Winter transfer thread 2023/24

[Bobby's Cinema]

Mfk Vyskov
A bit out of left field. Interestingly - or maybe not - "On 15 January 2024, the club announced their new owner American investment group Blue Crow Sports Group"

[HoboHarry]

Delferrière away on loan to Czech Republic
Wish him well in his new venture and hopefully he has a successful future career, I'd be surprised if we ever see him back at Hibs.

[GloryGlory]

Mfk Vyskov

Just been bought by an American consortium who also own Leganes in Spain, according to Wiki. (not the Black Knight Group). It'll never catch on.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MFK_Vy%C5%A1kov

[Stuart93]

Delferrière away on loan to Czech Republic

Gave him a long term contract not long ago.

The decision making at the club the past few years has been horrendous. Let’s hope whoever was making they decisions aren’t anymore

[Aldo]

Gave him a long term contract not long ago.

The decision making at the club the past few years has been horrendous. Let’s hope whoever was making they decisions aren’t anymore

Option to buy for six figure sum if it’s successful.

[AlbertK86]

Gave him a long term contract not long ago.

The decision making at the club the past few years has been horrendous. Let’s hope whoever was making they decisions aren’t anymore

Might not have got the six figure fee agreed if he hadn’t [emoji2375]


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[King Cosell]

Gave him a long term contract not long ago.

The decision making at the club the past few years has been horrendous. Let’s hope whoever was making they decisions aren’t anymore

It's not a Hibs thing. Aberdeen, Chelsea, Huddersfield, Charlton Ath, ect. Pick a random club and look into their transfer activity over the last few seasons.

[Stuart93]

Option to buy for six figure sum if it’s successful.

We’re probably only recouping our losses on him

[RMQ1967]

I agree he’s still very early in his career, I actually think he’ll have a decent career as a defensive midfielder.

I just don’t see him improving that much technically to be a regular starter for us. I think as a fan base we always demand someone good on the ball in that position, even the guys of Bartley and Fyvie were called out or wanted out of the team in certain games.

It was the first game I saw him pre season I was genuinely surprised by how uncomfortable he looked on the ball, then there was the fresh air swipe against Celtic where he looked terrified

I watched him when Shrewsbury played in the televised cup game a couple of weeks ago. Just seemed to float around with no real drive or desire to get himself involved. The one straightforward pass I did see him attempt went nowhere near it's intended target.

Completely unconvincing and the kind of lethargic, low energy performance that makes me think he should be nowhere near Hibs in future.

[Centre Hawf]

Gave him a long term contract not long ago.

The decision making at the club the past few years has been horrendous. Let’s hope whoever was making they decisions aren’t anymore

What if we make a decent profit on him because of the 3 year deal? Would that then be a good decision and we should hope they are here still?

[Hibernian Verse]

We’re probably only recouping our losses on him

It's not really that probable, as none of us know how much he has cost. You're just assuming worst case scenario.

You were chirpy yesterday and this morning, I like chirpy Stuart93.

[Hibby Bairn]

Gave him a long term contract not long ago.

The decision making at the club the past few years has been horrendous. Let’s hope whoever was making they decisions aren’t anymore

Unfortunately they have to make decisions at the time. Fans always have the benefit of hindsight. It's not an exact science. Some you get right. Some don't go the way you hoped.

[Franck Stanton]

Anyone know the situation with Amos? Been with us long enough to establish if his fitness levels are ok/ up to scratch.

[WhileTheChief..]

What if we make a decent profit on him because of the 3 year deal? Would that then be a good decision and we should hope they are here still?

No.

This is something that I've wondered about, and criticise the club for.

It appears that the club ( I actually think Ben Kendall) would absolutely consider signing someone and selling them for a profit a success, whether or not the player ever kicked a ball for us.

I don't see it that way at all. If we sign players that rarely / never play for us, for whatever reason, then they haven't been a success.

If we're measuring success on how much money a player brings in, as against what he does on the pitch, we're screwed.

[Hibbyradge]

We’re probably only recouping our losses on him

You don't know that.

We got £1m for Melkerson.

[greenlex]

Calm down, signing these two players doesn't exonerate the club's signing history over the past few years, does it?

Maybe there are some of of us who feel they have sat back and let the evidence unfold already and that's why there is discontent. You can clap your self happy all you want, I'll wait and see how these guys perform before getting over stimulated by them. Great signings on paper but there are provisos, including either not having played any/much football in recent times.

You should probably also learn to try and reconcile yourself to the fact that you can be unhappy with the state of the football team without having an agenda against the club.
It’s been acknowledged by the club that the signing strategy was wrong and they were going to change it. Too many up and comings and not enough experience. I don’t think carrying on and not acknowledging that is particularly healthy. It’s certainly set us back a bit and cost us a few Bob but Personally I hope signing the odd project isn’t abandoned all together .

[HoboHarry]

No.

This is something that I've wondered about, and criticise the club for.

It appears that the club ( I actually think Ben Kendall) would absolutely consider signing someone and selling them for a profit a success, whether or not the player ever kicked a ball for us.

I don't see it that way at all. If we sign players that rarely / never play for us, for whatever reason, then they haven't been a success.

If we're measuring success on how much money a player brings in, as against what he does on the pitch, we're screwed.
There isn't a club anywhere that would knock back an opportunity to buy a player then sell him at a profit regardless of how good or bad he was. I'm going to hazard a guess that you aren't a businessman.

[Brightside]

I think I've just read that if we sign player and sell them for a profit that is not a sign of success. :greengrin

Personally, Delf is an average player and probably would have had a future with us prior to the new investment. Looks like we may be changing our shopping centre from Asda to Waitrose now.

[HoboHarry]

I think I've just read that if we sign player and sell them for a profit that is not a sign of success. :greengrin

Personally, Delf is an average player and probably would have had a future with us prior to the new investment. Looks like we may be changing our shopping centre from Asda to Waitrose now.
Had to read the post a couple of times to be sure I wasn't going mad. :greengrin

[Stuart93]

I think I've just read that if we sign player and sell them for a profit that is not a sign of success. :greengrin

Personally, Delf is an average player and probably would have had a future with us prior to the new investment. Looks like we may be changing our shopping centre from Asda to Waitrose now.

You’re assuming we’re going to be making a profit though?

Just as I’ve assumed the deal isn’t going to see us making profit. Nobody really knows in truth.

Just don’t see a player signing a new 3 year deal then being loaned out with an option to buy as good business as it suggests we never really wanted him anyway. fwiw he was never up to it and a new contract was a bizarre decision imo when we were looking to get rid of deadwood

[Stuart93]

It's not really that probable, as none of us know how much he has cost. You're just assuming worst case scenario.

You were chirpy yesterday and this morning, I like chirpy Stuart93.

I’ve had a bad later morning into early afternoon so I’m grumpy this evening.

A signing will make me feel better 😁

[worcesterhibby]

I think I've just read that if we sign player and sell them for a profit that is not a sign of success. :greengrin

Personally, Delf is an average player and probably would have had a future with us prior to the new investment. Looks like we may be changing our shopping centre from Asda to Waitrose now.

Delf was from Farmfoods :greengrin

[The Modfather]

I think I've just read that if we sign player and sell them for a profit that is not a sign of success. :greengrin

Personally, Delf is an average player and probably would have had a future with us prior to the new investment. Looks like we may be changing our shopping centre from Asda to Waitrose now.

Was Melkerson a successful signing? Made a profit on him, but he made no impact on the first team. A successful signing financially but a very poor signing football wise. We paid a good fee for him in the January window, but he made no impact and we finished bottom 6. Was then loaned out for the rest of his time here.

[GreenPJ]

Playing for a national u17 team doesnt tell you too much about how a players career will go though. The England u17 team of 2017 won the World Cup. They had players who have went to the top - Foden, Sancho, Hudson -Odoi. They also have guys from the team now playing league 2 and National League.....

It tells you that they had enough technical/physical ability to get in the team in the first place - we also know it can all go wrong quickly with teenagers once a little bit of fame and cash comes their way. My main point was we has Hibs fans saw him in his first 15 games of men's first team football. For any teenage (with or without the U17 background) is quite a short timeframe to write someone off.

[GreenPJ]

We’re probably only recouping our losses on him

Which is probably a lot more than we do/have done on lots of other players that have left us. And by losses you mean wages as I don't think he cost us anything?

[VoltaireHibs]

You’re assuming we’re going to be making a profit though?

Just as I’ve assumed the deal isn’t going to see us making profit. Nobody really knows in truth.

Just don’t see a player signing a new 3 year deal then being loaned out with an option to buy as good business as it suggests we never really wanted him anyway. fwiw he was never up to it and a new contract was a bizarre decision imo when we were looking to get rid of deadwood


The difference being that the folk saying we may make a profit aren't posting and arguing about it and using it as a stick to beat Hibs with. That's all your doing.

Sorry you're having a bad afternoon but honestly, maybe better stay off Hibs.net if you just come on to have a pop to make yourself feel better.

[MKHIBEE]

I think the consensus is that the previous recruitment model wasn’t producing enough players of the required quality to
Improve us as a team. We are now in the process of moving some of them on. Melkerson was a good piece if business , others who leave will free up wages for, hopefully, better players. Our signings this window, NM’s first, seem to be pointing towards an improvement in the quality of players we sign. Hopefully the upward trend continues.

[Centre Hawf]

No.

This is something that I've wondered about, and criticise the club for.

It appears that the club ( I actually think Ben Kendall) would absolutely consider signing someone and selling them for a profit a success, whether or not the player ever kicked a ball for us.

I don't see it that way at all. If we sign players that rarely / never play for us, for whatever reason, then they haven't been a success.

If we're measuring success on how much money a player brings in, as against what he does on the pitch, we're screwed.

I wouldn't exactly go around calling the players a success at Hibs in this scenario, same as Melkersen didn't cut it at Hibs he wasn't a success. But the decision to sign either of them weren't inherently bad ones at the time due to a level of potential that it seems like a few other clubs in the game agree they have due to their suitors even after not working out at us (assuming Delf does sign properly for them).

My initial question was 'would it be a good decision?' when discussing the new contract and we get our money back, or better making a profit, from a situation that didn't materialise the way we wanted initially? That, whatever way you look at it, is incredible work/business to mitigate our losses to the point of financial gains.

Ben Kensall doesn't coach these players to be the best they can be, nor does he go identify them to sign. But if he can fix it so that we can get the most amount of money back for any duds our managers/DOFs/etc have signed or will do in future then he is doing his job perfectly well.

[Franck Stanton]

Anyone know the situation with Amos? Been with us long enough to establish if his fitness levels are ok/ up to scratch.

I'll take that as a no then.

[04Sauzee]

Stil a lot of chat about Jason Kerr amongst Hibs fans on Twitter. Really can't see it, am I right thinking he's a RCB and mostly played in a 3 at the back.

[WhileTheChief..]

I wouldn't exactly go around calling the players a success at Hibs in this scenario, same as Melkersen didn't cut it at Hibs he wasn't a success. But the decision to sign either of them weren't inherently bad ones at the time due to a level of potential that it seems like a few other clubs in the game agree they have due to their suitors even after not working out at us (assuming Delf does sign properly for them).

My initial question was 'would it be a good decision?' when discussing the new contract and we get our money back, or better making a profit, from a situation that didn't materialise the way we wanted initially? That, whatever way you look at it, is incredible work/business to mitigate our losses to the point of financial gains.

Ben Kensall doesn't coach these players to be the best they can be, nor does he go identify them to sign. But if he can fix it so that we can get the most amount of money back for any duds our managers/DOFs/etc have signed or will do in future then he is doing his job perfectly well.

Ok, sorry I maybe misunderstood the point.

On the point I made, think it goes without saying that making a profit is obviously a good thing. My issue is that if we are only signing players to make money at the expense of seeing an improvement on the pitch, I think that would suck.

In fairness, there's only been 2 posters that couldn't understand that.

[Centre Hawf]

Ok, sorry I maybe misunderstood the point.

On the point I made, think it goes without saying that making a profit is obviously a good thing. My issue is that if we are only signing players to make money at the expense of seeing an improvement on the pitch, I think that would suck.

In fairness, there's only been 2 posters that couldn't understand that.

I think you're right that if we were only signing players to make money then there would be huge question marks over that. The ideal scenario is that they make the club brilliant money because the players we bought and sold on were brilliant on the park and brought success to the club in some way. I get the impression that is something we're perhaps regaining sight of a bit as opposed to maybe what we were doing 2 years ago.

[Heisenberg]

Stil a lot of chat about Jason Kerr amongst Hibs fans on Twitter. Really can't see it, am I right thinking he's a RCB and mostly played in a 3 at the back.

He’s back on the bench for Wigan tonight. Keeping him fit is obviously the massive concern and we’ve been burned before on that front but he seems a good character, achieved a lot with St J and could give us a better option than Rocky when Fish is gone in the summer. I’d say he’s certainly worth asking about on a pre contract.

[King Cosell]

Stil a lot of chat about Jason Kerr amongst Hibs fans on Twitter. Really can't see it, am I right thinking he's a RCB and mostly played in a 3 at the back.

He's been thanking the Wigan medical staff after being out for over 400 days. He's contributed next to nothing, unless Wigan want to get rid, I can't see him signing a pre-contract with us a leaving for free in the summer.

[Brightside]

You’re assuming we’re going to be making a profit though?

Just as I’ve assumed the deal isn’t going to see us making profit. Nobody really knows in truth.

Just don’t see a player signing a new 3 year deal then being loaned out with an option to buy as good business as it suggests we never really wanted him anyway. fwiw he was never up to it and a new contract was a bizarre decision imo when we were looking to get rid of deadwood

Im not assuming anything. Someone said making a profit doesn't make it successful. Im not really fussed about the player.

[Unseen work]

Get a LCB in now and then get Kerr in the summer when he proves his fitness and Fish’ loan expires.

[Since452]

What we need now is another striker.

[CapitalGreen]

MacIntyre and Kerr both on the bench for their respective clubs tonight.

[bingo70]

MacIntyre and Kerr both on the bench for their respective clubs tonight.

Tin hat firmly on and I know I’m in the minority of 1 by the looks of it but I hope we don’t sign Kerr.

If he was ask good as people are making out, he’d get back in the Eigan team now he’s fit again.

If he’s out of contract in the summer, he’s maybe someone I’d like us to take a look at then but not now.

[truehibernian]

Get a LCB in now and then get Kerr in the summer when he proves his fitness and Fish’ loan expires.

Think JK’s contract is up soon but he’s currently on £15K a week at Wigan so he’d need to take a substantial hit contract wise to come to us. My mate is a family member of his and there’s been no contact from Hibs about him.

[B.H.F.C]

Tin hat firmly on and I know I’m in the minority of 1 by the looks of it but I hope we don’t sign Kerr.

If he was ask good as people are making out, he’d get back in the Eigan team now he’s fit again.

If he’s out of contract in the summer, he’s maybe someone I’d like us to take a look at then but not now.

Can’t say I’m overly fussed for him either.

Had that unbelievable season at St Johnstone where it just all worked for them all but none of them have really went on to better things individually.

[CapitalGreen]

Tin hat firmly on and I know I’m in the minority of 1 by the looks of it but I hope we don’t sign Kerr.

If he was ask good as people are making out, he’d get back in the Eigan team now he’s fit again.

If he’s out of contract in the summer, he’s maybe someone I’d like us to take a look at then but not now.

I’m with you but not in regards his ability to defend but in his ability to stay fit.

If he wasn’t a Hibs fan there wouldn’t be such a clamour to sign him.

[Unseen work]

Think JK’s contract is up soon but he’s currently on £15K a week at Wigan so he’d need to take a substantial hit contract wise to come to us. My mate is a family member of his and there’s been no contact from Hibs about him.

Tbf I’m not sure he’ll get anywhere close to 15k per week once his contract is up at any team. He’s got some agent to get 15k pw in the first instance considering he came from St Johnstone where he presumably wasn’t getting much

Injured a lot lately and not sure how great he’s been at Wigan.

I really like him so hopefully we make contact soon if he stays fit!

[bingo70]

Can’t say I’m overly fussed for him either.

Had that unbelievable season at St Johnstone where it just all worked for them all but none of them have really went on to better things individually.

I really liked the guy Ali McCann, I always hoped he wouldn’t settle at Preston but he’s done well with them and just signed a new deal I think. IMO he was the star of that St Johnstone team. Was criminal what they sold him for.

Where’s the guy McCart playing now? Thought he was absolutely hopeless, could never understand why we tried so hard to get him at the time.

[badabing67]

I really liked the guy Ali McCann, I always hoped he wouldn’t settle at Preston but he’s done well with them and just signed a new deal I think. IMO he was the star of that St Johnstone team. Was criminal what they sold him for.

Where’s the guy McCart playing now? Thought he was absolutely hopeless, could never understand why we tried so hard to get him at the time.

Ali McCann another Hibee that slipped through the net.

[truehibernian]

Tbf I’m not sure he’ll get anywhere close to 15k per week once his contract is up at any team. He’s got some agent to get 15k pw in the first instance considering he came from St Johnstone where he presumably wasn’t getting much

Injured a lot lately and not sure how great he’s been at Wigan.

I really like him so hopefully we make contact soon if he stays fit!

That’s what he’s earning buddy - and he’ll have options too.

[dalkeith stu]

Stil a lot of chat about Jason Kerr amongst Hibs fans on Twitter. Really can't see it, am I right thinking he's a RCB and mostly played in a 3 at the back.

Apparently Aberdeen have made an offer for him but he has said he'd only come back up the road for Hibs

[Joe6-2]

I'll take that as a no then.

Thought someone would know something 🤷*♂️

[Saint Hibee]

On the topic of former St Johnstone centre-backs, how’s Shaun Rooney doing? He always seemed to look quality against us.

[Unseen work]

That’s what he’s earning buddy - and he’ll have options too.

Yeah not doubting you mate 👍🏻

Just saying I’d be surprised if he was still being offered 15k after his injuries the past couple of years. He’ll undoubtedly have a lot of options however, good player!

[bingo70]

Ali McCann another Hibee that slipped through the net.

You sure? He’s from Northern Ireland isn’t he?

[LaMotta]

It tells you that they had enough technical/physical ability to get in the team in the first place - we also know it can all go wrong quickly with teenagers once a little bit of fame and cash comes their way. My main point was we has Hibs fans saw him in his first 15 games of men's first team football. For any teenage (with or without the U17 background) is quite a short timeframe to write someone off.

I honestly think I've seen enough to do so with Hibs - but as usual time will tell.:greengrin

[Brightside]

Tin hat firmly on and I know I’m in the minority of 1 by the looks of it but I hope we don’t sign Kerr.

If he was ask good as people are making out, he’d get back in the Eigan team now he’s fit again.

If he’s out of contract in the summer, he’s maybe someone I’d like us to take a look at then but not now.

I agree. I'd go all out for Macintyre tho.

[BoomtownHibees]

On the topic of former St Johnstone centre-backs, how’s Shaun Rooney doing? He always seemed to look quality against us.

He was a right back but think it was only ever us he looked good against

Currently at Fleetwood

[truehibernian]

Apparently Aberdeen have made an offer for him but he has said he'd only come back up the road for Hibs

I don’t think he’s had any offers from up here mate - certainly not from Aberdeen.

[Rick Rude]

You sure? He’s from Northern Ireland isn’t he?

Dunno about his team but think he was born in Edinburgh although plays for Northern Ireland.

[Brightside]

I don’t think he’s had any offers from up here mate - certainly not from Aberdeen.

wrexham the only team to have shown solid interest?

[CapitalGreen]

You sure? He’s from Northern Ireland isn’t he?

He’s from Edinburgh, used to play for Hutchie.

[King Cosell]

Think JK’s contract is up soon but he’s currently on £15K a week at Wigan so he’d need to take a substantial hit contract wise to come to us. My mate is a family member of his and there’s been no contact from Hibs about him.

He'll take a substantial hit if he stays there. When they signed him in 2021, they'd just finished 20th in League One, their wage bill for 2021/22 was £13m, 157% of turnover. If the 15k figure is correct, a new deal would be less than a third of that.

[truehibernian]

wrexham the only team to have shown solid interest?

Not sure bud, I’ll ask tomorrow at the game - my mate and JK were on holiday together last year and although Hibs would be his ideal destination there’s been no offers from Scotland as of this week when we were chatting about him. Didn’t mention Wrexham either. I’ll also get the latest on the Foley situation - I know you said our bid wasn’t formalised yet but I’d been told otherwise so hopefully get a wee latest scoop tomorrow night 👍 definitely want Cudjoe from United though, I’m quite surprised there’s been no movement on that one or any media on it.

[badabing67]

You sure? He’s from Northern Ireland isn’t he?


He is not from Northern Ireland he is from Edinburgh I think he went to STJ from Hutchy

[truehibernian]

He'll take a substantial hit if he stays there. When they signed him in 2021, they'd just finished 20th in League One, their wage bill for 2021/22 was £13m, 157% of turnover. If the 15k figure is correct, a new deal would be less than a third of that.

Don’t disagree KC but the money on offer down south is way above our level and JK will have options down there on near enough same money but shorter deal.

[Smartie]

Kerr is everything we’re looking for imo.

His good wage at his current club will reflect his standing when he left Saints, which was sadly a good bit higher than our level, but his injury record at Wigan might reduce that somewhat.

Do we want to take a risk on someone with a bad recent injury and no track record of having fully recovered from that injury? Dunno, but such risks are sometimes how you land such a good player or alternatively spend huge chunks of your budget to contribute nowt on the pitch as they’re attached to the treatment table.

A first pick RCB and leader is something we could really be doing with finding imo, and they don’t grow on trees.

[Hibbyradge]

Think JK’s contract is up soon but he’s currently on £15K a week at Wigan so he’d need to take a substantial hit contract wise to come to us. My mate is a family member of his and there’s been no contact from Hibs about him.

Your mate is mistaken.

[truehibernian]

Your mate is mistaken.

Not going to argue but he’s really not 😂👍

[Hibbyradge]

Not going to argue but he’s really not 😂👍

His mate, who posts on here, spoke to him this morning.

He said there had been contact from Aberdeen, Wrexham and Hibs.

[badabing67]

Dundee 2 up BTW

[truehibernian]

His mate, who posts on here, spoke to him this morning.

He said there had been contact from Aberdeen, Wrexham and Hibs.

As I said, according to his family member mate of mine, there’s been no offers from Scotland. Certainly no offers from Hibs HR. I’ll find out tomorrow again though 👍

[aljo7-0]

He is not from Northern Ireland he is from Edinburgh I think he went to STJ from Hutchy
His Dad is from Northern Ireland, hence him playing for them. He grew up in Edinburgh and was a Hibs fan as a boy. His younger brother Lewis plays for Dunfermline and was also a Hibs fan. His older brother Ross plays rugby for a living and is in the Scotland 6 nations squad. Believe it or not his youngest brother is still at school but on St Johnstones books

[Eyrie]

Dundee 2 up BTW

You're Kidding?

[J-C]

Too many going on about wasted money on Delferriere, Kenneh, Johnson etc, we've always taken punts on players, instead we've looked further afield here. Local guys like Tait, Mackay etc were also punts but haven't worked, tell me how many real punts over the last 25-20 yrs have worked out, not many.

[HoboHarry]

You're Kidding?
Al bert money he isn't....

[sorrow sorrow]

👀 🖊️

[Hibbyradge]

As I said, according to his family member mate of mine, there’s been no offers from Scotland. Certainly no offers from Hibs HR. I’ll find out tomorrow again though 👍

👍

[JimBHibees]

👀 🖊️

Where this?

[sorrow sorrow]

Where this?
Centre half already mentioned in this thread,jk.
only passing on what I was told

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Centre half already mentioned in this thread,jk.
only passing on what I was told

The guy that’s actually on the bench for another team tonight? Sound.

[sorrow sorrow]

The guy that’s actually on the bench for another team tonight? Sound.
Yep that’s the one

[BoomtownHibees]

Motherwell have signed Sam Nicholson

[Crunchie]

Motherwell have signed Sam Nicholson
The ball grabber :greengrin

[hibsforeurope]

The guy that’s actually on the bench for another team tonight? Sound.

Gona be a late one for admin, 3 hours from DW to Easter Road.

[B.H.F.C]

The guy that’s actually on the bench for another team tonight? Sound.

To be fair, Marcondes was on the bench for Bournemouth the night before he signed for us.

[sorrow sorrow]

The guy that’s actually on the bench for another team tonight? Sound.
Marcondes on the bench for Bournemouth Sunday signs for hibs Monday,sound

[Bridge hibs]

The guy that’s actually on the bench for another team tonight? Sound.

We signed a guy that was on the bench for Bournemouth on Sunday

[greenlex]

I think pedantics post refers to him signing tonight.

[ElginHibbie]

I think pedantics post refers to him signing tonight.

More like pen-dantics posting, am I right?

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I think pedantics post refers to him signing tonight.

That’s what I was meaning.

[Bridge hibs]

I think pedantics post refers to him signing tonight.

The op didnt mention tonight, he just said he is signing

[Mcbizz1998]

His Dad is from Northern Ireland, hence him playing for them. He grew up in Edinburgh and was a Hibs fan as a boy. His younger brother Lewis plays for Dunfermline and was also a Hibs fan. His older brother Ross plays rugby for a living and is in the Scotland 6 nations squad. Believe it or not his youngest brother is still at school but on St Johnstones books

There’s no Ross Kerr in the 6 nations squad, in fact, I’ve never heard of him.

[stantonhibby]

There’s no Ross Kerr in the 6 nations squad, in fact, I’ve never heard of him.

Ross McCann

[badabing67]

There’s no Ross Kerr in the 6 nations squad, in fact, I’ve never heard of him.

Ross McCann

[Mcbizz1998]

Ross McCann

Ah, my bad! The lad who was called up in Darcy Grahams place? Interesting.

[brog]

His Dad is from Northern Ireland, hence him playing for them. He grew up in Edinburgh and was a Hibs fan as a boy. His younger brother Lewis plays for Dunfermline and was also a Hibs fan. His older brother Ross plays rugby for a living and is in the Scotland 6 nations squad. Believe it or not his youngest brother is still at school but on St Johnstones books
I like Lewis and I believe we were keeping tabs on him. Seems to have gone off boil a bit recently though.

[JimBHibees]

I like Lewis and I believe we were keeping tabs on him. Seems to have gone off boil a bit recently though.

Yes looked good at the start of the season. Fair to say Pars have dipped also

[superfurryhibby]

Not going to argue but he’s really not 😂👍
You should read the PM forum
:greengrin

In fact youall don’t know what your missing :na na:

[WhileTheChief..]

I think you're right that if we were only signing players to make money then there would be huge question marks over that. The ideal scenario is that they make the club brilliant money because the players we bought and sold on were brilliant on the park and brought success to the club in some way. I get the impression that is something we're perhaps regaining sight of a bit as opposed to maybe what we were doing 2 years ago.

Exactly right.

Definite signs of improvement in this window.

[21sMay]

Hearing Amos on a deal until end of season with option of another year

[California-Hibs]

Hearing Amos on a deal until end of season with option of another year

Really hope so with this one! 🤞 Guys a player!

[greenlex]

The op didnt mention tonight, he just said he is signing
It does have an imminent vibe to it just using the emojis. Not sure why they’ve done that. Only they will know. Might have been better to just say I heard He’s signing. Just posting a pair of eyes and a pen FFS. I’m not sure what kind of reaction he was wanting apart from the ensuing guessing game.

[Torto7]

Ah, my bad! The lad who was called up in Darcy Grahams place? Interesting.

Yeah he's been on the 7s circuit mainly.

[SteveHFC]

Hearing Amos on a deal until end of season with option of another year

Decent.

Think we will do big business in the summer with the investment.

[badabing67]

Hearing Amos on a deal until end of season with option of another year

Wonder if the paper work was done in time so he can be in the squad today

[Bridge hibs]

It does have an imminent vibe to it just using the emojis. Not sure why they’ve done that. Only they will know. Might have been better to just say I heard He’s signing. Just posting a pair of eyes and a pen FFS. I’m not sure what kind of reaction he was wanting apart from the ensuing guessing game.True but I think a lot of us are quite excited by the current and possible new signings and will post what reflects that, no harm in it to be honest and not really worthy of dissecting the guys post on the back of a couple of emojis, plenty others do it if they hear something which often don't materialise

Anyway, any signings today ⏰⏳🛒🖊️

[Since452]

Hearing Amos on a deal until end of season with option of another year

I'd be surprised if there wasn't a deal for him with the club being so public about him being on trial.

[flash]

Wonder if the paper work was done in time so he can be in the squad today

Think he could still sign today and play as long as SPFL offices are open to register him.

Guess he doesn't need international clearance with being a Free agent?

[Hibs4185]

Think he could still sign today and play as long as SPFL offices are open to register him.

Guess he doesn't need international clearance with being a Free agent?

All the staff will be on a half day as their beloved rangers are playing tonight

[Nicho87]

Hibs surely got to be going after Jason Kerr

Established at this level.

Potential long term investment.

Hibs fan.

Potential captain.

Not playing with Wigan.

No brainer surely.

[Iain G]

Hearing Amos on a deal until end of season with option of another year

Heard from a mate of a mate kinda thing we are also looking at Bournemouth midfielder Jose Alvarez Quito.

Supposed to be an all action box to box type player and with Amos and him together we could be adding a lot more bite to our midfield.

[bingo70]

Hibs surely got to be going after Jason Kerr

Established at this level.

Potential long term investment.

Hibs fan.

Potential captain.

Not playing with Wigan.

No brainer surely.

The fact he’s a Hibs fan should be largely irrelevant.

Does the fact he’s not playing with Wigan not mean that it’s not a no brainer? That has alarm bells ringing for me.

His injury record is a red flag as well.

He’s reported to be on a very high salary just now, would you risk a high wage on someone with a concerning recent injury record and can’t get into the Wigan side?

Despite the above, I’m not against him signing, I can’t really remember him, he’s certainly not a no brainer imo though, he’d be a big risk I think.

[The Modfather]

Heard from a mate of a mate kinda thing we are also looking at Bournemouth midfielder Jose Alvarez Quito.

Supposed to be an all action box to box type player and with Amos and him together we could be adding a lot more bite to our midfield.

Really hope this is true. Monty wasn’t afraid to make the necessary but unpopular decisions in dropping Stevenson and Hanlon. Would be really encouraging if he sees the midfield as an issue and is prepared to make similarly unpopular, but necessary, decisions in midfield.

[Bridge hibs]

Heard from a mate of a mate kinda thing we are also looking at Bournemouth midfielder Jose Alvarez Quito.

Supposed to be an all action box to box type player and with Amos and him together we could be adding a lot more bite to our midfield.

Ive googled the name but its coming up with some Uruguayan guy who doesnt play for Bournemouth

[Nicho87]

The fact he’s a Hibs fan should be largely irrelevant.

Does the fact he’s not playing with Wigan not mean that it’s not a no brainer? That has alarm bells ringing for me.

His injury record is a red flag as well.

He’s reported to be on a very high salary just now, would you risk a high wage on someone with a concerning recent injury record and can’t get into the Wigan side?

Despite the above, I’m not against him signing, I can’t really remember him, he’s certainly not a no brainer imo though, he’d be a big risk I think.

Respectfully I get your points and noted them to be honest too.

I always thought he was the better one of him and mccart.

Your right being a hibs shouldn’t make or break a deal more so it helps hibs be sold to him I’d think

I would like to see the next gen of Paul Hanlon and Stevensons coming into the back line here for the next 5-6 years

I think Kerr ticks a hell of a lot of boxes, in my opinion of course.

[Iain G]

The fact he’s a Hibs fan should be largely irrelevant.

Does the fact he’s not playing with Wigan not mean that it’s not a no brainer? That has alarm bells ringing for me.

His injury record is a red flag as well.

He’s reported to be on a very high salary just now, would you risk a high wage on someone with a concerning recent injury record and can’t get into the Wigan side?

Despite the above, I’m not against him signing, I can’t really remember him, he’s certainly not a no brainer imo though, he’d be a big risk I think.

He had been 400 days out of the game, he needs to prove himself again as a player. We have gotten better at avoiding injury liabilities over the past windows or so and to pin our defensive hopes on Kerr would be risky.

[04Sauzee]

Heard from a mate of a mate kinda thing we are also looking at Bournemouth midfielder Jose Alvarez Quito.

Supposed to be an all action box to box type player and with Amos and him together we could be adding a lot more bite to our midfield.

I can't find anything on this player at all 🤔

[bingo70]

I can't find anything on this player at all 🤔

I’m pleased you said it, I was wondering if I was the victim of a joke I wasn’t getting 😂

[GloryGlory]

Respectfully I get your points and noted them to be honest too.

I always thought he was the better one of him and mccart.

Your right being a hibs shouldn’t make or break a deal more so it helps hibs be sold to him I’d think

I would like to see the next gen of Paul Hanlon and Stevensons coming into the back line here for the next 5-6 years

I think Kerr ticks a hell of a lot of boxes, in my opinion of course.

With respect, people are judging him on how he played 3-4 years ago. He's been out over 14 months with a serious injury, hasn't yet played very much on his return and there's no way of knowing if he ever can or ever will get back to that level.

[Hibernian Verse]

With respect, people are judging him on how he played 3-4 years ago. He's been out over 14 months with a serious injury, hasn't yet played very much on his return and there's no way of knowing if he ever can or ever will get back to that level.

Agree. If we ever go after a player that's had a recent injury all the usual comments come out, but not for Jason Kerr apparently.

"One of us" gets you by only so far.

[superfurryhibby]

With respect, people are judging him on how he played 3-4 years ago. He's been out over 14 months with a serious injury, hasn't yet played very much on his return and there's no way of knowing if he ever can or ever will get back to that level.

TBF, surely most people get that ?

Kerr is not someone Hibs will be offering a long contract /big wages/signing on fee at the moment. If he stays at Wigan, plays and stays fit, then he'll have options. Just now it would be a huge gamble for Hibs to offer more than a loan deal (option to buy). He's an experienced player, still only 26, so he has time on his side.

[Brightside]

Agree. If we ever go after a player that's had a recent injury all the usual comments come out, but not for Jason Kerr apparently.

"One of us" gets you by only so far.

Hes also a right footer. WE NEED AN LCB.

[CapitalGreen]

Hes also a right footer. WE NEED AN LCB.

We need both, Fish won’t be here in a few months.

[Hibernian Verse]

We need both, Fish won’t be here in a few months.

That can be dealt with in the summer. We need a ball player at LCB now. Hanlon/Rocky are not it.

[neil7908]

Agree. If we ever go after a player that's had a recent injury all the usual comments come out, but not for Jason Kerr apparently.

"One of us" gets you by only so far.

Don't want to get ahead of things but it also feels, based on our recent signings, that we might be operating at a different level now.

We've just signed a guy who was on the bench for an EPL game against Liverpool a few days ago, and another who's career transfer fees are €14m.

Maybe we can do better than a guy sitting on the bench for a club 11th in League One.

That's not to say I'm totally against Kerr. But things have changed for both us and him in the last few years.

[Crunchie]

Hes also a right footer. WE NEED AN LCB.
You're too obsessed with this left footer business, plenty of top flight teams have been successful without one. We've had one for years and not exactly set the heather on fire. If he's a good player get him signed.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Hes also a right footer. WE NEED AN LCB.

If the player is the right quality overall, it doesnt matter what foot they prefer, there are countless examples of two right footed CB combinations.

Its nice to have a leftie, but not essential.

[Crunchie]

If the player is the right quality overall, it doesnt matter what foot they prefer, there are countless examples of two right footed CB combinations.

Its nice to have a leftie, but not essential.
:agree:

[Roxyhibee]

Very positive January so far, would like to see some news on a goalie signing too.

[Mcbizz1998]

Really hope this is true. Monty wasn’t afraid to make the necessary but unpopular decisions in dropping Stevenson and Hanlon. Would be really encouraging if he sees the midfield as an issue and is prepared to make similarly unpopular, but necessary, decisions in midfield.

Who was dropping Hanlon and Stevenson unpopular with? Certainly not me!

I agree though, would be encouraging if he is willing to revamp the midfield even if that means Joe no longer being an automatic starter.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Don't want to get ahead of things but it also feels, based on our recent signings, that we might be operating at a different level now.

We've just signed a guy who was on the bench for an EPL game against Liverpool a few days ago, and another who's career transfer fees are €14m.

Maybe we can do better than a guy sitting on the bench for a club 11th in League One.

That's not to say I'm totally against Kerr. But things have changed for both us and him in the last few years.

Agree. If the two guys we’ve recently signed are anything to go by then I’m not sure a Wigan sub will be the calibre we’re after.

[WhileTheChief..]

but but Mcdermott and Monty and Kendall don't have a clue, they should be nowhere near our club, they've done nothing to find a player of any quality...mcinnes of course would be signing better than these guys...

I of course fully agree with you. just frustrates me so much when fans on here spout entitled, attention seeking melodrama to try and prove their own agenda against the club. thank christ there are some of us who are prepared to sit back and see the evidence unfold before reacting...

I do think we'll see a couple more leave btw - I know we want a bigger squad but this definite lift in quality might well see Doige away for one and if Amos coming in can't see us holding on to JDH and Jeggo too.

Total BS. Who are you to call anyone on here entitled?

Nobody has a damn agenda against the club.

[Brightside]

Who was dropping Hanlon and Stevenson unpopular with? Certainly not me!

I agree though, would be encouraging if he is willing to revamp the midfield even if that means Joe no longer being an automatic starter.

Unpopular with me. Until we can replace PH with better he shouldn't be dropped. Obita is better than Lewis now. Rocky isn't even close to being as good as Paul.

[Crunchie]

Unpopular with me. Until we can replace PH with better he shouldn't be dropped. Obita is better than Lewis now. Rocky isn't even close to being as good as Paul.
:faf: You're a funny guy

[Brightside]

If the player is the right quality overall, it doesnt matter what foot they prefer, there are countless examples of two right footed CB combinations.

Its nice to have a leftie, but not essential.

"if the player is the right quality". Thats the big one. We haven't been close to getting a right footed CB who can play well on the left. Just go and buy the left footed Tom Macintyre and all will be good for the next 5 years.

[Brightside]

:faf: You're a funny guy

I am - I'm also right. :wink::greengrin

[Hibernian Verse]

"if the player is the right quality". Thats the big one. We haven't been close to getting a right footed CB who can play well on the left. Just go and buy the left footed Tom Macintyre and all will be good for the next 5 years.

9 matches in League One this season? We've just signed from clubs in the EPL & Bundesliga so hopefully we're setting our sights higher. We've had League One guff for long enough now.

(Yes I know Maolida was playing Regionaliga, but by all accounts down to attitude not ability).

[Nicho87]

With respect, people are judging him on how he played 3-4 years ago. He's been out over 14 months with a serious injury, hasn't yet played very much on his return and there's no way of knowing if he ever can or ever will get back to that level.

Agree I think he’s a good player when fit.

If hibs could instigate some sort of deal where we are protected should long term injuries crop up.

I get it.

There’s more than Jason Kerr out there, I just think when fit. He fits a type of player we currently go for.


Like the mcgeouch, fyvies, Marcondes probably fall into

All good

[Brightside]

9 matches in League One this season? We've just signed from clubs in the EPL & Bundesliga so hopefully we're setting our sights higher. We've had League One guff for long enough now.

(Yes I know Maolida was playing Regionaliga, but by all accounts down to attitude not ability).

Tom Macintyre is a very good CB. Just returned from injury and got a bad concussion. He is class - honestly.

[.Sean.]

:faf: You're a funny guy
He’s right. Rocky is absolutely honking and never in a million years good enough for us.

[Hibernian Verse]

Tom Macintyre is a very good CB. Just returned from injury and got a bad concussion. He is class - honestly.

Class at what level though? League 1? If he was good enough to go where we want surely he will be snapped up by an English Championship team, or at least linked.

[Crunchie]

He’s right. Rocky is absolutely honking and never in a million years good enough for us.
He's better than a slow PH that's for sure. Let's see how PH does tonight, I hope I'm eating my words.

[MikeyS]

:faf: You're a funny guy

He's also spot on. There is no way Rocky is good enough for where we are or aspire to be.

[CapitalGreen]

Class at what level though? League 1? If he was good enough to go where we want surely he will be snapped up by an English Championship team, or at least linked.

He’s been linked with lots of Championship clubs.

[.Sean.]

He's better than a slow PH that's for sure. Let's see how PH does tonight, I hope I'm eating my words.
Is he? At least Hanlon doesn’t nutmeg himself when he tries to win a heeder. A centre half that rash and erratic he cant compose himself enough to time a jump and put his head through a ball last minute of a derby.

[CapitalGreen]

Class at what level though? League 1? If he was good enough to go where we want surely he will be snapped up by an English Championship team, or at least linked.

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[Crunchie]

Is he? At least Hanlon doesn’t nutmeg himself when he tries to win a heeder. A centre half that rash and erratic he cant compose himself enough to time a jump and put his head through a ball last minute of a derby.
There's not enough room on this page to list PH **** ups in games, and that included 3 years at Championship level against the likes of Dumbarton and the likes.
Monty rates Rocky higher than PH that's good enough for me. Though I do agree we need better.

[.Sean.]

There's not enough room on this page to list PH **** ups in games, and that included 3 years at Championship level against the likes of Dumbarton and the likes.
Monty rates Rocky higher than PH that's good enough for me. Though I do agree we need better.
On the plus side this debate will be a distant memory come the summer as I presume we’ll have a new centre back pairing that’ll be a substantial upgrade on Hanlon / Bushiri / whoever else!:greengrin

[04Sauzee]

1 week to go, what are we guessing we will see before the end of the window? 2 more? A CM and a LCB?

[Hibernian Verse]

He’s been linked with lots of Championship clubs.

I see now he was in the Summer and recently.

[badabing67]

On the plus side this debate will be a distant memory come the summer as I presume we’ll have a new centre back pairing that’ll be a substantial upgrade on Hanlon / Bushiri / whoever else!:greengrin


Monty wants Fish on a perm. I wonder if it will happen.

[WhileTheChief..]

Gotta feel for Hanlon when he’s being compared to Rocky in such a negative way!

Both will be gone by the summer.

Paul will be remembered fondly by most, Rocky quickly forgotten about other than for being a bombscare that we signed by mistake.

[04Sauzee]

Football Insider. Not sure how much they get right.

EXCLUSIVE! 🚨 - Burnley, Ipswich and Blackburn are racing to sign Hearts defender Alex Cochrane.

The former Brighton ace has impressed with the Jambos and could make a return to English football. 👀

[CapitalGreen]

Football Insider. Not sure how much they get right.

EXCLUSIVE! 🚨 - Burnley, Ipswich and Blackburn are racing to sign Hearts defender Alex Cochrane.

The former Brighton ace has impressed with the Jambos and could make a return to English football. 👀

He’s been a decent signing for them. The only player to move from Brighton to Edinburgh during Graeme Mathie’s partnership with Brighton.

[Alex Trager]

Football Insider. Not sure how much they get right.

EXCLUSIVE! 🚨 - Burnley, Ipswich and Blackburn are racing to sign Hearts defender Alex Cochrane.

The former Brighton ace has impressed with the Jambos and could make a return to English football. 👀
Is he any good?

Surely Burnley aren’t chasing a Hearts RB?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Is he any good?

Surely Burnley aren’t chasing a Hearts RB?

Cochranes a LB.

He’s decent enough, I’d expect he’d make a decent career for himself in the championship. He’s never EPL level though.

[RMQ1967]

Total BS. Who are you to call anyone on here entitled?

Nobody has a damn agenda against the club.

I think he's absolutely right to have a pop at some of the views that have been expressed in relation to the people trying to make good things happen for Hibs. e.g. they don't have a clue what they're doing, we're going to end up without any signings or the same trash as we had at the start of the window, they're only in it for what they can get out of it etc. etc.

For sure, some posters can't wait to criticise senior figures in the club & for that reason I'm happy to see people getting it right up them :na na:

[04Sauzee]

EXCLUSIVE! James Scott to St Mirren transfer deal accelerates as Stephen Robinson set to reunite with Exeter striker | @ScottBurns75

[Hibernian Verse]

EXCLUSIVE! James Scott to St Mirren transfer deal accelerates as Stephen Robinson set to reunite with Exeter striker | @ScottBurns75

You know what's happening a week on Saturday...

[WhileTheChief..]

I think he's absolutely right to have a pop at some of the views that have been expressed in relation to the people trying to make good things happen for Hibs. e.g. they don't have a clue what they're doing, we're going to end up without any signings or the same trash as we had at the start of the window, they're only in it for what they can get out of it etc. etc.

For sure, some posters can't wait to criticise senior figures in the club & for that reason I'm happy to see people getting it right up them :na na:

The forum is to discuss Hibs, not to put down other fans just cause you don’t like what they have to say.

They can’t disagree without stooping to name calling or the likes?

Well, in a similar spirit, get it right up all the posters who constantly slag off their fellow fans on here.

[VoltaireHibs]

You know what's happening a week on Saturday...

Yes, we're putting 4 or 5 past St Mirren..😁

[Hibernian Verse]

Yes, we're putting 4 or 5 past St Mirren..😁

Haha I like you're thinking

[Donegal Hibby]

I never understood why players like Campbell , Rocky and even two club legends like lewy and Hanlon come in for so much criticism, improve our first team yes but guys like these are still good squad players to have imo .

[flash]

The forum is to discuss Hibs, not to put down other fans just cause you don’t like what they have to say.

They can’t disagree without stooping to name calling or the likes?

Well, in a similar spirit, get it right up all the posters who constantly slag off their fellow fans on here.

You truly are the champion of the oppressed.

[VoltaireHibs]

The forum is to discuss Hibs, not to put down other fans just cause you don’t like what they have to say.

They can’t disagree without stooping to name calling or the likes?

Well, in a similar spirit, get it right up all the posters who constantly slag off their fellow fans on here.


I signed up to .net a month or two ago after being a long time reader of it. It's quickly become obvious that there are a handful of posters on here who can find nothing to like about Hibs, and who post negatively on lots of threads, always turning the debate toward themselves and their desire to shout and argue.

It's attention seeking nonsense, but that shouldn't surprise anyone as that's basically most of all social media. These posters seem to feed off negativity, maybe it gives their lives purpose? Sad but possibly true. It's relentlessly boring for others and does somewhat ruin the site.

I have no issues with constructive criticism, and I understand posts can be made in the heat of a bad result. But a few on here are relentless,calling out Hibs employees, slating their professionalism, which is way out of order. And it's also very very dull.

[Cammy]

I never understood why players like Campbell , Rocky and even two club legends like lewy and Hanlon come in for so much criticism, improve our first team yes but guys like these are still good squad players to have imo .

Completely agree. It's up to the club to bring in better, they always give 100%.

[KWJ]

Hanlon and Rocky are both fine squad players I reckon and offer something different. But we do need 1, preferably 2, improvements on both as regular starters.

[Torto7]

McIntyre is a very good CH. At 25 he would be a fantastic signing.

[Saint Hibee]

Monty wants Fish on a perm. I wonder if it will happen.

Is Fish really that much better than Rocky or Hanlon? He’s had his share of cockups too.

[EGL2000]

Is Fish really that much better than Rocky or Hanlon? He’s had his share of cockups too.

He's definitely dropped off this season for me. Probably doesn't help that the back 4 he plays in changes constantly.

[CapitalGreen]

Is Fish really that much better than Rocky or Hanlon? He’s had his share of cockups too.

Is Fish really better than Rocky? Is that really a genuine question?

[superfurryhibby]

Is Fish really that much better than Rocky or Hanlon? He’s had his share of cockups too.

He's not developed quite like I had hoped this season. Aged 20 though, he will keep getting better. Playing alongside a CH with a mix of Rocky's pace/strength and Hanlon's footballing ability would help.

[Edinburgh Green]

McIntyre is a very good CH. At 25 he would be a fantastic signing.

Thats a couple of people saying he would be a fantastic signing, based on what? I hadn't heard of the guy before he was mentioned on here and on the rare chance I've seen Reading play on tv I don't think he would of been playing.

[Stevie Reid]

Fish is way better than Rocky, IMO. Better defender, better footballer, and more of a goal threat from set pieces.

[Sioux]

[QUOTE=VoltaireHibs;7557342]I signed up to .net a month or two ago after being a long time reader of it. It's quickly become obvious that there are a handful of posters on here who can find nothing to like about Hibs, and who post negatively on lots of threads, always turning the debate toward themselves and their desire to shout and argue.

It's attention seeking nonsense, but that shouldn't surprise anyone as that's basically most of all social media. These posters seem to feed off negativity, maybe it gives their lives purpose? Sad but possibly true. It's relentlessly boring for others and does somewhat ruin the site.

I have no issues with constructive criticism, and I understand posts can be made in the heat of a bad result. But a few on here are relentless,calling out Hibs employees, slating their professionalism, which is way out of order. And it's also very very dull.[/QUOTE

:devil:

[easty]

Is Fish really better than Rocky? Is that really a genuine question?

Aye, Fish is a level up from Rocky as a footballer and centre half, in my opinion.

Rocky doesn't have the footballing intelligence for me. He can control a ball, he can move it, strong in the tackle, athletic. All good things, but then he's positional sense is very suspect, his timing is really poor when going for headers (the number of times he ****s up a header is unreal), and he overplays it too often too.

I'd be happy enough with Rocky as a sub, but he shouldn't be starting for us.

Fish is far from the finished article to be fair, but he's only 20 year old.

[WhileTheChief..]

You truly are the champion of the oppressed.

Not sure what you mean by that? You don’t think it’s a fair point I’m making?

[WhileTheChief..]

I signed up to .net a month or two ago after being a long time reader of it. It's quickly become obvious that there are a handful of posters on here who can find nothing to like about Hibs, and who post negatively on lots of threads, always turning the debate toward themselves and their desire to shout and argue.

It's attention seeking nonsense, but that shouldn't surprise anyone as that's basically most of all social media. These posters seem to feed off negativity, maybe it gives their lives purpose? Sad but possibly true. It's relentlessly boring for others and does somewhat ruin the site.

I have no issues with constructive criticism, and I understand posts can be made in the heat of a bad result. But a few on here are relentless,calling out Hibs employees, slating their professionalism, which is way out of order. And it's also very very dull.

You could equally say there are a handful of posters who offer nothing to the board other than to argue and put down others. Are they also doing it to seek attention?

[04Sauzee]

This would be a huge blow to Celtic

UPDATE: Celtic have received a bid from Atletico Madrid for Matt O'Riley.

It’s understood the offer is a loan with an obligation to buy.

Celtic have been braced for bids, but believe they’re in a strong position.

(w/@SkySportsLyall)

[Saint Hibee]

Is Fish really better than Rocky? Is that really a genuine question?

Fish made a string of errors at the start of the season, that nobody seemed to fixate about as much as whenever Rocky or Hanlon makes a mistake. As others have pointed out, he's young, and I'm not saying he won't improve and become a better player, but I think he gets a pretty easy ride on here compared to our other centre backs.

[EGL2000]

This would be a huge blow to Celtic

UPDATE: Celtic have received a bid from Atletico Madrid for Matt O'Riley.

It’s understood the offer is a loan with an obligation to buy.

They won't let him go in January unless they get crazy money.

Celtic have been braced for bids, but believe they’re in a strong position.

(w/@SkySportsLyall)

They won't let him go in Jan, unless they get crazy money.

[CapitalGreen]

Not sure what you mean by that? You don’t think it’s a fair point I’m making?

Probably just referring to how you’re constantly on here pontificating about how people should and shouldn’t post like some sort of self-appointed admin.

[easty]

Fish made a string of errors at the start of the season, that nobody seemed to fixate about as much as whenever Rocky or Hanlon makes a mistake. As others have pointed out, he's young, and I'm not saying he won't improve and become a better player, but I think he gets a pretty easy ride on here compared to our other centre backs.

I think you’re remembering it wrong. He got it tight on here earlier in the season and there were numerous posts about how he deserved to be dropped.

[bingo70]

They won't let him go in Jan, unless they get crazy money.

They’ve already got more money than they know how to spend.

[at last 61]

You can't have 2 young centre Half's, you need someone with a good pedigree and experience, so for me it's a new c/h and a midfielder who can break play up and move forward quickly, then we can bring in lads who need the experience rather than bench warmers

[WhileTheChief..]

Probably just referring to how you’re constantly on here pontificating about how people should and shouldn’t post like some sort of self-appointed admin.

You mean in the same way all the folk complaining about negative posters do!!

[Since452]

The forum is to discuss Hibs, not to put down other fans just cause you don’t like what they have to say.

They can’t disagree without stooping to name calling or the likes?

Well, in a similar spirit, get it right up all the posters who constantly slag off their fellow fans on here.

If people have an unpopular opinion on here they are often called trolls, Jambos etc and are threatened with the big bad ignore function. Put it this way, with our performances, going back as far as just after the semi final, there is definitely something very wrong.

Two very good signings "on paper" in my opinion is a good start to hopefully changing that and it's injected a bit of much needed positivity. A new centre half and some better performances and the negative posts will start to die down, including mine.

End of the day some people get a bit emotional because they want the best for Hibs.

[badabing67]

Is Fish really that much better than Rocky or Hanlon? He’s had his share of cockups too.


Same as Porto. Fish is a young player with loads of potential

[VoltaireHibs]

You could equally say there are a handful of posters who offer nothing to the board other than to argue and put down others. Are they also doing it to seek attention?

I think there's an element of truth in that, yes. But I can see why. If you make your point in a post, so everyone can read it, why regurgitate it and turn half the threads into the same old argument? It is quite frustrating.

Personally I think Ian Gordon has done as good a job as he could in the circumstances. He's made plenty mistakes but it looks to me like he's taking excellent steps to rectify those. The idea that a son, who seemed to have a wonderful relationship with his father, would be in any way negligent with his father's project is, quite frankly, offensive.

I wonder how many people have lost a parent and know how hard that can be?

Give the guy a break. He's brought in Brian McDermott who, having read his CV and known a bit about him anyway, is as good as we could have got at our level. He's organised, with BK, the Foley investment. These are all admissions that Hibs needed a change of direction. Admissions of failures if you wish. I'm honestly not sure what more folk expect?

It's Scottish football, it's a tinpot crapshoot by and large, we're trying hard to climb out of that right now. A bit of positivity would be good instead of jumping on failings that every club in every league has.

[Paulie Walnuts]

If people have an unpopular opinion on here they are often called trolls, Jambos etc and are threatened with the big bad ignore function. Put it this way, with our performances, going back as far as just after the semi final, there is definitely something very wrong.

Two very good signings "on paper" in my opinion is a good start to hopefully changing that and it's injected a bit of much needed positivity. A new centre half and some better performances and the negative posts will start to die down, including mine.

End of the day some people get a bit emotional because they want the best for Hibs.

And as we established the other day, it’s a band of posters who have held the same opinion themselves previously or even more extreme opinions previously but now they suddenly can’t fathom someone holding the same sort of opinion :greengrin

You’ve got to laugh really.

[04Sauzee]

Mikey Johnston could be going out on loan with West Brom supposedly interested.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Mikey Johnston could be going out on loan with West Brom supposedly interested.

Would probably have taken him previously but we definitely don’t need him now.

There was always lots of folk saying we should go for Stephen Welsh (centre half) at Celtic but he seems to have disappeared from the face of the earth. 24 years old.

[Donegal Hibby]

McIntyre is a very good CH. At 25 he would be a fantastic signing.

Don't know much about this guy though is he any better than we have ? , if he is I wonder why his club that's struggling in league 1 haven't him on a longer contract or maybe more clubs interested in him ? .

[VoltaireHibs]

Aye, Fish is a level up from Rocky as a footballer and centre half, in my opinion.

Rocky doesn't have the footballing intelligence for me. He can control a ball, he can move it, strong in the tackle, athletic. All good things, but then he's positional sense is very suspect, his timing is really poor when going for headers (the number of times he ****s up a header is unreal), and he overplays it too often too.

I'd be happy enough with Rocky as a sub, but he shouldn't be starting for us.

Fish is far from the finished article to be fair, but he's only 20 year old.

I wonder if the Rocky/headers thing is a particularly Scottish/British thing. I can't imagine too many players coming through on the continent practicing headers all day, maybe more emphasis on other aspects of their game?

I can see Rocky isn't perfect, but I don't think there's a significant difference between any of our current central defenders. None of them make me think 'Clean sheet today!'

But what I do know is that Rocky seems to get singled out more than others.

Hopefully the club are at this moment rectifying that situation. Then we can all relax. 😁

[VoltaireHibs]

Same as Porto. Fish is a young player with loads of potential


He's been here long enough, in a bang average/below average league so I think he needs to start showing a bit more of that potential. He's currently 'decent', nothing more. I certainly wouldn't be pushing the boat out for him.

[Brightside]

Thats a couple of people saying he would be a fantastic signing, based on what? I hadn't heard of the guy before he was mentioned on here and on the rare chance I've seen Reading play on tv I don't think he would of been playing.

Scotland u21 same time at Porto. Was very good for reading before he got injured.

[Brightside]

I wonder if the Rocky/headers thing is a particularly Scottish/British thing. I can't imagine too many players coming through on the continent practicing headers all day, maybe more emphasis on other aspects of their game?

I can see Rocky isn't perfect, but I don't think there's a significant difference between any of our current central defenders. None of them make me think 'Clean sheet today!'

But what I do know is that Rocky seems to get singled out more than others.

Hopefully the club are at this moment rectifying that situation. Then we can all relax. 😁

It agree if Rocky was decent with the ball at his feet. He’s all power. Pretty poor technique.

[WeeRussell]

Probably just referring to how you’re constantly on here pontificating about how people should and shouldn’t post like some sort of self-appointed admin.

Oh come on, trolling and relentless negativity wouldn’t be the same on here without the unreasonable voice of reason coming on with the “fellow fans” line whenever someone points out it’s a bit tiring.

The fact that the reason some are called out is because there are doubts or they’re not behaving like ‘fellow fans’ is of course neither here nor there.

[CapitalGreen]

Don't know much about this guy though is he any better than we have ? , if he is I wonder why his club that's struggling in league 1 haven't him on a longer contract or maybe more clubs interested in him ? .

He’s significantly better than Rocky.

Reading are struggling because they are skint, their owner is regularly missing payments to HMRC, he won’t want another contract even if they could afford to offer him one. There is interest in him from the English Championship but rules down south prevent players signing pre-contracts.

[WeeRussell]

I signed up to .net a month or two ago after being a long time reader of it. It's quickly become obvious that there are a handful of posters on here who can find nothing to like about Hibs, and who post negatively on lots of threads, always turning the debate toward themselves and their desire to shout and argue.

It's attention seeking nonsense, but that shouldn't surprise anyone as that's basically most of all social media. These posters seem to feed off negativity, maybe it gives their lives purpose? Sad but possibly true. It's relentlessly boring for others and does somewhat ruin the site.

I have no issues with constructive criticism, and I understand posts can be made in the heat of a bad result. But a few on here are relentless,calling out Hibs employees, slating their professionalism, which is way out of order. And it's also very very dull.

Good, and in my opinion, accurate post.

Of course people can post what they like provided admins judge it to all be compliant and legit. That also means people have the right to post what they think of said posts, comment on a decline in quality/enjoyment of forum because of them, as well as put posters on ignore if they see fit.

[keep the faith]

I signed up to .net a month or two ago after being a long time reader of it. It's quickly become obvious that there are a handful of posters on here who can find nothing to like about Hibs, and who post negatively on lots of threads, always turning the debate toward themselves and their desire to shout and argue.

It's attention seeking nonsense, but that shouldn't surprise anyone as that's basically most of all social media. These posters seem to feed off negativity, maybe it gives their lives purpose? Sad but possibly true. It's relentlessly boring for others and does somewhat ruin the site.

I have no issues with constructive criticism, and I understand posts can be made in the heat of a bad result. But a few on here are relentless,calling out Hibs employees, slating their professionalism, which is way out of order. And it's also very very dull.

I dream of the day where a daily maximum post count for every user is introduced on here.
Overnight, there would be more balance in the threads, points would not be laboured to death and the place would be much more inclusive and constructive. Almost like a forum for fans of the club...

One day...

[RMQ1967]

You could equally say there are a handful of posters who offer nothing to the board other than to argue and put down others. Are they also doing it to seek attention?

There are some posters who deserve to be challenged & criticised for the unadulterated garbage they spout about the abilities of Hibs players and club employees.

What you seem to be saying that it's okay for them to spout anti-Hibs nonsense unchallenged but it's not okay for other posters to call them out on it?

Is that really your position?

[VoltaireHibs]

If people have an unpopular opinion on here they are often called trolls, Jambos etc and are threatened with the big bad ignore function. Put it this way, with our performances, going back as far as just after the semi final, there is definitely something very wrong.

Two very good signings "on paper" in my opinion is a good start to hopefully changing that and it's injected a bit of much needed positivity. A new centre half and some better performances and the negative posts will start to die down, including mine.

End of the day some people get a bit emotional because they want the best for Hibs.


You are a good case in point. I agree with lots of what you say about the direction Hibs have taken in the last 3 or 4 years. What I tend to disagree with is the way it comes across. The good points often get lost in the barely disguised vitriol. I totally get the frustration, and I don't think you're a Jambo interloper, but I do wonder what you think you'll achieve with that posting style?

As I said, I agree with many of your complaints, but a bigger perspective is required sometimes, a wee bit of understanding that none of it is deliberate, no one at the club is trying to ruin Hibs. If we all went through life being perfect it would be an awfy dull place. 😉

[easty]

I wonder if the Rocky/headers thing is a particularly Scottish/British thing. I can't imagine too many players coming through on the continent practicing headers all day, maybe more emphasis on other aspects of their game?

I can see Rocky isn't perfect, but I don't think there's a significant difference between any of our current central defenders. None of them make me think 'Clean sheet today!'

But what I do know is that Rocky seems to get singled out more than others.

Hopefully the club are at this moment rectifying that situation. Then we can all relax. 😁

Rocky doesn't get singled out more than others. There's probably nobody at Hibs who's singled out for more abuse than Paul Hanlon on this forum. Will Fish has had his moments on here too.

There's no Rocky Bushiri vendetta with Hibs fans. I dunno why some people seem desperate to see one?

[VoltaireHibs]

Rocky doesn't get singled out more than others. There's probably nobody at Hibs who's singled out for more abuse than Paul Hanlon on this forum. Will Fish has had his moments on here too.

There's no Rocky Bushiri vendetta with Hibs fans. I dunno why some people seem desperate to see one?

Yeah, I suppose it's perception, which is what most of life comes down too. Hanlon has certainly had his detractors. Fish I haven't seen so much of but he is probably the pick of a distinctly average bunch. As I said above, hopefully a good CB (L or R, I don't care) is currently at HTC signing the next 4 years of his life away. 😁


Anyway, apologies for the derailing.

Any new signings imminent??

[badabing67]

There are some posters who deserve to be challenged & criticised for the unadulterated garbage they spout about the abilities of Hibs players and club employees.

What you seem to be saying that it's okay for them to spout anti-Hibs nonsense unchallenged but it's not okay for other posters to call them out on it?

Is that really your position?


Can you be our fan representative on the Sportsound fan forum : Put them right

[HoboHarry]

So back to transfer chat - any news today? Different time zone here so I'm 6 hours behind...

[JohnM1875]

So back to transfer chat - any news today? Different time zone here so I'm 6 hours behind...

Signed someone five hours ago, man. You’ll find out in a bit.

[VoltaireHibs]

Signed someone five hours ago, man. You’ll find out in a bit.

😂

[HoboHarry]

Signed someone five hours ago, man. You’ll find out in a bit.
:greengrin

[Ronniekirk]

Rocky doesn't get singled out more than others. There's probably nobody at Hibs who's singled out for more abuse than Paul Hanlon on this forum. Will Fish has had his moments on here too.

There's no Rocky Bushiri vendetta with Hibs fans. I dunno why some people seem desperate to see one?
He has improved no question about that He does make mistakes but that’s to be expected
unfortunately he made a few in the Derby That mental hand ball for penalty and the poor attempt at header that led to Shankland winner
He was always going to get stuck for that Butvas long as he keeps improving and learning am fine with that

[BoomtownHibees]

Would probably have taken him previously but we definitely don’t need him now.

There was always lots of folk saying we should go for Stephen Welsh (centre half) at Celtic but he seems to have disappeared from the face of the earth. 24 years old.

He played against the currants and got injured. Shoulder injury I think

[RIP]

Is he? At least Hanlon doesn’t nutmeg himself when he tries to win a heeder. A centre half that rash and erratic he cant compose himself enough to time a jump and put his head through a ball last minute of a derby.

Maybe if Squareheid hadnt rabbit punched him in the windpipe, Rocky might have got his head to the ball first. Not the first time the wee scroat had done that by the way. Cheating grunt.

[Centre Hawf]

Rocky doesn't get singled out more than others. There's probably nobody at Hibs who's singled out for more abuse than Paul Hanlon on this forum. Will Fish has had his moments on here too.

There's no Rocky Bushiri vendetta with Hibs fans. I dunno why some people seem desperate to see one?

Without wanting dragging this conversation into the pits of racism paranoia, which I'm not accusing any Hibs fans of here when it comes to criticising Rocky as it's 95% justified.

But I do think there are sometimes a lower threshold for mistakes when it comes to athletes of BAME backgrounds, in any team sport. You only have to read what Hearts fans thought of Rocky even before the last derby to know that they were singling him out for errors when Will Fish this season had far more howlers until Monty came in. The same I always felt was for Efe when he was easily our best defender, and one of our best players, for the entire time he was here. Yet a random Jambo or St Mirren fan you meet would have you believe he was a 'bombscare' despite his consistency for us, Bamba also got the bombscare label before he left to go on to be a very very solid player at a very high level.

It's all about perceptions ultimately, but I do think some people have a harder time shaking off or avoiding developing negative ones off than others do.

[basehibby]

Getting back on topic - someone needs to update the first post in this thread where the transfer activity thus far is clearly mapped out. It's showing noone in when we have certainly confirmed two loan deals in - also does not mention Tait's move to Hamilton.

And as for RUMOURS.....

[Donegal Hibby]

He’s significantly better than Rocky.

Reading are struggling because they are skint, their owner is regularly missing payments to HMRC, he won’t want another contract even if they could afford to offer him one. There is interest in him from the English Championship but rules down south prevent players signing pre-contracts.

Fair enough mate , quite happy to see us improve the first team and have Rocky who I think has improved a lot and hopefully continues to do so as backup.
Thanks 👍

[badabing67]

Is there anything happening with Luke Amos

[easty]

Without wanting dragging this conversation into the pits of racism paranoia, which I'm not accusing any Hibs fans of here when it comes to criticising Rocky as it's 95% justified.

But I do think there are sometimes a lower threshold for mistakes when it comes to athletes of BAME backgrounds, in any team sport. You only have to read what Hearts fans thought of Rocky even before the last derby to know that they were singling him out for errors when Will Fish this season had far more howlers until Monty came in. The same I always felt was for Efe when he was easily our best defender, and one of our best players, for the entire time he was here. Yet a random Jambo or St Mirren fan you meet would have you believe he was a 'bombscare' despite his consistency for us, Bamba also got the bombscare label before he left to go on to be a very very solid player at a very high level.

It's all about perceptions ultimately, but I do think some people have a harder time shaking off or avoiding developing negative ones off than others do.

For me, the term “bombscare” doesnae necessarily mean “bad defender”. It means that the player has it in them to turn a nothing situation into a terrible one quickly. I think that term fit with Ambrose, Bamba and Rocky. Also Porteous. It’s lapses in concentration that cause errors. Usually defenders who are actually decent with the ball at feet. You’d never describe someone like Mcgregor or Rob Jones as a bombscare. Doesn’t mean they didn’t make mistakes, just that when they did it was rarely a “bombscare” moment. I’d say Will Fish is similar to that.

[WhileTheChief..]

There are some posters who deserve to be challenged & criticised for the unadulterated garbage they spout about the abilities of Hibs players and club employees.

What you seem to be saying that it's okay for them to spout anti-Hibs nonsense unchallenged but it's not okay for other posters to call them out on it?

Is that really your position?

Nope not my position at all.

I guess I just don’t see these posts as being anti-Hibs.

For example, if someone posts that that don’t rate a player, that used to be perfectly acceptable on here.

There would then be discussion around said player but it never resulted in posters having a go at one another.

Now though, it’s seen as having an agenda or similar, and that those posters aren’t real Hibs fans etc.

That’s the bit I take issue with, and will continue to do so.

[MKHIBEE]

Nope not my position at all.

I guess I just don’t see these posts as being anti-Hibs.

For example, if someone posts that that don’t rate a player, that used to be perfectly acceptable on here.

There would then be discussion around said player but it never resulted in posters having a go at one another.

Now though, it’s seen as having an agenda or similar, and that those posters aren’t real Hibs fans etc.

That’s the bit I take issue with, and will continue to do so.
And vice versa, if you post that you rate a player then someone will be along to have a go

[Oscar T Grouch]

You're too obsessed with this left footer business, plenty of top flight teams have been successful without one. We've had one for years and not exactly set the heather on fire. If he's a good player get him signed.


Hes also a right footer. WE NEED AN LCB.


If the player is the right quality overall, it doesnt matter what foot they prefer, there are countless examples of two right footed CB combinations.

Its nice to have a leftie, but not essential.

There is not enough left footers out there for every team to have a L/R CB. Someone has actually researched this

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Distribution-of-Left-and-Right-Footed-Players-in-European-Cross-Section_tbl1_46448047

The table at the top show the distribution of left, right and both footed defenders, 61.5% Right Footed, 29.9 Left footed and 8.6 ambi-pedal players
On that same table it is interesting that defenders are the least ambipedal of players by some distance too.
If you want to see some real nerd level stat twisting check out a few Baseball nerds, they have it down to an art form, but I suppose they get the most data per game than almost any other sport!!
The internet is a wonderful place sometimes :greengrin

[superfurryhibby]

Without wanting dragging this conversation into the pits of racism paranoia, which I'm not accusing any Hibs fans of here when it comes to criticising Rocky as it's 95% justified.

But I do think there are sometimes a lower threshold for mistakes when it comes to athletes of BAME backgrounds, in any team sport. You only have to read what Hearts fans thought of Rocky even before the last derby to know that they were singling him out for errors when Will Fish this season had far more howlers until Monty came in. The same I always felt was for Efe when he was easily our best defender, and one of our best players, for the entire time he was here. Yet a random Jambo or St Mirren fan you meet would have you believe he was a 'bombscare' despite his consistency for us, Bamba also got the bombscare label before he left to go on to be a very very solid player at a very high level.

It's all about perceptions ultimately, but I do think some people have a harder time shaking off or avoiding developing negative ones off than others do.

It's a term that has undertones of unconscious bias. I have heard people describe Rocky as a bombscare and in the next breath mention Ambrose. Why not Hanlon, McGregor, Fish or any other central defender we've had over the years. They've all had their share of mistakes.

Bing AI said this "The term “bombscare” is a derogatory term used to describe a player who is perceived to be prone to making mistakes or errors on the field. It is not inherently racist, but it can be used in a racist manner when directed towards black footballers. The use of this term can be seen as a form of racial stereotyping and can contribute to a hostile environment for black players in football 1. It is important to be mindful of the language we use and how it can affect others".

[Keepthefaith]

Nope not my position at all.

I guess I just don’t see these posts as being anti-Hibs.

For example, if someone posts that that don’t rate a player, that used to be perfectly acceptable on here.

There would then be discussion around said player but it never resulted in posters having a go at one another.

Now though, it’s seen as having an agenda or similar, and that those posters aren’t real Hibs fans etc.

That’s the bit I take issue with, and will continue to do so.

But it's not just that is it? The way you describe that is more measured. Many posters have levelled accusations against the entire strategy, competence of the manager and DoF and board. They come out with quite vitriolic narrative about being same old Hibs when we hadn't signed anyone by mid January, decrying a lack of will for us to be ambitious and spend money etc

No-one disagrees that the club have been poor in the past and got things badly wrong at times, but none of the negative posters acknowledge that Ron initially and Ian/Ben/ brian since then have been humble, have acknowledged this and said they want a different future for the club.

The negative posters ignore this.

My posts I hope are balanced in trying to recognise the steps the club are taking to improve us. I might not always get that right in reacting to the depth of negativity. However what I do consistently ask is for more balance from others when aiming their criticism.

Folk say they criticise so harshly because they care. Maybe critique with care to avoid adding to a level of toxicity that has engulfed our support. IMO part of our awful atmosphere is due to folk waiting for the team to prove they're worth our support, rather than vocally supporting to encourage first. Forfar was symptomatic of this.

Continue to have an opinion for sure,but take a bit of care whilst you do so? There's nothing to lose and I guarantee you'll be listened to more respectfully.

[VoltaireHibs]

[QUOTE=WhileTheChief..;7557499]Nope not my position at all.

I guess I just don’t see these posts as being anti-Hibs.

For example, if someone posts that that don’t rate a player, that used to be perfectly acceptable on here.

There would then be discussion around said player but it never resulted in posters having a go at one another.

Now though, it’s seen as having an agenda or similar, and that those posters aren’t real Hibs fans etc.

That’s the bit I take issue with, and will continue to do so.[/QUOT

I agree with you here. You can criticise a viewpoint without criticising the person you're responding to.

[SHODAN]

It's a term that has undertones of unconscious bias. I have heard people describe Rocky as a bombscare and in the next breath mention Ambrose. Why not Hanlon, McGregor, Fish or any other central defender we've had over the years. They've all had their share of mistakes.

Bing AI said this "The term “bombscare” is a derogatory term used to describe a player who is perceived to be prone to making mistakes or errors on the field. It is not inherently racist, but it can be used in a racist manner when directed towards black footballers. The use of this term can be seen as a form of racial stereotyping and can contribute to a hostile environment for black players in football 1. It is important to be mindful of the language we use and how it can affect others".

I've never heard any non-black defender referred to as a "bombscare", yet almost every black defender we've had inevitably gets referred to as one.

[PortoHSC]

Is this thread not meant to be about transfers and transfer rumours :/

[easty]

I've never heard any non-black defender referred to as a "bombscare", yet almost every black defender we've had inevitably gets referred to as one.

Took me about 5 mins to find these by searching the term Bombscare on here

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?186192-Growing-a-football-team&highlight=bombscare - Christophe Berra

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?161734-Stack&highlight=bombscare - Graham Stack

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?37169-Steven-Pressley&highlight=bombscare - Steven Pressley

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?361266-Porto/page4&highlight=bombscare - Rob Jones

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?276348-Transfers-Watmore-Haynes-amp-Boateng-IN-NO-More-Pics-Videos-On-This-Thread-Please/page11&highlight=bombscare - Paul Hanlon

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?324173-Dundee-FC-v-Hibernian-FC-k-o-12-30/page4&highlight=bombscare - Steven Whittaker

:aok:

[HibsGW]

Porteous was regularly called a bombscare as well

[Iain G]

I’m pleased you said it, I was wondering if I was the victim of a joke I wasn’t getting 😂

I guess it didn't fly 😁

[1620]

Is this thread not meant to be about transfers and transfer rumours :/

👍👍 I logged into this in order to get any late transfer news and find pages and pages of mind blowing drivel.

[VoltaireHibs]

Getting right back on track.

Is Amos a bombscare? 😁

Hopefully we get a bit of good news and we can all stop bickering and see some more green shoots.

[tonyrougier123]

Any rumoured new Centre Backs? whole defence is a bombscare! 😉

[Hibby70]

The table at the top show the distribution of left, right and both footed defenders, 61.5% Right Footed, 29.9 Left footed and 8.6 ambi-pedal players
On that same table it is interesting that defenders are the least ambipedal of players by some distance too.
:greengrin

I can't believe that only 8% of defenders can ride a bike

[HoboHarry]

I can't believe that only 8% of defenders can ride a bike
Nae wonder they all get posh cars...

[Brightside]

I've never heard any non-black defender referred to as a "bombscare", yet almost every black defender we've had inevitably gets referred to as one.

Ive never understood why that would be the case. Im sure I hear it at every game and its no just directed at black players.

[Stairway 2 7]

For me, the term “bombscare” doesnae necessarily mean “bad defender”. It means that the player has it in them to turn a nothing situation into a terrible one quickly. I think that term fit with Ambrose, Bamba and Rocky. Also Porteous. It’s lapses in concentration that cause errors. Usually defenders who are actually decent with the ball at feet. You’d never describe someone like Mcgregor or Rob Jones as a bombscare. Doesn’t mean they didn’t make mistakes, just that when they did it was rarely a “bombscare” moment. I’d say Will Fish is similar to that.

Zembarnardi and Hogg got called bombscares often rightly 4-4, I think its often for centre half's who dribble and play out a bit like Rocky Efe and Porteous as you say. Players like Daz tackle and pass to a midfielder, oh I miss him

[Brightside]

👍👍 I logged into this in order to get any late transfer news and find pages and pages of mind blowing drivel.

Hey this is a good day. If it helps - we except an announcement today.

[Caversham Green]

Don't know much about this guy though is he any better than we have ? , if he is I wonder why his club that's struggling in league 1 haven't him on a longer contract or maybe more clubs interested in him ? .

He's likely to be on Championship level wages as all his contracts were signed when Reading were a fairly safe Championship club. As things stand Reading simply can't afford that level of wage now while McIntyre is far too good for League 1 (potentially League 2) wages.

A potential problem is that Reading have already sold two central defenders both of whom have played on the left side - Holmes to (Premiership club) Luton and Nelson Abbey to Olympiakos (not yet confirmed but almost certain to go through). Holmes has been loaned back for the rest of the season but it still leaves Reading very light in that area. For that reason I could see them hanging on to Tom till the summer.

FWIW I think McIntyre is the best of those three.

[Brightside]

He's likely to be on Championship level wages as all his contracts were signed when Reading were a fairly safe Championship club. As things stand Reading simply can't afford that level of wage now while McIntyre is far too good for League 1 (potentially League 2) wages.

A potential problem is that Reading have already sold two central defenders both of whom have played on the left side - Holmes to (Premiership club) Luton and Nelson Abbey to Olympiakos (not yet confirmed but almost certain to go through). Holmes has been loaned back for the rest of the season but it still leaves Reading very light in that area. For that reason I could see them hanging on to Tom till the summer.

FWIW I think McIntyre is the best of those three.

Thats why the deal fell through last week. The hope was the issue had been fixed.

[tonyrougier123]

He's likely to be on Championship level wages as all his contracts were signed when Reading were a fairly safe Championship club. As things stand Reading simply can't afford that level of wage now while McIntyre is far too good for League 1 (potentially League 2) wages.

A potential problem is that Reading have already sold two central defenders both of whom have played on the left side - Holmes to (Premiership club) Luton and Nelson Abbey to Olympiakos (not yet confirmed but almost certain to go through). Holmes has been loaned back for the rest of the season but it still leaves Reading very light in that area. For that reason I could see them hanging on to Tom till the summer.

FWIW I think McIntyre is the best of those three.

Is Tom McIntyre actually a hibs target? Can’t see anything but English sides after him 🤷*♂️

[Caversham Green]

Is Tom McIntyre actually a hibs target? Can’t see anything but English sides after him 🤷*♂️

I don't know. There's actually no noises down here of him going anywhere, which surprises me given the other two finding clubs quite easily.

[SHODAN]

Took me about 5 mins to find these by searching the term Bombscare on here

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?186192-Growing-a-football-team&highlight=bombscare - Christophe Berra

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?161734-Stack&highlight=bombscare - Graham Stack

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?37169-Steven-Pressley&highlight=bombscare - Steven Pressley

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?361266-Porto/page4&highlight=bombscare - Rob Jones

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?276348-Transfers-Watmore-Haynes-amp-Boateng-IN-NO-More-Pics-Videos-On-This-Thread-Please/page11&highlight=bombscare - Paul Hanlon

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?324173-Dundee-FC-v-Hibernian-FC-k-o-12-30/page4&highlight=bombscare - Steven Whittaker

:aok:

Fair enough!

[WhileTheChief..]

Continue to have an opinion for sure,but take a bit of care whilst you do so? There's nothing to lose and I guarantee you'll be listened to more respectfully.




You can criticise a viewpoint without criticising the person you're responding to.

Agree with both these posts, good points, well made.

(only shortened them down to keep the thread tidier)

[Torto7]

Thats a couple of people saying he would be a fantastic signing, based on what? I hadn't heard of the guy before he was mentioned on here and on the rare chance I've seen Reading play on tv I don't think he would of been playing.

He's lost his way a bit but was genuinely looking like a Prem league player at one point. He's very solid, good pace, good leap can play out from the back.

[Torto7]

I've never heard any non-black defender referred to as a "bombscare", yet almost every black defender we've had inevitably gets referred to as one.

:agree: I'd mostly agree with this. There's quite a few casual terms for black defenders(mixed race guys don't get the same treatment) ie, bombscare, rash, physical. A lot of clichés. Bushiri isn't even that tall by CH standards he's broad but not tall and fairly quick. I'm not calling anyone racist it just seems like there's a laziness when describing a lot of black guys at CH when they make mistakes no worse than the players beside them. Black goalies get the same treatment.

[greenlex]

Agree with both these posts, good points, well made.

(only shortened them down to keep the thread tidier)

Keeping it tidier????? It’s a bomb scare.

[California-Hibs]

Strange that the Amos deal hasn't been concluded/announced. When Hibs put up on the official site that he was training with us, I thought that would be that because we never announce a players on trial etc on the main site.
Hopefully it's not hit a snag or we've changed our mind. Really good feeling about that signing.

[andrew70]

Strange that the Amos deal hasn't been concluded/announced. When Hibs put up on the official site that he was training with us, I thought that would be that because we never announce a players on trial etc on the main site.
Hopefully it's not hit a snag or we've changed our mind. Really good feeling about that signing.

Hibs Observer said his trial had been extended to include this week.

[tonyrougier123]

Why does it feel like we sign defenders on a “you’ll dae” basis.
Canny emphasis enough how much we really need a defence. A big solid nae nonsense centre half a pacey hard grafting left back. Not asking for much 🤷*♂️🤦*♂️😂

[JohnM1875]

Hibs Observer said his trial had been extended to include this week.

Fair enough. A risk as anyone could offer him a contract, but then maybe there isn’t any interest from anyone else.

[Paloschi]

Heard a rumour we are after Rob Dickie on loan from Bristol City. Signed for them from QPR for about £1m in the summer on a 4 year deal but hasn’t been first choice for the majority of the season.

Right sided CH. McDermott apparently worked with him before.

[andrew70]

Why does it feel like we sign defenders on a “you’ll dae” basis.
Canny emphasis enough how much we really need a defence. A big solid nae nonsense centre half a pacey hard grafting left back. Not asking for much 🤷*♂️🤦*♂️😂

We’ve got a very good left back.

Centre half to come.

[Heisenberg]

Heard a rumour we are after Rob Dickie on loan from Bristol City. Signed for them from QPR for about £1m in the summer on a 4 year deal but hasn’t been first choice for the majority of the season.

Right sided CH. McDermott apparently worked with him before.

He’s been starting for them regularly by the looks of it.