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JimBHibees
30-05-2021, 09:23 AM
So in the weekend after Cummings absolutely rubbished the apparent complete shambles of the uk government Covid response Marr has a nice cosy wee chat with the Vaccines minister. He is absolutely unwatchable at the moment and obviously looking for some sort of gong in the near future. The contrast between how some politicians are treated is absolutely despicable imo.

Hibrandenburg
30-05-2021, 09:29 AM
So in the weekend after Cummings absolutely rubbished the apparent complete shambles of the uk government Covid response Marr has a nice cosy wee chat with the Vaccines minister. He is absolutely unwatchable at the moment and obviously looking for some sort of gong in the near future. The contrast between how some politicians are treated is absolutely despicable imo.

I think it might be new BBC policy rather than Marr. It's simply unpatriotic to give her Majesty's Government a hard time.

JimBHibees
30-05-2021, 09:38 AM
I think it might be new BBC policy rather than Marr. It's simply unpatriotic to give her Majesty's Government a hard time.

Think you are right. Their Director General is a Tory.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Davie

Extract

Tim Davie announced his intention for the BBC to "find a better balance of satirical targets rather than constantly aiming jokes at the Tories :greengrin

Northernhibee
30-05-2021, 11:37 AM
Nadine Dorries is now off Twitter, but not before posting “Dominic Cummings isn’t as clever as he doesn’t think he is”.

Bostonhibby
30-05-2021, 11:57 AM
Nadine Dorries is now off Twitter, but not before posting “Dominic Cummings isn’t as clever as he doesn’t think he is”.Lucky Nadine is well known for her cleverliness[emoji23][emoji23]

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Kato
01-06-2021, 12:36 PM
Remember all that "World beating" stuff we had at the beginning of the pandemic?

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnFinagin/status/1399352909259739142

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Mon Dieu4
01-06-2021, 02:15 PM
Douglas Ross was trying out a new softer tone when asking Sturgeon questions, wonder if he's been on a training course

Blackfordhibby
01-06-2021, 02:23 PM
Douglas Ross was trying out a new softer tone when asking Sturgeon questions, wonder if he's been on a training course


At first I thought it was Ruth the mooth going by the mannerisms, then I realised it was Eeyore in a suit.

cabbageandribs1875
02-06-2021, 09:16 PM
Labour demands probe into donations to Tories from defunct firms - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57325474)


corrupt s*um :agree:

Labour is calling for an investigation into two donations allegedly made to the Conservative Party from companies which had ceased to exist.

cabbageandribs1875
02-06-2021, 09:18 PM
Tuesday: Douglas Ross demands rapid loosening of COVID restrictions


Wednesday: Douglas Ross Self Isolating

Hibrandenburg
02-06-2021, 09:59 PM
Tuesday: Douglas Ross demands rapid loosening of COVID restrictions


Wednesday: Douglas Ross Self Isolating

:faf:

Bostonhibby
02-06-2021, 10:04 PM
Tuesday: Douglas Ross demands rapid loosening of COVID restrictions


Wednesday: Douglas Ross Self IsolatingAre you sure one of the protagonists here wasn't the controversial figure, Murray Ross?

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ronaldo7
03-06-2021, 04:11 AM
Tuesday: Douglas Ross demands rapid loosening of COVID restrictions


Wednesday: Douglas Ross Self Isolating

Is he isolating with Glenn Campbell? 😏

Jones28
03-06-2021, 07:06 AM
Potential cuts to the foreign aid budget could be reversed. I was cheered up at first until I realised how sad it was that this was ever proposed in the first place.

Moulin Yarns
03-06-2021, 08:02 AM
https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/02/education-recovery-chief-kevan-collins-quit-english-schools-catch-up-row?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16227072020409&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fpolit ics%2F2021%2Fjun%2F02%2Feducation-recovery-chief-kevan-collins-quit-english-schools-catch-up-row

Ouch! £15m for education recovery asked for, £1.4m take it or leave it.

OK he leaves

Ozyhibby
03-06-2021, 08:06 AM
https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/02/education-recovery-chief-kevan-collins-quit-english-schools-catch-up-row?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16227072020409&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fpolit ics%2F2021%2Fjun%2F02%2Feducation-recovery-chief-kevan-collins-quit-english-schools-catch-up-row

Ouch! £15m for education recovery asked for, £1.4m take it or leave it.

OK he leaves

Has direct consequences for Scotland as well. Tories crippling Scottish education financially while complaining about poor performance at the same time.[emoji849]


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Crunchie
03-06-2021, 08:09 AM
Has direct consequences for Scotland as well. Tories crippling Scottish education financially while complaining about poor performance at the same time.[emoji849]


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You're going to blame the demise of the Scottish education system on the tories? :faf: your posts are getting funnier by the day

Moulin Yarns
03-06-2021, 08:14 AM
Has direct consequences for Scotland as well. Tories crippling Scottish education financially while complaining about poor performance at the same time.[emoji849]


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It's OK though because the army has spent £3.5b on tanks that can't go faster than 20mph.

https://www-telegraph-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/02/new-british-tanks-costing-35bn-cannot-driven-safely-20mph-reveals/amp/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16227078940240&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews% 2F2021%2F06%2F02%2Fnew-british-tanks-costing-35bn-cannot-driven-safely-20mph-reveals%2F


It's all about priorities 😊🙄

Ozyhibby
03-06-2021, 08:17 AM
You're going to blame the demise of the Scottish education system on the tories? :faf: your posts are getting funnier by the day

Says the person who thinks the Scottish Education system is the worlds worst.[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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Bostonhibby
03-06-2021, 08:40 AM
It's OK though because the army has spent £3.5b on tanks that can't go faster than 20mph.

https://www-telegraph-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/02/new-british-tanks-costing-35bn-cannot-driven-safely-20mph-reveals/amp/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16227078940240&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews% 2F2021%2F06%2F02%2Fnew-british-tanks-costing-35bn-cannot-driven-safely-20mph-reveals%2F


It's all about priorities [emoji4][emoji849]We're getting a £200m boat as well. Can't wait to give it a go.

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Jones28
03-06-2021, 09:19 AM
We're getting a £200m boat as well. Can't wait to give it a go.

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And they painted Bojo's plane with a Union Flag.

Bostonhibby
03-06-2021, 10:05 AM
And they painted Bojo's plane with a Union Flag.Allisbarry.

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Future17
03-06-2021, 01:20 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57335499

Patel really is a nasty piece of work.

Bostonhibby
03-06-2021, 02:31 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57335499

Patel really is a nasty piece of work.Flag bearer for the Nasty Party.

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Ozyhibby
03-06-2021, 02:40 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57335499

Patel really is a nasty piece of work.

She is why they are winning elections. Tories know that as long as they keep being tough on foreigners, they can keep filling their own pockets and inflict austerity wherever they like. This is a winning formula in England and it doesn’t matter what we vote in Scotland.


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Hibrandenburg
03-06-2021, 05:30 PM
She is why they are winning elections. Tories know that as long as they keep being tough on foreigners, they can keep filling their own pockets and inflict austerity wherever they like. This is a winning formula in England and it doesn’t matter what we vote in Scotland.


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The problem with that kind of strategy is that when you start it, you can't stop and it's a downward spiral into the abyss of xenophobic nationalism. When they can't blame the EU and EU citizens for all our woes, then who is next? The Scots, the Irish again or even just Muslims, Jews and Catholics?

Andy Bee
03-06-2021, 06:24 PM
Talking of lining pockets. A week after being given a peerage which was initially turned down only to be overturned by BJ, Peter Cruddas donates £0.5m to the Conservative Party. Them peerages have went up in price innit.

Jones28
03-06-2021, 10:21 PM
The problem with that kind of strategy is that when you start it, you can't stop and it's a downward spiral into the abyss of xenophobic nationalism. When they can't blame the EU and EU citizens for all our woes, then who is next? The Scots, the Irish again or even just Muslims, Jews and Catholics?

The Scots are already seen as money grabbing subsidy junkies who live lavish lives off the english pound. We will be next. Get us tae ****.

Future17
07-06-2021, 02:12 PM
Intrigued by Dowden and Johnson wading into the Ollie Robinson story. Can't be anything except pandering to base.

lapsedhibee
07-06-2021, 02:18 PM
Intrigued by Dowden and Johnson wading into the Ollie Robinson story. Can't be anything except pandering to base.

Nothing very much to be intrigued by. Johnson wants it to be normal never to have old racism brought up, in case anyone brings his old racism up, and Dowden wants anything that Johnson wants. And pandering too, of course.

Bostonhibby
07-06-2021, 02:25 PM
Intrigued by Dowden and Johnson wading into the Ollie Robinson story. Can't be anything except pandering to base.Can't beat a good bit of old fashioned deflection from everything else they've been up to that appeals as you say.

Or is there even more sleaze or bad news round the corner?

Racists supporting racists, whoda thunk it.

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CapitalGreen
07-06-2021, 02:27 PM
Intrigued by Dowden and Johnson wading into the Ollie Robinson story. Can't be anything except pandering to base.

A lot of “keep politics out of sport” folk celebrating this latest intervention from Dowden and Johnson. It’s almost as if they don’t care about politics in sport as long as it’s their own politics.

He's here!
07-06-2021, 03:04 PM
Can't beat a good bit of old fashioned deflection from everything else they've been up to that appeals as you say.

Or is there even more sleaze or bad news round the corner?

Racists supporting racists, whoda thunk it.

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I'm assuming the tweets made by the player in question were pretty horrendous? I hadn't read the story until this afternoon and my initial reaction was to wonder about the cynicism of whoever made them public waiting until he'd stepped on to the field for his England debut before doing so. If somebody wants to call out racism/sexism why not do so right away? The impression this gives is that somebody has been sitting on them for years with a view to exploiting them (or perhaps cashing in?) to the max.

Having not seen the tweets, I'm not going to defend the player but I think it's reasonable to question the motivation behind this.

Bostonhibby
07-06-2021, 03:19 PM
I'm assuming the tweets made by the player in question were pretty horrendous? I hadn't read the story until this afternoon and my initial reaction was to wonder about the cynicism of whoever made them public waiting until he'd stepped on to the field for his England debut before doing so. If somebody wants to call out racism/sexism why not do so right away? The impression this gives is that somebody has been sitting on them for years with a view to exploiting them (or perhaps cashing in?) to the max.

Having not seen the tweets, I'm not going to defend the player but I think it's reasonable to question the motivation behind this.

See where you're coming from but I don't really care how or when they're outed, just glad they are.

The cynic in me wonders if there'd ever have been an expression of regret for past racist and sexist remarks if they hadn't been exposed.

The player himself now acknowledges the nature of the remarks which taken at face value is enough to define them I feel.

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He's here!
07-06-2021, 07:20 PM
See where you're coming from but I don't really care how or when they're outed, just glad they are.

The cynic in me wonders if there'd ever have been an expression of regret for past racist and sexist remarks if they hadn't been exposed.

The player himself now acknowledges the nature of the remarks which taken at face value is enough to define them I feel.

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Yes, I'm not doubting the offensive nature of the remarks.

However, I'm also a bit cynical about the ECB here. Like so many organisations of late there's a sense that they're more concerned with their own image than actually getting to the heart of the matter. This player was under their jurisdiction at the time. Why was something like this allowed to pass unremarked if they see fit to throw him in front of the disciplinary panel now?

I know nothing of Robinson apart from what I've read today but I hope he's a more mature, rational 27-year-old than he was as a teenager. Most of us are, by and large. The comments in his defence from his former room-mate Moeen Ashraf indicate as much.

cabbageandribs1875
09-06-2021, 04:26 PM
https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/198303885_143189594541574_8527276326669551974_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=qS2RaUR_0tgAX89stej&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=b3b31acf283f4f7065c74323d2f9b96a&oe=60E74680

cabbageandribs1875
09-06-2021, 04:26 PM
https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/197933047_143189647874902_2564885462969681968_n.jp g?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=IpywOdS8rI4AX_ckpx-&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=42708d0fd0d5b602b8e47d947921563f&oe=60E5884A

Moulin Yarns
09-06-2021, 04:28 PM
https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/198303885_143189594541574_8527276326669551974_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=qS2RaUR_0tgAX89stej&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=b3b31acf283f4f7065c74323d2f9b96a&oe=60E74680


https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/197933047_143189647874902_2564885462969681968_n.jp g?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=IpywOdS8rI4AX_ckpx-&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=42708d0fd0d5b602b8e47d947921563f&oe=60E5884A


EVEL in action :greengrin

Peevemor
09-06-2021, 04:45 PM
https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/198303885_143189594541574_8527276326669551974_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=qS2RaUR_0tgAX89stej&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=b3b31acf283f4f7065c74323d2f9b96a&oe=60E74680
How can these people be so thick?

Moulin Yarns
09-06-2021, 04:47 PM
How can these people be so thick?

Prerequisit of being a Tory :wink:

Bostonhibby
09-06-2021, 04:52 PM
How can these people be so thick?People vote for them as well, thicker than a thick thing trying to be the best thick thing.

Or is he aware of what he's doing and playing to an even thicker audience?

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weecounty hibby
09-06-2021, 05:01 PM
Prerequisit of being a Tory :wink:

He's not being thick he is just following the Tory party line of attacking the SNP regardless of what they do it don't do. Truth doesn't come I to it, just chuck some shut and hope some of it sticks. It's the only thing they have

Future17
11-06-2021, 06:51 AM
I see the story about Patel having lied to a Parliamentary committee lasted less than half a day on the front page of the BBC news website. Just the new normal. :rolleyes:

lapsedhibee
11-06-2021, 07:07 AM
I see the story about Patel having lied to a Parliamentary committee lasted less than half a day on the front page of the BBC news website. Just the new normal. :rolleyes:

Kuenssberg was on R4Today earlier gushing about Johnson and his 'Indestructible Relationship' with the US.
There's no problems between Johnson and Biden and definitely no disagreement about Norniron. :rolleyes:

Hiber-nation
11-06-2021, 08:00 AM
I see the story about Patel having lied to a Parliamentary committee lasted less than half a day on the front page of the BBC news website. Just the new normal. :rolleyes:

I saw that then went straight to the Guardian app as I assumed it would be prominent. Not a mention. Have they all given up?

Jack
11-06-2021, 08:02 AM
Kuenssberg was on R4Today earlier gushing about Johnson and his 'Indestructible Relationship' with the US.
There's no problems between Johnson and Biden and definitely no disagreement about Norniron. :rolleyes:

BBC also gushing about Bidens first visit abroad being to the UK and first PM type person the serial liar.

I'm assuming the G7 conference has been booked in for some considerable time and that's the only reason Biden is here at this time.

cabbageandribs1875
11-06-2021, 11:20 AM
absolutely nothing to disagree with here

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/198388544_4287350361323416_6860700143355925647_n.j pg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=080cDACtbFoAX8zUCo9&tn=5m7pnQZ1SlTC4D2w&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=0617efeef6061b82d9ed7fc92fba8271&oe=60C794FF

Kato
11-06-2021, 11:29 AM
absolutely nothing to disagree with here

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/198388544_4287350361323416_6860700143355925647_n.j pg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=080cDACtbFoAX8zUCo9&tn=5m7pnQZ1SlTC4D2w&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=0617efeef6061b82d9ed7fc92fba8271&oe=60C794FFYesterdays cow-towing from Johnson towards Biden was hilarious.

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Radium
11-06-2021, 03:20 PM
https://youtu.be/WGUwckgek_k

… in the whilst nobody was looking category


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Ozyhibby
11-06-2021, 04:16 PM
https://youtu.be/WGUwckgek_k

… in the whilst nobody was looking category


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Only affects English NHS patients thankfully.


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cabbageandribs1875
12-06-2021, 12:28 PM
look at the state of this scruffy tw@t, i honestly expected to see tomato sauce dripping down his shirt, still baffling why Symonds married THAT, she obviously cant cook but fgs turn yer "man" out better dressed than you have been of late, scruffiest **** in uk politics, kin embarrassment, total Slob

https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/198943686_4143508925705907_2916577779607232283_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=I-MFDQsQQRMAX9no9qw&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-1.xx&oh=48feaecdd6f24d4b45c2a5bf524b4b42&oe=60C8CDD3

Hibrandenburg
12-06-2021, 02:46 PM
look at the state of this scruffy tw@t, i honestly expected to see tomato sauce dripping down his shirt, still baffling why Symonds married THAT, she obviously cant cook but fgs turn yer "man" out better dressed than you have been of late, scruffiest **** in uk politics, kin embarrassment, total Slob

https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/198943686_4143508925705907_2916577779607232283_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=I-MFDQsQQRMAX9no9qw&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-1.xx&oh=48feaecdd6f24d4b45c2a5bf524b4b42&oe=60C8CDD3

She's not exactly an oil painting herself.

HUTCHYHIBBY
12-06-2021, 05:59 PM
She's not exactly an oil painting herself.

Ooh! This could be fun. 🍿 😉

Ozyhibby
12-06-2021, 06:35 PM
https://twitter.com/peston/status/1403780871900086272?s=21

Johnson upsets Peston.


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Moulin Yarns
14-06-2021, 03:19 PM
She who must be ignored has spoken


https://news.stv.tv/politics/priti-patel-calls-taking-the-knee-gesture-politics

Bostonhibby
14-06-2021, 03:26 PM
https://twitter.com/peston/status/1403780871900086272?s=21

Johnson upsets Peston.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkPretty straightforward, Bozo's practicing to be a Catholic, next week he's practicing to be a Muslim and a Jew the week after that.

He's not very good at it but wants to be popular. There'll be another vague unfinished pledge along in a minute.

Other religions are available.

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Jones28
14-06-2021, 05:36 PM
She who must be ignored has spoken


https://news.stv.tv/politics/priti-patel-calls-taking-the-knee-gesture-politics

She is gammon. Pure and simple.

weecounty hibby
14-06-2021, 06:19 PM
So a further 28 days of restrictions. Wonder where all the folk criticising NS for not giving definitive dates so as to give hope will be tonight. Trying to give hard and fast dates weeks and weeks out was plain stupid but fits perfectly with Johnson and his ministers

WeeRussell
14-06-2021, 06:28 PM
So a further 28 days of restrictions. Wonder where all the folk criticising NS for not giving definitive dates so as to give hope will be tonight. Trying to give hard and fast dates weeks and weeks out was plain stupid but fits perfectly with Johnson and his ministers

They’re probably busy arguing that all she does is follow what Westminster does…

Ozyhibby
14-06-2021, 07:16 PM
They’re probably busy arguing that all she does is follow what Westminster does…

She should have put India on the red list.


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Lendo
14-06-2021, 07:26 PM
She is gammon. Pure and simple.

I genuinely believe she would deport her own parents if she thought it would get her ahead in the Conservative party.

Mr Grieves
14-06-2021, 08:16 PM
She should have put India on the red list.


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India has been on the red list since the beginning of the traffic light system in Scotland...

Radium
15-06-2021, 09:12 AM
https://twitter.com/michaeldapaah/status/1404511227833954305?s=21


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Ozyhibby
16-06-2021, 11:15 AM
I see Cummings is dumping a load of text messages etc online just now. Should be fun.

https://dominiccummings.substack.com/p/the-pm-on-hancock-totally-****ing

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Ozyhibby
16-06-2021, 11:43 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210616/b29fe2da6cb4a003a185bbc6bbb5aa62.jpg


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Kato
16-06-2021, 11:47 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210616/b29fe2da6cb4a003a185bbc6bbb5aa62.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJim Bowen saying "great, smashing, super" over and over would be a better style of leadership than that idiot.

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Moulin Yarns
16-06-2021, 12:40 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57496730

Good for her.

ronaldo7
16-06-2021, 01:35 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57496730

Good for her.

I saw her on the news last night. She must have been distraught trying to get real time information. Bad enough listening to Johnson at the best of times, but even when they do have BSL interpreters there. They struggle.

Lendo
16-06-2021, 04:08 PM
I see Cummings is dumping a load of text messages etc online just now. Should be fun.

https://dominiccummings.substack.com/p/the-pm-on-hancock-totally-****ing

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if even 10% of that is true it should/would be the biggest governmental scandal of all time.

Doesn’t matter though, accountability doesn’t exist anymore. Probably win the Conservatives a few more seats in the south of England.

lapsedhibee
16-06-2021, 05:09 PM
https://dominiccummings.substack.com/p/the-pm-on-hancock-totally-****ing


By the end of that, was beginning to get a vague feeling that Cummings doesn't like Hancock much.

wookie70
16-06-2021, 05:30 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57496730

Good for her.

Good on her but I actually said to a mate the other day that I wondered if the reason there isn't any signers at these announcements is that by the time they worked out what was being said in one sentence he would already have spat out another two of three sentences of incomprehensible nonsense. It would be an impossible job. Is there subtitles anymore, it would be fascinating watching mmmm, er, yes, mm, mmm,,,,ah,!'? them.

We have them at trade union conferences and given the amount of deaf people who will be in the audience it is very poor that the service is not provided.

He's here!
16-06-2021, 06:57 PM
By the end of that, was beginning to get a vague feeling that Cummings doesn't like Hancock much.

I couldn't make it to the end, but after what I did read I was feeling more empathy for Hancock than Cummings.

Cummings, I grudgingly came to accept, was a phenomenal campaigner who completely rejuvenated Johnson's career (which was previously heading down the pan following his backstabbing by Gove and his dismal spell as Foreign Secretary) but now that he's lost the PM's ear he just comes across as little more than bitter and childish. Given his diminished standing in the public eye I suspect all this mud-slinging will have next to zero impact.

Jones28
16-06-2021, 07:21 PM
I couldn't make it to the end, but after what I did read I was feeling more empathy for Hancock than Cummings.

Cummings, I grudgingly came to accept, was a phenomenal campaigner who completely rejuvenated Johnson's career (which was previously heading down the pan following his backstabbing by Gove and his dismal spell as Foreign Secretary) but now that he's lost the PM's ear he just comes across as little more than bitter and childish. Given his diminished standing in the public eye I suspect all this mud-slinging will have next to zero impact.

I can’t figure how someone can have empathy for any of them tbh. The only one doing the right, or the least wrong thing, is Cummings. I don’t see anyone can read actual messages sent by the actual PM and not thing Hancock has to answer for what has happened, and so does Johnson for keeping him in post.

Kato
16-06-2021, 07:23 PM
I couldn't make it to the end, but after what I did read I was feeling more empathy for Hancock than Cummings.


Quite understandable.

lapsedhibee
16-06-2021, 07:23 PM
Quite understandable.
:greengrin

wookie70
16-06-2021, 07:29 PM
The messages from Johnson regarding how useless Hancock really says as much about Johnson as it does Hancock. Johnson has the ability to take him out the firing line and with 10s if not 100s of thousands of lives at stake or potentially seriously effected he chooses to big up the useless twat. Cummings is no doubt a vicious self interested maniac but I suspect he is being accurate with these statements given the evidence he is producing. Unfortunately what doesn't kill Johnson, I include Covid, seems to make him stronger with the English electorate. They might have voted for him if he was dead and to be fair he would have done a better job dead than alive

CapitalGreen
16-06-2021, 09:18 PM
I couldn't make it to the end, but after what I did read I was feeling more empathy for Hancock than Cummings.

Cummings, I grudgingly came to accept, was a phenomenal campaigner who completely rejuvenated Johnson's career (which was previously heading down the pan following his backstabbing by Gove and his dismal spell as Foreign Secretary) but now that he's lost the PM's ear he just comes across as little more than bitter and childish. Given his diminished standing in the public eye I suspect all this mud-slinging will have next to zero impact.

Was it empathy that drove you to vote for them despite claiming to be a Labour voter John?

Northernhibee
16-06-2021, 09:46 PM
I despise how they’re turning democracy and the death of over 130k people into The Jeremy Kyle show.

Kato
17-06-2021, 11:37 AM
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Moulin Yarns
17-06-2021, 11:43 AM
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I had to send this to my wife as she hates these things. 🤣

Kato
17-06-2021, 11:46 AM
I had to send this to my wife as she hates these things. [emoji1787]It's easier than most.

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Moulin Yarns
17-06-2021, 11:48 AM
It's easier than most.

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Yep. 😁

cabbageandribs1875
17-06-2021, 11:51 AM
SIR keir getting it tight from his back benchers

get Starmer out ffs :agree: at least corbyn would have ripped the blonde buffoon a new one

Labour MPs turn on Keir Starmer for missing 'easy win' over PM after Cummings' latest bombshell | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9693517/Labour-MPs-turn-Keir-Starmer-missing-easy-win-PM-Cummings-latest-bombshell.html)

wookie70
17-06-2021, 02:29 PM
SIR keir getting it tight from his back benchers

get Starmer out ffs :agree: at least corbyn would have ripped the blonde buffoon a new one

Labour MPs turn on Keir Starmer for missing 'easy win' over PM after Cummings' latest bombshell | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9693517/Labour-MPs-turn-Keir-Starmer-missing-easy-win-PM-Cummings-latest-bombshell.html)

No wonder, Johnson completely owns him at PMQs. Did he ever win any cases when he was a lawyer as he looks like a rabbit in the headlights as soon as an opposing view is returned to him. Corbyn was infinity better at PMQs and in every other way imo

G B Young
17-06-2021, 02:31 PM
I can’t figure how someone can have empathy for any of them tbh. The only one doing the right, or the least wrong thing, is Cummings. I don’t see anyone can read actual messages sent by the actual PM and not thing Hancock has to answer for what has happened, and so does Johnson for keeping him in post.

The SNP could hardly have been more contemptuous of Cummings last year yet are now claiming he needs to be taken seriously? A kind of reversal of their attitude to Salmond, the man who they thought could walk on water not so long ago but who they now revile.

This Cummings guff will blow over soon enough. Anyone with an interest in politics surely doesn't think it's all sweetness and light within a government? The pressure must be intense and there will be internal bust-ups all the time. Whatever Boris Johnson may have said privately about Hancock, it's probably no worse than Sturgeon has had say behind closed doors about Salmond (plus his Alba defectors) or indeed the likes of Margaret Ferrier, Natalie McGarry, Derek Mackay or Mark McDonald over the years.

Peevemor
17-06-2021, 02:34 PM
The SNP could hardly have been more contemptuous of Cummings last year yet are now claiming he needs to be taken seriously? A kind of reversal of their attitude to Salmond, the man who they thought could walk on water not so long ago but who they now revile.

This Cummings guff will blow over soon enough. Anyone with an interest in politics surely doesn't think it's all sweetness and light within a government? The pressure must be intense and there will be internal bust-ups all the time. Whatever Boris Johnson may have said privately about Hancock, it's probably no worse than Sturgeon has had say behind closed doors about Salmond (plus his Alba defectors) or indeed the likes of Margaret Ferrier, Natalie McGarry, Derek Mackay or Mark McDonald over the years.

What do you expect when Bojo's former bestie is dishing the dirt? Of course the Nats are going to love it!

Jones28
17-06-2021, 03:10 PM
The SNP could hardly have been more contemptuous of Cummings last year yet are now claiming he needs to be taken seriously? A kind of reversal of their attitude to Salmond, the man who they thought could walk on water not so long ago but who they now revile.

This Cummings guff will blow over soon enough. Anyone with an interest in politics surely doesn't think it's all sweetness and light within a government? The pressure must be intense and there will be internal bust-ups all the time. Whatever Boris Johnson may have said privately about Hancock, it's probably no worse than Sturgeon has had say behind closed doors about Salmond (plus his Alba defectors) or indeed the likes of Margaret Ferrier, Natalie McGarry, Derek Mackay or Mark McDonald over the years.

The difference is that it isn't being shown in Whatsapp conversations that have literally been on the news. Saying probably doesn't change that.

It's hardly admiring Cummings. People are allowed to be ***** and do things that the other side might see as good. I don't know about you, but if a former senior advisor to the government says "this is what happened, and here is the proof" I'm inclined to listen to what they have to say.

Callum_62
17-06-2021, 03:13 PM
The difference is that it isn't being shown in Whatsapp conversations that have literally been on the news. Saying probably doesn't change that.

It's hardly admiring Cummings. People are allowed to be ***** and do things that the other side might see as good. I don't know about you, but if a former senior advisor to the government says "this is what happened, and here is the proof" I'm inclined to listen to what they have to say.Na I'm sure if this was Sturgeon on the receiving end it would be brushed off as a highly volitile working environment

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Jack
17-06-2021, 03:19 PM
The SNP could hardly have been more contemptuous of Cummings last year yet are now claiming he needs to be taken seriously? A kind of reversal of their attitude to Salmond, the man who they thought could walk on water not so long ago but who they now revile.

This Cummings guff will blow over soon enough. Anyone with an interest in politics surely doesn't think it's all sweetness and light within a government? The pressure must be intense and there will be internal bust-ups all the time. Whatever Boris Johnson may have said privately about Hancock, it's probably no worse than Sturgeon has had say behind closed doors about Salmond (plus his Alba defectors) or indeed the likes of Margaret Ferrier, Natalie McGarry, Derek Mackay or Mark McDonald over the years.

It doesn't matter what party anyone aligns to, apart from the torys apparently, such disharmony at the heart of government is serious stuff.

It might even have been seriously funny if we weren't in the middle of a pandemic when decisions made by these idiots cost lives and untold harm to the economy ... and then there's the fallout from Brexit.

cabbageandribs1875
17-06-2021, 05:01 PM
https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/202981306_4133960346685708_2193585922914545200_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=KGNyApXT1z0AX8Rv8PX&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=86c0327134408738fad90e089d55fd00&oe=60CFF649

cabbageandribs1875
17-06-2021, 05:03 PM
Guy Hands is that fat slimy tory PoS that built up £525m debt in his four seasons care homes, the *******

wookie70
17-06-2021, 05:17 PM
The SNP could hardly have been more contemptuous of Cummings last year yet are now claiming he needs to be taken seriously? A kind of reversal of their attitude to Salmond, the man who they thought could walk on water not so long ago but who they now revile.

This Cummings guff will blow over soon enough. Anyone with an interest in politics surely doesn't think it's all sweetness and light within a government? The pressure must be intense and there will be internal bust-ups all the time. Whatever Boris Johnson may have said privately about Hancock, it's probably no worse than Sturgeon has had say behind closed doors about Salmond (plus his Alba defectors) or indeed the likes of Margaret Ferrier, Natalie McGarry, Derek Mackay or Mark McDonald over the years.

The SNP have got it right. It appears Johnson was pretty clueless and awaiting instructions from Cummings. That is way more than advising imo. Now Cummings has been emptied a Parliamentary Committee is calling him out and asking him to back up the account he gave. I suspect he will e able to back it all up.

There is saying things and being caught saying things. Johnson appears to have broken the ministerial code in terms of his comments on Hancock. I would imagine he has broken protocols in even using WhatsApp and similar. It is amazing how Johnson's premiership is exactly how many of us would imagine. Total incompetence, lying, laziness, bluster, appalling comms and a multitude of other character flaws were all obvious before he was elected but are even more apparent and massively more dangerous.

Radium
17-06-2021, 06:20 PM
The SNP could hardly have been more contemptuous of Cummings last year yet are now claiming he needs to be taken seriously? A kind of reversal of their attitude to Salmond, the man who they thought could walk on water not so long ago but who they now revile.

This Cummings guff will blow over soon enough. Anyone with an interest in politics surely doesn't think it's all sweetness and light within a government? The pressure must be intense and there will be internal bust-ups all the time. Whatever Boris Johnson may have said privately about Hancock, it's probably no worse than Sturgeon has had say behind closed doors about Salmond (plus his Alba defectors) or indeed the likes of Margaret Ferrier, Natalie McGarry, Derek Mackay or Mark McDonald over the years.

The Salmond comparison is fair. Many who oppose the SNP found new born belief in his character and thought he was going to bring down the Scottish Government.

Cummings is a similarly self serving stain on politics and we will need to see how it plays out.

My own opinion is that it will only set the battle lines in the Tory party for the fight to replace Johnson. Beyond that we have seen how broken the moral compass is in Westminster and there is no chance it will cost anyone their job.

Similar revelations around any of the (now) 6 Scottish Governments would have cost people their jobs


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lapsedhibee
17-06-2021, 06:21 PM
Whatever Boris Johnson may have said privately about Hancock, it's probably no worse than Sturgeon has had say behind closed doors about Salmond (plus his Alba defectors) or indeed the likes of Margaret Ferrier, Natalie McGarry, Derek Mackay or Mark McDonald over the years.

Interesting list of comparators for Hancock. Not sure about McDonald, but think all the rest have been looked at by polis for wrongdoing of one sort or another. Assume that your comparison includes a belief that the law should be looking at Hancock's actions too.

hibsbollah
17-06-2021, 06:39 PM
The SNP could hardly have been more contemptuous of Cummings last year yet are now claiming he needs to be taken seriously? A kind of reversal of their attitude to Salmond, the man who they thought could walk on water not so long ago but who they now revile.

This Cummings guff will blow over soon enough. Anyone with an interest in politics surely doesn't think it's all sweetness and light within a government? The pressure must be intense and there will be internal bust-ups all the time. Whatever Boris Johnson may have said privately about Hancock, it's probably no worse than Sturgeon has had say behind closed doors about Salmond (plus his Alba defectors) or indeed the likes of Margaret Ferrier, Natalie McGarry, Derek Mackay or Mark McDonald over the years.

Astonishing deflection. If my uncle had baws he would indeed be my auntie, but nothing like this level of febrile back-knifing has happened within the Scotland government structure. You may as well say this kind of thing probably happens behind closed doors in Somalia, or Peru. So what?

Kato
17-06-2021, 07:33 PM
The SNP could hardly have been more contemptuous of Cummings last year yet are now claiming he needs to be taken seriously?

That could be looked at as "look they are all f*kcing up and lying" last year with a twist to someone who was there revealing some of the *****ing up and lies this year. His lies and *****ing up will be revealed when someone else is shown the door.



This Cummings guff will blow over soon enough.

Probably right.


Anyone with an interest in politics surely doesn't think it's all sweetness and light within a government? The pressure must be intense and there will be internal bust-ups all the time. Whatever Boris Johnson may have said privately about Hancock, it's probably no worse than Sturgeon has had say behind closed doors about Salmond (plus his Alba defectors) or indeed the likes of Margaret Ferrier, Natalie McGarry, Derek Mackay or Mark McDonald over the years.

Is it about the rhetoric of the messaging? i thought it was about the lies and *****ups?

He's here!
17-06-2021, 08:28 PM
SIR keir getting it tight from his back benchers

get Starmer out ffs :agree: at least corbyn would have ripped the blonde buffoon a new one

Labour MPs turn on Keir Starmer for missing 'easy win' over PM after Cummings' latest bombshell | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9693517/Labour-MPs-turn-Keir-Starmer-missing-easy-win-PM-Cummings-latest-bombshell.html)

Corbyn, I'm afraid to say, just wasn't up to the job. He treated PMQs as a mini class war, with one eye on how his performance would play out on social (ist) media platforms. Cameron regularly batted him aside, May was as dismal an orator as Corbyn and Johnson just had to inject a bit of life into proceedings (even if much of it was guff) to leave Corbyn floundering. Electing him as leader set the Labour Party back, I'd say, at least another five years on top of the damage wrought by Milliband. I hold out hope that if some semblance of 'normal' politics returns before the next election Starmer can yet prove his worth, but thus far I'll admit it's not looking too hopeful.

Kato
17-06-2021, 09:25 PM
Corbyn, I'm afraid to say, just wasn't up to the job. He treated PMQs as a mini class war, with one eye on how his performance would play out on social (ist) media platforms. Cameron regularly batted him aside, May was as dismal an orator as Corbyn and Johnson just had to inject a bit of life into proceedings (even if much of it was guff) to leave Corbyn floundering. Electing him as leader set the Labour Party back, I'd say, at least another five years on top of the damage wrought by Milliband. I hold out hope that if some semblance of 'normal' politics returns before the next election Starmer can yet prove his worth, but thus far I'll admit it's not looking too hopeful.

All Johnson has to do is that thing where he makes a fist, with his thumb resting out on top of his his fingers, push his hand forward to emphasise his word salad and that's enough to clamp Starmer shut. It's a car crash. I think "waiting for the pandemic to be over before taking the govt to task" has also been disastrous. Probably one that had to be taken but that's the breaks.

Future17
17-06-2021, 10:36 PM
The SNP could hardly have been more contemptuous of Cummings last year yet are now claiming he needs to be taken seriously? A kind of reversal of their attitude to Salmond, the man who they thought could walk on water not so long ago but who they now revile.

This Cummings guff will blow over soon enough. Anyone with an interest in politics surely doesn't think it's all sweetness and light within a government? The pressure must be intense and there will be internal bust-ups all the time. Whatever Boris Johnson may have said privately about Hancock, it's probably no worse than Sturgeon has had say behind closed doors about Salmond (plus his Alba defectors) or indeed the likes of Margaret Ferrier, Natalie McGarry, Derek Mackay or Mark McDonald over the years.

You may or may not be right with the above. I personally couldn't care less about Johnson's opinion of Hancock.

However, the point is, if he felt Hancock was hopeless, why did he leave him in such an important position during the biggest national health emergency in any of our lifetimes?

660
17-06-2021, 11:14 PM
Corbyn, I'm afraid to say, just wasn't up to the job. He treated PMQs as a mini class war, with one eye on how his performance would play out on social (ist) media platforms. Cameron regularly batted him aside, May was as dismal an orator as Corbyn and Johnson just had to inject a bit of life into proceedings (even if much of it was guff) to leave Corbyn floundering. Electing him as leader set the Labour Party back, I'd say, at least another five years on top of the damage wrought by Milliband. I hold out hope that if some semblance of 'normal' politics returns before the next election Starmer can yet prove his worth, but thus far I'll admit it's not looking too hopeful.

Ah yes socialist media

cabbageandribs1875
18-06-2021, 02:13 AM
haw haw haw



Lib Dems won the Chesham and Amersham by-election today by 8,028 votes
Previously the Tories had never lost it and had a 16,000 majority in 2019 election
Liberal Democrat candidate Sarah Green polled 21,517 votes, 57% of the total
Lib Dem leader Ed Davey said win shows 'Tory blue wall is beginning to crumble'
By-election was called following the death of Tory MP Dame Cheryl Gillan in April

JimBHibees
18-06-2021, 06:05 AM
I despise how they’re turning democracy and the death of over 130k people into The Jeremy Kyle show.

Yep I think it is sheer distraction and probably planned by Cumming with the full agreement of Johnson

hibsbollah
18-06-2021, 06:34 AM
haw haw haw



Lib Dems won the Chesham and Amersham by-election today by 8,028 votes
Previously the Tories had never lost it and had a 16,000 majority in 2019 election
Liberal Democrat candidate Sarah Green polled 21,517 votes, 57% of the total
Lib Dem leader Ed Davey said win shows 'Tory blue wall is beginning to crumble'
By-election was called following the death of Tory MP Dame Cheryl Gillan in April


So Hartlepool is Tory, and deepest Buckinghamshire isnt.
England is a bit mental.

lapsedhibee
18-06-2021, 06:57 AM
So Hartlepool is Tory, and deepest Buckinghamshire isnt.
England is a bit mental.

Wee sign there, though, that perhaps some English voters are beginning to return to their senses? :dunno:

Moulin Yarns
18-06-2021, 07:24 AM
haw haw haw



Lib Dems won the Chesham and Amersham by-election today by 8,028 votes
Previously the Tories had never lost it and had a 16,000 majority in 2019 election
Liberal Democrat candidate Sarah Green polled 21,517 votes, 57% of the total
Lib Dem leader Ed Davey said win shows 'Tory blue wall is beginning to crumble'
By-election was called following the death of Tory MP Dame Cheryl Gillan in April


The green candidate was 3rd ahead of labour as well.

JeMeSouviens
18-06-2021, 09:53 AM
Wee sign there, though, that perhaps some English voters are beginning to return to their senses? :dunno:

Not really. The Libs won by opposing HS2 and new house building. It's basically a GIRUY from the NIMBYs.

lapsedhibee
18-06-2021, 10:16 AM
Not really. The Libs won by opposing HS2 and new house building. It's basically a GIRUY from the NIMBYs.
Am hoping a lot of Lab voters voted LibDem to ensure a bloody nose for Johnson's lot, and that that behaviour will be reciprocated in Batley & Spen, and if it is a little prgress will have been made.

JeMeSouviens
18-06-2021, 10:21 AM
Am hoping a lot of Lab voters voted LibDem to ensure a bloody nose for Johnson's lot, and that that behaviour will be reciprocated in Batley & Spen, and if it is a little prgress will have been made.

We can but hope I guess.

Moulin Yarns
18-06-2021, 10:24 AM
Am hoping a lot of Lab voters voted LibDem to ensure a bloody nose for Johnson's lot, and that that behaviour will be reciprocated in Batley & Spen, and if it is a little prgress will have been made.


We can but hope I guess.

Remember, this was the constituency of Jo Cox. I'd be surprised if Labour don't return a decent majority.

JeMeSouviens
18-06-2021, 10:26 AM
Dominic Cummings @Dominic2306

7/ Pundits: not doing ANeil 'a huge campaign blunder'
Me: why the ***** wd be put a gaffe machine clueless about policy & government up to be grilled for ages, upside=0 for what?! This is not a hard decision...
Pundits don't understand comms, power or management. Tune out!

One thing you can't accuse Dom of is not having a realistic picture of his boss.

hibsbollah
18-06-2021, 10:43 AM
Wee sign there, though, that perhaps some English voters are beginning to return to their senses? :dunno:

…or there’s just some weird pathological need to vote for whichever party is diametrically opposed to their best interests?

Radium
18-06-2021, 05:24 PM
So if you are not happy with scrutiny, neuter

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/boris-johnson-accused-of-attack-on-democracy-over-plan-to-neuter-watchdog/


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Kato
18-06-2021, 05:42 PM
So if you are not happy with scrutiny, neuter

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/boris-johnson-accused-of-attack-on-democracy-over-plan-to-neuter-watchdog/


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIt's more infiltrate and control it. Some of the "independent" polling companies will be the same.

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Hibernia&Alba
18-06-2021, 06:21 PM
haw haw haw



Lib Dems won the Chesham and Amersham by-election today by 8,028 votes
Previously the Tories had never lost it and had a 16,000 majority in 2019 election
Liberal Democrat candidate Sarah Green polled 21,517 votes, 57% of the total
Lib Dem leader Ed Davey said win shows 'Tory blue wall is beginning to crumble'
By-election was called following the death of Tory MP Dame Cheryl Gillan in April




What crazy times we are in: the Tories win Hartlepool then lose Chesham & Amersham. :confused:

Bostonhibby
18-06-2021, 06:32 PM
Not really. The Libs won by opposing HS2 and new house building. It's basically a GIRUY from the NIMBYs.Yep, divert HS2 to someone else's doorstep and only allow high end "executive" development by the favoured few and the Nimbys will be right behind the Nasty party again next election.

Not the first time won't be the last time.

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Just Alf
18-06-2021, 06:33 PM
What crazy times we are in: the Tories win Hartlepool then lose Chesham & Amersham. :confused:And Labour close to loosing their deposit!

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Jack
18-06-2021, 06:56 PM
If he survives the court case surely Labour would be looking to regain Wakefield at the next election.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-57531904

Mr Grieves
18-06-2021, 10:58 PM
So if you are not happy with scrutiny, neuter

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/boris-johnson-accused-of-attack-on-democracy-over-plan-to-neuter-watchdog/

That's dodgy as ****.

The sort of thing you could imagine the BBC making a big deal of if it was happening in another country

neil7908
19-06-2021, 12:24 AM
Wee sign there, though, that perhaps some English voters are beginning to return to their senses? :dunno:

We're turning into America. The right win working class voters by starting culture wars and wrapping themselves in the flag. Middle class rural areas move from soft right to the centre. The left are f***ed.

Ozyhibby
19-06-2021, 07:21 AM
Murray Ross in the England end last night.
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Moulin Yarns
19-06-2021, 08:33 AM
Murray Ross in the England end last night.
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To be honest, there really wasn't an england end at Wembley, never is when playing Scotland 😉

Bostonhibby
19-06-2021, 09:22 AM
Murray Ross in the England end last night.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210619/37edf2f4dd4075a1aeddd1c18d45f90c.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMurray's Coming Home?

Wonder if Beckham's ever heard of him.



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Smartie
19-06-2021, 10:33 AM
Murray's Coming Home?

Wonder if Beckham's ever heard of him.



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If Boris Johnson doesn't know who he is then there's no chance Beckham will.

Future17
19-06-2021, 12:27 PM
If Boris Johnson doesn't know who he is then there's no chance Beckham will.

Although to be fair, Ross spends more time on the football pitch than he does being a politician.

Peevemor
19-06-2021, 07:08 PM
Bercow joins Labour on a Bosman.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/19/john-bercow-defects-to-labour-with-withering-attack-on-johnson

Moulin Yarns
20-06-2021, 11:12 AM
Bercow joins Labour on a Bosman.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/19/john-bercow-defects-to-labour-with-withering-attack-on-johnson

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/john-bercow-peerage-labour-leadership-commons-speaker-latest-a9292421.html

Interesting take on the reason 🤔

Bostonhibby
20-06-2021, 11:26 AM
If Boris Johnson doesn't know who he is then there's no chance Beckham will.David Beckham fulfills childhood dream by finally meeting Topov the Monkey.

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Kato
22-06-2021, 06:13 PM
https://i.ibb.co/c2WM5B6/a576HkN.jpg (https://ibb.co/HGc1vSt)

Hiber-nation
22-06-2021, 09:48 PM
https://i.ibb.co/c2WM5B6/a576HkN.jpg (https://ibb.co/HGc1vSt)

Thanks - cheered me up a wee bit after tonight.

Bostonhibby
22-06-2021, 10:48 PM
https://i.ibb.co/c2WM5B6/a576HkN.jpg (https://ibb.co/HGc1vSt)Car crash figure, taught Chris Grayling everything he knows about botch ups.

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cabbageandribs1875
23-06-2021, 01:41 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Six more VIP-lane companies revealed - Good Law Project (https://goodlawproject.org/update/vip-lane-companies-revealed/?fbclid=IwAR06S7w7efkP6WLsfx1AoqrLSS1WM28RluSgxMPE LH5Ctm91_ZETUHM0C-o)

Good Law Project is now able to reveal the names of six more companies awarded PPE contracts through the controversial’ VIP’ fast-track lane for associates of ministers and advisers. These six firms landed nearly half a billion pounds of public contracts – all without competition – and were uncovered in documents prised from Government in the course of our litigation:


they're doing good work in outing the repugnant Tory corruptness, even though it will most likely not come to anything

cabbageandribs1875
23-06-2021, 02:01 PM
MPs launch legal challenge against Govt over alleged Russian interference in UK elections (thelondoneconomic.com) (https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/mps-launch-legal-challenge-against-govt-over-alleged-russian-interference-in-uk-elections-277485/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=ukineu&fbclid=IwAR1UvLRD1oiQVNkE-vqRZTB5HSnM22g-n-qVU5vHO0abnk3ZX-r-juc3Y2o)

A cross-party group of MPs and peers will ask the High Court to give the go-ahead for a legal challenge against the Government over its alleged failure to investigate possible Russian interference in UK elections.
Six parliamentarians claim Boris Johnson unlawfully failed to act following a report they say found “credible evidence” of attempts to “interfere with the UK’s electoral processes from at least the time of the EU referendum in 2016”.

Moulin Yarns
24-06-2021, 12:10 PM
https://news.stv.tv/politics/rees-mogg-defends-use-of-covid-funding-for-union-polling


"any other government would have done the same"

He might be right, but no other government tries to control what other countries do.

Kato
24-06-2021, 12:45 PM
https://news.stv.tv/politics/rees-mogg-defends-use-of-covid-funding-for-union-polling


"any other government would have done the same"

He might be right, but no other government tries to control what other countries do."completely proper and justifiable”

Then goes to provide zero reasons why it was proper or any actual justifications. He says it in a posh accent though, while wearing olde worlde kegs, so it'll fly with a lot of people.

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lapsedhibee
24-06-2021, 12:54 PM
"completely proper and justifiable”

Then goes to provide zero reasons why it was proper or any actual justifications. He says it in a posh accent though, while wearing olde worlde kegs, so it'll fly with a lot of people.


It'll be some public school jape/bet they're up to, "See who can insult the public's intelligence most without getting pulled up by the MSM, winner gets Chancellor of the Duchy of Mornington", something like that.

weecounty hibby
24-06-2021, 01:00 PM
It just feels like England is so mired in the class structure of Royalty, Lords/Ladies, landed gentry, upper class, middle class and working class that people will accept bull**** as long as that bull**** is coming from their supposed betters. I can't see how else these ****ers are getting away with it. Waffle in a posh accent, throw in a bit of Latin, mention some Greek god and then move on, it is mass blindness by the whole of the country. The whole royalty thing is mind blowing as well. Marry a black American and be a but outspoken and we'll hound you, be besties with a paedophile, appear to like girls on the young side and refuse to answer questions from the authorities about it and that's ok then.

Ozyhibby
24-06-2021, 02:47 PM
https://news.stv.tv/politics/mp-backs-campaign-to-put-portrait-of-queen-in-every-home?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Getting weirder every day. Union Jack armbands for govt officials can’t be far away.


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JimBHibees
24-06-2021, 02:53 PM
It just feels like England is so mired in the class structure of Royalty, Lords/Ladies, landed gentry, upper class, middle class and working class that people will accept bull**** as long as that bull**** is coming from their supposed betters. I can't see how else these ****ers are getting away with it. Waffle in a posh accent, throw in a bit of Latin, mention some Greek god and then move on, it is mass blindness by the whole of the country. The whole royalty thing is mind blowing as well. Marry a black American and be a but outspoken and we'll hound you, be besties with a paedophile, appear to like girls on the young side and refuse to answer questions from the authorities about it and that's ok then.

Just about sums it up. Incredible

Lendo
24-06-2021, 03:50 PM
https://news.stv.tv/politics/mp-backs-campaign-to-put-portrait-of-queen-in-every-home?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Getting weirder every day. Union Jack armbands for govt officials can’t be far away.


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That could genuinely be a Daily Mash article. This is utter madness.

Just Alf
24-06-2021, 04:02 PM
https://news.stv.tv/politics/mp-backs-campaign-to-put-portrait-of-queen-in-every-home?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Getting weirder every day. Union Jack armbands for govt officials can’t be far away.


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You'd think they'd want to get on with the day job ..... Covid recovery anyone?


Of course, just realised, they might have a pal that's a printer/picture framer needing a few million quid....... silly me! :rolleyes:

Bostonhibby
24-06-2021, 04:48 PM
You'd think they'd want to get on with the day job ..... Covid recovery anyone?


Of course, just realised, they might have a pal that's a printer/picture framer needing a few million quid....... silly me! :rolleyes:Guy who runs a pub? Somewhere near Hancock's constituency?
Had a go at PPE with £13m up front, never worked out but surely deserves a second chance?

With another similar amount framing a picture should be possible, especially if there's no competition or scrutiny.

**** Might even have a go myself.....

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neil7908
24-06-2021, 10:21 PM
https://news.stv.tv/politics/mp-backs-campaign-to-put-portrait-of-queen-in-every-home?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Getting weirder every day. Union Jack armbands for govt officials can’t be far away.


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Holy **** this is terrifying. North Koreans are cringing at this.

degenerated
25-06-2021, 05:40 AM
Matt Hancock outed by the sun as having been pumping his top adviser. In typical Tory fashion he's been using public money in order to hear Nat King Cole sing his very greatest hits.

24834

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lapsedhibee
25-06-2021, 06:01 AM
Matt Hancock outed by the sun as having been pumping his top adviser. In typical Tory fashion he's been using public money in order to hear Nat King Cole sing his very greatest hits.

24834


Probably just relieving some stress, so that he didn't end up accidentally calling anyone ****ing hopeless.

Bostonhibby
25-06-2021, 07:01 AM
Matt Hancock outed by the sun as having been pumping his top adviser. In typical Tory fashion he's been using public money in order to hear Nat King Cole sing his very greatest hits.

24834

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Glory Lurker
25-06-2021, 07:34 AM
The Sun curiously missing from the BBC website's section on the front pages.

Kato
25-06-2021, 07:48 AM
Matt Hancock outed by the sun as having been pumping his top adviser. In typical Tory fashion he's been using public money in order to hear Nat King Cole sing his very greatest hits.

24834

They just asked Grant Schapp about this on GMTV. He "refused to comment on private matters", probably rightly but thought that the question merited invoking the go to get out of jail free card that is "the vaccine programme" and that we've now taken over Israel in jabs.

It's the answer for every tricky question.

Skol
25-06-2021, 07:59 AM
Hancock surely will be removed from post shortly. Problem is who then replaces him.

overdrive
25-06-2021, 08:56 AM
Matt Hancock outed by the sun as having been pumping his top adviser. In typical Tory fashion he's been using public money in order to hear Nat King Cole sing his very greatest hits.

24834

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What on earth does his 'adviser' see in him, particularly in comparison to her husband? Is it a power thing? Did she really think he might be PM material?

wookie70
25-06-2021, 08:58 AM
Matt Hancock outed by the sun as having been pumping his top adviser. In typical Tory fashion he's been using public money in order to hear Nat King Cole sing his very greatest hits.

24834

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I'm more concerned by how she was hired and what she is bringing to the role. It is yet another dodgy deal potentially completed out with the normal rules for recruitment. We already know Hancock is slimy and untrustworthy so an affair is hardly tarnishing his good name, he simply doesn't have one to lose

Keith_M
25-06-2021, 09:00 AM
The video was taken by CCTV in Hancock's office and released to the press by an 'unknown source'

Hancock has clearly been thrown under the bus by whoever is actually in charge at Downing St.

Keith_M
25-06-2021, 09:04 AM
I'm more concerned by how she was hired and what she is bringing to the role. It is yet another dodgy deal potentially completed out with the normal rules for recruitment. We already know Hancock is slimy and untrustworthy so an affair is hardly tarnishing his good name, he simply doesn't have one to lose


:agree:



"Rich businesswoman found to be acting as 'unpaid advisor' to government minister" should be the headline.

overdrive
25-06-2021, 09:16 AM
I listen to Radio X in the morning. They are running a bizarre different take on the story. Absolutely no mention of an affair and they are reporting the issue as Hancock hugging a friend when it wasn’t allowed :faf:

Future17
25-06-2021, 09:20 AM
:agree:



"Rich businesswoman found to be acting as 'unpaid advisor' to government minister" should be the headline.

I don't think she was unpaid. £15,000 - £20,000 for 10-15 days a year is what I read.

Shapps called the story a "red herring", but didn't add anything to explain what he actually meant. He also said the aide would have been through an "incredibly rigorous" process to get the job...which has horrible connotations.

lapsedhibee
25-06-2021, 09:23 AM
Shapps called the story a "red herring", but didn't add anything to explain what he actually meant.
A distraction from the incredibly important culture wars they've got to fight? :dunno:

Keith_M
25-06-2021, 09:26 AM
I don't think she was unpaid. £15,000 - £20,000 for 10-15 days a year is what I read.

Shapps called the story a "red herring", but didn't add anything to explain what he actually meant. He also said the aide would have been through an "incredibly rigorous" process to get the job...which has horrible connotations.


OK, the Sun reported it as 'unpaid advisor', so they were wrong again.

Here's a better bit of background from The Independent.

"The woman Matt Hancock allegedly had an affair with is a millionaire mother-of-three who is the marketing and communications director at independent high street retailer Oliver Bonas.

Gina Coladangelo was reportedly caught on camera kissing the beleaguered health secretary in pictures published by The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15388014/matt-hancock-secret-affair-with-aide/) early on Friday morning.

The 43-year-old, who was previously a director at lobbying firm Luther Pendragon, met Mr Hancock at Oxford University where they became close friends over a shared passion for student radio.

She studied politics, philosophy and economics (PPE) and reportedly continued to be close friends with Mr Hancock after completing her studies in 1998, the same year as Mr Hancock.

Ms Coladangelo was handed a role as non-executive director at the Department for Health and Social Care (DHSC) in September last year."


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/matt-hancock-affair-gina-coladangelo-b1872560.html

Future17
25-06-2021, 09:30 AM
OK, the Sun reported it as 'unpaid advisor', so they were wrong again.

Here's a better bit of background from The Independent.

"The woman Matt Hancock allegedly had an affair with is a millionaire mother-of-three who is the marketing and communications director at independent high street retailer Oliver Bonas.

Gina Coladangelo was reportedly caught on camera kissing the beleaguered health secretary in pictures published by The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15388014/matt-hancock-secret-affair-with-aide/) early on Friday morning.

The 43-year-old, who was previously a director at lobbying firm Luther Pendragon, met Mr Hancock at Oxford University where they became close friends over a shared passion for student radio.

She studied politics, philosophy and economics (PPE) and reportedly continued to be close friends with Mr Hancock after completing her studies in 1998, the same year as Mr Hancock.

Ms Coladangelo was handed a role as non-executive director at the Department for Health and Social Care (DHSC) in September last year."


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/matt-hancock-affair-gina-coladangelo-b1872560.html

Success! Finally the Tories have given public money to someone who has genuine expertise in PPE!

One Day Soon
25-06-2021, 09:51 AM
Slightly tricky one for all the parties this because they've pretty much all had recent sex scandals so its hard to attack it without inducing 'but what about' responses.

He'll have to go, either now or soon.

Jones28
25-06-2021, 09:58 AM
If 140,000 deaths, the prime minister calling him ****ing hopeless and pumping a close adviser doesn’t see the end of Hancock then **** knows what will. Maybe he’ll be found to have wiped it on a Union Jack, that’ll finish him off.

Future17
25-06-2021, 10:16 AM
Slightly tricky one for all the parties this because they've pretty much all had recent sex scandals so its hard to attack it without inducing 'but what about' responses.

He'll have to go, either now or soon.

It's not the sex that's the scandal though (at least not these days). It's whether the sex played a part I'm her getting a financially lucrative Government position.

No other party has faced those questions recently.

heretoday
25-06-2021, 10:18 AM
It just goes to show that despite wearing a mask it's still possible to catch "aides".

Northernhibee
25-06-2021, 10:28 AM
It's not the sex that's the scandal though (at least not these days). It's whether the sex played a part I'm her getting a financially lucrative Government position.

No other party has faced those questions recently.

Johnson had his name in the papers with Arcuri too.

Ozyhibby
25-06-2021, 10:31 AM
Johnson had his name in the papers with Arcuri too.

Again, the scandal is the huge amounts of public money he gave her.


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Bostonhibby
25-06-2021, 10:45 AM
:agree:



"Rich businesswoman found to be acting as 'unpaid advisor' to government minister" should be the headline.Like this?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-affair-jennifer-arcuri-23798478.amp

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Northernhibee
25-06-2021, 10:47 AM
Again, the scandal is the huge amounts of public money he gave her.


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Exactly. But it’s why Handcock will get away with it.

cabbageandribs1875
25-06-2021, 11:50 AM
https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/203757731_4180187648704701_109426797472724807_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=I6a_s-ejqeMAX8bu6Pw&tn=5m7pnQZ1SlTC4D2w&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=65091b4f5da89dfd983972ea864b1e4a&oe=60DA6557

Northernhibee
25-06-2021, 12:14 PM
Hancock apologises for not following social distancing guidelines 😂😂😂

They’re blatantly, openly ripping the piss out of us.

Bristolhibby
25-06-2021, 12:16 PM
Hancock apologises for not following social distancing guidelines 😂😂😂

They’re blatantly, openly ripping the piss out of us.

It used to be resignations, now it’s apologies.

Apologise to your wife and then resign.

J

Hibernia&Alba
25-06-2021, 12:21 PM
It used to be resignations, now it’s apologies.

Apologise to your wife and then resign.

J

Politicians don't resign for any reason now, sadly. Hancock should have gone when details emerged of his making a fortune (along with friends) via PPE during the pandemic. His private life is his own business; however, this story reminds me of my dear old gran, who used to describe Tory politicians as "money grabbers and fornicators". :greengrin

bringbackbenny
25-06-2021, 12:35 PM
https://news.stv.tv/politics/mp-backs-campaign-to-put-portrait-of-queen-in-every-home?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Getting weirder every day. Union Jack armbands for govt officials can’t be far away.


That could genuinely be a Daily Mash article. This is utter madness.


even worse than the Mash!, I initially read the Morrissey surname mention and thought the old racist bigot Steven Patrick Morrissey was behind it :faf:.



The campaign, launched by Morrissey along with the British Monarchists Society, seeks to offer a picture of the Queen to “every home, company and institution that would like one”.

Pretty Boy
25-06-2021, 12:36 PM
Hancock has the safest job in government.

He's been lined up as the fall guy in any enquiry since day one so the longer he remains, the more can be blamed on him. Also Cummings wants him gone so he stays. Finally he's about the only person in the entirety of the UK, and quite likely some way beyond, who can make Johnson look semi competent in comparison.

Johnson has declared the matter closed so that will be that. The days of an affair or a fling bringing a govt down are long gone.

Northernhibee
25-06-2021, 12:43 PM
Hancock has the safest job in government.

He's been lined up as the fall guy in any enquiry since day one so the longer he remains, the more can be blamed on him. Also Cummings wants him gone so he stays. Finally he's about the only person in the entirety of the UK, and quite likely some way beyond, who can make Johnson look semi competent in comparison.

Johnson has declared the matter closed so that will be that. The days of an affair or a fling bringing a govt down are long gone.

He’s taken over from Chris Grayling in many respects. A lucrative job for the shameless Tory.

hibsbollah
25-06-2021, 12:57 PM
Matt Hancock the Love Machine.
Unlikely but apparently true.

blackpoolhibs
25-06-2021, 12:59 PM
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Hibernia&Alba
25-06-2021, 01:05 PM
Matt Hancock the Love Machine.
Unlikely but apparently true.

Must be hung like a Derby winner.

Bostonhibby
25-06-2021, 01:08 PM
Must be hung like a Derby winner.Apparently one of his hobbies is riding horses.

No evidence so far that any of the horses have been been awarded any PPE contracts or been given lucrative jobs with the NHS.

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Future17
25-06-2021, 01:12 PM
Apparently one of his hobbies is riding horses.

No evidence so far that any of the horses have been been awarded any PPE contracts or been given lucrative jobs with the NHS.

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No, but Dido Harding sits on the Board of The Jockey Club.

Bostonhibby
25-06-2021, 01:15 PM
No, but Dido Harding sits on the Board of The Jockey Club.I'll stop there I think, this is a family forum [emoji6]

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degenerated
25-06-2021, 01:43 PM
Must be hung like a Derby winner.That TV interview with him getting inappropriately close with a Tory candidate outside a hospital whilst sporting a stauner should yield the answer to that. :greengrin

https://youtu.be/HxbPs9M6H6M

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lapsedhibee
25-06-2021, 01:48 PM
That TV interview with him getting inappropriately close with a Tory candidate outside a hospital whilst sporting a stauner should yield the answer to that. :greengrin

https://youtu.be/HxbPs9M6H6M


:faf::faf::faf:

overdrive
25-06-2021, 01:49 PM
https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/25/hancock-deletes-insta-story-about-brilliant-women-after-snog-picture-emerged-14826660/

:lips seal:faf:

Hibernia&Alba
25-06-2021, 01:55 PM
That TV interview with him getting inappropriately close with a Tory candidate outside a hospital whilst sporting a stauner should yield the answer to that. :greengrin

https://youtu.be/HxbPs9M6H6M

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What the hell is that? I've never felt so uncomfortable :greengrin

hibsbollah
25-06-2021, 02:08 PM
That TV interview with him getting inappropriately close with a Tory candidate outside a hospital whilst sporting a stauner should yield the answer to that. :greengrin

https://youtu.be/HxbPs9M6H6M

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:faf:

Anyone else think there’s any mileage in the theory that Handjob is being sacrificed here to take him out of the front line for when the covid mishandling questions start being asked? Much better have all the focus on his sexual appetite, not on the death toll in care homes. This footage was filmed in his own office, remember, and ‘leaked’ by The Sun.

neil7908
25-06-2021, 02:15 PM
Hate to quote Trump but these guys could shoot someone in the middle of the street and not lose any votes.

heretoday
25-06-2021, 03:51 PM
:faf::faf::faf:

"sporting a stauner". That's magnificent.

Jones28
25-06-2021, 05:18 PM
That TV interview with him getting inappropriately close with a Tory candidate outside a hospital whilst sporting a stauner should yield the answer to that. :greengrin

https://youtu.be/HxbPs9M6H6M

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Sporting a stauner 😂😂😂😂

Jack
25-06-2021, 05:27 PM
Again, the scandal is the huge amounts of public money he gave her.


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Does that make her the most expensive hooker in history?

heretoday
25-06-2021, 05:59 PM
This story is a classic tactic by the government to take us all back to former times.

What could be more guaranteed to raise a smile than "Trousers Down Minister In Bonking Scandal"?

Ah, the traditional British way of life..............

H18S NX
25-06-2021, 06:04 PM
That TV interview with him getting inappropriately close with a Tory candidate outside a hospital whilst sporting a stauner should yield the answer to that. :greengrin

https://youtu.be/HxbPs9M6H6M

Sent from my CPH2009 using Tapatalk...Pure brilliant.:faf::faf::faf::top marks:applause:

cabbageandribs1875
25-06-2021, 09:14 PM
i imagine that 14 point lead is even higher now

cabbageandribs1875
25-06-2021, 09:36 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Senior Tory councillor unmasked as man behind anti-SNP troll account (thecourier.co.uk) (https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/2333863/exclusive-senior-tory-councillor-unmasked-as-man-behind-anti-snp-troll-account/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)


A senior Tory councillor has finally admitted he is the man behind an anonymous anti-SNP troll account fashioned after the Lady Whistledown character in the popular Netflix series Bridgerton.

Mr Wann repeatedly rubbished any suggestion he was involved with the account, including after being contacted by us just after 4pm on Thursday with fresh allegations, but issued a statement just over an hour later apologising for his actions.

shameful behaviour, a councillor tae :bitchy:


what's with Tories hiding behind different names/non de plumes, freaks :agree:

easty
25-06-2021, 10:57 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/StillGameReacts/status/1408536781096689667?s=08

Curried
26-06-2021, 02:14 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/StillGameReacts/status/1408536781096689667?s=08

Brilliant. And here was me thinking Gruber was gay.

Ozyhibby
26-06-2021, 04:25 AM
One of them are going to have to leave their post. Are the Tories really going to sack the female?


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Keith_M
26-06-2021, 09:12 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/StillGameReacts/status/1408536781096689667?s=08



:greengrin


So, Navid accidentally linked up his CCTV to Downing street!

Hibrandenburg
26-06-2021, 09:15 AM
:greengrin


So, Navid accidentally linked up his CCTV to Downing street!

Aye, that's him as good as deported.

CapitalGreen
26-06-2021, 11:46 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Senior Tory councillor unmasked as man behind anti-SNP troll account (thecourier.co.uk) (https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/2333863/exclusive-senior-tory-councillor-unmasked-as-man-behind-anti-snp-troll-account/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)

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[COLOR=#353535]A senior Tory councillor has finally admitted he is the man behind an anonymous anti-SNP troll account fashioned after the Lady Whistledown character in the popular Netflix series Bridgerton.


I can’t get my head around these people that run anonymous twitter accounts purely for the purpose of noising up MPs, footballers and suchlike. I could understand it being a bored teenager in their bedroom but many turn out to be grown adults with families and well respected jobs. Like, what has happened to them to turn a seemingly normal member of society into someone who sends tens of thousands of tweets a year in the hope of getting an interaction back from people they obviously don’t like?

Kato
26-06-2021, 11:52 AM
I can’t get my head around these people that run anonymous twitter accounts purely for the purpose of noising up MPs, footballers and suchlike. I could understand it being a bored teenager in their bedroom but many turn out to be grown adults with families and well respected jobs. Like, what has happened to them to turn a seemingly normal member of society into someone who sends tens of thousands of tweets a year in the hope of getting an interaction back from people they obviously don’t like?Seemingly normal but turns out to actually be a snide, two faced weirdo.

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Ozyhibby
26-06-2021, 02:22 PM
A good sign Hancock is about to jump or be sacked is if the Scottish Tories say he should go. No way will they say anything until the decision has been made.


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Ozyhibby
26-06-2021, 05:16 PM
Hancock has resigned. BBC should be able to find Douglas Ross now where he’ll say he had to go.


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neil7908
26-06-2021, 05:17 PM
Hancock has resigned. BBC should be able to find Douglas Ross now where he’ll say he had to go.


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Where are you seeing this? Can't find anything

cabbageandribs1875
26-06-2021, 05:20 PM
BREAKING Health Secretary Matt Hancock resigns amid backlash over Covid breach - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-health-secretary-matt-hancock-24401011)

Tobias Funke
26-06-2021, 05:23 PM
BREAKING Health Secretary Matt Hancock resigns amid backlash over Covid breach - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-health-secretary-matt-hancock-24401011)

No way Matt Thec*ck was surviving that. Had to go.

Ozyhibby
26-06-2021, 05:24 PM
No way Matt Thec*ck was surviving that. Had to go.

Absolutely. There was no way they could carry on working together and there was no way they could sack her and not him.


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cabbageandribs1875
26-06-2021, 05:29 PM
now they should reclaim the tax-payers £28m PPE contract gifted to his bit on the sides brother





nah, doubt it

Ozyhibby
26-06-2021, 05:32 PM
now they should reclaim the tax-payers £28m PPE contract gifted to his bit on the sides brother





nah, doubt it

He could be filling his own pockets by suing the dept of health? The release of that video is illegal and they both have a legitimate case for a large compensation payout.


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stokesmessiah
26-06-2021, 05:33 PM
Wonder if Cummings had a hand in this?

WoreTheGreen
26-06-2021, 05:40 PM
Wonder if Cummings had a hand in this?

If she went with him I am sure a lot of hands have been in this

Glory Lurker
26-06-2021, 06:26 PM
Amazing that Hancock goes for that, but not for the other things he's done. Very, very convenient.

lapsedhibee
26-06-2021, 06:32 PM
Amazing that Hancock goes for that, but not for the other things he's done. Very, very convenient.

Jo Maugham will still be going after him. https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1408490348184281099

Glory Lurker
26-06-2021, 06:35 PM
Jo Maugham will still be going after him. https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1408490348184281099

Good.

cabbageandribs1875
26-06-2021, 07:09 PM
replaced by another repugnant little nasty, Javid

cabbageandribs1875
26-06-2021, 07:10 PM
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/206721655_349899866495755_509627975432900330_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=VlISjzdBkKMAX9uhIUh&tn=5m7pnQZ1SlTC4D2w&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=e3c1d16eee83776c2f1ee23873b68228&oe=60DCA174

NORTHERNHIBBY
26-06-2021, 07:14 PM
Should really call into question Bojos judgement that he thought this was a matter closed on an insincere apology. Should do and will do are different questions though.

Jones28
26-06-2021, 07:23 PM
But but, our illustrious PM said it was done and dusted?

Ah well, I guess it’ll be Matt Handcock for the foreseeable.

WoreTheGreen
26-06-2021, 07:32 PM
But but, our illustrious PM said it was done and dusted?

Ah well, I guess it’ll be Matt Handcock for the foreseeable.

There’s only two people in this world liers and W,,,,,ks

hibsbollah
26-06-2021, 07:55 PM
replaced by another repugnant little nasty, Javid

…who hates Boris and got engaged in a slanging match with him after leaving cabinet. Weird.

cabbageandribs1875
26-06-2021, 08:12 PM
…who hates Boris and got engaged in a slanging match with him after leaving cabinet. Weird.


maybe this may turn out to be an appointment by the first lady of downing street, the one that wears the trousers, princess nut nut herself

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2021, 04:32 AM
behind a times paywall but you can see the beginning of the story


Matt Hancock used private email account for government business | News | The Sunday Times (thetimes.co.uk) (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/matt-hancock-used-private-email-account-for-government-business-wrm33djfn)


Matt Hancock faces an investigation after using a personal email account instead of an official address during the pandemic in a breach of government guidelines.
Since March last year the former health secretary has routinely used a private account to conduct government business, concealing information from his own officials and potentially the public, according to documents obtained by The Sunday Times.

wookie70
27-06-2021, 08:14 AM
behind a times paywall but you can see the beginning of the story


Matt Hancock used private email account for government business | News | The Sunday Times (thetimes.co.uk) (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/matt-hancock-used-private-email-account-for-government-business-wrm33djfn)


Matt Hancock faces an investigation after using a personal email account instead of an official address during the pandemic in a breach of government guidelines.
Since March last year the former health secretary has routinely used a private account to conduct government business, concealing information from his own officials and potentially the public, according to documents obtained by The Sunday Times.

Perhaps he called Johnston hopeless on Whatsapp or similar

hibsbollah
27-06-2021, 11:21 AM
maybe this may turn out to be an appointment by the first lady of downing street, the one that wears the trousers, princess nut nut herself

This is what Dom Cummings wants us to think, clearly. Lots of people I hate, all simultaneously getting all the airtime and telling us what’s going on in government.

He's here!
27-06-2021, 11:50 AM
…who hates Boris and got engaged in a slanging match with him after leaving cabinet. Weird.

It's not Boris he hates, it's Cummings.

Might not end up as a bad move for them to bring him back. He strikes me as a great deal more competent than Hancock, while his departure as chancellor last year brought Sunak into the mix, the latter proving (in my view) by far the most capable of the Tory front bench.

hibsbollah
27-06-2021, 01:57 PM
It's not Boris he hates, it's Cummings.

Might not end up as a bad move for them to bring him back. He strikes me as a great deal more competent than Hancock, while his departure as chancellor last year brought Sunak into the mix, the latter proving (in my view) by far the most capable of the Tory front bench.

Javids competence is up for debate. What isn’t up for debate is he’s baw deep in the same croneyism as the rest of them, lobbying for face mask contracts for his mates despite them having no previous experience.

Bostonhibby
27-06-2021, 02:09 PM
Javids competence is up for debate. What isn’t up for debate is he’s baw deep in the same croneyism as the rest of them, lobbying for face mask contracts for his mates despite them having no previous experience.Wasn't being mates and having no actual experience (or indeed infrastructure) actually the criteria for meeting the standard for fast tracking to contracts via Lord Deighton, without any scrutiny or tender process?

Being a Nasty Party donator helped too, as did being Hancock's pub landlord.[emoji6]

Trebles all round, if you were in the gang.

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cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2021, 02:45 PM
Javid has it but dish the dirt and stop teasing :wink:

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/206391643_10226113004441209_4802697044693934387_n. jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=lwAMK3OOx1wAX8w3MCW&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=9ebee8fa826b79d4e7e3b707b0e46e67&oe=60DD4E01

Kato
27-06-2021, 02:48 PM
Javid has it but dish the dirt and stop teasing :wink:



...more private CCTV footage? Chopping up on his office table probably.

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2021, 02:50 PM
Javids competence is up for debate. What isn’t up for debate is he’s baw deep in the same croneyism as the rest of them, lobbying for face mask contracts for his mates despite them having no previous experience.


whilst receiving £1.5k/hour for advising an American investment bank

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2021, 02:54 PM
...more private CCTV footage? Chopping up on his office table probably.


no idea but i bet it's not been with sweet little Gina like some are guessing....she's a tad too hot for little Mikey :agree:



i'd guess therese coffey if she's that way inclined :greengrin

Moulin Yarns
27-06-2021, 02:56 PM
no idea but i bet it's not been with sweet little Gina like some are guessing....she's a tad too hot for little Mikey :agree:



i'd guess therese coffey if she's that way inclined :greengrin

A bit of coffey and cream?:rolleyes:

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2021, 03:55 PM
A bit of coffey and cream?:rolleyes:


i'd rather have godley and creme :wink:

Moulin Yarns
27-06-2021, 04:08 PM
i'd rather have godley and creme :wink:

Still only 10cc. 😉😂😂

cabbageandribs1875
27-06-2021, 04:10 PM
Johnson from 2013..

24845


Friday..

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/205073429_2821700971474867_31408828110182150_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=jmhsbMm4Ju4AX9HT0SQ&tn=5m7pnQZ1SlTC4D2w&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=a3c5604027c3a9491c7ff531e651e0f4&oe=60DCED6B

Billy Whizz
27-06-2021, 04:29 PM
Johnson from 2013..

24845


Friday..

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/205073429_2821700971474867_31408828110182150_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=jmhsbMm4Ju4AX9HT0SQ&tn=5m7pnQZ1SlTC4D2w&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=a3c5604027c3a9491c7ff531e651e0f4&oe=60DCED6B

And what punishment does guilty mean

Ozyhibby
27-06-2021, 04:34 PM
And what punishment does guilty mean

A shoulder shrug will have to happen.


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Bostonhibby
27-06-2021, 05:28 PM
And what punishment does guilty meanDon't get caught next time and don't let on about the rest of it?

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Kato
27-06-2021, 05:29 PM
And what punishment does guilty mean

They'll put systems in place and learn lessons so these type of incidences don't happen again.

Just Alf
27-06-2021, 06:13 PM
And what punishment does guilty mean"Bad boy! You won't get the recently vacated heath secretary post... you'll just have to wait for another time."

Words to that effect anyway, it is the Tories after all

degenerated
27-06-2021, 06:46 PM
They'll put systems in place and learn lessons so these type of incidences don't happen again.The incidence being getting caught rather than the action.

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Moulin Yarns
27-06-2021, 09:31 PM
https://www.facebook.com/627509675/posts/10161226847659676/?sfnsn=scwspwa

C **** it, everyone has to see this. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Jack
28-06-2021, 07:23 AM
Glad to see someone has managed to keep track!

47: Potential breaches of the ministerial code by cabinet members

£41,506,134,000: Total amount of public money wasted by the government

13: Number of times that ministers have broken the law while in public office.

Details of these breaches by individual cabinet members can be found here

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/compendium-of-cabinet-codebreakers/

cabbageandribs1875
28-06-2021, 06:00 PM
what a repugnant bare-faced lying runt Westminster's most corrupt prime minister is...

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/207176467_351014259717649_5481294291685810976_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=COn4gMZ6QRYAX82Ll3m&_nc_oc=AQnM90K_Yid47Otxt_7ZMkbAXAj4MCEvdj_NwuVcThJ dNd1JNNhw_t9yckC401BuOmY&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=f68e6a5a1cd5228c218aa22d9265114d&oe=60DF8139

cabbageandribs1875
28-06-2021, 06:04 PM
something else that appeared to get buried a tad over the weekend, except by very small minority of outlets

Almost 600m NHS home Covid tests unaccounted for, auditors reveal | NHS | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jun/25/almost-600m-nhs-home-covid-tests-unaccounted-for-auditors-reveal)


Almost 600m lateral flow tests given to the public in England may not yet have been used, according to a report that says the hugely expensive test-and-trace system is still bedevilled by problems.




Harding is a cert to get the NHS gig i reckon, the PoS at the top will let her take the flak whilst privatisation creeps up even more

Northernhibee
29-06-2021, 08:14 PM
Latest poll sees the polling lead for the Tories drop to nine points, Tories down two, Labour up three.

Jones28
30-06-2021, 11:18 AM
If you want to hear a prime example of populist politics in action just listen to PMQ's.

Starmer holds up the dead cat, Johnson chucks a dead dog on the table. Starmer holds it up, Johnson produces a dead donkey.

It's painful.

neil7908
30-06-2021, 11:39 AM
This might be one of Johnson's worst PMQs. He never really answers the question but now he's just lying, not answering the question, repeating his previous 'zingers' and mentioning the vaccine campaign when it's in no way related to the question.

Depressing stuff.

lapsedhibee
30-06-2021, 11:45 AM
This might be one of Johnson's worst PMQs. He never really answers the question but now he's just lying, not answering the question, repeating his previous 'zingers' and mentioning the vaccine campaign when it's in no way related to the question.

Depressing stuff.

Has there ever been anyone more frightened of not getting to the HoL than Hoyle? :hmmm:

Hiber-nation
30-06-2021, 12:17 PM
Has there ever been anyone more frightened of not getting to the HoL than Hoyle? :hmmm:

Had a political blether with a fellow traveller while up North yesterday and funnily enough Hoyle's name cropped up when we were ranting about Johnson.

"Kow-towing streak of pish" is how the guy described him :greengrin

Ryan91
30-06-2021, 12:18 PM
Has there ever been anyone more frightened of not getting to the HoL than Hoyle? :hmmm:

As much as Bercow wanted to be the centre of attention sometimes, at least he used his role as speaker to keep the Government and Ministers in check, despite him being a former Tory.

Hoyle is ex-Labour and yet he seems quite content for the Conservatives and the PM do as they please and piss all over the idea of parliamentary democracy.

Northernhibee
30-06-2021, 12:23 PM
If you want to hear a prime example of populist politics in action just listen to PMQ's.

Starmer holds up the dead cat, Johnson chucks a dead dog on the table. Starmer holds it up, Johnson produces a dead donkey.

It's painful.

There's a spectacular advert on LBC radio that depicts a caller who got through to the call in with Keir Starmer, she hadn't received any government help despite being self employed and unable to work in the pandemic.

It then cuts to PMQs and Keir Starmer brings this up.

I know this is supposed to show how LBC is powerful within the UK and that callers can play their part in democracy by sharing their stories, but unfortunately they also air Johnson's reply of "We will continue to errr...errr..put our arms around businesses". In other words "we'll keep doing what we're doing and dodge the question".

It shows that democracy is dying in this country.

Moulin Yarns
01-07-2021, 10:10 AM
https://news.stv.tv/west-central/councillor-criticised-for-travel-expenses-in-lockdown-year


Tory councillor in Renfrew claims almost £1,000 in expenses despite stay at home message.