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Callum_62
14-01-2024, 07:33 PM
Mauritania goalkeeper Babacar Niasse (27).- Born in Senegal, Niasse started football as an attacking midfielder, but changed to a goalkeeper.- Known for his exceptional height. He stands at 1.95m (6 ft 5 in) tall.- He was the goalkeeper for the Senegal U17 at the 2011 African U-17 Championship.- He was called up to represent Mauritania in March 2022. 2758527586Bath of beans it isn't him

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Bridge hibs
14-01-2024, 07:41 PM
Bath of beans it isn't him

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bingo70
14-01-2024, 07:46 PM
Bath of beans it isn't him

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Yeah, I think we can say with some certainty it isn’t that guy.

Rumble de Thump
14-01-2024, 07:51 PM
Could be Freddie Owens.

Lancs Harp
14-01-2024, 07:55 PM
Milan 1 Roma 0. 50 mins.

At least our Leith San Siro pitch is in better nic than the Milan version.

Sorry just realised posted on the wrong thread

Billy Whizz
14-01-2024, 07:59 PM
Could be Freddie Owens.

Have you ever seen Freddie😂

Ronniekirk
14-01-2024, 08:00 PM
Watched the Monty interview got the impression it was very much stalling chat until hopefully the Foley move comes through.
Thought it’s clear we won’t be seeing any Foley money this transfer window as deal unlikely to be rubber stamped in time

Rumble de Thump
14-01-2024, 08:03 PM
Have you ever seen Freddie😂

Yes.

EGL2000
14-01-2024, 08:11 PM
Weird that, pretty much every Dundee United fan was jizzing about him when they were in the Prem last year. Remember him playing well against us at ER

Yeah there was a large deal of early hype, you get when players like that first break through. Died down considerably now. A few thought he would breeze the championship and has been hit and miss so they aren't largely fussed.

Bridge hibs
14-01-2024, 08:19 PM
Yeah, I think we can say with some certainty it isn’t that guy.I was just having a giraffe

HibeeMackenzie
14-01-2024, 08:20 PM
Cudjoe was one of the stars of my champions league winning hibs team on fm last year, but in the same breath so were Levitt, Melkersen and Ethan Laidlaw

McD
14-01-2024, 08:24 PM
For new players coming in and reading here. We invited for training some guy who is at Leeds who hasn't played a full 90 mins in three years and some chubby Brazilian who has a penchant allegedly for dressing up in drag. Apart from that, nothing else to report so far.


Hmm. I'd rather leave analysing and recruitment of players to guys who know what they are doing and what they get paid for. Just a shame we have not really had such people at Hibs for few years. Maybe McDermott is the guy, time will tell.

What I will, as a supporter, is see what these players are like when they come in the door, watch them and give judgements once they have been here for a while. Hibs net is a great platform to discuss our thoughts on these players.



Won’t do any research but happy to put the boot into the player based on something you think you read?

You’ll give judgements once they’ve been here a while, yet you’re slating him for not being able to complete 90 minutes before he’s even signed, and saying the Brazilian is chubby(presumably also without bothering to do any research)?

And you describe yourself as a supporter? Hate to see what you’d be like if you weren’t being supportive just now

Lago
14-01-2024, 08:46 PM
No worries, it isn’t that much out of place on this thread anyway.
Best input for ages, well said. :aok:

brog
14-01-2024, 09:01 PM
Won’t do any research but happy to put the boot into the player based on something you think you read?

You’ll give judgements once they’ve been here a while, yet you’re slating him for not being able to complete 90 minutes before he’s even signed, and saying the Brazilian is chubby(presumably also without bothering to do any research)?

And you describe yourself as a supporter? Hate to see what you’d be like if you weren’t being supportive just now

Excellent!

brog
14-01-2024, 09:25 PM
Cudjoe can’t get into a rank rotten Dundee United team. If he’s meant to be coming into our squad and making an immediate impact I’d be very surprised.

That's the rank rotten team, currently top of the Championship, and the team we took 1 point off last season! FWIW I think Cudjoe is an excellent potential signing!

Hibees1973
14-01-2024, 09:27 PM
Won’t do any research but happy to put the boot into the player based on something you think you read?

You’ll give judgements once they’ve been here a while, yet you’re slating him for not being able to complete 90 minutes before he’s even signed, and saying the Brazilian is chubby(presumably also without bothering to do any research)?

And you describe yourself as a supporter? Hate to see what you’d be like if you weren’t being supportive just now

As I said earlier, it's not my job to research players. I've got another job which I'm qualified to do.

Maybe some people on here spend their time researching players then contact Hibs to go and have a look at them. I don't.

As with some other posters I have little faith in what's going on at Hibs just now. I'll still support Hibs by going along to watch them in the hope things will get better.

GreenCastle
14-01-2024, 09:40 PM
Purely personal opinion

The squad NM has inherited is not well suited to 4-4-2

If that's what we are stuck with as the one sole tactic for the season, then he needs an all-rounder midfielder, with experience, ready to start, to accompany Newell (as I like Jeggo, and Levitt could be a 10, but those boys ONLY suit a three man midfield and are no use in a 4-4-2 formation).

Similarly, there is pressure on the central defenders in a 442, and we need someone there, who is a Findlay-type, ready to start and be reasonable in SPFL standard.

If NM doesn't;t get these signings, then he needs to change from 442 (imo) and he'll be entitled to ask questions of the board, as he's clearly a 442 man.

I would go as far as if we play 4-4-2 we need x2 new central midfielders and one to replace Newell plus a better new centre back.

The team lose too many goals and lack of CDM protection means CBs are often left in trouble / out of position.

Newell doesn’t make enough tackles so would need an all rounder.

Bottom line finding players for a 4-4-2 in central midfield is very hard at our budget. (If we stick with same midfield / formation - we will be our own worst enemy).

1875Sean
14-01-2024, 09:49 PM
I would go as far as if we play 4-4-2 we need x2 new central midfielders and one to replace Newell plus a better new centre back.

The team lose too many goals and lack of CDM protection means CBs are often left in trouble / out of position.

Newell doesn’t make enough tackles so would need an all rounder.

Bottom line finding players for a 4-4-2 in central midfield is very hard at our budget. (If we stick with same midfield / formation - we will be our own worst enemy).

Newell is one of our best players and one of the best midfielders outside the ugly twins

B.H.F.C
14-01-2024, 09:54 PM
I would go as far as if we play 4-4-2 we need x2 new central midfielders and one to replace Newell plus a better new centre back.

The team lose too many goals and lack of CDM protection means CBs are often left in trouble / out of position.

Newell doesn’t make enough tackles so would need an all rounder.

Bottom line finding players for a 4-4-2 in central midfield is very hard at our budget. (If we stick with same midfield / formation - we will be our own worst enemy).

Still maintain the players are a bigger issue than the system. And playing the players in a different system wouldn’t see a massive change, if any, in our defensive fortunes IMO. If you look at the recent goals we’ve lost, two v Motherwell, Shankland’s in the derby, they’re nothing to do with us being exposed or having lack of cover.

If we continue with two in the middle of the park, which we will, then you are sacrificing something in there. Jack Ross did it a lot with just Newell and Gogic but the other areas of the team were better. In this team we should be better in the final third but we are generally weak all over the park.

I write the above as someone who thinks it’s daft having one system and one system only, but we were equally as hopeless defensively playing any other system as well. We’ve just no got the players to defend properly IMO.

J-C
14-01-2024, 10:05 PM
Still maintain the players are a bigger issue than the system. And playing the players in a different system wouldn’t see a massive change, if any, in our defensive fortunes IMO. If you look at the recent goals we’ve lost, two v Motherwell, Shankland’s in the derby, they’re nothing to do with us being exposed or having lack of cover.

If we continue with two in the middle of the park, which we will, then you are sacrificing something in there. Jack Ross did it a lot with just Newell and Gogic but the other areas of the team were better. In this team we should be better in the final third but we are generally weak all over the park.

I write the above as someone who thinks it’s daft having one system and one system only, but we were equally as hopeless defensively playing any other system as well. We’ve just no got the players to defend properly IMO.

We weren't very good in a 433, 4231 or even a 352, you could very well be right that it's the players and not the system, unfortunately we have too many on deals that are too long and it's the level of players we can afford to deal in, we need more money for better players.

Ozyhibby
14-01-2024, 10:53 PM
Half way through January and no business done. Anyone would think things were going well.[emoji849]


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Since452
15-01-2024, 05:29 AM
Half way through January and no business done. Anyone would think things were going well.[emoji849]


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Do we not have a Brazilian drag queen and a 20 year old from Leeds training with us? Sounds Ike it's going well to me... Trust the process.

Bridge hibs
15-01-2024, 05:38 AM
Do we not have a Brazilian drag queen and a 20 year old from Leeds training with us? Sounds Ike it's going well to me... Trust the process.We have a Brazilian midfielder and a young lad from Leeds training with us, there could be more or there might not be, good to see you on board though

flash
15-01-2024, 05:53 AM
Half way through January and no business done. Anyone would think things were going well.[emoji849]


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Talk us through everyone else's moves. It won't take you long.

Alex Trager
15-01-2024, 06:00 AM
Talk us through everyone else's moves. It won't take you long.

I agree actually. I’ve not been paying much attention but all I’ve seen so far is the hins signing before Jan and Spurs’ activity.

JohnM1875
15-01-2024, 06:02 AM
Talk us through everyone else's moves. It won't take you long.

St Johnstone - 3 in
Ross County - 2 in
Hearts - 1 in
Killie - 1 in
St Mirren - 2 in
Livi - 2 in
Dundee - 1 in
Rangers - 1 in

Been plenty incomings this window.

Bridge hibs
15-01-2024, 06:05 AM
St Johnstone - 3 in
Ross County - 2 in
Hearts - 1 in
Killie - 1 in
St Mirren - 2 in
Livi - 2 in
Dundee - 1 in
Rangers - 1 in

Been plenty incomings this window.A few of those teams have lost players too so outgoings as well

JohnM1875
15-01-2024, 06:07 AM
A few of those teams have lost players too so outgoings as well

Absolutely. To be expected, still incomings and activity.

Since90+2
15-01-2024, 06:30 AM
Do we not have a Brazilian drag queen and a 20 year old from Leeds training with us? Sounds Ike it's going well to me... Trust the process.

Where is the drag queen reference coming from?

J-C
15-01-2024, 06:50 AM
Where is the drag queen reference coming from?

There's a pic of him in some lingerie camping it up, obviously done for some fun at the time but now coming back to bite him.

Unseen work
15-01-2024, 07:26 AM
Toure just uploaded a photo of Boyle with the 🐐 🤝 emojis

He’s also now following Megwa too, in addition to Whittaker and Boyle.

jacomo
15-01-2024, 07:26 AM
Do we not have a Brazilian drag queen and a 20 year old from Leeds training with us? Sounds Ike it's going well to me... Trust the process.


Feel free to repeat tabloid slurs if you must… :rolleyes:

CallumLaidlaw
15-01-2024, 07:26 AM
There's a pic of him in some lingerie camping it up, obviously done for some fun at the time but now coming back to bite him.

Yet Andy Considine does it and he’s a national hero.


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jacomo
15-01-2024, 07:27 AM
There's a pic of him in some lingerie camping it up, obviously done for some fun at the time but now coming back to bite him.


I think the Sun posted a selfie he took in a dress.

Be very proud of yourselves people.

JohnM1875
15-01-2024, 07:32 AM
Toure just uploaded a photo of Boyle with the 🐐 🤝 emojis

Looking more like a done deal by the day. A young rapid striker who can play on either wing. Sounds exciting but we know by now that doesn’t mean too much.

GloryGlory
15-01-2024, 07:38 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/arsenal-and-leeds-united-are-battling-it-out-for-serie-a-defender/ar-AA1mXSpr?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=2840fb1a24e7486e8cda01fb9458ac0c&ei=38

:rolleyes:

JohnM1875
15-01-2024, 07:40 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/arsenal-and-leeds-united-are-battling-it-out-for-serie-a-defender/ar-AA1mXSpr?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=2840fb1a24e7486e8cda01fb9458ac0c&ei=38

:rolleyes:

I’m convinced Verona are just going to let his contract run down. About the 17th teams apparently interested in signing Doig.

bingo70
15-01-2024, 07:42 AM
I think the Sun posted a selfie he took in a dress.

Be very proud of yourselves people.

What did we, as the people do to be proud of?

FWIW it’s only an issue if people make it an issue, I couldn’t care less and I’ve not heard anybody who does care.

Good luck to the boy if he does that all the time, hope he’s happy.

bingo70
15-01-2024, 07:45 AM
Looking more like a done deal by the day. A young rapid striker who can play on either wing. Sounds exciting but we know by now that doesn’t mean too much.

Could he have been across at the training camp or has his club had games he’s been involved in? Not sure how long the flight is from Adelaide to Dubai?

I don’t think he’s that rapid by the way, he’s quick but I read an interview saying he doesn’t possess the explosive pace his brother does, but he’s got other attributes.

JohnM1875
15-01-2024, 07:48 AM
Could he have been across at the training camp or has his club had games he’s been involved in? Not sure how long the flight is from Adelaide to Dubai?

I don’t think he’s that rapid by the way, he’s quick but I read an interview saying he doesn’t possess the explosive pace his brother does, but he’s got other attributes.

Ah I see! Maybe getting the rapid thing mixed up with his brother then, cheers for that 👍

CapitalGreen
15-01-2024, 07:48 AM
Could he have been across at the training camp or has his club had games he’s been involved in? Not sure how long the flight is from Adelaide to Dubai?

I don’t think he’s that rapid by the way, he’s quick but I read an interview saying he doesn’t possess the explosive pace his brother does, but he’s got other attributes.

He’s been injured I believe.

GloryGlory
15-01-2024, 07:55 AM
I’m convinced Verona are just going to let his contract run down. About the 17th teams apparently interested in signing Doig.

I almost think that myself but they are skint and need to sell players, so they can't stand in Doig's way forever. Better to get what they can now than accept a cut price fee in a year or so.

Unseen work
15-01-2024, 07:58 AM
Could he have been across at the training camp or has his club had games he’s been involved in? Not sure how long the flight is from Adelaide to Dubai?

I don’t think he’s that rapid by the way, he’s quick but I read an interview saying he doesn’t possess the explosive pace his brother does, but he’s got other attributes.

No idea what his brothers like, but from what I’ve seen in his clips I’d certainly describe him as explosive and rapid!

To me his style of play looks so similar to Youan it’s actually weird

bingo70
15-01-2024, 07:59 AM
No idea what his brothers like, but from what I’ve seen in his clips I’d certainly describe him as explosive and rapid!

To me his style of play looks so similar to Youan it’s actually weird

That sounds exciting then, do you have those clips? I’ll try and find the article I was on about.

Mcbizz1998
15-01-2024, 08:02 AM
Feel free to repeat tabloid slurs if you must… :rolleyes:

In what way, even by today’s lunatic standards, is drag queen a slur?

Unseen work
15-01-2024, 08:11 AM
That sounds exciting then, do you have those clips? I’ll try and find the article I was on about.

They’re on his social media;

Instagram - _musatoure_
TikTok - musa2re69

The longer clips are in his tik tok

brog
15-01-2024, 08:18 AM
St Johnstone - 3 in
Ross County - 2 in
Hearts - 1 in
Killie - 1 in
St Mirren - 2 in
Livi - 2 in
Dundee - 1 in
Rangers - 1 in

Been plenty incomings this window.

The 4 signings by the top 7 clubs are all on loan. You know, the kind of signing that many posters on here moan about.

Mainstandman
15-01-2024, 08:30 AM
normally takes a 100 pages on here before we sign someone so getting closer!. I'd really love someone with drive to come in, its all a bit easy time at the moment

McD
15-01-2024, 08:39 AM
As I said earlier, it's not my job to research players. I've got another job which I'm qualified to do.

Maybe some people on here spend their time researching players then contact Hibs to go and have a look at them. I don't.

As with some other posters I have little faith in what's going on at Hibs just now. I'll still support Hibs by going along to watch them in the hope things will get better.



Is it your job to slate players before they’ve even signed?

JohnM1875
15-01-2024, 08:44 AM
Toure just uploaded a photo of Boyle with the 🐐 🤝 emojis

He’s also now following Megwa too, in addition to Whittaker and Boyle.

See Boyle replied with ‘😉❤️’

HFC93
15-01-2024, 08:48 AM
Do we not have a Brazilian drag queen and a 20 year old from Leeds training with us? Sounds Ike it's going well to me... Trust the process.

I see that the Sun article has exposed the homophobes in our support. Sad that it's even relevant.

JammyDoidger
15-01-2024, 09:01 AM
See Boyle replied with ‘😉❤️’

Maybe Boyle is away to Adelaide..

JohnM1875
15-01-2024, 09:02 AM
Maybe Boyle is away to Adelaide..

Straight swap, no fee involved

brog
15-01-2024, 09:10 AM
The 4 signings by the top 7 clubs are all on loan. You know, the kind of signing that many posters on here moan about.

Actually I just noticed that St M have signed a free transfer Ugandan called Elvis! Where were we? Sack our D of F!:wink:

Leitherhibs
15-01-2024, 09:16 AM
Actually I just noticed that St M have signed a free transfer Ugandan called Elvis! Where were we? Sack our D of F!:wink:


A little less conversation, and a little more action from our recruitment dept and we could have got him.

scuttle
15-01-2024, 09:25 AM
A little less conversation, and a little more action from our recruitment dept and we could have got him.

Don't be cruel

GreenCastle
15-01-2024, 09:37 AM
Newell is one of our best players and one of the best midfielders outside the ugly twins

I will stand by that I don’t think Newell suits a 4-4-2.

Newell in a balanced 3 fine but passing is Newell best attribute. Tackling and scoring / assisting goals he could improve.

yerauldda
15-01-2024, 09:39 AM
Toure is following Hibs on instagram now, too.

DanishJohn
15-01-2024, 09:43 AM
With the clock ticking down
Its Now or Never

GreenCastle
15-01-2024, 09:45 AM
Toure is following Hibs on instagram now, too.

Is Toure still injured with a quad issue?

Seems to have had a few quad issues (probably due to his speed).

Shrekko
15-01-2024, 09:49 AM
I will stand by that I don’t think Newell suits a 4-4-2.

Newell in a balanced 3 fine but passing is Newell best attribute. Tackling and scoring / assisting goals he could improve.

Must be a lot of other SPFL players needing to improve their tackling and assists then according to the 2023 stats.

ancient hibee
15-01-2024, 09:53 AM
Don't be cruel

He was always on our mind but I’m not all shook up about it.

MikeyS
15-01-2024, 10:21 AM
Must be a lot of other SPFL players needing to improve their tackling and assists then according to the 2023 stats.

There absolutely is but I'm not sure thats relevant to what is a very fair point by the poster you are replying to. Joe Newell is our best midfielder, possibly all round player, but we aren't getting enough from him in this formation. If we persist with 442, it's fair to suggest the Newell also needs replaced.

Forza Fred
15-01-2024, 10:23 AM
Is Toure still injured with a quad issue?

Seems to have had a few quad issues (probably due to his speed).

He’s been out injured since 10 December.

I follow the A League closely, but haven’t seen enough of Musa to offer an opinion.

What I can say, is that he has started 0 games for Adelaide in the A league, with his 7 appearances all being off the bench.

In fact he’s played for a total of 165 minutes..and scored 1 goal.

None of that means he isn’t going to be a good signing, just that there hasn’t been much on the telly to judge him on.

Obviously Monte sees something special in him, so fingers crossed if he comes.

Dmas
15-01-2024, 10:30 AM
There absolutely is but I'm not sure thats relevant to what is a very fair point by the poster you are replying to. Joe Newell is our best midfielder, possibly all round player, but we aren't getting enough from him in this formation. If we persist with 442, it's fair to suggest the Newell also needs replaced.

The bar isn’t set very high to be our best midfielder, I don’t think anyone in the squad has justified any irreplaceable status, there is more players needing replaced before Joe Newell certainly but he’s been involved in a lot of terrible midfield performances over the years no matter the system.

04Sauzee
15-01-2024, 10:32 AM
Hibs boss Nick Montgomery has made his decision over trialist Adryan.

Sky Sports report that the Easter Road club will NOT be offering a contract after he joined the club's training camp in Dubai.

Paulie Walnuts
15-01-2024, 10:32 AM
There absolutely is but I'm not sure thats relevant to what is a very fair point by the poster you are replying to. Joe Newell is our best midfielder, possibly all round player, but we aren't getting enough from him in this formation. If we persist with 442, it's fair to suggest the Newell also needs replaced.

Agree.

I like Newell, I think he’s a pretty good player. I don’t think he’s irreplaceable and I don’t think he’s suited to this formation. That being said, I don’t think there’s many that are suited to it. I would suggest that Newell does a better job at ‘getting by’ in this formation though so there’s many more pressing issues imo.

JohnM1875
15-01-2024, 10:35 AM
Hibs boss Nick Montgomery has made his decision over trialist Adryan.

Sky Sports report that the Easter Road club will NOT be offering a contract after he joined the club's training camp in Dubai.

No shock there. Still, no harm in giving him a trial

Shrekko
15-01-2024, 10:40 AM
There absolutely is but I'm not sure thats relevant to what is a very fair point by the poster you are replying to. Joe Newell is our best midfielder, possibly all round player, but we aren't getting enough from him in this formation. If we persist with 442, it's fair to suggest the Newell also needs replaced.

Of course it's 'relevant' to point out that in the calendar year that Newell was amongst the top ranked in assists and tackles in the whole league - 2 of his apparent weaknesses.

Just because the system doesn't get the very best out of him doesn't mean he needs replaced. Thinking we can easily get somebody better in is fantasyland.

It's a recurring theme on here that people suggest that because our team or midfield has under-performed that we need to get shot of our best performer. Regardless of anything, it's bizarre. First port of call for improvement should always be replacing our poorest performers. If we can get to the stage where Joe's position is under threat we'll be doing extremely well.

Callum_62
15-01-2024, 10:45 AM
Hibs boss Nick Montgomery has made his decision over trialist Adryan.

Sky Sports report that the Easter Road club will NOT be offering a contract after he joined the club's training camp in Dubai.Boooo.

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Bostonhibby
15-01-2024, 10:51 AM
Actually I just noticed that St M have signed a free transfer Ugandan called Elvis! Where were we? Sack our D of F!:wink:Not interested in that sort of arrangement. I want an Elvis impersonator, get it done right now Hibs, preferably one who can play anywhere on the pitch.

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Unseen work
15-01-2024, 10:57 AM
Hibs boss Nick Montgomery has made his decision over trialist Adryan.

Sky Sports report that the Easter Road club will NOT be offering a contract after he joined the club's training camp in Dubai.

Absolutely gutted.

No idea if he’s any good.

But the idea of a Brazilian attacker who is full of skill or that will sack a game off so he can go to the casino just sounded brilliant. Absolute blockbuster stuff.

Unseen work
15-01-2024, 11:00 AM
Speaking on Monday, he said: “We are working hard to try and find the right players, I think it’s difficult to put any number on it, but what we do know is that we are light in a couple of areas.

“I am hoping that we will see a more energetic team that will have more strength in depth and players that can come off the bench and make an impact, so that’s what I am hoping we will have for the second part of the season.”

Smartie
15-01-2024, 11:00 AM
I will stand by that I don’t think Newell suits a 4-4-2.

Newell in a balanced 3 fine but passing is Newell best attribute. Tackling and scoring / assisting goals he could improve.

I don't think he suits it either, but of our current midfielders he's the one who suits it best - by a country mile.

Unseen work
15-01-2024, 11:01 AM
@liambryce_

Nick Montgomery says Hibs won't be advancing interest in trialist Adryan.

No decision taken yet on Kris Moore, Kanayo Megwa has impressed in Dubai and talks ongoing over whether he stays/returns to loan at Airdrie.

More on @HibsObserver_ this afternoon.

04Sauzee
15-01-2024, 11:08 AM
Henderson scored in a good win for Oostende yesterday. Think he's been playing well there so there could be a chance we can get a fee for him if he won't be back at Hibs.

JohnM1875
15-01-2024, 11:10 AM
Montgomery update;

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/1746865481900871810

Sounds like we might keep Megwa and the Leeds boy might return to Leeds, or I'm just reading too much into it

JohnM1875
15-01-2024, 11:11 AM
Henderson scored in a good win for Oostende yesterday. Think he's been playing well there so there could be a chance we can get a fee for him if he won't be back at Hibs.

Think they have an option to buy, don't they?

Ozyhibby
15-01-2024, 11:13 AM
Speaking on Monday, he said: “We are working hard to try and find the right players, I think it’s difficult to put any number on it, but what we do know is that we are light in a couple of areas.

“I am hoping that we will see a more energetic team that will have more strength in depth and players that can come off the bench and make an impact, so that’s what I am hoping we will have for the second part of the season.”

Talk is cheap Monty.


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Hibernian Verse
15-01-2024, 11:14 AM
Montgomery update;

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/1746865481900871810

Sounds like we might keep Megwa and the Leeds boy might return to Leeds, or I'm just reading too much into it

Agree. Two ways to look at it for the Leeds lad;

1) Hibs are preferring to develop their own talent and it was a toss up between the pair

Or

2) He's not as good as a lad that's been playing for Airdrie. If it's the latter then that'll be a kick in the baws for him.

GreenCastle
15-01-2024, 11:16 AM
He’s been out injured since 10 December.

I follow the A League closely, but haven’t seen enough of Musa to offer an opinion.

What I can say, is that he has started 0 games for Adelaide in the A league, with his 7 appearances all being off the bench.

In fact he’s played for a total of 165 minutes..and scored 1 goal.

None of that means he isn’t going to be a good signing, just that there hasn’t been much on the telly to judge him on.

Obviously Monte sees something special in him, so fingers crossed if he comes.

Toure is a right footed player - reminds me of Youan the way he runs with the ball.

He's built pretty strong but as you say has't played much. He usually plays right or left but has played through the middle also so I'm wondering if Monty is thinking centre forward with the speed?

04Sauzee
15-01-2024, 11:20 AM
Think they have an option to buy, don't they?

Not sure but he's definitely in the shop window.

04Sauzee
15-01-2024, 11:27 AM
Celtic close to signing another winger

Rapid Vienna winger Nicolas Kuhn is undergoing a medical ahead of his £3m move to Celtic

flash
15-01-2024, 11:32 AM
Talk is cheap Monty.


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Astute observation.

IanM
15-01-2024, 11:35 AM
Montgomery update;

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/1746865481900871810

Sounds like we might keep Megwa and the Leeds boy might return to Leeds, or I'm just reading too much into it

Good update - hopefully the board back the players he’s wanting. Can always stretch the budget given we’ve had to bring an unfit Brazilian in just to make the numbers for an 11 a side

Col2
15-01-2024, 11:35 AM
Montgomery update;

https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/1746865481900871810

Sounds like we might keep Megwa and the Leeds boy might return to Leeds, or I'm just reading too much into it

Thanks for sharing. All very low key. Leeds boy might or might not be signing, Brazilian won’t be and we hope to get 1 or 2 in. This place will go into meltdown if we lose or even struggle in the cup and lose next two league games.

Callum_62
15-01-2024, 11:43 AM
Thanks for sharing. All very low key. Leeds boy might or might not be signing, Brazilian won’t be and we hope to get 1 or 2 in. This place will go into meltdown if we lose or even struggle in the cup and lose next two league games.This place is in a near perpetual state of meltdown regardless [emoji1]

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NGoloGrantie
15-01-2024, 11:47 AM
Celtic close to signing another winger

Rapid Vienna winger Nicolas Kuhn is undergoing a medical ahead of his £3m move to Celtic

Surely they will be looking to offload, tilio, Yang or Forrest on a potential loan. That’s the 6th winger they have now I believe.


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worcesterhibby
15-01-2024, 11:51 AM
This place is in a near perpetual state of meltdown regardless [emoji1]

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This. Hibs have the 5th biggest budget in the league and if we win our games in hand we are in 5th in the league. We are neither under- achieving nor are are we over-achieving. We will start to come 4th or 3rd more often, when we start having the 3rd of 4th biggest budget. It will be "on average" though.. there will be years when even with the 3rd biggest budget we come 5th. Unless the increase in our budget is very, very substantial.

JimBHibees
15-01-2024, 11:54 AM
Surely they will be looking to offload, tilio, Yang or Forrest on a potential loan. That’s the 6th winger they have now I believe.


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Wonder if Tilio will head here given his previous with Monty. No idea if he is any good whatsoever difficult to tell on the 10 mins or so against us in last league game

Donegal Hibby
15-01-2024, 11:58 AM
This place is in a near perpetual state of meltdown regardless [emoji1]

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If the forfar game is called off due to snow would this cause another meltdown?

Callum_62
15-01-2024, 12:02 PM
Wonder if Tilio will head here given his previous with Monty. No idea if he is any good whatsoever difficult to tell on the 10 mins or so against us in last league gameWhat's the history between Monty and Tilio?

I don't think Monty has managed him?

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ChilliEater
15-01-2024, 12:14 PM
What's the history between Monty and Tilio?

I don't think Monty has managed him?

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I think a bit of confusion between former A League forward Marco Tilio and former A League forward Marco Tulio. Tilio is at Celtc, Tulio played under Monty at CCM.

erin go bragh
15-01-2024, 12:21 PM
Agree. Two ways to look at it for the Leeds lad;

1) Hibs are preferring to develop their own talent and it was a toss up between the pair

Or

2) He's not as good as a lad that's been playing for Airdrie. If it's the latter then that'll be a kick in the baws for him.
But if it is no 2. Thats some confidence boost for our player and Airdrie are doing no too bad in the championship.

Ozyhibby
15-01-2024, 12:44 PM
Astute observation.

Just pointing out that we have had quite a bit of talk from him but zero improvement in the team. It’s time to show not tell.


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JimBHibees
15-01-2024, 12:56 PM
I think a bit of confusion between former A League forward Marco Tilio and former A League forward Marco Tulio. Tilio is at Celtc, Tulio played under Monty at CCM.

My bad thought they were the same :greengrin

Nicho87
15-01-2024, 01:05 PM
I’d take Mikey Johnson

Forrest or both

Paulie Walnuts
15-01-2024, 01:07 PM
I’d take Mikey Johnson

Forrest or both

Wouldn’t be in a rush to sign any wingers. Our system doesn’t suit them. Money would be better spent elsewhere.

badabing67
15-01-2024, 01:13 PM
If the forfar game is called off due to snow would this cause another meltdown?

your back then

Hibs4185
15-01-2024, 01:17 PM
He was always on our mind but I’m not all shook up about it.

Just hope we’re not caught in a trap with this signing

GreenGray
15-01-2024, 01:28 PM
Purely personal opinion

The squad NM has inherited is not well suited to 4-4-2

If that's what we are stuck with as the one sole tactic for the season, then he needs an all-rounder midfielder, with experience, ready to start, to accompany Newell (as I like Jeggo, and Levitt could be a 10, but those boys ONLY suit a three man midfield and are no use in a 4-4-2 formation).

Similarly, there is pressure on the central defenders in a 442, and we need someone there, who is a Findlay-type, ready to start and be reasonable in SPFL standard.

If NM doesn't;t get these signings, then he needs to change from 442 (imo) and he'll be entitled to ask questions of the board, as he's clearly a 442 man.

If that is the case (I don't disagree) it makes you wonder why we appointed a manager who has said from the outset that this is how he plays and he won't change. Particularly at the end of a summer transfer window and months away from a January one where it appears the budget is limited.

eastmainsmsh
15-01-2024, 01:40 PM
Seems like we are waiting on BF investment getting go ahead first before signing anyone ?

Kato
15-01-2024, 01:44 PM
Seems like we are waiting on BF investment getting go ahead first before signing anyone ?So it'll get the go ahead on the 31st.

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The Modfather
15-01-2024, 01:50 PM
Seems like we are waiting on BF investment getting go ahead first before signing anyone ?

I hope we’re not waiting on that entirely. We need bodies now to salvage the season and give Montgomery half a chance. A happy medium would be to use the Melkerson money for a quality spine of the team on loan (CB, midfielder & partner for Vente). We wouldn’t be tying any budget up long term if we’re hoping to shop in a different market come the summer window. How much time will we have to actually spend the Foley money this window and get those deals over the line.

HUTCHYHIBBY
15-01-2024, 01:57 PM
Actually I just noticed that St M have signed a free transfer Ugandan called Elvis! Where were we? Sack our D of F!:wink:

I believe that we were down the chip shop making discreet inquiries.

Hibbyradge
15-01-2024, 01:58 PM
I believe that we were down the chip shop making discreet inquiries.

He didn't want to go to Chelsea.

HoboHarry
15-01-2024, 02:02 PM
I believe that we were down the chip shop making discreet inquiries.

Don't come the cowboy with me sonny Jim....

Chorley Hibee
15-01-2024, 02:02 PM
Not interested in that sort of arrangement. I want an Elvis impersonator, get it done right now Hibs, preferably one who can play anywhere on the pitch.

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Hibs players and Elvis impersonators rarely work out.

Bostonhibby
15-01-2024, 02:04 PM
Hibs players and Elvis impersonators rarely work out.[emoji23]
How about someone impersonating Hibs players then?

I'd settle for a Pat Stanton one just now?

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The Captain....
15-01-2024, 02:13 PM
Been told that the left sided attacker we are after is definitely Mathew Cudjoe from Dundee Utd.Seen him a few times and wasn't particularly impressed. I don't think he'd improve us, neither is that position a priority imo.

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Wilson
15-01-2024, 02:24 PM
Seen him a few times and wasn't particularly impressed. I don't think he'd improve us, neither is that position a priority imo.

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He is only 20? I think Monty will be looking to improve him, at that age, as much as have him improve us.

I haven't seen much of him but a Jim Spence article in the courier talked of close control, ability to ghost past markers, and always showing for the ball.

If any of that is true it sounds like something to work with!

Lago
15-01-2024, 03:00 PM
If the forfar game is called off due to snow would this cause another meltdown?
Welcome back

overdrive
15-01-2024, 03:03 PM
In Non-Hibs news, David Wotherspoon has signed for Dundee United

GloryGlory
15-01-2024, 03:43 PM
Doig to Marseille OFF!

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-31828434

Looks like Marseille have called Verona's bluff and moved on to another target left back:

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1746822278271381685

Sorry above is an outgoing, this is the incoming full back:

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1746937356794449994

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1746949552412700992

GreenNWhiteArmy
15-01-2024, 03:45 PM
Doig to Marseille OFF!

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-31828434

Posturing no doubt. I see Marseille are selling a LB so will be in the market. We'll see if either budge. Either way I'd imagine Doig will be away this month

worcesterhibby
15-01-2024, 03:51 PM
Jim Spence article in the courier talked of close control, ability to ghost past markers, and always showing for the ball.



We'll soon knock that out of him ! :greengrin:greengrin:faf:

flash
15-01-2024, 03:58 PM
Doig to Marseille OFF!

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-31828434

Looks like Marseille have called Verona's bluff and moved on to another target left back:

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1746822278271381685

That guy is leaving Marseille.

Lago
15-01-2024, 04:01 PM
Posturing no doubt. I see Marseille are selling a LB so will be in the market. We'll see if either budge. Either way I'd imagine Doig will be away this month
Come June we'll be talking about Josh latest pending move to, well you name ir:greengrin

The Captain....
15-01-2024, 04:01 PM
He is only 20? I think Monty will be looking to improve him, at that age, as much as have him improve us.

I haven't seen much of him but a Jim Spence article in the courier talked of close control, ability to ghost past markers, and always showing for the ball.

If any of that is true it sounds like something to work with!I like Jim Spence generally and tbf he's seen Cudjoe more than I have but I wouldn't agree with his description at all. He gave the ball away far too easily with careless first touches..wasn't too impressed by his decision making either. As you say he's still only 20 tho so if the manager's seen something in him that he can work on then eventually we might get a decent player. I don't think he'd improve us in the here and now either ability wise or positionally which is what we desperately need imo.

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StarMan10
15-01-2024, 04:22 PM
Doig to Marseille OFF!

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-31828434

Looks like Marseille have called Verona's bluff and moved on to another target left back:

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1746822278271381685

Without knowing the situation fully, it does seem like Verona have been fannying Josh about a fair bit. Believe there was 2 moves in the Summer that fell through and now another attractive move to Marseille collapsing here. Canny be doing the lad’s head any good.

Wilson
15-01-2024, 04:29 PM
I like Jim Spence generally and tbf he's seen Cudjoe more than I have but I wouldn't agree with his description at all. He gave the ball away far too easily with careless first touches..wasn't too impressed by his decision making either. As you say he's still only 20 tho so if the manager's seen something in him that he can work on then eventually we might get a decent player. I don't think he'd improve us in the here and now either ability wise or positionally which is what we desperately need imo.

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Probably turns up Jim Spence on a good day and your version on average. Get the Jim Spence version consistently, cue Monty, and you have a good player. As you say though we need someone for right now and not another prospect.

Although, with Cudjoe's contract being up in the summer, we may be in for him in any case.

GloryGlory
15-01-2024, 04:31 PM
Saying another club has offered more money.

Apparently Marseille thought they had agreed a deal for 5 million Euros on Friday, then Sassuolo offered 6 million on Friday night. Doig wanted to go to Marseille and had agreed personal terms. Remains to be seen but I doubt he would want to go to Sassuolo, that would be pretty much a sideways move - maybe Torino will come back in?

Hibbyradge
15-01-2024, 04:39 PM
Come June we'll be talking about Josh latest pending move to, well you name ir:greengrin

Same as McGinn.

04Sauzee
15-01-2024, 04:51 PM
Motherwell reportedly in talks with Andy Halliday

Hibrandenburg
15-01-2024, 04:52 PM
Actually I just noticed that St M have signed a free transfer Ugandan called Elvis! Where were we? Sack our D of F!:wink:

We need to consider carefully before we sign anyone, only fools rush in.

stevie-bee
15-01-2024, 05:03 PM
We need to consider carefully before we sign anyone, only fools rush in.
Listening to mcinnes on open go about transfer, he said they should have target 6 month in advance

flash
15-01-2024, 05:08 PM
Motherwell reportedly in talks with Andy Halliday

Presumably because Calum Slattery is out for the season.

RIP
15-01-2024, 05:11 PM
Half way through January and no business done. Anyone would think things were going well.[emoji849]


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Most of the Hibbies I know believe that between posting losses and having too many players under contract / on loan, that we wouldn't be doing much business this month. It's the rejects window anyway so the chances of replacing a current sqaud member with somebody significantly better are slim.

The tactics that NM has us playing is mind-numbingly boring. The lack of a Plan B is terrifying.

Playing goal-scoring strikers as touchline-hugging wide men (Youan, Boyle) and central midfielders (Vente) feels to me like a man who is trying to fit round pegs into square holes to fit a rigid system rather than putting round pegs in round holes and building a formation around those guys.

BoltonHibee
15-01-2024, 05:12 PM
Listening to mcinnes on open go about transfer, he said they should have target 6 month in advance

At the very least, with minimum 2 lists


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Rumble de Thump
15-01-2024, 05:22 PM
Most of the Hibbies I know believe that between posting losses and having too many players under contract / on loan, that we wouldn't be doing much business this month. It's the rejects window anyway so the chances of replacing a current sqaud member with somebody significantly better are slim.

The tactics that NM ihas us playing is mind-numbingly boring. The lack of a Plan B is terrifying.

Playing goal-scoring strikers as touchline-gugging wide men (Youan, Boyle) and central midfielders (Vente) feels to me like a man who is trying to fit round pegs into square holes to fit a rigid system rather than putting round pegs in round holes and building a formation around those guys.

Boyle and Youan are wingers and Vente is a striker who drops deeper when we're out of possession. You might as well slag off the head coach for playing goalkeepers in goal.

flash
15-01-2024, 05:38 PM
Most of the Hibbies I know believe that between posting losses and having too many players under contract / on loan, that we wouldn't be doing much business this month. It's the rejects window anyway so the chances of replacing a current sqaud member with somebody significantly better are slim.

The tactics that NM ihas us playing is mind-numbingly boring. The lack of a Plan B is terrifying.

Playing goal-scoring strikers as touchline-gugging wide men (Youan, Boyle) and central midfielders (Vente) feels to me like a man who is trying to fit round pegs into square holes to fit a rigid system rather than putting round pegs in round holes and building a formation around those guys.

Boyle is a winger who sometimes plays up front through necessity.

Surely you know that?

andrew70
15-01-2024, 05:46 PM
Most of the Hibbies I know believe that between posting losses and having too many players under contract / on loan, that we wouldn't be doing much business this month. It's the rejects window anyway so the chances of replacing a current sqaud member with somebody significantly better are slim.

The tactics that NM ihas us playing is mind-numbingly boring. The lack of a Plan B is terrifying.

Playing goal-scoring strikers as touchline-gugging wide men (Youan, Boyle) and central midfielders (Vente) feels to me like a man who is trying to fit round pegs into square holes to fit a rigid system rather than putting round pegs in round holes and building a formation around those guys.

I dunno where to start with this but I’ll try.

Boyle and Youan are wingers, they play slightly inverted as the width comes from the full backs. Boyle has been shoehorned in the side for me up front but has scored v Livi.

Vente is an out and out striker who drops deep to link play in the absence of a second striker. A very clever player whose football intelligence is often overlooked.

We are a work in progress and will continue to improve. I often wonder if some on here have actually watched the games.

cabbageandribs1875
15-01-2024, 06:10 PM
hopefully Josh Doig finally gets a move soon so he can start getting his head straight again, especially after agreeing personal terms with Marseille only for that deal collapsing.

TrinityHFC
15-01-2024, 06:22 PM
I dunno where to start with this but I’ll try.

Boyle and Youan are wingers, they play slightly inverted as the width comes from the full backs. Boyle has been shoehorned in the side for me up front but has scored v Livi.

Vente is an out and out striker who drops deep to link play in the absence of a second striker. A very clever player whose football intelligence is often overlooked.

We are a work in progress and will continue to improve. I often wonder if some on here have actually watched the games.

The wingers aren’t slightly inverted. They are narrow and deep. It has clearly had an impact on our attacking play, as has playing Vente too deep.

Donegal Hibby
15-01-2024, 06:30 PM
Welcome back

Thanks Lago 👍.

Read earlier Monty saying if we sign Musa Toure he would be for next season though there's competition for him .

While January is a hard window to do business in hopefully we will take in a couple, possibly loans . I'm looking forward to seeing Cadden back playing for us along with JDH , Alf and Mckirdy . All of which to a degree will be like four new signings and make the squad stronger too .

HoboHarry
15-01-2024, 06:35 PM
Thanks Lago 👍.

Read earlier Monty saying if we sign Musa Toure he would be for next season though there's competition for him .

While January is a hard window to do business in hopefully we will take in a couple, possibly loans . I'm looking forward to seeing Cadden back playing for us along with JDH , Alf and Mckirdy . All of which to a degree will be like four new signings and make the squad stronger too .
Aye I hope yer month in .net jail was a lesson to you, behave yourself from now on ya radge.....:greengrin

Lago
15-01-2024, 06:39 PM
Most of the Hibbies I know believe that between posting losses and having too many players under contract / on loan, that we wouldn't be doing much business this month. It's the rejects window anyway so the chances of replacing a current sqaud member with somebody significantly better are slim.

The tactics that NM ihas us playing is mind-numbingly boring. The lack of a Plan B is terrifying.

Playing goal-scoring strikers as touchline-gugging wide men (Youan, Boyle) and central midfielders (Vente) feels to me like a man who is trying to fit round pegs into square holes to fit a rigid system rather than putting round pegs in round holes and building a formation around those guys.
I don't know much about football tactics, but I think you know even less.

Lago
15-01-2024, 06:42 PM
Aye I hope yer month in .net jail was a lesson to you, behave yourself from now on ya radge.....:greengrin
There are a few other who I would have in.net jail before Donegal to be honest.

Lago
15-01-2024, 06:43 PM
:aok:
Thanks Lago 👍.

Read earlier Monty saying if we sign Musa Toure he would be for next season though there's competition for him .

While January is a hard window to do business in hopefully we will take in a couple, possibly loans . I'm looking forward to seeing Cadden back playing for us along with JDH , Alf and Mckirdy . All of which to a degree will be like four new signings and make the squad stronger too .

04Sauzee
15-01-2024, 06:44 PM
Not sure on the sources. Certainly gone quiet recently.
https://i.ibb.co/J7HpsKv/Screenshot-2024-01-15-19-42-42-52-0b2fce7a16bf2b728d6ffa28c8d60efb.jpg (https://ibb.co/J7HpsKv)

https://i.ibb.co/HDTxvR8/Screenshot-2024-01-15-19-45-51-69-0b2fce7a16bf2b728d6ffa28c8d60efb.jpg (https://ibb.co/HDTxvR8)

HoboHarry
15-01-2024, 06:59 PM
There are a few other who I would have in.net jail before Donegal to be honest.

:agree: I've never used the ignore function for posters before but it's getting close with at least two now for the relentless repeating of the same negative message.

Ronniekirk
15-01-2024, 07:42 PM
I like Jim Spence generally and tbf he's seen Cudjoe more than I have but I wouldn't agree with his description at all. He gave the ball away far too easily with careless first touches..wasn't too impressed by his decision making either. As you say he's still only 20 tho so if the manager's seen something in him that he can work on then eventually we might get a decent player. I don't think he'd improve us in the here and now either ability wise or positionally which is what we desperately need imo.

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Jim Goodwin saying he has been out injured and now chomping at the bit to get back playing for United

GloryGlory
15-01-2024, 07:48 PM
Doig saga ongoing! Marseille raise offer but still less than Sassuolo offer.

https://twitter.com/AlfredoPedulla/status/1746973687184568589

JammyDoidger
15-01-2024, 07:54 PM
Anyone heard anything about Yan Dhanda turning the jambos down and coming to us?

04Sauzee
15-01-2024, 07:58 PM
Anyone heard anything about Yan Dhanda turning the jambos down and coming to us?

Seen 1 tweet that was very cryptic but couldn't find anything else.

Lago
15-01-2024, 08:14 PM
:agree: I've never used the ignore function for posters before but it's getting close with at least two now for the relentless repeating of the same negative message.
Yes it's relentless, sucks the joy out of you.

Paulie Walnuts
15-01-2024, 08:20 PM
All went very quiet on this Ecuadorian guy…

Unseen work
15-01-2024, 09:09 PM
The hilarious thing about the Dhanda rumour is how quick fans change their mind or make up excuses;

Hearts fans thought he was brilliant, Hibs fans weren’t fussed

Now he wants too much money and Hibs are paying over the odds for him, same as Levitt

Hibs fans now think he’s brilliant and hearts fans aren’t fussed.

You’ve just got to love it

Col2
15-01-2024, 09:23 PM
We'll soon knock that out of him ! :greengrin:greengrin:faf:

🤣🤣🤣👍

GreenCastle
15-01-2024, 09:46 PM
All went very quiet on this Ecuadorian guy…

Surely we never getting a 5.5 million pound player on loan.

We have been looking at free agents and the chances of getting this guy surely were slim.

Watched clips of him and he did look quality - exactly what we need but really don’t see it.

Ringothedog
15-01-2024, 09:53 PM
Surely we never getting a 5.5 million pound player on loan.

We have been looking at free agents and the chances of getting this guy surely were slim.

Watched clips of him and he did look quality - exactly what we need but really don’t see it.

He would be signing for Bournemouth, then put on loan to us,it is easier to get a work permit in Scotland than it is in The EPL. I guess that was the reasoning

RIP
15-01-2024, 10:32 PM
Boyle and Youan are wingers and Vente is a striker who drops deeper when we're out of possession.


Boyle is a winger who sometimes plays up front through necessity. Surely you know that?


Boyle and Youan are wingers, they play slightly inverted as the width comes from the full backs. Boyle has been shoehorned in the side for me up front but has scored v Livi. Vente is an out and out striker who drops deep to link play in the absence of a second striker.


I completely understand why, after 2 seasons, that you think the way you do. I see that as a the problem with Hibs in recent years and the way we have been managed under Ross, Maloney, Johnson and Montgomery. All three players are goal machines, played correctly. But managers and fans assume that players can be fitted into any system and they wil perform to their maximum efficiency.

At different age groups or with better managers, football is a really simple game. You stick your goalscorers in front of the goals, in the penalty box or running through on goals. At Easter Road recently or in Perth, I've watched all three players receive the ball ten yards into the opposition half, either centrally, or from our full backs. Their starting point is 40 yards from the opposition goalie, with ten opposition players to play through. Often, our 'midfielders' are ahead of them, rather than feeding balls to them in forward positions.

Youan for example was a striker growing up. He can head the ball and score with both feet. When he first signed for Hibs on loan, the Hibs website correctly referred to him as a striker, banging on about the goals in him. https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/player/%C3%A9lie-youan. Hibs managers and a few FIFA qualified fans would rather he played touchline tango with our full backs. Yet when we set him loose in the box and he is capable of scoring a hat-trick!

Vente came to us as a 'prolific striker'. 46 goals in two seasons. 3 so far for Hibs. He spends his time in green and white running about 30,40 yeards from goal instead of in the box. Only at Hibs!

Yes Boyle started as a winger. He's much more than that now. I would argue that his eye for goal is more ruthless than Dylan or Elie. So why not play him as a second striker more often. We simply don't have enough guys in the opposition box to get on the end of his crosses or cutbacks. Even playing him and Elie in the channels as an 8 and a 10 would be an improvement over a 7 and 11, but how few times we play the ball over the top.

Yes I know I saw my first game in 1961 so that makes me a dinosaur. But I was there at Tynecastle when we beat Hearts 7-0 with goals from our number 8, 9, 10 and 11 all within 20 yards from the goalposts and mainly centrally. A settled team where every forward including Edwards were played in their natural positions and as a result, knew instinctively where the others would be.

All three should be 'receiving the ball' within 25 yards of the opposition goalie IMHO

Nevi_SOL
15-01-2024, 10:33 PM
Musa Toure has signed for AC Ajaccio in france.

Nevi_SOL
15-01-2024, 10:37 PM
Musa Toure has signed for AC Ajaccio in france.

Apologies apparently it's his brother according to twitter

NGoloGrantie
15-01-2024, 10:38 PM
Musa Toure has signed for AC Ajaccio in france.

That’s one of his brothers that’s signed for them. Al Hassan Toure.


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tonyrougier123
16-01-2024, 01:19 AM
Where are folk seeing yan dhanda to hibs 🤷*♂️

Forza Fred
16-01-2024, 01:29 AM
My bad thought they were the same :greengrin

I don’t think Tillio would add much to our squad tbh.

His move to Celtic was a surprise to me, and one I was pretty sure wouldn’t work out.

He’s not crap by any means, but hasn’t done anything that flashes ‘come and get me’ above his head.

Rumours that Sydney Fc and Melbourne City looking to take him on loan…..but the money he’d be getting at Celtic could be a stumbling block.

tonyrougier123
16-01-2024, 01:34 AM
Forza your clued up on oz players,zinedine machach? Exactly type we need

Forza Fred
16-01-2024, 04:59 AM
Forza your clued up on oz players,zinedine machach? Exactly type we need

He's certainly impressed me, what I have seen of him with Victory this season......but he’d be on a good wicket with Melbourne Victory money wise, and I think there is zero chance of him moving anywhere just now.

NGoloGrantie
16-01-2024, 05:52 AM
Forza your clued up on oz players,zinedine machach? Exactly type we need

Is this a name you’ve heard we’re in for or just someone you think we should look at?


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Col2
16-01-2024, 07:23 AM
Where are folk seeing yan dhanda to hibs 🤷*♂️

Twitter rumours nothing in the media.

Brightside
16-01-2024, 07:37 AM
Dhanda chat comes from kickback. Someone claiming he’d been told by a Ross county player that he’d signed a pre for Hibs. Since been repeated by a hearts pod guy. I’ve only seen screen grabs. I’m not fussed about him either way. He doesnt strike me as the workhorse that Monty wants / needs. And Campbell stats for example are miles better this season.

I’d say it’s pretty certain we aren’t signing a midfielder until we get confirmation on the Bournemouth signing. There are plenty of good free agents now available so we don’t even need Brian to look hard to improve the squad.

Sioux
16-01-2024, 07:58 AM
Dhanda chat comes from kickback. Someone claiming he’d been told by a Ross county player that he’d signed a pre for Hibs. Since been repeated by a hearts pod guy. I’ve only seen screen grabs. I’m not fussed about him either way. He doesnt strike me as the workhorse that Monty wants / needs. And Campbell stats for example are miles better this season.

I’d say it’s pretty certain we aren’t signing a midfielder until we get confirmation on the Bournemouth signing. There are plenty of good free agents now available so we don’t even need Brian to look hard to improve the squad.

How many of "plenty of good free agents" are there? It's very unusual for contracts to end in December/January, as we know. If you mean players that have been without a club since the summer, they won't be anywhere near match ready.

JohnM1875
16-01-2024, 08:03 AM
So some of the chat over the road is Dhanda is wanting 6/7k a week and that’s why he’s not going to Hearts 🙄

bingo70
16-01-2024, 08:13 AM
Dhanda chat comes from kickback. Someone claiming he’d been told by a Ross county player that he’d signed a pre for Hibs. Since been repeated by a hearts pod guy. I’ve only seen screen grabs. I’m not fussed about him either way. He doesnt strike me as the workhorse that Monty wants / needs. And Campbell stats for example are miles better this season.

I’d say it’s pretty certain we aren’t signing a midfielder until we get confirmation on the Bournemouth signing. There are plenty of good free agents now available so we don’t even need Brian to look hard to improve the squad.

I’m not convinced it’s a work horse Monty needs/wants, he just wants good players that work hard, I personally don’t think that’s an unreasonable desire?!

As for Dhanda, I think he’s exactly the type of player we need, if he’s as good a player as we need I’m not sure as I haven’t seen enough of him, what I have seen, I have liked though.

We need someone to link midfield to attack and him playing as a number 10, feeding balls through to Venty and our wingers could be ideal. He can also play on the right but slightly inverted to use modern football lingo which works in our system well just now.

I’m not really interested in his Ross County stats and don’t think they’re too relevant to what we would see at Hibs (or Hearts if he joins them). They’re a defensive team that play most games without the ball.

I think he could be a good signing but not one I’d bet my mortgage on. He’s the type of position we really need though imo.

Since452
16-01-2024, 08:18 AM
Think Dhanda would be a poor signing and hope he doesn't come here. Not saying he's crap but that type of player is probably the last thing we need to add to the squad at the moment. We have enough attacking players at the club already. Probably too many under Montgomery's system. I'd rather just see Levitt play further forward. First thing i'd be looking at would be a central defender. The pairings of Fish/Hanlon/Rocky still doesn't work for me. Decent players in their own right but i never think we look comfortable at the back.

I still think the most we'll see is a couple of loans this window.

superfurryhibby
16-01-2024, 08:28 AM
Think Dhanda would be a poor signing and hope he doesn't come here. Not saying he's crap but that type of player is probably the last thing we need to add to the squad at the moment. We have enough attacking players at the club already. Probably too many under Montgomery's system. I'd rather just see Levitt play further forward. First thing i'd be looking at would be a central defender. The pairings of Fish/Hanlon/Rocky still doesn't work for me. Decent players in their own right but i never think we look comfortable at the back.

I still think the most we'll see is a couple of loans this window.

A central defender who can pass the ball. Last game, v Mothers. Hanlon's distribution was just so much better than anything Rocky can manage and a midfielder with energy and who likes to pass the ball forward rather than constantly take the safe option.

I agree, we have enough attackers in the squad.

GreenCastle
16-01-2024, 08:35 AM
Think Dhanda would be a poor signing and hope he doesn't come here. Not saying he's crap but that type of player is probably the last thing we need to add to the squad at the moment. We have enough attacking players at the club already. Probably too many under Montgomery's system. I'd rather just see Levitt play further forward. First thing i'd be looking at would be a central defender. The pairings of Fish/Hanlon/Rocky still doesn't work for me. Decent players in their own right but i never think we look comfortable at the back.

I still think the most we'll see is a couple of loans this window.

Dhanda reminds me of Mallan.

Good free kick - decent corners - scores long range shots -but a bit lightweight but on his day decent.

He can also score penalties...

Assume he would play off Vente as he's not a box to box midfielder for a 4-4-2.

Dmas
16-01-2024, 08:38 AM
Dhanda reminds me of Mallan.

Good free kick - decent corners - scores long range shots -but a bit lightweight but on his day decent.

He can also score penalties...

Assume he would play off Vente as he's not a box to box midfielder for a 4-4-2.

I like him as a player can’t for the life of me figure out where he fits into our system though

bingo70
16-01-2024, 08:51 AM
I like him as a player can’t for the life of me figure out where he fits into our system though

As one of our two front men playing off the main striker, most likely to be Vente.

Edinburgh Green
16-01-2024, 09:02 AM
I like him as a player can’t for the life of me figure out where he fits into our system though

He doesn't, that's why i'd be amazed if we were in for him

Since452
16-01-2024, 09:07 AM
Doig to Marseille OFF!

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-31828434

Looks like Marseille have called Verona's bluff and moved on to another target left back:

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1746822278271381685

Sorry above is an outgoing, this is the incoming full back:

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1746937356794449994

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1746949552412700992

Josh Doig is destined to never leave Verona. Every transfer window a deal is supposedly done and never happens.

blackpoolhibs
16-01-2024, 09:17 AM
Dhanda is decent enough, a bit of a maverick type capable of a piece of magic, dont we have enough of those types and perhaps need players who are more robust, more energy and able to get from box to box?

Unless we are getting rid of Boyle or Youan or even Tavarez i feel we dont need him, or his type.

Aldo
16-01-2024, 09:24 AM
I think we need someone who can drop, work hard and has a bit of pace about him. I’d play Rudi alongside Vente on Saturday and see if the laddie can allow Vente to further forward.

As for Dhanda he’s not that good to spend the rumoured 6/7 grand on. Id rather have Andy Halliday than him. 🫣

Springbank
16-01-2024, 09:30 AM
In a 442 we need Mark OHara or David Turnbull (to play next to Joe Newell) with wingers either side, more than we need dhanda

AugustaHibs
16-01-2024, 09:32 AM
🔵 Napoli have agreed on terms with Hellas Verona for Belgian forward Cyril Ngonge.

Understand fee is €18m fixed plus add-ons. Negotiations ongoing on player side and more details.


Not good news for us with Doig, they won’t be needing the money.

USA_Hibee
16-01-2024, 09:38 AM
🔵 Napoli have agreed on terms with Hellas Verona for Belgian forward Cyril Ngonge.

Understand fee is €18m fixed plus add-ons. Negotiations ongoing on player side and more details.


Not good news for us with Doig, they won’t be needing the money.

I don't mind this. Hopefully Josh continues to kick on and we may get a larger fee in summer.

One Day Soon
16-01-2024, 09:39 AM
I think they've written off 3rd this season anyway so I don't expect much by way of signings in this window. It seems bizarre to me that with the obvious shortcomings in both our first team and our squad we weren't ready to do business at the very beginning of the window. That way you get your players in early, get them bedded into the squad and have them ready to go in your first games back. As usual we seem slow, hesitant, uncertain and ill-prepared. The manager is once again left to tread water and mouth platitudes to fill the silence.

If we are waiting on big money backing to either buy or loan we are leaving it very late, more than half the window has already gone. Even in circumstances where we weren't going to see new investment into the club we should surely have had a strategy for what we wanted to do next in terms of players in and out? We appear to be in danger of pursuing neither option come close of window and if that ends up being the case our already weak squad is really going to struggle to sustain playing a system that the manager loves but which they are incapable of delivering.

And it's dull, eye bleedingly dull.

tonyrougier123
16-01-2024, 09:48 AM
Is this a name you’ve heard we’re in for or just someone you think we should look at?


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Just someone I think could do us a turn. Looks strong,good dribbler/finisher.

Gordy M
16-01-2024, 10:02 AM
I think they've written off 3rd this season anyway so I don't expect much by way of signings in this window. It seems bizarre to me that with the obvious shortcomings in both our first team and our squad we weren't ready to do business at the very beginning of the window. That way you get your players in early, get them bedded into the squad and have them ready to go in your first games back. As usual we seem slow, hesitant, uncertain and ill-prepared. The manager is once again left to tread water and mouth platitudes to fill the silence.

If we are waiting on big money backing to either buy or loan we are leaving it very late, more than half the window has already gone. Even in circumstances where we weren't going to see new investment into the club we should surely have had a strategy for what we wanted to do next in terms of players in and out? We appear to be in danger of pursuing neither option come close of window and if that ends up being the case our already weak squad is really going to struggle to sustain playing a system that the manager loves but which they are incapable of delivering.

And it's dull, eye bleedingly dull.

There is no way we have written off 3rd with half the season to go? Win our game in hand and we 8 points from Hearts with them still to play twice? Its not Man City we are chasing.....lot of football still to be played.

Hibernian Verse
16-01-2024, 10:05 AM
There is no way we have written off 3rd with half the season to go? Win our game in hand and we 8 points from Hearts with them still to play twice? Its not Man City we are chasing.....lot of football still to be played.

It's not Man City we are chasing, but it is Rangers we are playing in that game in hand so you can write that one off.

Paulie Walnuts
16-01-2024, 10:14 AM
There is no way we have written off 3rd with half the season to go? Win our game in hand and we 8 points from Hearts with them still to play twice? Its not Man City we are chasing.....lot of football still to be played.

It’s not Man City we’re chasing but we’re also not Man City doing the chasing.

Over the last 3 seasons 3rd place has been 57, 61 and 63 points. That gives us 18 games to get 32-38 points to match that. 5 of they games would be against the Old Firm. Thats never happening.

I think there’s a very real chance that we’ll have written off 3rd this season at board level and we’ll potentially see the Foley money in the summer.

Musselbound
16-01-2024, 10:15 AM
I don't mind this. Hopefully Josh continues to kick on and we may get a larger fee in summer.

It was reported that the fee Hibs were due to get from the Doig to Marseille deal was around 350k so I agree. It's not really worth worrying about it much at all tbh.

SickBoy32
16-01-2024, 10:18 AM
I think they've written off 3rd this season anyway so I don't expect much by way of signings in this window. It seems bizarre to me that with the obvious shortcomings in both our first team and our squad we weren't ready to do business at the very beginning of the window. That way you get your players in early, get them bedded into the squad and have them ready to go in your first games back. As usual we seem slow, hesitant, uncertain and ill-prepared. The manager is once again left to tread water and mouth platitudes to fill the silence.

If we are waiting on big money backing to either buy or loan we are leaving it very late, more than half the window has already gone. Even in circumstances where we weren't going to see new investment into the club we should surely have had a strategy for what we wanted to do next in terms of players in and out? We appear to be in danger of pursuing neither option come close of window and if that ends up being the case our already weak squad is really going to struggle to sustain playing a system that the manager loves but which they are incapable of delivering.

And it's dull, eye bleedingly dull.

The lack of leadership and strategy at the club has been hampering us for years, really disappointing.

SickBoy32
16-01-2024, 10:20 AM
It's not Man City we are chasing, but it is Rangers we are playing in that game in hand so you can write that one off.

Why are we just writing off a home game vs a poor *** side? Leave that mentality to the likes of St Johnstone.

No reason that we can't get a result in that fixture, even when we are pretty crap

AugustaHibs
16-01-2024, 10:27 AM
Why are we just writing off a home game vs a poor *** side? Leave that mentality to the likes of St Johnstone.

No reason that we can't get a result in that fixture, even when we are pretty crap

If they’re ’poor’ wtf does that make us?

SickBoy32
16-01-2024, 10:30 AM
If they’re ’poor’ wtf does that make us?

It's all relative, that's a poor Rangers side by their standards.

This is a poor Hibs side. We're obviously underdogs but not to the extent we should be writing the game off

Paulie Walnuts
16-01-2024, 10:33 AM
It's all relative, that's a poor Rangers side by their standards.

This is a poor Hibs side. We're obviously underdogs but not to the extent we should be writing the game off

It’s not really though. They’re on course for 87 points this season and that’s even allowing for Beale being here. Under Clement they’re in league winning form. They’ve also already won a trophy and progressed through the Europa League groups. That’s a better than average season for them.

Scotty Leither
16-01-2024, 10:41 AM
There is no way we have written off 3rd with half the season to go? Win our game in hand and we 8 points from Hearts with them still to play twice? Its not Man City we are chasing.....lot of football still to be played.

According to his last interview the manager is after 5th spot. The lowering of expectations has begun.

SickBoy32
16-01-2024, 10:43 AM
It’s not really though. They’re on course for 87 points this season and that’s even allowing for Beale being here. Under Clement they’re in league winning form. They’ve also already won a trophy and progressed through the Europa League groups. That’s a better than average season for them.

We've already got a point from Celtic (a better team) at ER this season, I'm not sure Rangers progressing past some mob from Cyprus is entirely relevant.

No reason for us to be hyping them up at all IMO

Paulie Walnuts
16-01-2024, 10:47 AM
We've already got a point from Celtic (a better team) at ER this season, I'm not sure Rangers progressing past some mob from Cyprus is entirely relevant.

No reason for us to be hyping them up at all IMO

They progressed through a group with Real Betis, Sparta Prague and some mob from Cyprus.

I don’t think it’s an impossibility that we could get something from the game. Being realistic though, it’s unlikely and it’s just silly to suggest they’re a poor side, whether that’s in general or by their standards, because they’re not.

B.H.F.C
16-01-2024, 10:59 AM
It's not Man City we are chasing, but it is Rangers we are playing in that game in hand so you can write that one off.

Hearts play the night before we play Rangers so by the time we go in to that game we’ll probably be further behind (they’re at home to Dundee). Game in hand is the Ross County postponement.

Hibernian Verse
16-01-2024, 11:05 AM
Why are we just writing off a home game vs a poor *** side? Leave that mentality to the likes of St Johnstone.

No reason that we can't get a result in that fixture, even when we are pretty crap

Sorry I'll leave my realism at the door when I log on here.

Hibernian Verse
16-01-2024, 11:06 AM
Hearts play the night before we play Rangers so by the time we go in to that game we’ll probably be further behind (they’re at home to Dundee). Game in hand is the Ross County postponement.

Good info, apologies.

GreenArmy1875
16-01-2024, 11:07 AM
For me Dhanda would be a good signing. He adds creativity to an area that we lack. Playing Josh Campbell off the front doesn't work for me. I don't think it will happen though as I think it's a rumour started by Hearts to give them something in their interview that he rejected Hibs etc etc

Hibiza
16-01-2024, 11:12 AM
Dhanda reminds me of Mallan.

Good free kick - decent corners - scores long range shots -but a bit lightweight but on his day decent.

He can also score penalties...

Assume he would play off Vente as he's not a box to box midfielder for a 4-4-2.0h No !!!

Hibiza
16-01-2024, 11:14 AM
The lack of leadership and strategy at the club has been hampering us for years, really disappointing.
Spot on .

Unseen work
16-01-2024, 11:22 AM
Just had a look at some videos of Dhanda, more or less what I remember that there was no brilliant through balls as such and more of a drop deep or gets space out wide and put in a fantastic cross. Does that crossing style suit us? I’m not sure, but I’m sure he has the ability to adapt and play a less direct style.

For his goals scored he’s got about 5 pens, direct from a corner, a goal keeper howler and then about 4 good finishes. If he signed for us I think we’d want/need more goals from open play, again I don’t doubt he has the ability to do it.

If he stayed higher up the pitch, he’s pop up in spaces that Levitt and Newell would be able to pick him out, something I don’t think any of our more attacking players are smart enough to do. The issue would be getting him in the box and staying high etc.

The below is a highlight reel and the second one his performance against hearts last month which, at least on the reel, looks very impressive

https://youtu.be/4xleN1aSJdQ?si=7WqDEzGPfVRA5Uzy

https://youtu.be/OkvJqG67MT8?si=xIgL3iZphNYJbgsz - hearts game

.Sean.
16-01-2024, 11:24 AM
It’s not Man City we’re chasing but we’re also not Man City doing the chasing.

Over the last 3 seasons 3rd place has been 57, 61 and 63 points. That gives us 18 games to get 32-38 points to match that. 5 of they games would be against the Old Firm. Thats never happening.

I think there’s a very real chance that we’ll have written off this season at board level and we’ll potentially see the Foley money in the summer.
I completely agree with you, we’re never getting to that level of points. Quite possibly the most depressing post I’ve read on here in a while, another bang average, write off, wasted season 🥱

Real Emerald
16-01-2024, 11:25 AM
I think they've written off 3rd this season anyway so I don't expect much by way of signings in this window. It seems bizarre to me that with the obvious shortcomings in both our first team and our squad we weren't ready to do business at the very beginning of the window. That way you get your players in early, get them bedded into the squad and have them ready to go in your first games back. As usual we seem slow, hesitant, uncertain and ill-prepared. The manager is once again left to tread water and mouth platitudes to fill the silence.

If we are waiting on big money backing to either buy or loan we are leaving it very late, more than half the window has already gone. Even in circumstances where we weren't going to see new investment into the club we should surely have had a strategy for what we wanted to do next in terms of players in and out? We appear to be in danger of pursuing neither option come close of window and if that ends up being the case our already weak squad is really going to struggle to sustain playing a system that the manager loves but which they are incapable of delivering.

And it's dull, eye bleedingly dull.

I agree with this. It seems utterly bizarre that we have a manager who is completely obsessed with playing a system that doesn’t suit the players we have and half way through a transfer window there is no signs of players coming in to address the situation.

It appears we don’t have anyone we’ve been tracking or it would already have been done. The problem may be funds or difficulties getting players who want to come who knows but I’m beginning to get alarm bells ringing about the manager. He seems to think we’re doing well, if that’s the case I have no confidence in him moving us forward.

Bridge hibs
16-01-2024, 11:33 AM
According to his last interview the manager is after 5th spot. The lowering of expectations has begun.

Did he say targeting or finishing in 5th place ?

Im targeting 15 stone in weight but expect to get to 13 stone after that, I must be lowering my expectations too

gegs70
16-01-2024, 11:33 AM
Seems like we are just there to buy young players. Give them game time then someone offers a decent fee we put a sell on clause in the contract and all good. Meanwhile the team are awful....

Heisenberg
16-01-2024, 11:35 AM
Seems like we are just there to buy young players. Give them game time then someone offers a decent fee we put a sell on clause in the contract and all good. Meanwhile the team are awful....

Doesn’t really add up with the business we did in the summer? Vente, Youan and Levitt for near on £2m and not one of them a young player we are looking to sell on.

bingo70
16-01-2024, 11:36 AM
I completely agree with you, we’re never getting to that level of points. Quite possibly the most depressing post I’ve read on here in a while, another bang average, write off, wasted season 🥱

Surely there’s a middle ground between finishing 3rd and writing off a wasted season though.

Finishing 4th or even 5th isn’t a disaster. One of the best away days I’ve had was at Villa park and we got that on the back of a 5th place finish. Finishing 4th under Lennon was one of the most enjoyable seasons I can remember.

FWIW I think hearts could have a collapse in the second half of the season, I don’t think it’s sustainable for them to be so reliant on Shankland all season for goals.

Alex Trager
16-01-2024, 11:43 AM
Surely there’s a middle ground between finishing 3rd and writing off a wasted season though.

Finishing 4th or even 5th isn’t a disaster. One of the best away days I’ve had was at Villa park and we got that on the back of a 5th place finish. Finishing 4th under Lennon was one of the most enjoyable seasons I can remember.

FWIW I think hearts could have a collapse in the second half of the season, I don’t think it’s sustainable for them to be so reliant on Shankland all season for goals.

It also doesn’t matter because when we win the cup, we’ll scoop the groups 🤠

Hibernian Verse
16-01-2024, 11:44 AM
Seems like we are just there to buy young players. Give them game time then someone offers a decent fee we put a sell on clause in the contract and all good. Meanwhile the team are awful....

Dhanda a 25 year old youth project?

Brightside
16-01-2024, 11:45 AM
According to his last interview the manager is after 5th spot. The lowering of expectations has begun.

eh? Where is that quote?

Col2
16-01-2024, 11:52 AM
The Dhanda negativity surprises me.

I have always rated him, superb control and movement and reminds me of McGeough in ability to pick up loose ball and drive forward.

He single handedly changed the 2-2 game v Ross country earlier this season when he came on in 2nd half. Took total control of midfield and was pinged passes around as county started to dominate.

Would be delighted to get him.

GreenCastle
16-01-2024, 12:20 PM
The Dhanda negativity surprises me.

I have always rated him, superb control and movement and reminds me of McGeough in ability to pick up loose ball and drive forward.

He single handedly changed the 2-2 game v Ross country earlier this season when he came on in 2nd half. Took total control of midfield and was pinged passes around as county started to dominate.

Would be delighted to get him.

Don't think it's negative - just fans doing some research and giving an opinion. No some said he's crap but Hibs fans have watched us enough to realise what we are missing.

I think he's one of these players who when firing is good but when he's not it's like playing a player down.

Hibs just need consistent performers who deliver more than they don't. Feels like we have enough up and down type players hence why we are mid table and come up short against a more organised / consistent team.

Paulie Walnuts
16-01-2024, 12:25 PM
Surely there’s a middle ground between finishing 3rd and writing off a wasted season though.

Finishing 4th or even 5th isn’t a disaster. One of the best away days I’ve had was at Villa park and we got that on the back of a 5th place finish. Finishing 4th under Lennon was one of the most enjoyable seasons I can remember.

FWIW I think hearts could have a collapse in the second half of the season, I don’t think it’s sustainable for them to be so reliant on Shankland all season for goals.

Sorry, just to be clear my post was in relation to 3rd place.
I thought I’d put that in at the end but I haven’t, I’ve edited it now.

We won’t have written off 4th or 5th. I do think there might be an acceptance though that if it’s not third then it’s not all that big a deal and we’ll keep our powder dry in terms of the Foley money for summer.

LeithMike
16-01-2024, 12:28 PM
Not really sure what we are doing as a team at the moment so hard to know the players we should be looking for.

From what I’ve seen this season it’s our midfield which is most in need of an overhaul (as has been the case for a number of years) and in a midfield two, I think it’s grit and determination and mobility we need. Somebody mentioned O’Hara and Turnbull and I think that is the type of player we need but is NM going to what ball-players continuing there.

I like Levitt but I think it’s one of him and Newell and somebody to do the hard graft.

Re Dhanda, I wonder if he’s be coming in as a wide player who is suited to coming in narrow to lend weight to the midfield. Seems like a decent player but we have quite a lot of technically gifted players but are somewhat lacking in endeavour and leadership. We need some players who are good without the ball as well as with it and who can drag us back into games we are struggling in.


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Paulie Walnuts
16-01-2024, 12:29 PM
Not really sure what we are doing as a team at the moment so hard to know the players we should be looking for.

From what I’ve seen this season it’s our midfield which is most in need of an overhaul (as has been the case for a number of years) and in a midfield two, I think it’s grit and determination and mobility we need. Somebody mentioned O’Hara and Turnbull and I think that is the type of player we need but is NM going to what ball-players continuing there.

I like Levitt but I think it’s one of him and Newell and somebody to do the hard graft.

Re Dhanda, I wonder if he’s be coming in as a wide player who is suited to coming in narrow to lend weight to the midfield. Seems like a decent player but we have quite a lot of technically gifted players but are somewhat lacking in endeavour and leadership. We need some players who are good without the ball as well as with it and who can drag us back into games we are struggling in.


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Levitt can’t play in a two imo. His lack of mobility is quite incredible.

Agree about Dhanda. If we’re sticking with 4-4-2, I think the aim will be to have guys out wide who aren’t traditional wingers as such. I said it elsewhere but I reckon we’ll be looking more for guys like Foden, Silva, Grealish (obviously at our level) more than we’ll be looking for Youan, Boyle type players. I actually think a Ewan Henderson type would be the ideal player for one of the wide roles in a 4-4-2. They’d just have to be better than him.

Smartie
16-01-2024, 12:51 PM
Levitt can’t play in a two imo. His lack of mobility is quite incredible.

Agree about Dhanda. If we’re sticking with 4-4-2, I think the aim will be to have guys out wide who aren’t traditional wingers as such. I said it elsewhere but I reckon we’ll be looking more for guys like Foden, Silva, Grealish (obviously at our level) more than we’ll be looking for Youan, Boyle type players. I actually think a Ewan Henderson type would be the ideal player for one of the wide roles in a 4-4-2. They’d just have to be better than him.

Jair has settled quite nicely into one of the wide roles.

Newell is probably passable in one of the central midfield roles but he needs a huge player in there with him if it's to work (no idea where you get someone like that).

I disagree about Henderson. He's another one of these "maybe a number 10?" types that you want to think has a specialist role somewhere but ultimately just isn't good enough.

Cadden might be ok on the right? He did quite well last season with Egan-Riley behind him. His defensive stuff isn't good enough to play FB but he's a good wingback so that RM role might be perfect for him (I rate Cadden btw).

I'm actually coming round to the opinion that to do justice to a 442 we might need 8 or 9 new outfield players.

No idea where and how Boyle, Levitt or Youan fit into it.

Our squad is basically an expensively assembled, bloated mess of players who aren't going to fit into the way the current manager wants to play and it's either going to take a lot of money or several transfer windows to sort it out, with very carefully managed expectations about what we're likely to be able to achieve on the park whilst this is done.

Some January sticking plasters might just about hold it together for a bit.

B.H.F.C
16-01-2024, 01:03 PM
Jair has settled quite nicely into one of the wide roles.

Newell is probably passable in one of the central midfield roles but he needs a huge player in there with him if it's to work (no idea where you get someone like that).

I disagree about Henderson. He's another one of these "maybe a number 10?" types that you want to think has a specialist role somewhere but ultimately just isn't good enough.

Cadden might be ok on the right? He did quite well last season with Egan-Riley behind him. His defensive stuff isn't good enough to play FB but he's a good wingback so that RM role might be perfect for him (I rate Cadden btw).

I'm actually coming round to the opinion that to do justice to a 442 we might need 8 or 9 new outfield players.

No idea where and how Boyle, Levitt or Youan fit into it.

Our squad is basically an expensively assembled, bloated mess of players who aren't going to fit into the way the current manager wants to play and it's either going to take a lot of money or several transfer windows to sort it out, with very carefully managed expectations about what we're likely to be able to achieve on the park whilst this is done.

Some January sticking plasters might just about hold it together for a bit.

There is plenty room for Boyle or Youan in the current system IMO.

Youan is up and down but that’s Youan. He’s still scored six goals under Montgomery and he only got nine in the whole of last season. Boyle shouldn’t be playing up front week in, week out but he’s more than capable of playing wide in a four. Some of his best football was under Ross playing in that position the season we finished third when we played with Doidge and Nisbet as a front two.

I see issues with the current set up but Youan or Boyle playing wide in it isn’t one for me.

ancient hibee
16-01-2024, 01:07 PM
There is plenty room for Boyle or Youan in the current system IMO.

Youan is up and down but that’s Youan. He’s still scored six goals under Montgomery and he only got nine in the whole of last season. Boyle shouldn’t be playing up front week in, week out but he’s more than capable of playing wide in a four. Some of his best football was under Ross playing in that position the season we finished third when we played with Doidge and Nisbet as a front two.

I see issues with the current set up but Youan or Boyle playing wide in it isn’t one for me.

For me there is one issue.

We are third highest scorers in the league. We are third worst for goals conceded. If there's one thing sure it's that we don't have to worry about attack strength.

gegs70
16-01-2024, 01:10 PM
Doesn’t really add up with the business we did in the summer? Vente, Youan and Levitt for near on £2m and not one of them a young player we are looking to sell on.


Kevin Nisbet joined us when he was 23 and left for £2m plus when he was around 26 years old ?

andrew70
16-01-2024, 01:10 PM
There is plenty room for Boyle or Youan in the current system IMO.

Youan is up and down but that’s Youan. He’s still scored six goals under Montgomery and he only got nine in the whole of last season. Boyle shouldn’t be playing up front week in, week out but he’s more than capable of playing wide in a four. Some of his best football was under Ross playing in that position the season we finished third when we played with Doidge and Nisbet as a front two.

I see issues with the current set up but Youan or Boyle playing wide in it isn’t one for me.

Whilst I agree with you on the whole Boyle was played as a winger under Ross, less tracking back. We played on the counter now we play possession based front foot football with everyone working hard.

We lack the necessary effort in the middle and if you play Youan and Boyle we quickly become a 424. I’d say we can only play one out wide. Boyle for me, lately, has been shoehorned into the team although he still scored away to Livi but he’s always on last man meaning Vente drops deep.

It’s one or the other for me in this setup. Youan is far more productive at the min so he plays imo. Obviously Boyle is away but I think that may mean we become more fluid than anything negative.

B.H.F.C
16-01-2024, 01:14 PM
For me there is one issue.

We are third highest scorers in the league. We are third worst for goals conceded. If there's one thing sure it's that we don't have to worry about attack strength.

Agree that should be absolute priority. We’re not exactly fluent in terms of attacking but if we were even just reasonably competent defensively, we’d be in a much stronger position. It’ll be absolutely scandalous if we don’t do something to improve that part of the team for the remainder of the season. Can’t say I’m that confident we will do much in the next fortnight.

Smartie
16-01-2024, 01:15 PM
For me there is one issue.

We are third highest scorers in the league. We are third worst for goals conceded. If there's one thing sure it's that we don't have to worry about attack strength.

I think it's a wee bit nuanced - we play quite open, which should help us in the attacking sense but also leads to us losing goals.

It's not as simple as us having good attackers and poor defenders and for us needing to sign better defensive players. I've also been concerned over maybe the past half dozen or so games that our attacking threat has blunted a bit.

I don't think we've done ourselves many favours by pissing about with the back line a lot. Hanlon and Fish were a robust enough pairing during the second half of last season, pick them every week and keep them together (as has been mentioned elsewhere, I think we benefit from Hanlon's ability on the ball). Hanlon has been hung out to dry by being dropped, brought back in, dropped, stuck on after 70 minutes etc. When he gets a bit of consistency, he plays better. Our inconsistency at CH spreads problems to other areas (Miller looking excellent some weeks and hopeless others). Monty might be forgiven for doing this while he gets to know the squad but I think that area in particular needs to settle down a bit now. I've said it a few times and realise I'm in a minority or 1 but I don't think our personnel at CH is anywhere near as bad as our defensive record suggests - can can do much better with what we already have.

ancient hibee
16-01-2024, 01:16 PM
Agree that should be absolute priority. We’re not exactly fluent in terms of attacking but if we were even just reasonably competent defensively, we’d be in a much stronger position. It’ll be absolutely scandalous if we don’t do something to improve that part of the team for the remainder of the season. Can’t say I’m that confident we will do much in the next fortnight.

I'm not either.

Spudster
16-01-2024, 01:48 PM
From what I’ve seen this season it’s our midfield which is most in need of an overhaul (as has been the case for a number of years) and in a midfield two, I think it’s grit and determination and mobility we need. Somebody mentioned O’Hara and Turnbull and I think that is the type of player we need but is NM going to what ball-players continuing there.


Mobility by signing Turnbull? Is this a joke?!

superfurryhibby
16-01-2024, 01:59 PM
Mobility by signing Turnbull? Is this a joke?!

Sometimes the key is getting the ball to do the work. No chance we are signing Turnbull though, much as I think he would be an excellent player for us.

EGL2000
16-01-2024, 02:47 PM
Kelleher to Celtic being rumoured. Great signing if true. Really needed to sort out that position with Joe hart being poor last couple seasons.

Stuart93
16-01-2024, 03:06 PM
Kelleher to Celtic being rumoured. Great signing if true. Really needed to sort out that position with Joe hart being poor last couple seasons.

I’d like if we signed seigrist

Unseen work
16-01-2024, 03:08 PM
Kelleher to Celtic being rumoured. Great signing if true. Really needed to sort out that position with Joe hart being poor last couple seasons.

Is he actually any good?

Doesn’t seem to have played a huge amount of games for a 25 year old - granted he is at Liverpool though!

HoboHarry
16-01-2024, 03:18 PM
Is he actually any good?

Doesn’t seem to have played a huge amount of games for a 25 year old - granted he is at Liverpool though!
He's an excellent keeper and I'll be amazed if he ends up at Celtic. He'll have plenty of higher paid options in England I'd imagine.

EGL2000
16-01-2024, 03:21 PM
Is he actually any good?

Doesn’t seem to have played a huge amount of games for a 25 year old - granted he is at Liverpool though!

Yeah very solid always does well when called upon by Liverpool.

Tyler Durden
16-01-2024, 03:28 PM
Whilst I agree with you on the whole Boyle was played as a winger under Ross, less tracking back. We played on the counter now we play possession based front foot football with everyone working hard.

We lack the necessary effort in the middle and if you play Youan and Boyle we quickly become a 424. I’d say we can only play one out wide. Boyle for me, lately, has been shoehorned into the team although he still scored away to Livi but he’s always on last man meaning Vente drops deep.

It’s one or the other for me in this setup. Youan is far more productive at the min so he plays imo. Obviously Boyle is away but I think that may mean we become more fluid than anything negative.

It would seem obvious to me that you could keep Boyle wide and high, push Newell to a narrow left midfield and form more of a central 3 with Jeggo and Levitt. Get Youan up front.

The Newell role would be pretty similar to how Jackson Irvine sometimes played left midfield under Jack Ross. It's flexible but more pragmatic and pretty much plays to all those players strengths.

Won't happen of course....

ancient hibee
16-01-2024, 03:28 PM
I think it's a wee bit nuanced - we play quite open, which should help us in the attacking sense but also leads to us losing goals.

It's not as simple as us having good attackers and poor defenders and for us needing to sign better defensive players. I've also been concerned over maybe the past half dozen or so games that our attacking threat has blunted a bit.

I don't think we've done ourselves many favours by pissing about with the back line a lot. Hanlon and Fish were a robust enough pairing during the second half of last season, pick them every week and keep them together (as has been mentioned elsewhere, I think we benefit from Hanlon's ability on the ball). Hanlon has been hung out to dry by being dropped, brought back in, dropped, stuck on after 70 minutes etc. When he gets a bit of consistency, he plays better. Our inconsistency at CH spreads problems to other areas (Miller looking excellent some weeks and hopeless others). Monty might be forgiven for doing this while he gets to know the squad but I think that area in particular needs to settle down a bit now. I've said it a few times and realise I'm in a minority or 1 but I don't think our personnel at CH is anywhere near as bad as our defensive record suggests - can can do much better with what we already have.

I think the number of goals we lose from crosses or being bullied off the ball does reflect badly on our central defence even though chopping and changing doesn’ help. As you would expect with Hanlon his
performance has deteriorated as he gets older. The second goal against Motherwell was an example-a dreadfully weak header from him to the one place he shouldn’t have put it-back into the middle of the area and then two Motherwell headers where we hardly contested.Perhaps our attacking threat has been affected because of the pressure of knowing that scoring a couple of goals is frequently not enough to win the game.

04Sauzee
16-01-2024, 03:30 PM
Cameron Carter-Vickers is of interest to a few EPL clubs according to reports.

SeanWilson
16-01-2024, 03:42 PM
Is he actually any good?

Doesn’t seem to have played a huge amount of games for a 25 year old - granted he is at Liverpool though!

He is alright.... done well when called upon last year... been shown up a bit when called upon this year. I certainly don't see him as a Liverpool 2nd goalie.

The Modfather
16-01-2024, 03:51 PM
It would seem obvious to me that you could keep Boyle wide and high, push Newell to a narrow left midfield and form more of a central 3 with Jeggo and Levitt. Get Youan up front.

The Newell role would be pretty similar to how Jackson Irvine sometimes played left midfield under Jack Ross. It's flexible but more pragmatic and pretty much plays to all those players strengths.

Won't happen of course....

A fair shout, but I think that only worked previously as we had Doig who was good enough and athletic enough to cover the left hand side on his own. I’m not sure Obita could do that.

andrew70
16-01-2024, 04:13 PM
It would seem obvious to me that you could keep Boyle wide and high, push Newell to a narrow left midfield and form more of a central 3 with Jeggo and Levitt. Get Youan up front.

The Newell role would be pretty similar to how Jackson Irvine sometimes played left midfield under Jack Ross. It's flexible but more pragmatic and pretty much plays to all those players strengths.

Won't happen of course....

Not for me… I like the 442 but need to stop shoe horning players in and have them earn their respective positions.

That will only come with more or at least more trusted personnel. We badly need a LCB and a CM or two. Also trusting Rudi as a second striker would be a great start.

Jeggo should be moved on asap, Levitt will come good imo. In fact I think this mini pre season will help him immensely. He’s terrific on the ball but struggles with the fitness required.

Youan up front is similar to Boyle playing there, it would nullify Vente. Pointless. Get Rudi up to next him, I know I am repeating myself but still.

Edit: You are also completely forgetting Jair who more than deserves his place and does exactly what is required in this set up, creates, scores and defends.

jacomo
16-01-2024, 04:16 PM
I think the number of goals we lose from crosses or being bullied off the ball does reflect badly on our central defence even though chopping and changing doesn’ help. As you would expect with Hanlon his
performance has deteriorated as he gets older. The second goal against Motherwell was an example-a dreadfully weak header from him to the one place he shouldn’t have put it-back into the middle of the area and then two Motherwell headers where we hardly contested.Perhaps our attacking threat has been affected because of the pressure of knowing that scoring a couple of goals is frequently not enough to win the game.


Bushiri turned a certain draw against Hearts in the most recent derby into a loss, all on his own.

I’m not sure what the answer is, perhaps we do need another CB.

Hibby Kay-Yay
16-01-2024, 04:33 PM
Bushiri turned a certain draw against Hearts in the most recent derby into a loss, all on his own.

I’m not sure what the answer is, perhaps we do need another CB.

Or better strikers to finish off the chances we had. Including Boyle and his poor penalty

BILLYHIBS
16-01-2024, 04:57 PM
Bushiri turned a certain draw against Hearts in the most recent derby into a loss, all on his own.

I’m not sure what the answer is, perhaps we do need another CB.

Poor header from Rocky needs to be more decisive and stronger

Shankland was tight on him but still had a lot to do after getting the break of the ball

Fish might have got more of a challenge in - he knew it - excellent finish though Marsh no chance

As others have said cannae afford to miss pens against Hearts or miss sitters Vente

Not all down to Rocky we win together lose together as a team

ThatDayInMay
16-01-2024, 05:05 PM
Greg Docherty spotted down East Mains apparently. Not the most reliable source but thought I’d post anyway. Wouldn’t expect much to be done while the manager is still out in Dubai but no reason why BK and BM wouldn’t identify/speak with potential incomings.

JohnM1875
16-01-2024, 05:07 PM
Greg Docherty spotted down East Mains apparently. Not the most reliable source but thought I’d post anyway. Wouldn’t expect much to be done while the manager is still out in Dubai but no reason why BK and BM wouldn’t identify/speak with potential incomings.

It’s from the same boy that’s saying Dhanda has signed for us right? Think he’s just at it for a reaction.

Winston Ingram
16-01-2024, 05:24 PM
As one of our two front men playing off the main striker, most likely to be Vente.

Monty’s never played with a 10, played 442 since he’s got here and said he’s not going to change.

Can’t understand why he’d want him.

Wilson
16-01-2024, 05:25 PM
It’s from the same boy that’s saying Dhanda has signed for us right? Think he’s just at it for a reaction.

Well he's getting my Dhanda up. There's a reaction.

04Sauzee
16-01-2024, 05:47 PM
Greg Docherty spotted down East Mains apparently. Not the most reliable source but thought I’d post anyway. Wouldn’t expect much to be done while the manager is still out in Dubai but no reason why BK and BM wouldn’t identify/speak with potential incomings.

Any Hibs transfer rumour posted on twitter with the 👀👀 emoji is normally nonsense tbh 🙂

BILLYHIBS
16-01-2024, 06:02 PM
Greg Docherty spotted down East Mains apparently. Not the most reliable source but thought I’d post anyway. Wouldn’t expect much to be done while the manager is still out in Dubai but no reason why BK and BM wouldn’t identify/speak with potential incomings.

Greg Docherty starts tonight for Hull in the FA Cup

WhileTheChief..
16-01-2024, 06:10 PM
Would like to think we're talking to Docherty if he's wanting to move back up here.

Good, steady, performer that would definitely improve us.

Paulie Walnuts
16-01-2024, 06:12 PM
Would like to think we're talking to Docherty if he's wanting to move back up here.

Good, steady, performer that would definitely improve us.

If he was coming back up the road then he’s far too good to go to anyone below us hearts or Aberdeen. And we’d massively regret letting him go to either of them.

Nicho87
16-01-2024, 06:16 PM
Docherty with Newell and Levitt sounds a half decent midfield all of a sudden.
Pity we will never see that 🤣

AlbertK86
16-01-2024, 06:55 PM
Greg Docherty starts tonight for Hull in the FA Cup

Fast Uber to Hull from East Mains [emoji23][emoji23]


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gorgie greens
16-01-2024, 06:56 PM
Poor header from Rocky needs to be more decisive and stronger

Shankland was tight on him but still had a lot to do after getting the break of the ball

Fish might have got more of a challenge in - he knew it - excellent finish though Marsh no chance

As others have said cannae afford to miss pens against Hearts or miss sitters Vente

Not all down to Rocky we win together lose together as a team
"Not all down to Rocky"
To a point, but he should be nowhere near the first team and gone the first chance we get .

BILLYHIBS
16-01-2024, 07:00 PM
"Not all down to Rocky"
To a point, but he should be nowhere near the first team and gone the first chance we get .

NM keeps picking him

Let’s see what happens

Not fussed who plays only want the best for Hibs

Plenty slagging Hanlon as well

We need better in

TBF Rocky handled Shankland well up to the f#ck up at the goal

Lago
16-01-2024, 07:01 PM
Docherty with Newell and Levitt sounds a half decent midfield all of a sudden.
Pity we will never see that 🤣
Docherty was no more than OK during his brief loan spell, he couldn't wait to get away.

BILLYHIBS
16-01-2024, 07:11 PM
Docherty was no more than OK during his brief loan spell, he couldn't wait to get away.

Yip didnae want to get injured did not turn up versus Hearts or Aberdeen