Tories are still lying *******s

[Hibernia&Alba]

It has to be the 'safe pair of hands' candidate next up. The Tories can't afford to give the nutters who comprise their party members the opportunity to put in another right-wing lunatic of the Braverman or Badenoch ilk. They will ensure such candidates are excluded if the vote goes to the membership. I reckon one of Sunak, Mordaunt or Wallace. As I've said before, Mordaunt would be the best bet to unite them, or possibly Wallace. Sunak would divide the MPs.

Confirmed. Leadership candidates must have the support of at least one hundred Tory MPs, in order to quality. That will ensure that only relative moderates will reach the ballot. I can't see the likes of Braverman, for example, achieving one hundred nominations. Last time only twenty nominations were required, in order to reach the first round of voting.

[Keith_M]

Anybody that actually thinks the 'valid expenses only' rules will actually apply to this bunch of charlatans is naive in the extreme.

[wookie70]

Confirmed. Leadership candidates must have the support of at least one hundred Tory MPs, in order to quality. That will ensure that only relative moderates will reach the ballot. I can't see the likes of Braverman, for example, achieving one hundred nominations. Last time only twenty nominations were required, in order to reach the first round of voting. I presume they can support more than one candidate. If not they might not need a vote

[Hibernia&Alba]

Anybody that actually thinks the 'valid expenses only' rules will actually apply to this bunch of charlatans is naive in the extreme.

My private box at Hibs, townhouse in Belgravia, Aston Martin and membership at the Scandinavian massage parlour are valid expenses. How dare you.

[James310]

I disagree. This is one of the most interesting times ever in British politics, and she's a major part of it. I think there will be plenty right wing think tanks and businesses with cash to splash that will see getting her as a guest speaker as a very attractive proposition.

Time will tell I suppose.

None of that would be classed as official engagements so she won't be able to claim a penny.

[heretoday]

Sunak is clever with the figures and that but he's of Asian descent and the Tory faithful won't want him as PM.

Sorry folks. It's the return of the Clown.

[James310]

Anybody that actually thinks the 'valid expenses only' rules will actually apply to this bunch of charlatans is naive in the extreme.

Well if she breaks the rules and submits expenses that are not in line with what is approved they will be rejected. Unless you think the Civil Servants who I assume have oversight of these things are somehow in on some plot to defraud the taxpayer.

[Kato]

None of that would be classed as official engagements so she won't be able to claim a penny.The only exPM not claiming the lot at the moment is May, who has her MPs salary and copious expenses.

Major, Blair, Brown and Cameron all claim the lot - which is a hella lotta "official engagements."


Thatcher lived off hers as she was skint.

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[wookie70]

Well if she breaks the rules and submits expenses that are not in line with what is approved they will be rejected. Unless you think the Civil Servants who I assume have oversight of these things are somehow in on some plot to defraud the taxpayer.

She will appoint family members in secretarial roles etc. Then use the money to pay them. Then she will get 100K from someone who benefitted from the crash of the pound for doing a 5 min speech and the protection and fancy car to get there will be on us. The money will be spent and for me after such a short and disastrous spell and in a time of a public service crisis it needs looked at. She and her cronies have screwed millions of public servants pension, have literally stolen overpaid contribution and have tried unlawfully to reduce compensation schemes. What's good for the gander should also apply to the golden goose

[Hibernia&Alba]

The only exPM not claiming the lot at the moment is May, who has her MPs salary and copious expenses.

Major, Blair, Brown and Cameron all claim the lot - which is a hella lotta "official engagements."


Thatcher lived off hers as she was skint.

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She didn't have to die in the cold in winter as a consequence of her breaking the link between pensions and incomes as PM. Funny that.

[James310]

She will appoint family members in secretarial roles etc. Then use the money to pay them. Then she will get 100K from someone who benefitted from the crash of the pound for doing a 5 min speech and the protection and fancy car to get there will be on us. The money will be spent and for me after such a short and disastrous spell and in a time of a public service crisis it needs looked at. She and her cronies have screwed millions of public servants pension, have literally stolen overpaid contribution and have tried unlawfully to reduce compensation schemes. What's good for the gander should also apply to the golden goose

Official engagements are not speeches you get paid for. Things like attending a state funeral is an official engagements.

Has any previous PM that used the allowance been found to be using incorrectly?

[Hibernia&Alba]

Question Time panel once again packed with Tories :cb

[Berwickhibby]

https://youtu.be/-j_CxQFziFU

[McSwanky]

Official engagements are not speeches you get paid for. Things like attending a state funeral is an official engagements.

Has any previous PM that used the allowance been found to be using incorrectly?I dunno, what have they used it for?

[wookie70]

Official engagements are not speeches you get paid for. Things like attending a state funeral is an official engagements.

Has any previous PM that used the allowance been found to be using incorrectly?

Thatcher received around half a million in the five years following a stroke and made hardly any public appearances. No details appear to be published so would you have a clue what she was spending 100K a year on while hardly leaving the house. I think the expenses scandal shows how creative MPs are.

[McSwanky]

Thatcher received around half a million in the five years following a stroke and made hardly any public appearances. No details appear to be published so would you have a clue what she was spending 100K a year on while hardly leaving the house. I think the expenses scandal shows how creative MPs are.It's been widely reported that Major, Blair, Brown and Cameron have been claiming pretty much the full amount recently, although actual records of what/who the expenses were for are sketchy. I'm pretty sure Liz can find a way.

[hibsbollah]

Question Time panel once again packed with Tories :cb

Jess Philips the most right wing Labour mp available.

[Callum_62]

Official engagements are not speeches you get paid for. Things like attending a state funeral is an official engagements.

Has any previous PM that used the allowance been found to be using incorrectly?Are folk claiming 115k PA?

I get a state funeral attendance (but how many of them are they?)

What else would be classed as official engagements?

I can't fathom how or why they would need to have a 115k PA threshold (isn't that around 4 times the average wage in the UK?)


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[degenerated]

I dunno, what have they used it for?Neither do I but they don't seem to miss a trick to maximise what they take from it. 2624926250

[Hibernia&Alba]

Jess Philips the most right wing Labour mp available.

No contradiction of neoliberal economics here: the markets control us; we don't control markets. Anything else is unthinkable.

[hibsbollah]

No contradiction of neoliberal economics here: the markets control us; we don't control markets. Anything is unthinkable.

She’s done some good stuff on domestic violence, but she hates the Left more than the Tories hate the Left. Opposed to nationalisation, I’m not sure how she ended up Labour.

[Hibernia&Alba]

She’s done some good stuff on domestic violence, but she hates the Left more than the Tories hate the Left. Opposed to nationalisation, I’m not sure how she ended up Labour.

As the great Tony Benn used to say, "The Labour Party has never been a socialist party. It is a party with socialists in it."

[Kato]

I get a state funeral attendance (but how many of them are they?)

You never see one, then two come along rapid.



What else would be classed as official engagements?



Opening emails that have the letters e, x, p, and m in.

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[Callum_62]

I presume they can support more than one candidate. If not they might not need a voteI doubt they can name more than 1

How many mps?

I'm guessing 2 candidates tops

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[Kato]

As the great Tony Benn used to say, "The Labour Party has never been a socialist party. It is a party with socialists in it."Blimey. Tony Benn would be hilarious as well as righteous if he were still around today.

His case in the 70's and 80's for Lexit ( it wasn't called that back then ) was lucid and cogent. He talked in terms of control of the purse, budgets being distributed by the EU and control of the sword, ie defence and the possibility an eu army. There were one or two other aspects he disagreed with and he always said we should work, trade and have cordial relations with European countries. I reckon that suited the times and he had a very valid points. The times were the 1950s and 60s though, the geopolitics and motives of our politicians were so, so different, although the traitors were all toffs back then as well.

[Kato]

https://twitter.com/burt_cdburt/status/1582987013845721090?t=KLDgmxmMXoTg5b-4klSlTQ&s=19

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[Moulin Yarns]

No it's the vegans now

Lettuce vote 😉

[Moulin Yarns]

Well a massive difference between a pension of £115K where you can spend it how you please and an expenses amount you can claim for carrying out so called official duties. Facts matter.

I am sure the FM will get some kind of expenses allowance. I would also suggest Truss will hardly use it.


So in sum, with a severance pay out of £18,860 plus 1.5 months’ salary as PM at roughly £6,781.50, Truss has earned £25,600 for spending 45 days as the British prime minister.

And just incase she spends it all at once, the ex-prime minister will be entitled to claim up to £115,000 per year from the taxpayer for the rest of her life. The Public Duty Costs Allowance (PDCA) is a pot of money that former prime ministers can claim expenses from to cover the cost of continuing to fulfil public duties.


https://www.bigissue.com/news/politics/how-much-severance-pay-will-liz-truss-get-after-she-resigned-as-prime-minister/

[Ozyhibby]

She’s done some good stuff on domestic violence, but she hates the Left more than the Tories hate the Left. Opposed to nationalisation, I’m not sure how she ended up Labour.

She represents working class people, something the left often forgets to do.


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[Moulin Yarns]

To be realistic, I doubt that "ex-PM Liz Truss" will be much of a draw, so I can't see her claims being that big.

Tommy sheppard will be booking her for the stand, I'm fairly sure 😉

[xyz23jc]

Thatcher underpants would raise them a fortune. Millions of us would buy them, just to deliberately soil ourselves.

Tak a bow Sir! I nearly 'soiled' myself at that!:top marks

[wookie70]

So in sum, with a severance pay out of £18,860 plus 1.5 months’ salary as PM at roughly £6,781.50, Truss has earned £25,600 for spending 45 days as the British prime minister.

And just incase she spends it all at once, the ex-prime minister will be entitled to claim up to £115,000 per year from the taxpayer for the rest of her life. The Public Duty Costs Allowance (PDCA) is a pot of money that former prime ministers can claim expenses from to cover the cost of continuing to fulfil public duties.


https://www.bigissue.com/news/politics/how-much-severance-pay-will-liz-truss-get-after-she-resigned-as-prime-minister/

I posted similar but quickly deleted as I think the £18K figure would be if she leaves office completely. There is definitely a sliding scale starting from a 1/4 salary and reducing depending on what job you do next. Utterly despicable when they are actually resigning. This Government are constantly attacking severance for their direct employees and illegally at that. A fair chunk of her term was a period of mourning with no Government happening. saying all that it would have been worth 10 times that amount if she hadn't taken a step in the house in the first place

[Paulie Walnuts]

Neither do I but they don't seem to miss a trick to maximise what they take from it. 2624926250

Aye but Liz Truss won’t take it… definitely not…

[overdrive]

I posted similar but quickly deleted as I think the £18K figure would be if she leaves office completely. There is definitely a sliding scale starting from a 1/4 salary and reducing depending on what job you do next. Utterly despicable when they are actually resigning. This Government are constantly attacking severance for their direct employees and illegally at that. A fair chunk of her term was a period of mourning with no Government happening. saying all that it would have been worth 10 times that amount if she hadn't taken a step in the house in the first place

I think she would need to get another eligible government position within 3 weeks of leaving office to not be eligible for the 1/4 salary payment. I read Ten Names is getting it as he was sacked 6 weeks ago and therefore outside of the 3 week period.

[Kato]

https://twitter.com/JustinWelby/status/1583148896767070208?t=3tPQmHyF4UQ2XtsgqjenTQ&s=19

One of the wizards pipes up.

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[overdrive]

If they are sensible enough to ensure only those who aren't clinically insane can get the job this time, then, as an anti-Tory, I hope it's Sunak, as he could never unite them, and it would mean more Tory infighting.

If I was a Tory, I would want Mordaunt or Wallace. I do think there's something about Mordaunt in the MILF stakes, though I would rather say no more than that :wink:

Mordaunt is definitely up there in the MILF stakes. Such a shame she’s a Tory.

[ronaldo7]

Aye but Liz Truss won’t take it… definitely not…

It's funny how those "expenses" add up to exactly £115,000 in the cases of Blair and Major.

It's ok though, Liz won't take it. 😉

[hibsbollah]

She represents working class people, something the left often forgets to do.


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What does she do to ‘represent’ working class people? Are you just saying that because of her accent?

[Callum_62]

That Boris aye?

https://twitter.com/serendipity99/status/1583198326241251328?t=2Q5DW1zBGDzFibOpnIoVuA&s=19

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[Jack]

Neither do I but they don't seem to miss a trick to maximise what they take from it. 2624926250

Looking at the total figure and the cost of pensions, max 10%, it looks to me like the whole allowance for all of them is taken up with staff costs rather than travel or visits.

[Ozyhibby]

All the media can talk about is Johnson. He’s the biggest story in town and it’s clear they want him back. If he gets to 100 mp’s then he wins I think.


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[Bostonhibby]

All the media can talk about is Johnson. He’s the biggest story in town and it’s clear they want him back. If he gets to 100 mp’s then he wins I think.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAdmittedly the Nasty party could win round here if the put a coffee table up as a candidate but listening to folk generally, they only want Bozo back, some were backing dim Lizzie just a few days ago, the opinions against Sunak and even to a lesser degree, Mourdant have been unpleasant but predictable.



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[hibsbollah]

John Lamont the Berwickshire MP has been on radio4 calling for Penny Mordaunt, after a midlands MP just being on calling for Sunak. Lamont was very clear that this decision should not go to members in any circumstances and the MPS need to quickly get a chosen one in.

It’s unbelievable that all government activity has essentially stopped again, when we need it most.

[GlesgaeHibby]

All the media can talk about is Johnson. He’s the biggest story in town and it’s clear they want him back. If he gets to 100 mp’s then he wins I think.


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Agree, if he gets to 100 and it goes to membership he wins. He's already at around 50.

Then privileges committee finds he misled parliament, recall petition kicks in, he loses the by-election and off we go again.

What a total mess.

[hibsbollah]

Admittedly the Nasty party could win round here if the put a coffee table up as a candidate but listening to folk generally, they only want Bozo back, some were backing dim Lizzie just a few days ago, the opinions against Sunak and even to a lesser degree, Mourdant have been unpleasant but predictable.



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E
Why unpleasant against Mordaunt? Woman?

[Bostonhibby]

John Lamont the Berwickshire MP has been on radio4 calling for Penny Mordaunt, after a midlands MP just being on calling for Sunak. Lamont was very clear that this decision should not go to members in any circumstances and the MPS need to quickly get a chosen one in.

It’s unbelievable that all government activity has essentially stopped again, when we need it most.Just listened to a Peterborough MP on our local news, could pick him out as a Tory from any line up. Simply deflected away from anything Bozo has done and the manner of his leaving because he has a mandate and can unite the country, absolutely no qualification as to how the latter will be achieved just the same blanket stonewalling that was the enabler for getting us into the mess we are enduring now.

A future minister in any Bozo led government which must be a real prospect if he has the brass neck to go for it.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Looking like it'll be boris v Sunak shoot out , unfortunately not literally. Neither will win next election.

[Stairway 2 7]

GoodwinMJ
·
1h
NEW. *The Conservative Party falls to the lowest level of support in British polling history*

Labour 53%
Conservatives 14%
Lib Dems 11%

@PeoplePolling Oct 20

[Bostonhibby]

E
Why unpleasant against Mordaunt? Woman?Pretty much, yes, even heard one say it "didn't work last time".

Maybe I spend too much time in the vicinity of white male pensioners[emoji6]. I qualify that by saying they were by far the most vocal just yesterday.

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[Stairway 2 7]

It's going to be dafty isn't

@GoodwinMJ
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NEW. "Who should replace Liz Truss?"

ALL VOTERS
Rishi Sunak 19%
Boris Johnson 16%
Penny Mordaunt 5%

2019 CONSERVATIVES
Boris Johnson 38%
Rishi Sunak 20%
Penny Mordaunt 8%

@PeoplePolling Oct 20

[ronaldo7]

John Lamont the Berwickshire MP has been on radio4 calling for Penny Mordaunt, after a midlands MP just being on calling for Sunak. Lamont was very clear that this decision should not go to members in any circumstances and the MPS need to quickly get a chosen one in.

It’s unbelievable that all government activity has essentially stopped again, when we need it most.

They'll tell the Scottish government to get on with the day job though.

If Johnson runs he'll get over the 100, and I think Mordant will be the other candidate.

Anyone's guess who'll win that one.

They'll stay the course for the next couple of years, and try and win back England

[Bostonhibby]

They'll tell the Scottish government to get on with the day job though.

If Johnson runs he'll get over the 100, and I think Mordant will be the other candidate.

Anyone's guess who'll win that one.

They'll stay the course for the next couple of years, and try and win back EnglandThat's what my money would be on.

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[Stairway 2 7]

So far MPs declared 53 for boris, 47 sunak, 16 mordaunt

It'll be boris v sunak. Conservatives will vote for boris. This is unbelievable

[degenerated]

They'll tell the Scottish government to get on with the day job though.

If Johnson runs he'll get over the 100, and I think Mordant will be the other candidate.

Anyone's guess who'll win that one.

They'll stay the course for the next couple of years, and try and win back EnglandBoris back in and blame the situation on Europe, immigration and lefties and it would probably work.

[Callum_62]

Lol, some country we are in likes

I hate what is happening but surely Sunak is clearly the best choice for the country (barring a GE ofcourse)

The fact Johnson is even quoted is a scandal in its self

https://twitter.com/josiahmortimer/status/1583350296495161344?t=v6PvUhBBhD3ajFfchRSn8w&s=19

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[Bostonhibby]

Lol, some country we are in likes

I hate what is happening but surely Sunak is clearly the best choice for the country (barring a GE ofcourse)

The fact Johnson is even quoted is a scandal in its self

https://twitter.com/josiahmortimer/status/1583350296495161344?t=v6PvUhBBhD3ajFfchRSn8w&s=19

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkBozo will not enter if he can't win, it will be taken as read that if he looks like doing so the nasties will have to find a way to minimise or entirely bury the various enquiries into him and his conduct at least until after the next election, and they will.

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[Paulie Walnuts]

It’s going to be Bojo isn’t it…

[Willis1875]

It’s probably been the plan all along,Boris to waltz back in with MPs told to fall in line and back him.
Operation save big dog

[He's here!]

Lol, some country we are in likes

I hate what is happening but surely Sunak is clearly the best choice for the country (barring a GE ofcourse)

The fact Johnson is even quoted is a scandal in its self

https://twitter.com/josiahmortimer/status/1583350296495161344?t=v6PvUhBBhD3ajFfchRSn8w&s=19

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It seemed obvious it should have been Sunak (or Mordaunt) last time. Watching Liz Truss speak in public, even during the leadership campaign, made you wonder if she was perhaps on some sort of spectrum and it amazed me that the many government officials/MPs who had worked with her for years didn't step in to dissuade her from standing. They must have known she wouldn't be up to the job.

Assuming January 2025 is the date of the next election there is ample time for the right candidate to put the Tories back in the running but only if they can see that the sole criteria for selecting the next PM is whether they can attract wide public appeal. Sunak and Mordaunt look capable of that. Johnson should simply not be standing.

[SHODAN]

Agree, if he gets to 100 and it goes to membership he wins. He's already at around 50.

Then privileges committee finds he misled parliament, recall petition kicks in, he loses the by-election and off we go again.

What a total mess.

He'll either overturn the recall law or appoint himself a Lord and carry on.

Boris is back and there's nothing we can do about it.

[wookie70]

So far MPs declared 53 for boris, 47 sunak, 16 mordaunt

It'll be boris v sunak. Conservatives will vote for boris. This is unbelievable As soon as Truss was odds on favourite to be PM I think the likelihood of Johnson returning before Christmas was huge. It almost seems planned. Put someone who nobody with half a brain could think would last 6 months in as PM. Then when they leave get the lying racist back in. I hope Johnson wins, then suffers a recall and his constituents kick him out of Parliament. The Tories then choose another PM and refuse a GE. That is terrible for the UK but good for Scotland imo as it would mean we would get over 50% for a referendum and the timing would be great with that chaos going on.

[Stairway 2 7]

So far MPs declared 53 for boris, 47 sunak, 16 mordaunt

It'll be boris v sunak. Conservatives will vote for boris. This is unbelievable

59 , 54 , 20 now

Can't actually believe this

[GlesgaeHibby]

59 , 54 , 20 now

Can't actually believe this

I can believe it. This lot were stupid enough to make him leader in first place and thought that Liz Truss was capable of being PM. The conservatives ceased being a credible political party a long time ago. Can't see any way back for them now. Far too divided, with ERG camp, one nation centrists, Trussonomic folk etc

He's gone from 13/1 yesterday to even money today to become next PM.

[SHODAN]

I can believe it. This lot were stupid enough to make him leader in first place and thought that Liz Truss was capable of being PM. The conservatives ceased being a credible political party a long time ago. Can't see any way back for them now. Far too divided, with ERG camp, one nation centrists, Trussonomic folk etc

He's gone from 13/1 yesterday to even money today to become next PM.

And he'll win the next GE.

[Northernhibee]

And he'll win the next GE.
Can’t see it.

[overdrive]

Can’t see it.

I can. Lots of idiots love him.

[OldEast]

I can. Lots of idiots love him.

Yes, the clue to why the tories might win the next GE is the middle word in your second sentence. There are enough of them to be swayed by the onslaught of propaganda and lies from the MSM over the next two years.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

You now start to wonder if this has been all some kind of ****ed up psyops to make people think Johnson wasn't all the bad and he was a good egg really

[Torto7]

Boris back in and blame the situation on Europe, immigration and lefties and it would probably work.

:agree: All arranged beforehand. Fat Darren from Grimsby will lap it up and they will win again.

[Torto7]

You now start to wonder if this has been all some kind of ****ed up psyops to make people think Johnson wasn't all the bad and he was a good egg really

100 pc. Every time Sky show him now it's with Zelensky. This country stinks. If Trump gets back in America then we are in for Erdogan style politics.

[Keith_M]

:agree: All arranged beforehand. Fat Darren from Grimsby will lap it up and they will win again.


You mean this guy?



https://i2-prod.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/celebs-tv/article175942.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/grimsbyfilmmain.jpg

[He's here!]

100 pc. Every time Sky show him now it's with Zelensky. This country stinks. If Trump gets back in America then we are in for Erdogan style politics.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/sir-keir-starmer-ukraine-better-call-boris-johnson-tweet-b1034346.html

Ukraine govt certainly appears to remain smitten by him.

[Torto7]

You mean this guy?



https://i2-prod.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/celebs-tv/article175942.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/grimsbyfilmmain.jpg

Yeah that's the one. :wink:

[Torto7]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/sir-keir-starmer-ukraine-better-call-boris-johnson-tweet-b1034346.html

Ukraine govt certainly appears to remain smitten by him.

Those guys are in a tough situation and fatso has used the photo op as much as possible. Thankfully the British Civil Service is still functioning along with the top brass in the armed forces.

[silverhibee]

The thing that’s bugging me is that there doesn’t seem to be anyone doing anything about it.

Society is held together by the thinnest of blue lines (see protesters in Sri Lanka swimming about in the presidential pool a few months ago).

I don’t accept that there’s nothing can be done about it but it needs someone to get it started.

Normally I ain’t a rabble rouser but I have a serious moral objection to what they’re doing and how they’re behaving and would happily take to the streets in peaceful protest.

I just need someone else to go first…

Where are you thinking of protesting.

[Ozyhibby]

Where are you thinking of protesting.

This is what we voted for, either in 2019 if your in England or 2014 if your in Scotland. Need to just suck it up.


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[Stairway 2 7]

And he'll win the next GE.

2/1 at the bookies just now for tory win 1/3 Labour.

Decent money if you think he can win back the public. I think they will have no chance as economy will go down the next 12 months, plus hard decisions on fuel subsidy and benefits ect

[Just Alf]

2/1 at the bookies just now for tory win 1/3 Labour.

Decent money if you think he can win back the public. I think they will have no chance as economy will go down the next 12 months, plus hard decisions on fuel subsidy and benefits ectThey'll probably give Scotland a referendum hoping we'll leave... that way they're rid of 50 odd semi permanent non tory MP's ! :greengrin

[J-C]

Anyone else feeling a sense of both dread and utter, utter, hopelessness about it all?

If this was any other course of business then massive changes would be made. We're just away to get another far right lunatic decided by the poshos, weirdos and racist old folk that make up the Tory membership yet again and it'll be just as bad, if not worse. And there's two years to the next election.

So many people are going to lose everything they have because of this shower of utter *******s.


Nearly everyone except James310

[Since90+2]

This is what we voted for, either in 2019 if your in England or 2014 if your in Scotland. Need to just suck it up.


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Sorry, as much as I disagree with people who voted no in 2014, there's no way that this is what they were voting for.

This is completely unheard of in British politics. Somehow apportioning blame for this mess to those who felt Scotland would be better in the Union 8 years ago just highlights again the lunatic fringe of Scottish nationalism.

[Stairway 2 7]

No sure if it'll be boris or rishi. Rishi much further right and the thought of the opposition boris getting in actually filled my head with anger today.

Get us out of this ******g union of thieves

[Stairway 2 7]

81 boris, 62 rishi , 21 penny.

That's apparently the ones announced so far

[hibsbollah]

Where are you thinking of protesting.

I think he's made it obvious there isn't anything going on at the moment but he wishes there was and would join in if there was. So would I. We need to be more ****ing french :sauzee: and not take any more of this absolute nonsense from our (supposed) elected representatives. The government are not made by god or by right, they only govern with our consent. There is a long and noble tradition of hundreds of years of tradition and political enlightenment thought behind that understanding.

[Mon Dieu4]

81 boris, 62 rishi , 21 penny.

That's apparently the ones announced so far

Wee Dougie will be waiting til 13.59 on Monday to back the person with the most votes

[Moulin Yarns]

Boris Johnson 'could be gone by Christmas' if he becomes prime minister


https://news.stv.tv/politics/boris-johnson-could-be-gone-by-christmas-if-he-becomes-prime-minister-for-second-time

[Bostonhibby]

Boris Johnson 'could be gone by Christmas' if he becomes prime minister


https://news.stv.tv/politics/boris-johnson-could-be-gone-by-christmas-if-he-becomes-prime-minister-for-second-timeIf Bozo rises from the ashes and a partygate report is actually produced anytime before the next election, or at all it is only going to minimise his wrongdoing if not actually admonishing him, jeez we will probably end up having to compensate him.

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[Kato]

100 pc. Every time Sky show him now it's with Zelensky. This country stinks. If Trump gets back in America then we are in for Erdogan style politics.Culture of the Personalty.



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[grunt]

Liz Truss is set to draw up a resignation honours list - despite only having been in the job for six weeks.

https://t.co/dhmgdwHaBH

[Just Alf]

Liz Truss is set to draw up a resignation honours list - despite only having been in the job for six weeks.

https://t.co/dhmgdwHaBH
Probably expecting to get creamed at the election, this way they can load up the Lords with "their" guys.

[hibsbollah]

Liz Truss is set to draw up a resignation honours list - despite only having been in the job for six weeks.

https://t.co/dhmgdwHaBH


Oh that’s brilliant.

[wookie70]

Makes sense to me. I always thought massive Government giveaways should always go to the bottom rung of the income ladder. https://www.facebook.com/owenjones84/videos/465562772052811

[He's here!]

81 boris, 62 rishi , 21 penny.

That's apparently the ones announced so far

Where are these figures from? According to Sky Sunak is well ahead at present on circa 75 with Johnson on 41.

[grunt]

Where are these figures from? According to Sky Sunak is well ahead at present on circa 75 with Johnson on 41.Here's one of many.

For clarity my name appeared on @GuidoFawkes (https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes)
last night as a supporter of the @BorisJohnson (https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson)
campaign. At NO POINT have I contacted Guido. As DCW I have to maintain the integrity, authority and impartiality of the office. Correction from Guido expected and appreciated

[Hibrandenburg]

Tories sack Boris because he became a liability and was putting all their jobs at risk, their party membership elect Truss against the will of most Tory MPs putting their jobs at risk so now they want Boris back because he was at least democratically elected and is the only one that can save their jobs after the electorate start questioning whether having a 3rd Prime Minister in as many months without an election is democratic. These crooks' priorities are:

Themselves
Their mates
The party
Numerous other ****
The country

[Moulin Yarns]

Where are these figures from? According to Sky Sunak is well ahead at present on circa 75 with Johnson on 41.



BBC at 8pm today
Here's our latest tally:

Rishi Sunak - 83
Boris Johnson - 42
Penny Mordaunt - 21

[Stairway 2 7]

Where are these figures from? According to Sky Sunak is well ahead at present on circa 75 with Johnson on 41.

Spreadsheet Hugo gye independent liked. But looks like sky and Guido fawkes have rishi in front. Guido is r 97 b 68 p 25
https://order-order.com/2022/10/21/whos-backing-who-the-spreadsheet-returns/

Doesn't really matter who wins apart from a sort of confidence vote. Anyone over 100 votes goes to the members.

It's a lose lose whoever wins is awful

[Stairway 2 7]

Rees mogg backing boris. I thought he'd go for Sunak as the most right wing, or is it because boris is their useful idiot

[Stairway 2 7]

This farce is how our PM will be decided.

https://mobile.twitter.com/thetimes/status/1583522846730780674

thetimes
🔺 EXCLUSIVE: Thousands of elderly Conservative Party members could be excluded from voting in the leadership contest because the party does not have an email address for them

Officials will phone those members without an email over the weekend to urge them to add an email address to enable them to vote in the contest

However, some local Conservative Party associations have said that as many as 13% of their membership do not have email addresses

There are at least 140k members eligible to vote but some in the party have estimated that as many as 20k are not signed up by email

For the first time in the party’s history, members will choose the next prime minister exclusively in an online ballot, as long as more than one candidate is put forward by MPs on Monday

All previous Conservative Party leadership contests have allowed members to vote by post, meaning elderly members who do not have email addresses were still given a vote

[Keith_M]

Liz Truss is set to draw up a resignation honours list - despite only having been in the job for six weeks.

https://t.co/dhmgdwHaBH




Honours?

Have they even thought about what that word means?

[Northernhibee]

Sunak hits 100.

[Keith_M]

Sunak hits 100.


Why didn't they just pick him the last time?

Might have saved the UK £68 billion.

[Moulin Yarns]

Sunak hits 100.



BBC


Tobias Ellwood claims to be Rishi Sunak's 100th supporter - if he is, that would mean the former chancellor has already passed the threshold for nominations to be the next Tory leader




What if he decides not to stand? 😂

[Bostonhibby]

Why didn't they just pick him the last time?

Might have saved the UK £68 billion.Might have denied Kwakers former boss and other nasty party donors and supporters a similar sum?

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[Stairway 2 7]

Why didn't they just pick him the last time?

Might have saved the UK £68 billion.

He's from similar cloth to truss. Expect austerity super sized, if it moves give it a cut. Right wing big business more of the same.

[Stairway 2 7]

How many times do these Cs get to do this before there is a general election

[Moulin Yarns]

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1583360491032047616?t=WOX1ZF1vk84bb9fqnK6hTg&s=19

[Moulin Yarns]

https://twitter.com/OriginalWhig/status/1583567016346017792?t=M74OaZfgDwg2iqmm9JlUaA&s=19

[weecounty hibby]

How many times do these Cs get to do this before there is a general election

As many times as they want too unfortunately.

[Glory Lurker]

This farce is how our PM will be decided.

https://mobile.twitter.com/thetimes/status/1583522846730780674

thetimes
🔺 EXCLUSIVE: Thousands of elderly Conservative Party members could be excluded from voting in the leadership contest because the party does not have an email address for them

Officials will phone those members without an email over the weekend to urge them to add an email address to enable them to vote in the contest

However, some local Conservative Party associations have said that as many as 13% of their membership do not have email addresses

There are at least 140k members eligible to vote but some in the party have estimated that as many as 20k are not signed up by email

For the first time in the party’s history, members will choose the next prime minister exclusively in an online ballot, as long as more than one candidate is put forward by MPs on Monday

All previous Conservative Party leadership contests have allowed members to vote by post, meaning elderly members who do not have email addresses were still given a vote

Somehow I had thought the rules had been changed so it would be an MP-only vote.

Oh no. Not that gang again. It really is going to be Johnson, isn't it?

[silverhibee]

I think he's made it obvious there isn't anything going on at the moment but he wishes there was and would join in if there was. So would I. We need to be more ****ing french :sauzee: and not take any more of this absolute nonsense from our (supposed) elected representatives. The government are not made by god or by right, they only govern with our consent. There is a long and noble tradition of hundreds of years of tradition and political enlightenment thought behind that understanding.

In my young days I was up for a bit protesting in the Thatcher era, spent a few nights locked up for breaches of the peace, would travel about Scotland screaming abuse at tories so I’m up for anything to get this cartel out of Londongrad.

[Hibernia&Alba]

The Tory party membership forced Liz Truss on the country, and she lasted six weeks. If they force Boris on the country for the second time, they will destroy their own party. However, they are such fanatics, I can see them doing it. If Boris wins and is then found guilty of lying to parliament by the Standards Commitee, then what? This is their last chance to put country before party before they are wiped out at the next election, but I don't think they are capable of it. 100,000 swivel-eyed loons have the country as hostage.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

https://news.sky.com/story/first-picture-of-boris-johnson-as-he-flies-back-to-the-uk-12726835

Economy class, child climbing on top of him, a normal family coming back from holiday.

Aye okay. Photo op, sit with the plebs, try to show I'm one of them and **** it all by wearing a suit

[Stairway 2 7]

Looks like rishi going to get over half of mps. Mordaunt no chance unless boris doesn't run. Could be close to whether boris gets the 100. Although it's all cloak and daggers.

https://mobile.twitter.com/patrickjfl/status/1583563555055730688


Thing that I find not hilarious, is tories are wanting people to have to bring a passport to every election in future ro stop fraud. The next prime minister will be chosen by an online poll, like a championship team picking their next strip

[wookie70]

https://news.sky.com/story/first-picture-of-boris-johnson-as-he-flies-back-to-the-uk-12726835

Economy class, child climbing on top of him, a normal family coming back from holiday.

Aye okay. Photo op, sit with the plebs, try to show I'm one of them and **** it all by wearing a suit
He has maybe already spent his 115k allowance as an ex PM

[Sylar]

Watching BBC Breakfast right now...remind me to never visit the utter hellhole that is Romford. The folks that live there are clearly barking ****ing mad.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Watching BBC Breakfast right now...remind me to never visit the utter hellhole that is Romford. The folks that live there are clearly barking ****ing mad.

Essex man. :greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

Essex man. :greengrinThere are plenty folk from other parts of Essex who refer to Romford man, and don't even mention Grays!

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[hibsbollah]

Watching BBC Breakfast right now...remind me to never visit the utter hellhole that is Romford. The folks that live there are clearly barking ****ing mad.

The other misery about this new ‘election’ is our tv news screens are filled with angry old bitter Tories whining and moaning and talking about issues that mean nothing to the rest of us. It consumes all public discourse at a time when kids are literally starving in the worlds fifth largest economy.

[Bostonhibby]

The other misery about this new ‘election’ is our tv news screens are filled with angry old bitter Tories whining and moaning and talking about issues that mean nothing to the rest of us. It consumes all public discourse at a time when kids are literally starving in the worlds fifth largest economy.Yep, we are back to quite a lot of soundbites down here that are about needing Boris to "unite" the party, lead the war against Putin etc. I guess he's been running it remotely recently.


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[Hibernia&Alba]

The other misery about this new ‘election’ is our tv news screens are filled with angry old bitter Tories whining and moaning and talking about issues that mean nothing to the rest of us. It consumes all public discourse at a time when kids are literally starving in the worlds fifth largest economy.

It's estimated that one person in seven in the UK is now skipping meals on a daily basis. Shameful stuff.

[ronaldo7]

The other misery about this new ‘election’ is our tv news screens are filled with angry old bitter Tories whining and moaning and talking about issues that mean nothing to the rest of us. It consumes all public discourse at a time when kids are literally starving in the worlds fifth largest economy.

I just switched on sky news to see a plane landing with the ticker saying "Boris has landed", switched over to the BBC and they've got it as breaking news. The cult of Boris is strong in media circles.

[hibsbollah]

I just switched on sky news to see a plane landing with the ticker saying "Boris has landed", switched over to the BBC and they've got it as breaking news. The cult of Boris is strong in media circles.

The cult of the clown.

[He's here!]

Somehow I had thought the rules had been changed so it would be an MP-only vote.

Oh no. Not that gang again. It really is going to be Johnson, isn't it?

Depends if there's more than one candidate by Monday. If it's clear, for example, that Sunak is the overwhelming choice of MPs it won't go to a membership vote.

Despite his ego, Johnson may yet not stand if it becomes clear he's not certain of winning.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

The cult of the clown.

Or ****** of a clown

[Stairway 2 7]

Depends if there's more than one candidate by Monday. If it's clear, for example, that Sunak is the overwhelming choice of MPs it won't go to a membership vote.

Despite his ego, Johnson may yet not stand if it becomes clear he's not certain of winning.

If he knows he's got enough for it to go to members he'll go for it. It's whether he gets the number

[He's here!]

If he knows he's got enough for it to go to members he'll go for it. It's whether he gets the number

Yes no question he would go for it if he has the numbers. And would more than likely win if it goes to the party members.

My hope is that there are deals being made between the Sunak and Mordaunt camps to try and keep him out.

[Callum_62]

I hope we get to Monday at 2pm and Sunak is installed as PM

Not that I'm a huge fan of his but its entirely the clear sensible option

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[Steven79]

I hope we get to Monday at 2pm and Sunak is installed as PM

Not that I'm a huge fan of his but its entirely the clear sensible option

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Boris Johnson it is then...

[Stairway 2 7]

Mon the yoot

GoodwinMJ
·
NEW. Just 7% of under-50s plan to vote Conservative at next election

@PeoplePolling Oct 20.

[Bostonhibby]

The cult of the clown.He's definitely a cult

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[Moulin Yarns]

I just switched on sky news to see a plane landing with the ticker saying "Boris has landed", switched over to the BBC and they've got it as breaking news. The cult of Boris is strong in media circles.

The Ego has landed.

Chris Mason saying he has more than 100 backing him.

[grunt]

Chris Mason saying he has more than 100 backing him.And then the discussions start about whether he really does, or if his team is just spinning that story to see how it lands.

Ian Dunt (as so often) gets to the heart of the matter:


Notice how quickly Johnson corrodes the fabric of politics. Does he have 100 backers or is it a lie? Either could be true. You never know, because you operate on the assumption that he lies as easily as he breathes.

[Bostonhibby]

This seems like a fairly decent summaryhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221022/d4e6eb4d658f38761bbcf5a9cd0152d9.jpg

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[Hibrandenburg]

I just switched on sky news to see a plane landing with the ticker saying "Boris has landed", switched over to the BBC and they've got it as breaking news. The cult of Boris is strong in media circles.

The media have a lot to answer for regarding the state of the country, they've created cult figures out of fools and charlatans.

[Colr]

Watching BBC Breakfast right now...remind me to never visit the utter hellhole that is Romford. The folks that live there are clearly barking ****ing mad.

You’re not wrong.

[Hibernia&Alba]

The party which represents the majority of Britons:


https://youtu.be/YOjdf_nkgTo

[Callum_62]

Looks like Johnson struggling to reach 100 backers

Wont be surprised to see Rushi PM on Monday now

Twists and turns tomorrow likely

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[cabbageandribs1875]

blame the enablers :agree:

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/311639043_10218520421756088_7121676732747028618_n. jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Kl5kCxm3L-oAX9Tg7Qt&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT9DNaQX5dpsH-T8sdBDHrEzEl6g0Mf5mYhzdIDD1krMaw&oe=635918E0

[Andy Bee]

blame the enablers :agree:

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/311639043_10218520421756088_7121676732747028618_n. jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Kl5kCxm3L-oAX9Tg7Qt&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT9DNaQX5dpsH-T8sdBDHrEzEl6g0Mf5mYhzdIDD1krMaw&oe=635918E0


He gets to 100 and this is what he's facing, it's a shoe in.

https://twitter.com/MirrorDarren/status/1583862658654429184

[Kato]

He gets to 100 and this is what he's facing, it's a shoe in.

https://twitter.com/MirrorDarren/status/1583862658654429184The biggest thing I'm taking from that is he thinks Boris loves England. Boris loves Boris. The racism is just standard among some of members of that party.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

He gets to 100 and this is what he's facing, it's a shoe in.

https://twitter.com/MirrorDarren/status/1583862658654429184


i just came across this on my news feed, Johnson accused of lying about his numbers...shirly not


Boris Johnson accused of 'lying over having 100 backers for PM' as Rishi demands proof (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/boris-johnson-accused-of-lying-over-having-100-backers-for-pm-as-rishi-demands-proof/ar-AA13gCgo?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3f1b782892884b288bd9f599012fb474)

[Bostonhibby]

i just came across this on my news feed, Johnson accused of lying about his numbers...shirly not


Boris Johnson accused of 'lying over having 100 backers for PM' as Rishi demands proof (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/boris-johnson-accused-of-lying-over-having-100-backers-for-pm-as-rishi-demands-proof/ar-AA13gCgo?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3f1b782892884b288bd9f599012fb474)https://twitter.com/Wrexit/status/1583938871150067712?t=6uC57dqjSoCChdjXuLCINA&s=08

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[Andy Bee]

i just came across this on my news feed, Johnson accused of lying about his numbers...shirly not


Boris Johnson accused of 'lying over having 100 backers for PM' as Rishi demands proof (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/boris-johnson-accused-of-lying-over-having-100-backers-for-pm-as-rishi-demands-proof/ar-AA13gCgo?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3f1b782892884b288bd9f599012fb474)

So with Johnson "declaring (lying) he has 100 backers" we get all the little night crawlers like 30p Lee jumping on the bandwagon in the hope they get a cabinet position knowing that the party members will not vote for a brown person, **** me. It's time to get out of Dodge.

[overdrive]

He gets to 100 and this is what he's facing, it's a shoe in.

https://twitter.com/MirrorDarren/status/1583862658654429184

Wait until that guy finds out that as well as being born in NYC as the presenter pointed out, Boris is of Turkish origin and that his great great grandfather served as a minister in the government of the Ottoman Empire.

[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/AvaSantina/status/1583933770154987520?t=qkoMA63KduWo4qpU_v9mqQ&s=19

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221022/a967592afe4dffea6d0b24a0acc81231.jpg

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[Andy Bee]

Wait until that guy finds out that as well as being born in NYC as the presenter pointed out, Boris is of Turkish origin and that his great great grandfather served as a minister in the government of the Ottoman Empire.


You're missing the point my friend, this isn't a competition of who is more "British" don't go down that rabbit hole, it's down to who can help people in this country who are really struggling and our Government at the moment are more inclined to find a route of how to retain their salaries rather than what's happening in the country.

[Callum_62]

You're missing the point my friend, this isn't a competition of who is more "British" don't go down that rabbit hole, it's down to who can help people in this country who are really struggling and our Government at the moment are more inclined to find a route of how to retain their salaries rather than what's happening in the country.In the callers mind it's about who's whiter (British)

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[Andy Bee]

In the callers mind it's about who's whiter (British)

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I agree but the more serious problem is he's one of the halfwits that have the honour of choosing the next PM and it's more to do with keeping these ***** in power rather than what's best for the country.

[Stairway 2 7]

Meeting between rishi and boris last night, probably on what job boris gets to back down.

Delighted boris won't be PM again as he really should be prosecuted if anything, but this isn't in any way "good news". While I didn't want boris to win, rishi is utterly repugnant too.

He's the most fiscally right wing. He fought boris over any spending including hs2, furlough, lockdowns, benefits payments. His baby is charter cities where business will rule and people will be slaves.

There is no good news here we can expect hard austerity and the rule of big business. We'll freeze as a billionaire who admits he has no working class friends, tells us to tighten our belts.

We need a general election and these Cs out

[Bostonhibby]

Meeting between rishi and boris last night, probably on what job boris gets to back down.

Delighted boris won't be PM again as he really should be prosecuted if anything, but this isn't in any way "good news". While I didn't want boris to win, rishi is utterly repugnant too.

He's the most fiscally right wing. He fought boris over any spending including hs2, furlough, lockdowns, benefits payments. His baby is charter cities where business will rule and people will be slaves.

There is no good news here we can expect hard austerity and the rule of big business. We'll freeze as a billionaire who admits he has no working class friends, tells us to tighten our belts.

We need a general election and these Cs outVery likely but maybe bozo was trying to find a way/use some leverage to block this?

Hopefully Sunak does a Johnson and promises one thing then does the other as hopefully a full and Frank report exposes Bozo for what he is?

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1584088765395439616?t=ekWBEVj30k-SQVmvCwDu1Q&s=08

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[Hiber-nation]

Mordaunt refusing to answer a single question on Kuenssberg just now. Not that it'll matter but just an example of how much they take us for idiots.

[Stairway 2 7]

Very likely but maybe bozo was trying to find a way/use some leverage to block this?

Hopefully Sunak does a Johnson and promises one thing then does the other as hopefully a full and Frank report exposes Bozo for what he is?

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1584088765395439616?t=ekWBEVj30k-SQVmvCwDu1Q&s=08

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It irks me that **** bags like Steve barker etc al are saying they are chosing rishi for moral reasons.

Rishi met with the signatories of the great Barrington declaration and brought them to number 10, who then basically said covid is the cold. He didn't want furlough and wanted it ended quicker, he opposed every lockdown and got a fixed penalty notice also.

They should both be up in court, none of them come out of covid with anything but disgrace

[GlesgaeHibby]

Mordaunt refusing to answer a single question on Kuenssberg just now. Not that it'll matter but just an example of how much they take us for idiots.

Utterly ridiculous. Running to be PM and refusing to say what she'd do if she became PM.

[Killiehibbie]

Utterly ridiculous. Running to be PM and refusing to say what she'd do if she became PM.

It was all set out in the 2019 manifesto.
So you would reduce immigration to under 100000 per year?
Not telling you.

[Stairway 2 7]

Utterly ridiculous. Running to be PM and refusing to say what she'd do if she became PM.

Was really bizarre eh. Won't say on tax spending or defence. Surely she should be trying to win over MPs.

No deal done last night
https://mobile.twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1584098257885573121

[Bostonhibby]

It irks me that **** bags like Steve barker etc al are saying they are chosing rishi for moral reasons.

Rishi met with the signatories of the great Barrington declaration and brought them to number 10, who then basically said covid is the cold. He didn't want furlough and wanted it ended quicker, he opposed every lockdown and got a fixed penalty notice also.

They should both be up in court, none of them come out of covid with anything but disgrace

They judge which way the tides going and swim with it to save their own skins. Nothing more. Rats in a sack. Sunak/ Mourdant will get theirs but we are long overdue Bozo's head on a plate-Bullingdon club style would do nicely.

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[GlesgaeHibby]

Boris' camp now touting the fact he's managed to dress smartly and tuck his shirt in as a sign that he's really serious now and means business.

[Killiehibbie]

Boris' camp now touting the fact he's managed to dress smartly and tuck his shirt in as a sign that he's really serious now and means business.
Learning to tie his laces next on the list.

[Bostonhibby]

Boris' camp now touting the fact he's managed to dress smartly and tuck his shirt in as a sign that he's really serious now and means business.But is he still having off piste meetings with Russians?

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[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1584114970723512321?t=Rrs8UtRreqDWFHFm0Okl2A&s=19

Rishi stands

Will Boris follow suit?

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[overdrive]

Meeting between rishi and boris last night, probably on what job boris gets to back down.

Delighted boris won't be PM again as he really should be prosecuted if anything, but this isn't in any way "good news". While I didn't want boris to win, rishi is utterly repugnant too.

He's the most fiscally right wing. He fought boris over any spending including hs2, furlough, lockdowns, benefits payments. His baby is charter cities where business will rule and people will be slaves.

There is no good news here we can expect hard austerity and the rule of big business. We'll freeze as a billionaire who admits he has no working class friends, tells us to tighten our belts.

We need a general election and these Cs out

Yep. Pains me to say it but fiscally, Johnson is probably least unpalatable of the three. He’s an absolute tosspot and a racist though and should be nowhere near government again nevermind PM.

I really fear for the next two years as there’s absolutely no chance the Tories will allow an election.

[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/IsabelOakeshott/status/1584142807526440960?t=HfqHcrYPax84wM9EZG79Wg&s=19

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[Stairway 2 7]

More of the same then with some added austerity

Steven_Swinford
·
Suella Braverman's Telegraph article gives an insight into what to expect from a Rishi Sunak govt:

* Legislation to limit impact of Human Rights Act

* Delivering on Rwanda

* Pushing ahead with legislation to over-ride NI protocol

* A firm line on 'trans ideology' in schools

[grunt]

* Delivering on Rwanda
They'll have to find another airline in that case.

[neil7908]

More of the same then with some added austerity

Steven_Swinford
·
Suella Braverman's Telegraph article gives an insight into what to expect from a Rishi Sunak govt:

* Legislation to limit impact of Human Rights Act

* Delivering on Rwanda

* Pushing ahead with legislation to over-ride NI protocol

* A firm line on 'trans ideology' in schools

The scary thing is that most folk (in England at least) will lap up a lot of that. The only reason the Tories poll ratings are in the toilet is many our now getting hit in their pocket and the blame cannot be passed onto anyone else.

If Sunak can even somewhat steady the economy then I think it'll be a real fight for Labour in 2024.

[Stairway 2 7]

The scary thing is that most folk (in England at least) will lap up a lot of that. The only reason the Tories poll ratings are in the toilet is many our now getting hit in their pocket and the blame cannot be passed onto anyone else.

If Sunak can even somewhat steady the economy then I think it'll be a real fight for Labour in 2024.

Most folk, is nonsense. It goes to the thing that England is full of racists and Scotland the opposite. Someone put a poll up showing similar levels of racist feelings in both. Scotland certainly more left wing but England isn't full of racists. Most in England oppose Rwanda and brexit now also.

The economy won't recover in the next 2 years so I wouldn't count on that if I were them. Labour will win comfortably imo

[Stairway 2 7]

If he gets 100 and wins members vote, how does he make a government

https://mobile.twitter.com/Channel4/status/1584172789757612033

@Channel4
Former Chancellor
@George_Osborne
tells
@AFNeil
there’s a ‘real chance’ Tory MPs won’t ‘accept the result’ if
@BorisJohnson
were to win against
@RishiSunak
in the Conservative members’ ballot - predicting a ‘crisis’ by the end of the week

[hibsbollah]

Most folk, is nonsense. It goes to the thing that England is full of racists and Scotland the opposite. Someone put a poll up showing similar levels of racist feelings in both. Scotland certainly more left wing but England isn't full of racists. Most in England oppose Rwanda and brexit now also.

The economy won't recover in the next 2 years so I wouldn't count on that if I were them. Labour will win comfortably imo

Neil probably meant ‘a lot of folk’ more than ‘most folk’. The actual opinion polling at a U.K. level is 35% support the Rwanda policy, 45 against and 20 don’t knows, which is pretty shocking to me. It might not be the majority but it’s bad enough, and lots of people, particularly but not exclusively south of the border, will indeed ‘lap it up’.

[Hibrandenburg]

Neil probably meant ‘a lot of folk’ more than ‘most folk’. The actual opinion polling at a U.K. level is 35% support the Rwanda policy, 45 against and 20 don’t knows, which is pretty shocking to me. It might not be the majority but it’s bad enough, and lots of people, particularly but not exclusively south of the border, will indeed ‘lap it up’.

35% actively support it and I'd wager many more will be willing to look the other way providing the government build good Autobahns.

[grunt]

The actual opinion polling at a U.K. level is 35% support the Rwanda policy...Disgusting. Tory ****.

[Stairway 2 7]

Neil probably meant ‘a lot of folk’ more than ‘most folk’. The actual opinion polling at a U.K. level is 35% support the Rwanda policy, 45 against and 20 don’t knows, which is pretty shocking to me. It might not be the majority but it’s bad enough, and lots of people, particularly but not exclusively south of the border, will indeed ‘lap it up’.
The fact he said most, made me think he meant most.

There is a large number of racists bs North and south of the border but not most

[Stairway 2 7]

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2022/06/13/c8bf1/1

27% of uk strongly supports the Rwanda policy
20% in London
22% in Scotland

strongly appose
28% in uk
45% in London
36% in Scotland


Scotland more apposed than rest of uk but still too much support.

[Kato]

More of the same then with some added austerity

Steven_Swinford
·
Suella Braverman's Telegraph article gives an insight into what to expect from a Rishi Sunak govt:

* Legislation to limit impact of Human Rights Act

* Delivering on Rwanda

* Pushing ahead with legislation to over-ride NI protocol

* A firm line on 'trans ideology' in schoolsEconomic crisis and the above policies are supposed to solve what?

What a bunch of *****.

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[Ozyhibby]

Most folk, is nonsense. It goes to the thing that England is full of racists and Scotland the opposite. Someone put a poll up showing similar levels of racist feelings in both. Scotland certainly more left wing but England isn't full of racists. Most in England oppose Rwanda and brexit now also.

The economy won't recover in the next 2 years so I wouldn't count on that if I were them. Labour will win comfortably imo

Doesn’t have to recover, just be recovering. Then it’s ‘Don’t let Labour kill the recovery with their coalition of chaos with the SNP’.


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[stokesmessiah]

BJ asked Penny to drop out and back him, she rejected….

he isn’t going to get the numbers is he?

[Kato]

Doesn’t have to recover, just be recovering. Then it’s ‘Don’t let Labour kill the recovery with their coalition of chaos with the SNP’.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkPredictions for an actual recovery are pretty grim but your are correct. They will hammer the stats from a certain and massage whichever stats will fit a positive narrative for them.

Anything measured from the start of their actual tenure just makes them look like avaricious grifters.

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[Bostonhibby]

Doesn’t have to recover, just be recovering. Then it’s ‘Don’t let Labour kill the recovery with their coalition of chaos with the SNP’.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkRight on the money re the economy and the SNP, a distraction is an important part of Nasty party tactics, now that most of the faithful think the EU is gone from their lives and foreigners are being deported there's quite an irrational anti SNP feeling building and stoked quite deliberately.

As we get nearer an election or the next big scandal it'll be a case of look at them, not at us.

Easy targets for a predominantly right wing southern government looking to deflect. Something monosyllabic about the SNP could well spring up on the side of a bus to replace the slogan about all that cash that was going to the NHS.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Doesn’t have to recover, just be recovering. Then it’s ‘Don’t let Labour kill the recovery with their coalition of chaos with the SNP’.


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Won't be recovering. This is just getting started it's going to be a horrendous horrendous 2 years. Straight away he's going to have to find massive cuts that won't be popular. The global as well as uk economy is going to tank. What does he do with energy prices as they will be huge next year, markets don't want subsidy but consumers can't afford to pay. Mortgage owners at the end of fixed term are about to go through hell. Brexit isn't going anywhere and mass strikes inevitable

They probably should have let labour take over and take the next awful years.

[Stairway 2 7]

I think you've combined Against and Opposed there, buddy.

? The % is how much in those 3 different areas strongly supports, then opposes

[neil7908]

Neil probably meant ‘a lot of folk’ more than ‘most folk’. The actual opinion polling at a U.K. level is 35% support the Rwanda policy, 45 against and 20 don’t knows, which is pretty shocking to me. It might not be the majority but it’s bad enough, and lots of people, particularly but not exclusively south of the border, will indeed ‘lap it up’.

Thanks, my language wasn't clear which is of course on me but you are right. A better way of putting it would be enough of the voting public to make a difference will lap that up.

[neil7908]

Most folk, is nonsense. It goes to the thing that England is full of racists and Scotland the opposite. Someone put a poll up showing similar levels of racist feelings in both. Scotland certainly more left wing but England isn't full of racists. Most in England oppose Rwanda and brexit now also.

The economy won't recover in the next 2 years so I wouldn't count on that if I were them. Labour will win comfortably imo

I've already noted in another post that most folk is not factually correct and my wording was poorly chosen but that I still stand by the thrust of what was in my post.

English voters are not particularly put off by any of the 4 policies mentioned and only have now turned on the Tories as their mortgage payments have started going up.

[Stairway 2 7]

I've already noted in another post that most folk is not factually correct and my wording was poorly chosen but that I still stand by the thrust of what was in my post.

English voters are not particularly put off by any of the 4 policies mentioned and only have now turned on the Tories as their mortgage payments have started going up.
33% of Scots polled there also agree with the policy unfortunately. I think it shows a large number of people think of politics in terms of how it affects them. You can tell this by how much pensions are talked about in independence debates.

I'm just pointing out to say England is far right racists, Scotland left wing liberals. The difference is real but not huge. Demonising is a poor part of nationalism. Yes more voted for boris but a massive number voted for Corbyn who is far left of the snp. Regardless I'm confident labour win the next election. If I didn't I'd be straight to the bookmakers as the odds are big just now

[Keith_M]

I've already noted in another post that most folk is not factually correct and my wording was poorly chosen but that I still stand by the thrust of what was in my post.

English voters are not particularly put off by any of the 4 policies mentioned and only have now turned on the Tories as their mortgage payments have started going up.


I was speaking to a Tory voter today and she was raging that Truss/Kwarteng ****show will mean her daughter will struggle to pay her mortgage for the foreseeable future.

Has it put her off voting Tory? No, she thinks everything will be OK.... if they can just get Boris back.

[SHODAN]

I'm now firmly in the Back Boris camp. Not because I actually like him, or any of his policies, it's just hilarious that this is a guy the political and journalist class brought in temporarily to remove a genuine threat to their lifestyle and place at the top of society (Corbyn) with the expectation that they could use their leverage to remove him when the job was done. And they can't. He has proven that the political system in this country is utterly broken and relies exclusively on centuries-old gentleman's agreements that can be ripped up at a moment's notice.

He's the PM they deserve.

[grunt]

He's the PM they deserve.
Lets face it, we're in a no-win position here. Every one of the candidates will be a disaster for the country.

[cabbageandribs1875]

(1) Conor Gogarty on Twitter: "THREAD: Here's a handy list of Tory MPs who said Boris Johnson had to go in July and are now saying he should be PM. It's been quite the journey for some..." / Twitter (https://twitter.com/ConorGogarty/status/1584080730342428672)

[Kato]

(1) Conor Gogarty on Twitter: "THREAD: Here's a handy list of Tory MPs who said Boris Johnson had to go in July and are now saying he should be PM. It's been quite the journey for some..." / Twitter (https://twitter.com/ConorGogarty/status/1584080730342428672)What a bunch of cotton headed ninny muggins.

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[Hibernia&Alba]

BJ asked Penny to drop out and back him, she rejected….

he isn’t going to get the numbers is he?

That would be some laugh. Get it up him.

[Stairway 2 7]

Lets face it, we're in a no-win position here. Every one of the candidates will be a disaster for the country.

Spot on and the supposed light at the end of the tunnel is Starmer who wants to stay out eu

[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1584226231591264256?t=QO_8WK5wkMyXWXkx3z-PaA&s=19

Bring on the civil war [emoji1787]

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[Keith_M]

So it appears the claims of BJ already having reached the 100 mark is actually fake news.

AFAIK, he hasn't officially said he's standing, so if he still hasn't reached 100 mark by the cut-off time tomorrow, he'll probably claim he never had any intention of standing in the first place.

[Callum_62]

So it appears the claims of BJ already having reached the 100 mark is actually fake news.

AFAIK, he hasn't officially said he's standing, so if he still hasn't reached 100 mark by the cut-off time tomorrow, he'll probably claim he never had any intention of standing in the first place.Does look like it

https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1584210906678202368?t=ccGg50IFK2t97vcj4ViW_g&s=19

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[Kato]

Does look like it

https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1584210906678202368?t=ccGg50IFK2t97vcj4ViW_g&s=19

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkAll based on polling as to what people "believe".

Nothing as what he is promising to do.

All about saving the Party and nothing to do with solving the problems.

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[Callum_62]

All based on polling as to what people "believe".

Nothing as what he is promising to do.

All about saving the Party and nothing to do with solving the problems.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkNaturally, goes without saying

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[Hibernia&Alba]

So, it looks like the plan is to ensure only Sunak gets the one hundred nominations needed, thus no membership vote. A coronation.

[Hibrandenburg]

Johnson not standing. Guess he couldn't scrape the votes together.

[Jonnyboy]

Johnson not standing. Guess he couldn't scrape the votes together.

Says he had 102 votes so I’m guessing he’ll (lie) that he’s dropping out for the sake of party unity 😂

[Mon Dieu4]

First time Bojo has ever pulled out

[He's here!]

Johnson not standing. Guess he couldn't scrape the votes together.

Good news.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1584276583153512448?t=HDCB8XpSVSJHwrAiyuV86A&s=19

[Moulin Yarns]

Bbc Laura


In a vintage Johnson statement, he even says there would have been a ‘very good chance’ he would have won with the members and ‘I could indeed be back in Downing Street by Friday’ - if he was sure of that, would he have held back? Again - we’ll never really know

[Callum_62]

Bet zahawi is delighted [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

I don't like Rishi (obviously being a tory) but I do feel him becoming PM is by a massive distance the best option from the pool of tories available (simply I think he will calm things down financially)

I'd rather have a GE though
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[Moulin Yarns]

So is Boris actually not standing - or will he have his arm twisted by some of the many people he’s taken money from before the 2pm deadline and decide the country needs him???

[Willis1875]

Bet zahawi is delighted [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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His recent tweet is a real thing of beauty

[Callum_62]

So is Boris actually not standing - or will he have his arm twisted by some of the many people he’s taken money from before the 2pm deadline and decide the country needs him???The thought did cross my mind but I doubt he even has 100 nominations to be honest



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[Callum_62]

His recent tweet is a real thing of beautyhttps://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1584280847141638144?t=uagBP3oqRspsexh7kXReLg&s=19


Hahaha bloody hell

Even better

https://twitter.com/AndrewEQuinn/status/1584282253395255297?t=H9CHYXK4YgiABgsmXLV1iA&s=19

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Bye bye Boris



hope someone is comforting Dorries

[Stairway 2 7]

Bet zahawi is delighted [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

I don't like Rishi (obviously being a tory) but I do feel him becoming PM is by a massive distance the best option from the pool of tories available (simply I think he will calm things down financially)

I'd rather have a GE though
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Rishi will be the worst for the least well off in society, by far. He likes austerity, benefit cuts and cuts to the services. He's a huge danger to the NHS has had regular meetings with American medical insurance companies. He wants to push the charter city plans, where business will be king and workers rights gone. Any calming of the markets will come from suffering and cuts

[cabbageandribs1875]

Rishi will be the worst for the least well off in society, by far. He likes austerity, benefit cuts and cuts to the services. He's a huge danger to the NHS has had regular meetings with American medical insurance companies. He wants to push the charter city plans, where business will be king and workers rights gone. Any calming of the markets will come from suffering and cuts


would be no surprise if Sunak keeps jeremy *unt as chancellor, the ERG dream team that will finally privatise the NHS


then voters in england will be scratching their heads wondering why they suddenly start receiving bills from the GP/hospital appointments

[Hibbyradge]

Rishi will be the worst for the least well off in society, by far. He likes austerity, benefit cuts and cuts to the services. He's a huge danger to the NHS has had regular meetings with American medical insurance companies. He wants to push the charter city plans, where business will be king and workers rights gone. Any calming of the markets will come from suffering and cuts

He'll need more than 2 years to start on most of those projects, but in the short term, he's only going to get the blame for the mess the country is in.

If I was a betting man, I'd be lumping on a Labour majority in 2024.

[Stairway 2 7]

would be no surprise if Sunak keeps jeremy *unt as chancellor, the ERG dream team that will finally privatise the NHS


then voters in england will be scratching their heads wondering why they suddenly start receiving bills from the GP/hospital appointments
From June "Opportunities in the UK"

https://mobile.twitter.com/theipaper/status/1540016035172175876

i newspaper
@theipaper
Rishi Sunak met private US social care providers to discuss ‘opportunities’ in the UK

[Hibbyradge]

From June "Opportunities in the UK"

https://mobile.twitter.com/theipaper/status/1540016035172175876

i newspaper
@theipaper
Rishi Sunak met private US social care providers to discuss ‘opportunities’ in the UK

Didn't Hunt do something similar?

[Stairway 2 7]

He'll need more than 2 years to start on most of those projects, but in the short term, he's only going to get the blame for the mess the country is in.

If I was a betting man, I'd be lumping on a Labour majority in 2024.

Can do decent damage. The energy subsidy ends in spring. Will he raise benefits with inflation. Nhs and other public sector cuts. Its really worrying how much damage they could do in their 14 year term

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221023/48f31fc4a7e1e51069c249a38cea0480.jpg


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[GlesgaeHibby]

https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1584286592252137472?t=xbCOn3b7KW8T4uwPYSc8VQ&s=19

[weecounty hibby]

How have we got ourselves into a place where Tory **** like Johnson and sunak have turned into Boris and Rishi like their everyone's best pals? They're ***** who would steal the last penny from working folk to make sure that the richest in society are looked after. They are not our friends! Has annoyed me since Johnson cultivated that cuddly oaf persona. He is an evil ******* like the rest of them!

[Stairway 2 7]

Didn't Hunt do something similar?

Not sure. He did make massive cuts, both to wages and capacity. Awful health minister

[Hibbyradge]

Can do decent damage. The energy subsidy ends in spring. Will he raise benefits with inflation. Nhs and other public sector cuts. Its really worrying how much damage they could do in their 14 year term

Definitely, but unless they're going to privately concede the GE is lost, he'll still have to try to appeal to the electorate.

I don't think he'll be a popular PM, so it's all there for Labour and the more austere he is, the more that's the case.

[Bostonhibby]

How have we got ourselves into a place where Tory **** like Johnson and sunak have turned into Boris and Rishi like their everyone's best pals? They're ***** who would steal the last penny from working folk to make sure that the richest in society are looked after. They are not our friends! Has annoyed me since Johnson cultivated that cuddly oaf persona. He is an evil ******* like the rest of them!Rats in a sack and one has emerged by the looks of it, most people outside of their clique will get as big a kicking under the billionaire tax dodger as they'd have got under Dim Lizzie's feeble attempt at an ideology or Bozo's game of financial Russian roulette.

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[Just_Jimmy]

How have we got ourselves into a place where Tory **** like Johnson and sunak have turned into Boris and Rishi like their everyone's best pals? They're ***** who would steal the last penny from working folk to make sure that the richest in society are looked after. They are not our friends! Has annoyed me since Johnson cultivated that cuddly oaf persona. He is an evil ******* like the rest of them!Correct. They're evil ****

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[Callum_62]

Mordaunt fighting on apparently

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[Hibbyradge]

Mordaunt fighting on apparently

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If she gets 100, she'll have a chance with the membership.

She's the right shade of white...

[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1584294869341655040?t=MZmbJNDZgQoH9swpld0cDg&s=19

Lol

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[Callum_62]

If she gets 100, she'll have a chance with the membership.

She's the right shade of white...She's definately more 'British' than Sunak.

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[Callum_62]

Christ on a bike

An actual MP

Edit - ex MEP

https://twitter.com/DCBMEP/status/1584296167872950272?t=ox3Cx-G_UvpP91Cr-OlSsA&s=19

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[Stairway 2 7]

Christ on a bike

An actual MP

https://twitter.com/DCBMEP/status/1584296167872950272?t=ox3Cx-G_UvpP91Cr-OlSsA&s=19

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Don't think he's an mp

[He's here!]

Bbc Laura


In a vintage Johnson statement, he even says there would have been a ‘very good chance’ he would have won with the members and ‘I could indeed be back in Downing Street by Friday’ - if he was sure of that, would he have held back? Again - we’ll never really know

It's certainly classic Johnson...I would have won but have selflessly decided give someone else a shot.

I doubt he had the numbers. Probably not far off but not enough. As you say we'll never know for sure.

[He's here!]

If she gets 100, she'll have a chance with the membership.

She's the right shade of white...

First non-white Prime Minister of the UK looking likely...that's something of genuine significance that's been lost amid the infighting.

[Stairway 2 7]

First non-white Prime Minister of the UK looking likely...that's something of genuine significance that's been lost amid the infighting.

I'm all for inclusion and that is certainly significant. But just as our first female prime minister was an evil horrible ****, so will our first non white.

[He's here!]

If she gets 100, she'll have a chance with the membership.

She's the right shade of white...

Be interesting to see where Johnson's votes go. If he really did have circa 100 and enough of them can't stand Sunak enough to vote for him it could be interesting. A very long shot though and I suspect she'll withdraw her candidacy in the morning.

She would be my first choice though. Think she'd land quite well across most of the country including Scotland. Starmer and Blackford would also struggle to play the 'wealthy, privileged' card against her.

[Hibbyradge]

Be interesting to see where Johnson's votes go. If he really did have circa 100 and enough of them can't stand Sunak enough to vote for him it could be interesting. A very long shot though and I suspect she'll withdraw her candidacy in the morning.

She would be my first choice though. Think she'd land quite well across most of the country including Scotland. Starmer and Blackford would also struggle to play the 'wealthy, privileged' card against her.

She may be playing for a senior cabinet role, but if she gets to 100, it'd be worth putting a couple of quid on Bet365.

[He's here!]

I'm all for inclusion and that is certainly significant. But just as our first female prime minister was an evil horrible ****, so will our first non white.

Thought he did a good job during lockdown. Pretty much the only leading member of government to do so. In what way is he 'evil'? Strikes me as relatively sensible/normal by politician standards.

Of course if Covid hadn't struck (or if he'd opted for his preferred Swedish-style non-lockdown approach) Boris would most likely still be PM.

[BroxburnHibee]

She may be playing for a senior cabinet role, but if she gets to 100, it'd be worth putting a couple of quid on Bet365.

I suspect she'll do a deal to get a top job. Probably Foreign Secretary. Sunak will be PM tomorrow

[Stairway 2 7]

Thought he did a good job during lockdown. Pretty much the only leading member of government to do so. In what way is he 'evil'? Strikes me as relatively sensible/normal by politician standards.

Of course if Covid hadn't struck (or if he'd opted for his preferred Swedish-style non-lockdown approach) Boris would most likely still be PM.

Rishi didn't want any lockdown even the first. If it was up to him possibly hundreds of thousands more would have died. He invited signatories of the great Barrington declaration and covid deniers into speak to the cabinet. He fought and lost to stop furlough.

https://mobile.twitter.com/richardjmurphy/status/1346374628420292608
@RichardJMurphy
In September 2020 Rishi Sunak invited the supposed free market fundamentalist authors of the Great Barrington Declaration to Downing Street to persuade Johnson that the coronavirus should be let rip to create herd immunity, and save his budget. The rest is history

[Chorley Hibee]

Another piece of work that doesn't give a **** about us.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/05/video-emerges-of-rishi-sunak-admitting-to-taking-money-from-deprived-areas

[neil7908]

Bbc Laura


In a vintage Johnson statement, he even says there would have been a ‘very good chance’ he would have won with the members and ‘I could indeed be back in Downing Street by Friday’ - if he was sure of that, would he have held back? Again - we’ll never really know

That statement from Boris is pure Trump. What a ****bag.

I hope he ****s off for good now.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/23/22/63771531-0-image-a-7_1666560312341.jpg

[Hibernia&Alba]

So, the egomaniac Bozo returned from his holiday with a plan to save his party and save the world, had the support required from MPs.....then decided not to bother, for the good of the country. Okay :aok:

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

The MP's who have been duped into Boris's latest vanity project must be feeling a bit vulnerable now.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://mobile.twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/1584139937535827969

@PeterStefanovi2
Rishi Sunak - who as Chancellor oversaw the highest inflation in 40 years, the biggest drop in living standards since 1956, the biggest fall in wages since records began & UK trade performance at its worst level on record has just tweeted he wants to “fix our economy

[Callum_62]

https://mobile.twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/1584139937535827969

@PeterStefanovi2
Rishi Sunak - who as Chancellor oversaw the highest inflation in 40 years, the biggest drop in living standards since 1956, the biggest fall in wages since records began & UK trade performance at its worst level on record has just tweeted he wants to “fix our economyTo be fair, you need to look at that with a more global outlook

Its not as if it was a normal few years

I say that as a hater of the tory party btw

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[Bostonhibby]

The MP's who have been duped into Boris's latest vanity project must be feeling a bit vulnerable now.They'll have flipped, and justified it in some way or other before we've finished our breakfast, some of their statements backing whoever is left are cringeworthy.

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[Stairway 2 7]

To be fair, you need to look at that with a more global outlook

Its not as if it was a normal few years

I say that as a hater of the tory party btw

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We've performed worse than every g7 nation so that doesn't tally with blaming it on world problems.

[hibsbollah]

To be fair, you need to look at that with a more global outlook

Its not as if it was a normal few years

I say that as a hater of the tory party btw

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The problem with that argument is it ignores that the Tories have spent 12 years parroting this nonsense about Labour causing an actual global economic crisis, in 2008, as if the ‘the money ran out’ note was actually some sort of admission of guilt,

The truth is, global market rule. The joke is ANY government claiming their economic ‘competence’ can prevent recession, when in fact boom and bust is a necessary component of the capitalist system. The best governments can do is hope to protect something good for the majority from the speculators.

[SHODAN]

Gutted.

[grunt]

A day is a long time in politics ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ff0eXxAXEAAdWbF?format=jpg&name=large

And then ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ff0eX8wXkAYjEGG?format=jpg&name=large

[Hibrandenburg]

Just to summarise, Boris Johnson cut short a family Caribbean Holiday to rush back to the UK so he could stand down from the party leadership election in the name of uniting the party despite having enough backers to ensure he would get to the next stage?

Liar liar pants on fire.

[grunt]

Just to summarise ...Alternatively:


That Johnson comeback in full: flew back from a luxury holiday, posed like a twat, begged his rivals, lied about his support, let down his allies and fell on his arse.

[JeMeSouviens]

Just to summarise, Boris Johnson cut short a family Caribbean Holiday to rush back to the UK so he could stand down from the party leadership election in the name of uniting the party despite having enough backers to ensure he would get to the next stage?

Liar liar pants on fire.

:agree:

Classic bad loser behaviour - "I never wanted to stand anyway". There's no way he had 100 votes.

Anyway, why do we allow paid public servants to bugger off on holiday whenever they feel like it?

[H18S NX]

Cleverly/Zahawi/Patel all supported Johnston yesterday,today all changed to Sunak,absolutely disgusting behaviour hoping for a nice wee job later.