Tories are still lying *******s

[cabbageandribs1875]

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[grunt]

Gavin Williamson knighted.

[Ozyhibby]

Gavin Williamson knighted.

Is this the best Scotland can hope for?


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[ronaldo7]

Gavin Williamson knighted.

I wish we had him in post now. He could just tell Russia to go away and shut up.

[wookie70]

I listen to his podcast, very funny, he’s slightly to the Left of Jeremy Corbyn so may not be to everyone’s taste on here :whistle:

Must be slightly to the right of me, must give him a listen

[cabbageandribs1875]

what a slice of luck that was for the mogg, eh

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[Kato]

Sir Gavin Williamson? They're just trolling now.

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[Hiber-nation]

Gavin Williamson knighted.

What has he got on Johnson? Or anyone else? But would he even be capable of spilling any beans he has? Hopefully Queenie will ask him what he's done to deserve it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60609646

[Bostonhibby]

It's beginning to look like the ability to repeat three word slogans to an idiot base doesn't prepare you for handling complex international relations at all!Get handling complex international relations done.

That's three isn't it? It's hard work leading the entire western effort against Russia.

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[Kato]

What has he got on Johnson? Or anyone else?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60609646

"Under cross-examination, I had to explain how I obtained the emails. It's a matter of court record - & therefore reportable - that source believed that person who tipped off Tice about Banks's Russian connections was...drum roll...Gavin Williamson, then sec of defence
6/ "

https://t.co/3hwkz0Viw4

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[greenginger]

what a slice of luck that was for the mogg, eh

A

Any financial analyst or investment fund manager who did not offload Russian linked assets does not deserve to be employed.

Virtually every company has done it. Another none story.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Dr Tim Kinsella #FBPA #FBPE on Twitter: "Just hearing on @BBCNews that Putin can throw people into jail for up to 8 yrs, just for protesting on the streets Here, in the U.K., under the new Policing Bill, it could be up to 10 yrs Let that sink in" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/51TJK/status/1499375327423913984?s=19&fbclid=IwAR1Oxu-IT-9ACC-O7MPH_TBlWPohT-aA5DyrdxnpUoT4JWwn5KhU03Q5J7M)

indeed, let this sink in :agree: TORY Britain






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[lapsedhibee]

"Under cross-examination, I had to explain how I obtained the emails. It's a matter of court record - & therefore reportable - that source believed that person who tipped off Tice about Banks's Russian connections was...drum roll...Gavin Williamson, then sec of defence
6/ "

https://t.co/3hwkz0Viw4


FFS. If Banks was acting as an agent for Russian state, does that make it possible that his best bud Farage was as well? Or maybe Farage was just living off the proceeds.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Sir Gavin Williamson? They're just trolling now.

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i suspect every member of Johnsons government will get a knighthood


i didn't realise blunder boy had made so many gaffes

Gavin Williamson's Biggest Gaffes As Ex-Tory Minister Awarded A Knighthood (yahoo.com) (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/gavin-williamsons-biggest-gaffes-ex-183408335.html)

my fav for now...

Heckled By His PhoneIn 2018, Williamson was attempting to deliver a speech on Isis in the Middle East when a voice coming from his jacket pocket interrupted proceedings.
In what the Mirror (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-gavin-williamson-heckled-phone-12844663) suggested was probably the first speech to parliament by an artificial intelligence assistant, Siri could be heard saying: “Hi Gavin, I found something on the web for: ‘In Syria, democratic forces supported by…’”
Williamson told MPs: “I’m not sure what caused that intervention, but I do apologise for that.

[hibsbollah]

Sir Gavin Williamson? They're just trolling now.

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****

[Northernhibee]

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1499482812889681921

Fascinating thread about Williamsons knighthood and Russian money in the Tory party.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1499482812889681921

Fascinating thread about Williamsons knighthood and Russian money in the Tory party.


the stench of the Tory party is getting smellier by the day, and he took 30K in donations from the Russian arm of the nasty party

if only the press wasn't 80% Tory owned

[cabbageandribs1875]

String of Lords defeats reflects concerns over PM and legislation | House of Lords | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/mar/02/string-of-lords-defeats-reflects-concerns-over-pm-and-legislation)

Analysis: Peers have inflicted greatest number of defeats on government in single parliamentary session since 1975-76

Another problem for Johnson, she said, is that a large number of Conservative peers are not happy with the prime minister in the aftermath of partygate allegations and no longer identify with the party’s leadership or culture.
“These are very strange times politically. A Brexiter Tory member told me the other day: ‘This isn’t the Conservative party that I joined, I am very uncomfortable with the changes.’ There is a general unhappiness and malaise on their backbenches,” Smith said.
One cross-bench peer, who is no fan of Johnson, pointed out that many of his appointments were not showing up to vote. He gave the example of Evgeny Lebedev (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/21/parties-politics-peerages-boris-johnson-evgeny-lebedev-friendship), the Russian son of a KGB officer and owner of the Evening Standard and the Independent. He was elevated to the Lords in July 2020 but has not voted yet or made a single contribution in the chamber.


not happy, they should be utterly repulsed

[CropleyWasGod]

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1499482812889681921

Fascinating thread about Williamsons knighthood and Russian money in the Tory party.

It's all very LeCarre. I hope she gets the opportunity to publish it somewhere, and in terms that people can properly understand.

[Kato]

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1499482812889681921

Fascinating thread about Williamsons knighthood and Russian money in the Tory party.The Issbelle Oakeshott deposition is a new thing.

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[Jack]

Ben Elliot, Co-Chair of Tory Pary and nephew to Camila (Parker-Bowles) Consort to Prince Charles,founded and directs a company called Quintessentially. It has recently deleted its webpage on what they do for Russia's elite.
https://quintessentially.com/worldwide

But you can still access that page via the WayBackMachine,
https://web.archive.org/web/20210125172802/https://www.quintessentially.com/worldwide/global-offices/moscow

[Steven79]

Is this the best Scotland can hope for?


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[hibsbollah]

Where’s the full Sue Gray report?
Where’s the Islamophobia report?
Where’s the Foreign interference in elections report?

Where is the press scrutiny at the absence of these reports?

[degenerated]

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1499482812889681921

Fascinating thread about Williamsons knighthood and Russian money in the Tory party.Amazing the rabbit holes you can fall into when reading through these things. Some interesting reading here, which is where I ended up from that thread.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/heidiblake/from-russia-with-blood-14-suspected-hits-on-british-soil



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[ronaldo7]

Amazing the rabbit holes you can fall into when reading through these things. Some interesting reading here, which is where I ended up from that thread.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/heidiblake/from-russia-with-blood-14-suspected-hits-on-british-soil



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The cover up continues...

[degenerated]

The cover up continues...Thankfully I'm off work as there is some amount of reading in that BuzzFeed link

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[ronaldo7]

Thankfully I'm off work as there is some amount of reading in that BuzzFeed link

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It's phenomenal.

The amount of murders carried out, and the police interpretation of events. WOW!

[ronaldo7]

CALLS for proper scrutiny of political donations are mounting amid revelations the Conservative party was handed almost £100,000 in donations by a Scottish “dark money” trust in 2021.

I don't think Ruth or Dougie will comment on this.

[degenerated]

It's phenomenal.

The amount of murders carried out, and the police interpretation of events. WOW!This all sounds familiar

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-60608132

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[ronaldo7]

Pray for Sue Gray, wherever she is.

[degenerated]

CALLS for proper scrutiny of political donations are mounting amid revelations the Conservative party was handed almost £100,000 in donations by a Scottish “dark money” trust in 2021.

I don't think Ruth or Dougie will comment on this.The ferret have been trying to get in about this for a good few years, without much success.

https://theferret.scot/tag/scottish-unionist-association-trust/

Wouldn't be at all surprised if there was russian money swilling about the Scottish Tory branch, seem to remember the likes of Temerko being very anti Scottish independence.

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[Kato]

+UPDATE+

Boris Johnson slashes spending on govt unit tasked with investigating Russian corruption.

https://t.co/M8v9647BJu

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[Kato]

And at the same time as the above....

+UPDATE+

+UPDATE+

Pro Russian Conservative party lobby group is being disbanded.

The “Westminster Russian forum”, previously “Conservative friends of Russia” which lobbied for pro Russia funding for cash for Conservative MPs & party operations is being wound up.

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[lapsedhibee]

And at the same time as the above....

+UPDATE+

+UPDATE+

Pro Russian Conservative party lobby group is being disbanded.

The “Westminster Russian forum”, previously “Conservative friends of Russia” which lobbied for pro Russia funding for cash for Conservative MPs & party operations is being wound up.


What are the chances that, in the fullness of time, judges, GPs, etc, won't anymore be referred to as enemies of the British people/traitors but Farage and Johnson will? :dunno:

[hibsbollah]

And at the same time as the above....

+UPDATE+

+UPDATE+

Pro Russian Conservative party lobby group is being disbanded.

The “Westminster Russian forum”, previously “Conservative friends of Russia” which lobbied for pro Russia funding for cash for Conservative MPs & party operations is being wound up.

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Just so we’re clear on the names, and we don’t forget; Chair Nicholas Cobb, as well as a Tory MP is a ‘Russian Energy consultant’, it included Caroline Nokes, John Redwood, Andrew Barrand, Malcolm Rifkind, and many others, Labours Jack Straw was also involved.

[Kato]

Just so we’re clear on the names, and we don’t forget; Chair Nicholas Cobb, as well as a Tory MP is a ‘Russian Energy consultant’, it included Caroline Nokes, John Redwood, Andrew Barrand, Malcolm Rifkind, and many others, Labours Jack Straw was also involved.Carrie Johnson nee Symonds in there as well.

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[DaveF]

Don't forget poor daniel kawczynski. I mean, how is going to pay for his kids education now?

[hibsbollah]

Don't forget poor daniel kawczynski. I mean, how is going to pay for his kids education now?

MPs kids in ‘Having to Attend Local Comprehensive Due to Lack of Russian Brown Envelope Backhander’ Horror :agree:

[degenerated]

Just so we’re clear on the names, and we don’t forget; Chair Nicholas Cobb, as well as a Tory MP is a ‘Russian Energy consultant’, it included Caroline Nokes, John Redwood, Andrew Barrand, Malcolm Rifkind, and many others, Labours Jack Straw was also involved.Shredders will be going full tilt and hard drives being cleansed.



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[degenerated]

World leading sanctions against Russia from the UK

https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1499752553810214916?t=pHlEfIJ-4rDllRTSOFS4BQ&s=19

[hibsbollah]

World leading sanctions against Russia from the UK

https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1499752553810214916?t=pHlEfIJ-4rDllRTSOFS4BQ&s=19

They’re beating the Emirates.

[degenerated]

They’re beating the Emirates.Can you imagine the fuss the UK government would have caused about sanctions if we were still in EU.

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[Kato]

Can you imagine the fuss the UK government would have caused about sanctions if we were still in EU.

Sent from my CPH2009 using TapatalkGreat timing that we left then, totally by coincidence of course.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

i knew this wee creep would have accepted a donation as well :agree:

Defence Secretary Received Funding for Private Party from Law Firm Lobbying for Putin’s Sanctioned Banks – Byline Times (https://bylinetimes.com/2022/03/04/defence-secretary-received-funding-for-private-party-from-law-firm-lobbying-for-putins-sanctioned-banks/)

Defence Secretary Ben Wallace received funding for a private party from a global law firm that lobbied on behalf of the sanctioned Russian bank Gazprombank – a donation defended by the UK’s Ministry of Defence as “nothing odd”, Byline Times can reveal.
Wallace is one of four Conservative MPs with financial links to the legal giant Squire Patton Boggs, which represents Gazprombank and two other sanctioned Russian banks Sberbank and VTB Bank.

[Bostonhibby]

i knew this wee creep would have accepted a donation as well :agree:

Defence Secretary Received Funding for Private Party from Law Firm Lobbying for Putin’s Sanctioned Banks – Byline Times (https://bylinetimes.com/2022/03/04/defence-secretary-received-funding-for-private-party-from-law-firm-lobbying-for-putins-sanctioned-banks/)

Defence Secretary Ben Wallace received funding for a private party from a global law firm that lobbied on behalf of the sanctioned Russian bank Gazprombank – a donation defended by the UK’s Ministry of Defence as “nothing odd”, Byline Times can reveal.
Wallace is one of four Conservative MPs with financial links to the legal giant Squire Patton Boggs, which represents Gazprombank and two other sanctioned Russian banks Sberbank and VTB Bank.EU countries seizing yachts without warning.

UK seizing not much yet,but finally warning any oligarch that needs yet another opportunity to protect and move assets, that we are intending to bring forward legislation on Monday, couple more days of grace and god knows how long to implement the legislation if Ben and the rest of them really have any motivation to move from talking to doing.

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[Keith_M]

It's phenomenal.

The amount of murders carried out, and the police interpretation of events. WOW!


CIA: These are suspected assassinations by Russian security services

MI6: These are suspected assassinations by Russian security services

Metropolitan Police: Nothing to see here, move along now.

[Radium]

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[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/Sathnam/status/1500057765250805762?t=jbMAVDMUtmc5JhDbkuJ9hA&s=19

What a govt we have likes. Top notch

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[degenerated]

https://twitter.com/Sathnam/status/1500057765250805762?t=jbMAVDMUtmc5JhDbkuJ9hA&s=19

What a govt we have likes. Top notch

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkWilliamson clearly holds the kompromat

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[greenginger]

https://twitter.com/Sathnam/status/1500057765250805762?t=jbMAVDMUtmc5JhDbkuJ9hA&s=19

What a govt we have likes. Top notch

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Who the hell is Sathnam Sangera ? How did she get private Downing St. acknowledgments ?

I guess some folk make up anything just to get twitter likes and a few followers.

Pathetic !

[degenerated]

Who the hell is Sathnam Sangera ? How did she get private Downing St. acknowledgments ?

I guess some folk make up anything just to get twitter likes and a few followers.

Pathetic !He is a writer for the Times, so probably does have contacts within downing Street.

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[greenginger]

He is a writer for the Times, so probably does have contacts within downing Street.

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The cat maybe :greengrin

[grunt]

Who the hell is Sathnam Sangera ? How did she get private Downing St. acknowledgments ?

I guess some folk make up anything just to get twitter likes and a few followers.

Pathetic !
Well someone is being pathetic ...




Young Journalist of the Year at the British Press Awards (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Press_Awards), 2002.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathnam_Sanghera#cite_note-Biog-2)
Article of the Year in the 2005 Management Today (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_Today) Writing Awards.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathnam_Sanghera#cite_note-Biog-2)
Newspaper Feature of the Year, Workworld Media Awards.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathnam_Sanghera#cite_note-Biog-2)
Journalist of the Year, Watson Wyatt Awards, 2006 and 2009.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathnam_Sanghera#cite_note-Biog-2)
Shortlisted for the Costa Biography Award, 2009
Shortlisted for the PEN/Ackerley Prize (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEN/Ackerley_Prize), 2009.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathnam_Sanghera#cite_note-Biog-2)
Winner, Mind Book of the Year, 2009.[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathnam_Sanghera#cite_note-11)
Honorary Doctor of Letters for services to journalism, University of Wolverhampton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Wolverhampton), September 2009.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathnam_Sanghera#cite_note-Biog-2)
President's Medal, Royal College of Psychiatrists (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_College_of_Psychiatrists), 2010.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathnam_Sanghera#cite_note-Biog-2)
Costa Book Awards (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Costa_Book_Awards) (First Novel) shortlisted for Marriage Material[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathnam_Sanghera#cite_note-12)

[Callum_62]

Who the hell is Sathnam Sangera ? How did she get private Downing St. acknowledgments ?

I guess some folk make up anything just to get twitter likes and a few followers.

Pathetic !Agree

Fake news

Lock them up for 15 years

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[Bostonhibby]

Well someone is being pathetic ...Sounds like the guy might be a semi decent investigative journalist?

Just not toeing the line the vast majority of the UK press have to has got to be a possibility worth considering.

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[degenerated]

Sounds like the guy might be a semi decent investigative journalist?

Just not toeing the line the vast majority of the UK press have to has got to be a possibility worth considering.

Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkIf nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through. :greengrin

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[Bostonhibby]

If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through. :greengrin

Sent from my CPH2009 using TapatalkAlexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson could maybe have another crack at it?

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[Kato]

https://twitter.com/willsheehan68/status/1500155503963475968?t=ZsON_TSMvdycQJ0cfHxung&s=19

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[cabbageandribs1875]

a wee explanation in how the laundromat works in Londongrad.. 810k new companies registered in uk last year, 62k in one building alone


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ9RQrcv3T8

[hibsbollah]

a wee explanation in how the laundromat works in Londongrad.. 810k new companies registered in uk last year, 62k in one building alone


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ9RQrcv3T8

That’s Oliver Bullough, he has a book out next week about it, very good journalist.

[Bostonhibby]

Don't know about anti Russianism but our PM's pro Russianism hasn't aged well it seems.

https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1500232483324968970?t=9RmLUowOkaadTEZ33ssjLA&s=08

[degenerated]

Don't know about anti Russianism but our PM's pro Russianism hasn't aged well it seems.

https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1500232483324968970?t=9RmLUowOkaadTEZ33ssjLA&s=08Heres the full article

https://archive.ph/Lt7PZ

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[Bostonhibby]

Heres the full article

https://archive.ph/Lt7PZ

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[Callum_62]

We really are a disgusting inhumane uncompassionate country arnt we?

https://twitter.com/AlexTaylorNews/status/1500396475032870912?t=bBH0itENjCpsgTfM6PjStA&s=19

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[Bostonhibby]

We really are a disgusting inhumane uncompassionate country arnt we?

https://twitter.com/AlexTaylorNews/status/1500396475032870912?t=bBH0itENjCpsgTfM6PjStA&s=19

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkOur leader is the gaffe prone Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson and our home secretary is, well, Priti Patel.

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[WeeRussell]

That’s Oliver Bullough, he has a book out next week about it, very good journalist.

Ah but has he passed the ‘greenginger familiarity’ test? If not, his words aren’t worth the paper they’re written on imo.

[hibsbollah]

Ah but has he passed the ‘greenginger familiarity’ test? If not, his words aren’t worth the paper they’re written on imo.

Who the Hell is green ginger :grr:

[JimBHibees]

Heres the full article

https://archive.ph/Lt7PZ

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Absolutely incredible that story. A son of an ex KGB officer who is a billionaire oligarch being personally supported by our then foreign secretary and now pm. Who attends when foreign secretary his mansion in Italy without his security detail and makes sure when Pm he is made a lord wtaf.

[Kato]

Absolutely incredible that story. A son of an ex KGB officer who is a billionaire oligarch being personally supported by our then foreign secretary and now pm. Who attends when foreign secretary his mansion in Italy without his security detail and makes sure when Pm he is made a lord wtaf.The story is old. Just The Sunday Times catching up.

Lebedev was also in the room when Johnson switched from supporting Remain to Leave prior to Brexit referendum, according to Michael Gove's wife, Sarah Vine.

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[Callum_62]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60640460

Ukraine war: UK grants 50 Ukrainian refugee visas so far

Ireland grants 900 (now over 1300)
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1500573675862564864?t=cpDCRiGrGOfCORPlcdQVdQ&s=19



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[Kato]

https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/1500521963642630148?t=qROeAhWDY8DUeU9AJotWiw&s=09

The nick of this. Wrongly spells Ukraine, as well.



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[cabbageandribs1875]

https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/1500521963642630148?t=qROeAhWDY8DUeU9AJotWiw&s=09

The nick of this. Wrobgly spells Ukraine, as well.



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dilibirate ? :greengrin

[Kato]

dilibirate ? :greengrinAey

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[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60640460

Ukraine war: UK grants 50 Ukrainian refugee visas so far

Ireland grants 900 (now over 1300)
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1500573675862564864?t=cpDCRiGrGOfCORPlcdQVdQ&s=19



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Aye, but Patel tells us that we are the only country with a visa system that works!!!!


https://news.stv.tv/world/priti-patel-says-uk-doing-everything-possible-to-grant-ukrainian-visa-applications

[Bostonhibby]

Aye, but Patel tells us that we are the only country with a visa system that works!!!!


https://news.stv.tv/world/priti-patel-says-uk-doing-everything-possible-to-grant-ukrainian-visa-applicationsIt certainly seems to generate a lot of donations from those who have the wealth to pay for one of the UK's "golden visas". Maybe that's her measure of success?

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[Northernhibee]

It's quite spectacular how the Tory government smashes from one sleaze into another. From lockdown parties just a couple of weeks ago, something which should allow them to talk about something else and now questions are being asked if the PM is compromised already.

You just wonder what other stories are waiting to come out.

[grunt]

Lebedev was also in the room when Johnson switched from supporting Remain to Leave prior to Brexit referendum, according to Michael Gove's wife, Sarah Vine.

Huge, if true.

[Mon Dieu4]

The story is old. Just The Sunday Times catching up.

Lebedev was also in the room when Johnson switched from supporting Remain to Leave prior to Brexit referendum, according to Michael Gove's wife, Sarah Vine.

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Believe it or not as a wee jakeball from Leith I've actually had dealings with Lebedev, total ******** who was boasting about spending the £80k on his lunch

[Northernhibee]

Believe it or not as a wee jakeball from Leith I've actually had dealings with Lebedev, total ******** who was boasting about spending the £80k on his lunch

TBF I've stopped at the Burger King at Kinross Services before too.

[Radium]

Pritti Patel lies again

https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/1500869613135056897?s=21

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[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/redfieldwilton/status/1500894203664084996?s=21

England back to backing Johnson.


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[Jack]

Believe it or not as a wee jakeball from Leith I've actually had dealings with Lebedev, total ******** who was boasting about spending the £80k on his lunch

To be fair when you're footing the bill for half the tory party party it's not going to be cheap!

[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/redfieldwilton/status/1500894203664084996?s=21

England back to backing Johnson.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSo is the whole of Europe I've read.

King of the world if we ever appoint one [emoji106]

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[cabbageandribs1875]

from a week ago but how good would it be if we got shot of so many Tories

HALF of Cabinet could lose their seats if general election held now (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/half-of-cabinet-could-lose-their-seats-if-general-election-held-now/ar-AAUm6aP?ocid=msedgntp)


Meanwhile, the Tories would be wiped out of Scotland and Wales, losing all six and 14 seats they hold in each nation respectively.



exactly what right thinking people desire

[Bostonhibby]

https://twitter.com/redfieldwilton/status/1500894203664084996?s=21

England back to backing Johnson.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI imagine he will probably throw a party or two to remind them all he does what he wants, wont be the same now it's not illegal and the death totals are right down but a parties a party, even when it isn't.

Maybe even throw it open to even more Russians in return for donations?

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Gerry Hassan ���� on Twitter: "Boris Johnson's continual refusal to confront the issue of Russian interference in UK politics is telling. As is his dissembling, evasion & discomfort here. #StandWithUkraine️ https://t.co/Nm3a0Q6R4F" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/GerryHassan/status/1500085045754830849?t=7A3mT6xgs7wXg_dnvTU1kQ&s=19&fbclid=IwAR2UXgC9xUTxUKmjYl8NRPsn5JdibLNe9MHKsmWIY _bLpfN0F063efugyEI)

Het(no) Het(no) Het(no), he's just a funny wee man

[stu in nottingham]

So is the whole of Europe I've read.

King of the world if we ever appoint one [emoji106]

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I think it was that superb Six Point Plan that sealed it.

[cabbageandribs1875]

poor wee Lizzie

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Boris Johnson has Left an ‘Oligarch Loophole’ in the Economic Crime Bill – Byline Times (https://bylinetimes.com/2022/03/07/economic-crime-bill-oligarch-loophole-uk/?fbclid=IwAR3v1rizOWMBWsl_2Yh7OVB-1XkDmotD5s3foPd0muXgBgMKiuqqyt9kkPE)


The Government’s ‘crackdown’ on money-laundering by Russian oligarchs has a large loophole which will allow some oligarchs to be exempted

This clause allows individuals or their assets to be exempted if doing so would be “in the interests of the economic wellbeing of the United Kingdom.”

no surprise there, STILL friends of Russian oligarchs :agree:

[JimBHibees]

The story is old. Just The Sunday Times catching up.

Lebedev was also in the room when Johnson switched from supporting Remain to Leave prior to Brexit referendum, according to Michael Gove's wife, Sarah Vine.

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Wow probably had Putin on zoom at the same time :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

poor wee Lizzie, faux pas number 42321470543 i'm really starting to warm to her


UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss mistook Greek Foreign Secretary Nikos Dendias with singer Nikos Vertis.
That happened in a post about the deaths of ethnic Greeks in Ukraine.



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[JeMeSouviens]

poor wee Lizzie, faux pas number 42321470543 i'm really starting to warm to her


UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss mistook Greek Foreign Secretary Nikos Dendias with singer Nikos Vertis.
That happened in a post about the deaths of ethnic Greeks in Ukraine.



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:rolleyes:

Somebody in the FCO is going to have to seize control of her phone.

[Kato]

They just aren't serious about running the country. They want to boss the country and syphon money upwards to their benefactors, very efficient at that, but when it comes to doing anything to make peoples life's better or managing something that requires a modicum of sympathy they are absolutely useless.

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[Callyballybe]

Gerry Hassan ���� on Twitter: "Boris Johnson's continual refusal to confront the issue of Russian interference in UK politics is telling. As is his dissembling, evasion & discomfort here. #StandWithUkraine️ https://t.co/Nm3a0Q6R4F" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/GerryHassan/status/1500085045754830849?t=7A3mT6xgs7wXg_dnvTU1kQ&s=19&fbclid=IwAR2UXgC9xUTxUKmjYl8NRPsn5JdibLNe9MHKsmWIY _bLpfN0F063efugyEI)

Het(no) Het(no) Het(no), he's just a funny wee man

If you didn't laugh, you'd cry at this. 😫

[cabbageandribs1875]

:rolleyes:

Somebody in the FCO is going to have to seize control of her phone.


her and Nadine Dorries are a necessity for detractions from the main failure...Big Dog

[cabbageandribs1875]

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no peter the penny still hasn't dropped, not for the Blind/Ignorant/thick/fingers in the ear voter anyway

[Kato]

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no peter the penny still hasn't dropped, not for the Blind/Ignorant/thick/fingers in the ear voter anywayScary.

Hard to believe that there would be such craven people in power.

There is the story of Lord Tavistock, "Lord Tavistock (later the Duke of Bedford).
Tavistock, the fourth-richest man in Britain, bankrolled a range of fascist causes and in early 1940 illegally sought to make contact with the Nazis in order to negotiate peace terms. The security services lobbied to have him interned and warned the government that he would “be likely to be set up a gauleiter or the head of puppet British government” in the event of an invasion. But his wealth and connections enabled Tavistock to remain a free man."

..and Archie Ramsey, Tory MP for Peebles, "Ramsay had long been on the security service’s radar and its undercover agents penetrated his organization, reporting back to their superiors discussions about the need for a military coup which would occur as German forces arrived in Britain. “Personally, I should welcome a civil war with shots fired in the streets,” Ramsay told one meeting"

Read this a be sure that there is always someone around to sell this country down the river..

https://www.timesofisrael.com/the-men-and-women-who-plotted-to-stab-britain-in-the-back-during-wwii/


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[hibsbollah]

Priti Patel and Russian money: ‘Complacency so complete it resembles complicity’

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/09/oligarch-economic-crime-bill-law-uk

[ronaldo7]

Priti Patel and Russian money: ‘Complacency so complete it resembles complicity’

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/09/oligarch-economic-crime-bill-law-uk

I see the, Conservative friends of Russia, was disbanded at the commons at the start of March.

Burner phones ditched and laptops wiped.

[hibsbollah]

I see the, Conservative friends of Russia, was disbanded at the commons at the start of March.

Burner phones ditched and laptops wiped.

“If you’re an oligarch, and you want a completely legal way to avoid the provisions of the bill, own your offshore company in equal shares of 16.67% with five close relatives. That way, none of your shareholders reach the 25% ownership level required to count as the person of “significant control”. Here is another, also completely legal way: own your company via a professional corporate trust provider, who will act as a nominee, and thus be named in your place on the ownership documents. You’re welcome, and I’m not even a lawyer; imagine what a skilled enabler could do with this colander masquerading as a piece of legislation”

[lapsedhibee]

“If you’re an oligarch, and you want a completely legal way to avoid the provisions of the bill, own your offshore company in equal shares of 16.67% with five close relatives. That way, none of your shareholders reach the 25% ownership level required to count as the person of “significant control”. Here is another, also completely legal way: own your company via a professional corporate trust provider, who will act as a nominee, and thus be named in your place on the ownership documents. You’re welcome, and I’m not even a lawyer; imagine what a skilled enabler could do with this colander masquerading as a piece of legislation”

Equal shares with four close relatives would do, shirley? :confused:

[cabbageandribs1875]

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[hibsbollah]

Equal shares with four close relatives would do, shirley? :confused:

Any of the shareholders over 25%=The power of HM Govt comes down on you.
5 relatives @16%+you@16%=96%=Carry on Oligarchy.

That’s how I read it anyway.

[lapsedhibee]

4 relatives @25% +you@25%=125%=The power of HM Govt comes down on you.
5 relatives @16%+you@16%=96%=Carry on Oligarchy.

That’s how I read it anyway.

Shirley you and four relatives would have 20% each: all under the 25% rule, so carry on oligarching. I'm pretty suspicious of this sixth relative, and wonder if he/she might be Chinese.

[hibsbollah]

Shirley you and four relatives would have 20% each: all under the 25% rule, so carry on oligarching. I'm pretty suspicious of this sixth relative, and wonder if he/she might be Chinese.

You seem to be suspiciously interested in the details of this mechanism :greengrin

[lapsedhibee]

You seem to be suspiciously interested in the details of this mechanism :greengrin

It feels like the example given in the article might have been worked out by Patel. https://metro.co.uk/video/priti-patel-300-034-974-000-tests-carried-out-2149924/

[grunt]

You seem to be suspiciously interested in the details of this mechanism :greengrin


It feels like the example given in the article might have been worked out by Patel. https://metro.co.uk/video/priti-patel-300-034-974-000-tests-carried-out-2149924/
:greengrin:greengrin

[ronaldo7]

Tories now welcoming Johnson to the party conference in Scotland.

Another U turn from the "Leader" in Scotland.

Either that, or he told us lies again.

[Bostonhibby]

Tories now welcoming Johnson to the party conference in Scotland.

Another U turn from the "Leader" in Scotland.

Either that, or he told us lies again.Were his lips moving at the time?

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[JeMeSouviens]

Tories now welcoming Johnson to the party conference in Scotland.

Another U turn from the "Leader" in Scotland.

Either that, or he told us lies again.

Clearly thinking now he's a war hero, he's going to get a hero's welcome. :rolleyes:

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/glennbbc/status/1501981248276807680?s=21

Douglas Ross no longer calling for Johnson to resign. [emoji23]


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[One Day Soon]

YouGov seem to think Labour's lead has extended again. It's almost as though people haven't forgotten Johnson's double standards but have noticed this government's immoral attitude to prevaricating on supporting Ukrainian refugees.

They're running out of time, economic options and credibility to turn things around to avoid Prime Minister Starmer.

[Bostonhibby]

https://twitter.com/glennbbc/status/1501981248276807680?s=21

Douglas Ross no longer calling for Johnson to resign. [emoji23]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAye, but what's Bozo's pal Murray Ross saying?

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[cabbageandribs1875]

a lickspittle Grade A brown nosed coward, show some backbone tory boy, i say show some backbone

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[cabbageandribs1875]

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[Radium]

https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1502261134572855296?s=21

Johnathan Pie’s latest commentary on our love of Russian money


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[ronaldo7]

:faf:

January - Douglas Ross insists he’s a man of principle who sticks to his guns
March - Douglas Ross accused of having the backbone of a jellyfish by the shameless LibDems

https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/1502042891446890510

[Bostonhibby]

:faf:

January - Douglas Ross insists he’s a man of principle who sticks to his guns
March - Douglas Ross accused of having the backbone of a jellyfish by the shameless LibDems

https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/1502042891446890510His principle being self preservation at all costs.

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[Keith_M]

If the Assistant Referee can't make a final decision, maybe it's time to bring in VAR.


"So the fourth official has had another look and, yes, it's definite, Boris is a lying, hypocritical git"

[Kato]

"Innocent" facade of the Lebedev/Johnson relationship starting to crumble.

Up until the invasion of Ukraine both have parroted Putin's take on politics. Eventually the overground media are going to start asking, why?


https://bylinetimes.com/2022/03/12/boris-johnson-evgeny-lebedev-russia-ukraine-kgb-evening-standard/

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[Ozyhibby]

"Innocent" facade of the Lebedev/Johnson relationship starting to crumble.

Up until the invasion of Ukraine both have parroted Putin's take on politics. Eventually the overground media are going to start asking, why?


https://bylinetimes.com/2022/03/12/boris-johnson-evgeny-lebedev-russia-ukraine-kgb-evening-standard/

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https://twitter.com/gabriel_pogrund/status/1502707317590183938?s=21

More on this.


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[Coco Bryce]

https://twitter.com/sharonpentay/status/1502708362361950213?s=20&t=FdVVfAuxq7blj0Emugio7g

Tories loaning our money to Russian businessmen to keep their business interest afloat.

[Callum_62]

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/russian-owned-megahertz-downing-street-media-refit_uk_604e42c0c5b672fce4ed8649

Seems fine

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[Callum_62]

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/world/the-russia-connection-defying-gravity-reality-and-treason/

The*Pulitzer Prize nominated journalist*Carole Cadwalladr, who is*facing ongoing libel action, has uncovered a chain of events that explain the*baffling award of a knighthood*to the sacked secretary of state for education, Gavin Williamson, as the world deals with*Putin’s attack on Ukraine.*The implications are shocking, raising the question of where Britain goes from here, as the ongoing scandals that have rocked Westminster continue to unfold.

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[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1502966852925939716?t=RSJhvwsZFHKZbYJ-b0pZIg&s=19

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[SHODAN]

Amazing. They installed Johnson to do a job (secure Brexit and win the 2019 election) and then remove when convenient by disseminating all these stories. But they can't get rid of him. It's fascinating.

[Kato]

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1503413922598162433?t=wPEw8amEsHeW6x0YK3dykA&s=19

In desperate need of a line.

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[Skol]

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1503413922598162433?t=wPEw8amEsHeW6x0YK3dykA&s=19

In desperate need of a line.

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Michael Gove has a face only a mother can love.

He has been on the telly too much in recent days and I just find my blood boils whenever I see him.

[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1503413922598162433?t=wPEw8amEsHeW6x0YK3dykA&s=19

In desperate need of a line.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkThe first comment is interesting



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[Kato]

The first comment is interesting



https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220314/fdafe143a39082368e6c2ace17ec1c16.jpg

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkIt's just weird that they seem incapable of going a day without telling a lie. On Sunday he claimed on TV that the UK had issued 300,000 visas for Ukrainian refugees and it was only when asked to confirm that he corrected it to 3000, if he hadn't been asked he would have let it ride.

Apart from that - what a performer he is.

Read something the other day that claimed 88% of Conservative Party information issued during the 2019 election campaign was porkies, that is some doing.



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[Killiehibbie]

It's just weird that they seem incapable of going a day without telling a lie. On Sunday he claimed on TV that the UK had issued 300,000 visas for Ukrainian refugees and it was only when asked to confirm that he corrected it to 3000, if he hadn't been asked he would have let it ride.

Apart from that - what a performer he is.

Read something the other day that claimed 88% of Conservative Party information issued during the 2019 election campaign was porkies, that is some doing.



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I doubt they told 12% truths since.

[Kato]

I doubt they told 12% truths since.Yes, by "that is some doing" I meant the 12%.

For those who consider the feeling of "being British" is worth voting for this lot, "being British" must be some strong juju. Not as strong as ching Govey is on in the above clip of course. The sense of puzzlement on the Tory backbenches is also becoming more palpable, obviously not in on the game.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220314/960a0b0e278c5e50cefc6a6ff74ba895.jpg

https://twitter.com/markmcgeoghegan/status/1503483400082137089?s=21


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[Northernhibee]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220314/960a0b0e278c5e50cefc6a6ff74ba895.jpg

https://twitter.com/markmcgeoghegan/status/1503483400082137089?s=21


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Mental that anyone thinks Rishi Sunak, or even more crazy Liz Truss - are good at their job.

[greenginger]

T
https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1502966852925939716?t=RSJhvwsZFHKZbYJ-b0pZIg&s=19

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https://pressgazette.co.uk/carole-cadwalladr-arron-banks-libel-trial-begins/


Cadwalladr is being sued by Banks for repeated stating Banks took Russian money for the Brexit ref.

She has stated (para 12 of link ) that there is no evidence that any money changed hands but she wants the freedom to repeat it.

More fake news from award winning journalists , maybe.

[Callum_62]

T

https://pressgazette.co.uk/carole-cadwalladr-arron-banks-libel-trial-begins/


Cadwalladr is being sued by Banks for repeated stating Banks took Russian money for the Brexit ref.

She has stated (para 12 of link ) that there is no evidence that any money changed hands but she wants the freedom to repeat it.

More fake news from award winning journalists , maybe.What happened to the russia report?

Your not curious at all?

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[Moulin Yarns]

Mental that anyone thinks Rishi Sunak, or even more crazy Liz Truss - are good at their job.

Richie is only there because of the furlough money

[Kato]

Nothing suspicious or Orwellian here.


https://twitter.com/brokenbottleboy/status/1503119822346936330?t=-_ylvH1F8BzsYQ4kOv62zw&s=09

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[ronaldo7]

T

https://pressgazette.co.uk/carole-cadwalladr-arron-banks-libel-trial-begins/


Cadwalladr is being sued by Banks for repeated stating Banks took Russian money for the Brexit ref.

She has stated (para 12 of link ) that there is no evidence that any money changed hands but she wants the freedom to repeat it.

More fake news from award winning journalists , maybe.

There was also no evidence of Russian interference in our elections, as those tasked with finding out were told not to.

Cadwalladr has more integrity in he wee toe, than banks has in his ever increasing body.

Carrie Johnson(symonds) founder member of "conservative friends of Russia", nothing to see here. Move along, nothing to see, just like the Gray report.

[greenginger]

There was also no evidence of Russian interference in our elections, as those tasked with finding out were told not to.

Cadwalladr has more integrity in he wee toe, than banks has in his ever increasing body.

Carrie Johnson(symonds) founder member of "conservative friends of Russia", nothing to see here. Move along, nothing to see, just like the Gray report.


Cadwalladr wants the freedom to repeatedly smear Banks while admitting she has no evidence, meanwhile she is screaming abuse and misogyny because Andrew Neil compared her to a cartoon character.

I’ll risk another comparison , how about Goofy !

[JeMeSouviens]

Cadwalladr wants the freedom to repeatedly smear Banks while admitting she has no evidence, meanwhile she is screaming abuse and misogyny because Andrew Neil compared her to a cartoon character.

I’ll risk another comparison , how about Goofy !

You're a Banks/Leave.eu supporter now? :confused:

Not sure why you'd want to re-parrot the misogynistic attacks on Cadwalladr? There's plenty of stuff on record coming from Isabel Oakeshott, a pro-Brexit journo who wrote a book with Banks co-operation and was a bit surprised at what she found in his emails.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a-classic-russian-fishing-expedition-lands-back-channel-to-white-house-zmg80swqg
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/revealed-brexit-backer-arron-bankss-golden-kremlin-connection-7nbwc7m58
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-email-trail-how-arron-banks-and-andy-wigmore-were-cultivated-fg7tjd87l

[greenginger]

You're a Banks/Leave.eu supporter now? :confused:

Not sure why you'd want to re-parrot the misogynistic attacks on Cadwalladr? There's plenty of stuff on record coming from Isabel Oakeshott, a pro-Brexit journo who wrote a book with Banks co-operation and was a bit surprised at what she found in his emails.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a-classic-russian-fishing-expedition-lands-back-channel-to-white-house-zmg80swqg
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/revealed-brexit-backer-arron-bankss-golden-kremlin-connection-7nbwc7m58
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-email-trail-how-arron-banks-and-andy-wigmore-were-cultivated-fg7tjd87l


Nope, voted remain , but do get pissed off at folk who won’t accept the democratic decision of the people in a referendum.

[ronaldo7]

Nope, voted remain , but do get pissed off at folk who won’t accept the democratic decision of the people in a referendum.

What about the Democratic right to hold a referendum after winning an election with it in a manifesto?

[grunt]

Nope, voted remain , but do get pissed off at folk who won’t accept the democratic decision of the people in a referendum.
It wasn't democratic if people were lied to or given false information, and people and media organisations colluded to hide those lies from the electorate. We have an electoral commission for a reason, to protect the electoral process. The commission has been made toothless by those who don't wish us to have fair elections. If you don't care that our democracy (which you seem to think is important) has been jeopardised by outside forces then I suggest there's no hope for you.

[Kato]

Cadwalladr wants the freedom to repeatedly smear Banks while admitting she has no evidence, meanwhile she is screaming abuse and misogyny because Andrew Neil compared her to a cartoon character.

I’ll risk another comparison , how about Goofy !Is that the only hook that Russian interference in our country, it's institutions and the ruling party of the country hangs on?

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[greenginger]

What about the Democratic right to hold a referendum after winning an election with it in a manifesto?

Putting something in a manifesto that is beyond the legal scope of a governments powers does not make suddenly legal because of a vote.

Besides SNP/greens got the minority of first votes in the election.

Out of interest , has Sturgeon revealed her legal advice on the power to hold a referendum yet ?

Thought not, but she’s spending taxpayers money on preparing for it, while squealing Scotland’s not getting enough from UK government despite the 10% Barnett formula increase.

[greenginger]

Hi
Is that the only hook that Russian interference in our country, it's institutions and the ruling party of the country hangs on?

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Don’ know but,

I’m sure they would have loved to see a Yes result in 2014.

Break up UK, and get the the nukes kicked out of Faslane .

There hasn’t been a former SNP leader working for Russian state tv has there ?

[lapsedhibee]

I’m sure they would have loved to see a Yes result in 2014.


The huge bump in Yes voting from precampaigning levels to referendum itself seems well dodgy, and likely the result of Russian social media manipulation as in the 2016 referendum. A warm up for that. Which is why Sturgeon is sensible to be wary of the often heard argument that as soon as campaigning starts in the next ref, Yes will attract way more than the regular ~50% polling intention levels.

I've never heard Sturgeon "squealing". What channel do you see that on? :dunno:

[greenginger]

It wasn't democratic if people were lied to or given false information, and people and media organisations colluded to hide those lies from the electorate. We have an electoral commission for a reason, to protect the electoral process. The commission has been made toothless by those who don't wish us to have fair elections. If you don't care that our democracy (which you seem to think is important) has been jeopardised by outside forces then I suggest there's no hope for you.

If I remember correctly the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 were all biased remainders, as were the leaders of all main political parties.

Remain also spent about 50% more on he referendum than leave , yet you think the referendum was stacked in Leaves favour.

Thinking back , if there was one event that tipped the vote in Leaves favour, it was the arrogance and intransigence of the EU.

The UK was getting huge amounts of foreign workers coming in and David Cameron went to EU to ask for some limitation powers for a couple of years, that Germany, France, Holland etc had had previously.

The EU said No, and Cameron came back empty handed

I thought at the time, that EU might just have tipped the balance of the vote.

[Kato]

If I remember correctly the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 were all biased remainders, as were the leaders of all main political parties.

Remain also spent about 50% more on he referendum than leave , yet you think the referendum was stacked in Leaves favour.

Thinking back , if there was one event that tipped the vote in Leaves favour, it was the arrogance and intransigence of the EU.

The UK was getting huge amounts of foreign workers coming in and David Cameron went to EU to ask for some limitation powers for a couple of years, that Germany, France, Holland etc had had previously.

The EU said No, and Cameron came back empty handed

I thought at the time, that EU might just have tipped the balance of the vote.The UK could have set out limits on immigration through free movement, just as Germany and France did and still do.

They didn't need the EU's permission for this.

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[Kato]

Hi

Don’ know but,

I’m sure they would have loved to see a Yes result in 2014.

Break up UK, and get the the nukes kicked out of Faslane .

There hasn’t been a former SNP leader working for Russian state tv has there ?

There you go you agree. It could well be that RU have kompromat on Salmond.

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[grunt]

Thought not, but she’s spending taxpayers money on preparing for it, while squealing Scotland’s not getting enough from UK government despite the 10% Barnett formula increase.Would you use that word about a male politician?


The UK was getting huge amounts of foreign workers coming in ...
Do you have an issue with foreign workers coming to the UK? When it seems plain from the experience of the last year that we needed them?

[grunt]

Thinking back , if there was one event that tipped the vote in Leaves favour, it was the arrogance and intransigence of the EU.


What a crock of ****. If you want to see arrogance anywhere just look at your beloved Johnson and his attitude to just about everything.

[Kato]

What a crock of ****. If you want to see arrogance anywhere just look at your beloved Johnson and his attitude to just about everything.It's not only a crock of **** - it's an outright lie.

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[grunt]

If I remember correctly the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 were all biased remainders, as were the leaders of all main political parties.
Yeah, we all remember Question Time and how it never gave any airtime to that nice Mr Farage.

[weecounty hibby]

Thought not, but she’s spending taxpayers money on preparing for it, while squealing Scotland’s not getting enough from UK government despite the 10% Barnett formula increase.

See this is how a democracy works. A party puts things in their manifesto, the electorate vote for that party, they then become the government. That government then spends taxes on something that they told the electorate they would do. I'm delighted that some of my taxes will be spent in the preparation of an indyref 2 and hope to God that it us a success.
I dont really want my taxes spent in HS2, Crossrail, the HOC upgrade, Trident or any number of things that I disagree with but that's democracy for you. Thankfully in an independent Scotland my taxes won't be spent on those things

[ronaldo7]

Putting something in a manifesto that is beyond the legal scope of a governments powers does not make suddenly legal because of a vote.

Besides SNP/greens got the minority of first votes in the election.

Out of interest , has Sturgeon revealed her legal advice on the power to hold a referendum yet ?

Thought not, but she’s spending taxpayers money on preparing for it, while squealing Scotland’s not getting enough from UK government despite the 10% Barnett formula increase.

You're all over the place mate.

You ask if the FM has revealed the legal advice on holding a referendum( something which no government does) but you knew that.

You then answer your own question in the 4th paragraph, without anyone knowing(apart from yourself apparently)

Chuck in something about only first votes counting, before claiming the FM is "squealing" about a lack of cash from your pals in Westminster.

Spending taxpayers money is her day job. 🌞

You've shoehorned a swipe about the FM squealing though, so you'll be a happy chappy.

[Skol]

What about the Democratic right to hold a referendum after winning an election with it in a manifesto?

The democratic right for a second referendum has not (yet) been denied. Current plan is to hold the referendum by the end of next year. Blackford though has indicated this timetable may be delayed but sturgeon has denied that.

My personal view is that if sturgeon asks for a referendum then it should be granted. I am less certain the request will actually be submitted but we need to wait for that to happen.

[Skol]

Should have added that I expect Johnson to say no when asked and I think that would be a mistake on his part.

[Ozyhibby]

Should have added that I expect Johnson to say no when asked and I think that would be a mistake on his part.

I’m banking on it. The union moving from one based on consent, which I accept it is now, to one enforced by law is great for those who want independence.


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[James310]

I’m banking on it. The union moving from one based on consent, which I accept it is now, to one enforced by law is great for those who want independence.


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Is it though? A recent poll suggested otherwise and if that's the SNPs long term plan then it could backfire. Taken from this recent article.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-dream-of-an-independent-scotland-is-fading-away


"A new poll shows that only one-third of Scots want a referendum on independence to take place within the next two years. And while only a slim majority (51 per cent) support holding Britain together, the poll also found that only one-third of Scots believe it would be wrong for the UK Supreme Court to decide whether a referendum can take place.

Constitutional powers being decided at the UK level is, it turns out, absolutely fine with most Scots. That matters, because the Supreme Court could be the crucial institution that decides whether a poll can take place (that is, if law officers at Holyrood even let it get that far)."

[greenginger]

You're all over the place mate.

You ask if the FM has revealed the legal advice on holding a referendum( something which no government does) but you knew that.

You then answer your own question in the 4th paragraph, without anyone knowing(apart from yourself apparently)

Chuck in something about only first votes counting, before claiming the FM is "squealing" about a lack of cash from your pals in Westminster.

Spending taxpayers money is her day job. 🌞

You've shoehorned a swipe about the FM squealing though, so you'll be a happy chappy.


Spending tax payers money on things that are illegal are not job, day or night .

[JeMeSouviens]

Spending tax payers money on things that are illegal are not job, day or night .

If it were illegal you and your chums would be down the court of session tout de suite. :rolleyes:

[Ozyhibby]

Spending tax payers money on things that are illegal are not job, day or night .

What’s illegal?


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[cabbageandribs1875]

tories going even further right.... dangerous people looking for votes from those right wing types with the same views as them....vile

Phantom Power on Twitter: "Even UKIP didn’t want anything to do with Paul Henke for a century. Now he’s Douglas Ross’s council candidate for Stirling. @ScotTories https://t.co/qVYCinNOWv" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/1503318711738015749?s=19&fbclid=IwAR0XJZpFoliUqXjVQzhFTfQ82udFtMpSmkG38N6lB 7fSGRuPNzx3YXzz3fc)

[JeMeSouviens]

What’s illegal?


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A route to Scottish independence via democracy if some folk had their way.

[greenginger]

What a crock of ****. If you want to see arrogance anywhere just look at your beloved Johnson and his attitude to just about everything.

” beloved Johnson “ ??

I don’t think I’ve posted anything complimentary about Boris Johnson on this or any other site.

But you just go on making things up, if it makes you feel better.

[greenginger]

What’s illegal?


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Whats illegal ? Something that’s not legal.

ie Holding a referendum without legal power to do so.

Remember Catalonia.

[Ozyhibby]

Whats illegal ? Something that’s not legal.

ie Holding a referendum without legal power to do so.

Remember Catalonia.

They haven’t done that?


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[cabbageandribs1875]

Jonathon pie :) Opinion | How Putin Weaponized London’s Greed - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/opinion/london-oligarchs-sanctions-putin.html?fbclid=IwAR2kfe2vpj6yuWjoynR7SDq8XpRk7y uf4SpeQBmqSh13auo3-RmK1qwv64s) love the apt Londongrad, Moscow on Thames :greengrin

[Moulin Yarns]

Besides SNP/greens got the minority of first votes in the election.

How did the tories do in the 2019 election? Certainly less than the other parties got.

[WhileTheChief..]

” beloved Johnson “ ??

I don’t think I’ve posted anything complimentary about Boris Johnson on this or any other site.

But you just go on making things up, if it makes you feel better.

Pain in the arse innit!!

I get that sort of chat all the time. Best ignored really, they have no interest in discussing things with you, just point-scoring.

[ronaldo7]

Spending tax payers money on things that are illegal are not job, day or night .

Do you have the advice that she's done something illegal. Please share, as I'd like to see it. 😂👀

I suppose if you can't provide that evidence, then you'd be accused of the thread title. ⚡

[Kato]

Pain in the arse innit!!

I get that sort of chat all the time. Best ignored really, they have no interest in discussing things with you, just point-scoring.I'll point out here that I've not indulged in "Boris loving" whatever but have called greenginger out on an actual item he has posted but it is him that has ignored it.

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[greenginger]

Would you use that word about a male politician?

I would if they squealed , like plenty on this board do incessantly. :greengrin


Do you have an issue with foreign workers coming to the UK? When it seems plain from the experience of the last year that we needed them?

I have no issues whatsoever , but a lot of people did, hence the vote by those individuals.

[JeMeSouviens]

Pain in the arse innit!!

I get that sort of chat all the time. Best ignored really, they have no interest in discussing things with you, just point-scoring.

Yeah, whereas shrill stuff about "squealing" Sturgeon and illegal referendums is just jim dandy for open minded discussion. :rolleyes:

[WhileTheChief..]

Yeah, whereas shrill stuff about "squealing" Sturgeon and illegal referendums is just jim dandy for open minded discussion. :rolleyes:


Let's just call it 3-0 to you.

[grunt]

” beloved Johnson “ ?? I don’t think I’ve posted anything complimentary about Boris Johnson on this or any other site. But you just go on making things up, if it makes you feel better.


Pain in the arse innit!! I get that sort of chat all the time. Best ignored really, they have no interest in discussing things with you, just point-scoring.

Oh I'm sorry, did I conflate support of Johnson's right wing policies with support of the man himself? How remiss of me. Let's imagine instead of saying "beloved Johnson" I said "beloved right wing policies". Is that better?

[grunt]

I have no issues whatsoever , but a lot of people did, hence the vote by those individuals.And do you think it's ok that if a lot of people are racist, as long as they're in the majority, then it's ok to follow racist policies? Is that your view of what democracy should be? Do you have no concept about how we should be treating other people, about whether we should be better than we are?

[Moulin Yarns]

Whats illegal ? Something that’s not legal.

ie Holding a referendum without legal power to do so.

Remember Catalonia.

Holding a referendum may be illegal, in your opinion, but it wouldn't be unlawful

[Skol]

I’m banking on it. The union moving from one based on consent, which I accept it is now, to one enforced by law is great for those who want independence.


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We agree for a change :-)

If boris is ever asked the question, my view is that he should agree. That gets around the anti democracy claim.

He should then get on the front foot to set the terms of the referendum while also ensuring the case for the union is made and the case for independence exposed. I am pretty confident that Scotland would choose to remain in the UK, but accept that if we don’t then so be it.

I suspect though we will be in a never ending stand off as sturgeon doesn’t have the confidence she will win a referendum and boris or whoever is in charge doesn’t need to do anything.

[lapsedhibee]

We agree for a change :-)

If boris is ever asked the question, my view is that he should agree. That gets around the anti democracy claim.

He should then get on the front foot to set the terms of the referendum while also ensuring the case for the union is made and the case for independence exposed. I am pretty confident that Scotland would choose to remain in the UK, but accept that if we don’t then so be it.

I suspect though we will be in a never ending stand off as sturgeon doesn’t have the confidence she will win a referendum and boris or whoever is in charge doesn’t need to do anything.

"Made"/"exposed"?

[greenginger]

Holding a referendum may be illegal, in your opinion, but it wouldn't be unlawful

Eh ?

[WeeRussell]

Whats illegal ? Something that’s not legal.

ie Holding a referendum without legal power to do so.

Remember Catalonia.

I could have the wrong poster but weren’t you complaining/slagging the first minister for not calling a referendum quick enough, and questioning what could possibly be holding it up, only a few days ago?

[ronaldo7]

"Made"/"exposed"?

Open minds.

[Kato]

Thinking back , if there was one event that tipped the vote in Leaves favour, it was the arrogance and intransigence of the EU.

The UK was getting huge amounts of foreign workers coming in and David Cameron went to EU to ask for some limitation powers for a couple of years, that Germany, France, Holland etc had had previously.

The EU said No, and Cameron came back empty handed

I thought at the time, that EU might just have tipped the balance of the vote.

Utter madey up garbage.

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[WeeRussell]

If I remember correctly the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 were all biased remainders, as were the leaders of all main political parties.

Remain also spent about 50% more on he referendum than leave , yet you think the referendum was stacked in Leaves favour.

Thinking back , if there was one event that tipped the vote in Leaves favour, it was the arrogance and intransigence of the EU.

The UK was getting huge amounts of foreign workers coming in and David Cameron went to EU to ask for some limitation powers for a couple of years, that Germany, France, Holland etc had had previously.

The EU said No, and Cameron came back empty handed

I thought at the time, that EU might just have tipped the balance of the vote.

My opinion is that it was a lot simpler than that - racist people tipped the balance.

That and all the lies.

[cabbageandribs1875]

"Made"/"exposed"?


bizarre :agree:

[Skol]

"Made"/"exposed"?

Challenge if you prefer ?

[Skol]

Open minds.

Lol.

I know you won’t believe it but I have a more open mind than I had in 2014. Granted though I am probably as likely to change my mind as you are. I would like the case to be published so we can assess what the detailed plans are.

[cabbageandribs1875]

ah the momories, from grade A Tory t*t Fraser, hundreds more

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Kay Burley :rolleyes:

Maurice Mcleod (he/him) on Twitter: "Kay Burley asking these women to thank the British people for Irish hospitality! https://t.co/nVeQLndWY7" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/mowords/status/1503641779228356611)

[cabbageandribs1875]

another nasty right winger whos views won't be missed Shrewsbury MP Daniel Kawczynski deletes Twitter after row over Ukrainian refugee post | ShropshireStar (https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/politics/2022/03/14/shrewsbury-mp-daniel-kawczynski-deletes-twitter-after-row-over-ukrainian-refugee-post/?fbclid=IwAR3G_WJPXXWPZLMxKrhC_8GnoZ6FenB2a7x8oZvt Cty_3Ir6VBy2MH4ABmI)

Shrewsbury MP Daniel Kawczynski has deleted his Twitter account saying he no longer has confidence in the platform.

[ronaldo7]

Lol.

I know you won’t believe it but I have a more open mind than I had in 2014. Granted though I am probably as likely to change my mind as you are. I would like the case to be published so we can assess what the detailed plans are.

Aye, saw you post the same thing on another thread only a few days ago. I was just surprised to see you'd made your mind up "before" the detailed plans have been published. 😂

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FN4o4UFWQAMBl2w?format=jpg&name=large

[cabbageandribs1875]

John Crace on Twitter: "In his Telegraph article today, Johnson blames west for not responding to Russia's annexation of crimea in 2014. Same Boris who balamed the EU for the invasion of crimea" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/JohnJCrace/status/1503670311358717954)

In his Telegraph article today, Johnson blames west for not responding to Russia's annexation of crimea in 2014. Same Boris who

[Moulin Yarns]

Eh ?

Simply what I said, illegal and unlawful are two different things. Holding a referendum may be unlawful but it can't be illegal because there is no legislation preventing it.

[majorhibs]

ah the momories, from grade A Tory t*t Fraser, hundreds more

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/275859722_1901565956697714_2118461798139534828_n.j pg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=71yupGA8mcEAX93nk95&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT_gnoQw0AdqikdtUj47SOZ7ilgxUlU7CGhxoor9F44n yw&oe=62359C84

Hope pics in

[Skol]

Aye, saw you post the same thing on another thread only a few days ago. I was just surprised to see you'd made your mind up "before" the detailed plans have been published. 😂

I didn’t have you down as still being undecided

[greenginger]

Simply what I said, illegal and unlawful are two different things. Holding a referendum may be unlawful but it can't be illegal because there is no legislation preventing it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=what%20happens%20if%20the%20scottish%20go vernment%20does%20something% (https://www.google.com/search?q=what%20happens%20if%20the%20scottish%20go vernment%20does%20something%20unlawful)


Yeah, but if the Scot gov does something unlawful it is immediately invalid and a complete waste of time and money.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.google.com/search?q=what%20happens%20if%20the%20scottish%20go vernment%20does%20something% (https://www.google.com/search?q=what%20happens%20if%20the%20scottish%20go vernment%20does%20something%20unlawful)


Yeah, but if the Scot gov does something unlawful it is immediately invalid and a complete waste of time and money.

Except legislation is in place, making it legal 😁

It's up to the UK government to prove it is unlawful.


https://www.parliament.scot/bills-and-laws/bills/referendums-Scotland-bill..

[ronaldo7]

I didn’t have you down as still being undecided

I'm not. Having seen the evidence prior to 2014, but then thereafter(and there's lots of evidence), I see no reason to stay within the UK. My faith in my fellow Scots to run our country for the betterment of all, within the EU is stronger than ever.

I'm not the one saying I'm open minded on one thread, and then saying the case for the Union is "made", and the case for Independence is "exposed", although you're entirely entitled to do so.

:aok:

[Skol]

I'm not. Having seen the evidence prior to 2014, but then thereafter(and there's lots of evidence), I see no reason to stay within the UK. My faith in my fellow Scots to run our country for the betterment of all, within the EU is stronger than ever.

I'm not the one saying I'm open minded on one thread, and then saying the case for the Union is "made", and the case for Independence is "exposed", although you're entirely entitled to do so.

:aok:

I didn’t say the case for the union is made, I said ensuring the case is made. I accept that exposed was a bad choice of words.

As I have said before, I await the snp case and will review that and see if I feel it stacks up. Based on what I have seen to date though, I don’t think it does.

[lapsedhibee]

i didn’t say the case for the union is made, i said ensuring the case is made. I accept that exposed was a bad choice of words.

As i have said before, i await the snp case and will review that and see if i feel it stacks up. Based on what i have seen to date though, i don’t think it does.

ffs!!

[Skol]

ffs!!

Not sure what is wrong with that. Am I not allowed a view based on what I have seen to date ?

[lapsedhibee]

Not sure what is wrong with that. Am I not allowed a view based on what I have seen to date ?

You're allowed a view, but stop pretending you're waiting with an open mind for the separatists to make their case!

[Kato]

Dominic Wormtongue doing his thing again.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60765665



This is going to be like the party thing. "I had nothing to do with spies, if I did they weren't Russian spies, if they were Russian spies they didn't have Kompromat on me, if they did have.. .." and on and on.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/mar/17/plans-to-cap-uk-mps-earnings-from-second-jobs-dropped


While everyone is focussed on Ukraine, Tories quietly drop plan to cap mp’s second jobs.


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[Col2]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/mar/17/plans-to-cap-uk-mps-earnings-from-second-jobs-dropped


While everyone is focussed on Ukraine, Tories quietly drop plan to cap mp’s second jobs.


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There should be an outcry on this. But as you say good time to bury this one. Next it will be police party investigations no doubt waiting for end of war celebrations to time the release.

[Bostonhibby]

There should be an outcry on this. But as you say good time to bury this one. Next it will be police party investigations no doubt waiting for end of war celebrations to time the release.First there'll be Jubilee union Jack waving with Boris de Pfeffel Johnson to the fore waving furiously, you won't see a proper investigation and report into Partygate this side of the next general election or a serious leadership clearout by the Nasties.

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[grunt]

Another Line of Duty skit

https://twitter.com/chrischirp/status/1504456932190523405?s=20&t=GhhH9BLX9pCBmwap3ltIUA (https://twitter.com/chrischirp/status/1504456932190523405?s=20&t=GhhH9BLX9pCBmwap3ltIUA)

[lapsedhibee]

Another Line of Duty skit

https://twitter.com/chrischirp/status/1504456932190523405?s=20&t=GhhH9BLX9pCBmwap3ltIUA (https://twitter.com/chrischirp/status/1504456932190523405?s=20&t=GhhH9BLX9pCBmwap3ltIUA)

Didn't realise that Lebedev called his pet dug Boris. Perhaps after Yeltsin?

[grunt]

Didn't realise that Lebedev called his pet dug Boris. Perhaps after Yeltsin?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0dUCkoWEAAoJGL?format=jpg&name=900x900

[WhileTheChief..]

There should be an outcry on this. But as you say good time to bury this one. Next it will be police party investigations no doubt waiting for end of war celebrations to time the release.

You mean you want one!

An outcry is something that happens organically, they’re not arranged.

If enough people are outraged enough,you’ll get your outcry.

If most people don’t give a damn, you won’t.

[grunt]

If most people don’t give a damn, you won’t.
Sadly we're living in an idiocracy where vast portions of the voting population are too stupid to realise what is being done to them.

[WhileTheChief..]

Yeah if only we were all as perfect as you. Imagine how wonderful the world would be������☀️��

[grunt]

Yeah if only we were all as perfect as you. Imagine how wonderful the world would be������☀️��
True.

[CropleyWasGod]

Didn't realise that Lebedev called his pet dug Boris. Perhaps after Yeltsin?

Sorry, Boris is who's pet dug?


🙃

[OldEast]

Sadly we're living in an idiocracy where vast portions of the voting population are too stupid to realise what is being done to them.

Spot on, I know dozens of guys who'd rather watch Bargain hunt or some other pish than the news.

[Kato]

There should be an outcry on this. But as you say good time to bury this one. Next it will be police party investigations no doubt waiting for end of war celebrations to time the release.It was stupid anyway, of course MP's should be able to have second jobs.

Did they ever open an inquiry into MP's taking bribes from private companies attempting to influence the law?

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[lapsedhibee]

Sorry, Boris is who's pet dug?


🙃

Lord Hampton and Siberia's. But you should be sorry, for the who's. :tsk tsk:

[CropleyWasGod]

Lord Hampton and Siberia's. But you should be sorry, for the who's. :tsk tsk:

I wood blame productive text.

But it's really Google Translate's fault, tovarish.

[lapsedhibee]

I wood blame productive text.

But it's really Google Translate's fault, tovarish.

:agree: Productive text is a bugle.

[CropleyWasGod]

:agree: Productive text is a bugle.

Specially when your an illiterate canute.

[grunt]

:agree: Productive text is a bugle.:greengrin

[grunt]

Ben Wallace tweets that he received a prank call, and then Priti Patel follows up saying she's had one too.
So why are they telling us about the poor security in place around the HoC phone system?

I guess they're expecting the recordings of the calls to be released soon and want to get their excuses in first.

(As a postscript, who knew it was so easy to get to speak directly to a Cabinet Minister?)

[majorhibs]

You mean you want one!

An outcry is something that happens organically, they’re not arranged.

If enough people are outraged enough,you’ll get your outcry.

If most people don’t give a damn, you won’t.


Sadly we're living in an idiocracy where vast portions of the voting population are too stupid to realise what is being done to them.


Yeah if only we were all as perfect as you. Imagine how wonderful the world would be������☀️��


True.

IMO only, someone is owning a chief pet dug here.

[Kato]

Cabinet is like a Carry On movie.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://news.stv.tv/politics/chancellor-rishi-sunak-criticised-after-scottish-conservative-conference-speech-lasts-just-over-two-minutes

Chancellor showing Scotland how much we matter.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

no idea what time this was, probably it's busiest, every attendee a traitor to Scotland :agree: especially that loner down in the corner

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/276011157_5029469963776461_8494286937001277519_n.j pg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=rQ73v76_LOEAX_liTYL&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT---TFAx7Tm-B0JB6_UWs5Nkh_g2dotPFg7an1JiBRTjA&oe=6239FC0E

[Ozyhibby]

no idea what time this was, probably it's busiest, every attendee a traitor to Scotland :agree: especially that loner down in the corner

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/276011157_5029469963776461_8494286937001277519_n.j pg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=rQ73v76_LOEAX_liTYL&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT---TFAx7Tm-B0JB6_UWs5Nkh_g2dotPFg7an1JiBRTjA&oe=6239FC0E

Wouldn’t say traitor, just seriously misguided.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

Wouldn’t say traitor, just seriously misguided.


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when you're prepared to do the bidding of another country to help destroy your own...you're a traitor :wink:


apparently Kerr's teeth fell out during his speech

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/275981427_1903446426509667_7251167978473755747_n.j pg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=hUTZgrIaulYAX-Z0KBq&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT8tK98JQoX9Di9FTTQfy-gzgTuryuY5h6aDBSPjw03P9Q&oe=623ADA1C

[Col2]

The next few weeks are all so predictable.- I am betting something like this:-

Johnson “responsible for leading the world response to war”

Sunik “Rishi to the rescue delivering on promise to cut taxes to help with cost of living” Reality will be a NI partial hike compromise and STILL be a tax increase but not as much. Probably a loan for everyone to pay back and badged as a discount.

Partygate: kicked into the long long grass

May Elections: Gets away with minimal impact as Joe public fall in line with BoJo.

[James310]

when you're prepared to do the bidding of another country to help destroy your own...you're a traitor :wink:

Isn't the traitor/quisling chat more at home in the Alba party circles? I know you never said quisling but I am guessing that's what you think of them?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Isn't the traitor/quisling chat more at home in the Alba party circles? I know you never said quisling but I am guessing that's what you think of them?



oh hello james are you angry i'm slating your Tories yep ? and who exactly is 'them' james ? nice to see you come out from the shadows though james :thumbsup:

[cabbageandribs1875]

The next few weeks are all so predictable.- I am betting something like this:-

Johnson “responsible for leading the world response to war”

Sunik “Rishi to the rescue delivering on promise to cut taxes to help with cost of living” Reality will be a NI partial hike compromise and STILL be a tax increase but not as much. Probably a loan for everyone to pay back and badged as a discount.

Partygate: kicked into the long long grass

May Elections: Gets away with minimal impact as Joe public fall in line with BoJo.


and the £37bn that's no longer spoken about

[cabbageandribs1875]

Good Law Project donated to them a few times over the last year or so Homepage - Good Law Project (https://goodlawproject.org/)

On Tuesday, Good Law Project is back in Court. We’re challenging Ministers' persistent use of personal email accounts and messaging apps to conduct Government business.
Our case focuses on two crucial questions: why are Ministers using non-Government communication channels rather than their official devices and emails? And what measures is the Government putting in place to ensure this doesn’t lead to a colossal information black hole?
Ministers' flagrant use of unofficial communication channels doesn’t just fly in the face of rules designed to preserve crucial information, it’s also a matter of national security. The Government’s own Security of Government Business policy clearly states Ministers should “not use [their] personal devices, email and communications applications for Government business..” and that personal IT will “not be as secure” as Government devices. National security experts - and even the then-Lord Chancellor Robert Buckland - have acknowledged that there are huge security risks involved.
This is an important case in the battle for accountability. But going up against the significant resources of the Government is expensive. In this case we have secured a cost-capping order which means if we lose, we will need to pay £125,000 for Government costs, as well as the costs of our own legal team. So far, we have managed to raise £76,000.


We know first-hand how difficult it is to hold Government to account when unofficial communications systems are used. Take our Abingdon Health case. We’ve had to expend hundreds of hours of lawyers’ time seeking disclosure of important evidence, because communications of relevant parties, such as Matt Hancock and Lord Bethell, had been carried out via text messages, WhatsApp or personal email and had not been recorded on Government systems.
And Matt Hancock and Lord Bethell are not the only ones. Department of Health ministers are said to have used WhatsApp to discuss the dire situation in care homes during the pandemic. Rishi Sunak, Michael Gove and Nadhim Zahawi are all reported to have exchanged texts with David Cameron discussing the scandal-hit Greensill (with Zahawi unfortunately deleting the texts without any record being kept). And perhaps most worryingly of all, the Prime Minister is a persistent offender - most recently he was reported to be in “regular WhatsApp contact” with the Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman (despite messages between the crown prince and Jeff Bezos being blamed for the hacking of Jeff Bezos’ phone).


There are rules in place to preserve important information and protect national security. We are asking Ministers to follow those rules, instead of encouraging and perpetuating a culture of secrecy and unaccountability. Our case will be heard alongside a case being brought by All the Citizens and Foxglove.
Thank you,
Gemma Abbott
Legal Director

[cabbageandribs1875]

what a damn Brass neck :rolleyes: like her leader



Aamer Anwar✊🏾🏳️*🌈#BlackLivesMatter on Twitter: "Tory @NatalieElphicke who happens to be the local Dover MP, turns up at the @RMTunion protest over the sacking of 800 workers by P&O & is promptly reminded of her hypocrisy as she voted for “Fire & Rehire” ✊🏾 https://t.co/ToYkz0Eiw2" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/AamerAnwar/status/1504922097222664193?s=19&fbclid=IwAR07CJqSv43Pvm_HvnzBszWdPqS2OonQMKJf_b8fJ 6VLkajLf00WBekom2M)

[majorhibs]

Isn't the traitor/quisling chat more at home in the Alba party circles? I know you never said quisling but I am guessing that's what you think of them?

Pal, yer patter, is pretty stinkin, scabby, down in the gutters, to come out with that like you never said that but I’m guessing? Really you toffs oughta know better than trying to take on people below your station, stay up there with the elites & you’ll save yourself looking like a fool. Leave the lower echelons to the lower echelons, jonny better educated.

[James310]

oh hello james are you angry i'm slating your Tories yep ? and who exactly is 'them' james ? nice to see you come out from the shadows though james :thumbsup:

Not angry, you seem to be the constantly angry one. Just thought this traitor/quisling chat was poor and quite an extremist view that's all, more often seen in Alba. Just don't think it helps these days, but crack on if that's how you feel. Not seen that from a SNP supporter for a long time.

[James310]

Pal, yer patter, is pretty stinkin, scabby, down in the gutters, to come out with that like you never said that but I’m guessing? Really you toffs oughta know better than trying to take on people below your station, stay up there with the elites & you’ll save yourself looking like a fool. Leave the lower echelons to the lower echelons, jonny better educated.

Google translate never worked I am afraid.

[hibsbollah]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/275981427_1903446426509667_7251167978473755747_n.j pg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=hUTZgrIaulYAX-Z0KBq&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT8tK98JQoX9Di9FTTQfy-gzgTuryuY5h6aDBSPjw03P9Q&oe=623ADA1C

:agree:
This is exactly the country that the Tories want. P&O is chickens coming home to roost.

[Stairway 2 7]

Traitor chat and anti englishness is absolutely bowfing and harms the chances of independence. People are manipulated by a well oiled nasty party who own the media. Some are also motivated by self interest which is unfortunately to be expected.

I know many old school labour supporters that I disagree with on independence. But I understand they feel more linked to Liverpool dockers or Nottingham factory workers than Heriots made bankers. They are wonderful people who I believe are motivated by good even if I disagree with them and want independence. To call them the loaded word unionist or cap in hand ect, is divisive and going to move no swing voter's.

40% either way are probably stuck to one side it's the middle that needs won or its another loss

[grunt]

no idea what time this was, probably it's busiest, every attendee a traitor to Scotland :agree: especially that loner down in the corner

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/276011157_5029469963776461_8494286937001277519_n.j pg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=rQ73v76_LOEAX_liTYL&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AT---TFAx7Tm-B0JB6_UWs5Nkh_g2dotPFg7an1JiBRTjA&oe=6239FC0EFrom the photo it appears that this was Richy Sunak's "keynote" speech to the Scottish Tory Conference. A keynote speech that lasted just two minutes, and one where the Scottish Secretary Alister Jack arrived after it had finished!

[grunt]

https://twitter.com/BenQuinn75/status/1505157948649230340?s=20&t=_LX-uHENAJQaFpL46wUUhw


Boris Johnson compares Ukraine's fight for freedom to "the British people voting for Brexit 'in large numbers' : "it was because they wanted to be free to do things differently, for this country to be able to do things differently and run itself"

[Stairway 2 7]

https://twitter.com/BenQuinn75/status/1505157948649230340?s=20&t=_LX-uHENAJQaFpL46wUUhw

Fed up of people linking completely different arguments to Ukraine. Opportunism and gross

[lapsedhibee]

https://twitter.com/BenQuinn75/status/1505157948649230340?s=20&t=_LX-uHENAJQaFpL46wUUhw

He should have gone the whole piglet and claimed, out loud, that he and Zelenskyy are very much alike.

[Bostonhibby]

He should have gone the whole piglet and claimed, out loud, that he and Zelenskyy are very much alike.One fronting horrendously dangerous situations head on in Kiev the other hiding from an interviewer in a freezer?

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[lapsedhibee]

One fronting horrendously dangerous situations head on in Kiev the other hiding from an interviewer in a freezer?


Johnson's been on the front line as well. (https://biddulph.nub.news/n/moorlands-councillor-trends-on-twitter-after-saying-boris-johnson-on-34frontline34-while-in-oxfordshire)