Tories are still lying *******s

[Radium]

https://twitter.com/paulbranditv/status/1480596421766176769?s=21

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[Col2]

https://twitter.com/paulbranditv/status/1480596421766176769?s=21

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You have to wonder if this is the incident that will make him go. The rage pre Xmas on this type of stuff was huge, this is arguably the worst example.

Have people moved on now or will constituents lose the plot with MPs.

[Ozyhibby]

You have to wonder if this is the incident that will make him go. The rage pre Xmas on this type of stuff was huge, this is arguably the worst example.

Have people moved on now or will constituents lose the plot with MPs.

He’s Teflon. He’s appointed his own investigator again who’ll give him another pass.


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[hibsbollah]

You have to wonder if this is the incident that will make him go. The rage pre Xmas on this type of stuff was huge, this is arguably the worst example.

Have people moved on now or will constituents lose the plot with MPs.

It’s from his own ****ing PPS :grr: There is no way in the world the PMs own PPS could have the authority to do that without the PMs own authority?!

It’s as if they are trying to see how much they can get away with.

I know Corbyn would have fellatioed a goat while chanting anti Semitic devil worshipping tropes while having a covid restriction busting party if he was in charge, i mean thank god it’s not that Russian oligarch loving nutcase but still, Boris must have some questions to answer, no?

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Bojo on the News at Ten laughing when being asked about this story. Does anyone I wonder, still not get it?

[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1480663840559935495?t=mbEP4X2lNAyS_hJGcDkIkQ&s=19

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[The Harp Awakes]

Bojo on the News at Ten laughing when being asked about this story. Does anyone I wonder, still not get it?

Saw that. He's certainly the teflon man, but not so sure the cheshire cat grin is going to go down too well, even in deepest Englandshire.

[Colr]

He’s Teflon. He’s appointed his own investigator again who’ll give him another pass.


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The police would have known this as guard number 10. I see they are “liasing” with the cabinet office rather than investigating. I recall these parties were taking place at the same time plod were driving round our local park threatening people and telling them to go home.

The Met knew what was happening at Downing Street. How can they be trusted?

Cressida Dick must have been made a Dame by Johnson for services to keeping your mouth shut!

[Colr]

Saw that. He's certainly the teflon man, but not so sure the cheshire cat grin is going to go down too well, even in deepest Englandshire.

The English are bound by class. They believe anything that’s said in a posh acccent.

[LunasBoots]

Bojo on the News at Ten laughing when being asked about this story. Does anyone I wonder, still not get it?

At least we now have a idea of how Bojo and other cabinet members caught Covid at the time, just a shame nothing will be done about it as they are in a different league to other ministers who laws do apply to.

[Steven79]

The English are bound by class. They believe anything that’s said in a posh acccent.Having lived down in England for a number of years I completely agree with you.

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[grunt]

At least we now have a idea of how Bojo and other cabinet members caught Covid at the time, just a shame nothing will be done about it as they are in a different league to other ministers who laws do apply to.This party took place a month *after* Johnson was allegedly in intensive care suffering from Covid. He seems to have recovered very quickly.

[SHODAN]

If he doesn't go over this then that's it, Tory PMs can literally do anything.

[Northernhibee]

Am I the only one who hopes he doesn't go straight away? Sunak terrifies me, and every time a new scandal like this comes out the more they slip in the polls.

The longer this goes on, the more in the Tory party are involved and tarnished with it.

[JeMeSouviens]

Baroness Ruth peeks out from behind the ermine:

https://twitter.com/emilyvbrown/status/1480854525175078913

He must be reckoned toast if she's feeling free to start her pitch to the next incumbent. :rolleyes:

[neil7908]

Am I the only one who hopes he doesn't go straight away? Sunak terrifies me, and every time a new scandal like this comes out the more they slip in the polls.

The longer this goes on, the more in the Tory party are involved and tarnished with it.

Agreed. I think we are far enough from the next election that if Johnson goes now, Sunak will have time to come in and repair the damage, and it will all be forgiven by the electorate.

[Colr]

This party took place a month *after* Johnson was allegedly in intensive care suffering from Covid. He seems to have recovered very quickly.

Hmmm. When was he in hospital?

[JeMeSouviens]

Be interesting to see how many Tory backbenchers turn out for PMQs tomorrow.

[Hibrandenburg]

Hmmm. When was he in hospital?

April 2020

[Radium]

Agreed. I think we are far enough from the next election that if Johnson goes now, Sunak will have time to come in and repair the damage, and it will all be forgiven by the electorate.

Was Sunak next door during the party season at No 10.

Gove’s absence in recent months is probably telling (or is he still on the dance floor)


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[Ozyhibby]

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[gbhibby]

Watching Michael Fabricant on sky news trying to defend the actions of the Tories having their parties at Downing Street. You cannot tell the public to obey rules and then break the rules. Boris must go now and others who broke the rules be dealt with accordingly. Their arrogance is beyond belief.

[JeMeSouviens]

Watching Michael Fabricant on sky news trying to defend the actions of the Tories having their parties at Downing Street. You cannot tell the public to obey rules and then break the rules. Boris must go now and others who broke the rules be dealt with accordingly. Their arrogance is beyond belief.

You know they're absolutely scraping the barrel when Syrup boy is the only one who'll go on telly to defend him. :greengrin

[gbhibby]

You know they're absolutely scraping the barrel when Syrup boy is the only one who'll go on telly to defend him. :greengrin
Wigs still present in the house of commons.😁

Have been impressed by Douglas Ross and Ruth Davidson on their stances on this issue they are exasperated at the way their party (sorry for the pun) at no 10 and in the Parliament are acting.

[gbhibby]

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Farage saying Andy Murray is filled with prejudice is beyond belief. We are in the 💩💩 because of his prejudicial views

[Bostonhibby]

Farage saying Andy Murray is filled with prejudice is beyond belief. We are in the [emoji90][emoji90] because of his prejudicial viewsNasty Nigel trying to remain relevant. He works for GB News for a reason.

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[gbhibby]

Nasty Nigel trying to remain relevant. He works for GB News for a reason.

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GB news,I need to change my username 😁

[Bostonhibby]

GB news,I need to change my username [emoji16][emoji16]
You'll get more viewers than them.

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[Radium]

Watching Michael Fabricant on sky news trying to defend the actions of the Tories having their parties at Downing Street. You cannot tell the public to obey rules and then break the rules. Boris must go now and others who broke the rules be dealt with accordingly. Their arrogance is beyond belief.

https://twitter.com/bbcpolitics/status/1480867071944704000?s=21


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[cabbageandribs1875]

ach some scousers are ok i guess :)

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[Jim44]

I notice that Johnson is apologising for the upset ‘which the allegations have caused’ and not the upset ‘which their actions have caused’. Smoke screening the issue and expecting to be cleared of any misdoing, which will be the case. He appears to be unscrupulously untouchable.

[NYHibby]

It’s from his own ****ing PPS :grr: There is no way in the world the PMs own PPS could have the authority to do that without the PMs own authority?!

It’s as if they are trying to see how much they can get away with.


I’m a Whitehall based civil servant. I’ve seen the same take as you on twitter, but I disagree. If I received the same email from my SoS’s PS, I would assume that the “we” in the email referred to the private office as a group and that they were inviting people from the wider department. If the invite had anything to do with the SoS, it would say so. You can’t automatically assume any minister is directly involved in their staff’s social events.

[Ozyhibby]

I’m a Whitehall based civil servant. I’ve seen the same take as you on twitter, but I disagree. If I received the same email from my SoS’s PS, I would assume that the “we” in the email referred to the private office as a group and that they were inviting people from the wider department. If the invite had anything to do with the SoS, it would say so. You can’t automatically assume any minister is directly involved in their staff’s social events.

But if he is there then it’s a slam dunk, surely?


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[Ozyhibby]

I’ve always said this guy is Teflon and nothing will stop him but I’m beginning to waver. I have a sneaky suspicious that he’ll be gone before PMQ’s tomorrow. No evidence or anything, just feel it’s inevitable now and he will want to avoid one more embarrassment.


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[JeMeSouviens]

I’ve always said this guy is Teflon and nothing will stop him but I’m beginning to waver. I have a sneaky suspicious that he’ll be gone before PMQ’s tomorrow. No evidence or anything, just feel it’s inevitable now and he will want to avoid one more embarrassment.


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Polls turning against him and Tories panicking about them will stop him, nothing else.

[NYHibby]

But if he is there then it’s a slam dunk, surely?


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Are you talking about slam dunk that he planned it or just did not stop it from going ahead? Although in these circumstances there may not be much of a difference between the two in terms of an error in judgment.

It is possible that a PO organises something, the minister happens to walk by and then decides to stick his head in for a moment (thank people for their hard work, etc…).

[Colr]

Watching Michael Fabricant on sky news trying to defend the actions of the Tories having their parties at Downing Street. You cannot tell the public to obey rules and then break the rules. Boris must go now and others who broke the rules be dealt with accordingly. Their arrogance is beyond belief.

Has any EVER tried to grab that man’s hair? There’s no way it’s real.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Who’s really leading Britain – Boris Johnson or the crazy-face emoji? | Marina Hyde | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/11/britain-boris-johnson-lockdown-gathering-public?fbclid=IwAR1mW-nfLKzeE5fCNws-Ze3FMHNrRiLimei8Fh6g-vu4npToLxA7AgFkrWc)


I’m afraid the only sane response to this is: what?! What are you even talking about? Did you or didn’t you go to a big party in your garden, you smirking fibreglass toby jug? Or do you also have to wait for some veteran civil servant to tell you whether or not you put your pants on the right way round this morning? Honestly mate, just MAN UP.


:faf:

[Ozyhibby]

Are you talking about slam dunk that he planned it or just did not stop it from going ahead? Although in these circumstances there may not be much of a difference between the two in terms of an error in judgment.

It is possible that a PO organises something, the minister happens to walk by and then decides to stick his head in for a moment (thank people for their hard work, etc…).

Instead of saying WTF is going on here, everybody out now? Because that’s the only thing that gets him off the hook here.


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[hibsbollah]

I’m a Whitehall based civil servant. I’ve seen the same take as you on twitter, but I disagree. If I received the same email from my SoS’s PS, I would assume that the “we” in the email referred to the private office as a group and that they were inviting people from the wider department. If the invite had anything to do with the SoS, it would say so. You can’t automatically assume any minister is directly involved in their staff’s social events.

I used to be a U.K. govt civil servant myself, although that does not in itself give you or I any particular unique insight on this situation which is so blatantly obvious. The PPS was acting on behalf of #10. If the PPS is acting in exclusion from his PM, arranging his own parties at Whitehall it would be the first time in recorded parliamentary history. It’s a ridiculous suggestion.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39dpF4b1MbY

[Alex Trager]

I’m a Whitehall based civil servant. I’ve seen the same take as you on twitter, but I disagree. If I received the same email from my SoS’s PS, I would assume that the “we” in the email referred to the private office as a group and that they were inviting people from the wider department. If the invite had anything to do with the SoS, it would say so. You can’t automatically assume any minister is directly involved in their staff’s social events.

That’s all fair and well, until the party is hosted at the PM’s house, surely?

[The Harp Awakes]

Farage saying Andy Murray is filled with prejudice is beyond belief. We are in the ���� because of his prejudicial views

The classic tactic of a racist - to falsely call the accuser a racist. Trump did it repeatedly and millions of his supporters loved him for it.

[Alex Trager]

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CYmZ5jtqu3Z/?utm_medium=share_sheet

Led by Donkeys as always superb

[Keith_M]

The classic tactic of a racist - to falsely call the accuser a racist. Trump did it repeatedly and millions of his supporters loved him for it.


Same as fans of The Rangers since 2012, calling everybody else bigots as a deflection tactic to their own bigotry

[gbhibby]

The classic tactic of a racist - to falsely call the accuser a racist. Trump did it repeatedly and millions of his supporters loved him for it.

Apparently his new pal Novak lied on his visa about overseas travel. Nigel is good at lying as well, would be at home in the Tory 🥳.

[hibsbollah]

PMQs will be worth watching today (not always the case).

[lapsedhibee]

PMQs will be worth watching today (not always the case).

It was his own garden, he was allowed to go and drink in it. He didn't know other people were going to be there, he was furious when he found out and left immediately after finishing his first couple of bottles of wine. He broke no rules, vaccine rollout, and the matter's closed.

[I'm_cabbaged]

PMQs will be worth watching today (not always the case).

What time does this start? I very rarely have the opportunity to watch it.
What gets me is surely the police knew that this party was happening?

[stu in nottingham]

What time does this start? I very rarely have the opportunity to watch it.
What gets me is surely the police knew that this party was happening?

It's at Midday.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/pmqs-today-time-when-boris-johnson-keir-starmer-prime-ministers-questions-live-stream-1395950

[JeMeSouviens]

What time does this start? I very rarely have the opportunity to watch it.
What gets me is surely the police knew that this party was happening?

:agree:

Suspect that's why the Met have steadfastly refused to investigate so far. Total embarrassment for them.

[hibsbollah]

It was his own garden, he was allowed to go and drink in it. He didn't know other people were going to be there, he was furious when he found out and left immediately after finishing his first couple of bottles of wine. He broke no rules, vaccine rollout, and the matter's closed.

I drink in my garden all the time. Who is anyone else to tell me when I can get pished in my own garden?

[SHODAN]

If Johnson resigns then hopefully proof gets out of which MPs attended parties. There'll be a fair few PM hopefuls who won't be standing in the leadership election.

[Since90+2]

:agree:

Suspect that's why the Met have steadfastly refused to investigate so far. Total embarrassment for them.

Yup.

I'd imagine there must be security protocols put into place when large gatherings take place in outdoor spaces at Number 10 (especially when the PM is in attendance).

The Met, or special branch atleast, would have known it was taking place. Although I do have some sympathy with special branch on this, they're not really there to enforce day to day law but rather ensure the protection of the PM and the building itself.

Still not a great look for them.

[blackpoolhibs]

Yup.

I'd imagine there must be security protocols put into place when large gatherings take place in outdoor spaces at Number 10. The Met, or special branch atleast, would have known it was taking place.

I agree, they should place a member of the police at the front door of 10 downing street to make sure it does not happen again.

[Scorrie]

I agree, they should place a member of the police at the front door of 10 downing street to make sure it does not happen again.

And ideally one that isn’t deaf and blind as well

[neil7908]

Use of ‘VIP lane’ to award Covid PPE contracts unlawful, high court rules

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/12/use-of-vip-lane-to-award-covid-ppe-contracts-unlawful-high-court-rules

[Northernhibee]

Use of ‘VIP lane’ to award Covid PPE contracts unlawful, high court rules

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/12/use-of-vip-lane-to-award-covid-ppe-contracts-unlawful-high-court-rules

That could be fascinating and I bet more than one Tory is up to their ears in this.

I wonder if Johnson will favour calling a GE over resigning. I wonder if his vanity would extend to that.

[Northernhibee]

Looks like Sunak isn't at PMQs today.

[JeMeSouviens]

Johnson "apologises" but still trying to pass the party off as a "work event" "technically within guidance". :rolleyes:

[hibsbollah]

He’s making a half apology here…’even if it’s technically within the rules’ NO ! That’s not the issue.

[Northernhibee]

That's almost beyond belief as a statement.

[hibsbollah]

I thank our NHS colleagues…

Please ask the **** about the Health and Welfare Bill which is selling the NHS off piece by piece.

[hibsbollah]

Resign! Says Keith.

[SHODAN]

Johnson sounds done.

[superfurryhibby]

Starmer is putting the boot in. Johnson is squirming like a worm on a hook.

Lies, lies, lies.

[Northernhibee]

This is much better from Starmer.

[hibsbollah]

‘Lying through his teeth’ says Starmer.

That’s no different to Dawn Butler calling him a liar, even if he puts in the prefix ‘the public think’.

[Peanut Shaz]

Boris looks rattled. Think he knows his time is up. Keir doing a good job so far.

[Sylar]

‘Lying through his teeth’ says Starmer.

That’s no different to Dawn Butler calling him a liar, even if he puts in the prefix ‘the public think’.

It's perfectly within house guidance because of that prefix. He's not accusing Johnson of lying.

[Northernhibee]

It's perfectly within house guidance because of that prefix. He's not accusing Johnson of lying.

Johnson replies along the lines of "It's up to the right honourable gentleman as to how he conducts himself" without a hint of irony.

Starmer and the front bench laugh in his face.

If this was a boxing match the towel would have been thrown in long before now. This is painful.

[hibsbollah]

It's perfectly within house guidance because of that prefix. He's not accusing Johnson of lying.

Well, he kind of is.
It’s a ridiculous rule that needs to be binned.

Boris an absolute liability. He must stay.

[Hibrandenburg]

‘Lying through his teeth’ says Starmer.

That’s no different to Dawn Butler calling him a liar, even if he puts in the prefix ‘the public think’.

Subtle but important difference. Think Starmer has done well today.

[hibsbollah]

Subtle but important difference. Think Starmer has done well today.

It’s kicking a prone body after the victim has had 10 pints and unable to defend himself or even speak. Boris is a dead man walking.

But yes, Starmer did his job.

[Hibrandenburg]

Wait until the inquiry is completed would appear to be the generic rebuff of choice today, I suspect we'll be hearing this more today.

[Sylar]

Well, he kind of is.
It’s a ridiculous rule that needs to be binned.

Boris an absolute liability. He must stay.

He absolutely is, I agree with you, but within the boundaries of the rules.

This must be excruciating to watch if you're a Conservative.

Yet agnoisingly, I can't see how he gets removed unless his party turns on him.

[Peanut Shaz]

Wait until the inquiry is completed would appear to be the generic rebuff of choice today, I suspect we'll be hearing this more today.

It's a cop out answer. Any of us could stand up and answer with that. Also his so called condolences to grieving families etc. He doesn't give a toss about any of them.

[hibsbollah]

Great question about The PM misleading the house on inflation figures. He was caught out by the BBC fact check people. He refuses to apologise.

[neil7908]

Finally, I think he might actually be done. He will drag it out a bit longer in the desperate hope he can bribe, intimidate or bluff his way through as he's always done.

But I think this is the beginning of the end for Boris as PM.

[hibsbollah]

It’s actually infuriating viewing. Important but infuriating. He’s a disgrace.

[SHODAN]

Finally, I think he might actually be done. He will drag it out a bit longer in the desperate hope he can bribe, intimidate or bluff his way through as he's always done.

But I think this is the beginning of the end for Boris as PM.

Hopefully he takes a few political rivals out with him. Wouldn't surprise me if he did.

[heretoday]

Starmer did ok but he's not a great speaker. Dare I say Blair would have torn the PM off a bigger strip?

[neil7908]

"I should have recognised that even if it could be said technically to fall within the guidance".

WTF planet is this guy on?

[MartinfaePorty]

Great question about Johnson getting sacked for lying in 2 previous jobs and why his job as Prime Minister should be any different

[lord bunberry]

This is glorious watching him get a right good kicking, he looks like a defeated man.

[Hibrandenburg]

Finally, I think he might actually be done. He will drag it out a bit longer in the desperate hope he can bribe, intimidate or bluff his way through as he's always done.

But I think this is the beginning of the end for Boris as PM.

There's more to come. They're still giving him enough rope to hang himself and he's unwittingly helping them build the gallows. Utter arse of a human and dimwit educated way beyond his own intellectual capabilities.

[JeMeSouviens]

Starmer did ok but he's not a great speaker. Dare I say Blair would have torn the PM off a bigger strip?

Blair wasn't actually much cop at PMQs either - it's a weird sort of panto environment.

[SteveHFC]

He’ll be gone by spring.

[Bostonhibby]

Use of ‘VIP lane’ to award Covid PPE contracts unlawful, high court rules

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/12/use-of-vip-lane-to-award-covid-ppe-contracts-unlawful-high-court-rulesNo surprise there then, cue more nasty party squealing about how the government needs to be allowed to overrule the independent judiciary. Obviously only when their corruption in cases like this is laid bare.

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[Northernhibee]

He’ll be gone by spring.

I'm going to go on a bold one here - a general election in the spring wouldn't shock me. Anyone with honour would resign, but he's not and even in that statement he had the tone of "don't blame me, other people did it and I just thought it was a work party" and "the rage towards me...and my government".

He's vain enough to do it I reckon.

[The Harp Awakes]

Finally, I think he might actually be done. He will drag it out a bit longer in the desperate hope he can bribe, intimidate or bluff his way through as he's always done.

But I think this is the beginning of the end for Boris as PM.

What might save him is the fact that most of his front bench team and and a good proportion of Tory MPs, will have been at these parties as well. If Boris comes crashing down then so will they. Heads above the parapet and all that.

[Ozyhibby]

What might save him is the fact that most of his front bench team and and a good proportion of Tory MPs, will have been at these parties as well. If Boris comes crashing down then so will they. Heads above the parapet and all that.

Surely Rishi Sunak must have been a little bit curious about a party in his back garden?


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[JeMeSouviens]

A lawyer deconstructs Johnson's defence (spoiler - ropey as ****).

https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1481242549918515203

[gbhibby]

Dearie me an apology,don't think so. He would have known of the email and if people were in his garden breaking the rules would any person with half a brain not say to the gathering WTF do you think you are doing the country is in lockdown. He broke the rules he should go.

[hibsbollah]

This Prime Minister (Temporary Replacement) bill is getting a reading on Friday. Coincidence? :greengrin

https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/2687

[Bristolhibby]

"I cannot possibly comment until Sue Grey concludes her enquiry"

https://twitter.com/endometabpub/status/1480888447145418756?s=21

[Coco Bryce]

This Prime Minister (Temporary Replacement) bill is getting a reading on Friday. Coincidence? :greengrin

https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/2687

That was last year. How's he still here :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

A lawyer deconstructs Johnson's defence (spoiler - ropey as ****).

https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1481242549918515203

Thats absolutely spot on:agree: everything that was said by him in the commons today was about protecting his personal liability. Its constructing a legal defence. That is always the cas e to some extent in the HoC but today felt more like a cross examination with the accused occasionally straying from 'no Comment' or 'I wish to exercise my rights under the 5th amendment'...The whole thing was an insult to democracy but compelling viewing all the same.

[hibsbollah]

That was last year. How's he still here :greengrin

Thats how long it takes. Its getting a 2nd reading on Friday, so maybe we'll get rid of him by 2023:greengrin

[Coco Bryce]

Thats how long it takes. Its getting a 2nd reading on Friday, so maybe we'll get rid of him by 2023:greengrin

He's clinging on that's for sure.

Like a bad smell :agree:

[heretoday]

Blair wasn't actually much cop at PMQs either - it's a weird sort of panto environment.

It is and it's increasingly one that doesn't engage the public any more.

[Col2]

Thats absolutely spot on:agree: everything that was said by him in the commons today was about protecting his personal liability. Its constructing a legal defence. That is always the cas e to some extent in the HoC but today felt more like a cross examination with the accused occasionally straying from 'no Comment' or 'I wish to exercise my rights under the 5th amendment'...The whole thing was an insult to democracy but compelling viewing all the same.

Yup. After no doubt extensive legal and political advice he decided to go with the version that protects him the most and throws everyone else under the bus. He is the worst of the worst. No moral compass and integrity of a snake.

[Jones28]

LBC correspondent Matthew Thompson:

Every so often, you remember that in April 2020, Scotland’s chief medical officer resigned because she visited her own second home, with her own immediate family.

[Scorrie]

The main fear I have if Johnson goes is the total bampots who could succeed him. That Britannia Unchanged mob are evil

[lapsedhibee]

The main fear I have if Johnson goes is the total bampots who could succeed him. That Britannia Unchanged mob are evil

:tsk tsk: Unhinged.

[neil7908]

LBC correspondent Matthew Thompson:

Every so often, you remember that in April 2020, Scotland’s chief medical officer resigned because she visited her own second home, with her own immediate family.

I totally forgot about that. I was raging at her at the time but in hindsight this is nothing compared with some of stuff going on at Downing Street.

[JeMeSouviens]

I totally forgot about that. I was raging at her at the time but in hindsight this is nothing compared with some of stuff going on at Downing Street.

Remember that time NS took her mask off briefly at a funeral?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55419564

THE SCANDAL!!!

[Scorrie]

:tsk tsk: Unhinged.

Fixed it for me!

[Skol]

I totally forgot about that. I was raging at her at the time but in hindsight this is nothing compared with some of stuff going on at Downing Street.

There was an attempt to brazen that one out, but it lasted about 36 hours I think before it was accepted she had to go

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[Hibrandenburg]

There was an attempt to brazen that one out, but it lasted about 36 hours I think before it was accepted she had to go

By her herself, I don't recall anyone trying to condone her actions.

[Santa Cruz]

By her herself, I don't recall anyone trying to condone her actions.

Not by herself. She was asked to resign by the FM.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/06/nicola-sturgeon-reveals-she-asked-chief-medical-officer-to-resign

[Bristolhibby]

Dross calling in the PM to resign.

Interesting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-59969690?at_medium=custom7&at_custom4=09767E62-73C0-11EC-948D-500F3A982C1E&at_custom3=%40BBCScotlandNews&at_campaign=64&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_custom2=twitter

J

[JeMeSouviens]

Profile of Sue Gray:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33431580

Having read that, attempted whitewash definitely incoming. :rolleyes:

[Skol]

Not by herself. She was asked to resign by the FM.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/06/nicola-sturgeon-reveals-she-asked-chief-medical-officer-to-resign

From that article, Sturgeon did change her mind after initially supporting Calderwood.

The first minister told reporters on Monday she reversed her earlier decision to publicly defend Catherine Calderwood after it became clear later on Sunday that the CMO’s position was untenable

[lapsedhibee]

Keir doing a good job so far.

And Bryant. https://twitter.com/i/status/1481247637340884995

[LunasBoots]

Dross calling in the PM to resign.

Interesting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-59969690?at_medium=custom7&at_custom4=09767E62-73C0-11EC-948D-500F3A982C1E&at_custom3=%40BBCScotlandNews&at_campaign=64&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_custom2=twitter

J

He knows any inroads with the Scottish electorate has gone while Johnson remains.

[Bostonhibby]

Dross calling in the PM to resign.

Interesting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-59969690?at_medium=custom7&at_custom4=09767E62-73C0-11EC-948D-500F3A982C1E&at_custom3=%40BBCScotlandNews&at_campaign=64&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_custom2=twitter

JBozo couldn't even get Murray Ross's name right so he really should have been calling for his head earlier than this.

He'll be in trouble when Bozo finds out that the assistant office manager of Nasty Party (Scotland) is calling for his head.

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[grunt]

And Bryant. https://twitter.com/i/status/1481247637340884995

And Karl Turner (Lab) https://twitter.com/TheBishF1/status/1481246222216216581?s=20

[grunt]

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1481306139337838601?s=20

Statement by leader of Scottish Conservatives, Douglas Ross, calling for PM's resignation. Also confirmed to Sky he'll be sending a letter of no-confidence to 1922 Committee "in due course".Incredibly, when Ross called Johnson to tell him PM insisted "he did nothing wrong."

[Hibrandenburg]

Not by herself. She was asked to resign by the FM.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/06/nicola-sturgeon-reveals-she-asked-chief-medical-officer-to-resign

She tried to brazen it out by herself is what I was saying. I can't remember her getting any support from elsewhere.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

I think Ruthie could be lined up for a role in government should bojo bugger off. Or have the far right got a full grip on the parliamentary party?

[Hibrandenburg]

Dross calling in the PM to resign.

Interesting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-59969690?at_medium=custom7&at_custom4=09767E62-73C0-11EC-948D-500F3A982C1E&at_custom3=%40BBCScotlandNews&at_campaign=64&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_custom2=twitter

J

I'm guessing he's not been running the line very often recently, he's got more chins that the Hong-Kong phone book.

[Scorrie]

Bit of a popcorn day today- both Boris Johnson and Prince Andrew in deep *****

[ronaldo7]

Profile of Sue Gray:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33431580

Having read that, attempted whitewash definitely incoming. :rolleyes:

She'll be the one who's told them all to clean their phones.

[Northernhibee]

She'll be the one who's told them all to clean their phones.

For those who want the Tories out, it'd be fantastic if it ends up being an absolute whitewash. The feeling of "one rule for them and one for us" has gotten the polls turning against them and the more that Johnson stays in power, the more that feeling will prevail.

[Colr]

Very significant and knocked too far down the news pages by other events today:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59968037

[CropleyWasGod]

Very significant and knocked too far down the news pages by other events today:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59968037

What's the likely consequences of this?

The way I read it, the companies who got the contracts would have got them anyway.

[Logie Green]

Bit of a popcorn day today- both Boris Johnson and Prince Andrew in deep *****

It’s days like this which playing the national anthem on tv late at night are for.

[Ozyhibby]

Loving the fact D Ross seems to have rallied all the Scottish Tories out against the UK prime minister. The threads of the union get a little bit thinner.


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[LunasBoots]

She'll be the one who's told them all to clean their phones.

Offshore bank balance will be looking good.

[grunt]

What's the likely consequences of this?

The way I read it, the companies who got the contracts would have got them anyway.

From the Good Law Project (who brought the case)


Over a year of hard work has paid off today. The High Court has ruled that the Government’s operation of a fast-track VIP lane for awarding lucrative PPE contracts to those with political connections was unlawful. In a challenge brought by Good Law Project and EveryDoctor to the behind closed door VIP lane worth billions of pounds, the Court found:

“the Claimants have established that operation of the High Priority Lane was in breach of the obligation of equal treatment… the illegality is marked by this judgment.”

The Judge agreed the VIP lane conferred preferential treatment on bids: it sped up the process, which meant offers were considered sooner in a process where timing was critical, and VIPs’ hands were held through the process. She said:

“offers that were introduced through the Senior Referrers received earlier consideration at the outset of the process. The High Priority Lane Team was better resourced and able to respond to such offers on the same day that they arrived”.

The Court found the Government allocated offers to the VIP lane on a “flawed basis” and did not properly prioritise bids:

“there is evidence that opportunities were treated as high priority even where there were no objectively justifiable grounds for expediting the offer.”

The Court noted that the overwhelming majority by value of the product supplied by Pestfix and Ayanda could not be used in the NHS. An independent investigation by the BBC (https://actions.goodlawproject.org/r?u=BOdf-ip-bFRCEZibDBbHGqEI8UQ1v231bP6_d8qOVFKUxjW4dTk3f5q4lA HqNbjJkBHw2C2lFoVi45anEe-ZlZkDy_DAEF6uUeQtmlm8DFEgvkeww2w9ZdtgycL8f5J0&e=6d5f225c929c87a7f2f6849df0387027&utm_source=glp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ppe_vip_lane_update&n=3&v=256) has also revealed issues with the product supplied by Clandeboye which were not disclosed to the High Court. Good Law Project believes that the Government misled the Court and is in correspondence with lawyers for the Secretary of State.

The Judge found that, even though Pestfix and Ayanda received unlawful preferential treatment via the VIP lane, they would likely have been awarded contracts anyway. The Judge also refused to allow publication of how much money was wasted by the Government’s failure to carry out technical assurance on the PPE supplied by Pestfix and Ayanda. Good Law Project is considering the wider implications of these aspects of the ruling and next steps.

We first revealed (https://actions.goodlawproject.org/r?u=pMP0Msf0sRl216gBaARm28OX6z30lgrQbnwhF4kCd0LcaQ UDuEK1wnR7OVJLcqbj_akWjKN4yzV5abAcz134CA&e=6d5f225c929c87a7f2f6849df0387027&utm_source=glp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ppe_vip_lane_update&n=4&v=256) the red carpet-to-riches VIP lane for those with political connections in October 2020. Since then, we have fought (https://actions.goodlawproject.org/r?u=pMP0Msf0sRl216gBaARm28OX6z30lgrQbnwhF4kCd0LVeA BCrJKZarqLT6g3k4KXgM-oJLgPF1JmNlOgafTYZOS0s-lDhRG1v6GmcNIyPVE&e=6d5f225c929c87a7f2f6849df0387027&utm_source=glp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ppe_vip_lane_update&n=5&v=256) to reveal details of those who benefited, and at whose request - while the Government fought to conceal them.

Never again should any Government treat a public health crisis as an opportunity to enrich its associates and donors at public expense.

[Killiehibbie]

What's the likely consequences of this?

The way I read it, the companies who got the contracts would have got them anyway.

Don't do it again.

[Ozyhibby]

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Gove says that opinions from Scotland don’t count.[emoji102]


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[Since90+2]

He'll only be gone when his MPs want him gone.

I don't think that is yet. The biggest worry for conservative MPs will be losing their seat at the next GE. There are still a few months of covid issues and probably leaks about goings on in number 10 and they'll want Boris to suck up as much as that bad publicity as he can. They won't want the new PM to have to carry that baggage into the next election and potentially lose them their seats.

My prediction is that Boris will limp on to the end of the year when he'll either be removed or resign. Sunak will be appointed and a GE held at some point in Spring 2023.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Gove says that opinions from Scotland don’t count.[emoji102]


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I think he means Ross' opinions don't count.

Which is hardly news :greengrin

[Ozyhibby]

I think he means Ross' opinions don't count.

Which is hardly news :greengrin

It’s the fact he uses distance from London as a measure of worth.


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[lord bunberry]

And Karl Turner (Lab) https://twitter.com/TheBishF1/status/1481246222216216581?s=20
He was my favourite today, the way he delivered his speech was poetic.

[hibsbollah]

Profile of Sue Gray:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33431580

Having read that, attempted whitewash definitely incoming. :rolleyes:


If this was Pulp Fiction she's clearly in the Harvey Keitel role. Boris is Marcellus.

[Colr]

What's the likely consequences of this?

The way I read it, the companies who got the contracts would have got them anyway.

Maybe and maybe not. The only likely consequence is if those who didn’t get the opportunity challenge the decision under the procurement regs.

It doesn’t happen much as any challenge might make it tricky to get selected for future bidding but it does happen.

[Ozyhibby]

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Tories going all England v Scotland. [emoji106]


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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/talkradio/status/1481329570502656001?s=21


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[CropleyWasGod]

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Tories going all England v Scotland. [emoji106]


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Biggest Scottish Tory rebellion since 1745 😁

[McD]

He'll only be gone when his MPs want him gone.

I don't think that is yet. The biggest worry for conservative MPs will be losing their seat at the next GE. There are still a few months of covid issues and probably leaks about goings on in number 10 and they'll want Boris to suck up as much as that bad publicity as he can. They won't want the new PM to have to carry that baggage into the next election and potentially lose them their seats.

My prediction is that Boris will limp on to the end of the year when he'll either be removed or resign. Sunak will be appointed and a GE held at some point in Spring 2023.


i said the same earlier to a colleague, they’ll use Boris as a mule for as much bad news/screw ups/cover ups/negativity as possible, then shove him off a cliff, clearing the slate for his replacement

[Northernhibee]

Election Maps UK
@ElectionMapsUK
Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 38% (+1)
CON: 28% (-5)
LDM: 13% (+3)
GRN: 7% (+1)
RFM: 4% (-1)

Via
@YouGov
, 12 Jan.
Changes w/ 6-7 Jan.

[lapsedhibee]

Rees Mogg giving an absolutely surreal performance on Newsnight.

His 'Ross is a lightweight' produced a rare 'ooft' from Kirsty Wark.

[Kato]

Rees Mogg giving an absolutely surreal performance on Newsnight.

His 'Ross is a lightweight' produced a rare 'ooft' from Kirsty Wark.Feral.

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[ronaldo7]

Union Jack, the weasel in the Scotland office, supports Johnson 100% according to Rees Mogg, and is far superior than Douglas Ross. I thought Dross was in charge of the Tories in Scotland

[Bostonhibby]

What's the likely consequences of this?

The way I read it, the companies who got the contracts would have got them anyway.Not the ones that never existed before this "opportunity" to fill certain selective boots arose?

I'm thinking Matt Hancock's pub landlord for example.......

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[Northernhibee]

I wonder how the VIP lane being found unlawful will change the plans for Johnson within the Tory party. The longer he's in charge, can't take responsibility for anything and is toxic to them it may spread through the party and take down quite a few careers. Or maybe he's seen in such a bad light that he'll absorb it up and they'll be able to hide behind him.

I still think Johnson is too vain to do the right thing for his party, absorb all of that and move on.

[cabbageandribs1875]

two repugnant compulsive liars....

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/271802395_5341488752547327_393515960864321029_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=NYmMAtlNE6kAX-8a3qx&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT92az0lTIVkyk2BctsK3xPo8h2C2PG00yiWeEbDrkPi SA&oe=61E4E254

[JeMeSouviens]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI-gkRBXIAIdcfS?format=jpg&name=900x900

[JeMeSouviens]

Feel the "precious union" love: https://twitter.com/BrugesGroup/status/1481314392411152389

[hibsbollah]

I wonder how the VIP lane being found unlawful will change the plans for Johnson within the Tory party. The longer he's in charge, can't take responsibility for anything and is toxic to them it may spread through the party and take down quite a few careers. Or maybe he's seen in such a bad light that he'll absorb it up and they'll be able to hide behind him.

I still think Johnson is too vain to do the right thing for his party, absorb all of that and move on.

Johnson is only a very small part of the moral problem at the top of the Tory party, and the wider establishment though.

I was talking about this to friends last night. The shocking element to this was 'about 100' people were in attendance at this party. This happened in May 2020. Thats twenty months ago. in all that time, all of those attendees kept quiet about something which many of them will have known to be wrong at the time. Plain Wrong, not just Bad Politics. Some of those who didnt attend have said that they thought the email was wrong when they got it. But they still supported their leader, they still kept quiet, they still tolerated this obvious culture of 'One Rule for Them, Another For Us', for over a year and a half. But over a hundred people were there, breaking the rules. How do you keep a secret that long among that many people, most of whom will be senior politicians, civil servants, policy people from think tanks, friends and family, journalists. The Met police clearly knew. On the same day when they were tweeting threats to the public about the consequences of rule breaking. Obviously its of a different magnitude but the Omerta culture actually reminds me of recent abuse cases. And surprise surprise the BBC don't really want to talk about this wider element.

Making this all about The Clown is letting the rest of the absolute pondlife that operate in Whitehall and #10 off the hook.

[Callum_62]

two repugnant compulsive liars....

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/271802395_5341488752547327_393515960864321029_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=NYmMAtlNE6kAX-8a3qx&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AT92az0lTIVkyk2BctsK3xPo8h2C2PG00yiWeEbDrkPi SA&oe=61E4E254

If Carlsberg done front pages....

[Northernhibee]

Johnson is only a very small part of the moral problem at the top of the Tory party, and the wider establishment though.

I was talking about this to friends last night. The shocking element to this was 'about 100' people were in attendance at this party. This happened in May 2020. Thats twenty months ago. in all that time, all of those attendees kept quiet about something which many of them will have known to be wrong at the time. Plain Wrong, not just Bad Politics. Some of those who didnt attend have said that they thought the email was wrong when they got it. But they still supported their leader, they still kept quiet, they still tolerated this obvious culture of 'One Rule for Them, Another For Us', for over a year and a half. But over a hundred people were there, breaking the rules. How do you keep a secret that long among that many people, most of whom will be senior politicians, civil servants, policy people from think tanks, friends and family, journalists. The Met police clearly knew. On the same day when they were tweeting threats to the public about the consequences of rule breaking. Obviously its of a different magnitude but the Omerta culture actually reminds me of recent abuse cases.

Making this all about The Clown is letting the rest of the absolute pondlife that operate in Whitehall and #10 off the hook.

Correct. I'm not convinced the collective attack from all parties at PMQs at the PM is the right move, the questions need to now move on to "Who else was there?" and "who else knew about it?".

[hibsbollah]

Correct. I'm not convinced the collective attack from all parties at PMQs at the PM is the right move, the questions need to now move on to "Who else was there?" and "who else knew about it?".

:agree:
Opposition parties and even Tory backbenchers have no real power to dig deep and make real change, even if they wanted to. And we know Sue Gray is about the most establishmenty establishment figure you could think of to head this joke of 'an inquiry'. And even if she does find against him, it appears BJ has the power to veto the findings anyway;

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/13/no-10-parties-inquiry-boris-johnson-sue-gray-former-civil-servants

[JeMeSouviens]

:agree:
Opposition parties and even Tory backbenchers have no real power to dig deep and make real change, even if they wanted to. And we know Sue Gray is about the most establishmenty establishment figure you could think of to head this joke of 'an inquiry'. And even if she does find against him, it appears BJ has the power to veto the findings anyway;

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/13/no-10-parties-inquiry-boris-johnson-sue-gray-former-civil-servants

All she's doing is setting out the facts, it will be up to < drum roll > ... the Prime Minister to interpret them. You honestly couldn't make this pish up. :rolleyes:

[cabbageandribs1875]

poor wee murray ross :hilarious

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[SHODAN]

Union Jack, the weasel in the Scotland office, supports Johnson 100% according to Rees Mogg, and is far superior than Douglas Ross. I thought Dross was in charge of the Tories in Scotland

If a Tory becomes FM then the Scotland Office will have more power than SG. Confirmed.

[hibsbollah]

All she's doing is setting out the facts, it will be up to < drum roll > ... the Prime Minister to interpret them. You honestly couldn't make this pish up. :rolleyes:


“The prime minister himself gets to decide if he needs to be investigated under the ministerial code. No one else can make that decision and he has so far refused to give up this veto despite the recommendations from the committee for standards in public life (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-sleaze-ministerial-code-b1834257.html) to do so,” he said.

So in that sense at least, we have no more ability to get rid of corrupt leaders than Putin's Russia or Xi's China:rolleyes::aok:

[lapsedhibee]

Johnson is only a very small part of the moral problem at the top of the Tory party, and the wider establishment though.

I was talking about this to friends last night. The shocking element to this was 'about 100' people were in attendance at this party. This happened in May 2020. Thats twenty months ago. in all that time, all of those attendees kept quiet about something which many of them will have known to be wrong at the time. Plain Wrong, not just Bad Politics. Some of those who didnt attend have said that they thought the email was wrong when they got it. But they still supported their leader, they still kept quiet, they still tolerated this obvious culture of 'One Rule for Them, Another For Us', for over a year and a half. But over a hundred people were there, breaking the rules. How do you keep a secret that long among that many people, most of whom will be senior politicians, civil servants, policy people from think tanks, friends and family, journalists. The Met police clearly knew. On the same day when they were tweeting threats to the public about the consequences of rule breaking. Obviously its of a different magnitude but the Omerta culture actually reminds me of recent abuse cases. And surprise surprise the BBC don't really want to talk about this wider element.

Making this all about The Clown is letting the rest of the absolute pondlife that operate in Whitehall and #10 off the hook.

Think it was 100 invited, maybe 30 or 40 attended. I'd like to know why Kuenssberg and Peston never made any reference in the last 18 months to any of the rule breaking that was going on at Downing St.

[hibsbollah]

Think it was 100 invited, maybe 30 or 40 attended. I'd like to know why Kuenssberg and Peston never made any reference in the last 18 months to any of the rule breaking that was going on at Downing St.

I missed that, i thought it was 100 attended. Point still stands though, all those 100 who were invited knew about it and kept it a secret for all this time. I can't keep a secret for a day and a half:greengrin That sort of casts doubt on this idea that lots of ordinary Tory MPs hate Boris and want him out. If they did, why not shaft him earlier?

[JeMeSouviens]

I missed that, i thought it was 100 attended. Point still stands though, all those 100 who were invited knew about it and kept it a secret for all this time. I can't keep a secret for a day and a half:greengrin That sort of casts doubt on this idea that lots of ordinary Tory MPs hate Boris and want him out. If they did, why not shaft him earlier?

Out of that 100, very few if any would be MPs or other politicians. Civil servants, spads etc. Which isn't to say lots of other pols didn't know it was going on, but most probably had their own parties to go to. :rolleyes:

[JeMeSouviens]

I missed that, i thought it was 100 attended. Point still stands though, all those 100 who were invited knew about it and kept it a secret for all this time. I can't keep a secret for a day and a half:greengrin That sort of casts doubt on this idea that lots of ordinary Tory MPs hate Boris and want him out. If they did, why not shaft him earlier?

btw, pretty sure most of these leaks are being coordinated by Cummings and chums. I saw something on twitter last night pointing out that Johnson's "loyalty" to DC over Barnard Castle etc makes much more sense when you realise how much kompromat there was in both directions!

[MartinfaePorty]

I emailed my MP, David Mundell, this morning as I was interested in his opinion, as a Tory MP. I can't be bothered posting the whole response but suffice to say, whilst he didn't say Johnson should go, it was far from a message of overwhelming support! The Scots Tories are revolting! :wink:

[Northernhibee]

https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1481590394072846339?s=20

What an utterly despicable prick Rees Mogg is.

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Rees-Mogg makes a fair point for a change.

Snivelling, servile ***** like Murray Ross should know their place.

[heretoday]

Think it was 100 invited, maybe 30 or 40 attended. I'd like to know why Kuenssberg and Peston never made any reference in the last 18 months to any of the rule breaking that was going on at Downing St.

Maybe they didn't think it was that big a deal. They were probably attending media get-togethers themselves.

[Bostonhibby]

Rees-Mogg makes a fair point for a change.

Snivelling, servile ***** like Murray Ross should know their place.They've certainly gone overboard on taking the shillings, even if they are actually the tax payers shillings but does the odious little man say who the king he refers to is?

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[Pretty Boy]

This all reminds me of being a young teenager and trying to bluff my way out of bother when I was bang to rights.

I wasn't at the party became it was only a gathering became OK it was a party but I wasn't drinking then OK I had a few and finally the point where you admit defeat and tell the truth.

Deep down you know your parents know the score before the questions even start but you tough it out and go through the process anyway. Most of us grow out of that behaviour but it appear Johnson and his gang are still just overgrown schoolchildren at heart. As if that's a revelation to anyone.

[CropleyWasGod]

They've certainly gone overboard on taking the shillings, even if they are actually the tax payers shillings but does the odious little man say who the king he refers to is?

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Think Mickey Rourke in Angel Heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgwSd6lpGKA


Bobby D. obvs.

[Bostonhibby]

Think Mickey Rourke in Angel Heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgwSd6lpGKA


Bobby D. obvs.[emoji106][emoji16]

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[Northernhibee]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-reesmogg-andrew-davies-conservatives-b1992456.html#Echobox=1642085502

He really is catastrophically thick, isn't he?

[weecounty hibby]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-reesmogg-andrew-davies-conservatives-b1992456.html#Echobox=1642085502

He really is catastrophically thick, isn't he?
No, the majority of the English electorate are for being taken in by these crooks and con artists. He on the other hand has become a very wealthy individual by being the before mentioned crook and con man

[Kato]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-reesmogg-andrew-davies-conservatives-b1992456.html#Echobox=1642085502

He really is catastrophically thick, isn't he?....another mention of top cabinet members and the PM working on the vaccine roll-out.

What do they actually do on a day-to-day basis that is vital to the vaccination programme? My bet is nothing.

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[JimBHibees]

I emailed my MP, David Mundell, this morning as I was interested in his opinion, as a Tory MP. I can't be bothered posting the whole response but suffice to say, whilst he didn't say Johnson should go, it was far from a message of overwhelming support! The Scots Tories are revolting! :wink:

Dont think they are it is just a pretence to separate themselves from Johnson and Westminster. There have been a few issues like that recently Cummings being one I think

[Hibrandenburg]

Dont think they are it is just a pretence to separate themselves from Johnson and Westminster. There have been a few issues like that recently Cummings being one I think

No, they're definitely revolting.

[Radium]

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[Northernhibee]

Met police not investigating May 20th unless Sue Gray finds criminality.

Sue Gray of course being the one who isn’t a police officer.

[Pretty Boy]

Met police not investigating May 20th unless Sue Gray finds criminality.

Sue Gray of course being the one who isn’t a police officer.

Can we all try that?

There's a few people I wouldn't mind giving a smack. If the Police turn up I'll just advise them my mate is looking into it and if he finds criminality I'll be sure to tell him to let them know.

The Met are a total gang.

[hibsbollah]

Can we all try that?

There's a few people I wouldn't mind giving a smack. If the Police turn up I'll just advise them my mate is looking into it and if he finds criminality I'll be sure to tell him to let them know.



:greengrin Very good.

John Crace also made me laugh today.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/13/the-pms-predicament-seemed-hopeless-but-brandon-lewis-had-a-cunning-plan

[bringbackbenny]

:greengrin Very good.

John Crace also made me laugh today.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/13/the-pms-predicament-seemed-hopeless-but-brandon-lewis-had-a-cunning-plan

What a brilliant read. Loved his take down of Rees-Mogg

"reality he is a 12-year-old entitled brat in an oversized suit whose default setting is to be patronising and offensive. The very model of passive aggression."

[mayo hibee]

Party At 10 Downing Street the night before the Royal funeral.

No suggestion that Johnson attended but I think this one might be the final nail for him all the same.

[Colr]

Party At 10 Downing Street the night before the Royal funeral.

No suggestion that Johnson attended but I think this one might be the final nail for him all the same.

Reported where?

[Radium]

Reported where?

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Telegraph

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[AugustaHibs]

And that’s a wrap, folks.

[hibsbollah]

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Telegraph

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I will only believe there was dancing if and when Sue Gray tells me there was.

[Pretty Boy]

Party At 10 Downing Street the night before the Royal funeral.

No suggestion that Johnson attended but I think this one might be the final nail for him all the same.

That could well be that.

The imagery of the Queen mourning alone publicly was powerful, regardless of what was going on behind closed doors, because it was something we could all relate to. Even your most dyed in the wool Tory isn't going to accept Johnson pissing it up 12 hours before.

[Ozyhibby]

That could well be that.

The imagery of the Queen mourning alone publicly was powerful, regardless of what was going on behind closed doors, because it was something we could all relate to. Even your most dyed in the wool Tory isn't going to accept Johnson pissing it up 12 hours before.

It’s also important that it’s a Telegraph exclusive. They have been Johnsons biggest cheerleaders. They have clearly decided he is no longer any use to them.


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[mayo hibee]

And the party was a leaving do for the now deputy editor of The Sun, James Slack.

Which of course explains their relative lack of coverage of all this up to now.

[ronaldo7]

I wonder if downing street applied for furlough for all their nightclub workers.

[mayo hibee]

It’s also important that it’s a Telegraph exclusive. They have been Johnsons biggest cheerleaders. They have clearly decided he is no longer any use to them.


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I'd say they've been handed this story from fairly high up in the Tory party because the Tories have decided that he has to go now.

[mayo hibee]

A lot of newspaper front pages getting rewritten right now I'd say.

[hibsbollah]

It’s also important that it’s a Telegraph exclusive. They have been Johnsons biggest cheerleaders. They have clearly decided he is no longer any use to them.


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They’ve been running negative stuff about him for a while now. It’s part of the coordinated nature of the takedown which makes me think it’s a bit stage managed.

[Colr]

They’ve been running negative stuff about him for a while now. It’s part of the coordinated nature of the takedown which makes me think it’s a bit stage managed.

To replace him with whom.

Their party’s a mess with the lame duck PM being manipulated by the extremist ERG loonies.

Sunak - not ready
Truss - thick
Raab - thick

My guess would be the pint-sized fascist Patel. She’s right piece of ****.

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220113/38f8d5e99a5dadf42b2155801285968a.jpg

FFS. These people are absolutely shameless. Johnson will be gone soon enough but the civil service really needs to be sacking up to 50 of the staff who work in Downing Street.


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[Lendo]

Seriously, does any actual ****ing work get done by anyone in the UK government?! They all seem to have a better social life than a student on freshers weeks.

[mayo hibee]

To replace him with whom.

Their party’s a mess with the lame duck PM being manipulated by the extremist ERG loonies.

Sunak - not ready
Truss - thick
Raab - thick

My guess would be the pint-sized fascist Patel. She’s right piece of ****.

Probably Sunak. Or else someone from outside the cabinet like Jeremy Hunt if the current lot are all too damaged at this stage.

Most of the rest of them are somehow even denser than Johnson.

[Lendo]

Probably Sunak. Or else someone from outside the cabinet like Jeremy Hunt if the current lot are all too damaged at this stage.

Most of the rest of them are somehow even denser than Johnson.

Sunak is the best of a bad bunch, which is a sad state of affairs.

[Northernhibee]

Sunak is the best of a bad bunch, which is a sad state of affairs.

Sunak terrifies me.

[Ozyhibby]

Sunak lives in Party central, surely a risk that he is compromised?


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[CropleyWasGod]

Sunak terrifies me.

I think we have become inured to them TBH.

If Sunak terrifies you, don't go to bed thinking of the Holy Trinity of Patel, Gove and Rees-Mogg.

I said don't 😉

[hibsbollah]

Probably Sunak. Or else someone from outside the cabinet like Jeremy Hunt if the current lot are all too damaged at this stage.

Most of the rest of them are somehow even denser than Johnson.

It makes no odds at all who the leader will be. Same evil project.

[JeMeSouviens]

I can’t believe I’m typing this but the current bunch have managed to make Jeremy Hunt seem almost reasonable. Rory Stewart has been proved entirely right about the pandemic but is a bit of an oddball.

The rest of them are incompetent, totally corrupt or rabid loonies. Mostly all 3.

[SteveHFC]

The Tories have to lose the next election after this.

Absolute disgrace.

[AugustaHibs]

The Tories have to lose the next election after this.

Absolute disgrace.

Can guarantee they won’t though unfortunately

[Northernhibee]

I think we have become inured to them TBH.

If Sunak terrifies you, don't go to bed thinking of the Holy Trinity of Patel, Gove and Rees-Mogg.

I said don't 😉

They’re so unable to hide their Etonian privileges that they won’t offer anything different from what we have now, it’ll lead to a further slide in the polls.

Sunak is a bit more slippery and would have them rebounding. I fear for the NHS under all of them though.

[SideBurns]

I can’t believe I’m typing this but the current bunch have managed to make Jeremy Hunt seem almost reasonable. Rory Stewart has been proved entirely right about the pandemic but is a bit of an oddball.

The rest of them are incompetent, totally corrupt or rabid loonies. Mostly all 3.

It's like every new Tory Govt makes previous ones seem almost reasonable by comparison.

I mind my auld man saying that, when growing up, they thought Harold MacMillan was a right *****house. Then 20 years later came Thatcher...

[CropleyWasGod]

The Tories have to lose the next election after this.

Absolute disgrace.

Whoever is doing the leaking is smart. Damaging the current incumbents now gives the new regime time to regain their lost voters before the next election.

[hibsbollah]

Whoever is doing the leaking is smart. Damaging the current incumbents now gives the new regime time to regain their lost voters before the next election.

On the money I’m afraid.

[Northernhibee]

Angela Rayner going after every single cabinet member suggests to me that Labour know the above to be true.

[Northernhibee]

https://twitter.com/jnpowell1/status/1481770595792699395

Sue Gray enquiry to find the parties as “not criminal”

[JeMeSouviens]

https://twitter.com/jnpowell1/status/1481770595792699395

Sue Gray enquiry to find the parties as “not criminal”

Shockerooni! :rolleyes:

[lapsedhibee]

Probably Sunak. Or else someone from outside the cabinet like Jeremy Hunt if the current lot are all too damaged at this stage.

Most of the rest of them are somehow even denser than Johnson.

Not a thing that happened by chance, that. Handpicked by Johnson to be loyal to the very last, as the vast majority of them wouldn't be in anyone else's cabinet. Dorries in particular is sounding desperate, even for her, as she knows she's in the last few days of being anybody.

[lapsedhibee]

https://twitter.com/jnpowell1/status/1481770595792699395

Sue Gray enquiry to find the parties as “not criminal”

Alice in Wonderland stuff.

[JeMeSouviens]

Not a thing that happened by chance, that. Handpicked by Johnson to be loyal to the very last, as the vast majority of them wouldn't be in anyone else's cabinet. Dorries in particular is sounding desperate, even for her, as she knows she's in the last few days of being anybody.

Stolen from twitter: the closest most of them will ever get to cabinet again is a visit to ikea.

[Hibrandenburg]

https://twitter.com/jnpowell1/status/1481770595792699395

Sue Gray enquiry to find the parties as “not criminal”

That was always going to be the case and any doubt on the outcome vanished the moment Johnson made his so called apology. The second he uttered the words "wait until the inquiry concludes" it was obvious that we'd hear that repeated over and over again by his minions and that the result of the inquiry was already decided. It will fool nobody this time and will only fuel public anger. He's toast and his minions with him.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Whoever is doing the leaking is smart. Damaging the current incumbents now gives the new regime time to regain their lost voters before the next election.

Probably Sunak, he lives in party central. Probably took the snaps of them lounging about in the garden.

[Jack]

Not a thing that happened by chance, that. Handpicked by Johnson to be loyal to the very last, as the vast majority of them wouldn't be in anyone else's cabinet. Dorries in particular is sounding desperate, even for her, as she knows she's in the last few days of being anybody.

It's not just the Cabinet members that are in the image of BJ.

There was a lot of fuss at the time of the last general election that 'decent' sitting MPs were being dumped for looney right wing Brexit types.

[Callum_62]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/13/boris-johnson-cancels-visit-to-vaccine-centre-as-relative-tests-positive-for-covid?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1642086462

Right.

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[Glory Lurker]

Surely only a court can decide if something is criminal or not?

And for the Met to say they'll let the committee decide seems crazy.

I genuinely hope I am missing something and would be delighted if it was pointed out to me, but isn't this textbook state corruption?

[Scorrie]

https://twitter.com/jnpowell1/status/1481770595792699395

Sue Gray enquiry to find the parties as “not criminal”

That could play out badly for them as people will clearly see it’s a whitewash. The cabinet will be desperately hoping that former Prince Andrew has been up to no good and will dominate the headlines for the remainder of the year!

[degenerated]

I will only believe there was dancing if and when Sue Gray tells me there was.Aye, me too25466

[lapsedhibee]

I genuinely hope I am missing something and would be delighted if it was pointed out to me, but isn't this textbook state corruption?
:agree: Dick wants her seat in the HoL and has seen what happened to Bercow.

[Northernhibee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdslUfmI1gU

I really hope Johnson doesn't go for some time, the more we see things like this the more it's apparent that the rot is through the entire Tory party.

[hibsbollah]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdslUfmI1gU

I really hope Johnson doesn't go for some time, the more we see things like this the more it's apparent that the rot is through the entire Tory party.

Its this consistent line that he's apologised on one hand, but that 'he hasnt necessarily done anything wrong', that means you may as well chuck away the entire English language and start again. What is an apology if not at the very minimum, an admission that 'you have done something wrong'????

You have a deeply intelligent and successful woman like Diane Abbott who is pillloried across our media for apparently being thick, and then we have to suffer absolute tragedies like Dorries as normal, cabinet level politicians, when she can't even make any sense.

[bawheid]

Its this consistent line that he's apologised on one hand, but that 'he hasnt necessarily done anything wrong', that means you may as well chuck away the entire English language and start again. What is an apology if not at the very minimum, an admission that 'you have done something wrong'????

You have a deeply intelligent and successful woman like Diane Abbott who is pillloried across our media for apparently being thick, and then we have to suffer absolute tragedies like Dorries as normal, cabinet level politicians, when she can't even make any sense.

This ties in nicely with the Ukraine thread IMO. At this moment we need intelligent, competent and honest western leaders. The UK has voted in a shambles of a Conservative party, which has purged itself of anyone with any intelligence, competence or honesty.

I mean, Nadine Dorries in the cabinet? It’s a real problem.

[SHODAN]

The Tories have to lose the next election after this.

Absolute disgrace.

They might get a reduced majority if you're lucky.

[Ozyhibby]

And the party was a leaving do for the now deputy editor of The Sun, James Slack.

Which of course explains their relative lack of coverage of all this up to now.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/1481934007726231552?s=21

We need to move on.


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[JeMeSouviens]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJDjMSMXEAIAe72?format=jpg&name=large

You can almost hear the knives sharpening. :wink:

[Kato]

https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/1481934007726231552?s=21

We need to move on.


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Moving on, next up we have dodgy VIP lane Covid contracts which were found to be illegal yesterday. Not that they have necessarily done anything wrong, other than broken the law as they did with the rave ups at No 10. Those rave ups were illegal but they didn't necessarily do anything wrong......so moving on....

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[The Harp Awakes]

No10 having to apologise to the Queen now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59997364

The last nail in Boris' coffin perhaps? The civil servant's investigation seems a bit irrelevant; if he survives that long it will likely be a whitewash to allow him wriggle room. A whitewash might be worse for him though, as it will just prove the corruption.

[JeMeSouviens]

I think these latest parties might have been leaked by pro-Johnsonians as a "dead cat".

1. It's in the Telegraph, he's "there boy".
2. Johnson wasn't there.
3. It's even more outrageous than the last lot, so they'll hope it distracts from the garden party and becomes the one lodged in the public mind.
4. The narrative will be "look what these unruly spads get up to when Boris is away".
5. He'll sack his PPS and a few underlings and attempt to carry on.

[Bristolhibby]

Cracking up at the fact they broke the kids swing set.

Outrageous and out of hand at the best of times. During a pandemic, and critically while her maj was sad.

The British seem to be able to put up with Johnson, but upset Queenie and he surely is dead man walking.

J

[mayo hibee]

Whoever is doing the leaking is smart. Damaging the current incumbents now gives the new regime time to regain their lost voters before the next election.

From a Labour point of view there's probably a logic to leaving Johnson where he is at this point. The longer he clings on the more long term damage he'll do to the Tories.

Once Johnson is gone they'll just pin everything bad linked to Covid and Brexit on him and get their traditional English voters back on side with a more straight laced leader like Sunak or Hunt. Johnson massively weakens them in Scotland also.

Labour could do with getting/leaking some dirt on Sunak at this stage, try and damage him to the extent that he can't be the next PM. Someone like Truss, Gove or Patel as PM would be a huge win for the opposition.

[Bostonhibby]

https://twitter.com/jnpowell1/status/1481770595792699395

Sue Gray enquiry to find the parties as “not criminal”Pope is not a protestant and bears don't use public toilets....

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[ronaldo7]

Another party for Kate Josephs, the former head of the government unit for drawing up covid 19 restrictions, held in the cabinet office on December 17th, the day before the Downing st party.

They be better telling us which dates they never had a party.

Ms Josephs, who was awarded the Companion of the Order of the Bath in the Queen’s Birthday honours last June in recognition of her exemplary public service, left the Government the following day.

The Telegraph has been told that “dozens” of officials from the Cabinet Office’s Covid-19 taskforce attended the event on Dec 17 2020 while the country was still under draconian restrictions.

Same evening that Simon Case’s own staff held a gathering in his private office

[Ozyhibby]

Another party for Kate Josephs, the former head of the government unit for drawing up covid 19 restrictions, held in the cabinet office on December 17th, the day before the Downing st party.

They be better telling us which dates they never had a party.

Ms Josephs, who was awarded the Companion of the Order of the Bath in the Queen’s Birthday honours last June in recognition of her exemplary public service, left the Government the following day.

The Telegraph has been told that “dozens” of officials from the Cabinet Office’s Covid-19 taskforce attended the event on Dec 17 2020 while the country was still under draconian restrictions.

Same evening that Simon Case’s own staff held a gathering in his private office

Most peoples work would not have that many parties even without a pandemic going on. Must be an amazing place to work.


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[JeMeSouviens]

Most peoples work would not have that many parties even without a pandemic going on. Must be an amazing place to work.


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Pretty hard on the liver though.

[Hibrandenburg]

Most peoples work would not have that many parties even without a pandemic going on. Must be an amazing place to work.


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Would explain why Johnson looks like a sack of **** most days.

[Ozyhibby]

Would explain why Johnson looks like a sack of **** most days.

My mate works for civil service down there (only occasionally is he in No 10) and he says Johnson is 100% an alcoholic.


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[Glory Lurker]

How he ever got where he is now after this is beyond me

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/boris-johnson-security-evgeny-lebedev-perugia-party

[cabbageandribs1875]

Boris Johnson news – live: No 10 apologises to Queen but Liz Truss tells nation to ‘move on’ from partygate | The Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-news-party-resign-b1992977.html?src=rss)

Boris Johnson (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/boris-johnson) launched “Operation Save Big Dog” to try and save his job on a day the Downing Street (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/downing-street) parties scandal continued to dominate Westminster.
Mr Johnson is understood to be drawing up a list of officials who can offer their resignation after the publication of Sue Gray’s findings on the various gatherings at No10.

It is understood the apology was made by a government official, in a telephone call – rather than in a conversation involving Mr Johnson.

never underestimate how much of a coward that PoS is :agree:


and wtf does Truss think she is with her 'move on' crap

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-wine-time-fridays-25951853


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[mayo hibee]

"Operation Save Big Dog" - and he named it himself. The man literally has no shame.

Hilarious to see now how many people he's going to try to throw under a bus now to see if he can save himself.

I think it's pretty clear now that it's a question of when, not if, he is removed but there may still be time for him to show himself up even more before he goes.

[Glory Lurker]

"Operation Save Big Dog" - and he named it himself. The man literally has no shame.

Hilarious to see now how many people he's going to try to throw under a bus now to see if he can save himself.

I think it's pretty clear now that it's a question of when, not if, he is removed but there may still be time for him to show himself up even more before he goes.

Every sacking would make another spiteful enemy who knows things. Bring it right on.

[Callum_62]

This was our PM recently. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220114/e8272c679c914bbfe11e316ca9dde1cf.jpg

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