Winter transfer thread 2023/24

[Stuart93]

Jambo's will be having a field day with this, we make it far too easy for them at times. The window can only get better, can't get any worse surely.

Have a lie down ffs. Thought I was bad.

[Smartie]

The Sun have certainly waded in with what looks like an assassination job on a potential signing and our club. Acceptable “journalism”?

Perfectly acceptable imo.

Scottish club show interest in player with "interesting" past. Rag has pages upon pages needing filled every single day.

It'll give fans of most clubs a chuckle this morning and bother a handful of thin skinned hibbies.

[SHODAN]

Anyone who is bothered by this "revelation" or is worried about names from a couple Hearts fans is really blasting out their own insecurity.

[Real Emerald]

I’d be more worried if we just rushed into signing players that didn’t have chance of playing with the team first just to appease fans.

January windows are never easy and i’d rather we properly assessed a player before deciding on them rather than sign them for the sake of it.

It’s not rushed, it would show we’d been prepared. All this rushed nonsense. Planning is everything, just hope we are planning to be late.

[ehf]

In light of our pretty desperate looking transfer strategy this window, does that not call in to question the wisdom of ******g off to Dubai? The whole jaunt must have cost the club a lot of money. For perspective, I would estimate that 1000 season tickets roughly equals £40,000. I read that we took nearly 40 staff and players over. A pretty wild stab at it but the whole jolly must have cost more than £100,000?

So the average price of a season ticket is £40?

[superfurryhibby]

So the average price of a season ticket is £40?

Don't let maths get in the way of a good moan.

[jacomo]

Anyone who is bothered by this "revelation" or is worried about names from a couple Hearts fans is really blasting out their own insecurity.


The revelation about skipping a match to play in a poker tournament is concerning if true.

The rest is just salacious bs.

[Aldo]

Perfectly acceptable imo.

Scottish club show interest in player with "interesting" past. Rag has pages upon pages needing filled every single day.

It'll give fans of most clubs a chuckle this morning and bother a handful of thin skinned hibbies.

I’ll disagree.

People laughing at what he’s wearing or what he prefers to wear?

They then print quotes from managers/owners about what they say to someone who wears women’s clothes. You think that’s acceptable?? Potentially questioning the players sexuality ( how it could be perceived).

Tbh don’t expect anything different from the rag that printed it and they printed lies for years etc!

Verging on a crime for me and they should be called out for it!

[MrRobot]

It’s not rushed, it would show we’d been prepared. All this rushed nonsense. Planning is everything, just hope we are planning to be late.

For me i’d rather the club took their time and got a chance to see how the players fit into the squad and play with them in games - the winter training camp is a great way of doing just that.

2 weeks time if we’ve not signed anybody i’ll probably be a bit worried :greengrin

[DinkyTwo]

Grow a set ffs. Who cares what they think?Doesn't even seem that bad. Guy was injured, went to play a poker game, won 17 grand, once posed in a dress on social media.

Oh, and he'd scored 14 in 27 games immediately before that...

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[TheGreenMan]

Turnbull was linked with AC Milan last week. Literally zero chance of him joining any other club in scotlsnd

I think that’s agents shooting for the moon and trying to generate interest.

He’s been nowhere near a regular starter for 4 years. I personally don’t think he’d be seen as being athletic enough for Championship in England and has probably under 50 games in 4 years (numbers out the sky).

Edit:

20/21: 27 starts (2499 mins)
21/22: 20 starts (1820 mins)
22/23: 8 starts (873 mins)
23/24: 6 starts (675 mins)

From: https://footystats.org/players/scotland/david-turnbull

I think it’d be ambitious and at the top of our targets but this is the kind of player we should be pushing for imo and giving him a platform to move on again. Very good player and a goal threat from midfield

[Mcbizz1998]

Don't bother looking at this link, it's just regurgitated scheidt about the Brazilian trialist's lifestyle etc.

Maybe he is a furry as well as a drag act?

[Stuart93]

I think that’s agents shooting for the moon and trying to generate interest.

He’s been nowhere near a regular starter for 4 years. I personally don’t think he’d be seen as being athletic enough for Championship in England and has probably under 50 games in 4 years (numbers out the sky).

I think it’d be ambitious and at the top of our targets but this is the kind of player we should be pushing for imo and giving him a platform to move on again. Very good player and a goal threat from midfield

It’s a completely unrealistic target.

Too expensive in wages, undoubtedly too good for us as well.

We should go for Turnbull
Goes to top end championship
WE’VE NO AMBITION

I would prefer us to have targets but they at least have to be realistic

[superfurryhibby]

I think that’s agents shooting for the moon and trying to generate interest.

He’s been nowhere near a regular starter for 4 years. I personally don’t think he’d be seen as being athletic enough for Championship in England and has probably under 50 games in 4 years (numbers out the sky).

I think it’d be ambitious and at the top of our targets but this is the kind of player we should be pushing for imo and giving him a platform to move on again. Very good player and a goal threat from midfield

He played 106 times for Celtic in his first three seasons. He's started a good few games this season and had plenty of minutes as a sub. There is no chance he'll be anywhere near Hibs, not a hope in hell.

[superfurryhibby]

Hibs next set of fixtures are home v the Atillas, Killie away, home v St Mirren and Celtic, away v Aberdeen, home v Dundee, then away to Hearts. That takes us to the end of Feb. Given our recent dire form, I worry where will be in the table by the end of that run of fixtures.

We need first team starters. The window has 18 more days to go, Hibs need to spend some money and bring in some quality.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It’s a completely unrealistic target.

Too expensive in wages, undoubtedly too good for us as well.

We should go for Turnbull
Goes to top end championship
WE’VE NO AMBITION

I would prefer us to have targets but they at least have to be realistic

I’m not sure it’s completely unrealistic if the Foley money ever arrives.

Celtic sold Christie to top end Championship and he was a much more important player for them than Turnbull who’s never really managed to nail down a starting berth. Porteous and Nisbet are regular Scotland internationals and they’re mid table jobbers down there.

I do think we’d struggle to get him, but I’m not sure it’s as out the question as some seem to think if Foleys money comes to fruition.

[babahibs]

Anyone who is bothered by this "revelation" or is worried about names from a couple Hearts fans is really blasting out their own insecurity.

This.
Kinda pathetic really.

[Brightside]

Complaining about a player that we aren’t signing is some top class moaning. Some people must really struggle to get through a day.

[Unseen work]

I’m not sure it’s completely unrealistic if the Foley money ever arrives.

Celtic sold Christie to top end Championship and he was a much more important player for them than Turnbull who’s never really managed to nail down a starting berth. Porteous and Nisbet are regular Scotland internationals and they’re mid table jobbers down there.

I do think we’d struggle to get him, but I’m not sure it’s as out the question as some seem to think if Foleys money comes to fruition.

I think people are overestimating how far this Foley money will go.

Maybe over a couple of years we might get to that stage, but in the first instance it won’t show an obvious difference even if we get 6 million.

Look at the difference in income between Hearts/Aberdeen and ourselves. Aberdeen have sold a few players recently for millions - Ferguson, McKenna, Ramsay etc

The 6 million will realistically get us closer wage wise and improve our calibre/depth of squad and make it more comparable to them rather than surge past them and become the definite 3rd team in the league

[babahibs]

I’ll disagree.

People laughing at what he’s wearing or what he prefers to wear?

They then print quotes from managers/owners about what they say to someone who wears women’s clothes. You think that’s acceptable?? Potentially questioning the players sexuality ( how it could be perceived).

Tbh don’t expect anything different from the rag that printed it and they printed lies for years etc!

Verging on a crime for me and they should be called out for it!

And this

[JohnM1875]

Yet if say Shankland for example, imagine he posted himself in blackface on twitter. Then deleted the account. That would just be brushed off as “banter" yet a guy in a dress would get hung out to dry in Scotland. I’m only saying this as I was shown a picture by a Jambo mate that I hope was fake.

Shankland picture wasn’t fake.

[BoomtownHibees]

Yet if say Shankland for example, imagine he posted himself in blackface on twitter. Then deleted the account. That would just be brushed off as “banter" yet a guy in a dress would get hung out to dry in Scotland. I’m only saying this as I was shown a picture by a Jambo mate that I hope was fake.

It wasn’t fake

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Why would signing someone early means it’s been rushed? We’ll be looking into recruitment all season. We don’t just start looking for players on New Year’s Day.

Could it be that our targets have been snapped up by other clubs? Just a thought.

[Aldo]

And this

Misinterpreted…..

Post amended!

[HFC93]

Jambo's will be having a field day with this, we make it far too easy for them at times. The window can only get better, can't get any worse surely.

Why? Are you worried that Hearts fans might come up with another homophobic ditty? Pathetic post.

[JohnM1875]

And this what?? Pathetic? What for having an opinion?

FWIW I don’t really care what ‘other fans’ think, this called the guy out for wearing a dress and printed quotes questioning his sexuality! That is plain wrong. Who bloody cares!

Think he was agreeing with you

[Silky]

Jambo's will be having a field day with this, we make it far too easy for them at times. The window can only get better, can't get any worse surely.

So what? Who actually cares about them and what they think! Are we actually at the stage where we canny take it! Let them have a "field day" if that's what gets them off.

[Aldo]

I thought he was agreeing with you tbh...

Which is fair enough, even if I have a different viewpoint.


Think he was agreeing with you

Misread and misinterpreted . Apologises!



Shall remove the post if that’s the case and hands up!

[pepe]

It wasn’t fake
It wasn’t? Thought I might have been slating an innocent guy there. That’s well out of order.

[Smartie]

Misread and interpreted. Apologises!



Shall remove the post if that’s the case and hands up!

I see what you mean now.. so I've deleted mine (hadn't seen the post a few up from that one).

[superfurryhibby]

Complaining about a player that we aren’t signing is some top class moaning. Some people must really struggle to get through a day.

What does that say about those complaining about folk complaining ? :greengrin

[babahibs]

Misread and misinterpreted . Apologises!



Shall remove the post if that’s the case and hands up!

Cool, I was agreeing with you mate, maybe wasn't clear though

[Percy Vere]

If Adryan is anywhere close to the player in this video we should sign him. Only 29, I guess it's about fitness, attitude etc.
what a player he could be for Hibs

https://youtu.be/Y6R6-ubL2jc?si=qrrEwqOQJ8q2o5Nd

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Confirmed by Fab

🚨🔵⚪️ Olympique Marseille have agreed on deal to sign Josh Doig from Hellas Verona.

Final details being sorted, personal terms are now 100% agreed.

Doig, expected to travel in the next days for medical tests. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

⛔️ Rangers were never working on this deal despite links.

[Bostonhibby]

Anyone who is bothered by this "revelation" or is worried about names from a couple Hearts fans is really blasting out their own insecurity.Exactly this, it's not as if we are looking to revive Graham Rix's career or employ a registered sex offender.............

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[JohnM1875]

Confirmed by Fab

🚨🔵⚪️ Olympique Marseille have agreed on deal to sign Josh Doig from Hellas Verona.

Final details being sorted, personal terms are now 100% agreed.

Doig, expected to travel in the next days for medical tests. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

⛔️ Rangers were never working on this deal despite links.

Beautiful stuff.

[GreenCastle]

If Adryan is anywhere close to the player in this video we should sign him. Only 29, I guess it's about fitness, attitude etc.
what a player he could be for Hibs

https://youtu.be/Y6R6-ubL2jc?si=qrrEwqOQJ8q2o5Nd

Leeds friend messaged me out the blue saying he couldn't believe Hibs were trying to get him.

Leeds fans so hyped about him, ridiculous skulls but so far off being a professional in the Championship at the time.

He plays off the main striker or on the left - hasn't played a full 90 mins since Feb 2019 - free agent currently.

[KWJ]

Confirmed by Fab

🚨🔵⚪️ Olympique Marseille have agreed on deal to sign Josh Doig from Hellas Verona.

Final details being sorted, personal terms are now 100% agreed.

Doig, expected to travel in the next days for medical tests. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

⛔️ Rangers were never working on this deal despite links.

Hope it's more than the rumoured 4.3M. Not too much of a windfall for us.

Hopefully Verona have a big sell on fee with that which could trickle down to us if he moves again for the silly money.

[7Hero]

Was Steven Fletcher not linked with Real Madrid? Not a chance in hell Milan would be looking at Turnbull in my opinion. Just the usual January window paper *****.

Ferguson linked with Juventus, Scottish players recently Doig / Henderson doing well over there. More chance than you are giving it for sure...

[JohnM1875]

Ferguson linked with Juventus, Scottish players recently Doig / Henderson doing well over there. More chance than you are giving it for sure...

Just can’t see it at all. He doesn’t always start for Celtic and Milan have about five better centre mids

[AlbertK86]

Jambo's will be having a field day with this, we make it far too easy for them at times. The window can only get better, can't get any worse surely.

Jeez … take a settler. Who cares what they think about him


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[GloryGlory]

Hope it's more than the rumoured 4.3M. Not too much of a windfall for us.

Hopefully Verona have a big sell on fee with that which could trickle down to us if he moves again for the silly money.

This journo has it at 6 million Euros plus add ons:

https://twitter.com/DiMarzio/status/1746140494818595226

https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/marsiglia-doig-verona-calciomercato-news-13-gennaio-2024

[Paulie Walnuts]

Jesse Lingaard has come out and said money isn’t a driving force for him and he simply wants to play football.. should we make an offer and test whether he actually means that? :greengrin

[jacomo]

Hibs next set of fixtures are home v the Atillas, Killie away, home v St Mirren and Celtic, away v Aberdeen, home v Dundee, then away to Hearts. That takes us to the end of Feb. Given our recent dire form, I worry where will be in the table by the end of that run of fixtures.

We need first team starters. The window has 18 more days to go, Hibs need to spend some money and bring in some quality.


How many season tickets will this cost?

:wink:

[superfurryhibby]

How many season tickets will this cost?

:wink:

About the cost of two trips to Dubai per player: greengrin

[Aldo]

Cool, I was agreeing with you mate, maybe wasn't clear though

[emoji1303]

I Just need to read it better prior to commenting!

[thebausburst]

St Mirren signing Kwon Hyeok-kyu on loan from Celtic looks like a good bit of business.

[SHODAN]

Exactly this, it's not as if we are looking to revive Graham Rix's career or employ a registered sex offender.............

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Some of the worst people in the world would have you believe the two are equivalent.

[Lago]

Some really energetic posting on here today, don't you just love this time of the year in the football calendar :greengrin

[Bridge hibs]

St Mirren signing Kwon Hyeok-kyu on loan from Celtic looks like a good bit of business.

Does it, has he even kicked a ball for celtc ?

[Corstorphine Hibby]

Doig to Rangers:

I’d relax. Not only can they not afford the asking price, if doubt they have any serious intentions of signing Doig. After a bad reverse the press always link them to new players to keep the idiots that follow them onside. If it talks up his price then it’s good news for us.

Prophetic words. Take a bow Sir.

[JammyDoidger]

Big Myk left out the Swansea squad again today, get it done Hibs.

[GloryGlory]

Big Myk left out the Swansea squad again today, get it done Hibs.

Injured again?

[scoopyboy]

Big Myk left out the Swansea squad again today, get it done Hibs.

Always injured, has played about 15 minutes since end of September

[Billy Whizz]

St Mirren signing Kwon Hyeok-kyu on loan from Celtic looks like a good bit of business.

I’d never heard of him until yesterday

[Lago]

Always injured, has played about 15 minutes since end of September
No point in wasting money especially if it's as tight as some seem to think.

[Nevi_SOL]

Jambo's will be having a field day with this, we make it far too easy for them at times. The window can only get better, can't get any worse surely.

So ****** 😂😂. If he's doing the damage on the park we can turn it around them as a positive. To many fans concerned what the other fans will think. If he likes to do that in his spare time let him do it. Doesn't affect mine or your life's.

[A Hi-Bee]

Jambo's will be having a field day with this, we make it far too easy for them at times. The window can only get better, can't get any worse surely.

Sniff, sniff, get him signed, very few characters around who can really play nowadays.
:scarf::partyhibb:smokin

[Hibees1973]

Leeds friend messaged me out the blue saying he couldn't believe Hibs were trying to get him.

Leeds fans so hyped about him, ridiculous skulls but so far off being a professional in the Championship at the time.

He plays off the main striker or on the left - hasn't played a full 90 mins since Feb 2019 - free agent currently.

On the contrary.

This guy may tick a lot of our recruitment teams' boxes.

[04Sauzee]

I'm sure I read a few pages back we were meant to be close to getting a left sided midfield player that Montgomery wanted and another player.
Also read a few pages back we were meant to be trying to get the young Leeds guy on a permanent but now he's only on trial.

[CapitalGreen]

I'm sure I read a few pages back we were meant to be close to getting a left sided midfield player that Montgomery wanted and another player.
Also read a few pages back we were meant to be trying to get the young Leeds guy on a permanent but now he's only on trial.

Don’t believe everything you read on the internet is probably the key takeaway here.

[GloryGlory]

Doig starting for Verona today - maybe transfer to Marseille not as close as some journos have reported?

https://twitter.com/HellasVeronaFC/status/1746200816791199906

[Heisenberg]

Doig starting for Verona today - maybe transfer to Marseille not as close as some journos have reported?

https://twitter.com/HellasVeronaFC/status/1746200816791199906

Last I saw he is meant to be signing early next week. €6m fee.

https://t.co/DBRlUIfuFE

[Torto7]

Just can’t see it at all. He doesn’t always start for Celtic and Milan have about five better centre mids

??:confused:

[erin go bragh]

Last I saw he is meant to be signing early next week. €6m fee.

https://t.co/DBRlUIfuFE
Former Hibs (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topic/hibs) star Josh Doig (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topic/josh-doig) is set to join Marseille from Serie A's Hellas Verona with the contract likely to be signed within the next few hours.

Not only will Scotland (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topic/scotland) fans be delighted to see the Under 21 international star rising so quickly through the European football ranks, but the contract will be excellent news for the Hibees as the Easter Road outfit are set to receive 27.5% of the fee Hellas Verona recieve from Doig's sale.

Evening news

[cabbageandribs1875]

is Doig slowly inching his way back home :)

Verona taking a heck of a risk by playing him today, they need the cash don't they

[jacomo]

Former Hibs (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topic/hibs) star Josh Doig (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topic/josh-doig) is set to join Marseille from Serie A's Hellas Verona with the contract likely to be signed within the next few hours.

Not only will Scotland (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topic/scotland) fans be delighted to see the Under 21 international star rising so quickly through the European football ranks, but the contract will be excellent news for the Hibees as the Easter Road outfit are set to receive 27.5% of the fee Hellas Verona recieve from Doig's sale.

Evening news


Other outlets say 27.5% of the profit, not the total fee.

Sadly I have so little faith in the EEN’s sources or accuracy these days that the lower amount is probably true.

[DarlingtonHibee]

Other outlets say 27.5% of the profit, not the total fee.

Sadly I have so little faith in the EEN’s sources or accuracy these days that the lower amount is probably true.

Pretty sure it's the profit.

[Dmas]

Pretty sure it's the profit.

https://x.com/gauntchris/status/1745915445717131484?s=46&t=Q9xj1Of6Boq0Mkc1E67TtQ

[Hibiza]

Pretty sure it's the profit.

Yup.

[Hibiza]

Other outlets say 27.5% of the profit, not the total fee.

Sadly I have so little faith in the EEN’s sources or accuracy these days that the lower amount is probably true.

Sadly I have little faith in our signing policy , I'd rather give it to the EEN for the lower amount.

[jakeshibs]

Exactly. They better hope they bring in the quality we need or this is going to be cast up at the end of the month again.

its simple really if we want better players we as supporters need to raise more funds instead of always wanting others to spend their money, the Gordons have spent on and off the pitch, and backed every manager, we need to do our bit.

[B.H.F.C]

its simple really if we want better players we as supporters need to raise more funds instead of always wanting others to spend their money, the Gordons have spent on and off the pitch, and backed every manager, we need to do our bit.

Na, we need them to spend the money they have better. Look at some of the disasters we have on long contracts in that squad or on the books.

[bod]

I bet every team has players on their on books that their fans wish they hadn’t signed or contracts extended

[SHODAN]

Jesus Christ Verona can yous just ****ing sell him already

[MrSmith]

its simple really if we want better players we as supporters need to raise more funds instead of always wanting others to spend their money, the Gordons have spent on and off the pitch, and backed every manager, we need to do our bit.

Thing is, we do give them our money in season tix and walk ups and further to this, some of us pay a monthly DD into Hibs too. It was only sheer desperation that the jumbos ended up paying into their club due to going down the tubes and right now, that club, are not worth shining a light on in terms of good practice and sustainability. If it weren't for Ben E. Factor, they would be ****** again!

[cabbageandribs1875]

JD played the whole game for Verona in a 2-1 home win

[Smartie]

Jesus Christ Verona can yous just ****ing sell him already

I actually put quite a substantial amount of our current woes at the door of that summer window (after we'd finished 3rd under Ross) when we started in a half decent position but seemed to be dithering, waiting on us selling Doig and knowing how much we had to spend on improving our squad. It didn't end up happening and we ended up frittering away what budget we had on absolute rubbish that never made any sort of impact at Hibs and it set the tone for the next while.

Hopefully we're not doing that "hanging about, waiting" thing again...

[IberianHibernian]

Na, we need them to spend the money they have better. Look at some of the disasters we have on long contracts in that squad or on the books.Do we sign more " disasters " than other clubs ? Maybe some of the " disasters " will improve with time or if given a chance like Tavares .

[B.H.F.C]

Do we sign more " disasters " than other clubs ? Maybe some of the " disasters " will improve with time or if given a chance like Tavares .

Maybe the odd one will improve. It’s no much fun watching us whilst we wait on that happening though. The model was all wrong and the club have already admitted as much. Sadly, we’re still lumbered with too many past mistakes and it’s preventing us from being a decent side and changing things.

[CentreForward]

Not saying it will be nothing but if it really is based on the profit then it really isn’t going to turn out to be very much. Also we will probably have to pay tax on the amount we receive. Had high hopes when he went to Verona that when they sold him on we would make several million but if it’s profit then it might just be a few 100k at the most.

[VoltaireHibs]

I think Doig is a good example of selling a decent young talent to the wrong club. Verona are a struggling club, very much the St Johnstone of Serie A, they were never going to sell a player for huge money. Something to think about going forward. If they get 6 millions euros and we get our cut we'll have done decent business overall, but definitely feel it could have been a bit more at a better club.

[ancient hibee]

Not saying it will be nothing but if it really is based on the profit then it really isn’t going to turn out to be very much. Also we will probably have to pay tax on the amount we receive. Had high hopes when he went to Verona that when they sold him on we would make several million but if it’s profit then it might just be a few 100k at the most.
Why would tax be due on a transfer fee? We’ll also get the money we’re due for the original sale .In which case it’ll be more than a million quid.

[CallumLaidlaw]

I think Doig is a good example of selling a decent young talent to the wrong club. Verona are a struggling club, very much the St Johnstone of Serie A, they were never going to sell a player for huge money. Something to think about going forward. If they get 6 millions euros and we get our cut we'll have done decent business overall, but definitely feel it could have been a bit more at a better club.

Tbh I thought £3m was a tremendous deal for us in the first place. Anything more is just a bigger added bonus.


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[Ray_]

Why would tax be due on a transfer fee? We’ll also get the money we’re due for the original sale .In which case it’ll be more than a million quid.

I remember Joe Harper's move from Everton, the fee was £120k, the tax brought the fee Tom Hart had to pay to 132k. This is where the Everton chairman had asked how Hibs wanted to pay [in installments] & TH responded by saying in 5p coins, and he boasted that he then wrote the cheque out for the full £132K.

So in this case, it was the buying club who paid the tax.

[04Sauzee]

From Fabrizio Romano

🔵⚪️ Olympique Marseille agreed on personal terms with Josh Doig.

Hellas Verona still prefer to sell Doing to Sassuolo after fresh bid — pushing to do deal with Sassuolo.

Doig wants to play for OM. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

OM want final decision soon or will start talks for another fullback.

[CentreForward]

Why would tax be due on a transfer fee? We’ll also get the money we’re due for the original sale .In which case it’ll be more than a million quid.

To be honest am not entirely sure how these things work. Was just guessing that we may have to pay tax on any profit. How much money are we due from original sale? Didn’t we receive it all at the time we sold him?

[McD]

Thing is, we do give them our money in season tix and walk ups and further to this, some of us pay a monthly DD into Hibs too. It was only sheer desperation that the jumbos ended up paying into their club due to going down the tubes and right now, that club, are not worth shining a light on in terms of good practice and sustainability. If it weren't for Ben E. Factor, they would be ****** again!



Don’t think anyone is paying a monthly DD to Hibs at the moment

[Forza Fred]

Not only will Scotland (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topic/scotland) fans be delighted to see the Under 21 international star rising so quickly through the European football ranks, but the contract will be excellent news for the Hibees as the Easter Road outfit are set to receive 27.5% of the fee Hellas Verona recieve from Doig's sale.

Evening news[/QUOTE]

The News also said that the Scottish based players playing in the Asia Cup would be travelling to The Ivory Coast for the tournament, so I’m not sure there is a high emphasis placed by them on fact checking.

[Michael]

To be honest am not entirely sure how these things work. Was just guessing that we may have to pay tax on any profit. How much money are we due from original sale? Didn’t we receive it all at the time we sold him?

We might not have any profit at year end.

[Musselbound]

Not saying it will be nothing but if it really is based on the profit then it really isn’t going to turn out to be very much. Also we will probably have to pay tax on the amount we receive. Had high hopes when he went to Verona that when they sold him on we would make several million but if it’s profit then it might just be a few 100k at the most.

Yep. I read somewhere about 300k so really not worth getting too excited about.

[Forza Fred]

To be honest am not entirely sure how these things work. Was just guessing that we may have to pay tax on any profit. How much money are we due from original sale? Didn’t we receive it all at the time we sold him?

Substantial transfer fees are rarely paid off in a lump sum these days.
Usually it is in instalments over an agreed and documented time frame.

I’d be very surprised for example, if all the transfer fee from the sale of Melkersen had been received by us yet.

[Forza Fred]

I remember Joe Harper's move from Everton, the fee was £120k, the tax brought the fee Tom Hart had to pay to 132k. This is where the Everton chairman had asked how Hibs wanted to pay [in installments] & TH responded by saying in 5p coins, and he boasted that he then wrote the cheque out for the full £132K.

So in this case, it was the buying club who paid the tax.

Second story I’ve heard concerning Tom Hart and tax!

Always remember Jimmy O’Rourke telling me that when Eddie Turnbull decided it was time for Jimmy to go, when he was transferred to St Johnstone Jimmy was due a percentage of the transfer fee, or similar, and Tom Hart told him because he had been such a faithful servant to the club that he would pay the tax due on it.

[JimBHibees]

Jesus Christ Verona can yous just ****ing sell him already

Agree seems incredibly drawn out.

[brog]

I bet every team has players on their on books that their fans wish they hadn’t signed or contracts extended

Exactly right, Celtc just sent a star signing to St M on loan. Incidentally I looked at SPFL top tier transfers last night. Of the top 6 clubs plus Sheep there has not been 1 permanent transfer. 3 loans only. We are not alone.

[Just_Jimmy]

its simple really if we want better players we as supporters need to raise more funds instead of always wanting others to spend their money, the Gordons have spent on and off the pitch, and backed every manager, we need to do our bit.Nah, just spend what they have better. I wouldn't trust them with a pound of my money when it comes to spotting a player. Far too much dross.

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[MrSmith]

Don’t think anyone is paying a monthly DD to Hibs at the moment
Well, it still comes out of my account.

[Forza Fred]

Report in Oz today that Hibs and an unnamed French side competing for signature of 18 year old striker Musa Toure of Adelaide United and likely that it will be resolved this month.

Report goes on to say that Hibs are favourites and probably that they will immediately loan Toure back to Adelaide for rest of this season if they clinch the deal.

Don’t know the veracity of this report though, and the reporter is not one of my favourites tbh.

[Nicho87]

This window feels very hibs.

I get January window is hard

However Monty has been in position for months as has BM

fact we’re still scratching around getting a trialist in just cause he was in the country

Another under 23 player from Leeds, this kind of gives me the fear.

I feel short changed, currently

[Scotty Leither]

Report in Oz today that Hibs and an unnamed French side competing for signature of 18 year old striker Musa Toure of Adelaide United and likely that it will be resolved this month.

Report goes on to say that Hibs are favourites and probably that they will immediately loan Toure back to Adelaide for rest of this season if they clinch the deal.

Don’t know the veracity of this report though.

Another “one for the future?” What is it about our recruitment team and bringing players in only to send them back out the door again?

It’s utterly bewildering when we’re crying out for 3 or 4 straight in starters yet our signings smack of building Development Team Mark 2.

[Col2]

This window feels very hibs.

I get January window is hard

However Monty has been in position for months as has BM

fact we’re still scratching around getting a trialist in just cause he was in the country

Another under 23 player from Leeds, this kind of gives me the fear.

I feel short changed, currently

Yes feels like that. We are not tweaking around the edges, we have some material gaps and are behind the pace in race for top 4 never mind 3rd which is likely gone now.

[Rumble de Thump]

This window feels very hibs.

I get January window is hard

However Monty has been in position for months as has BM

fact we’re still scratching around getting a trialist in just cause he was in the country

Another under 23 player from Leeds, this kind of gives me the fear.

I feel short changed, currently

Why would we not bring players in on trial, especially if we're short on bodies, while we're trying to tie up deals for players?

[GloryGlory]

Another “one for the future?” What is it about our recruitment team and bringing players in only to send them back out the door again?

It’s utterly bewildering when we’re crying out for 3 or 4 straight in starters yet our signings smack of building Development Team Mark 2.

Surely these are two different strands of work by the recruitment dept? Not a case of either/or but a need to recruit for both 1st team and development squad.

[Bridge hibs]

This window feels very hibs.

I get January window is hard

However Monty has been in position for months as has BM

fact we’re still scratching around getting a trialist in just cause he was in the country

Another under 23 player from Leeds, this kind of gives me the fear.

I feel short changed, currentlyManager requests players, McDermot identifies players, clubs dont want to release players or change value of players, agents play hard ball or player doesnt fancy it therefore we also look to trialists

Rinse and repeat

[GreenCastle]

Another “one for the future?” What is it about our recruitment team and bringing players in only to send them back out the door again?

It’s utterly bewildering when we’re crying out for 3 or 4 straight in starters yet our signings smack of building Development Team Mark 2.

Our development team / u18s according to the club website have 8 players on loan. Probably more as Rueben Mc also at Kelty.

The fixtures show they play between 1 and 3 matches a month.

It’s all very odd and not sure the whole B team experiment has worked (shock).

Will Hibs admit that?

There are 1000s of footballers around the world who could come into our team and improve us but for some reason we seem to struggle to do that.

Do we even have scouts who go abroad anymore ? Dubai trip money could be used to send scouts abroad to look at players which would be far more beneficial than a threadbare squad going to Dubai and losing 5-1 to a team similar to Luzren.

Seems we just look at a computer with a load of stats trying to find players who have high % on certain areas of the game or sellon potential.

What these scouting databases don’t tell you is about character and personality - something this Hibs team is seriously lacking.

[H18 SFR]

This window feels very hibs.

I get January window is hard

However Monty has been in position for months as has BM

fact we’re still scratching around getting a trialist in just cause he was in the country

Another under 23 player from Leeds, this kind of gives me the fear.

I feel short changed, currently

I think I have come to the conclusion that we are writing off season 23/24 and are preparing for July league cup / August league starting.

[Brightside]

Yep. I read somewhere about 300k so really not worth getting too excited about.

It is over 1m. From a very good source. It’s not a simple % deal. But it’s a brilliant deal for Hibs.

[Nicho87]

I think I have come to the conclusion that we are writing off season 23/24 and are preparing for July league cup / August league starting.

Exactly that. If we scrape to fifth it’ll be deemed a successful season by hibs in yet another transitional season.

I just imagined hibs to have identified one or two players we were getting in pretty quick. Clubs not wanting to do business etc is an easy cop out.

[Scotty Leither]

Surely these are two different strands of work by the recruitment dept? Not a case of either/or but a need to recruit for both 1st team and development squad.

They seem to have signed a whole team in the last couple of years that have made absolutely zero impact on the first team, and made us look like a dropping-off point for “project” players.

Kensell blows hard about the one exception where we’ve turned a profit on one such player (Melkerson) but then radio silence when fans ask a reasonable question as to whether we can spend some of that back out the way?

[Brightside]

I think Doig is a good example of selling a decent young talent to the wrong club. Verona are a struggling club, very much the St Johnstone of Serie A, they were never going to sell a player for huge money. Something to think about going forward. If they get 6 millions euros and we get our cut we'll have done decent business overall, but definitely feel it could have been a bit more at a better club.

Yeh we should have sold him to Barca 😂

[B.H.F.C]

I think I have come to the conclusion that we are writing off season 23/24 and are preparing for July league cup / August league starting.

I feel a bit like that as well.

I didn’t expect us to overhaul the team but I thought we’d get 2-3 proper players in who would make that instant impact Montgomery spoke about .

We might still do that but it doesn’t feel like it’s heading that way. Director of Football was meant to improve recruitment and two windows in, it doesn’t feel like it is.

[bingo70]

They seem to have signed a whole team in the last couple of years that have made absolutely zero impact on the first team, and made us look like a dropping-off point for “project” players.

Kensell blows hard about the one exception where we’ve turned a profit on one such player (Melkerson) but then radio silence when fans ask a reasonable question as to whether we can spend some of that back out the way?

They did sign a whole team, we created a B team and we needed players to play in it.

Certainly looks like the creation of that team was a waste of time and money but that’s why there seems like an unusually high amount of young squad players signed.

I’ve no problem with this young Aussie guy signing as long as he’s expected to join the first team in the summer, signing players for the B team is a waste of time.

[GreenCastle]

I think I have come to the conclusion that we are writing off season 23/24 and are preparing for July league cup / August league starting.

Hibs transfer cycle …

Summer window..time to get new players - rarely do we get what we need. Midfield and back line prime examples this season.

January window…always tough to get players..wait till summer..maybe get a risk free loan player.. but basically a stop gap.

Usually in between that time we change manager - change formations and fail to actually identify players who will actually improve us over time.

Feels like constantly rebuilding or playing catch up in windows..or simply incompetence of building a sustainable squad who improves. The squad we had 5 years ago was better than this group who cost more.

Few years back it was obvious the team needed refreshed but instead we offered long contracts to average players and now have certain players on a comfortable wage who won’t get as much elsewhere - happy to play for Hibs but not exactly any ambitions to play higher.

We have also recruited a ridiculous amount of players and a large majority have contributed absolutely nothing to improve us - this season we have players like Harbottle and Wollacott.

[Greenio]

Hibs transfer cycle …

Summer window..time to get new players - rarely do we get what we need. Midfield and back line prime examples this season.

January window…always tough to get players..wait till summer..maybe get a risk free loan player.. but basically a stop gap.

Usually in between that time we change manager - change formations and fail to actually identify players who will actually improve us over time.

Feels like constantly rebuilding or playing catch up in windows..or simply incompetence of building a sustainable squad who improves. The squad we had 5 years ago was better than this group who cost more.

Few years back it was obvious the team needed refreshed but instead we offered long contracts to average players and now have certain players on a comfortable wage who won’t get as much elsewhere - happy to play for Hibs but not exactly any ambitions to play higher.

We have also recruited a ridiculous amount of players and a large majority have contributed absolutely nothing to improve us - this season we have players like Harbottle and Wollacott.

Exactly why we need some stability with our manager and back room staff.

But tons of folk would rather start calling for a managers head before he's even had an opportunity.

[McD]

Well, it still comes out of my account.



And goes to HS bank account. Where it stays.


To be clear, I’m not accusing Hibernian Supporters of anything underhand, just simply stating a fact that any monies they gather from members isn’t going to the club at the moment, and hasn’t for some time.

[The Modfather]

Manager requests players, McDermot identifies players, clubs dont want to release players or change value of players, agents play hard ball or player doesnt fancy it therefore we also look to trialists

Rinse and repeat

We might have to overpay to get our top targets, be that on loan this window, owing to failures over a number of windows. We spent close to £2m on fees in the summer alone, added to the money spent the previous summer and we still need to sign a spine of the team as a minimum.

Hibs may buck the trend, or Foley gives us what we need. However, halfway through the transfer window and all we know of is a youngster on trial, an opportunistic trial and seemingly after a player we will loan back out. If I was a betting man it wouldn’t be on Hibs delivering what’s needed this window but repeating the same poorly planned windows as the last 5 or 6.

[Smartie]

Exactly that. If we scrape to fifth it’ll be deemed a successful season by hibs in yet another transitional season.

I just imagined hibs to have identified one or two players we were getting in pretty quick. Clubs not wanting to do business etc is an easy cop out.

“Scraping 5th in another transitional season” will probably define this era for Hibs. It’s not a summation I expect we’ve seen the back of, not by a long shot.

[Eyrie]

Hibs can't afford to run a vanity project.

I've no problem with picking up a couple of decent prospects who we think will work out but having an entire squad of them is a waste of money that is needed for the first team.

Good prospects, whether from our own academy or elsewhere, should be either in our first team squad or out on loan to get meaningful games.

[jakeshibs]

Nah, just spend what they have better. I wouldn't trust them with a pound of my money when it comes to spotting a player. Far too much dross.

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Once again transferring the responsibility

[Scotty Leither]

Exactly why we need some stability with our manager and back room staff.

But tons of folk would rather start calling for a managers head before he's even had an opportunity.

Nobody is calling for the manager’s head yet, but if we lose our next league game against Sevco he’ll be sitting on one point from 12 which is relegation form and a world away from 3rd/4th place.

His appointment felt like another experiment to me, much in the same way as our recruitment of players seems to be, overseen by people who over think things with their main “product”, that being the team ON the park.

[superfurryhibby]

Once again transferring the responsibility

In what way?

Recruitment is the club's responsibility, fans have no input. Do you not understand that the club have wasted a lot of money, some generated by fans via season tickets, hospitality, other commercial routes and then they have wasted it on signing players like Tait, McKay, Harbottle, Delferriere, Wollacot etc.

Tell us, what more should fans be doing?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Nobody is calling for the manager’s head yet, but if we lose our next league game against Sevco he’ll be sitting on one point from 12 which is relegation form and a world away from 3rd/4th place.

His appointment felt like another experiment to me, much in the same way as our recruitment of players seems to be, overseen by people who over think things with their main “product”, that being the team ON the park.

The manager also has to show signs of being able to provide stability. Just sticking with a manager who isn’t showing nearly enough isn’t ‘stability’. That just creates the complete opposite of stability.

Montgomery is probably just on the right side of that line just now. But a very difficult run of fixtures coming up could well change that.

[Keepthefaith]

Another “one for the future?” What is it about our recruitment team and bringing players in only to send them back out the door again?

It’s utterly bewildering when we’re crying out for 3 or 4 straight in starters yet our signings smack of building Development Team Mark 2.

Your views are symptomatic of so many negative posters here. Monty has clearly said he wants players who can make an instant first team impact and doesn't want to have a squad player blocking our upcoming youngsters. That doesn't mean we can't also nip in to secure a young prospect especially if other clubs sniffing around.

Your narrative is constantly inferring the club are actively trying not to sign what we need when you have absolutely no idea what's been happening behind the scenes. Do you think we're the only club who haven't signed what we need yet? Do you really think we've got full control over that?

We're halfway through the window... McDermott has previously detailed the clubs strategy but fans prefer to ignore this and just say he/ the manager/ the club are clueless.

As I've said elsewhere do you really believe the club don't want to have a successful window and aren't doing all they can? If so I find that view incredulous.

[Keepthefaith]

In what way?

Recruitment is the club's responsibility, fans have no input. Do you not understand that the club have wasted a lot of money, some generated by fans via season tickets, hospitality, other commercial routes and then they have wasted it on signing players like Tait, McKay, Harbottle, Delferriere, Wollacot etc.

Tell us, what more should fans be doing?

Tait and McKay were part of Mathies vision IIRC to sign up the best young Scottish talent and develop them. This has been an error and one the club aren't continuing with. Wollacot got injured in his first appearance I think? It's possible that harbottle doesn't fit the style of the new manager?

Fans need to not be so reactionary and hypercritical when we don't know the facts. By all means question the club and hold folk to account for decisions made but this clamour to see heads role when we're also on the verge of new investment which could completely change the picture of our recruitment for the summits an odd one for me.

[matty_f]

Report in Oz today that Hibs and an unnamed French side competing for signature of 18 year old striker Musa Toure of Adelaide United and likely that it will be resolved this month.

Report goes on to say that Hibs are favourites and probably that they will immediately loan Toure back to Adelaide for rest of this season if they clinch the deal.

Don’t know the veracity of this report though, and the reporter is not one of my favourites tbh.

If that French team is Lorient then this is peak Hibs. :greengrin

[Scotty Leither]

Your views are symptomatic of so many negative posters here. Monty has clearly said he wants players who can make an instant first team impact and doesn't want to have a squad player blocking our upcoming youngsters. That doesn't mean we can't also nip in to secure a young prospect especially if other clubs sniffing around.

Your narrative is constantly inferring the club are actively trying not to sign what we need when you have absolutely no idea what's been happening behind the scenes. Do you think we're the only club who haven't signed what we need yet? Do you really think we've got full control over that?

We're halfway through the window... McDermott has previously detailed the clubs strategy but fans prefer to ignore this and just say he/ the manager/ the club are clueless.

As I've said elsewhere do you really believe the club don't want to have a successful window and aren't doing all they can? If so I find that view incredulous.

And as I’ve said elsewhere there’s an experimental air about recruitment that has pervaded the club since the Gordons and Kensell took over. That also extends to the punts we’ve taken on the most important role at the club, that being the manager.

Ive also opined that I think there’ll be nae money spent until the “new” money comes in, if indeed it does., and that’s impacting on the current window, where yes I do think we’re being primed for yet another let down.

[Brightside]

And as I’ve said elsewhere there’s an experimental air about recruitment that has pervaded the club since the Gordons and Kensell took over. That also extends to the punts we’ve taken on the most important role at the club, that being the manager.

Ive also opined that I think there’ll be nae money spent until the “new” money comes in, if indeed it does., and that’s impacting on the current window, where yes I do think we’re being primed for yet another let down.

“Air”. So made up then?

[B.H.F.C]

Tait and McKay were part of Mathies vision IIRC to sign up the best young Scottish talent and develop them. This has been an error and one the club aren't continuing with. Wollacot got injured in his first appearance I think? It's possible that harbottle doesn't fit the style of the new manager?

Fans need to not be so reactionary and hypercritical when we don't know the facts. By all means question the club and hold folk to account for decisions made but this clamour to see heads role when we're also on the verge of new investment which could completely change the picture of our recruitment for the summits an odd one for me.

Fans simply react to what they see. And what many of us are seeing is that we had another poor window in the summer which has impacted us in the first half of the season.

If we were playing better, sitting in a better position in the league and not 11 points behind Hearts, folk wouldn’t be so critical. They’re the only facts that really matter to us simple fans.

[Aldo]

The manager also has to show signs of being able to provide stability. Just sticking with a manager who isn’t showing nearly enough isn’t ‘stability’. That just creates the complete opposite of stability.

Montgomery is probably just on the right side of that line just now. But a very difficult run of fixtures coming up could well change that.

I’ll disagree.

Montgomery deserves a chance with his own players. Just showed how poor our recruitment had been. Yes we did well during our honeymoon period and yes we have struggled a bit of late but I don’t want him sacked or relived of his duties. He’s working with what he has and would seem the players are struggling.

NM should and will be here for the foreseeable!

[Is It On....]

Tait and McKay were part of Mathies vision IIRC to sign up the best young Scottish talent and develop them. This has been an error and one the club aren't continuing with. Wollacot got injured in his first appearance I think? It's possible that harbottle doesn't fit the style of the new manager?

Fans need to not be so reactionary and hypercritical when we don't know the facts. By all means question the club and hold folk to account for decisions made but this clamour to see heads role when we're also on the verge of new investment which could completely change the picture of our recruitment for the summits an odd one for me.

The strategy of signing up the best young talent is a good strategy, it's the implementation that needs to be improved.

[B.H.F.C]

I’ll disagree.

Montgomery deserves a chance with his own players. Just showed how poor our recruitment had been. Yes we did well during our honeymoon period and yes we have struggled a bit of late but I don’t want him sacked or relived of his duties. He’s working with what he has and would seem the players are struggling.

NM should and will be here for the foreseeable!

Agree with this, short of us having some kind of disastrous second half of the season. I really think the abilities of this squad are overplayed by some. It’s pish, with a sprinkling of decent players mainly in attacking areas. Until the squad changes, not much else will.

[mcfly]

Underwhelming so far.

Not linked with anyone. It’s so obvious what we need as we leak far too many cheap goals.

Surely we can find an experienced centre half.

I really think we have wasted so much money on players that will never make first team regulars.

Time will tell

[big gogs]

Yep. I read somewhere about 300k so really not worth getting too excited about.
300k,is that all,tell them to keep it,I’ve lost more running for a bus,who would need that piffling amount of money.tell them we want more ,or the deals off.

[Scotty Leither]

“Air”. So made up then?

Experimental “feel” then? A vanity project development team that neither plays games nor “develops” players which will burnt a fair wedge of money. Nowt made up about that.

[Aldo]

Agree with this, short of us having some kind of disastrous second half of the season. I really think the abilities of this squad are overplayed by some. It’s pish, with a sprinkling of decent players mainly in attacking areas. Until the squad changes, not much else will.

Exactly how I see it.

[J-C]

And as I’ve said elsewhere there’s an experimental air about recruitment that has pervaded the club since the Gordons and Kensell took over. That also extends to the punts we’ve taken on the most important role at the club, that being the manager.

Ive also opined that I think there’ll be nae money spent until the “new” money comes in, if indeed it does., and that’s impacting on the current window, where yes I do think we’re being primed for yet another let down.

Johnson was not an experimental air, he was a manager who came with a fair amount of experience and TBF probably hoodwinked our owners with his BS and they bought into it. I agree Montgomery is a bit of a punt but he's just came off a winning season and has proven to be a very capable coach and is known for his development of players. We have to wait until he gets his own players in, this might not be until after the summer though.

[JammyDoidger]

We are underachieving and have massive deficiencies all over the pitch, We have done nothing nearly halfway into the window to fix these issues. We've taken a young laddie from Leeds on trial, we need more quality in the door, if we are taking Loan signings then it should be because we couldn't usually afford them unless on loan, not a young laddie with zero first team experience, whoever we bring in has to be a nailed on starter and push some of the crap we are currently playing onto the bench, a dominant centre half is a must, a dominant Box to Box Centre midfielder is a must, and if we are going to play Vente the way we are then a number 10 is a must also. RB we have Megwa, Whittaker, Miller and Cadden, not even a priority imo. Crazy to bring a young lad on loan to play there.
I get that we've had success with these signings in the past but we've also had failures, I don't think we can afford to gamble this window, we need proven quality and if that means only bringing in 1 or 2 then so be it, rather that than more squad fillers.

[J-C]

Tait and McKay were part of Mathies vision IIRC to sign up the best young Scottish talent and develop them. This has been an error and one the club aren't continuing with. Wollacot got injured in his first appearance I think? It's possible that harbottle doesn't fit the style of the new manager?

Fans need to not be so reactionary and hypercritical when we don't know the facts. By all means question the club and hold folk to account for decisions made but this clamour to see heads role when we're also on the verge of new investment which could completely change the picture of our recruitment for the summits an odd one for me.

:agree:

Signing up and coming young talent has always been the way at Hibs, it's their development that has gone wrong. We signed McGinn and Boyle as 2 young talented players, one is playing in the top league in the world for a very good team and the other is a regular for his country. We snapped up Doig and developed him into a £6m player, developed Nisbet and sold for a reported £2m.

Some work out and some don't, every club does this.

[Centre Hawf]

I’ll disagree.

Montgomery deserves a chance with his own players. Just showed how poor our recruitment had been. Yes we did well during our honeymoon period and yes we have struggled a bit of late but I don’t want him sacked or relived of his duties. He’s working with what he has and would seem the players are struggling.

NM should and will be here for the foreseeable!

If he can’t win enough games of football he should not be here at all let alone the foreseeable future.

Also NM won’t be signing ‘his own players’ he’ll get what he and BM etc all can identify and agree on. Otherwise we risk letting a manager sign 8-10 players over the next two windows before removing them and having this exact conversation about the next guy in a years time.

[Forza Fred]

If that French team is Lorient then this is peak Hibs. :greengrin

Aye, that would be fun!

Just a note of caution though…the article is out there as I relayed..but…..whether it’s accurate is for the individual reader to decide.

I have my own view on it tbh……..

[MrSmith]

And goes to HS bank account. Where it stays.


To be clear, I’m not accusing Hibernian Supporters of anything underhand, just simply stating a fact that any monies they gather from members isn’t going to the club at the moment, and hasn’t for some time.

time to kill that DD then as I assumed it was going to the club.

[brog]

:agree:

Signing up and coming young talent has always been the way at Hibs, it's their development that has gone wrong. We signed McGinn and Boyle as 2 young talented players, one is playing in the top league in the world for a very good team and the other is a regular for his country. We snapped up Doig and developed him into a £6m player, developed Nisbet and sold for a reported £2m.

Some work out and some don't, every club does this.

Far too sensible! Let me repeat, not one club in the top 8 has made a permanent signing this window and some, notably Dundee, have been weakened by the loss of loan players.

[JohnM1875]

Far too sensible! Let me repeat, not one club in the top 8 has made a permanent signing this window and some, notably Dundee, have been weakened by the loss of loan players.

Couldn’t really care less what other clubs are doing to be honest. We need to strengthen and I’m disappointed we haven’t done so yet.

Half way through the month and an important Scottish cup tie and league fixture coming up.

[B.H.F.C]

:agree:

Signing up and coming young talent has always been the way at Hibs, it's their development that has gone wrong. We signed McGinn and Boyle as 2 young talented players, one is playing in the top league in the world for a very good team and the other is a regular for his country. We snapped up Doig and developed him into a £6m player, developed Nisbet and sold for a reported £2m.

Some work out and some don't, every club does this.

You need to have the spine of a team to fit these type of players in to.

Doig and Nisbet came in to the team the same season and we had a solid team for this league. McGinn wasn’t just brought in to develop, he was brought in to improve us and had already played a hundred odd games for St Mirren in a higher league than we were in at the time. All of these guys had decent, solid players around them. We don’t have that just now and it’s the most critical thing we need to get in this window.

[matty_f]

The strategy of signing up the best young talent is a good strategy, it's the implementation that needs to be improved.

Totally agree. I’d the execution of the strategy that leaves a lot to be desired rather than the strategy itself.

[Trinity Hibee]

For Hibs what I see as the most prudent way of spending money/making signings is that window of youngsters between 20-25 who have played at least a season of first team football (admittedly probably at a lower level) who have the potential to progress. Nisbet is a perfect example and of course not all are going to be successes.

What concerns me is the constant signing of players (either on loan or permanent) who are in clubs under 20s teams or players who haven’t played more than a handful of first team games. A club the size of Hibs with our expectations can’t be giving players their first appearances in senior football unless they have come through our own ranks (even that seems to have dried up).

I can’t say I know enough about the Scottish championship but there must be a couple of players in there who would be suitable to make the step up just as nisbet, McGinn, Boyle did. I do remember feeling when McGinn and Nisbet joined that for SPFL level they’d be almost guaranteed successes due to their previous appearances/goals etc.

[Smartie]

Far too sensible! Let me repeat, not one club in the top 8 has made a permanent signing this window and some, notably Dundee, have been weakened by the loss of loan players.

Sure, but how many players do the other clubs appear to be short of being able to play the way their manager wants to play?

Where we are relative to ambition / expectation determines how close our squad is to being acceptable. We probably have enough about us to avoid relegation but we’re sitting within that throng of teams from about 5th - about 11th. Right now I’d expect the current squad to finish probably 7th -10th, if we get lucky with injuries.

Basically, we’re a million miles from being competitive for 3rd and if that’s any sort of ambition then there’s a degree of urgency for recruitment that may not be the same as for other clubs.

[B.H.F.C]

Sure, but how many players do the other clubs appear to be short of being able to play the way their manager wants to play?

Where we are relative to ambition / expectation determines how close our squad is to being acceptable. We probably have enough about us to avoid relegation but we’re sitting within that throng of teams from about 5th - about 11th. Right now I’d expect the current squad to finish probably 7th -10th, if we get lucky with injuries.

Basically, we’re a million miles from being competitive for 3rd and if that’s any sort of ambition then there’s a degree of urgency for recruitment that may not be the same as for other clubs.

Correct. There are two clubs above us who are punching above their weight and have settled teams. There is more urgency for us.

Personally don’t care whether it’s a permanent or loan player we sign. We just need players that can come in and make a difference for the remaining 18 league games and that don’t need to take 5 months to settle in.

[jacomo]

“Air”. So made up then?


I don’t think it’s an unfair observation.

We’ve definitely shown an inclination to recruit from beyond Scotland under the Gordons. Especially young players with potential. This clearly increases the risk but also the potential reward.

[erin go bragh]

Still two weeks left of this window to bring players in. Let's maybe wait and see what signings we make before throwing the toys out the pram.

[CapitalGreen]

I don’t think it’s an unfair observation.

We’ve definitely shown an inclination to recruit from beyond Scotland under the Gordons. Especially young players with potential. This clearly increases the risk but also the potential reward.

We were recruiting from beyond Scotland before the Gordon’s arrived too.

In 2018/19, the season before they arrived we signed 17 players. Of those 17, only 3 were Scottish and only one was from another Scottish team.

[J-C]

I'd also suggest the management merry go round has hindered the progress of quite a few young players.

Jack Ross liked counter attack football.
Maloney possession based.
Johnson claimed to play attacking football but his team line ups were a lottery and almost no youngsters given a chance.
Montgomery plays 442 and is at least giving youth a chance but more out of necessity due to injuries etc.

We've no real identity and it's been like that for some time now, we need to stop this rollercoaster and allow a manager to give us this identity, although saying that I'm not convinced 442 is the way, that's just my preference.

[The Modfather]

Still two weeks left of this window to bring players in. Let's maybe wait and see what signings we make before throwing the toys out the pram.

Throwing toys out the pram is just hyperbole, the criticism has been fairly constructive in the main IMO. The window so far has mimicked most of the previod failed windows. Is there much to give us optimism that the final two weeks of this window will be different to all the other windows in terms of getting what we need and who can make an immediate impact?

[Paulie Walnuts]

If he can’t win enough games of football he should not be here at all let alone the foreseeable future.

Also NM won’t be signing ‘his own players’ he’ll get what he and BM etc all can identify and agree on. Otherwise we risk letting a manager sign 8-10 players over the next two windows before removing them and having this exact conversation about the next guy in a years time.

Agree.

The idea we just give a manager the foreseeable future regardless of what we’re seeing from them is suicidal.

No Hibs manager is ever going to get a squad of players that they’ve built in full themselves. You need to be able to get players that are already here to play well. If you can’t do that, then you’ll fail and you’ll rightly be sacked.

Thankfully there’s absolutely nothing we’ve seen from this Hibs board to suggest a manager is going to be given time for the sake of it.

[brog]

Sure, but how many players do the other clubs appear to be short of being able to play the way their manager wants to play?

Where we are relative to ambition / expectation determines how close our squad is to being acceptable. We probably have enough about us to avoid relegation but we’re sitting within that throng of teams from about 5th - about 11th. Right now I’d expect the current squad to finish probably 7th -10th, if we get lucky with injuries.

Basically, we’re a million miles from being competitive for 3rd and if that’s any sort of ambition then there’s a degree of urgency for recruitment that may not be the same as for other clubs.

Well we were above our city rivals just a few weeks ago. We must also remember we started this season with a 9 point handicap losing our 1st 3 games to teams below us the prior season. 7 points would have been our minimum expectation from these 3 games. Those 7 points would have had us comfortably in 4th with games in hand.
On the other hand it probably means LJ would still be here so it's not all bad!

[CropleyWasGod]

Not saying it will be nothing but if it really is based on the profit then it really isn’t going to turn out to be very much. Also we will probably have to pay tax on the amount we receive. Had high hopes when he went to Verona that when they sold him on we would make several million but if it’s profit then it might just be a few 100k at the most.

Hibs don't make enough in trading profit to be due tax on this.


I remember Joe Harper's move from Everton, the fee was £120k, the tax brought the fee Tom Hart had to pay to 132k. This is where the Everton chairman had asked how Hibs wanted to pay [in installments] & TH responded by saying in 5p coins, and he boasted that he then wrote the cheque out for the full £132K.

So in this case, it was the buying club who paid the tax.

In this case, the tax would have been the 10% VAT that was in force at that time. We would have reclaimed it from Customs & Excise.

[VoltaireHibs]

Tbh I thought £3m was a tremendous deal for us in the first place. Anything more is just a bigger added bonus.


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Yeah, I don't think it's really bad business. As I said in my comment, it's decent. But if the player trading model is looking toward sell on percentages as a large source of income then Verona were always a poor choice of club, for both player and Hibs. I also wonder how much of the transfer fee we've actually received? Is Verona's trading model based on basically buying players on HP, then hoping to sell them before all payments are due as they can't really afford the payments in the first place? That's what this looks like to me. They seem desperate to sell Doig, and have been for a couple of windows. As I said, wrong club to deal with, imo.

[Smartie]

Well we were above our city rivals just a few weeks ago. We must also remember we started this season with a 9 point handicap losing our 1st 3 games to teams below us the prior season. 7 points would have been our minimum expectation from these 3 games. Those 7 points would have had us comfortably in 4th with games in hand.
On the other hand it probably means LJ would still be here so it's not all bad!

Fair points - but whilst there are a few swings here we need to take into consideration the roundabouts.

We had a relative "new manager bounce" to take into consideration, something that is a fairly distant memory. So far we've started atrociously, picked up a fair bit but then slid back to a fairly worrying level over the past month. The window came at a reasonable time for us, to allow us to pause, take stock and strengthen again.

With the players who will be away on international duty for a bit, it is hard to make any sort of argument that a team that was on the slide is going to do anything other than slide further and faster - unless we bring in reinforcements, the type who are ready to make an impact on our first team straight away. Before anyone says it's too big an ask - I'm suggesting a handful of the likes of Egan-Riley, Jeggo, Omeonga, Docherty, Kamberi, McNulty, Irvine, Efe or McLaren, all of whom joined us during the season and improved us at the time (and that's without going back to the times when we've secured Boyle and Stokes in January).

[VoltaireHibs]

Yeh we should have sold him to Barca 😂

Jeezo.

[blackpoolhibs]

These mythical 3 or 4 players are hopefully brilliant, as i've heard on the grapevine other teams might sign players too, not just us.

[brog]

Fair points - but whilst there are a few swings here we need to take into consideration the roundabouts.

We had a relative "new manager bounce" to take into consideration, something that is a fairly distant memory. So far we've started atrociously, picked up a fair bit but then slid back to a fairly worrying level over the past month. The window came at a reasonable time for us, to allow us to pause, take stock and strengthen again.

With the players who will be away on international duty for a bit, it is hard to make any sort of argument that a team that was on the slide is going to do anything other than slide further and faster - unless we bring in reinforcements, the type who are ready to make an impact on our first team straight away. Before anyone says it's too big an ask - I'm suggesting a handful of the likes of Egan-Riley, Jeggo, Omeonga, Docherty, Kamberi, McNulty, Irvine, Efe or McLaren, all of whom joined us during the season and improved us at the time (and that's without going back to the times when we've secured Boyle and Stokes in January).

I agree many of your points and I'm not overly happy with our current position but the fact is we've won more points per game since LJ went than any team bar the current top 3. We're really not in the dire strait that many on here state.

[matty_f]

Agree.

The idea we just give a manager the foreseeable future regardless of what we’re seeing from them is suicidal.

No Hibs manager is ever going to get a squad of players that they’ve built in full themselves. You need to be able to get players that are already here to play well. If you can’t do that, then you’ll fail and you’ll rightly be sacked.

Thankfully there’s absolutely nothing we’ve seen from this Hibs board to suggest a manager is going to be given time for the sake of it.

It’s not as black and white as that. There’s a history of us changing managers and making no significant , sustained progress. We’ve underperformed either side of Jack Ross’ appointment and only really achieved what we should (by budget) a handful of times going back as long as you want to.

You could argue that no manager has been unfairly dismissed and that whatever run of bad form they’re in at the point they’re sacked justifies the action, but I don’t see any argument that categorically shows that emptying a manager at the first sign of bother gives any sort of medium to long term benefit.


There’s just no evidence to support that. That’s not to say that you just blindly give a guy three years irrespective of results, but there definitely needs to be a wider threshold for when time is up, imho. If you are asking managers to come in, steady a sinking ship and then start building better, then it stands to reason that it will take time, and how much time will be impacted by how bad things are when they take over, how big a change is being made, injuries, contracts already in place, budget etc

[Ronniekirk]

Seen an article today saying Doig deal be be falling through What is going on with his Club ffs Shambled if true

[hhibs]

time to kill that DD then as I assumed it was going to the club.



I still pay mine but HSL has been pretty much a damp squib since its inception,confusing many,not marketed well and ,not to forget, the conspiracy BS put our by some who should have known better

[GloryGlory]

Seen an article today saying Doig deal be be falling through What is going on with his Club ffs Shambled if true

I think it is brinkmanship in negotiations. Sassuolo have offered a bigger transfer fee and Verona want that, but Doig wants to go to Marseille and Marseille don't want to up their offer to match Sassuolo. Stalemate all round unless Verona or Marseille change their position.

[Hibs4185]

Seen an article today saying Doig deal be be

falling through What is going on with his Club ffs Shambled if true

They wanted to seek to a higher bidder but JD wanted to go to OM. I think OM set a deadline to complete the deal or they were seeking other options.

Fingers crossed one of the deals happens

[Smartie]

I agree many of your points and I'm not overly happy with our current position but the fact is we've won more points per game since LJ went than any team bar the current top 3. We're really not in the dire strait that many on here state.

I don't think we're in danger of dropping into a Butcher-esque collapse but I do think that's more likely than for the current crop of players and their current manager to somehow mount a credible challenge for third without reinforcements arriving.

Realistically, we're mid-table dross who are capable of playing better and worse than that on occasion when the mood suits us.

What bothers me most is that I quite like Monty but see him as being out of step with our current squad and their capabilities. I hate the managerial merry go round and have no desire to see us rip it up and start again any time soon and I'd like to see him get some players in who will help him play the way he wants to play, even if they are of the sticking plaster variety. He can then be properly backed in the summer if he proves there actually is something to his plan and vision or regrettably hoofed if it's clearly never going to happen for him.

As it stands, whilst I have reservations about the way he wants to play, I think we're about to hang another manager out to dry and that bugs me.

[ancient hibee]

For Hibs what I see as the most prudent way of spending money/making signings is that window of youngsters between 20-25 who have played at least a season of first team football (admittedly probably at a lower level) who have the potential to progress. Nisbet is a perfect example and of course not all are going to be successes.

What concerns me is the constant signing of players (either on loan or permanent) who are in clubs under 20s teams or players who haven’t played more than a handful of first team games. A club the size of Hibs with our expectations can’t be giving players their first appearances in senior football unless they have come through our own ranks (even that seems to have dried up).

I can’t say I know enough about the Scottish championship but there must be a couple of players in there who would be suitable to make the step up just as nisbet, McGinn, Boyle did. I do remember feeling when McGinn and Nisbet joined that for SPFL level they’d be almost guaranteed successes due to their previous appearances/goals etc.

McGinn didn’t step up a level to join us.

[Hibees1973]

It can be a fine line between poor recruitment or is it the manager being unable to get the best out of the current players we have.

What is not in doubt is that changing manager 3 times in three years has not helped. Also, for a couple of years we had a wine seller in charge of the recruitment team.

With these two factors is it any surprise so many players have come and gone in the last couple of years and the current squad is pitiful, no depth and weak.

[JohnM1875]

See that Musa Toure has followed Hibs, Boyle and Whittaker on Instagram. Not sure how recent mind you. But touch of the Vente about it. Though it was his brother who started following Hibs before the signing was confirmed.

[Bridge hibs]

It can be a fine line between poor recruitment or is it the manager being unable to get the best out of the current players we have.

What is not in doubt is that changing manager 3 times in three years has not helped. Also, for a couple of years we had a wine seller in charge of the recruitment team.

With these two factors is it any surprise so many players have come and gone in the last couple of years and the current squad is pitiful, no depth and weak.And to think we could soon have a wine seller part owning our club, burn the witches !

[McD]

time to kill that DD then as I assumed it was going to the club.



Sorry for being the bearer of bad news mate

[Hibees1973]

And to think we could soon have a wine seller part owning our club, burn the witches !

A good owner would appoint and delegate responsibilities to experienced, properly vetted and qualified people. Then leave them alone to get on with it.

This hasn't happened on the football side at Hibs since the Gordon's came through the door.

[McD]

A good owner would appoint and delegate responsibilities to experienced, properly vetted and qualified people. Then leave them alone to get on with it.

This hasn't happened on the football side at Hibs since the Gordon's came through the door.



Brian McDermott?

[Eyrie]

A good owner would appoint and delegate responsibilities to experienced, properly vetted and qualified people. Then leave them alone to get on with it.

This hasn't happened on the football side at Hibs since the Gordon's came through the door.

McDermott?

[Trinity Hibee]

McGinn didn’t step up a level to join us.

He did in terms of club size and expectation which is what I was referring to without explaining. But yes he moved from one championship club to another.

[Heisenberg]

Brian McDermott?

Aye but apart from him 😂

[Ronniekirk]

I think it is brinkmanship in negotiations. Sassuolo have offered a bigger transfer fee and Verona want that, but Doig wants to go to Marseille and Marseille don't want to up their offer to match Sassuolo. Stalemate all round unless Verona or Marseille change their position.
Ah ok but it’s been one of the longest drawn out on off transfers I can remember

[Hibees1973]

McDermott?

Yes, fair enough.Time will tell if he turns into a good DOF for us. Just a shame that pet and vanity projects were handed out for a couple of years prior to him being appointed. A lot of his energy now is to ship out and sort out the mess created previously.

[04Sauzee]

See that Musa Toure has followed Hibs, Boyle and Whittaker on Instagram. Not sure how recent mind you. But touch of the Vente about it. Though it was his brother who started following Hibs before the signing was confirmed.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/musa-toure-hibs-transfer-bid-31878974

[Ronniekirk]

They wanted to seek to a higher bidder but JD wanted to go to OM. I think OM set a deadline to complete the deal or they were seeking other options.

Fingers crossed one of the deals happens
Yep fingers crossed as sounds like we need that cash to do a bit more business in the Transfer window

[JohnM1875]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/musa-toure-hibs-transfer-bid-31878974

Aye, seen that it was mentioned earlier on in this thread. Just think it could mean something following a few players and the club. Whittaker is a weird one

[Lago]

Yep fingers crossed as sounds like we need that cash to do a bit more business in the Transfer window
What business have we done?

[Smartie]

I have a lot of faith in McDermott.

I just hope his remit is clear.

[Bridge hibs]

What business have we done?

Sold Melkerson for a substantial fee

[Hibees1973]

What business have we done?

For new players coming in and reading here. We invited for training some guy who is at Leeds who hasn't played a full 90 mins in three years and some chubby Brazilian who has a penchant allegedly for dressing up in drag. Apart from that, nothing else to report so far.

[Unseen work]

Odd that Delferriere, Boruc and Harbottle haven’t left yet.

Unless of course we’re waiting until we get bodies in.

[cameronw-hfc]

Our development team / u18s according to the club website have 8 players on loan. Probably more as Rueben Mc also at Kelty.

The fixtures show they play between 1 and 3 matches a month.

It’s all very odd and not sure the whole B team experiment has worked (shock).

Will Hibs admit that?

There are 1000s of footballers around the world who could come into our team and improve us but for some reason we seem to struggle to do that.

Do we even have scouts who go abroad anymore ? Dubai trip money could be used to send scouts abroad to look at players which would be far more beneficial than a threadbare squad going to Dubai and losing 5-1 to a team similar to Luzren.

Seems we just look at a computer with a load of stats trying to find players who have high % on certain areas of the game or sellon potential.

What these scouting databases don’t tell you is about character and personality - something this Hibs team is seriously lacking.


Eddie May basically went as far as hinting he didn't agree with Steve Keane and his B team plans in the recent interview with the observer.

I think the B team is a good idea, poor execution.

The kids we have are all talented, but need to play football. Ideally vs adults, but if not, regular weekly competitive fixtures.

I think a few of the young players we have will make us a profit, but I hope to see the system changed from the old method under Keane.

From what I've seen from his interviews, personality and character etc are some of the biggest things Mcdermott is wanting. Probably why it's even harder to get players in this window.

If we signed 2 players already and they didn't work we'd be slated for rushing it, we're not rushing it and we're not doing enough.

I'm happy with BM so far, think Obita, Vente, Levitt etc are all clearly good players that hopefully will come good at Hibs. Aa good DoF will get good players, but even the best sign some duds.

Most of our summer signings have come in and made an impact, they just aren't quite enough. We need a few more and we aren't a club capable of spending huge sums so that will take more time.

[Bridge hibs]

For new players coming in and reading here. We invited for training some guy who is at Leeds who hasn't played a full 90 mins in three years and some chubby Brazilian who has a penchant allegedly for dressing up in drag. Apart from that, nothing else to report so far.

You are making stuff up stuff about the Leeds lad try and at least do some research 🤣

[Heisenberg]

Musa Toure seems like another project signing, hopefully not spending too much on him when the first team needs so much attention.

[HoboHarry]

I have a lot of faith in McDermott.

I just hope his remit is clear.

I'm quite sure his remit is very clear but he will still have a budget to stay within just like every other club our size.

[500miles]

Musa Toure seems like another project signing, hopefully not spending too much on him when the first team needs so much attention.

I'd suggest he someone either we or Monty have been aware of for a while and need to move quickly on before someone else makes a deal with him and his club.

[Hibees1973]

You are making stuff up stuff about the Leeds lad try and at least do some research 🤣

Apologies Bridge. As I said I was reading from here and and some other poster did say he had not played a full 90 mins in three years. My bad. I don't really care to bother analysing some player I have never even heard of.

Was the stuff about the Brazilian correct?

[Bridge hibs]

Apologies Bridge. As I said I was reading from here and and some other poster did say he had not played a full 90 mins in three years. My bad. I don't really care to bother analysing some player I have never even heard of.

Was the stuff about the Brazilian correct?I don't know if the stuff about the Brazilian is true or not as I don't read the daily rags, but who really cares what he does in his own time ? I certainly dont

Also with regards you bothering to analysing potential players, you have plenty to say and criticise the way the club is being run and particularly with regards recruitment so if you are so concerned maybe you should spend some time analysing them as you seem to have spent a fair bit of time analysing our “wine seller” as you constantly go on about him

[Hibees1973]

I don't know if the stuff about the Brazilian is true or not as I don't read the daily rags, but who really cares what he does in his own time ? I certainly dont

Also with regards you bothering to analysing potential players, you have plenty to say and criticise the way the club is being run and particularly with regards recruitment so if you are so concerned maybe you should spend some time analysing them as you seem to have spent a fair bit of time analysing our “wine seller” as you constantly go on about him

Hmm. I'd rather leave analysing and recruitment of players to guys who know what they are doing and what they get paid for. Just a shame we have not really had such people at Hibs for few years. Maybe McDermott is the guy, time will tell.

What I will, as a supporter, is see what these players are like when they come in the door, watch them and give judgements once they have been here for a while. Hibs net is a great platform to discuss our thoughts on these players.

[Victor]

I don't know if the stuff about the Brazilian is true or not as I don't read the daily rags, but who really cares what he does in his own time ? I certainly dont

Also with regards you bothering to analysing potential players, you have plenty to say and criticise the way the club is being run and particularly with regards recruitment so if you are so concerned maybe you should spend some time analysing them as you seem to have spent a fair bit of time analysing our “wine seller” as you constantly go on about him

It’s not worth replying to some posters. If you do you will get another of the misery squad coming on defending their right to post their negative drivel. I have blocked off a number of them, but unfortunately I still see what they are posting if someone replies to them. The sad part is that nearly every topic gets dragged down by their constant sniping.

[Bridge hibs]

Hmm. I'd rather leave analysing and recruitment of players to guys who know what they are doing and what they get paid for. Just a shame we have not really had such people at Hibs for few years. Maybe McDermott is the guy, time will tell.

What I will, as a supporter, is see what these players are like when they come in the door, watch them and give judgements once they have been here for a while. Hibs net is a great platform to discuss our thoughts on these players.No argument from me but I would rather try and do a bit of research on a player and form my own opinion rather than what is said on here or printed in a rag

[Rumble de Thump]

Is Kickback riddled with Hibees pretending to be Jambos?

[Brightside]

Apologies Bridge. As I said I was reading from here and and some other poster did say he had not played a full 90 mins in three years. My bad. I don't really care to bother analysing some player I have never even heard of.

Was the stuff about the Brazilian correct?

Awful posting tbh. “I don’t really care” It’s all a bit GB News.

[Billy Whizz]

Odd that Delferriere, Boruc and Harbottle haven’t left yet.

Unless of course we’re waiting until we get bodies in.

Do we know if they are in Dubai?

[Victor]

I've recently used the ignore option because of posters who are obviously not Hibs ‘Supporters’
I don’t see their posts when quoted so there is maybe adjustments to be done to your settings.

Will have to check that out. Thanks

[ancient hibee]

He did in terms of club size and expectation which is what I was referring to without explaining. But yes he moved from one championship club to another.

Although he had never played at that level as they were only just relegated and he was of course already a League Cup winner.

[#2 Double Tap]

I have a lot of faith in McDermott.

I just hope his remit is clear.



im the exact opposite, but i do hope you are right.

[JohnM1875]

im the exact opposite, but i do hope you are right.

I’m with you.

Didn’t expect us to never sign a project player or player for the future again. But if the outcome of this window is Moore from Leeds and Toure from Adelaide then immediately loaned back to them I think questions need to be asked.

[truehibernian]

Been told that the left sided attacker we are after is definitely Mathew Cudjoe from Dundee Utd.

[JohnM1875]

Been told that the left sided attacker we are after is definitely Mathew Cudjoe from Dundee Utd.

Actually think he’s a player but don’t think he’s a guaranteed starter. Wouldn’t be a priority for me this window

[Dmas]

I’m with you.

Didn’t expect us to never sign a project player or player for the future again. But if the outcome of this window is Moore from Leeds and Toure from Adelaide then immediately loaned back to them I think questions need to be asked.

I agree with what you’re saying, but we always get people wondering why we’ve not got players signed up early in the summer as well,be it pre contract or otherwise I’m quite relieved we’re looking to next season as well if I’m honest although as you say I’d be disappointed if we don’t do more this window as the manager is needing backing here as well

[greenlex]

Been told that the left sided attacker we are after is definitely Mathew Cudjoe from Dundee Utd.

2.5 million in loses so they might not be too hard to deal with.
Doesn’t sort out our obvious deficiencies tho.

[JohnM1875]

I agree with what you’re saying, but we always get people wondering why we’ve not got players signed up early in the summer as well,be it pre contract or otherwise I’m quite relieved we’re looking to next season as well if I’m honest although as you say I’d be disappointed if we don’t do more this window as the manager is needing backing here as well

Get what you’re saying. But given the current state of the squad and league position this window has to be about addressing the current situation, not planning for next season.

[EGL2000]

Been told that the left sided attacker we are after is definitely Mathew Cudjoe from Dundee Utd.

Not lighting it up in the championship wouldn't be bothering. Don't think we are in the position currently to be wasting wages on project signings.

[J-C]

It’s not worth replying to some posters. If you do you will get another of the misery squad coming on defending their right to post their negative drivel. I have blocked off a number of them, but unfortunately I still see what they are posting if someone replies to them. The sad part is that nearly every topic gets dragged down by their constant sniping.


I've recently used the ignore option because of posters who are obviously not Hibs ‘Supporters’
I don’t see their posts when quoted so there is maybe adjustments to be done to your settings.

You see them on your phone if you're on the app rather than desktop site, I don't see them on my laptop though.

[JohnM1875]

Not lighting it up in the championship wouldn't be bothering. Don't think we are in the position currently to be wasting wages on project signings.

Four goals and three assists in 14 games played apparently? Not bad going that

[Lago]

I don't know if the stuff about the Brazilian is true or not as I don't read the daily rags, but who really cares what he does in his own time ? I certainly dont

Also with regards you bothering to analysing potential players, you have plenty to say and criticise the way the club is being run and particularly with regards recruitment so if you are so concerned maybe you should spend some time analysing them as you seem to have spent a fair bit of time analysing our “wine seller” as you constantly go on about him
Well said

[Heisenberg]

Cudjoe can’t get into a rank rotten Dundee United team. If he’s meant to be coming into our squad and making an immediate impact I’d be very surprised.

[truehibernian]

Not lighting it up in the championship wouldn't be bothering. Don't think we are in the position currently to be wasting wages on project signings.

I think we are crying out for experienced players but I think he’s a tremendous prospect and wouldn’t consider him a project. I do think we need a bruiser in midfield and an athletic left sided centre half though. Difficult window to get them though (as in experienced players).

[Victor]

You see them on your phone if you're on the app rather than desktop site, I don't see them on my laptop though.

That will explain it. I view through Tapatalk, so I unfortunately see replies.

[JohnM1875]

Cudjoe can’t get into a rank rotten Dundee United team. If he’s meant to be coming into our squad and making an immediate impact I’d be very surprised.

I wouldn’t look too much into how good a player is in a team managed by Jim Goodwin.

[04Sauzee]

Been told that the left sided attacker we are after is definitely Mathew Cudjoe from Dundee Utd.

Sure he plays mainly on the right for Dundee Utd? I know he has and can play on the left lm just wonder wonder where he is beat suited?

Not sure what he's like in a 4.

Who mentioned it to you btw?

[bingo70]

Been told that the left sided attacker we are after is definitely Mathew Cudjoe from Dundee Utd.

He’s not one to get overly excited about and my Dundee Utd mate doesn’t rate him too highly, that said, he’s only just turned 20 years old and it’s worth remembering that.

I suspect the guy has something about him, if that’s enough to be a success at Hibs I’ll need to let other more qualified people than me judge. I wouldn’t rule him out because of his form for Dundee Utd though.

[truehibernian]

Cudjoe can’t get into a rank rotten Dundee United team. If he’s meant to be coming into our squad and making an immediate impact I’d be very surprised.

Might be down to his contract and not signing a new one.

[JimBHibees]

Watched the Monty interview got the impression it was very much stalling chat until hopefully the Foley move comes through.

[B.H.F.C]

Looks like Cudjoe started the season quite well then faded. 4 goals and 3 assists in the league but that’s with only playing 599 minutes.

No particularly sure it’s the type of player we need to be signing but it’s the type of player I can see us signing.

[truehibernian]

Looks like Cudjoe started the season quite well then faded. 4 goals and 3 assists in the league but that’s with only playing 599 minutes.

No particularly sure it’s the type of player we need to be signing but it’s the type of player I can see us signing.

Coincides with Utd wanting him to extend his contract and the player not committing (my reading of it). For me we desperately need a Bartley type in midfield and the left side of defence sorted first, but with Campbell out it’ll probably be astute to get an attacking midfielder in.

[truehibernian]

Sure he plays mainly on the right for Dundee Utd? I know he has and can play on the left lm just wonder wonder where he is beat suited?

Not sure what he's like in a 4.

Who mentioned it to you btw?

Someone who works at the club mate. I posted months ago we were keen on him but apparently it’s very firm interest now.

[EGL2000]

I think we are crying out for experienced players but I think he’s a tremendous prospect and wouldn’t consider him a project. I do think we need a bruiser in midfield and an athletic left sided centre half though. Difficult window to get them though (as in experienced players).

Just seems a very meh signing have a few pals who are Dundee united pals and don't think he's anything special.

[JohnM1875]

Just seems a very meh signing have a few pals who are Dundee united pals and don't think he's anything special.

Weird that, pretty much every Dundee United fan was jizzing about him when they were in the Prem last year. Remember him playing well against us at ER

[Unseen work]

Cudjoe is out of contract in the summer, don’t think we’d be due them compensation either as they only signed him 18 months ago.

I watched a bit of the United game the other night and it was brutal - he never even got on.

Going by United fans on Twitter they wouldn’t be bothered if he left

[Callum_62]

https://ghanasoccernet.com/scottish-top-flight-side-hibernian-pushing-to-sign-dundee-uniteds-mathew-cudjoe?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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[Callum_62]

Who's behind Mckirdy there?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240114/8b579a82d15d1cc568ef387fc58d923f.jpg

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[Trinity Hibee]

who's behind mckirdy there?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240114/8b579a82d15d1cc568ef387fc58d923f.jpg

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alf?

[Callum_62]

alf?Doesn't he have a shaved head now?



I think that's kris Moore far right of that full photo

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[Heisenberg]

Cudjoe is out of contract in the summer, don’t think we’d be due them compensation either as they only signed him 18 months ago.

I watched a bit of the United game the other night and it was brutal - he never even got on.

Going by United fans on Twitter they wouldn’t be bothered if he left

I’d hope it could turn into a Boyle move and he turns into a key player but I just don’t see him coming in and being a better option than what we’ve got.

[Unseen work]

Doesn't he have a shaved head now?

I think that's kris Moore far right of that full photo

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100% ALF in the original photo. Moore is the one on the right you posted yeah.

He got a hair transplant in the summer hence the short hair for a while.

Looks 10 years younger with the new Barnet!

[Callum_62]

100% ALF in the original photo. Moore is the one on the right you posted yeah.

He got a hair transplant in the summer hence the short hair for a while.

Looks 10 years younger with the new Barnet!Looks way longer than yesterday [emoji23]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240114/079b502000ffb9d0c0b98dbc856d5abe.jpg



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[CapitalGreen]

Who's behind Mckirdy there?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240114/8b579a82d15d1cc568ef387fc58d923f.jpg

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That’s definitely ALF.

Who is the goalie though?

27584

[SteveHFC]

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alf?

[Callum_62]

That’s definitely ALF.

Who is the goalie though?

27584Not sure but 2 things stand out

1. He needs the same hair surgeon as ALF
2. His hands are like shovels.

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[truehibernian]

Not sure but 2 things stand out

1. He needs the same hair surgeon as ALF
2. His hands are like shovels.

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Could be Klinsmann

[bingo70]

Could be Klinsmann

Pretty sure it’s not, just checked and Klinnsman wears Adidas goalie gloves (also doesn’t look like the guy)

[cubehindthegoal]

Looks like Cudjoe started the season quite well then faded. 4 goals and 3 assists in the league but that’s with only playing 599 minutes.

No particularly sure it’s the type of player we need to be signing but it’s the type of player I can see us signing.

So 599 mins is less than seven full ninety minutes in total .. so he averages more than one assist or goal per game based on time played …

[greenlex]

So 599 mins is less than seven full ninety minutes in total .. so he averages more than one assist or goal per game based on time played …

…….in the championship for the team with the biggest budget.

Might turn into a Boyle type signing. We would never know without taking the chance.

[neil7908]

Cudjoe is out of contract in the summer, don’t think we’d be due them compensation either as they only signed him 18 months ago.

I watched a bit of the United game the other night and it was brutal - he never even got on.

Going by United fans on Twitter they wouldn’t be bothered if he left

That doesn't sound particularly promising. Appreciate he could be a diamond in the rough but I, like many others on here, feel we desperately need players who will be first picks and push us on as soon as they come in.

Yes that's not easy but we have a lot of ground to make up if we want to qualify for Europe.

I have no issue with signing guys like Toure and Cudjoe but they should be in addition to rather than instead of experienced players to kick us on.

[04Sauzee]

So 599 mins is less than seven full ninety minutes in total .. so he averages more than one assist or goal per game based on time played …

His stats for the season

https://i.ibb.co/nMYXDj8/Screenshot-2024-01-14-20-04-11-93-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg (https://ibb.co/nMYXDj8)

[bingo70]

That’s definitely ALF.

Who is the goalie though?

27584

Anybody able to identify the goalie glove brand? Should be quite easy to find out who the goalie is if the brand can’t be worked out.

[CapitalGreen]

…….in the championship for the team with the biggest budget.

Might turn into a Boyle type signing. We would never know without taking the chance.

At 19 years old.

[Springbank]

Purely personal opinion

The squad NM has inherited is not well suited to 4-4-2

If that's what we are stuck with as the one sole tactic for the season, then he needs an all-rounder midfielder, with experience, ready to start, to accompany Newell (as I like Jeggo, and Levitt could be a 10, but those boys ONLY suit a three man midfield and are no use in a 4-4-2 formation).

Similarly, there is pressure on the central defenders in a 442, and we need someone there, who is a Findlay-type, ready to start and be reasonable in SPFL standard.

If NM doesn't;t get these signings, then he needs to change from 442 (imo) and he'll be entitled to ask questions of the board, as he's clearly a 442 man.

[Bridge hibs]

Anybody able to identify the goalie glove brand? Should be quite easy to find out who the goalie is if the brand can’t be worked out.Mauritania goalkeeper Babacar Niasse (27).- Born in Senegal, Niasse started football as an attacking midfielder, but changed to a goalkeeper.- Known for his exceptional height. He stands at 1.95m (6 ft 5 in) tall.- He was the goalkeeper for the Senegal U17 at the 2011 African U-17 Championship.- He was called up to represent Mauritania in March 2022. 2758527586

[Bad Habits]

Could be Klinsmann

Think it is!

Same lugs

[CapitalGreen]

Think it is!

Same lugs

Klinsmann is signed to Adidas, that lad is wearing Nike boots and some random brand gloves.

[Smartie]

Purely personal opinion

The squad NM has inherited is not well suited to 4-4-2

If that's what we are stuck with as the one sole tactic for the season, then he needs an all-rounder midfielder, with experience, ready to start, to accompany Newell (as I like Jeggo, and Levitt could be a 10, but those boys ONLY suit a three man midfield and are no use in a 4-4-2 formation).

Similarly, there is pressure on the central defenders in a 442, and we need someone there, who is a Findlay-type, ready to start and be reasonable in SPFL standard.

If NM doesn't;t get these signings, then he needs to change from 442 (imo) and he'll be entitled to ask questions of the board, as he's clearly a 442 man.

I expect your opinion would be shared by a majority of our fans tbh, several good points.