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Glory Lurker
14-01-2022, 08:53 PM
How the hell is he still there? Ministers used to have to resign for the absolute non-issues of being gay or having an affair. How have we gone from that ridiculous extreme to the Prime damn Minister getting to behave as he has and not being sine died weeks ago?

Hibrandenburg
14-01-2022, 08:56 PM
How the hell is he still there? Ministers used to have to resign for the absolute non-issues of being gay or having an affair. How have we gone from that ridiculous extreme to the Prime damn Minister getting to behave as he has and not being sine died weeks ago?

Not just ministers but whole governments have crumbled for less.

Ozyhibby
14-01-2022, 08:57 PM
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-14/is-there-any-route-to-redemption-for-boris-johnson

If he manages to survive this, it’s hard to see how Douglas Ross can stay in position, or even how the Scottish Tories don’t have to break away.


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hibsbollah
14-01-2022, 09:05 PM
This was our PM recently. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220114/e8272c679c914bbfe11e316ca9dde1cf.jpg

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:faf:

It’s funny unless you’re a Tory.

gbhibby
14-01-2022, 09:06 PM
https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/1481934007726231552?s=21

We need to move on.


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Would not truss that women as far as I could throw her

Glory Lurker
14-01-2022, 09:44 PM
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-14/is-there-any-route-to-redemption-for-boris-johnson

If he manages to survive this, it’s hard to see how Douglas Ross can stay in position, or even how the Scottish Tories don’t have to break away.


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There's no chance the Tories up here will break away. It's a core value of theirs that Scots shouldn't be assertive (or bitter/grievance driven in their view).

lapsedhibee
14-01-2022, 09:50 PM
Mr Johnson is understood to be drawing up a list of officials who can offer their resignation after the publication of Sue Gray’s findings on the various gatherings at No10.
Exactly as predicted by Bryant at Wednesday's PMQs.

Ozyhibby
14-01-2022, 10:49 PM
https://twitter.com/juniorbulumakau/status/1482015027070750723?s=21

UK getting more ridiculous every day. Deporting serving soldiers now?[emoji23]


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stu in nottingham
14-01-2022, 11:04 PM
This report claims that it was 'Wine Time Friday' in the 10 Downing Street gardens every week throughout the pandemic.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-wine-time-fridays-25951853?fbclid=IwAR2D70GKPEQzNC6kOJ1DMfgC3v2AWB_-s2xzTb2U***Xz76R_nxiqpEI6_4

Bostonhibby
15-01-2022, 07:33 AM
This report claims that it was 'Wine Time Friday' in the 10 Downing Street gardens every week throughout the pandemic.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-wine-time-fridays-25951853?fbclid=IwAR2D70GKPEQzNC6kOJ1DMfgC3v2AWB_-s2xzTb2U***Xz76R_nxiqpEI6_4What about beer drinkers?

Discrimination of the worst kind, it does confirm that Bozo's levelling up propaganda was just that though. Opportunity missed.

You'd think at the very least red wall Tories would have felt duty bound to be caught with a pint in their hand, even if they'd only knocked the head off it for the camera.

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Pretty Boy
15-01-2022, 08:05 AM
The culture of any workplace is set by those at the top. This blatant disregard for the rules ultimately stems from the PM himself.

I've no real issue with a 'wine time:in a workplace. I've worked in places that allowed a couple of bottles of beer at the desk on a Friday afternoon. However this appears a more deep rooted anything goes type atmosphere.

There was someone on Twitter last night, journo or similar, saying had Gordon Brown been in his flat and heard anything like that going on he would have went down and sacked the perpetrators on the spot. The inevitable replies from the last defenders of Johnson were along the lines of 'he wasn't there, he was in Chequers'. The point isn't whether Brown would have literally sacked people on the spot, the point is he set a culture in the workplace that ensured people knew the boundaries and respected the office they were representing. Johnson himself doesn't respect the position he holds so it's no wonder junior ministers, staffers and the like don't respect it either.

cabbageandribs1875
15-01-2022, 10:57 AM
https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/271880056_4550318815066869_86992779800964990_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=YOajzMUHpQEAX9KS9pj&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT8rYdStsQk_UtKi-ww2CqwNmJAZ7Oz0kxt2bjqCWUGQhw&oe=61E84440

Colr
15-01-2022, 11:04 AM
The culture of any workplace is set by those at the top. This blatant disregard for the rules ultimately stems from the PM himself.

I've no real issue with a 'wine time:in a workplace. I've worked in places that allowed a couple of bottles of beer at the desk on a Friday afternoon. However this appears a more deep rooted anything goes type atmosphere.

There was someone on Twitter last night, journo or similar, saying had Gordon Brown been in his flat and heard anything like that going on he would have went down and sacked the perpetrators on the spot. The inevitable replies from the last defenders of Johnson were along the lines of 'he wasn't there, he was in Chequers'. The point isn't whether Brown would have literally sacked people on the spot, the point is he set a culture in the workplace that ensured people knew the boundaries and respected the office they were representing. Johnson himself doesn't respect the position he holds so it's no wonder junior ministers, staffers and the like don't respect it either.

The only place I’ve ever experienced people drinking in the workplace was in a very large metropolitan council in the west of Scotland.

Even Friday lunchtime drinking faded away in the 1990 downturn. Drink and work is very much frowned on now even at business lunches. Clearly not at No10.

Hibrandenburg
15-01-2022, 11:53 AM
The only place I’ve ever experienced people drinking in the workplace was in a very large metropolitan council in the west of Scotland.

Even Friday lunchtime drinking faded away in the 1990 downturn. Drink and work is very much frowned on now even at business lunches. Clearly not at No10.

Bar Parade every Friday at some army units. If the Soviets wanted to invade BAOR in the 80's then all they had to do was wait until Friday afternoon. That said, my experience with the Soviet army in Berlin would suggest that they would be worse for wear than us.

Peanut Shaz
15-01-2022, 06:02 PM
Bar Parade every Friday at some army units. If the Soviets wanted to invade BAOR in the 80's then all they had to do was wait until Friday afternoon. That said, my experience with the Soviet army in Berlin would suggest that they would be worse for wear than us.

Yep, I worked over the years in the 80's/90's as a civvy at two Scottish Barracks and most Friday afternoons were spent in the WO's/Sgt's mess at the invitation of one of the WO's. Hardly spent anything either as everything was so cheap. Good Times.

Callum_62
15-01-2022, 10:32 PM
https://twitter.com/terrychristian/status/1482370902289440768?t=zXtvHJMXGunEZai5yUzw0Q&s=19

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stoneyburn hibs
16-01-2022, 12:17 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if he's kept in place until after the May elections.
We're so passive,they know it.
All the London press are drinking from the same trough as the Tory government.
The public just take it and maybe show their indignation by posting on forums like this.
Contracts for PPI, Government lockdown parties,stoat the baw Royals.

Shame on us,we shake our heads and do nothing more.
Other European citizens must think we are pathetic, rightly so.

Col2
16-01-2022, 12:33 AM
Gavin Williamson has been given a knighthood. Yes you read it correctly.

Aparantly has a huge amount of insider knowledge that would destroy the govt if it got out, especially Boris. Most of which is related to Russian money and influence, so the rumours are.

cabbageandribs1875
16-01-2022, 03:29 AM
meanwhile the deputy PM Princess nut nut broke rules as well.... there's a shock Carrie Johnson admits ‘lapse in judgement’ as picture shows her breaking Covid rules at West End club
Carrie Johnson admits ‘lapse in judgement’ as picture shows her breaking Covid rules at West End club (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/carrie-johnson-admits-lapse-in-judgement-as-picture-shows-her-breaking-covid-rules-at-west-end-club/ar-AASOKBJ)

The image was taken on 17 September 2020. Days earlier, on 9 September, Mr Johnson told the British public: “If we are to beat the virus then everyone, at all times, should limit social contact as much as possible and minimise interactions with other households.
“It is safer to meet outdoors and you should keep your distance from anyone you don’t live with, even if they are close friends or family.”
He added that it was “crucial” to stay at least two metres apart, or one metre apart outdoors. At the time, Covid rules prevented people gathering in groups of more than six, with only a handful of exemptions including at weddings and funerals

hibsbollah
16-01-2022, 08:48 AM
meanwhile the deputy PM Princess nut nut broke rules as well.... there's a shock Carrie Johnson admits ‘lapse in judgement’ as picture shows her breaking Covid rules at West End club
Carrie Johnson admits ‘lapse in judgement’ as picture shows her breaking Covid rules at West End club (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/carrie-johnson-admits-lapse-in-judgement-as-picture-shows-her-breaking-covid-rules-at-west-end-club/ar-AASOKBJ)

The image was taken on 17 September 2020. Days earlier, on 9 September, Mr Johnson told the British public: “If we are to beat the virus then everyone, at all times, should limit social contact as much as possible and minimise interactions with other households.
“It is safer to meet outdoors and you should keep your distance from anyone you don’t live with, even if they are close friends or family.”
He added that it was “crucial” to stay at least two metres apart, or one metre apart outdoors. At the time, Covid rules prevented people gathering in groups of more than six, with only a handful of exemptions including at weddings and funerals

Dominic Cummings’ hard drive will be breathing a sigh of relief. He must have shifted terabytes of images over the last few weeks .

Ozyhibby
16-01-2022, 09:56 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220116/f0d70c27ee456041ff66256278e490d9.jpg


Pre-warned it was a party.


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Ozyhibby
16-01-2022, 05:08 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/16/boris-johnson-prepares-a-populist-offensive-to-save-his-skin?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1642355495

Operation ‘save big dog’ seems to be go hard right.


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Jones28
17-01-2022, 09:15 AM
Head of Credit Suisse resigns after Covid breaches.

So the head of a big bank has more integrity than our illustrious PM

Credit Suisse boss Horta-Osorio resigns over Covid breaches - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60019735)

LunasBoots
17-01-2022, 10:32 AM
Head of Credit Suisse resigns after Covid breaches.

So the head of a big bank has more integrity than our illustrious PM

Credit Suisse boss Horta-Osorio resigns over Covid breaches - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60019735)


Notice other Tories coming out with the 'work event' line....a bit of lets continue the lie while we cover it up going on.

Ozyhibby
17-01-2022, 11:31 AM
Notice other Tories coming out with the 'work event' line....a bit of lets continue the lie while we cover it up going on.

I’m back to thinking he survives again now. The Grey report will come out establishing what we already know and he’ll apologise, sack a few people, start shutting down the BBC and send the navy into the channel to sink some dinghy’s. Then we can all wave union flags and rejoice his greatness.


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Ozyhibby
17-01-2022, 12:38 PM
Johnson apparently going to put Sue Grey report to Parliament and make the Tory party vote against him publicly.
Smart move.

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/boris-johnson-call-confidence-vote-commons-himself-could-backfire-1405800

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lapsedhibee
17-01-2022, 01:16 PM
Johnson apparently going to put Sue Grey report to Parliament and make the Tory party vote against him publicly.
Smart move.

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/boris-johnson-call-confidence-vote-commons-himself-could-backfire-1405800


Won't the threat of a public vote just encourage Tory switherers to put their letters in to Brady, as that process isn't public?

Scorrie
17-01-2022, 03:06 PM
I’m back to thinking he survives again now. The Grey report will come out establishing what we already know and he’ll apologise, sack a few people, start shutting down the BBC and send the navy into the channel to sink some dinghy’s. Then we can all wave union flags and rejoice his greatness.


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Unfortunately I think this is pretty much spot on. The risk for Johnson is that he only keeps the bampot Tory vote ( which he has anyway)but loses blue wall Remain Tory seats to the Lib Dems . And wow betide any government taking on Radio 4 listeners !

Northernhibee
17-01-2022, 03:21 PM
Unfortunately I think this is pretty much spot on. The risk for Johnson is that he only keeps the bampot Tory vote ( which he has anyway)but loses blue wall Remain Tory seats to the Lib Dems . And wow betide any government taking on Radio 4 listeners !

I think this quite frankly is brilliant for anyone wanting the Tories out if it's what comes to pass. It's coaxing them to tearing themselves apart in the most public of fashions or they plod on under Johnson with the constant drip drip of scandal and sleaze and they slip further in the polls.

The more Tories that get implicated in the sleaze or mistrust the better. There's a lot more mileage in this.

JeMeSouviens
17-01-2022, 03:23 PM
I’m back to thinking he survives again now. The Grey report will come out establishing what we already know and he’ll apologise, sack a few people, start shutting down the BBC and send the navy into the channel to sink some dinghy’s. Then we can all wave union flags and rejoice his greatness.


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The BBC thing is to get Rupe back onside.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJUM9P2WQAM7zW4?format=jpg&name=medium

JeMeSouviens
17-01-2022, 03:26 PM
I think this quite frankly is brilliant for anyone wanting the Tories out if it's what comes to pass. It's coaxing them to tearing themselves apart in the most public of fashions or they plod on under Johnson with the constant drip drip of scandal and sleaze and they slip further in the polls.

The more Tories that get implicated in the sleaze or mistrust the better. There's a lot more mileage in this.

I get what you're saying but I just want him gone tbh so I never have to look at his smarmy clown act again and the only time we ever hear of him is in the context of "worst PM ever" debates. (Which will gnaw at his narcissism for the rest of his life, so at least there's that.)

Northernhibee
17-01-2022, 03:34 PM
I get what you're saying but I just want him gone tbh so I never have to look at his smarmy clown act again and the only time we ever hear of him is in the context of "worst PM ever" debates. (Which will gnaw at his narcissism for the rest of his life, so at least there's that.)

He'll never resign, he's way too vain for that. The more chance he has to divide the party further the more chance it leads to a general election IMO. Even if it doesn't, the closer it is to the next election and it gives his incumbent less time to salvage what's left in terms of floating voters.

This will be a painful year or two but the more that Johnson is at the front of it, the more chance we come out of the other side without a Tory PM.

cabbageandribs1875
17-01-2022, 03:38 PM
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Scorrie
17-01-2022, 04:17 PM
The Guardian saying just now that apparently 40% of grass roots Tories want Johnson gone. Will be interesting to see how this pans out heading into English local government elections

Kato
17-01-2022, 04:37 PM
The Guardian saying just now that apparently 40% of grass roots Tories want Johnson gone. Will be interesting to see how this pans out heading into English local government electionsSo 60% want him to stay! Tells everyone exactly what they think of this country.

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lapsedhibee
17-01-2022, 04:44 PM
So 60% want him to stay! Tells everyone exactly what they think of this country.


Corbyn would have thrown worse parties!

Jones28
17-01-2022, 05:10 PM
Corbyn would have thrown worse parties!

He’d have served his homemade organic elderflower champagne.

The ****.

Ozyhibby
17-01-2022, 05:18 PM
Corbyn would have thrown worse parties!

Keep seeing people referring to Corbyn. I don’t think he could beat Johnson even now in an election. He was a terrible option to put before the electorate. He managed to lose two post brexit elections against terrible opponents when there was a massive opportunity to capture the remain vote.
The only thing Corbyn was actually good at was delivering right wing governments.


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grunt
17-01-2022, 05:28 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJUiSYiWQAgwXpA?format=png&name=medium

Dominic Cummings weighs in again. https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1483129651975315459/photo/1https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1483129651975315459/photo/1.jpg

JeMeSouviens
17-01-2022, 05:33 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJUiSYiWQAgwXpA?format=png&name=medium

Dominic Cummings weighs in again. https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1483129651975315459/photo/1https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1483129651975315459/photo/1.jpg

Full bit from his blog:


UPDATE, 17 JAN

I started writing a long explanation of the 20 May.

It was a pivotal day for reasons other than the drinks party.

It was the day on which days of intense conflict over the the future of the government — including the Cabinet Office, Cabinet Secretary and the PPS’s own job, the real core of hidden power in the British state — came to boiling point. In many ways, the decisions and emotions of that day led directly to my departure.

Discussions about the PPS’s party invite at lunchtime therefore occurred in an extremely combustible environment. People were screaming in rage and frustration at the chaos the PM had caused by botched sackings and telling everybody different things. People were threatening to resign and hold press conferences. Whitehall was looking to the PM’s office for leadership on covid but it was a particularly intense shambles that day.

The whole thing is so profoundly depressing I can’t bring myself to write it all down now. I’ll just make some very simple points about the immediate issue in front of Sue Gray…

On 20 May, after the PPS sent the invitation to the drinks party, a very senior official replied by email saying the invite broke the rules. This email will be seen by Sue Gray (unless there is a foolish coverup which would also probably be a criminal offence).

The PPS went to the official’s office where they discussed it. The PPS declined to withdraw the invite.

I told the PPS the invite broke the rules.

He said: so long as it’s socially distanced I think it’s OK, I’ll check with the PM if he’s happy for it to go ahead. (Obviously even if it was ‘socially distanced’ this would in no way make it ‘within the rules’.)

I am sure he did check with the PM. (I think it very likely another senior official spoke to the PM about it but I am not sure.)

Amid discussion over the future of the Cabinet Secretary and PPS himself, which had been going on for days, I said to the PM something like: Martin’s invited the building to a drinks party, this is what I’m talking about, you’ve got to grip this madhouse.

The PM waved it aside. I had told him repeatedly the PPS should be replaced, as had other competent officials who knew the whole structure needed a huge upgrade in personnel and management. ‘He’s MY guy, I don’t want you replacing him with YOUR person.’ (Yes, this says a lot.)

I went home to bed at 3ish, still very ill from covid.

The idea that the PPS would be challenged by two of the most senior people in the building, say he’d check with the PM then not — is not credible.

Will the PPS claim that having invited people to a drinks party, he told the PM it was a ‘work meeting’?! (Claiming this, given the actual words of his invite, would, of course, necessarily imply that MR knew a drinks party was against the rules.)

Is the PM going to claim that a) his PPS told him ‘PM this is a work meeting’ and b) after he walked around the garden talking to people standing around drinking, ‘Sue, honestly, I swear to you I thought it was a work meeting’?!

No10 is throwing out as much confusing chaff as possible, such as nonsense about a ‘drinking culture’ intended to shift blame. (There was no ‘drinking culture’ while I was there but the string of parties after I left shows the PM trying to be ‘my own chief of staff’ was disastrous, as he was told it would be.)

MPs should focus on the basics.

The PM’s PPS invited people to a drinks party.
The PPS was told to cancel the invite by at least two people.
He checked with the PM whether the party should go ahead.
The PM agreed it should.
They both went to the party.
It was actually a drinks party.
The PM told MPs repeatedly that he had no idea about any parties.
The events of 20 May alone, never mind the string of other events, mean the PM lied to Parliament about parties.

Not only me but other eyewitnesses who discussed this at the time would swear under oath this is what happened.

I notice that when I explained about the PM trying to go see the Queen when he might have been infectious and I stopped him, No10 issued a total denial and I was told that ‘Martin is supporting the PM’s denial’. This episode was also witnessed by others who will tell the official inquiry that what I have said is true and the official denials are false.

There are many other photos of parties after I left yet to appear.

I’ll say more when SG’s report is published.

grunt
17-01-2022, 05:41 PM
Full bit from his blog:
Thanks. Excellent hand grenade in the last line!

hibsbollah
17-01-2022, 05:46 PM
Keep seeing people referring to Corbyn. I don’t think he could beat Johnson even now in an election. He was a terrible option to put before the electorate. He managed to lose two post brexit elections against terrible opponents when there was a massive opportunity to capture the remain vote.
The only thing Corbyn was actually good at was delivering right wing governments.


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What someone says about Corbyn is very much swayed by if you liked him and his policies or not. What isnt arguable was that a) A more left wing alternative he presented got more votes in absolute terms b) the more left wing alternative he presented stimulated more people to vote against him too. He rocked comparable poll leads than the ones Starmers got now.

What is interesting about Starmer is we still know almost nothing about his policies now. A lot is said about him being right wing but he was elected by the Labour members as a unity candidate to bridge the gap between right and left of the party. This is him talking about his 'socialism'. (he has since recanted a few of these)

https://keirstarmer.com/plans/10-pledges/

Ozyhibby
17-01-2022, 05:50 PM
What someone says about Corbyn is very much swayed by if you liked him and his policies or not. What isnt arguable was that a) A more left wing alternative he presented got more votes in absolute terms b) the more left wing alternative he presented stimulated more people to vote against him too. He rocked comparable poll leads than the ones Starmers got now.

What is interesting about Starmer is we still know almost nothing about his policies now. A lot is said about him being right wing but he was elected by the Labour members as a unity candidate to bridge the gap between right and left of the party. This is him talking about his 'socialism'. (he has since recanted a few of these)

https://keirstarmer.com/plans/10-pledges/

I personally think Starmer is pretty useless but the no policies attack isn’t one I’d use. Keeping policy launches for the actual campaign seems to be the done thing now. The same accusation was levelled at Blair and Cameron and they both won.


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lapsedhibee
17-01-2022, 06:36 PM
With potential candidates being tipped to run including the education secretary, Nadhim Zahawi

There are no emojis.

Ozyhibby
17-01-2022, 07:45 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/migrant-crossings-no-10-policy-chiefs-explored-using-powerful-sonic-weapons-to-halt-journeys-across-the-english-channel-12518663

Populist fight back on.


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Ozyhibby
17-01-2022, 08:45 PM
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Hiber-nation
17-01-2022, 08:51 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/migrant-crossings-no-10-policy-chiefs-explored-using-powerful-sonic-weapons-to-halt-journeys-across-the-english-channel-12518663

Populist fight back on.


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My mate's neighbour in Yorkshire is an old racist Mail-reading dyed in the wool Tory tosser and apparently even he's not fooled by this and the BBC stuff. Just wants Johnson out.

Ozyhibby
17-01-2022, 09:08 PM
My mate's neighbour in Yorkshire is an old racist Mail-reading dyed in the wool Tory tosser and apparently even he's not fooled by this and the BBC stuff. Just wants Johnson out.

Aye but sonic cannons ffs. Surely that will get his British nationalist juices flowing?


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hibsbollah
17-01-2022, 09:25 PM
With potential candidates being tipped to run including the education secretary, Nadhim Zahawi

There are no emojis.

I assume you’re joking.

Andy Bee
17-01-2022, 09:56 PM
I assume you’re joking.

He's actually 16-1 the last time I looked but he's continually mentioning he's vaccine rollout minister lately so those odds have probably lowered. Penny Mordaunt is another I'm hearing more often. Tobias Elwood another and Tom Tugendhat is also being mentioned a lot. I'm emigrating to anywhere that'll have me.

The Harp Awakes
17-01-2022, 11:01 PM
He's actually 16-1 the last time I looked but he's continually mentioning he's vaccine rollout minister lately so those odds have probably lowered. Penny Mordaunt is another I'm hearing more often. Tobias Elwood another and Tom Tugendhat is also being mentioned a lot. I'm emigrating to anywhere that'll have me.

No need to emigrate. Secure an independent Scotland and it's no more Tories in power :aok:

cabbageandribs1875
18-01-2022, 03:41 AM
wow, well done the £320+/day(and expenses) mob, for now anyway

Government defeated as Lords vote to make misogyny a hate crime - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60032465)

The government has suffered a series of defeats in the House of Lords over its plans to clamp down on disruptive and noisy protesters.


Opposition peers voted against a range of measures in the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill, with Labour calling some of the plans "outrageous".


Peers also voted to make misogyny a hate crime in England and Wales in another government defeat.


The bill will now go back to the Commons for MPs to have their say.


i imagine Johnson will want to add another hundred or so Tories to the House of Lords

Ozyhibby
18-01-2022, 09:04 AM
Putting the Scottish Tories on the spot. This should be unanimous if they have any back bone.

https://twitter.com/scotlibdems/status/1483376253600210953?s=21

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JeMeSouviens
18-01-2022, 09:20 AM
Putting the Scottish Tories on the spot. This should be unanimous if they have any back bone.

https://twitter.com/scotlibdems/status/1483376253600210953?s=21

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Shirley a tactical mistake for Unionists to pretend the Scottish Parliament has (or should have) any say in this?

Since90+2
18-01-2022, 09:37 AM
Putting the Scottish Tories on the spot. This should be unanimous if they have any back bone.

https://twitter.com/scotlibdems/status/1483376253600210953?s=21

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Asking a SNP and Green majority parliament if they would like Boris Johnson to resign is a rather pointless exercise.

Ozyhibby
18-01-2022, 10:26 AM
Asking a SNP and Green majority parliament if they would like Boris Johnson to resign is a rather pointless exercise.

I think the point is to flush out the Tories and see who supports Ross.


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Since90+2
18-01-2022, 10:46 AM
I think the point is to flush out the Tories and see who supports Ross.


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Personally I'd rather parliamentary time was used for other things rather than political posturing like this. I'd expect that kind of nonsense at Westminster.

Alex Trager
18-01-2022, 10:58 AM
Full bit from his blog:

I’ve not read it but does he mention how he used the same garden to lie to us all about testing his eye sight in the motor only a few days before?

Ozyhibby
18-01-2022, 11:28 AM
I’m back to thinking he’s toast. Sunak, Hunt and Raab all setting him up this morning with comments about lying to parliament. It’s clear they are all getting ready to run.


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Ozyhibby
18-01-2022, 01:27 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-says-nobody-told-me-no-10-lockdown-garden-party-was-against-the-rules-12519115


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Ozyhibby
18-01-2022, 01:28 PM
https://twitter.com/bydonkeys/status/1483418498944671746?s=21


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Radium
18-01-2022, 01:57 PM
https://twitter.com/mirrorpolitics/status/1483438975385837569?s=21

I didn’t know the rules and nobody told me …

You would have thought he would have been fully briefed on laws that were removing the basic rights of people across England given he was in charge


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Ozyhibby
18-01-2022, 02:15 PM
https://twitter.com/mirrorpolitics/status/1483438975385837569?s=21

I didn’t know the rules and nobody told me …

You would have thought he would have been fully briefed on laws that were removing the basic rights of people across England given he was in charge


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Practically begging to keep his job by convincing us he’s an idiot. Might just work.


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Bostonhibby
18-01-2022, 02:20 PM
https://twitter.com/mirrorpolitics/status/1483438975385837569?s=21

I didn’t know the rules and nobody told me …

You would have thought he would have been fully briefed on laws that were removing the basic rights of people across England given he was in charge


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIs this a different Bozo to the one who stood at a lectern flanked by experts who used to tell a grateful nation what they could and couldn't do to safeguard each other from this dreadful virus?

Those rules type things? They came from somewhere.

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Kato
18-01-2022, 02:35 PM
https://twitter.com/mirrorpolitics/status/1483438975385837569?s=21

I didn’t know the rules and nobody told me …

You would have thought he would have been fully briefed on laws that were removing the basic rights of people across England given he was in charge


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHe was reading the rules out almost every day on TV.

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lapsedhibee
18-01-2022, 02:47 PM
He was reading the rules out almost every day on TV.


Wasn't it mostly Hancock at that time? There's a new Health Secretary now, Hancock's moved on and so should we all :fibber:

Ozyhibby
18-01-2022, 05:00 PM
https://twitter.com/maybulman/status/1483469064991387651?s=21

The UK really is becoming a disgusting place.


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LunasBoots
18-01-2022, 05:28 PM
The line 'lets wait for the report' by alot of Tories like we are all buttoned up backwards from a party of cover ups.

lapsedhibee
18-01-2022, 05:38 PM
The line 'lets wait for the report' by alot of Tories

... along with the repeated lie that it's an independent report.

Jack
18-01-2022, 05:59 PM
The line 'lets wait for the report' by alot of Tories like we are all buttoned up backwards from a party of cover ups.

But it avoids all the questions put to any of them and with any luck, for them, it will die down before the report is published.

They've got form for doing this previously when it suits them and they'll do it again for the next scandal.

Callum_62
18-01-2022, 07:16 PM
https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1483494822484877318?t=Ha8DhBRrzGlqI2zUWsYCow&s=19

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Hibrandenburg
18-01-2022, 08:05 PM
https://twitter.com/maybulman/status/1483469064991387651?s=21

The UK really is becoming a disgusting place.


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Yawn, sniff sniff and coffee.

lapsedhibee
18-01-2022, 08:24 PM
https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1483494822484877318?t=Ha8DhBRrzGlqI2zUWsYCow&s=19


From that thread:

The Secret Barrister
@BarristerSecret

🔷 DEFENCE STATEMENT 🔷

1. There was no party

2. If there was a party, I did not attend

3. If I did attend the party, I did not realise it was a party

4. If I attended the party and realised it was a party, I did not know that parties were banned under the rules that I wrote.

:faf:

Ozyhibby
18-01-2022, 08:50 PM
https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1483544039555321864?s=21

No confidence vote threshold could be reached tomorrow.


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cabbageandribs1875
18-01-2022, 09:06 PM
Elections Bill: MPs approve plans for voter ID checks - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60037651?fbclid=IwAR0m6zfTOjo6VQ-GUysiUC4ftrYIzBRJSKte8Rpj3Sg2cHRCyJx0nXZbsZs)

MPs have backed proposals to introduce mandatory voter ID for elections, a major change to the electoral process in the UK.


Voters will be required to show photo ID at polling stations under measures in the Elections Bill.


shameless tory *******s, absolutely shameless

hibsbollah
18-01-2022, 09:09 PM
I decided to watch and listen to political media from teatime this evening while having an alcoholic drink every time a Tory MP said the words ‘wait’ ‘results’ ‘enquiry’ and ‘Sue Gray’. I had to stop fairly drunk at 7pm and if I’d have kept going until tonight’s news at ten I’d probably be on a dialysis machine.

Northernhibee
18-01-2022, 09:23 PM
Word going round that enough letters have been submitted to trigger a vote of no confidence.

Northernhibee
18-01-2022, 09:42 PM
Also rumours that Johnson has lost the support of the whips and he plans to contest the No confidence vote.

Tomorrow’s PMQs is a must watch.

Bristolhibby
19-01-2022, 06:24 AM
The PM being trolled by a 500 year old warship!

https://twitter.com/maryrosemuseum/status/1483446570167287808?s=21

Northernhibee
19-01-2022, 06:27 AM
The PM being trolled by a 500 year old warship!

https://twitter.com/maryrosemuseum/status/1483446570167287808?s=21

I know we’re waist deep in water, but I think we should wait for the result of Sue Gray’s report into whether or not we are sinking and we should let her finish her investigation.

Ozyhibby
19-01-2022, 06:53 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/18/great-wrecker-boris-johnson-hole-sunlit-uplands-failed


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Bostonhibby
19-01-2022, 07:38 AM
I know we’re waist deep in water, but I think we should wait for the result of Sue Gray’s report into whether or not we are sinking and we should let her finish her investigation.I agree, maybe they could fit in a couple of parties and crack open a few suitcases of wine while they're waiting.

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stokesmessiah
19-01-2022, 09:44 AM
There is a survey result on the live BBC News feed today…approval ratings for cabinet members as voted for by Conservative Party members. Perhaps unsurprisingly Bojo has the lowest by a considerable way. However, more worryingly Liz Truss the highest approval rating by some way 😩. Liz Truss…just let that sink in.

Cheese manufacturers of the U.K. will be rejoicing.

Northernhibee
19-01-2022, 10:46 AM
Laura K on twitter saying there's a poisonous atmosphere amongst the Tories and it's deteriorating hour to hour for Johnson who is phoning round preparing for a confidence vote.

Andy Bee
19-01-2022, 10:56 AM
Christian Wakeford Con MP for Bury South has defected to the Labour party, aparently he's going to sit behind Starmer at PMQ's.

weecounty hibby
19-01-2022, 11:06 AM
Christian Wakeford Con MP for Bury South has defected to the Labour party, aparently he's going to sit behind Starmer at PMQ's.
Things like that are a disgrace. He should quit and call a by election and stand as a Labour candidate. I do not like Tories nor understand why folk would vote for them but his constituents did and voted for a Tory but now have Labour.

Northernhibee
19-01-2022, 11:16 AM
"On the plus side, at least the Prime Minister knows that the staff at No. 10 know how to pack a suitacase".

That's an absolute zinger that one.

Bristolhibby
19-01-2022, 11:19 AM
Things like that are a disgrace. He should quit and call a by election and stand as a Labour candidate. I do not like Tories nor understand why folk would vote for them but his constituents did and voted for a Tory but now have Labour.

You vote for the person in this country, not the party.

Entirely appropriate and I’m sure a decision not taken lightly. I have a strong suspicion that his constituents are waking up to the terrible mistake they made.

J

Northernhibee
19-01-2022, 11:27 AM
Blackford and Starmer back to back are actually pretty effective. Starmer is more forensic but capable of delivering a zinger or two for social media, Blackford is more blunt and to the point.

stokesmessiah
19-01-2022, 11:31 AM
Feel like this was a bit of a damp squib….

Sergio sledge
19-01-2022, 11:32 AM
Things like that are a disgrace. He should quit and call a by election and stand as a Labour candidate. I do not like Tories nor understand why folk would vote for them but his constituents did and voted for a Tory but now have Labour.

His constituents voted for him, not for the party. That is why we have an vote for constituency MPs, as you vote for the candidate and not the party they belong to. I don't see any reason why he should stand down and call a by-election.

Northernhibee
19-01-2022, 11:36 AM
Feel like this was a bit of a damp squib….

It was always going to turn out like that, Johnson just had to avoid answering any questions to avoid digging his own grave with his backbenchers, knowing a confidence vote was likely. He did do that, just, I think, but Starmer needed to be forensic and also get a few zingers in for social media and also likely to get in the news.

That was tougher for Starmer than it looked as it's kind of like when a professional football club like Hibs draw a non league team like BSC Glasgow in the cup, the expectation is a drubbing and nothing less. Get it wrong and it's like Hearts vs Brora and you can be surprised.

Kato
19-01-2022, 11:41 AM
There is a survey result on the live BBC News feed today…approval ratings for cabinet members as voted for by Conservative Party members. Perhaps unsurprisingly Bojo has the lowest by a considerable way. However, more worryingly Liz Truss the highest approval rating by some way [emoji30]. Liz Truss…just let that sink in.

Cheese manufacturers of the U.K. will be rejoicing.Her cache will have risen as she posed for that picture in a fancy room with union flags etc. Must be that as she is a carcrash in doing her actual job.

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Ozyhibby
19-01-2022, 11:43 AM
Truss is massively popular with the members of the party. If she gets to the last two then she will be the new PM. If the MP’s want someone else, they need to make sure she doesn’t get to the last two.


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Northernhibee
19-01-2022, 11:45 AM
No facemasks required anywhere in England as of tomorrow. COVID passports being scrapped soon too.

There's a time when the mandatory wearing of them have to end, but hundreds are still dying. Absolute madness that I have no doubt is an attempt to save his skin.

Hibby70
19-01-2022, 11:47 AM
David Davies - oooft , take that

Northernhibee
19-01-2022, 11:48 AM
David Davies - oooft , take that

For Johnson today, it's Take That - Switch Party.

Northernhibee
19-01-2022, 11:52 AM
I think that the Labour party thinks that there may be a chance of a general election this year. If they didn't then they would want to keep Johnson in for longer (they wanted to do the same with John Major I believe) and hoover up defections to reduce the majority and to extend their lead in the polls.

They're talking about their plans and trying to show that they are a government in waiting. I think they're gambling on a GE.

JeMeSouviens
19-01-2022, 12:00 PM
I think that the Labour party thinks that there may be a chance of a general election this year. If they didn't then they would want to keep Johnson in for longer (they wanted to do the same with John Major I believe) and hoover up defections to reduce the majority and to extend their lead in the polls.

They're talking about their plans and trying to show that they are a government in waiting. I think they're gambling on a GE.

Why would there be a GE this year? Unless the polls turn round miraculously for Sunak or Truss, the Tories will be keeping their heads down.

I think Lab are taking full advantage of this party stuff "cutting through". Ordinary punters that switched to Tory for the first time are feeling betrayed, Lab has to amp that as much as they can. Also, the new PM is going to come in to a background of high inflation and energy costs soaring. Lab will want the new Tory tainted with this stuff, not allow it to be palmed off onto the dog days of Big Dog.

Northernhibee
19-01-2022, 12:04 PM
Why would there be a GE this year? Unless the polls turn round miraculously for Sunak or Truss, the Tories will be keeping their heads down.

I think Lab are taking full advantage of this party stuff "cutting through". Ordinary punters that switched to Tory for the first time are feeling betrayed, Lab has to amp that as much as they can. Also, the new PM is going to come in to a background of high inflation and energy costs soaring. Lab will want the new Tory tainted with this stuff, not allow it to be palmed off onto the dog days of Big Dog.

I don't know. I just get the feeling that Johnson isn't going to go quietly and the way that Starmer was portraying his party.

I'm likely wrong but just a thought in the back of my head.

Unless they're hoping for more defections from the seats who voted Tory for the first time?

hibsbollah
19-01-2022, 12:13 PM
Christian Wakeford Con MP for Bury South has defected to the Labour party, aparently he's going to sit behind Starmer at PMQ's.

…to cheers from the Labour benches, apparently forgetting that ****bag’s appalling voting record. It just spreads the poison into the Labour Party and further dilutes any radicalism or a desire to change the way this country is.

i don’t want a Labour Party full of Tories thanks.

Scorrie
19-01-2022, 12:14 PM
Truss is massively popular with the members of the party. If she gets to the last two then she will be the new PM. If the MP’s want someone else, they need to make sure she doesn’t get to the last two.


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She’ll be another Boris Johnson. Hopelessly out of her depth, thick as 2 short planks and generally useless. Probably be gone inside 2 years

Bristolhibby
19-01-2022, 12:30 PM
No facemasks required anywhere in England as of tomorrow. COVID passports being scrapped soon too.

There's a time when the mandatory wearing of them have to end, but hundreds are still dying. Absolute madness that I have no doubt is an attempt to save his skin.

Well I’ll still be sticking on the mask in shops and busses.

I’ll give it a miss in the pub.

J

Northernhibee
19-01-2022, 12:36 PM
Well I’ll still be sticking on the mask in shops and busses.

I’ll give it a miss in the pub.

J

I work in a position where I speak to a lot of people in hospitality. There is a desperate need to get more money through the tills and more people attending, but there's also a case where a lot of staff are nervous about catching the virus and passing it onto loved ones through a lack of restrictions too. There's a fine balance to be had but this announcement has **** all to do with a balance, it's red meat.

ronaldo7
19-01-2022, 12:37 PM
Christian Wakeford Con MP for Bury South has defected to the Labour party, aparently he's going to sit behind Starmer at PMQ's.

I wonder if Jeremy Corbyn will be reinstated. If they're taking in Tories, surely an ex leader has got a chance.

Northernhibee
19-01-2022, 12:42 PM
Reports on twitter from journalists thinking there may be multiple defections coming soon.

Smart move, if Starmer can keep them in line with policy then that majority may be a lot smaller very soon.

heretoday
19-01-2022, 12:51 PM
Well I’ll still be sticking on the mask in shops and busses.

I’ll give it a miss in the pub.

J

Too right! Unfortunately, many of our fellow citizens I'll be casting off their masks and sanitisers with alacrity.
Good luck everybody!

AugustaHibs
19-01-2022, 12:53 PM
Too right! Unfortunately, many of our fellow citizens I'll be casting off their masks and sanitisers with alacrity.
Good luck everybody!

Don’t want to derail the thread but hand sanitiser does very little in mitigating the spread of covid.

hibsbollah
19-01-2022, 12:56 PM
Don’t want to derail the thread but hand sanitiser does very little in mitigating the spread of covid.


There must be some fun to be had with the 'sanitised' metaphor here. The New 'Sanitised of Socialists' Labour Party works on one level.

JeMeSouviens
19-01-2022, 12:59 PM
Don’t want to derail the thread but hand sanitiser does very little in mitigating the spread of covid.

Works well for flu though, and we're hardly seeing any flu this winter. A covid silver lining?

(Edit - soz, thought I was on the covid thread there)

JeMeSouviens
19-01-2022, 01:01 PM
…to cheers from the Labour benches, apparently forgetting that ****bag’s appalling voting record. It just spreads the poison into the Labour Party and further dilutes any radicalism or a desire to change the way this country is.

i don’t want a Labour Party full of Tories thanks.

Bury S is a Tory/Lab marginal where he had a v slim 400-ish majority How about a Labour party full of naked opportunists?

Northernhibee
19-01-2022, 01:07 PM
Bury S is a Tory/Lab marginal where he had a v slim 400-ish majority How about a Labour party full of naked opportunists?

Best thing is simply for there not to be a Tory government. If Labour win a decent majority and can afford to ship out anyone who won't tow the party line then it's not an issue. Even better if they rely on a coallition and PR is put in place.

JeMeSouviens
19-01-2022, 01:16 PM
Best thing is simply for there not to be a Tory government. If Labour win a decent majority and can afford to ship out anyone who won't tow the party line then it's not an issue. Even better if they rely on a coallition and PR is put in place.

:agree:

They should have a one off Lab/Lib/Grn electoral pact to do exactly that. They won't, of course, because far too many in Lab would rather hang on for their 5 years out of every 20 majority. :rolleyes:

Ozyhibby
19-01-2022, 01:24 PM
:agree:

They should have a one off Lab/Lib/Grn electoral pact to do exactly that. They won't, of course, because far too many in Lab would rather hang on for their 5 years out of every 20 majority. :rolleyes:

PR is not good for Labour. FPTP is how they keep the Labour Party together. If we had PR the Labour Party would split into many parts.
And that’s without the difficulty of a union where some parties only stand in certain countries.
I’m for PR but it’s not without its difficulties and it’s hard to see how they can be reconciled.


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Northernhibee
19-01-2022, 01:41 PM
:agree:

They should have a one off Lab/Lib/Grn electoral pact to do exactly that. They won't, of course, because far too many in Lab would rather hang on for their 5 years out of every 20 majority. :rolleyes:

There's every chance that if Labour win most seats in an election but don't have an overall majority than their choice for a coalition will either fall for a second indy ref or a second vote on changing our voting system. I wonder which way they'd fall?

overdrive
19-01-2022, 01:44 PM
Works well for flu though, and we're hardly seeing any flu this winter. A covid silver lining?

(Edit - soz, thought I was on the covid thread there)

Again, sorry for going off topic, but that's probably got more to do with more people getting the flu vaccine

JeMeSouviens
19-01-2022, 02:15 PM
Again, sorry for going off topic, but that's probably got more to do with more people getting the flu vaccine

Good point.

JeMeSouviens
19-01-2022, 02:17 PM
Back on topic - saw a wee story about our beloved PM on twitter.

Seemingly the famous photo of him stuck on the zip wire looking even more of a total p***k than usual came about because he lied about his weight so the counterweight they put on for him wasn't big enough. ****.

greenlex
19-01-2022, 02:46 PM
…to cheers from the Labour benches, apparently forgetting that ****bag’s appalling voting record. It just spreads the poison into the Labour Party and further dilutes any radicalism or a desire to change the way this country is.

i don’t want a Labour Party full of Tories thanks.
we are a bit late for that.

speedy_gonzales
19-01-2022, 03:03 PM
Back on topic - saw a wee story about our beloved PM on twitter.

Seemingly the famous photo of him stuck on the zip wire looking even more of a total p***k than usual came about because he lied about his weight so the counterweight they put on for him wasn't big enough. ****.

Possibly, but there's strong rumours that it was all a set up, no such thing as bad publicity.
Story goes the two guys running the kit were asked if anyone ever got stuck halfway, they answered no/never. They were then asked to make it happen.
Not long after, a woman rode the same zip wire ride and jokingly said she hoped she wouldn't get stuck like "Boris", the operators told her that if anyone had got accidentally stuck, they'd have had to shut the ride down for an H&S inspection. That didn't happen.

Everyone thinks Boris is a clown but the reality is a lot of it is staged, he's a dangerous individual that doesn't recognise the gravitas of his position. Everything is a joke or a media opportunity.

stu in nottingham
19-01-2022, 03:45 PM
Well I’ll still be sticking on the mask in shops and busses.

I’ll give it a miss in the pub.

J

Ditto. Will continue to wear a mask on public transport, in shops and in busy enclosed areas.

lapsedhibee
19-01-2022, 04:10 PM
Everyone thinks Boris is a clown

Not everyone. There's plenty of other words that begin with a c.

Cockwomble, for example.

JeMeSouviens
19-01-2022, 05:06 PM
Possibly, but there's strong rumours that it was all a set up, no such thing as bad publicity.
Story goes the two guys running the kit were asked if anyone ever got stuck halfway, they answered no/never. They were then asked to make it happen.
Not long after, a woman rode the same zip wire ride and jokingly said she hoped she wouldn't get stuck like "Boris", the operators told her that if anyone had got accidentally stuck, they'd have had to shut the ride down for an H&S inspection. That didn't happen.

Everyone thinks Boris is a clown but the reality is a lot of it is staged, he's a dangerous individual that doesn't recognise the gravitas of his position. Everything is a joke or a media opportunity.

Here's the image that went with the tweet - from a book about London Parks by Hunter Davies.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJeI_aGXoAotWrn?format=jpg&name=large

Whatever, he's still a ****.

speedy_gonzales
19-01-2022, 05:27 PM
Here's the image that went with the tweet - from a book about London Parks by Hunter Davies.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJeI_aGXoAotWrn?format=jpg&name=large

Whatever, he's still a ****.

Fair enough, something as simple as an incorrect weight, enough to cause such a show sounds even more like a staged opportunity to me rather than a failure down to vanity.

Jack
19-01-2022, 05:57 PM
After calling for Bozos resignation will DRoss need to resign if Bozo survives?

Ozyhibby
19-01-2022, 06:57 PM
After calling for Bozos resignation will DRoss need to resign if Bozo survives?

No way will either resign. Half hope Johnson survives just so I can watch Ross’s discomfort though.


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lapsedhibee
19-01-2022, 08:00 PM
What a car crash Hoyle is as a Speaker at PMQs. His only input seems to be "I want to hear the questions and the Prime Minister's answers" and he's willing to say that a lot, but never do anything about the absolute rammy that goes on regardless.

Callum_62
19-01-2022, 10:15 PM
https://twitter.com/fr4ser/status/1483862636068487168?t=qHWdNmd454jEgH3QASyrWg&s=19

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grunt
20-01-2022, 09:28 AM
Government whips accused of blackmail - by senior Tory

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1484107937132032001?s=20

Callum_62
20-01-2022, 09:47 AM
Government whips accused of blackmail - by senior Tory

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1484107937132032001?s=20Has anyone told them it's blackmail though?

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Ozyhibby
20-01-2022, 12:00 PM
Has anyone told them it's blackmail though?

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Doesn’t really matter though as the Met can’t investigate because this happened yesterday.


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Steven79
20-01-2022, 12:01 PM
Doesn’t really matter though as the Met can’t investigate because this happened yesterday.


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Bostonhibby
20-01-2022, 12:06 PM
Doesn’t really matter though as the Met can’t investigate because this happened yesterday.


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Met can't investigate as they won't be able to find the Houses of Parliament, maybe one for Sherlock Holmes.

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LunasBoots
20-01-2022, 01:40 PM
Government whips accused of blackmail - by senior Tory

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1484107937132032001?s=20

As we all knew,the most corrupt government we have seen. The things they get away with is ridiculous.

Stairway 2 7
20-01-2022, 01:47 PM
Ken Clarke
@MrKennethClarke
I do feel sorry for all the remainers who are struggling with the cost of living crisis. They didn’t vote to be poorer

Jim44
20-01-2022, 04:59 PM
I can’t understand the mentality of Tories. Until yesterday the sensible ones were shaping up to give BJ a vote of no confidence. The defection of the Tory guy to Labour seems to have changed their mind and now they appear to be going to rally round the muppet.

lapsedhibee
20-01-2022, 05:26 PM
I can’t understand the mentality of Tories. Until yesterday the sensible ones were shaping up to give BJ a vote of no confidence. The defection of the Tory guy to Labour seems to have changed their mind and now they appear to be going to rally round the muppet.

Maybe something to do with public schoolboy Honour Codes?

grunt
20-01-2022, 05:36 PM
Ken Clarke
@MrKennethClarke
I do feel sorry for all the remainers who are struggling with the cost of living crisis. They didn’t vote to be poorer:greengrin A very believable parody account.

Scorrie
20-01-2022, 05:40 PM
Doesn’t really matter though as the Met can’t investigate because this happened yesterday.


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Must be rubbish being in the Met Cold Case unit

Killiehibbie
20-01-2022, 05:49 PM
Doesn’t really matter though as the Met can’t investigate because this happened yesterday.


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If those police boxes really are for Timelords maybe they've already been there and done that.

cabbageandribs1875
21-01-2022, 04:52 PM
well said this Dragon..

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/269609009_10228130674474591_9192711779656245034_n. jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=vmgR_BWkhk4AX_XfG_A&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT9Fsk9OqSsiV4mWynBqBCnhzyokM-mXOthwLL8_Bup0fw&oe=61EF5ED9

Callum_62
21-01-2022, 04:56 PM
https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1484570665080471555?t=23oR8cLIfGoNBreqYJOjlQ&s=19

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Radium
22-01-2022, 07:48 PM
https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1484960561263693828?s=21

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ronaldo7
22-01-2022, 07:59 PM
https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1484960561263693828?s=21

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Church of England accepted only.

Jack
22-01-2022, 08:37 PM
Church of England accepted only.

Bank of England accepted only!

Radium
22-01-2022, 10:17 PM
Telegraph and Sunday Times both carrying stories tomorrow. The levels of infighting will leave scars but I am sure we will continue to have a stream of ministers sent out to tell us there’s nothing to see …

… Frank Dreben and a firework factory coming to mind

https://twitter.com/sophyridgesky/status/1484952518287400968?s=21


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The Harp Awakes
23-01-2022, 01:36 AM
Here we go, the latest attempt by the corrupt Tories to deflect the attention away from their sleaze:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60095459

Just like Thatcher did with the Falklands war.

Crunchie
23-01-2022, 07:56 AM
Here we go, the latest attempt by the corrupt Tories to deflect the attention away from their sleaze:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60095459

Just like Thatcher did with the Falklands war.
Should they just turn a blind eye to the Russian activity? I'm sure you'd be all over the silence if that was the case.

Just Alf
23-01-2022, 08:11 AM
Here we go, the latest attempt by the corrupt Tories to deflect the attention away from their sleaze:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60095459

Just like Thatcher did with the Falklands war.Indeed, this has been going for months, there was even a worry it would happen right after Christmas, wonder what's changed that the Government is now actively talking about it and pushing it up the public conscience

Crunchie
23-01-2022, 08:17 AM
Indeed, this has been going for months, there was even a worry it would happen right after Christmas, wonder what's changed that the Government is now actively talking about it and pushing it up the public conscience
Troops massing on the border carrying out military exercises might be a reason, negotiations have been going on behind the scenes for months they might think it's rime to ramp up public awareness.

hibsbollah
23-01-2022, 08:28 AM
Troops massing on the border carrying out military exercises might be a reason, negotiations have been going on behind the scenes for months they might think it's rime to ramp up public awareness.

I’m not sure you’ve read the article and appreciate the difference. The FO are pushing the line that the Russians have a man ready to take over Ukraine from the inside in a coup. Everyone else thinks this is impossible and a nonsense story and the threat to Ukraine is from outside invasion by Russian troops. Even when the Boris operation (or Rabb alone or wherever it’s actually coming from) is trying to be clever they can’t get the basics right.

Crunchie
23-01-2022, 08:43 AM
I’m not sure you’ve read the article and appreciate the difference. The FO are pushing the line that the Russians have a man ready to take over Ukraine from the inside in a coup. Everyone else thinks this is impossible and a nonsense story and the threat to Ukraine is from outside invasion by Russian troops. Even when the Boris operation (or Rabb alone or wherever it’s actually coming from) is trying to be clever they can’t get the basics right.
I read the article and understood it tyvm. Everyone else doesn't think it's impossible, it's another nonsense statement from you, you don't know what everyone else thinks but I actually believe you do in your own mind.

I also read the thread a few days ago when you were taught a lesson on the history of the conflict so I won't be taking what you say as fact that's for sure.

hibsbollah
23-01-2022, 08:54 AM
I read the article and understood it tyvm. Everyone else doesn't think it's impossible, it's another nonsense statement from you, you don't know what everyone else thinks but I actually believe you do in your own mind.

I also read the thread a few days ago when you were taught a lesson on the history of the conflict so I won't be taking what you say as fact that's for sure.

:faf: You can be as rude as you want, it doesn’t change the fact you don’t understand the difference between a coup and an invasion.

StevieC
23-01-2022, 08:56 AM
I’m not sure you’ve read the article and appreciate the difference. The FO are pushing the line that the Russians have a man ready to take over Ukraine from the inside in a coup. Everyone else thinks this is impossible and a nonsense story and the threat to Ukraine is from outside invasion by Russian troops. Even when the Boris operation (or Rabb alone or wherever it’s actually coming from) is trying to be clever they can’t get the basics right.

That’s the way I view it. Ukraine has its troubles, but it’s not some South American dictatorship that is wide open for a political coup and suddenly be under the control of Putin. That’s just bordering on the ridiculous.
The BBC reporting of the situation in Ukraine has been poor (bordering non-existent) from day one .. and I mean even before Maidan in 2014. Russian troops and weaponry have been in Eastern Ukraine for the last 8 years and the trench-like border around the annexed Donbas region sees regularly activity, shelling and loss of life.
Putin is actually under pressure just now after the Alexei Navalny situation and the leaked information about his palace and the corruption (where is the BBC reporting about that??). It doesn’t surprise me that military manoeuvres are being stepped up and allowing Russia/Putin to portray the situation as being under attack from the West. You can be pretty much guaranteed that Russian news channels will be full of stories of western troops massing in Ukraine about to mount an offensive on the Russian citizens of the Donbas and Crimea.

Crunchie
23-01-2022, 09:05 AM
:faf: You can be as rude as you want, it doesn’t change the fact you don’t understand the difference between a coup and an invasion.
There you go again with what you perceive as a fact, it's all in your head my friend. I apologise if you think I was being rude, I thought I was stating fact :greengrin

The Tubs
23-01-2022, 04:33 PM
That’s the way I view it. Ukraine has its troubles, but it’s not some South American dictatorship that is wide open for a political coup and suddenly be under the control of Putin. That’s just bordering on the ridiculous.
The BBC reporting of the situation in Ukraine has been poor (bordering non-existent) from day one .. and I mean even before Maidan in 2014. Russian troops and weaponry have been in Eastern Ukraine for the last 8 years and the trench-like border around the annexed Donbas region sees regularly activity, shelling and loss of life.
Putin is actually under pressure just now after the Alexei Navalny situation and the leaked information about his palace and the corruption (where is the BBC reporting about that??). It doesn’t surprise me that military manoeuvres are being stepped up and allowing Russia/Putin to portray the situation as being under attack from the West. You can be pretty much guaranteed that Russian news channels will be full of stories of western troops massing in Ukraine about to mount an offensive on the Russian citizens of the Donbas and Crimea.

I think most coups in South America were a result of US interventions, often against democracies. This is something which is unlikely to happen in Russia's backyard.

Ozyhibby
23-01-2022, 05:48 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/23/no-10-casts-boris-johnson-as-head-of-anti-russian-alliance-over-ukraine?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1642963003

Johnson almost certainly hoping Putin invades Ukraine.


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Bostonhibby
23-01-2022, 05:54 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/23/no-10-casts-boris-johnson-as-head-of-anti-russian-alliance-over-ukraine?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1642963003

Johnson almost certainly hoping Putin invades Ukraine.


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Putin will have a bit of a smirk to himself and carry on regardless with whatever he was going to do. Might even get one of the nasty parties many Russian donors and supporters to fire a shout across his bows..

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Kato
23-01-2022, 06:21 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/23/no-10-casts-boris-johnson-as-head-of-anti-russian-alliance-over-ukraine?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1642963003

Johnson almost certainly hoping Putin invades Ukraine.


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Dear lord, this idiot-baby-liar is in charge during the worst of times.

Also - a reminder that 2/3rds of Tory party financing originates in Russia.

Kato
23-01-2022, 08:22 PM
Government whips accused of blackmail - by senior Tory

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1484107937132032001?s=20

Has it occurred to anyone that the Tories who were first out the traps this weekend to support Johnson are the most compromised?

grunt
23-01-2022, 10:04 PM
https://twitter.com/darrenmccaffrey/status/1485374009441234951?s=21

NEW: @Telegraph reporting tonight: Asked how significant the material they had disclosed was, the source added: “Put it this way, if Boris Johnson is still Prime Minister by the end of the week, I’d be very surprised.”

Colr
24-01-2022, 07:05 AM
[emoji23]

Met can't investigate as they won't be able to find the Houses of Parliament, maybe one for Sherlock Holmes.

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There was a reason Complicity Dick was made a Dame. Services to keeping her mouth shut and protecting the establishment.

The wrong type of person to lead a police force.

stokesmessiah
24-01-2022, 11:25 AM
https://twitter.com/darrenmccaffrey/status/1485374009441234951?s=21

NEW: @Telegraph reporting tonight: Asked how significant the material they had disclosed was, the source added: “Put it this way, if Boris Johnson is still Prime Minister by the end of the week, I’d be very surprised.”

So the police knew about it all along then? Yet they won’t investigate it…..this country is totally broken.

DaveF
24-01-2022, 01:47 PM
I had a leaflet this morning from Sue Webber MSP and apart from her wearing a blue jacket in a photo and the blue lettering you will not find any trace of which party she represents.

Almost as if she is too embarrassed to mention it.

Hiber-nation
24-01-2022, 02:05 PM
I had a leaflet this morning from Sue Webber MSP and apart from her wearing a blue jacket in a photo and the blue lettering you will not find any trace of which party she represents.

Almost as if she is too embarrassed to mention it.

Got one the same from Jeremy Balfour. They must think we're buttoned up the back.

ACLeith
24-01-2022, 02:41 PM
Got one the same from Jeremy Balfour. They must think we're buttoned up the back.

Miles Briggs sent me one a fortnight ago, exactly the same. In a spirit of fairness, I should mention also got one from labour, the party was mentioned in relatively small print on the back, the same phrase, minus the party name, in large print on the front.

I did read them, I didn't know they had achieved so much, must be in government

CropleyWasGod
24-01-2022, 04:49 PM
Now that's a resignation speech :greengrin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7ULZfjK9o8

Radium
24-01-2022, 05:04 PM
https://twitter.com/bbcpolitics/status/1485600061329489925?s=21

Don’t know why this makes me think of a red bus …


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grunt
24-01-2022, 05:19 PM
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/boris-johnson-had-birthday-bash-during-lockdown-itv-news- (https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/boris-johnson-had-birthday-bash-during-lockdown-itv-news-understands)

Boris Johnson had birthday bash during lockdown, ITV News understands

JeMeSouviens
24-01-2022, 05:53 PM
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/boris-johnson-had-birthday-bash-during-lockdown-itv-news- (https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/boris-johnson-had-birthday-bash-during-lockdown-itv-news-understands)

Boris Johnson had birthday bash during lockdown, ITV News understands

tbh, I think he’s now just trying to keep Sue Gray busy investigating until after the next election. :rolleyes:

lapsedhibee
24-01-2022, 06:07 PM
tbh, I think he’s now just trying to keep Sue Gray busy investigating until after the next election. :rolleyes:

And simultaneously desperately hoping for a war in Ukraine to start before any of her report comes out this week.

cabbageandribs1875
24-01-2022, 06:13 PM
And simultaneously desperately hoping for a war in Ukraine to start before any of her report comes out this week.



sure i read somewhere Big Dog can edit whatever he wants to in her report

ronaldo7
24-01-2022, 06:15 PM
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/boris-johnson-had-birthday-bash-during-lockdown-itv-news- (https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/boris-johnson-had-birthday-bash-during-lockdown-itv-news-understands)

Boris Johnson had birthday bash during lockdown, ITV News understands

He'll be furious when he finds out.

lapsedhibee
24-01-2022, 06:19 PM
sure i read somewhere Big Dog can edit whatever he wants to in her report

Nah. I heard Zahawi say Johnson was going to be completely transparent about everything. :faf:

cabbageandribs1875
24-01-2022, 06:25 PM
Nah. I heard Zahawi say Johnson was going to be completely transparent about everything. :faf:



someone leaked the edited report




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JeMeSouviens
24-01-2022, 06:48 PM
He'll be furious when he finds out.

As long as nobody told him it was his birthday, he’s in the clear as far as I can see. :dunno:

Radium
24-01-2022, 06:50 PM
https://twitter.com/borisjohnson/status/1241348429546217475?s=21

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Ozyhibby
24-01-2022, 07:40 PM
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1485705590420742144?s=21


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Northernhibee
24-01-2022, 07:43 PM
Whoever is drip feeding these stories I’m also very pissed off at. It’s clear there’s a huge dossier of info about these parties, but seeing as tens of thousands have died from this governments incompetence, just hand it over into the public eye. All of it. None of this bull**** drip feeding for whatever reason. It’s not a time for playing games.

Bostonhibby
24-01-2022, 07:49 PM
Whoever is drip feeding these stories I’m also very pissed off at. It’s clear there’s a huge dossier of info about these parties, but seeing as tens of thousands have died from this governments incompetence, just hand it over into the public eye. All of it. None of this bull**** drip feeding for whatever reason. It’s not a time for playing games.Problem might be that it will impact on whoever they are leaking in support of as next top nasty, so selective leaking is all everyone will ever get.

But let's face it with Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson they are shooting fish in a barrel.

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Hibrandenburg
24-01-2022, 08:24 PM
Whoever is drip feeding these stories I’m also very pissed off at. It’s clear there’s a huge dossier of info about these parties, but seeing as tens of thousands have died from this governments incompetence, just hand it over into the public eye. All of it. None of this bull**** drip feeding for whatever reason. It’s not a time for playing games.

It's the most effective way to destabilise this government. Drip feed the info and give them enough rope to hang themselves before exposing their pathetic lies from the previous revelations. There's more to come.

Ozyhibby
24-01-2022, 09:27 PM
It's the most effective way to destabilise this government. Drip feed the info and give them enough rope to hang themselves before exposing their pathetic lies from the previous revelations. There's more to come.

Besides, it may not all be from the same source.


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Colr
24-01-2022, 10:19 PM
Carrie Antionette “Let them eat cake!”

speedy_gonzales
24-01-2022, 11:11 PM
I had a leaflet this morning from Sue Webber MSP and apart from her wearing a blue jacket in a photo and the blue lettering you will not find any trace of which party she represents.

Almost as if she is too embarrassed to mention it.




Got one the same from Jeremy Balfour. They must think we're buttoned up the back.

I thought I read it here, but perhaps on FB, but is it because they are "List" MSP's?
Unsure what difference it makes....

JimBHibees
25-01-2022, 06:08 AM
I thought I read it here, but perhaps on FB, but is it because they are "List" MSP's?
Unsure what difference it makes....

They are still Tory list msps like Murdo Fraser

Ozyhibby
25-01-2022, 06:34 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220125/be32eab61e8123b4d0626f459935a21b.jpg

Sunak attended the birthday party. Probably helps Johnson if he gets dragged into this anyway.


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Keith_M
25-01-2022, 07:19 AM
...but he was only there for ten minutes, so it doesn't count.

hibsbollah
25-01-2022, 07:21 AM
There’s some unbelievable squirming going on here from wheeled out Tory Grant Shapps trying to defend the indefensible birthday party. Sue Grays remit has not been to look at criminality, he agrees, then is asked about how we define criminality in this case, then he says we must wait until Sue Grays report comes out :dunno:

To be fair to usually anodyne Justin Webb on the today programme is holding his feet over the flames. There are facts that are clear and indisputable, they are admitting they broke the law and don’t care.

Keith_M
25-01-2022, 07:31 AM
"Let's wait on the results of the inquiry."


...then after the inquiry...


"It's time to move on, lessons have been learned, let's Build Back Better."

Colr
25-01-2022, 07:50 AM
...but he was only there for ten minutes, so it doesn't count.

When they were singing Happy Birthday he thought they were following government advice for timing hand washing.

Bostonhibby
25-01-2022, 08:30 AM
When they were singing Happy Birthday he thought they were following government advice for timing hand washing.Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson is excellent at washing his hands of things, as a number of officials and civil servants are about to find out when he is finished editing Sue Gray's report.

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Radium
25-01-2022, 09:19 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220125/24e6a3f30d11a91a259c77fd2c962bbe.png

Now for the really long grass …

… can’t be discussed as it is now subject to an ongoing criminal investigation


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Northernhibee
25-01-2022, 09:19 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60123850

They took their time. Police to investigate Downing St. parties.

Ozyhibby
25-01-2022, 09:39 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60123850

They took their time. Police to investigate Downing St. parties.

This probably helps Johnson. He can hold back on the Gray report so as not to jeopardise police investigation.


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Steven79
25-01-2022, 09:40 AM
This probably helps Johnson. He can hold back on the Gray report so as not to jeopardise police investigation.


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The fact that people would still vote for that lot leaves me cold.

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Northernhibee
25-01-2022, 09:43 AM
This probably helps Johnson. He can hold back on the Gray report so as not to jeopardise police investigation.


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What gives me hope is that what is good for Johnson isn't good for the Tory party. He's toxic and the longer he's in power the more he infects.

Sylar
25-01-2022, 09:44 AM
This probably helps Johnson. He can hold back on the Gray report so as not to jeopardise police investigation.


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https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1485924002241654784

Confirmed.

Bostonhibby
25-01-2022, 10:03 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60123850

They took their time. Police to investigate Downing St. parties.Their elite find the elephant in a phone box team have been 24 hours a day in a phone box for months.

Having concluded that there are no elephants present they are now free to devote 100% of their efforts to investigating this matter where the evidence is right in front of them.

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JeMeSouviens
25-01-2022, 10:21 AM
So what's the plan now?

Long delay.
Met don't find enough evidence to prosecute.
Case dropped.
Gray report mostly covered up.
New mantra - "The police cleared him therefore it's all fine."

Might get him to the local elections I suppose.

JeMeSouviens
25-01-2022, 10:28 AM
Philip Sim @BBCPhilipSim

The year is 2029, and sources claim a pirate-themed party was held at Downing Street the previous summer while the country was locked down by the Ziltoid variant. The Coastguard launch an investigation and Sue Gray's report is pushed back another month

He's quite funny is Philip.

Ozyhibby
25-01-2022, 02:22 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220125/9bfbcdc71c98a357df876ba68606c7af.jpg

Wonder if the Met were hoping that he would be an ex PM so as to make their investigation easier?


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James310
25-01-2022, 03:50 PM
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1486015473359724546?t=Qr82VJnXvplTkOG4vCR_Cw&s=19

NEW: Sources tell me that No 10 is now expecting Sue Gray report at some point TONIGHT.

On a day of timetable twists and turns, the final decision on publication is in hands of PM.

But expectation is it will be released in full.

JimBHibees
25-01-2022, 04:27 PM
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1486015473359724546?t=Qr82VJnXvplTkOG4vCR_Cw&s=19

NEW: Sources tell me that No 10 is now expecting Sue Gray report at some point TONIGHT.

On a day of timetable twists and turns, the final decision on publication is in hands of PM.

But expectation is it will be released in full.

What a banana republic we live in. Publication is in the hands of the PM lol

James310
25-01-2022, 05:24 PM
What a banana republic we live in. Publication is in the hands of the PM lol

That's normal isn't it, just the process as the report was commissioned by Downing Street so it's handed to Downing Street.

The James Hamilton report was in the hands of the Scottish Government/FM before it was published (and redacted for legal reasons)

It's not like he will turn round and say he is just not going to publish it, then again...

hibsbollah
25-01-2022, 05:29 PM
24 hour party people.
If the Tories were a music genre they’d be Madchester. Or Alan McGee and those Creation records boys.
They were quite literally caning it.
The difference is, Bez and Shaun Ryder weren’t writing to 7 year olds telling them they’re not allowed to have their little mates round on their birthdays.

Bostonhibby
25-01-2022, 05:35 PM
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1486029913387933697?t=vIroV3AgfML1efaI1yVVJg&s=08

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neil7908
25-01-2022, 06:09 PM
So what's the plan now?

Long delay.
Met don't find enough evidence to prosecute.
Case dropped.
Gray report mostly covered up.
New mantra - "The police cleared him therefore it's all fine."

Might get him to the local elections I suppose.

The mantra above is definitely what they will run with. I think they are happy enough it's going to the Met as they won't bother to bring any charges.

So Boris et al will use that to tell us it was all fine, polis haven't charged anyone so that's it, time to move on. Then they'll pick another fight with the EU, close BBC etc.

grunt
25-01-2022, 06:12 PM
The mantra above is definitely what they will run with. I think they are happy enough it's going to the Met as they won't bother to bring any charges.

So Boris et al will use that to tell us it was all fine, polis haven't charged anyone so that's it, time to move on. Then they'll pick another fight with the EU, close BBC etc.
There's talk of the Gray report being issued tomorrow ...

lapsedhibee
25-01-2022, 06:15 PM
Burns: "The Prime Minister was ambushed with a cake" :crazy:

Steven79
25-01-2022, 06:31 PM
There's talk of the Gray report being issued tomorrow ...Someone should leak it...

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Radium
25-01-2022, 07:02 PM
https://twitter.com/channel4news/status/1486059266633043973?s=21


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Kato
25-01-2022, 07:38 PM
https://twitter.com/channel4news/status/1486059266633043973?s=21



I wonder if he is one of the MP's being blackmailed?

Does any interviewer think to mention the the birthday bash wasn't the only party?

cabbageandribs1875
25-01-2022, 08:10 PM
i don't think this is photo-shopped


https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272643169_10217530746774832_6964222301740960801_n. jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=vBJ5jp9A7_8AX8zio9B&tn=vIvSFNl06GFFe0Qb&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT9z8iNNmzOqrpHkyDFn4bJMNBOKL1SnD6WeQrC5PnNf hQ&oe=61F64DC7

Radium
25-01-2022, 08:29 PM
i don't think this is photo-shopped


https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272643169_10217530746774832_6964222301740960801_n. jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=vBJ5jp9A7_8AX8zio9B&tn=vIvSFNl06GFFe0Qb&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT9z8iNNmzOqrpHkyDFn4bJMNBOKL1SnD6WeQrC5PnNf hQ&oe=61F64DC7

Preferred the one with Douglas Ross appearing from the cake…


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JeMeSouviens
25-01-2022, 09:19 PM
Burns: "The Prime Minister was ambushed with a cake" :crazy:

“We were overrun. There were hundreds and thousands of them.”

Bostonhibby
25-01-2022, 09:34 PM
“We were overrun. There were hundreds and thousands of them.”Surrounded by fruit cakes I heard.

Or to keep the deflections going and the brexiteers onside maybe he was held hostage by a battenburg or disabled by a french fancy?

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Radium
25-01-2022, 09:44 PM
https://twitter.com/omid9/status/1485741600131190784?s=21


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hibsbollah
25-01-2022, 10:07 PM
Surrounded by fruit cakes I heard.

Or to keep the deflections going and the brexiteers onside maybe he was held hostage by a battenburg or disabled by a french fancy?

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If this thread goes down a German Biscuit/Empire Biscuit/Belgian Biscuit route I swear I’ll do time :grr:

Ozyhibby
25-01-2022, 10:10 PM
Rees-Mogg now saying if Johnson goes there needs to be a GE.


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NORTHERNHIBBY
25-01-2022, 10:18 PM
Rees-Mogg now saying if Johnson goes there needs to be a GE.


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That's quite a shrewd move. Tory MPs who don't have large majorities will revert to type and suddenly not be so principled after all.

Jones28
26-01-2022, 05:45 AM
Rees-Mogg now saying if Johnson goes there needs to be a GE.


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Hahaha fine, no bother Jacob. How many points ahead are Labour in the polls again?

Colr
26-01-2022, 06:12 AM
He’s spent a lot of his own money on that wallpaper. Do you think it’s removable so he can take it with him?

Steven79
26-01-2022, 06:37 AM
He’s spent a lot of his own money on that wallpaper. Do you think it’s removable so he can take it with him?Wasn't his money...

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Colr
26-01-2022, 06:39 AM
Burns: "The Prime Minister was ambushed with a cake" :crazy:

Oh crumbs! This could could all end in tiers.

Colr
26-01-2022, 06:40 AM
Wasn't his money...

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Well, it wasn’t. Then it was. But then, he might have been lying.

hibsbollah
26-01-2022, 07:19 AM
Liz Truss rocking her ‘Iron Lady’ credentials on Today. The Russians should be really really scared of the sanctions, the details of which she is not going to specify.

Moulin Yarns
26-01-2022, 07:38 AM
Liz Truss rocking her ‘Iron Lady’ credentials on Today. The Russians should be really really scared of the sanctions, the details of which she is not going to specify.

Maybe we will stop taking oil and gas from Russia, that'll show them!

Colr
26-01-2022, 07:39 AM
Maybe we will stop taking oil and gas from Russia, that'll show them!

https://twitter.com/patrickwintour/status/1486245779182399488?s=21

Kato
26-01-2022, 08:57 AM
https://twitter.com/patrickwintour/status/1486245779182399488?s=21It's been happening right in front of everyone's eyes. £2M in donations from Russians to the Tory party since the 2019 election alone. The fact that Johnson suppressed the report into "Russian interference" into UK politics should have alarm bells ringing in the security services but nowt happens.

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Ozyhibby
26-01-2022, 09:26 AM
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/who-cares-about-partygate-


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grunt
26-01-2022, 09:33 AM
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/who-cares-about-partygate-
Please provide a warning to readers next time you link to a Brendan O'Neill article.
Thanks.

hibsbollah
26-01-2022, 09:33 AM
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/who-cares-about-partygate-


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Its an incredible article, what you'd expect from RT, the Peoples Daily or Korea Today.



"The Boris-bashers of the cultural and media elites, of the BBC and the Twitterati, of the Corbynista and Guardianista sets... they know an opportunity when they see one...Enough. This has to stop. Did government officials break the rules? Sure. Whatever. Who cares? The media and activist obsession with breaking Boris, Brexit and our democratic wishes is far more offensive and dangerous."

McSwanky
26-01-2022, 09:40 AM
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/who-cares-about-partygate-


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Jeez. At least he didn't use the word 'cake' though.

McSwanky
26-01-2022, 09:52 AM
https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1486042072117354497

Smartie
26-01-2022, 10:01 AM
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/who-cares-about-partygate-


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The "who cares" is the important part here. Maybe they shouldn't care (and you could argue that war looming in Ukraine is more important than Boris Johnson having a nice wee birthday party and a bit of cake) but folk have had a tough few years. It bothers them (whether they may have voted for the man or not) that the sacrifices they made and the rules that were imposed upon them were not applied to those in charge. There was very strong depth of feeling at the time and that hasn't subsided since.

That's the main reason why the article is absolute nonsense.

JeMeSouviens
26-01-2022, 10:08 AM
The "who cares" is the important part here. Maybe they shouldn't care (and you could argue that war looming in Ukraine is more important than Boris Johnson having a nice wee birthday party and a bit of cake) but folk have had a tough few years. It bothers them (whether they may have voted for the man or not) that the sacrifices they made and the rules that were imposed upon them were not applied to those in charge. There was very strong depth of feeling at the time and that hasn't subsided since.

That's the main reason why the article is absolute nonsense.

I couldn't give a **** about cakes.

I give a **** that the PM thinks it's ok to write laws for the country then ignore them for himself and his chums. I give a **** that we could conceivably be about to go to war led by a moron I wouldn't trust to run a bath with a proven record of "integrity" that would make a Borgia blush.

Bostonhibby
26-01-2022, 10:08 AM
Maybe we will stop taking oil and gas from Russia, that'll show them!She could get Sevco / union bears to write one of their strongly worded statements?

On her stumbling performance on BBC this morning it's easy to see why the Russians won't let anything we have to say influence their actions.

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neil7908
26-01-2022, 10:57 AM
Its an incredible article, what you'd expect from RT, the Peoples Daily or Korea Today.



"The Boris-bashers of the cultural and media elites, of the BBC and the Twitterati, of the Corbynista and Guardianista sets... they know an opportunity when they see one...Enough. This has to stop. Did government officials break the rules? Sure. Whatever. Who cares? The media and activist obsession with breaking Boris, Brexit and our democratic wishes is far more offensive and dangerous."




Proper scary stuff. If he's so desperate for democracy to prevail, let's have an election to make sure the will of the people is being heard.

degenerated
26-01-2022, 11:19 AM
24 hour party people.
If the Tories were a music genre they’d be Madchester. Or Alan McGee and those Creation records boys.
They were quite literally caning it.
The difference is, Bez and Shaun Ryder weren’t writing to 7 year olds telling them they’re not allowed to have their little mates round on their birthdays.Was it a party? 25496

Colr
26-01-2022, 12:01 PM
Another lie revealed in case you missed it
https://twitter.com/adambienkov/status/1486319621040967686?s=21

Ozyhibby
26-01-2022, 12:07 PM
Johnson had a go at Blackford for being overweight today at PMQ’s. That ok these days?


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Bostonhibby
26-01-2022, 12:08 PM
Another lie revealed in case you missed it
https://twitter.com/adambienkov/status/1486319621040967686?s=21Can't keep up, wouldn't it be easier if we just posted true verifiable stuff that stays that way for, say 5 days, from the mouth of Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson?

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Tobias Funke
26-01-2022, 12:09 PM
Johnson had a go at Blackford for being overweight today at PMQ’s. That ok these days?


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BJ is a bit of a fat canute himself. Mind you he is so deluded he probably thinks has the body of a temple.

Jones28
26-01-2022, 12:16 PM
Johnson had a go at Blackford for being overweight today at PMQ’s. That ok these days?


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No, but thats Boris Johnson.

James OBrians phone in today was all about what the worst thing he's done:

Illegally proroguing Parliament
His affair with Jennifer Arcturi and subsequent favoritism she recieved
The big red Brexit bus
Attempting to get someone beaten up by a hit man
Writing two articles on the eve of Brexit and publishing whichever one went with the result
Taking out an actual child, during a game of touch rugby. And then rugby tackling someone during a charity football game
Lying about the Good Friday agreement and Northern Ireland
Flouting COVID rules imposed by his own government
Not taking COVID seriously enough quickly enough, nearly dying from it and STILL going on to flout the restrictions.
Calling on Parliament to "Get Brexit done" to honour Jo Cox MP

Plus others: feel free to add to the list.

Ozyhibby
26-01-2022, 03:00 PM
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Bostonhibby
26-01-2022, 03:53 PM
So Doggate, who is lying in addition to Alexander Boris de Pfeffel who just generally is.

Ben Wallace, Defence Secretary or Liz Truss the foreign secretary?

Or is this just the general culture combined with the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing?



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Crunchie
26-01-2022, 04:55 PM
Johnson had a go at Blackford for being overweight today at PMQ’s. That ok these days?


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I think BBB should have a thick enough skin to take an insult or 2 considering some of the stuff he's come out with. What did Boris say exactly? any footage out there, I could do with a laugh :greengrin

Crunchie
26-01-2022, 05:45 PM
I think BBB should have a thick enough skin to take an insult or 2 considering some of the stuff he's come out with. What did Boris say exactly? any footage out there, I could do with a laugh :greengrin
Just saw it on the news, can't believe you're offended by that one Oz.

Rumble de Thump
26-01-2022, 08:08 PM
It's really creepy that people still try to defend Boris Johnson in any way. It's hard to imagine there's ever been a worse Prime Minister.

Crunchie
27-01-2022, 04:28 AM
It's really creepy that people still try to defend Boris Johnson in any way. It's hard to imagine there's ever been a worse Prime Minister.
Creepy? I wouldn't go that far, but I can't think of a worse PM in my time I'll grant you that. Then again none of them have had to deal with a pandemic or Brexit.