Tories are still lying *******s

[grunt]

No one elected Cummings. And yet here he is, sharing his plans from 2020 to leave the ECHR and to deploy the navy to turn back the boats.
This lying Tory Government has been a ****ing disaster for this country.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_M_1bIWUAAKG3e?format=jpg&name=medium

[jacomo]

Scotlands third highest politican getting caught lying to the public and fiddling expenses is massive news in Scotland rightly. Its only been in the news day after day because he's dragging it out telling more lies daily. If he admitted he made a mistake last year and paid it himself he'd probably get sympathy and it wouldn't be a story.

It's not a main story in England because the tories have been getting hammered for a week about Rwanda.

As for increasing sanctions for people who lose their benefits rights after refusing a job for 18 months, I'd bet it would get support up here from the public. There's nothing wrong with getting people to get back into work the problem is the tories do it disgusting time after time, punishing people who can't physically or mentally work for example

It obviously goes without saying removing free prescription for poor people is barbaric and stupid because it will cost you more. It won't happen though. The only getting sick lines from the brew will I think though


There has been quite a lot of coverage of this story in England.

It may be a relatively trivial sum but it’s relatable and speaks to the cynical view that all politicians are on the take. Many people including me have been caught out by high roaming charges on holiday. Few of them try to get their employers to cover the bill.

As is so often the way, the attempted cover up becomes worse than the initial wrongdoing.

He’s an idiot and no amount of complaining about media bias (although justified) gets him off the hook.

[grunt]

That ol' levelling up in action again.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_NGBJbWMAAkeoH?format=jpg&name=medium

[Bostonhibby]

No one elected Cummings. And yet here he is, sharing his plans from 2020 to leave the ECHR and to deploy the navy to turn back the boats.
This lying Tory Government has been a ****ing disaster for this country.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_M_1bIWUAAKG3e?format=jpg&name=mediumDestroying boats on the shore would involve an invasion on french soil?

Just the sort of stuff flag waving patriots need to hear. Even if it's unsustainable- just like sending plane loads of people to Rwanda.

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[Just Alf]

Shocking

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/nov/18/more-than-half-of-hospitals-england-rated-substandard-health-regulator?CMP=share_btn_link

Doesn't include Scotland but I'd be very interested to find out if we're just as bad.
Issues need identified so that they can be addressed

[Just Alf]

Aw man... while looking at the info in the last post came across this.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/18/shocking-scale-of-uk-governments-secret-files-on-critics-revealed?CMP=share_btn_link

This is very, very Orwellian and and big danger to our democracy surely?

[lapsedhibee]

Shocking

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/nov/18/more-than-half-of-hospitals-england-rated-substandard-health-regulator?CMP=share_btn_link

Doesn't include Scotland but I'd be very interested to find out if we're just as bad.
Issues need identified so that they can be addressed

At last, something the Tories set out to achieve is working as intended.

[Hibrandenburg]

Destroying boats on the shore would involve an invasion on french soil?

Just the sort of stuff flag waving patriots need to hear. Even if it's unsustainable- just like sending plane loads of people to Rwanda.

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They're just not very intelligent but rely on their support being even more dense or just nasty. That gimp Frost was on TV this morning telling us that we need to treat immigrants harder like some of our European neighbours do and in the same breath saying it's inherited EU law that's stopping us doing so. And their morons that vote for them either can't see through the bull**** or lap it up. I ****ing hate Tory voters.

[cabbageandribs1875]

we all have a lot to thank this marvellous Tory Government for over the years :agree: ʟᴀʀʀʏ & ᴘᴀᴜʟ on X: "���� #FridayFeeling: A message to the @Conservatives on behalf of the British people. #ThankYouTories ���� https://t.co/yb31YJngcN" / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/larryandpaul/status/1725408432440954893?s=12&t=hMNGbIbXg-RHR6jrRshyCg&fbclid=IwAR2gX-eeejbYjcBtAbwBLvq-DtJSbICKxyEu9SdnB5lOLmVAm_6lXssD_4s)



shower o utter ****s

[Stairway 2 7]

Due to economy doing better than expected (due to inflation falling which is nothing to do with them) there is apparently £20 billion headroom. What do they do with the unexpected cash, you'd think put it to NHS waiting times or the increase in child poverty no? No tax cut to the rich in inheritance tax and high tax rates.

We've shown we can protest in the UK so why are we silent on this, ******g evil. SNP don't get enough credit for the increase in child benefit which directly goes to those most in need

[grunt]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/18/shocking-scale-of-uk-governments-secret-files-on-critics-revealed?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


Fifteen government departments have been monitoring the social media activity of potential critics and compiling “secret files” in order to block them from speaking at public events, the Observer can reveal.

Under the guidelines issued in each department, including the departments of health, culture, media and sport, and environment, food and rural affairs, officials are advised to check experts’ Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and LinkedIn accounts. They are also told to conduct Google searches on those individuals, using specific terms such as “criticism of government or prime minister”.

[JimBHibees]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/18/shocking-scale-of-uk-governments-secret-files-on-critics-revealed?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

That is despicable but certainly shows them up for what they are.

[grunt]

Sunak is a psychopath, apparently.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_YrmTkXoAAUvgR?format=jpg&name=medium

[grunt]

Sunak appears to be a psychopath (2).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_Y2_ruXIAA2QzZ?format=jpg&name=medium

[grunt]

There are 59 Westminster seats in Scotland. Six of them are held by Tories.

Four Scottish areas just got given Levelling Up funding. Three of those four areas were in constituencies held by Tory MPs.

What are the chances, eh?

[Kato]

There are 59 Westminster seats in Scotland. Six of them are held by Tories.

Four Scottish areas just got given Levelling Up funding. Three of those four areas were in constituencies held by Tory MPs.

What are the chances, eh?Oi! To be fair Rishi publicly admitted that he was happy to divert funding away from inner-city areas towards tóraidhe voting ones. Full of old people those places, like the ones the current pm, him, himself wanted dead.

It's like the great rock and roll swindle, only that swindle was thought up after the fact and the alleged perp walked away with zilch. This one is broad daylight. Bunko lying thiefs up front one after another. Societal historians will have a field day with this lot after they've wrung the last dregs out the country. Best comparison is post the napoleonic smash and grab they performed, but don't tell anyone I told you that, innit etc.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Charity run by husband of Tory peer to shut down - TFN (https://tfn.scot/news/charity-run-by-husband-of-tory-peer-to-shut-down)

The Barrowman Foundation’s accounts could remain unpublished.
A charity run by the husband of a Scottish Tory peer has been shut down and its account will remain a mystery.
The Barrowman Foundation, run by Baroness Michelle Mone's husband Doug Barrowman, is to be dissolved and remains late with its accounts for last year.
The Sunday Mail has reported that the Foundation (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/michelle-mones-husbands-charity-shuts-31472669) is being dissolved days after watchdogs found faults in its operations after a 14-month inquiry.


personally i think the British Nationalist Press should concentrate more on ipadgate, 11K is a lot more than the millions stolen by Baroness Thief

[grunt]

Lying Tories' lying deputy Chair lying Lee Anderson suggests that if the Rwanda scheme fails, asylum seekers should be sent to live in Orkney.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/send-asylum-seekers-to-remote-scottish-islands-if-rwanda-deal-fails-says-tory-deputy-chair-lee-anderson/ar-AA1klstp?ocid=socialshare&pc=LCTS&cvid=24bfdb60d0d441a5b1698af6c0c246a9&ei=14


The controversial MP called for those arriving in the UK via small boats to be housed on the Orkney Islands, which he said would be “perfect” for people fleeing persecution.

[lapsedhibee]

Lying Tories' lying deputy Chair lying Lee Anderson suggests that if the Rwanda scheme fails, asylum seekers should be sent to live in Orkney.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/send-asylum-seekers-to-remote-scottish-islands-if-rwanda-deal-fails-says-tory-deputy-chair-lee-anderson/ar-AA1klstp?ocid=socialshare&pc=LCTS&cvid=24bfdb60d0d441a5b1698af6c0c246a9&ei=14

Orkney? That seems extravagant. Why not Stockton?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1727346110417564137

[Ozyhibby]

Lying Tories' lying deputy Chair lying Lee Anderson suggests that if the Rwanda scheme fails, asylum seekers should be sent to live in Orkney.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/send-asylum-seekers-to-remote-scottish-islands-if-rwanda-deal-fails-says-tory-deputy-chair-lee-anderson/ar-AA1klstp?ocid=socialshare&pc=LCTS&cvid=24bfdb60d0d441a5b1698af6c0c246a9&ei=14

Is he suggesting ending freedom of movement with Orkney?


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[Stairway 2 7]

Stop the boats and the hundreds of migrants the tories shout and then let in mass migration never seen before in the UK.

Wow net migration last year 672,000, the year before revised up to 745,000

1,417,000 more people living in Britain than 2 years previous. Pretty extraordinary levels of immigration which is great, although the tories might not like being known as the party of immigration

[JimBHibees]

Stop the boats and the hundreds of migrants the tories shout and then let in mass migration never seen before in the UK.

Wow net migration last year 672,000, the year before revised up to 745,000

1,417,000 more people living in Britain than 2 years previous. Pretty extraordinary levels of immigration which is great, although the tories might not like being known as the party of immigration

Yes numbers completely ignored by the media but let's focus on the boats nonsense. Where are these people mainly coming from in such numbers? India/Pakistan?

[Ozyhibby]

Stop the boats and the hundreds of migrants the tories shout and then let in mass migration never seen before in the UK.

Wow net migration last year 672,000, the year before revised up to 745,000

1,417,000 more people living in Britain than 2 years previous. Pretty extraordinary levels of immigration which is great, although the tories might not like being known as the party of immigration

Wasn’t Brexit supposed to sort that?[emoji6][emoji23]


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[Stairway 2 7]

Wasn’t Brexit supposed to sort that?[emoji6][emoji23]


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Nah it just changed it from Europeans to Asians and Africans. I'm sure that's what the Gammons voted for no, wonderful young people from Islamabad enriching our nation with a good work ethic, great culture and large families 👏

[Stairway 2 7]

Yes numbers completely ignored by the media but let's focus on the boats nonsense. Where are these people mainly coming from in such numbers? India/Pakistan?

EU numbers have shrunk loads but they have been replaced by Indians, Nigerians, Philippinos and from Hong Kong the most.

Boats are a slight of hand to make idiots think that they are tough on the poor people travelling over

[marinello59]

Yes numbers completely ignored by the media but let's focus on the boats nonsense. Where are these people mainly coming from in such numbers? India/Pakistan?

It’s the lead story on the BBC website, high up on Sky news and even the Daily Mail website is leading with it. Which is good as it highlights just how ridiculous and twisted the whole stop the boats thing is.

[Kato]

It’s the lead story on the BBC website, high up on Sky news and even the Daily Mail website is leading with it. Which is good as it highlights just how ridiculous and twisted the whole stop the boats thing is.It'll disappear soon but the "stop the boats" headlines will continue.

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[marinello59]

It'll disappear soon but the "stop the boats" headlines will continue.

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Well it won’t stay headline news, there’s rarely a plot twist once statistics have been announced :greengrin
The boats story has a new development virtually every day and it’s only right that the chaotic and repugnant nature of the Rwandan ‘solution’ continues to be scrutinised.

[JimBHibees]

EU numbers have shrunk loads but they have been replaced by Indians, Nigerians, Philippinos and from Hong Kong the most.

Boats are a slight of hand to make idiots think that they are tough on the poor people travelling over

Agree the boats are a complete diversion. So basically ex empire countries though not sure if Philipinnes was.

[lapsedhibee]

So basically ex empire countries.

Come over here, speaking English on our buses.

[Stairway 2 7]

Agree the boats are a complete diversion. So basically ex empire countries though not sure if Philipinnes was.

Just read the new list and it's as you say ex empire and China which have a huge number of students.

Indian (253,000), Nigerian (141,000), Chinese (89,000), Pakistani (55,000)

We can't really complain when we colonise a country by blood, steal its resources for decades then all they want to do is come and work.

[JimBHibees]

Come over here, speaking English on our buses.

:greengrin

[JimBHibees]

Just read the new list and it's as you say ex empire and China which have a huge number of students.

Indian (253,000), Nigerian (141,000), Chinese (89,000), Pakistani (55,000)

We can't really complain when we colonise a country by blood, steal its resources for decades then all they want to do is come and work.

Yep you reap what you sow. Would have thought that immigration rules would have been changed unless they can come in on a long standing agreement assume many will have families here already. Giving how appallingly the Windrush generation have been treated surprise the large numbers have happened under tory watch

[Ozyhibby]

Yep you reap what you sow. Would have thought that immigration rules would have been changed unless they can come in on a long standing agreement assume many will have families here already. Giving how appallingly the Windrush generation have been treated surprise the large numbers have happened under tory watch

Tories want cheap Labour and don’t care how they get it. They just need their supporters to believe they are against immigration. Lucky for them, those people are not difficult to fool.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

(1) James O'Brien on X: "The descent of The Times (editor Tony Gallagher) to post-truth depths previously plumbed by the Sun (ex-editor Tony Gallagher), Telegraph (ex-editor Tony Gallagher) & Mail (ex-deputy editor Tony Gallagher) is close to complete. (He also has a cameo in How They Broke Britain.)" / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1727617452467519898?t=hr7xWMbododOBXv1yQvmkA&s=19&fbclid=IwAR013zbTRy7tdp7vO2Prdlxc2RYGnsTPyA2Ar3l6K sqrx5Uhtu1ts_eO0Do)

[grunt]

Nadine Dorries wilts under enormous pressure from interviewer Iain Dale and admits - under significant duress - who she thinks changed the name on her recommendation for chair of the BBC.

"I'm never going to say". 11 seconds later ... :greengrin

https://x.com/LBC/status/1728028190617342066?s=20

[grunt]

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_pvtXMXUAAXHkB?format=jpg&name=medium

[grunt]

Fresh from showing us he doesn't know how to fill a car with petrol and doesn't know how to use a contactless debit card, here's our esteemed* Prime Minister showing us he doesn't know how to use a hammer.

https://x.com/DachshundColin/status/1728046746138222681?s=20

*By some perhaps, not by me.

Edit:

Boo! He was apparently told to use the side of the hammer. Oh well, fun while it lasted.

https://x.com/lizziedearden/status/1728074623823012260?s=20

[Kato]

Boo! He was apparently told to use the side of the hammer. Oh well, fun while it lasted.

https://x.com/lizziedearden/status/1728074623823012260?s=20

Still though

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[Ozyhibby]

Fresh from showing us he doesn't know how to fill a car with petrol and doesn't know how to use a contactless debit card, here's our esteemed* Prime Minister showing us he doesn't know how to use a hammer.

https://x.com/DachshundColin/status/1728046746138222681?s=20

*By some perhaps, not by me.

Edit:

Boo! He was apparently told to use the side of the hammer. Oh well, fun while it lasted.

https://x.com/lizziedearden/status/1728074623823012260?s=20

Who would do that? Why would you use the side of a hammer? That’s not how they are designed.


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[lapsedhibee]

Who would do that? Why would you use the side of a hammer? That’s not how they are designed.


Sometimes useful in a confined space.

[lapsedhibee]

Boo! He was apparently told to use the side of the hammer. Oh well, fun while it lasted.

https://x.com/lizziedearden/status/1728074623823012260?s=20

More fool him for not realising he was being pranked. Next week he dresses up to go to the builders' merchant for a sky hook.

[babahibs]

More fool him for not realising he was being pranked. Next week he dresses up to go to the builders' merchant for a sky hook.

Sent to the storeroom for a Long Stand

[Moulin Yarns]

More fool him for not realising he was being pranked. Next week he dresses up to go to the builders' merchant for a sky hook.

To buy a double headed screwdriver. 😂

[JimBHibees]

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_pvtXMXUAAXHkB?format=jpg&name=medium

He’s not Scottish though is he :greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

He’s not Scottish though is he :greengrinGuessing it was either him or Baroness Mone[emoji6]

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[grunt]

Lying Tory liars don't even know which museum displays the Elgin Marbles!

https://x.com/ConHome/status/1729540094288151013?s=20

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAClX3_WMAAdSr3?format=jpg&name=large

[Bostonhibby]

Lying Tory liars don't even know which museum displays the Elgin Marbles!

https://x.com/ConHome/status/1729540094288151013?s=20

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAClX3_WMAAdSr3?format=jpg&name=largeTo be fair, they probably never actually played marbles at Eton.

I'm pretty sure the media will be all over this major cock up given how important the issue seems to have become over the last few days?

It must be a big one as even Sunak has surfaced.

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[Just Alf]

Never seems to stop

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/nov/29/tory-mp-who-chided-gambling-regulator-received-8000-from-betting-industry?CMP=share_btn_link

[lapsedhibee]

Never seems to stop

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/nov/29/tory-mp-who-chided-gambling-regulator-received-8000-from-betting-industry?CMP=share_btn_link

Oink oink :agree:

[grunt]

Never seems to stop

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/nov/29/tory-mp-who-chided-gambling-regulator-received-8000-from-betting-industry?CMP=share_btn_link


Oink oink :agree:

"He was not found to have breached parliamentary standards." ****ers.

[Dan Sarf]

"He was not found to have breached parliamentary standards." ****ers.


"Whittaker said the hospitality he received had never influenced his views on gambling."

So that's alright then.

[Bostonhibby]

"Whittaker said the hospitality he received had never influenced his views on gambling."

So that's alright then.It's not influenced his views, he's always found the industry very beneficial

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[grunt]

Just an oversight. Nothing to see here

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAKY02rWQAAtpiu?format=jpg&name=medium

[grunt]

What does Lee Anderson have against Orkney?? This isn't the first time he's mentioned Orkney in recent weeks.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/lee-anderson-tells-ursula-von-der-leyen-to-shut-up-after-she-suggested-reversing-brexit/ar-AA1kMzHR


But Mr Anderson, the deputy chairman of the Conservative Party, told GB News: “So the generation that fixed the problems in Europe was my grandad’s generation.

“He put a British Army uniform on … he went to fight the Nazis, he went all across North Africa, through Sicily, through Italy, seen some horrible things. That was the generation that fixed the problems in Europe. She [Ursula von der Leyen] needs to shut up.”

Asked if he believed the UK will rejoin the EU in his lifetime, he said: “I hope not because if we do I’m moving to Orkney isles.”

[Bostonhibby]

What does Lee Anderson have against Orkney?? This isn't the first time he's mentioned Orkney in recent weeks.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/lee-anderson-tells-ursula-von-der-leyen-to-shut-up-after-she-suggested-reversing-brexit/ar-AA1kMzHRHe might have joined the SNP by then?

Labour one year until it became necessary to sack him, no problem as he always wanted to be a Tory. There's a real chance he will lose his seat next election so another political flip surely beckons?

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[cabbageandribs1875]

The European...

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/406050060_737083591779510_7564216556988092620_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dd5e9f&_nc_ohc=8W9d-d47E3AAX8kfOwd&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=00_AfD69L0LmiC9_wvpnrfjnNyHho3q4eSosnoru3OQjpmX aw&oe=656D5F0C

[grunt]

Rishi doing well at keeping the Greek people cheering for the UK ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAMpcMBXcAAsDJO?format=jpg&name=medium

[MKHIBEE]

Rishi doing well at keeping the Greek people cheering for the UK ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAMpcMBXcAAsDJO?format=jpg&name=mediumGood for them.

[Hibby70]

Rishi doing well at keeping the Greek people cheering for the UK ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAMpcMBXcAAsDJO?format=jpg&name=medium

Mouse face 😂😂😂

[Bostonhibby]

Rishi doing well at keeping the Greek people cheering for the UK ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAMpcMBXcAAsDJO?format=jpg&name=mediumMore or less what he was after?

Finally found some non UK nation the daily mail can froth about and whip their 100,000 readers into a frenzy about.

Not far away from having to address some real issues so any deflection will do?

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[Hibbyradge]

Rishi doing well at keeping the Greek people cheering for the UK ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAMpcMBXcAAsDJO?format=jpg&name=medium

Do you have a link to that photo?

[grunt]

Do you have a link to that photo?

https://www.elora.gr/portal/patriotikos-xoros/4676-pagkosmios-salos-gia-to-protoselido-tis-e-o-me-tin-apantisi-ston-soynak

[cabbageandribs1875]

spot little Rishi during his short visit yesterday

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2023/12/01/TELEMMGLPICT000358515815_17014589257220_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4Bqa10l_kz_QMaqvRigytlqcQPt836dHZM3lhKucQ105p k.jpeg?imwidth=680

[weecounty hibby]

Thats what happens when you think you are the biggest, bestest most important country in the world but in reality most others think you are *****

[Bostonhibby]

spot little Rishi during his short visit yesterday

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2023/12/01/TELEMMGLPICT000358515815_17014589257220_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4Bqa10l_kz_QMaqvRigytlqcQPt836dHZM3lhKucQ105p k.jpeg?imwidth=680Was he serving the canapes?

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[1875godsgift]

spot little Rishi during his short visit yesterday

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2023/12/01/TELEMMGLPICT000358515815_17014589257220_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4Bqa10l_kz_QMaqvRigytlqcQPt836dHZM3lhKucQ105p k.jpeg?imwidth=680

Where's Wally?

[Bostonhibby]

spot little Rishi during his short visit yesterday

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2023/12/01/TELEMMGLPICT000358515815_17014589257220_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4Bqa10l_kz_QMaqvRigytlqcQPt836dHZM3lhKucQ105p k.jpeg?imwidth=680Is this the group photo of the latest batch of anyone but EU citizens and refugees that the Waiter has granted UK visas to?

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[Jack]

What I'm not understanding is why there's no demonstrations by Stop Oil and other climate activists 🤔

[CropleyWasGod]

What I'm not understanding is why there's no demonstrations by Stop Oil and other climate activists 🤔

Air travel and fear of losing limbs? :cb

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67610480

No, just speed up the process in the UK.

[grunt]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67610480

No, just speed up the process in the UK.
I wish these *******s would just go away.

[lapsedhibee]

I wish these *******s would just go away.

They won't go away before they've had a right good go at undermining the right to a state pension (https://twitter.com/stephenctimms/status/1731313291564089658).

[Kato]

They won't go away before they've had a right good go at undermining the right to a state pension (https://twitter.com/stephenctimms/status/1731313291564089658).That'll please the "hate socialism" brigade.

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[stokesmessiah]

What a shambles of an immigration policy…I give up I really do

[grunt]

What a shambles of an immigration policy…I give up I really do
The Tories need to go.

[stokesmessiah]

What does that even mean for the care sector?

[Hibrandenburg]

They won't go away before they've had a right good go at undermining the right to a state pension (https://twitter.com/stephenctimms/status/1731313291564089658).

Good luck getting the rights to check my German bank account.

[Ozyhibby]

What does that even mean for the care sector?

Care sector is finished now with new immigration rules. If you want care in the future you will need to go private and it will be pricey.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231204/a437490783ccaedba9673a95b5456a64.jpg

It’s good that rich people can still bring the family.[emoji849][emoji35]


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[Callum_62]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231204/a437490783ccaedba9673a95b5456a64.jpg

It’s good that rich people can still bring the family.[emoji849][emoji35]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThis is absolutely ridiculous

We thankfully made it when the threshold was £18600 so we have started a life here with my wife who teaches kids btw (irrelevant to the UK gov it seems)

No chance we could have qualified under these new rules

Incredible really that this is what the UK has become

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[grunt]

Incredible really that this is what the UK has become

This is not the UK; this is the ****ing Tories.

[Ozyhibby]

This is not the UK; this is the ****ing Tories.

Starmer is not changing these rules. This is the UK.


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[grunt]

Starmer is not changing these rules. This is the UK.
Has he said that?

[MKHIBEE]

Has he said that?
I don’t know if he said that or not but I would bet on him keeping the policy

[grunt]

I don’t know if he said that or not but I would bet on him keeping the policyHow much? :wink:

[grunt]

I don’t know if he said that or not but I would bet on him keeping the policyYou could be right. How ****ing depressing.

https://x.com/LBC/status/1731758520876302697?s=20

[Bostonhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231204/a437490783ccaedba9673a95b5456a64.jpg

It’s good that rich people can still bring the family.[emoji849][emoji35]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou've got to wonder which government to blame for the apparent crisis our government is now pulling out all the stops to solve.

Who created the situation that granted the 700,000 plus visas recently?

Thank goodness, Rishi's going to solve it. I'm guessing all his rich chums and party donators have got everyone in they want to by now.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

not surprisingly the vile PoS Johnson is trending #BorisJohnson - Search / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23BorisJohnson&src=trend_click&vertical=trends) quite entertaining

[Sylar]

I'm aware these impacts will be far reaching, but this means not a single postdoctoral researcher/scientist in the UK will be able to come from overseas under these new rules. An expert in their chosen field, with a PhD, will not be able to get a job at a UK institution unless they're into senior lecturer territory (as even entry level lectureships are less than £38k at many institutions).

Utter madness.

[Moulin Yarns]

This has been sneeked through


Warning: The government has sneaked in a new clause to the Data Protection and Digital Information Bill that hands them the power to inspect the bank accounts of anyone claiming a social security benefit.

If you're in receipt of child benefit, a state pension or universal credit, this concerns you ⬇️


https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/new-legislation-gives-government-permission-to-snoop-on-your-bank-account-364408/?fbclid=IwAR3XA89weQHzsIEN7A2TSigPcWM183fGKTkH7Bya ainNVTcgeR8e0RXAr24

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/tompeck/status/1731771725744898321?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

New rules mean only people earning £38k a year will be able to marry a foreigner.


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[Callum_62]

https://x.com/tompeck/status/1731771725744898321?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

New rules mean only people earning £38k a year will be able to marry a foreigner.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMarry doesn't even come into it - have a relationship in your home country is more accurate

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[Bostonhibby]

https://x.com/tompeck/status/1731771725744898321?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

New rules mean only people earning £38k a year will be able to marry a foreigner.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkFeels like a form of social engineering, this is something that is unlikely to have much of an effect on Nasty party donors and supporters.

What next?

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[Moulin Yarns]

This has been sneeked through


Warning: The government has sneaked in a new clause to the Data Protection and Digital Information Bill that hands them the power to inspect the bank accounts of anyone claiming a social security benefit.

If you're in receipt of child benefit, a state pension or universal credit, this concerns you ⬇️


https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/new-legislation-gives-government-permission-to-snoop-on-your-bank-account-364408/?fbclid=IwAR3XA89weQHzsIEN7A2TSigPcWM183fGKTkH7Bya ainNVTcgeR8e0RXAr24

https://twitter.com/TheHarryHaz/status/1731766031608123712?t=ars9YUw-FnTMKt5J5XQkyQ&s=19

[lapsedhibee]

Feels like a form of social engineering, this is something that is unlikely to have much of an effect on Nasty party donors and supporters.


Appears to have awakened one person at The Telegraph (https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1731789928437031074) anyway.

[Bostonhibby]

Appears to have awakened one person at The Telegraph (https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1731789928437031074) anyway.Nothing like a bit of self interest to get a Nasty to break ranks.

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[hibee]

I'm aware these impacts will be far reaching, but this means not a single postdoctoral researcher/scientist in the UK will be able to come from overseas under these new rules. An expert in their chosen field, with a PhD, will not be able to get a job at a UK institution unless they're into senior lecturer territory (as even entry level lectureships are less than £38k at many institutions).

Utter madness.

I don’t know anything about the role but I’m surprised to hear that an expert with a PHD would be willing to move countries for less than £38k, should the UK institutions not be paying more than that for a scientist?

[Andy Bee]

You've got to wonder which government to blame for the apparent crisis our government is now pulling out all the stops to solve.

Who created the situation that granted the 700,000 plus visas recently?

Thank goodness, Rishi's going to solve it. I'm guessing all his rich chums and party donators have got everyone in they want to by now.

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It's worth noting that the 742,000 figure is net migration so it's more like 1.3 - 1.4m visas granted as nearly 600k left the UK. That's just crazy numbers considering the state of the NHS and house building in this country, it also makes you wonder how stringent the checks are to be able to push through that many applications. It also puts into perspective what a load of bull this so called "small boats crisis" really is.

[Ozyhibby]

It's worth noting that the 742,000 figure is net migration so it's more like 1.3 - 1.4m visas granted as nearly 600k left the UK. That's just crazy numbers considering the state of the NHS and house building in this country, it also makes you wonder how stringent the checks are to be able to push through that many applications. It also puts into perspective what a load of bull this so called "small boats crisis" really is.

Scotlands population would be falling if it wasn’t for immigration.


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[Andy Bee]

Scotlands population would be falling if it wasn’t for immigration.


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Not disagreeing at all bud, on re-reading my post it looks like I'm just complaining about the numbers which I suppose I am but really I'm complaining about the lack of impact these numbers are making on the problems the country is facing. I'd of liked nothing more than those 1.4m people coming in to be nurses, doctors, care workers etc and their families but they don't seem to be effecting the vacancies needing filled which suggests the system in place aint working. If we can attract that number of people every year then we should see vacancies falling in the NHS for example. I've no problem with 4m people coming in and say 750k of them with experience in health or other experiences that we need and I don't see why setting up a system that allows that would be that hard.

[MKHIBEE]

How much? :wink:
Depends on the odds!

[Stairway 2 7]

Tories say this will drop net migration by 300k to sit at 300k net increase per year. Its utterly stupid. Immigrants are net contributers on average are young and have larger families.

The problem is obviously we don't use the bounty from immigration to build houses and increase services, but that's Tories to a tee

[JimBHibees]

I'm aware these impacts will be far reaching, but this means not a single postdoctoral researcher/scientist in the UK will be able to come from overseas under these new rules. An expert in their chosen field, with a PhD, will not be able to get a job at a UK institution unless they're into senior lecturer territory (as even entry level lectureships are less than £38k at many institutions).

Utter madness.

That is quite clearly a despicable outcome

[Stairway 2 7]

Couple of new doctors strikes set for England, before Christmas and after New year's. Scotlands doctors have clearly a better deal. Seems politically insane to pick a fight with doctors at the start of a GE year at The NHS's busiest time

[easty]

I'm aware these impacts will be far reaching, but this means not a single postdoctoral researcher/scientist in the UK will be able to come from overseas under these new rules. An expert in their chosen field, with a PhD, will not be able to get a job at a UK institution unless they're into senior lecturer territory (as even entry level lectureships are less than £38k at many institutions).

Utter madness.

A postdoc researcher at Edinburgh would come in at grade 7 at the lowest. Starting salary for that grade is £37099, but there are steps within the grade and it'll be easy enough to offer someone a starting salary at a step that takes them above the threshold.

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/prospect_clark/status/1732300969390592142?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

Wonder how Scotland fares?


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[cabbageandribs1875]

BREAKING: Robert Jenrick has quit as immigration minister, according to reports.

It is believed he took the decision after Rishi Sunak rejected his demands to opt out of European human rights laws.

[marinello59]

BREAKING: Robert Jenrick has quit as immigration minister, according to reports.

It is believed he took the decision after Rishi Sunak rejected his demands to opt out of European human rights laws.


Excellent. They are fighting to the death now. The right of their party is dragging them towards a massive electoral pasting.

[Ozyhibby]

Excellent. They are fighting to the death now. The right of their party is dragging them towards a massive electoral pasting.

January election would be nice.


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[Sylar]

A postdoc researcher at Edinburgh would come in at grade 7 at the lowest. Starting salary for that grade is £37099, but there are steps within the grade and it'll be easy enough to offer someone a starting salary at a step that takes them above the threshold.

I decided to have a quick look for PDRA jobs across Scotland after you posted that, as I was curious as to how reflective it was - I'm quite far past PDRA level these days so I haven't kept tabs on what payscales look like, but this is Scotland:

Glasgow: £32,868
Strathclyde: £31,396
Aberdeen: avg.£36,542 (no jobs being advertised and the link to their payscale doesn't work - range taken from Indeed).
Dundee: £36,024
St Andrews: £37,099 (must use same payscale as you guys?)
Heriot Watt: £36,023
GCU: £32,236
UHI: (I think postdocs here are rare, but their lectureships start at £35,170)
UWS: £32,332

Then you have the 'prestigious' Oxbridge scholarship offerings, where you get a reduced salary in lieu of food and board - I seen one being advertised the other day at £27k. No international applicant is going to be able to take up those roles moving forward.

So isn't it fantastic - we can now apply for Horizon Grants again, but (most of us) won't be able to recruit overseas PDRAs to work on them!

Apologies to everyone else on this thread - this is quite a specific tangent/side-chat!

[grunt]

I was criticised on this thread for describing the lying Tory party as fascists.
Switch on your TV right now and I think you'll find I was correct.

[lapsedhibee]

I was criticised on this thread for describing the lying Tory party as fascists.
Switch on your TV right now and I think you'll find I was correct.

European fascists have traditionally been able to build transport infrastructure, rather than just talk about delivering it, so no.

[grunt]

European fascists have traditionally been able to build transport infrastructure, rather than just talk about delivering it, so no.
You're simply saying that the lying Tory liars are so incompetent that they're not very good at being fascists. They still have the fascist intent.
Sunak has just "dis-applied" the Human Rights Act. Think about that for a moment.

[lapsedhibee]

You're simply saying that the lying Tory liars are so incompetent that they're not very good at being fascists. They still have the fascist intent.


Fantasy Fascists :agree:

[Stairway 2 7]

It's spreading France ignored the human rights court and expelled an immigrants it was told not to. Its going to become a bigger feature of European politics as people of the global South flee famine and climate emergencies.

Immigrants are great for an economy although stupid politicians play it that they aren't

https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2023/12/01/la-france-procede-a-l-expulsion-en-passant-outre-une-decision-de-la-cedh-pour-la-premiere-fois_6203343_3224.html

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/jasongroves1/status/1732879076338131099?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A


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[Stairway 2 7]

https://x.com/jasongroves1/status/1732879076338131099?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A


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It's a weird hill for them to die on.

[lapsedhibee]

It's a weird hill for them to die on.

Rwanda scheme's never going to work or even happen, but UKGov has perhaps inadvertently hit on a very important principle here, namely ignoring or abolishing internationally accepted laws if they don't suit the people of Britain, and remaking our laws to suit us rather than allow foreign courts to decide what's right and what's wrong. Putting it in to law that Rwanda is safe is a good start, and the few hundred million pounds that that's costing will be as nothing compared to what we'll be able to save going forward. The cost of phasing out gas boilers, for example, is projected to be enormous. But we can simply change the laws of chemistry so that we don't need to do any of that green crap. Government by Viz Top Tips. Genius!

[Bostonhibby]

I was criticised on this thread for describing the lying Tory party as fascists.
Switch on your TV right now and I think you'll find I was correct.Fascist wannabes, but they are working hard at it there's no doubt.

They need a distraction from the true horrors of their behaviour during Covid and this is probably a very welcome one, especially amongst their supporters and beneficiaries.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Very good from George Monbiot, performative nonsense from the tories

https://twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1732867276422963371

[lapsedhibee]

Johnson's appearance at the Covid Inquiry summed up quite neatly:

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[grunt]

It's all about to kick off in the media about Michelle Mone. She's releasing a video Sunday morning setting out her version of events.

[McD]

It's all about to kick off in the media about Michelle Mone. She's releasing a video Sunday morning setting out her version of events.



Hopefully this is the start of her getting hauled over the coals, and as much of the money as possible reclaimed to the public purse


Did her ‘company’ actually provide any PPE? If not then criminal charges of fraud should be brought as well

[Kato]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/09/civil-servant-hinted-cash-call-dogs-off-baroness-mone/

Good. They will throw as many people as they can under the bus and draw attention to the other contracts too.

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[grunt]

If anyone has the patience to watch all 71 minutes of Michelle Mone's self justification, it's here:


https://youtu.be/cb_DvKEcxrM?si=7t4txorcZ-dV7LUd

[MKHIBEE]

Johnson's appearance at the Covid Inquiry summed up quite neatly:

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That would have been a massive improvement

[Bostonhibby]

Hopefully this is the start of her getting hauled over the coals, and as much of the money as possible reclaimed to the public purse


Did her ‘company’ actually provide any PPE? If not then criminal charges of fraud should be brought as wellA live Q&A along the lines of Handy Andy's one with Emily Maitlis would be much more revealing but the Baroness is probably too "fly" for that.

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[speedy_gonzales]

Did her ‘company’ actually provide any PPE? If not then criminal charges of fraud should be brought as well

That quoted Telegraph article is suggesting it's costing £3.2Mil per year to store the dispute PPE, have to assume there must be a decent volume of gear for it to cost that much to securely store?!?

[McD]

That quoted Telegraph article is suggesting it's costing £3.2Mil per year to store the dispute PPE, have to assume there must be a decent volume of gear for it to cost that much to securely store?!?



You’ve actually reminded me of something that’s occurred to me a few times.


How ‘securely’ does it need to be stored? It’s not running away anywhere, and if it’s substandard, it’s unlikely to be stolen, so why does it cost that much?

[Bostonhibby]

You’ve actually reminded me of something that’s occurred to me a few times.


How ‘securely’ does it need to be stored? It’s not running away anywhere, and if it’s substandard, it’s unlikely to be stolen, so why does it cost that much?Must need to be stored expensively?

Could it be because the storage facilities are run by favoured (VIP lane types[emoji23]) supporters, donators or members of a certain political party and they've got to keep the trough filled?

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[Jack]

You’ve actually reminded me of something that’s occurred to me a few times.


How ‘securely’ does it need to be stored? It’s not running away anywhere, and if it’s substandard, it’s unlikely to be stolen, so why does it cost that much?

Hopefully for the upcoming court cases as evidence.

[Just Alf]

You’ve actually reminded me of something that’s occurred to me a few times.


How ‘securely’ does it need to be stored? It’s not running away anywhere, and if it’s substandard, it’s unlikely to be stolen, so why does it cost that much?Aye, chuck it in a field somewhere until it can properly be disposed of ...probably in a landfill :-(

[McD]

Aye, chuck it in a field somewhere until it can properly be disposed of ...probably in a landfill :-(



I wasn’t suggesting just dumping it, I was referring to the cost of storing it being so expensive


I’m sure there actually will be uses for it that won’t need to be at the covid transmission standards, which also begs the question why it’s being stored rather than sold on for other uses (apart from the reason above re. evidence)

[MKHIBEE]

You’ve actually reminded me of something that’s occurred to me a few times.


How ‘securely’ does it need to be stored? It’s not running away anywhere, and if it’s substandard, it’s unlikely to be stolen, so why does it cost that much?

Its going to be used as evidence when they get round to finally get all those crooked ******* in court to answer for their crimes

[Just Alf]

I wasn’t suggesting just dumping it, I was referring to the cost of storing it being so expensive


I’m sure there actually will be uses for it that won’t need to be at the covid transmission standards, which also begs the question why it’s being stored rather than sold on for other uses (apart from the reason above re. evidence)I agree... was just trying to say we must be able to find somewhere cheaper to store it.. disused factory or warehouse etc :agree:

[Ozyhibby]

Its going to be used as evidence when they get round to finally get all those crooked ******* in court to answer for their crimes

There is no chance of that happening. The money has been banked and they have got away with it.


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[lapsedhibee]

There is no chance of that happening. The money has been banked and they have got away with it.

Appreciate you may be using a bit of artistic licence with the language, but it sounds as if you might be saying that the money can't be recovered because it's been put in/passed through a bank. Also appreciate Labour may be using a bit of artistic licence with the word 'will' but they've said that they will pursue recovery.

[MKHIBEE]

There is no chance of that happening. The money has been banked and they have got away with it.


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I know, my sarcasm obviously wasn’t obvious enough :wink:

[MKHIBEE]

Appreciate you may be using a bit of artistic licence with the language, but it sounds as if you might be saying that the money can't be recovered because it's been put in/passed through a bank. Also appreciate Labour may be using a bit of artistic licence with the word 'will' but they've said that they will pursue recovery.
Labour have said a lot of things that have turned out to be pie in the sky

[Stairway 2 7]

See a poor soul has taken his life on Bibby Stockholm, not surprising when you treat people like criminals

[Andy Bee]

A wee bit light hearted festive cheer. This is quality from @PoliticsJoe https://twitter.com/i/status/1734546162370191815

[grunt]

https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1734665363713925198?s=20


For all the spin and bluster over the past week, not a single Conservative MP voted against Rishi Sunak's plan to break international law and send refugees to a brutal dictatorship already declared unsafe by the UK's own highest court.

*******s.

[Kato]

A corker. Has everything - misinformation, misdirection and pure, insular hatred.

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1734627430290051383?t=TPw1bvaGd-YcjiXXgrHOXw&s=19

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[grunt]

A corker. Has everything - misinformation, misdirection and pure, insular hatred.

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1734627430290051383?t=TPw1bvaGd-YcjiXXgrHOXw&s=19

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkRacist ****er.

[Kato]

Racist ****er.Goebbals level statement from this nonentity. Just adds to the fascist accusations on here- lies directly about a problem they've engineered by giving a fictional, racist reason.

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[grunt]

Totally normal country.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBLFCMkWEAEXHoa?format=jpg&name=small

[Hibrandenburg]

Totally normal country.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBLFCMkWEAEXHoa?format=jpg&name=small

Looks like Jim has awarded himself a Jim'l fix it Badge.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1734665363713925198?s=20



*******s.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67697193

Climate minister in 6800 mile round trip to vote!!!!

[grunt]

Ian Dunt, on the Rwanda Bill:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBOIujtXYAAVlVd?format=jpg&name=medium

[grunt]

I understand that a lot of people find Steve Bray and his harassment of Westminster MPs annoying, but sometimes you just have to admire his tenacity.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBNw1WDW8AA4jJw?format=jpg&name=medium

[stokesmessiah]

A corker. Has everything - misinformation, misdirection and pure, insular hatred.

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1734627430290051383?t=TPw1bvaGd-YcjiXXgrHOXw&s=19

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The funny thing with this video is, he has just basically listed off the Tory failings!? Migration numbers have gone up under them and funding of the NHS in real terms has gone down.

[grunt]

Tory Corruption.


Parliament's Standards Commissioner finds that suspended Conservative MP Scott Benton:

- Offered to lobby ministers and ask questions on behalf of gambling lobbyists for cash
- Offered to leak confidential info
- Made it clear he was "corrupt and for sale" and so were other MPs


In his interview with the Standards Commissioner, Scott Benton said he couldn’t think clearly as the sting took place in a noisy and distracting environment.

On the tape, he commented on how quiet it was ...

[Hiber-nation]

Michelle Mone and her hubby having a Prince Andrew moment on Kuenssberg. Shameless liars.

[Bostonhibby]

Michelle Mone and her hubby having a Prince Andrew moment on Kuenssberg. Shameless liars.Breathtaking that they don't seem to see what they've done wrong and are happy to deflect off into hiding behind the protecting their family myth-from what?

Protecting the money they grabbed was the real early focus of their attention and they set about it very quickly and efficiently.

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[lapsedhibee]

Breathtaking that they don't seem to see what they've done wrong and are happy to deflect off into hiding behind the protecting their family myth-from what?

Protecting the money they grabbed was the real early focus of their attention and they set about it very quickly and efficiently.


So unlucky to get 'caught up' in a scandal like this. Could have happened to any of us. Have they announced a crowdfunder for their upcoming legal fees yet? Or does taxpayer pay as she's a public servant in the House of Lords?

[Hiber-nation]

Breathtaking that they don't seem to see what they've done wrong and are happy to deflect off into hiding behind the protecting their family myth-from what?

Protecting the money they grabbed was the real early focus of their attention and they set about it very quickly and efficiently.

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Too busy swanning around on luxury yachts to understand what's going on in the real world. Completely detached from reality.

How many other cases like this that have conveniently been covered up?

[Bostonhibby]

So unlucky to get 'caught up' in a scandal like this. Could have happened to any of us. Have they announced a crowdfunder for their upcoming legal fees yet? Or does taxpayer pay as she's a public servant in the House of Lords?[emoji16]

If you follow their logic they couldn't really do crowd funding as they wouldn't be able to put their name to it as it's not how the husband says he does business - at least until the evidence overwhelmingly exposes the original lie - maybe a quick word with Michael Gove again will help them out.

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[lapsedhibee]

If you follow their logic they couldn't really do crowd funding as they wouldn't be able to put their name to it as it's not how the husband says he does business - at least until the evidence overwhelmingly exposes the original lie - maybe a quick word with Michael Gove again will help them out.


Ah, right. To be fair to him and people like him then the government should probably set up some sort of scheme where raising funds could be done without publicity or press intrusion. A sort of 'lane' to protect the rights of rich people to privacy.

[Bostonhibby]

Ah, right. To be fair to him and people like him then the government should probably set up some sort of scheme where raising funds could be done without publicity or press intrusion. A sort of 'lane' to protect the rights of rich people to privacy.There's a taxpayer funded scheme for rich ministers who get caught up in their own web of lies already. It's paying for all Bozo's partygate expenses.

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[Jack]

I can't find the outcome of Michelle Mones husband, Douglas Barrowman (tory donor), tax evasion court case in Spain? I assume its ongoing.

They do come across more of a criminal gang than they do the aristocracy. More Eastenders than Downton Abbey 😆

[Bostonhibby]

I can't find the outcome of Michelle Mones husband, Douglas Barrowman (tory donor), tax evasion court case in Spain? I assume its ongoing.

They do come across more of a criminal gang than they do the aristocracy. More Eastenders than Downton Abbey [emoji38]Probably paid the tax off with all that money they got from the UK taxpayers?



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[Hiber-nation]

I can't find the outcome of Michelle Mones husband, Douglas Barrowman (tory donor), tax evasion court case in Spain? I assume its ongoing.

They do come across more of a criminal gang than they do the aristocracy. More Eastenders than Downton Abbey 😆

I wonder if Michelle has dropped Lord Big Dave a few WhatsApps for help since he put her there in the first place. Poor Michelle was merely trying to better herself. Who can blame her for trying to aspire to have the wealth and power of Cameron and his chums by lying and cheating, it's the Tory way.

[Bostonhibby]

I wonder if Michelle has dropped Lord Big Dave a few WhatsApps for help since he put her there in the first place. Poor Michelle was merely trying to better herself. Who can blame her for trying to aspire to have the wealth and power of Cameron and his chums by lying and cheating, it's the Tory way.Tories being Tories. Everyone else was at the trough and they wanted theirs. That's why they can't see any wrong. Never will

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[grunt]

Angela Rayner was right.

[neil7908]

I'm so so angry the more I read about Mone. The Guardian has been covering this for years and it's been clear to anyone with half a brain cell that they were at it.

But no, it was met with the usual bluster and denial from her and her husband.

Now though we're to ignore the years of lying, and believe all is above board as they've been having a few nasty people on the Internet say mean things to them whilst they sip champagne on their yacht?

If there is even a sliver of justice in the world they will spend a long time behind bars. Somehow I doubt that though.

[grunt]

Pandemic Profiteer

https://x.com/ByDonkeys/status/1736806716938006584?s=20 (https://x.com/ByDonkeys/status/1736806716938006584?s=20)

[grunt]

Lord Bethell (Tory ****) who told the Covid inquiry he'd lost / sold / given away his phone and didn't have any of his old messages, has just posted a message from Lady Mone to him from October 2020 on Twitter. Oops, your Lordship?

[degenerated]

Pandemic Profiteer

https://x.com/ByDonkeys/status/1736806716938006584?s=20 (https://x.com/ByDonkeys/status/1736806716938006584?s=20)I immediately thought of this when I saw it yesterday

https://youtu.be/U8Kum8OUTuk?si=8nqebl3UvAtFWTA2

[grunt]

Speaking of her Ladyship, La Mone seems to be slinging some mud around at her former Tory colleagues.


Michael Gove and Sir Chris Wormald approved the purchase of 5 years supply of PPE when the remit was to build up only 4 months. They oversaw huge waste in PPE contracts. They have both had questions to answer for a very long time.


What is @RishiSunak talking about?

I was honest with the Cabinet Office, the Government and the NHS in my dealings with them.
They all knew about my involvement from the very beginning.

[cabbageandribs1875]

and another one https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/18/tory-mp-miriam-cates-investigated-standards-watchdog

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/410900395_10228524836719616_2186279031893684903_n. jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=3635dc&_nc_ohc=NKPEnDqn7ikAX_14apM&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfBdhPOxEVKPddZCYpsao4H_CTdP6d1BkNpelnwshLwY sw&oe=6585AF05

[Bostonhibby]

and another one https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/18/tory-mp-miriam-cates-investigated-standards-watchdog

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/410900395_10228524836719616_2186279031893684903_n. jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=3635dc&_nc_ohc=NKPEnDqn7ikAX_14apM&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfBdhPOxEVKPddZCYpsao4H_CTdP6d1BkNpelnwshLwY sw&oe=6585AF05They are currently investigating 8 MPs 7 tories and Andrew brigden who used to be a tory. Tories being tories.

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[grunt]

Scottish Tories chairman complaining about and blaming the SNP for the costs of Operation Branchform. Some brass neck.

https://x.com/craigwhoy1/status/1736502906512142371?s=61&t=-BLvE2XlsyxZYcSjKNkxtg

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/412386130_7045791498810954_7980499566627171269_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=c42490&_nc_ohc=QI9alsBw8tgAX_WjpFF&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfAjz8Sg3MoYnZk8ljswVcGk0M4BOBdi3KoKOBr7XRqw Og&oe=65861C33

Mad Nad is asking questions, she could maybe ask the same Question of just why Charlette Owen was gifted a salary for life
or Lebedev
or
or
or

[lapsedhibee]

Probably just a coincidence, rather than anything corrupt.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/19/penny-mordaunt-boris-johnsons-messages-vanished-from-my-phone

[McSwanky]

Probably just a coincidence, rather than anything corrupt.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/19/penny-mordaunt-boris-johnsons-messages-vanished-from-my-phoneTearing each other to shreds. You love to see it.

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[Hibrandenburg]

Tearing each other to shreds. You love to see it.

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That was always going to happen with this group of self serving egoists. The glue that held them together was mutual benefit, now that's gone it's every Tory for themselves.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Michelle the Moaner is starting to get all worked up

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/410957390_7046718062051631_6683732964901845443_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=c42490&_nc_ohc=O1fBjZc14AcAX-rMD5q&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfDXHCcn-S_GlPsd82JD5oQqHy6DKJ29WnCVxmevc3K1_A&oe=65865125

[Hibrandenburg]

Michelle the Moaner is starting to get all worked up

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/410957390_7046718062051631_6683732964901845443_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=c42490&_nc_ohc=O1fBjZc14AcAX-rMD5q&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfDXHCcn-S_GlPsd82JD5oQqHy6DKJ29WnCVxmevc3K1_A&oe=65865125

She is kind of right. The MMA recommended 100's of sources where the government could procure suitable PPE, but the government decided otherwise and the rest is history. She's definitely not the only one to have been caught with her hand in the cookie jar.

[J-C]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/412386130_7045791498810954_7980499566627171269_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=c42490&_nc_ohc=QI9alsBw8tgAX_WjpFF&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfAjz8Sg3MoYnZk8ljswVcGk0M4BOBdi3KoKOBr7XRqw Og&oe=65861C33

Mad Nad is asking questions, she could maybe ask the same Question of just why Charlette Owen was gifted a salary for life
or Lebedev
or
or
or

She's still pissed off she never got her life peerage haha

[Bostonhibby]

She's still pissed off she never got her life peerage hahaJust missed the gravy train......

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[grunt]

Her Ladyship continues her assault on Slimy Gove

https://x.com/MichelleMone/status/1737435583834706401?s=20


Will @MichaelGove release the communications he had with David Mellor during the pandemic?

[lapsedhibee]

Her Ladyship continues her assault on Slimy Gove

https://x.com/MichelleMone/status/1737435583834706401?s=20

Mone wrongly naming the notoriously Chelsea-shirt-wearing former Tory minister there. Hope she gets sued for bringing him into disrepute. :party:

[McSwanky]

As far as I can see it, Michelle's defence is:

"Yes, I'm a right ****, but there's bigger ****s than me. So please leave me alone."

As far as I'm concerned, I hope she takes a few of them down with her - but you dance with the devil and all that...

[grunt]

Spot the contradiction ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBx9d5gXUAAj2mp?format=jpg&name=large

[grunt]

More mud slinging from Her Ladyship:

https://x.com/MichelleMone/status/1737465628619849820?s=20


You have probably never heard of him, but Sir Chris Wormald is the man directly responsible for wasting £4bn on PPE. He has very serious questions to answer.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Ho Ho Ho

Michelle Mone sued to recover 'legal threat' costs | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/24002842.michelle-mone-sued-recover-legal-threat-costs/?ref=ebbn&nid=1457&u=8c7cbcbaa1741d7cbc339fe13eff0274&date=201223)

MICHELLE Mone is being sued by The New European in an effort to recover "thousands of pounds" the publisher spent responding to threats over its reporting of the PPE Medpro scandal.

The Good Law Project and the newspaper have instructed solicitors and Counsel and expect to begin the case against Mone early in the new year.
A spokesperson said this action was "highly unusual", but added that it was "necessary to put those making baseless defamation claims on notice".
They added: "High net worth individuals cannot be given a free hit against campaigners or media organisations.

The New European and Good Law Project believe the Guardian, The Mirror, Byline Times, The National, Tortoise – and a number of freelance reporters – have also spent time, money or both dealing with defamation threats connected to their reporting of PPE Medpro.

[Moulin Yarns]

Spot the contradiction ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBx9d5gXUAAj2mp?format=jpg&name=large

North London needs improved roads too. 😂

[grunt]

Her Ladyship is on a roll!

https://x.com/MichelleMone/status/1737499073970643025?s=20


A senior civil servant offered to make the NCA investigation into us go away if we paid the government a sum of money.

We have a recording of this on tape.

Shall we name the senior civil servant involved? @DHSCgovuk

[degenerated]

Her Ladyship is on a roll!

https://x.com/MichelleMone/status/1737499073970643025?s=20Ladyship is a bit of a stretch, she's like Jacqueline McCafferty from the limmy show

[Bostonhibby]

Ladyship is a bit of a stretch, she's like Jacqueline McCafferty from the limmy showShameless just about covers it.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231220/99a64721ca2c681c19a8ae4f8b5a9cff.jpg

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[degenerated]

Shameless just about covers it.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231220/99a64721ca2c681c19a8ae4f8b5a9cff.jpg

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https://youtu.be/cYPV1qoHbBQ?si=27alR7Ly8Zo3in1J

[grunt]

https://goodlawproject.org/sunak-took-16000-helicopter-ride-from-firm-who-won-huge-government-contracts/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=glp_post_investigation&utm_medium=social_media&utm_content=15-12-2023


Rishi Sunak took a helicopter journey worth £16,000 to a political visit, paid for by The Phoenix Partnership – a company that has won Government contracts that have so far totalled almost £140m.

[Moulin Yarns]

Merry Christmas everyone

https://www.facebook.com/reel/317360674451329?s=yWDuG2&fs=e

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBovK7yXMAAdE1I?format=jpg&name=medium

[grunt]

More from Carol Vorderman and the Good Law Project on the VIP lane / PPE scandal.

https://x.com/carolvorders/status/1737822114927804806?s=20



🔹In 2020, Tory peer Lord Chadlington referred a company SG Recruitment, with no PPE experience, to the VIP lane.
🔹He sent his referral to Lord Feldman, another Tory peer.
🔹Chadlington was a director and shareholder of SG Recruitment's parent company Sumner Group Holdings, based offshore in Jersey.
🔹SG Recruitment was then, through the VIP Lane, handed contracts worth £50 MILLION.
🔹The average price for a PPE gowns across all contracts was £5.87, SG Recruitment gowns cost NEARLY TWICE AS MUCH at a whopping £11.87.
🔹On top of that, more than half of the PPE the company supplied was useless.
🔹The Dept of Health and Social care is now engaged in “ongoing commercially confidential discussions” with SG Recruitment.
🔹But the parent company has been wound up, making it unlikely that any of this wasted money will be recovered.

[Bostonhibby]

If you're Health Secretary it's always handy to know what does and doesn't make a doctor qualified.

Maybe not a huge issue as another Health Secretary will probably be along shortly.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231221/967e475fd8dd28f65d349ceeaa3ba54b.jpg

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[Moulin Yarns]

Every tory MSP piling onto an snp MSP who wished pagans a happy winter solstice berating her for not wishing Christians a happy Christmas, even though it wasn't Christmas for a few days.

[J-C]

Every tory MSP piling onto an snp MSP who wished pagans a happy winter solstice berating her for not wishing Christians a happy Christmas, even though it wasn't Christmas for a few days.

Well to be fair it isn't a Christian holiday, it is a Pagan festival which the Christians latched onto, similar to Easter. Yule festival or everlasting life is a time to reflect on renewal and transformation with the shortest day and longest night and the rebirth of a new sun.

[Moulin Yarns]

Well to be fair it isn't a Christian holiday, it is a Pagan festival which the Christians latched onto, similar to Easter. Yule festival or everlasting life is a time to reflect on renewal and transformation with the shortest day and longest night and the rebirth of a new sun.

Absolutely. Who do the tories think they are hijacking solstice??

[Bostonhibby]

Absolutely. Who do the tories think they are hijacking solstice??Another news deflection away from their own conduct? - for example James not too Cleverley's latest attempt to show what a comedian he is.

There's sadly plenty who lap this ***** up.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCGryKOW8AA_Adh?format=jpg&name=medium

[cabbageandribs1875]

well worth the donations for this **** eh

BladeoftheSun on X: "As well as dismantling the BBC the Tories are dismantling the NHS. They appointed Wol Kolade, partner in private equity firm Livingbridge which is massively involved in private healthcare, to deputy chair of NHS England. He has donated £730,000 to the Conservatives. https://t.co/tiXX8XuW3H" / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/BladeoftheS/status/1738580672787124433?t=NSzSgETE6aMwu6vTK9J8cg&s=19&fbclid=IwAR2mlmdbJvlwrIdmT9AP0LejDFon85uwYWDE38tnq mAVAbiu8WHsVxjfF3E)

[cabbageandribs1875]

(1) Fire Brigades Union on X: "�� NEW | Deregulation of safety rules around furniture could cost dozens of lives every single year. As shoppers gather for Boxing Day sales, the FBU is warning of government plans to downgrade safety regulations on furniture. Read the full story here: (https://twitter.com/fbunational/status/1739556845604294747?t=m2DQT69pQ9drzJLyVvlFgw&s=19&fbclid=IwAR1cA6hjGbR38VNHKiXXVXA_MnoodgcYkqEtWjtLC K_4zuhwcVIxPE4GBxo)https://t.co/EgxlHefZya https://t.co/rD12Wt7btX" / X (twitter.com)

Scrapping furniture safety regulations will cost dozens of lives a year, warns fire union | Fire Brigades Union (fbu.org.uk) (https://www.fbu.org.uk/news/2023/12/22/scrapping-furniture-safety-regulations-will-cost-dozens-lives-year-warns-fire-union)

The Fire Brigades Union has warned that a government plan to deregulate furniture regulations could cost dozens of lives every year.
As shoppers gather for Boxing Day sales on sofas and other furniture, the union is warning that unless the ministers change course, decades of safety regulations could be lost.

[grunt]

The Fire Brigades Union has warned that a government plan to deregulate furniture regulations could cost dozens of lives every year. As shoppers gather for Boxing Day sales on sofas and other furniture, the union is warning that unless the ministers change course, decades of safety regulations could be lost.
Tory *******s don't care about the safety of ordinary people. This is what Brexit was all about - the removal of decades of health and safety legislation. *******s.

[stokesmessiah]

So are we looking at a May election, when will they announce if so?

[Kato]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/29/tory-mp-james-daly-struggling-children-bury-north-crap-parents?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other



"We’re not a strange rightwing sect."

Straight face as well.



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[Bostonhibby]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/29/tory-mp-james-daly-struggling-children-bury-north-crap-parents?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other



"We’re not a strange rightwing sect."

Straight face as well.



Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkWith a forehead that size there's no chance he's in a sect, there can't be many groups of folk that look like that surely. An altogether odd creature.

C'mon the good people of Bury, you know what to do.

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[Bostonhibby]

Meanwhilehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/469200281ffc9755e6de4bf5987b60d2.jpg

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[Jones28]

Leader of the vote leave campaign is to be honoured by Truss.

[Ozyhibby]

Leader of the vote leave campaign is to be honoured by Truss.

Suck it up. We voted to stay part of the UK.


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[Kato]

https://twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/1741025477236809885?t=I4MbRQP5owMuX7y7sZUAEQ&s=19

More Russian influence in the HoL?

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[lapsedhibee]

https://twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/1741025477236809885?t=I4MbRQP5owMuX7y7sZUAEQ&s=19

More Russian influence in the HoL?


"The Libertarian politics of Tax Payers Alliance are exactly the same as Americans For Prosperity: No taxes, no NHS, no state pension, no minimum wage, no sick leave, no welfare support, no police and no financial or climate regulation."

But some rubber dinghies and road traffic measures are undermining the British way of life.

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/rishisunak/status/1742120380226027632?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

Start the year with a whopper that has to get a clarification from Twitter.


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[grunt]

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-manufacturing-sector-shrinks-for-17th-month-in-a-row-13040868?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

UK manufacturing sector shrinks for 17th month in a row. Thanks, lying, incompetent Tory ****ers.

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/pippacrerar/status/1743326712178397504?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

Another by-election on the way.


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[grunt]

https://x.com/pippacrerar/status/1743326712178397504?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

Another by-election on the way.

A Tory with principles! Wonders will never cease.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDGIQlgXUAA80l3?format=png&name=medium

[Moulin Yarns]

A Tory with principles! Wonders will never cease.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDGIQlgXUAA80l3?format=png&name=medium

Took his time though. Been known about for weeks.

[CropleyWasGod]

A Tory with principles! Wonders will never cease.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDGIQlgXUAA80l3?format=png&name=medium

I'm not so sure.

He was on his way out at the next election anyway. Call me cynical, but does he have another job lined up? :cb

[Ozyhibby]

I'm not so sure.

He was on his way out at the next election anyway. Call me cynical, but does he have another job lined up? :cb

He will likely lose money though by resigning. I think they get a big pay out if they lose their seat at a general election. He’ll miss out on that.


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[CropleyWasGod]

He will likely lose money though by resigning. I think they get a big pay out if they lose their seat at a general election. He’ll miss out on that.


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He wasn't standing at the next election.

[grunt]

Regarding Sunak's performance on LK on Sunday morning:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDQnvvgWUAADNNP?format=jpg&name=large

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/415521574_332200893062276_1111632262969260352_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=c42490&_nc_ohc=lAeOP0MvoXUAX9vYCYe&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfD3jkU8w-vi5RR44Sh7wsoGbp6wETfvrAz-fLRK8oo6sw&oe=659FECF0

[stokesmessiah]

I have to be honest, I have been quite oblivious to the whole post office scandal, bar knowing the basic facts. I am astonished though that a TV drama has sparked the tories into action and all seemingly surprised at the miscarriage of justice that’s been going out for the whole duration of their government!?

[Kato]

I have to be honest, I have been quite oblivious to the whole post office scandal, bar knowing the basic facts. I am astonished though that a TV drama has sparked the tories into action and all seemingly surprised at the miscarriage of justice that’s been going out for the whole duration of their government!?It's popular, they're populists.

Any old bandwagon will do.

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[MKHIBEE]

It's popular, they're populists.

Any old bandwagon will do.

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It’s also an election year

[grunt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDZuTP8WoAAvSy9?format=jpg&name=medium

[Bostonhibby]

It's popular, they're populists.

Any old bandwagon will do.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkMaybe they could take a look at that Cameron Guy, Dodgy Dave, the west villa united fan who pushed through the privatisation of the Post Office with indecent haste?

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[grunt]

Paula Vennells announces that she actually returned her CBE in October, but foolishly sent it by Second Class post.

[grunt]

Lying Tory liar Lee Anderson announces he will tour the UK to speak to Conservative Associations.

Here's the map he posted on Twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDWJah1WoAAMbKh?format=jpg&name=small

[grunt]

Lying Tory liar Priti Patel lies about supporting the Post Office postmasters in Parliament:

https://x.com/pritipatel/status/1744464170169290979?s=20

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDY7kO9XgAEvNVC?format=jpg&name=medium

[grunt]

Rishi making a big impact on his UK tour

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDaxX9hXYAAG1ES?format=png&name=900x900

[Kato]

Rishi making a big impact on his UK tour

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDaxX9hXYAAG1ES?format=png&name=900x900Boy on the left wants to cave him in, boy on the right is flipping the vickies to him in his pocket.

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[MKHIBEE]

Lying Tory liar Priti Patel lies about supporting the Post Office postmasters in Parliament:

https://x.com/pritipatel/status/1744464170169290979?s=20

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDY7kO9XgAEvNVC?format=jpg&name=medium






Boak inducing individual

[Bostonhibby]

Boak inducing individualThere's an election coming up and the hard right/swivel eyed loony fringe is repositioning itself and distancing itself from past scandals generally and Sunak in particular.

All about who leads and gets a job aboard the new super duper caring Nasty party after it loses the next election, or indeed wins it.

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[MKHIBEE]

There's an election coming up and the hard right/swivel eyed loony fringe is repositioning itself and distancing itself from past scandals generally and Sunak in particular.

All about who leads and gets a job aboard the new super duper caring Nasty party after it loses the next election, or indeed wins it.

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You can just see Priti Patel and Suella Braverman in a run off for the next Nasty party leadership with the loser becoming Home Secretary

[Ozyhibby]

You can just see Priti Patel and Suella Braverman in a run off for the next Nasty party leadership with the loser becoming Home Secretary

*shadow


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[Bostonhibby]

You can just see Priti Patel and Suella Braverman in a run off for the next Nasty party leadership with the loser becoming Home SecretaryTop billing, ghastly v cruel for the ultimate shameless prize, leader of the nasties.

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[MKHIBEE]

Top billing, ghastly v cruel for the ultimate shameless prize, leader of the nasties.

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Nastiest takes the prize

[Stairway 2 7]

*shadow


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Yup and watching Sunak now he's just repeating the same old lines. We will stop the boats is so daft as it's unachievable, they should have said we will dramatically decrease or something.

I think Starmer is a lucky general as he barely lands, but the tories are self imploding

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 46% (+3)
CON: 22% (-2)
LDM: 10% (=)
REF: 9% (-2)
GRN: 7% (-1)
SNP: 3% (=)

Via
@YouGov
, On 2-3 January,

[MKHIBEE]

*shadow


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You are probably right but there is a lot to be said and done before the votes are cast. The fact that we presently have the Tories in power beggars belief

[Andy Bee]

You are probably right but there is a lot to be said and done before the votes are cast. The fact that we presently have the Tories in power beggars belief

And as sure as night follows day we'll have them in power again after Labour get a quick shot of ballsing things up, probably in five and a half years time. As I get older I'm beginning to understand why older voters tend to vote Conservative.....It's Stockholm Syndrome innit?

[MKHIBEE]

And as sure as night follows day we'll have them in power again after Labour get a quick shot of ballsing things up, probably in five and a half years time. As I get older I'm beginning to understand why older voters tend to vote Conservative.....It's Stockholm Syndrome innit?


That’s a great way of putting it.

[Jack]

And as sure as night follows day we'll have them in power again after Labour get a quick shot of ballsing things up, probably in five and a half years time. As I get older I'm beginning to understand why older voters tend to vote Conservative.....It's Stockholm Syndrome innit?

You're correct pointing out the Westminster yoyo, however ...

I'm as old as I've ever been and have no intention of ever voting tory.

Jack
(age 67½)

[grunt]

https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1745201240265441336?s=20

On Peston:

Jake Berry on Trump: "Bring him back!"
Jess Phillips: "You don't actually think that." [She appears to be genuinely shocked. As, to be fair, am I]
JB: "Economically, Biden has been a disaster." [This of course is yet another lying Tory LIE]
JP: "You really think Trump would be good for the States? You like a bit of insurrection?"
JB: "He's not been convicted of anything."

[Stairway 2 7]

https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1745201240265441336?s=20

On Peston:

Jake Berry on Trump: "Bring him back!"
Jess Phillips: "You don't actually think that." [She appears to be genuinely shocked. As, to be fair, am I]
JB: "Economically, Biden has been a disaster." [This of course is yet another lying Tory LIE]
JP: "You really think Trump would be good for the States? You like a bit of insurrection?"
JB: "He's not been convicted of anything."

Inflation well bellow ours and growth well above ours. If Biden has been an economic disaster what would he say the tories have been

[grunt]

Energy Security and Net Zero Secretary Claire Coutinho accepted a £2,000 donation in January from Lord Michael Hintze, a funder of the UK’s leading climate science denial pressure group.

https://www.desmog.com/2024/01/11/net-zero-secretary-claire-coutinho-took-donation-gwpf-climate-science-denial-funder-michael-hintze/

[JimBHibees]

Energy Security and Net Zero Secretary Claire Coutinho accepted a £2,000 donation in January from Lord Michael Hintze, a funder of the UK’s leading climate science denial pressure group.

https://www.desmog.com/2024/01/11/net-zero-secretary-claire-coutinho-took-donation-gwpf-climate-science-denial-funder-michael-hintze/

Wow

[Jack]

Energy Security and Net Zero Secretary Claire Coutinho accepted a £2,000 donation in January from Lord Michael Hintze, a funder of the UK’s leading climate science denial pressure group.

https://www.desmog.com/2024/01/11/net-zero-secretary-claire-coutinho-took-donation-gwpf-climate-science-denial-funder-michael-hintze/

How does someone like that become a Lord. Rhetorical question.

She come cheap!

[Stairway 2 7]

Huge yougov poll shows large Labour win. Will have to be a big swing in the next 10 months for there not to be a wipeout. I'm surprised they haven't changed tactics and are just plugging Rwanda which the public don't think is an important issue to solve. There last throw will be tax cuts but I think it'll be too late

https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1746655583401369707