Tories are still lying *******s

[grunt]

Peter Bone is 70 years old. Apparently these offences took place 10 years ago. Justice is swift in the lying Tory party.


Tory MP Peter Bone faces six-week suspension from Commons after he was found to have committed "many varied acts of bullying and one act of sexual misconduct" by the Independent Expert Panel. It could mean recall petition if standards committee reaches same conclusion.

"A serious case of misconduct. The bullying involved violence, shouting & swearing, mocking, belittling & humiliating behaviour & ostracism. "It also included an unwanted incident of sexual misconduct, when complainant was trapped in hotel room in Madrid: indecent exposure."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8je4upW0AA4ZyN?format=png&name=900x900

[grunt]

Bone's statement:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8jY0wMWcAEKDSW?format=jpg&name=medium

[Bostonhibby]

Bone's statement:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8jY0wMWcAEKDSW?format=jpg&name=mediumTories being Tories, no contrition, pissed off at getting caught and now also a victim.

I think that's 22 currently guilty of assorted offences and that is in a culture that is generally about cover up

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[Hibrandenburg]

Tories being Tories, no contrition, pissed off at getting caught and now also a victim.

I think that's 22 currently guilty of assorted offences and that is in a culture that is generally about cover up

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I was about to say that historically the Tories aren't very good at getting their rotten members out, but that would just lead to another debate about semantics.

[Bostonhibby]

I was about to say that historically the Tories aren't very good at getting their rotten members out, but that would just lead to another debate about semantics.Nonsense, several of them are where they are because of exuberance in the getting their members out department, and they've had the balls to return Bozo as a leader despite his rather free and easy approach to where it comes out, when and with whom.

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[grunt]

Headline is missing the word "lying".

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8nuPRVW0AAMRxe?format=jpg&name=medium

[grunt]

Tory by-election candidate in Tamworth said out-of-work parents struggling to feed kids should 'f*** off'

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8pqtzbWEAIoAvZ?format=jpg&name=medium

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8oalvuXoAA4Vpo?format=jpg&name=medium

[MKHIBEE]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8oalvuXoAA4Vpo?format=jpg&name=medium
He’s an amateur says Baronness Michele Mone.

[Bostonhibby]

He’s an amateur says Baronness Michele Mone.Mere distractions, here's where the real money was made, our chancellor at the times decisions seemingly making real money for his former boss.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/kwasi-kwarteng-crispin-odey-government-bonds-profit/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/kwasi-kwartengs-ex-boss-crispin-odey-bet-big-on-falling-pound-weeks-after-lunch-with-him-rl57tt36f

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[MKHIBEE]

Mere distractions, here's where the real money was made, our chancellor at the times decisions seemingly making real money for his former boss.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/kwasi-kwarteng-crispin-odey-government-bonds-profit/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/kwasi-kwartengs-ex-boss-crispin-odey-bet-big-on-falling-pound-weeks-after-lunch-with-him-rl57tt36f

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No doubt that is the small tip of a very large iceberg.

[grunt]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/19/sunaks-covid-startup-fund-invested-nearly-2m-in-firms-linked-to-his-wife#:~:text=Rishi%20Sunak's%20controversial%20fun d%20to,wife%2C%20Guardian%20analysis%20has%20found

Rishi Sunak’s controversial fund to support startups during the Covid pandemic invested nearly £2m in companies linked to his wife, Guardian analysis has found.

Carousel Ventures, a company part-owned by Akshata Murty’s venture capital firm, got an investment of £250,000 from the Future Fund to help fund its ownership of a luxury underwear business called Heist Studios, it can be disclosed.

It is the fourth business linked to Murty revealed to have received an investment from the fund set up by Sunak to support startups when he was chancellor during the Covid pandemic.

None of Murty’s investments that benefited from the Future Fund appear publicly on Sunak’s register of ministerial interests. Critics have raised concerns over a lack of transparency and the potential for a perceived conflict of interest given Sunak launched the scheme to help startups – a sector in which his wife is a known investor.

[Kato]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/19/sunaks-covid-startup-fund-invested-nearly-2m-in-firms-linked-to-his-wife#:~:text=Rishi%20Sunak's%20controversial%20fun d%20to,wife%2C%20Guardian%20analysis%20has%20found

Rishi Sunak’s controversial fund to support startups during the Covid pandemic invested nearly £2m in companies linked to his wife, Guardian analysis has found.

Carousel Ventures, a company part-owned by Akshata Murty’s venture capital firm, got an investment of £250,000 from the Future Fund to help fund its ownership of a luxury underwear business called Heist Studios, it can be disclosed.

It is the fourth business linked to Murty revealed to have received an investment from the fund set up by Sunak to support startups when he was chancellor during the Covid pandemic.

None of Murty’s investments that benefited from the Future Fund appear publicly on Sunak’s register of ministerial interests. Critics have raised concerns over a lack of transparency and the potential for a perceived conflict of interest given Sunak launched the scheme to help startups – a sector in which his wife is a known investor.Am not sure how controversial this is, tbh. The people who don't vote for them know they are grasping, greedy guts, the people who do vote for them know they are grasping, greedy guts, all sides of the house know they are grasping, greedy guts and the parliamentary authorities know they are grasping, greedy guts. But here we are with a tone of gravitas on the news as the leader of the grasping, greedy gutsies lands in the middle east for photo op.

Nothing is going to happen and those who point it out in public aren't given oxygen. Carte Blanche given to a group of people who think it's just normal, because it is.

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[MKHIBEE]

Am not sure how controversial this is, tbh. The people who don't vote for them know they are grasping, greedy guts, the people who do vote for them know they are grasping, greedy guts, all sides of the house know they are grasping, greedy guts and the parliamentary authorities know they are grasping, greedy guts. But here we are with a tone of gravitas on the news as the leader of the grasping, greedy gutsies lands in the middle east for photo op.

Nothing is going to happen and those who point it out in public aren't given oxygen. Carte Blanche given to a group of people who think it's just normal, because it is.

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Corruption and self entitlement are rife among our political charges, everybody knows it, some care, some don’t, nothing will be done about it. But you try and claim a benefit by mistake and the weight of the system will fall upon you.

[Hibrandenburg]

Corruption and self entitlement are rife among our political charges, everybody knows it, some care, some don’t, nothing will be done about it. But you try and claim a benefit by mistake and the weight of the system will fall upon you.

They'll get their comeuppance at the ballot box, they got ripped last night, even though there still seems to be an appetite for right wing parties. Would explain why Starmer is dragging Labour right.

[MKHIBEE]

They'll get their comeuppance at the ballot box, they got ripped last night, even though there still seems to be an appetite for right wing parties. Would explain why Starmer is dragging Labour right.
I’m struggling to see how things are going to change to any great degree under Starmer, an inability to tackle the root cause of the problems we face is the issue with both parties.

[Hibrandenburg]

I’m struggling to see how things are going to change to any great degree under Starmer, an inability to tackle the root cause of the problems we face is the issue with both parties.

I'm not a fan of Starmer, but there's no way he will put up with the blatant corruption we've seen the last few years. That alone is a huge step in the right direction.

[grunt]

A bit of fun

https://x.com/edcmpbl/status/1715256320708747602?s=20

[grunt]

So, Lisa Cameron, how are you feeling now you've crossed to the lying Tory benches? Are you happy?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F80Ck62X0AAU1KI?format=jpg&name=medium

[Northernhibee]

So, Lisa Cameron, how are you feeling now you've crossed to the lying Tory benches? Are you happy?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F80Ck62X0AAU1KI?format=jpg&name=medium

Tories don't become Tories because they're happy. Quite the opposite.

[Ozyhibby]

So, Lisa Cameron, how are you feeling now you've crossed to the lying Tory benches? Are you happy?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F80Ck62X0AAU1KI?format=jpg&name=medium

She’ll be quite content knowing her place in the Lords awaits.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Jeez this can't be on surely, closed for meeting

https://twitter.com/KevinASchofield/status/1715349981752619104


Kevin Schofield
@KevinASchofield
SCOOP: BBC director general Tim Davie will address the next meeting of the 1922 Committee of Tory backbenchers.

To say this is highly unusual would be an understatement

[Stairway 2 7]

Funny set of clips from 96. Tories saying the by-election tells us nothing about the next election as Labour vote went done and other saying there seems to be no appetite for Blair. No sure how that went for them

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1715419835230753051

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/391581220_2158183204386786_3257033434005199463_n.j pg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=ozGtw7ItNVcAX9iiHFt&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfAAfiz3lAHQ_rv0y1YBl0ZEz-0_HQEJO53qJEx3IUsy1w&oe=65389131

[grunt]

Lying Tories succeed in making life worse for millions

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9MC0VAXUAAt4rf?format=jpg&name=medium

[Ozyhibby]

Lying Tories succeed in making life worse for millions

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9MC0VAXUAAt4rf?format=jpg&name=medium

How do Scottish figures compare? Would be interesting to see if child payment having an effect?


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[Ozyhibby]

How do Scottish figures compare? Would be interesting to see if child payment having an effect?


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https://x.com/conor_matchett/status/1716716238729019693?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

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[Moulin Yarns]

How do Scottish figures compare? Would be interesting to see if child payment having an effect?


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https://news.stv.tv/scotland/scotland-sees-by-far-the-lowest-rise-in-destitution-levels-in-uk



While destitution had increased in all regions of the UK over the period 2019 to 2022, the report found Scotland’s position had improved “with by far the lowest increase since 2019”.

It added: “This may be indicative of the growing divergence in welfare benefits policies in Scotland, notably the introduction of the Scottish Child Payment.”

The benefit, which was introduced in Scotland in 2021, gives £25 per child under 16 a week to eligible low-income families.

[grunt]

Today's Joseph Rowntree Foundation report on the current state of destitution in the UK doesn't seem to have been reported on the BBC. At least, I can't find it. Tell me the one about the BBC being an impartial news broadcaster again.

[grunt]

Good to see the Lying Tory liars acting on the key issues facing the country.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67206997

[grunt]

No cost of living crisis here ...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/top-tory-james-cleverly-spends-31260648


James Cleverly spends £1million travelling globe on private jet like pop star

[grunt]

Mr. Hunt seems a nice man.

https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1716918477595001084?s=61&t=-BLvE2XlsyxZYcSjKNkxtg

[Stairway 2 7]

Mr. Hunt seems a nice man.

https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1716918477595001084?s=61&t=-BLvE2XlsyxZYcSjKNkxtg

Rivers of blood, what a bigot

[grunt]

After a year as PM, how is lying Tory liar Rishi Sunak doing in the polls?

Not so well it seems.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9R19E-XMAAKbz4?format=jpg&name=large

[grunt]

I expect the SNP voters who elected Lisa Cameron are pleased with her first action as the new Tory MP for East Kilbride:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9KqhcXWsAAZ7YO?format=jpg&name=medium

[grunt]

Ian Dunt, often disappointing when displaying his ignorance of Scottish politics, nonetheless on the nose with his appraisal of Sunak's year as PM:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9RXgcBWcAExky9?format=jpg&name=medium

[overdrive]

Senior Tory MP arrested for rape and possession of controlled substances. In his 60s.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67233090

https://news.sky.com/story/senior-tory-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-possession-of-controlled-substances-12993261

[grunt]

Senior Tory MP arrested for rape and possession of controlled substances. In his 60s.
Shocked. :shocked:

[Hibrandenburg]

Senior Tory MP arrested for rape and possession of controlled substances. In his 60s.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67233090

https://news.sky.com/story/senior-tory-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-possession-of-controlled-substances-12993261

Surrey has 11 MP's, all of them Tories but only nine of them men. There's a few big names amongst them too. Wonder which one of them has been caught. The controlled substances would suggest it's Mr Creepy.

https://mycouncil.surreycc.gov.uk/mgMemberIndexMP.aspx

[grunt]

Surrey has 11 MP's, all of them Tories but only nine of them men. There's a few big names amongst them too. Wonder which one of them has been caught. The controlled substances would suggest it's Mr Creepy.
:agree:

[Hibrandenburg]

:agree:

I'm sure we'll find out who it is when the tent goes up.

[grunt]

I'm sure we'll find out who it is when the tent goes up.Blunt has put his hand up to being arrested. Not guilty of course.

[Stairway 2 7]

Blunt has put his hand up to being arrested. Not guilty of course.

He could say that for rape but not sure how he explains away the substances

[cabbageandribs1875]

Blunt voted against making Upskirting a crime

he also defended Tory MP Imran Khan who was found guilty of sexually assaulting a 15 year old

then he withdrew his statement and apologised

[Bostonhibby]

Tories MP's being tories.

https://x.com/AndyGJBurge/status/1717606525751955505?t=yDVe1WCuLn-I8NG9i1GXOA&s=08

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[Just Alf]

They could really do with getting on with their actual day job

BBC News - NHS waits could exceed eight million by summer, charity says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-67228043

[grunt]

They could really do with getting on with their actual day job

BBC News - NHS waits could exceed eight million by summer, charity says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-67228043Their day job - as they see it - is to make the NHS worse so that people go private, thus helping their friends and donors who are promoting private healthcare and health insurance.

[MKHIBEE]

Their day job - as they see it - is to make the NHS worse so that people go private, thus helping their friends and donors who are promoting private healthcare and health insurance.

I would argue it’s to make the NHS unfit for purpose, a road it’s already goin down, so privatising it is the “ sensible” option. Cue MP’s earning £millions more ( collectively) from healthcare companies.

[McD]

Blunt voted against making Upskirting a crime

he also defended Tory MP Imran Khan who was found guilty of sexually assaulting a 15 year old

then he withdrew his statement and apologised



Anyone who votes against this kind of thing should be forced to go in front of their constituents, in person, and explain why they’ve voted against it

[Bostonhibby]

Anyone who votes against this kind of thing should be forced to go in front of their constituents, in person, and explain why they’ve voted against itIn the case of this oddball, it was probably on his local manifesto otherwise they'd never have voted for him[emoji6]

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[Stairway 2 7]

The directors of a firm who gave the tories £2 million, were convicted of money laundering and VAT offences. UK repeatedly refused to investigate.

https://twitter.com/HeidilBlake/status/1717943007821865086

[grunt]

The directors of a firm who gave the tories £2 million, were convicted of money laundering and VAT offences. UK repeatedly refused to investigate.

https://twitter.com/HeidilBlake/status/1717943007821865086This lying Tory Government is a crime syndicate with control over the laws, the regulators, the police and the media. I honestly believe many of them deserve to be imprisoned.

The Lycamobile story is here in just 8 tweets: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1717943007821865086.html

[wookie70]

This lying Tory Government is a crime syndicate with control over the laws, the regulators, the police and the media. I honestly believe many of them deserve to be imprisoned.

The Lycamobile story is here in just 8 tweets: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1717943007821865086.html Shock that the Royals get a mention too

[grunt]

Lying Tory MP Paul Bristow sacked from government job (he was PPS for DCMS) after breaking ranks to publicly urge Rishi Sunak to push for a “permanent ceasefire” in Gaza.

Pressure on Sunak to hold the line.

[MKHIBEE]

Lying Tory MP Paul Bristow sacked from government job (he was PPS for DCMS) after breaking ranks to publicly urge Rishi Sunak to push for a “permanent ceasefire” in Gaza.

Pressure on Sunak to hold the line.

There are plenty of Pro Palestinian supporters who are losing their jobs because of their stance.

[grunt]

I see that lying Tory Prime Miniature Sunak is doing a live chat with Elon Musk after his AI summit on Thursday ... :confused:

[grunt]

There's so much lying Tory rubbish around it's hard to keep up.

Here's Home Sec Fascist Braverman criticising and wanting police action against marchers who are "deliberately operating beneath the criminal threshold". I.e. acting legally.

https://x.com/SkyNews/status/1719004073163452558?s=20

[MKHIBEE]

There's so much lying Tory rubbish around it's hard to keep up.

Here's Home Sec Fascist Braverman criticising and wanting police action against marchers who are "deliberately operating beneath the criminal threshold". I.e. acting legally.

https://x.com/SkyNews/status/1719004073163452558?s=20
Anti semitism has become a byword for support for the Palestinians for some time now. All part of the attempt to dehumanise the Palestinians.

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/tbo39515440/status/1719209397732225301?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

Everyone in England should do this.[emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]


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[grunt]

https://t.co/Sso2qRCQMB

The UK's current account deficit widened to £78.3 billion or 3.1% of gross domestic product (GDP) in 2022, up from £10.8 billion or 0.5% of GDP in 2021. This is the second largest current account deficit of the economies in the G7 in 2022.

The UK's net investment income deficit widened to £32.5 billion in 2022, up from £22.0 billion in 2021. This is the largest net investment income deficit since records began in 1997.

[Kato]

https://t.co/Sso2qRCQMB

The UK's current account deficit widened to £78.3 billion or 3.1% of gross domestic product (GDP) in 2022, up from £10.8 billion or 0.5% of GDP in 2021. This is the second largest current account deficit of the economies in the G7 in 2022.

The UK's net investment income deficit widened to £32.5 billion in 2022, up from £22.0 billion in 2021. This is the largest net investment income deficit since records began in 1997.Jeez, I wonder what chaos with Ed Milliband looks like.

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[grunt]

Jeez, I wonder what chaos with Ed Milliband looks like.

Indeed. Has anyone seen this ONS report featured in the BBC or other media? Thought not.

[Hibrandenburg]

https://t.co/Sso2qRCQMB

The UK's current account deficit widened to £78.3 billion or 3.1% of gross domestic product (GDP) in 2022, up from £10.8 billion or 0.5% of GDP in 2021. This is the second largest current account deficit of the economies in the G7 in 2022.

The UK's net investment income deficit widened to £32.5 billion in 2022, up from £22.0 billion in 2021. This is the largest net investment income deficit since records began in 1997.

Someone will be along in a minute to point out our economy is safe because we've got high employment or something and then back it up by googling FACTS to support their narrative.

[Moulin Yarns]

Someone will be along in a minute to point out our economy is safe because we've got high employment or something and then back it up by googling FACTS to support their narrative.

I don't know what you mean!! 😉

[Stairway 2 7]

Someone will be along in a minute to point out our economy is safe because we've got high employment or something and then back it up by googling FACTS to support their narrative.

Passive aggressive much ha. Your best best is to put a hedge bet on the economy. There's markets for it and if we go in recession you'll be quids in, I'm confident you will do that or not perhaps

[Moulin Yarns]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Stairway 2 7]

Tories find an kindred spirit in Austrias bigoted government, thankfully Labour will end this crap before it starts

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/02/austria-seeks-to-adopt-uk-rwanda-style-plan-for-asylum-seekers

Austria is seeking to adopt a Rwanda-style deal to deport asylum seekers to a third country, having agreed a deal to work with the UK on migration

[MKHIBEE]

Tories find an kindred spirit in Austrias bigoted government, thankfully Labour will end this crap before it starts

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/02/austria-seeks-to-adopt-uk-rwanda-style-plan-for-asylum-seekers

Austria is seeking to adopt a Rwanda-style deal to deport asylum seekers to a third country, having agreed a deal to work with the UK on migration
What makes you think Labour will “ end this crap”.?

[Stairway 2 7]

What makes you think Labour will “ end this crap”.?

They have said they will at the conference.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/labour/2023/10/keir-starmer-pledges-to-reverse-rwanda-scheme-even-if-declared-legal
Keir Starmer pledges to reverse Rwanda scheme even if declared legal
The Labour leader’s announcement opens up a clear dividing line with the Conservatives on immigration.

[Stairway 2 7]

Good report from Sam Coates of sky on the bizarre belly rub Sunak gave to Elon Musk. UK lifting its skirt trying to entice a billionaire is pathetic and have a section talking about James Cameron movies some up the seriousness of our government

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1720189979660353696

[MKHIBEE]

They have said they will at the conference.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/labour/2023/10/keir-starmer-pledges-to-reverse-rwanda-scheme-even-if-declared-legal
Keir Starmer pledges to reverse Rwanda scheme even if declared legal
The Labour leader’s announcement opens up a clear dividing line with the Conservatives on immigration.

Starmer says a lot of things that will never come to pass. It’s a question of believe it if I see it happen. What’s he going to do about the tens of thousands other immigrants we have to contend with? Not kicking out 200 hardly constitutes a clear dividing line between Labour and the Conservatives.

[Stairway 2 7]

Starmer says a lot of things that will never come to pass. It’s a question of believe it if I see it happen. What’s he going to do about the tens of thousands other immigrants we have to contend with? Not kicking out 200 hardly constitutes a clear dividing line between Labour and the Conservatives.

I'd bet he won't backtrack on Rwanda it's an easy win as its never going to happen in a million years anyway. What do you mean by what's he going to go with the other 10s of thousands, probably nothing like the tories. Do you want them out, I'm personally all for them.

Tories are all performance. Pretend they are strict on immigration by announcing Rwanda but bring in record number of immigration year on year 600k net last year, an unbelievably large number when you think about it.

When our crap trade deal with India happens it will come with mass immigration from India, which is also great.

Labour will be the same pretend to be tough on boats but have mass immigration. 1.1 million entered the uk legally ONS expect net migration to be 500k plus this year and next. The political class wants cheap labour whilst pretending to be against immigration

[Moulin Yarns]

Tories find an kindred spirit in Austrias bigoted government, thankfully Labour will end this crap before it starts

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/02/austria-seeks-to-adopt-uk-rwanda-style-plan-for-asylum-seekers

Austria is seeking to adopt a Rwanda-style deal to deport asylum seekers to a third country, having agreed a deal to work with the UK on migration

Last paragraph, maybe the plan is to send them to the UK so suella can send them to Rwanda as she is so successful. 😂

[Stairway 2 7]

On positive immigration news the tories and Labour are travelling further from the public who are becoming more pro immigration year on year. The European Social Survey that happens every two years shows the UK has one of the most pro immigration populations in Europe. It also shows people have become dramatically more pro immigration in the last 20 years.

Demographic changes will push this further as the years go on. Racism is heavily weighted to the oldest generation

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/03/most-british-people-hold-positive-view-of-immigration-survey-reveals

Most British people hold positive view of immigration, survey reveals
Although Tories claim curbing net inflow of migrants is critical issue for voters, poll shows attitudes have evolved significantly

[grunt]

Totally normal behaviour (for a fascist Government).

https://inews.co.uk/news/government-prepared-secret-dossier-academics-blm-2730858


The Government prepared a secret dossier on an academic’s social media posts supporting transgender rights, Black Lives Matter, lecturer strikes and criticisms of No 10 amid a free speech row with universities, i can reveal.

i has seen an 11-page internal Government dossier cataloguing three years’ worth of one academic’s posts on X, formerly Twitter, alongside their likes, retweets, academic literature and events they are due to host in the coming months.

[degenerated]

Starmer says a lot of things that will never come to pass. It’s a question of believe it if I see it happen. What’s he going to do about the tens of thousands other immigrants we have to contend with? Not kicking out 200 hardly constitutes a clear dividing line between Labour and the Conservatives.He unsays just as much as he says. 27348

[grunt]

Another example of this lying Tory Government shouting their mouth off about a new policy without providing any support to implementing or delivering it.

https://inews.co.uk/news/american-bully-ban-collapse-police-overwhelmed-vets-kennels-2727740

[Ozyhibby]

Another example of this lying Tory Government shouting their mouth off about a new policy without providing any support to implementing or delivering it.

https://inews.co.uk/news/american-bully-ban-collapse-police-overwhelmed-vets-kennels-2727740

Government by announcement.


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[grunt]

Michelle Mone admits involvement with ‘VIP lane’ PPE company

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/06/michelle-mone-admits-involvement-with-vip-lane-ppe-company?CMP=share_btn_tw

Also, the Government knew:
“Both Doug Barrowman and his wife, Baroness Mone, made a full written disclosure of their involvement to the Cabinet Office prior to the award of the PPE contracts,” he said. “The UK government was fully aware of Mr Barrowman’s role and that his group would make a commercial profit.”

[Col2]

Starmers speech in HOC on kings speech was impressive. He dissected Sunak and Braverman who looked very uncomfortable. Then Sunak follows up with his own speech, trying to tell jokes, cringe level 10.

We are near to the end of this government . They have given up.

[Bostonhibby]

Michelle Mone admits involvement with ‘VIP lane’ PPE company

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/06/michelle-mone-admits-involvement-with-vip-lane-ppe-company?CMP=share_btn_tw

Also, the Government knew:Liars finally resort to the truth when they are in a corner with nowhere else to go after the initial persistent denials?

What a killing they have made from the UK taxpayers.

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[Ozyhibby]

Liars finally resort to the truth when they are in a corner with nowhere else to go after the initial persistent denials?

What a killing they have made from the UK taxpayers.

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That’s the system we have and there is no sign of it changing. Suck it up.[emoji106]


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[Bostonhibby]

That’s the system we have and there is no sign of it changing. Suck it up.[emoji106]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYep, as I seem to have said many times on here, they're laughing at the rest of us mugs.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Top officials called Johnson’s No 10 ‘mad’ and ‘poisonous’, Covid inquiry hears | Covid inquiry | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/07/top-officials-call-boris-johnson-no-10-mad-and-poisonous-covid-inquiry-hears)


The two most senior civil servants in the UK exchanged messages describing those inside Boris Johnson’s Downing Street as “poisonous”, “mad” and unfit to run the country, the Covid inquiry has heard.

“I’ve never seen a bunch of people less well-equipped to run a country,” Simon Case, then head official in the Cabinet Office, wrote in July 2020 to Mark Sedwill, the cabinet secretary.

i doubt he's ever witnessed such a crooked corrupt Tory party either

[MKHIBEE]

Top officials called Johnson’s No 10 ‘mad’ and ‘poisonous’, Covid inquiry hears | Covid inquiry | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/07/top-officials-call-boris-johnson-no-10-mad-and-poisonous-covid-inquiry-hears)


The two most senior civil servants in the UK exchanged messages describing those inside Boris Johnson’s Downing Street as “poisonous”, “mad” and unfit to run the country, the Covid inquiry has heard.

“I’ve never seen a bunch of people less well-equipped to run a country,” Simon Case, then head official in the Cabinet Office, wrote in July 2020 to Mark Sedwill, the cabinet secretary.

i doubt he's ever witnessed such a crooked corrupt Tory party either

Nothing there some of us didn’t already know.

[Kato]

Nothing there some of us didn’t already know.It's being "revealed" as though it's some shocking secret, its not. People saw he was inept at almost everything other than lying in the 00's.

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[lapsedhibee]

It's being "revealed" as though it's some shocking secret, its not. People saw he was inept at almost everything other than lying in the 00's.


Not quite everything. Johnson was very ept at winning FPTP elections, not just by lying but also by being such a great person to go down the pub with. If it wasn't for his party's belief in his election winning capability he'd have been booted for lying long before he was. And we'd have had Truss much earlier.

[Kato]

Not quite everything. Johnson was very ept at winning FPTP elections, not just by lying but also by being such a great person to go down the pub with. If it wasn't for his party's belief in his election winning capability he'd have been booted for lying long before he was. And we'd have had Truss much earlier.Did he ever end up going down the pub with anybody who thought he'd be a great guy to go down the pub with?

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[McSwanky]

Did he ever end up going down the pub with anybody who thought he'd be a great guy to go down the pub with?

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I happen to think he'd be a really really **** person to go to the pub with. Maybe it's just me?

[Kato]

I happen to think he'd be a really really **** person to go to the pub with. Maybe it's just me?I'd like to meet him in the Iona before a game.

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[ACLeith]

I happen to think he'd be a really really **** person to go to the pub with. Maybe it's just me?

He'd lie to avoid buying his round

[Hibby70]

He'd lie to avoid buying his round

He'd just hide in the cellar

[JimBHibees]

Not quite everything. Johnson was very ept at winning FPTP elections, not just by lying but also by being such a great person to go down the pub with. If it wasn't for his party's belief in his election winning capability he'd have been booted for lying long before he was. And we'd have had Truss much earlier.

Genuinely couldn’t think of a worse person to go for pint with

[Jack]

Did he ever end up going down the pub with anybody who thought he'd be a great guy to go down the pub with?

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It was all a fallacy, part of the lie that was Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson.

There's no way he would have gone to the local pub to drink with the unwashed plebs. After he was in one for a photo opportunity he probably threw his shoes away so as not to contaminate his chauffeur driven limousine.

[s.a.m]

It was all a fallacy, part of the lie that was Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson.

There's no way he would have gone to the local pub to drink with the unwashed plebs. After he was in one for a photo opportunity he probably threw his shoes away so as not to contaminate his chauffeur driven limousine.

I realise that in the scheme of things it's probably the least important one, but that thing about him not even being called Boris - and is actually known as Alex or Al to people who know him - sums up his whole act. It's a stage name, to go with the deliberately unruly hair, and the 'amiably befuddled but brilliant[...]' stage persona he's constructed. Somebody (maybe Jeremy Vine, who has been a bit of a fanboy) describes an event he was at, waiting for Johnson to speak. He turns up late, ruffled and amusingly confused about which event he's at, pulls a hilarious speech out of nowhere, cracks some joke about farmyard animals - and he thought he was brilliant and said so. At a later date, he was at another event, and the exact same thing happened. Same chain of events, same 'confusion' about the event, exact same 'impromptu' speech, same gags.

He's a con-man, and it's striking that even folk you would expect to be on his side who have worked with or employed him say he's a sly, vindictive, lazy, untrustworthy *******. I remember when Trump called him "Britain Trump", and at the time I thought he was incompetent and awful but not nearly as extreme in his awfulness as Trump. I was wrong.

[lapsedhibee]

Somebody (maybe Jeremy Vine, who has been a bit of a fanboy) describes an event he was at, waiting for Johnson to speak. He turns up late, ruffled and amusingly confused about which event he's at, pulls a hilarious speech out of nowhere, cracks some joke about farmyard animals - and he thought he was brilliant and said so. At a later date, he was at another event, and the exact same thing happened. Same chain of events, same 'confusion' about the event, exact same 'impromptu' speech, same gags.

Pretty sure I heard Vine describe all that, but afterwards, instead of properly calling him out for it, he seemed even more of a Johnson fanboy. BBC in its entirety should take a lot of the blame for Johnson.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Nothing there some of us didn’t already know.


this is far more detailed piece of this Tory Government, it's brilliant

Thread by @RussInCheshire on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1721927752863846681.html?fbclid=IwAR3C9OZHNHCs5NuO YdrWoZ4sxgCh3wnTmZtGzEIlVBMz0UQTvJWXT80CovY)


i truly despise every single individual that will still vote Tory

[cabbageandribs1875]

another post i read elsewhere earlier

This Tory Government has enriched its sponsors, supporters, donors, family, friends and the private sector pockets from the public taxpayer purse.

This isnt a government its a crime syndicate .....

"£252m of public money given to Ayanda Capital, registered in Mauritius for tax dodging, to supply PPE that never appeared.

£186m of public money given to Uniserve Ltd of Essex, the UK’s largest privately owned logistics and global trade management company, to supply PPE that never appeared.

£116m of public money given to P14 Medical Ltd of Liverpool, which had liabilities exceeding assets by £485,000 in December 2019 with just £145 in the bank, for PPE that never appeared.

£108m of public money given to PestFix, with 16 employees and net assets of £19,000, for PPE that never appeared.

£14.2m and a subsequent £93.2m of public money given to Clandeboye Agencies Ltd, a confectionery wholesaler in Co Antrim, for PPE that never appeared.

£40m of public money given to Medicine Box Ltd of Sutton-in-Ashfield, despite having assets of just £6,000 in March, for PPE that never appeared.

£32m and a subsequent £16m of public money given to Initia Ventures Ltd, filed for dormancy in January this year, for PPE that never appeared.

£28m of public money given to Monarch Acoustics Ltd of Nottingham, makers of shop and office furniture, for PPE that never appeared.

£25m of public money given to Luxe Lifestyle Ltd, to supply garments for biological or chemical protection to the NHS. According to Companies House, the business was incorporated by fashion designer Karen Brost in November 2018. It appears to have no employees, no assets and no turnover.

£18.4m of public money given to Aventis Solutions Ltd of Wilmslow, with just £322 in assets, for PPE that never appeared.

£10m of public money given to Medco Solutions Ltd, incorporated on 26 March (three days after lockdown) with a share capital of just £2, for PPE that never appeared.

£1.1m of public money given to Bristol shoemaker Toffeln Ltd, had seemingly never supplied any PPE whatsoever in the past, for PPE that never appeared.

£825,000 of public money given to MGP Advisory, described as a venture and development capital business that was in danger of being struck off the companies register for failing to file accounts, for no one knows what...
Good Law Project is able to reveal the names of four more companies awarded contracts through the VIP lane: Clandeboye Agencies, P14 Medical, Luxe Lifestyle and Meller Designs.

P14 Medical, run by a Tory councillor and donor, was awarded £276m in PPE contracts.

Meller Designs, run by David Meller a large Tory donor and trustee of the rightwing lobby group Policy Exchange, was given more than £160m in PPE contracts.

Luxe Lifestyle was awarded a £26m contract despite appearing to be insolvent and without any employees.

And Clandeboye Agencies whose registered trade on Companies House is “wholesale of sugar, chocolate and sugar confectionery” was awarded £108m in PPE contracts We should say that the Government says Clandeboye was not in the VIP lane – but its own internal documents tell a different story.

They're asset stripping the UK, it's theft on a massive scale.This Tory Government has enriched its sponsors, supporters, donors, family, friends and the private sector pockets from the public taxpayer purse.This isnt a government its a crime syndicate .....

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"£252m of public money given to Ayanda Capital, registered in Mauritius for tax dodging, to supply PPE that never appeared.


£186m of public money given to Uniserve Ltd of Essex, the UK’s largest privately owned logistics and global trade management company, to supply PPE that never appeared.


£116m of public money given to P14 Medical Ltd of Liverpool, which had liabilities exceeding assets by £485,000 in December 2019 with just £145 in the bank, for PPE that never appeared.


£108m of public money given to PestFix, with 16 employees and net assets of £19,000, for PPE that never appeared.


£14.2m and a subsequent £93.2m of public money given to Clandeboye Agencies Ltd, a confectionery wholesaler in Co Antrim, for PPE that never appeared.


£40m of public money given to Medicine Box Ltd of Sutton-in-Ashfield, despite having assets of just £6,000 in March, for PPE that never appeared.


£32m and a subsequent £16m of public money given to Initia Ventures Ltd, filed for dormancy in January this year, for PPE that never appeared.


£28m of public money given to Monarch Acoustics Ltd of Nottingham, makers of shop and office furniture, for PPE that never appeared.


£25m of public money given to Luxe Lifestyle Ltd, to supply garments for biological or chemical protection to the NHS. According to Companies House, the business was incorporated by fashion designer Karen Brost in November 2018. It appears to have no employees, no assets and no turnover.


£18.4m of public money given to Aventis Solutions Ltd of Wilmslow, with just £322 in assets, for PPE that never appeared.


£10m of public money given to Medco Solutions Ltd, incorporated on 26 March (three days after lockdown) with a share capital of just £2, for PPE that never appeared.


£1.1m of public money given to Bristol shoemaker Toffeln Ltd, had seemingly never supplied any PPE whatsoever in the past, for PPE that never appeared.


£825,000 of public money given to MGP Advisory, described as a venture and development capital business that was in danger of being struck off the companies register for failing to file accounts, for no one knows what...
Good Law Project is able to reveal the names of four more companies awarded contracts through the VIP lane: Clandeboye Agencies, P14 Medical, Luxe Lifestyle and Meller Designs.


P14 Medical, run by a Tory councillor and donor, was awarded £276m in PPE contracts.


Meller Designs, run by David Meller a large Tory donor and trustee of the rightwing lobby group Policy Exchange, was given more than £160m in PPE contracts.


Luxe Lifestyle was awarded a £26m contract despite appearing to be insolvent and without any employees.


And Clandeboye Agencies whose registered trade on Companies House is “wholesale of sugar, chocolate and sugar confectionery” was awarded £108m in PPE contracts We should say that the Government says Clandeboye was not in the VIP lane – but its own internal documents tell a different story.

They're asset stripping the UK, it's theft on a massive scale.

[Kato]

another post i read elsewhere earlier

This Tory Government has enriched its sponsors, supporters, donors, family, friends and the private sector pockets from the public taxpayer purse.

This isnt a government its a crime syndicate .....

"£252m of public money given to Ayanda Capital, registered in Mauritius for tax dodging, to supply PPE that never appeared.

£186m of public money given to Uniserve Ltd of Essex, the UK’s largest privately owned logistics and global trade management company, to supply PPE that never appeared.

£116m of public money given to P14 Medical Ltd of Liverpool, which had liabilities exceeding assets by £485,000 in December 2019 with just £145 in the bank, for PPE that never appeared.

£108m of public money given to PestFix, with 16 employees and net assets of £19,000, for PPE that never appeared.

£14.2m and a subsequent £93.2m of public money given to Clandeboye Agencies Ltd, a confectionery wholesaler in Co Antrim, for PPE that never appeared.

£40m of public money given to Medicine Box Ltd of Sutton-in-Ashfield, despite having assets of just £6,000 in March, for PPE that never appeared.

£32m and a subsequent £16m of public money given to Initia Ventures Ltd, filed for dormancy in January this year, for PPE that never appeared.

£28m of public money given to Monarch Acoustics Ltd of Nottingham, makers of shop and office furniture, for PPE that never appeared.

£25m of public money given to Luxe Lifestyle Ltd, to supply garments for biological or chemical protection to the NHS. According to Companies House, the business was incorporated by fashion designer Karen Brost in November 2018. It appears to have no employees, no assets and no turnover.

£18.4m of public money given to Aventis Solutions Ltd of Wilmslow, with just £322 in assets, for PPE that never appeared.

£10m of public money given to Medco Solutions Ltd, incorporated on 26 March (three days after lockdown) with a share capital of just £2, for PPE that never appeared.

£1.1m of public money given to Bristol shoemaker Toffeln Ltd, had seemingly never supplied any PPE whatsoever in the past, for PPE that never appeared.

£825,000 of public money given to MGP Advisory, described as a venture and development capital business that was in danger of being struck off the companies register for failing to file accounts, for no one knows what...
Good Law Project is able to reveal the names of four more companies awarded contracts through the VIP lane: Clandeboye Agencies, P14 Medical, Luxe Lifestyle and Meller Designs.

P14 Medical, run by a Tory councillor and donor, was awarded £276m in PPE contracts.

Meller Designs, run by David Meller a large Tory donor and trustee of the rightwing lobby group Policy Exchange, was given more than £160m in PPE contracts.

Luxe Lifestyle was awarded a £26m contract despite appearing to be insolvent and without any employees.

And Clandeboye Agencies whose registered trade on Companies House is “wholesale of sugar, chocolate and sugar confectionery” was awarded £108m in PPE contracts We should say that the Government says Clandeboye was not in the VIP lane – but its own internal documents tell a different story.

They're asset stripping the UK, it's theft on a massive scale.This Tory Government has enriched its sponsors, supporters, donors, family, friends and the private sector pockets from the public taxpayer purse.This isnt a government its a crime syndicate .....

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"£252m of public money given to Ayanda Capital, registered in Mauritius for tax dodging, to supply PPE that never appeared.


£186m of public money given to Uniserve Ltd of Essex, the UK’s largest privately owned logistics and global trade management company, to supply PPE that never appeared.


£116m of public money given to P14 Medical Ltd of Liverpool, which had liabilities exceeding assets by £485,000 in December 2019 with just £145 in the bank, for PPE that never appeared.


£108m of public money given to PestFix, with 16 employees and net assets of £19,000, for PPE that never appeared.


£14.2m and a subsequent £93.2m of public money given to Clandeboye Agencies Ltd, a confectionery wholesaler in Co Antrim, for PPE that never appeared.


£40m of public money given to Medicine Box Ltd of Sutton-in-Ashfield, despite having assets of just £6,000 in March, for PPE that never appeared.


£32m and a subsequent £16m of public money given to Initia Ventures Ltd, filed for dormancy in January this year, for PPE that never appeared.


£28m of public money given to Monarch Acoustics Ltd of Nottingham, makers of shop and office furniture, for PPE that never appeared.


£25m of public money given to Luxe Lifestyle Ltd, to supply garments for biological or chemical protection to the NHS. According to Companies House, the business was incorporated by fashion designer Karen Brost in November 2018. It appears to have no employees, no assets and no turnover.


£18.4m of public money given to Aventis Solutions Ltd of Wilmslow, with just £322 in assets, for PPE that never appeared.


£10m of public money given to Medco Solutions Ltd, incorporated on 26 March (three days after lockdown) with a share capital of just £2, for PPE that never appeared.


£1.1m of public money given to Bristol shoemaker Toffeln Ltd, had seemingly never supplied any PPE whatsoever in the past, for PPE that never appeared.


£825,000 of public money given to MGP Advisory, described as a venture and development capital business that was in danger of being struck off the companies register for failing to file accounts, for no one knows what...
Good Law Project is able to reveal the names of four more companies awarded contracts through the VIP lane: Clandeboye Agencies, P14 Medical, Luxe Lifestyle and Meller Designs.


P14 Medical, run by a Tory councillor and donor, was awarded £276m in PPE contracts.


Meller Designs, run by David Meller a large Tory donor and trustee of the rightwing lobby group Policy Exchange, was given more than £160m in PPE contracts.


Luxe Lifestyle was awarded a £26m contract despite appearing to be insolvent and without any employees.


And Clandeboye Agencies whose registered trade on Companies House is “wholesale of sugar, chocolate and sugar confectionery” was awarded £108m in PPE contracts We should say that the Government says Clandeboye was not in the VIP lane – but its own internal documents tell a different story.

They're asset stripping the UK, it's theft on a massive scale.
How dare you talk the UK down!

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[BroxburnHibee]

Jonathan nails it!

https://youtu.be/dspmCsq7ghw?si=EgH6CWZrzfJyrQzn

[MKHIBEE]

Genuinely couldn’t think of a worse person to go for pint with

it’s a pretty closely packed field for me. Hancock, Braverman, Sunak to name 3

[Hiber-nation]

No 10 didn't approve Braverman's Times article but the PM says he still has every confidence in her.

Now that's leadership.

[Bostonhibby]

No 10 didn't approve Braverman's Times article but the PM says he still has every confidence in her.

Now that's leadership.Well she is telling him what to do in a leadership kind of way.

"The waiter" is just keeping the usual low profile whilst occasionally issuing a vague promise/policy statement

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[SHODAN]

Braverman will be the Tory leader in 2029 and will probably win. Get ready.

[s.a.m]

Jonathan nails it!

https://youtu.be/dspmCsq7ghw?si=EgH6CWZrzfJyrQzn

He makes a good point: she's not like the other populists in the party dog-whistling to the extremists for votes. She is an actual, bona fide, far-right extremist.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Braverman linked to UK’s emergent American-style religious right (yorkshirebylines.co.uk) (https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/politics/braverman-linked-to-uks-emergent-american-style-religious-right/?fbclid=IwAR2VWm4A78FtSeovIaY3YL_aWUt5MaVV4secWolL zykdf2kklUU_Lcw5NO4) article from last year

Braverman linked to UK’s emergent American-style religious right

[Moulin Yarns]

Braverman linked to UK’s emergent American-style religious right (yorkshirebylines.co.uk) (https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/politics/braverman-linked-to-uks-emergent-american-style-religious-right/?fbclid=IwAR2VWm4A78FtSeovIaY3YL_aWUt5MaVV4secWolL zykdf2kklUU_Lcw5NO4) article from last year

Braverman linked to UK’s emergent American-style religious right

Apparently she is a Buddhist!!! Yeah you read this right.

[Kato]

Braverman linked to UK’s emergent American-style religious right (yorkshirebylines.co.uk) (https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/politics/braverman-linked-to-uks-emergent-american-style-religious-right/?fbclid=IwAR2VWm4A78FtSeovIaY3YL_aWUt5MaVV4secWolL zykdf2kklUU_Lcw5NO4) article from last year

Braverman linked to UK’s emergent American-style religious rightNot news really. She was a headline speaker at that National Conservative thingmy last year, a movement full of cranks with imaginary friends in the sky telling them to be racists.

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[Kato]

https://twitter.com/LeeAndersonMP_/status/1721237434111832326?t=9kS2qFX3yzF703qhLPZw2A&s=19

Another day another, you know what.

Does any of them ever say anything remotely resembling the truth?

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[Stairway 2 7]

https://twitter.com/LeeAndersonMP_/status/1721237434111832326?t=9kS2qFX3yzF703qhLPZw2A&s=19

Another day another, you know what.

Does any of them ever say anything remotely resembling the truth?

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I know what it's what he wants but there's no politician that brings me more rage. Reece Moog ect were born to be **** spat out from a long line of **** bags. Anderson is that prick at your work usually a *** that should know better but hits down on the most unfortunate in society to overcome his deep self hatred and anger

[Bostonhibby]

I know what it's what he wants but there's no politician that brings me more rage. Reece Moog ect were born to be **** spat out from a long line of **** bags. Anderson is that prick at your work usually a *** that should know better but hits down on the most unfortunate in society to overcome his deep self hatred and angerHe is a friends MP, he is apparently rarely seen locally, becoming less popular in the constituency but has a bit of a gang around him. It's felt he is focused on building himself some nice little earners and climbing the nasty party ladder, which he seems ideal for.

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[Bristolhibby]

https://twitter.com/LeeAndersonMP_/status/1721237434111832326?t=9kS2qFX3yzF703qhLPZw2A&s=19

Another day another, you know what.

Does any of them ever say anything remotely resembling the truth?

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So has had to apologise and retract his words. Likely knew he was going to get sued and would lose the case.

Total class traitor. An ex miner and son of a miner, lived through the 80s, Labour Party member then jumped ship, and now a caricature of all that is bad in a Tory.

He’ll be booted out at the next election as the people of Ashfield wake up from their Brexit and Johnson infused hypnosis.
J

[lapsedhibee]

He’ll be booted out at the next election as the people of Ashfield wake up from their Brexit and Johnson infused hypnosis.


Is it time to start wondering/a poll/a book on whose loss will be the most appreciated at the next GE? The so-called Portillo moment. Anderson must be in the running, even from such a big field.

[BroxburnHibee]

Braverman will be the Tory leader in 2029 and will probably win. Get ready.

She is trying to get sacked! She knows they will lose the election and will be the far right cheerleader to replace Sunak. Its no coincidence Boris opened his gob this week on Sunak as well,

[BroxburnHibee]

Is it time to start wondering/a poll/a book on whose loss will be the most appreciated at the next GE? The so-called Portillo moment. Anderson must be in the running, even from such a big field.

Great idea - is Reece-Mogg running? Would love to see that smug **** go. Or Gullis, or Cruella. God there's so many to choose from...

[Mibbes Aye]

Is it time to start wondering/a poll/a book on whose loss will be the most appreciated at the next GE? The so-called Portillo moment. Anderson must be in the running, even from such a big field.

To match the Portillo moment, there are a number of criteria that have to be met.

One, a Tory majority that appeared unassailable - I think Portillo was sitting on 15 or 16K

Two, a declaration well into the small hours of the morning - results had been coming in for hours before Portillo.

Thirdly, the sitting Tory has to be senior and of the most odious variety possible. Portillo wasn’t the avuncular chap in plum cords and mustard blazer taking the train from Bucharest to Bratislava for BBC2 in those days. He was a ******* ********* Tory ******* ****..

On that basis I would like to nominate Robert Jenrick. Immigration minister and good all-round smug-faced Tory child-scaring ****.. He resembles nothing so much as a middle-grade Death Star shift leader who even his colleagues loathe.

He is sitting on a majority of 21K but Labour won the seat in 1997. Here’s hoping.

[lapsedhibee]

To match the Portillo moment, there are a number of criteria that have to be met.

One, a Tory majority that appeared unassailable - I think Portillo was sitting on 15 or 16K

Two, a declaration well into the small hours of the morning - results had been coming in for hours before Portillo.

Thirdly, the sitting Tory has to be senior and of the most odious variety possible. Portillo wasn’t the avuncular chap in plum cords and mustard blazer taking the train from Bucharest to Bratislava for BBC2 in those days. He was a ******* ********* Tory ******* ****..

On that basis I would like to nominate Robert Jenrick. Immigration minister and good all-round smug-faced Tory child-scaring ****.. He resembles nothing so much as a middle-grade Death Star shift leader who even his colleagues loathe.

He is sitting on a majority of 21K but Labour won the seat in 1997. Here’s hoping.

Good points. Anderson and Gullis are easily loathable enough, but also nowhere near smug enough, to be true Portillo heirs. Amma nominate panto 'Dame' Andrea Jenkyns even though her majority's only 11,000 odd.

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[Hiber-nation]

To match the Portillo moment, there are a number of criteria that have to be met.

One, a Tory majority that appeared unassailable - I think Portillo was sitting on 15 or 16K

Two, a declaration well into the small hours of the morning - results had been coming in for hours before Portillo.

Thirdly, the sitting Tory has to be senior and of the most odious variety possible. Portillo wasn’t the avuncular chap in plum cords and mustard blazer taking the train from Bucharest to Bratislava for BBC2 in those days. He was a ******* ********* Tory ******* ****..

On that basis I would like to nominate Robert Jenrick. Immigration minister and good all-round smug-faced Tory child-scaring ****.. He resembles nothing so much as a middle-grade Death Star shift leader who even his colleagues loathe.

He is sitting on a majority of 21K but Labour won the seat in 1997. Here’s hoping.

Can't quite decide on the malt to have when it happens. Will see what Santa brings.

This is already up there with the birth of my grand-daughter in March as a major highlight of 2024.

[BroxburnHibee]

Can't quite decide on the malt to have when it happens. Will see what Santa brings.

This is already up there with the birth of my grand-daughter in March as a major highlight of 2024.

It could be January 2025 apparently

[silverhibee]

Is it time to start wondering/a poll/a book on whose loss will be the most appreciated at the next GE? The so-called Portillo moment. Anderson must be in the running, even from such a big field.

Gullis

[silverhibee]

Is it time to start wondering/a poll/a book on whose loss will be the most appreciated at the next GE? The so-called Portillo moment. Anderson must be in the running, even from such a big field.

Penny Mordaunt

[Jack]

I wonder if anyone could go through the list of current torys and pick a good one they'd want to retain their seat? I'm not sure I could.

[Hiber-nation]

It could be January 2025 apparently

Boooooooo. Got to be next year, they can't cling on that long.

[Kato]

I wonder if anyone could go through the list of current torys and pick a good one they'd want to retain their seat? I'm not sure I could.Nope. If everyone votes tactically they could be down to 30 odd seats. Very odd seats.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/samcoatessky/status/1723050318781456442?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

[emoji102]


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[Just Alf]

https://x.com/samcoatessky/status/1723050318781456442?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

[emoji102]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat's a beauty... is it real? Hopefully is!

[Kato]

https://x.com/samcoatessky/status/1723050318781456442?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

[emoji102]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJeez, there isn't really a govt at the moment then, just rats in a sack.

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[Bostonhibby]

Jeez, there isn't really a govt at the moment then, just rats in a sack.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkHayes is my MP. It's a constituency where the nasties could put up a coffee table as candidate and it would win. He is the hand inside the braverman glove puppet it seems but I'm sure a coffee table would give her similar advice.


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[BroxburnHibee]

Stephen Flynn not singing the national anthem. Whats the betting thats all we'll hear about?

[Hibrandenburg]

Stephen Flynn not singing the national anthem. Whats the betting thats all we'll hear about?

It's already being reported. Apparently he held the wreath upside-down too.

[DaveF]

Stephen Flynn not singing the national anthem. Whats the betting thats all we'll hear about?

Good for him. Someone with principles and sticking to them.

[weecounty hibby]

The Wreath wasn't upside down, and why should he sing the English national anthem. The wreaths from Scotland are different to those from England. Been done so many times in the past and is just another thing to try to to beat Scots with. I laid a wreath at a local war memorial this morning and it was exactly like the one Stephen Flynn had. How dare we not do what England does

[Moulin Yarns]

Braverman sacked in the morning.

[weecounty hibby]

Braverman sacked. One of very few correct decisions made by the Tories

[Moulin Yarns]

Braverman sacked. One of very few correct decisions made by the Tories

Depends on the bampot that is put in place next.

[Ozyhibby]

6th Home Secretary in 14 months incoming.


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[marinello59]

David Cameron has just walked in to number 10. Elevated to Lords and new Foreign Secretary?

[Moulin Yarns]

David Cameron has just walked in to number 10. Elevated to Lords and new Foreign Secretary?


Not right wing enough

Cleverly was seen earlier.

Edit. Cleverly as home secretary and dc as foreign secretary as you said

[Ozyhibby]

David Cameron has just walked in to number 10. Elevated to Lords and new Foreign Secretary?

We don’t even pretend to be a democracy these days.


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[Moulin Yarns]

We don’t even pretend to be a democracy these days.


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To be fair, and I can't believe I'm saying it but, Cameron might be a good option for the post in the current situation.

[Andy Bee]

Cleverley not that impressed with the job apparently, I suppose I wouldn't be either if I had to give up my £46k an hour private jet jaunts around the Caribbean. There's always Sunaks copter jollies he could hitch a ride on although Leeds and Birmingham don't seem to have the same ring to them.

[overdrive]

David Cameron has just walked in to number 10. Elevated to Lords and new Foreign Secretary?

Not a surprise from the corrupt Tory government. No doubt a donor has insisted on this.

[BroxburnHibee]

Would her supporters try and force a leadership now?

[Ozyhibby]

To be fair, and I can't believe I'm saying it but, Cameron might be a good option for the post in the current situation.

It’s not really the point I’m making though. I prefer my government to be elected no matter how objectionable they are.
How are mp’s to question him on his job performance? Where is the accountability?

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[Kato]

To be fair, and I can't believe I'm saying it but, Cameron might be a good option for the post in the current situation.What's his good points. Prime Minister when the Windrush scandal was happening, caved into the right wing wanted an EU membership referendum, introduced the political choice of austerity for the poor while pretending "we are all in this together" and the rich got richer and richer.

He's just the same as the rest of them, a liar who only cares about the few.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Gave us brexit and caused an estimated 500k deaths through austerity, some boy

[greenginger]

It’s not really the point I’m making though. I prefer my government to be elected no matter how objectionable they are.
How are mp’s to question him on his job performance? Where is the accountability?

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It wouldn’t be unique.

lord Mandelson served as labour’s Secretary of State from the House of Lords, if I remember correctly.

[overdrive]

It wouldn’t be unique.

lord Mandelson served as labour’s Secretary of State from the House of Lords, if I remember correctly.

They shouldn't have done that either. What does it say of the Tory's pool of MPs that Sunak doesn't think any of them could step up?

[lapsedhibee]

It wouldn’t be unique.

lord Mandelson served as labour’s Secretary of State from the House of Lords, if I remember correctly.

Lord Carington before that, Defence Secretary, Foreign Secretary and a raft of other government positions. At least Mandelson and Cameron were at some point elected by the public. Carington never was. Eton OB.

[marinello59]

To be fair, and I can't believe I'm saying it but, Cameron might be a good option for the post in the current situation.

Taking his odious politics out of the equation I’m going to agree with you. As an ex-Prime Minister he has a wealth of experience and rather alarmingly carries much more gravitas than any other candidates. I am not comfirtable with him serving from the Lords but we have to remember that in this country we don’t elect ministers in to position, we choose someone to represent our constituency.

[marinello59]

Braverman unleashed should be entertaining. I’m looking forward to her and her allies ripping their party apart.

[Stairway 2 7]

Taking his odious politics out of the equation I’m going to agree with you. As an ex-Prime Minister he has a wealth of experience and rather alarmingly carries much more gravitas than any other candidates. I am not comfirtable with him serving from the Lords but we have to remember that in this country we don’t elect ministers in to position, we choose someone to represent our constituency.

We elect our politicians to be accountable in the commons, this austerity loving arse being in Lords means the foreign Secretary can't be questioned by our opposition MPs. Stunned people are defending the farce

[marinello59]

We elect our politicians to be accountable in the commons, this austerity loving arse being in Lords means the foreign Secretary can't be questioned by our opposition MPs. Stunned people are defending the farce

I’m not defending it, that’s the system we have. Those we elect to represent us can choose whoever they want to be ministers and unless we change to a system where we directly elect Ministers in to their position that is how it will be.

[Northernhibee]

It pains me to say it but bring in Cameron May turn out to be the smartest thing that Sunak has done.

It means that Starmer is unlikely to get away with sitting in the “Call me Dave” middle of the road space, and I don’t trust the electorate down south to remember the awfulness of austerity and the hurt caused by the Brexit referendum. He’s also a very good campaigner.

[Stairway 2 7]

New Conservative group having a meeting today about a Braverman leadership bid, Beer Hall Putsch

[Hiber-nation]

Coffey apparently getting sacked but went in the front door by mistake 😂

Edit: Jumped before she got pushed. Sorry Terese!

[Stairway 2 7]

It pains me to say it but bring in Cameron May turn out to be the smartest thing that Sunak has done.

It means that Starmer is unlikely to get away with sitting in the “Call me Dave” middle of the road space, and I don’t trust the electorate down south to remember the awfulness of austerity and the hurt caused by the Brexit referendum. He’s also a very good campaigner.

He did a cracking job campaigning for remain. The section of the party that they have been trying to win hate him due to wanting remain. They also are going to have to talk about Greenhill now. I doubt he'll swing the dial either way though to be honest

@BladeoftheS
David Cameron lobbied to get Greensill loans from the Taxpayer.

They were paying him £1m a year for 25 days of ‘work’.

Less than a year after securing more than £5bn from the taxpayer they went bankrupt.

But not before Cameron sold his shares and made another £7m

[Kato]

He did a cracking job campaigning for remain. The section of the party that they have been trying to win hate him due to wanting remain. They also are going to have to talk about Greenhill now. I doubt he'll swing the dial either way though to be honest

@BladeoftheS
David Cameron lobbied to get Greensill loans from the Taxpayer.

They were paying him £1m a year for 25 days of ‘work’.

Less than a year after securing more than £5bn from the taxpayer they went bankrupt.

But not before Cameron sold his shares and made another £7m"We are all in this together."

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[Ozyhibby]

He did a cracking job campaigning for remain. The section of the party that they have been trying to win hate him due to wanting remain. They also are going to have to talk about Greenhill now. I doubt he'll swing the dial either way though to be honest

@BladeoftheS
David Cameron lobbied to get Greensill loans from the Taxpayer.

They were paying him £1m a year for 25 days of ‘work’.

Less than a year after securing more than £5bn from the taxpayer they went bankrupt.

But not before Cameron sold his shares and made another £7m

Nothing is shifting any dial’s now. Tories are heading for a historic defeat.


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[marinello59]

Nothing is shifting any dial’s now. Tories are heading for a historic defeat.


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Oh without a doubt. This is absolutely desperate stuff from Sunak. Great fun to watch this version of the Tory party in its death throes though.

[Hibrandenburg]

BBC World Service news reporting that Braverman has lost her job due to a Cabinet reshuffle. :hmmm:

[Bostonhibby]

Oh without a doubt. This is absolutely desperate stuff from Sunak. Great fun to watch this version of the Tory party in its death throes though.Thank god we've taken back control of our democracy and don't have unelected people just arbitrarily appointing other unelected people to run our country like wot happens in the EU.

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[Hibrandenburg]

It's utterly incredible that despite having 350 MP's, the talent pool is so poor that they have to get ministers from the HOL.

[grunt]

It's utterly incredible that despite having 350 MP's, the talent pool is so poor that they have to get ministers from the HOL.
Cameron wasn't even in the HoL. He had to be made a peer today so he could become Foreign Minister.

[ACLeith]

Cameron wasn't even in the HoL. He had to be made a peer today so he could become Foreign Minister.

What title has he taken? Lord "Call me Dave" of Shaftthepoor?

[lapsedhibee]

What title has he taken? Lord "Call me Dave" of Shaftthepoor?

The Twitter I read was predicting 'Lord of West Ham or Aston Villa'.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/400408195_747654080736680_4878572893521751947_n.jp g?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=T1HRV7L-RR8AX8Brwhc&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AfCoBPAIu6LTWYHJWzPSHFVPsDukU9nDbiGPjpdP6pLP cA&oe=65575D40

[Bostonhibby]

What title has he taken? Lord "Call me Dave" of Shaftthepoor?Lord Dave of the Lobby?

He was very successful on behalf of his chums at that grift during Covid even if his party leadership effort did rather splatter on the runway like a pigs head on a bullingdon club night out.

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[grunt]

:greengrin

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-1SiEGWAAA0V-k?format=jpg&name=large

[Kato]

:greengrin

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-1SiEGWAAA0V-k?format=jpg&name=largeResorting to gaslighting each other.

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[Pretty Boy]

The meltdown among the right wing grifters on social media is a joy to behold.

They know they are finished.

[lapsedhibee]

:greengrin

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-1SiEGWAAA0V-k?format=jpg&name=large

What's her first language? :dunno:

[Bostonhibby]

Resorting to gaslighting each other.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkWorried she's going to lose her own seat?

Self preservation is their second last resort, just behind filling their boots at the country's expense.

It's a great watch though.

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[grunt]

What's her first language? :dunno:

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/048253d834c24d43af4d21412eea3abeec9439a5/0_40_852_511/master/852.jpg?width=1200&height=900&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/048253d834c24d43af4d21412eea3abeec9439a5/0_40_852_511/master/852.jpg?width=620&dpr=2&s=none

[GlesgaeHibby]

What's her first language? :dunno:

Trying to stick up for Boris, and calling him unforgivable :greengrin. Scary to think she was an Education Minister for a bit...

[grunt]

Scary to think she was an Education Minister for a bit...:agree:

Esther McVey, who thinks Velázquez’s Rokeby Venus, painted in 1647, “depicts the Suffragette movement”, a group active from 1903 to 1914, and whose #GBeebies show is being investigated by Ofcom, is our new “minister for common sense”.

[grunt]

News sneaked out under cover of the cabinet re-re-re-reshuffle:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-zirUnWwAA6tAJ?format=jpg&name=medium

[neil7908]

News sneaked out under cover of the cabinet re-re-re-reshuffle:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-zirUnWwAA6tAJ?format=jpg&name=medium

Yup, saw that as well. Despite self destructing, they are still extremely dangerous.

And it'll be another Tory policy that Labour will decide they just can't afford to revoke

[Ozyhibby]

What's her first language? :dunno:

This applies to all parties really because they all seem to have them but how bad are the selection procedures for selecting mp candidates?


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[Bostonhibby]

This applies to all parties really because they all seem to have them but how bad are the selection procedures for selecting mp candidates?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkQuite a few of the current more fanatical nasty party intake are from the school of being hopelessly in love with Bozo, ala Jenkins, Dorries and the like.......

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[lapsedhibee]

Scary to think she was an Education Minister for a bit...

Not sure that Marina Hyde's a fan either:
You have to remember that even Andrea Jenkyns, the missing link between the vegetable and mineral kingdoms, has been an education minister.

[marinello59]

Braverman savages Sunni with her resignation letter. An excellent start to a war that will see the Tory Party left in tatters. Loving her work. :greengrin

[Hibrandenburg]

Braverman savages Sunni with her resignation letter. An excellent start to a war that will see the Tory Party left in tatters. Loving her work. :greengrin

Thought she got fired?

[marinello59]

Thought she got fired?

She was but I think the pretence always is that they have resigned. I consider myself corrected though.

[Ozyhibby]

Braverman savages Sunni with her resignation letter. An excellent start to a war that will see the Tory Party left in tatters. Loving her work. :greengrin

I think she will find she represents less people than she thinks.


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[marinello59]

Initial comments seem to be pointing towards the Rwanda ruling going against the Government. Fingers crossed.

[grunt]

Government loses. A shame.

[marinello59]

Initial comments seem to be pointing towards the Rwanda ruling going against the Government. Fingers crossed.

Phew, for a few seconds I thought some backtracking was going on. A resounding defeat for the Government and a victory for the decent majority who saw this for the cruel and inhumane policy that it was. . Let’s hope this is the end of it.

[Bristolhibby]

It’s so obviously awful it’s a wonder they even thought it would be a good idea.

Open the processing points in France and give them a legal route to claim asylum in the U.K.

In his opening remarks, Lord Reed says: "There is a legal rule that refugees must not be returned to their country of origin if their lives would be threatened in that country."

The principle of not sending refugees back to their home countries, if they would be subject to a real risk abuse, is embedded in various British laws, says Lord Reed.
The question is whether this Rwanda policy breaches those laws, as well as human rights laws.

Lord Reed continues saying a country can only qualify as a safe third country if it does not subject refugees to refoulement (meaning sending them back to their home country).
If there are grounds to believe that asylum seekers are at risk of refoulement then they cannot be sent to Rwanda, says Lord Reed.

When this case came before the High Court it failed to give proper consideration to UNHCR’s evidence. That was a mistake, says Lord Reed.
The Court of Appeal was right to overturn the High Court’s decision, he says, and to consider the evidence again.

Rwanda has a poor human rights record, Lord Reed says.
Police here have had to warn claimants here of threats to kill them.
There are also concerns about media and political freedom in Rwanda, he adds. This evidence raises questions as to its compliance with international obligations.

Lord Reed points out Rwanda's 100% rate of rejection of asylum claims from countries in known conflict zones - such as Syria, Yemen and Afghanistan - although UK authorities find that such claims are usually founded.
He also mentions Rwanda's "apparent misunderstanding" of its obligations under the Refugee Convention.

Another matter raised by Lord Reed is Rwanda's failure to fulfil undertakings with Israel under an agreement - similar to the one being proposed by the UK - on the removal of asylum seekers in 2013-18.
"Despite the terms of the agreement... asylum seekers were frequently moved to another country from which they were likely to be refouled."
This raises questions on whether Rwanda can be relied on, he says.

[Stairway 2 7]

Phew, for a few seconds I thought some backtracking was going on. A resounding defeat for the Government and a victory for the decent majority who saw this for the cruel and inhumane policy that it was. . Let’s hope this is the end of it.

Doubt it unfortunately. Germany, Austria and the UK apparently looking into a deal with Albania if Rwanda fell through

[Ozyhibby]

Doubt it unfortunately. Germany, Austria and the UK apparently looking into a deal with Albania if Rwanda fell through

Those countries are talking about processing applications abroad. The UK plan was to not process people at all and just dump them in Rwanda.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Those countries are talking about processing applications abroad. The UK plan was to not process people at all and just dump them in Rwanda.


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But they were also going to coincide with stricter entry and cutting numbers of immigration. They would be in reality stuck in Albania a country they didn't want to go to. The EU do the same in Libya now. Say they will process there but basically imprison them in disgusting conditions out of sight. Rwanda is abhorrent but so is Albania, Libya and the Turkish camps that Europe funded

The west needs to think of better humane ways to treat immigrants with global warming it's going to become more of a problem.

[marinello59]

Yvette Cooper tearing the Government to pieces over the Rwanda ruling. Worth catching later if you can.

[Kato]

https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1724747687117902081?t=iUptfMdPxOjn49JcHedw5A&s=19

Lee Anderson says ministers should go ahead and “put planes in the air” to Rwanda anyway.

When I asked if he was suggesting ignoring the Supreme Court ruling, the Tory deputy chairman said govt should “ignore the laws and send them straight back”.

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[Ozyhibby]

Yvette Cooper tearing the Government to pieces over the Rwanda ruling. Worth catching later if you can.

Always an excellent performer.


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[Stairway 2 7]

https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1724747687117902081?t=iUptfMdPxOjn49JcHedw5A&s=19

Lee Anderson says ministers should go ahead and “put planes in the air” to Rwanda anyway.

When I asked if he was suggesting ignoring the Supreme Court ruling, the Tory deputy chairman said govt should “ignore the laws and send them straight back”.

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Jesus it's all very Trump. 80 tory MPs apparently pushing them to leave the ECHR, weirdos

[grunt]

https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1724747687117902081?t=iUptfMdPxOjn49JcHedw5A&s=19

Lee Anderson says ministers should go ahead and “put planes in the air” to Rwanda anyway.

When I asked if he was suggesting ignoring the Supreme Court ruling, the Tory deputy chairman said govt should “ignore the laws and send them straight back”.
Fascist lying Tory ****.

[Ozyhibby]

Jesus it's all very Trump. 80 tory MPs apparently pushing them to leave the ECHR, weirdos

Get their letters in then and force a GE.[emoji106]


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[Stairway 2 7]

Get their letters in then and force a GE.[emoji106]


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I think some of the nutters wouldn't mind the destruction, there seems to be a group of them that are even more hate filled than your usual hate filled tory.

Farage to push a new party post I'm a celebrity, Braverman and Lee by his side?

[Bostonhibby]

Fascist lying Tory ****.Well he's a tory for the time being, let's see where he pops up next.

The nasties do seem a perfect fit but he's potentially out of a seat next election.

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[Hibrandenburg]

Phew, for a few seconds I thought some backtracking was going on. A resounding defeat for the Government and a victory for the decent majority who saw this for the cruel and inhumane policy that it was. . Let’s hope this is the end of it.

No chance, there's no political gain in the government holding up their hands and say "we're wrong", with the help of a subservient press they'll pitch this as bleeding heart liberals against democracy.

[grunt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-9_bE7XAAArxYk?format=jpg&name=medium

[marinello59]

Sunak has gone Nuclear. Will be introducing emergency legislation to ensure a new treaty with Rwanda is ratified. A major miscalculation, he has given in to Braverman within 48 hours of sacking her.

[Ozyhibby]

Sunak has gone Nuclear. Will be introducing emergency legislation to ensure a new treaty with Rwanda is ratified. A major miscalculation, he has given in to Braverman within 48 hours of sacking her.

Which will be challenged in the courts for another two years. Not a single soul will travel to Rwanda.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/skynews/status/1724834981988479053?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

When did the Supreme Court become a foreign court?


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[MKHIBEE]

Which will be challenged in the courts for another two years. Not a single soul will travel to Rwanda.


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With a waiting list of asylum seekers approaching 200,000 all this nonsense over a hare brained scheme that affects 200 is a pathetic waste of time and resources and surely is pandering to the right wing Neanderthals that inhabit our society

[marinello59]

With a waiting list of asylum seekers approaching 200,000 all this nonsense over a hare brained scheme that affects 200 is a pathetic waste of time and resources and surely is pandering to the right wing Neanderthals that inhabit our society

There isn't even anything close to a majority of people in the UK who want this. It's all about Sunak trying to stay in power.

[Kato]

https://x.com/skynews/status/1724834981988479053?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

When did the Supreme Court become a foreign court?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkA sensible media, TV and Newspapers, would just be pointing and laughing by now. As it is these grifters are treated with a gravitas they don't merit.

They aren't even attempting to run the country, we're just presented with an increasingly pompous set of statements written to impress/piss off the various factions within their own party.

A feral sack of rats.

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[grunt]

Sunak has gone Nuclear. Will be introducing emergency legislation to ensure a new treaty with Rwanda is ratified. A major miscalculation, he has given in to Braverman within 48 hours of sacking her.Once again Sunak breaches the ministerial code by making a major policy announcement outside the House of Commons. The lying Tories continue to hack away at the rules which are designed to ensure good governance. There will be no punishment from the useless Speaker.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://x.com/skynews/status/1724834981988479053?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

When did the Supreme Court become a foreign court?


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The court specifically said this was nothing to do with ECHR and Sunak knows that if he's being truthful. And yes no-one will go to Rwanda

The thing is tories and business want immigration to keep their profits but they want to seem like they don't. Net migration of 600k and they are making right wingers look at thousands in boats

[grunt]

Braverman has spoken about the SC verdict, saying that she's not surprised that her policy was found to be illegal. If she knew it was illegal all along, why has she wasted £140,000,000 (and more) on it?? But oh yes, about that iPad.

[lapsedhibee]

Braverman has spoken about the SC verdict, saying that she's not surprised that her policy was found to be illegal. If she knew it was illegal all along, why has she wasted £140,000,000 (and more) on it?? But oh yes, about that iPad.

Be fair. Wars are expensive to fight, and that includes culture wars.

[Hibrandenburg]

Another nail in the coffin of democracy and another step towards full blown fascism today. Sunak has basically said he will rewrite laws so that the government can push ahead with Rwanda deportations.

[MKHIBEE]

Another nail in the coffin of democracy and another step towards full blown fascism today. Sunak has basically said he will rewrite laws so that the government can push ahead with Rwanda deportations.

I think that coffin is now 6 feet under.

[Stairway 2 7]

Notice in Yougov poll conducted yesterday 47% of Scots back Rwanda and 53% oppose. You would like to blame it completely on tories but about 36% of SNP and Labour voters voted for brexit so I doubt it.

Generally the less financially we'll of the more likely you were to vote brexit and anti immigration feeling is usually similar. The media do a good job of othering

[marinello59]

Watching Cleverly doing the rounds today you can’t help but feel he knows that there will never be a flight to Rwanda under this scheme.

[Bostonhibby]

Watching Cleverly doing the rounds today you can’t help but feel he knows that there will never be a flight to Rwanda under this scheme.He looks like the guy who drew the seat next to Coffey for the Nasty party xmas dinner.

Doesn't really look like he's landed the gig of his dreams and he's lost all that private jet travel to exotic places.

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[Andy Bee]

He looks like the guy who drew the seat next to Coffey for the Nasty party xmas dinner.

Doesn't really look like he's landed the gig of his dreams and he's lost all that private jet travel to exotic places.

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Ha Ha he's gutted, he's went from Logan Roy to Loganair.

[marinello59]

Notice in Yougov poll conducted yesterday 47% of Scots back Rwanda and 53% oppose. You would like to blame it completely on tories but about 36% of SNP and Labour voters voted for brexit so I doubt it.

Generally the less financially we'll of the more likely you were to vote brexit and anti immigration feeling is usually similar. The media do a good job of othering

I find that 47% figure hard to believe, I don’t think support is thet high across the UK as a whole is thst high. What questions were asked?

Your point about blaming it on the Tories is a good one. Voters for all parties support this and Brexit. Attitudes across the UK as a whole are not that different despite us constantly being told we care more in Scotland. My belief is we are much more tolerant and understanding in our daily lives across this entire Island than the politicians want us to think.

[Bostonhibby]

Ha Ha he's gutted, he's went from Logan Roy to Loganair.[emoji23][emoji23]

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[Hiber-nation]

Notice in Yougov poll conducted yesterday 47% of Scots back Rwanda and 53% oppose. You would like to blame it completely on tories but about 36% of SNP and Labour voters voted for brexit so I doubt it.

Generally the less financially we'll of the more likely you were to vote brexit and anti immigration feeling is usually similar. The media do a good job of othering

Not sure where you got something as cut and dried. 35% support or tend to support according to this, with 24% don't know. https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2023/11/14/30390/2

[nonshinyfinish]

Not sure where you got something as cut and dried. 35% support or tend to support according to this, with 24% don't know. https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2023/11/14/30390/2

Based on the figures in your link, I think the 47% probably comes from a poll result where don't knows have been excluded. That can be quite distorting if (as in this case) there are a lot of don't knows.

[Kato]

Doesn't really look like he's landed the gig of his dreams and he's lost all that private jet travel

...only fair someone else has a shot on that...

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[Stairway 2 7]

Not sure where you got something as cut and dried. 35% support or tend to support according to this, with 24% don't know. https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2023/11/14/30390/2

Yeah was in an article with don't knows removed. Removing don't knows isn't the best but almost half of people who have an opinion saying they approve is still shocking to me. 35%, it shouldn't be above 5% of nutters

This was the question
The Government has agreed a deal where some people who have entered Britain to apply for asylum will be flown to Rwanda, in Africa, for their asylum applications to be processed. If their application is successful they would be granted asylum in Rwanda, and would not be entitled to return to Britain. Do you support or oppose this proposal?
Conducted 14 November 2023

[Stairway 2 7]

I find that 47% figure hard to believe, I don’t think support is thet high across the UK as a whole is thst high. What questions were asked?

Your point about blaming it on the Tories is a good one. Voters for all parties support this and Brexit. Attitudes across the UK as a whole are not that different despite us constantly being told we care more in Scotland. My belief is we are much more tolerant and understanding in our daily lives across this entire Island than the politicians want us to think.

Uk always comes in around the top few in Europe when it comes to positive attitude to immigrants. Its just that we have a party ruling for the minority of **** bags

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/03/most-british-people-hold-positive-view-of-immigration-survey-reveals
Most British people hold positive view of immigration, survey reveals

[Bostonhibby]

...only fair someone else has a shot on that...

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkNot much time left and no one sticks in the same cabinet job very long so who next for the luxury travel package, or will Dodgy Dave see the term out?

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[H18S NX]

Ha Ha he's gutted, he's went from Logan Roy to Loganair.....:aok::top marks

[Jack]

Not much time left and no one sticks in the same cabinet job very long so who next for the luxury travel package, or will Dodgy Dave see the term out?

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When they're out of power they'll be getting all the kickbacks from the 1,000s of dodgy contracts, worth billions of pounds, they've given to their palls.

They'll ALL have private jets to take them to their private yachts in the Mediterranean and Caribbean.

[marinello59]

Ha Ha he's gutted, he's went from Logan Roy to Loganair.

:top marks

[grunt]

Yeah, but what about the iPad?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_IA95eWoAAgmyC?format=jpg&name=large

[Jack]

Yeah, but what about the iPad?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_IA95eWoAAgmyC?format=jpg&name=large

That's the English front page. It made the Scottish front page of the Times and almost every other front page!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw923prprq5o

[grunt]

That's the English front page. It made the Scottish front page of the Times and almost every other front page!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw923prprq5o
That link is so depressing. We are being brainwashed by our media. This is a minor story being whipped up into a frenzy and many many people are being taken in by it. While we're focusing on a bloody iPad we are being robbed blind and having our freedoms severely limited behind our backs.

Really, there is no hope for us under this onslaught. You only need to look on here to see how eagerly some folks fall for this rubbish.

[Kato]

That link is so depressing. We are being brainwashed by our media. This is a minor story being whipped up into a frenzy and many many people are being taken in by it. While we're focusing on a bloody iPad we are being robbed blind and having our freedoms severely limited behind our backs.

Really, there is no hope for us under this onslaught. You only need to look on here to see how eagerly some folks fall for this rubbish.It's fair enough to say that the likes of Michelle Mone and other illegal VIP beneficiaries have appeared in the headlines as the proof is out there. What you don't see is those stories appearing day after day after day. They appear then nothing is said, no one is doorstepping the fraudsters. The BBC gives credence to bluenosed pipsqueeks like thon MSP/MP linesman, forgetting that he was also caught up in his own deception.

I hope the guy gets what is coming to him re the eleven grand but it really is miniscule in the grand scheme of UK govt waste deception. If he's lied he should get what's coming to him, which looking at the track record of how recent cases of lying politicians will be a seat in the Tory cabinet or even made PM.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Scotlands third highest politican getting caught lying to the public and fiddling expenses is massive news in Scotland rightly. Its only been in the news day after day because he's dragging it out telling more lies daily. If he admitted he made a mistake last year and paid it himself he'd probably get sympathy and it wouldn't be a story.

It's not a main story in England because the tories have been getting hammered for a week about Rwanda.

As for increasing sanctions for people who lose their benefits rights after refusing a job for 18 months, I'd bet it would get support up here from the public. There's nothing wrong with getting people to get back into work the problem is the tories do it disgusting time after time, punishing people who can't physically or mentally work for example

It obviously goes without saying removing free prescription for poor people is barbaric and stupid because it will cost you more. It won't happen though. The only getting sick lines from the brew will I think though

[hibee]

That link is so depressing. We are being brainwashed by our media. This is a minor story being whipped up into a frenzy and many many people are being taken in by it. While we're focusing on a bloody iPad we are being robbed blind and having our freedoms severely limited behind our backs.

Really, there is no hope for us under this onslaught. You only need to look on here to see how eagerly some folks fall for this rubbish.

The story will go away once he either quits or gets sacked, he’s one of our top politicians earning over £100k so hardly a minor story in Scotland.

Most of the headlines about him are true so nobody is being brainwashed apart from the people who support him and think it’s ok to steal from and lie to the public just because he didn’t steal as much as someone in England.

[neil7908]

This is Boris writing in the Daily Mail:

“We baby boomers had the full-fat pensions; we had the free university; we had the cheap housing. Those benefits allowed us to accumulate phenomenal wealth, as a generation, and in the name of inter-generational fairness it is right that more of that wealth should now be passed on to our descendants,” Johnson said.

Even from him I am absolutely staggered by this. After gorging themselves on a wonderful array of socialist policies that helped to truly spread wealth around the country, and give working class people a chance to better their lives, his answer is... for them to keep all that money in their family.

I didn't think I could hate the guy any more but there you go.

Whilst we all know this is the Tories agenda, I still can't believe he's stupid enough to openly admit it.

[lapsedhibee]

This is Boris writing in the Daily Mail:

“We baby boomers had the full-fat pensions; we had the free university; we had the cheap housing. Those benefits allowed us to accumulate phenomenal wealth, as a generation, and in the name of inter-generational fairness it is right that more of that wealth should now be passed on to our descendants,” Johnson said.

Even from him I am absolutely staggered by this. After gorging themselves on a wonderful array of socialist policies that helped to truly spread wealth around the country, and give working class people a chance to better their lives, his answer is... for them to keep all that money in their family.

I didn't think I could hate the guy any more but there you go.

Whilst we all know this is the Tories agenda, I still can't believe he's stupid enough to openly admit it.

Hundreds of thousands of people whose house is now valued above the IHT threshold will lap this stuff up.

[Kato]

Most of the headlines about him are true so nobody is being brainwashed apart from the people who support him and think it’s ok to steal from and lie to the public just because he didn’t steal as much as someone in England.

Who are these brainwashed people?

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[Ozyhibby]

Hundreds of thousands of people whose house is now valued above the IHT threshold will lap this stuff up.

They usually have more than one child though. IHT is only charged on about 3% of estates.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Who are these brainwashed people?

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SNP supporters who treat their party like a football team that must be defended even if they are wrong, although they can barely compute that they are ever in the wrong. Every party has them equally. I've went with the mantra that all of the big parties are filled to the brim with self serving ********s, it's served me well

[Kato]

SNP supporters who treat their party like a football team that must be defended even if they are wrong, although they can barely compute that they are ever in the wrong. Every party has them equally. I've went with the mantra that all of the big parties are filled to the brim with self serving ********s, it's served me wellCan't say I've seen claim it's OK for him to steal and lie.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Can't say I've seen claim it's OK for him to steal and lie.

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Many of the SNP twitterati are saying this is a complete non story and using whataboutery. That's defending the indefensible imo, it's obviously not about just this incident I'm talking about though

Like this headcase with thousands of followers as an example
https://twitter.com/Smicht/status/1725169071430180886

[lapsedhibee]

They usually have more than one child though. IHT is only charged on about 3% of estates.


3% of estates is a bit over 20,000 dead people, but for every deceased person there will be a good few more people directly affected: spouses, children, grandchildren. And in addition to people directly affected, there seems to be a wider belief that IHT is somehow 'unfair'. Seems a net vote loser to me at a time of rising cost of living, but not sure Johnson is being any more than usually stupid by spouting it.

[Jack]

This is Boris writing in the Daily Mail:

“We baby boomers had the full-fat pensions; we had the free university; we had the cheap housing. Those benefits allowed us to accumulate phenomenal wealth, as a generation, and in the name of inter-generational fairness it is right that more of that wealth should now be passed on to our descendants,” Johnson said.

Even from him I am absolutely staggered by this. After gorging themselves on a wonderful array of socialist policies that helped to truly spread wealth around the country, and give working class people a chance to better their lives, his answer is... for them to keep all that money in their family.

I didn't think I could hate the guy any more but there you go.

Whilst we all know this is the Tories agenda, I still can't believe he's stupid enough to openly admit it.

You have to wonder, well I do, how the country managed to afford all that while taxes were so low in comparison to the record breaking taxes we have now. And not a foodbank in sight.

[Stairway 2 7]

You have to wonder, well I do, how the country managed to afford all that while taxes were so low in comparison to the record breaking taxes we have now. And not a foodbank in sight.

Life expectancy has went up 10 year in the last 30 years so bigger bill there. Those going to university too although that is a political choice, tories less keen when the plebs started regularly going. We also went from 6.5 million council houses when the pop was 56mil 30 years ago to 1.8 now the pop is 67. Although almost 40% of people were in relative poverty 30 years ago compared 22% now so less food banks as we were all hungry. Most of the problems now are due to tory policy, selling council houses particularly. That's why the youth can't gather wealth and also why his party are ****** as the under 30s aren't turning right, the first generation ever

[Kato]

Many of the SNP twitterati are saying this is a complete non story and using whataboutery. That's defending the indefensible imo, it's obviously not about just this incident I'm talking about though

Like this headcase with thousands of followers as an example
https://twitter.com/Smicht/status/1725169071430180886Right. A bloke on twitter.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Right. A bloke on twitter.

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8k followers mostly independence minded, there's loads more like him. Put in ipad non story into twitter search and you'll see dozens saying just that. You asked who the brainwashed are and it's them. It's the 1% but they are loud. Some of the frothing defence of SNP on here can be mad to me also. I find it healthy to give your own party criticism like you would the other parties and to be fair the vast majority do.

[Kato]

Put in ipad non story into twitter search and you'll see dozens saying just that .

No ta. Agree with what you are saying though.

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[J-C]

Esther McVey the minister for common sense, WTF

[Bostonhibby]

Esther McVey the minister for common sense, WTFMinister in charge of seeing how far they can push the mockery of the proles before the nasties are jettisoned next election.

They haven't really reached world class sneering levels since Bozo and Rees Smug moved out of the front line.

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