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Dalianwanda
08-01-2022, 08:04 PM
Agreed, I think Hoff is a better buy than Kenny. In all honesty I don't get the fuss about him really. I appreciate it's only YouTube highlights but the goals he scored imo were horrendous defending and not much technical ability shown if my memory serves.

There's not a chance he will get any game time at Celtic given the gulf in levels

Hes a very good young player & you probably don't get the fuss because you don't watch him play. Will be interesting to see how they both progress.

Keyser Sauzee
08-01-2022, 08:04 PM
He was playing first team football where he was, he’s signing for a team who have just signed another striker for £2m, he’s looking at that B-Team in the lowland league at best this season and if that doesn’t get the green light next year he’s playing reserves he’ll have a decent bank account but for his career and development it’s a shan move

There’s every chance he goes there and impresses and his career could flourish, it’s a bit of an unknown right now. He could have signed for us and lost confidence and been *****, who knows. What is a guarantee is that he will be well paid and he has the same opportunity to impress as he would if he signed for us. Like I said there is pros and cons for both sides but to call it idiotic just sounds like the spurned lover.

WeeRussell
08-01-2022, 08:07 PM
Elias Hoff Melkersen


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Ah. That makes sense then.

I thought I was missing some link or not seeing a really bad lookalike 😆

Aldo
08-01-2022, 08:08 PM
Ah. That makes sense then.

I thought I was missing some link or not seeing a really bad lookalike [emoji38]

Ha straightforward. Easy nickname though!


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Hibbyradge
08-01-2022, 08:08 PM
He was playing first team football where he was, he’s signing for a team who have just signed another striker for £2m, he’s looking at that B-Team in the lowland league at best this season and if that doesn’t get the green light next year he’s playing reserves he’ll have a decent bank account but for his career and development it’s a shan move

Maybe he wants to be employed by Celtc in any capacity.

loanheadhibby
08-01-2022, 08:08 PM
We’ve turned down bids for Nisbet, Doig, Porteous and Boyle in the last year and it hasn’t stopped three young players just signing for us, two on long term deals.

Sell if it’s right for us, if it’s not then don’t. In Boyle’s case it has to be a huge offer because of how difficult he’ll be to replace.

We did well to turn down the bids. However, I’ve a feeling the club would have liked to sell at least one of those in the summer.

Also I’m sure no one would begrudge Boyle a big pay day. If he’s on £5k a week and gets offered double that, he’ll be away like a shot and rightly so.

Dmas
08-01-2022, 08:15 PM
There’s every chance he goes there and impresses and his career could flourish, it’s a bit of an unknown right now. He could have signed for us and lost confidence and been *****, who knows. What is a guarantee is that he will be well paid and he has the same opportunity to impress as he would if he signed for us. Like I said there is pros and cons for both sides but to call it idiotic just sounds like the spurned lover.

Impress enough to dislodge guys they’ve paid millions for? They’ve the Greek guy that’s barely kicked a ball plus the Japanese guy that’s just been signed as well as kyogo, and thats completely discounting Ajeti, he’s well off first team be some amount of impressing, I’m no spurned lover I couldn’t care he’s gone to them or what happens to him but to not think it’s a terrible move for his career after all the players we’ve seen make the same mistake over the years is quite something no one’s discrediting the financial benefits

B.H.F.C
08-01-2022, 08:17 PM
We did well to turn down the bids. However, I’ve a feeling the club would have liked to sell at least one of those in the summer.

Also I’m sure no one would begrudge Boyle a big pay day. If he’s on £5k a week and gets offered double that, he’ll be away like a shot and rightly so.

As long as we benefit from it then I wouldn’t begrudge them it. Wouldn’t be in any hurry to let anyone go just for their benefit.

Like the situation with Porteous and Nisbet last January. I’m sure they would have more than doubled their money. But if folk don’t want to pay what we want then they just need to get on with it.

Hermit Crab
08-01-2022, 08:33 PM
If we’re paying anywhere near to 10k a week for any player I’d be stunned.

If that was the case every player would be on a couple more thousand per week than I’d have imagined.

And if that is the case, then our recruitment needs to dramatically improve as I imagine we can get much better value for money elsewhere


We are, Meuller but I got shot down for posting this a while back.

Dalianwanda
08-01-2022, 08:46 PM
We are, Meuller but I got shot down for posting this a while back.

probably because no one knows what we’re paying him

Tobias Funke
08-01-2022, 08:47 PM
probably because no one knows what we’re paying him

:top marks:agree:

Hermit Crab
08-01-2022, 08:51 PM
probably because no one knows what we’re paying him

Meuller is on 9 - 10k PW.

IberianHibernian
08-01-2022, 09:00 PM
He was playing first team football where he was, he’s signing for a team who have just signed another striker for £2m, he’s looking at that B-Team in the lowland league at best this season and if that doesn’t get the green light next year he’s playing reserves he’ll have a decent bank account but for his career and development it’s a shan move

Don`t think League of Ireland starts till about March so even Celtic B team matches will get him matches in next 2 months if he doesn`t make their first team . Next season , loads of clubs maybe including us will be delighted to have him on loan if Celtic don`t want him in first team squad . Maybe even this season . If he`d signed for us would he have been guaranteed games with first team every week ? In last 15 years or so I think we`ve signed 3 young strikers from Ireland - Kurtis Byrne ( who was supposed to be a great prospect but didn`t seem to do much after leaving us ) , Cody Mulhall ( who was scoring at same rate or better than Jason Cummings at Under 21 level before serious injury more or less ended his career ) and Eoin Doyle who , like Kenny , already had a lot of experience in LOI . Doyle was a good signing and it`s a pity he didn`t stay with us longer but he wasn`t / isn`t a fantastic player who we could hve sold for millions ( that seems to be aim of most clubs now ) . Anyway , a shame he didn`t sign for us . Maybe he will some time in the future .

Lago
08-01-2022, 09:13 PM
Meuller is on 9 - 10k PW.
If he is and it's a big if, can't see him being at Hibs for long because that kind of salary is unsustainable for a club like Hibs.

Since452
08-01-2022, 09:15 PM
Meuller is on 9 - 10k PW.

Who is funding that?

Edinburgh Green
08-01-2022, 09:16 PM
Maybe he wants to be employed by Celtc in any capacity.

Unfortunately I think this may be close to the mark. Celtic on the CV making the family proud. If it doesn’t work out in a couple of years he knows there’s a good chance he’ll get a half decent move somewhere where he can kickstart his career.

HoboHarry
08-01-2022, 09:17 PM
Meuller is on 9 - 10k PW.

Write the contract did you?

Since452
08-01-2022, 09:19 PM
Quick Google search has him on £2.4k pew week in the states. 9/10k sounds far fetched.

SMAXXA
08-01-2022, 09:21 PM
Quick Google search has him on £2.4k pew week in the states. 9/10k sounds far fetched.

Because it is 😂

Heisenberg
08-01-2022, 09:23 PM
Quick Google search has him on £2.4k pew week in the states. 9/10k sounds far fetched.

I’d agree. Not believing we are paying one player anywhere near 10k a week.

Iain G
08-01-2022, 09:25 PM
Meuller is on 9 - 10k PW.

Pounds or dollars? And who told you?

Libby Hibby
08-01-2022, 09:26 PM
No way mueller is on 9k or 10k per week

delbert
08-01-2022, 09:35 PM
No way mueller is on 9k or 10k per week

Hibs have a wage structure which they don’t break for anyone, the figures quoted are incorrect.

Hermit Crab
08-01-2022, 09:36 PM
Hibs have a wage structure which they don’t break for anyone, the figures quoted are incorrect.


Ok. :aok:

Heisenberg
08-01-2022, 09:38 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8253901/hibs-martin-boyle-transfer-saudi-arabia-1m/

He’d be daft not wanting to consider that kind of cash.

CropleyWasGod
08-01-2022, 09:39 PM
For perspective, the wages suggested for Mueller would be 3 times what we paid Leeann.

bingo70
08-01-2022, 09:43 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8253901/hibs-martin-boyle-transfer-saudi-arabia-1m/

He’d be daft not wanting to consider that kind of cash.

I don’t really get that story.

Team from Saudi Arabia would pay a player a lot of money? Surely that’s not news?

When I first saw the tweet I assumed that they’d come back in with a higher offer. Unless they can offer a better transfer fee, the amount they could offer him is completely irrelevant.

Sean1875
08-01-2022, 09:43 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8253901/hibs-martin-boyle-transfer-saudi-arabia-1m/

He’d be daft not wanting to consider that kind of cash.

They can offer him £10m a year wages for all I care, if they’re only offering us £500k as a transfer fee then they can **** off.


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SMAXXA
08-01-2022, 09:52 PM
They can offer him £10m a year wages for all I care, if they’re only offering us £500k as a transfer fee then they can **** off.


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Thing is if they rate him as a million pound a season player they will have to pay the going rate for that kind of player no where near 500k. If we get 3m I hope Boyle goes as that’s going to set him and his family up for life and from where he has came from and what he’s given to Hibs over the years I’d genuinely have no issue with it. We would replace him, maybe not like for like but it’s going to happen eventually so why not now when we are investing in the squad.

You never want to lose your best players but also think there is room for a bit of sentiment for players who have served us well and seeing those players be rewarded like they would be amazing. It’s the difference between setting his family up for life or having to get another job once he retired from football.

Carheenlea
08-01-2022, 09:52 PM
If a club can offer £1M a year wages they can afford a £5-6M transfer fee.

Heisenberg
08-01-2022, 09:54 PM
I don’t really get that story.

Team from Saudi Arabia would pay a player a lot of money? Surely that’s not news?

When I first saw the tweet I assumed that they’d come back in with a higher offer. Unless they can offer a better transfer fee, the amount they could offer him is completely irrelevant.

I wouldn’t say completely irrelevant. That sort of cash will turn a players head, truly life changing. Would Boyle start acting up and agitating for a move? I doubt it but you never know.

If they are able to offer him £1m a year in wages I’m fairly sure they’ll get to a transfer fee that we’d find acceptable eventually.

04Sauzee
08-01-2022, 09:56 PM
Thing is if they rate him as a million pound a season player they will have to pay the going rate for that kind of player no where near 500k. If we get 3m I hope Boyle goes as that’s going to set him and his family up for life and from where he has came from and what he’s given to Hibs over the years I’d genuinely have no issue with it. We would replace him, maybe not like for like but it’s going to happen eventually so why not now when we are investing in the squad.

You never want to lose your best players but also think there is room for a bit of sentiment for players who have served us well and seeing those players be rewarded like they would be amazing. It’s the difference between setting his family up for life or having to get another job once he retired from football.

Agreed, if we can get a decent fee for him there is no way we can stand in his way of earning £1m per year. That's him and his family set up for life.

bingo70
08-01-2022, 09:57 PM
I wouldn’t say completely irrelevant. That sort of cash will turn a players head, truly life changing. Would Boyle start acting up and agitating for a move? I doubt it but you never know.

If they are able to offer him £1m a year in wages I’m fairly sure they’ll get to a transfer fee that we’d find acceptable eventually.

I just think if I’m Martin Boyle, I’d have a fair idea if that anyway when they offered the £500k.

It’s only when they got close to offering an acceptable amount I’d start to let my mind wander.

Sean1875
08-01-2022, 09:58 PM
Thing is if they rate him as a million pound a season player they will have to pay the going rate for that kind of player no where near 500k. If we get 3m I hope Boyle goes as that’s going to set him and his family up for life and from where he has came from and what he’s given to Hibs over the years I’d genuinely have no issue with it. We would replace him, maybe not like for like but it’s going to happen eventually so why not now when we are investing in the squad.

You never want to lose your best players but also think there is room for a bit of sentiment for players who have served us well and seeing those players be rewarded like they would be amazing. It’s the difference between setting his family up for life or having to get another job once he retired from football.

Aye completely agree, from a totally selfish point of view I’m praying he stays at Hibs for the rest of his career but he fully deserves a bumper pay day. My heart has only just recovered from losing SJM though, not sure I’m ready for Boyler to go just yet :boo hoo:

04Sauzee
08-01-2022, 10:03 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Hibs ready to offer Norwich defender Rocky Bushiri a lifeline

https://t.co/xuNHjHURHY

Libby Hibby
08-01-2022, 10:03 PM
If we sign this winger from Norway, I’d say Boyle is away this window.

Hiber-nation
08-01-2022, 10:05 PM
Meuller is on 9 - 10k PW.

Who made this up in the first place? Seems to be 1 or 2 folk actually believing it.

matty_f
08-01-2022, 10:06 PM
If we sign this winger from Norway, I’d say Boyle is away this window.

I think we probably need to sell Boyle if we want to fund that winger from Norway’s transfer.

Since452
08-01-2022, 10:10 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Hibs ready to offer Norwich defender Rocky Bushiri a lifeline

https://t.co/xuNHjHURHY

That would be Bushiri, Henderson, Clarke, Scott on loan and we've also had Wood on loan. Is there not a limit?

Heisenberg
08-01-2022, 10:11 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Hibs reader to offer Norwich defender Rocky Bushiri a lifeline

https://t.co/xuNHjHURHY

Not overly enthused by that one from bits I’ve read about him. Seems to have been on loan four times since signing for Norwich and a couple have been cut short. He’s also failed to make his mark on any team and has mostly always been on the bench. Not ideal for a 22 year old centre half.

04Sauzee
08-01-2022, 10:12 PM
That would be Bushiri, Henderson, Clarke, Scott on loan and we've also had Wood on loan. Is there not a limit?

Six I think although I may be wrong.

Golden Bear
08-01-2022, 10:12 PM
Who made this up in the first place? Seems to be 1 or 2 folk actually believing it.

Straight from the Land of make believe.

HendoDelivered
08-01-2022, 10:13 PM
Boyler will be offski I think

Nicho87
08-01-2022, 10:20 PM
I think maloney won’t be keen on that happening

But if this is genuine interest and Boyle wants it - maloney will have to accept it as much as that would break a few hearts. Hope he stays, but wish him well if he chases the coin at this stage in his career. He has been fantastic for hibs.

cameronw-hfc
08-01-2022, 10:28 PM
Porto is the one imo we should be offloading. 18 months left, if he doesn't sign a new deal this is our last chance with the ball in our court to sell him. If not, risk losing a player that was supposed to make the club money for free.

Hibbyradge
08-01-2022, 10:30 PM
Hibs have a wage structure which they don’t break for anyone, the figures quoted are incorrect.

I don't think we've had a wage structure for some time.

Stuart93
08-01-2022, 10:31 PM
Boyler will be offski I think

If we get a bid we deem suitable. Doesn’t matter what they’re offering Martin a week at this point

King Cosell
08-01-2022, 10:34 PM
No income tax in Saudi, so 20K would be nearly 40K in the UK.

HendoDelivered
08-01-2022, 10:35 PM
If we get a bid we deem suitable. Doesn’t matter what they’re offering Martin a week at this point

I think its a matter of time before we get a bid we will accept. Really hope I’m wrong though, would love him to stay at us, unreal player.

tamig
08-01-2022, 10:35 PM
Hibs have a wage structure which they don’t break for anyone, the figures quoted are incorrect.

Do you remember what Ron said at the AGM?

Unseen work
08-01-2022, 10:36 PM
Don’t know how I feel about this lad Rocky Bushiri.

On trial at Coventry in the summer and they said he was too raw. Just back from a serious injury and it would be a 6 month loan?

Physically he looks the part and he may be a good defender but I just don’t see him improving our team based on the above. If it was a permanent I’d understand it as we could watch him develop but I can’t see him dislodging Porto, McGinn, Hanlon or Clarke.

Whoever replaces Porto in the 3 (assuming he’s sold) needs to be the same standard.

CapitalGreen
08-01-2022, 10:37 PM
The mystery Middle Eastern club in for Boyle is Al Jazira from Abu Dhabi. Their chairman is Sheikh Mansour of Man City fame so they have cash to burn. The rumours of a Celtic £3m bid are purely to try and smoke out a better offer from them.

Golden Bear
08-01-2022, 10:46 PM
Personally I think that a few of our illustrious posters have enjoyed a couple of shandies tonight. And yes, I'm jealous.

😄

King Cosell
08-01-2022, 10:47 PM
Don’t know how I feel about this lad Rocky Bushiri.

On trial at Coventry in the summer and they said he was too raw. Just back from a serious injury and it would be a 6 month loan?

Physically he looks the part and he may be a good defender but I just don’t see him improving our team based on the above. If it was a permanent I’d understand it as we could watch him develop but I can’t see him dislodging Porto, McGinn, Hanlon or Clarke.

Whoever replaces Porto in the 3 (assuming he’s sold) needs to be the same standard.

Selliing Porteous now doesn't make any sense. If he improves under Maloney, and cuts out the Hong Kong Phooey challenges, He'll have more options and we'll get more money at the end of the season.

hibsbollah
08-01-2022, 10:50 PM
No way mueller is on 9k or 10k per week

Correct.



He’s actually on £15k a week :greengrin

Unseen work
08-01-2022, 10:55 PM
Selliing Porteous now doesn't make any sense. If he improves under Maloney, and cuts out the Hong Kong Phooey challenges, He'll have more options and we'll get more money at the end of the season.

Personally I think this is our best chance at getting a half decent fee for him as he has 18 months left. Come the summer teams will really drop the fee they’re offering.

Unless we’re banking on finishing 3rd and getting the money from Europe

Greenworld
08-01-2022, 10:55 PM
The mystery Middle Eastern club in for Boyle is Al Jazira from Abu Dhabi. Their chairman is Sheikh Mansour of Man City fame so they have cash to burn. The rumours of a Celtic £3m bid are purely to try and smoke out a better offer from them.Interesting, playing for Australia certainly opens up parts of the world . Apart from money you would not go near the place .

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Ronniekirk
08-01-2022, 10:56 PM
Don’t know how I feel about this lad Rocky Bushiri.

On trial at Coventry in the summer and they said he was too raw. Just back from a serious injury and it would be a 6 month loan?

Physically he looks the part and he may be a good defender but I just don’t see him improving our team based on the above. If it was a permanent I’d understand it as we could watch him develop but I can’t see him dislodging Porto, McGinn, Hanlon or Clarke.

Whoever replaces Porto in the 3 (assuming he’s sold) needs to be the same standard.

Sounds like it’s a gamble hence six months loan But at least Maloney knows him from Belgian set up so must see potential in him if he can stay fit


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HoboHarry
08-01-2022, 10:57 PM
Personally I think that a few of our illustrious posters have enjoyed a couple of shandies tonight. And yes, I'm jealous.

😄

Loads of beer left in my fridge from the new year and I don't even like the stuff lol. Come over and help yourself......

hhibs
08-01-2022, 11:02 PM
Straight from the Land of make believe.



10 k a month more like.

Forza Fred
08-01-2022, 11:03 PM
Interesting, playing for Australia certainly opens up parts of the world . Apart from money you would not go near the place .

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Interesting comment.

Dubai is just down the road and seems to be a recent European tourist destination.

I’ve only been as far as Abu Dhabi airport, but have seen reports from people who say they prefer Abu Dhabi to Dubai.

WeeRussell
08-01-2022, 11:13 PM
Interesting comment.

Dubai is just down the road and seems to be a recent European tourist destination.

I’ve only been as far as Abu Dhabi airport, but have seen reports from people who say they prefer Abu Dhabi to Dubai.

Do people from either of these places like the flinstones?

ahibby
08-01-2022, 11:13 PM
Interesting comment.

Dubai is just down the road and seems to be a recent European tourist destination.

I’ve only been as far as Abu Dhabi airport, but have seen reports from people who say they prefer Abu Dhabi to Dubai.

But the main difference is Dubai dont like the Flintstones while Abu Dhabi Dooo

ahibby
08-01-2022, 11:14 PM
Do people from either of these places like the flinstones?

Two minds

sean04
08-01-2022, 11:22 PM
Rumours I heard was Ron was playing a big part of muellers wages and was roughly that 10k a week

Hermit Crab
08-01-2022, 11:24 PM
Rumours I heard was Ron was playing a big part of muellers wages and was roughly that 10k a week


:agree:

MacBean
08-01-2022, 11:33 PM
But the main difference is Dubai dont like the Flintstones while Abu Dhabi Dooo

😂😂😂

HoboHarry
08-01-2022, 11:38 PM
Rumours I heard was Ron was playing a big part of muellers wages and was roughly that 10k a week

How long is Mueller's contract?

Unseen work
08-01-2022, 11:44 PM
Reading about Rocky Bushiri on Twitter and he certainly seems highly rated and the Coventry fans were really impressed with him when he was on trial.

Physical, rapid and comfortable on the ball is what they’re saying.

More than trust Maloney’s judgement if he knows him from Belgium.

Just hope it would be a permanent and not a 6 month loan.

Ozyhibby
08-01-2022, 11:45 PM
How long is Mueller's contract?

10 years


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Ronniekirk
08-01-2022, 11:52 PM
Rumours I heard was Ron was playing a big part of muellers wages and was roughly that 10k a week

A rumour not fact that can be established Logically why would he do that , when the guy is unproven at our level it would also piss off other players
If he turns out to be the next Ronaldo then Ron would get his money back but I am still struggling to believe this one


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Ronniekirk
08-01-2022, 11:54 PM
How long is Mueller's contract?

No one seems to know


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Hermit Crab
09-01-2022, 12:00 AM
A rumour not fact that can be established Logically why would he do that , when the guy is unproven at our level it would also piss off other players
If he turns out to be the next Ronaldo then Ron would get his money back but I am still struggling to believe this one


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Because RG is prepared to spend big because he believes he can recoup the money in the future. He's from the states, the staff will be well informed of how good he is before any bid is made. Lots of time will have spent scouting Meuller before we went in for him.

Greencore
09-01-2022, 12:26 AM
How long is Mueller's contract?

3 years.

The Sundance Kid
09-01-2022, 12:34 AM
How long is Mueller's contract?

2025

Greenio
09-01-2022, 12:50 AM
Not sure why so many are dismissing UAE as a place to live like it'll be some kind of oppressive hell hole. From my experience if you have a bit of coin it's resort style luxury with the best of the best. Question the rulers if you want (question ours while you're at it) but lifestyle wise it's top notch...if a wee bit in the hot side.

500miles
09-01-2022, 01:14 AM
Not sure why so many are dismissing UAE as a place to live like it'll be some kind of oppressive hell hole. From my experience if you have a bit of coin it's resort style luxury with the best of the best. Question the rulers if you want (question ours while you're at it) but lifestyle wise it's top notch...if a wee bit in the hot side.

Aye. More of a dystopia than an outright hellhole.

Lendo
09-01-2022, 01:17 AM
Not sure why so many are dismissing UAE as a place to live like it'll be some kind of oppressive hell hole. From my experience if you have a bit of coin it's resort style luxury with the best of the best. Question the rulers if you want (question ours while you're at it) but lifestyle wise it's top notch...if a wee bit in the hot side.

Putting aside of course the human rights violations, the arbitrary detentions for freedom of expression and the treatment of women as second class citizens under law, not oppressive in the slightest.

NAE NOOKIE
09-01-2022, 01:35 AM
Not sure why so many are dismissing UAE as a place to live like it'll be some kind of oppressive hell hole. From my experience if you have a bit of coin it's resort style luxury with the best of the best. Question the rulers if you want (question ours while you're at it) but lifestyle wise it's top notch...if a wee bit in the hot side.

From what I understand it's a backward medieval **** hole where whippings, stoning to death and judicial amputations are still a fairly regular occurrence for locals and migrant workers, with many of said workers living and working in conditions that would make a Victorian workhouse manager blush. Democracy is paid no more than lip service and anybody questioning the state can expect a midnight visit, probably never to be seen again.

Still though, it's got shiny skyscrapers, top notch hotels, Prada, Gucci and swimming pools.

Apparently you can put lipstick on a pig :aok:

Victor
09-01-2022, 02:22 AM
From what I understand it's a backward medieval **** hole where whippings, stoning to death and judicial amputations are still a fairly regular occurrence for locals and migrant workers, with many of said workers living and working in conditions that would make a Victorian workhouse manager blush. Democracy is paid no more than lip service and anybody questioning the state can expect a midnight visit, probably never to be seen again.

Still though, it's got shiny skyscrapers, top notch hotels, Prada, Gucci and swimming pools.

Apparently you can put lipstick on a pig :aok:

Like to see anyone arguing against that summation. Apart from the pig and lipstick, I am sure some of our more fervent posters could start debating that point.

Greenio
09-01-2022, 03:20 AM
Putting aside of course the human rights violations, the arbitrary detentions for freedom of expression and the treatment of women as second class citizens under law, not oppressive in the slightest.

I think you know that my point was about the likely lifestyle of well off people (ie Boyle) living there and not about the politics, ethics and morality that underpin it.

Haymaker
09-01-2022, 04:41 AM
:hyper

Since90+2
09-01-2022, 05:45 AM
Meuller is on 9 - 10k PW.

Which is it? 9 or 10?

Hibernian Verse
09-01-2022, 07:25 AM
:hyper

Please no.

w pilton hibby
09-01-2022, 07:40 AM
Rumours I heard was Ron was playing a big part of muellers wages and was roughly that 10k a week

A brown envelope job then?

If so many posters know about this presumably so have the rest of the squad.

Is this going to cause difficulties for the new manager?

Greenworld
09-01-2022, 07:49 AM
The mystery Middle Eastern club in for Boyle is Al Jazira from Abu Dhabi. Their chairman is Sheikh Mansour of Man City fame so they have cash to burn. The rumours of a Celtic £3m bid are purely to try and smoke out a better offer from them.Do clubs in that region actually pay high Transfer fees?


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BSEJVT
09-01-2022, 07:53 AM
Tbh I couldn't give a damn which player earns what but it does piss me off having to read through pages and pages of he said/she said on Player A or B's wages to find out if we are actually interested in signing anyone.

Likewise with Boyle, it is interesting and hopefully wrong that there is interest in him from the middle east, but I am not to interested in hearing folks views on the merits of him moving there or their critiques on the merits or otherwise of living there or the regimes in charge.

Any chance we could keep this thread and the one on the PM board to their original purposes which are discussing transfers in and out and leave the background discussions to other threads?

lucky
09-01-2022, 08:02 AM
From what I understand it's a backward medieval **** hole where whippings, stoning to death and judicial amputations are still a fairly regular occurrence for locals and migrant workers, with many of said workers living and working in conditions that would make a Victorian workhouse manager blush. Democracy is paid no more than lip service and anybody questioning the state can expect a midnight visit, probably never to be seen again.

Still though, it's got shiny skyscrapers, top notch hotels, Prada, Gucci and swimming pools.

Apparently you can put lipstick on a pig :aok:

I think your getting Saudi mixed up with UAE. There is no doubt that there are repressive laws in the UAE but it’s not a hell hole. It’s not a democratic country, very few in the Middle East are, but it is a great place to live and if the money is as reported to be £1m a year tax free then there is no doubt Boyle will want to go.

Viva_Palmeiras
09-01-2022, 08:08 AM
A brown envelope job then?

If so many posters know about this presumably so have the rest of the squad.

Is this going to cause difficulties for the new manager?

football must be one of the few professions where (apparently) people talk openly about salaries and contracts. Or is it all smoke and mirrors fuelled by pundits and agents?

And take a release clause - in whose interest to make public and why ?if “every layer has their price” is this in every contract?

But… back to topic. Who is the 6th man?

Bishop Hibee
09-01-2022, 08:13 AM
football must be one of the few professions where (apparently) people talk openly about salaries and contracts. Or is it all smoke and mirrors fuelled by pundits and agents?

And take a release clause - in whose interest to make public and why ?if “every layer has their price” is this in every contract?

But… back to topic. Who is the 6th man?

No it’s not. The salary scale for every local government worker in Scotland is in the public domain. You can match the job title to the pay scale.

Danderhall Hibs
09-01-2022, 08:17 AM
Which is it? 9 or 10?

Does a footballers wage have to be a whole number or rounded up to the nearest full thousand?

NC1875
09-01-2022, 08:21 AM
Does a footballers wage have to be a whole number or rounded up to the nearest full thousand?

Rounded up to the nearest 10k it seems 😂

No way Mueller is coming here on anything near 10k a week.

If you say orange really slowly it sounds like gullible….

hibsbollah
09-01-2022, 08:26 AM
but it is a great place to live

…that depends who you are.

Heisenberg
09-01-2022, 08:33 AM
St Johnstone are after Hallberg on loan according to the Daily Mail. He’d prefer a permanent move away apparently.

CapitalGreen
09-01-2022, 08:34 AM
Do clubs in that region actually pay high Transfer fees?

I don’t know about all clubs but a £3m signing would only be Al Jazira’s 13th highest transfer fee paid, however it’s been over 5 years since a bigger outlay.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/al-jazira-abu-dhabi-/transferrekorde/verein/2524

Allant1981
09-01-2022, 08:35 AM
No it’s not. The salary scale for every local government worker in Scotland is in the public domain. You can match the job title to the pay scale.

Yip i work for the nhs and its very easy to know what salary folk earn, no big deal for me, appreciate not everyone wants to discuss what they earn

04Sauzee
09-01-2022, 08:44 AM
Reports in the press this morning that St Johnstone have made a move for Hallberg.

St J's looking for a loan but Hallberg looking for something permanent according to the reports.

Ozyhibby
09-01-2022, 08:48 AM
I think your getting Saudi mixed up with UAE. There is no doubt that there are repressive laws in the UAE but it’s not a hell hole. It’s not a democratic country, very few in the Middle East are, but it is a great place to live and if the money is as reported to be £1m a year tax free then there is no doubt Boyle will want to go.

UAE is a bit like South Africa in the 70’s and 80’s. You can live a fantastic lifestyle and earn great money but you really have to hold your nose because not everyone in that society will have the same rights and opportunities that you will be enjoying.
A lot of the Indian and Sri Lankan people that you see serving you or cleaning up after you will be getting paid a pittance and won’t have seen their passports for a while. Construction workers have to work in horrific conditions building those shiny new sky scrapers. And the treatment of some of the domestic staff would appall most people in this country.
A lot of people can easily turn a blind eye to all that stuff and sit back and enjoy their new status at the very top of a society, but not everyone can. It wouldn’t be for me. I prefer the classless utopia that is the UK.[emoji6][emoji23]


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Brummie_Hibs
09-01-2022, 08:53 AM
I was told that Mueller has been bought to be sold. Speculate to accumulate and all. Hibs see a big profit in him.

If Mueller is still here in 1.5 years, then it'll be because he's flopped.

number9dream
09-01-2022, 08:55 AM
Rounded up to the nearest 10k it seems 😂

No way Mueller is coming here on anything near 10k a week.

If you say orange really slowly it sounds like gullible….

MLS is very open about salaries. CM's wage for 2021 with Orlando was $137,000, which is roughly £100,000: approximately 2K a week.
We are probably upping that, but it won't be a huge increase, surely...

Anyhoo, no amount of money could persuade me to go to SA. Hopefully, Boyle feels the same.

SMAXXA
09-01-2022, 08:57 AM
I was told that Mueller has been bought to be sold. Speculate to accumulate and all. Hibs see a big profit in him.

If Mueller is still here in 1.5 years, then it'll be because he's flopped.

There are some ridiculous rumours regarding this transfer and this is up there with the best. He’s signed to do well for Hibs like absolutely every other player, how they do will determine if we sell them on for good money, absolutely the same for any player not just mueller.

It’s mental.

Libby Hibby
09-01-2022, 08:58 AM
Reports in the press this morning that St Johnstone have made a move for Hallberg.

St J's looking for a loan but Hallberg looking for something permanent according to the reports.

I wonder if at the conclusion whether McCart will be part of the deal.

I hope so. We need competition for Hanlon imo.

SHODAN
09-01-2022, 08:59 AM
Looks like the Bushiri thing is a thing.

loanheadhibby
09-01-2022, 09:06 AM
MLS is very open about salaries. CM's wage for 2021 with Orlando was $137,000, which is roughly £100,000: approximately 2K a week.
We are probably upping that, but it won't be a huge increase, surely...

Anyhoo, no amount of money could persuade me to go to SA. Hopefully, Boyle feels the same.

So if you were Boyle and being offered £1 million a year, you’d turn it down due to the location?

You’re a better person then me. I’d walk there and suffer the consequences as that level of salary is life changing and if he gets good advice, will set up his kids futures as well.

No brainer for me.

mayo hibee
09-01-2022, 09:07 AM
MLS is very open about salaries. CM's wage for 2021 with Orlando was $137,000, which is roughly £100,000: approximately 2K a week.
We are probably upping that, but it won't be a huge increase, surely...

Anyhoo, no amount of money could persuade me to go to SA. Hopefully, Boyle feels the same.

He is not being linked to a club in Saudi Arabia. It's in the UAE - very different.

sleeping giant
09-01-2022, 09:07 AM
The amount of things people have "been hearing" about Muellers transfer is unreal 😂

Forza Fred
09-01-2022, 09:08 AM
Do clubs in that region actually pay high Transfer fees?


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Melbourne Victory got $1m for Mark Milligan prior to him coming to Hibs.

Allant1981
09-01-2022, 09:08 AM
So if you were Boyle and being offered £1 million a year, you’d turn it down due to the location?

You’re a better person then me. I’d walk there and suffer the consequences as that level of salary is life changing and if he gets good advice, will set up his kids futures as well.

No brainer for me.

Not everyone is influenced by money, granted a million quid a year(if true) would be very hard to turn down but i know quite a few people(my parents included) who have turned down better paid jobs because of the location

Ronniekirk
09-01-2022, 09:13 AM
Putting aside of course the human rights violations, the arbitrary detentions for freedom of expression and the treatment of women as second class citizens under law, not oppressive in the slightest.

But when you have the wealth these countries have governments of the world turn a blind eye to that Desperate fir Their money


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Callum_62
09-01-2022, 09:15 AM
Not everyone is influenced by money, granted a million quid a year(if true) would be very hard to turn down but i know quite a few people(my parents included) who have turned down better paid jobs because of the locationThere's ' better paid jobs' and then there's getting the equivalent of £40, 000 every week

Let's say Boyle really is on 10k per week right now, less tax ofcourse

That's not a 'better paid job' that's totally life changing money

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BoomtownHibees
09-01-2022, 09:27 AM
There's ' better paid jobs' and then there's getting the equivalent of £40, 000 every week

Let's say Boyle really is on 10k per week right now, less tax ofcourse

That's not a 'better paid job' that's totally life changing money

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Who’s offering £40k a week? The story I saw was a million a year so just under £20k a week

Allant1981
09-01-2022, 09:28 AM
There's ' better paid jobs' and then there's getting the equivalent of £40, 000 every week

Let's say Boyle really is on 10k per week right now, less tax ofcourse

That's not a 'better paid job' that's totally life changing money

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Of course it is, hence why i said about the million pounds per year but there are footballers who have moved for life changing money and have came back very quickly because of the lifestyle(derek riordan if rumours are true)

Callum_62
09-01-2022, 09:28 AM
Who’s offering £40k a week? The story I saw was a million a year so just under £20k a weekWit tax implications it works out about 40k equivalent in the uk

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Steven79
09-01-2022, 09:28 AM
There's ' better paid jobs' and then there's getting the equivalent of £40, 000 every week

Let's say Boyle really is on 10k per week right now, less tax ofcourse

That's not a 'better paid job' that's totally life changing money

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkHow would it be £40,000 per week?

Surely it's £20,000?

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Steven79
09-01-2022, 09:29 AM
Wit tax implications it works out about 40k equivalent in the uk

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkWhere did it say that the million a year was after tax?

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Hibbyradge
09-01-2022, 09:30 AM
Which is it? 9 or 10?

£0.5m per annum.

Stuart93
09-01-2022, 09:30 AM
Can see shankland joining hearts

Brightside
09-01-2022, 09:32 AM
Where did it say that the million a year was after tax?

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There isn’t any tax.

Dublin07
09-01-2022, 09:33 AM
Where did it say that the million a year was after tax?

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You don’t pay tax on your earnings in the UAE.

Steven79
09-01-2022, 09:33 AM
£0.5m per annum.If he's getting paid that much per year then it would take a silly fee to make money on him.

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Steven79
09-01-2022, 09:34 AM
You don’t pay tax on your earnings in the UAE.So it would only be £20,000 per week then...

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JDT
09-01-2022, 09:35 AM
Can see shankland joining hearts

He can only go to Dundee United, played for 2 teams already this season

Callum_62
09-01-2022, 09:36 AM
So it would only be £20,000 per week then...

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalkequivalent

noun
1.
a person or thing that is equal to or corresponds with another in value, amount, function, meaning, etc.

Ergo, if Boyle moved within the UK, the offer would need to be 40k per week to match the 20k per week on offer from the middle east

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Forza Fred
09-01-2022, 09:36 AM
You don’t pay tax on your earnings in the UAE.

The Sun is saying the club is Al-Faisaly of Saudi Arabia.

The only Al Faisaly I know of is in Jordan.

Amman to be precise.

Bit of a difference between Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

Callum_62
09-01-2022, 09:37 AM
The Sun is saying the club is Al-Faisal of Saudi Arabia.

The only Al Faisal pay I know of is in Jordan.

Amman to be precise.

Bit of a difference between Jordan and Saudi Arabia.Al Jazira (UAE) is a club that's apparently in for him

I think Sheikh Mansour is involved there
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Dublin07
09-01-2022, 09:38 AM
Wit tax implications it works out about 40k equivalent in the uk

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According to an online tax calculator it’s the equivalent of 36k a week in the UK.

Since452
09-01-2022, 09:38 AM
I wonder if at the conclusion whether McCart will be part of the deal.

I hope so. We need competition for Hanlon imo.

I hope McCart is nowhere near us. Really don't rate him.

Hibbyradge
09-01-2022, 09:38 AM
So it would only be £20,000 per week then...

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Yes, but his income would be the the equivalent £40k in this country.

Or are you suggesting that if you didn't have to pay tax and NI anymore, your income would be the same as it is now?

hibby rae
09-01-2022, 09:38 AM
Spent a good few minutes scrolling through this thread trying to find the actual transfer rumours there.

So possibly Hallberg to St Johnstone then, could be life changing, but how does it compare to Chris Mueller's wages? 😂😂

Dublin07
09-01-2022, 09:41 AM
So it would only be £20,000 per week then...

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Yes but if they had the same tax system as us it would be between 36-40k per week with pension, ni etc

GreenPJ
09-01-2022, 09:42 AM
I was told that Mueller has been bought to be sold. Speculate to accumulate and all. Hibs see a big profit in him.

If Mueller is still here in 1.5 years, then it'll be because he's flopped.

:agree: which is why at his age and the decision to buy to sell he really needs to get into first team asap and hit the ground running.

hibbyfraelibby
09-01-2022, 09:45 AM
I was told that Mueller has been bought to be sold. Speculate to accumulate and all. Hibs see a big profit in him.

If Mueller is still here in 1.5 years, then it'll be because he's flopped.

Every player Hibs sign for a transfer fee is brought in to be sold on at a profit. It is thd business model we have had for a long time. Under Ron Gordon the initial outlay is higher to operate in a better pool with better sell on returns. The club succeeds on the park by the higher standard of the recruits but its a conveyor belt. You incrementally build the standard and incrementally reap the transfer income rewards to re-invest.

If you think any club just splurges money on players to but success in Scottish Football then you are a Jambo😉

Gmack7
09-01-2022, 09:47 AM
Hallberg 6 months left on his contract and apparently wanted by St Johnstone.
McCart 6 months left on his contract and apparently wanted by Hibs. 2 + 2 =??

Forza Fred
09-01-2022, 09:56 AM
The Sun is saying the club is Al-Faisaly of Saudi Arabia.

The only Al Faisaly I know of is in Jordan.

Amman to be precise.

Bit of a difference between Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

Ignore above….apparently there is one in Saudi Arabia too!

NC1875
09-01-2022, 09:57 AM
Hallberg 6 months left on his contract and apparently wanted by St Johnstone.
McCart 6 months left on his contract and apparently wanted by Hibs. 2 + 2 =??

Be better with a horse and cart. McCart is not good enough, Jason Kerr was the one we missed our on IMO

Dalianwanda
09-01-2022, 09:59 AM
Hallberg 6 months left on his contract and apparently wanted by St Johnstone.
McCart 6 months left on his contract and apparently wanted by Hibs. 2 + 2 =??

I wonder how much they will be offering him after tax?

Greenworld
09-01-2022, 10:08 AM
I don’t know about all clubs but a £3m signing would only be Al Jazira’s 13th highest transfer fee paid, however it’s been over 5 years since a bigger outlay.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/al-jazira-abu-dhabi-/transferrekorde/verein/2524Interesting read . Unsettling story for Boyle but without a 3 / 4 million bid there is no story or decission for him to make.

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hibby rae
09-01-2022, 10:12 AM
Be better with a horse and cart. McCart is not good enough, Jason Kerr was the one we missed our on IMO

McCart hasn't been amazing this season, compared to the previous, but none of their players have. He had a very good year last season, it wasn't all down to Jason Kerr. Although I agree if I was able to pick one I'd go for Kerr.

St Johnstone still have a decent enough defensive record this season (I think), they just have no creativity and can't score goals.

blackpoolhibs
09-01-2022, 10:12 AM
So if you were Boyle and being offered £1 million a year, you’d turn it down due to the location?

You’re a better person then me. I’d walk there and suffer the consequences as that level of salary is life changing and if he gets good advice, will set up his kids futures as well.

No brainer for me.

Me too, in fact i'd walk over broken glass to get there.

Since452
09-01-2022, 10:17 AM
So if you were Boyle and being offered £1 million a year, you’d turn it down due to the location?

You’re a better person then me. I’d walk there and suffer the consequences as that level of salary is life changing and if he gets good advice, will set up his kids futures as well.

No brainer for me.

It's life changing money to you and me but he's already earning 20k plus per month and is settled with a young family. A lot to weigh up.

500miles
09-01-2022, 10:22 AM
McCart hasn't been amazing this season, compared to the previous, but none of their players have. He had a very good year last season, it wasn't all down to Jason Kerr. Although I agree if I was able to pick one I'd go for Kerr.

St Johnstone still have a decent enough defensive record this season (I think), they just have no creativity and can't score goals.

We are in a similar position in that respect. A lot of criticism for our back 3, but our goals against record is 4th best in the league and we're bottom 6 for goals.

St. Johnstone aren't leaking stacks of goals, but they are creating absolutely nothing. Games they won by a goal last season they are now losing by a goal.

sean04
09-01-2022, 10:25 AM
Hibs business model is to bring in young players with a view that we can develop and sell on for a profit. If we can sign a nisbet for example for 250k and sell for 3mill then that seems like a pretty solid business plan . Boyle on a free potential sell for 3 Mill. Luckily now we have Ron gordan at the helm who will reinvest in the squad. To many times in the past we have sold players and refused to spend to replace them, ending up with free transfers who have ultimately not been upto standard

SHODAN
09-01-2022, 10:25 AM
I'd sign McCart if he played for St Mirren.

MWHIBBIES
09-01-2022, 10:28 AM
Hibs business model is to bring in young players with a view that we can develop and sell on for a profit. If we can sign a nisbet for example for 250k and sell for 3mill then that seems like a pretty solid business plan . Boyle on a free potential sell for 3 Mill. Luckily now we have Ron gordan at the helm who will reinvest in the squad. To many times in the past we have sold players and refused to spend to replace them, ending up with free transfers who have ultimately not been upto standard

We haven't done that since our relegation. We consistently spent money even in the championship, brining in top spl players.

Callum_62
09-01-2022, 10:31 AM
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8ocVm8e/

Did hibs know...

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hibby rae
09-01-2022, 10:35 AM
We are in a similar position in that respect. A lot of criticism for our back 3, but our goals against record is 4th best in the league and we're bottom 6 for goals.

St. Johnstone aren't leaking stacks of goals, but they are creating absolutely nothing. Games they won by a goal last season they are now losing by a goal.

Agreed, fortunately for us that blip should be behind us now

They haven't been able to replace the vital players they lost, the permanent signing of Ali Crawford didn't go down well. Chris Kane has never scored double figures in his career.

Would find it quite funny if they got relegated tbh

Hibbyradge
09-01-2022, 10:37 AM
It's life changing money to you and me but he's already earning 20k plus per month and is settled with a young family. A lot to weigh up.

He's only 28. He has a lot of years ahead of him so he's definitely not financially secure yet.

The biggest draw back would be that he'd most likely have to leave his family. Is his wife still playing? Would she be prepared to give that up to move to the middle east?

BlackSheep
09-01-2022, 10:41 AM
He's only 28. He has a lot of years ahead of him so he's definitely not financially secure yet.

The biggest draw back would be that he'd most likely have to leave his family. Is his wife still playing? Would she be prepared to give that up to move to the middle east?

Yeah Rachael is still playing and one of the ladies team’s best and most valuable players.

hibby rae
09-01-2022, 10:41 AM
He's only 28. He has a lot of years ahead of him so he's definitely not financially secure yet.

The biggest draw back would be that he'd most likely have to leave his family. Is his wife still playing? Would she be prepared to give that up to move to the middle east?

Hibs Women's best player and still very much part of the Scotland set up.

tonyrougier123
09-01-2022, 10:46 AM
If we sell Boyle with no direct replacement,it’s a bad decision for us,how many times have we travelled this road?not a player in our squad currently could lace his boots!I hope he stays ,one of my all time favourite players for hibs.enthusiasm,exuberance,flair .strength for a winger to take a knock and get up,plays with a smile.if boyles not a £5million player with goals assists and fouls drawn then We are under selling him.also Alex mcleish should hang his head in shame this boy pulls on an Aussie strip.

Hibs90
09-01-2022, 10:49 AM
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8ocVm8e/

Did hibs know...

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Jesus that is pure cringe

Hibbyradge
09-01-2022, 10:49 AM
Yeah Rachael is still playing and one of the ladies team’s best and most valuable players.

Martin wouldn't even consider asking her to give that up. Tbh, if she did, 2 years in a desert compound could spell disaster for their marriage, probably more so than if he was away for long stretches of time. I guess they're already used to him being away with Australia.

He'd be home as often as possible and they'd have enough money for Rachael and the bairn to fly out whenever was convenient.

Also, communication is simple these days with things like Zoom and WhatsApp. I think it would work.

I'd love him to end his career at Hibs, but I like the man so much, I'd also be happy for him if he became a multi millionaire.

Real Emerald
09-01-2022, 11:02 AM
If we sell Boyle with no direct replacement,it’s a bad decision for us,how many times have we travelled this road?not a player in our squad currently could lace his boots!I hope he stays ,one of my all time favourite players for hibs.enthusiasm,exuberance,flair .strength for a winger to take a knock and get up,plays with a smile.if boyles not a £5million player with goals assists and fouls drawn then We are under selling him.also Alex mcleish should hang his head in shame this boy pulls on an Aussie strip.

I agree, it seems that folk are more concerned with the size of Martin Boyles future retirement fund than the damage it does to Hibs if he leaves. He will be very difficult to replace as he’s worth more than £3m to us on the park. He signed a very good contract at Hibs and said he was happy to be here with his family, getting games and repaying Hibs for all his time off through injury. Sometimes moving for money doesn’t always end well.

hibby rae
09-01-2022, 11:06 AM
I agree, it seems that folk are more concerned with the size of Martin Boyles future retirement fund than the damage it does to Hibs if he leaves. He will be very difficult to replace as he’s worth more than £3m to us on the park. He signed a very good contract at Hibs and said he was happy to be here with his family, getting games and repaying Hibs for all his time off through injury. Sometimes moving for money doesn’t always end well.

Garry O'Connor cited the big money move to a different, and isolating, environment, as the beginnings of his mental health issues when he's spoken about them publicly.

Since452
09-01-2022, 11:07 AM
I agree, it seems that folk are more concerned with the size of Martin Boyles future retirement fund than the damage it does to Hibs if he leaves. He will be very difficult to replace as he’s worth more than £3m to us on the park. He signed a very good contract at Hibs and said he was happy to be here with his family, getting games and repaying Hibs for all his time off through injury. Sometimes moving for money doesn’t always end well.

Got to agree.

Since90+2
09-01-2022, 11:11 AM
Garry O'Connor cited the big money move to a different, and isolating, environment, as the beginnings of his mental health issues when he's spoken about them publicly.

To be fair Boyle and O'Connor seem like completely different characters. I'm not sure GOC can blame all his woes on playing in Russia.

Hibbyradge
09-01-2022, 11:14 AM
I agree, it seems that folk are more concerned with the size of Martin Boyles future retirement fund than the damage it does to Hibs if he leaves. He will be very difficult to replace as he’s worth more than £3m to us on the park. He signed a very good contract at Hibs and said he was happy to be here with his family, getting games and repaying Hibs for all his time off through injury. Sometimes moving for money doesn’t always end well.

How should we react? Tantrums? Wailing and gnashing of teeth? Abject doom and gloom?

Hibs have always sold players and we always will. In fact, there are very few clubs who allow their players to end their playing careers with them. Some can afford to keep them longer than others, but we need to sell when the time is right and for the right fee.

hibby rae
09-01-2022, 11:20 AM
To be fair Boyle and O'Connor seem like completely different characters. I'm not sure GOC can blame all his woes on playing in Russia.

Yeah everyone's different, O'Connor just said that was where his depression started and then his self-destructive behaviour followed on. Tbf I don't remember him getting in any bother in his first Hibs spell, unlike Riordan. Probably was out on the town a lot but a lot of that team were.

Callum_62
09-01-2022, 11:21 AM
I agree, it seems that folk are more concerned with the size of Martin Boyles future retirement fund than the damage it does to Hibs if he leaves. He will be very difficult to replace as he’s worth more than £3m to us on the park. He signed a very good contract at Hibs and said he was happy to be here with his family, getting games and repaying Hibs for all his time off through injury. Sometimes moving for money doesn’t always end well.Isn't meuller his likley replacement anyway?

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Real Emerald
09-01-2022, 11:21 AM
How should we react? Tantrums? Wailing and gnashing of teeth? Abject doom and gloom?

Hibs have always sold players and we always will. In fact, there are very few clubs who allow their players to end their playing careers with them. Some can afford to keep them longer than others, but we need to sell when the time is right and for the right fee.

We don’t need to sell him though. We spent a long time negotiating a very good deal for him and his family, if we need money then sell Doug, Nisbet or Porteous as these are much easier to replace. If he says he wants to leave and Hibs get their valuation then that’s probably that and he’ll be off though.

Reading through the posts on here it’s as if folk want him to go rather than trying to keep him.

hibbysam
09-01-2022, 11:21 AM
I agree, it seems that folk are more concerned with the size of Martin Boyles future retirement fund than the damage it does to Hibs if he leaves. He will be very difficult to replace as he’s worth more than £3m to us on the park. He signed a very good contract at Hibs and said he was happy to be here with his family, getting games and repaying Hibs for all his time off through injury. Sometimes moving for money doesn’t always end well.

I think most people see MB as a decent guy, who has had injuries, and has done so much for Hibs that he wouldn’t be grudged a move that would change his life.

In what way is he worth more than £3m to Hibs on the park? He alone wouldn’t get us into a position where we would gain that sort of money. He’s not saving us from relegation, he’s not going to single handedly get us into the group stages of European football. While I wouldn’t sell him cheaper than that, £3m would be a huge amount of money for him.

hibby rae
09-01-2022, 11:23 AM
I think most people see MB as a decent guy, who has had injuries, and has done so much for Hibs that he wouldn’t be grudged a move that would change his life.

In what way is he worth more than £3m to Hibs on the park? He alone wouldn’t get us into a position where we would gain that sort of money. He’s not saving us from relegation, he’s not going to single handedly get us into the group stages of European football. While I wouldn’t sell him cheaper than that, £3m would be a huge amount of money for him.

Scottish Cup win or 3rd place will be a European group stage this season, and we aren't that far off Hearts.

Real Emerald
09-01-2022, 11:23 AM
Isn't meuller his likley replacement anyway?

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No one knows what Mueller’s impact will be until he plays in this league. I hope he’s good but replacing Boyle is a steep challenge. I’d rather they were both here so we can improve.

Real Emerald
09-01-2022, 11:25 AM
I think most people see MB as a decent guy, who has had injuries, and has done so much for Hibs that he wouldn’t be grudged a move that would change his life.

In what way is he worth more than £3m to Hibs on the park? He alone wouldn’t get us into a position where we would gain that sort of money. He’s not saving us from relegation, he’s not going to single handedly get us into the group stages of European football. While I wouldn’t sell him cheaper than that, £3m would be a huge amount of money for him.

Ah we’ll just sell him then. I’m sure every other team in the league will also be delighted he’s away.

SRHibs
09-01-2022, 11:27 AM
Boyle has been great, but £3m is a huge amount of money for a 28 year old whose main strength is his pace.

hibbysam
09-01-2022, 11:30 AM
Ah we’ll just sell him then. I’m sure every other team in the league will also be delighted he’s away.

Every player has a value, you sound more like a Martin Boyle fan than a Hibs fan. I love the guy but if it makes us better overall rather than relying on him week after week (and when he doesn’t perform we struggle) then I’m all for it. He deserves it and so do we if we pick up £3m+ for him.

Steven79
09-01-2022, 11:32 AM
Boyle has been great, but £3m is a huge amount of money for a 28 year old whose main strength is his pace.

I think the right decision (using my head rather than heart) is is to cash in on him and keep reinvesting in young players.

Long term it's the best choice for the club and gets him a big pay day before he retires or starts to go downhill.

Real Emerald
09-01-2022, 11:32 AM
Boyle has been great, but £3m is a huge amount of money for a 28 year old whose main strength is his pace.

His main strength is his pace? What about his assists, goal scoring, excitement, winning free kicks and scoring a hat trick in a cup semi against the current champions to get into a final. I’m shocked at the way people seem happy for him to go for £3m. But everyone has their own opinions.

Unseen work
09-01-2022, 11:34 AM
Personally think Hallberg would be really good for another Scottish team where he plays week in week out.

Would take McCart as part of it, think he’s a very decent left sided centre half as part of a back 3.

Form has dipped but think he’d do well here.

Steven79
09-01-2022, 11:35 AM
His main strength is his pace? What about his assists, goal scoring, excitement, winning free kicks and scoring a hat trick in a cup semi against the current champions to get into a final. I’m shocked at the way people seem happy for him to go for £3m. But everyone has their own opinions.

Nobody is happy for him to go but it's probably makes sense for both parties with the sums of money being talked about.

I'm 100% sure that it will be spent to further improve the team and think what we could do with that amount of money.

bigwheel
09-01-2022, 11:35 AM
I still can’t get over the number of posters who seem relaxed for Boyle being sold . I’m a fan, I don’t care about 2 or 3M in the bank. I want to keep our best players and win games this season …Boyle is right up there as one of our best players . I hope he stays for years to come .

Real Emerald
09-01-2022, 11:35 AM
Every player has a value, you sound more like a Martin Boyle fan than a Hibs fan. I love the guy but if it makes us better overall rather than relying on him week after week (and when he doesn’t perform we struggle) then I’m all for it. He deserves it and so do we if we pick up £3m+ for him.

Martin Boyle is one of the best players in the league and as a HIBS FAN, I want Hibs to have the best players in the league.

easty
09-01-2022, 11:37 AM
His main strength is his pace? What about his assists, goal scoring, excitement, winning free kicks and scoring a hat trick in a cup semi against the current champions to get into a final. I’m shocked at the way people seem happy for him to go for £3m. But everyone has their own opinions.

Is anyone “happy” to see him go, if he in fact does go?

I don’t think anybody would disagree that we’re weaker without him, but every player has his price. £3m is a good price for a Hibs player, it’d be more than we got (up front) for McGinn.

Blaster
09-01-2022, 11:37 AM
His main strength is his pace? What about his assists, goal scoring, excitement, winning free kicks and scoring a hat trick in a cup semi against the current champions to get into a final. I’m shocked at the way people seem happy for him to go for £3m. But everyone has their own opinions.

I see where you are coming from. I don’t think anyone wants him to leave though.

I think Hibs are looking to be fair with him. We could have lost him for £500k or nothing if he’d ran his contract down. But he agreed a new deal with no clause. So even selling him now would mean we are in a much better place than we would have been.

I hope he stays though

Real Emerald
09-01-2022, 11:40 AM
Is anyone “happy” to see him go, if he in fact does go?

I don’t think anybody would disagree that we’re weaker without him, but every player has his price. £3m is a good price for a Hibs player, it’d be more than we got (up front) for McGinn.

And remind me who we replaced McGinn with using the money we got?

easty
09-01-2022, 11:42 AM
And remind me who we replaced McGinn with using the money we got?

What’s that got to do with it? We can’t replace our best players like for like, we’re Hibs not Man City. Like it or not, we work within a budget. We’re a selling club, just like 99% of football teams.

Callum_62
09-01-2022, 11:44 AM
I don't think anyone is flying Boyle overseas here

You have a legitimate rumour at levels of wages that will obviously peak Boyles interest and quite rightly

That alone makes the move more likely to happen IMHO and I wouldn't begrudge him earning they life changing sums of money

Isn't that just being pragmatic and realistic to the situation?

I do think if we get that 3 million for him a fair portion of that will go right back into the team too

We also can't decide who we sell. We can only sell when we get a realistic bid

Maybe Boyles is the only one we will get?

You also have to take into account footballers are human not robots.

If we reject it we want him to knuckle down and be the same player but that doenst always happen - particulary when you are doing someone out of millions of pounds of earnings


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SRHibs
09-01-2022, 11:45 AM
His main strength is his pace? What about his assists, goal scoring, excitement, winning free kicks and scoring a hat trick in a cup semi against the current champions to get into a final. I’m shocked at the way people seem happy for him to go for £3m. But everyone has their own opinions.

Yeah, his pace is largely what leads to the number of assists, goals etc. He's not getting any younger, and that pace and - as a result - value, will drop fairly quickly.

I would be happy for him to stay, but I also think £3m would be a pretty fair offer. Based on the signings we've made so far, I'd be excited to see what our recruitment team would do with that extra injection of cash.

Greenworld
09-01-2022, 11:45 AM
I see where you are coming from. I don’t think anyone wants him to leave though.

I think Hibs are looking to be fair with him. We could have lost him for £500k or nothing if he’d ran his contract down. But he agreed a new deal with no clause. So even selling him now would mean we are in a much better place than we would have been.

I hope he stays thoughThere is nothing for hibs to fair about. Since when do you negotiate wages through the press before and offer is even made to the club .
Hibs have gave a new contract and he seems delighted.
I hope none of our key players leave by that I mean Boyle, nisbet and porteous.


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Hibbyradge
09-01-2022, 11:45 AM
We don’t need to sell him though. We spent a long time negotiating a very good deal for him and his family, if we need money then sell Doug, Nisbet or Porteous as these are much easier to replace. If he says he wants to leave and Hibs get their valuation then that’s probably that and he’ll be off though.

Reading through the posts on here it’s as if folk want him to go rather than trying to keep him.

I'd rather he stayed, but a 29yo speed merchant like Martin has a relatively short shelf life at this level so I understand why Hibs might be willing to cash in now.

If the reports about the Middle East are correct, then the ball is in Martin's court because Hibs won't stand in his way. I should add, that's the correct position for Hibs to take. We're in the game of attracting young, up and coming players with a view to improving them and selling them on when the right offer comes in. If we're seen to block lucrative transfers, then players will be more reluctant to come here.

The prospect of him going to Celtc, however, is appalling and I really hope he resists that temptation, if it exists.

Real Emerald
09-01-2022, 11:45 AM
What’s that got to do with it? We can’t replace our best players like for like, we’re Hibs not Man City. Like it or not, we work within a budget. We’re a selling club, just like 99% of football teams.

It’s got a lot to do with it. Martin Boyle signed a lucrative contract to stay at Hibs. History tells us that trying to replace that talent with the transfer fee we receive has never worked. We are much better keeping him as he’s happy to be here on a big contract he signed.

Callum_62
09-01-2022, 11:46 AM
And remind me who we replaced McGinn with using the money we got?So we never sell another player and let them all walk away free?



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Stuart93
09-01-2022, 11:47 AM
And remind me who we replaced McGinn with using the money we got?

Well if you were expecting Mcginn to be replaced with another player of the same quality you were always going to be disappointed.

Let’s not forget Boyle most of his early hibs career on the bench.

WhileTheChief..
09-01-2022, 11:47 AM
If £3m is offered for Boyle we should snap it up without hesitation.

Brightside
09-01-2022, 11:48 AM
Martin wouldn't even consider asking her to give that up. Tbh, if she did, 2 years in a desert compound could spell disaster for their marriage, probably more so than if he was away for long stretches of time. I guess they're already used to him being away with Australia.

He'd be home as often as possible and they'd have enough money for Rachael and the bairn to fly out whenever was convenient.

Also, communication is simple these days with things like Zoom and WhatsApp. I think it would work.

I'd love him to end his career at Hibs, but I like the man so much, I'd also be happy for him if he became a multi millionaire.

I think she’d happily put aside Hibs Women for a million pound coming into the family coffers.

Blaster
09-01-2022, 11:48 AM
There is nothing for hibs to fair about. Since when do you negotiate wages through the press before and offer is even made to the club .
Hibs have gave a new contract and he seems delighted.
I hope none of our key players leave by that I mean Boyle, nisbet and porteous.


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But Hibs have had an offer(s). You don’t believe negotiations with player’s agents only happen when an offer is accepted?

scoopyboy
09-01-2022, 11:49 AM
It’s got a lot to do with it. Martin Boyle signed a lucrative contract to stay at Hibs. History tells us that trying to replace that talent with the transfer fee we receive has never worked. We are much better keeping him as he’s happy to be here on a big contract he signed.

What would your take be if Martin Boyle wanted to go?

Brightside
09-01-2022, 11:51 AM
Isn't meuller his likley replacement anyway?

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I hope people aren’t expecting that.

WhileTheChief..
09-01-2022, 11:51 AM
Is anyone “happy” to see him go, if he in fact does go?

I don’t think anybody would disagree that we’re weaker without him, but every player has his price. £3m is a good price for a Hibs player, it’d be more than we got (up front) for McGinn.

I'd be totally fine with it, in fact I hope the deal goes through.

I don't think Boyle is nearly a good as is being made on here and he's nowhere near one of the best players in the league.

We should easily be able to spend that kind of money and get far better in.

Maybe Mueller is already here as his replacement?

Hibbyradge
09-01-2022, 11:53 AM
I think she’d happily put aside Hibs Women for a million pound coming into the family coffers.

Maybe, if that was the choice in front of her.

But it's not.

Hibbyradge
09-01-2022, 11:53 AM
What would your take be if Martin Boyle wanted to go?

Good point, Scoop.

chippy
09-01-2022, 11:54 AM
I still can’t get over the number of posters who seem relaxed for Boyle being sold . I’m a fan, I don’t care about 2 or 3M in the bank. I want to keep our best players and win games this season …Boyle is right up there as one of our best players . I hope he stays for years to come .

Some sound joyful that a rich young man is going to be even richer. The only fans that should be happy with him leaving follow Hearts, Celtic, Aberdeen, Huns ,etc

Since90+2
09-01-2022, 11:54 AM
I'd be totally fine with it, in fact I hope the deal goes through.

I don't think Boyle is nearly a good as is being made on here and he's nowhere near one of the best players in the league.

We should easily be able to spend that kind of money and get far better in.

Maybe Mueller is already here as his replacement?

Boyle is easily one of the best players in the league.

Real Emerald
09-01-2022, 11:56 AM
What would your take be if Martin Boyle wanted to go?

He’s not shown any desire to leave so until he does then great. If he says he wants to go and the valuation is met then Hibs have a decision to make not Martin Boyle, unless there is some agreement within his new contract.

I’m sure if he reads this thread he will be wanting to leave though!

B.H.F.C
09-01-2022, 11:57 AM
I'd be totally fine with it, in fact I hope the deal goes through.

I don't think Boyle is nearly a good as is being made on here and he's nowhere near one of the best players in the league.

We should easily be able to spend that kind of money and get far better in.

Maybe Mueller is already here as his replacement?

Boyle got 24 goals and 9 assists for us in 2021.

There is no way we can easily replace those types of numbers. How many other players return anywhere even close to that?

He’s easily one of the best players in the league these days.

easty
09-01-2022, 11:57 AM
It’s got a lot to do with it. Martin Boyle signed a lucrative contract to stay at Hibs. History tells us that trying to replace that talent with the transfer fee we receive has never worked. We are much better keeping him as he’s happy to be here on a big contract he signed.

And if he’s happy here, and not interested in leaving, then there’s nae discussion to be had. If he wants to stay Hibs wouldn’t force him out.

scoopyboy
09-01-2022, 12:00 PM
He’s not shown any desire to leave so until he does then great. If he says he wants to go and the valuation is met then Hibs have a decision to make not Martin Boyle, unless there is some agreement within his new contract.

I’m sure if he reads this thread he will be wanting to leave though!

You don't seem to be getting this RE, nobody is pushing him out the door and most people are saying that if he left to make his fortune then he would go with our best wishes,

If Hibs accept an offer would you blame Martin Boyle if he took it?

Since90+2
09-01-2022, 12:01 PM
Boyle got 24 goals and 9 assists for us in 2021.

There is no way we can easily replace those types of numbers. How many other players return anywhere even close to that?

He’s easily one of the best players in the league these days.

I wonder when the last time was that a Hibs player directly contributed to 33 goals in a calendar year was. Can't have happened very often, and to suggest we could easily get far better is nothing short of bonkers.

Callum_62
09-01-2022, 12:02 PM
I hope people aren’t expecting that.Why? Don't they play in similar positions?

Mueller was seen as a bit of a coup when we signed him

He will need time to adapt but I'd be very surpised if he hasn't been signed as an instant starter

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NAE NOOKIE
09-01-2022, 12:04 PM
I agree, it seems that folk are more concerned with the size of Martin Boyles future retirement fund than the damage it does to Hibs if he leaves. He will be very difficult to replace as he’s worth more than £3m to us on the park. He signed a very good contract at Hibs and said he was happy to be here with his family, getting games and repaying Hibs for all his time off through injury. Sometimes moving for money doesn’t always end well.

I don't think anybody on here wants Boyle to go mate, his value to the team is beyond question. He has the full package when it comes to being a fans favourite. Plays with a smile on his face, gives 100% even when things aren't going for him and every now and again does something brilliant as he did at Hampden a few weeks ago.

But that popularity also means on a human level folk want the best for him personally, yes he is on good money at Hibs, but there are less committed and arguably less talented players than him making more in a month than he makes in a year. They will retire knowing there's enough in the bank to see them comfortable for the rest of their lives, who wouldn't want to see that for Martin Boyle. That's why even though folk don't want to see him go if he does they will wish him well.

Real Emerald
09-01-2022, 12:05 PM
You don't seem to be getting this RE, nobody is pushing him out the door and most people are saying that if he left to make his fortune then he would go with our best wishes,

If Hibs accept an offer would you blame Martin Boyle if he took it?

Of course I wouldn’t blame him. I don’t want him to leave as £3m is not going to take us to another level. Martin Boyle along with the new recruits may well just though. We should be heaping our love on the guy begging him to stay but folk seem indifferent to him leaving. I can’t get my head around that but each to their own.

RossScott1991
09-01-2022, 12:05 PM
At 28 with a family I’d jump at that move in a heartbeat. Even 2 years sees you become multi millionaire.

And then I think he will play in Australia for abit before he retires move his family over then.

Good luck to him if it happens, his rise he deserves it.

Hibbyradge
09-01-2022, 12:05 PM
He’s not shown any desire to leave so until he does then great. If he says he wants to go and the valuation is met then Hibs have a decision to make not Martin Boyle, unless there is some agreement within his new contract.

I’m sure if he reads this thread he will be wanting to leave though!

Still trying the guilt trip patter? You sound like my ex.

I very much doubt that someone on the verge of signing a multi million pound contact is going to decide against because folk on a fans forum are distraught at the prospect of him leaving.

Please stop trying to make out you're a better supporter than folk with a different view.

People are being pragmatic. You're being emotional and blinkered and you're entitled to be, but please stop insinuating that everyone else just doesn't care enough.

Hibbyradge
09-01-2022, 12:07 PM
I don't think anybody on here wants Boyle to go mate, his value to the team is beyond question. He has the full package when it comes to being a fans favourite. Plays with a smile on his face, gives 100% even when things aren't going for him and every now and again does something brilliant as he did at Hampden a few weeks ago.

But that popularity also means on a human level folk want the best for him personally, yes he is on good money at Hibs, but there are less committed and arguably less talented players than him making more in a month than he makes in a year. They will retire knowing there's enough in the bank to see them comfortable for the rest of their lives, who wouldn't want to see that for Martin Boyle. That's why even though folk don't want to see him go if he does they will wish him well.

Spot on.

Hannah_hfc
09-01-2022, 12:08 PM
I think she’d happily put aside Hibs Women for a million pound coming into the family coffers.

I don’t think there would be anything happy about it. Still gets called up to the national team, best player for Hibs ladies and has more than enough ability to play down south if she and Martin weren’t settled here. Not necessarily something to put aside like it’s a weekly 5- a- side meet up.

If it were me, I certainly wouldn’t be happy giving all that up to move to a country where I was treated like a second class citizen. Money wouldn’t sweeten that deal.


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scoopyboy
09-01-2022, 12:08 PM
Of course I wouldn’t blame him. I don’t want him to leave as £3m is not going to take us to another level. Martin Boyle along with the new recruits may well just though. We should be heaping our love on the guy begging him to stay but folk seem indifferent to him leaving. I can’t get my head around that but each to their own.

All we can do is wait and see what happens, what will be will be.

Enjoyed our exchanges on this thread.

scoopyboy
09-01-2022, 12:10 PM
I don’t think there would be anything happy about it. Still gets called up to the national team, best player for Hibs ladies and has more than enough ability to play down south if she and Martin weren’t settled here. Not necessarily something to put aside like it’s a weekly 5- a- side meet up.

If it were me, I certainly wouldn’t be happy giving all that up to move to a country where I was treated like a second class citizen. Money wouldn’t sweeten that deal.


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She might stay here though, still gets the money and keeps her life here.

Real Emerald
09-01-2022, 12:10 PM
Still trying the guilt trip patter? You sound like my ex.

I very much doubt that someone on the verge of signing a multi million pound contact is going to decide against because folk on a fans forum are distraught at the prospect of him leaving.

Please stop trying to make out you're a better supporter than folk with a different view.

People are being pragmatic. You're being emotional and blinkered and you're entitled to be, but please stop insinuating that everyone else just doesn't care enough.

Who’s trying to be a better supporter, football is an emotional game and I know for a fact I’ll be very sad to see him leave and whole load of Jambos will be ecstatic. I’m sorry I care about trying to keep our best player.

Gaffer1875
09-01-2022, 12:16 PM
If Celtic want Boyle and are willing to pay £2.5/3m, would they ever sign Rachel too for the ladies team? That could be a win win for them - at least double salary, stay in Scotland, relocate 60 miles rather than thousands and the Mrs still gets to play football…


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Libby Hibby
09-01-2022, 12:17 PM
Who’s trying to be a better supporter, football is an emotional game and I know for a fact I’ll be very sad to see him leave and whole load of Jambos will be ecstatic. I’m sorry I care about trying to keep our best player.

What’s it got to do with Jambo’s?

B.H.F.C
09-01-2022, 12:17 PM
Who’s trying to be a better supporter, football is an emotional game and I know for a fact I’ll be very sad to see him leave and whole load of Jambos will be ecstatic. I’m sorry I care about trying to keep our best player.

I get where you’re coming from to be fair.

If we lose him it’s the biggest loss since we sold John McGinn IMO and it took us ages to recover from that on the park (some might argue we still haven’t). I think we’re in a better place to cope with the loss of Boyle but his numbers (and general contribution) over the last season and a half have been unbelievable.

hibbysam
09-01-2022, 12:19 PM
Martin Boyle is one of the best players in the league and as a HIBS FAN, I want Hibs to have the best players in the league.

And if receiving £3m for that player allows us to build a better team, rather than 1 individual then that’s what the game is all about. One day in the next couple of years we won’t have Martin Boyle, I’d rather have £3m in his place to replace him rather than heehaw and scraping around with no guarantee that he’s brought us the success that would bring in that level of money.

flash
09-01-2022, 12:19 PM
Who’s trying to be a better supporter, football is an emotional game and I know for a fact I’ll be very sad to see him leave and whole load of Jambos will be ecstatic. I’m sorry I care about trying to keep our best player.

You just did it again with your last sentence.

blackpoolhibs
09-01-2022, 12:21 PM
I don’t think there would be anything happy about it. Still gets called up to the national team, best player for Hibs ladies and has more than enough ability to play down south if she and Martin weren’t settled here. Not necessarily something to put aside like it’s a weekly 5- a- side meet up.

If it were me, I certainly wouldn’t be happy giving all that up to move to a country where I was treated like a second class citizen. Money wouldn’t sweeten that deal.


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She does not need to move anywhere near a country that would treat her like a 2nd class citizen, for Martin to recieve eye watering money.

Football players will over the course of THEIR careers, make difficult decisions every time they sign a contract.

hibbysam
09-01-2022, 12:21 PM
I don't think anybody on here wants Boyle to go mate, his value to the team is beyond question. He has the full package when it comes to being a fans favourite. Plays with a smile on his face, gives 100% even when things aren't going for him and every now and again does something brilliant as he did at Hampden a few weeks ago.

But that popularity also means on a human level folk want the best for him personally, yes he is on good money at Hibs, but there are less committed and arguably less talented players than him making more in a month than he makes in a year. They will retire knowing there's enough in the bank to see them comfortable for the rest of their lives, who wouldn't want to see that for Martin Boyle. That's why even though folk don't want to see him go if he does they will wish him well.

Superb post and sums my feelings up completely.

Hibbyradge
09-01-2022, 12:23 PM
I’m sorry I care about trying to keep our best player.

It's addictive, isn't it. Playing the victim.

You seem to have ignored all the posts from people saying that they'd rather he didn't leave.

We're all powerless to influence what will happen so there's no point in getting upset. Far better to look at the possibilities rationally.

brog
09-01-2022, 12:34 PM
As this is now the Martin Boyle thread can I just point out that virtually all the comments in the last 5 pages are based on a report in The Sun!
Cue another 5 pages of discussion on the merits of reporting in The Sun!!

Callum_62
09-01-2022, 12:36 PM
As this is now the Martin Boyle thread can I just point out that virtually all the comments in the last 5 pages are based on a report in The Sun!
Cue another 5 pages of discussion on the merits of reporting in The Sun!!I think it was mentioned a few times on the private forum before the sun report

Theres definately something going on with Boyle

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Greenworld
09-01-2022, 12:37 PM
But Hibs have had an offer(s). You don’t believe negotiations with player’s agents only happen when an offer is accepted?Thats how I thought it worked. I have not read or heard hibs had accepted any bids at 3 million plus if they have then of course the agent / player can investigate further

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J-C
09-01-2022, 12:37 PM
He’s not shown any desire to leave so until he does then great. If he says he wants to go and the valuation is met then Hibs have a decision to make not Martin Boyle, unless there is some agreement within his new contract.

I’m sure if he reads this thread he will be wanting to leave though!


I really can't get my head around where you're coming from in all this.

Boyle is Hibs best player and like most best players in a club that's not at the top or winning cup/leagues regularly, clubs will come in for them, as they did McGinn. Now no one has stated he should go but have mentioned that the money possibly on offer is life changing for him and the money we get would be very good for a 28/29 yr old, he's worked hard to get to his levels, remember he was on the bench in the cup win and was a bit part player then.

If he goes we move on, it's what we do as a club, players come and go all the time but the club remains, stop being so bloody negative about it and accept these things happen all the time. I wasn't happy when McGinn moved away but realised he'd outgrown us and needed to move upwards in his career, some players I'm gutted when they leave others are meh, it's football.

JohnM1875
09-01-2022, 12:41 PM
I still can’t get over the number of posters who seem relaxed for Boyle being sold . I’m a fan, I don’t care about 2 or 3M in the bank. I want to keep our best players and win games this season …Boyle is right up there as one of our best players . I hope he stays for years to come .

Completely agree with you. He's easily our best player and no team wants to lose their best player.

The goals for 21 pic that Hibs posted sums up how much we rely on him! He scored almost as much as our next three top scorers (Nisbet, Doidge and Magennis) combined!

Rumble de Thump
09-01-2022, 12:47 PM
It seems that no clubs have offered us acceptable amounts of money for any of our players.

007
09-01-2022, 12:51 PM
He’s not shown any desire to leave so until he does then great. If he says he wants to go and the valuation is met then Hibs have a decision to make not Martin Boyle, unless there is some agreement within his new contract.

I’m sure if he reads this thread he will be wanting to leave though!

How do you know he hasn't shown any desire to leave? For all we know he's already said he wants to go if the club get the right offer. If there have been transfer fees offered, as has been reported, then I'd happily bet his agent has been approached with an outline of what Boyle's contract would be. If the agent didn't reply with a flat out "not interested" then that is Boyle showing an element of desire to leave, even if he might also be happy to stay. A player not putting in a transfer request isn't the same as having no desire to leave.

I've heard numerous ex-players and pundits talking about how usually outline terms have been agreed through the player's agent before an approach is made to a club. It is common knowledge that tapping up happens all the time. The one time I know of that tapping up probably didn't happen was Aberdeen's last minute offer £500k for Boyle when they didn't know the £500k buy out clause only applied to clubs outside Scotland. They ended up with egg on their face.

Hibiza
09-01-2022, 12:54 PM
I don't think anybody on here wants Boyle to go mate, his value to the team is beyond question. He has the full package when it comes to being a fans favourite. Plays with a smile on his face, gives 100% even when things aren't going for him and every now and again does something brilliant as he did at Hampden a few weeks ago.Top post .

But that popularity also means on a human level folk want the best for him personally, yes he is on good money at Hibs, but there are less committed and arguably less talented players than him making more in a month than he makes in a year. They will retire knowing there's enough in the bank to see them comfortable for the rest of their lives, who wouldn't want to see that for Martin Boyle. That's why even though folk don't want to see him go if he does they will wish him well.
Top post .

oneone73
09-01-2022, 12:59 PM
She might stay here though, still gets the money and keeps her life here.

She'd effectively be a single mum for long spells. Might no be so easy to maintain a full-time, international career.

gbhibby
09-01-2022, 12:59 PM
If Martin goes good luck to him,you have to look after no 1. As long as the club get a decent fee.The middle east would be ideal for him travelling for international games. Would love him to stay but £40k per week tax free,I know what I would do.

King Cosell
09-01-2022, 12:59 PM
It seems that no clubs have offered us acceptable amounts of money for any of our players.

So let's discuss how they'll settle in random countries! Will the MLS suit Josh Doig? Is Turkey the right move for Kevin Nisbet? Will Big Ryan freeze his knackers of in Russia?

007
09-01-2022, 01:01 PM
And remind me who we replaced McGinn with using the money we got?

Not comparable as different regimes running the club. How Ron Gordon allows transfer income to be spent is not the same as how Sir Tom Farmer did. Whilst we should obviously be grateful to STF for what he did, he wasn't trying to grow the club in the same way Ron is.

King Cosell
09-01-2022, 01:03 PM
So let's discuss how they'll settle in random countries! Will the MLS suit Josh Doig? Is Turkey the right move for Kevin Nisbet? Will Big Ryan freeze his knackers of in Russia?

*off

And the tabloids probably got their Boyle tales off here.

MWHIBBIES
09-01-2022, 01:10 PM
I don't think anyone is flying Boyle overseas here

You have a legitimate rumour at levels of wages that will obviously peak Boyles interest and quite rightly

That alone makes the move more likely to happen IMHO and I wouldn't begrudge him earning they life changing sums of money

Isn't that just being pragmatic and realistic to the situation?

I do think if we get that 3 million for him a fair portion of that will go right back into the team too

We also can't decide who we sell. We can only sell when we get a realistic bid

Maybe Boyles is the only one we will get?

You also have to take into account footballers are human not robots.

If we reject it we want him to knuckle down and be the same player but that doenst always happen - particulary when you are doing someone out of millions of pounds of earnings


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We would not be doing him out of anything. We'd be expecting him to honor a contract he agreed to.

Boyle is not going to force this move IMO. He would absolutely not have signed a new deal with no release if he was desperate to go.

007
09-01-2022, 01:19 PM
Who’s trying to be a better supporter, football is an emotional game and I know for a fact I’ll be very sad to see him leave and whole load of Jambos will be ecstatic. I’m sorry I care about trying to keep our best player.

If you're that bothered about what Jambos think then just point out they're on the verge of selling one of their best players for peanuts and we'll be getting up to £3m for Boyle who's 3 and half years older than Souttar. We could be getting 10 times what they get for Souttar.

Billy Whizz
09-01-2022, 01:21 PM
It seems that no clubs have offered us acceptable amounts of money for any of our players.

At the moment we’ve got the 2nd biggest squad in the League (31 players) after Celtic
We must have plans for at least 5/6 to move on in this window if we’re looking at a centre back

Stuart93
09-01-2022, 01:22 PM
We would not be doing him out of anything. We'd be expecting him to honor a contract he agreed to.

Boyle is not going to force this move IMO. He would absolutely not have signed a new deal with no release if he was desperate to go.

Don’t think he’s desperate to go but anyone who’s getting that kind of money dangled in front of them is naturally going to have their head turned imo

Stuart93
09-01-2022, 01:23 PM
At the moment we’ve got the 2nd biggest squad in the League (31 players) after Celtic
We must have plans for at least 5/6 to move on in this window if we’re looking at a centre back

Really?? That’s surprising. I would’ve thought Rangers Aberdeen & Hearts all had bigger squads than us

hibbyfraelibby
09-01-2022, 01:26 PM
Really?? That’s surprising. I would’ve thought Rangers Aberdeen & Hearts all had bigger squads than us
They do...

Billy Whizz
09-01-2022, 01:27 PM
Really?? That’s surprising. I would’ve thought Rangers Aberdeen & Hearts all had bigger squads than us

Rangers 30 and Dons 27

HendoDelivered
09-01-2022, 01:27 PM
I'd be totally fine with it, in fact I hope the deal goes through.

I don't think Boyle is nearly a good as is being made on here and he's nowhere near one of the best players in the league.

We should easily be able to spend that kind of money and get far better in.

Maybe Mueller is already here as his replacement?

Scary logic.

easty
09-01-2022, 01:31 PM
We would not be doing him out of anything. We'd be expecting him to honor a contract he agreed to.

Boyle is not going to force this move IMO. He would absolutely not have signed a new deal with no release if he was desperate to go.

Football doesn’t really work like that though, players get transferred while under contract all the time.

We just signed Melkerson, but I don’t think he forced the move.

04Sauzee
09-01-2022, 01:32 PM
They do...

Hearts squad is much reduced, I'm sure we have a larger squad than them at the moment, may be different when we come out of the Jan window mind.

blackpoolhibs
09-01-2022, 01:36 PM
We would not be doing him out of anything. We'd be expecting him to honor a contract he agreed to.

Boyle is not going to force this move IMO. He would absolutely not have signed a new deal with no release if he was desperate to go.

You have not got a clue on how the contract talks went, for all you know there could be a gentlemans agreement if a certain amount of money is offered then the club wouldnt stand in his way.

It does not have to be written down.

WhileTheChief..
09-01-2022, 01:44 PM
I wonder when the last time was that a Hibs player directly contributed to 33 goals in a calendar year was. Can't have happened very often, and to suggest we could easily get far better is nothing short of bonkers.

Bonkers to think we can't do any better than Martin Boyle??

Fair do's, I can live with that.

We'll move on and do fine without him.

neil7908
09-01-2022, 01:45 PM
You have not got a clue on how the contract talks went, for all you know there could be a gentlemans agreement if a certain amount of money is offered then the club wouldnt stand in his way.

It does not have to be written down.

You mean the same kind gentlemans agreement that Harry Kane and Spurs had? The one that proved totally useless when push came to shove.

MWHIBBIES
09-01-2022, 01:45 PM
I think she’d happily put aside Hibs Women for a million pound coming into the family coffers.

I certainly wouldn't be happy giving up my life for a few bob. Plenty things more important than money. If Boyles rumoured wages are true, hes really not miles off that money a year when you take bonuses into account.

Hibbyradge
09-01-2022, 01:47 PM
You have not got a clue on how the contract talks went, for all you know there could be a gentlemans agreement if a certain amount of money is offered then the club wouldnt stand in his way.



I would think that's a certainty.

In any case, keeping a player against their will is not clever management.

People like Jim McLean used to do that. We ended up with the Bosman ruling.

Stuart93
09-01-2022, 01:51 PM
Rangers 30 and Dons 27

Not sure where you got those numbers but had a quick look at Rangers’ first team squad for this season and it has 37 players listed

Since90+2
09-01-2022, 01:52 PM
Bonkers to think we can't do any better than Martin Boyle??

Fair do's, I can live with that.

We'll move on and do fine without him.

Did you not say far better? Boyle directly contributed to 33 goals in 2021. How many players have matched that in the last 2 decades at Hibs?

silverhibee
09-01-2022, 01:52 PM
I certainly wouldn't be happy giving up my life for a few bob. Plenty things more important than money. If Boyles rumoured wages are true, hes really not miles off that money a year when you take bonuses into account.

He may double his money, maybe even more by going abroad for a few years and it would be tax free, I’m sure he would consider it, he would be mad not to.

Hibbyradge
09-01-2022, 01:54 PM
I certainly wouldn't be happy giving up my life for a few bob. Plenty things more important than money. If Boyles rumoured wages are true, hes really not miles off that money a year when you take bonuses into account.

He is miles off it.

Taxation and NI means he'd lose nearly 50% of that salary in the UK.

Let's assume he's on one of the highest hibs.net estimates (guesses) i.e. £500k p.a.

His take home from that would be £276,035.84.

He'll keep it all in the middle east i.e. £1m or over £80k per month.

Since90+2
09-01-2022, 01:55 PM
I certainly wouldn't be happy giving up my life for a few bob. Plenty things more important than money. If Boyles rumoured wages are true, hes really not miles off that money a year when you take bonuses into account.

If it's correct Boyle is on 10k a year his take home pay will be around £260k (before bonuses). If the figure of 20k per week is correct he'd be taking home £1 million a year, £750,000 a year more than he does at the moment.

Hibbyradge
09-01-2022, 01:56 PM
If it's correct Boyle is on 10k a year his take home pay will be around £260k (before bonuses). If the figure of 20k per week is correct he'd be taking home £1 million a year, £750,000 a year more than he does at the moment.

Correct. (£10k a week though).