Tories are still lying *******s

[Bostonhibby]

Braverman has this morning acknowledged that the Tories are in a hole, and she's advised Sunak to keep digging.

How did people this thick get to be in charge? :dunno:Felt like a free advert for the Braverman's nothing to do with what went before / Braverman for leader campaign and she got a pretty easy ride from Keunsberg I thought.

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[MKHIBEE]

Felt like a free advert for the Braverman's nothing to do with what went before / Braverman for leader campaign and she got a pretty easy ride from Keunsberg I thought.

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I’m struggling to remember a Tory who didn’t get an easy time from her

[Keith_M]

I’m struggling to remember a Tory who didn’t get an easy ride from her


Care to rephrase that?

[MKHIBEE]

Care to rephrase that?


I did wonder when I posted it how it might be taken by some. In the interests of avoiding thoughts that can’t be erased I will

[Bostonhibby]

I’m struggling to remember a Tory who didn’t get an easy time from herThere hasn't been one, she will be presenting the antiques roadshow and hosting question time next[emoji6]

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[MKHIBEE]

There hasn't been one, she will be presenting the antiques roadshow and hosting question time next[emoji6]

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Not fussed about the Antiques roadshow but hopefully not the question time gig. Roy Hattersley’s Have I got news for you replacement would be a better choice

[Bostonhibby]

Not fussed about the Antiques roadshow but hopefully not the question time gig. Roy Hattersley’s Have I got news for you replacement would be a better choiceCertain gigs feel like they have been exclusively fronted by Nasty party loyalists so anything is possible.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

probably on the way back to the UK, another few deportation trips and he can buy a new car



https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/440149552_7603077953082303_4956056886435812283_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=pOC4ZY1B2WcQ7kNvgF-hAG2&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfDDeFZmGT72p1q6AiE49xOsVF-MY2vlFovIB7UNxoLfDg&oe=663EEC49

[Ozyhibby]

probably on the way back to the UK, another few deportation trips and he can buy a new car



https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/440149552_7603077953082303_4956056886435812283_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=pOC4ZY1B2WcQ7kNvgF-hAG2&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfDDeFZmGT72p1q6AiE49xOsVF-MY2vlFovIB7UNxoLfDg&oe=663EEC49

That’s if he’s not been ‘disappeared’?


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[MKHIBEE]

That’s if he’s not been ‘disappeared’?


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£3000 got him a new passport and a plane ticket to Heathrow.

[Moulin Yarns]

£3000 got him a new passport and a plane ticket to Heathrow.

Presumably a plane ticket from Heathrow. 😉

[MKHIBEE]

Presumably a plane ticket from Heathrow. 😉

Nah, he’s back in the UK with a false passport

[CropleyWasGod]

Mark Thomas does a very funny routine about the Rwandan situation. Paraphrasing.....

Rwandan Government:- "What's that, you newly-arrived illegal immigrant from the UK? You don't feel safe here? You'd feel safer risking your life getting to the UK?

We get £3,000 every time you get deported here?

:confused:

Let's go round again..... we have your transport ready."


probably on the way back to the UK, another few deportation trips and he can buy a new car



https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/440149552_7603077953082303_4956056886435812283_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=pOC4ZY1B2WcQ7kNvgF-hAG2&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfDDeFZmGT72p1q6AiE49xOsVF-MY2vlFovIB7UNxoLfDg&oe=663EEC49

See above :greengrin

[Stairway 2 7]

This is brilliant

Thank you for 14 years of the tories, the video

https://twitter.com/larryandpaul/status/1787753659389940175

[grunt]

https://x.com/AlasdairMack66/status/1788899794779341300


The Home Office just told an Immigration Judge that a traumatised Afghan 13-yr-old, living by himself in a Middle East country, doesn’t need to come to the UK to be reunited with what’s left of his family, because he can enjoy family life with them via WhatsApp

[grunt]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-law-protect-children-sexual-124404208.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&tsrc=twtr&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANxja5QcXAY-um-N-Hb5jN5MpVdf5k6N1gUPG2FxU7rwSaReClrByIyQvqNxcV3_jIi wpv5sNgPC3Q37lKEPyQfZenPR4s71mHECthNklCEg5ksICO3Po FyMZQVnjHzCMIyZHRoVG1O4Sdjw1_vGsruvQeXLhrdP3glv3wo RXLVH


‘Duty to report’ child abuse laws will not apply to doctors, teachers or nurses

Tougher laws promised by the government to protect children from sexual abuse will not apply to doctors, teachers or nurses, it has been revealed.

The long-awaited “duty to report” legislation falls far below recommendations by the seven-year independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (IICSA) and has triggered outrage from campaigners, lawyers and survivors of abuse.

“The government’s ‘mandatory reporting’ amendment to the criminal justice bill is a confused and contradictory sham,” said Michael Causton, from Voices Unbound, a support group for survivors of private school abuse.

“It is worse than useless. This legislation will put back the cause of getting good law in place to protect children today in any institution, from schools and care homes to hospitals and sports club,” he added. “Failure to report abuse of a child should be a criminal offence punishable through the court system.”

Last February, James Cleverly, the home secretary, announced he was bringing forward laws to better protect children from sexual predators. He promised to give a legal requirement for anyone in regulated activity relating to children in England, including teachers and healthcare professionals, to report it if they know a child is being abused.

“Those who fail to report child sexual abuse they are aware of, falling short of their legal duties, face being barred from working with young people,” he added. “Anyone who actively protects child sexual abusers – by intentionally blocking others from reporting or covering up the crime – could go to prison for seven years.”

But the amendment to the criminal justice bill, published on Thursday, means that the seven-year sentence only applies to “officers of the crown” – diplomats and the armed forces, very few of whom ever work with children. Headteachers, football club managers, scout leaders or care home executives are unaffected by the new legislation.

[JimBHibees]

https://x.com/AlasdairMack66/status/1788899794779341300

What a despicable country we have become

[grunt]

The UN General Assembly has just voted overwhelmingly in favour of Palestine’s bid to become a full member of the UN.

The UK abstained.

[Just Alf]

The UN General Assembly has just voted overwhelmingly in favour of Palestine’s bid to become a full member of the UN.

The UK abstained.Unbelievable... talk about not reading the room.

I don't think anyone agrees that what Hamas did to Israel was acceptable (in fact it was downright as wrong as can be)... by the same token I can't imagine that there's anyone anywhere that don't think that the Palestinain people should have their own country as well and that Palestine should be recognised as a country, hence become a member of the UN

[Stairway 2 7]

Dominic Cummings is setting up a new anti establishment party, what are the chances these anti establishment figures are rich Etonians ect, man's a clown

https://www.politico.eu/article/dominic-cummings-steps-up-plan-to-replace-tories-with-new-party/

[MKHIBEE]

Unbelievable... talk about not reading the room.

I don't think anyone agrees that what Hamas did to Israel was acceptable (in fact it was downright as wrong as can be)... by the same token I can't imagine that there's anyone anywhere that don't think that the Palestinain people should have their own country as well and that Palestine should be recognised as a country, hence become a member of the UN
I think there are many who will share the view of the Israeli state that they should be wiped out

[Moulin Yarns]

I think there are many who will share the view of the Israeli state that they should be wiped out

I hope not. If it wasn't for the UK, Israel wouldn't exist. Now we have to do the right thing (although abstaining at the UN suggests otherwise) and allow for the creation of a Palestinian state.

[MKHIBEE]

I hope not. If it wasn't for the UK, Israel wouldn't exist. Now we have to do the right thing (although abstaining at the UN suggests otherwise) and allow for the creation of a Palestinian state.

The creation of a Palestinian state should be a priority but I very much doubt the Israelis will ever allow that to happen, which, in the long term, will mean that there will be a body who will take up arms against the Israelis, and the merry go round begins again

[grunt]

These Tory *******s need to be removed from power completely forever. *******s.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/homes-for-ukraine-scheme-refugees-sunak-changes-b2538499.html


‘We’re not allowed to bring our baby from Ukraine’: Refugees refused after sudden UK rule change

[grunt]

The Tories haven't even been spending on defence. So just exactly where has all our tax money gone?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/12/uk-given-stark-warning-over-very-limited-air-defence-systems?CMP=share_btn_url


Current capabilities are very limited, to the point of being negligible, which is the result of long-term under-investment and an over-reliance on Nato partners’ capabilities

[grunt]

Tut tut. Not supposed to use the British Coat of Arms for political announcements.
Oh well, no one cares, it seems.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNdKrWRWsAILKfw?format=png&name=small

[Bostonhibby]

The Tories haven't even been spending on defence. So just exactly where has all our tax money gone?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/12/uk-given-stark-warning-over-very-limited-air-defence-systems?CMP=share_btn_urlTrousered by those fortunate enough to have contacts to ensure they made it onto Lord Deighton's fast track to Covid contract riches? The one where all due diligence and price checks went out the window.

For example Baroness Mone and her husband......

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[Lendo]

The Tories haven't even been spending on defence. So just exactly where has all our tax money gone?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/12/uk-given-stark-warning-over-very-limited-air-defence-systems?CMP=share_btn_url

All the money has been *****ed on those Ajax fighting vehicles that are already 5 years late and billions down the pan.

[Just Alf]

All the money has been *****ed on those Ajax fighting vehicles that are already 5 years late and billions down the pan.But, but.... they did fix the vibration issue that was causing injuries to those in them!

Basically bigger seat cushions and a wrap on the steering wheel :rofl:

[Ozyhibby]

But, but.... they did fix the vibration issue that was causing injuries to those in them!

Basically bigger seat cushions and a wrap on the steering wheel :rofl:

The will be £750m, please.[emoji3][emoji383]


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[easty]

Seeing a few rumours on Twitter this morning that Theresa May might be defecting to Labour….

[Hiber-nation]

Seeing a few rumours on Twitter this morning that Theresa May might be defecting to Labour….

Just a bit of fun I think. Caroline Nokes might be a better candidate.

[lapsedhibee]

Seeing a few rumours on Twitter this morning that Theresa May might be defecting to Labour….
She's never doing that. Her whole life's The Conservative Party.

[Lendo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-69016539

Honestly, no words to describe how I feel about the UK sometimes.....

[Bostonhibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-69016539

Honestly, no words to describe how I feel about the UK sometimes.....Jeez, maybe he should have pretended to be a Russian oligarch or paid £160k for a game of tennis with Bozo. No questions asked residency .........

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[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Jeez, maybe he should have pretended to be a Russian oligarch or paid £160k for a game of tennis with Bozo. No questions asked residency .........

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As long as the officials working on his case aren't wearing rainbow lanyards, we can be sure that the important matters are dealt with.

[grunt]

Tories top the charts!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNxSkdHWgAAqdqH?format=jpg&name=medium

[grunt]

Makes sense to me. Adam Bienkov, political editor, Byline Times.

https://www.adambienkov.co.uk/p/rishi-sunaks-attack-on-the-sick-and

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GN2B-u4WMAAaqP0?format=jpg&name=medium

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1792136724908232853?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

A country run by oligarchs.


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[Kato]

https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1792136724908232853?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

A country run by oligarchs.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSurely that's how the country thrives? Billionaires make billions then his wealth trickles down to poorer people. (Believe that and you're an absolute mug.)

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[grunt]

Chris Patten:


https://youtu.be/ANTlfLQks9s?si=bf0OxeyoD4F8PrYZ&t=309

[Colr]

Surely that's how the country thrives? Billionaires make billions then his wealth trickles down to poorer people. (Believe that and you're an absolute mug.)

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Like a giant Ponzi scheme!

[Kato]

Like a giant Ponzi scheme!Nothing as complicated. Just lies and con tricks.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Yaas get them out, so happy they could be going for the first time in so so long

Ministers expect that Rishi Sunak will tell them in the 4:15pm meeting that he is heading to Buckingham Palace to ask the King to dissolve Parliament for a general election on 4 July

[@BBCNews]

[nonshinyfinish]

Yaas get them out, so happy they could be going for the first time in so so long

Ministers expect that Rishi Sunak will tell them in the 4:15pm meeting that he is heading to Buckingham Palace to ask the King to dissolve Parliament for a general election on 4 July

[@BBCNews]

Interesting. Like you sooner is better from my point of view, but I wonder what the tactical reason is for the Tories?

I had assumed they'd go for the standard tactic of a government on the way out and hold off as long as possible in the hope that some massive scandal hits Starmer or whatever (with the caveat that no one really wants the campaign to be over Christmas, so it was always likely to be a little earlier than the last possible moment).

[Ozyhibby]

Interesting. Like you sooner is better from my point of view, but I wonder what the tactical reason is for the Tories?

I had assumed they'd go for the standard tactic of a government on the way out and hold off as long as possible in the hope that some massive scandal hits Starmer or whatever (with the caveat that no one really wants the campaign to be over Christmas, so it was always likely to be a little earlier than the last possible moment).

May not be tactical? Could be enough letters are in? Sunak gets notice when it’s close so he may have decided to jump?


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[Stairway 2 7]

May not be tactical? Could be enough letters are in? Sunak gets notice when it’s close so he may have decided to jump?


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He was threatening to call the election if votes went in but that seems childish and selfish. I can't see how it would be a good move 20 points behind. Inflation relatively low and fuel prices back down, I thought as late as possible for them to give turning the corner gaslighting

[Stairway 2 7]

Graham Brady currently kicking doors 😆 a number of journalists confirming July 4th

Nicholas Watt
@nicholaswatt
·
A Tory rebel source tells me: Letters are going in calling for a no confidence vote in Rishi Sunak after reports of an imminent general election announcement

Another Tory source: panic in the tea room. Nobody was expecting this. “Everyone mortified,” the source told me

This echoes what a leading Tory Brexiteer told me - as I posted earlier - that an election now would be “madness”. Why go when
@Conservatives
are 20 points behind in the polls goes the thinking

[Hibrandenburg]

Interesting. Like you sooner is better from my point of view, but I wonder what the tactical reason is for the Tories?

I had assumed they'd go for the standard tactic of a government on the way out and hold off as long as possible in the hope that some massive scandal hits Starmer or whatever (with the caveat that no one really wants the campaign to be over Christmas, so it was always likely to be a little earlier than the last possible moment).

He obviously fancies that a wave of patriotism/nationalism from the European Championships will carry the day if England get through the group stages.

[marinello59]

He obviously fancies that a wave of patriotism/nationalism from the European Championships will carry the day if England get through the group stages.

The SNP will be hoping Scotland does well for the same reason. I think both Nationalist parties will be disappointed :greengrin

[stokesmessiah]

D:Ream blaring in the background ha ha ha

[Moulin Yarns]

D:Ream blaring in the background ha ha ha

👍

[Moulin Yarns]

I didn't realise Sunak could possibly be any wetter, but!

[Just Alf]

I didn't realise Sunak could possibly be any wetter, but!Just thinking that... he's so clearly out of touch with the people he doesn't realise rain is wet! :rofl:

I am kidding lol, he can't be that stupid!

[BroxburnHibee]

D:Ream blaring in the background ha ha ha

That was hilarious!!!

[Hibrandenburg]

The SNP will be hoping Scotland does well for the same reason. I think both Nationalist parties will be disappointed :greengrin

You've just highlighted the difference between them both, the SNP will be hoping for Scottish success but the Tories are obviously expecting it. :greengrin

Roll on Independence Day 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇸

[Stairway 2 7]

You've just highlighted the difference between them both, the SNP will be hoping for Scottish success but the Tories are obviously expecting it. :greengrin

Roll on Independence Day 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇸

Probably because we get beat of northern Ireland and they are one of the favourites. All parties use football to their advantage though and it annoys me, Sunak getting pictured at Southampton last week, hope they stay down now

[Bostonhibby]

He obviously fancies that a wave of patriotism/nationalism from the European Championships will carry the day if England get through the group stages.The Waiter rises like a salmon (tinned), reaching his maximum extended height of 5ft 8 to meet a cross from Grealish and win the Euros for his beloved England, think that's how his dream last night went.


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[Stairway 2 7]

27896
27897

Memes started

[grunt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOMrDoRWgAEChkx?format=jpg&name=large

[Bristolhibby]

The Waiter rises like a salmon (tinned), reaching his maximum extended height of 5ft 8 to meet a cross from Grealish and win the Euros for his beloved England, think that's how his dream last night went.


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Ready to talk about his beloved Portsmouth, Erm Southampton.

Guaranteed to be at the Playoff final so he can be seen to be one of the “lads”.

J

[Bostonhibby]

Ready to talk about his beloved Portsmouth, Erm Southampton.

Guaranteed to be at the Playoff final so he can be seen to be one of the “lads”.

JCringeworthy toad attends some random football club in attempt to appeal to the masses, same happens at poor old westhamvilla.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

little ****e Conservative Deputy Chair Jonathan Gullis Took £10,000 From JCB – Then Stayed Silent Over Company’s job Loss Announcement – Byline Times (https://bylinetimes.com/2024/05/31/jonathan-gullis-conservative-takes-10000-from-jcb/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR08zyTsg1TrJE6HW7OJA2OJ J5f0TvJNSanZuWLADf4gC3ugcp-2ua-dZrM_aem_Aas9p2ilJgZiZUCo7ZXEDbpsrx2GJNjFj60y7z1pF ISkDYrPmllKdc5pjAg8pMgGipifpyeK5ubCskBqAWyfczHJ)

Conservative Deputy Chair Jonathan Gullis Took £10,000 From JCB – Then Stayed Silent Over Company’s job Loss Announcement

[cabbageandribs1875]

Yaxley-Lennon will be proud "Parliament Square" - Search / X (https://x.com/search?q=%22Parliament+Square%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends)

[cabbageandribs1875]

Chaos as Tory chairman put on a shortlist of one to ensure he gets a seat (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/chaos-as-tory-chairman-put-on-a-shortlist-of-one-to-ensure-he-gets-a-seat/ar-BB1nG8gg?ocid=BingNewsSerp)

Tory chairman put in a safe seat, the only name put forward by party chiefs

the local party non too happy

[marinello59]

Days after the news broke about Frank Hester and his racist abuse of Diane Abbott they took another £150K donation from him. No shame at all.

[Moulin Yarns]

Days after the news broke about Frank Hester and his racist abuse of Diane Abbott they took another £150K donation from him. No shame at all.

But everything is fine because they claim that he apologised.

[weecounty hibby]

If we didn't already know that Tories are backstabbing, self obsessed, out for no one except themselves, just look at what Douglas Ross has done today. Deselect a man who has been in hospital for 4 weeks so he can ensure that he has a safety net after the next Holyrood election. Goes without saying but I hope he loses big time

[grunt]

If we didn't already know that Tories are backstabbing, self obsessed, out for no one except themselves, just look at what Douglas Ross has done today. Deselect a man who has been in hospital for 4 weeks so he can ensure that he has a safety net after the next Holyrood election. Goes without saying but I hope he loses big time

Snake.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPY5Ru2asAEsa0U?format=jpg&name=medium

[grunt]

This is the writing of a former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. How low we have sunk under these ******* Tories.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPiZmR7XAAIayRe?format=jpg&name=medium

[JimBHibees]

This is the writing of a former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. How low we have sunk under these ******* Tories.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPiZmR7XAAIayRe?format=jpg&name=medium

How that idiot isnt in jail i don’t know.

[Jack]

How that idiot isnt in jail i don’t know.

I'd love it if Labour said they were going to chase down ALL the tory criminality over the last 14 years.

[JimBHibees]

I'd love it if Labour said they were going to chase down ALL the tory criminality over the last 14 years.

Maybe they would need to be careful if they did that. 😄 The Covid ppe scandal much like brexit is almost a Voldemort situation for the media in this country

[Ozyhibby]

I'd love it if Labour said they were going to chase down ALL the tory criminality over the last 14 years.

Zero chance of that happening.


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[Bostonhibby]

How that idiot isnt in jail i don’t know.Sounds like he hasn't sobered up from one of his lock down parties? You know, the ones he sanctioned and attended while people were following the rules but some were still dying.

Maybe better off hiding back inside a freezer again.

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[Kato]

I'd love it if Labour said they were going to chase down ALL the tory criminality over the last 14 years.1st week in office arrest the Post Office criminals.

2nd week in office arrest and interview the VIP lane criminals, facilatators and those who benefitted.

3rd week in office release the Russia Report.

4th week in office begin the arrests of known Russian assets.

That would set the tone for their tenure and allow the public to realise the last 14 years haven't been politics as normal.



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[Northernhibee]

Sunak has cancelled all media duties today.

[Kato]

Sunak has cancelled all media duties today.Should be sacked, along with "Lord" Cameron.

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[Bostonhibby]

Sunak has cancelled all media duties today.So that means he'll be turning up but just at the wrong place at the wrong time?

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[Northernhibee]

I do wonder if he might go before the election. The D-Day stuff won't go away.

[Bostonhibby]

I do wonder if he might go before the election. The D-Day stuff won't go away.The vipers in his party/cabinet aren't exactly fulsome in their backing of him.

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[JimBHibees]

1st week in office arrest the Post Office criminals.

2nd week in office arrest and interview the VIP lane criminals, facilatators and those who benefitted.

3rd week in office release the Russia Report.

4th week in office begin the arrests of known Russian assets.

That would set the tone for their tenure and allow the public to realise the last 14 years haven't been politics as normal.



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Couldn’t agree more

[weecounty hibby]

Douglas Ross. Nothing else needed really.

[Callum_62]

Douglas Ross. Nothing else needed really.I'm sure Douglas will do the right thing and stand down if he has been "stealing" money

Since that very thing is all he's banged on about for months

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[grunt]

I'm sure this will have been discussed on BBC Scotland's Sunday politics show ...?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPn8VY5WQAA4Qmg?format=jpg&name=medium

[Just Alf]

I'm sure Douglas will do the right thing and stand down if he has been "stealing" money

Since that very thing is all he's banged on about for months

Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using TapatalkHe's gone on enough about mathieson right enough... and he hadn't even 'claimed' the expense it was an automatic centralised bill.
In Ross's case he's had to actively put in the expense claim.

[Ozyhibby]

He's gone on enough about mathieson right enough... and he hadn't even 'claimed' the expense it was an automatic centralised bill.
In Ross's case he's had to actively put in the expense claim.

Will be interesting to see how much interest the BBC show in this compared to Matheson?


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[weecounty hibby]

Will be interesting to see how much interest the BBC show in this compared to Matheson?


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Oh, c'mon now. We all know how this will go. BBC Scotland are already reeling about how Flynn managed to get front and centre and not heckled by the host on Friday. They'll ignore it until its impossible to ignore, then give it a couple of headlines and then ignore it again. Just look at their website today. Not a mention

[Berwickhibby]

He's gone on enough about mathieson right enough... and he hadn't even 'claimed' the expense it was an automatic centralised bill.
In Ross's case he's had to actively put in the expense claim.

Ross needs to go but it’s laughable trying it suggest Matheson did not make a claim..both corrupt

[JimBHibees]

Ross needs to go but it’s laughable trying it suggest Matheson did not make a claim..both corrupt

Mathewson wouldn’t have made a claim but there would have been an expense. Not really corrupt if he subsequently paid for it.

[Stairway 2 7]

Mathewson wouldn’t have made a claim but there would have been an expense. Not really corrupt if he subsequently paid for it.

Nah he was streaming to family which is against the rules was highlighted to him, he said it was personal use so he'd put it through on his own expenses, only after the papers found it he said he'd pay himself, he also lied to parliament saying he didn't let others use his data. Despicable.

Ross is a completely separate issue and if true also disgusting and he needs to walk. One doesn't lesson the other

[Ozyhibby]

Nah he was streaming to family which is against the rules was highlighted to him, he said it was personal use so he'd put it through on his own expenses, only after the papers found it he said he'd pay himself, he also lied to parliament saying he didn't let others use his data. Despicable.

Ross is a completely separate issue and if true also disgusting and he needs to walk. One doesn't lesson the other

Both should be gone. That’s not how the media will play it though.


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[Just Alf]

Both should be gone. That’s not how the media will play it though.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAgreed.

But for clarification on the Matheson case, the first he knew about the high cost of the bill was when it was raised with him after the fact... he didn't make any expenses claim regarding it. The rest of how it was handled though is down to him.

[Ozyhibby]

Agreed.

But for clarification on the Matheson case, the first he knew about the high cost of the bill was when it was raised with him after the fact... he didn't make any expenses claim regarding it. The rest of how it was handled though is down to him.

The minute he lied about it his position was untenable.


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[Just Alf]

The minute he lied about it his position was untenable.


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[Berwickhibby]

I know a guy who works at Scottish Parliament who tells me EVERY expense or financial claim that is made, a big box comes up on screen that says, I confirm are true & accurate with disciplinary action if found to be untrue etc. Or does that not count for MSPs

[Hibrandenburg]

Richard Holden being given a severe beating in a Sky News interview, what an absolute joy to watch. Only question is why this sort of beating hasn't been dished out by the mainstream media the last few years?

[Just Alf]

I know a guy who works at Scottish Parliament who tells me EVERY expense or financial claim that is made, a big box comes up on screen that says, I confirm are true & accurate with disciplinary action if found to be untrue etc. Or does that not count for MSPsYup, in the Matheson case it doesn't remove the fact that it was after the fact it was raised, he never actually put un a claim for it, That's when it all went pear shaped, obviously he immediately agreed to pay back half as he was claiming an administration error for having the old sim card, conveniently forgetting the laddies had piggybacked of the WiFi for the footy so he should be stumping up for the bloody lot.

[Berwickhibby]

Yup, in the Matheson case it doesn't remove the fact that it was after the fact it was raised, he never actually put un a claim for it, That's when it all went pear shaped, obviously he immediately agreed to pay back half as he was claiming an administration error for having the old sim card, conveniently forgetting the laddies had piggybacked of the WiFi for the footy so he should be stumping up for the bloody lot.

Quote from various sources…he submitted an expenses claim

March - In the absence of a "clear explanation" of how the fees could have been incurred, the health secretary submits an expenses claim to contribute £3,000 from his office expenses, with the rest to be paid by parliament.

[Just Alf]

Quote from various sources…he submitted an expenses claim

March - In the absence of a "clear explanation" of how the fees could have been incurred, the health secretary submits an expenses claim to contribute £3,000 from his office expenses, with the rest to be paid by parliament.And that's why we all think he should be gone.

[Just Alf]

And apologies, just noticed this is the wrong thread

[Ozyhibby]

STV led with Ross expenses story. BBC didn’t run it.


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[grunt]

STV led with Ross expenses story. BBC didn’t run it. Hmm.


According to the Sunday Mail, Ross’s team have identified 28 claims he made to Westminister while carrying out work as a football referee after he had *already* been confronted about possible rule-breaking.

The findings have only recently come to light after the fallout over Ross replacing his sick colleague David Duguid to stand in his constituency of Banff and Buchan last week.

A senior Tory source revealed to the Sunday Mail the team discussed the travel claims when contacted by journalists but hoped nobody would pick them up. Ross apparently billed the taxpayer for flights between London to Glasgow and Edinburgh, where he was working as an SFA linesman. Only travel from an MP’s declared home airport, which in Ross’s case who was the MP for Moray would be Inverness or Aberdeen, can be claimed as constituency travel.

The expense watchdog, Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA), were led to believe that Ross was returning to his Moray constituency.

However, the claims were all wrongly classed as “London-constituency” with IPSA. Ross’s team identified the 28 expenses where he wrongly used parliamentary-funded travel for his refereeing work after he was first asked questions about the expenses by journalists in 2021.

The Sunday Mail also said a senior Tory source revealed Ross’s team had discussed the travel claims when contacted by the newspaper’s journalists, but hoped nobody would pick them up. The team had in fact identified multiple cases where the 41-year-old had combined parliamentary travel with linesman work or claims for parking while refereeing for the SFA on expenses.

According to the Sunday Mail, a party insider said: “The latest antics from Douglas are a disgrace and he should be ashamed of himself. He has always wanted to stay at Westminster and he’s completely screwed over a hard-working colleague to get there. Many of us are disgusted with it.

[JimBHibees]

Agreed.

But for clarification on the Matheson case, the first he knew about the high cost of the bill was when it was raised with him after the fact... he didn't make any expenses claim regarding it. The rest of how it was handled though is down to him.

That is kind of how i thought it would work out

[JimBHibees]

STV led with Ross expenses story. BBC didn’t run it.


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BBC nothing to see here. Absolutely despicable

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[jamie_1875]

BBC nothing to see here. Absolutely despicable

It's the headline on the BBC Scotland website, I don't know for sure but the BBC website will get way more views than the local BBC news?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland

[Hiber-nation]

BBC nothing to see here. Absolutely despicable

Still nothing on BBC Scotland TV news this morning despite the story being on their website. Not the main headline any more mind you so they'll be hoping it all blows over 😂

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceddenl8xz4o

I've found a reason to vote tory 🤣 at least in his constituency

[Berwickhibby]

Needs to resign full stop …never mind Tory leader if he has been caught ripping the tax payer of with his expenses and his collar felt

[Bristolhibby]

Needs to resign full stop …never mind Tory leader if he has been caught ripping the tax payer of with his expenses and his collar felt

Yip, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

This isn’t some mistake, and badly handled afterwards. This is being at it, trying to squeeze a few quid out of the taxpayer.

J

[Bristolhibby]

He's gone on enough about mathieson right enough... and he hadn't even 'claimed' the expense it was an automatic centralised bill.
In Ross's case he's had to actively put in the expense claim.

I know, that’s what makes it worse. Watching YouTube while on holiday vs actively putting in dodgy claims.

Got to go.

J

[Bristolhibby]

1st week in office arrest the Post Office criminals.

2nd week in office arrest and interview the VIP lane criminals, facilatators and those who benefitted.

3rd week in office release the Russia Report.

4th week in office begin the arrests of known Russian assets.

That would set the tone for their tenure and allow the public to realise the last 14 years haven't been politics as normal.



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5th week in office, align us to the EU and the single market as quickly as possible. Get our exports and imports in an even keel again. Expand FOM in due course. Stop making Britain feel like we have to kick all foreigners out, re staff the NHS, care homes and farming Labour.

J

[Bristolhibby]

Mathewson wouldn’t have made a claim but there would have been an expense. Not really corrupt if he subsequently paid for it.

Correct, if I use data abroad on my work phone it just goes through in the corporate account. If I was watching hours of Tic Tok I’d be given the chance to pay up.

What I do when I’m abroad with the work phone is, use it for work purposes. And use my actual phone for YouTube and Disney+.

J

[Bristolhibby]

I know a guy who works at Scottish Parliament who tells me EVERY expense or financial claim that is made, a big box comes up on screen that says, I confirm are true & accurate with disciplinary action if found to be untrue etc. Or does that not count for MSPs

I work for a Government Department, and the same check box comes up with our expenses claims. Would be surprised that most big businesses don’t do the same.

J

[Berwickhibby]

I know, that’s what makes it worse. Watching YouTube while on holiday vs actively putting in dodgy claims.

Got to go.

J

He was using his Government issue iPad to watch Celtic TV…that should be a criminal offence by definition alone 🤣🤣

[Stairway 2 7]

Correct, if I use data abroad on my work phone it just goes through in the corporate account. If I was watching hours of Tic Tok I’d be given the chance to pay up.

What I do when I’m abroad with the work phone is, use it for work purposes. And use my actual phone for YouTube and Disney+.

J

But the difference is when it was pointed out to him how much it was, he said it was all government business so he would use his msp allowance to pay 4k of it, fraud. If he was a single mum trying to screw the tax payer he'd be in court but politicians don't live like us

[Bristolhibby]

But the difference is when it was pointed out to him how much it was, he said it was all government business so he would use his msp allowance to pay 4k of it, fraud. If he was a single mum trying to screw the tax payer he'd be in court but politicians don't live like us

Yes, the response not the act was the issue. He should have ponied up the £4K and be done with it, put it down to being an idiot (especially as he was watching Celtic, if it was Hibs TV he could be forgiven).

Where as with Ross it’s the Act and the coverup that’s the issue.

J

[Stairway 2 7]

Yes, the response not the act was the issue. He should have ponied up the £4K and be done with it, put it down to being an idiot (especially as he was watching Celtic, if it was Hibs TV he could be forgiven).

Where as with Ross it’s the Act and the coverup that’s the issue.

J

It's definitely the act of covering up with Matheson. He knew he was sharing Internet which is illegal, lied saying he didn't and then said I'll put it on my tax payers expenses then. Pre meditated fraud. It was 6 months later it was found out and he admitted he tried to get the tax payer to pay and then he offered to pay himself.

Ross if guilty did similar, he knew he was lying but tried to stick it on the tax payer

[weecounty hibby]

Matheson has been a title and the SNP haven't dealt terribly well with that. But let's not lose sight of what this is about. Ross has once again shown that when it comes to rules, especially, finances, he feels he is above them.

[Stairway 2 7]

Matheson has been a title and the SNP haven't dealt terribly well with that. But let's not lose sight of what this is about. Ross has once again shown that when it comes to rules, especially, finances, he feels he is above them.

Matheson should have resigned 6 months ago and it wouldn't be a story. He doesn't care about the SNP as he let the story drag and damage for a year. I agree he has nothing to do with this Ross case whatsoever. Ross says the standards committee already checked the expenses but surely that was before the leaked messages. They need to get checking again and get him done. Couldn't happen to a better weasel than Ross, hopefully this destroys the chance of him winning the seat

[Bristolhibby]

It's definitely the act of covering up with Matheson. He knew he was sharing Internet which is illegal, lied saying he didn't and then said I'll put it on my tax payers expenses then. Pre meditated fraud. It was 6 months later it was found out and he admitted he tried to get the tax payer to pay and then he offered to pay himself.

Ross if guilty did similar, he knew he was lying but tried to stick it on the tax payer

The first point, could have been innocent. I know lots of corporate deals have unlimited internet. Things get tricky when you go abroad.

Used to be in my place that you had to go over your work phone bill and annotate calls that were personal then pay the cost.

Now contracts are all inclusive, no need to do that.

At the point that the public purse was put at expense, then he should have got his cheque book out.

The rest is shameful.

Ross’s seems more pre meditated to me. Twos upping on work and SFA, pretending it’s Parliamentary work when it’s actually SFA work. Dodgy AF.

Hopefully we can see the last of him (certainly in Westminster) by July. Frankly if it was Scottish Parliamentary Business that would be a resigning issue. In fact, the fact that he did this in any public capacity should be a resigning issue.

All I ever ask myself is, what would the reaction be if it were Jeremy Corbyn or Dianne Abbot who did any of these acts. If their head is demanded, then same same.

J

[Andy Bee]

Ross going to resign as Tory leader after the election and not stand as an MSP in the upcoming Scottish election if he wins a seat in the UK elections. Seems he's still going for MP though.

https://x.com/ScotNational/status/1800088550815477838http://

Fly lil git.

[Ozyhibby]

The first point, could have been innocent. I know lots of corporate deals have unlimited internet. Things get tricky when you go abroad.

Used to be in my place that you had to go over your work phone bill and annotate calls that were personal then pay the cost.

Now contracts are all inclusive, no need to do that.

At the point that the public purse was put at expense, then he should have got his cheque book out.

The rest is shameful.

Ross’s seems more pre meditated to me. Twos upping on work and SFA, pretending it’s Parliamentary work when it’s actually SFA work. Dodgy AF.

Hopefully we can see the last of him (certainly in Westminster) by July. Frankly if it was Scottish Parliamentary Business that would be a resigning issue. In fact, the fact that he did this in any public capacity should be a resigning issue.

All I ever ask myself is, what would the reaction be if it were Jeremy Corbyn or Dianne Abbot who did any of these acts. If their head is demanded, then same same.

J

Wonder if Ross sent the same receipt into the SFA as well?


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[Berwickhibby]

Wonder if Ross sent the same receipt into the SFA as well?


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Regardless it appears he has defrauded the public purse …this should be investigated and if the evidence is there charged with a criminal offence, I also feel the same about Matheson as he knowingly tried to get the tax payer to pay his roaming bill, even after it was pointed out to him he was deceitful trying to cover it up.

[Ozyhibby]

Ross going to resign as Tory leader after the election and not stand as an MSP in the upcoming Scottish election if he wins a seat in the UK elections. Seems he's still going for MP though.

https://x.com/ScotNational/status/1800088550815477838http://

Fly lil git.

Instead of resigning his MSP seat first, the public is now going to have to pay for a seperate by-election afterwards. The vote should be on the same day to save cash.


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[Stairway 2 7]

The first point, could have been innocent. I know lots of corporate deals have unlimited internet. Things get tricky when you go abroad.

Used to be in my place that you had to go over your work phone bill and annotate calls that were personal then pay the cost.

Now contracts are all inclusive, no need to do that.

At the point that the public purse was put at expense, then he should have got his cheque book out.

The rest is shameful.

Ross’s seems more pre meditated to me. Twos upping on work and SFA, pretending it’s Parliamentary work when it’s actually SFA work. Dodgy AF.

Hopefully we can see the last of him (certainly in Westminster) by July. Frankly if it was Scottish Parliamentary Business that would be a resigning issue. In fact, the fact that he did this in any public capacity should be a resigning issue.

All I ever ask myself is, what would the reaction be if it were Jeremy Corbyn or Dianne Abbot who did any of these acts. If their head is demanded, then same same.

J

No it wasn't an accident it's illegal for him to stream his data out to anyone including family as people can get access to his government phone. He broke the rules from the very first moment. He was a month later questioned on the big bill he said it was all constituency work a lie and due to that he'll put a claim in to pay 4k of it. He knew what he was doing. He made a mistake and should have offered to pay and it's would have got him sympathy if anything, instead he lied and tried to put in an expense claim

Ross also knew he was defrauding us, politicians think they are above us

[grunt]

LOL. I have no time for Patrick Harvie but this farewell to Ross is amusing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPtGR9VXkAATfLF?format=png&name=900x900

[Andy Bee]

Instead of resigning his MSP seat first, the public is now going to have to pay for a seperate by-election afterwards. The vote should be on the same day to save cash.


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Apparently they're not going to have a by-election if Ross stands down, is that even possible?

https://x.com/ScotNational/status/1800167884658028637

[CropleyWasGod]

Apparently they're not going to have a by-election if Ross stands down, is that even possible?

https://x.com/ScotNational/status/1800167884658028637

He's a list MSP, isn't he? So that means he can be replaced by another of his ilk.

I think.

[weecounty hibby]

I believe it goes to the 2nd on the list. Not sure who that was or what party

[Andy Bee]

I believe it goes to the 2nd on the list. Not sure who that was or what party


Ella Robertson-McKay, that'd be the one with her as MD and her mum the co-founder of the charity One Young World which was investigated for senior staff salaries and bonuses paid, it concluded with an "official warning" and the charity found guilty of misconduct or mismanagement and breach of trust.

[JimBHibees]

Got to be said Sunak think is a pretty good communicator. Don’t believe a word he says but puts it over well :greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

Got to be said Sunak think is a pretty good communicator. Don’t believe a word he says but puts it over well :greengrinWould you buy a used car from him?[emoji6]

Would he know where the petrol goes?

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[Bostonhibby]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/448173350_993202459474217_4242948821455071154_n.jp g?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=2sLoyoiwQ7gQ7kNvgEOSpmN&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AYCi7GcsC2E_UPqZYqSmi9J1hmu8uuEQMiMgS5T3Tksp gA&oe=666D3FE7Your going to be hard pushed to find a better example of someone putting themselves first and having absolutely no shame about how they achieve it or who they crap on along the way.

Reeks of income preservation on whatever gravy train he can claw his way onto.

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The bit below!! His replacement lives in London, a bit like the Labour candidate in Angus and Perthshire glens lives in Canterbury. Imagine the travel expenses for that!

[Kato]

Tories hooring around their 'greatest hits' policies/grifts for one last farewell tour.

How TV presenters keep a straight face is beyond me. I did hear the term "news performers" recently, so it's mibby that.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Tories hooring around their 'greatest hits' policies/grifts for one last farewell tour.

How TV presenters keep a straight face is beyond me. I did hear the term "news performers" recently, so it's mibby that.

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It's pathetic eh basically hit benefits to fund others wealth. I just laugh when I see a labour or Tory budget saying we'll get x amount from tax evasion, no you ******g won't you've never cared before and won't now

[Bristolhibby]

It's pathetic eh basically hit benefits to fund others wealth. I just laugh when I see a labour or Tory budget saying we'll get x amount from tax evasion, no you ******g won't you've never cared before and won't now

They’ve had 14 years to go after tax evasion (which they don’t care about).

What about Michelle Mone and the PPE scandal, Brexit (he who should not be named), small boat incompetence, abhorrent Rwanda policy, the Post Office, Grenville and combustible cladding across the housing market, Windrush and trying to deport people who were babies when their parents came to this country to rebuild it and the mini budget?

Their time is up!

J

[Kato]

It's pathetic eh basically hit benefits to fund others wealth. I just laugh when I see a labour or Tory budget saying we'll get x amount from tax evasion, no you ******g won't you've never cared before and won't nowThe traffic of hard cash through the City to Magic Island Banks is the elephant in the room with this economy. Their logarithms have rung people dry and its natural progression means it never stops. As long as it is more profitable to sneak profits offshore than invest in the nation we just have to put up with being rinsed.

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[Bostonhibby]

The traffic of hard cash through the City to Magic Island Banks is the elephant in the room with this economy. Their logarithms have rung people dry and its natural progression means it never stops. As long as it is more profitable to sneak profits offshore than invest in the nation we just have to put up with being rinsed.

Sent from my SM-A528B using Tapatalk[emoji106] you have somehow managed to encapsulate government policy for themselves and their supporters over the last decade or so, the manifesto they all understood but never openly discussed.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

poor wee Rishi :greengrin

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Your going to be hard pushed to find a better example of someone putting themselves first and having absolutely no shame about how they achieve it or who they crap on along the way.

Reeks of income preservation on whatever gravy train he can claw his way onto.

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he seems to be quite money driven, sometimes he even declares some of it...that we know of


The bit below!! His replacement lives in London, a bit like the Labour candidate in Angus and Perthshire glens lives in Canterbury. Imagine the travel expenses for that!


i can't seem to find it again but has trhat dude decided against it ? my heads even more mangled trying to keep up with events surrounding Colin Ross

[Moulin Yarns]

https://news.stv.tv/politics/scottish-tories-accuse-snp-of-betraying-public-over-delays-dualling-a9

The headline figures in the article is misleading. Divide the numbers by the miles of dual carriageway and single carriageway to get an accurate pet mile figure


For reference the section they are talking about is 30 miles dual carriageway and 80 miles single carriageway.

[lapsedhibee]

https://news.stv.tv/politics/scottish-tories-accuse-snp-of-betraying-public-over-delays-dualling-a9

The headline figures in the article is misleading. Divide the numbers by the miles of dual carriageway and single carriageway to get an accurate pet mile figure


For reference the section they are talking about is 30 miles dual carriageway and 80 miles single carriageway.
Indeed. A headline of 'Tories want more people to die on A9' would make as much sense.

[Northernhibee]

Huge Ipsos poll out later today. Will be a good indicator as to how much **** they’re in.

Edit, it’s just dropped

Labour majority of 256

· Labour: 453
· Conservatives: 115
· Lib Dems: 38
· SNP: 15
· Plaid Cymru: 4
· Reform UK: 3
· Greens: 3

Via IpsosUK. More details here: https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/ipsos-mrp-shows-labour-on-track-to-win-large-majority

[jamie_1875]

Huge Ipsos poll out later today. Will be a good indicator as to how much **** they’re in.

Huge Labour majority.

https://x.com/IpsosUK/status/1803107966637199746?s=19


SNP on 15 seats! That must be at the lower end of their expectations.

[marinello59]

Huge Ipsos poll out later today. Will be a good indicator as to how much **** they’re in.

Edit, it’s just dropped

Labour majority of 256

· Labour: 453
· Conservatives: 115
· Lib Dems: 38
· SNP: 15
· Plaid Cymru: 4
· Reform UK: 3
· Greens: 3

Via IpsosUK. More details here: https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/ipsos-mrp-shows-labour-on-track-to-win-large-majority

No way the SNP will only have 15 seats.

[Lendo]

Huge Ipsos poll out later today. Will be a good indicator as to how much **** they’re in.

Edit, it’s just dropped

Labour majority of 256

· Labour: 453
· Conservatives: 115
· Lib Dems: 38
· SNP: 15
· Plaid Cymru: 4
· Reform UK: 3
· Greens: 3

Via IpsosUK. More details here: https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/ipsos-mrp-shows-labour-on-track-to-win-large-majority

Seriously hope none of these 3 Reform seats are Farage. Will be delightful to see him lose his 7th or 8th election.

[Northernhibee]

Seriously hope none of these 3 Reform seats are Farage. Will be delightful to see him lose his 7th or 8th election.

Sadly he’s projected to win his seat.

[Kato]

Sadly he’s projected to win his seat.Maybe a real job would be the unmaking of him.

If Starmer has even the slightest inkling of geopolitics he'll have someone on the cabinet hammering the message of "russian money", "putins payroll" and "russian connections", as that is NF's ultimate boss.

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[degenerated]

Maybe a real job would be the unmaking of him.

If Starmer has even the slightest inkling of geopolitics he'll have someone on the cabinet hammering the message of "russian money", "putins payroll" and "russian connections", as that is NF's ultimate boss.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkMaybe he's acutely aware of the links between the old "new" labour element of his party and russian money.
In fact i doubt Mandelson would let him play that card given his directorship at russian weapons manufacturer Sisterma which he held until 2017, even after the annexation of Crimea.

[Kato]

Maybe he's acutely aware of the links between the old "new" labour element of his party and russian money.
In fact i doubt Mandelson would let him play that card given his directorship at russian weapons manufacturer Sisterma which he held until 2017, even after the annexation of Crimea.

I dare say there are more than Mandelson who have been inveigled to whatever degree. Purge them. Nothing like a good purge. Release the Russia report, compile a list. Get the press talking about that rather than the latest Tory Party catchphrase or their infighting or their trying to out-jingo each other.

I know most of their day to day will be sorting out the debris of the ******stastrophe that lot have left behind, but on the world stage a bit anti-putin theatre can only. Or will he stall to see if Trump gets in?

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[Jack]

So far 4 people close to Sunak are being investigated for alleged betting fraud linked to the date of the election.

To be honest if I'd thought about it I could probably have put a bet on about torys being dishonest about this.

It would have been crap odds I suppose. The torys are dishonest about everything.

[grunt]

To be honest if I'd thought about it I could probably have put a bet on about torys being dishonest about this.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQlYqV0XIAAGSBB?format=png&name=900x900

[Kato]

So far 4 people close to Sunak are being investigated for alleged betting fraud linked to the date of the election.

To be honest if I'd thought about it I could probably have put a bet on about torys being dishonest about this.

It would have been crap odds I suppose. The torys are dishonest about everything."Once I had discovered the date of the election I found myself accidently placing a large bet on it being the date in question. I apologise if people feel outraged and I promise my winnings will be given away to (my) charity. End off."

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[JimBHibees]

"Once I had discovered the date of the election I found myself accidently placing a large bet on it being the date in question. I apologise if people feel outraged and I promise my winnings will be given away to (my) charity. End off."

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Accidentally 😂

[JimBHibees]

Maybe he's acutely aware of the links between the old "new" labour element of his party and russian money.
In fact i doubt Mandelson would let him play that card given his directorship at russian weapons manufacturer Sisterma which he held until 2017, even after the annexation of Crimea.

Wow didn’t know about that and Mandelson. Simply wow

[Bostonhibby]

Accidentally [emoji23]As in, there I was walking along the pavement in an honest conservative sort of a way, when suddenly I tripped over a loose paving stone, fell through a Turf Accounts shop door, whilst trying to keep my balance I accidentally picked up a betting slip and pen as a result of the severe head injury I didn't receive, to my horror I found that I accidentally put a large wedge on a date I thought a general election might accidentally happen on in an accidental sort of way?

And so did my husband.


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[JimBHibees]

As in, there I was walking along the pavement in an honest conservative sort of a way, when suddenly I tripped over a loose paving stone, fell through a Turf Accounts shop door, whilst trying to keep my balance I accidentally picked up a betting slip and pen as a result of the severe head injury I didn't receive, to my horror I found that I accidentally put a large wedge on a date I thought a general election might accidentally happen on in an accidental sort of way?

And so did my husband.


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Yes something like that :faf:

[Kato]

And so did my husband.


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...and a policeman within earshot.

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[Kato]

Accidentally [emoji23]It's not as outrageous as "There wasn't any parties/there was parties but I wasn't at them/I was at the parties but I didn't know they were parties."

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[Bostonhibby]

...and a policeman within earshot.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkCould happen to any of us, bit like getting onto Lord Deighton's fast track Covid contract merry go round.

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[DaveF]

Another one being investigated for betting while an aide to (not so) Cleverly caught on film saying the Rwanda scheme is crap.

People who vote for this lot are off their heads.

[Kato]

People who vote for this lot are off their heads.

That used to be quite a controversial thing to say on here. Your post has been up a day and even 18 months ago there would have been a few who would have been outraged. Maybe they're all siding with Farage these days.

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[Jack]

Another one being investigated for betting while an aide to (not so) Cleverly caught on film saying the Rwanda scheme is crap.

People who vote for this lot are off their heads.

And apparently more to come.

[grunt]

The Tories should be hung drawn and quartered for their abysmal performance during Covid. So much money wasted. They should never form a Government again and certain Ministers should be in prison.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cll476qzm85o?xtor=AL-72-%5Bpartner%5D-%5Bbbc.news.twitter%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D&at_link_origin=BBCNews&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_format=link&at_campaign_type=owned&at_medium=social&at_link_type=web_link&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_link_id=33B7986C-32B5-11EF-8A59-86C905F366AB


Government destroys £1.4bn of PPE from one Covid deal

[JimBHibees]

The Tories should be hung drawn and quartered for their abysmal performance during Covid. So much money wasted. They should never form a Government again and certain Ministers should be in prison.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cll476qzm85o?xtor=AL-72-%5Bpartner%5D-%5Bbbc.news.twitter%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D&at_link_origin=BBCNews&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_format=link&at_campaign_type=owned&at_medium=social&at_link_type=web_link&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_link_id=33B7986C-32B5-11EF-8A59-86C905F366AB

Should be in prison but won’t be compare and contrast

[Paul1642]

The Tories should be hung drawn and quartered for their abysmal performance during Covid. So much money wasted. They should never form a Government again and certain Ministers should be in prison.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cll476qzm85o?xtor=AL-72-%5Bpartner%5D-%5Bbbc.news.twitter%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D&at_link_origin=BBCNews&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_format=link&at_campaign_type=owned&at_medium=social&at_link_type=web_link&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_link_id=33B7986C-32B5-11EF-8A59-86C905F366AB

What on earth are we destroying it for. Surely these things have a long shelf life and can be stored somewhere so that got forbid another pandemic happens we have a slight head start?

Also some do these items are still used by the NHS for surgeries and other uses. Why is it not just being distributed.

[Moulin Yarns]

What on earth are we destroying it for. Surely these things have a long shelf life and can be stored somewhere so that got forbid another pandemic happens we have a slight head start?

Also some do these items are still used by the NHS for surgeries and other uses. Why is it not just being distributed.

Not sure about this particular ppe but a lot was found to be not fit for purpose.

[grunt]

Not sure about this particular ppe but a lot was found to be not fit for purpose.
Not the case here. Nothing wrong with it.

[Moulin Yarns]

Not the case here. Nothing wrong with it.

Yep, a legitimate supplier, which begs the question, why has it been destroyed?

[Lendo]

Read last night that they had already spent £100m on storage so I’m guessing destroying is cheaper than maintaining storage long term. However £100m for storage seems outrageous too, probably renting a garage from Michelle Mone and her husband.

[Kato]

However £100m for storage seems outrageous too, probably renting a garage from Michelle Mone and her husband.

Can't find the article but it was some Tory associate who was being paid to store some. Chinese Govt also being paid rent for PPE we bought but never bothered importing.




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[Jack]

Somewhere someone in the world must want to buy some PPE!

[Lendo]

Somewhere someone in the world must want to buy some PPE!

Surely even a fraction of this stuff could be used in Gaza or Ukraine by humanitarian organisations!?

Edit: I can tell you ****ing why in fact, because the Conservative/Reform voters would be foaming at the mouth at Daily Mail headlines like “£1b of TAX PAYER money sent to nasty foreigners”.

[Stairway 2 7]

The article said it was bought in 2020 and had a 3 year shelf life?

[cabbageandribs1875]

:) https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/448905646_7781119505267294_1056264177187034449_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=M0JVwdlAe3AQ7kNvgHSVzqC&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AYBD9K9yTwFtKtxO1bcsMwKX7WUrr0_gMH4U9r9Vbv2N xQ&oe=6680D521

[DaveF]

Alistair Jack. What a guy, er I mean bellend.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czkk0d19kgdo

[Bostonhibby]

Alistair Jack. What a guy, er I mean bellend.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czkk0d19kgdoSounds like he thinks saying he and no one connected to him placed a bet in May gets him off the hook.





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[DaveF]

Sounds like he thinks saying he and no one connected to him placed a bet in May gets him off the hook.

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Yep, if I keep saying May, no one will look at all the bets I placed in April.

[Bostonhibby]

Yep, if I keep saying May, no one will look at all the bets I placed in April.It's almost like when Bozo wasn't allowing parties during lockdown when Bozo was making speeches and proposing toasts at parties he attended during lockdown.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

Jonathan Pie's latest... X-rated(but very apt) language :greengrin Trussonomics


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGVNd5yuRT4

[DaveF]

Jack now admits to placing a winning bet in April, winning £120 but countering it with 2 losing bets he placed in March.

[Stairway 2 7]

Jack now admits to placing a winning bet in April, winning £120 but countering it with 2 losing bets he placed in March.

Actually think his is nothing like the others who used information they learnt to make a profit. He put 3 bets on may, June and a July to September and won a small amount, obviously just fun. Grouping him diminishes the rest. It's not against the rules for politicians to bet on politics, that should change. Lewis Goodall on Newsagents was saying it's a tradition for candidates to bet against themselves. Needs to be a separation from the unwise to the illegal

[DaveF]

Actually think his is nothing like the others who used information they learnt to make a profit. He put 3 bets on may, June and a July to September and won a small amount, obviously just fun. Grouping him diminishes the rest. It's not against the rules for politicians to bet on politics, that should change. Lewis Goodall on Newsagents was saying it's a tradition for candidates to bet against themselves. Needs to be a separation from the unwise to the illegal

It is different but it should not be overlooked that it's been reported Jack was an advocate for an early GE and as a cabinet member had influence.

He might have only won £120 but how many of his circle also had a bet?

[jamie_1875]

All MPs and officials should be banned from betting on politics like footballers are banned from betting on football (well I think they are)

[Stairway 2 7]

It is different but it should not be overlooked that it's been reported Jack was an advocate for an early GE and as a cabinet member had influence.

He might have only won £120 but how many of his circle also had a bet?

He also lost 2. The cabinet were shocked into a rage at Sunak throwing a fast election the tories weren't ready, no one knew in April including Sunak. If his circle made a bet the gambling commission will find out, so far 15 cases getting looked at for bets in may. Only a few will get done as they will have bet once knowing the information. Nothing can happen to the others as there isn't rules against politicians betting on political matters.

[Stairway 2 7]

All MPs and officials should be banned from betting on politics like footballers are banned from betting on football (well I think they are)

Yes definitely

[Sergio sledge]

Whilst it is enjoyable to see the Tories imploding like this, is it just me that feels a little bit of frustration that the bookies are allowed to stack everything in their favour and take whatever bets they want, knowing full well that they'll always be in profit. But as soon as a punter has some knowledge that could stack the odds in their favour they cry foul and claim it shouldn't be allowed and potentially get the police involved? Don't take a bet on something that someone could conceivably know the answer to if you don't want to lose.

It's a bit like card counting to me, it's not illegal, but casinos are quite happy to take everyone's money when the odds are in their favour but as soon as someone comes in with a highly developed skill which allows them to tip the odds ever so slightly the other way the casinos hate it and blacklist people for doing it.

I hate bookies and casinos.

[Ozyhibby]

Alex Cole Hamilton now putting bets on.


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[overdrive]

Alistair Jack. What a guy, er I mean bellend.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czkk0d19kgdo

Funny I was about to mention him in relation to the posts above your post about the PPE. It wouldn't surprise me if he was benefitting from the storage of the PPE. His business is storage units - the one in the old Jenners building at Balgreen, for example was one of his (he appears to have resigned as a director of it now though).

[Jack]

Whilst it is enjoyable to see the Tories imploding like this, is it just me that feels a little bit of frustration that the bookies are allowed to stack everything in their favour and take whatever bets they want, knowing full well that they'll always be in profit. But as soon as a punter has some knowledge that could stack the odds in their favour they cry foul and claim it shouldn't be allowed and potentially get the police involved? Don't take a bet on something that someone could conceivably know the answer to if you don't want to lose.

It's a bit like card counting to me, it's not illegal, but casinos are quite happy to take everyone's money when the odds are in their favour but as soon as someone comes in with a highly developed skill which allows them to tip the odds ever so slightly the other way the casinos hate it and blacklist people for doing it.

I hate bookies and casinos.

I don't like bookies and casinos either but I can see their point when the element of chance is removed by nefarious means.


Nefarious used only because I like the sound of the word 😆 I hope that in future history it will be used a lot to describe the former crime syndicate known as the tory party.

[Just Alf]

The article said it was bought in 2020 and had a 3 year shelf life?Stored like this would help its shelf life for sure....

BBC News - Government lost £1.4bn on PPE contract with Full Support Healthcare - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cll476qzm85o

[Keith_M]

Kemi Badenoch, criticised by David Tennant, and her only response is to play the race card.


"A rich, lefty, white male celebrity so blinded by ideology he can't see the optics of attacking the only black woman in government..."
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/doctor-who-david-tennant-kemi-badenoch-lgbt-rights-clash-b1166755.html


OK, I'd have no problem with her criticising what Tennant actually said, as it could well be considered as over the top, but that's a pretty poor way to approach this.

[grunt]

https://x.com/GregHands/status/1805990458159481219


Amanda says “I have always voted Labour, but for the first time in my life I will be voting for Greg Hands.”

“I have decided to vote with my heart and for the local community where I live.”

Amanda is a Conservative councillor ... :greengrin

[Just Alf]

https://x.com/GregHands/status/1805990458159481219



Amanda is a Conservative councillor ... :greengrinThat is a corker, will they never stop?!


More and more I really can't understand why anyone would vote for them this time around.

Surely even die hard Conservative supporters would want to send a strong message to their party by way of withholding their votes?

[cabbageandribs1875]

the little runt
https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/449183679_787358313577554_6813554044291961789_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=XavN5qwSkvcQ7kNvgFa-6ql&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AYCxc9Po9-qapnKOZVg4sFNQEVZ0SlaCOKakjE7MU11URQ&oe=66838461

[cabbageandribs1875]

the Good Law Project produced this short 20-min Docu the other day about the effect good old 55 Tufton street has in rubbishing climate change, and the anonymous donors who drive it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbxKlsVtpPI

[Colr]

Kemi Badenoch, criticised by David Tennant, and her only response is to play the race card.


"A rich, lefty, white male celebrity so blinded by ideology he can't see the optics of attacking the only black woman in government..."
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/doctor-who-david-tennant-kemi-badenoch-lgbt-rights-clash-b1166755.html


OK, I'd have no problem with her criticising what Tennant actually said, as it could well be considered as over the top, but that's a pretty poor way to approach this.

But “she can’t be racist because she’s black”!

[Colr]

https://x.com/GregHands/status/1805990458159481219



Amanda is a Conservative councillor ... :greengrin

Councillor Amanda Lloyd-Harris

[Just Alf]

But “she can’t be racist because she’s black”!Most racist person I know is black.

Really couldn't believe it. Turns out levels of blackness actually matter! Jeezo

[grunt]

True colours.


Tory student group apologises after members ‘danced to Nazi song’

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/tory-student-group-apologises-after-members-danced-to-nazi-song-b8jnzs7z2

https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1807335824230396037

[Colr]

True colours.



https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/tory-student-group-apologises-after-members-danced-to-nazi-song-b8jnzs7z2

https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1807335824230396037

They knew the words!

[Lendo]

They knew the words!

This will be learned behaviour from their parents and grandparents.

[lapsedhibee]

Lord Grayling.

[Colr]

This will be learned behaviour from their parents and grandparents.

My grandfathers had to go to war to fight Fascists and here they are in our country and in the mother of Parliaments.

We need to get our boots back on their necks in this country!

[overdrive]

Sunak resigns as leader. No surprise. However, some WTAF moments in his speech. Speaks of the need to uphold tolerance. Ironic given some of his policies.

“This is the greatest country in the world”. Well except for the USA where he will be swanning off to ASAP if he can get his green card back.

[SHODAN]

Not at all optimistic about Labour, but still absolutely delighted these ghouls no longer have power.

Goodbye. **** off!

[Stairway 2 7]

Had to check this wasn't a parody. Rees-Mogg is doing a reality show for discovery. It'll be like a history show watching an 18th century bigot. Watching him lose his seat might be bants though

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/filming-starts-on-jacob-rees-mogg-reality-tv-show

[Colr]

Had to check this wasn't a parody. Rees-Mogg is doing a reality show for discovery. It'll be like a history show watching an 18th century bigot. Watching him lose his seat might be bants though

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/filming-starts-on-jacob-rees-mogg-reality-tv-show

‘Reality’, you say?

[JimBHibees]

Not at all optimistic about Labour, but still absolutely delighted these ghouls no longer have power.

Goodbye. **** off!

Pretty much sums it up

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/hughrbrechin/status/1815797641134911508?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

Made me chuckle.[emoji23]


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[grunt]

Chief Secretary to Treasury Darren Jones told #Newsnight last night that "the government communication service was spending hundreds of millions of pounds on filming content for Conservative ministers’ social media channels".

[JimBHibees]

Chief Secretary to Treasury Darren Jones told #Newsnight last night that "the government communication service was spending hundreds of millions of pounds on filming content for Conservative ministers’ social media channels".

Wow nothing surprises they should be jailed for this

[grunt]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/31/kemi-badenoch-asked-to-use-taxpayers-money-to-pay-for-holiday-flight-sources-claim?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


Kemi Badenoch asked to use taxpayers’ money to pay for holiday flight, sources claim
MP also allegedly used her ministerial car for gym trips and ordered advisers to run personal errands

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/31/kemi-badenoch-asked-to-use-taxpayers-money-to-pay-for-holiday-flight-sources-claim?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Seems huge

[grunt]

Seems huge
Oh so you think it's ok then?

[Stairway 2 7]

Oh so you think it's ok then?

Genuinely replied to wrong message sorry. The article you shared is outrageous. In a normal party she wouldn't be able to run as leade. The car she could excuse but the holiday will be criminal no, as bad as Matheson?

[grunt]

Genuinely replied to wrong message sorry. The article you shared is outrageous. In a normal party she wouldn't be able to run as leade. The car she could excuse but the holiday will be criminal no, as bad as Matheson?
:aok:

[grunt]

Truss by Donkeys


https://youtu.be/nvTtr5JfoMo?si=_zSrr9ZUz93LsPiY

[Bostonhibby]

Truss by Donkeys


https://youtu.be/nvTtr5JfoMo?si=_zSrr9ZUz93LsPiYJust out there trying to hustle an honest buck, massage the ego by impressing people who don't know any better and this happens.

You've got to feel sorry for the lettuce. Surely she can't go on trying to hog it's limelight everywhere the legendary Asteraceae goes.

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[lapsedhibee]

Truss by Donkeys


https://youtu.be/nvTtr5JfoMo?si=_zSrr9ZUz93LsPiY

Did the Trussster storm off because she thought the host had done it to her? "That's not funny." Not as not funny as you being Prime Minister hen. Lost count of the number of planks Truss is as thick as.

[Bostonhibby]

Did the Trussster storm off because she thought the host had done it to her? "That's not funny." Not as not funny as you being Prime Minister hen. Lost count of the number of planks Truss is as thick as.Maybe just concerned she might be dragged into a debate with the lettuce.

Her creeping around as a trump admirer isn't a great look.

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[grunt]

Her creeping around as a trump admirer isn't a great look.
It's quite incredible. How do you go from Lib Dem Remainer to libertarian Trumpster in such a short time?

[Bostonhibby]

It's quite incredible. How do you go from Lib Dem Remainer to libertarian Trumpster in such a short time?Craven attention seeker looking for some validation/reincarnation?

Or maybe just showing what she has always been? Tory masks frequently slip. Thankfully she was part of the electoral clear out over here.

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[Lendo]

It's quite incredible. How do you go from Lib Dem Remainer to libertarian Trumpster in such a short time?

Money

[cabbageandribs1875]

Mr wan kerr didn't realise his views were public

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/455499483_8138167946239965_6390227624155462974_n.j pg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=LW5emWwFi5IQ7kNvgGWMTCF&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AYBifa_-0Ot5Wp0YkB0Xp9T1Rx3sWJ4w1QAny8TYjg9RJA&oe=66C48A0B

[lapsedhibee]

Mr wan kerr didn't realise his views were public

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/455499483_8138167946239965_6390227624155462974_n.j pg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=LW5emWwFi5IQ7kNvgGWMTCF&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AYBifa_-0Ot5Wp0YkB0Xp9T1Rx3sWJ4w1QAny8TYjg9RJA&oe=66C48A0B

Struggling to see how 'Dozy tory ****s up' is 'an amazing story'. More like 'everyday story for the whole of the last decade'.

[Stairway 2 7]

Mr wan kerr didn't realise his views were public

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/455499483_8138167946239965_6390227624155462974_n.j pg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=LW5emWwFi5IQ7kNvgGWMTCF&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AYBifa_-0Ot5Wp0YkB0Xp9T1Rx3sWJ4w1QAny8TYjg9RJA&oe=66C48A0B

😆 that is brilliant, what a dolt

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm23z3yeeyko


Stand aside so I can win for once.

[grunt]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm23z3yeeyko

Stand aside so I can win for once.

"Mr Fraser insisted he could win over previous SNP voters and become first minister of Scotland at some point in the future." :greengrin

[Kato]

"Mr Fraser insisted he could win over previous SNP voters and become first minister of Scotland at some point in the future." :greengrinBeing entitled and deluded is a potent brew.

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[grunt]

I'm no great fan of Janey Godley, but no one facing cancer deserves to have the potential leader of the Scottish Tories post this on social media.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVpRIFtWMAA2O64?format=jpg&name=large

[McD]

I'm no great fan of Janey Godley, but no one facing cancer deserves to have the potential leader of the Scottish Tories post this on social media.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVpRIFtWMAA2O64?format=jpg&name=large



Totally agree. It doesn’t matter who you are, having cancer is not something to be made fun of, it takes a special kind of low to not only think it, but to go out your way to post something like that

[Stairway 2 7]

Totally agree. It doesn’t matter who you are, having cancer is not something to be made fun of, it takes a special kind of low to not only think it, but to go out your way to post something like that

He wasn't talking about cancer. I've seen a few sites use this this pic this week. They have cropped the date to make it look like it's recent. It was the day after all her racist remarks hit the papers in 2021. Murdo is a horrendous person but this is poor. It would be disgusting to make fun of JG's cancer but I think it's ok to call her a racist bigot

[Bristolhibby]

It's quite incredible. How do you go from Lib Dem Remainer to libertarian Trumpster in such a short time?

Ask Russell Brand.

J

[Stairway 2 7]

Ask Russell Brand.

J

Even worse he saw himself as Marxist anti big business, now he goes to the Republican convention 💰 💸

[JimBHibees]

I'm no great fan of Janey Godley, but no one facing cancer deserves to have the potential leader of the Scottish Tories post this on social media.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVpRIFtWMAA2O64?format=jpg&name=large

Similarly not a huge fan of Godley but dear oh dear a wee bit of common decency would be good. Pretty despicable by Fraser

[marinello59]

Similarly not a huge fan of Godley but dear oh dear a wee bit of common decency would be good. Pretty despicable by Fraser

Except, as mentioned already, this was about her racist comments, not her having cancer.

[Jones28]

Even worse he saw himself as Marxist anti big business, now he goes to the Republican convention 💰 💸

Good video here with Olly Dugmore from JOE and George Monbiot.

[Bristolhibby]

Even worse he saw himself as Marxist anti big business, now he goes to the Republican convention 💰 💸

I know, his 180° has been astonishing. He was live watching the DNC with Neil f***ing Oliver last night.

Guess he had to jump ship to the US and reinvent himself with all the accusations leveled at him last year.

He’s a Bible thumping Christian now too.

J

[McD]

He wasn't talking about cancer. I've seen a few sites use this this pic this week. They have cropped the date to make it look like it's recent. It was the day after all her racist remarks hit the papers in 2021. Murdo is a horrendous person but this is poor. It would be disgusting to make fun of JG's cancer but I think it's ok to call her a racist bigot



Ah, fair enough, thanks for the heads up :aok: I retract the comments about him made about mocking cancer

[grunt]

He wasn't talking about cancer. I've seen a few sites use this this pic this week. They have cropped the date to make it look like it's recent. It was the day after all her racist remarks hit the papers in 2021. Murdo is a horrendous person but this is poor. It would be disgusting to make fun of JG's cancer but I think it's ok to call her a racist bigot


Except, as mentioned already, this was about her racist comments, not her having cancer.
Apologies for posting if this is the case. It doesn't make much sense to me if Fraser is suggesting Trump would be pleased to discover Godley is racist, but I guess you had to be there to make proper sense of it.

[JimBHibees]

Except, as mentioned already, this was about her racist comments, not her having cancer.

Ok fair enough doesn’t change the perception of the tweeter though

[Hibrandenburg]

I'm no great fan of Janey Godley, but no one facing cancer deserves to have the potential leader of the Scottish Tories post this on social media.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVpRIFtWMAA2O64?format=jpg&name=large

Surely that's fake?

[lapsedhibee]

Surely that's fake?

Has to be. Fraser's got a much better, more imaginative, sense of humour than that. Eg, he thinks he can become First Minister.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn49w2n7jnxo


OMG

[Stairway 2 7]

Ok fair enough doesn’t change the perception of the tweeter though

It shouldn't he was just saying this week he thinks two men shouldn't be able to adopt as it's not natural, he's a creep