Tories are still lying *******s

[grunt]

Liz Truss looking for ways to save on Government spending ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GV_VLrCX0AA_WDM?format=jpg&name=medium

[Jones28]

Liz Truss looking for ways to save on Government spending ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GV_VLrCX0AA_WDM?format=jpg&name=medium

This woman is being paid to go and speak to people. People are paying her money. To speak. To them.

What has she got to say? Genuinely, who is looking for her "expertise" to be imparted on them?

If I caught wind that any organisation I was involved with professionally or personally was paying to get her to go and talk to them I would boycott them.

[Kato]

This woman is being paid to go and speak to people. People are paying her money. To speak. To them.

What has she got to say? Genuinely, who is looking for her "expertise" to be imparted on them?

If I caught wind that any organisation I was involved with professionally or personally was paying to get her to go and talk to them I would boycott them.Plenty ex-ToryMPs tipping up as taking heads on the "we've got space to fill" news channels. Old pals act, being asked serious questions about Labour and being treated seriously - when each and every one of them lied daily when in power.

It's almost as though the political media in London live in a tiny rhetorical bubble, in which they are never effected by anything and all the ills and woes of the country are just on paper chattering points to be scored.

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[grunt]

It's almost as though the political media in London live in a tiny rhetorical bubble, in which they are never effected by anything and all the ills and woes of the country are just on paper chattering points to be scored.
Someone asked in response to this Truss quote about stopping NHS cancer treatment, what would people do who needed cancer treatment? The "bubble" response is obviously they would pay to go private. This is where we were heading under the lying Tories. It remains to be seen if the NHS will fare better under a Labour Government. The settlement of the junior doctors' dispute is an encouraging start.

[silverhibee]

I'm no great fan of Janey Godley, but no one facing cancer deserves to have the potential leader of the Scottish Tories post this on social media.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVpRIFtWMAA2O64?format=jpg&name=large

I know this isn’t recent but it’s disgusting, is it a hate crime.?

Read the above, he is still a pwick.

[grunt]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp352n8q743o

10,000 homes on ex-military bases were never built

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp352n8q743o

10,000 homes on ex-military bases were never built

Because they used them to house/detain asylum seekers.

[grunt]

Because they used them to house/detain asylum seekers.Not quite as simple as that. The scheme was ended in 2022; only one of the seven sites in the scheme was used to house asylum seekers and that wasn't done until last year, after the arrangement with Homes England was terminated. Announced to great fanfare, once again the Lying Tory Government did absolutely nothing. Zip. Nada.

[grunt]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/aug/30/alarm-at-failure-to-inspect-60-of-england-homecare-providers-in-four-years-or-longer?CMP=share_btn_url

Alarm at failure to inspect 60% of England homecare providers in four years or longer



Care leaders have warned of a serious safety risk as research revealed 60% of homecare providers had not been inspected for at least four years, or ever.

As the government prepares to receive a report on profound failings at its Care Quality Commission (CQC) that triggered the chief executive’s removal this summer and a public apology, the Homecare Association warned 37% of providers of domiciliary care services had not been rated for at least four years and 23% had never been rated.If anyone votes for the Lying Tories again in my lifetime, they need their heads examined.

[Jack]

Private Eye. Central Bedfordshire council has “mothballed” the housing company it set up in 2020, New Vista Homes, because despite consuming £600,000 of public money a year it hasn’t actually built any houses.

Apparently a tory MP involved with New Vista Homes.

[Kato]

Private Eye. Central Bedfordshire council has “mothballed” the housing company it set up in 2020, New Vista Homes, because despite consuming £600,000 of public money a year it hasn’t actually built any houses.

Apparently a tory MP involved with New Vista Homes.£600,000 for producing nowt is actually a bargain with that lot. They usually spend way more with nothing to show for it.

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[Bostonhibby]

£600,000 for producing nowt is actually a bargain with that lot. They usually spend way more with nothing to show for it.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkAhem, Bozo's garden bridge project anyone?

Just the £53m and nothing delivered despite massive consultancy fees to the favoured few and a handy £1.7m to the chief executive who delivered zilch- in terms of what a finished bridge/garden might look like.

Never even started.

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[grunt]

Private Eye. Central Bedfordshire council has “mothballed” the housing company it set up in 2020, New Vista Homes, because despite consuming £600,000 of public money a year it hasn’t actually built any houses.
Is that where the SNP's missing £600k went?

[Kato]

Ahem, Bozo's garden bridge project anyone?

Just the £53m and nothing delivered despite massive consultancy fees to the favoured few and a handy £1.7m to the chief executive who delivered zilch- in terms of what a finished bridge/garden might look like.

Never even started.

Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkThere will be other "projects" with a bigger spend for nowt produced surely.

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[Bostonhibby]

There will be other "projects" with a bigger spend for nowt produced surely.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkHS2 consultancy was apparently a good place to be.

I'd say like being Matt Hancock's pub landlord but on a much larger scale.

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[lapsedhibee]

There will be other "projects" with a bigger spend for nowt produced surely.


Can't remember now, but did Brexit cost anything? :dunno:

[Hibrandenburg]

Can't remember now, but did Brexit cost anything? :dunno:

I think the bill is still racking up.

[Jones28]

Can't remember now, but did Brexit cost anything? :dunno:

The number is increasing too quickly to count it.

[Kato]

Can't remember now, but did Brexit cost anything? :dunno:That cost is ineffable. Its biggest cost to the nation is probably how it changed content of its discourse, "whaa, boohoo, foreigners - whaa, boohoo the EU are nazis, sovereignty nyaanya".


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[cabbageandribs1875]

Patel knocked out after the first round for leadership of the nasty corrupt party with just 14 votes

Jenrick- 28 votes
Bad Enoch- 22 votes
Cleverly- 21 votes
Tugendhat- 17 votes
Mel Stride- 16 votes

[Stairway 2 7]

Patel knocked out after the first round for leadership of the nasty corrupt party with just 14 votes

Jenrick- 28 votes
Bad Enoch- 22 votes
Cleverly- 21 votes
Tugendhat- 17 votes
Mel Stride- 16 votes

It's great seeing **** bags knocked out until you see who's left, a real lose lose

[cabbageandribs1875]

It's great seeing **** bags knocked out until you see who's left, a real lose lose


Mel Stride out now

[cabbageandribs1875]

crooked corrupt thieving ****s :agree: get those blue tents out Fury Towards The Tories As Study Examines Covid Contracts | HuffPost UK Politics (huffingtonpost.co.uk) (https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/fury-towards-the-tories-as-study-examines-covid-contracts_uk_66defca3e4b01b464f3e24f4)

[Jack]

crooked corrupt thieving ****s :agree: get those blue tents out Fury Towards The Tories As Study Examines Covid Contracts | HuffPost UK Politics (huffingtonpost.co.uk) (https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/fury-towards-the-tories-as-study-examines-covid-contracts_uk_66defca3e4b01b464f3e24f4)

Articles like this mean nothing until the money is recovered and the miscreants do jail time.

Not just those who benefited from it but right back to the people that came up with the idea and those involved throughout the whole scam.

[Kato]

Articles like this mean nothing until the money is recovered and the miscreants do jail time.

Not just those who benefited from it but right back to the people that came up with the idea and those involved throughout the whole scam.ITV drama series required before the general public realise just how horrendously criminal this is.

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[Kato]

https://x.com/BladeoftheS/status/1835779704311382191?t=jEUcrHUDjkVUdoJ0sc3F6g&s=19

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[Stairway 2 7]

https://x.com/BladeoftheS/status/1835779704311382191?t=jEUcrHUDjkVUdoJ0sc3F6g&s=19

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A great article as usual from JBM on the subject. One major problem is the constant loop of objections meetings and planning. I put up before a train line in England only 5 miles long got eventually scrapped after sitting 8 years in planning and having a 20k page report. Someone is making huge amounts from planning and objections in the uk it would be good if someone dug into it.


https://archive.ph/dIrgI

The Nimby tax on Britain and America
Local objections and protracted reviews mean new infrastructure projects cost far more in the UK and US than elsewhere

John Burn-Murdoch

[Kato]

A great article as usual from JBM on the subject. One major problem is the constant loop of objections meetings and planning. I put up before a train line in England only 5 miles long got eventually scrapped after sitting 8 years in planning and having a 20k page report. Someone is making huge amounts from planning and objections in the uk it would be good if someone dug into it.


https://archive.ph/dIrgI

The Nimby tax on Britain and America
Local objections and protracted reviews mean new infrastructure projects cost far more in the UK and US than elsewhere

John Burn-MurdochPlanning procrastination and planning scams took a lot of cash no doubt, but the sheer incompetence and plain corruption is off the scale.

Billions gone on nothing.

This will somehow be the fault of migrants of course. [emoji849]

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[grunt]

Really enjoyed this long form interview by Amol Rajan with John Major.
If you have a spare 44 minutes I urge you to check it out.
It's what UK politicians used to be like.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002338c/amol-rajan-interviews-john-major

[cabbageandribs1875]

Articles like this mean nothing until the money is recovered and the miscreants do jail time.

Not just those who benefited from it but right back to the people that came up with the idea and those involved throughout the whole scam.


i doubt very much British Labour will recover anything, still waiting on this "Covid corruption tsar" to be announced, but i'm sure it's just the usual waiting game until the public either forget or just don't care of the blatant corruption

[cabbageandribs1875]

Kemi Bad enoch says she became working class when she worked in McDonalds when she was 16 (7) James O'Brien on X: "Sorrywhatpardon?" / X (https://x.com/mrjamesob/status/1836317642262520277)


one comment suggested she become criminal class when she hacked Harman's Website

[Stairway 2 7]

Kemi Bad enoch says she became working class when she worked in McDonalds when she was 16 (7) James O'Brien on X: "Sorrywhatpardon?" / X (https://x.com/mrjamesob/status/1836317642262520277)


one comment suggested she become criminal class when she hacked Harman's Website

That's nothing I became working class when I had a pint in the dockers before the game on Saturday, I became middle class by getting a beer in the Balmoral post game and I think I became royalty when I visited Holyrood palace on the Sunday?

[Hibrandenburg]

Really enjoyed this long form interview by Amol Rajan with John Major.
If you have a spare 44 minutes I urge you to check it out.
It's what UK politicians used to be like.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002338c/amol-rajan-interviews-john-major

I watched it the other day and was thinking that Major comes across as further left than Starmer. Decent watch that brought back some memories, not all of them good.

[cabbageandribs1875]

That's nothing I became working class when I had a pint in the dockers before the game on Saturday, I became middle class by getting a beer in the Balmoral post game and I think I became royalty when I visited Holyrood palace on the Sunday?


you must be minted :cb


I watched it the other day and was thinking that Major comes across as further left than Starmer. Decent watch that brought back some memories, not all of them good.

i remember thinking Kenneth Clarke, yes Kenneth Clarke, was possibly the last remaining Tory just before he retired with the slightest part of a moral compass

[grunt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYAPwN0WwAAQWPo?format=png&name=900x900

[Jack]

All these gifts all these politicians are receiving. I hope they're paying tax on them.

CropleyWasGod might be able to confirm there's a £3,000 limit on tax free gifting, or whatever its known as. And there must be some tax due on all the other donations.

[lapsedhibee]

All these gifts all these politicians are receiving. I hope they're paying tax on them.

CropleyWasGod might be able to confirm there's a £3,000 limit on tax free gifting, or whatever its known as. And there must be some tax due on all the other donations.

I don't think there's any tax due unless Alli's clogs pop within the next 7 years, in which case his estate will have to stump up.

[CropleyWasGod]

All these gifts all these politicians are receiving. I hope they're paying tax on them.

CropleyWasGod might be able to confirm there's a £3,000 limit on tax free gifting, or whatever its known as. And there must be some tax due on all the other donations.

The donations aren't tax-deductible for the donors. Largely for that reason, they're not taxable on the donees.

The £3k you're thinking about is the annual limit on gifts by individuals, for Inheritance Tax purposes. Donations to parties are exempt from IHT.

[Jack]

The donations aren't tax-deductible for the donors. Largely for that reason, they're not taxable on the donees.

The £3k you're thinking about is the annual limit on gifts by individuals, for Inheritance Tax purposes. Donations to parties are exempt from IHT.

Thanks. How do I become a donee? 😆

[Bostonhibby]

Thanks. How do I become a donee? [emoji38]Send me £3000 and I'll tell you.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/460610307_3710537785827599_5538659821809954395_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=Gfn5nphsKcEQ7kNvgGw_Dwh&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AYDy3muKXPHW0Io2W3UiodOiCdgQfzRMPANOUlb-55yIoQ&oe=66F60031

[grunt]

https://goodlawproject.org/tories-shelled-out-114m-in-payouts-for-undelivered-covid-contracts/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=glp_post_13586&utm_medium=social_media&utm_content=24-09-2024


Tories shelled out £114m in payouts for undelivered Covid contracts

The health department and the UK Health Security Agency have shelled out £114m after cancelling contracts for equipment that was never needed, or items which didn’t meet specifications, a Good Law Project investigation has revealed. All these payouts were made before the election. And 86% of this money has been handed to firms linked with senior Tory figures.

[cabbageandribs1875]

took her long enough to notice Baroness Sayeeda Warsi quits Conservatives after claiming party is ‘far right’ (inews.co.uk) (https://inews.co.uk/news/baroness-sayeeda-warsi-quits-conservatives-after-claiming-party-is-far-right-3297666?fbclid=IwY2xjawFihNtleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHYNje rnrsWeRfp2FWUvngqlY4Vb6JPBjZTETOtStyv5cHV6PYU3-2xkxNQ_aem_ouOkLZiy18KKVeAnrFV_dA)

Baroness Sayeeda Warsi has quit the Conservatives (https://inews.co.uk/topic/conservative-party?srsltid=AfmBOoqFKdLYzYUekqDfSpp77Vkx53L0sWNS HUz8veJG7gcZtLZ-QY-K?ico=in-line_link) after claiming the party has moved to the “far-right”.

[Moulin Yarns]

took her long enough to notice but at least she's showing some integrity Baroness Sayeeda Warsi quits Conservatives after claiming party is ‘far right’ (inews.co.uk) (https://inews.co.uk/news/baroness-sayeeda-warsi-quits-conservatives-after-claiming-party-is-far-right-3297666?fbclid=IwY2xjawFihNtleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHYNje rnrsWeRfp2FWUvngqlY4Vb6JPBjZTETOtStyv5cHV6PYU3-2xkxNQ_aem_ouOkLZiy18KKVeAnrFV_dA)

Baroness Sayeeda Warsi has quit the Conservatives (https://inews.co.uk/topic/conservative-party?srsltid=AfmBOoqFKdLYzYUekqDfSpp77Vkx53L0sWNS HUz8veJG7gcZtLZ-QY-K?ico=in-line_link) after claiming the party has moved to the “far-right”.

More to it as I understand it. She was about to be investigated for tweets.

[cabbageandribs1875]

More to it as I understand it. She was about to be investigated for tweets.


i've made a slight Edit



for now anyway :)

[Jack]

took her long enough to notice Baroness Sayeeda Warsi quits Conservatives after claiming party is ‘far right’ (inews.co.uk) (https://inews.co.uk/news/baroness-sayeeda-warsi-quits-conservatives-after-claiming-party-is-far-right-3297666?fbclid=IwY2xjawFihNtleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHYNje rnrsWeRfp2FWUvngqlY4Vb6JPBjZTETOtStyv5cHV6PYU3-2xkxNQ_aem_ouOkLZiy18KKVeAnrFV_dA)

Baroness Sayeeda Warsi has quit the Conservatives (https://inews.co.uk/topic/conservative-party?srsltid=AfmBOoqFKdLYzYUekqDfSpp77Vkx53L0sWNS HUz8veJG7gcZtLZ-QY-K?ico=in-line_link) after claiming the party has moved to the “far-right”.

After things she's said on talk shows and stuff like HIGNFY I'm surprised she wasn't chucked out years ago.

[grunt]

New leader of Scottish Tories - Russell Findlay. Who is he?

[Berwickhibby]

New leader of Scottish Tories - Russell Findlay. Who is he?

Who cares

[Kato]

New leader of Scottish Tories - Russell Findlay. Who is he?Might as well be Findlay Russell.

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[grunt]

Who cares
Fair point.

[Bostonhibby]

New leader of Scottish Tories - Russell Findlay. Who is he?Did he used to work with Dr Cameron all those years ago?

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[grunt]

Down South, the Lying Tories are choosing another new leader. Jenrick looks to be favourite, with Badenoch a close second.
They are all bat**** crazy. Although one adviser seems to be quite perceptive:


However, former Conservative adviser Rachel Woolf warned the panel not to underestimate the scale of dislike for the party, saying that, “We cannot for one second convince ourselves that we’re not loathed. We are, and we haven’t done any of the necessary steps [to turn things around]”

https://bylinetimes.com/2024/09/30/conservative-leadership-robert-jenrick-plans-to-win-a-culture-war-with-young-people/

[Ozyhibby]

Down South, the Lying Tories are choosing another new leader. Jenrick looks to be favourite, with Badenoch a close second.
They are all bat**** crazy. Although one adviser seems to be quite perceptive:



https://bylinetimes.com/2024/09/30/conservative-leadership-robert-jenrick-plans-to-win-a-culture-war-with-young-people/

Labour keeps going the way they are and it won’t matter what they are, just what they are not.


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[grunt]

Tell me once again that the New Lying Tory party is not fascist.
This video from Jenrick (current favourite for new Lying Tory leader) is more bat**** crazy stuff

https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1840659469727916246

If you dont believe me, perhaps listen to former Tory Attorney General Dominic Grieve:


This is one of the most astonishing videos I have ever seen posted by a Conservative MP, let alone a candidate for the leadership. Most of it is twaddle, a series of promises of change that leaving the ECHR will do nothing to take forward.

[grunt]

https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1840704607867089026


Conservative fringe meeting on immigration discussing how to persuade women to "breed for Britain" in order to "grow more" social care workers, one day after Kemi Badenoch's comments about "excessive" maternity pay.

[grunt]

Liz Truss at the Lying Tory Conference:



Liz Truss tells Conservative party conference that she is a "huge fan" of Argentina's far right leader Javia Milei. Says if Milei were standing for Tory leader "I would back him in a shot"
I would have done better than Rishi Sunak at the general election and could even have won if I'd stayed as leader, says Liz Truss
Liz Truss now calling for universities and other organisations to be "defunded" if they're "antithetical to conservative values"
Asked to say something that will cheer up the audience, Liz Truss replies that "Donald Trump might win". Big round of applause from the audience
Liz Truss says she agrees with Kemi Badenoch that some cultures are "less valid" than others, saying that Britain is based on "Judeo Christian values and that should prevail". Adds that she thinks the Star of David should be placed at entry points to the UK
Theresa May "is part of the establishment" unlike me, says former Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury, Liz Truss
Liz Truss says people's mortgages only went up after her mini-budget because of the Bank of England, not because of anything she said, or did. Blames "the media" for not reporting she wasn't to blame.
"Conservatives won't succeed until we get rid of the Office for Budget Responsibility," says Liz Truss

[Stairway 2 7]

Liz Truss at the Lying Tory Conference:



Liz Truss tells Conservative party conference that she is a "huge fan" of Argentina's far right leader Javia Milei. Says if Milei were standing for Tory leader "I would back him in a shot"
I would have done better than Rishi Sunak at the general election and could even have won if I'd stayed as leader, says Liz Truss
Liz Truss now calling for universities and other organisations to be "defunded" if they're "antithetical to conservative values"
Asked to say something that will cheer up the audience, Liz Truss replies that "Donald Trump might win". Big round of applause from the audience
Liz Truss says she agrees with Kemi Badenoch that some cultures are "less valid" than others, saying that Britain is based on "Judeo Christian values and that should prevail". Adds that she thinks the Star of David should be placed at entry points to the UK
Theresa May "is part of the establishment" unlike me, says former Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury, Liz Truss
Liz Truss says people's mortgages only went up after her mini-budget because of the Bank of England, not because of anything she said, or did. Blames "the media" for not reporting she wasn't to blame.
"Conservatives won't succeed until we get rid of the Office for Budget Responsibility," says Liz Truss


Apparently got one of the largest audiences. I'm sure there is an appetite in a section of the tories for a Trump like nutter

[Kato]

Apparently got one of the largest audiences. I'm sure there is an appetite in a section of the tories for a Trump like nutterYes. His name is Boris Johnson.


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[Hibrandenburg]

https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1840704607867089026

Sounds like the Nazi Lebensborn project introduced by Himmler in 1935.

[Hibrandenburg]

Apparently got one of the largest audiences. I'm sure there is an appetite in a section of the tories for a Trump like nutter

We've had one, however he spoke with a public school accent so not many people noticed.

[Hibrandenburg]

Yes. His name is Boris Johnson.


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Jinx

[Jack]

Liz Truss at the Lying Tory Conference:



Liz Truss tells Conservative party conference that she is a "huge fan" of Argentina's far right leader Javia Milei. Says if Milei were standing for Tory leader "I would back him in a shot"
I would have done better than Rishi Sunak at the general election and could even have won if I'd stayed as leader, says Liz Truss
Liz Truss now calling for universities and other organisations to be "defunded" if they're "antithetical to conservative values"
Asked to say something that will cheer up the audience, Liz Truss replies that "Donald Trump might win". Big round of applause from the audience
Liz Truss says she agrees with Kemi Badenoch that some cultures are "less valid" than others, saying that Britain is based on "Judeo Christian values and that should prevail". Adds that she thinks the Star of David should be placed at entry points to the UK
Theresa May "is part of the establishment" unlike me, says former Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury, Liz Truss
Liz Truss says people's mortgages only went up after her mini-budget because of the Bank of England, not because of anything she said, or did. Blames "the media" for not reporting she wasn't to blame.
"Conservatives won't succeed until we get rid of the Office for Budget Responsibility," says Liz Truss


You'd think any party would be too embarrassed to put such an idiot on a conference podium.

Then you remember it's the torys.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1840704607867089026

We obviously need more kids born but the only way you get that is with houses and reasonable priced childcare and maternity pay, we've none of the above. Badendock want growth but no immigrants or encouraging childbirth. With a aging nation that's just mental

[Stairway 2 7]

Spare a thought for Jonathan Gullis who after years of bigotry is finding it hard to get a job post election defeat

https://x.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1840707181202579504

@PoliticsJOE_UK
"I think the days when being an ex-mp was something that was wanted or desired are no longer."

Former Tory MP Jonathan Gullis says he has not been able to get a job since losing his seat from Parliament

[grunt]

Kemi Badenoch:


"Islamist terrorism is something that should never be appeased," she said."Israel is at the frontline, and it is surrounded by a lot of enemies.

"I think what they are doing is extraordinary.

People said getting the leader of Hezbollah couldn't be done, people ask Israel to do things like be more targeted so they don't harm civilians.

"They did that amazing thing with the pagers and when they did that they were criticised for it.

"They are always criticised, and I am very sympathetic to the Israeli argument."

She later added that "we must not forget the Palestinian people who are not Hamas".

[lapsedhibee]

Spare a thought for Jonathan Gullis who after years of bigotry is finding it hard to get a job post election defeat

https://x.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1840707181202579504

@PoliticsJOE_UK
"I think the days when being an ex-mp was something that was wanted or desired are no longer."

Former Tory MP Jonathan Gullis says he has not been able to get a job since losing his seat from Parliament

They've been in power for well over two months, why haven't Labour done anything about the appalling job prospects for baboons yet? :grr:

[grunt]

Spare a thought for Jonathan Gullis who after years of bigotry is finding it hard to get a job post election defeat

https://x.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1840707181202579504

@PoliticsJOE_UK
"I think the days when being an ex-mp was something that was wanted or desired are no longer."

Former Tory MP Jonathan Gullis says he has not been able to get a job since losing his seat from Parliament:greengrin:greengrin
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYu8NMrWcAA0YZj?format=jpg&name=medium

[Bostonhibby]

Spare a thought for Jonathan Gullis who after years of bigotry is finding it hard to get a job post election defeat

https://x.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1840707181202579504

@PoliticsJOE_UK
"I think the days when being an ex-mp was something that was wanted or desired are no longer."

Former Tory MP Jonathan Gullis says he has not been able to get a job since losing his seat from ParliamentHe's goosed.

Imagine having to rely on your natural skills and ability alone to earn a living.

Patronage, coat tailing others and spouting populist crap only gets certain types so far.

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[grunt]

He's goosed.
He'll get a job with the Telegraph, or the Spectator, or some other loony right wing mouthpiece.
He's useful to the right wing bigots.

[Stairway 2 7]

He'll get a job with the Telegraph, or the Spectator, or some other loony right wing mouthpiece.
He's useful to the right wing bigots.

Reform maybe?

[Bostonhibby]

He'll get a job with the Telegraph, or the Spectator, or some other loony right wing mouthpiece.
He's useful to the right wing bigots.[emoji106]Like I said, imagine having to rely on his natural talent alone

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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/politicoforyou/status/1840723236499137012?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

Knew it was them all along.[emoji35]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[Stairway 2 7]

https://x.com/politicoforyou/status/1840723236499137012?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

Knew it was them all along.[emoji35]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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Doris Soprano calling the shots of uk media and industry capeesh. Absolute fruit loop of a woman

[cabbageandribs1875]

Busy Busy
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/461221673_8459843244072432_954675397645189266_n.jp g?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=2mK18MkUFOkQ7kNvgEXB2ib&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&_nc_gid=AgH2igVxo_Y9pA9ZiByPWsj&oh=00_AYCYSZuGll7Tzv_y_QP9g77v_LtfYss3BcdIQ-ypqvw47A&oe=6700BFC9

[grunt]

Jenrick's crazy video and his determination to leave the ECHR


Jenrick provides no explanation as to how he would deal with the consequences of leaving the ECHR. It underpins our current relationship with the EU. Without it we will be unable to share data essential to commerce and security and our TCA would collapse. The Good Friday agreement requires Northern Ireland to be adherent to the ECHR and we have agreed it should. Not to discuss how he intends to get round this makes his pitch valueless.

[JimBHibees]

https://x.com/politicoforyou/status/1840723236499137012?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

Knew it was them all along.[emoji35]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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😲

[Bostonhibby]

https://x.com/politicoforyou/status/1840723236499137012?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

Knew it was them all along.[emoji35]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAnd here's me thinking it was trussenomics and Kwakers Kwarteng that crashed the economy and created the mess that seen them sacked.

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[McD]

https://x.com/politicoforyou/status/1840723236499137012?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

Knew it was them all along.[emoji35]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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Trump level delusion from Truss. Someone should have asked her why she took the job as PM if she didn’t think that role was the leader of country

[Jones28]

Listening to LBC, Betfair having a segment on the Presidential Race and they've done a UK poll.

The UK would vote for Harris by 60%, but support for Trump has doubled since the last election!

WTF?

[Jones28]

Busy Busy
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/461221673_8459843244072432_954675397645189266_n.jp g?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=2mK18MkUFOkQ7kNvgEXB2ib&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&_nc_gid=AgH2igVxo_Y9pA9ZiByPWsj&oh=00_AYCYSZuGll7Tzv_y_QP9g77v_LtfYss3BcdIQ-ypqvw47A&oe=6700BFC9

Lol.

[grunt]

Robert Jenrick:

"I'm for finishing the job we started with Brexit"

"And restoring to our people and parliament it's sovereignty"

"Under my leadership the new Conservative party will stand for a new Great Reform Act"

"One that leaves the ECHR.. Repeals Tony Blair's Human Rights Act.. And writes a British bill of rights"

"That is the only way we get the foreign terrorists, the criminals, off our streets and out of our country"

:na na:

[JimBHibees]

Robert Jenrick:

"I'm for finishing the job we started with Brexit"

"And restoring to our people and parliament it's sovereignty"

"Under my leadership the new Conservative party will stand for a new Great Reform Act"

"One that leaves the ECHR.. Repeals Tony Blair's Human Rights Act.. And writes a British bill of rights"

"That is the only way we get the foreign terrorists, the criminals, off our streets and out of our country"

:na na:

Very Trump like

[Kato]

It's all just wishy washy drivel. Nothing substantial to take the country forward other nationalistic tub thumping.

His face when being drilled on who gave him £75,000* for his campaign showed him to be nothing other than another conman.

*a faceless shell company, which does nothing, has no employees and has debts of £300,000

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/businessman-reveals-he-is-behind-75-000-donation-to-robert-jenrick-but-tax-haven-questions-remain-13225253

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[grunt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GY90CACWkAAyP4y?format=jpg&name=medium

[cabbageandribs1875]

The Torygraph

https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/t6e/1/16/1f534.png EXCLUSIVE: Former PM Boris Johnson reveals in his memoir that his security team found the bug when the Israeli prime minister visited him in 2017


https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/461966955_946690620838904_8543951800763604144_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=_WC62jeRcKYQ7kNvgGvc_Dt&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&_nc_gid=AAKE5fiqCaAGTc4nbrIAwFj&oh=00_AYDhYyXXUnxU2KHyslClIxiiRWxrgMHBJs9hrQC1l1zh qQ&oe=6704C113

[Ozyhibby]

The Torygraph

https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/t6e/1/16/1f534.png EXCLUSIVE: Former PM Boris Johnson reveals in his memoir that his security team found the bug when the Israeli prime minister visited him in 2017


https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/461966955_946690620838904_8543951800763604144_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=_WC62jeRcKYQ7kNvgGvc_Dt&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&_nc_gid=AAKE5fiqCaAGTc4nbrIAwFj&oh=00_AYDhYyXXUnxU2KHyslClIxiiRWxrgMHBJs9hrQC1l1zh qQ&oe=6704C113

Is that espionage or just kinkyness?
Johnson will say anything to make a quid or just to make himself sound interesting. He was invading Holland last week. He is a Walter Mitty character who we just happened to have made PM.


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[grunt]

****

https://www.itv.com/news/2024-10-04/boris-johnson-tells-itv-news-he-regrets-apologising-for-partygate?utm_source=NewsApp&utm_medium=SocialShare

[McD]

****

https://www.itv.com/news/2024-10-04/boris-johnson-tells-itv-news-he-regrets-apologising-for-partygate?utm_source=NewsApp&utm_medium=SocialShare



A self serving sleazy ****bag

[Bostonhibby]

A self serving sleazy ****bagAll about him. Like most narcissists.

Hopefully reflecting on how the families feel who needlessly lost loved ones on his watch at the same time? Perhaps not.

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[JimBHibees]

Did he explain in his book when Foreign secretary he went without his security to a mansion of an ex kgb in Italy

[Bostonhibby]

Did he explain in his book when Foreign secretary he went without his security to a mansion of an ex kgb in ItalyHe was in no condition to remember it, so how could he write about it?

Looks like the morning after the time Billy Bunter went to a National Lampoons Animal House Party and sunk a whole bottle of Absinthe for breakfast.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/boris-johnson-security-evgeny-lebedev-perugia-party

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[Lendo]

He was in no condition to remember it, so how could he write about it?

Looks like the morning after the time Billy Bunter went to a National Lampoons Animal House Party and sunk a whole bottle of Absinthe for breakfast.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/boris-johnson-security-evgeny-lebedev-perugia-party

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You’ve got to think that there must be come compromising videos from these parties being held over his head.

[Bostonhibby]

You’ve got to think that there must be come compromising videos from these parties being held over his head.Shooting fish in a barrel.

If you look at what he and fellow Nasties were actually doing when people were dying and the rest of us were locking down who knows what might have happened there, and elsewhere.



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[cabbageandribs1875]

she's a ticket eh


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GY1NPbjXoAAYjDF?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GY1NPbrWQAAy6-l?format=jpg&name=360x360

[grunt]

Farage caught out in another lie. Zero consequences.

https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1843242847912284318

[Bostonhibby]

she's a ticket eh


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GY1NPbjXoAAYjDF?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GY1NPbrWQAAy6-l?format=jpg&name=360x360But, I suspect absolutely no members of the government she was part of should suffer similar fates in any way, even where they were responsible for departments these poor civil servants worked for? Or indeed any of the rest of their dodgy conduct during Covid crises?

Toxic individual, kind of hope she wins as probably incapable of getting much more support than the original hard core nutters the Nasty party right wing have left.

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[Hibrandenburg]

she's a ticket eh


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GY1NPbjXoAAYjDF?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GY1NPbrWQAAy6-l?format=jpg&name=360x360

Imagine being a civil servant and having to implement the crazy policies those nutcases have come up with over the last years, especially those who work for the FCDO in EU countries.

[lapsedhibee]

Johnson criticises Starmer for being greedy and corrupt.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/08/boris-johnson-hits-out-at-greedy-keir-starmer-over-freebies

****.

[Bostonhibby]

Johnson criticises Starmer for being greedy and corrupt.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/08/boris-johnson-hits-out-at-greedy-keir-starmer-over-freebies

****.Bozo has no filter/self awareness.

He was very fond of a "donation" himself. Usually more substantial and not remotely relatable to his role as a minister/PM. £23k to help pay for his wedding being an example.

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[lapsedhibee]

Bozo has no filter/self awareness.

He was very fond of a "donation" himself. Usually more substantial and not remotely relatable to his role as a minister/PM. £23k to help pay for his wedding being an example.


Him or Farage for Tory party leader by 2029 I think.

****s.

[Bostonhibby]

Him or Farage for Tory party leader by 2029 I think.

****s.There's every chance, Bozo will flip to follow whatever trend gets him where he wants to be and as the Nasties lurch further right in a desperate attempt to respond to Reform some sort of merger seems inevitable.

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[overdrive]

Cleverly knocked out of the race despite leading yesterday’s vote.

He was the least nutjobby of the three I’d say. Not a ringing endorsement, I know.

[Jack]

Enoch Powell was bad enough. A Bad Enoch duznae bare thinking about.

[Stairway 2 7]

Cleverly knocked out of the race despite leading yesterday’s vote.

He was the least nutjobby of the three I’d say. Not a ringing endorsement, I know.

Very surprised with that, Badendock will win with the members. Another of the tories child of immigrants who want to treat immigrants abhorrently. Horrendous woman

[nonshinyfinish]

Very surprised with that, Badendock will win with the members. Another of the tories child of immigrants who want to treat immigrants abhorrently. Horrendous woman

Virtually every commentator had Cleverly as a certainty to get to the final two.

The theory seems to be that Cleverly supporters voted tactically for Jenrick (to eliminate Badenoch). Whether it was coordinated or not is another question, but either way it backfired.

[Ozyhibby]

Virtually every commentator had Cleverly as a certainty to get to the final two.

The theory seems to be that Cleverly supporters voted tactically for Jenrick (to eliminate Badenoch). Whether it was coordinated or not is another question, but either way it backfired.

Up there with Andy Burnham lending votes to Corbyn so that he could run in 2015. These idiots deserve their fate.


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[lapsedhibee]

Up there with Andy Burnham lending votes to Corbyn so that he could run in 2015. These idiots deserve their fate.


Cleverly was never winning the members' vote anyway, not nearly bat**** enough. Wonder how much racial dogwhistling we might hear from Jenrick now it's one on one.

[Kato]

Cleverly was never winning the members' vote anyway, not nearly bat**** enough. Wonder how much racial dogwhistling we might hear from Jenrick now it's one on one.He's going down the Ronald Dump route. So lots.

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[Bostonhibby]

Cleverly was never winning the members' vote anyway, not nearly bat**** enough. Wonder how much racial dogwhistling we might hear from Jenrick now it's one on one.Very positive for non Nasty party supporters as surely both are unelectable even if they will be popular with the hard right who are a decreasing group as far as the nasties are concerned?

Both could well end up in an alliance with a Farageist monstrosity in an attempt to get the actual power they crave but wee Nige could hold the future of the Nasties in his hands at the next election

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[Stairway 2 7]

Cleverly was never winning the members' vote anyway, not nearly bat**** enough. Wonder how much racial dogwhistling we might hear from Jenrick now it's one on one.

Cleverly would have beat Jenrick easy if polls of Conservative members were to believed, Badendock also polls well ahead of Jenrick.

I'm not sure if Badendock lasts 5 years. She has a high ceiling with the Tories but a low floor as is seen as weird by many Tories who are polled

[Stairway 2 7]

Very positive for non Nasty party supporters as surely both are unelectable even if they will be popular with the hard right who are a decreasing group as far as the nasties are concerned?

Both could well end up in an alliance with a Farageist monstrosity in an attempt to get the actual power they crave but wee Nige could hold the future of the Nasties in his hands at the next election

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She apparently despises Farage and has been scathing of him and reform in the press. The problem I'd they don't defeat Labour unless each other step aside in seats. Jenrick looks and sounds like he'd work with anyone that would have him

[Bostonhibby]

She apparently despises Farage and has been scathing of him and reform in the press. The problem I'd they don't defeat Labour unless each other step aside in seats. Jenrick looks and sounds like he'd work with anyone that would have himBoth will quickly flip to do whatever gets them to where they want to be this is about power and self aggrandisement and little else.

If an alliance with satan to lead the right was required that's where they'll be

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[Kato]

If an alliance with satan to lead the right was required that's where they'll be



Yes, he's in the running now I understand.

Using his Arch-Angel Lucifer handle - popular with the over 79 and a halfs.

Probably kinder and more progressive than most of the seeyounexttuesdays we've had recently.





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[Bostonhibby]

Yes, he's in the running now I understand.

Using his Arch-Angel Lucifer handle - popular with the over 79 and a halfs.

Probably kinder and more progressive than most of the seeyounexttuesdays we've had recently.





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At the end of the day given the majority given to Labour by a big cross section of the electorate, which is theirs to blow, this weird wee election is the classic two bald people fighting over a comb.

A very small group of people who pay to be members of a dying party will now pick from a choice of the only two that are on offer.

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[Kato]

Weirdos arguing with weirdos trying to please the weirdo demograph. Best left to it I suppose.

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[Kato]

[Pinched from elsewhere]

Now that the Tory leadership battle is down to the final two, members get to choose between the evil of two lessers.

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[Bostonhibby]

The electoral system that gave us Truss and Sunak with no chance to actually vote for them looks like delivering another by - product of Nasty party infighting for our short term amusement.

Looks like james not so Cleverly supporters have accidentally knocked him out . Some of his supporters have voted for jenrick thinking he would have a better chance against jenrick . Result is not so Cleverly might actually have been the "moderate" who topped the earlier poll but is out because of how his own supporters used their closed voting system.

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[grunt]

Warning: Rude word. (Entirely justified, IMO)

https://x.com/jasemonkey/status/1844410520998383861

[Paul1642]

Very positive for non Nasty party supporters as surely both are unelectable even if they will be popular with the hard right who are a decreasing group as far as the nasties are concerned?

Both could well end up in an alliance with a Farageist monstrosity in an attempt to get the actual power they crave but wee Nige could hold the future of the Nasties in his hands at the next election

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Unfortunately it’s possibly not as straight forward as this. If Labour implode, which they are always more than capable of, then the Tory’s win regardless of their leader.

Starmer didn’t win a landslide because very many people particularly thought he was good, but rather because the Tory’s had imploded. The same can just as easily happen the opposite direction at the next execution.

Reform are the big variable in this of course if they increase their vote share.

[lapsedhibee]

Unfortunately it’s possibly not as straight forward as this. If Labour implode, which they are always more than capable of, then the Tory’s win regardless of their leader.

Starmer didn’t win a landslide because very many people particularly thought he was good, but rather because the Tory’s had imploded. The same can just as easily happen the opposite direction at the next execution.

Reform are the big variable in this of course if they increase their vote share.

Even if Labour don't implode, all the Tories need to do to win the next election is lift the phone to Farage and persuade him to join them. Tories and Reform combined will waltz a 2029 election unless Starmer's government turns out to be very special indeed, and so far there's not too much sign of that.

[Bostonhibby]

I can entirely see how both posts above have credibility.

When the Farageists absorb the swivel eyed loons that are left in the remnants of the Nasty party there will never be a better time to divide mainland britain, the "south" and everywhere else might take care of England electorally?

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[Kato]

Warning: Rude word. (Entirely justified, IMO)

https://x.com/jasemonkey/status/1844410520998383861Was travelling through London today.

Going down the escamalater at King's Cross into the Underground there's a huge animated advertising screen looming over people as they descend.....figure of Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson dissolves into focus...promo for his book.

[Tube Voice shouts/ie Me]
"MIND THE TWAT"

70% of peeps laughed...not bad return

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[grunt]

https://youtu.be/_5DrGZxy1qQ?si=4rbq11_5hqgG9gxB

[lapsedhibee]

Was travelling through London today.

Going down the escamalater at King's Cross into the Underground there's a huge animated advertising screen looming over people as they descend.....figure of Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson dissolves into focus...promo for his book.

[Tube Voice shouts/ie Me]
"MIND THE TWAT"




:greengrin

[Moulin Yarns]

Was travelling through London today.

Going down the escamalater at King's Cross into the Underground there's a huge animated advertising screen looming over people as they descend.....figure of Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson dissolves into focus...promo for his book.

[Tube Voice shouts/ie Me]
"MIND THE TWAT"

70% of peeps laughed...not bad return

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https://www.threads.net/@fionasianchalmers/post/DA-4TTPOShA?xmt=AQGz1jr8yQLB9Q4K69QbUtQ9XMnhDgllhy34s R360_ATsw

[Jones28]

Badenoch now coming across as a complete **** about autism as well.

She's an impressively unlikeable person, much like Braverman and Patel.

[Bostonhibby]

Badenoch now coming across as a complete **** about autism as well.

She's an impressively unlikeable person, much like Braverman and Patel.Will be marvellous to see how she actually delivers on all this knee jerk populist stuff she is saying to win not an election but popularity amongst a small group of minority right wing MP's none of whom were brave enough or credible enough to step up themselves.

If she gets over the line and reality sets in she will be hung out to dry as yet another victim of the Nasty parties internal battles which always come first.

Same will apply to Jenrick, it would be a great time to be a socialist if we had a socialist government with a big majority.

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[grunt]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3wkzgpjxvo?at_link_type=web_link&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_link_id=FCB6A522-8C93-11EF-80CD-B24F82D67990&at_medium=social&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_format=link&at_link_origin=BBCBreaking&at_campaign_type=owned


The wife of a Conservative councillor has been jailed for 31 months after calling for hotels housing asylum seekers to be set on fire.

[grunt]

But yeah, Taylor Swift tickets ...

And remember - we paid for this.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/21/james-cleverly-spent-655-a-head-on-in-flight-catering-for-one-day-trip-to-rwanda?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1729487113


The in-flight catering for James Cleverly’s one-day round trip to Rwanda last December, while he was home secretary, cost £655 a head. Cleverly spent £165,561 chartering a private jet for his 11-hour visit to Kigali to sign Rishi Sunak’s deportation deal after the supreme court’s finding that Rwanda was an “unsafe country”.

He travelled to Kigali with officials and a TV crew on 4 December and signed the new legally binding treaty alongside Rwanda’s foreign affairs minister, Vincent Biruta.

It can now be revealed that the catering for the eight-and-a-half hour return flight for Cleverly and his 14 officials cost £9,803.20, or £653.55 a head, according to a freedom of information response given to the Labour party. The TV crew paid for their own food.

[lapsedhibee]

He's not a Tory just now, but there's plenty of time till 2029.

If you can get five years for peaceful protest, what will this woman get for 'violent' protest? And what should she get? :dunno:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/21/woman-who-threw-milkshake-over-nigel-farage-admits-assault

[grunt]

He's not a Tory just now, but there's plenty of time till 2029.

If you can get five years for peaceful protest, what will this woman get for 'violent' protest? And what should she get? :dunno:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/21/woman-who-threw-milkshake-over-nigel-farage-admits-assault


two serious charges:confused:

[lapsedhibee]

:confused:

One of the two serious charges appears to be causing £17.50 worth of dry cleaning. Lock her up!

[grunt]

But the ferries ...!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr54gv99dz1o


Ministers are to take a direct role in overseeing the building of the HS2 rail line to try to "get a grip" on the rising cost of the high speed route between London and Birmingham.

Transport Secretary Louise Haigh said it had long been clear that the cost of HS2, which could reach £66bn, had been allowed to "spiral out of control".

[Stairway 2 7]

One of the two serious charges appears to be causing £17.50 worth of dry cleaning. Lock her up!

She should get treated the same as anyone else would with assault even if he is a c#££. Two MPs have been murdered by the public in recent years, they should be able to go about their lives. As an aside I just think this let him play the victim

[Stairway 2 7]

But the ferries ...!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr54gv99dz1o

Hope it goes higher since we get 10% to spend on what we want. Infrastructure projects in the UK are crippled by bureaucracy and consultations. In the UK our rail and trams projects cost 2.5 times the price of French projects. A good thread on the subject. The lower Thames Crossing's application in now 300,000 pages long and has cost £300 million and it's not even been started. Be like the French, Spanish, Norwegians and Germans just get it built

https://x.com/Sam_Dumitriu/status/1694990887439233239
Sam_Dumitriu
Is Britain getting a bad deal?
@Ben_A_Hopkinson
and I looked at 242 infrastructure projects across 14 different countries.

Our conclusion? It costs more to build new tram systems, railways, and roads in Britain than almost anywhere else in the world

Phase 1 of High Speed 2 (🇬🇧) will cost £396m per mile of track.

🇮🇹Naples-Bari Line: £74m per mile
🇫🇷Tours-Bordeaux: £46m per mile
🇯🇵Hokkiado Shinkansan: £51m per mile



An article saying similar
https://www.ft.com/content/9aa0fcc0-31fb-44be-b5a0-57ceb7fb7a52
The Nimby tax on Britain and America
Local objections and protracted reviews mean new infrastructure projects cost far more in the UK and US than elsewhere

[Ozyhibby]

But yeah, Taylor Swift tickets ...

And remember - we paid for this.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/21/james-cleverly-spent-655-a-head-on-in-flight-catering-for-one-day-trip-to-rwanda?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1729487113

The thing is we voted these guys out because of this sort of thing only to find the new guys are at it right away. Imagine how bad Starmer and his gang will be if they last 14 years?


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[Stairway 2 7]

The thing is we voted these guys out because of this sort of thing only to find the new guys are at it right away. Imagine how bad Starmer and his gang will be if they last 14 years?


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Think Steven Flynns case was worse than Starmer lobbying for a company then taking 30k from them. I think it's more a case of they are all taking bungs, which is obviously legal.

[Bostonhibby]

But the ferries ...!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr54gv99dz1oMichelle Mone Railway inc.?[emoji23][emoji23]

https://x.com/Bbmorg/status/1848391559709958396?t=LF_kSZj7yr41_NNZ8isO_g&s=08

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[grunt]

She should get treated the same as anyone else would with assault even if he is a c#££. Two MPs have been murdered by the public in recent years, they should be able to go about their lives. As an aside I just think this let him play the victim
Is that you saying that throwing a milkshake at someone is the same as murder? That's what you seem to be saying.

[grunt]

The thing is we voted these guys out because of this sort of thing only to find the new guys are at it right away. Imagine how bad Starmer and his gang will be if they last 14 years?
At what? This is about Cleverley chartering a private plane and expensing huge amounts of booze on the public tab. Where has Starmer been doing that?

[grunt]

Rules? What rules?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gabl-_KWkAAkyy1?format=png&name=small

[Bostonhibby]

Rules? What rules?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gabl-_KWkAAkyy1?format=png&name=smallShe had a penchant for sending her chum Sir John Hayes classified home office documents in breach of the rules/law so he could tell her what to do.

Helluva lot more breaches than she initially owned up to, whodathunkit.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Is that you saying that throwing a milkshake at someone is the same as murder? That's what you seem to be saying.

That's an insane take from that, I've not much to add

[grunt]

That's an insane take from that, I've not much to add


She should get treated the same as anyone else would with assault even if he is a c#££. Two MPs have been murdered by the public in recent years, they should be able to go about their lives. As an aside I just think this let him play the victim
Sure.

[Kato]

Rules? What rules?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gabl-_KWkAAkyy1?format=png&name=smallJail.

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[Bostonhibby]

Jail.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkShe really is symbolic of that whole cabinet and Bozo and the waiter's leadership.

There's rules and laws for everyone else, but we will do what we like and if we do get caught lie or deflect and minimise our misconduct.

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[grunt]

New lying Tory leader in Scotland (who?) opens his gob

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[jamie_1875]

New lying Tory leader in Scotland (who?) opens his gob

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What's the context?

We spend about £1.6BN a year on prescriptions in Scotland , something like an average of 21 prescriptions per person per year. Is he saying those that can afford to should pay or is he saying nobody should get free prescriptions?

What if by making those that can afford to pay saves £600M a year that could be diverted to other NHS services?

(And nobody should get paracetamol on prescription as they are about 40p in the shops)

[grunt]

We spend about £1.6BN a year on prescriptions in Scotland , something like an average of 21 prescriptions per person per year. Is he saying those that can afford to should pay or is he saying nobody should get free prescriptions?The former. How much would it cost to implement and operate a system where some people pay but others don't? What impact would it have on the take up of prescriptions? Suppose I can afford 21 prescriptions a year but I'm seriously ill and I need 120 prescriptions a year. How is that managed?


What if by making those that can afford to pay saves £600M a year that could be diverted to other NHS services?
What if it doesn't save £600m but instead costs more to operate than having free prescriptions?


(And nobody should get paracetamol on prescription as they are about 40p in the shops)Agreed. That's surely down to the doctors and people filling out prescriptions to make sure they don't prescribe such easily obtained medicines. Then again, what if someone can't afford even 40p for paracetamol?

[jamie_1875]

The former. How much would it cost to implement and operate a system where some people pay but others don't? What impact would it have on the take up of prescriptions? Suppose I can afford 21 prescriptions a year but I'm seriously ill and I need 120 prescriptions a year. How is that managed?

What if it doesn't save £600m but instead costs more to operate than having free prescriptions?

Agreed. That's surely down to the doctors and people filling out prescriptions to make sure they don't prescribe such easily obtained medicines. Then again, what if someone can't afford even 40p for paracetamol?

In England you can pay for an annual certificate that costs about £115 and you get all the prescriptions you need for that year, we could do something like that for those that can afford it. I am not sure how much it would cost to administer, but they seem to manage it with the winter fuel allowance. I would be surprised if people can't afford 40p? Maybe I am out of touch but are you suggesting people can't afford 40p these days?

[Just Alf]

The former. How much would it cost to implement and operate a system where some people pay but others don't? What impact would it have on the take up of prescriptions? Suppose I can afford 21 prescriptions a year but I'm seriously ill and I need 120 prescriptions a year. How is that managed?

What if it doesn't save £600m but instead costs more to operate than having free prescriptions?

Agreed. That's surely down to the doctors and people filling out prescriptions to make sure they don't prescribe such easily obtained medicines. Then again, what if someone can't afford even 40p for paracetamol?Re the paracetamol, my wife goes though 8 -10 per day.... before she had a prescription we were travelling around different places every other day as we couldn't buy enough at any one time. :-(

[jamie_1875]

Re the paracetamol, my wife goes though 8 -10 per day.... before she had a prescription we were travelling around different places every other day as we couldn't buy enough at any one time. :-(

I can see the benefits of someone who goes through that many in a day to get these on prescription, I was meaning the prescription of some low clinical value drugs on a one off basis. As you say a shop would only sell you two packets a day which is what your wife must go through.

[grunt]

In England you can pay for an annual certificate that costs about £115 and you get all the prescriptions you need for that year, we could do something like that for those that can afford it. Seems like a tax on the sick.


I am not sure how much it would cost to administer, but they seem to manage it with the winter fuel allowance.Completely different scenario and not at all comparable. WFA is a centrally administered benefit, prescriptions are filled at any one of thousands of pharmacies.


I would be surprised if people can't afford 40p? Maybe I am out of touch but are you suggesting people can't afford 40p these days?Where do you draw the line?

[Stairway 2 7]

I think it's 92% of all prescriptions in England are given out for free at the moment, due to long-term sick and over 60s getting free prescriptions. I'm not sure it's worth the effort administrating the 8% to pay?

[jamie_1875]

Seems like a tax on the sick.

Completely different scenario and not at all comparable. WFA is a centrally administered benefit, prescriptions are filled at any one of thousands of pharmacies.

Where do you draw the line?

Seems to work in dentistry in Scotland where you are exempt from charges if you are in receipt of certain benefits. Maybe it has been looked at and not deemed cost effective, but £1.6BN and rising is a big sum of money where potentially some could be diverted elsewhere if they could make it work. Here for example.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/leaked-nhs-report-damning-state-33985614

[grunt]

Seems to work in dentistry in Scotland where you are exempt from charges if you are in receipt of certain benefits. Maybe it has been looked at and not deemed cost effective, but £1.6BN and rising is a big sum of money where potentially some could be diverted elsewhere if they could make it work. Here for example.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/leaked-nhs-report-damning-state-33985614
Thanks, but I don't read the Record. It's ****.

[jamie_1875]

Thanks, but I don't read the Record. It's ****.

What do you read? The National where the story came from? Not exactly a quality publication as well.

[lapsedhibee]

I would be surprised if people can't afford 40p? Maybe I am out of touch but are you suggesting people can't afford 40p these days?

Not a statistically significant sample but at Buchanan St bus station this morning there was a queue for the disabled toilet/s (free) and no queue for the others (30p), so presumably for at least some people 30p makes a difference. (No wheelchair users in the disabled toilet queue.)

[Ozyhibby]

Not a statistically significant sample but at Buchanan St bus station this morning there was a queue for the disabled toilet/s (free) and no queue for the others (30p), so presumably for at least some people 30p makes a difference. (No wheelchair users in the disabled toilet queue.)

Not all disabilities are visible.[emoji6][emoji23]


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[lapsedhibee]

Not all disabilities are visible.[emoji6][emoji23]



I was indicating that the queuers could have, if they'd wanted, switch to the 30p option, not questioning their right to be in the queue.
(But only if they could afford the 30p, obvs.)

[grunt]

Not a statistically significant sample but at Buchanan St bus station this morning there was a queue for the disabled toilet/s (free) and no queue for the others (30p), so presumably for at least some people 30p makes a difference. (No wheelchair users in the disabled toilet queue.)
I'm old fashioned. I'm not paying 6 shillings to spend a penny.

[wookie70]

Seems like a tax on the sick.

Completely different scenario and not at all comparable. WFA is a centrally administered benefit, prescriptions are filled at any one of thousands of pharmacies.

Where do you draw the line?

I used to have one of those cards in Scotland pre SNP Government. I'm fairly sure it was managed centrally and you could use it in any pharmacy. May have been bought in a pharmacy but struggling to remember as we have been fortunate to have had free scripts for a long time now. I would have no issue paying for that service again if it was £115 a year but I think sorting tax out into a progressive system is a much better option. To do that you have to make it progressive for the ultra rich first as they pay far too small a share

[cabbageandribs1875]

she's in the right political party


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[JimBHibees]

she's in the right political party


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Quite incredible but nowadays not at all. What a cesspit politics in this country has become

[cabbageandribs1875]

Quite incredible but nowadays not at all. What a cesspit politics in this country has become


a Sunday morning news show in Nigeria gave their thoughts on her

Nels Abbey on X: "Nigeria's Sunday morning news shows were fantastically more open, honest and authoritative about the rise of Kemi Badenoch and the threat it poses than their British equivalents. Incomparably better. https://t.co/uyQaprMq29" / X (https://x.com/nelsabbey/status/1853153374893465703)

[cabbageandribs1875]

jesus wept, look who's back in the Building, they really are full-on far right now, the Tory party will very very soon be unrecognisable to the old Moderates, just like the GOP in Yank land

Double Down News on X: "BREAKING: Priti Patel made Shadow Foreign Secretary by Kemi Badenoch The same Priti Patel who was forced to resign as Home Secretary for subversively engaging under the radar with a foreign state, seeking to divert British taxpayer money to the Israeli army @georgemonbiot https://t.co/olxnkmbedS" / X (https://x.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1853499669000638948)



and crooked Jenrick as Shadow justice secretary

[Bostonhibby]

jesus wept, look who's back in the Building, they really are full-on far right now, the Tory party will very very soon be unrecognisable to the old Moderates, just like the GOP in Yank land

Double Down News on X: "BREAKING: Priti Patel made Shadow Foreign Secretary by Kemi Badenoch The same Priti Patel who was forced to resign as Home Secretary for subversively engaging under the radar with a foreign state, seeking to divert British taxpayer money to the Israeli army @georgemonbiot https://t.co/olxnkmbedS" / X (https://x.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1853499669000638948)



and crooked Jenrick as Shadow justice secretaryThey're reforming the old band, one last tour of the conservative clubs and selected tea rooms before winding the band up and joining Reform.

Bozo is coming back on drums. Guest appearance by Theresa Coffey as a big bass drum.



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[Kato]

They're reforming the old band, one last tour of the conservative clubs and selected tea rooms before winding the band up and joining Reform.

Bozo is coming back on drums. Guest appearance by Theresa Coffey as a big bass drum.



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..and Liz Truss on a tin pot..

[grunt]

I want to see senior lying Tories in jail for this. £8.6 billion literally up in smoke.

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[Northernhibee]

Watched PMQs today - Badenoch is staggeringly bad.

[Stairway 2 7]

Unsure what thread to put this but wow, the latest migration numbers are in, a net of 728,000 more people in the country for the year up to June. The big story is the revision upwards of the numbers up till June 2023, UK had a net migration of 906,000. Well over 2 million more people in 3 years and a 3% increase in the population.

That would be fantastic if housebuilding was miniscule and all services hadn't faced cuts in that time rather than expand at the same rate. Baffling that some people don't want an increase to housebuilding and energy generation.

This is why reform are on the rise. Immigration is good but if you don't cater for them services suffer, that won't be felt on Kensington but it will outside the city areas which have financial growth

[Mon Dieu4]

Unsure what thread to put this but wow, the latest migration numbers are in, a net of 728,000 more people in the country for the year up to June. The big story is the revision upwards of the numbers up till June 2023, UK had a net migration of 906,000. Well over 2 million more people in 3 years and a 3% increase in the population.

That would be fantastic if housebuilding was miniscule and all services hadn't faced cuts in that time rather than expand at the same rate. Baffling that some people don't want an increase to housebuilding and energy generation.

This is why reform are on the rise. Immigration is good but if you don't cater for them services suffer, that won't be felt on Kensington but it will outside the city areas which have financial growth

It's of no surprise to me the numbers are so high, my work has employed about 100 people on my floor in the last year or so, the overwhelmingly vast majority of people who have gotten the jobs are Indian, the jobs on offer are decent enough jobs but nothing you should need to go out the country to fill especially in Edinburgh

Get why my work have done it though, they have likely secured University Educated employees at a new starters salary

As you say immigration is good and needed in Scotland especially, but the infrastructure needs to keep pace with it which I have zero confidence in any of the parties to do

[overdrive]

It's of no surprise to me the numbers are so high, my work has employed about 100 people on my floor in the last year or so, the overwhelmingly vast majority of people who have gotten the jobs are Indian, the jobs on offer are decent enough jobs but nothing you should need to go out the country to fill especially in Edinburgh

Get why my work have done it though, they have likely secured University Educated employees at a new starters salary

As you say immigration is good and needed in Scotland especially, but the infrastructure needs to keep pace with it which I have zero confidence in any of the parties to do

Are you sure they weren't already here?

I think Edinburgh has a huge Indian immigrant population. In our section of our street, out of 17 houses you have us who are Scottish, our next door neighbours who are Chinese immigrants, their next door neighbours who are Scottish and the two houses across from them, one Scottish and one Chinese immigrants. I think the house at the end is Scottish. The rest (11 households) are Indian immigrants.

[Mon Dieu4]

Are you sure they weren't already here?

I think Edinburgh has a huge Indian immigrant population. In our section of our street, out of 17 houses you have us who are Scottish, our next door neighbours who are Chinese immigrants, their next door neighbours who are Scottish and the two houses across from them, one Scottish and one Chinese immigrants. I think the house at the end is Scottish. The rest (11 households) are Indian immigrants.

I've spoken to a few and they came specifically for the job, must have obviously had a visa sorted out beforehand or as part of it.

I have no issues with them whatsoever just seemed weird that such a high percentage of them are from one place

Being from Leith I'm used to lots of Indian people being about and have lots of pals who are 2nd or 3rd generation, but most of them have thicker Leith accents than me

[Stairway 2 7]

Are you sure they weren't already here?

I think Edinburgh has a huge Indian immigrant population. In our section of our street, out of 17 houses you have us who are Scottish, our next door neighbours who are Chinese immigrants, their next door neighbours who are Scottish and the two houses across from them, one Scottish and one Chinese immigrants. I think the house at the end is Scottish. The rest (11 households) are Indian immigrants.

250,000 of the 906,000 were from India, it's now the biggest single nation of incomers by far. 250k is roughly the population of Aberdeen for context

[cabbageandribs1875]

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another jumps ship to reform uk, after slating them in the summer she likes them now Andrea Jenkyns has joined Reform UK, says Nigel Farage (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/andrea-jenkyns-has-joined-reform-uk-says-nigel-farage/ar-AA1uVA0t?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=36f2094bcc0a454c86eb1e347fcad37e&ei=77)

[Bostonhibby]

another jumps ship to reform uk, after slating them in the summer she likes them now Andrea Jenkyns has joined Reform UK, says Nigel Farage (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/andrea-jenkyns-has-joined-reform-uk-says-nigel-farage/ar-AA1uVA0t?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=36f2094bcc0a454c86eb1e347fcad37e&ei=77)I always regarded her as an extreme right wing schemer and has simply found her level in an attempt to remain relevant amongst a like minded group?

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[Jack]

another jumps ship to reform uk, after slating them in the summer she likes them now Andrea Jenkyns has joined Reform UK, says Nigel Farage (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/andrea-jenkyns-has-joined-reform-uk-says-nigel-farage/ar-AA1uVA0t?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=36f2094bcc0a454c86eb1e347fcad37e&ei=77)

Well I've always thought she was stupid enough to join them. I don't think I've ever seen her on telly or being interviewed where it hasn't been car crash viewing. With that in mind HIGNFY got her on and removed any doubt!

[Lendo]

I’m currently seeing a girl who is an Indian IT professional that came across on a skilled worker visa. The amount of graft Indian IT contractors do for UK companies is unreal. Their employer (Tata, Cognizant, etc) have expectations that they be online 12 or 13 hours a day.

Are there UK people that could do these IT Engineering jobs? Possibly… but we don’t have the numbers needed just now to fill all the vacancies. Also hiring Indians on contracts who have the skills needed is just cheaper and more flexible for Financial Services companies.

[CropleyWasGod]

Kemi gets kneecapped

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7n1gy94evo

[Ozyhibby]

Kemi gets kneecapped

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7n1gy94evo

I watched their movie the other night. It’s pretty funny.[emoji106]


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[grunt]

Clear thinking from Lying Tory Jakey Rees-Mogg.

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[grunt]

£715m wasted on Braverman's stupid Rwanda scheme. £715 million.

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[CropleyWasGod]

£715m wasted on Braverman's stupid Rwanda scheme. £715 million.

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I wonder how many of the "deportees" went through the system a few times :greengrin

Mark Thomas does a great routine about the Rwandan government scamming us by recycling folk straight back to Britain, and being paid more than once for the same people.

[Keith_M]

250,000 of the 906,000 were from India, it's now the biggest single nation of incomers by far. 250k is roughly the population of Aberdeen for context


Was there a time what that wasn't the case? Outside of a brief spell when a large number of people came from Poland, it's been pretty much the same for the last forty (plus) years.

More recently, India made a very clever decision to encourage people to take up careers in Software Development, and that now accounts for a pretty large percentage of Indians who now move to other countries for work reasons.

People that voted for Brexit to 'stop the immigrants' must be ragin'

[grunt]

People that voted for Brexit to 'stop the immigrants' must be ragin'
They're too pig**** ignorant to know what's going on.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Farage one tiny step nearer becoming UK PM.

[Bostonhibby]

Farage one tiny step nearer becoming UK PM.I can see what you mean but you could argue that Bozo's words and deeds would suggest he was rarely well advised, or his adviser wasn't very convincing.[emoji6]

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[lapsedhibee]

I can see what you mean but you could argue that Bozo's words and deeds would suggest he was rarely well advised, or his adviser wasn't very convincing.[emoji6]


The quality of the defectors is not at issue (Lee Anderson, Andrea Jenkyns) but each defection gets plenty of media coverage and the ability of current potential Tory leaders is also not at issue (Kemi Badenoch, Robert Jenrick). Farage is still getting personal advertising on the BBC's 'flagship' current affairs programme. It's getting harder to see how Farage won't be leader of the largest right wing party quite soon.

[Bostonhibby]

The quality of the defectors is not at issue (Lee Anderson, Andrea Jenkyns) but each defection gets plenty of media coverage and the ability of current potential Tory leaders is also not at issue (Kemi Badenoch, Robert Jenrick). Farage is still getting personal advertising on the BBC's 'flagship' current affairs programme. It's getting harder to see how Farage won't be leader of the largest right wing party quite soon.I do agree with you, especially the massively disproportionate media coverage he seems to enjoy, especially from the BBC. Ironically down here in the right wing heartland the BBC is frequently labelled "woke" "lefty"etc......

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[cabbageandribs1875]

poor Boris Boris Johnson cuts short Australian book tour to return to UK citing ‘unforeseen circumstances’ | The Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/boris-johnson-australia-book-tour-melbourne-b2659160.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawG-dzNleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHW-BedQMcShJ7oFiUL68v5Sks_LbVdeohjBhrjnElc67Vx5rkJHVz NnbAw_aem_DgSBFEeY-gF2NumjMVOG6Q) :boo hoo:whit a scruffy looking tink of a man he is

[cabbageandribs1875]

Farage one tiny step nearer becoming UK PM.

George Monbiot got it spot on re the B B C and Farage

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[silverhibee]

250,000 of the 906,000 were from India, it's now the biggest single nation of incomers by far. 250k is roughly the population of Aberdeen for context

I think a lot of them are moving in to the house next door to me, it gets that busy that they stand outside to blether, very annoying.

[Paul1642]

Farage one tiny step nearer becoming UK PM.

I think the only thing keeping most Tory voters from voting Reform instead is the impression that Tory’s can win the election and Reform can’t. If reform ever get themselves to a stage where that’s not the case then I think the Tory vote collapses in favour of Reform and they just could win an election.

[grunt]

I think the only thing keeping most Tory voters from voting Reform instead is the impression that Tory’s can win the election and Reform can’t. If reform ever get themselves to a stage where that’s not the case then I think the Tory vote collapses in favour of Reform and they just could win an election.I somehow doubt that any sentient Tory (I know, this is a stretch) thinks that Badenoch has any chance at all of winning an election.

[Stairway 2 7]

Notice the tories are trying to force a vote on the free travel scheme for asylum seekers in Scotland. This is exactly the kind of playing up to Reform nonsense I can see being ramped up before 2026.

[Bostonhibby]

poor Boris Boris Johnson cuts short Australian book tour to return to UK citing ‘unforeseen circumstances’ | The Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/boris-johnson-australia-book-tour-melbourne-b2659160.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawG-dzNleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHW-BedQMcShJ7oFiUL68v5Sks_LbVdeohjBhrjnElc67Vx5rkJHVz NnbAw_aem_DgSBFEeY-gF2NumjMVOG6Q) :boo hoo:whit a scruffy looking tink of a man he isNo one interested in whatever tale he's currently peddling as his book heads towards the bin ends?

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[grunt]

No one interested in whatever tale he's currently peddling as his book heads towards the bin ends?
Saw this in WH Smith at Waverley station

28355

[Bostonhibby]

Saw this in WH Smith at Waverley station

28355Race to the bottom of the bin with Dim lizzy

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[cabbageandribs1875]

lots of giggles..




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[Bostonhibby]

lots of giggles..




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[grunt]

This is what the lying Tories have become ...

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[Bostonhibby]

This is what the lying Tories have become ...

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:le3snqzui22uenjjk7v4btfb/bafkreibpp7cr3hrwr76cw65h5crdrphbrgclunntmxzgbl6sp uo534hbl4@jpegIf only he had been in a position to somehow influence whatever scare story he is going to churn out in an attempt to remain relevant and win the popularity race to the bottom within the Nasty Party and the right wing beyond.

It's almost as if he was never a minister, MP and member of the party in power for over a decade and when the Jay report was delivered in 2022.

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[McD]

If only he had been in a position to somehow influence whatever scare story he is going to churn out in an attempt to remain relevant and win the popularity race to the bottom within the Nasty Party and the right wing beyond.

It's almost as if he was never a minister, MP and member of the party in power for over a decade and when the Jay report was delivered in 2022.

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He says the officials who have covered this up should be jailed - presumably that would include the previous government who were in power for 14 years, a government that included him :confused:

[Bostonhibby]

He says the officials who have covered this up should be jailed - presumably that would include the previous government who were in power for 14 years, a government that included him :confused:It's probably not the likes of us he is hoping to impress[emoji6]

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[JimBHibees]

This is what the lying Tories have become ...

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Incredible

[Bostonhibby]

Good to hear Jenrick attempting to bluster his way through an interview with Nick Robinson last night.

Couldn't or wouldn't answer why it was that on a basic search of Hansard - based on the words grooming and Jenrick - Robinson couldn't find any questions, statements or even sentences on the subject that he had ever raised on the subject whilst he was in parliament.

Given his apparent concerns it's a surprise, or has he just been late in getting on the bandwagon and found out again?

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[Jack]

PM Questions.

While many social media sites are saying look at Kemi Badenochs face as SKS rips her a new one I'd suggest you also check out those sitting next to her. Priceless.

[Kato]

PM Questions.

While many social media sites are saying look at Kemi Badenochs face as SKS rips her a new one I'd suggest you also check out those sitting next to her. Priceless.Must be being told to pick up on Elons vibes. Or think X is the real world.

Their every essence as a party is to wreck everything to do with public money.

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[Northernhibee]

PM Questions.

While many social media sites are saying look at Kemi Badenochs face as SKS rips her a new one I'd suggest you also check out those sitting next to her. Priceless.

Today was a new low in terms of PMQs.

A figure from outside the UK subverting our democracy, and talking about liberation of our democratically elected government. Lies being spread that have put an elected member of parliament in danger, and uses the victims of sexual abuse (and child victims at that) to try and push a point.

Two parties unable to do the right thing and stand up against it.

Absolutely ****ing shameful.

[Ozyhibby]

Today was a new low in terms of PMQs.

A figure from outside the UK subverting our democracy, and talking about liberation of our democratically elected government. Lies being spread that have put an elected member of parliament in danger, and uses the victims of sexual abuse (and child victims at that) to try and push a point.

Two parties unable to do the right thing and stand up against it.

Absolutely ****ing shameful.

Labour seem happy to just let it all happen. They’ll regret that. They bare no responsibility for any of this but in the minds of many voters they are now linked with rape gangs. If they don’t regulate social media soon then this will get a lot worse for them. No lie will be too much.


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[Northernhibee]

Labour seem happy to just let it all happen. They’ll regret that. They bare no responsibility for any of this but in the minds of many voters they are now linked with rape gangs. If they don’t regulate social media soon then this will get a lot worse for them. No lie will be too much.


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I disagree, Starmer came across as dignified today and his speech the other day denouncing those who use victims of sexual abuse for their own personal vendetta.

The fact Stephen Flynn commended him today - someone who clearly doesn't agree with much Starmer has to say - speaks volumes.

The issue is I have no idea how you counteract what's been happening. There are chunks of people for whom the truth will never matter - but I still think that putting forward the truth in a dignified manner is probably the best course of action.

If you start banning Twitter or giving too much oxygen to the likes of them, you create martyrs.

Scary times for democracy.

[Ozyhibby]

I disagree, Starmer came across as dignified today and his speech the other day denouncing those who use victims of sexual abuse for their own personal vendetta.

The fact Stephen Flynn commended him today - someone who clearly doesn't agree with much Starmer has to say - speaks volumes.

The issue is I have no idea how you counteract what's been happening. There are chunks of people for whom the truth will never matter - but I still think that putting forward the truth in a dignified manner is probably the best course of action.

If you start banning Twitter or giving too much oxygen to the likes of them, you create martyrs.

Scary times for democracy.

You don’t need to ban it, just withdraw from it. He should immediately remove all UK govt agencies from it and put them on other sites. They should also make social media sites responsible for what is posted. He is leader of a G7 country so has significant power to regulate the social media in this country.
I’m not sure dignified wagging the finger cuts it here. Didn’t work for the democrats in the US.


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[Northernhibee]

You don’t need to ban it, just withdraw from it. He should immediately remove all UK govt agencies from it and put them on other sites. They should also make social media sites responsible for what is posted. He is leader of a G7 country so has significant power to regulate the social media in this country.
I’m not sure dignified wagging the finger cuts it here. Didn’t work for the democrats in the US.


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The problem is the democrats were dignified, but unfortunately they’re hopeless at running an election campaign. Rich celebrities telling people to vote for someone doesn’t make up for a total lack of policy or pathway to making peoples lives better.

[Smartie]

The problem is the democrats were dignified, but unfortunately they’re hopeless at running an election campaign. Rich celebrities telling people to vote for someone doesn’t make up for a total lack of policy or pathway to making peoples lives better.

I’ve simply lost faith in the human race around the world.

If they’re going to continue to make such appalling choices, they’re going to have to endure the suffering those choices inevitably lead to until they learn to choose better.

If they still remain allowed to choose, that is.

[lapsedhibee]

The problem is the democrats were dignified, but unfortunately they’re hopeless at running an election campaign. Rich celebrities telling people to vote for someone doesn’t make up for a total lack of policy or pathway to making peoples lives better.

The winner didn't really have any policy or pathway to making peoples lives better either though, did he? :dunno: What he certainly had was an effective four word slogan, Make America Great Again, and the lie, repeated over and over, that his opponents were ruining America. Just seems like the majority bought it.

[Stairway 2 7]

The winner didn't really have any policy or pathway to making peoples lives better either though, did he? :dunno: What he certainly had was an effective four word slogan, Make America Great Again, and the lie, repeated over and over, that his opponents were ruining America. Just seems like the majority bought it.

Biden got beat because he was the incumbent. As said before on here for the first time since a record of this began over 100 years ago every incumbent in a nation parlgov tracks losts heavily compared to their previous election. When I said it a few months ago I said bet your house on Trudaeu and Scholz falling next as incumbents, one down one almost.

Mass inflation has destroyed all incumbents vote share. No party from any nation could say vote for us again when people have lived through he'll with them. People were better of financially from the beginning to the end of trumps reign due to wages rising above inflation his whole term. Under Biden wages were bellow inflation every month of his term so people were poorer. Prices went through the roof for food, petrol and heating bills. It wasn't his fault as the whole world saw post pandemic huge inflation but that's not an easy sell

[Northernhibee]

The winner didn't really have any policy or pathway to making peoples lives better either though, did he? :dunno: What he certainly had was an effective four word slogan, Make America Great Again, and the lie, repeated over and over, that his opponents were ruining America. Just seems like the majority bought it.

Trump said he’d essentially make people’s pay packets go further. Which is, even if proven to be bollocks once you even remotely scratch the surface, still a message that appeals to voters.


The democrats campaign seemed to be “look at these multi millionaires”.

[jamie_1875]

You don’t need to ban it, just withdraw from it. He should immediately remove all UK govt agencies from it and put them on other sites. They should also make social media sites responsible for what is posted. He is leader of a G7 country so has significant power to regulate the social media in this country.
I’m not sure dignified wagging the finger cuts it here. Didn’t work for the democrats in the US.


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The Tories introduced the online safety bill that does make the social media companies responsible. But this is political, you object but your next door neighbor may be in agreement with everything Musk is saying, we still have free speech.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/liz-truss-keir-starmer-legal-letter-b2676352.html

Politics is going mental these days.


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[Kato]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/liz-truss-keir-starmer-legal-letter-b2676352.html

Politics is going mental these days.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWell she's got the backing of the Institute of Economic Affairs in backing the damage to her "reputation", so there.

I always thought her reputation was that of someone who did nothing other than fly round the world at our expense in luxurious circumstances achieving the square root of nowt. Until she and her think tank pals crashed the economy to the benefit of those stacking bets against it.

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[JimBHibees]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/liz-truss-keir-starmer-legal-letter-b2676352.html

Politics is going mental these days.


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Wow the world has gone mad

[grunt]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/liz-truss-keir-starmer-legal-letter-b2676352.html

Politics is going mental these days.

https://davidallengreen.com/2025/01/a-close-look-at-trusss-legal-threat-to-starmer-a-glorious-but-seemingly-hopeless-cease-and-desist-letter/

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[Bostonhibby]

Well she's got the backing of the Institute of Economic Affairs in backing the damage to her "reputation", so there.

I always thought her reputation was that of someone who did nothing other than fly round the world at our expense in luxurious circumstances achieving the square root of nowt. Until she and her think tank pals crashed the economy to the benefit of those stacking bets against it.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkHer "reputation"?

She certainly has and had one, from cheesegate to geographygate before the Nasty Raving Looney party thought she could be a leader and just when a bigger comedy seemed unlikely her and Kwakers actually managed to crash the economy.

Admittedly Kwakers might have known what he was up to since his donor and former employer did make rather a lot of money from said crash.

Crashing the economy certainly seemed to have happened at a very specific time as a result of very specific decisions made by very specific people.

She could always have decided not to resign and stayed around long enough to preside over a booming successful economy[emoji23][emoji23]

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[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/the-idf-should-be-nominated-for-the-nobel-peace-prize-xmppkld8

Michael gove, idf should get the Nobel peace prize!!!!!!!

What universe is he in?

[Jack]

https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/the-idf-should-be-nominated-for-the-nobel-peace-prize-xmppkld8

Michael gove, idf should get the Nobel peace prize!!!!!!!

What universe is he in?

Och aye, the Coke o the North! I'd forgotten about him.

Still sniffing around obviously.

[Stairway 2 7]

Och aye, the Coke o the North! I'd forgotten about him.

Still sniffing around obviously.

Trauma from getting battered by Don's casuals or being bottom of a fivesome
https://x.com/Stoviesplz/status/810682800638742528

[cabbageandribs1875]

form a queue, Subscribe to The Spectator for 12 weeks for just £1 a week and receive a free copy of Unleashed by Boris Johnson, worth £30

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[Jack]

Come on good people of hibs.net get your tiny violins out!

https://www.thepoke.com/2025/01/17/an-ex-tory-mp-says-he-cant-get-a-job-and-only-earned-575-since-the-election-18-responses-playing-the-worlds-tiniest-violin/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=pic&utm_campaign=facebookpic&fbclid=IwY2xjawH3Z4pleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHTnkgDCWfIDMg RjltVzLc9lrBozKudsbGVgThLe_fy9cPYPOumU8dUG1jA_aem_ kb4ds7RfV0zDm411Pud4Uw

[Colr]

I see gilt yields are back down again.

Kemi Badenough totally shat the bed over a blip. What an uppity little twit she is.

[Northernhibee]

I see gilt yields are back down again.

Kemi Badenough totally shat the bed over a blip. What an uppity little twit she is.

She has no political nous whatsoever.

[Bostonhibby]

She has no political nous whatsoever.The face of the Nasties, few are more capable. Hope she makes the next election but sadly fear that she is even more flexible in her beliefs than Bozo and just blows in the wind of populism, lurching from one statement to the other.

Natural home will be coat tailing Nastier Nige .

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[grunt]

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[Colr]

Labour seem happy to just let it all happen. They’ll regret that. They bare no responsibility for any of this but in the minds of many voters they are now linked with rape gangs. If they don’t regulate social media soon then this will get a lot worse for them. No lie will be too much.


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I’m afraid Labour are perennially guilty of fighting the previous battle instead of the one in front of them.

I was at a pre-election meeting where they proudly talked through their strategy for Facebook referencing its use in the Brexit vote. Someone asked why they were focused on Facebook when the right had moved on to Tiktok and other media. No answer!

Facebook’s for your granny, as one young person told me.

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There's definitely a joke in there, but this is a family friendly forum. 😉

[JimBHibees]

There's definitely a joke in there, but this is a family friendly forum. 😉

Definitely is 😁

[cabbageandribs1875]

Former Scottish Tory branch treasurer involved in £1m VAT fraud | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/24933861.ex-conservative-party-branch-treasurer-involved-1-m-vat-fraud/?fbclid=IwY2xjawIbA3RleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHTqyYIJ1WkfQ 6fcXYKY2BJJKFLdynckeCQQL_NCKFdn3bbbpPKjvJw4_jg_aem _h2hjwMFDfoo19AItW6-rJA)

[Bostonhibby]

Former Scottish Tory branch treasurer involved in £1m VAT fraud | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/24933861.ex-conservative-party-branch-treasurer-involved-1-m-vat-fraud/?fbclid=IwY2xjawIbA3RleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHTqyYIJ1WkfQ 6fcXYKY2BJJKFLdynckeCQQL_NCKFdn3bbbpPKjvJw4_jg_aem _h2hjwMFDfoo19AItW6-rJA)It's in their DNA.

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[Ozyhibby]

Former Scottish Tory branch treasurer involved in £1m VAT fraud | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/24933861.ex-conservative-party-branch-treasurer-involved-1-m-vat-fraud/?fbclid=IwY2xjawIbA3RleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHTqyYIJ1WkfQ 6fcXYKY2BJJKFLdynckeCQQL_NCKFdn3bbbpPKjvJw4_jg_aem _h2hjwMFDfoo19AItW6-rJA)

Interesting that he gets a pass on obvious fraud and theft compared with operation branchform?


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[grunt]

Former Scottish Tory branch treasurer involved in £1m VAT fraud | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/24933861.ex-conservative-party-branch-treasurer-involved-1-m-vat-fraud/?fbclid=IwY2xjawIbA3RleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHTqyYIJ1WkfQ 6fcXYKY2BJJKFLdynckeCQQL_NCKFdn3bbbpPKjvJw4_jg_aem _h2hjwMFDfoo19AItW6-rJA)
Blue tents? Doorstepping? Endless recurring items on the BBC Scotland News and Daily Record? Dozens of polis taking away teabags?

Course not.

[weecounty hibby]

Interesting that he actually used the local tory party to launder the money. Surely that was signed off by auditors etc? Does misuse of party funds (alleged in another High profile case but absolutely done in this case) not demand blue tents, the Met involved, high profile reporters following him about, personal effects removed with TV cameras about, tea bags seized etc etc.

[cabbageandribs1875]

oh gawd, "frack, baby,frack"

does she have a yank accent now



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[cabbageandribs1875]

Blue tents? Doorstepping? Endless recurring items on the BBC Scotland News and Daily Record? Dozens of polis taking away teabags?

Course not.


and gets away with it :rolleyes: Ex Tory branch treasurer will face no further action for £1m VAT fraud | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/25014507.ex-tory-branch-treasurer-will-face-no-action-1m-vat-fraud/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJGM1xleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHbaITvxcqGov 53WI3ttolA3U_p8YZNIKRoNT2G0p-ssrUgFS1VFhyZpdrQ_aem_lIwHkIslVhw94efDQwolbw)

[Jones28]

oh gawd, "frack, baby,frack"

does she have a yank accent now



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Madness indeed, using the Trump playbook to cling on to relevance.

The reason we have such ridiculous energy prices is because we are tied to energy production from gas. Change the system of pricing, not the system of production and our bills will be less. We're the only country in Europe that does this.

[grunt]

and gets away with it :rolleyes: Ex Tory branch treasurer will face no further action for £1m VAT fraud | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/25014507.ex-tory-branch-treasurer-will-face-no-action-1m-vat-fraud/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJGM1xleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHbaITvxcqGov 53WI3ttolA3U_p8YZNIKRoNT2G0p-ssrUgFS1VFhyZpdrQ_aem_lIwHkIslVhw94efDQwolbw)
Aren't they even going to bother to recover the money?

[DaveF]

Aren't they even going to bother to recover the money?

I can't understand why HMRC are not going after this guy? They were determined enoughy to pursue me for a few £££ when I was paid child benefit in error a few years back.

Him and his accomplices just get off with it?

[Ozyhibby]

Madness indeed, using the Trump playbook to cling on to relevance.

The reason we have such ridiculous energy prices is because we are tied to energy production from gas. Change the system of pricing, not the system of production and our bills will be less. We're the only country in Europe that does this.

While those energy prices remain high then why wouldn’t she do it? It’s a smart play. Labour aren’t going to fix it, they’ve been bought by the energy companies. They’ll no doubt start talking up GB energy again for Scottish elections and we’ll all fall for it again. But until the UK public stop paying 3 and 4 times what other euro countries are paying for energy then it’s wide open for a populist.
In the 9 months since Labour got elected, is there one single thing you could say they have done that will bring energy prices down?


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[CropleyWasGod]

Aren't they even going to bother to recover the money?

Now that guilt has been established, he can be chased under Proceeds of Crime legislation.

HMRC might also take him to Court, although I'm not sure who has preference.

[Jones28]

While those energy prices remain high then why wouldn’t she do it? It’s a smart play. Labour aren’t going to fix it, they’ve been bought by the energy companies. They’ll no doubt start talking up GB energy again for Scottish elections and we’ll all fall for it again. But until the UK public stop paying 3 and 4 times what other euro countries are paying for energy then it’s wide open for a populist.
In the 9 months since Labour got elected, is there one single thing you could say they have done that will bring energy prices down?


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I just read an article that said it could take 20 years to fully implement GB Energy, so no I don't believe they have.

Still doesn't stop me from feeling she's playing pathetic, populist politics.

If we start fracking will the gas price come down? I don't think it will. It will stay high through some mechanism or other and energy companies will continue their profiteering practices.