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Lendo
05-07-2022, 05:13 PM
Javid has resigned and gone rogue. Bozo must be done.

Surely more to follow. Sunak maybe. No way Truss, Patel or Dorries are going

Ozyhibby
05-07-2022, 05:14 PM
Can’t see Johnson making it to the weekend now.


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SteveHFC
05-07-2022, 05:15 PM
Boris will be gone either by the end of this day or this week.

ronaldo7
05-07-2022, 05:16 PM
Pray for Nadine.

Mikey
05-07-2022, 05:17 PM
I think "BOOM" is the word we're looking for :greengrin

Hibbyradge
05-07-2022, 05:22 PM
They must have agreed a candidate.

hibsbollah
05-07-2022, 05:23 PM
Its that bad, the establishment is actually laughing at itself.

Minister prompts laughter in House of Lords as he tells them of 'robust system for upholding public standards'The statement that Michael Ellis, the Cabinet Office minister, read out to MPs as he answered the urgent question about standards in public life was particularly pompous and circumlocutionary. “We are fortunate in this country to have a sophisticated and robust system for upholding public standards,” Ellis told MPs. “That system is multi-faceted; it is made up of interlocking and complementary elements.” You can read the rest of it in its glory on the Hansard website (https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2022-07-05/debates/54A97440-B383-43DE-B948-A508B410A483/StandardsInPublicLife).
After an urgent question in the Commons, a minister in the House of Lords reads out the same statement, word for word, before taking questions. Lord True, a Cabinet Office minister, read Ellis’s statement to peers this afternoon and as he opened they responded by laughing. They seemed to find the line about “a sophisticated and robust system for upholding public standards” particularly amusing. Even Natalie Evans, the leader of the Lords sitting alongside True, seemed to see the funny side.
This is from Insider’s Henry Dyer.

WeeRussell
05-07-2022, 05:28 PM
The horrible bumbling lying tory c*** surely can’t haver on for much longer.

👋

Edit: to clarify, I’m talking about the prime minister and not anyone that may have posted on this thread.

Lendo
05-07-2022, 05:30 PM
Surely more to follow. Sunak maybe. No way Truss, Patel or Dorries are going

Offftt, and there goes Sunak

Hibernia&Alba
05-07-2022, 05:30 PM
They must have agreed a candidate.

Oh yes, this has been coordinated. Meetings behind closed doors and an agreed strategy to empty Bozo.

Ozyhibby
05-07-2022, 05:31 PM
The £ heading towards parity with the $ and we have no chancellor. [emoji23]


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Aldo
05-07-2022, 05:32 PM
Boris is surely F&£@ed now!


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Ozyhibby
05-07-2022, 05:34 PM
Chancellor Nadine Dorries anyone?[emoji102][emoji23]


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hibsbollah
05-07-2022, 05:35 PM
Raab is ****ed now. he was the last big billie baws doing the TV studio rounds earlier today being the Boris ultra loyalist, and now Boris is yesterdays man i can see Rabb being cast aside by whatever disgusting new regime takes over pretending to be different. I cant see him in a major role again. Always the one I despised the most, that one.

Lendo
05-07-2022, 05:35 PM
Chancellor Nadine Dorries anyone?[emoji102][emoji23]


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****ing terrifying prospect.

hibsbollah
05-07-2022, 05:37 PM
Ben Wallace, Kwarteng and Priti Patel all announce they are backing the PM.

Ozyhibby
05-07-2022, 05:37 PM
****ing terrifying prospect.

C’mon, it’ll be a laugh.[emoji23]


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SHODAN
05-07-2022, 05:38 PM
Nah, I think he'll survive this too.

Northernhibee
05-07-2022, 05:39 PM
Ben Wallace, Kwarteng and Priti Patel all announce they are backing the PM.

The ones who have no chance of getting a job under any other PM so they have no choice.

Javid and Sunak have a ****ing cheek to pretend to have any principles now.

hibsbollah
05-07-2022, 05:40 PM
The ones who have no chance of getting a job under any other PM so they have no choice.

Javid and Sunak have a ****ing cheek to pretend to have any principles now.

:agree:Probably

Ozyhibby
05-07-2022, 05:40 PM
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Bostonhibby
05-07-2022, 05:40 PM
The ones who have no chance of getting a job under any other PM so they have no choice.

Javid and Sunak have a ****ing cheek to pretend to have any principles now.Rats in a sack.

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Hibbyradge
05-07-2022, 05:40 PM
Chancellor Nadine Dorries anyone?[emoji102][emoji23]


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I just read someone asking if she might resign by mistake :faf:

WeeRussell
05-07-2022, 05:41 PM
The ones who have no chance of getting a job under any other PM so they have no choice.

Javid and Sunak have a ****ing cheek to pretend to have any principles now.

Exactly… can we expect any of them to admit to having gone along with all the lies and corruption up until now?

blackpoolhibs
05-07-2022, 05:41 PM
Are we sure they have resigned or are they just lying again?

hibsbollah
05-07-2022, 05:41 PM
Nah, I think he'll survive this too.

Nope, this has to be unclimbable even for him. They will have to actually re-name teflon after him if he survives this.

Mon Dieu4
05-07-2022, 05:43 PM
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There aren't actually many people in this world i hate but he really is close to the top of any list, Victorian **** would have your kids up chimneys if he could

Willis1875
05-07-2022, 05:44 PM
There aren't actually many people in this world i hate but he really is close to the top of any list, Victorian **** would have your kids up chimneys if he could

I despise everything and anything about the man!
How anybody can listen to him and think ‘he is on my level,he has my best interests at heart’ is beyond me

Lendo
05-07-2022, 05:45 PM
Ben Wallace, Kwarteng and Priti Patel all announce they are backing the PM.

Raab noticeably absent

Bostonhibby
05-07-2022, 05:46 PM
Raab noticeably absentGoing by his "interview" on the news this morning he will be waiting on someone to write some words for him to stumble through.

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Hibrandenburg
05-07-2022, 05:46 PM
Ben Wallace, Kwarteng and Priti Patel all announce they are backing the PM.

Because they know they'll never make cabinet under another leader.

Ryan91
05-07-2022, 05:48 PM
I despise everything and anything about the man!
How anybody can listen to him and think ‘he is on my level,he has my best interests at heart’ is beyond me

I'm yet to be convinced that he isn't secretly a walking parody of a Victorian upper-class bellend

Hibernia&Alba
05-07-2022, 05:49 PM
Ben Wallace, Kwarteng and Priti Patel all announce they are backing the PM.

Cruella Pritler knows she will never get another cabinet job under another PM. They will all be calculating what is in their own best interests, whether they remain or resign.

ronaldo7
05-07-2022, 05:51 PM
Anyone heard from the slippery Aberdonian disco loon?

Update...He's staying loyal to Johnson.

Bostonhibby
05-07-2022, 05:53 PM
Anyone heard from the slippery Aberdonian disco loon?Maybe lining up firmly behind Mr Pinchy?

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Northernhibee
05-07-2022, 05:53 PM
Nadine Dorries in No. 10 with the chief whip.

If she's made Chancellor or Health Secretary then god help us all.

ronaldo7
05-07-2022, 05:58 PM
Union Jack is supporting Johnson.

Mikey
05-07-2022, 05:59 PM
I thought there might have been a third resignation this evening. Wouldn't be surprised if he fills those posts and carries on.

Hibernia&Alba
05-07-2022, 06:02 PM
I thought there might have been a third resignation this evening. Wouldn't be surprised if he fills those posts and carries on.

I think there will be more resignations to come. Government ministers will now be trying to find out which way the wind is blowing and will then act in their own best interests. Once there is consensus that Bozo is finished, more will resign and claim they did so out of conscience. :rolleyes:

cabbageandribs1875
05-07-2022, 06:05 PM
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Ozyhibby
05-07-2022, 06:08 PM
Has Douglas Ross said what his position is today?


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SaulGoodman
05-07-2022, 06:11 PM
Has Douglas Ross said what his position is today?


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Northernhibee
05-07-2022, 06:13 PM
Has Douglas Ross said what his position is today?


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That what Johnson has done is dishonest in the extreme, that he's absolutely believable and credible and has his full backing as PM and he wants him to stay but he's just called him an Uber.

ronaldo7
05-07-2022, 06:15 PM
We'll see a spate of junior ministers on their way soon enough.

Andrew Murrison MP has just resigned as a trade envoy.

Stairway 2 7
05-07-2022, 06:16 PM
Kate Andrews
@KateAndrs
For 18 months, Rishi Sunak was basically the only person standing in-between the PM and unmitigated spending. Also one of the (very) few to see inflation coming and prepare the public finances for it. If PM stays, Sunak as the fiscally responsible backstop will be missed

Exhibit a

: Boris just concluded meeting of 80 or so Tory MPs following Sajid and Rishi's resignation. Am told he said:

"I know you’re all avidly in favour of tax cuts and tonight’s events might make that a bit easier to deliver

Stairway 2 7
05-07-2022, 06:22 PM
gavmacn
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Nadine Dorries has tried to submit a letter of resignation, but accidentally adopted a snow leopard

Hibbyradge
05-07-2022, 06:25 PM
Kate Andrews
@KateAndrs
For 18 months, Rishi Sunak was basically the only person standing in-between the PM and unmitigated spending. Also one of the (very) few to see inflation coming and prepare the public finances for it. If PM stays, Sunak as the fiscally responsible backstop will be missed

Exhibit a

: Boris just concluded meeting of 80 or so Tory MPs following Sajid and Rishi's resignation. Am told he said:

"I know you’re all avidly in favour of tax cuts and tonight’s events might make that a bit easier to deliver

I don't understand that.

Johnson wants to spend but now he wants tax cuts?

Stairway 2 7
05-07-2022, 06:28 PM
I don't understand that.

Johnson wants to spend but now he wants tax cuts?

I think she's saying rishi kept the purse strings tight more austerity, where as boris wants spending and less tax

Since90+2
05-07-2022, 06:28 PM
Surely to **** he has to go now.

Northernhibee
05-07-2022, 06:30 PM
Surely to **** he has to go now.

You'd think. I think he'll try to limp on but will be gone by the end of next week.

I also think we'll see a general election this year. They're divided into two camps now and can only see this ending hilariously.

neil7908
05-07-2022, 06:35 PM
Surely to **** he has to go now.

It's clear that he and his acolytes in the cabinet are not going anywhere. The only way he is going is if he's forced out by whatever legal mechanisms are in place.

He's been gone for months now and it's incredible to be think him, Dorries, Patel etc are so out of touch that they think he can survive.

It's down to the 1922 committee to change their rules and remove him which I'm in no doubt they will do.

He's clearly taken lessons from his mate Trump about clinging to power until the bitter end.

Northernhibee
05-07-2022, 06:36 PM
It's clear that he and his acolytes in the cabinet are not going anywhere. The only way he is going is if he's forced out by whatever legal mechanisms are in place.

He's been gone for months now and it's incredible to be think him, Dorries, Patel etc are so out of touch that they think he can survive.

It's down to the 1922 committee to change their rules and remove him which I'm in no doubt they will do.

He's clearly taken lessons from his mate Trump about clinging to power until the bitter end.

Is there any way he could force through a general election?

Stairway 2 7
05-07-2022, 06:38 PM
Can't see an election. They have years to rebuild. Inflation will drop massively over the next few years, they will have one as things appear to be getting better. They will also probably want the stench of partygate ect away, although no hiding from brexit

Stairway 2 7
05-07-2022, 06:39 PM
Gove since confirmed he's staying so 3 left on the fence

HugoGye
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I'm not aware that Zahawi, Gove, Eustice, Coffey have confirmed whether or not they are planning to stay in cabinet after this evening's events. All other cabinet ministers bar the most junior have briefed that they are staying

Hibbyradge
05-07-2022, 06:40 PM
I think she's saying rishi kept the purse strings tight more austerity, where as boris wants spending and less tax

How is that possible?

Hibernia&Alba
05-07-2022, 06:40 PM
It's clear that he and his acolytes in the cabinet are not going anywhere. The only way he is going is if he's forced out by whatever legal mechanisms are in place.

He's been gone for months now and it's incredible to be think him, Dorries, Patel etc are so out of touch that they think he can survive.

It's down to the 1922 committee to change their rules and remove him which I'm in no doubt they will do.

He's clearly taken lessons from his mate Trump about clinging to power until the bitter end.

Yes, after the recent confidence vote Bozo is technically safe for a year, and is he the type to resign? Not until the very last moment. Either the 1922 Committee changes its rules regarding leadership challenges, or so many ministers resign that even de Pfeffel accepts the jig is up. Either way Bozo does even more damage to the Tories. He isn't going to do the simple thing and go quickly and quietly.

Bristolhibby
05-07-2022, 06:51 PM
Tory Party Vice Chairman just resigned live on Telly. Extraordinary.

https://twitter.com/thenewsdesk/status/1544388951435247625?s=21&t=rXxGK4hSPaiTkJgWXYMqsw

grunt
05-07-2022, 06:56 PM
How is that possible?Same way they paid for Covid - borrowing and increase national debt. Why should Johnson care? He won't be around to have to deal with it.

The Modfather
05-07-2022, 06:57 PM
Kate Andrews
@KateAndrs
For 18 months, Rishi Sunak was basically the only person standing in-between the PM and unmitigated spending. Also one of the (very) few to see inflation coming and prepare the public finances for it. If PM stays, Sunak as the fiscally responsible backstop will be missed

Exhibit a

: Boris just concluded meeting of 80 or so Tory MPs following Sajid and Rishi's resignation. Am told he said:

"I know you’re all avidly in favour of tax cuts and tonight’s events might make that a bit easier to deliver

Putting my selfish cap on in amongst this shameless shambles, wonder if last years IR35 rollout will be repealed. Given contractors were left to fend ourselves with Covid support they’re more likely to come up with a new way to fleece us than help us.

Lendo
05-07-2022, 06:57 PM
Union Jack is supporting Johnson.

Has Douglas Ross gone to ground?

hibsbollah
05-07-2022, 07:01 PM
Is there any way he could force through a general election?

Yes, he could ask the Queen to dissolve parliament directly and force a general election. That’s what the counts were playing at when they voted through the fixed terms act legislation 10? years ago, removing the right of the Commons to oversee when a general election is called. Even in the current climate, it would be dynamite for the Queen to refuse the PMs request, a constitutional crisis even.

neil7908
05-07-2022, 07:01 PM
Is there any way he could force through a general election?

I think the only way this could happen is with a vote of no confidence in the government. And there is no way Tory MPs would vote for that when they can just alter the 1922 committee rules and vote him out that way.

But God knows what other tricks Bojo has up his sleeve.

Kato
05-07-2022, 07:25 PM
'Loyalsists' bumping their gums about Johnsons 'great record with the vaccine and its all actually complete and utter lies.

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neil7908
05-07-2022, 07:41 PM
'Loyalsists' bumping their gums about Johnsons 'great record with the vaccine and its all actually complete and utter lies.

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It's quite funny that we absolutely must' move on' from all the utter **** shows inflicted on us by this government whilst they trot the same BS 'achievements' time and time again.

Keith_M
05-07-2022, 07:44 PM
Lol, it's easily done.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54439758.amp

Nicola Sturgeon has said she "forgot" about a meeting in which she believes she was told about harassment complaints against Alex Salmond.



Keep digging that hole for yourself, you're nearly in Australia

Northernhibee
05-07-2022, 07:45 PM
Brexit hardman Steve Barclay is new health secretary. Desperate.

ronaldo7
05-07-2022, 07:46 PM
Gobby Gullis is away too.

ronaldo7
05-07-2022, 07:49 PM
Has Douglas Ross gone to ground?

Having a beer with Anas. :wink:

hibsbollah
05-07-2022, 07:54 PM
Keep digging that hole for yourself, you're nearly in Australia

Another trade deal bonus :aok:

Keith_M
05-07-2022, 07:58 PM
Another trade deal bonus :aok:


:faf:


Stop it, I'm laughing enough already at today's events

:greengrin

Northernhibee
05-07-2022, 08:03 PM
Jonathan Reilly



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@thejonnyreilly
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Stand off in No10. Boris wants Liz Truss to become Chancellor. But Nadhim Zahawi says he will quit if he isn't moved from Education to No11.

lapsedhibee
05-07-2022, 08:07 PM
Jonathan Reilly



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@thejonnyreilly
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Stand off in No10. Boris wants Liz Truss to become Chancellor. But Nadhim Zahawi says he will quit if he isn't moved from Education to No11.




The one we're all waiting for, Shirley, is how high Nads will be going. Looking like Foreign Secretary (or maybe only Education).

CropleyWasGod
05-07-2022, 08:11 PM
The one we're all waiting for, Shirley, is how high Nads will be going. Looking like Foreign Secretary (or maybe only Education).

She'll need a spelling test for both.

HUTCHYHIBBY
05-07-2022, 08:11 PM
The one we're all waiting for, Shirley, is how high Nads will be going. Looking like Foreign Secretary (or maybe only Education).

Go Nads?!! 😀

lapsedhibee
05-07-2022, 08:15 PM
She'll need a spelling test for both.

I don't think she'll get both, even though she's twice as fawning as the competition.

Stairway 2 7
05-07-2022, 08:33 PM
FergusCraig
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Fair play to Chris Pincher. I’ve had some big nights but never drank so much that it brought down a government

He's here!
05-07-2022, 08:43 PM
Brexit hardman Steve Barclay is new health secretary. Desperate.

It's lunatic stuff. It's all over for Johnson. Be surprised if there's not a leadership contest under wsy before the summer recess.

Northernhibee
05-07-2022, 08:44 PM
It's lunatic stuff. It's all over for Johnson. Be surprised if there's not a leadership contest under wsy before the summer recess.

I'm hoping he takes them down with him and goes to the Queen for a general election. Now someone on here's confirmed he could do that, I could honestly see him being vain enough to do that.

Scorrie
05-07-2022, 08:44 PM
Zahawi is Chancellor. No experience at all.

Hibernia&Alba
05-07-2022, 08:49 PM
Zahawi is Chancellor. No experience at all.

I cannot stand that guy, he's as sleekit as they come. I wonder whether he will put public money aside to warm his horses stables again....

Ozyhibby
05-07-2022, 08:55 PM
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Stairway 2 7
05-07-2022, 09:02 PM
What an awful cabinet that is

Stairway 2 7
05-07-2022, 09:05 PM
christopherhope
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Boris Johnson moving quickly tonight to fill the vacancies in his Cabinet right now. He is going nowhere unless he is forced out his own MPs

Moulin Yarns
05-07-2022, 09:05 PM
It will all end in an armed seige at downing Street.

Moulin Yarns
05-07-2022, 09:09 PM
The number of Britons who want Boris Johnson to resign has reached a new high, at 69%.

The majority of 2019 Conservative voters (54%) also want to see the PM go, the first time this has been higher than the number who want him to stay (33%)

https://t.co/EdF2u3hW1Z https://t.co/uQb2x5bZtB

Killiehibbie
05-07-2022, 09:19 PM
The number of Britons who want Boris Johnson to resign has reached a new high, at 69%.

The majority of 2019 Conservative voters (54%) also want to see the PM go, the first time this has been higher than the number who want him to stay (33%)

https://t.co/EdF2u3hW1Z https://t.co/uQb2x5bZtB
I wonder why as many as 31% wouldn't want him to resign?

Northernhibee
05-07-2022, 09:20 PM
I wonder why as many as 31% wouldn't want him to resign?

They're his offspring.

Smartie
05-07-2022, 09:20 PM
That boy who put up the tweet about Nadine adopting a snow leopard has a very funny Twitter feed tonight.

Apparently Gazza has just rocked up at 10 Downing Street with a cooked chicken and a couple of fishing rods.

Ozyhibby
05-07-2022, 09:24 PM
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/warwickshire-tory-mp-nadhim-zahawi-6335475

New chancellor uses tax havens to protect his wealth from HMRC. Tax is just for us suckers.


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Kato
05-07-2022, 09:28 PM
It will all end in an armed seige at downing Street.Gazza turning up on charlie with a chicken supper, some cans and a fishing rod.

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Kato
05-07-2022, 09:29 PM
That boy who put up the tweet about Nadine adopting a snow leopard has a very funny Twitter feed tonight.

Apparently Gazza has just rocked up at 10 Downing Street with a cooked chicken and a couple of fishing rods.Damn

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Kato
05-07-2022, 09:30 PM
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/warwickshire-tory-mp-nadhim-zahawi-6335475

New chancellor uses tax havens to protect his wealth from HMRC. Tax is just for us suckers.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou would imagine they would read the room a bit. Maybe they have and just think that is normal.

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Hibbyradge
05-07-2022, 09:47 PM
They're his offspring.

:faf:

Very funny.

Ozyhibby
05-07-2022, 09:51 PM
https://twitter.com/alexchalkchelt/status/1544437737771655169?s=21&t=6fMBNvBuY4qZQfjFBaEz8A

Another resignation.


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Bostonhibby
05-07-2022, 10:04 PM
Has Douglas Ross said what his position is today?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWaiting to hear what Murray Ross is doing.

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Kato
05-07-2022, 10:33 PM
What have the Conservatives conserved in this country? In my lifetime all they have done is; sell the nations' infrastrcture off, fractured working class communities and institutions, rendered the middle classes shopa/dopaholics, auctioned the capital city off for roubles, applied trade tariffs to our own businesses, atrophied wages 'cos its fine for bankers to be greedy, radically increase toffs' wealth in proportion to everyone else, renaged on internal investment in favour of the offshore candy mountain, made popularity a more important qualification for office than competency, are in the process of dismantling any kind of reputation for professional decorum our parliament had.

What are they preserving?


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Hibernia&Alba
05-07-2022, 10:35 PM
What have the Conservatives conserved in this country? In my lifetime all they have done is; sell the nations' infrastrcture off, fractured working class communities and institutions, rendered the middle classes shopa/dopaholics, auctioned the capital city off for roubles, applied trade tariffs to our own businesses, atrophied wages 'cos its fine for bankers to be greedy, radically increase toffs' wealth in proportion to everyone else, renaged on internal investment in favour of the offshore candy mountain, made popularity a more important qualification for office than competency, are in the process of dismantling any kind of reputation for professional decorum our parliament had.

What are they preserving?


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Inequality, class distinctions, their own wealth and power.

Kato
05-07-2022, 10:45 PM
Inequality, class distinctions, their own wealth and power.The figures for the first and third things you mention haven't been conserved, all massive increases since I was a nipper.


There was a lot less cap doffing when working class communities were less fractured.

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Berwickhibby
05-07-2022, 10:49 PM
Gazza turning up on charlie with a chicken supper, some cans and a fishing rod.

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He was actually sober when he rocked up in Rothbury, with his chicken, beer and fishing kit in a taxi. Sky News made more of the incident than what occurred.

Kato
05-07-2022, 11:03 PM
He was actually sober when he rocked up in Rothbury, with his chicken, beer and fishing kit in a taxi. Sky News made more of the incident than what occurred.Fair dooz. I will say though that even when he is sober he's rarely sober.

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hibsbollah
05-07-2022, 11:03 PM
What have the Conservatives conserved in this country? In my lifetime all they have done is; sell the nations' infrastrcture off, fractured working class communities and institutions, rendered the middle classes shopa/dopaholics, auctioned the capital city off for roubles, applied trade tariffs to our own businesses, atrophied wages 'cos its fine for bankers to be greedy, radically increase toffs' wealth in proportion to everyone else, renaged on internal investment in favour of the offshore candy mountain, made popularity a more important qualification for office than competency, are in the process of dismantling any kind of reputation for professional decorum our parliament had.

What are they preserving?


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Nicely summarised :agree: That's the broad achievements.

NYHibby
05-07-2022, 11:10 PM
https://twitter.com/alexchalkchelt/status/1544437737771655169?s=21&t=6fMBNvBuY4qZQfjFBaEz8A

Another resignation.


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Sad to see him go. I liked the solicitor general. Much better than the attorney…

Berwickhibby
05-07-2022, 11:15 PM
Fair dooz. I will say though that even when he is sober he's rarely sober.

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He is pretty incoherent at best of times…. Not seen him for a while but he used to take breaks in Bamburgh and get pissed most nights

James310
05-07-2022, 11:44 PM
Looks like Johnson is going to hang on, but a dead man walking. The men in suits will hopefully be making moves behind the scenes.

Northernhibee
06-07-2022, 06:21 AM
https://twitter.com/scottygb/status/1544435322548883456

Nadine. ****ing. Dorries.

Northernhibee
06-07-2022, 06:59 AM
Don’t know who it is as I missed the start of it but some poor minion set out to bat for Bozo on LBC getting torn limb from limb by the usually limp Tom Sawbrick. Really difficult day or two ahead for a lot of ministers.

Edit: it’s Zahawi and he’s falling apart like a cheap suit.

hibsbollah
06-07-2022, 07:15 AM
Don’t know who it is as I missed the start of it but some poor minion set out to bat for Bozo on LBC getting torn limb from limb by the usually limp Tom Sawbrick. Really difficult day or two ahead for a lot of ministers.

Edit: it’s Zahawi and he’s falling apart like a cheap suit.

I've always thought Zahawi is one of the poorest performers on TV, to the point where you almost start to feel sorry for him. But even the Guardian has him down as a 'solid performer' and don't bracket him with the much mocked Dorries or the much loathed Patel. Almost as if he's an acceptable candidate :dunno:

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 08:00 AM
I've always thought Zahawi is one of the poorest performers on TV, to the point where you almost start to feel sorry for him. But even the Guardian has him down as a 'solid performer' and don't bracket him with the much mocked Dorries or the much loathed Patel. Almost as if he's an acceptable candidate :dunno:

He’s about to turn on the spending and tax cutting taps big time. The pound will collapse even further and the inflation we have just now will seem mild in comparison.


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gbhibby
06-07-2022, 08:27 AM
Laura Trott on her bike😁
Zahawi said that politicians make decisions at warp speed so make mistakes. What some people will say so they klingon to power.

DaveF
06-07-2022, 08:34 AM
Children's minister also resigns.

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 08:40 AM
Children's minister also resigns.

11 resignations so far. And still he clings on.


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overdrive
06-07-2022, 08:48 AM
11 resignations so far. And still he clings on.


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I genuinely think he’ll be worse than Trump in terms of clinging on. I could see the military having to step in to remove him as I just can’t seem him going even if he loses an election.

H18S NX
06-07-2022, 09:12 AM
Laura Trott on her bike😁
Zahawi said that politicians make decisions at warp speed so make mistakes. What some people will say so they klingon to power.....Nice one m8:aok:

Bostonhibby
06-07-2022, 09:16 AM
Arguably the most significant resignation yet, unusually I don't think he ever told a lie.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220706/b3e22dbc3358b3049734cbbddffa136e.jpg

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DaveF
06-07-2022, 09:18 AM
11 resignations so far. And still he clings on.


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13 now (Robin Walker the latest)

grunt
06-07-2022, 09:22 AM
30p Lee is also gone.

hibsbollah
06-07-2022, 09:24 AM
He’s about to turn on the spending and tax cutting taps big time. The pound will collapse even further and the inflation we have just now will seem mild in comparison.


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Yes, some will be after high spending. Martin Kettle got this bit spot on

Johnson’s Conservatism is highly unusual, a rag-bag of high spending, government intervention and English nationalism. It has little connection with the low tax, small state, globally liberal Toryism that preceded it and which the party cast aside when it rushed to embrace Johnson as the answer to its problems. If and when Johnson goes, his form of Toryism may go too. But what will come next?

...thats the interesting bit. We might be seeing the break up of the party as we know it, similar to the recalibration that happened in France when the traditional two centre-right centre-left parties imploded and Macron walked into the void.

DaveF
06-07-2022, 10:10 AM
2 more junior ministers and a clutch of backbenchers step back. Can't be long now.

grunt
06-07-2022, 10:19 AM
Tom Hunt, 2019 newbie Tory MP

gbhibby
06-07-2022, 10:21 AM
John Glen resigns must have The Right Stuff.

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 10:21 AM
Running total now up to 15. Surely they change rules tonight and force him out.


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degenerated
06-07-2022, 10:26 AM
Running total now up to 15. Surely they change rules tonight and force him out.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThey are meeting tonight to discuss that, I read. Could be a vote next week

SHODAN
06-07-2022, 10:28 AM
I think he'll call an election.

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 10:28 AM
They are meeting tonight to discuss that, I read. Could be a vote next week

I think if they manage to change the rules tonight then he either resigns or tries for a GE. He knows he can’t win vote next week.
Will be fascinating to see if he goes for a GE. Resigning just doesn’t seem in his character.


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Northernhibee
06-07-2022, 10:31 AM
I think he'll call an election.

He could then run with the rhetoric that it was those pesky backstabbing colleagues of his that lost him the election.

SHODAN
06-07-2022, 10:31 AM
He could then run with the rhetoric that it was those pesky backstabbing colleagues of his that lost him the election.

I assume he can just deselect everyone disloyal to him?

Northernhibee
06-07-2022, 10:34 AM
I assume he can just deselect everyone disloyal to him?

I don't think he'd want to, if a lot of them lost their seats he can choose to stick with the story that it was their disloyalty that cost him an election and he can look the hero. If it's his own people he doesn't have that.

It's what he does.

Scorrie
06-07-2022, 10:35 AM
Javid making a statement in the Commons later. For those of old enough to remember Geoffrey Howe’s speech and how it finished off Thatcher, I wonder if it will be the same impact

grunt
06-07-2022, 10:37 AM
Victoria Atkins resigns as Home Office Minister.

WhileTheChief..
06-07-2022, 10:40 AM
Will be sorry to see Boris go but it’s inevitable now.

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 10:48 AM
Victoria Atkins resigns as Home Office Minister.

16 now. He has to either resign or go for the GE soon. He’s in danger of bleeding out.


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grunt
06-07-2022, 10:50 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW7yikBXwAA5FEp?format=jpg&name=medium

JeMeSouviens
06-07-2022, 10:51 AM
16 now. He has to either resign or go for the GE soon. He’s in danger of bleeding out.


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How can he fight an election with (probably now less than) half a party? :confused:

SHODAN
06-07-2022, 10:54 AM
How can he fight an election with (probably now less than) half a party? :confused:

They'd have to support him or none of them will be in power.

grunt
06-07-2022, 10:55 AM
Simon Fell Tory MP

NYHibby
06-07-2022, 10:55 AM
John Glen resigns must have The Right Stuff.

Boris tried to give Glen a pay rise last year (to be paid as a minister of state, the mid level of ministerial pay). Rather than accept the pay raise, Glen decided to work for free.

grunt
06-07-2022, 11:07 AM
Jo Churchill Tory MP

grunt
06-07-2022, 11:09 AM
Julian Sturdy Tory MP

Smartie
06-07-2022, 11:09 AM
Will be sorry to see Boris go but it’s inevitable now.

I'd have thought it would be only non-Tories who would be sorry to see him go. Maybe the sycophants he keeps closest to him who are unemployable anywhere else.

What specifically about him is it that you'll be sorry to see go? From where I'm looking, apart from the flag waving English nationalism and being an Etonian, he seems to be completely at odds in almost every way with what the Tory party should be?

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 11:12 AM
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Oscar T Grouch
06-07-2022, 11:16 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW7yikBXwAA5FEp?format=jpg&name=medium

That should also have at the bottom, "and you pay to heat them!"

WhileTheChief..
06-07-2022, 11:47 AM
I'd have thought it would be only non-Tories who would be sorry to see him go. Maybe the sycophants he keeps closest to him who are unemployable anywhere else.

What specifically about him is it that you'll be sorry to see go? From where I'm looking, apart from the flag waving English nationalism and being an Etonian, he seems to be completely at odds in almost every way with what the Tory party should be?

I think on the important stuff - Brexit, Covid, Ukraine - he’s been excellent.

I like his vision for the future and his enthusiasm.

The partygate stuff didn’t bother me at all. He could and should have just been honest from the get go and the public would have let him off with it.

That’s why he was so popular at first. He wasn’t like other politicians in that he could say things we didn’t like to hear but would accept them from him.

As for now, the knives are well and truly out and I can’t see a way he stays in office.

Total cluster xxxx all round.

WeeRussell
06-07-2022, 11:48 AM
I think on the important stuff - Brexit, Covid, Ukraine - he’s been excellent.

I like his vision for the future and his enthusiasm.

The partygate stuff didn’t bother me at all. He could and should have just been honest from the get go and the public would have let him off with it.

That’s why he was so popular at first. He wasn’t like other politicians in that he could say things we didn’t like to hear but would accept them from him.

As for now, the knives are well and truly out and I can’t see a way he stays in office.

Total cluster xxxx all round.

Respectfully, I could barely disagree more. Especially the bit about how he “could have been honest”.

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 11:52 AM
Housing minister now gone. Think that’s just a tradition to change that post every couple of months to be fair.
18 now the total.


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matty_f
06-07-2022, 11:55 AM
I think on the important stuff - Brexit, Covid, Ukraine - he’s been excellent.

I like his vision for the future and his enthusiasm.

The partygate stuff didn’t bother me at all. He could and should have just been honest from the get go and the public would have let him off with it.

That’s why he was so popular at first. He wasn’t like other politicians in that he could say things we didn’t like to hear but would accept them from him.

As for now, the knives are well and truly out and I can’t see a way he stays in office.

Total cluster xxxx all round.

He’s caused chaos with Brexit!!

Smartie
06-07-2022, 12:06 PM
I think on the important stuff - Brexit, Covid, Ukraine - he’s been excellent.

I like his vision for the future and his enthusiasm.

The partygate stuff didn’t bother me at all. He could and should have just been honest from the get go and the public would have let him off with it.

That’s why he was so popular at first. He wasn’t like other politicians in that he could say things we didn’t like to hear but would accept them from him.

As for now, the knives are well and truly out and I can’t see a way he stays in office.

Total cluster xxxx all round.

Brexit - without wishing to get into a debate on it, I don't think he's done very well on that front at all. My thoughts on the matter would pretty much be the same as those aired by Michael Heseltine last night.

Covid - I thought he was an absolute catastrophe. The wrong man to be leading us through such an important time and I think any of the Prime Ministers we've had during my lifetime would have dealt with it much better than he did.

Ukraine - I think he's had a decent war, after a poor start. He kind of had to let his pals get their affairs in order though, given how compromised he was by Russian money. Not sure how much I can really think of him happily taking all that cash and then trusting him to maintain his position long term though.

As a personality - I quite like an affable, amiable, blustering character and don't really have a problem with the way he comes across. It needs to be backed up by an element of competence though, even if it's just surrounding yourself with folk who know what they're doing.

Partygate - he just didn't read the room, but that's not something I think he has enough awareness to do. Had he been getting enough right elsewhere I think there might be room for forgiveness on partygate but he hasn't. I also think his tendency to use then discard dangerous people like Dominic Cummings has helped him make formidable enemies, this ensuring that partygate was blown up into something that it might not have under other circumstances.


I think there's a naivety about him that's just mind-boggling. This is a situation entirely of his own making and I'm finding it hard to find any sort of sympathy for him.


He won't be any sort of a loss for anyone if he goes, other than his political opponents and the weirdos he's surrounded himself with.

Whilst I'm not a Tory myself, I retain a "relatively" open mind regarding politics that aren't necessarily my own. The idea of a centre right government who act with a bit of integrity isn't something that horrifies me as much as it horrifies most on here. To get one of those from where we are now would be a colossal lurch in the right direction.

Hopefully we might get one of those. And then we can work on getting something better than that.

JeMeSouviens
06-07-2022, 12:07 PM
I think on the important stuff - Brexit, Covid, Ukraine - he’s been excellent.

I like his vision for the future and his enthusiasm.

The partygate stuff didn’t bother me at all. He could and should have just been honest from the get go and the public would have let him off with it.

That’s why he was so popular at first. He wasn’t like other politicians in that he could say things we didn’t like to hear but would accept them from him.

As for now, the knives are well and truly out and I can’t see a way he stays in office.

Total cluster xxxx all round.

I'll give you "enthusiasm" ... he's an enthusiastically ****** useless, venal, corrupt, lying *****.

Northernhibee
06-07-2022, 12:11 PM
I think on the important stuff - Brexit, Covid,.


Northern Ireland protocol, economy tanking, international reputation in tatters.

180k plus dead.

What would he have to do for you to consider him a failure?

Just_Jimmy
06-07-2022, 12:15 PM
I think on the important stuff - Brexit, Covid, Ukraine - he’s been excellent.

I like his vision for the future and his enthusiasm.

The partygate stuff didn’t bother me at all. He could and should have just been honest from the get go and the public would have let him off with it.

That’s why he was so popular at first. He wasn’t like other politicians in that he could say things we didn’t like to hear but would accept them from him.

As for now, the knives are well and truly out and I can’t see a way he stays in office.

Total cluster xxxx all round.He's a clown. He's a bumbling idiot. He cannot form a sentence without stuttering. He lies at every turn. He takes everyone for fools. He couldn't give a toss about you or me. He's not a man of the people, he's an elitist moron who's only ever got anywhere due to the old boys club.

He's everything that's wrong with this country.

I do not now, nor have I ever, understood how ANYONE thinks he is fit to be prime minister. I believe it stands for something as an office.

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Northernhibee
06-07-2022, 12:20 PM
I'll give you "enthusiasm" ... he's an enthusiastically ****** useless, venal, corrupt, lying *****.

On COVID he should be up in court facing trial of death by gross incompetence.

Jones28
06-07-2022, 12:20 PM
I think on the important stuff - Brexit, Covid, Ukraine - he’s been excellent.

I like his vision for the future and his enthusiasm.

The partygate stuff didn’t bother me at all. He could and should have just been honest from the get go and the public would have let him off with it.

That’s why he was so popular at first. He wasn’t like other politicians in that he could say things we didn’t like to hear but would accept them from him.

As for now, the knives are well and truly out and I can’t see a way he stays in office.

Total cluster xxxx all round.


He lied about it but if he hadn't lied about breaking the rules the public would have let him off? Even if he broke the rules?

I don't think so.

WhileTheChief..
06-07-2022, 12:27 PM
Whilst I'm not a Tory myself, I retain a "relatively" open mind regarding politics that aren't necessarily my own. The idea of a centre right government who act with a bit of integrity isn't something that horrifies me as much as it horrifies most on here. To get one of those from where we are now would be a colossal lurch in the right direction.

Hopefully we might get one of those. And then we can work on getting something better than that.

All fair points, I just removed some of it to save repeating your whole post.

I think it’s been a wasted opportunity. He had such a large majority with the country overwhelmingly behind him to get things done.

He just totally screwed it up though. I don’t buy into the whole ‘he doesn’t care about anyone’ line.

I’ll happily accept that every single MP in Westminster wants what’s best for the e country. They just have different views on how to get there.

All the Eaton toff bogeyman stuff is just toys out the pram.

JeMeSouviens
06-07-2022, 12:32 PM
He lied about it but if he hadn't lied about breaking the rules the public would have let him off? Even if he broke the rules?

I don't think so.

He didn't just break the rules. He wrote the rules for everyone else but considered (and in fact, by all accounts still considers) himself a special case who should be exempt from them.

grunt
06-07-2022, 12:36 PM
I think on the important stuff - Brexit, Covid, Ukraine - he’s been excellent ... The partygate stuff didn’t bother me at all. :confused:

I can't even begin to think how to respond to this, other than to say I'm flabbergasted.

grunt
06-07-2022, 12:39 PM
I think it’s been a wasted opportunity. He had such a large majority with the country overwhelmingly behind him to get things done.
He got in on 43% of the votes, and just 25% of the votes in Scotland. Hardly "overwhelmingly behind him".

Stairway 2 7
06-07-2022, 12:41 PM
😆

@BNONews
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06-07-2022, 12:42 PM
Mikey Smith
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Well-placed source convinced Boris Johnson won’t quit, even if the 22 change the rules, and he loses a VONC.

Instead, he’ll claim he has a mandate from 14m voters, and will threaten to force an election - but not before deselecting everyone who voted against him

grunt
06-07-2022, 12:42 PM
I’ll happily accept that every single MP in Westminster wants what’s best for the e country. They just have different views on how to get there.

Johnson famously wrote two articles before the Brexit vote, supporting diametrically opposite views. He chose the one that gave him the best chance of personal progression. So how does this demonstrate wanting "what's best for the country"?

degenerated
06-07-2022, 12:42 PM
He’s caused chaos with Brexit!!He's caused chaos with everything

Northernhibee
06-07-2022, 12:44 PM
😆

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BREAKING: 3 more members of Boris Johnson’s government have resigned, taking number of resignations to 21

This is fun.

WhileTheChief..
06-07-2022, 12:47 PM
He got in on 43% of the votes, and just 25% of the votes in Scotland. Hardly "overwhelmingly behind him".


They had an 80+ seat majority in the commons. That’s a convincing win.

Northernhibee
06-07-2022, 12:48 PM
I have to say that I thought that Starmer got it absolutely spot on, bang on the button at PMQs. Brilliant from him.

Scorrie
06-07-2022, 12:51 PM
Two more PPSs have gone- one in Environment and one in Treasury

Just_Jimmy
06-07-2022, 12:53 PM
I have to say that I thought that Starmer got it absolutely spot on, bang on the button at PMQs. Brilliant from him.Because he had him on trial. He's a superb barrister. He's a crap politician.

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Northernhibee
06-07-2022, 12:53 PM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/7vAhjNofTClKQInwCk/giphy.gif

Boris looking at the live amount of MPs he's still got on side

grunt
06-07-2022, 01:03 PM
They had an 80+ seat majority in the commons. That’s a convincing win.But that's not what you said. You said he had "the country overwhelmingly behind him". As you well know, the FPTP system does not reflect the popular vote.

Aldo
06-07-2022, 01:08 PM
MP Gary Sambrook sums it up perfectly for me

'The prime minister... always tries to blame other people for mistakes... nothing left for him to do other than to take responsibility and resign.'


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WhileTheChief..
06-07-2022, 01:13 PM
But that's not what you said. You said he had "the country overwhelmingly behind him". As you well know, the FPTP system does not reflect the popular vote.

Point still stands.

He was hugely popular when first elected. He still is to a certain degree, with the public.

It’s why Labour and you guys are so pleased to see the back of him. He was likely to lead the Conservatives to another landslide and Starmer wouldn’t stand a chance against him.

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 01:14 PM
https://twitter.com/stvnews/status/1544669325369511937?s=21&t=dwOyOocABupAn8gnMMUxWQ

Douglas Ross has spoken and he should definitely go now. Maybe.
Can’t help but think this is a betrayal of the people of Ukraine by Ross given he thinks Johnson is the only person who can help them?


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BroxburnHibee
06-07-2022, 01:15 PM
His Russian paymasters are clearly forcing him to stay in the job no matter what.

They must have some amount of dirt on him.

Northernhibee
06-07-2022, 01:18 PM
His Russian paymasters are clearly forcing him to stay in the job no matter what.

They must have some amount of dirt on him.

It's incredible. I'd like to say that I was beginning to feel sorry for him, but that would be a lie. I hope it's as distressing and humiliating for him as it's possible for it to be.

JeMeSouviens
06-07-2022, 01:20 PM
Point still stands.

He was hugely popular when first elected. He still is to a certain degree, with the public.

It’s why Labour and you guys are so pleased to see the back of him. He was likely to lead the Conservatives to another landslide and Starmer wouldn’t stand a chance against him.

Actually, precisely the opposite. He's probably the one Tory Starmer would be likely to beat now.

Both Indy and getting rid of the Tories would be much better served by keeping Johnson on life support but I personally can't stand him being there any longer.

grunt
06-07-2022, 01:22 PM
Point still stands. No it doesn't.


He was hugely popular when first elected. He still is to a certain degree, with the public.In Scotland? 83% dissatisfied with him.

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/satisfaction-with-boris-johnson-scotland-may-2022.jpg


It’s why Labour and you guys are so pleased to see the back of him. He was likely to lead the Conservatives to another landslide and Starmer wouldn’t stand a chance against him.Yes, that's why we want him gone. LOL. Nothing to do with his completely disastrous handling of Brexit, COVID and the economy.

ElginHibbie
06-07-2022, 01:22 PM
Point still stands.

He was hugely popular when first elected. He still is to a certain degree, with the public.

It’s why Labour and you guys are so pleased to see the back of him. He was likely to lead the Conservatives to another landslide and Starmer wouldn’t stand a chance against him.

Recent projections had the Tories losing over 100 seats, no way was Boris going to be able to turn that around into a landslide

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 01:25 PM
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OldEast
06-07-2022, 01:30 PM
:confused:

I can't even begin to think how to respond to this, other than to say I'm flabbergasted.

Yes truly mind boggling the support he still has amongst many. I can't even begin to respond to this one 🥴

grunt
06-07-2022, 01:30 PM
Five in one go

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW_JCoSWAAEwrg_?format=jpg&name=medium

WhileTheChief..
06-07-2022, 01:31 PM
Actually, precisely the opposite. He's probably the one Tory Starmer would be likely to beat now.

Both Indy and getting rid of the Tories would be much better served by keeping Johnson on life support but I personally can't stand him being there any longer.

Nah.

Labour know they can’t beat Boris.

Check the glee on their faces just now, they can’t believe their luck.

They don’t stand a chance against him and are 100% reliant on him being forced out.

I know I can’t prove this, but I still think he is popular through the country. It’s only the media that’s really turned against him.

It’s not like any of you guys ever liked him so it doesn’t really matter what he does.

If there was a general election tomorrow, with Boris at the helm, he’d still be PM on Thursday.

SHODAN
06-07-2022, 01:31 PM
Wonder if he's thinking of dissolving parliament soon.

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 01:37 PM
Wonder if he's thinking of dissolving parliament soon.

Dissolve it forever?[emoji1696][emoji1696][emoji1696]


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OldEast
06-07-2022, 01:37 PM
Will be sorry to see Boris go but it’s inevitable now.

I hope the fat lying prick stays. He's the best weapon the independence movement have.

grunt
06-07-2022, 01:39 PM
I know I can’t prove this, but I still think he is popular through the country. It’s only the media that’s really turned against him.
There's a reason you can't prove it ...

Popularity rating -48.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/boris-johnson-approval-rating

OldEast
06-07-2022, 01:39 PM
Nah.

Labour know they can’t beat Boris.

Check the glee on their faces just now, they can’t believe their luck.

They don’t stand a chance against him and are 100% reliant on him being forced out.

I know I can’t prove this, but I still think he is popular through the country. It’s only the media that’s really turned against him.

It’s not like any of you guys ever liked him so it doesn’t really matter what he does.

If there was a general election tomorrow, with Boris at the helm, he’d still be PM on Thursday.

This couldn't be further from the truth. The Conservative party have finally realised he's now a liability. They only win the next GE without him.

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 01:40 PM
I hope the fat lying prick stays. He's the best weapon the independence movement have.

I always think that is overstated anyway but although I want Indy I don’t wish ill on the country just to achieve it. He needs to go.
The Indy case is strong enough on its own, no matter who is in charge in London.


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grunt
06-07-2022, 01:40 PM
Andrew Bowie comes out against Johnson.

Smartie
06-07-2022, 01:42 PM
Nah.

Labour know they can’t beat Boris.

Check the glee on their faces just now, they can’t believe their luck.

They don’t stand a chance against him and are 100% reliant on him being forced out.

I know I can’t prove this, but I still think he is popular through the country. It’s only the media that’s really turned against him.

It’s not like any of you guys ever liked him so it doesn’t really matter what he does.

If there was a general election tomorrow, with Boris at the helm, he’d still be PM on Thursday.

Can't agree with any of this, really.

He got elected on the back of the Brexit ticket and that led to him having a handsome majority.

The circumstances leading into the next election would be VERY different.

Even taking certain circumstances into account that weren't necessarily his fault - covid, then what looks like being a subsequent global financial crisis will have meant a very difficult few years for people whilst he has been in charge.

I think his departure would be a godsend to the Tories, although it might be worth holding onto him to soak up a bit of grief whilst we go through the next spell of financial turmoil before appointing someone new in time for a "fresh approach" to the next election.

He's toxic I'm afraid, and he's being saved to an extent by the opposition being as pish as they are.

Stairway 2 7
06-07-2022, 01:45 PM
I always think that is overstated anyway but although I want Indy I don’t wish ill on the country just to achieve it. He needs to go.
The Indy case is strong enough on its own, no matter who is in charge in London.


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Definitely disagree. If there is a GE before the referendum I think a decent number of Scottish Labour voters would give them a chance in power. If another tory victory after how bad they have been, they could say enough of this.

Boris is best chance of a Labour and Indy win. But you'd be morally bankrupt if you wanted the idiot in charge for they reasons.

Stairway 2 7
06-07-2022, 01:45 PM
johnestevens
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Michael Gove has told Boris Johnson he must go

Housing Secretary delivered message to PM this morning

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 01:48 PM
Definitely disagree. If there is a GE before the referendum I think a decent number of Scottish Labour voters would give them a chance in power. If another tory victory after how bad they have been, they could say enough of this.

Boris is best chance of a Labour and Indy win. But you'd be morally bankrupt if you wanted the idiot in charge for they reasons.

There hasn’t been much evidence of Scottish voters looking towards Labour?


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Stairway 2 7
06-07-2022, 01:48 PM
@lara_spirit
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Senior Tory MPs are saying that Chris Heaton-Harris, the chief whip, is telling PM the game is up

Stairway 2 7
06-07-2022, 01:49 PM
There hasn’t been much evidence of Scottish voters looking towards Labour?


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There's still a sizable amount of Scottish Labour voters, particularly in older age groups. Probably the group that needs won over the most this time

WhileTheChief..
06-07-2022, 01:50 PM
Can't agree with any of this, really.

He got elected on the back of the Brexit ticket and that led to him having a handsome majority.

The circumstances leading into the next election would be VERY different.

Even taking certain circumstances into account that weren't necessarily his fault - covid, then what looks like being a subsequent global financial crisis will have meant a very difficult few years for people whilst he has been in charge.

I think his departure would be a godsend to the Tories, although it might be worth holding onto him to soak up a bit of grief whilst we go through the next spell of financial turmoil before appointing someone new in time for a "fresh approach" to the next election.

He's toxic I'm afraid, and he's being saved to an extent by the opposition being as pish as they are.

The cost of living /inflation thing is an issue for every government in the world.

Not sure we can lay the blame on Boris or the Uk gov for it and I dread to think what Labours plans would be. They’re useless with money in the good times, let alone the bad!!

Stairway 2 7
06-07-2022, 01:51 PM
The cost of living /inflation thing is an issue for every government in the world.

Not sure we can lay the blame on Boris or the Uk gov for it and I dread to think what Labours plans would be. They’re useless with money in the good times, let alone the bad!!

True inflation would be huge anyway, but brexit has added a % point

grunt
06-07-2022, 01:57 PM
The cost of living /inflation thing is an issue for every government in the world. But worse for us because of Brexit.


Not sure we can lay the blame on Boris or the Uk gov for it and I dread to think what Labours plans would be. They’re useless with money in the good times, let alone the bad!!Labour didn't spend £10billion on buying useless PPE from their friends, or give £4billion away in fraudulent furlough claims. Nor did they oversee a Brexit which resulted in the UK suffering an annual drop of £100billion in GDP.

grunt
06-07-2022, 01:58 PM
Mark Steel summarising all those Tory MP's resignation letters


It has been an honour and a privilege, to work for and alongside the person I now accept has all along been a lying, cheating reckless sociopath. It is with sadness I can no longer work with this madman.

Stairway 2 7
06-07-2022, 02:02 PM
But worse for us because of Brexit.

Labour didn't spend £10billion on buying useless PPE from their friends, or give £4billion away in fraudulent furlough claims. Nor did they oversee a Brexit which resulted in the UK suffering an annual drop of £100billion in GDP.

Stunning that some people still won't say brexit was bad, never mind one of the worst self inflicted moves a nation has done to itself.

Gdp will be hammered for decades, inflation higher than it would be, pound weaker which increases fuel prices, which increases inflation and repeat..

matty_f
06-07-2022, 02:03 PM
Stunning that some people still won't say brexit was bad, never mind one of the worst self inflicted moves a nation has done to itself.

Gdp will be hammered for decades, inflation higher than it would be, pound weaker which increases fuel prices, which increases inflation and repeat..
It’s nothing more than gaslighting to say otherwise.

Stairway 2 7
06-07-2022, 02:04 PM
Mark Steel summarising all those Tory MP's resignation letters

They are rats leaving a sinking ship, why has it taken until now for them to do something. Tory MPs don't have a conscience, just self interest

Northernhibee
06-07-2022, 02:07 PM
Resignations left, right and centre. The point of no return has almost certainly been reached.

SHODAN
06-07-2022, 02:07 PM
They are rats leaving a sinking ship, why has it taken until now for them to do something. Tory MPs don't have a conscience, just self interest

The primary function of the Conversative Party is to maintain the rule of the Conservative Party and, by extension, the political and upper class they support (i.e. socialism for the rich). Johnson is prioritising himself and refusing to allow this to happen which is why they're all losing their ****.

cabbageandribs1875
06-07-2022, 02:11 PM
monica lewens...i mean Princess nut nut for PM please, with Nodding Dug Dorries deputy

Moulin Yarns
06-07-2022, 02:16 PM
Point still stands.

He was hugely popular when first elected. He still is to a certain degree, with the public.

It’s why Labour and you guys are so pleased to see the back of him. He was likely to lead the Conservatives to another landslide and Starmer wouldn’t stand a chance against him.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/boris-johnson-approval-rating

You're absolutely wrong on how popular your leader is with the public!!!

cabbageandribs1875
06-07-2022, 02:17 PM
https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/292281425_1420208158461316_7227878029289195551_n.j pg?stp=cp1_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=bXx8xMay81oAX_JofO7&tn=vIvSFNl06GFFe0Qb&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT-43ek1kHZsdX0poa-3_wmNAUgjJruhsMbsl8A9bMzmTA&oe=62CA00C1

Sylar
06-07-2022, 02:18 PM
The ONLY people who can honestly still be supporting Boris must be Independence supporters who see the increasing division and blunder this idiot is causing and want it to continue.

Nobody who understands politics at any level can say with any honesty that they think he's doing, or has done, a good job.

Seeing people suggesting he's 'done well on the big things' is equal parts hilarious and sickening. He's a criminal who is responsible for the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of people, who has shattered the economy with his Brexit activities (or lackthereof) and who has made us a laughing stock and paraiah nation with the clear intent to violate international law.

Surely there's a remote island somewhere where Boris and his supporters can be shipped off to while the rest of us try and pick up the ****ing pieces.

cabbageandribs1875
06-07-2022, 02:19 PM
parliamentary private secretary Duncan Baker has resigned from the government, becoming the 28th MP to do so since yesterday

WhileTheChief..
06-07-2022, 02:21 PM
It’s nothing more than gaslighting to say otherwise.

How?

Do a google search on gaslighting. I’ve just done it and in no way can you attribute that to me.

To say otherwise is hugely insulting and totally uncalled for.

Made it easy for you….

Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which the abuser attempts to sow self-doubt and confusion in their victim's mind. Typically, gaslighters are seeking to gain power and control over the other person, by distorting reality and forcing them to question their own judgment and intuition

WhileTheChief..
06-07-2022, 02:22 PM
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/boris-johnson-approval-rating

You're absolutely wrong on how popular your leader is with the public!!!

My leader??? Bugger off.

Once again you’ve confused me someone else. I’m not a member of any political party.

cabbageandribs1875
06-07-2022, 02:23 PM
Surely there's a remote island somewhere where Boris and his supporters can be shipped off to while the rest of us try and pick up the ****ing pieces.



preferably without internet access, only wind-up merchants and the deranged think he's the bee's knees

grunt
06-07-2022, 02:23 PM
Douglas Ross now says Johnson should go. I've lost count of how many times he has changed his mind about Johnson's leadership since January. And yet we're not allowed to have another referendum because we've possibly changed our minds?

cabbageandribs1875
06-07-2022, 02:25 PM
johnson struggling for the answer to how many ounces in the pound

WhileTheChief..
06-07-2022, 02:25 PM
preferably without internet access, only wind-up merchants and the deranged think he's the bee's knees


Don’t like what you’re reading? Might as well start burning books!!

WeeRussell
06-07-2022, 02:26 PM
Nah.

Labour know they can’t beat Boris.

Check the glee on their faces just now, they can’t believe their luck.

They don’t stand a chance against him and are 100% reliant on him being forced out.

I know I can’t prove this, but I still think he is popular through the country. It’s only the media that’s really turned against him.

It’s not like any of you guys ever liked him so it doesn’t really matter what he does.

If there was a general election tomorrow, with Boris at the helm, he’d still be PM on Thursday.

Are you talking about Boris Becker or Boris Johnson?

You can’t seriously be arguing that after all that’s gone on over the past few years that it’s only the media that aren’t best pleased with Boris. The public are in actual outrage at him and rightly so.

If his corrupt tory chums starting to turn on him (on top of everything else) doesn’t suggest anything negative to you in that regard then I think you’re right… it doesn’t really matter what he does.

I kind of hope you’re at the wind-up though.

cabbageandribs1875
06-07-2022, 02:26 PM
Don’t like what you’re reading? Might as well start burning books!!

i beg your pardon ?

grunt
06-07-2022, 02:26 PM
My leader??? Bugger off. Once again you’ve confused me someone else. I’m not a member of any political party.


I think on the important stuff - Brexit, Covid, Ukraine - he’s been excellent.

I like his vision for the future and his enthusiasm ... He wasn’t like other politicians in that he could say things we didn’t like to hear but would accept them from him.
Right.

Moulin Yarns
06-07-2022, 02:26 PM
The cost of living /inflation thing is an issue for every government in the world.

Not sure we can lay the blame on Boris or the Uk gov for it and I dread to think what Labours plans would be. They’re useless with money in the good times, let alone the bad!!

Global inflation rates? UK is 9.1% Switzerland is 3.4% even India is lower than the UK.

WeeRussell
06-07-2022, 02:29 PM
i beg your pardon ?

If you don’t like the ridiculous things he’s posting about Boris Johnson then you might as well burn all the stuff you do enjoy from writers you respect.

Something like that.

Moulin Yarns
06-07-2022, 02:30 PM
My leader??? Bugger off.

Once again you’ve confused me someone else. I’m not a member of any political party.

You are certainly giving him all your support though? 🤔

WhileTheChief..
06-07-2022, 02:31 PM
Global inflation rates? UK is 9.1% Switzerland is 3.4% even India is lower than the UK.

Yeah, We can all google “which country has lowest inflation” just to try and make a point.

If you’re an economist and want to put some meat on the bones and explain the intricacies of the Indian economy, go right ahead.

Otherwise, what point are you making?

WeeRussell
06-07-2022, 02:33 PM
Yeah, We can all google “which country has lowest inflation” just to try and make a point.

If you’re an economist and want to put some meat on the bones and explain the intricacies of the Indian economy, go right ahead.

Otherwise, what point are you making?

I thought you made the point about inflation.. what’s wrong with someone offering stats?

WhileTheChief..
06-07-2022, 02:35 PM
You are certainly giving him all your support though? 🤔

Not really.

just chewing the fat with a few posters.

Moulin Yarns
06-07-2022, 02:37 PM
I thought you made the point about inflation.. what’s wrong with someone offering stats?

Except, Brexit, covid and the war with Ukraine (copyright nadine dorries 😂)

Remember all the good things 🤔😜

Moulin Yarns
06-07-2022, 02:37 PM
Not really.

just chewing the fat with a few posters.

Aye, whatever 😱


At least you are now admitting to trolling.

cabbageandribs1875
06-07-2022, 02:40 PM
Parliamentary private secretary Mark Logan resigns = 30

WhileTheChief..
06-07-2022, 02:40 PM
I thought you made the point about inflation.. what’s wrong with someone offering stats?

Was brought up by someone else.

Why bring India or the Swiss into it? I’ve not looked but I’d guess it’s cause they were the countries he could point to to try and make the uk look worse than it is?

Maybe we should strive to be like Rwanda at 2% or Chad at 0.5%?

Jack
06-07-2022, 02:40 PM
There's a spare bridge over the Firth of Forth.

If anyone on here would like to buy it I'll give them a good price!

neil7908
06-07-2022, 02:40 PM
Nah.

Labour know they can’t beat Boris.

Check the glee on their faces just now, they can’t believe their luck.

They don’t stand a chance against him and are 100% reliant on him being forced out.

I know I can’t prove this, but I still think he is popular through the country. It’s only the media that’s really turned against him.

It’s not like any of you guys ever liked him so it doesn’t really matter what he does.

If there was a general election tomorrow, with Boris at the helm, he’d still be PM on Thursday.

You can't possibly believe this can you?

You can't find any evidence to back up that's he's popular but just know it's true - you realise thats mental right?

Jones28
06-07-2022, 02:42 PM
Was brought up by someone else.

Why bring India or the Swiss into it? I’ve not looked but I’d guess it’s cause they were the countries he could point to to try and make the uk look worse than it is?

Maybe we should strive to be like Rwanda at 2% or Chad at 0.5%?


As far is inflations concerned that would be nice.

Jones28
06-07-2022, 02:43 PM
You can't possibly believe this can you?

You can't find any evidence to back up that's he's popular but just know it's true - you realise thats mental right?

Gaslit nation.

cabbageandribs1875
06-07-2022, 02:43 PM
Flip-Flop Dross believes the PM should go





for today anyway

Hibbyradge
06-07-2022, 02:44 PM
31 gone now.

Jones28
06-07-2022, 02:45 PM
Flip-Flop Dross believes the PM should go





for today anyway

He flips like a dying mackeral.

Moulin Yarns
06-07-2022, 02:46 PM
Was brought up by someone else.

Why bring India or the Swiss into it? I’ve not looked but I’d guess it’s cause they were the countries he could point to to try and make the uk look worse than it is?

Maybe we should strive to be like Rwanda at 2% or Chad at 0.5%?

Smartie mentioned it, you replied that every government in the world has high inflation, I picked Switzerland because it's European and India because it is a former colony. I could have said China or Australia. But, the fact remains that the UK is trailing the majority of countries, with a few exceptions like Venezuela!

Stairway 2 7
06-07-2022, 02:47 PM
Global inflation rates? UK is 9.1% Switzerland is 3.4% even India is lower than the UK.

Eu average is 8.6 , US 8.5. So we are worse ,brexit probably cost us a % which is no small thing.

Jones28
06-07-2022, 02:48 PM
Smartie mentioned it, you replied that every government in the world has high inflation, I picked Switzerland because it's European and India because it is a former colony. I could have said China or Australia. But, the fact remains that the UK is trailing the majority of countries, with a few exceptions like Venezuela!

Remember, Boris nd Co did away with international comparisons during Covid when we did away with graphs showing how poorly we were doing.

Until he goes International comparisons are irrelevant.

Northernhibee
06-07-2022, 02:49 PM
Is there any way Boris Johnson survives this, even for a few weeks?

Stairway 2 7
06-07-2022, 02:50 PM
@Steven_Swinford
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Cabinet ministers privately saying it's all over but that they're staying in government out of a sense of duty

Duty not to PM, but to ensuring that there is still a government left to actually run the country

They think it will be done in the next 24-48 hours

Jones28
06-07-2022, 02:50 PM
Is there any way Boris Johnson survives this, even for a few weeks?

He's so brazen that he will last it out until he is forced out.

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 02:52 PM
There's a spare bridge over the Firth of Forth.

If anyone on here would like to buy it I'll give them a good price!

Bit of a fixer upper.[emoji106]


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Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 02:53 PM
Is there any way Boris Johnson survives this, even for a few weeks?

No. I think he’ll be gone by the time we go to bed tonight.


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Oscar T Grouch
06-07-2022, 02:54 PM
I remember reading Bojo the clown has more MPs on the payroll than any other PM before, hence his win in the last VONC. Something like 242 of them are loyal and being paid more than their basic salary, so 31 isn't a huge number. This will get messy, the idiot will need to be dragged out of No10 with his nails scraping the floors as he goes. it is always fun to watch tories in total meltdown though :greengrin

grunt
06-07-2022, 02:55 PM
Not really.

just chewing the fat with a few posters.Are you trolling?

Stairway 2 7
06-07-2022, 02:56 PM
andrew_lilico
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If Gove telling him isn't enough, & the Chief Whip telling him isn't enough, Truss should tell him. If that isn't enough, it'll be over to the 1922 & he'll be humiliated in the vote tomorrow

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 02:56 PM
Watching Johnson at this committee is painful. He flicks through his papers as if he is looking for some sort of detail but he’s not even reading. He’s just fidgeting because he is totally lost.


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Moulin Yarns
06-07-2022, 02:57 PM
Are you trolling?

Yep

Jack
06-07-2022, 03:01 PM
4pm. Still time for a few more.

1. Sajid Javid, Secretary of State for Health and Social Care

2. Rishi Sunak, Chancellor of the Exchequer

3. Andrew Murrison, trade envoy to Morocco

4. Bim Afolami, Conservative Party vice-chairman

5. Saqib Bhatti, parliamentary private secretary at the Department of Health and Social Care

6. Jonathan Gullis, parliamentary private secretary at the Northern Ireland Office

7. Nicola Richards, parliamentary private secretary at the Department for Transport

8. Virginia Crosbie, parliamentary private secretary at the Welsh Office

9. Theo Clarke, trade envoy to Kenya

10. Alex Chalk, Solicitor General

11. Laura Trott, parliamentary private secretary at the Department for Transport

12. Will Quince, parliamentary under-secretary of state for children and families at the Department for Education

13. Robin Walker, minister of state for school standards at the Department for Education

14. Felicity Buchan, parliamentary private secretary at the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy

15. John Glen, minister of state at the Treasury

16. Victoria Atkins, minister of state for prisons and probation at the Ministry of Justice

17. Jo Churchill, parliamentary under-secretary of state at the Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs

18. Stuart Andrew, minister of state for housing at the Department for Levelling Up, Housing & Communities

19. Selaine Saxby, parliamentary private secretary at the Treasury

20. Claire Coutinho, parliamentary private secretary at the Treasury

21. David Johnston, parliamentary private secretary at the Department for Education

22. Kemi Badenoch, minister of state at the Department for Levelling Up, Housing & Communities

23. Julia Lopez, minister of state at the Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport

24. Lee Rowley, parliamentary under-secretary of state at the Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy

25. Neil O’Brien, parliamentary under-secretary of state at the Department for Levelling Up, Housing & Communities

26. Alex Burghart, parliamentary under-secretary of state at the Department for Education

27. Mims Davies, parliamentary under-secretary of state at the Department for Work & Pensions

JeMeSouviens
06-07-2022, 03:07 PM
Put a dodgy barnet on Pacino and this will be tonight in Downing St ...

https://stack.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Al-Pacino-Scarface.jpg

Hibrandenburg
06-07-2022, 03:08 PM
Nah.

Labour know they can’t beat Boris.

Check the glee on their faces just now, they can’t believe their luck.

They don’t stand a chance against him and are 100% reliant on him being forced out.

I know I can’t prove this, but I still think he is popular through the country. It’s only the media that’s really turned against him.

It’s not like any of you guys ever liked him so it doesn’t really matter what he does.

If there was a general election tomorrow, with Boris at the helm, he’d still be PM on Thursday.

:faf: You're a troll having a fantastic time watching people on here taking your bate.

Ozyhibby
06-07-2022, 03:08 PM
Running total is now at 31 resignations.


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cabbageandribs1875
06-07-2022, 03:13 PM
Running total is now at 31 resignations.


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make that 32

cabbageandribs1875
06-07-2022, 03:15 PM
truth is very important to Johnson :faf::faf: