Tories are still lying *******s

[cabbageandribs1875]

ain't that true :agree:

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/281469839_10219292260954053_818365378863344332_n.j pg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=M7Mg1XFZ4PQAX8PvZxo&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT_FXdNtk4iiXKhqBIgy0qTNV1jH0vGEVcjdYJlebsfq lA&oe=6292DA5A

[Just Alf]

ain't that true :agree:

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/281469839_10219292260954053_818365378863344332_n.j pg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=M7Mg1XFZ4PQAX8PvZxo&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT_FXdNtk4iiXKhqBIgy0qTNV1jH0vGEVcjdYJlebsfq lA&oe=6292DA5AHe's quite correct, we clearly can't rely on his party to do what's best for the country rather than the party!

[Bostonhibby]

Aaaaand there it is:

Energy bill support of £10bn set to be unveiled
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61584546

He'll borrow it now and the plebs will repay it through tax hikes later, meanwhile those impoverished energy suppliers shareholders will trouser an even bigger windfall.

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[Col2]

Johnson is now safe.

It was down to his fellow MPs to show some balls and vote him out.

But for the vast majority they put personal interest above doing the right thing for the country. They are almost as bad.

He will be here until general election now.

[hibsbollah]

He'll borrow it now and the plebs will repay it through tax hikes later, meanwhile those impoverished energy suppliers shareholders will trouser an even bigger windfall.

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Bears repeating in France, where they have capped fuel prices, the average gas price increase? 4%. U.K. average? 127%. Electricity? They capped EDFs profits 6 months ago. That’s why the French don’t have widespread food bank use.

https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/jan/14/france-edf-cap-household-energy-bills

[hibsbollah]

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1480971591135735811?s=20&t=HUcCUNckfuFg0WctUdESxQ

[stokesmessiah]

Johnson is now safe.

It was down to his fellow MPs to show some balls and vote him out.

But for the vast majority they put personal interest above doing the right thing for the country. They are almost as bad.

He will be here until general election now.

He is safe for now without doubt. I cannot imagine them going into another GE with him in charge though.

[Jack]

Bears repeating in France, where they have capped fuel prices, the average gas price increase? 4%. U.K. average? 127%. Electricity? They capped EDFs profits 6 months ago. That’s why the French don’t have widespread food bank use.

https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/jan/14/france-edf-cap-household-energy-bills

EDF provide electricity to 600,000 homes in the UK. The French will be using their profits from the UK to subsidise their French operations.

[Bostonhibby]

Bears repeating in France, where they have capped fuel prices, the average gas price increase? 4%. U.K. average? 127%. Electricity? They capped EDFs profits 6 months ago. That’s why the French don’t have widespread food bank use.

https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/jan/14/france-edf-cap-household-energy-billsHave family in France, ordinary working people, they're dealing with nothing like the issues on fuel and cost of living that similar people in UK are.

I put this to my Tory loyalist friend who without hesitation retorted that it is because they will be throwing EU and French tax payers money at it to paper over the cracks.

We on the other hand are throwing UK tax payers money, plus money from god knows where at this, plus dodgy PPE contracts and all we have to show for it is world beating inflation, rising poverty and wages failing to keep pace.

At least we know it's our own government that has taken back control of all this.

Huzzah, Bozo's at the wheel.

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[hibsbollah]

EDF provide electricity to 600,000 homes in the UK. The French will be using their profits from the UK to subsidise their French operations.

That sounds very plausible. So the French state operator, essentially an arm of the French state, is using money from millions of impoverished 'Brits' and using it to reduce French people's bills? Thats the power you can wield when you have state assets. But of course, there is 'No Alternative' to unfettered free market capitalism :aok:

[lapsedhibee]

The French will be using their profits from the UK to subsidise their French operations.

The rats. But how much worse it would be if we didn't hold all the cards.

[Bostonhibby]

That sounds very plausible. So the French state operator, essentially an arm of the French state, is using money from millions of impoverished 'Brits' and using it to reduce French people's bills? Thats the power you can wield when you have state assets. But of course, there is 'No Alternative' to unfettered free market capitalism :aok:We really need Matt Hancock's pub landlord to get his hands on a couple of second hand diesel generators and sell them to a grateful nation for £23bn.

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[hibsbollah]

Sunak announces the windfall tax which everyone has been calling for since the Spring. To be fair it’s a generous package of measures at first glance, the problem is the damage has already been done during the months of inaction first half of the year. The supply problems predate Ukraine, he’s hoping that folk forget that and blame Putin for food banks instead of Tory policy.

[Willis1875]

Sunak announces the windfall tax which everyone has been calling for since the Spring. To be fair it’s a generous package of measures at first glance, the problem is the damage has already been done during the months of inaction first half of the year. The supply problems predate Ukraine, he’s hoping that folk forget that and blame Putin for food banks instead of Tory policy.

Is the £200 ‘loan’ which has now been changed to a £400 grant available to all households?

[stu in nottingham]

Is the £200 ‘loan’ which has now been changed to a £400 grant available to all households?

It's been said that at least £400 will be given to 'every houshold'.

[Lendo]

I wonder how much of this windfall tax the Tories can steal and distribute out to their mates.

[Bostonhibby]

It's been said that at least £400 will be given to 'every houshold'.Surely "every power" cartel?

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[Ozyhibby]

I wonder how much of this windfall tax the Tories can steal and distribute out to their mates.

There won’t be much raised. They’ve really just given the oil companies a massive subsidy to drill for more oil and gas. We must be the only country in the world that subsidises oil exploration.


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[grunt]

There won’t be much raised. They’ve really just given the oil companies a massive subsidy to drill for more oil and gas. We must be the only country in the world that subsidises oil exploration.
And no subsidy for investment in renewables. It's as if COP26 never happened.

[Moulin Yarns]

There won’t be much raised. They’ve really just given the oil companies a massive subsidy to drill for more oil and gas. We must be the only country in the world that subsidises oil exploration.


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They also get more money to decommission than they pay in tax. Rishi also said that they will get development funds.

[Bostonhibby]

And no subsidy for investment in renewables. It's as if COP26 never happened.It's almost as if Bozo has gone back on his word.

Some call it lying, many call it "focussing" on something else, usually momentarily, usually government ministers.

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[hibsbollah]

Is the £200 ‘loan’ which has now been changed to a £400 grant available to all households?

It seems to be so, yes. Through the benefits system would be great but probably unlikely. Very strange that the Tories whipped their MPs to vote against this very policy last week, it’s almost as if a distraction had become necessary this week.

[Torto7]

Scrounging Jocks to the rescue again. Strange the Beeb was adamant North Sea Oil would have ran out by now.

[Ozyhibby]

Scrounging Jocks to the rescue again. Strange the Beeb was adamant North Sea Oil would have ran out by now.

I doubt very much tax will come from the oil companies. This is all going to be borrowed money.


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[Keith_M]

Immoral, corrupt and shameless, yet so many people....including some who post on here... happily vote for them as they feel it's 'in their interests'.


:rolleyes:

[Jones28]

Immoral, corrupt and shameless, yet so many people....including some who post on here... happily vote for them as they feel it's 'in their interests'.


:rolleyes:

Well to be fair, it is in your interests if you’re a ****.

[Northernhibee]

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/emily-thornberry-suella-braverman-commons-clash-northern-ireland_uk_628f6da2e4b05cfc2696d1e1?rp2

Hideous behaviour from Suella Braverman

[cabbageandribs1875]

******g Tories, yet another one.


Tory who sent "buttery and creamy" teenage girls tweet resigns (yahoo.com) (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tory-sent-buttery-creamy-girls-083415049.html)

THE Conservative local deputy-chair who posted a tweet saying 16-year-old girls smell "buttery and creamy" has resigned from the party.
This weekend, a post on the Twitter account now confirmed to be of Jonty Campbell, who has stood for election in Preston on a number of occasions, was spotted online.

[ronaldo7]

Edinburgh airport shambles yesterday. Border force couldn't run a bath.

3 planes coming in at the same time, and they can't cope. Electronic passport machines out of order, or not reading, causing vast queues, and time waiting exceeding an hour, only to find we're still waiting on our bags 2 hours after landing, due to limited numbers of baggage handlers and buggies to get the bags from the planes to the reclaim area.

I recall the CEO at Edinburgh airport screaming that he wanted his passengers back during the reopening after covid. Maybe if he'd got his act together during the downtime, and put more effort into getting his systems right, rather than plastering the arrivals hall with posters about how Great Britain is, visitors to the country wouldn't think they'd just landed in a backwater.

Rant over.

[Lendo]

Edinburgh airport shambles yesterday. Border force couldn't run a bath.

3 planes coming in at the same time, and they can't cope. Electronic passport machines out of order, or not reading, causing vast queues, and time waiting exceeding an hour, only to find we're still waiting on our bags 2 hours after landing, due to limited numbers of baggage handlers and buggies to get the bags from the planes to the reclaim area.

I recall the CEO at Edinburgh airport screaming that he wanted his passengers back during the reopening after covid. Maybe if he'd got his act together during the downtime, and put more effort into getting his systems right, rather than plastering the arrivals hall with posters about how Great Britain is, visitors to the country wouldn't think they'd just landed in a backwater.

Rant over.

Sadly it’s not just Edinburgh, ever UK airport seems to be the same. I flew back from the Caymans a few months ago in to Heathrow. Had to queue for 2 hours to check-in for my Edinburgh flight and when I did get back home I found out my luggage was never loaded on to the plane. Got home on the Saturday and my luggage was finally delivered back to my flat on the Tuesday.

Guess we are seeing the results of cancelling thousands of zero-hour contracts and not being able to re-recruit the staff back.

[grunt]

https://twitter.com/RealPaulLewis/status/1529938669028753444?s=20&t=MTPJ-UWzHNfsmxymxExzzQ

Nadine Dorries, for your enlightenment.

[SHODAN]

Second home owners will get the energy rebate for each home they have.

Every chance they can get with these ****ers.

[Kato]

https://twitter.com/RealPaulLewis/status/1529938669028753444?s=20&t=MTPJ-UWzHNfsmxymxExzzQ

Nadine Dorries, for your enlightenment.It doesn't count unless she's wearing a baseball cap back to front.

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[CropleyWasGod]

https://twitter.com/RealPaulLewis/status/1529938669028753444?s=20&t=MTPJ-UWzHNfsmxymxExzzQ

Nadine Dorries, for your enlightenment.

Just say no.

[hibsbollah]

https://twitter.com/RealPaulLewis/status/1529938669028753444?s=20&t=MTPJ-UWzHNfsmxymxExzzQ

Nadine Dorries, for your enlightenment.

:faf:
I shouldn’t laugh really. I like satire, and I think that video has killed it forever.

[Stairway 2 7]

Edinburgh airport shambles yesterday. Border force couldn't run a bath.

3 planes coming in at the same time, and they can't cope. Electronic passport machines out of order, or not reading, causing vast queues, and time waiting exceeding an hour, only to find we're still waiting on our bags 2 hours after landing, due to limited numbers of baggage handlers and buggies to get the bags from the planes to the reclaim area.

I recall the CEO at Edinburgh airport screaming that he wanted his passengers back during the reopening after covid. Maybe if he'd got his act together during the downtime, and put more effort into getting his systems right, rather than plastering the arrivals hall with posters about how Great Britain is, visitors to the country wouldn't think they'd just landed in a backwater.

Rant over.

Been to 8 airports in Europe and US in the last few months and Edinburgh is one of the better ones just now, certainly for passing security.

Also every nation I've been are toiling with staff shortages, not sure if covid knock on or what. Signs in all the restaurants and hotels apologising for staff shortages. The US airports the worst Vietnam and Thailand last year had far more modern airports

[Kato]

https://twitter.com/MarinaPurkiss/status/1530182467746992129?t=_ZFhu4E7Xq4nWw2fPZgAbQ&s=19

Trickanomics

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[grunt]

So when he said it wouldn't happen again, he meant that he'd change the rules so that it would no longer be a problem for him when he does it again. Anyone who thinks Johnson is good for the country needs to take a long look at what he's doing.


Boris Johnson has watered down the ministerial code - allowing ministers to break the rules without resigning - and blocked a bid to give his ethics advisor the power to investigate him…

https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1530174807316348928?s=20&t=77WV98AEmfXjWR5TMMP9gA

[Moulin Yarns]

https://news.sky.com/story/paul-holmes-tory-mp-quits-as-home-office-aide-over-partygate-scandal-12622491


I found a Tory with a moral compass.

[ronaldo7]

So when he said it wouldn't happen again, he meant that he'd change the rules so that it would no longer be a problem for him when he does it again. Anyone who thinks Johnson is good for the country needs to take a long look at what he's doing.


https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1530174807316348928?s=20&t=77WV98AEmfXjWR5TMMP9gA

He's so sorry, humbled even, that he's decided to re write the rules to enable him to do it again, and again, and again.


Mhairi black was spot on.

[lapsedhibee]

So when he said it wouldn't happen again, he meant that he'd change the rules so that it would no longer be a problem for him when he does it again. Anyone who thinks Johnson is good for the country needs to take a long look at what he's doing.



https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1530174807316348928?s=20&t=77WV98AEmfXjWR5TMMP9gA

So when the Parliamentary investigation finds that he lied to the HoC, Johnson can now say So What? Completely normal country.

[James310]

So when the Parliamentary investigation finds that he lied to the HoC, Johnson can now say So What? Completely normal country.

Erm isn't that exactly what happened in Scotland?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/18/nicola-sturgeon-misled-scottish-parliament-alex-salmond-inquiry-committee-finds

[Stairway 2 7]

So when he said it wouldn't happen again, he meant that he'd change the rules so that it would no longer be a problem for him when he does it again. Anyone who thinks Johnson is good for the country needs to take a long look at what he's doing.



https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1530174807316348928?s=20&t=77WV98AEmfXjWR5TMMP9gA

How does the government have the power to do this though. Shouldn't it be like a cross party panel. Actually unbelievable

[grunt]

How does the government have the power to do this though. Shouldn't it be like a cross party panel. Actually unbelievable
I think it has to do with the Henry VIII legislation that was introduced during COVID where large numbers of powers were transferred from Parliament to the Government. But I could be wrong.

Here's an interesting snippet on the changes to the Ministerial Code. Look at what has been removed:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTxcHRjX0AEn2Wp?format=jpg&name=900x900

[lapsedhibee]

Erm is that exactly what happened in Scotland?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/18/nicola-sturgeon-misled-scottish-parliament-alex-salmond-inquiry-committee-finds

Erm no. I was talking about Johnson being found to have lied to Parliament, and the link you've given makes it clear that Sturgeon was found not to have deliberately misled the Scottish Parliament.

[James310]

Erm no. I was talking about Johnson being found to have lied to Parliament, and the link you've given makes it clear that Sturgeon was found not to have deliberately misled the Scottish Parliament.

Yes, you are correct. It is different.

[ronaldo7]

Erm isn't that exactly what happened in Scotland?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/18/nicola-sturgeon-misled-scottish-parliament-alex-salmond-inquiry-committee-finds

Theirs that word, knowingly, again.

[Stairway 2 7]

I think it has to do with the Henry VIII legislation that was introduced during COVID where large numbers of powers were transferred from Parliament to the Government. But I could be wrong.

Here's an interesting snippet on the changes to the Ministerial Code. Look at what has been removed:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTxcHRjX0AEn2Wp?format=jpg&name=900x900

Just a guide now 😆 thank god doctors don't take Hippocratic Oath as just a wee guide

[Keith_M]

https://news.sky.com/story/paul-holmes-tory-mp-quits-as-home-office-aide-over-partygate-scandal-12622491


I found a Tory with a moral compass.



:faint:

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/05/27/economically-left-wing-government-had-since-1970s/

No going to pay for subscription for the horrible paper. But noticed the headline was similar to what I was saying earlier, about old school tories not happy with bailouts when it's to the public.


"This is the most economically Left-wing government we've had since the 1970s"

[Hibernia&Alba]

I'm going to give them credit for the help with winter fuel bills. Yes, it's a cynical U-Turn designed to take the heat off of Bozo, but it's welcome nonetheless. What matters is that millions of families will receive much needed help. If Boris wasn't such an incompetent liar, it wouldn't have happened, so well done Bozo. :greengrin

[Jack]

I'm going to give them credit for the help with winter fuel bills. Yes, it's a cynical U-Turn designed to take the heat off of Bozo, but it's welcome nonetheless. What matters is that millions of families will receive much needed help. If Boris wasn't such an incompetent liar, it wouldn't have happened, so well done Bozo. :greengrin

I refer the honorable member to the post earlier in this thread.


https://twitter.com/MarinaPurkiss/status/1530182467746992129?t=_ZFhu4E7Xq4nWw2fPZgAbQ&s=19

Trickanomics

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[Hibernia&Alba]

I refer the honorable member to the post earlier in this thread.

Certainly a valid point for those on Universal Credit, agreed, and it was outrageous to remove the £20 uplift from those people. However, many of the households getting the winter fuel help aren't on UC; many are the working poor and it will be a big help. It's much better than the £200 winter loan that was the previous policy.

[Stairway 2 7]

25887

Found this interesting. Shows the growing amount on low paid jobs and universal credit, although covid might change the graph

[hibsbollah]

Another gem from Marina Hyde...

if you’ve been sitting in your metaphorical cop car staking out Downing Street for six months, you now have jack **** to show for it bar severe doughnut-induced arterial hardening. And I should probably tell you that while you were waiting, like a coiled Krispy Kreme, the government junked its obesity strategy (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/may/14/delay-to-junk-food-ads-ban-could-blow-a-hole-in-uk-obesity-strategy), so … thoughts and prayers. Oh, and while you were reading this, the prime minister changed the ministerial code (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/27/boris-johnson-changes-ministerial-code-to-remove-need-to-resign-over-breaches) so ministers accused of breaking it – eg him – don’t have to resign. ****finger strikes again! Seriously, everything he touches ...

No drive, no spine, very little vision: even science can’t explain the creatures clinging on to Johnson | Marina Hyde | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/27/boris-johnson-sue-gray-partygate)

[grunt]

The Times reports that Downing Street had access to drafts of Sue Gray's report in advance and intervened to get details of the Abba party in Boris Johnson's flat removed.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT3hdPMWAAE1kH9?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT3hdPRWQAwUeCY?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Just Alf]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT3hdPMWAAE1kH9?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT3hdPRWQAwUeCY?format=jpg&name=900x900I suppose they're lucky the ministerial code has been tweaked or they could have been in real trouble:agree:

[Keith_M]

We have a Government system where there are no consequences whatsoever for the Prime Minister, or any of his Cabinet, for blatantly lying to Parliament.... but an MP can be censured for simply saying that the Prime Minister lied to Parliament, even if it's true.


What a messed up version of democracy we have.

[Stairway 2 7]

Just saw a report on the news saying that a young couple in Lewisham, were sent home after the hospital staff had told them their babies heart had stopped beating. The girl then gave birth at home (15weeks). They then took the foetus in a box to A&E, where the staff told them their was nothing they could do for them. The husband then took the foetus home and put it in the fridge as they Hospital said they'd no room.

Absolutely deplorable from the staff.

Is this what it's come to?

Surely someone could have stepped in and helped them.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/woman-says-she-had-to-take-baby-e2-80-99s-remains-home-from-hospital-after-miscarriage/ar-AAXSxG8?ocid=uxbndlbing

Can't blame the tories for this isolated gutting incident.

[grunt]

Can't blame the tories for this isolated gutting incident.I think that's debatable, as the Tory squeeze on NHS funding is being felt across the country. Of course, I have no idea if this sad incident was consequent on NHS constraints.

I do however think that if this had happened in Glasgow, many in our Scottish press including the lamentable BBC Scotland, would be pushing this story as another example of SNP bad. That's just an opinion, of course.

[Jack]

Can't blame the tories for this isolated gutting incident.

Is it an isolated incident or a series of systems failures leading to this unfortunate case? Add to that clinical staff shortages, ambulance shortages etc. serving a University hospital and you have a NHS that's not fit for purpose in the capital of the UK.

[ronaldo7]

Can't blame the tories for this isolated gutting incident.

I blamed the staff. I'm sure some of them are Tories though. :rolleyes:

[Hibrandenburg]

Can't blame the tories for this isolated gutting incident.Just out of interest, if you can't blame the tories who've been in government for 12 years now and have watched over the deterioration of the NHS, then who is to blame?

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[Stairway 2 7]

Just out of interest, if you can't blame the tories who've been in government for 12 years now and have watched over the deterioration of the NHS, then who is to blame?

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It's an isolated incident, tories can be blamed for the general trend which is incidentally pish. Was there not incidents at the new Glasgow hospital and covered up deaths, I wouldn't blame snp for that either.

[Stairway 2 7]

I blamed the staff. I'm sure some of them are Tories though. :rolleyes:

Why on this thread then if it wasn't about the tories

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/queen-elizabeth-university-hospital-cover-up/#:~:text=In%20Glasgow%2C%20the%20building%20of,cov er%2Dup%20of%20the%20problems.

A culture of cover up: “I believed the doctors when they said my baby’s was an isolated case. Now I feel like a fool.”

[ronaldo7]

Why on this thread then if it wasn't about the tories

You're right. I've found an NHS thread on the other pages of the forum. Watch out though, it also has traces of Tories. :wink:

[Stairway 2 7]

You're right. I've found an NHS thread on the other pages of the forum. Watch out though, it also has traces of Tories. :wink:

Good they treat the NHS like dirt

[grunt]

https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/queen-elizabeth-university-hospital-cover-up/#:~:text=In%20Glasgow%2C%20the%20building%20of,cov er%2Dup%20of%20the%20problems.

A culture of cover up: “I believed the doctors when they said my baby’s was an isolated case. Now I feel like a fool.”QED. In Scotland, it's a political story.

[Stairway 2 7]

QED. In Scotland, it's a political story.

Which is wrong. Don't lower yourself to their level, there is mountains of wrongs the tories have done

[JeMeSouviens]

Some speculation on twitter among journos that the 54 letters is very close or already breached and Brady of the '22 will be calling a confidence vote when parliament returns.

Also Johnson's approval has gone -ve among Tory members as surveyed by ConservativeHome. MPs not ****ing it from their members makes no confidence in Johnson more and more likely.

One of only 2 other Tories with a -ve approval? Good old Doogie the Lino. :greengrin

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT_gwRYWUAA2Cu_?format=jpg&name=small

[Stairway 2 7]

Some speculation on twitter among journos that the 54 letters is very close or already breached and Brady of the '22 will be calling a confidence vote when parliament returns.

Also Johnson's approval has gone -ve among Tory members as surveyed by ConservativeHome. MPs not ****ing it from their members makes no confidence in Johnson more and more likely.

One of only 2 other Tories with a -ve approval? Good old Doogie the Lino. :greengrin

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT_gwRYWUAA2Cu_?format=jpg&name=small

What a depressing list. I think opposition parties are best served with boris stuttering at the helm. But that is no reason for him to stay, he deserves the boor. Morally corrupt embarrassment

[grunt]

What a depressing list. Oh I don't know. Having Douglas Ross as the second most unpopular MP among members of his own party is quite amusing, I think.

[Stairway 2 7]

Oh I don't know. Having Douglas Ross as the second most unpopular MP among members of his own party is quite amusing, I think.

That is hilarious. Truss, mogg, gove and barclay ect being in the positives less so

[Bostonhibby]

Oh I don't know. Having Douglas Ross as the second most unpopular MP among members of his own party is quite amusing, I think.Second only to Bozo's number one chum, Murray Ross.

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[stokesmessiah]

He is getting mightily close to being on a shoogly peg here?? 28th conservative now publicly declared he has to go.

[hibsbollah]

Leadsom now, shes not in the Cabinet but she's still a big hitter politically. I think the Big Top is about to collapse on top of the circus performers.

[Ozyhibby]

He is getting mightily close to being on a shoogly peg here?? 28th conservative now publicly declared he has to go.

That’s more than had publicly declared against May when she reached the figure required.


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[stokesmessiah]

That’s more than had publicly declared against May when she reached the figure required.


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I was trying to remember that earlier…can you mind how many came out?

Interesting to see what happens when parliament resumes…

[Ozyhibby]

I was trying to remember that earlier…can you mind how many came out?

Interesting to see what happens when parliament resumes…

It was about half the number needed had declared. Although with May there were less Tory mp’s so the number was lower anyway.
I’d say in the next day or so, Johnson will reach the magic number. Then it gets interesting.


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[lapsedhibee]

I’d say in the next day or so, Johnson will reach the magic number.

Something worth partying about this week after all. :party:

[stu in nottingham]

It was about half the number needed had declared. Although with May there were less Tory mp’s so the number was lower anyway.
I’d say in the next day or so, Johnson will reach the magic number. Then it gets interesting.


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It's based on 15% of current MPs required which I understand on current numbers would be 54 letters.

[Stairway 2 7]

They would be mad to put in a new leader just now. Inflation is going to rise for the next 9 months, who ever comes in is going to be presiding over a horrible time.

For that reason and johnson deserving everything he gets, I hope they do

[stokesmessiah]

They would be mad to put in a new leader just now. Inflation is going to rise for the next 9 months, who ever comes in is going to be presiding over a horrible time.

For that reason and johnson deserving everything he gets, I hope they do

They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t now. Wait until the market steadies and they will probably be too close to an election campaign.

[stu in nottingham]

I'd imagine they were pinning their hopes on 'golden boy' Sunak previously but now he's on the naughty step with the public. Perhaps hard to imagine a natural vote winner amongst the rest. Most of them are damaged goods.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/GavinBarwell/status/1531607135536271361

A thread on the options for the tories. Would boris winning a confidence vote be the worst option for them

[Smartie]

I can see a tough couple of years for the Tories whatever they do.

If only it was as easy at should be to "unify the left" and kick them out on their *****.

[Hibs Class]

I saw a suggestion yesterday that Johnson's allies may force a confidence vote now in expectation of him surviving and then having 12 months without the threat of another confidence vote

[Hibrandenburg]

I saw a suggestion yesterday that Johnson's allies may force a confidence vote now in expectation of him surviving and then having 12 months without the threat of another confidence vote

Sounds familiar.

[Stairway 2 7]

Uk inflation higher than EU at 9%.

Germany 8.7%
Spain 8.5%
US 8.3%
France 5.4%
Eu 8.1%

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/31/euro-zone-inflation-hits-yet-another-record-high-as-food-and-energy-prices-soar.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar

[Hibrandenburg]

Uk inflation higher than EU at 9%.

Germany 8.7%
Spain 8.5%
US 8.3%
France 5.4%
Eu 8.1%

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/31/euro-zone-inflation-hits-yet-another-record-high-as-food-and-energy-prices-soar.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar

A half Liter of my go to beer has gone up from 79 to 88 cents. You know things in Germany are getting serious when beer is nearly as expensive as water

[Jack]

I was in that famous oil producing island of Tenerife earlier this month where petrol costs €1.40 (£1.19) a litre.

[Stairway 2 7]

A half Liter of my go to beer has gone up from 79 to 88 cents. You know things in Germany are getting serious when beer is nearly as expensive as water

😆

[Stairway 2 7]

I was in that famous oil producing island of Tenerife earlier this month where petrol costs €1.40 (£1.19) a litre.

Less tax on it. Norway is the highest even with how much it produces

Petrol Diesel
1 Norway € 2.39 (+ 0.03) € 2.12 (- 0.15)
2 Finland € 2.36 (+ 0.14) € 2.23 (- 0.01)
3 Netherlands € 2.36 (+ 0.07) € 2.08 (- 0.10)
4 Greece € 2.26 (+ 0.13)€ 1.87 (- 0.03)
5 Denmark € 2.24 (+ 0.10) € 1.92 (- 0.12)
6 Germany € 2.16 (+ 0.06) € 2.02(- 0.07)
7 Switzerland € 2.11 (+ 0.12) € 2.24 (+ 0.09)
8 Sweden € 2.09 (+ 0.10) € 2.21 (- 0.11)
9 Portugal € 2.07 (+ 0.11) € 1.84 (- 0.08)
10 Estonia € 2.00 (+ 0.17) € 1.85 (+ 0.05)
11 Iceland € 1.98 (- 0.01) € 2.01 (- 0.01)
12 Belgium € 1.98 (+ 0.08) € 1.96 (- 0.12)
13 France € 1.97 (+ 0.09) € 1.80 (- 0.14)
14 Great Britain € 1.97 (+ 0.05) € 2.17 (+ 0.08)
15 Latvia € 1.94 (+ 0.09) € 1.88 (- 0.02)
16 Spain € 1.94 (+ 0.06) € 1.84 (- 0.06)
17 Italy € 1.89 (+ 0.07) € 1.84 (- 0.01)

[Keith_M]

A half Liter of my go to beer has gone up from 79 to 88 cents. You know things in Germany are getting serious when beer is nearly as expensive as water


The UK has solved that problem by reintroducing Imperial Measures.

[cabbageandribs1875]

jail them both Peter Stefanovic on Twitter: "Today Johnson's deputy official spokesman refused at least 7 times to deny the gathering took place. The Commons Privileges Committee could now demand the messages are handed over to its investigation into whether the PM misled Parliament over Partygate https://t.co/xahFhhzJrP" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/1531348105299431425?s=19&fbclid=IwAR037Bu39xPGqv4Ul_qBA1uKEObpnIUuqPwnlxUjf HSaMnjxjZfiQg1TarY)

i see further down those tweets someone saying Johnson has been calling his critics promising them promotions and asking in return that they 'stay with me' lol creepy crooked corrupt liar


i have noticed the last few months princess nut nut managing to stay out of the headlines

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/284823518_10158478299136536_4880843098097957851_n. jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=VpjN2zeaokQAX9oFBhO&_nc_oc=AQlRs1iOYAHtpfc8wHmXWpjFXXy8FGyA1Q8Jibbb0HY OSFc4tptVSUG9xFZw1qMR8iQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT8QAwGrlGif20elZzKQaFBXSHvC8eEveBEOfWf2X9H3 Aw&oe=629BD218

[neil7908]

Some speculation on twitter among journos that the 54 letters is very close or already breached and Brady of the '22 will be calling a confidence vote when parliament returns.

Also Johnson's approval has gone -ve among Tory members as surveyed by ConservativeHome. MPs not ****ing it from their members makes no confidence in Johnson more and more likely.

One of only 2 other Tories with a -ve approval? Good old Doogie the Lino. :greengrin

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT_gwRYWUAA2Cu_?format=jpg&name=small

I want BJ gone. But Christ, what are we going to end up with, Truss as PM? We'll be at war (literally) with the EU in a month.

It will be funny to see Boris squrim if they reach the 54 letters but with Sunak now looking down and out, the truth is Boris will survive comfortably any vote of confidence. Other politicians in his position would then reflect on their legacy, damage to the party etc and resign. But we know Boris will cling on to dear life, and use any dodgy trick he can muster.

It's going to be a crap couple of years till the next election whatever happens.

[Ozyhibby]

I want BJ gone. But Christ, what are we going to end up with, Truss as PM? We'll be at war (literally) with the EU in a month.

It will be funny to see Boris squrim if they reach the 54 letters but with Sunak now looking down and out, the truth is Boris will survive comfortably any vote of confidence. Other politicians in his position would then reflect on their legacy, damage to the party etc and resign. But we know Boris will cling on to dear life, and use any dodgy trick he can muster.

It's going to be a crap couple of years till the next election whatever happens.

Unless Starmer has to resign because of lockdown rules (highly unlikely) and then Johnson goes for a snap election?


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[Stairway 2 7]

Can't see any election happening, just because one paper said it. They can sit back for 3 years. In that time inflation and fuel prices should be down and corona will be largely behind everyone. Biggest chance of him being booted might be end of the year when inflation will peak and second gas rise will have hit. Bring in someone new as things are recovering

[Ozyhibby]

https://news.stv.tv/politics/stv-news-poll-suggests-boris-johnson-is-a-toxic-brand-for-the-scottish-tories

Johnson hurting the Tories in Scotland.


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[James310]

https://news.stv.tv/politics/stv-news-poll-suggests-boris-johnson-is-a-toxic-brand-for-the-scottish-tories

Johnson hurting the Tories in Scotland.


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Poll also shows Anas Sarwar more popular than Nicola Sturgeon now. Can't imagine many predicting that 6 months ago.

[Ozyhibby]

Poll also shows Anas Sarwar more popular than Nicola Sturgeon now. Can't imagine many predicting that 6 months ago.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220601/b3e5a401932a991ccf6b8c91fb0129fd.jpg
Think the poll shows that more people just don’t know who he is but you read it your way.[emoji6]


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[Moulin Yarns]

Poll also shows Anas Sarwar more popular than Nicola Sturgeon now. Can't imagine many predicting that 6 months ago.

:faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:


Strugeon 53%

Sarwar 46%

[Stairway 2 7]

:faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:


Strugeon 53%

Sarwar 46%

How you you judge popularity. How many like you, the net, how little dislike you. Most go with net.

It's fair to say the linesman is disliked. People have an opinion either way about NS it seems

[James310]

:faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:


Strugeon 53%

Sarwar 46%

Sarwar + 19
Sturgeon +12

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/anas-sarwar-popular-nicola-sturgeon-27121656


"Anas Sarwar is now more popular than Nicola Sturgeon, according to a new opinion poll.

The Scottish Labour leader came top of the popularity contest weeks after securing second place at the council elections - his party’s strongest showing in years."

I could add lots of laughing emojis but that would be kind of childish, so I won't.

[Moulin Yarns]

Sarwar + 19
Sturgeon +12

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/anas-sarwar-popular-nicola-sturgeon-27121656


"Anas Sarwar is now more popular than Nicola Sturgeon, according to a new opinion poll.

The Scottish Labour leader came top of the popularity contest weeks after securing second place at the council elections - his party’s strongest showing in years."

I could add lots of laughing emojis but that would be kind of childish, so I won't.



The problem with that is the 'don't knows' only 6% for NS but 27% don't know who Sarwar is, the same number who 'dissapprove' of him :faf::faf::faf::faf:


His strongest showing for years! 46%!!!! not even 50% :greengrin

[James310]

The problem with that is the 'don't knows' only 6% for NS but 27% don't know who Sarwar is, the same number who 'approve' of him :faf::faf::faf::faf:

👍

[Stairway 2 7]

The problem with that is the 'don't knows' only 6% for NS but 27% don't know who Sarwar is, the same number who 'dissapprove' of him :faf::faf::faf::faf:


His strongest showing for years! 46%!!!! not even 50% :greengrin

Doesn't mean they don't know him but don't choose approve or disapprove. Harvey has 37% without an opinion but still a large 30% dissapprove.

Sarwar has best approval rating, but I still think Sturgeons is decent seeing as she has led for so long

[DaveF]

Says it all when a tory voter is reduced to promoting a Labour leader to score a point. There really is nothing to choose between the parties.

[Stairway 2 7]

Says it all when a tory voter is reduced to promoting a Labour leader to score a point. There really is nothing to choose between the parties.

There is something to choose between them saying there isn't is just wrong. Yes they are pathetic in working together to get councils ect. Starmer has brought the party very centre swaying into the right. The tories are full right wing. Snp are very centre left, verging on new labour territory

[Moulin Yarns]

Doesn't mean they don't know him but don't choose approve or disapprove. Harvey has 37% without an opinion but still a large 30% dissapprove.

Sarwar has best approval rating, but I still think Sturgeons is decent seeing as she has led for so long

Sarwar' best approval at 46% yet sturgeon is still at 53%.

I Did get an A for arithmetic o grade and know what is better

[Stairway 2 7]

Sarwar' best approval at 46% yet sturgeon is still at 53%.

I Did get an A for arithmetic o grade and know what is better

Not necessarily when a huge number dislike you. But that comes with being the incumbent for so long

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Tony_Diver/status/1532018299176898562

Tony_Diver
Pretty extraordinary article here from Tobias Ellwood, where he argues we should rejoin the single market to ease the cost of living crisis, even if it means accepting EU regs and freedom of movement.

Is anyone else in his party going to back this idea

[Jack]

Boris ripped a new one by mums.net 😆

https://youtu.be/irhtoo35VQo

[Hibernia&Alba]

If you find standards in public life impossible to meet, just change the rules. Why isn't the process totally independent? No PM should be able to reduce public standards to his own gutter level ethics.


https://youtu.be/2YBngJC2evg

[Mr Grieves]

12 years, cost of £3.2 billion, not a single vehicle deployed, soldiers discharged due to health problems caused by testing and delays are a risk to national security.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fix-ajax-light-tanks-scrap-them-military-armed-forces-wz062n6v3

[JimBHibees]

12 years, cost of £3.2 billion, not a single vehicle deployed, soldiers discharged due to health problems caused by testing and delays are a risk to national security.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fix-ajax-light-tanks-scrap-them-military-armed-forces-wz062n6v3

I am sure it will get the same BBC airtime as the ferry scandal

[Mr Grieves]

I am sure it will get the same BBC airtime as the ferry scandal

Daily updates I'm sure. Intriguingly the media aren't taking the party political angle with quotes from every opposition leader sticking the boot in, it's simply the MOD's fault.

[grunt]

Johnson booed by the crowd as he arrives at St Pauls for jubilee service

https://twitter.com/vicderbyshire/status/1532660093489119233?s=20&t=_AxzJDXYAJhI0rtWnsBUJw

[Stairway 2 7]

Johnson booed by the crowd as he arrives at St Pauls for jubilee service

https://twitter.com/vicderbyshire/status/1532660093489119233?s=20&t=_AxzJDXYAJhI0rtWnsBUJw

Brilliant

[lapsedhibee]

Johnson booed by the crowd as he arrives at St Pauls for jubilee service

https://twitter.com/vicderbyshire/status/1532660093489119233?s=20&t=_AxzJDXYAJhI0rtWnsBUJw

He'll think they're booing Antoinette.

[grunt]

When a Conservative prime minister is being booed by monarchists, waving Union Jacks at a thanksgiving service for the Queen, the party has a serious problem.Indeed.

[Kato]

He'll think they're booing Antoinette.https://twitter.com/LevellingDown/status/1532667904201719809?t=CUbBLKKM-W6DZVIf6bmgKQ&s=19

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[heretoday]

I'd be happier about Boris getting booed if I didn't suspect the majority of the crowd weren't having days out from mental institutions throughout the country.

[Moulin Yarns]

Johnson booed by the crowd as he arrives at St Pauls for jubilee service

https://twitter.com/vicderbyshire/status/1532660093489119233?s=20&t=_AxzJDXYAJhI0rtWnsBUJw

Heard a rumour that more letters are going in tonight and the threshhold will be passed. fingers crossed.

[grunt]

I'd be happier about Boris getting booed if I didn't suspect the majority of the crowd weren't having days out from mental institutions throughout the country.
:confused:

[Hibernia&Alba]

Indeed.

Yes, a Royalist crowd booing a Tory PM. That means he and his party have big problems.

[WeeRussell]

Poll also shows Anas Sarwar more popular than Nicola Sturgeon now. Can't imagine many predicting that 6 months ago.

I can’t imagine it being true. Now or anytime soon.

Labour haven’t enough significance in this country, even if he had the potential to be pretty popular.

[Moulin Yarns]

I can’t imagine it being true. Now or anytime soon.

Labour haven’t enough significance in this country, even if he had the potential to be pretty popular.

It's not true, he is on 46% approval compared to sturgeon on more than 50%. The way he is twisting it is that 27% disapprove of Sarwar and another 27% couldn't care enough. Whereas all the unionists polled disapprove of sturgeon

[James310]

It's not true, he is on 46% approval compared to sturgeon on more than 50%. The way he is twisting it is that 27% disapprove of Sarwar and another 27% couldn't care enough. Whereas all the unionists polled disapprove of sturgeon

Lol, you keep at it.

https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,anas-sarwar-is-most-popular-leader-in-scotland-but-snp-remain-dominant

"Scottish Labour’s Anas Sarwar is Scotland’s most popular party leader with a net satisfaction rating of +18 while Prime Minister Boris Johnson has sunk to an all-time low at -71."

All these media outlets keep getting it wrong!

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/anas-sarwar-popular-nicola-sturgeon-27121656

"Anas Sarwar more popular than Nicola Sturgeon among Scots voters, poll finds"

[Moulin Yarns]

Lol, you keep at it.

https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,anas-sarwar-is-most-popular-leader-in-scotland-but-snp-remain-dominant

"Scottish Labour’s Anas Sarwar is Scotland’s most popular party leader with a net satisfaction rating of +18 while Prime Minister Boris Johnson has sunk to an all-time low at -71."

All these media outlets keep getting it wrong!

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/anas-sarwar-popular-nicola-sturgeon-27121656

LOL you can dress it up any way you like but more people approve of sturgeon than Sarwar.

Yes, more people disapprove as well, but as I said, all of the unionists will have disapproved of sturgeon while only half of them would disapprove of Sarwar, the rest would disapprove of Ross.

[Hibrandenburg]

Johnson booed by the crowd as he arrives at St Pauls for jubilee service

https://twitter.com/vicderbyshire/status/1532660093489119233?s=20&t=_AxzJDXYAJhI0rtWnsBUJwSky News were reporting it as "Johnson getting booed by crowd" but someone has obviously been on the blower to them and they're now reporting it as "Johnson getting booed and cheered by crowd".

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[WeeRussell]

It's not true, he is on 46% approval compared to sturgeon on more than 50%. The way he is twisting it is that 27% disapprove of Sarwar and another 27% couldn't care enough. Whereas all the unionists polled disapprove of sturgeon

Oh I get it, don’t worry 👍

I can believe your last line right enough!

[WeeRussell]

Lol, you keep at it.

https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,anas-sarwar-is-most-popular-leader-in-scotland-but-snp-remain-dominant

"Scottish Labour’s Anas Sarwar is Scotland’s most popular party leader with a net satisfaction rating of +18 while Prime Minister Boris Johnson has sunk to an all-time low at -71."

All these media outlets keep getting it wrong!

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/anas-sarwar-popular-nicola-sturgeon-27121656

"Anas Sarwar more popular than Nicola Sturgeon among Scots voters, poll finds"

…. We’ve never seen any papers like the daily record print anything that isn’t entirely accurate.

[James310]

…. We’ve never seen any papers like the daily record print anything that isn’t entirely accurate.

+19 is higher than +12, I don't think anyone can argue with the accuracy of that.

[WeeRussell]

+19 is higher than +12, I don't think anyone can argue with the accuracy of that.

You’d think not, but then I didn’t think anyone could argue which is higher out of 53 and 46.

[Moulin Yarns]

+19 is higher than +12, I don't think anyone can argue with the accuracy of that.

LOL nobody is arguing with that, it's the way it's arrived at and somehow becomes Sarwar is more popular than sturgeon that's the joke!

Sturgeon 56

Sarwar 46

I think it was, but somehow a Tory is saying that Sarwar is more popular 🤔🙄

[Stairway 2 7]

+19 is higher than +12, I don't think anyone can argue with the accuracy of that.

That is the standard way to show approval rating. Many commented when boris and Douglas Ross had negative approval. Not saying its the best way, but you can't pick and choose

[lapsedhibee]

Lol, you keep at it.

https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,anas-sarwar-is-most-popular-leader-in-scotland-but-snp-remain-dominant

"Scottish Labour’s Anas Sarwar is Scotland’s most popular party leader with a net satisfaction rating of +18 while Prime Minister Boris Johnson has sunk to an all-time low at -71."

All these media outlets keep getting it wrong!

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/anas-sarwar-popular-nicola-sturgeon-27121656

"Anas Sarwar more popular than Nicola Sturgeon among Scots voters, poll finds"

You think 1953+70=2022 though, so I'm not taking your arithmetic as gospel.

[James310]

That is the standard way to show approval rating. Many commented when boris and Douglas Ross had negative approval. Not saying its the best way, but you can't pick and choose

It is the standard way, that why all the media are reporting it that way.

[Moulin Yarns]

It is the standard way, that why all the media are reporting it that way.

Aye, but the truth is out there 😉🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[Moulin Yarns]

More than 100 women were sent to Scotland by NHS England for eating disorder treatment amid a bed shortage

https://t.co/f4C2Syk0gY

Not enough beds in hospital for eating disorders.




£10m Well spent 😉

[Jack]

More than 100 women were sent to Scotland by NHS England for eating disorder treatment amid a bed shortage

https://t.co/f4C2Syk0gY

Not enough beds in hospital for eating disorders.




£10m Well spent 😉

To be fair there's been cross border stuff for all sorts of stuff, probably since the NHS was founded.

Keep this on the back burner for the inevitable assault by Dross on Scottish patients being shipped down south for treatment, never mind the many folk living in the border area whose GP is based in the other county.

[degenerated]

That is the standard way to show approval rating. Many commented when boris and Douglas Ross had negative approval. Not saying its the best way, but you can't pick and chooseThe bigger point is they mean the square root of **** all. You know, I know and I'm sure James310 knows too that anas sarwar is never going to win an election in Scotland.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/shippersunbound/status/1533136601794093057?s=21&t=pBPKkc8s62hvhthALMbqKw

Vote of confidence this week?


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[Stairway 2 7]

The bigger point is they mean the square root of **** all. You know, I know and I'm sure James310 knows too that anas sarwar is never going to win an election in Scotland.

They don't mean anything for elections, but they can mean a lot for leadership of a party. If boris keeps up his negative rating he'll get the chop. I'd guess Sarwar is safe even though he's a Starmer, Blairite tool. If NS went negative I guess she'd be for it too. But she's done very well to keep the ratings positive, especially as she is very much the establishment in Scotland and had such a long time in charge

[cabbageandribs1875]

good old editing by state TV.....Supertanskiii on Twitter: "The BBC have: - Removed the boos from footage of Johnson at St Paul’s. - Replaced his disheveled cenotaph appearance with footage from years prior. - Removed audio of audience laughing at him on Question Time. Funny how their “mistakes” always favour him, isn’t it?" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/supertanskiii/status/1533068543108972544?s=19&fbclid=IwAR0ospA1NNa7GwdIzfeqbMUQGvdLPQBPSG0_o2xUE QFdGI2KETlo4NRB7Sg)


i do like that tweet from user 'Katy' further down the page

[Stairway 2 7]

https://twitter.com/shippersunbound/status/1533136601794093057?s=21&t=pBPKkc8s62hvhthALMbqKw

Vote of confidence this week?


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Think the booing will have made an impact, surely will be one. Will he win it though

[degenerated]

They don't mean anything for elections, but they can mean a lot for leadership of a party. If boris keeps up his negative rating he'll get the chop. I'd guess Sarwar is safe even though he's a Starmer, Blairite tool. If NS went negative I guess she'd be for it too. But she's done very well to keep the ratings positive, especially as she is very much the establishment in Scotland and had such a long time in chargeTool being the operative word :greengrin

[Santa Cruz]

They don't mean anything for elections, but they can mean a lot for leadership of a party. If boris keeps up his negative rating he'll get the chop. I'd guess Sarwar is safe even though he's a Starmer, Blairite tool. If NS went negative I guess she'd be for it too. But she's done very well to keep the ratings positive, especially as she is very much the establishment in Scotland and had such a long time in charge

Sarwar was not a Blairite, he was a Brownite and he's not a tool either. :aok:

[Kato]

good old editing by state TV.....Supertanskiii on Twitter: "The BBC have: - Removed the boos from footage of Johnson at St Paul’s. - Replaced his disheveled cenotaph appearance with footage from years prior. - Removed audio of audience laughing at him on Question Time. Funny how their “mistakes” always favour him, isn’t it?" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/supertanskiii/status/1533068543108972544?s=19&fbclid=IwAR0ospA1NNa7GwdIzfeqbMUQGvdLPQBPSG0_o2xUE QFdGI2KETlo4NRB7Sg)


i do like that tweet from user 'Katy' further down the pageA reminder that Orwell worked at the BBC. The fictional "Ministry of Truth" is based on the national broadcaster.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Sarwar was not a Blairite, he was a Brownite and he's not a tool either. :aok:

He's certainly a tool and brownite is hardly a compliment. Privately educated in Scotland like Blair also. Centre right along with Mandelson, Starmer and the jambo pluke Murray. He'll definitely no get culled by Starmers war against the left, that's safe to say.

[Jack]

More than 100 women were sent to Scotland by NHS England for eating disorder treatment amid a bed shortage

https://t.co/f4C2Syk0gY

Not enough beds in hospital for eating disorders.




£10m Well spent 😉


To be fair there's been cross border stuff for all sorts of stuff, probably since the NHS was founded.

Keep this on the back burner for the inevitable assault by Dross on Scottish patients being shipped down south for treatment, never mind the many folk living in the border area whose GP is based in the other county.

Didn't take long to find a story!

Women and girls forced to have abortions in London due to ‘shameful’ lack of care across*Scotland
Women who wanted to have abortions during the pandemic have continued their pregnancies due a chronic and longstanding lack of access to late-stage terminations across Scotland, a leading charity has warned.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/women-and-girls-forced-to-have-abortions-in-london-due-to-shameful-lack-of-care-across-scotland-3719583

[Moulin Yarns]

Didn't take long to find a story!



Or 2 days to be fair 😂

[Keith_M]

Didn't take long to find a story!

Women and girls forced to have abortions in London due to ‘shameful’ lack of care across*Scotland
Women who wanted to have abortions during the pandemic have continued their pregnancies due a chronic and longstanding lack of access to late-stage terminations across Scotland, a leading charity has warned.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/women-and-girls-forced-to-have-abortions-in-london-due-to-shameful-lack-of-care-across-scotland-3719583


What exactly constitutes a 'late stage termination'?

[Stairway 2 7]

Richard Vaughan
@RichardVaughan1
·

Tories believe a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister is “fairly nailed on” this week.

Rebels accuse whips of using “threats, intimidation and blackmail” as they “scramble attacks” on mutineers

Latest from me and
@HugoGye

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/no-10-whips-scrambling-attack-tory-rebels-confidence-vote-boris-johnson-1670443

[Stairway 2 7]

What exactly constitutes a 'late stage termination'?

23 weeks in the uk. You'd need medical assistance anywhere near that date, as it couldn't be delivered at home I'd assume

[cabbageandribs1875]

A reminder that Orwell worked at the BBC. The fictional "Ministry of Truth" is based on the national broadcaster.

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coincidently i finally got around to watching some of the HP films the other night on sky and my very first thought was 'TORIES' when the janitor dude was forced to put up a lot of new 'laws'.......'kin Tories :cb

[Kato]

https://twitter.com/josiahmortimer/status/1530494268074254336?t=S1tBOtf8hGofVRnfz74POw&s=19

Dodgy email stuff on Johnson from his time as Mayor of London. At a guess they could include dodgy stuff on his affair with Acuri, dodgy stuff on his Russian paymasters at The Telegraph and dodgy stuff on his Putin linked pal he put in the HoL. Probably some more dodgy stuff in there as well.

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[hibsbollah]

Sounds like the No Confidence vote will be called very soon now. ITV news briefing the 54 MP threshold has been passed.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/jun/06/boris-johnson-confidence-vote-graham-brady-tory-mps-live

I would care, if I had any confidence that the next bassa would be any less objectionable.

[lapsedhibee]

Sounds like the No Confidence vote will be called very soon now. ITV news briefing the 54 MP threshold has been passed.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/jun/06/boris-johnson-confidence-vote-graham-brady-tory-mps-live

I would care, if I had any confidence that the next bassa would be any less objectionable.

Win the vote tomorrow, stay on for the good of the war effort, limp on for a couple of weeks of extended booing, more internal Tory party drama after by-election wipeouts, then after another month an 'alas' speech and that'll be it. THANK **** FOR THAT, even if the next bassa is objectionable.

[Aldo]

Vote/ballot from 6pm this evening!


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[stokesmessiah]

I can’t see anyway that they get rid of him tonight?

[Scorrie]

There’s no obvious alternative candidate so can see Johnson winning but leading a split party which becomes even more unpopular. Ideal scenario actually!

[Ozyhibby]

I can’t see anyway that they get rid of him tonight?

I actually have a funny feeling he might lose tonight.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Worst outcome for them is boris winning. Public have lost faith and it won't be won back. If he loses, some other basket will come in. The newcomer will say partygate was nothing to do with me, this is a new regime ect. When inflation drops worldwide they will also probably somehow try to take credit for it

[Ozyhibby]

Worst outcome for them is boris winning. Public have lost faith and it won't be won back. If he loses, some other basket will come in. The newcomer will say partygate was nothing to do with me, this is a new regime ect. When inflation drops worldwide they will also probably somehow try to take credit for it

That’s why I think Hunt is in a good position. He has kept himself well away from Johnson and spent last couple of years on back benches. Hasn’t made a fool of himself on TV everyday trying to defend him.


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[Hibrandenburg]

Will the Prime Minister that doesn't flush finally disappear behind the U-bend?

[Northernhibee]

So many Tory voters saying they won’t vote Tory for “as long as Boris is in charge”. If he wins tonight I think they’ll be lost to the Tory party for a lot longer if they’re seen to back him.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/johnpenrosenews/status/1533753928483061760?s=21&t=LBxdCSKo8Dr19sMEw52MGg

He’s done for.


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[Northernhibee]

https://twitter.com/johnpenrosenews/status/1533753928483061760?s=21&t=LBxdCSKo8Dr19sMEw52MGg

He’s done for.


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Several days too late for my liking. But you’re right, that’s a proper sign of the rats deserting a sinking ship.

Hoping Johnson calls a GE out of vindictiveness. Think that there are enough in his party who follow blindly enough to help vote it through.

[JeMeSouviens]

https://twitter.com/johnpenrosenews/status/1533753928483061760?s=21&t=LBxdCSKo8Dr19sMEw52MGg

He’s done for.


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Penrose is Mr Dido - thanks for the memories (and the moolah), BJ. :na na:

Also, "anti-corruption champion". :faf:

[JeMeSouviens]

When you see Johnson's history all laid out like this:

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1533765420427186179

It's just incredible that the Tories and subsequently the public ever elected him. Absolute ****bag.

[Skol]

I think Johnson will win this tonight, however ultimately he will be forced out by the end of the year, probably earlier

[Northernhibee]

I think Johnson will win this tonight, however ultimately he will be forced out by the end of the year, probably earlier

Could the opposition benches then call a VONC and force the back benches to change their mind and back Boris or potentially trigger a GE? Boris is poison to publically back just now so it would force their hand.

[Northernhibee]

Nadine Dorries
@NadineDorries
· 39m
3/4 Your pandemic preparation during six years as health secretary was found wanting and inadequate.Your duplicity right now in destabilising the party and country to serve your own personal ambition, more so.

Latest rant at Jeremy Hunt that accidentally seems to admit that we were unprepared for the pandemic due to the Tories.

The gift that keeps on giving.

[Bostonhibby]

Nadine Dorries
@NadineDorries
· 39m
3/4 Your pandemic preparation during six years as health secretary was found wanting and inadequate.Your duplicity right now in destabilising the party and country to serve your own personal ambition, more so.

Latest rant at Jeremy Hunt that accidentally seems to admit that we were unprepared for the pandemic due to the Tories.

The gift that keeps on giving.The Chris Grayling of her generation within the nasty party but gets a few extra nasty points.

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[GlesgaeHibby]

https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1533781205224771585?cxt=HHwWgsC-yaf4iskqAAAA

[Hibernia&Alba]

I expect Bozo will survive tonight's vote then all the patter will be "getting on with the job, now the issue has been put to bed" :rolleyes:

We will probably need to wait until the general election before the Tories decide to ditch him.

[Just_Jimmy]

I just cannot comprehend on any level why anyone supports Johnson, and more so can justify supporting the tory party as a whole.

The whole ****ing thing has been an unmitigated disaster.



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[Smartie]

I expect Bozo will survive tonight's vote then all the patter will be "getting on with the job, now the issue has been put to bed" :rolleyes:

We will probably need to wait until the general election before the Tories decide to ditch him.

I thought he was teflon but this crisis will take a bit of getting through for him.

Lovely to watch.

[hibsbollah]

Neither Alister Jack nor Douglas Ross were one of the 54 MPs who submitted letters.
Ross in particular is all over the place on this. He must have been promised something.

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220606/b3ce49257a39dd88ed15c6b63fcaceeb.jpg


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[Smartie]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220606/b3ce49257a39dd88ed15c6b63fcaceeb.jpg


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I'm pretty sure that David Cameron gif where he's supping up the salty tears was made for situations like this one.

[hibsbollah]

For seasoned politics watchers a Tory leadership election is good TV, but it’s really a bit of a charade. The evil policies won’t change, if they do it won’t matter to the overall direction of travel; more authoritarian, more bashing the poor, more endorsement of the profit motive taking over every aspect of life.

There’s also a definite feel of an imaginary football group stage with all your most hated teams in it, Group Bassa: Rangers, Hearts, Paris St Germain, The England National Team, Uruguay 1986 Vintage. The only good outcome is plenty injuries red cards and fans rioting in the stands.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1533781205224771585?cxt=HHwWgsC-yaf4iskqAAAA

99 have now come forward saying they will support, he needs 180

[Kato]

For seasoned politics watchers a Tory leadership election is good TV, but it’s really a bit of a charade. The evil policies won’t change, if they do it won’t matter to the overall direction of travel; more authoritarian, more bashing the poor, more endorsement of the profit motive taking over every aspect of life.

There’s also a definite feel of an imaginary football group stage with all your most hated teams in it, Group Bassa: Rangers, Hearts, Paris St Germain, The England National Team, Uruguay 1986 Vintage. The only good outcome is plenty injuries red cards and fans rioting in the stands.Hopefully Johnson wins by a few votes and they tear each other apart for a few months. Revealing their personal ambitions will rile each of their own rivals.

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[Just_Jimmy]

Hopefully Johnson wins by a few votes and they tear each other apart for a few months. Revealing their personal ambitions will rile each of their own rivals.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkThe best result would be 180 bang on. Not enough to bin him but enough to show he's only there by a baw hair.

He'll get shredded every week in the commons and he's lost the public. It'll set them up to lose the election which is the ultimate goal.

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[Northernhibee]

The usual suspects with the Tory party who would have no chance of progression or keeping their job under a normal leader have been quite vocal but there's not been a ringing endorsement of Johnson since. I have a feeling he might lose this.

[Kato]

The usual suspects with the Tory party who would have no chance of progression or keeping their job under a normal leader have been quite vocal but there's not been a ringing endorsement of Johnson since. I have a feeling he might lose this.Tory donors urging MP's yo keep him on. The motive for this is unknown other than he is an asset for various vested interests, both in the UK and inbetween Poland and the Urals.

https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1533798992626204673?t=RYKSb1CgtvEfzC5JSwjo8w&s=19

[One Day Soon]

The best result would be 180 bang on. Not enough to bin him but enough to show he's only there by a baw hair.

He'll get shredded every week in the commons and he's lost the public. It'll set them up to lose the election which is the ultimate goal.

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This please.

[Northernhibee]

I wonder if there will be more defections in the coming days if he wins?

[Scorrie]

I wonder if there will be more defections in the coming days if he wins?

I suspect not but if (when?) they get pumped in the 2 by-elections later this month, it will kick off again

[Stairway 2 7]

99 have now come forward saying they will support, he needs 180

110. just needs 70 out of 250.

Probably slither out of it

[Hibrandenburg]

The usual suspects with the Tory party who would have no chance of progression or keeping their job under a normal leader have been quite vocal but there's not been a ringing endorsement of Johnson since. I have a feeling he might lose this.

Tory politicians and tory voters have one thing that drives them, personal gain. When they vote later today they will not be voting for what's best for the country or even the tory party, they will be voting for what they think is best for themselves. Johnson will scrape through this and will be unceremoniously dumped in the lead up to the next GE.

[ronaldo7]

Tory politicians and tory voters have one thing that drives them, personal gain. When they vote later today they will not be voting for what's best for the country or even the tory party, they will be voting for what they think is best for themselves. Johnson will scrape through this and will be unceremoniously dumped in the lead up to the next GE.

Tory party donors have to be taken into consideration. Those ones in the Lords, and the KGB.

https://twitter.com/kat_cary/status/1533821456043352064

[Pretty Boy]

Longer term I think a Johnson win tonight might be no bad outcome.

The next calamity is only a couple of weeks away at most. Whilst he seems able to shake off a lot of things individually, the cumulative effect is starting to prove troublesome for him. His incompetence, lying and flip flopping is increasingly an electoral liability for the Tories.

If they replace him with someone who is evil but competent that could still see an election victory against a powder puff opposition. Another couple of **** ups, make the job even more toxic and get some utter buffoon (and there's no shortage of them lining up) in there a few months before an election.

[JimBHibees]

Tory party donors have to be taken into consideration. Those ones in the Lords, and the KGB.

https://twitter.com/kat_cary/status/1533821456043352064

£80m wow

[Stairway 2 7]

110. just needs 70 out of 250.

Probably slither out of it

125 now. 45 no confidence. Needs 55 out of 190

[Hibernia&Alba]

An entire life spent being a despicable James Hunt.


https://youtu.be/0p-Ta83V7iw

[JeMeSouviens]

125 now. 45 no confidence. Needs 55 out of 190

Seemingly May had her majority publically declared by lunchtime. I still think he'll squeak through this but it's another big wound. Then he's got the by-elections to lose later this month. Then the Commons inquiry into partygate.

I get the strategic "keep him around to make sure they lose the GE" position but I'd rather have him gone just so I don't have to see his smug, entitled pus ever again (unless it's torn faced and broken, which it will be permanently once the enormity of his failure sinks in.)

Also, he's one day short of Gordon Brown's stint in office, so if he gets the boot tonight, he'd be the shortest serving PM since Anthony "Suez" Eden.

[JeMeSouviens]

Douglas Ross to vote against (well he was as of 4.45 pm at least.)

[GlesgaeHibby]

125 now. 45 no confidence. Needs 55 out of 190

Reckon he'll win by about 60/40 - but would expect some of the 125 who have declared support to vote against, such as Liz Truss and others with leadership ambitions

[JimBHibees]

Douglas Ross to vote against (well he was as of 4.45 pm at least.)

Obviously knows he is winning then

[Just_Jimmy]

Reckon he'll win by about 60/40 - but would expect some of the 125 who have declared support to vote against, such as Liz Truss and others with leadership ambitionsImagine prime minster truss... Jesus

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[SHODAN]

Johnson will only leave office when he dies or loses an election.

[Ozyhibby]

Douglas Ross to vote against (well he was as of 4.45 pm at least.)

I can barely keep up with this guy. There are people out there who think he should be First Minister of Scotland. It’s incredible.


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[JimBHibees]

Johnson will only leave office when he dies or loses an election.

Or is arrested unlikely as that might be :greengrin

[Stairway 2 7]

Seemingly May had her majority publically declared by lunchtime. I still think he'll squeak through this but it's another big wound. Then he's got the by-elections to lose later this month. Then the Commons inquiry into partygate.

I get the strategic "keep him around to make sure they lose the GE" position but I'd rather have him gone just so I don't have to see his smug, entitled pus ever again (unless it's torn faced and broken, which it will be permanently once the enormity of his failure sinks in.)

Also, he's one day short of Gordon Brown's stint in office, so if he gets the boot tonight, he'd be the shortest serving PM since Anthony "Suez" Eden.

I'm the same. Probably weaker with him but who knows. He deserves the tin pail, never mind the humiliation of defeat

[SHODAN]

If he loses a confidence vote can he just call an election?

[Stairway 2 7]

patrickkmaguire
Asked about the conduct described in the Sue Gray report, Boris Johnson told MPs: "I'd do it again.

Senior Conservative source says PM told Mark Harper he would thank staff again for their hard work

[Stairway 2 7]

(Dan Hodges)))
@DPJHodges
·

Steve Baker first to emerge. Says mood in meeting was to forgive and move on. But says he personally will not support Boris, and he should go. Says he expects Boris will win vote but see significant vote against

[Mr Grieves]

A classic

https://twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/595112367358406656?t=nekX0JCe_pHKDc3Blx41OA&s=19

Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice - stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband: https://t.co/fmhcfTunbm

[Mr Grieves]

Douglas Ross to vote against (well he was as of 4.45 pm at least.)

Is that a double uturn?

[JeMeSouviens]

Is that a double uturn?

We have had against, for, against-until-ukraine-war-over and back to against.

I think :dunno:

Double somersault with twist?

[Glory Lurker]

Baroness Davidson was reiterating her view this morning that Johnson has to go. I wonder if that's what made up Ross' mind for him? She seems to be very much in the wings, or at least the media treats her as if she is.

[weecounty hibby]

Douglas Ross is a slimey, spinless waste of space. He wants to be a leader but can't make a decision. Shown himself up for what he is, pathetic.

[weecounty hibby]

Baroness Davidson was reiterating her view this morning that Johnson has to go. I wonder if that's what made up Ross' mind for him? She seems to be very much in the wings, or at least the media treats her as if she is.

She will be wheeled out next year along with Blair as the front for better together mark II

[Oscar T Grouch]

If he loses a confidence vote can he just call an election?

He has a choice, resign or call a GE and let the people decide. James Callaghan lost a Motion of no confidence in '79 and he asked the Queen to dissolve parliament and trigger a GE and we all know how that went! Different rules now but same principle.

[JeMeSouviens]

He has a choice, resign or call a GE and let the people decide. James Callaghan lost a Motion of no confidence in '79 and he asked the Queen to dissolve parliament and trigger a GE and we all know how that went! Different rules now but same principle.

No, that was a vote of confidence in the government in parliament. This one is a vote of confidence in Johnson as leader of the Tories just by his own party. The Tories booting him out as leader doesn't actually remove him as PM until he resigns or the Queen asks another Tory to form a government (I think). So I think there would be a window where he could request a dissolution of parliament, but I've no idea if it would be granted?

[Hibrandenburg]

Douglas Ross to vote against (well he was as of 4.45 pm at least.)

If he made up his mind as a linesman like he does as a politician, it would look like he's sending semaphore.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Bozo surviving (which seems very likely) is probably the best thing for those of us wanting rid of the Tories. It means he will limp on as PM, but severely wounded. The Tories won't be able to say they are making a fresh start; all the scandals of Bozo remain with them. A new leader, more honest and more competent, would cause many people to forgive the Tories. I'm sure the opposition parties secretly want him to stay on.

[Jones28]

Bozo surviving (which seems very likely) is probably the best thing for those of us wanting rid of the rid Tories. It means he will limp on as PM, but severely wounded. The Tories won't be able to say they are making a fresh start; all the scandals of Bozo remain with them. A new leader, more honest and more competent, would cause many people to forgive the Tories. I'm sure the opposition parties secretly want him to stay on.

I think you’re right.

But the current incumbent still has support from some areas of the general public. I honestly think he’d be in with a shout of staying PM after a general election.

[Ozyhibby]

I’d rather just have someone competent in charge now. It’s nice to play political games but a lot of people are going to be really struggling over the next couple of years and they can’t really wait for a GE.


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[Jones28]

Jacob Rees Mogg boils my piss. He really is ****ing twat.

**** off back to nanny and quote some Latin to her you pompous prick.

[Stairway 2 7]

1/9 to win with the bookies.

Votes against

50-99 8/1
100-149 4/5
150-199 13/8
200-249 14/1

[cabbageandribs1875]

shame on any individual that votes for that utter cowardly crooked corrupt clown, lets see which ones have a backbone

wonder how many he's called promising them promotion

[JeMeSouviens]

(Always extremely) Sweaty sock MP Andrew Bowie votes against. As does John Lamont who has actually resigned his position as pps to Luz Truss.

That makes 50% of Scots Tories confirmed as revolting.

[GlesgaeHibby]

(Always extremely) Sweaty sock MP Andrew Bowie votes against. As does John Lamont who has actually resigned his position as pps to Luz Truss.

That makes 50% of Scots Tories confirmed as revolting.

Mundell also voted against - 4/6 now

[lapsedhibee]

shame on any individual that votes for that utter cowardly crooked corrupt clown, lets see which ones have a backbone

wonder how many he's called promising them promotion

Conversation
ALASTAIR CAMPBELL
@campbellclaret
Hearing that we are into double figures for the number of backbenchers who’ve been “promised”
@KwasiKwarteng
job

[cabbageandribs1875]

Conversation
ALASTAIR CAMPBELL
@campbellclaret
Hearing that we are into double figures for the number of backbenchers who’ve been “promised”
@KwasiKwarteng
job

ha no surprise there :) Millionaire Tory Donors now getting in on the act and insisting they want corruption to continue no doubt so they can continue increasing the funds in their canary island accounts, there's never been a Tory PM/Cabinet perfectly willing to help out those with lots of money


Dave Gould �� on Twitter: "Nadine Dorries has just announced that donors have said that they want Boris Johnson to continue and will withhold funding if he’s removed and therefore backbench MPs should listen to them. Nakedly admitting that the Tory party leadership is in the hands of a few millionaires." / Twitter (https://twitter.com/davesgould/status/1533805339786760194)



apparently Dorries is having a tad of a meltdown on Twitter

[Northernhibee]

ha no surprise there :) Millionaire Tory Donors now getting in on the act and insisting they want corruption to continue no doubt so they can continue increasing the funds in their canary island accounts, there's never been a Tory PM/Cabinet perfectly willing to help out those with lots of money


Dave Gould �� on Twitter: "Nadine Dorries has just announced that donors have said that they want Boris Johnson to continue and will withhold funding if he’s removed and therefore backbench MPs should listen to them. Nakedly admitting that the Tory party leadership is in the hands of a few millionaires." / Twitter (https://twitter.com/davesgould/status/1533805339786760194)



apparently Dorries is having a tad of a meltdown on Twitter







She’s absolutely unbelievably bad at her job.

[Keith_M]

23 weeks in the uk. You'd need medical assistance anywhere near that date, as it couldn't be delivered at home I'd assume


Thanks

:aok:

[cabbageandribs1875]

She’s absolutely unbelievably bad at her job.


Johnson's number 1 front bench nodding dug is having a ding-dong twitter spat with jeremy hunt


Nadine Dorries just laid into Jeremy Hunt and it might be her biggest self-own yet - The Poke (https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2022/06/06/nadine-dorries-just-laid-into-jeremy-hunt-and-it-might-be-her-biggest-self-own-yet/)

[ronaldo7]

Rees Mogg back in 2018 with the confidence vote on Theresa May. 117 votes was a very bad vote for the PM according to him.

Let's see how it pans out this evening.

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1072990467598385152

[Stairway 2 7]

nicholaswatt
Some very long faces on supporters of
@BorisJohnson
after poll closed. One PM ally said of Tory MPs: They are a bunch of lying snakes. I don’t trust anything they say

One of those long faces included a strong supporter of the PM who said of the rebels: I could throttle some of my colleagues. They want to hand our country to a coalition of Labour, the SNP and the Liberal Democrats. It will be votes at 16 and then who knows what will happen

[wookie70]

Moray Ross says he is supporting a vote of no confidence when the vote is a vote of confidence. Does he know what he is voting for

[Ozyhibby]

Moray Ross says he is supporting a vote of no confidence when the vote is a vote of confidence. Does he know what he is voting for

I wouldn’t trust him to understand the ballot paper. Who knows what he eventually voted for.


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[Aldo]

So it continues…..


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[Ozyhibby]

Worse than Theresa May.[emoji106]


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[Hibernia&Alba]

211-148 win for Bozo.

He is toast, but will limp on.

[Pretty Boy]

211-148

Hardly a resounding victory.

[Just_Jimmy]

What a shower of cowards.



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[SteveHFC]

211-148 win for Bozo.

He is toast, but will limp on.

He will be gone in the next few months.

[Mon Dieu4]

Sat there banging on tables like coked up idiots

[ronaldo7]

Lame duck PM

[Hibernia&Alba]

211-148

Hardly a resounding victory.

Almost 150 of his own MPs want him out. It's a real mess for Johnson, leaving him in limbo. He is severely weakened by the result.

[JeMeSouviens]

Sat there banging on tables like coked up idiots

Not sure that should be a simile. 🤧

[JeMeSouviens]

Worse than Theresa May.[emoji106]


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Quite a lot worse. 👍