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truehibernian
04-01-2024, 07:53 PM
A mistakes one thing, to like a post from hearts about beating us in a derby then not even admitting to doing it isn’t a mistake.

“I was hacked” haha. Don’t care where he ends up, as long as it isn’t back in a hibs jersey

To me it showed the culture at the club under Johnson to be honest. Hacked off player not supported by a feeble manager posts stupidly - Ethan Laidlaw did likewise - as did HMcK - I’d put it down to them rightly being peed off at LJ and being young and stupid. They’ve been proved right too 👍

04Sauzee
04-01-2024, 07:55 PM
See Bournemouth are trying to buy an Ecuador under 20 international for £5m.

19 years old and meant to be a real talent with a few other big clubs interested.

I wonder if this is the kind of signing that we could get sent on loan, either to get a work permit or to get used to the British style of football?
Óscar Zambrano? Man Utd and Luton were/are meant to be interested.

The Modfather
04-01-2024, 07:56 PM
To me it showed the culture at the club under Johnson to be honest. Hacked off player not supported by a feeble manager posts stupidly - Ethan Laidlaw did likewise - as did HMcK - I’d put it down to them rightly being peed off at LJ and being young and stupid. They’ve been proved right too 👍

Speaking of which, anyone know how he’s getting on at Brentford in their B team?

LaMotta
04-01-2024, 08:03 PM
A mistakes one thing, to like a post from hearts about beating us in a derby then not even admitting to doing it isn’t a mistake.

“I was hacked” haha. Don’t care where he ends up, as long as it isn’t back in a hibs jersey

I'll agree with this, largely because he was well out his depth playing in the Scottish Premiership.

Tambo
04-01-2024, 08:04 PM
https://x.com/record_sport/status/1742988218235273425?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Reuben McAllister going on loan to Kelty Hearts by the looks of it.

Gives him 5 months or so to get some first team football.

bingo70
04-01-2024, 08:04 PM
Óscar Zambrano? Man Utd and Luton were/are meant to be interested.

Yeah that’s him.

I know it probably seems a ridiculous suggestion but if the deal with Foley goes through then I think loans like that are really the whole point of it.

He wouldn’t be ready to play first team football in the Premiership and he wouldn’t get a work permit for England. Without the multi club structure they’d just have to write the player off for now and potentially have to pay £25/30m for him if he joins another club and progresses as expected.

Of course he could go to another club in the structure, not sure if sending him to Lorient would help him adjust to English football or solve the work permit issue though?

Dare say I’m giving this too much thought as I’m sure it won’t happen, just fancied a break from moaning about something 😂

Stuart93
04-01-2024, 08:09 PM
With your criteria for Hibs players I'm glad your not in charge of transfer activity :agree:

Hmm this a bit of an assumption is it not?

To be honest, having the correct attitude is definitely part of my criteria for a hibs player. Unfortunately, that’s been lacking with some of the players we’ve brought in and it shows in how we’ve performed.

I couldn’t give a **** if he fell out with the manager, work harder and be better for your team, that should’ve been his attitude. Not going in a huff.

King Cosell
04-01-2024, 08:09 PM
I’m not against the idea of him coming back in the summer and showing how much he’s progressed after a couple of loan spells, if he can do that then great, he’s certainly not what we need now though.

I’ve only skim read the thread but I don’t think many are suggesting he should come back now?

For what it's worth, he's Shrewsbury's most valuable player on Transfermark at 600k, so, if the club wants to sell, we'll have offers at the end of the season.

Stuart93
04-01-2024, 08:10 PM
To me it showed the culture at the club under Johnson to be honest. Hacked off player not supported by a feeble manager posts stupidly - Ethan Laidlaw did likewise - as did HMcK - I’d put it down to them rightly being peed off at LJ and being young and stupid. They’ve been proved right too 👍

Could argue LJ’s been correct in that scenario too as none of the players you’ve mentioned have amounted to much so far.

Obviously special dispensation for HMcK given his condition and a player I really hope will kick on for us under NM

Gmack7
04-01-2024, 08:11 PM
See Bournemouth are trying to buy an Ecuador under 20 international for £5m.

19 years old and meant to be a real talent with a few other big clubs interested.

I wonder if this is the kind of signing that we could get sent on loan, either to get a work permit or to get used to the British style of football?

A 19 year old you say, not another project please 😀

LaMotta
04-01-2024, 08:20 PM
For what it's worth, he's Shrewsbury's most valuable player on Transfermark at 600k, so, if the club wants to sell, we'll have offers at the end of the season.

I would say its probably not worth paying much attention to given that it also has Jimmy Jeggo valued at £600k and Delferiere at £400k. It has Devlin at Hearts worth a supposed £800k FFS. They are clearly plucking figures out the sky.

Paulie Walnuts
04-01-2024, 09:42 PM
Also, wanting kenneh back and reckoning he’d improve us is revisionism.

He was really poor on the ball & was lazy. He’d be terrible as part of a 2 in midfield.

I still remember his tracking back whilst ‘trying’ to tackle Nouble. Lazy doesn’t even cover it.

B.H.F.C
04-01-2024, 09:56 PM
Montgomery saying it looks like Fish will be here for the rest of the season.

And that loan players are what we’ll most likely be looking at. I don’t mind that in January, done all right out of it previously. Again stressing that anyone coming in, is coming to play.

JohnM1875
04-01-2024, 10:07 PM
Montgomery saying it looks like Fish will be here for the rest of the season.

And that loan players are what we’ll most likely be looking at. I don’t mind that in January, done all right out of it previously. Again stressing that anyone coming in, is coming to play.

When have we done well out of it previously? We’ve had one good January window in as long as I can remember. Allan, Maclaren and Kamberi. Other than that it’s been poor. Majority of them loan signings.

Was really hoping the Foley deal would have been approved and changed it this window. Quite deflated now

Trinity Hibee
04-01-2024, 10:11 PM
If he's not good enough for the team that finished second bottom overall out of 29 teams in the MLS that doesn't fill me with confidence that he can come in and start for Hibs.

He wasn’t good enough in his last season with Hearts

B.H.F.C
04-01-2024, 10:15 PM
When have we done well out of it previously? We’ve had one good January window in as long as I can remember. Allan, Maclaren and Kamberi. Other than that it’s been poor. Majority of them loan signings.

Was really hoping the Foley deal would have been approved and changed it this window. Quite deflated now

Go back a bit and we got Stokes on loan in January. That turned out no bad.

Obviously the three you mention did well when they came in. To a lesser extent McNulty and Omeonga did well first time round. Docherty when he came in as well.

Wasn’t a loan but Jackson Irvine did well coming in on a short term deal in January. Egan-Riley on loan did well last year.

Point is I think it gives you a chance to get a decent player that you might not normally get because they want to get out and play for a few months until the end of the season.

2022 was the one disastrous year when we went for too many of the wrong type of loans.

JohnM1875
04-01-2024, 10:17 PM
Go back a bit and we got Stokes on loan in January. That turned out no bad.

Obviously the three you mention did well when they came in. To a lesser extent McNulty and Omeonga did well first time round. Docherty when he came in as well.

Wasn’t a loan but Jackson Irvine did well coming in on a short term deal in January. Egan-Riley on loan did well last year.

Point is I think it gives you a chance to get a decent player that you might not normally get because they want to get out and play for a few months until the end of the season.

2022 was the one disastrous year when we went for too many of the wrong type of loans.

We need more than one or two players to come in and be first team ready though, that’s my main worry.

Smartie
04-01-2024, 10:20 PM
When have we done well out of it previously? We’ve had one good January window in as long as I can remember. Allan, Maclaren and Kamberi. Other than that it’s been poor. Majority of them loan signings.

Was really hoping the Foley deal would have been approved and changed it this window. Quite deflated now

I reckon our January windows are generally decent, it's the summer ones where we're meant to do the serious business and lay down the bones of the squad that have been abject.

We're pretty good at getting loan players in who make a difference. Even last January was pretty decent, with Egan-Riley and Jeggo both adding something that had previously been missing and helping us salvage something respectable from the season by finishing 5th.

B.H.F.C
04-01-2024, 10:20 PM
We need more than one or two players to come in and be first team ready though, that’s my main worry.

We were never going to be chucking millions at it this month.

A couple of players can make a big difference, saw it last year. Montgomery already said he wants four as well.

B.H.F.C
04-01-2024, 10:22 PM
I reckon our January windows are generally decent, it's the summer ones where we're meant to do the serious business and lay down the bones of the squad that have been abject.

We're pretty good at getting loan players in who make a difference. Even last January was pretty decent, with Egan-Riley and Jeggo both adding something that had previously been missing and helping us salvage something respectable from the season by finishing 5th.

First paragraph, totally agree. The one year we did actually add to the spine of the team in the summer (2020/21 with Gogic and Nisbet) we unsurprisingly got off to a good start and had a good season.

King Cosell
04-01-2024, 10:44 PM
Anyone know what's happening with the Melkersen move? Is it done and dusted?

USA_Hibee
04-01-2024, 10:58 PM
Anyone know what's happening with the Melkersen move? Is it done and dusted?

As far as I'm aware it was complete around a month ago.

aberhibsfc
04-01-2024, 10:58 PM
Anyone know what's happening with the Melkersen move? Is it done and dusted?

Was sold for a million.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-striker-sold-for-ps12m-with-significant-sell-on-clause-as-club-bosses-hail-transfer-business-4439852

Not one I'd have been desperate to lose, but we're going to need the money to fund any movement in. So it was probably best for everyone involved.

NGoloGrantie
04-01-2024, 11:14 PM
Surely we will see one maybe two incomings before we jet off to Dubai for this training camp.

Will be quite tough signing new players whilst the rest of the squad are half the world away. Unless we sign some players from Australia [emoji2369]


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King Cosell
04-01-2024, 11:48 PM
Stuart Findlay's deal at Oxford is up at the end of the season, so they'll probably be looking to sell this window. It would also weaken our main rivals for 4th place.

Haven't give up on 3rd but Hearts' next 5 are Dundee H, Aberdeen H, Dundee A, St Johnstone A, Motherwell H. They could have it wrapped up by mid Feb. But, as Greavsie used to say, it's a funny old game, Saint.

greenlex
04-01-2024, 11:57 PM
Go back a bit and we got Stokes on loan in January. That turned out no bad.

Obviously the three you mention did well when they came in. To a lesser extent McNulty and Omeonga did well first time round. Docherty when he came in as well.

Wasn’t a loan but Jackson Irvine did well coming in on a short term deal in January. Egan-Riley on loan did well last year.

Point is I think it gives you a chance to get a decent player that you might not normally get because they want to get out and play for a few months until the end of the season.

2022 was the one disastrous year when we went for too many of the wrong type of loans.
Kris Commons another.

500miles
05-01-2024, 12:00 AM
Could argue LJ’s been correct in that scenario too as none of the players you’ve mentioned have amounted to much so far.

Obviously special dispensation for HMcK given his condition and a player I really hope will kick on for us under NM

Could argue that he moved a load of young guys miles from home, treated them like garbage with rumours of bullying hanging around the club like a bad smell and then proceeded to lose 2 jobs in 3 months.

Kennah has went to a Scottish Prem club and a league 1 club at the ages of 19 and 20 and nailed down a place as a first team starter both times and that's neither easy nor the norm from the players we farm out for development.

greenlex
05-01-2024, 12:02 AM
Hmm this a bit of an assumption is it not?

To be honest, having the correct attitude is definitely part of my criteria for a hibs player. Unfortunately, that’s been lacking with some of the players we’ve brought in and it shows in how we’ve performed.

I couldn’t give a **** if he fell out with the manager, work harder and be better for your team, that should’ve been his attitude. Not going in a huff.

Funnily enough Brian McDermott reckon the character of a player is more important than talent and I agree. He says if they don’t have the right character they will be quickly passed up. The days of maverick types are a thing of the past I think. World football has changed but still a bit to go.

greenlex
05-01-2024, 12:08 AM
It’s just another missed opportunity for Hibs. The money we’ve squandered on development players or other players from the English lower leagues is biting our bums. We have good players in Scotland, Paul McGinn for example who is a proper right back would have been a really good guy to still have on the books.

I wonder who was behind his departure?

PHeffernan
05-01-2024, 03:07 AM
Stuart Findlay's deal at Oxford is up at the end of the season, so they'll probably be looking to sell this window. It would also weaken our main rivals for 4th place.

Haven't give up on 3rd but Hearts' next 5 are Dundee H, Aberdeen H, Dundee A, St Johnstone A, Motherwell H. They could have it wrapped up by mid Feb. But, as Greavsie used to say, it's a funny old game, Saint.

Nah, he is only 18 months into a 4 year contract

Since90+2
05-01-2024, 06:48 AM
Funnily enough Brian McDermott reckon the character of a player is more important than talent and I agree. He says if they don’t have the right character they will be quickly passed up. The days of maverick types are a thing of the past I think. World football has changed but still a bit to go.

Character is only important if they have the required ability to go with it. Plenty guys playing in the lower leagues of Scotland who are great characters, doesn't mean they can play at our level.

If that's what McDermott has said it's a tad worrying IMO.

Alex Trager
05-01-2024, 06:54 AM
Surely we will see one maybe two incomings before we jet off to Dubai for this training camp.

Will be quite tough signing new players whilst the rest of the squad are half the world away. Unless we sign some players from Australia [emoji2369]


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Tbf, Dubai is still (8) Half the world away (8) from Oz.

Not the full world away that Scotland is ofc.

Rumble de Thump
05-01-2024, 07:40 AM
Character is only important if they have the required ability to go with it. Plenty guys playing in the lower leagues of Scotland who are great characters, doesn't mean they can play at our level.

If that's what McDermott has said it's a tad worrying IMO.

Do you genuinely think he's planning to bring players to the club who he believes don't have the required ability?

Cocaine&Caviar
05-01-2024, 07:42 AM
Also, wanting kenneh back and reckoning he’d improve us is revisionism.

He was really poor on the ball & was lazy. He’d be terrible as part of a 2 in midfield.

Lazy isnt accurate

FastEddieFelson
05-01-2024, 07:55 AM
Character is only important if they have the required ability to go with it. Plenty guys playing in the lower leagues of Scotland who are great characters, doesn't mean they can play at our level.

If that's what McDermott has said it's a tad worrying IMO.

You know, there's quite a difference between having good character and being a good character...or are you just determined to be negative?

Hibs90
05-01-2024, 08:31 AM
Just seen this

We should do our upmost to bring him to ER. Everything our midfield needs

Docherty wasn't great, had a few good games. His performance in the drubbing in the derby at home was nothing short of abysmal.

Hibi
05-01-2024, 08:34 AM
Docherty wasn't great, had a few good games. His performance in the drubbing in the derby at home was nothing short of abysmal.

Agreed, liked him up until that point as well but he was anonymous that day.

Paulie Walnuts
05-01-2024, 08:37 AM
Docherty wasn't great, had a few good games. His performance in the drubbing in the derby at home was nothing short of abysmal.

He was terrible that day. So was everybody else.

He had a G/A per game when he was here from centre mid. Someone pointed out a good few of them were against BSC Glasgow so even if you remove that game then it was a G/A once every 1.75 games. Thats miles better than any of our current players. He was very effective when he was here.

JimBHibees
05-01-2024, 09:05 AM
Character is only important if they have the required ability to go with it. Plenty guys playing in the lower leagues of Scotland who are great characters, doesn't mean they can play at our level.

If that's what McDermott has said it's a tad worrying IMO.

Obviously his point is character with ability not just character.

JimBHibees
05-01-2024, 09:06 AM
Docherty wasn't great, had a few good games. His performance in the drubbing in the derby at home was nothing short of abysmal.

Unfair to point out just him in that regard the whole team were appalling. Actually thought Omeonga was much worse.

Heisenberg
05-01-2024, 09:07 AM
Jonathan Klinsmann of interest apparently. Goalkeeper and Jurgens son.

https://x.com/johnmcg442/status/1743201937892184194?s=46&t=bdJsB3RQwSUdEBTbKsgiuQ

Mcbizz1998
05-01-2024, 09:09 AM
Doig off to the **** it looks like. We will get a sell on % from Verona I presume?

Unseen work
05-01-2024, 09:10 AM
Jonathan Klinsmann of interest apparently. Goalkeeper and Jurgens son.

https://x.com/johnmcg442/status/1743201937892184194?s=46&t=bdJsB3RQwSUdEBTbKsgiuQ

Odd one. Doesn’t appear to have played many games.

Assume Wollacott is off as he wants games and Boruc the same - so now we’ll bring in another goalie to not play

Ronniekirk
05-01-2024, 09:16 AM
Odd one. Doesn’t appear to have played many games.

Assume Wollacott is off as he wants games and Boruc the same - so now we’ll bring in another goalie to not play
We don’t seem to be able to identify good goalkeepers or bring young keepers through the system that become No 1

Smartie
05-01-2024, 09:16 AM
Doig off to the **** it looks like. We will get a sell on % from Verona I presume?

If he goes there then it will be on the never never with bucketloads of future fees if certain nonsense that will never come to pass happens, so it will be a % of that.

In many more ways than one, they're absolutely the worst club he could join.

Spike Mandela
05-01-2024, 09:17 AM
Doig off to the **** it looks like. We will get a sell on % from Verona I presume?

How on earth can they afford the asking price? Would hate Rangers to be involved in any deal that involves money due to Hibs as I have no faith that their financial model is robust enough to last long enough to pay it.

Smartie
05-01-2024, 09:18 AM
Unfair to point out just him in that regard the whole team were appalling. Actually thought Omeonga was much worse.

It's a shame that game seems to now define Docherty and Omeonga - as bad as they were, they had many more good performances for us and that terrible night was rare and very unusual.

Heisenberg
05-01-2024, 09:20 AM
Odd one. Doesn’t appear to have played many games.

Assume Wollacott is off as he wants games and Boruc the same - so now we’ll bring in another goalie to not play

Yeah it surely must just be cheap cover. Wollacott cost a fee and I’d assume will be on a half decent wage so might make sense to replace him if we can.

Ronniekirk
05-01-2024, 09:22 AM
Stuart Findlay's deal at Oxford is up at the end of the season, so they'll probably be looking to sell this window. It would also weaken our main rivals for 4th place.

Haven't give up on 3rd but Hearts' next 5 are Dundee H, Aberdeen H, Dundee A, St Johnstone A, Motherwell H. They could have it wrapped up by mid Feb. But, as Greavsie used to say, it's a funny old game, Saint.
We have no chance if third imo As things stand we are clinging on to sixth place because some teams below us still have games in hand
To push on we really need players in this window that can come in and improve us Hopefully Alf gets back soon and Monty can rehabilitate Mckirdy tgey way he has with Jair

The Modfather
05-01-2024, 09:45 AM
Jonathan Klinsmann of interest apparently. Goalkeeper and Jurgens son.

https://x.com/johnmcg442/status/1743201937892184194?s=46&t=bdJsB3RQwSUdEBTbKsgiuQ

A 26 year old goalkeeper who has only played 52 games. I’d not have thought he’s coming in to be number 1 next season in place of Marshall so presumably it’s nothing more than cover for the rest of the season.

I’m a bit confused about the keeper situation. We look to have admitted a mistake in signing Wollacot and will loan him out and probably try to move him on given even when he was fit he couldn’t oust Marshall no matter how badly he was playing. Boruc out on loan.

Where does it leave Murray Johnson? A season not playing any first team football because we needed a 3rd choice keeper for Europe (and then signed Boruc). Not long turned 19 so young but gone are the days of keepers not getting their chance until into their 20s. Maybe he’s not progressing in line with his potential, but can’t help but feel like we will never actually bring him through and he won’t go on to be our number one. Obviously time on his side though.

bingo70
05-01-2024, 09:47 AM
Odd one. Doesn’t appear to have played many games.

Assume Wollacott is off as he wants games and Boruc the same - so now we’ll bring in another goalie to not play

I don’t think it’s that odd that a goalie of his age hasn’t played that many games. It’s very difficult for young goalies to break into the first team, especially if they’re at big clubs who have experienced senior goalies ahead of them.

Nicho87
05-01-2024, 09:47 AM
I’d rather we signed his dad for 6 months

Unseen work
05-01-2024, 09:56 AM
I don’t think it’s that odd that a goalie of his age hasn’t played that many games. It’s very difficult for young goalies to break into the first team, especially if they’re at big clubs who have experienced senior goalies ahead of them.

To a certain degree yes.

But he’s 26 and been at Hertha Berlin, St Gallen and LA Galaxy.

I’m not saying it’s a bad signing as I’ve no idea if he’s good, just on paper it seems another one where a backup goalie isn’t a priority. We’ve got 4, two are leaving on loan potentially and we bring another in

bingo70
05-01-2024, 10:05 AM
To a certain degree yes.

But he’s 26 and been at Hertha Berlin, St Gallen and LA Galaxy.

I’m not saying it’s a bad signing as I’ve no idea if he’s good, just on paper it seems another one where a backup goalie isn’t a priority. We’ve got 4, two are leaving on loan potentially and we bring another in

I think we are letting Wollacott go as he’s not very good and never likely to challenge Marshall. We are letting Boruc go because he wants first team football and not any better than Murray Johnstone.

If we are losing 2 goalies and brining in 1, presumably one we feel can challenge Marshall then I think it makes sense.

I’ve no idea if Klinsmann is any good or not but I think we need to be realistic about who we can attract as a sub goalie during the January transfer window.

Rumble de Thump
05-01-2024, 10:10 AM
I think we are letting Wollacott go as he’s not very good and never likely to challenge Marshall. We are letting Boruc go because he wants first team football and not any better than Murray Johnstone.

If we are losing 2 goalies and brining in 1, presumably one we feel can challenge Marshall then I think it makes sense.

I’ve no idea if Klinsmann is any good or not but I think we need to be realistic about who we can attract as a sub goalie during the January transfer window.

Joe is at the African Cup of Nations so won't be available to play for us for a while anyway.

AlbertK86
05-01-2024, 10:24 AM
Agreed, liked him up until that point as well but he was anonymous that day.

Would rather get Egan Riley than Docherty … far better attitude and player


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Springbank
05-01-2024, 10:27 AM
Wonder if Vente & Kukharevych would work as a front 2 in a 442 ?

Big Myk isn't getting game time at Swansea

GloryGlory
05-01-2024, 10:46 AM
Wonder if Vente & Kukharevych would work as a front 2 in a 442 ?

Big Myk isn't getting game time at Swansea

Injured?

EGL2000
05-01-2024, 11:03 AM
Wonder if Vente & Kukharevych would work as a front 2 in a 442 ?

Big Myk isn't getting game time at Swansea

They paid a pretty large fee of 2 mill for him. Would imagine they would want to recoup a decent amount of that if getting rid.

hibees 7062
05-01-2024, 11:26 AM
Kris Moore done deal I here

Ozyhibby
05-01-2024, 11:36 AM
I think we are letting Wollacott go as he’s not very good and never likely to challenge Marshall. We are letting Boruc go because he wants first team football and not any better than Murray Johnstone.

If we are losing 2 goalies and brining in 1, presumably one we feel can challenge Marshall then I think it makes sense.

I’ve no idea if Klinsmann is any good or not but I think we need to be realistic about who we can attract as a sub goalie during the January transfer window.

It’s fair to say the goalie situation is a shambles. We are paying wages out to guys who have no chance of playing.


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Ozyhibby
05-01-2024, 11:37 AM
Kris Moore done deal I here

Excited….not.


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Smartie
05-01-2024, 11:38 AM
To a certain degree yes.

But he’s 26 and been at Hertha Berlin, St Gallen and LA Galaxy.

I’m not saying it’s a bad signing as I’ve no idea if he’s good, just on paper it seems another one where a backup goalie isn’t a priority. We’ve got 4, two are leaving on loan potentially and we bring another in

Is there anything more "Hibs" than signing back up goalkeepers when we're in urgent need of signing players to go straight into a number of outfield positions?

greenginger
05-01-2024, 11:38 AM
How on earth can they afford the asking price? Would hate Rangers to be involved in any deal that involves money due to Hibs as I have no faith that their financial model is robust enough to last long enough to pay it.

Would you not enjoy the The’s being docked points then wound up for a debt due to us !

Unseen work
05-01-2024, 11:39 AM
Kris Moore done deal I here

Loan I take it? Any option to buy?

From what clips I saw he’s a centre half but interestingly in a recent article it says he’s been playing more as right back this season

hibees 7062
05-01-2024, 11:39 AM
Excited….not.


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I know . Especially when we’re letting a defender go out on loan

04Sauzee
05-01-2024, 11:40 AM
Loan I take it? Any option to buy?

From what clips I saw he’s a centre half but interestingly in a recent article it says he’s been playing more as right back this season

Can you share the clips, haven't been able to find any for some reason.

jakeshibs
05-01-2024, 11:42 AM
Kris Moore done deal I here

Is he any good?

Unseen work
05-01-2024, 11:43 AM
Can you share the clips, haven't been able to find any for some reason.

It was on his Instagram mate - Kris_moore3

04Sauzee
05-01-2024, 11:45 AM
It was on his Instagram mate - Kris_moore3

Never thought of looking there 🤪👍

Hibbyradge
05-01-2024, 11:46 AM
Excited….not.


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I don't think I've ever been excited about us signing a centre back.

hibby rae
05-01-2024, 11:50 AM
I don't think I've ever been excited about us signing a centre back.

I was delighted when Daz signed, had been the **** POTY, and getting Efe was a real coup, was also pretty pleased when we signed Sol.

Scotty Leither
05-01-2024, 11:51 AM
I’d like to see us move for Armstrong of Kilmarnock. There must surely be some of the Melkerson money available to spend ???

Ozyhibby
05-01-2024, 11:53 AM
I’d like to see us move for Armstrong of Kilmarnock. There must surely be some of the Melkerson money available to spend ???

There is, we are going to decorate the gym at East Mains.[emoji106]


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Unseen work
05-01-2024, 11:59 AM
I’d like to see us move for Armstrong of Kilmarnock. There must surely be some of the Melkerson money available to spend ???

He’d cost too much, just signed an extension recently.

Paulie Walnuts
05-01-2024, 12:02 PM
I was delighted when Daz signed, had been the **** POTY, and getting Efe was a real coup, was also pretty pleased when we signed Sol.

I was absolutely delighted when we signed Efe :agree:

badabing67
05-01-2024, 12:10 PM
Docherty wasn't great, had a few good games. His performance in the drubbing in the derby at home was nothing short of abysmal.

Plus he couldn't get away quick enough and will probably avoid us in a similar way to Ross McCrorie

King Cosell
05-01-2024, 12:11 PM
Docherty wasn't great, had a few good games. His performance in the drubbing in the derby at home was nothing short of abysmal.

He only played 6 games for us, take away the goal against Killie and nobody's talking about him. He'd improve us but we should be looking at his performances for Hull, and I wouldn't be breaking the bank for a 27yo with not much sell-on value. Joined Hull in League One so probably not on high wages, at 27 will understandably go to the club that offers the most money.

GreenPJ
05-01-2024, 12:25 PM
It’s fair to say the goalie situation is a shambles. We are paying wages out to guys who have no chance of playing.


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The goalie situation is not ideal but don't think its fair to call it a shambles. Europe determined that we needed 3 keepers to compete (thus we bought Boruc). Young Johnstone went out on loan to QOTS(?) and then Wollacot was injured and Marshall picked up an injury in one of the early European games. We recalled Johnstone as cover and by the time we were out of Europe the loan window had closed - at least that was my understanding.

I think if Boruc want's game time then its right to let him go out on loan, Johnstone may not be ready to be reserve keeper so a loan in Jan would be good for him to try and get some game time. Wollacot hasn't done enough or they don't think he has done enough to really pressurise Marshall who has been very good for last 2-3 months and he probably wants to try and be a No 1 somewhere.

I think either keeping hold of Wollacot until the Summer or letting him go and getting a reserve keeper in makes sense (on the basis that Boruc and Johnstone both go out on loan to get some game time). I think the main question for the goalkeeping position is what happens in the Summer. Will Marshall want to/be kept on as No 1 and if not is the intent if Boruc/Johnstone have had game time for the second half of the season do they see one of them stepping up to No1.

Tyler Durden
05-01-2024, 12:30 PM
He only played 6 games for us, take away the goal against Killie and nobody's talking about him. He'd improve us but we should be looking at his performances for Hull, and I wouldn't be breaking the bank for a 27yo with not much sell-on value. Joined Hull in League One so probably not on high wages, at 27 will understandably go to the club that offers the most money.

I think you're under estimating the wages that Hull would pay.

Also his performances for Hull have been good and he'd immediately be one of our best players IMO. Our most consistent player is probably Joe Newell, who spent his career prior to Hibs yo-yoing between League One and Championship. Hearts best player this season (with one obvious exception) is arguably Frankie Kent who spent his career doing the same, lots of time in League One.

Good experienced players from League One/low end Championship would absolutely improve us.

B.H.F.C
05-01-2024, 12:31 PM
I don't think I've ever been excited about us signing a centre back.

I’d be excited about the prospect of winning more games and a competent, experienced centre half would massively increase our chances of doing that IMO. The talk has been of only signing players that are ready to go right in to the team so I doubt folk will be particularly enthused about someone without first team experience coming in.

Lago
05-01-2024, 12:33 PM
I would say its probably not worth paying much attention to given that it also has Jimmy Jeggo valued at £600k and Delferiere at £400k. It has Devlin at Hearts worth a supposed £800k FFS. They are clearly plucking figures out the sky.


Plus he couldn't get away quick enough and will probably avoid us in a similar way to Ross McCrorie
Agree never showed any real interest in being at Hibs long term.

Tyler Durden
05-01-2024, 12:33 PM
Would rather get Egan Riley than Docherty … far better attitude and player


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Why not both?

Not sure Docherty had a bad attitude.... he just had better offers than Hibs in the past. Maybe that's no longer the case and he'd be happy settling somewhere on a long deal.

bingo70
05-01-2024, 12:35 PM
I don't think I've ever been excited about us signing a centre back.

There’s people I’ve been excited about us signing who turn out to be pish, there’s people I’ve had tantrums about us signing who have turned out to be great signings.

It’s normal for everyone to have opinions about potential signings but I don’t get the point in getting too worked up about it.

Hibbyradge
05-01-2024, 12:37 PM
I was absolutely delighted when we signed Efe :agree:

Yes, I was very pleased when we signed him after his loan period, but there wasn't much excitement around when he came the first time.

chippy
05-01-2024, 12:38 PM
Why not both?

Not sure Docherty had a bad attitude.... he just had better offers than Hibs in the past. Maybe that's no longer the case and he'd be happy settling somewhere on a long deal.

Too much made about the derby match. He played well in the other games and when he was 20 at Hamilton he gave McGinn one of his hardest games at ER- he bested him a few times

badabing67
05-01-2024, 12:47 PM
Why not both?

Not sure Docherty had a bad attitude.... he just had better offers than Hibs in the past. Maybe that's no longer the case and he'd be happy settling somewhere on a long deal.

CJER had a move to PSV last summer lined up and it fell through cause Burnley were late with the papers. They had been interested since last January. Not sure why he never went there then.

easty
05-01-2024, 12:49 PM
I’d like to see us move for Armstrong of Kilmarnock. There must surely be some of the Melkerson money available to spend ???

So would I but I cannae see it.

When did we last go out and buy a player who was doing well from another SPL team? Not an out of contract one.

Tyler Durden
05-01-2024, 12:53 PM
So would I but I cannae see it.

When did we last go out and buy a player who was doing well from another SPL team? Not an out of contract one.

Kyle Magennis?

I'll get my coat :rolleyes:

Unseen work
05-01-2024, 12:55 PM
He only played 6 games for us, take away the goal against Killie and nobody's talking about him. He'd improve us but we should be looking at his performances for Hull, and I wouldn't be breaking the bank for a 27yo with not much sell-on value. Joined Hull in League One so probably not on high wages, at 27 will understandably go to the club that offers the most money.

Why take away the goal against Killie? People liked him and rated him for more than that one goal.


5 starts in the league & 1 sub appearance - 1 goal and 1 assist

2 starts in the Scottish cup - 2 goals and 4 assists

He then moved to Hull and got 6 goals and 5 assists in League 1 where he was a key player and helped them get promoted. The last 2 seasons he’s played over 30 games each year in the championship.

He’d walk into our midfield and add a goal threat.

He’s out of contract in the summer.

27 is a great age for a midfielder and not every player needs to be bought with the view of selling for profit, it’s one of my frustrations with us that we seem to think every signing does

AlbertK86
05-01-2024, 01:00 PM
Why not both?

Not sure Docherty had a bad attitude.... he just had better offers than Hibs in the past. Maybe that's no longer the case and he'd be happy settling somewhere on a long deal.

Yep I’d take both but if only one it would be CJER


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Paulie Walnuts
05-01-2024, 01:05 PM
Why take away the goal against Killie? People liked him and rated him for more than that one goal.


5 starts in the league & 1 sub appearance - 1 goal and 1 assist

2 starts in the Scottish cup - 2 goals and 4 assists

He then moved to Hull and got 6 goals and 5 assists in League 1 where he was a key player and helped them get promoted. The last 2 seasons he’s played over 30 games each year in the championship.

He’d walk into our midfield and add a goal threat.

He’s out of contract in the summer.

27 is a great age for a midfielder and not every player needs to be bought with the view of selling for profit, it’s one of my frustrations with us that we seem to think every signing does

This isn’t a dig at the posters, but so far some folk have discounted his goals in the cup as they were against BSC Glasgow (I do get the logic here, but it’s still a bit unfair), we’ve seen his goal against Killie being discounted (not sure why and definitely don’t see the logic here), and people being adamant he wasn’t that good because he had one or two bad games. His stats would suggest he was very, very effective.

Some people just don’t seem to like him and I can only guess it’s cause he was at Rangers as he has had a career with absolutely 0 reasons other than that to really have any real opinion on him. He just comes across as a very good pro who never has any controversies.

Unseen work
05-01-2024, 01:08 PM
This isn’t a dig at the posters, but so far some folk have discounted his goals in the cup as they were against BSC Glasgow (I do get the logic here, but it’s still a bit unfair), we’ve seen his goal against Killie being discounted (not sure why and definitely don’t see the logic here), and people being adamant he wasn’t that good because he had one or two bad games. His stats would suggest he was very, very effective.

Some people just don’t seem to like him and I can only guess it’s cause he was at Rangers as he has had a career with absolutely 0 reasons other than that to really have any real opinion on him. He just comes across as a very good pro who never has any controversies.

Exactly, if you discount the good things he done then your opinion will be flawed.

It’s like saying just forget his poor performances as the rest of the team were poor.

He can only play what was infront of him

Gmack7
05-01-2024, 01:09 PM
Kyle Magennis?

I'll get my coat :rolleyes:

Levitt, I'll get mine aswell

Smartie
05-01-2024, 01:19 PM
Why not both?

Not sure Docherty had a bad attitude.... he just had better offers than Hibs in the past. Maybe that's no longer the case and he'd be happy settling somewhere on a long deal.

I also thought that being a Rangers player playing on loan at Hibs was a tough shift, a no win situation in many ways.

Middleton took dogs' abuse from "the people" for posting pics of himself in a Hibs kit on social media when he played for us and he had to take them down. Any time these players show any sort of appreciation, bond or solidarity with our support, they'd get it in the neck from the fans of their parent club.

They both looked suitably restrained / hesitant as a result.

We shouldn't ever be doing business like that with a club built on hatred where players are left with a foot in both camps.

Docherty still managed to be a good player for us but I sort of get why folk maybe didn't take to him so much.

I think it would be different if he were to sign for us permanently, which he'd do if we happened to be the best offer on the table for him at that time (unlike the last time).

HUTCHYHIBBY
05-01-2024, 01:32 PM
He’d cost too much, just signed an extension recently.

Is he not getting a bit old for tagging people's property? 🤔

hibsbollah
05-01-2024, 01:42 PM
I don't think I've ever been excited about us signing a centre back.

Steven Thicot was the signing for me. And look how that turned out.

EGL2000
05-01-2024, 01:54 PM
I’d like to see us move for Armstrong of Kilmarnock. There must surely be some of the Melkerson money available to spend ???

No chance, with his contract length easily be north of one mill.

HoboHarry
05-01-2024, 01:55 PM
Steven Thicot was the signing for me. And look how that turned out.
Still wisnae Klaus Dietrich :greengrin

Gmack7
05-01-2024, 01:55 PM
Steven Thicot was the signing for me. And look how that turned out.

I was delighted when we signed Boetang😫

Unseen work
05-01-2024, 02:03 PM
Steven Thicot was the signing for me. And look how that turned out.

Nothing will compare to Jonny Leith for me.

hibsbollah
05-01-2024, 02:05 PM
Nothing will compare to Jonny Leith for me.

The coolest name for a Hibs player ever.

King Cosell
05-01-2024, 02:25 PM
Why take away the goal against Killie? People liked him and rated him for more than that one goal.


5 starts in the league & 1 sub appearance - 1 goal and 1 assist

2 starts in the Scottish cup - 2 goals and 4 assists

He then moved to Hull and got 6 goals and 5 assists in League 1 where he was a key player and helped them get promoted. The last 2 seasons he’s played over 30 games each year in the championship.

He’d walk into our midfield and add a goal threat.

He’s out of contract in the summer.

27 is a great age for a midfielder and not every player needs to be bought with the view of selling for profit, it’s one of my frustrations with us that we seem to think every signing does

I don't think we're disagreeing on much here, if transfer fee and wages over 4 years amounted to around £1.5m (500k + 4x 250k) it would be an excellent deal. Not sure how much further I'd go, and I can't see the club spending big before the Foley situation is clear.

Ozyhibby
05-01-2024, 02:25 PM
Kyle Magennis?

I'll get my coat :rolleyes:

Magennis hadn’t played in about a year when we signed him.


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Ozyhibby
05-01-2024, 02:27 PM
Would the people turning their nose up at Docherty be happy to see him sign for Hearts?


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Since452
05-01-2024, 02:37 PM
Would the people turning their nose up at Docherty be happy to see him sign for Hearts?


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I thought Docherty was alright for us apart from one game against Hearts in where most of the midfield was abysmal not just him. Think he's a decent enough player. Would he improve us? Not massively I don't think.

Since90+2
05-01-2024, 02:38 PM
Magennis hadn’t played in about a year when we signed him.


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Yep not far off.

Played in January (was injured) and then we signed him in October.

Unseen work
05-01-2024, 02:47 PM
https://x.com/hibernianfc/status/1743294683684450637?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Reuben away on loan

leith lynx
05-01-2024, 02:54 PM
The coolest name for a Hibs player ever.

Don't forget Humphry Rudge!

Exuberance1875
05-01-2024, 03:20 PM
Greg Docherty would be a tremendous signing. Not 100% sure he’ll come back up to Scotland though, wasn’t that the reason he chose Hull initially?

JimBHibees
05-01-2024, 03:31 PM
https://x.com/hibernianfc/status/1743294683684450637?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Reuben away on loan

Hope he does well will be interesting to see how much game time he gets.

JimBHibees
05-01-2024, 03:31 PM
Greg Docherty would be a tremendous signing. Not 100% sure he’ll come back up to Scotland though, wasn’t that the reason he chose Hull initially?

Yes think he would be as well.

GreenNWhiteArmy
05-01-2024, 03:31 PM
Great Reuben is hopefully gonna get some game time. Him and Rudi really impressed me pre season

If Docherty is available, it's a no brainer. Exactly what we need imo

Billy Whizz
05-01-2024, 03:56 PM
Hope he does well will be interesting to see how much game time he gets.

League one has a few full time teams, so will be great experience for him playing against men

Unseen work
05-01-2024, 04:04 PM
Josh Campbell out for 12 weeks.

That’s another midfielder needed

NGoloGrantie
05-01-2024, 04:13 PM
https://x.com/olliewindsor_/status/1743298942358434197?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

Bill foley basically confirming they’ve signed that young Ecuadorean lad Oscar Zambrano and hints he could come on loan to us [emoji102]


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SHODAN
05-01-2024, 04:14 PM
Nothing will compare to Jonny Leith for me.

It was pronounced yon-eh-light!!! :grr: :grr: :grr:

greenlex
05-01-2024, 04:19 PM
https://x.com/olliewindsor_/status/1743298942358434197?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

Bill foley basically confirming they’ve signed that young Ecuadorean lad Oscar Zambrano and hints he could come on loan to us [emoji102]


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A wee spell in Auckland first.

Bridge hibs
05-01-2024, 04:21 PM
A wee spell in Auckland first.

We should fire in a bid, **** Bournemouth 🫣

NGoloGrantie
05-01-2024, 04:23 PM
A wee spell in Auckland first.

Auckland FC don’t become a team till the next A league season which starts October 2024. Could see us getting him first


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hibsbollah
05-01-2024, 04:25 PM
A wee spell in Auckland first.

Lots of ‘may’ , could’ and ‘can’. Doesnt sound like his path is totally decided. If thats right though, its going to rack up the air miles, Ecuador to New Zealand and then Bournemouth via Edinburgh and France, fit nicely with our ‘greenest club in the known solar system’ credentials.

Chorley Hibee
05-01-2024, 04:26 PM
I thought Docherty was alright for us apart from one game against Hearts in where most of the midfield was abysmal not just him. Think he's a decent enough player. Would he improve us? Not massively I don't think.

On his own, you're probably right.

As part of a collection of decent signings designed to benefit the squad as a whole, and to address our multiple deficiencies, then I think he'd be a tremendous asset.

Unfortunately, I don't have any faith that those responsible for recruitment will buy/loan the appropriate players required to address our multiple shortcomings.

bingo70
05-01-2024, 04:27 PM
Auckland FC don’t become a team till the next A league season which starts October 2024. Could see us getting him first


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Maybe more likely to be L’orient?

Billy Whizz
05-01-2024, 04:38 PM
Josh Campbell out for 12 weeks.

That’s another midfielder needed

That’s a real blow for the lad and Hibs

Bridge hibs
05-01-2024, 04:43 PM
Maybe more likely to be L’orient?

Why ?

Depends on teams needs too, they could have an abundance of midfielders, we dont ☹️

Crab apple
05-01-2024, 04:44 PM
Josh Campbell out for 12 weeks.

That’s another midfielder needed

I thought when he went down it looked much more serious than just a light sprain as originally reported. Shame for us as despite his faults he can be effective and does score goals.

Dmas
05-01-2024, 04:47 PM
https://x.com/olliewindsor_/status/1743298942358434197?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

Bill foley basically confirming they’ve signed that young Ecuadorean lad Oscar Zambrano and hints he could come on loan to us [emoji102]

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It’s good to hear the thoughts on his plans on how it will work, signing this guy for 15m or something imagine having a few of them kicking around for a season or 2, let the good times roll!

bingo70
05-01-2024, 04:54 PM
Why ?

Depends on teams needs too, they could have an abundance of midfielders, we dont ☹️

Because they play at a higher level than us so presumably the best young players (but not quite premiership ready) will go there?

In saying that, from hearing his interview, if he’s expecting him to be ready for Bournemouth for when he’s 22, he could easily have a year or so with us and then the same time with Lorient before going to Bournemouth.

Scotty Leither
05-01-2024, 04:55 PM
Does the way he’s framed the “multi-club” thing in that statement whilst explicitly referencing Hibs sounds like he thinks the buy-in is a done deal?

Or maybe I’m just desperate for some good news to emanate from the club, who knows..,

CapitalGreen
05-01-2024, 04:57 PM
Why ?

Depends on teams needs too, they could have an abundance of midfielders, we dont ☹️

He currently plays for one of the best teams in South America, the current Copa Sudamerica Champions, I imagine they’ll be keen for him to play at a higher level than the SPFL.

Dmas
05-01-2024, 04:57 PM
Why ?

Depends on teams needs too, they could have an abundance of midfielders, we dont ☹️

Chances of euro qualification will come into it as well, he’s already said it wouldn’t take too much to get us in Europe im not upto date on the French league but I’d imagine lorient have a tougher task than us,a few players at that level sets us apart

Dmas
05-01-2024, 05:00 PM
He currently plays for one of the best teams in South America, the current Copa Sudamerica Champions, I imagine they’ll be keen for him to play at a higher level than the SPFL.

If they sell him to Bournemouth what they want is irrelevant isn’t it

Gmack7
05-01-2024, 05:00 PM
Chances of euro qualification will come into it as well, he’s already said it wouldn’t take too much to get us in Europe im not upto date on the French league but I’d imagine lorient have a tougher task than us,a few players at that level sets us apart

If he's looking to get one of his teams into the champions league then we are the easiest, just sayin 😁

Bridge hibs
05-01-2024, 05:02 PM
Chances of euro qualification will come into it as well, he’s already said it wouldn’t take too much to get us in Europe im not upto date on the French league but I’d imagine lorient have a tougher task than us,a few players at that level sets us apartThey have 10 midfielders rated at approx 60m euros so I would hope they didnt require another, we on the other hand have 5 midfielders worth approx £30 (joking)

Hibbyradge
05-01-2024, 05:03 PM
If they sell him to Bournemouth what they want is irrelevant isn’t it

I assumed CG was talking about Foley and the player.

CapitalGreen
05-01-2024, 05:03 PM
If they sell him to Bournemouth what they want is irrelevant isn’t it

I was talking about Bournemouth/Foley.

HUTCHYHIBBY
05-01-2024, 05:10 PM
It was pronounced yon-eh-light!!! :grr: :grr: :grr:

I'm glad someone did that, cause I never knew what that was about.

badabing67
05-01-2024, 05:11 PM
https://x.com/olliewindsor_/status/1743298942358434197?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

Bill foley basically confirming they’ve signed that young Ecuadorean lad Oscar Zambrano and hints he could come on loan to us [emoji102]


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I like the sound of this

*The Hibs deal is due to be ratified next week (assume SFA don’t **** their pants), is it possible he’ll come to us for the rest of the season before Bournemouth in the summer?^

Unseen work
05-01-2024, 05:13 PM
He currently plays for one of the best teams in South America, the current Copa Sudamerica Champions, I imagine they’ll be keen for him to play at a higher level than the SPFL.

He’s maybe thinking SPFL will help him adjust to British style football

Bit of quality in the side for rest of the season to get us 3/4th and the potential for European football.

Wouldn’t surprise me if it was an 18 month loan with option of a recall (dependent on Europe)

Mcbizz1998
05-01-2024, 05:14 PM
https://www.67hailhail.com/transfers/oscar-zambrano-linked-with-celtic-transfer-but-bournemouth-in-advanced-talks/

Would be some laugh if we got him on loan after Celtic miss out!

Tambo
05-01-2024, 05:20 PM
https://www.67hailhail.com/transfers/oscar-zambrano-linked-with-celtic-transfer-but-bournemouth-in-advanced-talks/

Would be some laugh if we got him on loan after Celtic miss out!

It's hard to not get excited at this.

CapitalGreen
05-01-2024, 05:21 PM
He’s maybe thinking SPFL will help him adjust to British style football

Bit of quality in the side for rest of the season to get us 3/4th and the potential for European football.

Wouldn’t surprise me if it was an 18 month loan with option of a recall (dependent on Europe)

Based on his reputation I would be delighted if he did come to us.

Paul1642
05-01-2024, 05:22 PM
https://x.com/olliewindsor_/status/1743298942358434197?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

Bill foley basically confirming they’ve signed that young Ecuadorean lad Oscar Zambrano and hints he could come on loan to us [emoji102]


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For such a short interview that was very promising for a Hibs perspective. Talking as if the takeover is a done deal and also confirming that we will be getting potential Premiership players to be on loan. Love it.

04Sauzee
05-01-2024, 05:22 PM
So if Bournemouth do sign him and Foley is talking about him going to one of the clubs in his group with him having a stake in Hibs, assuming Monty doesn't want him at Hibs then he goes somewhere else?

easty
05-01-2024, 05:25 PM
So if Bournemouth do sign him and Foley is talking about him going to one of the clubs in his group with him having a stake in Hibs, assuming Monty doesn't want him at Hibs then he goes somewhere else?

Why wouldn’t Monty want him?

Gmack7
05-01-2024, 05:30 PM
So if Bournemouth do sign him and Foley is talking about him going to one of the clubs in his group with him having a stake in Hibs, assuming Monty doesn't want him at Hibs then he goes somewhere else?

If that's the scenario it'll be Monty going somewhere else

04Sauzee
05-01-2024, 05:30 PM
Why wouldn’t Monty want him?

I'm not saying he wouldn't, my point is that Foley is saying he'd likely go to one of the clubs he has a share in. From what I have read previously recruitment would still be Hibs domain, assuming the deal with Foley is just about complete I'm guessing talks with Hibs have taken place about this guy if indeed he is going to rock up at Easter Road?

blackpoolhibs
05-01-2024, 05:33 PM
Surely there is nothing stopping Bournmouth loaning us players now, even if the deal has not been given the green light yet?

Bridge hibs
05-01-2024, 05:35 PM
I'm not saying he wouldn't, my point is that Foley is saying he'd likely go to one of the clubs he has a share in. From what I have read previously recruitment would still be Hibs domain, assuming the deal with Foley is just about complete I'm guessing talks with Hibs have taken place about this guy if indeed he is going to rock up at Easter Road?

We wont have footballers randomly turning up at EM with their suitcases, Im sure signing and player needs/requirements will be discussed with hibs football department first

04Sauzee
05-01-2024, 05:38 PM
We wont have footballers randomly turning up at EM with their suitcases, Im sure signing and player needs/requirements will be discussed with hibs football department first

I didn't think for a minute we would have random players turning up at Easter Road with their suitcases.

I didn't think that was the point I was making.

I think it's great that we are potentially getting players that have been scouted by the likes of Man Utd, Bournemouth and Luton who are all premiership clubs.

greenlex
05-01-2024, 05:47 PM
Surely there is nothing stopping Bournmouth loaning us players now, even if the deal has not been given the green light yet?
There’s players already going out on loan. It would be madness to do this without some coming the other way. NM has already said this would be the case. It’s just a question of who. A betting man would weigh up probabilities and given what we know I’ll be really surprised if there no players from other “sister” clubs involved. Hopefully coming down the way and not up.

Alex Trager
05-01-2024, 05:47 PM
Surely there is nothing stopping Bournmouth loaning us players now, even if the deal has not been given the green light yet?

I was thinking this as well earlier.

I dono what would change, but I can’t imagine much if we were their sister club.

MKHIBEE
05-01-2024, 05:48 PM
Josh Doig to the Hunnes?

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers-serie-a-swap-deal-celtic-linked-defender-available-gary-hooper-rejects-spfl-return-scottish-transfers-4464613

Hibs4185
05-01-2024, 06:00 PM
Josh Doig to the Hunnes?

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers-serie-a-swap-deal-celtic-linked-defender-available-gary-hooper-rejects-spfl-return-scottish-transfers-4464613

My atilla supporting joiner reckoned it was a done deal this morning.

Absolutely gutted

King Cosell
05-01-2024, 06:00 PM
Josh Doig to the Hunnes?

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers-serie-a-swap-deal-celtic-linked-defender-available-gary-hooper-rejects-spfl-return-scottish-transfers-4464613

Does a swap deal affect our sell-on fee?

Bridge hibs
05-01-2024, 06:02 PM
I didn't think for a minute we would have random players turning up at Easter Road with their suitcases.

I didn't think that was the point I was making.

I think it's great that we are potentially getting players that have been scouted by the likes of Man Utd, Bournemouth and Luton who are all premiership clubs.First part was tongue and cheek mate, will be interesting to see the plans when its all signed sealed and delivered 👍

Since90+2
05-01-2024, 06:05 PM
I'm not saying he wouldn't, my point is that Foley is saying he'd likely go to one of the clubs he has a share in. From what I have read previously recruitment would still be Hibs domain, assuming the deal with Foley is just about complete I'm guessing talks with Hibs have taken place about this guy if indeed he is going to rock up at Easter Road?

If he's hinting he's coming to Hibs, then the likelihood is Hibs/Montgomery have been sounded out and given the go ahead

We'd be mad to say otherwise looking at his pedigree.

CropleyWasGod
05-01-2024, 06:07 PM
Does a swap deal affect our sell-on fee?

It shouldn't.

The deal between Verona and Rangers will have a value for each player.

Up-the-slope
05-01-2024, 06:18 PM
We wont have footballers randomly turning up at EM with their suitcases, Im sure signing and player needs/requirements will be discussed with hibs football department first

:greengrin i must admit that made me laugh out loud - quite a picture and would be hilarious... EH Bill said 'just turn up and say he sent you'

Bridge hibs
05-01-2024, 06:24 PM
:greengrin i must admit that made me laugh out loud - quite a picture and would be hilarious... EH Bill said 'just turn up and say he sent you'🤣 you know the first thing that came to my mind was when Vlad sent over plane loads of Lithuanian trialists to hearts, a queue stretching down Russell Road with them holding their Aldi bags, trowels, screwdrivers, hods and tins of Charger lager

Lago
05-01-2024, 06:26 PM
That’s a real blow for the lad and Hibs
His season is finished realistically.

Unseen work
05-01-2024, 06:33 PM
I wonder if Bournemouth are open with us about other players they find

So this young lad in that league seems an absolute standout.

But there might be a player not as good as him that Bournemouth think, no from us but Hibs should get in there as he has a lot of quality

King Cosell
05-01-2024, 06:34 PM
🤣 you know the first thing that came to my mind was when Vlad sent over plane loads of Lithuanian trialists to hearts, a queue stretching down Russell Road with them holding their Aldi bags, trowels, screwdrivers, hods and tins of Charger lager

My 3rd favourite lager, behind Hampden and Scottish Pride.

Eyrie
05-01-2024, 07:13 PM
I wonder if Bournemouth are open with us about other players they find

So this young lad in that league seems an absolute standout.

But there might be a player not as good as him that Bournemouth think, no from us but Hibs should get in there as he has a lot of quality

I'd expect sharing information to be one of the benefits of being in a group.

04Sauzee
05-01-2024, 07:21 PM
Seems to be talk about Yan Dhanda going to Hearts.

HoboHarry
05-01-2024, 07:22 PM
Seems to be talk about Yan Dhanda going to Hearts.
On the other hand our signings might come from Dan Yhanda...

Torto7
05-01-2024, 07:22 PM
It shouldn't.

The deal between Verona and Rangers will have a value for each player.

Who sets the value? I don't trust Italian clubs and we know Sevco's methods.

Torto7
05-01-2024, 07:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtD1iM-A1HQ Oscar Zambrano.

Tbf watching this he looks very physically ready for UK football. He's a DM as well.

WeeRussell
05-01-2024, 07:26 PM
https://x.com/olliewindsor_/status/1743298942358434197?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

Bill foley basically confirming they’ve signed that young Ecuadorean lad Oscar Zambrano and hints he could come on loan to us [emoji102]


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I know nothing about him but he sounds ****ing class. Rolls off the tongue like a champ man good thing.

Already dreading what **** song the ultras come out with for him though 😁

cabbageandribs1875
05-01-2024, 07:47 PM
apols if elsewhere, i see Rueben McAllister has joined Kelty on loan Loan Move For Reuben McAllister - Hibernian FC (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/loan-move-for-reuben-mcallister?fbclid=IwAR3kbtRacsXYEyPDfVZgx27LmEepOp Cs-GADtVxUWj1z5UiIbnXPar3h7Mw)

rileygrieve1
05-01-2024, 07:48 PM
I like the sound of this

*The Hibs deal is due to be ratified next week (assume SFA don’t **** their pants), is it possible he’ll come to us for the rest of the season before Bournemouth in the summer?^

Where did you hear this? I was under the impression we wouldn’t know til after the window?


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King Cosell
05-01-2024, 07:55 PM
Where did you hear this? I was under the impression we wouldn’t know til after the window?


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Bill Foley wouldn't be calling us one of Bournemouth's "sister clubs" if it was in any doubt.

CropleyWasGod
05-01-2024, 07:56 PM
Who sets the value? I don't trust Italian clubs and we know Sevco's methods.

It's in the clubs' interests to set a high value, not least for insurance purposes.

But, if Hibs and Yilmaz's previous club aren't happy, UEFA will have a mechanism to deal with such disputes. It wouldn't be the first time it's happened.

JohnM1875
05-01-2024, 08:01 PM
Who sets the value? I don't trust Italian clubs and we know Sevco's methods.

Hmm if the deal we agreed was a percentage of the profit (not saying it definitely is that) then I think we could end up getting sweet fa from the Doig deal if he goes to Sevco.

Torto7
05-01-2024, 08:06 PM
It's in the clubs' interests to set a high value, not least for insurance purposes.

But, if Hibs and Yilmaz's previous club aren't happy, UEFA will have a mechanism to deal with such disputes. It wouldn't be the first time it's happened.

Sounds like you know your stuff. :aok:

Torto7
05-01-2024, 08:07 PM
Hmm if the deal we agreed was a percentage of the profit (not saying it definitely is that) then I think we could end up getting sweet fa from the Doig deal if he goes to Sevco.


This was my worry. You can bet the **** are trying their best.

King Cosell
05-01-2024, 08:12 PM
Burnley have made a lot of changes tonight and there's still no sign of Egan-Riley. Must be a strong chance of us bringing him in this window. Hasn't played for 8 months, which will put a lot of clubs off, but if he's fit he'll slot right in at ER.

truehibernian
05-01-2024, 08:21 PM
Burnley have made a lot of changes tonight and there's still no sign of Egan-Riley. Must be a strong chance of us bringing him in this window. Hasn't played for 8 months, which will put a lot of clubs off, but if he's fit he'll slot right in at ER.

I was told Hibs do want him back but only on a permanent deal. Also told we are close to getting the left winger NM wants. Centre half deal is done. Trying to get the Aussie from Celtic too.

neil7908
05-01-2024, 08:22 PM
Burnley have made a lot of changes tonight and there's still no sign of Egan-Riley. Must be a strong chance of us bringing him in this window. Hasn't played for 8 months, which will put a lot of clubs off, but if he's fit he'll slot right in at ER.

Yes please.

An absolute no brainer of a signing.

neil7908
05-01-2024, 08:24 PM
I was told Hibs do want him back but only on a permanent deal. Also told we are close to getting the left winger NM wants. Centre half deal is done. Trying to get the Aussie from Celtic too.

I really don't get the left winger when we have Tavares and Youan that can both play their, yet we're absolutely desperate imo for a proper partner for Vente. Boyle, Doidge, ALF are not going to cut it this season.

JohnM1875
05-01-2024, 08:25 PM
I was told Hibs do want him back but only on a permanent deal. Also told we are close to getting the left winger NM wants. Centre half deal is done. Trying to get the Aussie from Celtic too.

This is the kinda stuff I’ve been waiting for! Cheers for sharing.

Alex Trager
05-01-2024, 08:32 PM
I was told Hibs do want him back but only on a permanent deal. Also told we are close to getting the left winger NM wants. Centre half deal is done. Trying to get the Aussie from Celtic too.

Would CJ be for CM because that is an area we absolutely need to strengthen and have done for many windows and need to even more so that JC is out.

badabing67
05-01-2024, 08:35 PM
Where did you hear this? I was under the impression we wouldn’t know til after the window?


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https://x.com/olliewindsor_/status/1...60lbBmqMtdAt4g (https://x.com/olliewindsor_/status/1743298942358434197?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g)

CapitalGreen
05-01-2024, 08:37 PM
I really don't get the left winger when we have Tavares and Youan that can both play their, yet we're absolutely desperate imo for a proper partner for Vente. Boyle, Doidge, ALF are not going to cut it this season.

Tavares is playing 90 mins every week, he’s absolutely knackered in the closing stages of games making him less impactful but we have nobody to replace him with.

04Sauzee
05-01-2024, 08:42 PM
I was told Hibs do want him back but only on a permanent deal. Also told we are close to getting the left winger NM wants. Centre half deal is done. Trying to get the Aussie from Celtic too.

Is the CB the young Leeds boy or is he a RB?
Any names for the LW
Tilio from Celtic? On loan?

Greencore
05-01-2024, 08:43 PM
Would love it if bournmouth hijacked the doig deal 😂

greenlex
05-01-2024, 08:47 PM
I only get the announcement about a player, nothing about the proposal with Hibs.

Play it again and listen to every word.

Hibbyradge
05-01-2024, 08:54 PM
This was my worry. You can bet the **** are trying their best.

Why?

They won't be paying us.

Jones28
05-01-2024, 08:55 PM
Would love it if bournmouth hijacked the doig deal 😂

And then a wee half season loan deal for the lad to re-adjust to football in the UK?

Hibstrooper
05-01-2024, 08:58 PM
Trying to get the Aussie from Celtic too.

Marco Tilio? A winger going by online info, maybe the left winger in question?

badabing67
05-01-2024, 09:14 PM
I only get the announcement about a player, nothing about the proposal with Hibs.

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The Hibs deal is due to be ratified next week (assume SFA don’t **** their pants), is it possible he’ll come to us for the rest of the season before Bournemouth in the summer?

Unseen work
05-01-2024, 09:19 PM
On the other hand our signings might come from Dan Yhanda...

Really disappointed this hasn’t got the credit it deserves, absolutely fantastic 🤣

Unseen work
05-01-2024, 09:22 PM
I really don't get the left winger when we have Tavares and Youan that can both play their, yet we're absolutely desperate imo for a proper partner for Vente. Boyle, Doidge, ALF are not going to cut it this season.

I’m the same as you.

Youan’s best position imo is off the left, same as Tavares. Or move Youan up too with Vente and put Boyle on the right.

If we needed a winger it should be a right winger, unless Tilio will play there as he cuts in?

Greenio
05-01-2024, 09:38 PM
I know we're all happy with his progression, but Tavares isn't it for what we need. His touch is awful and for every 1 move he pulls of, there's 5 where he just runs into players and loses the ball. I don't make a habit of being overly critical of players but there's not enough I'm seeing in him to say otherwise.

brydekirk
05-01-2024, 09:44 PM
I know we're all happy with his progression, but Tavares isn't it for what we need. His touch is awful and for every 1 move he pulls of, there's 5 where he just runs into players and loses the ball. I don't make a habit of being overly critical of players but there's not enough I'm seeing in him to say otherwise.

This

rileygrieve1
05-01-2024, 09:45 PM
I know we're all happy with his progression, but Tavares isn't it for what we need. His touch is awful and for every 1 move he pulls of, there's 5 where he just runs into players and loses the ball. I don't make a habit of being overly critical of players but there's not enough I'm seeing in him to say otherwise.

He was our best player for the first half on Saturday until Motherwell put 2-3 men on him and close him out of the game on Saturday. He put in 3-4 good balls that the attackers never got on the end of. He also beat his man 5/7 times

B.H.F.C
05-01-2024, 09:49 PM
I know we're all happy with his progression, but Tavares isn't it for what we need. His touch is awful and for every 1 move he pulls of, there's 5 where he just runs into players and loses the ball. I don't make a habit of being overly critical of players but there's not enough I'm seeing in him to say otherwise.

I think you’re possibly being slightly harsh but we do need more end product from him for the amount of the ball he has. Hearts game was the prime example in the second half.

JohnM1875
05-01-2024, 09:50 PM
He was our best player for the first half on Saturday until Motherwell put 2-3 men on him and close him out of the game on Saturday. He put in 3-4 good balls that the attackers never got on the end of. He also beat his man 5/7 times

Definitely, he was excellent first half against Motherwell. He was ripping the pish out of them time and time again.

Just think some folk will never take to him. I couldn’t see a way how he’d remotely be good enough for us, but he’s shut me right up. First name on the team sheet these days.

Greencore
05-01-2024, 10:13 PM
And then a wee half season loan deal for the lad to re-adjust to football in the UK?

😉

Unseen work
05-01-2024, 10:16 PM
I know we're all happy with his progression, but Tavares isn't it for what we need. His touch is awful and for every 1 move he pulls of, there's 5 where he just runs into players and loses the ball. I don't make a habit of being overly critical of players but there's not enough I'm seeing in him to say otherwise.

Agree and disagree. There’s times I think we need a better player but Tuesday for example he was brilliant first half, I actually think he’s got a good touch and rarely gives the ball away and if he does it’s by being positive.

He keeps it far better than Youan however also gets praised for things Youan probably wouldn’t as it’s expected.

Youan is genuinely shocking sometimes, but then has that moment where you go wow or he scored/creates out of nothing.

I’d always feel confident Youan will score/create every game but don’t quite have that yet with Tavares and I think every player/manager would rather play against Tavares.

Tavares is showing he’s decent, alot better than we ever expected, but still had a bit more to do. The strikers getting on the end of some of his fantastic crosses would be a good start however

JammyDoidger
05-01-2024, 10:34 PM
Agree and disagree. There’s times I think we need a better player but Tuesday for example he was brilliant first half, I actually think he’s got a good touch and rarely gives the ball away and if he does it’s by being positive.

He keeps it far better than Youan however also gets praised for things Youan probably wouldn’t as it’s expected.

Youan is genuinely shocking sometimes, but then has that moment where you go wow or he scored/creates out of nothing.

I’d always feel confident Youan will score/create every game but don’t quite have that yet with Tavares and I think every player/manager would rather play against Tavares.

Tavares is showing he’s decent, alot better than we ever expected, but still had a bit more to do. The strikers getting on the end of some of his fantastic crosses would be a good start however

Agree with you, Tavares is more of a team player, better on the ball for me, safer option if you like, defensively better too imo..Youan is unpredictable, sometimes I don't think even he knows what he's doing, he's more selfish hence why his numbers are higher, he hits shots and gets in the box more. His goals at the weekend are typical Youan, just lashes at the ball after bouncing through folk and he's got 2 goals, Two different players. Youan's numbers are great but most of the time he has me wondering how he's at this level as his footbal IQ as our previous manager would put it is very low imo.

jacomo
05-01-2024, 10:55 PM
Could this finally be the window where we sign James McCarthy?

:hyper

BILLYHIBS
05-01-2024, 11:06 PM
Agree with you, Tavares is more of a team player, better on the ball for me, safer option if you like, defensively better too imo..Youan is unpredictable, sometimes I don't think even he knows what he's doing, he's more selfish hence why his numbers are higher, he hits shots and gets in the box more. His goals at the weekend are typical Youan, just lashes at the ball after bouncing through folk and he's got 2 goals, Two different players. Youan's numbers are great but most of the time he has me wondering how he's at this level as his footbal IQ as our previous manager would put it is very low imo.

Tavares sees a lot of the ball without any discernible end product

Motherwell doubled up on him and he did well to track back to look for the ball

I get it he is a work in progress and still needs a lot of coaching

Youan on the other hand doesn’t know what he is going to do next but knows the way to goal scoring a brace despite picking up a sore one

The guy is an enigma never kicked a ba first half at Tiny and scored a brace second half

Enjoy him while he is here

Forza Fred
05-01-2024, 11:21 PM
Agree and disagree. There’s times I think we need a better player but Tuesday for example he was brilliant first half, I actually think he’s got a good touch and rarely gives the ball away and if he does it’s by being positive.

He keeps it far better than Youan however also gets praised for things Youan probably wouldn’t as it’s expected.

Youan is genuinely shocking sometimes, but then has that moment where you go wow or he scored/creates out of nothing.

I’d always feel confident Youan will score/create every game but don’t quite have that yet with Tavares and I think every player/manager would rather play against Tavares.

Tavares is showing he’s decent, alot better than we ever expected, but still had a bit more to do. The strikers getting on the end of some of his fantastic crosses would be a good start however

Youan has that X factor.

Sadly, Tavares does not.

NAE NOOKIE
06-01-2024, 12:44 AM
Youan has that X factor.

Sadly, Tavares does not.

Youan has played over 50 games for Hibs. Tavares has played around 20 and about a third of those were 10 minutes at the end of a game. Considering where he was at barely 4 months ago, who can say what he will be like by the end of this season if he progresses,

He certainly had an X factor for half an hour on Tuesday.

Forza Fred
06-01-2024, 01:17 AM
Youan has played over 50 games for Hibs. Tavares has played around 20 and about a third of those were 10 minutes at the end of a game. Considering where he was at barely 4 months ago, who can say what he will be like by the end of this season if he progresses,

He certainly had an X factor for half an hour on Tuesday.

Guess it depends on our individual definitions of X factor.

MrRobot
06-01-2024, 01:21 AM
Youan has played over 50 games for Hibs. Tavares has played around 20 and about a third of those were 10 minutes at the end of a game. Considering where he was at barely 4 months ago, who can say what he will be like by the end of this season if he progresses,

He certainly had an X factor for half an hour on Tuesday.

He also had his confidence shot to pieces by a manager who brought him over, made out he was the next best thing then tried to bin him.

The guys had a rough year and has done well to bounce back. Sure there is a lot more to come from him.

cubehindthegoal
06-01-2024, 01:42 AM
I'm not saying he wouldn't, my point is that Foley is saying he'd likely go to one of the clubs he has a share in. From what I have read previously recruitment would still be Hibs domain, assuming the deal with Foley is just about complete I'm guessing talks with Hibs have taken place about this guy if indeed he is going to rock up at Easter Road?

I think when it comes to the potential standard of player we are taking about here, the recruitment discussion becomes little more than a rubber stamp. Why would we do anything to prevent a superior level of player joining us?

cubehindthegoal
06-01-2024, 01:48 AM
I like the sound of this

*The Hibs deal is due to be ratified next week (assume SFA don’t **** their pants), is it possible he’ll come to us for the rest of the season before Bournemouth in the summer?^

I don’t think Foley said it would be Hibs for this player, he mentions all the clubs involved to support the players they find that they hope will show they are good enough for the English top league. It might be … but he didn’t rule any club out from the portfolio of clubs.

cubehindthegoal
06-01-2024, 02:01 AM
Surely there is nothing stopping Bournmouth loaning us players now, even if the deal has not been given the green light yet?

That’s a good point.

Also, it highlights a strength of this set up for Hibs … presumably Bournemouth will pay such players wages, which would be substantial for a signing like this, and not something Hibs could manage.

Also makes me think it won’t be long before others follow this model, if it shows success …

PHeffernan
06-01-2024, 02:11 AM
Youan has played over 50 games for Hibs. Tavares has played around 20 and about a third of those were 10 minutes at the end of a game. Considering where he was at barely 4 months ago, who can say what he will be like by the end of this season if he progresses,

He certainly had an X factor for half an hour on Tuesday.

Youan has played 126 senior games and this is his 4th season as a senior starter

Tavares has only played 20 senior games and in reality this is his 1st season as a senior starter.
He has played almost every minute of the last 11 games and is noticably improving a little with every game.
He has good game intelligence including being defensively aware.
Needs to continue to improve the offensive side of his game and at times needs less panic in his passing when he receives the ball with his back to goal.
I think he will move forward another chunk in the last 20 games if he avoids injury and keeps being selected.

Torto7
06-01-2024, 02:55 AM
Why?

They won't be paying us.

My concern was they could facilitate a transfer at a lower value whilst giving us a boot in the balls out of spite. Thankfully the chap who answered several posts ago ruled it out.

Torto7
06-01-2024, 02:57 AM
I don’t think Foley said it would be Hibs for this player, he mentions all the clubs involved to support the players they find that they hope will show they are good enough for the English top league. It might be … but he didn’t rule any club out from the portfolio of clubs.

He won't be going to Auckland. He's too good for that. Lorient have a lot of talent in their midfield already, that leaves us.

Bridge hibs
06-01-2024, 05:26 AM
Could this finally be the window where we sign James McCarthy?

:hyperMore chance of us signing Melissa McCarthy

Big90inOz
06-01-2024, 06:05 AM
He won't be going to Auckland. He's too good for that. Lorient have a lot of talent in their midfield already, that leaves us.

Auckland are only a team in concept, they don't join the league until 2025

Forza Fred
06-01-2024, 06:34 AM
He won't be going to Auckland. He's too good for that. Lorient have a lot of talent in their midfield already, that leaves us.

Erm……nobody will be going to Auckland until next season…..

Cocaine&Caviar
06-01-2024, 06:35 AM
I know we're all happy with his progression, but Tavares isn't it for what we need. His touch is awful and for every 1 move he pulls of, there's 5 where he just runs into players and loses the ball. I don't make a habit of being overly critical of players but there's not enough I'm seeing in him to say otherwise.

Hes only 22 still. Agree shouldnt be considered a starter, but certainly shown under the new manager he has some potential.

jacomo
06-01-2024, 06:58 AM
That’s a good point.

Also, it highlights a strength of this set up for Hibs … presumably Bournemouth will pay such players wages, which would be substantial for a signing like this, and not something Hibs could manage.

Also makes me think it won’t be long before others follow this model, if it shows success …


If Foley is serious and wants Hibs to prosper then surely we would see a beneficial loan for us this window.

Victor
06-01-2024, 07:14 AM
Guess it depends on our individual definitions of X factor.

Hopefully better than Simon Cowell’s. He has signed some real turkeys!


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greenlex
06-01-2024, 07:25 AM
Erm……nobody will be going to Auckland until next season…..

Only caught the last half hour of WSW and CCM this morning which is my first look at A League.
Couple of points. The left back Farrell certainly from what I and seeing is having a stinker. Continuously trying to dribble the ball out from the back and been caught nearly every time. Is that a hallmark of his game or just an off day? I know he’s out in a few MOTM performances of late.
Secondly that big Egyptian lump Machar Reec up front with a bit of good coaching could be something. Reads the game well but maybe technically lacking. He certainly has something about him.
Nisbet, another name brought up here, seemed pretty anonymous l.
All of that in the basis of the last half hour. CCM very organised defensively.

Bridge hibs
06-01-2024, 07:52 AM
Only caught the last half hour of WSW and CCM this morning which is my first look at A League.
Couple of points. The left back Farrell certainly from what I and seeing is having a stinker. Continuously trying to dribble the ball out from the back and been caught nearly every time. Is that a hallmark of his game or just an off day? I know he’s out in a few MOTM performances of late.
Secondly that big Egyptian lump Machar Reec up front with a bit of good coaching could be something. Reads the game well but maybe technically lacking. He certainly has something about him.
Nisbet, another name brought up here, seemed pretty anonymous l.
All of that in the basis of the last half hour. CCM very organised defensively.Funny I watched most of the game and thought Farrell didnt do too badly, I think he can be a bit erratic at times but he is young and I think he could be coached well. I actually think Farrell is better on the front foot when interlinking as he did very effectively last week

Nisbet is like one of those flies you just cant seem to swat away, constantly busy and always buzzing around getting a foot in here and there either breaking up play or trying to set up an attack

Nisbet I think when playing more advanced today, like he did last week linked up well when playing behind the forwards and was unlucky when a few through balls in and around the box were intercepted

CCM made changes around the last 15/20 and Nisbet appeared to drop back a good bit and that was more notable when attacks became fewer and he was less involved

I wasnt too impressed with Reec though but will keep an eye out for him

greenlex
06-01-2024, 07:55 AM
Funny I watched most of the game and thought Farrell didnt do too badly, I think he can be a bit erratic at times but he is young and I think he could be coached well. I actually think Farrell is better on the front foot when interlinking as he did very effectively last week

Nisbet is like one of those flies you just cant seem to swat away, constantly busy and always buzzing around getting a foot in here and there either breaking up play or trying to set up an attack

Nisbet I think when playing more advanced today, like he did last week linked up well when playing behind the forwards and was unlucky when a few through balls in and around the box were intercepted

CCM made changes around the last 15/20 and Nisbet appeared to drop back a good bit and that was more notable when attacks became fewer and he was less involved

I wasnt too impressed with Reec though but will keep an eye out for him:aok:

FitbaFolkKen
06-01-2024, 07:57 AM
Being reported that Yilmaz is on his way from Rangers to Verona which hopefully means movement for Doig. Would be good for some more cash for Monty.


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oneone73
06-01-2024, 08:07 AM
Being reported that Yilmaz is on his way from Rangers to Verona which hopefully means movement for Doig. Would be good for some more cash for Monty.


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Hope it's not a swap

Greenbeard
06-01-2024, 08:13 AM
Hope it's not a swap
Is it not the case that it is the player's value still, ignoring the swap and what dosh actually changes hands, that determines the % share for the sell-on?
Even so, you can bet your bottom euro there would be some sort of fiddle to reduce and/or delay what we get.

FitbaFolkKen
06-01-2024, 08:22 AM
Is it not the case that it is the player's value still, ignoring the swap and what dosh actually changes hands, that determines the % share for the sell-on?
Even so, you can bet your bottom euro there would be some sort of fiddle to reduce and/or delay what we get.

I think you are right, I saw Torino were mentioned again so here is hoping we won’t see Doig in blue.


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bingo70
06-01-2024, 08:23 AM
Ilkay Durmuz is in Edinburgh just now I see. Real fan favourite at St Mirren a few years back, wonder if he’s just holidaying here just now or moving clubs?!

Bridge hibs
06-01-2024, 08:29 AM
Ilkay Durmuz is in Edinburgh just now I see. Real fan favourite at St Mirren a few years back, wonder if he’s just holidaying here just now or moving clubs?!

Noticed he had signed a 2 year deal with St Mirren, wonder why he left

Not In The Know
06-01-2024, 08:34 AM
He’s maybe thinking SPFL will help him adjust to British style football

Bit of quality in the side for rest of the season to get us 3/4th and the potential for European football.

Wouldn’t surprise me if it was an 18 month loan with option of a recall (dependent on Europe)

so all things going well. He signs for Bournemouth then comes straight here. What’s not to love! https://www.attackingfootball.com/player-profile-oscar-zambrano-the-ecuadorian-wonderkid/

exactly what we need

https://youtu.be/1ACQ_PJXoC4?feature=shared

Not In The Know
06-01-2024, 08:37 AM
I was thinking this as well earlier.

I dono what would change, but I can’t imagine much if we were their sister club.

I reckon they don’t want to tempt fate or give the SFA any ammo to refuse the deal. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a few deals/ loans ready to go

cubehindthegoal
06-01-2024, 08:48 AM
He won't be going to Auckland. He's too good for that. Lorient have a lot of talent in their midfield already, that leaves us.

Hope you are right, and that does make sense. It’ll all come out in the wash … he looks like a player who could compliment the team in an area we need a quality player who isn’t scared of the ball.

neil7908
06-01-2024, 08:52 AM
Is it not the case that it is the player's value still, ignoring the swap and what dosh actually changes hands, that determines the % share for the sell-on?
Even so, you can bet your bottom euro there would be some sort of fiddle to reduce and/or delay what we get.

This is my worry. If it's a player swap, what's to stop Sevco and Verona valuing each player at say £500k?

JimBHibees
06-01-2024, 08:53 AM
Would CJ be for CM because that is an area we absolutely need to strengthen and have done for many windows and need to even more so that JC is out.

Genuinely think he would struggle athletically in a two man midfield.

Alex Trager
06-01-2024, 09:04 AM
I reckon they don’t want to tempt fate or give the SFA any ammo to refuse the deal. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a few deals/ loans ready to go

Well hopefully it gets ratified next week anyway and we can avoid all this.

Brightside
06-01-2024, 09:31 AM
Genuinely think he would struggle athletically in a two man midfield.

100% agree.

NC1875
06-01-2024, 09:50 AM
This is my worry. If it's a player swap, what's to stop Sevco and Verona valuing each player at say £500k?

Sevco paid 5 million for Yilmaz I’m sure so no chance of that

Bridge hibs
06-01-2024, 10:40 AM
Doig playing for Verona, live on tv now v Inter

Forza Fred
06-01-2024, 10:45 AM
If Foley is serious and wants Hibs to prosper then surely we would see a beneficial loan for us this window.

I would imagine until everything is approved and shareholders have agreed with it he’ll do nowt.

Forza Fred
06-01-2024, 11:05 AM
Only caught the last half hour of WSW and CCM this morning which is my first look at A League.
Couple of points. The left back Farrell certainly from what I and seeing is having a stinker. Continuously trying to dribble the ball out from the back and been caught nearly every time. Is that a hallmark of his game or just an off day? I know he’s out in a few MOTM performances of late.
Secondly that big Egyptian lump Machar Reec up front with a bit of good coaching could be something. Reads the game well but maybe technically lacking. He certainly has something about him.
Nisbet, another name brought up here, seemed pretty anonymous l.
All of that in the basis of the last half hour. CCM very organised defensively.

Reec imho is pretty raw/crap……maybe we’re talking about different people..wouldn’t describe Reec as a lump..he’s pretty skinny.

Thought Farrell did ok…he was very quiet though, but did put in a crunching tackle and at the same time diverted the ball to Nisbet, who in turn passed to Tulio.. Who then shot from the edge of the box and scored the only goal of the game.

Was not a game that really showed anybody in a great light…..as others have said, the new (former MK Dons) manager has taken to playing Nisbet up front, rather than in midfield, and given the Mariners rear guard action in the second half, not surprising he wasn’t hugely involved or noticed…but I do remember a couple of timely interceptions.

I’d watch a few more games involving them……I’ve formed my personal opinion from watching them every week for a couple of seasons at least…..but obviously opinions can differ…and are just that, personal opinions.

Funnily enough, a fellow Oz Hibee disagreed with my opinion on Farrell after having only seeing him fleetingly……but having watched him a bit more is now a convert and agrees with my opinion.

Pretty sure Farrell will be off overseas at the end of the season.

cabbageandribs1875
06-01-2024, 11:26 AM
Doig playing for Verona, live on tv now v Inter


his positioning wasn't great at their goal


HT 1-0

Winston Ingram
06-01-2024, 11:27 AM
This is my worry. If it's a player swap, what's to stop Sevco and Verona valuing each player at say £500k?

Nothing

Bridge hibs
06-01-2024, 11:28 AM
his positioning wasn't great at their goal


HT 1-0Yeah ball watching and let the Inter player just stroke it in, Verona are painful to watch too and folk think hibs are boring 🫣

HUTCHYHIBBY
06-01-2024, 11:28 AM
We wont have footballers randomly turning up at EM with their suitcases

Unless it's Chris Porter, although he's getting on a bit. 🤭

CropleyWasGod
06-01-2024, 12:55 PM
This is my worry. If it's a player swap, what's to stop Sevco and Verona valuing each player at say £500k?

UEFA.

If any club, such as ourselves and Yilmaz's previous club(s), loses out as the result of such an agreement, UEFA will have their own mechanism to deal with it. It wouldn't be the first time this has happened.

The VAT authorities in both countries may also have an interest.

And then there's the insurance aspect.

GreenPJ
06-01-2024, 12:59 PM
This is my worry. If it's a player swap, what's to stop Sevco and Verona valuing each player at say £500k?

Verona have already stated they value JD at 5M. If they/Sevco determine the value of the Sevco player at 500k they (Sevco} would need to pay more cash. It seems cash is what Verona need.

aberhibsfc
06-01-2024, 01:15 PM
Leeds looking at Doig https://onefootball.com/en/news/leeds-united-transfer-latest-josh-doig-contact-junior-firpo-growing-hope-liam-cooper-link-38813654

GloryGlory
06-01-2024, 01:18 PM
Verona have already stated they value JD at 5M. If they/Sevco determine the value of the Sevco player at 500k they (Sevco} would need to pay more cash. It seems cash is what Verona need.

Yes - it seems they've installed a revolving door in the dressing room because it looks like they want to move on and cash in on any assets they have - they've already sold another defender, and others as well as Doig are expected to leave this window.

Paul1642
06-01-2024, 01:22 PM
Leeds looking at Doig https://onefootball.com/en/news/leeds-united-transfer-latest-josh-doig-contact-junior-firpo-growing-hope-liam-cooper-link-38813654

This please. Would hate to see him at the ****. He would be daft to chose rangers over promotion candidates into the English prem. Let John McGinn serve as an example to all.

Also gives us more chance in a future sell on if that would be part of our deal.

Dashing Bob S
06-01-2024, 02:42 PM
I’d relax. Not only can they not afford the asking price, if doubt they have any serious intentions of signing Doig. After a bad reverse the press always link them to new players to keep the idiots that follow them onside. If it talks up his price then it’s good news for us.

JimBHibees
06-01-2024, 03:52 PM
UEFA.

If any club, such as ourselves and Yilmaz's previous club(s), loses out as the result of such an agreement, UEFA will have their own mechanism to deal with it. It wouldn't be the first time this has happened.

The VAT authorities in both countries may also have an interest.

And then there's the insurance aspect.

Yeah but apart from that. :greengrin