Tories are still lying *******s

[overdrive]

Unless maybe hunt gets it, whoever takes over will be further right wing, especially fiscally. There is no silver lining its austerity and growing inequality until they are gone.

Whoever takes over will claim no responsibility for the years past.

Worrying times we live in when Hunt is classed as the least worst option to lead the country!

[Moulin Yarns]

This is the problem. It has opened the door to allow all sorts of other dangerous Tories into power.

Here is the resignation speech.



Umm ah, thanks for letting run this united kingdom during difficult times, things can only get better from now on. I have seen some of the names coming out to replace me and, quite honestly, you ain't seen nothing yet!

It is for that reason I feel I have no alternative than to remain as this great nation's prime minister.

Thank you.

[Stairway 2 7]

Worrying times we live in when Hunt is classed as the least worst option to lead the country!

Indeed

[LewysGot2]

Worrying times we live in when Hunt is classed as the least worst option to lead the country!

Hunt, Javid are the two obvious "One Nation Tories"...

The rest are shades of righter than right.

Truss has a lot of grass roots support, has been positioning herself for this opportunity for months...and conveniently has been out of the country this week so has avoided the circus show. She's bound to throw her Thatcher scarf into the ring...

[LewysGot2]

Speculation he doesn't want to go after fewer days in power than Teresa May.

Sadly, more than likely true. Narcissistic, self-serving spoilt brat

[Smartie]

Step up the next Charlatan.

Bobby or Jackie?

Or neither - Athletic?

[Moulin Yarns]

https://youtu.be/htobTBlCvUU

[Keith_M]

I watched some Tory MP last night actually say that the characteristics that are becoming part of his downfall were precisely the characteristics they wanted in order to get brexit done. So essentially he was saying the tories knew they needed a liar as leader to get brexit delivered.


Shockerooni!

[neil7908]

New leader elected
Does fundamentally the same things as Johnson, but in a discrete and polite way so it's ok
Media class all back on side
Tory majority in 2024
No end in sight
Social murder continues.

Sadly I think this is true. New leader will be on the hard right (PM Truss anyone) and will be chucking tax cuts around, fabricating more fights with the EU etc. That will be enough to win back the Tory press, who as much as Starmer tries, will never back him.

No lessons will be learned or hard questions asked and they will get another majority in 2024.

[He's here!]

By convention, the PM stays on until the 100,000 or so tory party members vote in a new leader.

I hadn't realised that was the case, but just had a look back at May's resignation and she resigned on May 23rd 2019 but stayed in post until Johnson won the leadership election on July 23rd. Is it the same with an opposition leader? Pretty sure Corbyn hung around for a long time until Starmer replaced him.

On that basis I guess it wouldn't be unconventional for Johnson to stick around but, while May was merely hapless, Johnson has created such a mess around him that it doesn't seem sustainable for him to stay in post even another day. Time to break with convention and appoint an interim leader I think.

[Chorley Hibee]

I hadn't realised that was the case, but just had a look back at May's resignation and she resigned on May 23rd 2019 but stayed in post until Johnson won the leadership election on July 23rd. Is it the same with an opposition leader? Pretty sure Corbyn hung around for a long time until Starmer replaced him.

On that basis I guess it wouldn't be unconventional for Johnson to stick around but, while May was merely hapless, Johnson has created such a mess around him that it doesn't seem sustainable for him to stay in post even another day. Time to break with convention and appoint an interim leader I think.

That's exactly what the deputy PM is there for.

Johnson should be out on his arse today.

[Oscar T Grouch]

So it looks like Bojo the clown will resign today. Those who have put their names in the hat so far for leadership are Suella Braverman, the original chair of the ERG, Steve Baker has hinted he would run for leader, also a über brexiteer. I can see no relatively sane tory putting their hat in this contest so we can guarantee no matter what happens things are not going to get better for anyone apart from the wealthy in this country. Time for Scotland to lift her skirts and run like hell for the door.

[Kato]

So it looks like Bojo the clown will resign today. Those who have put their names in the hat so far for leadership are Suella Braverman, the original chair of the ERG, Steve Baker has hinted he would run for leader, also a über brexiteer. I can see no relatively sane tory putting their hat in this contest so we can guarantee no matter what happens things are not going to get better for anyone apart from the wealthy in this country. Time for Scotland to lift her skirts and run like hell for the door.We will either get another Brexit loon like Penny Mordaunt or a brexit thicko like Truss.

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[ronaldo7]

I hadn't realised that was the case, but just had a look back at May's resignation and she resigned on May 23rd 2019 but stayed in post until Johnson won the leadership election on July 23rd. Is it the same with an opposition leader? Pretty sure Corbyn hung around for a long time until Starmer replaced him.

On that basis I guess it wouldn't be unconventional for Johnson to stick around but, while May was merely hapless, Johnson has created such a mess around him that it doesn't seem sustainable for him to stay in post even another day. Time to break with convention and appoint an interim leader I think.

The parliamentary party wittle those standing down to two, and those two then get put to the whole party to vote in the winner.

The amount of crap that's been happening in the last few days, theirs people in the party who'll want Johnson out this week, and moves will already be happening to get Rabb to stand in.

Knowing Johnson, he'll carry on fighting to stay as PM until the new leader is elected.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/292539650_10160533145111929_9016578939068387144_n. jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=XGDI5yS4qAUAX_w6wlE&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT8LP9OFzXX8maM_8OfMKB8l2GL_VOLNRzqHtpJVbV1E vw&oe=62CBEFB9

[The Modfather]

Step up the next Charlatan.

Think Tim Burgess would be a good choice and seamlessly move from one leader with blond eccentric hair to the next.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62072419?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=62c6b32e9db6d5693fa5878f%26Johnson%20t o%20appoint%20new%20ministers%20shortly%20-%20No%2010%262022-07-07T10%3A21%3A42.198Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:f5c2f21d-29d3-4b70-a3d2-88e2c5ee6b64&pinned_post_asset_id=62c6b32e9db6d5693fa5878f&pinned_post_type=share


Johnson to fill vacancies shortly!!!!

[ronaldo7]

Full cabinet has now been formed.

[Chorley Hibee]

Michael Fabricant announces he isn't running for PM.

Oh my sides!

[cabbageandribs1875]

who's blasting out the Benny Hill theme outside Westminster :faf:

[Hibbyradge]

Is anyone watching Sky news?

They're interviewing a Tory MP and a band is playing the Benny Hill theme tune loud and clear! :faf:

[Chorley Hibee]

Is anyone secretly sad that it's ending now?

I wanted it to finish in an Iranian embassy type siege with Johnson and Dorries handcuffed to a radiator.

[Mon Dieu4]

Is anyone secretly sad that it's ending now?

I wanted it to finish in an Iranian embassy type siege with Johnson and Dorries handcuffed to a radiator.

It's only just started, will be more infighting when they are selecting a new leader, months to run yet

[neil7908]

Is anyone secretly sad that it's ending now?

I wanted it to finish in an Iranian embassy type siege with Johnson and Dorries handcuffed to a radiator.

A little bit as I fear the upcoming Tory reset and forgiveness by the press and electorate will mean a Tory love in again within 6 months.

I also feel a bit like no functioning Government is probably less dangerous for the country than this shower of *****.

[grunt]

who's blasting out the Benny Hill theme outside Westminster :faf:Steve Bray

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1544994679950917633?s=20&t=afm9nkYzLyae_XqNC-j6kw

[Jack]

Is he allowed to stand in the leadership contest? Wouldn't surprise me if he tried 🥳

[overdrive]

Is anyone secretly sad that it's ending now?

I wanted it to finish in an Iranian embassy type siege with Johnson and Dorries handcuffed to a radiator.

I'm still not convinced he won't try and pull a Trump-esque refusal to leave but actually carry through with it. I actually think he's even more deluded than Trump.

[He's here!]

Speculation he doesn't want to go after fewer days in power than Teresa May.

Sadly, more than likely true. Narcissistic, self-serving spoilt brat

He's quite a long way from being the shortest-serving PM, even if he left today:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62072419?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=62c6b27cb893776ef3343574%26Boris%20Joh nson%20just%20behind%20Theresa%20May%20for%20time% 20in%20No%2010%262022-07-07T10%3A36%3A22.730Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:bb40f4a8-12a8-4689-89a7-300d6f0ec6a5&pinned_post_asset_id=62c6b27cb893776ef3343574&pinned_post_type=share

[JeMeSouviens]

I'm still not convinced he won't try and pull a Trump-esque refusal to leave but actually carry through with it. I actually think he's even more deluded than Trump.

Dom thinks so too:


Dominic Cummings @Dominic2306

I know that guy & I'm telling you -he doesn't think it's over, he's thinking 'there's a war, weird **** happens in a war, play for time play for time, I can still get out of this, I got a mandate, members love me, get to September...'

If MPs leave him in situ there'll be CARNAGE

[Chorley Hibee]

I'm still not convinced he won't try and pull a Trump-esque refusal to leave but actually carry through with it. I actually think he's even more deluded than Trump.

Exactly my thoughts too.

I think he'll try anything to retain office.

[The Tubs]

He's quite a long way from being the shortest-serving PM, even if he left today:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62072419?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=62c6b27cb893776ef3343574%26Boris%20Joh nson%20just%20behind%20Theresa%20May%20for%20time% 20in%20No%2010%262022-07-07T10%3A36%3A22.730Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:bb40f4a8-12a8-4689-89a7-300d6f0ec6a5&pinned_post_asset_id=62c6b27cb893776ef3343574&pinned_post_type=share

Note that 4 of the 5 shortest serving were Scottish.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Don’t waste all your anger on Boris Johnson — save some for his enablers | Aditya Chakrabortty | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/07/anger-boris-johnson-prime-minister-democracy?fbclid=IwAR32JKuMpS_iKLIqkj0d6qeG-4QG9HJ2sMwx8exzZ-eCZfEw1y2c7ZL6fYI)


the prime minister who handed out plum jobs to a man accused of sexual harassment (as deputy chief whip, Chris Pincher’s total salary would have been some £115,000), who attended lockdown parties then lied and lied about it, and who tried to defend a chum who broke the lobbying rules, is by no means the cause of the rot in Westminster. Johnson is instead the most obvious and serious symptom of a deep crisis in our democracy


that will be the lard erkies legacy....a pathological LIAR :agree:


Liz Truss is Nigel Farage without the pint glass :hilarious

Matt Hancock is Matt Hancock. That is today’s Tory party: a vacant-eyed coalition of bankers, bounders and Brexiteers. They have no ideas, save the most parodic form of Thatcherism. Hand huge home loans to people on housing benefit who can barely afford to eat. Allow mortgages to be passed down fromparent to child, like some 21st-century remake of debt serfdom. When all else fails, attack the BBC for not showing more flags.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Steve Bray

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1544994679950917633?s=20&t=afm9nkYzLyae_XqNC-j6kw


ta, i did immediately think he would somehow be part of that :greengrin he must be a right pain in the backside of the Tories, for years now

[weecounty hibby]

I'm still not convinced he won't try and pull a Trump-esque refusal to leave but actually carry through with it. I actually think he's even more deluded than Trump.
Its not delusion. Its a self entitled, old etonian who has been bred and brought up to believe he is better than everyone else and that he was born to rule. Its ****ing disgusting and sadly the UK keeps churning them out as PMs. And will sadly continue to keep churning them out as long as the Westminster system stays as it is, and no one except the lib dems even seem interested in changing that, and they are pretty useless.
It is also enabled by the msm continued support of that due to who owns most of it. But also due to England's strange relationship with class. Too many people there believe that if they have a title that you dont(royals included), or went to a good school that you didn't, or they are incredibly rich then by default they are your betters and should be running the country. Well that complete and utter disgrace Johnsonand his party proves all of these are bull****.

[overdrive]

Exactly my thoughts too.

I think he'll try anything to retain office.

It wouldn't surprise me if we see British troops sent to Ukraine. Then it will become "oh I can't abandon the country in the middle of a war".

[grunt]

Its not delusion. Its a self entitled, old etonian who has been bred and brought up to believe he is better than everyone else and that he was born to rule.


https://youtu.be/0p-Ta83V7iw

[SteveHFC]

Bye Boris you ****.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Boris statement at 1230

[cabbageandribs1875]

It wouldn't surprise me if we see British troops sent to Ukraine. Then it will become "oh I can't abandon the country in the middle of a war".



may just see that if Ben Wallace gets the gig, leading the polls at the moment

[SaulGoodman]

He’s getting applauded, Jesus Christ

[SteveHFC]

Imagine applauding him. 🤣🤣

[cabbageandribs1875]

a lot of deals will be getting made by Worzel to set him and the princess up for the future

[neil7908]

Bye Boris you ****.

This.

[SteveHFC]

The booo’s in the background :faf:

[SaulGoodman]

Not much point celebrating this news, he’ll just get replaced by an even bigger ****.

[cabbageandribs1875]

would have been nice seeing the blimp one last time at this momentously sad time



https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.CJZgpQtTnDIZHcTA2B8jGgAAAA?pid=ImgDet&rs=1

[Moulin Yarns]

How much more damage will he be able to inflict before he finally leaves by the back door?

Anybody else would be told to clear their desk and leave immediately.

[Pretty Boy]

Give the job to Big Sam until the end of the season.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.facebook.com/100046720971084/posts/pfbid027KbMV8AJNuVVJ1NGUVAjyQrd63PmQfmeL7miBE4MuLC VCSM6zKPEwAGRu2DyePW7l/

😂

[Keith_M]

Give the job to Big Sam until the end of the season.


Give the job to Larry the cat.

He surely couldn't make as much of a mess as any of the actual candidates.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://fb.watch/e6zyl_CtGO/

Candidate makes their pitch.

[Keith_M]

https://fb.watch/e6zyl_CtGO/

Candidate makes their pitch.



Here's a leaked photo of the potential candidates to be the next leader of the Tory Party.


26007

[Jones28]

Here's a leaked photo of the potential candidates to be the next leader of the Tory Party.


26007

I feel sorry for those clowns, being compared to that lot.

[Willis1875]

I long for the day that the only politicians name that I know of is that of the prime minister,like it was when I was a young lad.Now all these desperate despicable liars are household names and since the idea of Brexit first came about have probably basked in the publicity

[LewysGot2]

It appears he is having his wedding celebrations at Chequers at the end of the month...and doesn't want to go before it is held

Get a new venue, some decency and dignity while you're there you leech

[Moulin Yarns]

Ooft. Emily Thornberry to Suella Braverman at AG questions - “What an honour to be at this dispatch box facing the next Prime Minister as she awaits her call from the Palace.”

😂

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

It appears he is having his wedding celebrations at Chequers at the end of the month...and doesn't want to go before it is held

Get a new venue, some decency and dignity while you're there you leech


They will have a huge party and then deny that it ever happened.

[Hibrandenburg]

Steve Bray

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1544994679950917633?s=20&t=afm9nkYzLyae_XqNC-j6kw

Brilliant :faf:

[hibsbollah]

To take part in the race, a Tory MP has to be nominated by eight colleagues.

Once all the candidates have declared, Tory MPs will hold a series of votes until only two remain. In the first round, candidates must get 5% of the votes to stay in the running, which is 18 votes.

In the second round they must get 10%, which is currently 36 MPs. In the following rounds, the candidate with the least number of votes is eliminated until two candidates remain.

When two MPs are left in the race, party members get to make their final choice before a deadline set by the 1922 Committee.

To be fair to the Tories, their system for electing a leader is a lot more democratic than Labours. Certainly in the sense of minimum threshold to get on the ballot paper and breadth of representation. Of course the entire electorate are complete tossers but apart from that, democracy in action :agree: If we organised our national general elections in this way without the need for parties and the whip system, the world would be an infinitely better place.

[Mon Dieu4]

To take part in the race, a Tory MP has to be nominated by eight colleagues.

Once all the candidates have declared, Tory MPs will hold a series of votes until only two remain. In the first round, candidates must get 5% of the votes to stay in the running, which is 18 votes.

In the second round they must get 10%, which is currently 36 MPs. In the following rounds, the candidate with the least number of votes is eliminated until two candidates remain.

When two MPs are left in the race, party members get to make their final choice before a deadline set by the 1922 Committee.

To be fair to the Tories, their system for electing a leader is a lot more democratic than Labours. Certainly in the sense of minimum threshold to get on the ballot paper and breadth of representation. Of course the entire electorate are complete tossers but apart from that, democracy in action :agree: If we organised our national general elections in this way without the need for parties and the whip system, the world would be an infinitely better place.

Should make it like the thunderdome, two enters and one leaves

[Moulin Yarns]

To take part in the race, a Tory MP has to be nominated by eight colleagues.

Once all the candidates have declared, Tory MPs will hold a series of votes until only two remain. In the first round, candidates must get 5% of the votes to stay in the running, which is 18 votes.

In the second round they must get 10%, which is currently 36 MPs. In the following rounds, the candidate with the least number of votes is eliminated until two candidates remain.

When two MPs are left in the race, party members get to make their final choice before a deadline set by the 1922 Committee.

To be fair to the Tories, their system for electing a leader is a lot more democratic than Labours. Certainly in the sense of minimum threshold to get on the ballot paper and breadth of representation. Of course the entire electorate are complete tossers but apart from that, democracy in action :agree: If we organised our national general elections in this way without the need for parties and the whip system, the world would be an infinitely better place.

Why are they talking about September or October when Johnson succeeded May it was done in about 6 weeks.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Of course this all means a Tory leadership contest at a time the country is in crisis in so many ways. Tory naval gazing during Brexit crisis, cost of living crisis, falling living standards, Ukraine crisis etc. No functioning government, with dozens of positions unfilled, whilst the Tories fight like ferrets in a sack and Bozo hangs around like an unflushed turd in the meantime.

[JeMeSouviens]

Why are they talking about September or October when Johnson succeeded May it was done in about 6 weeks.

Almost exactly 2 months. 2 months from now is Sep.

[Hibrandenburg]

Just listening to some public school educated contemporary historian describing Johnson as an empathic man of dignity.

Where do they dig up these hoof****** bungle*****

Edit: Just seen that the swear filter didn't kick in so I've censored myself.

[ronaldo7]

Just listening to some public school educated contemporary historian describing Johnson as an empathic man of dignity.

Where do they dig up these

His classmates.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Just listening to some public school educated contemporary historian describing Johnson as an empathic man of dignity.

Where do they dig up these hoof****** bungle*****

Edit: Just seen that the swear filter didn't kick in so I've censored myself.

I think James O'Brien went to public school, but he has a different take on it:



https://youtu.be/F1lMKFH8Nzk

[Hibrandenburg]

His classmates.

Correction: His upper-class mates. :wink:

[Hibrandenburg]

I think James O'Brien went to public school, but he has a different take on it:



https://youtu.be/F1lMKFH8Nzk

Indeed, but there are public schools and then there are public schools.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Indeed, but there are public schools and then there are public schools.

Aye, unless one went to Eton, Harrow or Westminster, one is a pleb and unworthy of acknowledgement :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

Why are they talking about September or October when Johnson succeeded May it was done in about 6 weeks.

I don't really know, but because you could get nominated with just 8 MPs support (your Surrey golf club mates essentially)there could be 3 or 33 candidates in the first round hypothetically there could be a lot of rounds till you get round to the final 2 where the Tory members get to shuffle off and vote for the eventual leader. But I imagine that a longer delay suits the Tory Party the way the polls are looking; Labour has a seven point lead but Starmer is still really unpopular too, get the new leadership candidates distancing themselves from BJ, bit of fresh PR, new broom blahblahblah etc. They probably think a 2025 election is infinitely winnable.

[LewysGot2]

Aye, unless one went to Eton, Harrow or Westminster, one is a pleb and unworthy of acknowledgement :greengrin

Aye Kirkcaldy High has to be a bit of anomaly for the office. Though I think May, Major and Thatcher also went to state school.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Aye Kirkcaldy High has to be a bit of anomaly for the office. Though I think May, Major and Thatcher also went to state school.

Yes, they did. Half of all PMs were educated at Eton.

[BSEJVT]

Suella Braverman says on Peston that she’ll put her name forward for a leadership election.

There is such a vacuum of talent in the Tory party.

That there is but sadly it is not just the Tory party it is pretty widespread, there is a distinct lack of gravitas in them all

[LewysGot2]

That there is but sadly it is not just the Tory party it is pretty widespread, there is a distinct lack of gravitas in them all

They're all lacking in strength and depth. Not exactly lots of people in the wings in any of the parties.
It's depressing

[BSEJVT]

As someone who's been mostly in the 'No' camp when it comes to Independence thinking (I wasn't allowed an actual say last time around), I'm honestly beginning to think that maybe there is only one real solution for Scotland.

Because as bad as this entire fiasco is, I STILL think the Conseratives would beat Labour in a general election were one to be called tomorrow. The lack of opposition is as much part of the problem as the current 'Government'.

100% accurate

That is as big a tragedy as anything, tbh I couldn't tell you what Labour stand for anymore.

[Hibernia&Alba]

That there is but sadly it is not just the Tory party it is pretty widespread, there is a distinct lack of gravitas in them all

They purged the centrists and remainers to become a right wing English nationalist party. Boris was able to win support beyond the Tory heartlands in a way the rest will find very difficult. I don't think their backbenchers will accept a remainer as leader; it's going to be an old school ideological Thatcherite from the right of the party. Bozo, for all his massive flaws, wasn't that.

[Hibernia&Alba]

100% accurate

That is as big a tragedy as anything, tbh I couldn't tell you what Labour stand for anymore.

As Tony Benn used to say, Labour (Corbyn notably excluded) now stands for managing neoliberalism/Thatcherism in a slightly more humane way than the Tories. Labour's big claim is they can manage neoliberalism more effectively. That's it, that's the vision. I should be a natural Labour supporter, but I find myself with no feelings of kinship with them. Labour has gone in pursuit of the middle England vote to such a degree (and I understand why) that there is no place for people like me or for many in Scotland, hence the SNP has ravaged the Labour vote.

[Paul1642]

As Tony Benn used to say, Labour (Corbyn notably excluded) now stands for managing neoliberalism/Thatcherism in a slightly more humane way than the Tories. Labour's big claim is they can manage neoliberalism more effectively. That's it, that's the vision. I should be a natural Labour supporter, but I find myself with no feelings of kinship with them. Labour has gone in pursuit of the middle England vote to such a degree (and I understand why) that there is no place for people like me or for many in Scotland, hence the SNP has ravaged the Labour vote.

Kind of how I feel in regards to “should be a natural labour supporter”. Also not got much time for the SNP which has left me with no party whatsoever that I can really identify with. If there was a GE tomorrow I wouldn’t vote for the first time in my adult life. I would still turn up to spoil my paper for all that’s worth.

Not anticipating that changing any time soon either unfortunately :(

[cabbageandribs1875]

i believe cummings :agree:

Dominic Cummings says Boris 'doesn't think it's over' and warns of 'carnage' (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/dominic-cummings-says-boris-doesn-t-think-it-s-over-and-warns-of-carnage/ar-AAZjFdQ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=58111e73b6b64391a3b5422219867dbd)

[Moulin Yarns]

Madame Tussaud's Blackpool lugging their waxwork Boris to outside the job centre is an absolutely sensational bit of stick https://t.co/pXS1N1Lp89

Top marks 👍😂

[xyz23jc]

Kind of how I feel in regards to “should be a natural labour supporter”. Also not got much time for the SNP which has left me with no party whatsoever that I can really identify with. If there was a GE tomorrow I wouldn’t vote for the first time in my adult life. I would still turn up to spoil my paper for all that’s worth.

Not anticipating that changing any time soon either unfortunately :(

VOTE GREEN! :agree::wink:

[Stairway 2 7]

i believe cummings :agree:

Dominic Cummings says Boris 'doesn't think it's over' and warns of 'carnage' (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/dominic-cummings-says-boris-doesn-t-think-it-s-over-and-warns-of-carnage/ar-AAZjFdQ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=58111e73b6b64391a3b5422219867dbd)






He might be right, but I wouldn't believe Cummings with much. He's worse than the other sanctimonious tory Cs that are coming out acting moral. Cummings fd our country giving us boris and brexit, horrible weasel

[cabbageandribs1875]

He might be right, but I wouldn't believe Cummings with much. He's worse than the other sanctimonious tory Cs that are coming out acting moral. Cummings fd our country giving us boris and brexit, horrible weasel


oh absolutely, huge majority of Tory MP's is a Johnson enabler, i've not given any praise to those that have resigned, they don't deserve any as they were part of the circus


as were majority of 'Journalists'(maybe not the correct description tbf) working for the Daily Mail, Express/Times/The ******* S*N/Telegraph



p.s. quite astonishing he thinks a man that sat on a beach refusing to take calls during the evacuations in Kabul should ever be a PM, not ONE of that cabinet should even be in the mix, but we all know several of them will be

[lapsedhibee]

as were majority of 'Journalists'(maybe not the correct description tbf) working for the Daily Mail, Express/Times/The ******* S*N/Telegraph

Special mention also to Kuenssberg. Rigby who's been much better called Johnson's poor-me rambling waffle/waffling ramble today a dignified speech W. T. F.

[Hibernia&Alba]

oh absolutely, huge majority of Tory MP's is a Johnson enabler, i've not given any praise to those that have resigned, they don't deserve any as they were part of the circus


as were majority of 'Journalists'(maybe not the correct description tbf) working for the Daily Mail, Express/Times/The ******* S*N/Telegraph

:agree:

Yes, they all knew what Johnson is before they backed him so fully. His life is there for all to see. They all looked the other way through each scandal and cover-up, putting power before integrity. The only reason they turned against him is because Johnson has become a vote loser and not a vote winner. If Bozo was still popular in the country, all those you mention would still be enabling him now.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Jonathon Pie has his say

warning, explicit language as any decent normal thinking individual would expect :greengrin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKrLBPmRsrM

[Stairway 2 7]

@HugoGye
·
2h
Here's the state of play tonight:
At least 11 Tories are weighing up a run for No10
Looks like result will be unveiled at the start of September
PM has ditched plan for tax cuts to be announced next week - thinks it would be inappropriate

[cabbageandribs1875]

Special mention also to Kuenssberg. Rigby who's been much better called Johnson's poor-me rambling waffle/waffling ramble today a dignified speech W. T. F.

i honestly thought she was going to start greetin this morning :rolleyes:


:agree:

Yes, they all knew what Johnson is before they backed him so fully. His life is there for all to see. They all looked the other way through each scandal and cover-up, putting power before integrity. The only reason they turned against him is because Johnson has become a vote loser and not a vote winner. If Bozo was still popular in the country, all those you mention would still be enabling him now.


and i've still to read/hear video of one of those that resigned, just ONE, saying they resigned because Johnson is a Pathological liar, they just haven't got a spine

[Hibernia&Alba]

and i've still to read/hear video of one of those that resigned, just ONE, saying they resigned because Johnson is a Pathological liar, they just haven't got a spine

Those who did say just that were purged from the party e.g. Dominic Grieve and Rory Stewart. The vast majority didn't care.

[LewysGot2]

QT tonight. Loathsome Tim Stanley mourning the loss of a charismatic leader. Good God.

[DaveF]

Jonathon Pie has his say

warning, explicit language as any decent normal thinking individual would expect :greengrin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKrLBPmRsrM

Brilliant.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Jonathon Pie has his say

warning, explicit language as any decent normal thinking individual would expect :greengrin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKrLBPmRsrM

:not worth:top marks

Andrew Marr said much the same on LBC :greengrin

[Hibernia&Alba]

It's been a tough day for Boris; he's letting off some steam tonight.


https://youtu.be/TOdz2CUzVr0

[SteveHFC]

Jonathon Pie has his say

warning, explicit language as any decent normal thinking individual would expect :greengrin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKrLBPmRsrM

That guy is just brilliant. :not worth

[lapsedhibee]

Jonathon Pie has his say

warning, explicit language as any decent normal thinking individual would expect :greengrin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKrLBPmRsrM

That's terrific.

[ronaldo7]

Jonathon Pie has his say

warning, explicit language as any decent normal thinking individual would expect :greengrin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKrLBPmRsrM

Brilliant.

The factory of lies. 👍

[ronaldo7]

What is it with Scottish Tories, that they've got to cow tow to their masters in London. In the last couple of days, we've seen the Welsh, and Northern Ireland secretary's of state resign over Johnson's despicable lying, and yet, Alister Jack is there, licking Boris' bum.

[Ozyhibby]

What is it with Scottish Tories, that they've got to cow tow the their masters in London. In the last couple of days, we've seen the Welsh, and Northern Ireland secretary's of state resign over Johnson's despicable lying, and yet, Alister Jack is there, licking Boris' bum.

He’s not giving up that peerage for anything. He’s only days away now.


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[He's here!]

First published prior to him becoming PM, but I thought this Jeremy Vine piece gives a good insight into Johnson:

Jeremy Vine: My Boris story - Reaction (https://reaction.life/jeremy-vine-my-boris-story/)

[He's here!]

Aye Kirkcaldy High has to be a bit of anomaly for the office. Though I think May, Major and Thatcher also went to state school.

That's right. Major was a particular anomaly as he didn't go to university either. Before them I'm pretty sure Wilson, Heath and Callaghan were also state school educated. Blair (I think) went to Fettes, while Cameron and Johnson are old Etonians (although Boris won a scholarship place as his parents couldn't afford the fees).

[WhileTheChief..]

Just popping by to see if it's safe to post yet :wink:

[grunt]

Just popping by to see if it's safe to post yet :wink:


https://youtu.be/avNraWT8CSI

[JeMeSouviens]

That's right. Major was a particular anomaly as he didn't go to university either. Before them I'm pretty sure Wilson, Heath and Callaghan were also state school educated. Blair (I think) went to Fettes, while Cameron and Johnson are old Etonians (although Boris won a scholarship place as his parents couldn't afford the fees).

Was surprised at that so just looked it up.

Apparently he got less than half of his fees (almost £50K per year today) paid at Eton, after 5 years at a £30K per year prep school. Johnson's 2 brothers also took the same Ashdown prep -> Eton route and his sister Rachel went Ashdown -> St Pauls, a £30K per year girls' school. Altogether that's an eyewatering amount of fees. ****** ell.

[WhileTheChief..]

https://youtu.be/avNraWT8CSI

Exactly what I was thinking of when I posted!

It feels pretty chilled in here today though:cb

[SHODAN]

He’s not giving up that peerage for anything. He’s only days away now.


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We'll be seeing the last of him soon enough.

[Stairway 2 7]

Oh joy!!


@SebastianEPayne
MPs are acutely aware of their responsibilities in choosing a shortlist.

“The grassroots are well to the right of the parliamentary party. We’ve got to make sure we don’t end up giving them a shortlist that could produce someone unsuitable to be PM.

[SHODAN]

My money's on Truss tbh.

[stokesmessiah]

Starmer has been cleared so the tories have lost that stick

[LewysGot2]

Starmer has been cleared so the tories have lost that stick

Given his legal competence, his relative integrity and overall competence compared to Johnson, you’d have to think he knew he was on safe ground bar a miscarriage of justice. He’s gambled on his own integrity and won.


The right wing media now spinning it as him having benefited from dodgy links to the Chief Constable of Durham police. They have no shame. These vile creatures are clearly looking for Johnson to either hang on long enough to reward them for their unstinting, lying propaganda via knighthoods or some other benefits or, worse still, looking to enable him to stay on full stop by rousing Brexiteers to go full QAnon.

Sooner he goes the better.

[LewysGot2]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/62071182

Pinnochio wouldn’t get a look in :rolleyes:

[lapsedhibee]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/62071182

Pinnochio wouldn’t get a look in :rolleyes:

TF is the point of publishing that now? Similar stuff should have been first item on every 6 o'clock news since 2016/17/18/19. BBC and especially Kuenssberg have beem implicit in the ****show lasting as long as it has.

[hibsbollah]

TF is the point of publishing that now? Similar stuff should have been first item on every 6 o'clock news since 2016/17/18/19. BBC and especially Kuenssberg have beem implicit in the ****show lasting as long as it has.

Quite right. The Fourth Estate has been complicit in underplaying what has happened, and has been part of the establishment, and lots of people still don’t realise they’ve been had, just like the US. It’s all very depressing especially if you’re interested in journalism or the media, because there are some good people in journalism.

[Kato]

worse still, looking to enable him to stay on full stop by rousing Brexiteers to go full QAnon.


I think something like this is on the cards. Whoever wins the Tory leadership battle will be fighting brexit over and over again. Widdecombe has started already this week. The level of denial and lies already exist, they just need to create a few more bogey men and the rhetoric will be off the scale.

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[Kato]

TF is the point of publishing that now? Similar stuff should have been first item on every 6 o'clock news since 2016/17/18/19. BBC and especially Kuenssberg have beem implicit in the ****show lasting as long as it has.By publishing this it only highlights the level of past gaslighting.

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[lapsedhibee]

Quite right. The Fourth Estate has been complicit in underplaying what has happened, and has been part of the establishment, and lots of people still don’t realise they’ve been had, just like the US. It’s all very depressing especially if you’re interested in journalism or the media, because there are some good people in journalism.

Aye, complicit, that's the word. :doh:

[Kato]

Back at Grift-Watch. This guy will bring another dozen years of austerity, grease the Brexit suppl chain con and all the while be levering a system he's in charge of finding ways to avoid paying his and his wife's share of the tax burden. No doubt while having a few digs at "the elites" while he's about it.

https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1545426650032111616?t=U9ZK-MPKXE16Qg0UBzDXEw&s=19



BTW I laughed when I saw the above tweet. Been my reaction for years reading their lies, there is zero anger from me with them. You only have to live in hope that they all get their comeuppance, feint hope it's true. You can only marvel at their level of audacity and their grip on how to fool their victims.

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[Northernhibee]

Back at Grift-Watch. This guy will bring another dozen years of austerity, grease the Brexit suppl chain con and all the while be levering a system he's in charge of finding ways to avoid paying his and his wife's share of the tax burden. No doubt while having a few digs at "the elites" while he's about it.

https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1545426650032111616?t=U9ZK-MPKXE16Qg0UBzDXEw&s=19



BTW I laughed when I saw the above tweet. Been my reaction for years reading their lies, there is zero anger from me with them. You only have to live in hope that they all get their comeuppance, feint hope it's true. You can only marvel at their level of audacity and their grip on how to fool their victims.

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Another one who got a FPN for partying whilst people couldn’t say goodbye to dying relatives?

[neil7908]

I think something like this is on the cards. Whoever wins the Tory leadership battle will be fighting brexit over and over again. Widdecombe has started already this week. The level of denial and lies already exist, they just need to create a few more bogey men and the rhetoric will be off the scale.

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These kind of people are normally at their most dangerous when cornered and desperate.

Labour are ahead in polls, the country is turning against them and the economic outlook is dire.

Rather than turning to facts and reason, just like Trump, there will be a doubling down, more red meat for the base, conspiracy theories, demonising every opponent and as you say, fighting Brexit again and again, despite telling us remoaners to move on for the last few years and running on a platform they were getting it done.

That's why although I'm pleased to see Johnson go, I fear the BS is only just starting.

[grunt]

Please let this be true! (Apologies for the link, don't click on it if you don't want to.)


Nadine Dorries “seriously considering” throwing her hat in the ring “to keep Boris’s flame alive”

https://t.co/6WtRqiGy5i

[Kato]

Please let this be true! (Apologies for the link, don't click on it if you don't want to.)



https://t.co/6WtRqiGy5iFighting on a ticket of "Brexit, levelling up and fighting woke culture".


Facile creature.

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[He's here!]

Sunak launches his leadership bid.

Strongest candidate by a distance IMHO.

[grunt]

:greengrin

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXKLAWFXoAUyddh?format=jpg&name=medium

[Ozyhibby]

Sunak launches his leadership bid.

Strongest candidate by a distance IMHO.

You kidding?


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[Hibernia&Alba]

Sunak launches his leadership bid.

Strongest candidate by a distance IMHO.

Fixed penalty notice Rishi. The man worth £300 million personally and is married to a billionaire, and who, as Chancellor, imposed the largest tax increases since 1945 on working people. What a guy.

[stokesmessiah]

Sunak launches his leadership bid.

Strongest candidate by a distance IMHO.

You cannot be serious…..

[Kato]

You cannot be serious…..If the newspaper owners want him there lies his strength as he will win with their slogans and headlines.

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[lapsedhibee]

Facile creature.

Something nearly rhyming with facile too.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/292066143_1003350140382004_5503769444876341294_n.j pg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=o8fIkWn6QnMAX-4F0mx&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT_HjZ3JhUZGWHn7FWMzSQ3LZkEDZc28av_FtIkBo3xf DQ&oe=62CD15E0

[lapsedhibee]

Nadine Dorries “seriously considering” throwing her hat in the ring “to keep Boris’s flame alive”
What, by wearing similarly combustible underwear and lying morning noon and night?

[lapsedhibee]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/292066143_1003350140382004_5503769444876341294_n.j pg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=o8fIkWn6QnMAX-4F0mx&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT_HjZ3JhUZGWHn7FWMzSQ3LZkEDZc28av_FtIkBo3xf DQ&oe=62CD15E0

It's a good bit of theatre but they shouldn't have dolled him up so much to look presentable. Keep it real.

[Bostonhibby]

Please let this be true! (Apologies for the link, don't click on it if you don't want to.)



https://t.co/6WtRqiGy5iIsn't that what princess nut nut was meant to be doing?

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[lapsedhibee]

Peter Bone and Andrea Jenkyns are government ministers. :faf:

Andrea Jenkyns is an Education Minister. :faf::faf::faf:

[weecounty hibby]

He is just taking the absolute piss now!!

[Hibernia&Alba]

https://youtu.be/vsYgJo_c-mc

[cabbageandribs1875]

Peter Bone and Andrea Jenkyns are government ministers. :faf:

Andrea Jenkyns is an Education Minister. :faf::faf::faf:



saw a wee clip of her yesterday rather irate whilst passing crowds greeting her arrival with jeers and boos, maybe needs to educate herself for acting in a proper manner



there's a lot more utter stupidity to come from Big Dog

[lapsedhibee]

He is just taking the absolute piss now!!

Mercer certainly is. 'The people around Johnson who've made mistakes have been moved on and this is a new government.' W. T. F. The gaslighting continues as if almost nothing has happened. :crazy:

[lapsedhibee]

Fixed penalty notice Rishi. The man worth £300 million personally and is married to a billionaire, and who, as Chancellor, imposed the largest tax increases since 1945 on working people. What a guy.

His campaign spokesman Mark Harper spoke very well on C4 news. First time I've heard a Tory MP listen to questions and answer them straight on that programme for years.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Mercer certainly is. 'The people around Johnson who've made mistakes have been moved on and this is a new government.' W. T. F. The gaslighting continues as if almost nothing has happened. :crazy:

The English public don't give two *****.
We need to get out of this **** show.

[Hibernia&Alba]

His campaign spokesman Mark Harper spoke very well on C4 news. First time I've heard a Tory MP listen to questions and answer them straight on that programme for years.

Coincidentally, I watched a New Statesman debate last night (yes, I'm that sad) filmed a few days ago and which featured Mark Harper. I thought he did quite well on that. I don't agree with his views, but he expressed them well.

[LewysGot2]

saw a wee clip of her yesterday rather irate whilst passing crowds greeting her arrival with jeers and boos, maybe needs to educate herself for acting in a proper manner



there's a lot more utter stupidity to come from Big Dog

She gave protesters a one fingered gesture going into Downing Street today.

[neil7908]

Peter Bone and Andrea Jenkyns are government ministers. :faf:

Andrea Jenkyns is an Education Minister. :faf::faf::faf:

**** me. This is why Boris has to go now.

[cabbageandribs1875]

She gave protesters a one fingered gesture going into Downing Street today.


maybe she should be culture secretary instead, or her and Nadine could maybe take turns about in each departments

[lapsedhibee]

She gave protesters a one fingered gesture going into Downing Street today.

Don't even think that's the stupidest thing she's done in public: https://twitter.com/i/status/1545475555524579328

[Moulin Yarns]

Sam fender at trnsmt


https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cfw3afSKDgS/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[Chorley Hibee]

Quite right. The Fourth Estate has been complicit in underplaying what has happened, and has been part of the establishment, and lots of people still don’t realise they’ve been had, just like the US. It’s all very depressing especially if you’re interested in journalism or the media, because there are some good people in journalism.

Check out the Spectator Summer Party to see how entwined the media is with the establishment in this country.

Little more than a government mouthpiece designed to retain the power of the rich.

[grunt]

She gave protesters a one fingered gesture going into Downing Street today.This is what your Government thinks of you.

#YouYesYet?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXNk0PwXwAAclyw?format=jpg&name=medium

[CropleyWasGod]

Sam fender at trnsmt


https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cfw3afSKDgS/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Don't have Instagram. What's he saying?

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/derbyduck/status/1545520965903335432?s=21&t=FfvG7VYqqT7F_25cfJiUeg

Man of the people.


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[Moulin Yarns]

Don't have Instagram. What's he saying?

He led the crowd in a chant of "**** the tories" 😁

[cabbageandribs1875]

bookies fav wee soldier ben wallace drops out of the running

[Moulin Yarns]

Nice one rishi


"I have friends who are aristocrats, friends who are upper class and friends who are working class....well not WORKING CLASS!"

#RishiSunak 2001 🙄 https://t.co/5MRVadFcwa

[Moulin Yarns]

A source at Number 10 said that Boris Johnson intends to stand down as Prime Minister on Monday, in order to run for the Tory leadership.


https://twitter.com/DharricRolyat/status/1545780321995612165?t=jyKf4lmdltS3P8GQD6c6gA&s=19

[21.05.2016]

This is what your Government thinks of you.

#YouYesYet?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXNk0PwXwAAclyw?format=jpg&name=medium

Classy :rolleyes:

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/291851256_5339766602746794_1967400860363197899_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=V31u5hQUKbUAX-lZ0IY&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT9IQOWYBPQI9s9C2Z18KLROTmt5EID05-0d2am1I_Kzvg&oe=62CECAD2

[cabbageandribs1875]

Tory Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi 'under investigation by HMRC' over tax affairs (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsliverpool/tory-chancellor-nadhim-zahawi-under-investigation-by-hmrc-over-tax-affairs/ar-AAZoDKs?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f721e13e471d4be6992b96034c002207)




Tory leadership hopeful Nadhim Zahawi's tax affairs are being investigated by HMRC, according to reports.

[marinello59]

Marina Hyde nailing it again.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/08/boris-johnson-out-resignation-tory

[grunt]

Spot the difference

Penny Mordaunt for PM (#PM4PM)


https://player.vimeo.com/video/728459184?h=35fd706366

The Day Today


https://t.co/BsTgOqP8yU

[hibsbollah]

Spot the difference

Penny Mordaunt for PM (#PM4PM)


https://player.vimeo.com/video/728459184?h=35fd706366

The Day Today


https://t.co/BsTgOqP8yU

I remember that sketch like it was yesterday. The whole series was unmissable.

[grunt]

You think the Tories have hit a new low? They can always go lower ...

https://twitter.com/iredalepolitics/status/1546078265781227523?s=20&t=S75W8lehVPhvWzukcofOqA

[Bostonhibby]

You think the Tories have hit a new low? They can always go lower ...

https://twitter.com/iredalepolitics/status/1546078265781227523?s=20&t=S75W8lehVPhvWzukcofOqAThere isn't really a low point for this outstanding member of the Nasty party, a perfect fit, it's really down to labour to win back the soul of Greater Grimsby.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Jenkyns first addition to the curriculum..



https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/292150773_352269323730048_2094283733680906813_n.jp g?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=zL8pVcGKJoAAX-s9T1O&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT9IgffbTWIzSRTExG8-wskuof9EvH4-LuKPZSZtRCNhUQ&oe=62CFFAE3

[stu in nottingham]

The newly appointed Levelling Up Minister. Where on earth do they get them from?

New minister Lia Nici repeats Angela Rayner legs slur

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-62113335

[cabbageandribs1875]

it's going to be dirty and nasty for the nasty party contestants...

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/293043215_10158540226511536_5252711543956798640_n. jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=HDv8_4FvobAAX_OCv88&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT8eG5NQai9ImgVAm1OeLyXzGHmxX3OLJM8lWeuTc3Ep xg&oe=62CFB42F

[grunt]

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/politics/how-would-you-like-your-government-right-far-right-or-bat****-crazy/

(You will need to edit this link to make it work, sorry).


How would you like your government? Right, far right, or bat**** crazy?

Six of the likely candidates for PM work closely with the American libertarian right, who are expanding their influence in British politics

[Lendo]

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/politics/how-would-you-like-your-government-right-far-right-or-bat****-crazy/

(You will need to edit this link to make it work, sorry).

I suspect there will be a lot of skeletons coming out of the closets in the next few weeks.

[7 Up]

So far the candidates seem to be offering tax cuts for the wealthy and culture war nonsense for everyone else. Oh and Suella Braverman calling for the UK to leave the ECHR. Really depressing stuff.

[Stairway 2 7]

Tories were always going to go right after boris, its how far will they go. Looking at the candidates pitches is very depressing. Sunak favourite to be in the last two, will mean harsh austerity

[grunt]

10 of them now in the race. Fighting like rats in a sack. They all just have their own future in mind, none of them want the best for the UK.

[marinello59]

10 of them now in the race. Fighting like rats in a sack. They all just have their own future in mind, none of them want the best for the UK.

Like politicians of every major party. Careerists and chancers . If you want real change in your day to day life join a Union. That’s where the true power shift is happening.

[Ozyhibby]

Tories were always going to go right after boris, its how far will they go. Looking at the candidates pitches is very depressing. Sunak favourite to be in the last two, will mean harsh austerity

It’s austerity either way. All these tax cuts getting promised will come with spending cuts attached.


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[James310]

It’s austerity either way. All these tax cuts getting promised will come with spending cuts attached.


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Aren't you an advocate of cutting corporation tax, like in Ireland?

[Hibernia&Alba]

10 of them now in the race. Fighting like rats in a sack. They all just have their own future in mind, none of them want the best for the UK.

There is no clear favourite; perhaps we might see a dark horse emerge from the pack. Jeremy Hunt would be the moderate and sane voice, but most of the parliamentary party are way to the right of him. He won't make the run off. A few of the lesser known candidates are running to raise their profile for the future. I think Javed has a good chance, though some of the Tory party membership would be reluctant to see a Muslim PM; we have to be honest here. It's very open.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Tartan Tory going full crackpot, raging :greengrin


https://youtu.be/0CtwxDIexfc

[Stairway 2 7]

Kemi Badenoch seems to be the outsider pulling through, got some big backers like gove. Right wing nutter like the rest mind

Sunak, truss, Mordaunt and Badenoch are pulling ahead with the bookies. Probably won't be a white male winner, something labour doesn't seem to be able to get away from picking

[Ozyhibby]

Aren't you an advocate of cutting corporation tax, like in Ireland?

I would reduce corporation tax but I would tighten up what actually constitutes a corporation. With it though I reduce a lot of the deductions and tax breaks available so that companies would have less need to employ armies of accountants and lawyers. I think a lower flatter tax would improve productivity throughout the economy. More people making widgets and less people trying to avoid paying tax on widgets is a policy I could get behind. I’m not hearing that so far from anyone?


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[cabbageandribs1875]

Jeremy Hunt vows to make Esther McVey his deputy PM in bid to boost Brexiteer credentials

also promises to stick with Rwanda plan

[Smartie]

This really is a ghastly spectacle.

It's a collection of awful people competing to be the biggest prick, and the winner gets to be PM.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Jeremy Hunt vows to make Esther McVey his deputy PM in bid to boost Brexiteer credentials

also promises to stick with Rwanda plan

I take back my remark about Hunt being the most sane candidate. Esther McVile...

[Hibrandenburg]

None of the above seems popular with Tory voters. Is that someone standing under a nom de plume? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220711/0c451d36119e2fc887bc1b73c5647cd0.jpg

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[hibsbollah]

This really is a ghastly spectacle.

It's a collection of awful people competing to be the biggest prick, and the winner gets to be PM.

It really is a waste of time trying to work out which candidate would be the least worst leader for the country or for the Tory Party. Hunt is probably very very slightly less far to the right than most of the others, but he's still all about reducing tax for the rich, supported halfing legal term rates for abortion, flogging off the NHS. If I cared at all, probably the least objectionable character is Tugendhat. In any normal assessment they'd ALL be called out for what they are, a collection of dangerous radicals from the extreme, powerful moneyed fringes of society. They are all making the same pitch to the same very small constituency of ********s.

[Just_Jimmy]

It really is a waste of time trying to work out which candidate would be the least worst leader for the country or for the Tory Party. Hunt is probably very very slightly less far to the right than most of the others, but he's still all about reducing tax for the rich, supported halfing legal term rates for abortion, flogging off the NHS. If I cared at all, probably the least objectionable character is Tugendhat. In any normal assessment they'd ALL be called out for what they are, a collection of dangerous radicals from the extreme, powerful moneyed fringes of society. They are all making the same pitch to the same very small constituency of ********s.And who ever wins will win the next election.

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[Bristolhibby]

And who ever wins will win the next election.

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Eh?

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/adambienkov/status/1546377056430465024?s=21&t=vjEOl9G1UqAt-xYklfGO3Q

Nothing suspect about this.[emoji102]


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[ronaldo7]

https://twitter.com/adambienkov/status/1546377056430465024?s=21&t=vjEOl9G1UqAt-xYklfGO3Q

Nothing suspect about this.[emoji102]


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I think he's talked himself out of contention before the rules for the election have been finalised. 😂

[Just_Jimmy]

Eh?Which ever of the candidates that wins the leadership, will go on to win the next election also.



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[Ozyhibby]

Which ever of the candidates that wins the leadership, will go on to win the next election also.



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I think so too. I don’t see Labour inspiring enough people to vote for them.


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[wookie70]

You think the Tories have hit a new low? They can always go lower ...

https://twitter.com/iredalepolitics/status/1546078265781227523?s=20&t=S75W8lehVPhvWzukcofOqA

I don't think there is a low point for Tories. They will just get more entitled and emboldened. It is in their blood and self interest is all they are interested in along with a sprinkling of enjoying starving and punishing citizens.

She is very similar to female Republicans/Trump Supporters in the US who seem to want to strip hard won rights from women. Can a woman be misogynistic? You have to ask how can someone like that get into politics. The whole system is broken in the UK as it is the parties who decide on candidates and then citizens vote blindly for parties. The last GE was about as presidential as it could be with Johnson constantly playing the man and rarely talking about the ball out with a few untrue three word statements. The best thing that could happen would be the disbanding of parties and citizens having to get support from within their community/constituency to be allowed to stand. Thereafter it would be a battle of ideas rather than red or blue or extreme right and right of centre as it is now.

[Ozyhibby]

I don't think there is a low point for Tories. They will just get more entitled and emboldened. It is in their blood and self interest is all they are interested in along with a sprinkling of enjoying starving and punishing citizens.

She is very similar to female Republicans/Trump Supporters in the US who seem to want to strip hard won rights from women. Can a woman be misogynistic? You have to ask how can someone like that get into politics. The whole system is broken in the UK as it is the parties who decide on candidates and then citizens vote blindly for parties. The last GE was about as presidential as it could be with Johnson constantly playing the man and rarely talking about the ball out with a few untrue three word statements. The best thing that could happen would be the disbanding of parties and citizens having to get support from within their community/constituency to be allowed to stand. Thereafter it would be a battle of ideas rather than red or blue or extreme right and right of centre as it is now.

Parties exist in all democracies. There is nothing inherently wrong with them. Some move to far away from voters and eventually die. The Tories are following a large chunk of voters in England which should see them win again.


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[JeMeSouviens]

Parties exist in all democracies. There is nothing inherently wrong with them. Some move to far away from voters and eventually die. The Tories are following a large chunk of voters in England which should see them win again.


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Under FPTP, the Tories know they only have to pretend to look after about 40% of the people. They can make the other 60% thoroughly ****** off and still win. Under PR, they'd have to find another 10% from somewhere and that would make for a fairly large shift in the loonball->sensible direction. Albeit, they'd still all be *******s at heart.

[Ozyhibby]

Under FPTP, the Tories know they only have to pretend to look after about 40% of the people. They can make the other 60% thoroughly ****** off and still win. Under PR, they'd have to find another 10% from somewhere and that would make for a fairly large shift in the loonball->sensible direction. Albeit, they'd still all be *******s at heart.

FPTP is here to stay though. The Labour Party need it to keep their coalition together otherwise they would automatically split about 5 different ways.


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[Stairway 2 7]

If I was a tory I'd be pleased with this. Conservative getting back to basics at what tories do best

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/tory-mp-jamie-wallis-crashed-24454556

Tory MP Jamie Wallis 'crashed Mercedes while wearing leather mini-skirt and high heels', court told

[Moulin Yarns]

If I was a tory I'd be pleased with this. Conservative getting back to basics at what tories do best

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/tory-mp-jamie-wallis-crashed-24454556

Tory MP Jamie Wallis 'crashed Mercedes while wearing leather mini-skirt and high heels', court told

Left the scene because he was afraid he might be raped. Well he shouldn't have been dressed so provocatively!!!

[Bostonhibby]

Left the scene because he was afraid he might be raped. Well he shouldn't have been dressed so provocatively!!!Maybe that nice Rici person could say a few words on his behalf?

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[neil7908]

Some of the stuff coming from the candidates now is frightening.

Dare I say that on policy, Boris might be less extreme than the vast majority?

Some of the tax cut stuff is crazy, particularly in the current climate.

[hibsbollah]

Some of the stuff coming from the candidates now is frightening.

Dare I say that on policy, Boris might be less extreme than the vast majority?

Some of the tax cut stuff is crazy, particularly in the current climate.

I was in the newsagent earlier and the Times front page made me laugh 'Tory Right Join to Fight off Sunak':greengrin I mean this is the stage we are at, when SUNAK is explained to the voting class as being the 'more left wing' option?? Its just nonsense, Chomsky was right, capitalist democracy only works when there is very intense debate over a very narrow range of policy areas. The consent is managed and controlled by the media. If they were honest they would explain that there is no such thing as a moderate Conservative anymore.

[Ozyhibby]

I was in the newsagent earlier and the Times front page made me laugh 'Tory Right Join to Fight off Sunak':greengrin I mean this is the stage we are at, when SUNAK is explained to the voting class as being the 'more left wing' option?? Its just nonsense, Chomsky was right, capitalist democracy only works when there is very intense debate over a very narrow range of policy areas. The consent is managed and controlled by the media. If they were honest they would explain that there is no such thing as a moderate Conservative anymore.

All the moderates were de-selected over brexit.


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[CropleyWasGod]

Left the scene because he was afraid he might be raped. Well he shouldn't have been dressed so provocatively!!!

Given that he'd previously been raped, I'd say it was understandable that he left.

[hibsbollah]

All the moderates were de-selected over brexit.


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Yes they were.

[Stairway 2 7]

Given that he'd previously been raped, I'd say it was understandable that he left.

So do other rape victims get to use that as an excuse for leaving the scene of a crime. What a load of pish excuse. Two women and a man walk up to him in a pedestrian street and he feared being attacked. Said he was driving slow and swerved to avoid a cat, even though the snapped telephone pole proves he wasn't. Didn't call police but called dad and wife.

Judge said he didn't believe it either thankfully

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1546532928087363585?s=21&t=zPClnqUVc4Xo0D_-pEJpZQ


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[Hibernia&Alba]

This piece from Peter Oborne is chilling. What the Conservative Party is in 2022 and who the leadership candidates must impress.


https://youtu.be/lWsa_sqdYzM

[Moulin Yarns]

Given that he'd previously been raped, I'd say it was understandable that he left.

I get that, but women are told that the way they dressed is a factor. I was trying to make the point, badly, that a man dressed the same way should have been more aware of the risk.

[ronaldo7]

I wondered when they'd come for those on benefits. Suella going all in.

https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1546518347919007745

[Ozyhibby]

I wondered when they'd come for those on benefits. Suella going all in.

https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1546518347919007745

Things are going to get very tough over the next couple of years and they are going to need someone to blame.


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[Hibernia&Alba]

I wondered when they'd come for those on benefits. Suella going all in.

https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1546518347919007745

Braverman, a member of the ERG, is probably the most right wing candidate of all. She is determined to throw as much red meat as possible to the Tory press and party membership on taxes, the NI Protocol, spending cuts, immigration and culture wars. A combination of disaster capitalism, cruelty and prejudice unites most of the candidates, though Braverman is wanting to go further than most.

[grunt]

Every single one of the Tory leadership contenders skipped today's #ClimateCrisis (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ClimateCrisis?src=hashtag_click) briefing to parliamentarians from Sir Patrick Vallance.

[hibsbollah]

I wondered when they'd come for those on benefits. Suella going all in.

https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1546518347919007745

Astonishing. It’s almost impossible to ‘get by’ on benefits as it is, is she talking about leaving people to starve?

[lapsedhibee]

Astonishing. It’s almost impossible to ‘get by’ on benefits as it is, is she talking about leaving people to starve?

Labour camps more likely.

[LewysGot2]

Gove, the puppeteer, throws his backing behind Kemi Badenoch.

There's going to be a lot of horse trading going on over the coming days. Reckon a fair few will back down to improve the chances of their "degree of right" getting to the last 2.

[ronaldo7]

Next tory leader announced on September 5th. It's like they've taken their eye of the ball in running the reserved issues under their control, and meddling in our devolved settlement.

[hibsbollah]

Labour camps more likely.

But 40% of those on benefits HAVE jobs. Or maybe Braverman thinks they are lazy too? Don’t answer that, of course she knows that, it’s just that the focus groups has told her the 0.5% of the country who have a say in who gets elected in the face off are grey rinse Tories and probably think there’s hundreds of gangs of migrants getting free money and big houses from the state. Jesus wept.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Astonishing. It’s almost impossible to ‘get by’ on benefits as it is, is she talking about leaving people to starve?

It's the old Tory favourite of 'spongers' bleeding the system dry. As far as I'm aware, every study that has been undertaken relating to benefit fraud has concluded that less than one per cent of the welfare budget is fraudulently claimed. By far the biggest cost in the welfare budget is old age pensions, which people have paid into all their working lives. Then they move the goalposts and say the qualifying criteria are too generous, so we've seen those rules tightened many times over the past few decades, with sanctions and the like. In fact UK welfare provision is much lower than in most comparable countries. I believe Universal Credit for a single person is currently around £320 per month. Like you say, I don't how anyone survives on that.

[GlesgaeHibby]

I wondered when they'd come for those on benefits. Suella going all in.

https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1546518347919007745

Horrific take, and totally out of touch with the reality of the situation given that over 2m people on UC are in work. So much for Johnson's high wage economy.

[Northernhibee]

Fifteen points behind Labour in the latest Savanta polling.

[lapsedhibee]

But 40% of those on benefits HAVE jobs.
They would have to do day release to the camps.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Fifteen points behind Labour in the latest Savanta polling.

Even now I'm not convinced the Tories will lose the next general election, such is the toxicity of British politics and society now. In the past such a corrupt and incompetent government which has done so much damage would have been doomed, but we are so polarised, especially as a consequence of Brexit, that I'm uncertain of the outcome next time.

[Killiehibbie]

It's the old Tory favourite of 'spongers' bleeding the system dry. As far as I'm aware, every study that has been undertaken relating to benefit fraud has concluded that less than one per cent of the welfare budget is fraudulently claimed. By far the biggest cost in the welfare budget is old age pensions, which people have paid into all their working lives. Then they move the goalposts and say the qualifying criteria are too generous, so we've seen those rules tightened many times over the past few decades, with sanctions and the like. In fact UK welfare provision is much lower than in most comparable countries. I believe Universal Credit for a single person is currently around £320 per month. Like you say, I don't how anyone survives on that.

£16bn in unclaimed means tested benefits in 2020, it's always been far more than fraud.
£320 wouldn't even pay my gas and electric.

[hibsbollah]

Fifteen points behind Labour in the latest Savanta polling.

I don’t think polling can be reliable at the moment, total flux. The thing we don’t know yet is how much of the Boris mud sticks to the party as a collective or whether they successfully persuade people it was just one bad apple.

[James310]

Fifteen points behind Labour in the latest Savanta polling.

https://twitter.com/ballotboxmedia/status/1546545348075741185?t=hFalcMHwc3v5-OsydaUlzQ&s=19

UK, BallotBox Seat Estimate (polling data from @SavantaComRes, 8-10 July)

�� Labour majority of 96 seats

�� Lab 373 (+171)
�� Con 184 (-181)
�� SNP 43 (-5)
�� Lib Dem 26 (+15)
�� Plaid 4 (n/c)
�� Grn 1 (n/c)
⚪️ Oth 19 (n/c)

Seat chgs. w/ 2019 election. https://t.co/EDPVSNqbj1

[neil7908]

https://twitter.com/ballotboxmedia/status/1546545348075741185?t=hFalcMHwc3v5-OsydaUlzQ&s=19

UK, BallotBox Seat Estimate (polling data from @SavantaComRes, 8-10 July)

�� Labour majority of 96 seats

�� Lab 373 (+171)
�� Con 184 (-181)
�� SNP 43 (-5)
�� Lib Dem 26 (+15)
�� Plaid 4 (n/c)
�� Grn 1 (n/c)
⚪️ Oth 19 (n/c)

Seat chgs. w/ 2019 election. https://t.co/EDPVSNqbj1

A long way until the election. I'd be gobsmacked if Labour get anything like a decent majority.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Javid offering £40b in tax cuts and axing the NI rise, a rise HE voted for

[Bostonhibby]

Javid offering £40b in tax cuts and axing the NI rise, a rise HE voted forAye, but once he gets in he doesn't actually have to do anything about it. Vote for me and I'll do £50bn, and write it on the side of a bus to make sure it's delivered[emoji6]

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[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220712/de465df97870a46a20951f6a3bdf5367.jpg


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[cabbageandribs1875]

Cruella Braverman is a sweetie, eh



https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/293237382_5652962201382906_1241265612174917138_n.j pg?stp=cp1_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=OObxMGUZn-8AX_2xsJD&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT-sTSPrZgdbq21N8SmTWYO7WiFc4MAPMANsCuH305gIGQ&oe=62D26BBF

[Bostonhibby]

Cruella Braverman is a sweetie, eh



https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/293237382_5652962201382906_1241265612174917138_n.j pg?stp=cp1_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=OObxMGUZn-8AX_2xsJD&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT-sTSPrZgdbq21N8SmTWYO7WiFc4MAPMANsCuH305gIGQ&oe=62D26BBFDo as we say, not as we do, cap doffers.

Problem here is we are dealing with multiple cheeks of the same very toxic, entitled Erse.

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[Keith_M]

Do as we say, not as we do, cap doffers.

Problem here is we are dealing with multiple cheeks of the same very toxic, entitled Erse.

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A lot of the more senior Conservative politicians at the moment are from immigrant backgrounds, but seem happy to push the anti-immigrant narrative to appeal to a certain demographic.

It's quite incredible, really.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Do as we say, not as we do, cap doffers.

Problem here is we are dealing with multiple cheeks of the same very toxic, entitled Erse.

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it's going to come down to who will help the richest in society


disliking whinging Scots will earn bonus points

[Bostonhibby]

it's going to come down to who will help the richest in society


disliking whinging Scots will earn bonus pointsPretty much says it all, sadly. The point above about certain demographics is also true in my opinion and that group is sometimes enough to swing an election so just play to them and then behave as the current Nasty party have been doing post election.

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[Northernhibee]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220712/de465df97870a46a20951f6a3bdf5367.jpg


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Either trigger a general election or publicly back the leader you’ve just ousted.

No win for the Tories, that one.

[He's here!]

There is no clear favourite; perhaps we might see a dark horse emerge from the pack. Jeremy Hunt would be the moderate and sane voice, but most of the parliamentary party are way to the right of him. He won't make the run off. A few of the lesser known candidates are running to raise their profile for the future. I think Javed has a good chance, though some of the Tory party membership would be reluctant to see a Muslim PM; we have to be honest here. It's very open.

Think it will come down to Sunak and Mordaunt.

Judging by the odds if you're a white male candidate you're well out of the running.

[JeMeSouviens]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXdYXxgXwAE8EcH?format=jpg&name=large

[Bostonhibby]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXdYXxgXwAE8EcH?format=jpg&name=largeShe must be their best chance of staying in a job. Might not even know who they are as she's not big on actual detail/accuracy.

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[lapsedhibee]

She must be their best chance of staying in a job.

Might not matter to Nads, if reports of her elevation to The Other Place in Johnson's resignation honours are true. They can't be true, shirley. Shirley.

[grunt]

Think it will come down to Sunak and Mordaunt.
Or Sunak and Truss?

[Bostonhibby]

Might not matter to Nads, if reports of her elevation to The Other Place in Johnson's resignation honours are true. They can't be true, shirley. Shirley.Best place for her if we can't actually sweep the whole lot into the sea.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220712/04a5febd682c4a12a960879e52854afa.jpg

I know it’s a parody account but still made me smile.


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[LewysGot2]

Whilst this is possibly the most frightening leadership election for any party leader or PM we've seen it's also interesting from the perspective of diversity.

11 candidates, 6 are from ethnic minority backgrounds and 4 are women. Potentially another "first" is on the cards for the Tories. The least progressive party on the face of it are possibly going to deliver the first PM from an ethnic minority...

[Stairway 2 7]

26032

[He's here!]

Or Sunak and Truss?

Mordaunt seems vastly more popular than Truss with the party membership:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62115347?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=62cd2338c0a04b7058298666%26Conservativ e%20MPs%20and%20members%20seem%20to%20have%20diffe rent%20preferences%262022-07-12T12%3A00%3A18.379Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:8922e72b-3f65-43b9-b3f6-908d4abb067c&pinned_post_asset_id=62cd2338c0a04b7058298666&pinned_post_type=share

[JeMeSouviens]

Mordaunt seems vastly more popular than Truss with the party membership:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62115347?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=62cd2338c0a04b7058298666%26Conservativ e%20MPs%20and%20members%20seem%20to%20have%20diffe rent%20preferences%262022-07-12T12%3A00%3A18.379Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:8922e72b-3f65-43b9-b3f6-908d4abb067c&pinned_post_asset_id=62cd2338c0a04b7058298666&pinned_post_type=share

It's just their MPs until it gets down to the last 2. I think you're right, it'll be Sunak v Mordaunt. Although Rishi is not very good in front of a camera, so there's a decent chance he'll torpedo his own bid before they get to the membership.

[Scorrie]

That Kemi Badenoch is a piece of work. Jeezo, just when I thought the conservatives couldn’t get any lower, she hoves into view. Disgusting

[Bostonhibby]

That Kemi Badenoch is a piece of work. Jeezo, just when I thought the conservatives couldn’t get any lower, she hoves into view. DisgustingEndorsed by Gove...................

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[grunt]

Mordaunt seems vastly more popular than Truss with the party membership:
This one? This lying Penny Mordaunt?


https://youtu.be/DxSz4levAxc

[147lothian]

Bye bye Boris


https://youtu.belKrLBPmRsrM

[Bostonhibby]

This one? This lying Penny Mordaunt?


https://youtu.be/DxSz4levAxcDon't underestimate the importance of being able to lie convincingly, or alternately not have a clue what you are on about but sound like you do.

2 very important "qualities" in the current Nasty Party make up.

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[ronaldo7]

Speaking of Lying Tories. This one gets it back from Philippa on Politics live.

https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/1546833204174372865

[Hiber-nation]

Speaking of Lying Tories. This one gets it back from Philippa on Politics live.

https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/1546833204174372865

The most impressive SNP MP by a distance as far as I'm concerned.

[Kato]

They should get a move on with their leadership battle.

Stuff like this is happening and there is no one around to take credit.

https://twitter.com/peterjukes/status/1546768028347531266?t=9VpvKYKT7fARWfo9yREWhA&s=19

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[ronaldo7]

They should get a move on with their leadership battle.

Stuff like this is happening and there is no one around to take credit.

https://twitter.com/peterjukes/status/1546768028347531266?t=9VpvKYKT7fARWfo9yREWhA&s=19

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We're bottom of the table again. ****in SNP.

[hibsbollah]

Speaking of Lying Tories. This one gets it back from Philippa on Politics live.

https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/1546833204174372865

That Tory had been in the sun too long. He’s actually mahogany. Mahoga-Tory.