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Chorley Hibee
30-04-2021, 07:34 AM
English Tory voters deserve all they get! Very close behind, maybe even more so, are Scottish voters who vote to preserve the union.

I agree, and it's depressing to see the polls on independence heading in favour of the union once again.

If it doesn't happen now then I doubt it ever will, certainly not in my lifetime.

Bangkok Hibby
30-04-2021, 07:41 AM
I agree, and it's depressing to see the polls on independence heading in favour of the union once again.

If it doesn't happen now then I doubt it ever will, certainly not in my lifetime.

Yes I feel the same. Our chance was 2014 and we blew it. Even though I've emigrated its heartbreaking to see what is happening to Britain.

Chorley Hibee
30-04-2021, 07:45 AM
Yes I feel the same. Our chance was 2014 and we blew it. Even though I've emigrated its heartbreaking to see what is happening to Britain.

Incredibly I read that the Tory lead amongst the working classes is actually 19 (NINETEEN) points!

I've become convinced that the UK is suffering some collective form of Stockholm Syndrome.

Bostonhibby
30-04-2021, 07:52 AM
I agree, and it's depressing to see the polls on independence heading in favour of the union once again.

If it doesn't happen now then I doubt it ever will, certainly not in my lifetime.I'm thinking the same way, but the polls don't tell the whole story, I know many tory voters, the older and greedier ones are unlikely to change but theres a few, what i would call softer, tory voters who are less happy with Bozo and particularly Brexit than they were months ago.

Again it's probably another tory characteristic that's driving this, self interest, but amongst this group, say floating voters, the switchers who did it for Brexit and younger folk I'd say there's a shift in what they say.

I doubt the current version of labour can exploit that right now.



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Bangkok Hibby
30-04-2021, 08:06 AM
I'm having difficulty understanding how easy it seems to be for (mostly English voters) to switch between voting Tory or Labour. In my day it wouldn't happen.
We hear all the time people saying Labour aren't a credible opposition. So why does that mean you vote Tory???? What about Liberal? Green? Spoilt paper?
I've never been one to claim pride over much. We're all just people trying to make our way through life. However, I'm going to my grave PROUD to have never voted Tory.

Hibrandenburg
30-04-2021, 08:14 AM
English Tory voters deserve all they get! Very close behind, maybe even more so, are Scottish voters who vote to preserve the union.

England has been seduced by the same populist propaganda of imaginary enemies, supremacist madness and self entitlement that befell pre WW2 Germany. I know most will brush this off as bull**** but the parallels are there.

Bangkok Hibby
30-04-2021, 08:22 AM
England has been seduced by the same populist propaganda of imaginary enemies, supremacist madness and self entitlement that befell pre WW2 Germany. I know most will brush this off as bull**** but the parallels are there.

Working as I did with working class English males and listening to their "locker room banter" you wouldn't call it bull. I take comfort from the belief that whatever the future holds, England will be the losers.

Ozyhibby
30-04-2021, 08:42 AM
England has been seduced by the same populist propaganda of imaginary enemies, supremacist madness and self entitlement that befell pre WW2 Germany. I know most will brush this off as bull**** but the parallels are there.

Latest imaginary enemy appears to be Scotland the way the talk about NS.


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lapsedhibee
30-04-2021, 08:45 AM
Latest imaginary enemy appears to be Scotland the way the talk about NS.


Vitriol towards her is entirely justified, given that she's trying to steal away the biggest of the colonies that England still owns.

Jones28
30-04-2021, 09:13 AM
We need to get Anti Corruption Unit 12 on to him.

Ted Hastings would struggle to get to the bottom of this.

As the great man said: “Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the wee donkey”

Future17
30-04-2021, 09:32 AM
Ted Hastings would struggle to get to the bottom of this.

As the great man said: “Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the wee donkey”

For all we know, he might have donated 50 grand for cushions and be about to become Lord Ted of Hastings.

Hibrandenburg
30-04-2021, 09:59 AM
Latest imaginary enemy appears to be Scotland the way the talk about NS.


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Yep, I'm guessing annexation is on the cards. Scotland is not the enemy, it's that meddling non pro-British government they have, the people of Scotland need liberation and returned to the nurturing bosom of the empire.

Keith_M
30-04-2021, 11:56 AM
Yep, I'm guessing annexation is on the cards. Scotland is not the enemy, it's that meddling non pro-British government they have, the people of Scotland need liberation and returned to the nurturing bosom of the empire.


I just pictured BoJo as Darth Vader, waving a light sabre around and accidentally cutting off the limbs and heads of people unfortunate enough to be in the vicinity.

ronaldo7
30-04-2021, 12:47 PM
Yep, I'm guessing annexation is on the cards. Scotland is not the enemy, it's that meddling non pro-British government they have, the people of Scotland need liberation and returned to the nurturing bosom of the empire.

They might just round up the dirty nats and march them to Durham, to await their fate from the mighty bozo, ably supported by his knight in shining armour. 😲

Stairway 2 7
30-04-2021, 09:10 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1388237651296366599

Tories just 1% ahead in uk per latest survation poll

Moulin Yarns
30-04-2021, 09:16 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1388237651296366599

Tories just 1% ahead in uk per latest survation poll

I wonder what the point of a poll more than 3 years before an election actually is. Far too early to make any difference as far as I can see.

Jack
30-04-2021, 09:24 PM
I wonder what the point of a poll more than 3 years before an election actually is. Far too early to make any difference as far as I can see.

English local elections having a baring?

Kato
30-04-2021, 09:25 PM
I wonder what the point of a poll more than 3 years before an election actually is. Far too early to make any difference as far as I can see.The Tories set their weekly agenda by the polls, if there are a few more show the same they will react. I think this be the first poll after the "dead bodies" thing. Could just be an outlier as well.

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wookie70
30-04-2021, 10:32 PM
I just pictured BoJo as Darth Vader, waving a light sabre around and accidentally cutting off the limbs and heads of people unfortunate enough to be in the vicinity.

To be fair he must say "I am you Father" quite often

cabbageandribs1875
30-04-2021, 11:31 PM
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:agree: the good lady should have a look at his voting record at Westminster for plenty more material, she could also ask Baroness Davidson what she thinks of Murray's thoughts on Gay marriage

Jack
01-05-2021, 06:57 AM
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:agree: the good lady should have a look at his voting record at Westminster for plenty more material, she could also ask Baroness Davidson what she thinks of Murray's thoughts on Gay marriage

That had me thinking I hadn't seen much of the two of them together. You'd have thought with Ruth the mooths craving for a photo opportunity and easing the new boy in there would lots.

A simple Google image search only threw up a couple. And while Dross regularly looks as stiff as a corpse one of these looked like it was a cardboard cut out!

You might have thought the opposition might have noticed this too and made a mischief.

Ozyhibby
01-05-2021, 07:47 AM
That had me thinking I hadn't seen much of the two of them together. You'd have thought with Ruth the mooths craving for a photo opportunity and easing the new boy in there would lots.

A simple Google image search only threw up a couple. And while Dross regularly looks as stiff as a corpse one of these looked like it was a cardboard cut out!

You might have thought the opposition might have noticed this too and made a mischief.

They were together a few times at the beginning of the campaign but the press were beginning to comment that she was holding his hand on the campaign so she had to step back.


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cabbageandribs1875
02-05-2021, 02:02 PM
Tory donor 'asked to fund nanny for Boris Johnson's baby' as PM 'needs £300k to get by' (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tory-donor-asked-to-fund-nanny-for-boris-johnson-s-baby-as-pm-needs-300k-to-get-by/ar-BB1gh2wF?ocid=msedgntp)


A Tory donor was asked to fund a nanny for Boris Johnson's baby because the Prime Minister can't survive on his £157,372-a-year salary, bombshell reports say today.
The 'cash for curtains' saga has deepened after the claims in the Sunday Times - which reported the twice-divorced PM needs £300,000 a year to survive his high living costs.


shall we organise a whip round for this corrupt PoS :dunno:

cabbageandribs1875
02-05-2021, 02:10 PM
not a bad return eh..

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Moulin Yarns
02-05-2021, 02:15 PM
Tory donor 'asked to fund nanny for Boris Johnson's baby' as PM 'needs £300k to get by' (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tory-donor-asked-to-fund-nanny-for-boris-johnson-s-baby-as-pm-needs-300k-to-get-by/ar-BB1gh2wF?ocid=msedgntp)


A Tory donor was asked to fund a nanny for Boris Johnson's baby because the Prime Minister can't survive on his £157,372-a-year salary, bombshell reports say today.
The 'cash for curtains' saga has deepened after the claims in the Sunday Times - which reported the twice-divorced PM needs £300,000 a year to survive his high living costs.


shall we organise a whip round for this corrupt PoS :dunno:

No! Jacob Rees-Mogg is the one who organises the whips

cabbageandribs1875
02-05-2021, 02:32 PM
No! Jacob Rees-Mogg is the one who organises the whips


funnily enough i saw a photo of the lanky one the other day, lying down on princess nut nut's £7346245790253k couch, but he had stocking and suspenders on so i thought it was too "adult" for here :)

cabbageandribs1875
02-05-2021, 02:32 PM
Priorities :agree:

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cabbageandribs1875
03-05-2021, 07:12 AM
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Killiehibbie
03-05-2021, 07:19 AM
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How does somebody with no control get to run the country

Bostonhibby
03-05-2021, 07:25 AM
How does somebody with no control get to run the countryBy "taking back control" as he has so remarkably done already?

Other shallow three word slogans are available.

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Killiehibbie
03-05-2021, 07:31 AM
By "taking back control" as he has so remarkably done already?

Other shallow three word slogans are available.

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A vasectomy would've saved him a right few quid.
If you can't afford children don't have them or buy cheaper wallpaper

Bostonhibby
03-05-2021, 07:42 AM
A vasectomy would've saved him a right few quid.
If you can't afford children don't have them or buy cheaper wallpaperIf he hasn't got the cash for a vasectomy, there's a good free version available involving a red phone box door and no shortage of volunteers to help.

Get Boris done.

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Kato
03-05-2021, 08:06 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MattGarrahan/status/1388260664280588289


Goebbelization

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Stairway 2 7
03-05-2021, 08:41 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MattGarrahan/status/1388260664280588289


Goebbelization

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Actually disgusting, won't hear about it on the BBC though now that it's been blue washed

lapsedhibee
03-05-2021, 10:09 AM
Johnson has a personal trainer :faf::faf::faf:

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1388748804799795203

JeMeSouviens
03-05-2021, 10:15 AM
Imagine the relief in Downing St when they realise "Senior Tory" actually means Murray Ross. :faf:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0aVWSYWEAIXW5h?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

JeMeSouviens
03-05-2021, 10:18 AM
They were together a few times at the beginning of the campaign but the press were beginning to comment that she was holding his hand on the campaign so she had to step back.


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I think she'd have been stepping back at a considerable rate of knots when she realised they were about to fall back into 3rd place. Davidson will not want to tarnish the brand, she's probably going to be looking for a safe seat down south in the years ahead.

Kato
03-05-2021, 10:19 AM
Johnson has a personal trainer :faf::faf::faf:

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1388748804799795203He shouldn't be in charge of his own wallet never mind the countrys. As pointed out in the twitter thread a politician, from any party, struggling for cash is a security risk and open to leverage. All his financial dealings require a deeper scrutiny given he's more or less standing outside No10 with the begging bowl out.

Saying that the Torys have openly sold their leverage to the Russians for about a decade now.

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Jones28
03-05-2021, 11:43 AM
This is the same man who described half-a-million pound a year telegraph salary as chicken feed by the way. I wonder if he feels that way now?

Killiehibbie
03-05-2021, 12:23 PM
Johnson has a personal trainer :faf::faf::faf:

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1388748804799795203

He'd be better getting a dietician to go with the trainer.

lapsedhibee
03-05-2021, 01:11 PM
He'd be better getting a dietician to go with the trainer.

Whoever ends up paying for the personal trainer clearly more interested in getting a seat in The Lords than value for money.

Future17
03-05-2021, 01:14 PM
Whoever ends up paying for the personal trainer clearly more interested in getting a seat in The Lords than value for money.

You beat me to it. :greengrin

I wonder if they have a refunds process.

cabbageandribs1875
04-05-2021, 04:54 PM
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pay attention Labour voters in this country, you're possibly going to get one last chance to stop this happening in Scotland, don't wait until yer paying for appointments at the Docs, or hospital visits, or prescriptions :agree:

SHODAN
05-05-2021, 02:24 PM
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pay attention Labour voters in this country, you're possibly going to get one last chance to stop this happening in Scotland, don't wait until yer paying for appointments at the Docs, or hospital visits, or prescriptions :agree:

It's all building up to the day when the MSM splash "We hate to say it, but the NHS isn't working" on the front pages en masse. Guarantee it.

wookie70
05-05-2021, 02:25 PM
Not exactly hot of the press (https://londonconversation.com/news/jimll-fixit/)but another layer of potential corruption.

hibsbollah
06-05-2021, 12:59 PM
French fishermen In Jersey and Boris sending armed boats into the channel will delight his core vote...merci pour ça Pierre :rolleyes:

The Pointer
06-05-2021, 03:42 PM
French fishermen In Jersey and Boris sending armed boats into the channel will delight his core vote...merci pour ça Pierre :rolleyes:


Actually Fishery Protection vessels carrying out...fishery protection.

hibsbollah
06-05-2021, 04:31 PM
Actually Fishery Protection vessels carrying out...fishery protection.

Maybe you missed the We’re Ready for War headline in the Daily Mail, complete with an enthusiastic briefing by unnamed ministers, and the Dads Army style war map.

Lendo
06-05-2021, 05:46 PM
French fishermen In Jersey and Boris sending armed boats into the channel will delight his core vote...merci pour ça Pierre :rolleyes:

This is an absolute wet dream from Little Englanders.

Most of the ignorant Brexit voters won’t realise that Jersey isn’t actually part of the UK or even in the EU.

cabbageandribs1875
06-05-2021, 07:54 PM
The Ballad of Dominic Cummings


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the "Boris Doesn't Care" is pretty catchy :)

Future17
06-05-2021, 08:41 PM
French fishermen In Jersey and Boris sending armed boats into the channel will delight his core vote...merci pour ça Pierre :rolleyes:

That's how to "de-escalate". :greengrin

Glory Lurker
06-05-2021, 09:02 PM
Do you think the patrol boats will have managed to locate and pick up any of the tax Jersey's helped us not get over the years?

Hibrandenburg
07-05-2021, 12:08 AM
Initial reports suggesting it's been a good night for the Tories in Hartlepool.

cabbageandribs1875
07-05-2021, 05:18 AM
Labour have conceded defeat in Hartlepool


just to rub it in, how insulting is this to non-nasty people

https://i.ibb.co/qspkXsQ/mophead.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


again i say this is what some BLiS voters could condemn this country to for a decade, or two :agree:

BroxburnHibee
07-05-2021, 05:44 AM
Labour have conceded defeat in Hartlepool


just to rub it in, how insulting is this to non-nasty people

https://i.ibb.co/qspkXsQ/mophead.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


again i say this is what some BLiS voters could condemn this country to for a decade, or two :agree:

This sums things up down south.

The tories could do anything down there just now, no one cares because they've got their Brexit. Its disgusting!

Northernhibee
07-05-2021, 05:51 AM
Initial reports suggesting it's been a good night for the Tories in Hartlepool.

Utterly bizarre. They don’t even try to hide their contempt for the working class and get more popular as a result.

Ozyhibby
07-05-2021, 05:57 AM
Utterly bizarre. They don’t even try to hide their contempt for the working class and get more popular as a result.

So long as they keep pulling stunts like sending the navy out to deal with the French on Election Day, the English public will lap it up. They are now the English nationalist party.


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JimBHibees
07-05-2021, 06:03 AM
So long as they keep pulling stunts like sending the navy out to deal with the French on Election Day, the English public will lap it up. They are now the English nationalist party.


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Yep. The sooner we get out of this shambles the better.

Northernhibee
07-05-2021, 06:20 AM
Yep. The sooner we get out of this shambles the better.

Yep. It’s clear that a large amount the north of England want to be impoverished, see thousands of their fellow people dead through a lack of leadership through the COVID crisis as acceptable and are delighted to have cronyism running wild and as much as I have disdain for them, that’s their choice.

It’s also not our choice, we need to go our own way.

Bristolhibby
07-05-2021, 06:22 AM
Independence is the only way forward for Scotland. Unfortunately we in England are lost.

How is Labour going to begin to get parity? Johnson is Teflon.

J

Ozyhibby
07-05-2021, 06:28 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210507/7f3c19651e7b4755087ab0eafe4e68bf.jpg
Why Johnson and the Tories are winning in England. There is no end in sight.


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Northernhibee
07-05-2021, 06:34 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210507/7f3c19651e7b4755087ab0eafe4e68bf.jpg
Why Johnson and the Tories are winning in England. There is no end in sight.


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Yep. Bang on. Who cares if you’re in an hour long queue at the food bank if the foreign sounding couple down the road are having a more miserable time and going elsewhere, or those damn lefty women wanting fair treatment are getting attacked by police. The paper told me to hate them so something must be right.

That tweet sums it up.

Bristolhibby
07-05-2021, 07:12 AM
Yep. Bang on. Who cares if you’re in an hour long queue at the food bank if the foreign sounding couple down the road are having a more miserable time and going elsewhere, or those damn lefty women wanting fair treatment are getting attacked by police. The paper told me to hate them so something must be right.

That tweet sums it up.

Working Class Tories. The worst.

As long as I’m marginally less poor than my neighbour then I’ll vote for Boris.

Don’t even realise they are being played. Total Stockholm Syndrome.

J

Chorley Hibee
07-05-2021, 07:20 AM
Amidst the gloom of the impending disaster down South, I took great pleasure in watching John Bercow eviscerate Robert Jenrick and the Tory party on Question Time last night.

He sounded more like a leader of the opposition than the supposed one.

Northernhibee
07-05-2021, 07:41 AM
Working Class Tories. The worst.

As long as I’m marginally less poor than my neighbour then I’ll vote for Boris.

Don’t even realise they are being played. Total Stockholm Syndrome.

J

It would be wrong to say that they deserve everything that's coming to them, but it's also getting more and more difficult to not say it.

Bostonhibby
07-05-2021, 07:57 AM
Labour have conceded defeat in Hartlepool


just to rub it in, how insulting is this to non-nasty people

https://i.ibb.co/qspkXsQ/mophead.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


again i say this is what some BLiS voters could condemn this country to for a decade, or two :agree:The Nasty party don't care, as long as their snouts are getting closer to the trough or in this case they believe they are.

Bozo's blundered through the pandemic and got lucky eventually, the electorate is just not focused on corruption or sleaze just now.

Many are distracted by manufactured anti EU agenda, theres a very pro Nasty media, the owners of which have never had it so good.

Perhaps understably many are not yet convinced by Labour's position on a number of fronts. The party, as ever, is still focussed on consuming itself from the inside out. The Nasty party seems to manage to conceal that better until they decide their leader becomes a liability.

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Ozyhibby
07-05-2021, 09:10 AM
The Nasty party don't care, as long as their snouts are getting closer to the trough or in this case they believe they are.

Bozo's blundered through the pandemic and got lucky eventually, the electorate is just not focused on corruption or sleaze just now.

Many are distracted by manufactured anti EU agenda, theres a very pro Nasty media, the owners of which have never had it so good.

Perhaps understably many are not yet convinced by Labour's position on a number of fronts. The party, as ever, is still focussed on consuming itself from the inside out. The Nasty party seems to manage to conceal that better until they decide their leader becomes a liability.

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The corruption and sleaze has just been given a free pass. It’s going to get a lot worse now.


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Bostonhibby
07-05-2021, 09:16 AM
The corruption and sleaze has just been given a free pass. It’s going to get a lot worse now.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAgreed, I think it's going to take a lot longer for the impact to be felt and for the gap between what is currently being promised and the actual delivery to become clearer.

It'll be interesting to see how popular the nasties are when furlough payments end and the true state of the job market becomes apparent.

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Hibrandenburg
07-05-2021, 09:25 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210507/7f3c19651e7b4755087ab0eafe4e68bf.jpg
Why Johnson and the Tories are winning in England. There is no end in sight.


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It's sad but very true. That's exactly what empowers fascists.

BroxburnHibee
07-05-2021, 09:50 AM
The corruption and sleaze has just been given a free pass. It’s going to get a lot worse now.


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I hope we're a bit better than that up here but we must be guarded against it. I'd hate for our country to go the same way.

The only way we can stop it is independence in my opinion. Labour would prosper in an independent Scotland but they're shackled to their counterparts down south.

Callum_62
07-05-2021, 10:06 AM
I hope we're a bit better than that up here but we must be guarded against it. I'd hate for our country to go the same way.

The only way we can stop it is independence in my opinion. Labour would prosper in an independent Scotland but they're shackled to their counterparts down south.I'm sure our current leader was just subjected to days of scrutiny over a did she meet someone at this date or this date

The way it should be ofcourse

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H18S NX
07-05-2021, 11:15 AM
Amidst the gloom of the impending disaster down South, I took great pleasure in watching John Bercow eviscerate Robert Jenrick and the Tory party on Question Time last night.

He sounded more like a leader of the opposition than the supposed one.....Was'nt it brilliant.I thought Bercow was amazing,especially when he told them they will definitely pay for their mistakes when they are called for the
Inquiry into Covid.

Hibernia&Alba
07-05-2021, 01:11 PM
Hartlepool going Tory. They should hang their hands in shame for selling out everything their forefathers fought for in towns like that. This is a government neck deep in corruption and incompetence, yet it can win in Hartlepool. What does that say about Labour?

Callum_62
07-05-2021, 01:13 PM
Hartlepool going Tory. They should hang their hands in shame for selling out everything their forefathers fought for in towns like that. This is a government neck deep in corruption and incompetence, yet it can win in Hartlepool. What does that say about Labour?It's says everything about where England are heading

Absolutely nothing we can do about that - it's tory govts at WM for the forseeable

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Hibernia&Alba
07-05-2021, 01:28 PM
It's says everything about where England are heading

Absolutely nothing we can do about that - it's tory govts at WM for the forseeable

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The disconnect between England and Scotland is consistently widening. I just don't understand the thinking of voting Tory in one of the poorest parts of the UK.

Tommy75
07-05-2021, 02:14 PM
The disconnect between England and Scotland is consistently widening. I just don't understand the thinking of voting Tory in one of the poorest parts of the UK.

Could you not say that about Scotland other European countries though? Italy, Poland and others have right-wing governments but there seems to be no issue from SNP voters about joining a political union with these countries?

Callum_62
07-05-2021, 02:16 PM
Could you not say that about Scotland other European countries though? Italy, Poland and others have right-wing governments but there seems to be no issue from SNP voters about joining a political union with these countries?Is the EU political union the same as the WM political union?

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cabbageandribs1875
08-05-2021, 12:33 PM
wtf is going on..

https://i.ibb.co/gtvk8MW/foodbanks.jpg (https://ibb.co/XFycPZ5)

Kato
08-05-2021, 12:58 PM
wtf is going on..

https://i.ibb.co/gtvk8MW/foodbanks.jpg (https://ibb.co/XFycPZ5)When does it become acceptable to call these people thick?

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DaveF
08-05-2021, 01:26 PM
wtf is going on..

https://i.ibb.co/gtvk8MW/foodbanks.jpg (https://ibb.co/XFycPZ5)

That cannot be genuine. Surely, please tell me it's fake 😲

Bangkok Hibby
08-05-2021, 01:37 PM
That cannot be genuine. Surely, please tell me it's fake 😲

My first thought too. Remember when people said nothing that happens in the USA should surprise you? Now its England!

weecounty hibby
08-05-2021, 01:57 PM
That cannot be genuine. Surely, please tell me it's fake 😲

It probably is. I watched a programme on the run up to the last GE and they were in a northern English Town, not sure if it was Hartlepool though. Anyway they were following a couple who were mid 20s, living in homeless accommodation, and were visiting a food bank for their food. Asked about voting intentions they said they were voting for Boris cos he was going to get Brexit done and take back control. Honestly could not believe what I was hearing

Bostonhibby
08-05-2021, 02:05 PM
When does it become acceptable to call these people thick?

Sent from my SM-A405FN using TapatalkWhen they've all got hundreds of new food banks and are actively celebrating this and calling them Boris Banks, or Bozo banks?

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Kato
08-05-2021, 02:06 PM
It probably is. I watched a programme on the run up to the last GE and they were in a northern English Town, not sure if it was Hartlepool though. Anyway they were following a couple who were mid 20s, living in homeless accommodation, and were visiting a food bank for their food. Asked about voting intentions they said they were voting for Boris cos he was going to get Brexit done and take back control. Honestly could not believe what I was hearing

The propaganda surrounding Brexit was described as "weapons grade psych-ops", powerful stuff which won't wear off quickly. Some of my English in-laws still think Turkey are on the verge of joining the EU.

weecounty hibby
08-05-2021, 02:19 PM
The propaganda surrounding Brexit was described as "weapons grade psych-ops", powerful stuff which won't wear off quickly. Some of my English in-laws still think Turkey are on the verge of joining the EU.
It is sad just how much power the MSM have over the electorate. These white, male, right wing types have way too much power

Jones28
09-05-2021, 05:45 AM
wtf is going on..

https://i.ibb.co/gtvk8MW/foodbanks.jpg (https://ibb.co/XFycPZ5)

Satire died a long long time ago, this is just sad.

hibsbollah
09-05-2021, 03:56 PM
You’d have to pay me to drink in this fine establishment....

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/laurence-fox-and-richard-tice-to-open-a-pub-serving-only-british-food-268562/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=bfa&fbclid=IwAR2GJA93Pq7UflVgBipEFVqxSEbQ1dLmxFTbKJFzV 8_WXaz5DvpMNyh5rNA

Northernhibee
09-05-2021, 06:34 PM
You’d have to pay me to drink in this fine establishment....

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/laurence-fox-and-richard-tice-to-open-a-pub-serving-only-british-food-268562/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=bfa&fbclid=IwAR2GJA93Pq7UflVgBipEFVqxSEbQ1dLmxFTbKJFzV 8_WXaz5DvpMNyh5rNA

"The home of right wing comedy".

That sounds horrendous.

hibsbollah
09-05-2021, 08:31 PM
"The home of right wing comedy".

That sounds horrendous.

You know that boring bigoted ******* sitting at the bar all night? In this pub, every ****er is that guy.

WeeRussell
09-05-2021, 08:42 PM
"The home of right wing comedy".

That sounds horrendous.

Well, I hope that’s a business that falls quickly on its arse.

Alas I’ve no doubt it’ll have plenty of support and regulars to keep it on top.

Killiehibbie
09-05-2021, 09:18 PM
You know that boring bigoted ******* sitting at the bar all night? In this pub, every ****er is that guy.
All drinking bitter and old peculiar.

Future17
09-05-2021, 10:05 PM
All drinking, bitter, old and peculiar.

FTFY :greengrin

Killiehibbie
10-05-2021, 06:36 AM
FTFY :greengrin

Cheers🍻

Bostonhibby
10-05-2021, 07:07 AM
All drinking bitter and old peculiar.[emoji16]

Or in Gove's and Rees-Smug's case Very Peculiar.

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Northernhibee
10-05-2021, 07:45 AM
Well, I hope that’s a business that falls quickly on its arse.

Alas I’ve no doubt it’ll have plenty of support and regulars to keep it on top.

Least Jim Davidson, Jim Davidson and Jim Davidson will be able to get bookings there.

degenerated
10-05-2021, 07:59 AM
"The home of right wing comedy".

That sounds horrendous.Sounds great. A night of warm flat beer or Carling cooking lager and reheated frozen meals followed by an evening of comedy with the likes of Lee Hurst and Leo Kearse.

I think I'll pass.

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Moulin Yarns
10-05-2021, 09:21 AM
https://twitter.com/milneorchid/status/1391649226350895108?s=19

Just Alf
10-05-2021, 12:50 PM
"The home of right wing comedy".

That sounds horrendous.

For me a major part of comedy is poking fun at yourself.... agree it sounds cr*p, they'll be in one big echo chamber :rolleyes:

Hibernia&Alba
10-05-2021, 01:09 PM
"The home of right wing comedy".

That sounds horrendous.

So that will be Jim Davidson, Stan Boardman and who else? Bernard Manning long gone.

cabbageandribs1875
10-05-2021, 01:32 PM
The disconnect between England and Scotland is consistently widening. I just don't understand the thinking of voting Tory in one of the poorest parts of the UK.


the promise of more foodbanks must be very appealing :agree:


wait a minute..

lapsedhibee
10-05-2021, 01:48 PM
So that will be Jim Davidson, Stan Boardman and who else? Bernard Manning long gone.

Geoff Northcott (who is actually funny).

Hibrandenburg
10-05-2021, 01:55 PM
the promise of more foodbanks must be very appealing :agree:


wait a minute..

After a Brainstorming in the cabinet, Boris has come up with the idea of Pub Banks, Tim Martin is apparently livid as he thought he'd already cornered the market.

Hibernia&Alba
10-05-2021, 01:59 PM
Geoff Northcott (who is actually funny).

Never heard of him.

Bostonhibby
10-05-2021, 02:06 PM
the promise of more foodbanks must be very appealing :agree:


wait a minute..What do we want? Food banks.

When do we want them? Now.

Every chance they wont be disappointed.

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cabbageandribs1875
10-05-2021, 02:21 PM
After a Brainstorming in the cabinet, Boris has come up with the idea of Pub Banks, Tim Martin is apparently livid as he thought he'd already cornered the market.


https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/183891064_1604877219720672_4453470992791906924_n.j pg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=BiNJnQf3CvoAX_W2Bua&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=a97c258119d7cccb41c290d06b7c3562&oe=60BE6CB3

:)



What do we want? Food banks.

When do we want them? Now.

Every chance they wont be disappointed.

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i've saw photos over the last few years down south of local Tory MP's visiting foodbanks, all those in the queues pleasantly smiling for the photoshoot, at the time i've always thought,nah...they're plants, they simply HAVE to be, Hartlepool has answered my curiosity

Bostonhibby
10-05-2021, 02:32 PM
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/183891064_1604877219720672_4453470992791906924_n.j pg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=BiNJnQf3CvoAX_W2Bua&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=a97c258119d7cccb41c290d06b7c3562&oe=60BE6CB3

:)




i've saw photos over the last few years down south of local Tory MP's visiting foodbanks, all those in the queues pleasantly smiling for the photoshoot, at the time i've always thought,nah...they're plants, they simply HAVE to be, Hartlepool has answered my curiosityMy local favourite was a story from Saturday in the pub tent when a group were discussing the council elections - the area has just voted in an independent for the first time ahead of the incumbent Nasty party candidate.

A Guy sitting addressing the group was overheard saying at least "we" created food banks, can't see the independent doing that.



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cabbageandribs1875
10-05-2021, 02:32 PM
meanwhile, Carcrash Carlaw is thanking the Labour voters for their votes...seriously though, how could they do that

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/183867447_10218227107581088_3191622795326748614_n. jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=oUsJekTXlcwAX8Ed1O_&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=d59b2934f506b05dd61cb1f122ca91d4&oe=60BDCAFC

Bostonhibby
10-05-2021, 02:35 PM
meanwhile, Carcrash Carlaw is thanking the Labour voters for their votes...

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/183867447_10218227107581088_3191622795326748614_n. jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=oUsJekTXlcwAX8Ed1O_&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=d59b2934f506b05dd61cb1f122ca91d4&oe=60BDCAFCI'm afraid that one shows that England's not alone in having turkeys that vote for xmas.

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cabbageandribs1875
10-05-2021, 06:44 PM
My local favourite was a story from Saturday in the pub tent when a group were discussing the council elections - the area has just voted in an independent for the first time ahead of the incumbent Nasty party candidate.

A Guy sitting addressing the group was overheard saying at least "we" created food banks, can't see the independent doing that.



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here's a Selfie from Dominic Raab, the staff appear so pleased his nasty party has opened a foodbank for them, so proud

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/184915463_10226434481950838_8323711717139354023_n. jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Sw5w-YqFGYgAX9OrwHa&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=1076b8b14fa8b225d321bfa5828d3577&oe=60BFE27F

Bostonhibby
10-05-2021, 06:48 PM
here's a Selfie from Dominic Raab, the staff appear so pleased his nasty party has opened a foodbank for them, so proud

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/184915463_10226434481950838_8323711717139354023_n. jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Sw5w-YqFGYgAX9OrwHa&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=1076b8b14fa8b225d321bfa5828d3577&oe=60BFE27FWhere to begin? The exploiter siezing the photo opportunity or the people who seem happy to be pictured with him.

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cabbageandribs1875
10-05-2021, 06:56 PM
Where to begin? The exploiter siezing the photo opportunity or the people who seem happy to be pictured with him.

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the latter, there are so many nasty politicians, coincidently in the nasty party:greengrin, it's the ones that vote the ***s in that need to change their way of thinking...or at least explain why they think it's appropriate voting for corruption :cb

cabbageandribs1875
11-05-2021, 12:45 PM
apparently they were going back and forth trying to stay in sight of the camera :greengrin


https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/184990353_4360856520593113_8020990930773877675_n.j pg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=jEylcqSDxXoAX8xUvk7&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=cff893634f730d888a0869c61701a291&oe=60C159D7

cabbageandribs1875
12-05-2021, 01:19 PM
no doubt it will be left to a Donor to pay it....for a favour/contract

Boris Johnson served with court judgment over £535 unpaid debt | Boris Johnson | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/may/12/boris-johnson-faces-court-judgment-over-535-unpaid-debt?fbclid=IwAR00pepn4zi9MZWk3c4SywnlH1zcaOL0HVSI QITJyM_7xP79fluAfFVLUKI)

Boris Johnson served with court judgment over £535 unpaid debt


County court judgment puts prime minister at potential risk of bad credit rating and action by bailiffs

Bostonhibby
12-05-2021, 02:54 PM
no doubt it will be left to a Donor to pay it....for a favour/contract

Boris Johnson served with court judgment over £535 unpaid debt | Boris Johnson | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/may/12/boris-johnson-faces-court-judgment-over-535-unpaid-debt?fbclid=IwAR00pepn4zi9MZWk3c4SywnlH1zcaOL0HVSI QITJyM_7xP79fluAfFVLUKI)

Boris Johnson served with court judgment over £535 unpaid debt


County court judgment puts prime minister at potential risk of bad credit rating and action by bailiffs

Hancock's pub landlord could pay it out his till and still not knock a hole in his PPE windfall.

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Hibernia&Alba
13-05-2021, 05:38 PM
Global capitalism, corruption and greed.


https://youtu.be/OhkFbgxQuXA

Pretty Boy
15-05-2021, 07:19 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/14/cameron-job-office-greensill-scandal-spellchecker?CMP=fb_cif

Marina Hyde with her usual acerbic and brilliant take this week.

H18S NX
15-05-2021, 11:50 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/14/cameron-job-office-greensill-scandal-spellchecker?CMP=fb_cif

Marina Hyde with her usual acerbic and brilliant take this week....That was a good read.:aok:

hibsbollah
15-05-2021, 05:01 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/14/cameron-job-office-greensill-scandal-spellchecker?CMP=fb_cif

Marina Hyde with her usual acerbic and brilliant take this week.

Plenty chuckles there :agree:

Ozyhibby
17-05-2021, 12:53 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/hatred-of-fake-rangers-fans-must-be-curbed-helen-martin-3238477?fbclid=IwAR0mqjvDLYnh0W3KcVrIRpw1Q4rqmNmj7 TfT2FZCYu98YdpZ-cY4AML-5zE

Will Murdo Fraser condem it the way he did the protest on Thursday?


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cabbageandribs1875
18-05-2021, 08:59 PM
Nurse who cared for Boris Johnson resigns over ‘lack of respect’ for NHS workers | NHS | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/may/18/nurse-who-cared-for-boris-johnson-resigns-over-lack-of-respect-for-nhs-workers?fbclid=IwAR3fdYg0YWW8_qnLzqEeadtydImgJ8xOh Nl6tZs7K6GZsY2tvk4aPGdPgk4)

A nurse who cared for Boris Johnson (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/boris-johnson) when he was gravely ill with Covid-19 says she has handed in her resignation, such is her disillusionment with the “lack of respect” shown by the government for the NHS and healthcare workers.

McGee, who is originally from Invercargill in New Zealand, said she had been asked but declined to take part in a “clap for carers’” at the event.

respect :applause:

cabbageandribs1875
19-05-2021, 12:45 PM
https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/187248078_1639906296200149_898754284192892252_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=8XelR7ovs98AX-Ms0tk&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=d1ad6b8cf7f43840d79afa69e79ae98f&oe=60C95555

Jack
19-05-2021, 06:17 PM
Channel 4 news reporting that all this covid aid we're generously giving to poor countries overseas will be coming out the already reduced foreign aid budget. So while we are helping these countries the programmes that thought they were getting aid now won't.

https://www.channel4.com/news/__trashed-3

Crunchie
19-05-2021, 06:22 PM
Channel 4 news reporting that all this covid aid we're generously giving to poor countries overseas will be coming out the already reduced foreign aid budget. So while we are helping these countries the programmes that thought they were getting aid now won't.

https://www.channel4.com/news/__trashed-3
The likes of India and Pakistan should be getting no aid imo as long as they plough billions into their nuclear programmes. The likes of Myanmar should be getting more.

Future17
19-05-2021, 06:33 PM
The likes of India and Pakistan should be getting no aid imo as long as they plough billions into their nuclear programmes. The likes of Myanmar should be getting more.

You're at it.

Crunchie
19-05-2021, 06:37 PM
You're at it.
At what exactly :confused: if you think they deserve money you can donate as much as you like, I don't want to see my money going into a nuclear programme when it's supposed to be going to the poor.

CropleyWasGod
19-05-2021, 06:48 PM
At what exactly :confused: if you think they deserve money you can donate as much as you like, I don't want to see my money going into a nuclear programme when it's supposed to be going to the poor.

HMG has long had people fully employed in ensuring that aid money is used for its intended purpose.

Lendo
19-05-2021, 07:16 PM
We stole enough from these countries during Britain’s colonial era that it’s the least we can do.

Jack
19-05-2021, 08:55 PM
The likes of India and Pakistan should be getting no aid imo as long as they plough billions into their nuclear programmes. The likes of Myanmar should be getting more.

Do you know how foreign aid works?

Andy Bee
19-05-2021, 11:01 PM
Just watched Robert Buckland on Peston trying to defend the decision of India going on the red list 2 weeks too late. He's an absolute weasel. You'd think he'd learn after Hancock was caught out trying to defend the decision by inflating the figures from Pakistan and Bangladesh but yet he's peddling the same old lies. The 2 weeks they chose to keep India off the red list but shutting up shop to Pakistan and Bangladesh over 8000 passengers came into the UK with a positivity rate of 7% so over 600 positive cases were allowed into the country from India, nope, nowt to do with putting a trade deal before the welfare of the population, no way.

I'd put Buckland at a strong 6.8 on the Gove scale.

Future17
20-05-2021, 10:14 PM
At what exactly :confused: if you think they deserve money you can donate as much as you like, I don't want to see my money going into a nuclear programme when it's supposed to be going to the poor.

You think we should be giving more money to military dictatorships who have spent the past few months murdering their nation's civilians?

Crunchie
21-05-2021, 10:11 AM
You think we should be giving more money to military dictatorships who have spent the past few months murdering their nation's civilians?
I don't think we should be giving any money to military dicatorship's no. Aid was stopped to Myanmar but we should still be giving aid to help the poor over there and help them get rid of said dictatorship though, isn't that what we do?

Jack
21-05-2021, 11:20 AM
I don't think we should be giving any money to military dicatorship's no. Aid was stopped to Myanmar but we should still be giving aid to help the poor over there and help them get rid of said dictatorship though, isn't that what we do?

Do you not see a problem there in getting aid to people to overthrow a dictatorship under the noses of said dictatorship?

It might be what the dark ops people in the USA do. I'm not sure the UK has done much recently except in the Bond movies!

Crunchie
21-05-2021, 12:07 PM
Do you not see a problem there in getting aid to people to overthrow a dictatorship under the noses of said dictatorship?

It might be what the dark ops people in the USA do. I'm not sure the UK has done much recently except in the Bond movies!
Have the red cross ceased to exist?

Future17
21-05-2021, 01:28 PM
I don't think we should be giving any money to military dicatorship's no. Aid was stopped to Myanmar but we should still be giving aid to help the poor over there and help them get rid of said dictatorship though, isn't that what we do?

I'm not sure I understand the question - isn't what "what we do"?

If I'm understanding your general point correctly, you're happy for us to give (directly) to the poor in Myanmar, but not in India and Pakistan?

Crunchie
21-05-2021, 01:33 PM
I'm not sure I understand the question - isn't what "what we do"?

If I'm understanding your general point correctly, you're happy for us to give (directly) to the poor in Myanmar, but not in India and Pakistan?
If India and Pakistan can afford a nuclear arms programme they can certainly afford to look after their own poor, wouldn't you say? Or are you happy they spend billions on arms and plead poverty at the same time.

Jack
21-05-2021, 01:43 PM
Have the red cross ceased to exist?

Tell us how much the UK government give to the Red Cross in the form of foreign aid? Is the aid to the British or International Red Cross, or both?

You haven't answered a previous question I asked you that was do you understand what foreign aid actually is?

weecounty hibby
21-05-2021, 01:46 PM
If India and Pakistan can afford a nuclear arms programme they can certainly afford to look after their own poor, wouldn't you say? Or are you happy they spend billions on arms and plead poverty at the same time.

How do you feel about the UK spending so much on the same nuclear weapons yet having an increasing number of food banks. Also I believe the Red Cross gave assistance to the poor in the UK for the first time ever.

Ozyhibby
21-05-2021, 02:05 PM
If India and Pakistan can afford a nuclear arms programme they can certainly afford to look after their own poor, wouldn't you say? Or are you happy they spend billions on arms and plead poverty at the same time.

They may argue that they are looking after their own poor by protecting their land from invasion?


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Future17
21-05-2021, 02:46 PM
If India and Pakistan can afford a nuclear arms programme they can certainly afford to look after their own poor, wouldn't you say? Or are you happy they spend billions on arms and plead poverty at the same time.

But if we should support the poor directly (bypassing government) in Myanmar, why shouldn't we do it in India and Pakistan?

Crunchie
21-05-2021, 04:53 PM
How do you feel about the UK spending so much on the same nuclear weapons yet having an increasing number of food banks. Also I believe the Red Cross gave assistance to the poor in the UK for the first time ever.
How do you feel about the quite scandalous obesity problem we have in this country in both children and adults, tell me how that squares with having food banks. And the red cross in the UK I believe was a gimmick, can't remember the details but an obvious gimmick.

Kato
21-05-2021, 05:11 PM
How do you feel about the quite scandalous obesity problem we have in this country in both children and adults, tell me how that squares with having food banks.

:rolleyes:

CropleyWasGod
21-05-2021, 05:12 PM
How do you feel about the quite scandalous obesity problem we have in this country in both children and adults, tell me how that squares with having food banks. And the red cross in the UK I believe was a gimmick, can't remember the details but an obvious gimmick.

Is this what you remember? Doesn't seem like a gimmick to me.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24487146.amp

Moulin Yarns
21-05-2021, 05:13 PM
How do you feel about the quite scandalous obesity problem we have in this country in both children and adults, tell me how that squares with having food banks. And the red cross in the UK I believe was a gimmick, can't remember the details but an obvious gimmick.

I hate folk who don't answer simple questions but instead ask an unrelated question. Are you Douglas Ross or Annie Wells by any chance? 😉

weecounty hibby
21-05-2021, 05:24 PM
How do you feel about the quite scandalous obesity problem we have in this country in both children and adults, tell me how that squares with having food banks. And the red cross in the UK I believe was a gimmick, can't remember the details but an obvious gimmick.
That is Tory levels of deflection. Your new pals in the party will be chuffed to bits with you. You have gone from moaning about giving poor countries aid to basically saying there is no poverty problems in this country cos some folk are fat. Bravo

Future17
21-05-2021, 05:26 PM
How do you feel about the quite scandalous obesity problem we have in this country in both children and adults, tell me how that squares with having food banks. And the red cross in the UK I believe was a gimmick, can't remember the details but an obvious gimmick.

Speaking of obesity...

:troll:

weecounty hibby
21-05-2021, 05:29 PM
Anyhoo, I'm off the Holy Ground for the weekend. Hibs are in the Scottish Cup final and I wish each and every Hibby well this weekend regardless of political outlooks.🇳🇬✌🇳🇬✌🇳🇬

Jack
21-05-2021, 05:43 PM
How do you feel about the quite scandalous obesity problem we have in this country in both children and adults, tell me how that squares with having food banks. And the red cross in the UK I believe was a gimmick, can't remember the details but an obvious gimmick.

Are you suggesting we carve up the plumper populace and feed it to the hungry?

Crunchie
21-05-2021, 06:12 PM
That is Tory levels of deflection. Your new pals in the party will be chuffed to bits with you. You have gone from moaning about giving poor countries aid to basically saying there is no poverty problems in this country cos some folk are fat. Bravo
Scotland has a massive obesity problem and it is mainly the poorer in society, there is absolutely no deflection there at all. And I wasn't moaning about anything, I was stating an opinion, something the far left want to remove from anyone with a differing opinion to theirs.

Hibrandenburg
21-05-2021, 06:13 PM
One positive about this Tory government is that they've helped me understand a phenomenon that has evaded my comprehension, how fascists managed to gain compliance from the population in 1930's Europe.

Jones28
21-05-2021, 06:20 PM
How do you feel about the quite scandalous obesity problem we have in this country in both children and adults, tell me how that squares with having food banks. And the red cross in the UK I believe was a gimmick, can't remember the details but an obvious gimmick.

Holy **** 😂😂😂😂

cabbageandribs1875
21-05-2021, 07:13 PM
I hate folk who don't answer simple questions but instead ask an unrelated question. Are you Douglas Ross or Annie Wells by any chance? 😉


or..
Hometeam
or...
slavers
or...
Trapper

:shocked:

cabbageandribs1875
21-05-2021, 07:29 PM
https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/190326264_4080997058623761_3614074786666869296_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=B92DPPGMFWgAX9LI9bh&_nc_oc=AQknr_f7DEY-G6S4OhrKKkO8ZgPy89lt8yB9V4TON_0UigsIMk-_wt4AMAz-chZWQjs&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=9d603a83241576f25f4c35213f3b6656&oe=60CBD8C2

i predict a new plane will get named Air Force One

Kato
21-05-2021, 07:32 PM
https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/190326264_4080997058623761_3614074786666869296_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=B92DPPGMFWgAX9LI9bh&_nc_oc=AQknr_f7DEY-G6S4OhrKKkO8ZgPy89lt8yB9V4TON_0UigsIMk-_wt4AMAz-chZWQjs&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=9d603a83241576f25f4c35213f3b6656&oe=60CBD8C2

i predict a new plane will get named Air Force One

Oh look! Are they all getting faux military uniforms? They should get Hugo Boss in to design them.

Ozyhibby
21-05-2021, 07:39 PM
Oh look! Are they all getting faux military uniforms? They should get Hugo Boss in to design them.

Union flag armbands would look great.[emoji106]


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cabbageandribs1875
21-05-2021, 07:44 PM
Oh look! Are they all getting faux military uniforms? They should get Hugo Boss in to design them.



it looks all so American huh, pity that £2.5m was also thrown away on the White House style press conference room, it just looks odd seeing the Blonde Bombshell without his famous Hi-Vis jacket on

lapsedhibee
21-05-2021, 08:05 PM
Oh look! Are they all getting faux military uniforms?

Poor, poor Mark François. His time has come, but he's been such a naughty Tory that he's missing out. :boo hoo:

Kato
21-05-2021, 08:28 PM
Union flag armbands would look great.[emoji106]


No one would be able to complain about those.

cabbageandribs1875
21-05-2021, 09:07 PM
i'm starting to quite like Bercow nowadays :agree: Hoyle couldnae lace his boots


John Bercow: It's time to rage against the liar on the right | The New European (https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/john-bercow-on-the-governments-warped-priorities-7980444)

Former Commons speaker John Bercow on his anger at the government’s warped priorities and the Voter ID plan which proposes "a solution to a problem that does not exist"
What’s in the Queen’s Speech, and what’s left out of it, tells us everything about the warped priorities and sheer unpleasantness of this government. I am enraged about it and anyone who cares about human wellbeing and the health of our democracy should likewise be enraged.

It is delusional to suppose that we can compete with the Far East by slashing pay and conditions, rather than by sound investment, modern infrastructure and quality products. A sweatshop economy is commercially counter-productive and sure to spawn worse employee health, physical and mental alike.


Rees-Mogg's/Sunak's wet dream

Moulin Yarns
21-05-2021, 09:20 PM
Scotland has a massive obesity problem and it is mainly the poorer in society, there is absolutely no deflection there at all. And I wasn't moaning about anything, I was stating an opinion, something the far left want to remove from anyone with a differing opinion to theirs.

**** it


Darwin had the right idea about natural selection 😉

Moulin Yarns
21-05-2021, 09:23 PM
or..
Hometeam
or...
slavers
or...
Trapper

:shocked:

I couldn't possibly say, but I do believe Trapper may have a new name 😉

Jack
21-05-2021, 10:07 PM
it looks all so American huh, pity that £2.5m was also thrown away on the White House style press conference room, it just looks odd seeing the Blonde Bombshell without his famous Hi-Vis jacket on

A point of trivia here.

The White House press conference room was redesigned, electronics and all that guff, after the Americans visited St Andrews House and were so impressed by the stuff where NS does her briefings they copied it.

Moulin Yarns
22-05-2021, 05:45 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-57211999

4 scottish political parties show unity against priti Patel.

Future17
22-05-2021, 06:09 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-57211999

4 scottish political parties show unity against priti Patel.

Four?

wookie70
22-05-2021, 08:38 PM
Four? Must be a lib dem on the third page. MRoss sent a separate letter saying Priti should be concentrating on getting rid of the Gypsies

Hibrandenburg
23-05-2021, 09:05 AM
Patel telling Sky News that trust and confidence has been compromised in the BBC. :faf:

lapsedhibee
24-05-2021, 05:36 AM
Patel telling Sky News that trust and confidence has been compromised in the BBC. :faf:

Missed her on Marr. Did she really utter the 'word' posititative? (https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/status/1396398511428677635)

JimBHibees
24-05-2021, 01:49 PM
Missed her on Marr. Did she really utter the 'word' posititative? (https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/status/1396398511428677635)

Not sure but he was so weak to her it was embarrassing

lapsedhibee
24-05-2021, 03:53 PM
Not sure but he was so weak to her it was embarrassing

Caught it on iPlayer. She didn't say positatitive, she said positivitive. Marr looked like he was thinking 'There's no point me asking this person difficult questions, she's too dense to understand them, I'll just lob her softballs'.

Ozyhibby
24-05-2021, 04:15 PM
Caught it on iPlayer. She didn't say positatitive, she said positivitive. Marr looked like he was thinking 'There's no point me asking this person difficult questions, she's too dense to understand them, I'll just lob her softballs'.

BBC can’t do anything else now. It’s massively on the back foot and heavily under attack. It will now become a propaganda tool for the Conservative party.


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wookie70
24-05-2021, 06:52 PM
BBC can’t do anything else now. It’s massively on the back foot and heavily under attack. It will now become a propaganda tool for the Conservative party.


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Like it wasn't already

Jack
24-05-2021, 07:37 PM
BBC can’t do anything else now. It’s massively on the back foot and heavily under attack. It will now become a propaganda tool for the Conservative party.


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Tim Davie who was recently installed as the BBC chairman, former tory activist, former boss of Sunak, who has donated £400,000 to the tory party.

He's come out with statements that it would be improper for the BBC to criticise the government and stands accused of binning the Mash Report because it was too left wing.

Nobody can have any doubts, if there ever were any, that the BBC does its masters bidding.

cabbageandribs1875
24-05-2021, 09:44 PM
Tories vote down Labour's amendment bill to clamp down on tax avoidance, they're officially the tax dodgers party now...:agree:

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/190153195_2437244949752661_7988643229987869922_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=QGVXDAe09V0AX-kT08T&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=22c7a80157bb0257d0061dd4c9969565&oe=60D18477

degenerated
25-05-2021, 04:56 AM
BBC can’t do anything else now. It’s massively on the back foot and heavily under attack. It will now become a propaganda tool for the Conservative party.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIt's been told by the culture secretary to promote great British values or lose its funding

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/oliver-dowden-on-the-bbc-in-the-times-7995528



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lapsedhibee
25-05-2021, 05:16 AM
It's been told by the culture secretary to promote great British values or lose its funding

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/oliver-dowden-on-the-bbc-in-the-times-7995528



Oh ffs, not this pish about "British values" again, as if British values are any different from Belgian values.

bigwheel
25-05-2021, 05:28 AM
Oh ffs, not this pish about "British values" again, as if British values are any different from Belgian values.

going by our Westminster government our values seem to be :

Lying
Xenophobia
Elitism and
Cronyism

JimBHibees
25-05-2021, 05:46 AM
Oh ffs, not this pish about "British values" again, as if British values are any different from Belgian values.

Yep complete nonsense. The values of a Victorian age empire don't really work or maybe they do when you look round the world at xenophobic populists running many countries. Sad times

Kato
25-05-2021, 08:12 AM
going by our Westminster government our values seem to be :

Lying
Xenophobia
Elitism and
CronyismThat's their actions, the values they pretend to have are the opposite.

Somehow, people seem to believe them.

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SHODAN
25-05-2021, 09:09 AM
Tories vote down Labour's amendment bill to clamp down on tax avoidance, they're officially the tax dodgers party now...:agree:

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/190153195_2437244949752661_7988643229987869922_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=QGVXDAe09V0AX-kT08T&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=22c7a80157bb0257d0061dd4c9969565&oe=60D18477

The Eton boys want to turn us into the world's premier tax haven. No real surprise there.

Hibernia&Alba
25-05-2021, 04:30 PM
Institutionally Islamophobic. Will the right wing media go berserk, in the same way they did with allegations of anti-Semitism within Labour?


https://youtu.be/U1kvyxBVjSY

Bristolhibby
25-05-2021, 05:42 PM
Institutionally Islamophobic. Will the right wing media go berserk, in the same way they did with allegations of anti-Semitism within Labour?


https://youtu.be/U1kvyxBVjSY

Not a sausage.

J

Bostonhibby
25-05-2021, 07:45 PM
The Eton boys want to turn us into the world's premier tax haven. No real surprise there.It'll save all that unpredictable off shoring stuff where you're dependant on dodgy corrupt politicians in far away places to dodge paying tax if you can rely on dodgy corruption politicians you can control at home, especially if you are one of them.

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Moulin Yarns
26-05-2021, 09:54 AM
The skeletons are fighting their way out of the closet.


Cummings says Matt Hancock should have been fired for 10 or 15 things, and he and Cabinet Sec told the PM as much, he says many people at senior levels disastrously failed

Moulin Yarns
26-05-2021, 09:56 AM
'Let's have chicken pox parties so people catch Covid' - what Mark Sedwill, Cab Sec, said - Cummings

-1,000 people in Italy had already died of Covid

Devastating

Moulin Yarns
26-05-2021, 10:00 AM
#DomCom reaches a crescendo
@CommonsSTC asks "Should people be worried about #CorporateManslaughter charges?"
#Dominicummimgs replies
#Quote "The PM should be Fired" @BorisJohnson https://t.co/UQRg9vED2i


Who knew that Dominic Cummings could tell the truth 😉

SHODAN
26-05-2021, 10:11 AM
Disaster for the government. Polling between them and Labour will only widen by 2 or 3 this week.

Future17
26-05-2021, 10:17 AM
#DomCom reaches a crescendo
@CommonsSTC asks "Should people be worried about #CorporateManslaughter charges?"
#Dominicummimgs replies
#Quote "The PM should be Fired" @BorisJohnson https://t.co/UQRg9vED2i


Who knew that Dominic Cummings could tell the truth 😉

That's the big question isn't it? Which of the fundamentally untrustworthy individuals involved do you trust more?

lapsedhibee
26-05-2021, 10:17 AM
Disaster for the government. Polling between them and Labour will only widen by 2 or 3 this week.

Doesn't really matter what Cummings says, the government will just lie their way out of anything awkward.

Crunchie
26-05-2021, 10:25 AM
#DomCom reaches a crescendo
@CommonsSTC asks "Should people be worried about #CorporateManslaughter charges?"
#Dominicummimgs replies
#Quote "The PM should be Fired" @BorisJohnson https://t.co/UQRg9vED2i


Who knew that Dominic Cummings could tell the truth 😉
You believe what he says now that it suits you? :faf:

Moulin Yarns
26-05-2021, 10:26 AM
You believe what he says now that it suits you? :faf:

Did you miss the winking face 🙄

Kato
26-05-2021, 10:31 AM
You believe what he says now that it suits you? :faf:Is it anything that wasnt known anyway? The Govt initially hummed and hawed whilst dropping hints of a cackhanded version of herd immunity. Johnson appeared on TV saying CV19 should be allowed to sweep through the population i.e. they wanted to do nothing about it at all.

All baldychops is doing is adding in detail. He's probably got the proof as well given how weasley he is.

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Jones28
26-05-2021, 10:37 AM
Cummings working through the cabinet giving everyone a kicking.

Northernhibee
26-05-2021, 10:51 AM
This is ****ing mental. Protecting Rishi Sunak quite obviously, but this is the nuclear option being pushed.

It just comes down to how much you believe from him.

Ozyhibby
26-05-2021, 10:54 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210526/57ad9c011616d5e17fa091baa1c24cff.jpg


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Kato
26-05-2021, 11:05 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210526/57ad9c011616d5e17fa091baa1c24cff.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHa!

The most Orwellian aspect of this Govts tenure is how easily "the masses" fall in line.

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cabbageandribs1875
26-05-2021, 11:17 AM
i'm not listening but did the BBC start muting/switch channels when he was naming who he kept leaking to....Kuenssberg :greengrin

Card5hark 🌍 🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 on Twitter: "Here is video of the BBC coverage of the moment Dominic Cummings names Laura Kuenssberg as the media person he kept leaking to. https://t.co/NRP6REAv17" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/Card5hark/status/1397499553809670147?s=19&fbclid=IwAR1P6p5S406-1a5tuWzh5eDr09eqDREugbG__XiKM_puGojoT6M0Bg-chd0)

Moulin Yarns
26-05-2021, 11:24 AM
@iandunt is worth following for the best updates

Colr
26-05-2021, 11:26 AM
Cummings working through the cabinet giving everyone a kicking.

I agree with him wholeheartedly about the English political system being utterly unfit for purpose. I mean! Johnson or Corby? FFS!

Jones28
26-05-2021, 11:28 AM
I agree with him wholeheartedly about the English political system being utterly unfit for purpose. I mean! Johnson or Corby? FFS!

:agree:

Jones28
26-05-2021, 11:29 AM
This is ****ing mental. Protecting Rishi Sunak quite obviously, but this is the nuclear option being pushed.

It just comes down to how much you believe from him.

Isn't he giving this under oath?

I don't know how much it really counts but it seems a lot more serious to me than Hancock and his crocodile tears on GMB.

Mon Dieu4
26-05-2021, 11:49 AM
Isn't he giving this under oath?

I don't know how much it really counts but it seems a lot more serious to me than Hancock and his crocodile tears on GMB.

He seems to have evidence to back up lots of his claims from the bits I've seen so far

Hibrandenburg
26-05-2021, 11:55 AM
You believe what he says now that it suits you? :faf:

Even serial liars tell the truth occasionally, normally when it suits there agenda. That said, I wouldn't trust Cummings as far as I could throw him, which is slightly better than how far I could spit Johnson.

Whatever you think of Cummings or Johnson, these revelations are seriously concerning.

Northernhibee
26-05-2021, 12:07 PM
Even serial liars tell the truth occasionally, normally when it suits there agenda. That said, I wouldn't trust Cummings as far as I could throw him, which is slightly better than how far I could spit Johnson.

Whatever you think of Cummings or Johnson, these revelations are seriously concerning.
Either Johnson is lying through his teeth or he’s had someone in a position of influence who is a massive liar, or both. Nobody comes out of this well.

Hibrandenburg
26-05-2021, 12:10 PM
Either Johnson is lying through his teeth or he’s had someone in a position of influence who is a massive liar, or both. Nobody comes out of this well.

Especially Starmer, he'll end up carrying the can.

Hiber-nation
26-05-2021, 12:10 PM
Even serial liars tell the truth occasionally, normally when it suits there agenda. That said, I wouldn't trust Cummings as far as I could throw him, which is slightly better than how far I could spit Johnson.

Whatever you think of Cummings or Johnson, these revelations are seriously concerning.

Cummings can't be lying, there are loads of witnesses and I'd doubt if every one is going to come out and say he's made it up.

Northernhibee
26-05-2021, 12:18 PM
We really are governed by a right bunch of *****. Advised by *****.

Northernhibee
26-05-2021, 12:37 PM
"With [Marcus] Rashford, the director of comms said to the PM - twice - don't pick a fight with Rashford. The PM decided to pick a fight and then surrendered twice."

hibsbollah
26-05-2021, 01:00 PM
Institutionally Islamophobic. Will the right wing media go berserk, in the same way they did with allegations of anti-Semitism within Labour?


https://youtu.be/U1kvyxBVjSY

I wish they did say that, but sadly the enquiry found that there was NO evidence of institutional Islamophobia in the Tory party. Which is a joke since the ****ing LEADER of said party was making jokes about letter boxes and terrorists. As you say, the gulf between that and with what Corbyn actually said and did, and how he is now basically a meme for anti semitism is just disgusting.

Bangkok Hibby
26-05-2021, 01:01 PM
He's just confirming what I've thought of Hancock since day 1. A lying, incompetent, self serving piece of tory ****. The ******* should be jailed!

Moulin Yarns
26-05-2021, 01:16 PM
Dominic Cummings says "it had already been decided I was going to move my family out of London regardless of the Covid rules" because of security threats against them

He says when the story came out, he and the PM agreed to stonewall it due to security

https://t.co/5j5uTmucd0 https://t.co/MwlXvzXJNa

So which one was it? Childcare or security?

Northernhibee
26-05-2021, 02:06 PM
Thing is, sure as night follows day is that Boris will escape from this unscathed.

Colr
26-05-2021, 02:41 PM
Thing is, sure as night follows day is that Boris will escape from this unscathed.

English people will support him in even higher numbers. They just can’t help tugging the forelock and bending the knee to anyone with a posh accent and demeanour. It’s just a reflection of the class system which seems to have re-established itself.

Santa Cruz
26-05-2021, 03:37 PM
Thing is, sure as night follows day is that Boris will escape from this unscathed.

That's a cert. Hancock will be the scapegoat for the entire Gov. Cummings will be painted as an aggrieved ex employee who got the boot. I don't trust the Tory's, I don't trust Cummings either, if he had a shred of integrity he would have walked and talked much sooner. The truth will lay somewhere in the middle with much of what he is spilling imo.

Northernhibee
26-05-2021, 03:47 PM
That's a cert. Hancock will be the scapegoat for the entire Gov. Cummings will be painted as an aggrieved ex employee who got the boot. I don't trust the Tory's, I don't trust Cummings either, if he had a shred of integrity he would have walked and talked much sooner. The truth will lay somewhere in the middle with much of what he is spilling imo.
Nah, Hancock will be safe too. It’s the Tory way.

Kato
26-05-2021, 04:00 PM
Nah, Hancock will be safe too. It’s the Tory way.Hancock probably knows far more the Cummings does so will be safe from the sack.

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Jack
26-05-2021, 05:01 PM
Nah, Hancock will be safe too. It’s the Tory way.

A seat in the Lords.

Moulin Yarns
26-05-2021, 05:11 PM
A seat in the Lords.

He can have Ruth on his knee 😉

Now that you can’t unsee that image 😁

hibsbollah
26-05-2021, 07:14 PM
Starmer looks and sounds like he’s meekly following Cummings in finally getting stuck into Johnson, although not being as critical or as incisive and without any genuine enthusiasm for it. And being led by events. Dominic ****ing Cummings playing a new role of leader of the opposition :faf:

18 months ago this kind of spectacle would be unimaginable. The whole political system is in disarray.

JeMeSouviens
26-05-2021, 07:37 PM
Notable that Johnson’s likely successors, Sunak and Gove, both got off scot free. Despite both being at the heart of decision making and Sunak actually inviting the deniers in to argue against a 2nd lockdown.

Can only mean Dom thinks he’s coming back. :dunno:

hibsbollah
26-05-2021, 08:19 PM
Notable that Johnson’s likely successors, Sunak and Gove, both got off scot free. Despite both being at the heart of decision making and Sunak actually inviting the deniers in to argue against a 2nd lockdown.

Can only mean Dom thinks he’s coming back. :dunno:

Cummings did leave a bit on Sunak as well, but he barely mentioned Gove through the whole seven hours. He’s waiting in the wings and is being primed to take over the project, without a doubt.

Pretty Boy
26-05-2021, 08:41 PM
Cummings is and always has been Gove's man (or maybe vice versa). He was never incriminating him.

Hancock was set up as the fall guy from about March 1st last year, I'm stunned he's lasted this long but he might be useful if there is an imminent enquiry.

Sunak got off fairly lightly. It was his flip flopping and tardiness in continuing furlough that led to some of the riskiest behaviour last autumn.

Johnson was incriminated as a total **** but we all knew that about him anyway.

Cummings is a devious sort. I think he has told a version of the truth but it's his truth. He's dangerous.

He's here!
26-05-2021, 09:46 PM
Since when was Dominic Cummings such a stickler for protocol?!

What a joke. His 'revelations' are only marginally more newsworthy than that farce around what sort of wallpaper Johnson's girlfriend bought. So people in government fall out, some of them can't stand each other and the UK, like most of the world, wasn't well enough prepared for a global pandemic. How about telling us something anyone with even the vaguest interest in current affairs didn't already know?

Jilted ex-employee sticks it to his former employers is what this amounts to. Cummings is a crafty (and, admittedly, highly successful) campaigner to have on your side but sounds like he was a loose cannon when trying to help run the country.

Callum_62
26-05-2021, 10:15 PM
Since when was Dominic Cummings such a stickler for protocol?!

What a joke. His 'revelations' are only marginally more newsworthy than that farce around what sort of wallpaper Johnson's girlfriend bought. So people in government fall out, some of them can't stand each other and the UK, like most of the world, wasn't well enough prepared for a global pandemic. How about telling us something anyone with even the vaguest interest in current affairs didn't already know?

Jilted ex-employee sticks it to his former employers is what this amounts to. Cummings is a crafty (and, admittedly, highly successful) campaigner to have on your side but sounds like he was a loose cannon when trying to help run the country.

I think your playing down the death toll we experienced here by calling it simply a jilted ex exployee



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Andy Bee
26-05-2021, 10:27 PM
Cummings is and always has been Gove's man (or maybe vice versa). He was never incriminating him.

Hancock was set up as the fall guy from about March 1st last year, I'm stunned he's lasted this long but he might be useful if there is an imminent enquiry.

Sunak got off fairly lightly. It was his flip flopping and tardiness in continuing furlough that led to some of the riskiest behaviour last autumn.

Johnson was incriminated as a total **** but we all knew that about him anyway.

Cummings is a devious sort. I think he has told a version of the truth but it's his truth. He's dangerous.


Hancock is probably in the strongest position he's ever been in since the start, if he's sacked or demoted then that's the Government admitting everything Cummings said is true, Hancock is here for the duration now sadly.

Santa Cruz
26-05-2021, 10:41 PM
Hancock is probably in the strongest position he's ever been in since the start, if he's sacked or demoted then that's the Government admitting everything Cummings said is true, Hancock is here for the duration now sadly.

He could resign, just like the Lord Advocate.

Andy Bee
26-05-2021, 10:50 PM
He could resign, just like the Lord Advocate.

I wouldn't be surprised if he did offer his resignation only for BJ to decline it and bolster his position even more. I don't think he has the balls for it though.

Ozyhibby
26-05-2021, 11:03 PM
Hancock is probably in the strongest position he's ever been in since the start, if he's sacked or demoted then that's the Government admitting everything Cummings said is true, Hancock is here for the duration now sadly.

From a selfish point of view, Hancock doesn’t really affect things here in Scotland and all that extra money he wastes on his mates with massive PPE contracts means more Barnett consequential for us.


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Northernhibee
27-05-2021, 05:31 AM
Older people from the north of England being interviewed on the news, giving it the “they tried their best”, “it’s easy to act in hindsight” and “we’re the best country at vaccinating people”.

We’re absolutely doomed and these fuds are complicit in what this government are doing.

Hibernia&Alba
27-05-2021, 06:21 AM
https://youtu.be/36blF51LPRY

hibsbollah
27-05-2021, 06:41 AM
Older people from the north of England being interviewed on the news, giving it the “they tried their best”, “it’s easy to act in hindsight” and “we’re the best country at vaccinating people”.

We’re absolutely doomed and these fuds are complicit in what this government are doing.

Why should they think any different when they’re being told that nobody could realistically have done any better?

Crunchie
27-05-2021, 07:19 AM
Older people from the north of England being interviewed on the news, giving it the “they tried their best”, “it’s easy to act in hindsight” and “we’re the best country at vaccinating people”.

We’re absolutely doomed and these fuds are complicit in what this government are doing.
James Frazer lives on :rolleyes:

Bostonhibby
27-05-2021, 07:25 AM
Older people from the north of England being interviewed on the news, giving it the “they tried their best”, “it’s easy to act in hindsight” and “we’re the best country at vaccinating people”.

We’re absolutely doomed and these fuds are complicit in what this government are doing.Did they mention that our death toll per 100,000 has always been very high only because we are an island?

Very popular around here.

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Kato
27-05-2021, 08:02 AM
Why should they think any different when they’re being told that nobody could realistically have done any better?Weird narrative being developed that there wasnt a plan when there was a plan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_Cygnus


https://i.ibb.co/5cfybLq/20210526-132132.jpg (https://ibb.co/dKzq8Dn)

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Killiehibbie
27-05-2021, 08:08 AM
Weird narrative being developed that there wasnt a plan when there was a plan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_Cygnus


https://i.ibb.co/5cfybLq/20210526-132132.jpg (https://ibb.co/dKzq8Dn)

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But it was the wrong kind of pandemic and the plan was useless.

Bostonhibby
27-05-2021, 08:56 AM
Has a Nasty party ring to it...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210527/1051fdab8473a757045ddd2464c25dd2.jpg

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Renfrew_Hibby
27-05-2021, 09:40 AM
But it was the wrong kind of pandemic and the plan was useless.

Could it be there was a plan (there definitely was) but Johnson, Cummings ect thought that it would be unpopular with the public (Johnsons main focus is to remain popular) and so went of on a tangent with a scattergun approach.

So the weird narrative that is now being put forward is to cover up yet another, possibly the most serious failure of the lot. That is not following the plan that was already there.

Hibrandenburg
27-05-2021, 10:08 AM
Could it be there was a plan (there definitely was) but Johnson, Cummings ect thought that it would be unpopular with the public (Johnsons main focus is to remain popular) and so went of on a tangent with a scattergun approach.

So the weird narrative that is now being put forward is to cover up yet another, possibly the most serious failure of the lot. That is not following the plan that was already there.

I certainly didn't have the feeling that there was a UK plan being implemented. Instead I witnessed the UK half-heartedly copying other measures taken by other countries but much later. The exception was the procurement of vaccines.

Tyler Durden
27-05-2021, 10:25 AM
Weird narrative being developed that there wasnt a plan when there was a plan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_Cygnus


https://i.ibb.co/5cfybLq/20210526-132132.jpg (https://ibb.co/dKzq8Dn)

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The likes of Dominic Raab admitted at the time he hadn't read the bl**dy thing!

Kato
27-05-2021, 10:27 AM
The likes of Dominic Raab admitted at the time he hadn't read the bl**dy thing!Yes, I remember that. Now they are forgetting it existed.

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Killiehibbie
27-05-2021, 10:30 AM
Could it be there was a plan (there definitely was) but Johnson, Cummings ect thought that it would be unpopular with the public (Johnsons main focus is to remain popular) and so went of on a tangent with a scattergun approach.

So the weird narrative that is now being put forward is to cover up yet another, possibly the most serious failure of the lot. That is not following the plan that was already there.

There most definitely was a Pandemic Plan that they abandoned and decided to make it up as they went. The excuse was that it was only for flu.
I always imagined the basics would be the same and could be adjusted for a different disease. Looks like Singapore maybe managed to work that out.

Moulin Yarns
27-05-2021, 10:31 AM
Yes, I remember that. Now they are forgetting it existed.

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That's the brainfog associated with Covid :wink:

Kato
27-05-2021, 11:32 AM
There most definitely was a Pandemic Plan that they abandoned and decided to make it up as they went. The excuse was that it was only for flu.

Looking at that wiki link it was for flu, a fictional "Swan Flu", hence Cygnus, which was far more virulent and deadly than CV19. So their plan was for something worse, but ignored nonetheless.

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Radium
27-05-2021, 10:43 PM
https://twitter.com/lbc/status/1397885626456944640?s=21


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JimBHibees
28-05-2021, 06:11 AM
https://twitter.com/lbc/status/1397885626456944640?s=21


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That kind of hits home the personal tragedies all over the country that are in many ways being completely ignored imo deliberately by the media. It soon became all about numbers with little or no thought given to the dead or grieving friends and families that the complete incompetence and corruption caused in the last year of so. The same charlatan is then able to make crass comments about piles of bodies being preferable to another lockdown. Seems he is untouchable as imo a Labour pm doing similar would have been forced from office. This country is such a very dangerous and corrupt ****show at the moment.

cabbageandribs1875
28-05-2021, 11:40 PM
That kind of hits home the personal tragedies all over the country that are in many ways being completely ignored imo deliberately by the media. It soon became all about numbers with little or no thought given to the dead or grieving friends and families that the complete incompetence and corruption caused in the last year of so. The same charlatan is then able to make crass comments about piles of bodies being preferable to another lockdown. Seems he is untouchable as imo a Labour pm doing similar would have been forced from office. This country is such a very dangerous and corrupt ****show at the moment.


i fear it will get worse, much worse

cabbageandribs1875
28-05-2021, 11:41 PM
https://twitter.com/lbc/status/1397885626456944640?s=21


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2:50-3:10 absolutely spot on

Bangkok Hibby
29-05-2021, 12:59 AM
Wow that is powerful, a difficult listen. The truly sad thing though is some of the comments. I'm so glad I'm no longer part of this **** show of a country.

Hibrandenburg
30-05-2021, 12:11 AM
So Boris is a Tim, that should put the cat amongst the pigeons within the loyalist community.

hibsbollah
30-05-2021, 06:33 AM
So Boris is a Tim, that should put the cat amongst the pigeons within the loyalist community.

He’s a catholic. I bet he also ****s in the woods.

Hibrandenburg
30-05-2021, 07:43 AM
He’s a catholic. I bet he also ****s in the woods.

Cool, a Catholic Bear, I guess that's progress.

Bostonhibby
30-05-2021, 07:52 AM
He’s a catholic. I bet he also ****s in the woods.He's a protestant, catholic, Sikh, Muslim, hindu, atheist who supports celtc, sevco, liverpool, Everton, Chelsea and Spurs.

Whichever way the mob seems to be running he'll get to the front and shout follow me.

Dangerous unprincipled liar.

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