA then that is an absolute joke.

Not the way it was explained to me Stubbsy, rather, Hibs were/are going that extra mile themselves (not under any SFA direction, but rather to augment their social investment policy and evidence the contribution it’ll make). The plan is driven by the club and BF, I think they just want to ensure they evidence an exciting mid to long term model 👍

[truehibernian]

Thanks for that. Sounds like the club are dressing up (in a good way) the basic application that they have to make.

That’s exactly it CWG 👍

[BILLYHIBS]

35m signing Fabio Silva ( Wolves ) to join The Rangers on loan in January

Reporting Scotland

[04Sauzee]

35m signing Fabio Silva ( Wolves ) to join The Rangers on loan in January

Reporting Scotland

Wonder if there was ever any interest in Shankland from them? Heard a few people say Van Veen has been trying with Rangers but not sure if there is anything in that or not.

[Lago]

35m signing Fabio Silva ( Wolves ) to join The Rangers on loan in January

Reporting Scotland
There's the gulf if that's true.

[Unseen work]

There's the gulf if that's true.

Yep, could you even imagine if we got a player on loan that cost 3.5 million!

There will still be posts moaning when the 35 million striker skins our defenders who collectively cost about 500k

[Lago]

Yep, could you even imagine if we got a player on loan that cost 3.5 million!

There will still be posts moaning when the 35 million striker skins our defenders who collectively cost about 500k
I could write those post now, put them in a sealed envelope and produce them on the appropriate day:agree:

[HoboHarry]

I could write those post now, put them in a sealed envelope and produce them on the appropriate day:agree:

With the correct posters name included.

[Not In The Know]

Social Return on Investment in Football that the SFA endorsed and support via UEFA.

That’s mental. How much did the **** pish away trying to stop 10 in a row when Mike Ashley had a stake i bet zero went on projects for the benefit of Scottish football

[eastmainsmsh]

What’s the Craic with Van Veen would love him here

[Forza Fred]

The sooner the investment is approved the better.

Then we might have a skerrick of hope to latch on to.

Can’t be that many Hibees who are happy with our mediocre existence at the moment.

[PHeffernan]

I maybe wrong in this,are hibs in the process of getting will fish on a permanent contract.sure the manager made a statement along these lines.

Montgomery would like to sign him on a permanent but he has no chance.
I predict he will be sent out on loan to an English Championship club next season and probably sold for £1 million after that.

[StevieHendo]

Montgomery would like to sign him on a permanent but he has no chance.
I predict he will be sent out on loan to an English Championship club next season and probably sold for £1 million after that.

If he's worth 1m i might need to get my boots out we could buy 2 centre halfs better for that figure.

Agree with previous Posters point regarding K.Van Veen though, he'd be a coup. Excluding Kyogo/Shankland would come in be 3rd best forward in the league

[PHeffernan]

If he's worth 1m i might need to get my boots out we could buy 2 centre halfs better for that figure.

Agree with previous Posters point regarding K.Van Veen though, he'd be a coup. Excluding Kyogo/Shankland would come in be 3rd best forward in the league

You need to read my post more closely. I said I think Fish will be sold for £1 million after spending next season on loan in the English Championship. That gives 20 years old Fish 18 months to further develop which is 6 months longer than he has been playing regularly at Hibs.
Harry Clarke that was on loan at Hibs was sold to Ipswich for £1 million after a Championship loan at Stoke and young Melkersen was recently sold for a similar sum despite not being a starter at Hibs. Fish is already an established top 6 SPFL player and a decent loan spell in the Championship next season would see him easily worth £1 million.

Miovski is currently a better striker than Van Veen who is now closer to 33 years old than 32. The dutchman has scored 5 goals this season in the same 2nd tier of Dutch football we brought Vente from. His indian summer was probably last season.
Groningen will at least want his wages covered and we are already nursing and paying 37 years old Le Fondre so I can't see it.

Can't see Hearts going for him either given they will hold onto Shankland until summer as he now all but guarantees them 3rd place and the riches that European group football provides.

[superfurryhibby]

Montgomery would like to sign him on a permanent but he has no chance.
I predict he will be sent out on loan to an English Championship club next season and probably sold for £1 million after that.

Why would we gave no chance? We just sold a player for over a million.

[PHeffernan]

Why would we gave no chance? We just sold a player for over a million.

Man Utd are developing the player and have him on a long contract. They won't be in a hurry to punt a 20 year old player until they find his level. At his young age he has flourished in the SPFL and I think Man Utd will have plans to send him to the next level next season, which is the English Championship. That will be a tough test but if he does well there they could easily sell him for a couple of million quid.
The player will also have ambitions to play at the highest level he can and I reckon that will be at a higher level than Hibs.

[HoboHarry]

You need to read my post more closely. I said I think Fish will be sold for £1 million after spending next season on loan in the English Championship. That gives 20 years old Fish 18 months to further develop which is 6 months longer than he has been playing regularly at Hibs.
Harry Clarke that was on loan at Hibs was sold to Ipswich for £1 million after a Championship loan at Stoke and young Melkersen was recently sold for a similar sum despite not being a starter at Hibs. Fish is already an established top 6 SPFL player and a decent loan spell in the Championship next season would see him easily worth £1 million.

Miovski is currently a better striker than Van Veen who is now closer to 33 years old than 32. The dutchman has scored 5 goals this season in the same 2nd tier of Dutch football we brought Vente from. His indian summer was probably last season.
Groningen will at least want his wages covered and we are already nursing and paying 37 years old Le Fondre so I can't see it.

Can't see Hearts going for him either given they will hold onto Shankland until summer as he now all but guarantees them 3rd place and the riches that European group football provides.
If sevco come calling Shankland will be gone whether Hearts like it or not.

[PHeffernan]

If sevco come calling Shankland will be gone whether Hearts like it or not.

Rangers have just taken forward Favio Silva on loan from Wolves who signed him a couple of years ago for £35 million.
They also already have a slow striker in Dessers so doubtful they need Shankland.

[Greenio]

I don't think it will be The Rangers that sign Shankland. Would be too much for them to stomach selling their best player to a rival. I'm pretty sure that he'll be away though. Just the narrative that's been created around it from inside the club and the player himself

[HoboHarry]

I don't think it will be The Rangers that sign Shankland. Would be too much for them to stomach selling their best player to a rival. I'm pretty sure that he'll be away though. Just the narrative that's been created around it from inside the club and the player himself

Doesn't matter what they think, if sevco want him he'll go. Relatively speaking he's a cheap option for sevco and he'll score his fair share for them.

[HoboHarry]

Rangers have just taken forward Favio Silva on loan from Wolves who signed him a couple of years ago for £35 million.
They also already have a slow striker in Dessers so doubtful they need Shankland.

Whatever his weaknesses, Shankland is an upgrade on Dessers.

[Torto7]

Yep, could you even imagine if we got a player on loan that cost 3.5 million!

There will still be posts moaning when the 35 million striker skins our defenders who collectively cost about 500k

Every season the **** blow money on an expensive player and hes the greatest thing in the world. Aaron Ramsay was honking, same with Bruno Alves.

[PHeffernan]

Whatever his weaknesses, Shankland is an upgrade on Dessers.

If you were Hearts you wouldn't sell Shankland until the summer due to the almost certain bounty of European group stage football if you hold onto him and 3rd place. Without him they are toothless.
8 points ahead of Hibs who still have Rangers to play in our 2nd round of fixtures which could see them an unassailable 11 points clear of us at that stage with 11 games to play before the split. Aberdeen, with European competition now out of the way, will be their closest challengers but need to win all their games in hand to get close.

Losing to St Johnstone and Hearts has killed Hibs chances of 3rd and probably 4th.
Montgomery has accumulated a dire 21 points from 15 league games as a result of not playing to the strength of the players at his disposal.
Only Tavares and Marshall have improved since he came in and his system has made Miller, Youan, Boyle and Levitt worse.
He's also not using our best left sided centre half or our effective centre forward.

[PHeffernan]

Every season the **** blow money on an expensive player and hes the greatest thing in the world. Aaron Ramsay was honking, same with Bruno Alves.

You can tell if they have brought a good player in on loan because they don't have an option to buy.
This season it is Sima and now Silva

[HoboHarry]

If you were Hearts you wouldn't sell Shankland until the summer due to the almost certain bounty of European group stage football if you hold onto him and 3rd place. Without him they are toothless.
8 points ahead of Hibs who still have Rangers to play in our 2nd round of fixtures which could see them an unassailable 11 points clear of us at that stage with 11 games to play before the split. Aberdeen, with European competition now out of the way, will be their closest challengers but need to win all their games in hand to get close.

Losing to St Johnstone and Hearts has killed Hibs chances of 3rd and probably 4th.
Montgomery has accumulated a dire 21 points from 15 league games as a result of not playing to the strength of the players at his disposal.
Only Tavares and Marshall have improved since he came in and his system has made Miller, Youan, Boyle and Levitt worse.
He's also not using our best left sided centre half or our effective centre forward.
You've managed to turn a comment about about Shankland into commenting about NM, league positions and Hibs players performances? Hearts can't stop Shankland leaving in January if he wants to leave and he will if Sevco want him and are offering better money.

[HoboHarry]

You can tell if they have brought a good player in on loan because they don't have an option to buy.
This season it is Sima and now Silva
On the telly only obviously but every time I've seen Silva play I've wondered how he justified that type of transfer fee - he has nothing in the way of physicality and I'll be astonished if he's in Scotland beyond the summer.

[J-C]

There's the gulf if that's true.

TBF the lad signed as an 18 year old at a stupid price and has done literally nothing of note in his Wolves career so far with 4 goals in 62 games for them, been on loan twice and came from Porto B side.

[Smartie]

Every season the **** blow money on an expensive player and hes the greatest thing in the world. Aaron Ramsay was honking, same with Bruno Alves.

A lot seems to be being made of how much Wolves paid for this guy - but the number of games he has played and goals he has scored are hardly outstanding.

If he was that good would Wolves be happily sending him on loan to Scotland?

He has “latest high profile Sevco dud” written all over him imo but the transfer fee and profile etc is exactly the sort of thing that hoodwinks their hordes into thinking they're still relevant.

[superfurryhibby]

Montgomery would like to sign him on a permanent but he has no chance.
I predict he will be sent out on loan to an English Championship club next season and probably sold for £1 million after that.

So, you predict he will sell for a million and I respond by asking why that would be out of our price range, given we just sold a dud for over a million,


Man Utd are developing the player and have him on a long contract. They won't be in a hurry to punt a 20 year old player until they find his level. At his young age he has flourished in the SPFL and I think Man Utd will have plans to send him to the next level next season, which is the English Championship. That will be a tough test but if he does well there they could easily sell him for a couple of million quid.
The player will also have ambitions to play at the highest level he can and I reckon that will be at a higher level than Hibs.

So, ramp it up a bit and go to 2 million, which I would agree, we aren't spending on Fish.

Who knows what Man U want or intend, or perhaps more importantly, what Will Fish wants. He likes being at Hibs and seems to be a sensible guy. What if he wants to remain at Hibs, what if he fancies developing at ER? How long is he under contract at Man U? Maybe he isn't good enough for the Championship (he isn't at the moment).

Yes, Fish will have ambitions to play as high a level as his ability allows, and that might be higher than the SPFL. However, at the current time he is not exactly showing that he's an exceptional player at our level.

[Haymaker]

TBF the lad signed as an 18 year old at a stupid price and has done literally nothing of note in his Wolves career so far with 4 goals in 62 games for them, been on loan twice and came from Porto B side.

He was quality on Football Manager a couple years back though.

[J-C]

He was quality on Football Manager a couple years back though.

Haha even though I love that game I've seen some real huddies being great in game.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Doesn't matter what they think, if sevco want him he'll go. Relatively speaking he's a cheap option for sevco and he'll score his fair share for them.

If they sell Shankland for decent money and that allowed them to bring in Van Veen, I would say that would be decent business.

[GloryGlory]

If they sell Shankland for decent money and that allowed them to bring in Van Veen, I would say that would be decent business.

Am I the only one who doesn't understand the fuss about Van Veen? An almost 33 year old who has had one good season in his career whilst the rest was spent doing not much at all at the football hotspots of Scunthorpe, Northampton and the Dutch lower leagues.

[bingo70]

Am I the only one who doesn't understand the fuss about Van Veen? An almost 33 year old who has had one good season in his career whilst the rest was spent doing not much at all at the football hotspots of Scunthorpe, Northampton and the Dutch lower leagues.

No, I agree with you.

If he was a reasonable price I’d be up for us signing him but I wouldn’t pay big money for him. I don’t think he’d be the guaranteed success some think he would be.

[Tyler Durden]

A lot seems to be being made of how much Wolves paid for this guy - but the number of games he has played and goals he has scored are hardly outstanding.

If he was that good would Wolves be happily sending him on loan to Scotland?

He has “latest high profile Sevco dud” written all over him imo but the transfer fee and profile etc is exactly the sort of thing that hoodwinks their hordes into thinking they're still relevant.

I agree with your overall point about the **** self image thing

But in terms of Silva’s quality, he’s been on loan to Anderlecht and PSV in the last 2 seasons and had a 1 in 3 scoring rate. So he’s a good player at this level.

Who knows what they’re actually paying for the boy

[archie]

So, you predict he will sell for a million and I respond by asking why that would be out of our price range, given we just sold a dud for over a million,



So, ramp it up a bit and go to 2 million, which I would agree, we aren't spending on Fish.

Who knows what Man U want or intend, or perhaps more importantly, what Will Fish wants. He likes being at Hibs and seems to be a sensible guy. What if he wants to remain at Hibs, what if he fancies developing at ER? How long is he under contract at Man U? Maybe he isn't good enough for the Championship (he isn't at the moment).

Yes, Fish will have ambitions to play as high a level as his ability allows, and that might be higher than the SPFL. However, at the current time he is not exactly showing that he's an exceptional player at our level.

Fish maybe likes being at Hibs on Man U wages.

[aberhibsfc]

If Foley wanted to, not that he would unless in majority ownership or gave up the prima dona Bournemouth who happen to be in the prestigious EPL, he could blow the OF out the water in terms of spending power. But he won't, even a modest investment by his standard could move us to a Porto scenario which can compete with a duopoly.

What we don't need is any more trips to B&Q for paint. Yes, we need to be prudent financially, but we need to stop being so modest about it. The likesnof Law, Dalglish et Al didn't ply their trade at state of the art facilities. Our facilities are likely up there with the OF, if not already surpassing. We're money balling at the moment with youngsters, we need to move onto experienced players too such as Van Veen if we want to start turning our beautiful clubs assets into points.

[Rumble de Thump]

We'll be signing players in January but it won't be with money from Black Knight.

[Since90+2]

If Foley wanted to, not that he would unless in majority ownership or gave up the prima dona Bournemouth who happen to be in the prestigious EPL, he could blow the OF out the water in terms of spending power. But he won't, even a modest investment by his standard could move us to a Porto scenario which can compete with a duopoly.

What we don't need is any more trips to B&Q for paint. Yes, we need to be prudent financially, but we need to stop being so modest about it. The likesnof Law, Dalglish et Al didn't ply their trade at state of the art facilities. Our facilities are likely up there with the OF, if not already surpassing. We're money balling at the moment with youngsters, we need to move onto experienced players too such as Van Veen if we want to start turning our beautiful clubs assets into points.

Foley is less wealthy than Dermot Desmond, when you add in the size of their revenue brought in from commercial operations I highly doubt he could blow them out that water.

[superfurryhibby]

Fish maybe likes being at Hibs on Man U wages.

How much do you imagine he’ll be getting paid? I have no idea what Man U offer laddies that are there to fill a gap/ develop and sell on or whatever they do with youngsters.

Equally, I don’t know the going rate for a Championship centre half, no doubt there are huge variables there too.

I like Fish. He played his best football when partnered with Hanlon, last third of the season. Hasn’t been so great this season, but being paired with Rocky, that is a challenge for anyone.

He is about to turn 21 soon, has potential to improve and likes being here. Signing him would be an indicator of some ambition from Hibs. Not sure why is would be so unlikely, but......wtf do I know.

[Haymaker]

Foley is less wealthy than Dermot Desmond, when you add in the size of their revenue brought in from commercial operations I highly doubt he could blow them out that water.

Personally he is less wealthy but BKI have vast resources.

[GreenPJ]

I think Fish has the potential to play at a mid placed EPL club (such as Bournemouth). Foley should see this as an opportunity to sign him up for Hibs and after another 18 months he MAY have a CH that he has bought for little money but could step in to Bournemouth to compete at CH and still have lots of development opportunity ahead of him (and therefore sell on value).

[ancient hibee]

Obviously Bournemouth would have to buy him from Hibs.

[big gogs]

Personally he is less wealthy but BKI have vast resources.
I was under the impression that mr. Foley has a personal fortune of £1.5 billion.

[Haymaker]

I was under the impression that mr. Foley has a personal fortune of £1.5 billion.

He does. And DD has $2.2b.

But it is Black Knight S&E Investments buying into Hibs. While Bill Foley is the lead investor, there are others. I imagine they could invest a huge amount if they wanted to but FFP rules and ROI would mean they won't.

[Aldo]

He does. And DD has $2.2b.

But it is Black Knight S&E Investments buying into Hibs. While Bill Foley is the lead investor, there are others. I imagine they could invest a huge amount if they wanted to but FFP rules and ROI would mean they won't.

Is that not part of the Ryan ventures group or whatever their names are and they are worth in excess of £11b

[Haymaker]

Is that not part of the Ryan ventures group or whatever their names are and they are worth in excess of £11b

Ryan bought into Bompey, it looks like via part of BKI. And if he is then yeah, he's worth a few quid!

[Aldo]

Ryan bought into Bompey, it looks like via part of BKI. And if he is then yeah, he's worth a few quid!

Sounds like it!

[Torto7]

Foley is less wealthy than Dermot Desmond, when you add in the size of their revenue brought in from commercial operations I highly doubt he could blow them out that water.

It's not just Foley he's the head. The other guy dwarves DD.

[archie]

How much do you imagine he’ll be getting paid? I have no idea what Man U offer laddies that are there to fill a gap/ develop and sell on or whatever they do with youngsters.

Equally, I don’t know the going rate for a Championship centre half, no doubt there are huge variables there too.

I like Fish. He played his best football when partnered with Hanlon, last third of the season. Hasn’t been so great this season, but being paired with Rocky, that is a challenge for anyone.

He is about to turn 21 soon, has potential to improve and likes being here. Signing him would be an indicator of some ambition from Hibs. Not sure why is would be so unlikely, but......wtf do I know.

I've read various stories about what someone at his age and stage would earn This claims to know, but who knows?
https://salarysport.com/football/player/will-fish/

[geohibby]

Kai Fotheringham looks a decent player, only 20

[Smartie]

Kai Fotheringham looks a decent player, only 20

I watched that game tonight and he was definitely the liveliest player (aside from Watt’s finishing being very good).

[LaMotta]

How much do you imagine he’ll be getting paid? I have no idea what Man U offer laddies that are there to fill a gap/ develop and sell on or whatever they do with youngsters.

Equally, I don’t know the going rate for a Championship centre half, no doubt there are huge variables there too.

I like Fish. He played his best football when partnered with Hanlon, last third of the season. Hasn’t been so great this season, but being paired with Rocky, that is a challenge for anyone.

He is about to turn 21 soon, has potential to improve and likes being here. Signing him would be an indicator of some ambition from Hibs. Not sure why is would be so unlikely, but......wtf do I know.


I've read various stories about what someone at his age and stage would earn This claims to know, but who knows?
https://salarysport.com/football/player/will-fish/

That seems a really low estimate for Fish at Man U. Mikey Stewart got a 4 year contract with Man U between the ages of 20 and 24 back in 2000 - and he was on £12k a week back then......

[archie]

That seems a really low estimate for Fish at Man U. Mikey Stewart got a 4 year contract with Man U between the ages of 20 and 24 back in 2000 - and he was on £12k a week back then......

I had heard that, but couldn't find a source. Who knows for sure, but I suspect he will be on a good wedge.

[Unseen work]

Remember Joaquin Sosa? Young Uraguyan left sided centre back.

Linked with him last summer but then got interest from CSKA Moscow before signing for Bologna.

Hardly played for them and went on loan to Dynamo Zagreb where again he’s not played - the loan had an option to buy however reports are saying it’s being terminated on the first of January with him returning to Bologna.

Will we see us go for him again? A position we’re screaming out for.

[superfurryhibby]

I had heard that, but couldn't find a source. Who knows for sure, but I suspect he will be on a good wedge.

The website with Fish's wages (£2.500/week).

It lists Le Fondre as being on 18k/week and Tavares on £590.00/week. It's probably fair to say it's not very accurate.

[GloryGlory]

Remember Joaquin Sosa? Young Uraguyan left sided centre back.

Linked with him last summer but then got interest from CSKA Moscow before signing for Bologna.

Hardly played for them and went on loan to Dynamo Zagreb where again he’s not played - the loan had an option to buy however reports are saying it’s being terminated on the first of January with him returning to Bologna.

Will we see us go for him again? A position we’re screaming out for.

So a guy who hasn't played in about 8/9months and will be decidedly ring rusty? Not sure about one. It'll take him until March/April to get back to match fitness

[Since90+2]

The website with Fish's wages (£2.500/week).

It lists Le Fondre as being on 18k/week and Tavares on £590.00/week. It's probably fair to say it's not very accurate.

Fish will be on atleast double if not treble that IMO.

[JohnM1875]

Fish will be on atleast double if not treble that IMO.

Surely not? Don’t big prem teams like Utd etc have hundreds of youth players? Can’t see them all being on £5k plus. Especially on the length of contract he signed.

Saying that I don’t really have a clue and I’m just guessing.

[Since90+2]

Surely not? Don’t big prem teams like Utd etc have hundreds of youth players? Can’t see them all being on £5k plus. Especially on the length of contract he signed.

Saying that I don’t really have a clue and I’m just guessing.

I'm pretty sure I read, of course could be *****, that Brandon Barker was on 12k a week at city.

[JohnM1875]

I'm pretty sure I read, of course could be *****, that Brandon Barker was on 12k a week at city.

🤯 Jesus!

[#2 Double Tap]

🤯 Jesus!

sure he was on over 100K haha

[AL-Qaholik]

The website with Fish's wages (£2.500/week).

It lists Le Fondre as being on 18k/week and Tavares on £590.00/week. It's probably fair to say it's not very accurate.

Don't know where their info comes from but, Football Manager has ALF at £13.5k plus bonuses.

The rest of the Hibs wages on there look entirely feasible.

Could be pure guesswork, though.

[Silversand]

Read on Facebook (yes, i know [emoji16]) that Megwa to be recalled from Airdrie.

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[B.H.F.C]

Read on Facebook (yes, i know [emoji16]) that Megwa to be recalled from Airdrie.

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Would make sense with Miller potentially away until mid February, Cadden still not fit and only Whittaker currently available. I’d think Megwa would come back and be ahead of of Whittaker as well.

[Not In The Know]

Read on Facebook (yes, i know [emoji16]) that Megwa to be recalled from Airdrie.

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Does he play RB?

[JohnM1875]

Does he play RB?

That’s what I’m wondering as well. I know he can play there, but I think a few folk have suggested he’s a better CB?

[Heisenberg]

Does he play RB?

Think he’s been man of the match for them playing at right back a good few times.