Tories are still lying *******s

[Stairway 2 7]

Broken clock and all that

Jacob_Rees_Mogg
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1h
The Prime Minister is right not to go to COP. The cost of living won’t be solved in Sharm el Sheikh where each hotel room for the conference is £2,000 a night

NadineDorries
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For balance, my friend…The Prime Minister is WRONG not to go to COP. Global warming is the biggest crisis facing our planet and net zero creates many 1000s of jobs which is good for the economy. COP in Glasgow was most successful ever… but don’t expect media to report that

[grunt]

Jacob_Rees_MoggSeems he is a liar ...

Rees-Mogg to Laura Kuenssberg on Sunday: “Boris Johnson will certainly stand.”

Rees-Mogg today: “His campaign started well but then ran out of steam. This was clear by Sunday morning, when my slumbers were disturbed by the great man himself prior to the Kuenssberg programme.”

https://twitter.com/KevinASchofield/status/1585914579325833216?s=20&t=RZSlpJGb7R9tVEOiU4gYww

[McSwanky]

Seems he is a liar ...

In other news, water is wet and Hearts still haven't won the League Cup...

[wookie70]

A few weeks in the life of Douglas Ross.

https://twitter.com/marcuscarslaw1/status/1585592852205166593 Funny I was talking about that to my brother last night. Wish I knew about the link then. He is a political chameleon who will change any colour of blue for a tickle under the chin from Westminster

[wookie70]

I am astounded by the people saying that it's ok to bring Braverman back into government because she used her private email deliberately as a political weapon against Truss.

FFS, that's much worse than her just being careless. It would be a sacking for a low level Civil Servant and that would be one with less sensitive documents. It is perhaps worse than her evil twin being let off with bullying but as a Public Servant and Union rep it really grinds my gears what Ministers get away with and the toils that their employees face day to day

[Just_Jimmy]

It would be a sacking for a low level Civil Servant and that would be one with less sensitive documents. It is perhaps worse than her evil twin being let off with bullying but as a Public Servant and Union rep it really grinds my gears what Ministers get away with and the toils that their employees face day to dayCorrect, especially since she acts as the very top of the home office, which includes civil servants and police officers etc who, as you allude too, who be sacked but probably criminally prosecuted for what she did.

It's shameful but they don't feel shame.

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[Bostonhibby]

Gary Glitter's lawyers will be all over this for defamation[emoji6]

https://twitter.com/TSting18/status/1585947757109387264?t=ZamjAXEwkmxMA6n3OZ1HAQ&s=08

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[OldEast]

Funny I was talking about that to my brother last night. Wish I knew about the link then. He is a political chameleon who will change any colour of blue for a tickle under the chin from Westminster

Ruth the mooth was a party sycophant like wee Dougie but she got some people on board. Surely this wee idiot can only be driving folk away.

[wookie70]

Ruth the mooth was a party sycophant like wee Dougie but she got some people on board. Surely this wee idiot can only be driving folk away. To be fair Tory supporters aren't much better.

[Ozyhibby]

Funny I was talking about that to my brother last night. Wish I knew about the link then. He is a political chameleon who will change any colour of blue for a tickle under the chin from Westminster

And that’s what he wants for Scotland. Constantly seeking approval from London.


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[Hibernia&Alba]

Absolutely this.

I've just finished a book called Irish, about the influx and subsequent influences of the Irish, both Catholic and protestant, into Glasgow.

A lot of stuff I didn't know. Edinburgh hibernian gets an honourable mention when it comes to formation of the Keltic by brother Walfrid.

Was it 'Clydeside: Red, Orange, Green' by Ian Mitchell, at all?

[Keith_M]

:agree:
There seems to be a consistent attempt to deny anyone is motivated to vote a particular way because of racism, when it’s clearly some peoples strong motivation, as it would be if your priority was the NHS, or the environment, or low taxes. I don’t know why anyone would deny something so evidently true. A consistent 20-25% of us, regardless of wider societal change, just don’t like the ****ing *****.


Or the Bl**dy Poles...


Hence the success of Brexit.

[Moulin Yarns]

Was it 'Clydeside: Red, Orange, Green' by Ian Mitchell, at all?

The books title is Irish.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Irish-Remarkable-Saga-Nation-City/dp/1840188510/ref=asc_df_1840188510/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310979544451&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16305403887140605608&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20342&hvtargid=pla-563048627906&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

John Burrows is the author.

[Hibernia&Alba]

The books title is Irish.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Irish-Remarkable-Saga-Nation-City/dp/1840188510/ref=asc_df_1840188510/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310979544451&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16305403887140605608&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20342&hvtargid=pla-563048627906&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

John Burrows is the author.

Cheers, I might look it up. Sounds interesting.

[Glory Lurker]

:agree:
There seems to be a consistent attempt to deny anyone is motivated to vote a particular way because of racism, when it’s clearly some peoples strong motivation, as it would be if your priority was the NHS, or the environment, or low taxes. I don’t know why anyone would deny something so evidently true. A consistent 20-25% of us, regardless of wider societal change, just don’t like the ****ing *****.

Exactly. What did the red wall vote Tory for, after voting Leave?

[Bostonhibby]

Exactly. What did the red wall vote Tory for, after voting Leave?It's a toughie to answer, the levelling up illusion, the expectation that as the new breed of tory they might get their snout a bit nearer the trough?

That's worked out well.

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[Glory Lurker]

It's a toughie to answer, the levelling up illusion, the expectation that as the new breed of tory they might get their snout a bit nearer the trough?

That's worked out well.

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Still, I've more in common with them than I have a crofter on Lewis apparently, bless 'em.

[Bostonhibby]

Still, I've more in common with them than I have a crofter on Lewis apparently, bless 'em.I've got a relative from Lewis and I don't see the connection[emoji6]

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[Stairway 2 7]

Still, I've more in common with them than I have a crofter on Lewis apparently, bless 'em.

What about all the Tory voters in Edinburgh, or a racist from Glasgow. Nationalism is a load of pish and dangerous. Good guys and pricks everywhere

[Glory Lurker]

What about all the Tory voters in Edinburgh, or a racist from Glasgow. Nationalism is a load of pish and dangerous. Good guys and pricks everywhere

I'm referring to a trope that members of the Scottish branch of the Labour Party deployed all the time in the 60s to 90 to keep the Scottish working class vote on their side.

There's still a few of them at it!

[marinello59]

Still, I've more in common with them than I have a crofter on Lewis apparently, bless 'em.

That doesn’t make sense at all even allowing for your follow up post.

[Glory Lurker]

That doesn’t make sense at all even allowing for your follow up post.

I've got more in common with a [insert working class occupation here in a part of north England that voted for Brexit and then for Boris Johnson] than I have with someone living a different way of life in the heedrum hodrums.

That was a regular argument put at me by "internationalist " Labour folk back in the day.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Oh dear God


https://youtu.be/aCQhQhma1So

[Stairway 2 7]

I've got more in common with a [insert working class occupation here in a part of north England that voted for Brexit and then for Boris Johnson] than I have with someone living a different way of life in the heedrum hodrums.

That was a regular argument put at me by "internationalist " Labour folk back in the day.

A third of Scots approve of the Rwanda policy, a quarter voted tory in the last election. Independence won't get rid of that. This othering of people is bad. I want Independence to get rid of the flawed corrupt Westminster system. I don't want it because Scots are better or doesn't have racists

[Stairway 2 7]

https://archive.ph/xKfgh

Another fawning Sunak piece in the times about how smart he is. It says he was instrumental and intelligent to stop the lockdown at Christmas that Scotland had. It turned out in hindsight that was correct.

It fails to ****** mention he apposed every lockdown including the first. If we followed him with that business only approach literally hundreds of thousands would be dead. He brought covid deniers to talk to cabinet. Thank god boris shaken by being hospitalised after shacking everyone's hands like a tit, apposed them and listened to Whitty and valance.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/48-hours-in-september-when-ministers-and-scientists-split-over-covid-lockdown-vg5xbpsfx

[Mr Grieves]

https://archive.ph/xKfgh

Another fawning Sunak piece in the times about how smart he is. It says he was instrumental and intelligent to stop the lockdown at Christmas that Scotland had. It turned out in hindsight that was correct.

It fails to ****** mention he apposed every lockdown including the first. If we followed him with that business only approach literally hundreds of thousands would be dead. He brought covid deniers to talk to cabinet. Thank god boris shaken by being hospitalised after shacking everyone's hands like a tit, apposed them and listened to Whitty and valance.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/48-hours-in-september-when-ministers-and-scientists-split-over-covid-lockdown-vg5xbpsfx

It also fails to mention that Sunak was the journalist's best man

[Stairway 2 7]

It also fails to mention that Sunak was the journalist's best man

Oooft just checked and your not joking, unreal that 😆

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1586118108003147777

@SkyNews
🗣️ 'It's a pity you don't pay them more'.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak was challenged about pay for nurses during a visit to Croydon Hospital this morning.

Watch the moment

[147lothian]

I just saw Dim Lizzy's farewell speech for the first time. She was in top form, quoting Seneca whilst not being able to pronounce his name :greengrin:greengrin



https://www.youtube/watch?v=alh7XJVxCAY

[JimBHibees]

It also fails to mention that Sunak was the journalist's best man

Important bit of context. Wow

[Keith_M]

Important bit of context. Wow


We are currently ruled by an evil and selfish cabal of Big Business, the Media they mostly own and the Politicians that are in their pockets.... or in Sunak's case, married to their daughter.

But hey-ho, the people that demand the right to vote Tory? Then carry on as, it's your democratic right to vote for whoever serves your own personal interest, or keeps a few quid in your pocket*.... regardless of how evil and corrupt they are, and the effect it has on everybody else.



* Disclaimer: There are no guarantees that 'few quid' will stay in your pocket for very long, as there's always another Bojo or Dim Lizzy just around the corner.

[Hibrandenburg]

A third of Scots approve of the Rwanda policy, a quarter voted tory in the last election. Independence won't get rid of that. This othering of people is bad. I want Independence to get rid of the flawed corrupt Westminster system. I don't want it because Scots are better or doesn't have racists

It won't get rid of those wanting these kind of inhumane policies towards refugees but it will get rid of the policies.

[Stairway 2 7]

It won't get rid of those wanting these kind of inhumane policies towards refugees but it will get rid of the policies.

That's why I said I want independence, fptp helps nut jobs prevail. Westminster is a cesspit that we need shot off

[Stairway 2 7]

We are currently ruled by an evil and selfish cabal of Big Business, the Media they mostly own and the Politicians that are in their pockets.... or in Sunak's case, married to their daughter.

But hey-ho, the people that demand the right to vote Tory, then carry on as it's your democratic right to vote for whoever serves your own personal interest, or keeps a few quid in your pocket*.... regardless of how evil and corrupt they are, and the effect it has on everybody else.



* Disclaimer: There are no guarantees that 'few quid' will stay in your pocket for very long, as there's always another Bojo or Dim Lizzy just around the corner.

The circle keeps on spinning

Peston
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1h
My colleague Amber de Botton is leaving ITV to be @RishiSunak’s director of communications. She is a brilliant news editor and journalist, and leaves a huge hole at @itvnews

[grunt]

Here's the Scottish Secretary busy looking after the interests of Scotland ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgL_hNDWQAQQTK3?format=jpg&name=small

[Stairway 2 7]

It also fails to mention that Sunak was the journalist's best man

Just read that the wedding was to Allegra Stratton, boris's pr person (sacked). What a horrible Web fleet street to Westminster. They are all friends at Westminster blackford apparently got on really well with Boris and seems friendly with mordaunt

https://mobile.twitter.com/zulfikar_sheikh/status/1584991221721616385

[cabbageandribs1875]

some poor souls just don't understand this :agree:

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[cabbageandribs1875]

change of topic with the patient then total deflection when asked about nurses pay....

Phantom Power on Twitter: "A patient tells Dr Austerity Rishi Sunak to pay NHS staff more then blanks the issue when asked. Sunak’s had several meetings with private US health and social care firms to discuss ‘opportunities’ in the UK. https://t.co/dTIj3RTG85" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/1586037692541927424)


it's a pity very few interviewers actually keep asking for an answer to the freakin question asked

[marinello59]

Just read that the wedding was to Allegra Stratton, boris's pr person (sacked). What a horrible Web fleet street to Westminster. They are all friends at Westminster blackford apparently got on really well with Boris and seems friendly with mordaunt

https://mobile.twitter.com/zulfikar_sheikh/status/1584991221721616385

It’s always good to hear that politicians from opposing parties can still be friends and get on together. Gives me hope for a kinder less divisive political landscape. I’m know, I’m a dreamer. :greengrin

[degenerated]

Just read that the wedding was to Allegra Stratton, boris's pr person (sacked). What a horrible Web fleet street to Westminster. They are all friends at Westminster blackford apparently got on really well with Boris and seems friendly with mordaunt

https://mobile.twitter.com/zulfikar_sheikh/status/1584991221721616385I wouldn't be using a tweet from an unhinged albanaut like Tasmina Ahmed sheikh's husband as incrontavertible evidence that Ian Blackford is pals with Boris and mordaunt. The guy is an absolute fruitloop.

I suspect it's little more than being civil.

[grunt]

So wait. The Foreign Secretary's phone comprehensively hacked, apparently by a hostile foreign power.
And the Prime Minister and Cabinet Secretary agreed to cover it up so it didn't derail her chances of winning the race to be Prime Minister?
Have I misunderstood any of that?

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/29/no-10-alarm-as-boris-johnson-plans-to-attend-cop27-climate-summit?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1667070279

Sunak seems to be making some very school boy errors in his first week.


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[Stairway 2 7]

@sundersays
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Sunday Times says Hunt thinks a formula close to 50% spending cuts, 50% tax increases. Is looking to tighten by £50 billion. A very grim scenario on every front.
https://thetimes.co.uk/article/80de683c-57a1-11ed-a3b8-342870f8e8b9?shareToken=3a42a7c7c72ca09b125c726dbc 25d08d

[Glory Lurker]

So wait. The Foreign Secretary's phone comprehensively hacked, apparently by a hostile foreign power.
And the Prime Minister and Cabinet Secretary agreed to cover it up so it didn't derail her chances of winning the race to be Prime Minister?
Have I misunderstood any of that?

The coverage of it I've read doesn't make much sense but perhaps that's indicative of how huge this might be

[Kato]

So wait. The Foreign Secretary's phone comprehensively hacked, apparently by a hostile foreign power.
And the Prime Minister and Cabinet Secretary agreed to cover it up so it didn't derail her chances of winning the race to be Prime Minister?
Have I misunderstood any of that?Boris covering up Russian interference again. Can't blame Truss as its apparent that the remote for your telly is more sentient, and useful. Johnson insisted on a total news blackout which could only have been a section D.

Looking like Johnson will be at COP27. You wonder why he wants to mingle with so many foreigners as he certainly didn't like having them here, bars the Russians of course.

Something highly shady going on here. When things were strained between the Russians and the in the 20th century the most useful traitors were all toffs. History tends to repeat itself and all that.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221030/d0e25fb6a6ae632323e4c37ce7e29947.jpg
If you have to say it…..


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[OldEast]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221030/d0e25fb6a6ae632323e4c37ce7e29947.jpg
If you have to say it…..


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You're utterly pathetic wee Dougie. NS swats you away like an annoying midge. Long may you stay in the job.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Detestable Tory part 23142187429183 Tory peer apparently misled watchdog investigating his alleged misconduct | House of Lords | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/30/tory-peer-apparently-misled-watchdog-investigating-his-alleged-misconduct)



should get a fine just for his name alone: Charles Henry John Benedict Crofton Chetwynd Chetwynd-Talbot :agree:

[grunt]

should get a fine just for his name alone: Charles Henry John Benedict Crofton Chetwynd Chetwynd-Talbot :agree:
Monty Python Election Night special.

[Hibbyradge]

Monty Python Election Night special.

:top marks

Ftang Ftang

[gbhibby]

Monty Python Election Night special.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_Night_Special#Candidates_and_their_vote_t otals
Some good tory names there


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[cabbageandribs1875]

Detestable Tory part : 23142187429184 Ex-Tory East Dunbartonshire council leader Andrew Polson charged over 'electoral fraud' | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/23088770.ex-tory-east-dunbartonshire-council-leader-andrew-polson-charged-electoral-fraud/)
5 hrs ago


THE Conservative (https://www.thenational.scot/politics/tories/) former leader of East Dunbartonshire council has been charged with alleged electoral offences, police have confirmed.
Andrew Polson co-led the council with LibDem councillor Vaughan Moody from 2018 to 2022, taking over after an SNP (https://www.thenational.scot/politics/snp/) minority administration collapsed in 2012.
Police Scotland have confirmed he and his wife Aileen Polson were arrested and charged with offences under the Representation of the People Act 1983 earlier this month.

[Stairway 2 7]

Brilliant. The daily mail quote a parody Micheal take account

https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelTakeMP/status/1586844713373646854

[Mon Dieu4]

So over a month span it turns out that Braverman sent 6 emails to her personal email account, if I did that in my work I'd be gone

[JimBHibees]

We are currently ruled by an evil and selfish cabal of Big Business, the Media they mostly own and the Politicians that are in their pockets.... or in Sunak's case, married to their daughter.

But hey-ho, the people that demand the right to vote Tory, then carry on as it's your democratic right to vote for whoever serves your own personal interest, or keeps a few quid in your pocket*.... regardless of how evil and corrupt they are, and the effect it has on everybody else.



* Disclaimer: There are no guarantees that 'few quid' will stay in your pocket for very long, as there's always another Bojo or Dim Lizzy just around the corner.

Absolutely the case

[Hiber-nation]

So over a month span it turns out that Braverman sent 6 emails to her personal email account, if I did that in my work I'd be gone

She'll be gone very soon I'd imagine.

Astonishing decision by Sunak to appoint her.

[cabbageandribs1875]

:greengrin

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[JimBHibees]

:greengrin

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:faf::faf:

[Bostonhibby]

:greengrin

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I'm doubting that, it implies she knew how to work a phone....

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Detestable Tory Part: 23142187429185 Former Jacob Rees-Mogg business partner SACKED as minister after just 26 days | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/23090508.former-jacob-rees-mogg-business-partner-sacked-minister-just-26-days/?ref=ebbn)

sacked after 26 days but will pick up 3 months severance AND of course the peerage he was given

[cabbageandribs1875]

[emoji23][emoji23]

I'm doubting that, it implies she knew how to work a phone....

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i'll need to try find that PR photo she used of her using her office phone, upside down

[Bostonhibby]

i'll need to try find that PR photo she used of her using her office phone, upside down[emoji23]

Apparently it's standard practice, if you use it upside down all the russian spies/Bozo's chums listening in fall out and she could then fire at them with that tank she comandeered for photos opportunities

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[grunt]

i'll need to try find that PR photo she used of her using her office phone, upside downhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgUNAJ6XkAEX0Rp?format=jpg&name=900x900

[cabbageandribs1875]

[emoji23]

Apparently it's standard practice, if you use it upside down all the russian spies/Bozo's chums listening in fall out and she could then fire at them with that tank she comandeered for photos opportunities

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgUNAJ6XkAEX0Rp?format=jpg&name=900x900

lol, that's the one

[cabbageandribs1875]

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[Ozyhibby]

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Our UK govt. [emoji35]


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[Renfrew_Hibby]

Our UK govt. [emoji35]


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2 more years of these ****s.

[cabbageandribs1875]

oh my giddy aunt, shirly not :shocked:

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Our UK govt. [emoji35]


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Cruella says it's 'an invasion'


Suella Braverman brands Channel crossings 'an invasion' of England in 'disgusting' comments | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/23091437.suella-braverman-brands-channel-crossings-an-invasion-england-disgusting-comments/?ref=ebbn)

[Jones28]

Cruella says it's 'an invasion'


Suella Braverman brands Channel crossings 'an invasion' of England in 'disgusting' comments | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/23091437.suella-braverman-brands-channel-crossings-an-invasion-england-disgusting-comments/?ref=ebbn)

She really is a contemptible individual. Playing to the racist base and trying to make that kind of language mainstream.

I remember a clip of Akala (rapper, author, poet, all round good guy) talking about the comments Katie Hopkins made about gun boats in the channel and how alien language like that seemed, and now we have an actual government minister using the same language. Just bizarre.

[wookie70]

2 more years of these ****s. And that may be the best case scenario

[Kato]

She really is a contemptible individual. Playing to the racist base and trying to make that kind of language mainstream.

I remember a clip of Akala (rapper, author, poet, all round good guy) talking about the comments Katie Hopkins made about gun boats in the channel and how alien language like that seemed, and now we have an actual government minister using the same language. Just bizarre."Migrant Crisis" being hauled out as a smokescreen for their own incompetence/criminality.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Deary me. The media have been absolutely full blown pr mode for the tories the last 7 days . Absolute ridiculous, this is basically the same cabinet rejigged that fd the country

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/30/sunak-tories-labour-repair-economy-voters-new-poll

Rishi Sunak and the Conservatives have overturned Labour’s lead in terms of who voters trust most to manage the economy, a new poll for the Observer has revealed.

The new prime minister is currently drawing up tax rises and spending cuts designed to fill a £40bn fiscal hole left by Liz Truss’s disastrous time in Downing Street, with warnings that any significant attempt to cut Whitehall budgets will lead to huge pressure on public services. It comes with new analysis revealing that freezing public service spending would save £20bn but would also lead to a return to the austerity of the 2010s.

[Stairway 2 7]

Horrible debate this really vile stuff.

@AdamBienkov
"I don't wake up in the day worrying about the welfare of people who have illegally entered our country," says Conservative MP Tom Hunt

paulwaugh
·
Braverman signally refuses to answer joanna Cherry's question about the legal grounds of her decision to keep people detained for longer than 24 hours

"We are aware of some cases of diphtheria at Manston but there are good medical facilities" Braverman

[Scorrie]

Horrible debate this really vile stuff.

@AdamBienkov
"I don't wake up in the day worrying about the welfare of people who have illegally entered our country," says Conservative MP Tom Hunt

paulwaugh
·
Braverman signally refuses to answer joanna Cherry's question about the legal grounds of her decision to keep people detained for longer than 24 hours

"We are aware of some cases of diphtheria at Manston but there are good medical facilities" Braverman

Tom Hunt. Rhyming slang. But this rhetoric appeals to the little englander including dickheads who firebombed the asylum centre in Kent today

[Kato]

....would also lead to a return to the austerity of the 2010s.

Return. Has there been any respite on cutting spending? Seems like they are just continuing after the short break for Covid.



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[He's here!]

Tom Hunt. Rhyming slang. But this rhetoric appeals to the little englander including dickheads who firebombed the asylum centre in Kent today

That sounded like a horrible incident, but hopefully just a lone nutter. Pales in comparison to what happened to migrants at the Spanish border:

How Spain looked on as dozens were crushed to death at its border (bbc.co.uk) (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/z8i55dsu8w/spain-morocco-border)

[Jones28]

That sounded like a horrible incident, but hopefully just a lone nutter. Pales in comparison to what happened to migrants at the Spanish border:

How Spain looked on as dozens were crushed to death at its border (bbc.co.uk) (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/z8i55dsu8w/spain-morocco-border)

That’s absolutely terrifying. Those poor people.

[ElginHibbie]

Senior Home Office source says Home Sec refused to sign off on hotel bookings for migrants at Manston last week “because they were in Tory areas”

Got to keep the racist vote if they've got any chance of not being destroyed in next election I guess

https://twitter.com/charlotterlynch/status/1587346765107322882?s=20

[Moulin Yarns]

Senior Home Office source says Home Sec refused to sign off on hotel bookings for migrants at Manston last week “because they were in Tory areas”

Got to keep the racist vote if they've got any chance of not being destroyed in next election I guess

https://twitter.com/charlotterlynch/status/1587346765107322882?s=20

Surely putting them in hotels in tory areas would strengthen the racist vote?

[ElginHibbie]

Surely putting them in hotels in tory areas would strengthen the racist vote?

"Hotels too good for them, should be sent back to France on rubber dinghies"

[grunt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fgdy_AAXgAE10q6?format=jpg&name=large

[Hibbyradge]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fgdy_AAXgAE10q6?format=jpg&name=large

:applause:

[Santa Cruz]

Matt Hancock joins this year's series of I'm a Z'leb. No words.

[Kato]

Matt Hancock joins this year's series of I'm a Z'leb. No words.Who celebrates him?

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[Just Alf]

Matt Hancock joins this year's series of I'm a Z'leb. No words...... suspended as a Tory MP

[Santa Cruz]

Who celebrates him?

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I've not watched this for years. If it's the same format, I suspect he will have huge support from the viewing public who actually waste money voting for people to eat live creatures and all the other really boring stuff. Not going to lie, will watch this year. Want to know why a member of the Royal Family needs this platform? (apologies realise my last point is for another thread)

[Moulin Yarns]

Andy Drummond, deputy chairman of the West Suffolk Conservative Association, said he was looking forward to seeing Mr Hancock "eating a kangaroo's *****".

[stu in nottingham]

Who celebrates him?

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His local pub landlord.

[Kato]

His local pub landlord.hurrah!

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[OldEast]

Murdering ******* being watched by on average 8-9 million viewers, many of whom waste hard earned cash on pointless phone calls to boost the profits of ITV.
Britain in a nutshell. ****ing pathetic!

[Paulie Walnuts]

The fact an elected member of parliament thinks it’s suitable for him to **** off to a jungle whilst the country is in this mess leaving his constituency behind says it all about the Conservative Party right now.

Shocking.

[overdrive]

Was he hoping the Tories wouldn’t suspend him in the same way Labour didn’t suspend Kezia Dugdale when she did it?

Surely, he must have realised there would be a backlash against him for abandoning his constituents like there was for Dugdale.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

She really is a contemptible individual. Playing to the racist base and trying to make that kind of language mainstream.

I remember a clip of Akala (rapper, author, poet, all round good guy) talking about the comments Katie Hopkins made about gun boats in the channel and how alien language like that seemed, and now we have an actual government minister using the same language. Just bizarre.


She really is an extremely dangerous politician. I had wondered if Sunak had played a blinder by setting her up as the Alf Garnett of the Tory Party, but her wicked and truly cruel ideas seem to be getting traction. No doubt the Daily Express will be loving this.

[Kato]

Was he hoping the Tories wouldn’t suspend him in the same way Labour didn’t suspend Kezia Dugdale when she did it?

Surely, he must have realised there would be a backlash against him for abandoning his constituents like there was for Dugdale.He's on his way out anyway as measured by the latest PM dingying him when others were getting back slapped.

Trying to lilypad into mainstream celebrity now that his main grift is narrowing.

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[Bostonhibby]

He's on his way out anyway as measured by the latest PM dingying him when others were getting back slapped.

Trying to lilypad into mainstream celebrity now that his main grift is narrowing.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkYep, at this rate the pub landlord will be awarding contracts to wee Matt. How the mighty have fallen.

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[SHODAN]

I see to deflect from the latest round of social murder the government have gone back to their deflection tactic of immigration. After the Romanians, and the Poles before them, their media pals and attack dog Farage are now putting out articles denigrating Albanians. Woe betide if a bigot parrots any of this in front of my Greek-Albanian fiancee.

[Stairway 2 7]

400k Hancock reportedly getting, ridiculous

[Glory Lurker]

Got to feel for the maggots, cockroaches, anuses etc

[weecounty hibby]

Got to feel for the maggots, cockroaches, anuses etc

Or the Conservative and Unionist party as they are more commonly known

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/312420878_452879206949309_1162878110909624010_n.jp g?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=0HkVt_RugyYAX-EelTh&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfCxuNH5IiWvEIZ6lGnG-YkxkpF_hpMVCmxd7A7BtMJ25Q&oe=63671B01

[hibsbollah]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/312420878_452879206949309_1162878110909624010_n.jp g?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=0HkVt_RugyYAX-EelTh&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfCxuNH5IiWvEIZ6lGnG-YkxkpF_hpMVCmxd7A7BtMJ25Q&oe=63671B01

This basically sums them up. Absolutely tragic what UK politics has become. The establishment ‘one nation Tories’ that Johnson purged are about as relevant to politics as the waspy Jefferson republicans are in US politics.

[JimBHibees]

This basically sums them up. Absolutely tragic what UK politics has become. The establishment ‘one nation Tories’ that Johnson purged are about as relevant to politics as the waspy Jefferson republicans are in US politics.

Yep the politics here has never been worse and is indeed a disgrace. Get us out of this madhouse please

[Keith_M]

Detestable Tory part 23142187429183 Tory peer apparently misled watchdog investigating his alleged misconduct | House of Lords | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/30/tory-peer-apparently-misled-watchdog-investigating-his-alleged-misconduct)



should get a fine just for his name alone: Charles Henry John Benedict Crofton Chetwynd Chetwynd-Talbot :agree:


Surely this name is a wind-up?

"Harry Rich, the registrar of consultant lobbyists".

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.ft.com/content/acbddf57-17d3-4aed-bfcd-34162da18d95

Jeremy Hunt’s options for saving £50bn via
@FT
with ⁦
@GeorgeWParker
⁩

Including cool graphic allowing you to play fantasy chancellor

[hibsbollah]

https://www.ft.com/content/acbddf57-17d3-4aed-bfcd-34162da18d95

Jeremy Hunt’s options for saving £50bn via
@FT
with ⁦
@GeorgeWParker
⁩

Including cool graphic allowing you to play fantasy chancellor

Fantasy Chancellor.
I think you may be onto something here.
There's definitely global franchising possibilities as well.

'Strictly Come Chance-ing'
'WTF Do you Think You Are'
'Sanity Get Me Out of Here'

I mean at least we get to vote for the ****ers this way?

[Stairway 2 7]

Fantasy Chancellor.
I think you may be onto something here.
There's definitely global franchising possibilities as well.

'Strictly Come Chance-ing'
'WTF Do you Think You Are'
'Sanity Get Me Out of Here'

I mean at least we get to vote for the ****ers this way?

I was just copying the blurb. To be honest it's a crap wee game that let's you be basically a tory style Chancellor. No option to tax the rich, just different levels of torieness

[danhibees1875]

Murdering ******* being watched by on average 8-9 million viewers, many of whom waste hard earned cash on pointless phone calls to boost the profits of ITV.
Britain in a nutshell. ****ing pathetic!

The cyclone is pretty cool though. :greengrin

[Stairway 2 7]

Boris and even Truss were far left of Sunak on these issues. Its pitiful and financially stupid, we need immigration

@PippaCrerar
·
7m
Rishi Sunak says he’s on “same page” as Suella Braverman on cutting immigration.

Reminder: the Home Secretary revived a previous Tory pledge to reduce net migration to tens of thousands of people.

She also said it was her “dream” to see a flight take asylum seekers to Rwanda

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

This basically sums them up. Absolutely tragic what UK politics has become. The establishment ‘one nation Tories’ that Johnson purged are about as relevant to politics as the waspy Jefferson republicans are in US politics.

Without being overly alarmist, I think that Braverman's comments are as close to a " Rivers of Blood" moment in the modern age.

[Smartie]

Without being overly alarmist, I think that Braverman's comments are as close to a " Rivers of Blood" moment in the modern age.

I agree.

Without commenting on the ins and outs of the policy, her use of language is vile.

It doesn't take much to join the dots from certain phrases appearing in the right wing press and 66 year old men choosing to fire bomb detention centres and kill themselves.

In other times it would be considered disgraceful but it just sort of blends into all the other sorts of disgrace we've had from this government.

[hibsbollah]

Without being overly alarmist, I think that Braverman's comments are as close to a " Rivers of Blood" moment in the modern age.

I agree.

I want to hear some positive reinforcement of the GOOD that immigration has done to and for the U.K. Even just as balance to the ferocious tide of brutal propaganda we are getting every ****ing day. Because this is ending badly.

[grunt]

https://inews.co.uk/news/migrants-manston-asylum-centre-london-train-station-without-assistance-1949120


Migrants from the Manston processing centre were dropped off at London’s Victoria station and left without assistance for several hours, i can reveal.

[grunt]

https://fullfact.org/economy/rishi-sunak-house-building-pmq/

Sunak lied last week at PMQs. Wonder if he'll be made to correct the record.
He's certainly living up to the continuity Johnson role.

[grunt]

Oh and another thing. At PMQs today Sunak said that the Tories had "got Brexit done" and "ended freedom of movement", to cheers from the Tory benches. *******s.

[Stairway 2 7]

Oh and another thing. At PMQs today Sunak said that the Tories had "got Brexit done" and "ended freedom of movement", to cheers from the Tory benches. *******s.

Didn't mention Europeans have been replaced by non.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Freystrop/status/1587523124127481856
@Freystrop
Replying to
@terrychristian
Interesting that net migration from non-EU countries has rocketed since Brexit (replacing EU workers). When will politicians admit that we need migrants

[bigwheel]

Oh and another thing. At PMQs today Sunak said that the Tories had "got Brexit done" and "ended freedom of movement", to cheers from the Tory benches. *******s.

They seem to rejoice in that don’t they ..Brexiteers seem to ignore that they’ve also ceased free movement and ability to live and work for British people in 27 countries too

[Ozyhibby]

They seem to rejoice in that don’t they ..Brexiteers seem to ignore that they’ve also ceased free movement and ability to live and work for British people in 27 countries too

I’m not long back from Tenerife and they are also having Brexit problems. They can’t get people from the UK over to work in bars, clubs, restaurants etc. They have started advertising in Ireland instead. Also, there is a real shortage of entertainers as well. Just about every bar was saying the same thing.


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[ronaldo7]

Oh and another thing. At PMQs today Sunak said that the Tories had "got Brexit done" and "ended freedom of movement", to cheers from the Tory benches. *******s.

Ably supported by the Labour party who voted for it as well.

They want to make Brexit work. They won't.

[cabbageandribs1875]

attention seeker :agree: Liz Truss’s rider: independent coffee, fresh sandwiches and chilled wine | Liz Truss | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/30/liz-truss-rider-out-of-the-blue-book)

Former aides recalled how Truss would prioritise her social media posts over briefings during foreign trips. The book also details the lengths Truss would go to set up photo shoots, including one at the Shibuya pedestrian crossing in Tokyo.

[Kato]

attention seeker :agree: Liz Truss’s rider: independent coffee, fresh sandwiches and chilled wine | Liz Truss | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/30/liz-truss-rider-out-of-the-blue-book)

Former aides recalled how Truss would prioritise her social media posts over briefings during foreign trips. The book also details the lengths Truss would go to set up photo shoots, including one at the Shibuya pedestrian crossing in Tokyo.It's like Violet Elizabeth Bott grew up to be Prime Minister.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/23096041.talk-concentration-camps-fascism-britain-sink-low/

The UK today.[emoji35]


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[grunt]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/23096041.talk-concentration-camps-fascism-britain-sink-low/

The UK today.[emoji35]Good article, but it won't be heeded. With Tory and Labour both condemning migrants there's no hope for England. Time for us to leave.


It may be uncomfortable to discuss, but in light of what’s happening we can no longer pretend there’s no difference in so-called Scottish and English values, at least as far as the treatment of refugees is concerned. What’s happening in England isn’t just morally disgraceful, it’s truly frightening. We’re clearly watching the collapse of decency within a government, and the party in power embarking on a journey that leads god knows where.

[grunt]

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/tory-mp-andrew-bridgen-suspended-paid-lobbying


The Commons standards committee has recommended that Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen be suspended for five sitting days over his “careless and cavalier attitude" towards rules on lobbying.

The damning report found that Bridgen had failed to declare his relevant interests in the companies Mere Plantations “during eight emails to ministers and in five meetings with ministers or public officials”, despite having "received registrable financial benefits" from the company.

"Mr Bridgen has breached the rules of the House on registration, declaration and paid lobbying on multiple occasions and in multiple ways," the report found."Each of these breaches could have led us to recommend a suspension from the service of the House. "Mr Bridgen has demonstrated a very cavalier attitude to the House’s rules on registration and declaration of interests, including repeatedly saying that he did not check his own entry in the register."

[McSwanky]

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/tory-mp-andrew-bridgen-suspended-paid-lobbying

5 days :rolleyes:

[Kato]

5 days :rolleyes:For taking bribes and undermining what an MPs job should be.

5 days? He should be chucked out.

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[AgentDaleCooper]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/23096041.talk-concentration-camps-fascism-britain-sink-low/

The UK today.[emoji35]


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sickening. if such camps were to be found in Russian occupied Ukraine (if they haven't been already), we'd be quite rightly talking about crimes against humanity.

[He's here!]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/23096041.talk-concentration-camps-fascism-britain-sink-low/

The UK today.[emoji35]


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Much of that is hyperbole from Mackay, who doesn't appear to have been anywhere near Manston - and nor do those he has spoken to directly. To be fair, given the state of Scottish newspapers, the Herald may well have refused to sign off on his travel expenses, but it's a lazy piece, typical of journalists who attempt to convey expertise from afar in relation to a situation they know little more about than a well-informed punter.

That's not meant as a defence of the government because something has clearly gone horribly awry there, but is it so surprising that things have slipped out of control when you bear in mind the speed at which migrant numbers crossing the Channel are increasing? We've gone from circa 8,000 in 2020 to 40,000 so far this year. The weekend before last over 1000 crossed in one day. I guess the surge isn't that surprising when you consider that English is the global language, work is relatively easy to find and the UK grants over 75% of asylum claims compared to an EU average of 34%.

One aspect of this I'm struggling to understand is why so many young Albanian men appear to be making the journey (1-2 per cent of the adult male population of the country apparently). Is persecution especially rife there? I thought Albania were currently attempting to join the EU.

[overdrive]

Much of that is hyperbole from Mackay, who doesn't appear to have been anywhere near Manston - and nor do those he has spoken to directly. To be fair, given the state of Scottish newspapers, the Herald may well have refused to sign off on his travel expenses, but it's a lazy piece, typical of journalists who attempt to convey expertise from afar in relation to a situation they know little more about than a well-informed punter.

That's not meant as a defence of the government because something has clearly gone horribly awry there, but is it so surprising that things have slipped out of control when you bear in mind the speed at which migrant numbers crossing the Channel are increasing? We've gone from circa 8,000 in 2020 to 40,000 so far this year. The weekend before last over 1000 crossed in one day. I guess the surge isn't that surprising when you consider that English is the global language, work is relatively easy to find and the UK grants over 75% of asylum claims compared to an EU average of 34%.

One aspect of this I'm struggling to understand is why so many young Albanian men appear to be making the journey (1-2 per cent of the adult male population of the country apparently). Is persecution especially rife there? I thought Albania were currently attempting to join the EU.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-63473022

[Hibbyradge]

40k sounds like a large amount but it would have to reach about 4 million before it made much actual difference to the country, either socially or economically, and at the current rate, that would take 100 years.

The Tories need a bogey man. It used to be the unemployed, it's now asylum seekers.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-11-03/why-the-recession-forecast-is-a-horror-show-for-sunak-and-hunt

We’ll all have to pay the price of this horror show.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

John, from Croydon, suggests putting great white sharks in the channel will stop immigrants crossing LBC caller suggests putting ‘great white sharks’ in Channel to stop migrants crossing (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/lbc-caller-suggests-putting-great-white-sharks-in-channel-to-stop-migrants-crossing/ar-AA13HEi8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4bccae5e1791420b92140f7bf876d907)

he's all heart eh :hilarious i suppose when the sharks run out of immigrants to feast on they would then start eating the raw sewage

[Stairway 2 7]

Rents going up when they are unplayable for many, although heart doesn't bleed for buy to let

https://mobile.twitter.com/thetimes/status/1588312845451763714

thetimes
🏠 House prices are set to fall by an average of 10% next year. Hardest hit will be first-time buyers and buy-to-let landlords, who will struggle to manage mortgages and the higher cost of living, potentially pushing rents up by 6.5%

[Stairway 2 7]

Not just our mps that are vile

https://www.dw.com/en/far-right-mps-go-back-to-africa-outburst-causes-uproar-in-france/a-63644107

French far-right MP's 'go back to Africa' cry causes uproar
8 hours ago8 hours ago
A far-right MP shouted "go back to Africa!" as a Black lawmaker spoke about stranded migrants. The member of the anti-immigration National Rally party said he was referring to the migrants and not his fellow MP

[Jones28]

John, from Croydon, suggests putting great white sharks in the channel will stop immigrants crossing LBC caller suggests putting ‘great white sharks’ in Channel to stop migrants crossing (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/lbc-caller-suggests-putting-great-white-sharks-in-channel-to-stop-migrants-crossing/ar-AA13HEi8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4bccae5e1791420b92140f7bf876d907)


he's all heart eh :hilarious i suppose when the sharks run out of immigrants to feast on they would then start eating the raw sewage

I heard that on the radio. I don’t know what has more **** in it, that guys brain or the English Channel.

[wookie70]

I heard that on the radio. I don’t know what has more **** in it, that guys brain or the English Channel. The women that called in talking about asylum seekers getting cars wasn't much better. It is understandable that citizens need someone to blame and are hitting out but how thick can you be to look one rung up the ladder for a target.

[hibsbollah]

Not just our mps that are vile

https://www.dw.com/en/far-right-mps-go-back-to-africa-outburst-causes-uproar-in-france/a-63644107

French far-right MP's 'go back to Africa' cry causes uproar
8 hours ago8 hours ago
A far-right MP shouted "go back to Africa!" as a Black lawmaker spoke about stranded migrants. The member of the anti-immigration National Rally party said he was referring to the migrants and not his fellow MP

There is a huge furore in France about this, by far the biggest story in the media. Real anger about it, thankfully.

https://www.lemonde.fr/

[NYHibby]

John, from Croydon, suggests putting great white sharks in the channel will stop immigrants crossing LBC caller suggests putting ‘great white sharks’ in Channel to stop migrants crossing (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/lbc-caller-suggests-putting-great-white-sharks-in-channel-to-stop-migrants-crossing/ar-AA13HEi8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4bccae5e1791420b92140f7bf876d907)

he's all heart eh :hilarious i suppose when the sharks run out of immigrants to feast on they would then start eating the raw sewage

I have a friend who worked on buying giant fishing nets for the navy to use in the Channel. The HO eventually dropped the idea

[Stairway 2 7]

There is a huge furore in France about this, by far the biggest story in the media. Real anger about it, thankfully.

https://www.lemonde.fr/

I'm sure there would be huge anger in any European nation if it was said in parliament, disgusting. Hopefully shows them what they are voting for when they vote Le Pen, although sadly I'm sure millions will again

[Bostonhibby]

I heard that on the radio. I don’t know what has more **** in it, that guys brain or the English Channel.Having run sites in Croydon I can tell you I'd rather take my chances with the sharks.....

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[He's here!]

40k sounds like a large amount but it would have to reach about 4 million before it made much actual difference to the country, either socially or economically, and at the current rate, that would take 100 years.


The problem is that the 40k this year have, naturally, been accessing the UK via its closest point to Europe. If they were arriving at various ports around the country then yes, it would dilute the impact of such numbers arriving. That's where I think some allowances can be made for the pressure those trying to implement a workable system are under. How would Scotland cope if, say, Fraserburgh was the nearest UK access point for migrant boats?

[He's here!]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-63473022

Thanks. More here on the Albanian drug gangs driving the numbers:

Channel crossings: Albanian migrants recruited to the UK by gangs - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63488070)

[DaveF]

The problem is that the 40k this year have, naturally, been accessing the UK via its closest point to Europe. If they were arriving at various ports around the country then yes, it would dilute the impact of such numbers arriving. That's where I think some allowances can be made for the pressure those trying to implement a workable system are under. How would Scotland cope if, say, Fraserburgh was the nearest UK access point for migrant boats?

But Fraserburgh isn't, so stop inventing scenarios which are never going to occur. Maybe better focusing on the absolute mess and neglect this govt has shown towards the immigration system.

[Hibbyradge]

The problem is that the 40k this year have, naturally, been accessing the UK via its closest point to Europe. If they were arriving at various ports around the country then yes, it would dilute the impact of such numbers arriving. That's where I think some allowances can be made for the pressure those trying to implement a workable system are under. How would Scotland cope if, say, Fraserburgh was the nearest UK access point for migrant boats?

True, but surely it's cheaper, easier and more humane to disperse people around the UK than sending them to Rwanda?

[Lendo]

To me it kind of feels like we are slowly descending in to the UK portrayed in Children of Men

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/scottories/status/1588464414973657088?s=46&t=d8EMb3FXOsMk5Mx4I_gX2g


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[grunt]

The problem is that the 40k this year have, naturally, been accessing the UK via its closest point to Europe. If they were arriving at various ports around the country then yes, it would dilute the impact of such numbers arriving. That's where I think some allowances can be made for the pressure those trying to implement a workable system are under. How would Scotland cope if, say, Fraserburgh was the nearest UK access point for migrant boats?
It's not as if the English Channel has suddenly appeared. It's just yet another example of the Tory Govt failure to plan for the consequences of it's own stupid policies.

[grunt]

Thanks. More here on the Albanian drug gangs driving the numbers:

Channel crossings: Albanian migrants recruited to the UK by gangs - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63488070)
Rubbish dog-whistle article. The BBC should be ashamed of themselves.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Scots shop owner branded racist after 'foul-smelling asylum seeker' post online (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/scots-shop-owner-branded-racist-after-foul-smelling-asylum-seeker-post-online/ar-AA13IPSp?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bb24498a44f342b5ac92fa585ee9771a)


detestable Tory part : 24385238840823458238539845357 :agree:


"I feel two things; a deep anger that these people feel it is their 'right' to be in this country and secondly that the Home Office, the British Government, the Scottish Government, the Conservative Party (and I have been a Conservative all my life) won't do anything to stop this invasion and Suella Braverman is right it is an invasion!"


gosh, ya don't say


we can only hope wee Ted is ok :agree:

[Kato]

How would Scotland cope if, say, Fraserburgh was the nearest UK access point for migrant boats?

Interesting straw man if you flesh it out.

If Scotland were independent and say world events/climate change,
/war/criminality led to 40,000 thousand people arriving at Fraserburgh. I would hope whatever govt was in power would listen to their civil service, listen to their security services and have agreements with neighbouring countries to assist in whatever was required.I'm not claiming that's would happen but that seems to be the most logical way to prepare from what I've read.


David Cameron predicted 6 years ago in that if we pulled out of our agreements with the EU there would be 50,000 people arriving at our shores in such a manner. So this version of the govt who have been in power for 12 years have had plenty warning.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12145781/David-Cameron-warns-of-migrant-camps-in-southern-England-if-Brexit-vote.html



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[Kato]

Rubbish dog-whistle article. The BBC should be ashamed of themselves."Towns are empty". Seems a bit made up.

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[McD]

Scots shop owner branded racist after 'foul-smelling asylum seeker' post online (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/scots-shop-owner-branded-racist-after-foul-smelling-asylum-seeker-post-online/ar-AA13IPSp?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bb24498a44f342b5ac92fa585ee9771a)


detestable Tory part : 24385238840823458238539845357 :agree:


"I feel two things; a deep anger that these people feel it is their 'right' to be in this country and secondly that the Home Office, the British Government, the Scottish Government, the Conservative Party (and I have been a Conservative all my life) won't do anything to stop this invasion and Suella Braverman is right it is an invasion!"


gosh, ya don't say


we can only hope wee Ted is ok :agree:







the shop owners version of it seems like she’s overreacting based purely on racist assumptions

man walks into shop. Shop owner’s dog starts growling and barking at him. Man gets apprehensive and picks up a wicker chair to keep the dog at bay. Shop owner started screaming at the man to leave, despite it being her dog that’s the apparent aggressor. Man leaves.

yet she doubles down saying ‘no woman should have to go through this’ - go through what exactly? Her description and the police investigation confirm nothing criminal or threatening occurred. Seems like the only one who went through anything was the guy who stepped into her shop.

[Bostonhibby]

the shop owners version of it seems like she’s overreacting based purely on racist assumptions

man walks into shop. Shop owner’s dog starts growling and barking at him. Man gets apprehensive and picks up a wicker chair to keep the dog at bay. Shop owner started screaming at the man to leave, despite it being her dog that’s the apparent aggressor. Man leaves.

yet she doubles down saying ‘no woman should have to go through this’ - go through what exactly? Her description and the police investigation confirm nothing criminal or threatening occurred. Seems like the only one who went through anything was the guy who stepped into her shop.Sounds like no shop owner should have to tolerate customers coming into her shop unless her dog decides not to have a go at the customer first?

The rest is assumptions based on race. Not a shop to go into, who wants to negotiate an unpredictable animal to make a purchase?



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[Hibrandenburg]

Scots shop owner branded racist after 'foul-smelling asylum seeker' post online (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/scots-shop-owner-branded-racist-after-foul-smelling-asylum-seeker-post-online/ar-AA13IPSp?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bb24498a44f342b5ac92fa585ee9771a)


detestable Tory part : 24385238840823458238539845357 :agree:


"I feel two things; a deep anger that these people feel it is their 'right' to be in this country and secondly that the Home Office, the British Government, the Scottish Government, the Conservative Party (and I have been a Conservative all my life) won't do anything to stop this invasion and Suella Braverman is right it is an invasion!"


gosh, ya don't say


we can only hope wee Ted is ok :agree:






This highlights just how ****ing stupid these people are and how easy it is for this odious government via the right wing press to radicalise these dimwits.

[Stairway 2 7]

Boris got 100 votes. The arse hole is going to try and mount a return. Probably wait until rishi gets to destroy us all first then try and come back, lucky us

https://archive.ph/Fxddx

[Keith_M]

John, from Croydon, suggests putting great white sharks in the channel will stop immigrants crossing LBC caller suggests putting ‘great white sharks’ in Channel to stop migrants crossing (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/lbc-caller-suggests-putting-great-white-sharks-in-channel-to-stop-migrants-crossing/ar-AA13HEi8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4bccae5e1791420b92140f7bf876d907)

he's all heart eh :hilarious i suppose when the sharks run out of immigrants to feast on they would then start eating the raw sewage


Was it maybe this guy?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh7bYNAHXxw

[Stairway 2 7]

Pretty interesting. Young Albanians are certainly the uks gain, we should put landing strips for the boats

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-albanians-come-to-britain/

Why Albanians come to Britain

[grunt]

Boris got 100 votes.Not sure whether to believe this or not tbh.

[Stairway 2 7]

Not sure whether to believe this or not tbh.

Within his roll i don't think Brady would be able to say if not.

[grunt]

Within his roll i don't think Brady would be able to say if not.Yes, that's what is causing my uncertainty. I can't for the life of me think why Johnson wouldn't have nominated himself if he had the numbers.

[Stairway 2 7]

Yes, that's what is causing my uncertainty. I can't for the life of me think why Johnson wouldn't have nominated himself if he had the numbers.

Because he realised his numbers were rubbish. He'd maybe win the members vote, but about double of mps wanted Sunak. He'd barely be able to construct a government. Brady would be sacked by mps if he was found lying about this

Sunak has an impossible task over the next 2 years, austerity and recession.

[Hibbyradge]

Yes, that's what is causing my uncertainty. I can't for the life of me think why Johnson wouldn't have nominated himself if he had the numbers.

Johnson is fairly astute politically even if he is a buffoon. He waited until the last minute to see how the wind was blowing within the Tory party before declaring his support for Brexit. He also kept it late so Cameron had no time to mobilise against him.

Similarly this time, he knows the next 2 years are going to be hellish economically and he'd likely lose in 2024. He also knows that the same MPs who sacked him in the summer, are still against him so internal chaos was almost guaranteed.

Much better to step aside, let someone else do the dirty work and be blamed for it, then come back as the knight in shining armour to save the Party and the country in 2028.

[grunt]

Johnson is fairly astute politically even if he is a buffoon. He waited until the last minute to see how the wind was blowing within the Tory party before declaring his support for Brexit. He also kept it late so Cameron had no time to mobilise against him.

Similarly this time, he knows the next 2 years are going to be hellish economically and he'd likely lose in 2024. He also knows that the same MPs who sacked him in the summer, are still against him so internal chaos was almost guaranteed.

Much better to step aside, let someone else do the dirty work and be blamed for it, then come back as the knight in shining armour to save the Party and the country in 2028.
He must have known all that before cutting his holiday short and flying home. So why did he put his name in the hat?

[Hibbyradge]

He must have known all that before cutting his holiday short and flying home. So why did he put his name in the hat?

Ego?

I just don't see Brady lying about the number of MPs. He'd just have kept quiet if it wasn't true.

Or maybe he was offered a different job...

[grunt]

I just don't see Brady lying about the number of MPs. He'd just have kept quiet if it wasn't true.


:crazy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgzbmEWXgAEO9k4?format=jpg&name=large

[OldEast]

:crazy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgzbmEWXgAEO9k4?format=jpg&name=large

He might have had the numbers but I bet there were far more totally against him standing and made it clear he wouldn't have their support if he carried on and became pm again. Self sacrifice my ****ing arse!

[Stairway 2 7]

He might have had the numbers but I bet there were far more totally against him standing and made it clear he wouldn't have their support if he carried on and became pm again. Self sacrifice my ****ing arse!

I think that is pretty obvious by the fact he just got over 100 and Sunak got almost double. He'd have been out within months with that opposition, that's if he would be able to make a workable government

[Jack]

:crazy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgzbmEWXgAEO9k4?format=jpg&name=large

Is that from the Uxbridge and South Ruislip tory Gazette?

[grunt]

Is that from the Uxbridge and South Ruislip tory Gazette?The D**** M*** apparently.

[Bostonhibby]

Does he regret his dubious conduct, again, or regret getting caught?

BBC News - Sunak aware Gavin Williamson faced bullying claim, says MP
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63530070

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[grunt]

I can't for the life of me think why Johnson wouldn't have nominated himself if he had the numbers.Noow I understand ...


Boris Johnson ‘quit PM race over risk to £10m earnings’, sources say

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/06/boris-johnson-quit-pm-race-over-risk-to-10m-earnings-sources-say?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[Stairway 2 7]

Noow I understand ...



https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/06/boris-johnson-quit-pm-race-over-risk-to-10m-earnings-sources-say?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Unfortunately he's going to become very rich. I can't for the life of me understand why yanks will pay millions to listen to ex pms, mental

[Hibbyradge]

Unfortunately he's going to become very rich. I can't for the life of me understand why yanks will pay millions to listen to ex pms, mental

Become?

[Kato]

Become?He was reportedly skint a while back.

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[Hibbyradge]

He was reportedly skint a while back.

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I didn't know that, obviously.

[Stairway 2 7]

I didn't know that, obviously.

Getting donors to pay his extortionate wall paper bill. A nitwit with his finances

[Stairway 2 7]

Uk overtaken America with more foreign born nationals, which I was surprised about. London has to be one of Europe's biggest melting pots. But western nations need more badly

@b_judah
·
18m
You can't actually talk about Anglo-societies not as immigrant societies anymore.

Foreign born population share:

🇦🇺 29.1%
🇳🇿 27.4%
🇨🇦 23%
🇬🇧 16.8%
🇺🇸 14.3%

Remarkable that the official UK foreign born population in 2022 is 16.8% compared to 14.3% in United States. Britain's percentage foreign born is also higher than the US at its peak of 14.8% in 1890 and 14.7% in 1910 at the height of the great transatlantic European migration

The UK foreign born population was 4.2% in 1951 and 8.3% as recently as 2001

[grunt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fg38gq6X0AEnug6?format=jpg&name=large

[grunt]

Britain's railways:


The recent history of Britain’s trains is much the same as that of the country itself: a hare-brained plunge into privatisation and crony capitalism, followed by endless underinvestment, chronic short-termism and that achingly familiar approach to industrial relations that regards partnership and consensus as suited only to wimps. Worse still, as with so many of the constituent parts of everyday British life, the pandemic delivered a shock from which the system shows no signs of any convincing recovery. The World Economic Forum now places the UK 29th in its global rankings (https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/railroad_quality/) for the quality of its railways, in between Kazakhstan and India. Compared with the rest of western Europe, what we now have to put up with is not just unacceptable. It is not normal.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/nov/06/britain-train-service-renationalisation-delay?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[SHODAN]

I'm guessing when I eventually become a Dad my kids will count as "migrants" flooding the country and taking away jobs/benefits etc etc by the Mail, Tories, Starmer and bigots on this thread because their Mum is an Albanian NHS worker?

I'm part-Polish too so that counts double. God help them!

[Hibbyradge]

I'm guessing when I eventually become a Dad my kids will count as "migrants" flooding the country and taking away jobs/benefits etc etc by the Mail, Tories, Starmer and bigots on this thread because their Mum is an Albanian NHS worker?

I'm part-Polish too so that counts double. God help them!

My dad was Polish so I have a Polish surname. I was once told, in Edinburgh, to **** off back to Russia!

[marinello59]

I'm guessing when I eventually become a Dad my kids will count as "migrants" flooding the country and taking away jobs/benefits etc etc by the Mail, Tories, Starmer and bigots on this thread because their Mum is an Albanian NHS worker?

I'm part-Polish too so that counts double. God help them!

They’ll be fine. The vast majority of people UK wide are decent and welcoming despite any of the ill thought out comments from politicians etc.

[Bostonhibby]

I'm guessing when I eventually become a Dad my kids will count as "migrants" flooding the country and taking away jobs/benefits etc etc by the Mail, Tories, Starmer and bigots on this thread because their Mum is an Albanian NHS worker?

I'm part-Polish too so that counts double. God help them!I'd rather see what you describe as your family in our country than some of the chip on their shoulder, no mark racists who probably dont even know their own ethnic history and may not even be making the sort of positive contributions to life that you all are.

I tend to agree with M59's post above.

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[hibsbollah]

Britain's railways:



https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/nov/06/britain-train-service-renationalisation-delay?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

As a regular train user throughout the U.K., Labours (currently still in place from the 2017 and 19 manifestos) policy of renationalisation of rail stock is probably the last remaining excuse I have for continuing to vote Labour. It’s as important as health housing and education to me.

The current network is laughable compared to ever Western European country.

[Ozyhibby]

As a regular train user throughout the U.K., Labours (currently still in place from the 2017 and 19 manifestos) policy of renationalisation of rail stock is probably the last remaining excuse I have for continuing to vote Labour. It’s as important as health housing and education to me.

The current network is laughable compared to ever Western European country.

Do you honestly believe Labour will do that?


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[hibsbollah]

Do you honestly believe Labour will do that?


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Messages continued to be mixed from Reeves/Starmer but I think a member revolt and a push for unions to decouple from the party will become unstoppable if it doesn’t happen.

[grunt]

Does anyone remember Ronnie Corbett's outsize chair in the Two Ronnies?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fg8tTHoX0AEKBEl?format=jpg&name=large

[degenerated]

Does anyone remember Ronnie Corbett's outsize chair in the Two Ronnies?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fg8tTHoX0AEKBEl?format=jpg&name=largeMore like Dennis Waterman in little Britain. 26279

[grunt]

Conservative MP Lee Anderson says that providing accommodation for people arriving in small boats "leaves a bitter taste in my throat".

He says ministers should "send them straight back the same day".

https://twitter.com/adambienkov/status/1589649934097305602?s=61&t=GTDqRNNx_xTaxfNivNs-jw

[Bostonhibby]

Conservative MP Lee Anderson says that providing accommodation for people arriving in small boats "leaves a bitter taste in my throat".

He says ministers should "send them straight back the same day".

https://twitter.com/adambienkov/status/1589649934097305602?s=61&t=GTDqRNNx_xTaxfNivNs-jwTo be fair hes not just a tad xenophobic [emoji6]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tories-appoint-mp-who-reprimanded-24197996.amp

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[grunt]

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1589656910592081921?s=20&t=tbSj5qT8kNwDuLngHq3xhQ


Conservative MP Sir Edward Leigh says the UK is a "pushover" and says the Government must now "repeal the Human Rights Act, get out of the European Refugee Convention and repeal the Modern Slavery Act so people can be detained when they arrive [and] deported."

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/07/sunak-sinks-new-royal-yacht-plan-in-favour-of-ocean-surveillance-ship


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[wookie70]

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1589656910592081921?s=20&t=tbSj5qT8kNwDuLngHq3xhQ

No need to ask what style of moustache Tories will favour during Movember. I had hoped that the disastrous polls would have made them think again about their continued push to the far right. It appears not as that is the ground most of those in Parliament seem most comfortable on. Hopefully, the electorate will burst this puss filled political pimple once and for all. Unfortunately, I suspect minds are narrowing and hate widening as the flames are fanned by the media and towns and cities become more desolate and citizens lives become harder and more desperate.

[Stairway 2 7]

No need to ask what style of moustache Tories will favour during Movember. I had hoped that the disastrous polls would have made them think again about their continued push to the far right. It appears not as that is the ground most of those in Parliament seem most comfortable on. Hopefully, the electorate will burst this puss filled political pimple once and for all. Unfortunately, I suspect minds are narrowing and hate widening as the flames are fanned by the media and towns and cities become more desolate and citizens lives become harder and more desperate.

Almost every poll and study shows the opposite. Public opinion of immigrants is the best its been in decades and the hate is lowering each year.

The voters the tories are losing in the polls are to the left of the party, its all about finances.

This makes we wonder why they are pushing it so heavily. I guess it's deflection but it won't work as the right of the party will always be on their side. Maybe they also know financially we will be knackered for a couple of years so can't play that card

[Kato]

Almost every poll and study shows the opposite. Public opinion of immigrants is the best its been in decades and the hate is lowering each year.

The voters the tories are losing in the polls are to the left of the party, its all about finances.

This makes we wonder why they are pushing it so heavily. I guess it's deflection but it won't work as the right of the party will always be on their side. Maybe they also know financially we will be knackered for a couple of years so can't play that cardThey've pushed racism as their dogwhistle/distraction policy for a while now. Maybe those easily swayed are bored of that tune. Something else will be along once they twig.

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[Kato]

Almost every poll and study shows the opposite. Public opinion of immigrants is the best its been in decades and the hate is lowering each year.

The voters the tories are losing in the polls are to the left of the party, its all about finances.

This makes we wonder why they are pushing it so heavily. I guess it's deflection but it won't work as the right of the party will always be on their side. Maybe they also know financially we will be knackered for a couple of years so can't play that cardWhat should be noted as well on this is the urging to repeal human rights legislation on the back of their racism. Membership of ECHR is a requirement for the Good Friday agreement. They would do these things given half a chance. Wreckers.

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[Stairway 2 7]

What should be noted as well on this is the urging to repeal human rights legislation on the back of their racism. Membership of ECHR is a requirement for the Good Friday agreement. They would do these things given half a chance. Wreckers.

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Human rights links to their hatred of workers rights rules, which all goes to their main drive which is obviously profit

[cabbageandribs1875]

another Johnson vanity project(let's not kid on it was for the royals) bites the dust Johnson's £200m plan for new royal yacht is axed (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/johnson-s-200m-plan-for-new-royal-yacht-is-axed/ar-AA13PUcR?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a9f30e469fd447428752ff639a125d34)



Mr Johnson, the prime minister at the time, said it would reflect "the UK's burgeoning status as a great, independent maritime trading nation" after Brexit.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/timesradio/status/1589594213066350592?s=46&t=btaNqg-36f_Xrk4B2PCxow

Ross says Williamson should go. Not sure how long that will be his position though.
In ten days time he will be calling for the SG to raise taxes to match Westminster only a few weeks after calling on the SG to cut taxes.


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[Bostonhibby]

https://twitter.com/timesradio/status/1589594213066350592?s=46&t=btaNqg-36f_Xrk4B2PCxow

Ross says Williamson should go. Not sure how long that will be his position though.
In ten days time he will be calling for the SG to raise taxes to match Westminster only a few weeks after calling on the SG to cut taxes.


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[Ozyhibby]

Alistair Jack to get a peerage.

https://twitter.com/ballotboxscot/status/1589750527394734080?s=46&t=btaNqg-36f_Xrk4B2PCxow


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[grunt]

Alistair Jack to get a peerage.

https://twitter.com/ballotboxscot/status/1589750527394734080?s=46&t=btaNqg-36f_Xrk4B2PCxow

"Suck it up, Scotland".

[grunt]

Williamson gone

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhEUvQsXwAEVE3G?format=jpg&name=medium

[Kato]

https://twitter.com/snb19692/status/1590077454529724416?t=ilDnR9jzrf9LXLluQL7wvA&s=19

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[Stairway 2 7]

Won't go down well with many in his party

@benrileysmith
🚨NEW: Rishi Sunak is considering announcing a major expansion in the **top rate of income tax** next week.

45p rate could rise or £150,000 threshold lower. National Insurance **employee** rise also being looked at. Part of scramble for more cash

For much of the Autumn Statement run-up those working on it have been determined not to raise the rates of the 3 big taxes (NI, income, VAT).

BUT… over weekend during talks it’s become clear how hard it is to keep that **and** protect pension triple lock + benefits price rise

The top income tax rate now being looked at. Raising 45p rate or lowering 150k threshold.

Quite remarkable politically. Liz Truss only scrapped it in Sep, before being forced to reverse.

(Sunak also promised income tax cuts - 4p off the basic rate - in his leadership bid)

[cabbageandribs1875]

williamson resigning says a lot about Sunak, he was more than happy to allow him to stay on, just like Johnson Sunak has surrounded himself with a shower of unlikeable unsavoury individuals so they can take the heat of him


the diminutive little squirt

[CropleyWasGod]

A tad disturbing

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1590241385642270720?t=vkuwv7gZOeBGaEha4Ic2ew&s=19

[wookie70]

A tad disturbing

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1590241385642270720?t=vkuwv7gZOeBGaEha4Ic2ew&s=19

I listened to the reporter this morning on LBC. Sounds an horrific ordeal and I hope her DNA and fingerprint samples etc are not kept in the system. Hopefully this is just a couple of thick plod wanting a few hours away from the difficult situation. My thoughts are that the new protesting laws will e most welcome by quite a chunk of officers and this may well be a sign of things to come. Imagine she wasn't a journalist but was just interested in watching. She was not causing an obstruction, was filming but from a public space and had no part in organising the protest. As far as I can see she has done nothing wrong even if she isn't a journalist and this could well be teh Police now removing anyone that can gather evidence before going in hard on protesters. This is a massive event for me and needs huge attention. Freedom is hard gained and easily lost and we are seeing it being stolen back at an alarming rate in the UK.

[Oscar T Grouch]

A tad disturbing

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1590241385642270720?t=vkuwv7gZOeBGaEha4Ic2ew&s=19

Call me an old cynic if you want to but the police reform bill is designed to allow police to stop legitimate journalists reporting their abuses of the common people, allowing these abuses being the main reason for the bill in the first place

[Kato]

I listened to the reporter this morning on LBC. Sounds an horrific ordeal and I hope her DNA and fingerprint samples etc are not kept in the system. Hopefully this is just a couple of thick plod wanting a few hours away from the difficult situation. My thoughts are that the new protesting laws will e most welcome by quite a chunk of officers and this may well be a sign of things to come. Imagine she wasn't a journalist but was just interested in watching. She was not causing an obstruction, was filming but from a public space and had no part in organising the protest. As far as I can see she has done nothing wrong even if she isn't a journalist and this could well be teh Police now removing anyone that can gather evidence before going in hard on protesters. This is a massive event for me and needs huge attention. Freedom is hard gained and easily lost and we are seeing it being stolen back at an alarming rate in the UK.Journalists arrested abroad = Extremism.

Journalists arrested in UK = owning the libs.

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[wookie70]

It has taken us three attempts and a disaggregated Ballot but at last Civil Servants will now be able to strike back against the governments that employ them.

[cabbageandribs1875]

𝚈𝙴𝚂_𝚂𝙲𝙾𝚃𝚂 on Twitter: "Pulled this off tiktok and it totally wins the Internet for me today! #ScottishIndependence2023 #indyref2 #areyouyesyet #YesScots #disolvetheunion https://t.co/JjAOmepOWv" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/Yes_Scots/status/1590310735980044288?t=YgFyVWgNJXV3vQ5vIKSYAA&s=19&fbclid=IwAR0zRKLad1lSdl259timZXwQkgVUUZVa_1Ze12-ucbsBrRSyQHSRf1PbiLE)

:hilarious

[wookie70]

𝚈𝙴𝚂_𝚂𝙲𝙾𝚃𝚂 on Twitter: "Pulled this off tiktok and it totally wins the Internet for me today! #ScottishIndependence2023 #indyref2 #areyouyesyet #YesScots #disolvetheunion https://t.co/JjAOmepOWv" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/Yes_Scots/status/1590310735980044288?t=YgFyVWgNJXV3vQ5vIKSYAA&s=19&fbclid=IwAR0zRKLad1lSdl259timZXwQkgVUUZVa_1Ze12-ucbsBrRSyQHSRf1PbiLE)

:hilarious
Victorian Principles was genius

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Victorian Principles was genius

Is that the redhead from Dallas?🤔

[wookie70]

Is that the redhead from Dallas?🤔 No a deadhead from Eton

[wookie70]

Dockers get a proper pay award of 14.3%-18.5%

[Kato]

Dockers get a proper pay award of 14.3%-18.5%Vital part of the supply chains and new freeports. Good at the chore too.

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[grunt]

Vital part of the supply chains and new freeports. Good at the chore too.

I thought the Freeports idea was being dropped?

[Stairway 2 7]

Good article on the nurses strike finances. For example a third of their rise will come back in tax, more from vat and reduction in universal credit, could go here or snp thread

https://archive.ph/y7y2X

The question for the Government is simple: who do they want to prioritise, nurses or landlords?
Nurses are gearing up for a national strike after years of real term pay cuts

[Kato]

Good article on the nurses strike finances. For example a third of their rise will come back in tax, more from vat and reduction in universal credit, could go here or snp thread

https://archive.ph/y7y2X

The question for the Government is simple: who do they want to prioritise, nurses or landlords?
Nurses are gearing up for a national strike after years of real term pay cutsAdd in being charged to park your car in an NHS car park. Canteens more expensive than the HoC.


https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1590611488263184384?t=k-tTNFIjyuX0OnOXnKQPEg&s=19

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[Stairway 2 7]

Add in being charged to park your car in an NHS car park. Canteens more expensive than the HoC.


https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1590611488263184384?t=k-tTNFIjyuX0OnOXnKQPEg&s=19

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Jeez that's awful reading. Didn't realise these bams got so much more for a cabinet post

[Kato]

Jeez that's awful reading. Didn't realise these bams got so much more for a cabinet postProbably exaggerated for the parking but even so. It should be free. Monetising that is just skewed thinking.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Probably exaggerated for the parking but even so. It should be free. Monetising that is just skewed thinking.

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Its mini privatisation of a small slice of the NHS really

[Moulin Yarns]

Add in being charged to park your car in an NHS car park. Canteens more expensive than the HoC.


https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1590611488263184384?t=k-tTNFIjyuX0OnOXnKQPEg&s=19

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At the risk of backing the NHS boards, the car parks at some major hospitals (ERI and Ninewells for example) are private and not run by the NHS.

[Ozyhibby]

At the risk of backing the NHS boards, the car parks at some major hospitals (ERI and Ninewells for example) are private and not run by the NHS.

All the NHS run car parks in Scotland are free. It’s just the Labour PFI ones that are not.


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[Kato]

All the NHS run car parks in Scotland are free. It’s just the Labour PFI ones that are not.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYes, I remember that. Nationalise them. They've had a decent drink at the well.

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[He's here!]

All smiles at their first face to face meeting:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63587842

[Stairway 2 7]

At the risk of backing the NHS boards, the car parks at some major hospitals (ERI and Ninewells for example) are private and not run by the NHS.

But that's the point. They should never have been allowed to be private. They were sold off or given on long term loans. It was a quick buck but it means people sometimes at their lowest ebb would have to pay it back.

[Hibrandenburg]

All smiles at their first face to face meeting:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63587842

I see he had Gove with him to translate.

[Jack]

Its mini privatisation of a small slice of the NHS really

Healthcare is provided free of charge by the NHS.

Car parking is not a health issue.

[Moulin Yarns]

But that's the point. They should never have been allowed to be private. They were sold off or given on long term loans. It was a quick buck but it means people sometimes at their lowest ebb would have to pay it back.

As Ozy replied, the car parks at some hospitals are private because of the contract for building them. My nearest hospital has a car park which is free to those with appointments, staff and visitors and is patrolled by one of the pirate car park companies.

[Bostonhibby]

I see he had Gove with him to translate.He was warned that it rains a lot in Scotland and needed something to put over the puddles to step on?

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[James310]

All smiles at their first face to face meeting:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63587842

This will be the 4th Prime Minister in a row she has told she is having a referendum.

[Moulin Yarns]

This will be the 4th Prime Minister in a row she has told she is having a referendum.

You know what it's like, you wait for ages then 4 come along in quick succession. 😉

[Kato]

Healthcare is provided free of charge by the NHS.

Car parking is not a health issue.It is if a nurse is paying £150 a month to park at their work but struggling to find enough money to pay for food.

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[Ozyhibby]

This will be the 4th Prime Minister in a row she has told she is having a referendum.

Your turning into a right troll.[emoji849]


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[weecounty hibby]

All smiles at their first face to face meeting:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63587842

What do you want her to do. Stick the head on him, kick him in the nuts and shout Freedom!! She is well known as one of the best states women in world politics. I knkw that will wind you up into a rage but that is a fact. She us doing her job as the leader of our country meeting another leader (for now!)

[Jack]

It is if a nurse is paying £150 a month to park at their work but struggling to find enough money to pay for food.

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I agree nurses and other healthcare professionals shouldn't be paying such a ridiculous amount for parking but their parking is not what the NHS was set up to pay for.

[Hibbyradge]

I agree nurses and other healthcare professionals shouldn't be paying such a ridiculous amount for parking but their parking is not what the NHS was set up to pay for.

Medical staff get a lot of sympathy because they have to pay but the truth is that most city employees don't have free parking provided.

Because there are often large car parks outside hospitals it seems there's more of an injustice compared to someone who works at Standard Life or the Scottish Office for example.

If the staff at York hospital were given free parking, there would be no space for the patients because the car park there is regularly full as it is.

[Stairway 2 7]

I agree nurses and other healthcare professionals shouldn't be paying such a ridiculous amount for parking but their parking is not what the NHS was set up to pay for.

That's simplistic and daft imo. If you have no bus route for example, you shouldn't have to worry about affording to see a dying relative or going to hospital. When we were in neo natal will our youngest there were people that had to pay for months to see their sick child.

Saying nhs wasn't set up to pay parking is daft too. It was nhs land originally next to most hospitals, it would have been no cost to nhs or public. What the crooked right wing labour government at the time was sell off lots our nhs land or give long leases to build car parks. Then we as the public have the pleasure of paying it back when we're at our worst of.

All that is before we talk about nurses and cleaners ect also having to pay.

[Moulin Yarns]

What is everybody complaining about?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58306354

https://www.gov.scot/news/hospital-pfi-car-parks-in-glasgow-and-dundee-bought-out/


Surely not more Tory lies????

[Stairway 2 7]

What is everybody complaining about?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58306354

https://www.gov.scot/news/hospital-pfi-car-parks-in-glasgow-and-dundee-bought-out/


Surely not more Tory lies????

I think it's great they two are being nationalised as it is an nhs imo.

Doesn't help us at Edinburgh but hopefully that eventually changes

[Moulin Yarns]

I think it's great they two are being nationalised as it is an nhs imo.

Doesn't help us at Edinburgh but hopefully that eventually changes

But, should the Scottish Government be buying car parks rather than putting it into pay increases?

[Stairway 2 7]

But, should the Scottish Government be buying car parks rather than putting it into pay increases?

They should be doing both why is it a choice between just they two in a multi billion pound budget. You wouldn't say should we raise child benefits with inflation, when we're increasing disability allowance.

[Moulin Yarns]

They should be doing both why is it a choice between just they two in a multi billion pound budget. You wouldn't say should we raise child benefits with inflation, when we're increasing disability allowance.

That's good because the government has a finite amount of money and there was a stooshie (good Scots word) about cash going to support gaelic language facilities on here not that long ago.

[Stairway 2 7]

That's good because the government has a finite amount of money and there was a stooshie (good Scots word) about cash going to support gaelic language facilities on here not that long ago.

As I've said before you prioritise in a budget. Some things are more important like benefits and wages then it descends down to infrastructure projects or cultural things. Some of the least important have to drop out when wages or benefits have to increase.

[degenerated]

Your turning into a right troll.[emoji849]


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[grunt]

As I've said before you prioritise in a budget. Some things are more important like benefits and wages then it descends down to infrastructure projects or cultural things. Some of the least important have to drop out when wages or benefits have to increase.
You must be pleased that the English National Opera has had its funding stopped, if you are happy for culture to be down the queue for funding.

[degenerated]

As I've said before you prioritise in a budget. Some things are more important like benefits and wages then it descends down to infrastructure projects or cultural things. Some of the least important have to drop out when wages or benefits have to increase.Infrastructure projects are hugely important to the economy, bizarre comment.

[Stairway 2 7]

Infrastructure projects are hugely important to the economy, bizarre comment.

Of course they are important. But we in Scotland can't borrow, so a new road is bellow raising benefits in line with inflation for example. I'd borrow and start massive infrastructure projects if I was Sunak.

Saying you must not want opera or infrastructure is beyond daft, the fact is there is a fixed budget and a list of priorities.