Winter 2021-22 transfer thread

[Unseen work]

I know he’s not the best player or the answer to a starting slot, but I think we’ve really missed Hallberg.

He’s big, physical, mobile and looks after the ball really well. He’s a very good option to rotate the squad with or bring on.

[Fergus52]

I know he’s not the best player or the answer to a starting slot, but I think we’ve really missed Hallberg.

He’s big, physical, mobile and looks after the ball really well. He’s a very good option to rotate the squad with or bring on.

Yeah, assuming his wages aren't too high I'd definitely want to be keeping him as backup

[Torto7]

Along with Raith, Killie and at least 2 English teams. I think we'll look for a nominal fee with a % of any future sale. It's strange how football works, 21 months ago I saw our Development team take apart a decent Brentford team. Oli Shaw scored both our goals, Jamie G was IMO, our best player by a mile. Meanwhile Josh Campbell, despite having a great attitude, was, again IMO, one of our poorer performers.

Yeah i remember watching that game. Shanley impressed me. I think Campbell is extremely fit. The kid covers the ground which is vital for pressing nowadays.

[J-C]

Jack says some players will be leaving us in January to ‘balance the squad’ (source: EEN).

So who’s out the door then?

Possibly Wright, seeing as Mueller is coming in.

Maybe Mackie on loan to get some much needed game time and I'd expect Scott to go back to Hull.

[greenlex]

I expect Gullan to go.

[Jones28]

I expect Gullan to go.

He isn’t even in the squad tonight, I’ll bet he’s banging on the door to leave.

[Brummie_Hibs]

Jack says some players will be leaving us in January to ‘balance the squad’ (source: EEN).

So who’s out the door then?
I've been told Nibet and Allan and others...

Source: friend of a friend who works at ER, close to team.

[MWHIBBIES]

I've been told Nibet and Allan and others...

Source: friend of a friend who works at ER, close to team.

How would selling a striker balance the squad? Nisbet going nowhere and if he was, certainly wouldn't be agreed now with zero speculation.

[Torto7]

Nisbet and Allan aren't going in January. Zero chance.

[ahibby]

Nisbet and Allan aren't going in January. Zero chance.

Tonight when JDH tired Halberg would have been an alright sub. So he could stay Wright and Gogic surplus

[JimBHibees]

He isn’t even in the squad tonight, I’ll bet he’s banging on the door to leave.

Assume Gullan must have been injured as he played well Saturday

[HH81]

Nisbet and Allan aren't going in January. Zero chance.

Allan almost left last window. Bet there is a high chance he will go.

[BlackSheep]

Allan almost left last window. Bet there is a high chance he will go.

I wouldn’t put it down as Allan almost left, he was almost sold by the club, but I don’t for one minute think he wanted to leave…. And that whole debacle is the kick up the arse he needed to start training harder and break into the team, which he did… I don’t see him leaving this window.

[B.H.F.C]

I wouldn’t put it down as Allan almost left, he was almost sold by the club, but I don’t for one minute think he wanted to leave…. And that whole debacle is the kick up the arse he needed to start training harder and break into the team, which he did… I don’t see him leaving this window.

Unless something happens and he starts getting more minutes on the park then I think he’ll be away.

We only seem to be prepared to use him when we go behind in a game at the moment.

[Callum_62]

If we can do a deal for mcgrath or similar I'd expect Scott to go

Think what might depend on Mcgennis too

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[J-C]

I can imaging Allan will be getting frustrated with his game time, whether he leaves this window or at the end of his contract is another matter. As has been said, Ross just seems to want to play him as an impact sub with the odd few minutes here and there, it all depends where Scotty sees himself playing, he may have to drop to a lesser team to get the game time he wants.

[CentreLine]

I've been told Nibet and Allan and others...

Source: friend of a friend who works at ER, close to team.

🎣

[IncredibleHibee]

Gullan had a deal in place with Killie to leave in the summer but because we ended up not getting anyone in we had to stop the move. Apparently Gullan was pretty disappointed as understandably wants to play. Not sure if that deal is still on the table

[J-C]

Gullan had a deal in place with Killie to leave in the summer but because we ended up not getting anyone in we had to stop the move. Apparently Gullan was pretty disappointed as understandably wants to play. Not sure if that deal is still on the table


Possibly with Doidge fit again, Mackay also back training and Mueller joining, Gullan will be surplus and allowed to leave.

[Forza Fred]

I will be very surprised if there are no enquires about Martin Boyle in the January window.

[MrRobot]

If we can do a deal for mcgrath or similar I'd expect Scott to go

Think what might depend on Mcgennis too

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Scott was a ridiculously poor signing, really hope we let him leave in january and get better in

[Dazzjw1875]

27 days until window opens and I don't think I've heard or seen us linked with anyone, hopefully keeping it under wraps I'm sure we have deals in place already surely.

[MWHIBBIES]

I will be very surprised if there are no enquires about Martin Boyle in the January window.

Can't see it. Worth more to Hibs than he is to anyone else. Would cost big money with his new deal.

[JimBHibees]

Scott was a ridiculously poor signing, really hope we let him leave in january and get better in

Is he not referring to Scott Allan?

[04Sauzee]

27 days until window opens and I don't think I've heard or seen us linked with anyone, hopefully keeping it under wraps I'm sure we have deals in place already surely.

Think we were linked with Stuart Findlay by Scott Burns a week or two ago.

[Jim44]

I wouldn’t put it down as Allan almost left, he was almost sold by the club, but I don’t for one minute think he wanted to leave…. And that whole debacl
e is the kick up the arse he needed to start training harder and break into the team, which he did… I don’t see him leaving this window.


Unless something happens and he starts getting more minutes on the park then I think he’ll be away.

We only seem to be prepared to use him when we go behind in a game at the moment.

:agree: I think he’ll be away this window, if there is a club which will give him more game time.

[SMAXXA]

I wouldn’t put it down as Allan almost left, he was almost sold by the club, but I don’t for one minute think he wanted to leave…. And that whole debacle is the kick up the arse he needed to start training harder and break into the team, which he did… I don’t see him leaving this window.

No he wasn’t him leaving in the last window was a loan deal not sold at all

[Brightside]

I expect Allan, Gullan and Hallberg to go. And drey if he can get a move. 2 more in on top of the 2 already signed. Striker and a CB.

[davhibby]

I can imaging Allan will be getting frustrated with his game time, whether he leaves this window or at the end of his contract is another matter. As has been said, Ross just seems to want to play him as an impact sub with the odd few minutes here and there, it all depends where Scotty sees himself playing, he may have to drop to a lesser team to get the game time he wants.

That’s because he’s not anything more than a good member of the squad now. He could start a game every now and then but he’s best utilised off the bench. I think whether or not he’s here next season will be down to how he feels about that and if he wants to drop to a bottom 6 side to try for more game time

[Cod Boy]

Martin Boyle hat trick would have highlighted him to other teams

[MWHIBBIES]

Allan sat at Celtic doing bugger all for years, I don't think he'll be raging about being a good squad player for Hibs.

[MWHIBBIES]

Martin Boyle hat trick would have highlighted him to other teams

He's a well known quality player in this league. He's been available multiple times for way less than his value and he's still here, and signed a new deal. Boyle is one of the least likely to leave.

[Cod Boy]

He's a well known quality player in this league. He's been available multiple times for way less than his value and he's still here, and signed a new deal. Boyle is one of the least likely to leave.

I hope you are right

[MrRobot]

Is he not referring to Scott Allan?

That would make sense :greengrin

[jeffers]

:agree: I think he’ll be away this window, if there is a club which will give him more game time.

Agreed, he’ll be away this window if something can be sorted whether on loan or permanent. He has no future at Hibs and will want game time to help him get a contract elsewhere.

[JimBHibees]

That would make sense :greengrin

:greengrin

[mal]

He's a well known quality player in this league. He's been available multiple times for way less than his value and he's still here, and signed a new deal. Boyle is one of the least likely to leave.

Agreed. The idea that clubs need to be alerted to his quality by his performance in a single game is absurd.

[Franck Stanton]

Allan almost left last window. Bet there is a high chance he will go.

Allan was going to St Mirren on loan, not a permanent transfer.

[Potty78]

Allan was going to St Mirren on loan, not a permanent transfer.

Thought him and Wright were a swap deal with McGrath 🤷*♂️

[bigwheel]

Thought him and Wright were a swap deal with McGrath [emoji1745]*[emoji3603]

No. Hibs were paying big money for McGrath , plus reducing the impact on saints by providing two players for the rest of the season

[MWHIBBIES]

Allan was going to St Mirren on loan, not a permanent transfer.

His contract would've been up at the end of the loan, so he was basically away.

[jacomo]

Can't see it. Worth more to Hibs than he is to anyone else. Would cost big money with his new deal.


Thankfully Martin seems well settled at Hibs.

[Inconsequential]

Thankfully Martin seems well settled at Hibs. Beware! Does he look happy? Does he look settled? :greengrin

[hibeejeebies]

Beware! Does he look happy? Does he look settled? :greengrin

😁

[Torto7]

I was told by an agent of Jambo loyalty that Allan and Porteous are signing new contracts?

[Heisenberg]

I was told by an agent of Jambo loyalty that Allan and Porteous are signing new contracts?

I was told the opposite about Porteous. Hopefully he signs.

[007]

I see the cup final unsettle Hibs players transfer stories have started already.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/celtic-tipped-sign-hibs-star-25608798

[Since452]

I see the cup final unsettle Hibs players transfer stories have started already.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/celtic-tipped-sign-hibs-star-25608798

Stopped reading at "Davie Provan believes".

[southern hibby]

It’s not just the papers at it. Celtic fan I know seems to think Celtic will bid between 1.5- 2 mill for Boyle, ( wait for it ) as they want to get fans in Australia buying their strips.

If that’s why they’re after Boyle and not for his footballing ability, games goosed.

GGTTH

[Unseen work]

I see the cup final unsettle Hibs players transfer stories have started already.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/celtic-tipped-sign-hibs-star-25608798

Please get that man a job at Celtic somewhere.

I’d bite your hand off for 3 million.

[blackpoolhibs]

Please get that man a job at Celtic somewhere.

I’d bite your hand off for 3 million.

Me too.:agree:

[worcesterhibby]

I'd like to see us put in a bid for Cole Stockton at Morecambe, we have seen how much we've missed having Doidge up top, and Stockton is a very similar player. Great scoring record this season. Fair old unit, and knows how to finish.Would be good to have two players fighting for that position.

[easty]

I'd like to see us put in a bid for Karl Stockton at Morecambe, we have seen how much we've missed having Doidge up top, and Stockton is a very similar player. Great scoring record this season. Fair old unit, and knows how to finish.Would be good to have two players fighting for that position.

Cole Stockton. The same Cole the Goal Stockton who was horse **** at Hearts.

[worcesterhibby]

Cole Stockton. The same Cole the Goal Stockton who was horse **** at Hearts.

Plenty of players improve and do better at different clubs but I admit, I'd forgotten he was at Hearts.

[Unseen work]

I'd like to see us put in a bid for Cole Stockton at Morecambe, we have seen how much we've missed having Doidge up top, and Stockton is a very similar player. Great scoring record this season. Fair old unit, and knows how to finish.Would be good to have two players fighting for that position.

You mean Cole Stockton that used to be at Hearts?

Was he not brutal?

I’d like to see us go for a striker with a bit about him, capable of skinning a defender or whipping one into the top corner.

[worcesterhibby]

You mean Cole Stockton that used to be at Hearts?

Was he not brutal?

I’d like to see us go for a striker with a bit about him, capable of skinning a defender or whipping one into the top corner.

We all would, but their not always easy to find/ pay for. Stockton has had by far his best season ever this year. But as I've admitted above, I'd actually forgotten he played a dozen games for Hearts. So ignore me.

[eastmainsmsh]

Tony Watt would offer something different up front hope we try and get McGrath again

[A Hi-Bee]

Tony Watt would offer something different up front hope we try and get McGrath again

Would rather see big Magabi at Easter Road rapid over the ground and not bad in the air.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Tony Watt would offer something different up front hope we try and get McGrath again

Agreed, Watt was an absolute pest today

[Gmack7]

Cole Stockton. The same Cole the Goal Stockton who was horse **** at Hearts.

Tony watt was horse **** at hearts but I'd take him

[Nevi_SOL]

McGinn to Man Utd rumoured at £50m

I know it’s not directly a hibs rumour but one we’d benefit from.
Disclaimer: this has not to turn into a “how much is hibs sell on?” Debate 😂

[GloryGlory]

McGinn to Man Utd rumoured at £50m

I know it’s not directly a hibs rumour but one we’d benefit from.
Disclaimer: this has not to turn into a “how much is hibs sell on?” Debate 😂

If they get Pogba off the books. It's been said on here before that McGinn has his admirers at Utd - Sir Alex Ferguson among them. Depends what the new manager wants, I suppose.

[Gmack7]

If they get Pogba off the books. It's been said on here before that McGinn has his admirers at Utd - Sir Alex Ferguson among them. Depends what the new manager wants, I suppose.

In the report I read(no quotes)they were also looking at Philips from Leeds and Rice from West ham, I hope the go for SJM

[thebausburst]

McGinn to Man Utd rumoured at £50m

I know it’s not directly a hibs rumour but one we’d benefit from.
Disclaimer: this has not to turn into a “how much is hibs sell on?” Debate 😂

If a fee can be agreed he would surely be off, he is at his peak right now and this is his chance of a really big move to a club that could give him champions league football and genuine potential for silverware.

[Dmas]

In the report I read(no quotes)they were also looking at Philips from Leeds and Rice from West ham, I hope the go for SJM

I don’t think Phillips leaves Leeds for Man Utd he’s well loved by the fans there and it’s mutual to go to Man Utd does seem to fit, West Ham already said they’d be after 100m for rice so SJM might just be next on the list.

Big rumours of the guy Fuchs from Dundee Utd signing pre contract with Celtic id have loved us to have got him stands out like a sore thumb for them

[Stuart93]

I don’t think Phillips leaves Leeds for Man Utd he’s well loved by the fans there and it’s mutual to go to Man Utd does seem to fit, West Ham already said they’d be after 100m for rice so SJM might just be next on the list.

Big rumours of the guy Fuchs from Dundee Utd signing pre contract with Celtic id have loved us to have got him stands out like a sore thumb for them

He’ll go to Celtic and probably no get a game

[easty]

I don’t think Phillips leaves Leeds for Man Utd he’s well loved by the fans there and it’s mutual to go to Man Utd does seem to fit, West Ham already said they’d be after 100m for rice so SJM might just be next on the list.

Big rumours of the guy Fuchs from Dundee Utd signing pre contract with Celtic id have loved us to have got him stands out like a sore thumb for them

I don't think Fuchs is anywhere near good enough a footballer to be in Celtc's midfield.

[Dmas]

He’ll go to Celtic and probably no get a game

No doubt a fate SJM managed to avoid

[J-C]

Souness just talking about McGinn, calling him a proper pro and a top EPL player, said he should be at one of the top 4 teams he's that good.

[Hibby70]

Souness just talking about McGinn, calling him a proper pro and a top EPL player, said he should be at one of the top 4 teams he's that good.

He'd be a great signing for Man Utd or Liverpool. Let the bidding begin.

[Unseen work]

Surely no danger of Fuchs going to Celtic?

I’d like him here but he wouldn’t be a certain starter for us never mind Celtic.

[A Hi-Bee]

Souness just talking about McGinn, calling him a proper pro and a top EPL player, said he should be at one of the top 4 teams he's that good.

I said on here when he first went down to Engurland that one of the top teams should snap him up, he reminds me of the old Liverpool player Emlyn Hughes (Crazy Horse)
He deserves to be playing at the highest level.
:thumbsup:

[JimBHibees]

I don't think Fuchs is anywhere near good enough a footballer to be in Celtc's midfield.

Agree think he runs around a lot but bang average

[Stuart93]

No doubt a fate SJM managed to avoid

I’d take him at ER

[Crab apple]

In the report I read(no quotes)they were also looking at Philips from Leeds and Rice from West ham, I hope the go for SJM

Chelski also interested in Rice, which is where I think he'll end up.

[SteveHFC]

He'd be a great signing for Man Utd or Liverpool. Let the bidding begin.

Would love to see him at Liverpool.

[The Wireless]

In the report I read(no quotes)they were also looking at Philips from Leeds and Rice from West ham, I hope the go for SJM

As much chance of Phillips of Leeds going to Man Utd as Porteous going to Hearts. Not a hope.

[Leith Green]

As much chance of Phillips of Leeds going to Man Utd as Porteous going to Hearts. Not a hope.

You would be naive to think he wouldn’t make the move. Seem to recall Alan Smith making the same move in the early naughties.. These guys are professional footballers , they will crave success and the chance of winning trophies , the only thing that matters to these guys is playing at the highest level possible and making as much money as they can.

[Leith Green]

I said on here when he first went down to Engurland that one of the top teams should snap him up, he reminds me of the old Liverpool player Emlyn Hughes (Crazy Horse)
He deserves to be playing at the highest level.
:thumbsup:

Mcginn would walk into the current Man Utd midfield…

[GloryGlory]

You would be naive to think he wouldn’t make the move. Seem to recall Alan Smith making the same move in the early naughties.. These guys are professional footballers , they will crave success and the chance of winning trophies , the only thing that matters to these guys is playing at the highest level possible and making as much money as they can.

Didn't Eric Cantona move from Leeds to Man U?

[Just_Jimmy]

As much chance of Phillips of Leeds going to Man Utd as Porteous going to Hearts. Not a hope.Given hearts wouldn't raise the funds for Porto but utd could for Phillips, your argument falls down there.

Secondly, the loads of examples of Leeds to utd transfers, including die hard Leeds fans.

I don't think utd will try for Phillips.

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[easty]

Didn't Eric Cantona move from Leeds to Man U?

Yep, so did Rio Ferdinand.

A better comparison to Phillips would be Alan Smith though. Born in Leeds, came through the youth team there. Played about 200 games for Leeds, then signed for Man Utd.

I don’t think Man Utd will sign Philips, but I’ve no doubt Leeds would sell, and he’d go if they wanted him.

[Gmack7]

Didn't Eric Cantona move from Leeds to Man U?

There's been quite a few over the years, Dan James went the other way in the last window

[McD]

Would love to see him at Liverpool.



Totally agree

[Iain G]

I don’t think Phillips leaves Leeds for Man Utd he’s well loved by the fans there and it’s mutual to go to Man Utd does seem to fit, West Ham already said they’d be after 100m for rice so SJM might just be next on the list.

Big rumours of the guy Fuchs from Dundee Utd signing pre contract with Celtic id have loved us to have got him stands out like a sore thumb for them

£100m for that pudding Rice, that is insane!

[MWHIBBIES]

£100m for that pudding Rice, that is insane!

He's a brilliant footballer.

[SMAXXA]

He's a brilliant footballer.

No 100m good

[Jones28]

£100m for that pudding Rice, that is insane!

If they got that for Rice they could go after McGinn as a replacement.

[bingo70]

He's a brilliant footballer.

I was at the West Ham game on Saturday and I was surprised by how good he was. Really stood out for West Ham as being their best player by miles.

I actually wondered how much he would be worth while watching him and it’s hard to see West Ham accepting anything less than a completely bonkers bid.

[andrew70]

He's a brilliant footballer.

Precisely this. Over inflated prices aren’t his problem but a player worth it if they want to spend it.

[Iain G]

If they got that for Rice they could go after McGinn as a replacement.

I would hate McGinn to go to West Ham.

[MWHIBBIES]

No 100m good

He is 22. There is absolutely no way a player of his quality and experience aged 22 is going for less than 100 million these days. He is extremely good.

[Jones28]

I would hate McGinn to go to West Ham.

If it’s for £70m he can go where the **** he wants.

[SHODAN]

If McGinn was English he'd be worth £100M.

[AugustaHibs]

If McGinn was English he'd be worth £100M.

This argument is nonsense as he really wouldn’t. He’s nowhere near as good as grealish or Declan rice.

Not as good as Kalvin Phillips either

[MWHIBBIES]

If McGinn was English he'd be worth £100M.

If he was 22, English and improving all the time, maybe yeah.

[Iain G]

If it’s for £70m he can go where the **** he wants.

Of course he can, but he can do better than West Ham!

[easty]

This argument is nonsense as he really wouldn’t. He’s nowhere near as good as grealish or Declan rice.

Not as good as Kalvin Phillips either

John Mcginn isn't as good as Kalvin Phillips :faf::faf::faf:

[500miles]

John McGinn drags Scotland to the next level. He's an exceptional player.

[JohnM1875]

John Mcginn isn't as good as Kalvin Phillips :faf::faf::faf:

Have to say, I definitely agree with you here! Rice I can maybe just agree with. But he's better than Phillips.

[cabbageandribs1875]

This argument is nonsense as he really wouldn’t. He’s nowhere near as good as grealish or Declan rice.

Not as good as Kalvin Phillips either



as a big fan of both, and a weekly TV follower of Leeds i'm not too sure about that one, KP didn't get much of a look-in at the recent England v Scotland Euro game, he was pretty quiet indeed, both have a hell of an engine, KP slightly better in the defensive side of things but SJM a better finisher. imo

[tmb1875]

This argument is nonsense as he really wouldn’t. He’s nowhere near as good as grealish or Declan rice.

Not as good as Kalvin Phillips either

No danger! Mcginn is the complete midfielder and does everything they all do. He can play at any level he wants.


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[Winston Ingram]

If they got that for Rice they could go after McGinn as a replacement.

Cannae see why McGinn would leave Villa for West Ham. Step down imo

[Winston Ingram]

£100m for that pudding Rice, that is insane!

He’s absolutely outstanding. In today’s market, and the fact he’s 22, got a few years on his contract, I don’t think that’s that unrealistic.

[HH81]

Cannae see why McGinn would leave Villa for West Ham. Step down imo

In London, doing better in the league and he will be paid more. I can't see it been a step down?

[Winston Ingram]

In London, doing better in the league and he will be paid more. I can't see it been a step down?

He won’t be paid more at West Ham. Villa are loaded and can match anyone’s wage. Not sure why being in London would be that important to SJM. West Ham are doing better at the moment, but I don’t think there’s miles between the sides.

If he’s looking for a step up, West Ham aren’t that.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

It's mental that st mirren still have a sell on % for mcginn

[Jones28]

Cannae see why McGinn would leave Villa for West Ham. Step down imo

European football might entice him that way.

[HH81]

He won’t be paid more at West Ham. Villa are loaded and can match anyone’s wage. Not sure why being in London would be that important to SJM. West Ham are doing better at the moment, but I don’t think there’s miles between the sides.

If he’s looking for a step up, West Ham aren’t that.

I actually hate London but it is seen as the place to be for a lot of players.

[Winston Ingram]

I actually hate London but it is seen as the place to be for a lot of players.

It is for overseas players.

[Winston Ingram]

European football might entice him that way.

Maybe the CL but even then. West Ham are never going to be regulars in that.

[bingo70]

Cannae see why McGinn would leave Villa for West Ham. Step down imo

If Aston Villa decide they want to sell him because they’ve been offered a huge amount of money for him then he’s not going to turn his nose up at a significant pay rise, moving to London, new long term contract at a club that’s on the way up with the likelihood of European football next season.

He’s probably not likely to be itching for a move there but he certainly wouldn’t turn it down if the opportunity arose.

[Winston Ingram]

If Aston Villa decide they want to sell him because they’ve been offered a huge amount of money for him then he’s not going to turn his nose up at a significant pay rise, moving to London, new long term contract at a club that’s on the way up with the likelihood of European football next season.

He’s probably not likely to be itching for a move there but he certainly wouldn’t turn it down if the opportunity arose.

That's the point though. Villa pay as well as anyone. I wouldn't be surprised if anyone at West Ham is on as much as McGinn is on now. West Ham aren't big payers.

As for moving to London, I get that for overseas players but i'm not sure why a boy from Glasgow is desperate to move to London.

[bingo70]

That's the point though. Villa pay as well as anyone. I wouldn't be surprised if anyone at West Ham is on as much as McGinn is on now. West Ham aren't big payers.

As for moving to London, I get that for overseas players but i'm not sure why a boy from Glasgow is desperate to move to London.

I know, but if Villa accept an offer for him then he’ll clearly consider it. West Ham have enough going for them to mean it’s not a club to say no to if they really want him.

I don’t think he would agitate for a move there but if Villa want to sell him and West Ham really want him, he’ll go.

It’s not like it’s a ***** club like Hull or Burnley.

[Crunchie]

It's mental that st mirren still have a sell on % for mcginn
You could say it was mental we got him so cheap.

[1 8 7 5]

He's a brilliant footballer.

Totally correct

[Since452]

It's mental that st mirren still have a sell on % for mcginn

It's not really. We benefitted from Steven Fletchers moves to Wolves and Sunderland after we sold him to Burnley. It's common practice now. Dunfermline will have a similar clause written in for Nisbet for future moves if that ever happens.

[Winston Ingram]

I know, but if Villa accept an offer for him then he’ll clearly consider it. West Ham have enough going for them to mean it’s not a club to say no to if they really want him.

I don’t think he would agitate for a move there but if Villa want to sell him and West Ham really want him, he’ll go.

It’s not like it’s a ***** club like Hull or Burnley.

Absolutely.

I was talking in the context raised by another poster that if they sell Rice, they should use the money for McGinn. 2 major obstacles there are that Villa is unlikely to accept an offer, and also, I don't think he'd be that keen to move there.

If they accept it, it sends a message to McGinn he's not wanted and it's a whole new ball game.

[Highwayman]

It's not really. We benefitted from Steven Fletchers moves to Wolves and Sunderland after we sold him to Burnley. It's common practice now. Dunfermline will have a similar clause written in for Nisbet for future moves if that ever happens.

How far back in a players career are previous clubs entitled to a % of sell on fees ?

IIRC when Stuart Armstrong moved from Celtic to Southampton,Dyce Boys Club received x thousand of pounds as they were entitled to a % of the transfer fee.

[The 90+2]

Interesting to see if Hecky comes in for any of our players. I’m sure he gave Porto his debut for example. Newel maybe also if they are cutting costs.

[FifeHibs]

Interesting to see if Hecky comes in for any of our players. I’m sure he gave Porto his debut for example. Newel maybe also if they are cutting costs.

Porto debut was under Lennon at Ibrox

[MWHIBBIES]

It's mental that st mirren still have a sell on % for mcginn

Its the same clause. Its a % of any money we ever get for McGinn.

[007]

How far back in a players career are previous clubs entitled to a % of sell on fees ?

IIRC when Stuart Armstrong moved from Celtic to Southampton,Dyce Boys Club received x thousand of pounds as they were entitled to a % of the transfer fee.

Depends on all the deals. If McGinn moves from Villa and they negotiate a sell on %age with his new club then Hibs and St Mirren will get a cut. If they don't then we won't as the chain will be broken.

[The 90+2]

Porto debut was under Lennon at Ibrox

I thought it was in the League Cup. Maybe he just got more games then. Apologies.

[Dr What If?]

It's mental that st mirren still have a sell on % for mcginn
Without that sell on percentage we would never have got him in the first place....pennies just weren't there at the time to have given St Mirren more up front

[Ronniekirk]

It's mental that st mirren still have a sell on % for mcginn

Good piece of business on their part though


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[Leitherhibs]

Depends on all the deals. If McGinn moves from Villa and they negotiate a sell on %age with his new club then Hibs and St Mirren will get a cut. If they don't then we won't as the chain will be broken.

On top of this there’s a solidarity payment made to club’s that developed the player, it’s a very small percentage but is worked out on the basis of how long spent at the club, if there’s more than one club involved in early stage development.

[bigwheel]

On top of this there’s a solidarity payment made to club’s that developed the player, it’s a very small percentage but is worked out on the basis of how long spent at the club, if there’s more than one club involved in early stage development.

Is that not only paid with the first transfer fee?? Doesn’t pull through to others …

[brog]

Its the same clause. Its a % of any money we ever get for McGinn.

Not quite, it's a % of any profit on the deal. We definitely got a good chunk when Burnley sold Fletch to Wolves & I'm pretty sure we also gained when he moved on to Sunderland. However all these deals depend on the club to whom we sell a player also negotiating a sell on deal. The higher the fee paid is, the less likely there is to be a sell on fee. eg if Villa sell SJM on for £60m then we'll be entitled to x% of approx £57m. However the gravy train will probably stop there as; 1) Villa may not be able to negotiate a sell on fee with United and 2) SJM's value is unlikely to rise after that next contract.
PS, I recognise that with us having only paid about £100k for SJM, what you say above is largely correct, I'm just clarifying the principle of these deals.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not quite, it's a % of any profit on the deal. We definitely got a good chunk when Burnley sold Fletch to Wolves & I'm pretty sure we also gained when he moved on to Sunderland. However all these deals depend on the club to whom we sell a player also negotiating a sell on deal. The higher the fee paid is, the less likely there is to be a sell on fee. eg if Villa sell SJM on for £60m then we'll be entitled to x% of approx £57m. However the gravy train will probably stop there as; 1) Villa may not be able to negotiate a sell on fee with United and 2) SJM's value is unlikely to rise after that next contract.
PS, I recognise that with us having only paid about £100k for SJM, what you say above is largely correct, I'm just clarifying the principle of these deals.

That is exactly what I said. The reason St Mirren are getting money is because they negotiated a clause with Hibs. If its % of profit or any money or whatever. Hibs may be a % of profit, St Mirrens may be a % of any money made. Or vice versa. There is no set in stone way these things work.

[GloryGlory]

That is exactly what I said. The reason St Mirren are getting money is because they negotiated a clause with Hibs. If its % of profit or any money or whatever. Hibs may be a % of profit, St Mirrens may be a % of any money made. Or vice versa. There is no set in stone way these things work.

ISTR that Didier Drogba had written into any deal in his career that his first junior team got a %age of the deal. They benefited several times during his career.

[brog]

That is exactly what I said. The reason St Mirren are getting money is because they negotiated a clause with Hibs. If its % of profit or any money or whatever. Hibs may be a % of profit, St Mirrens may be a % of any money made. Or vice versa. There is no set in stone way these things work.

Every deal I have heard about involves a % of profit. If you buy a player for £10m and sell him for £5m you're not going to add to your loss by paying a % of the money received.

[MWHIBBIES]

Every deal I have heard about involves a % of profit. If you buy a player for £10m and sell him for £5m you're not going to add to your loss by paying a % of the money received.

Yeah. Its not as common but no reason it couldn't be in there. Deals now, especially bigger one, have all kids of addons and clauses.

Coutinho deal had a clause that Barcelona would have to pay Liverpool an extra 50 million or something if they signed a player from them in the next 4 years.

[Brummie_Hibs]

We cannot begrudge St Mirren a sell on fee. We have/will do very from McGinn.

Like it or not, London is one of the best cities in the world. Far better than Birmingham. By far.

[The 90+2]

We cannot begrudge St Mirren a sell on fee. We have/will do very from McGinn.

Like it or not, London is one of the best cities in the world. Far better than Birmingham. By far.

It’s also further away from Clydebank.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

I'm sure that when Andy Robertson signed for Liverpool, his boys' club or junior team still got a wee handout even though he has had a few moves.

[Unseen work]

How will a new manager effect our recruitment?

You imagine a lot of work has been in place since the summer for not it to potentially be worthless.

I get our new man will be a head coach and not have full control.

However he will have the final say and could want a completely different type of player. He will also want a period of settling in to assess what we have.

[Callum_62]

How will a new manager effect our recruitment?

You imagine a lot of work has been in place since the summer for not it to potentially be worthless.

I get our new man will be a head coach and not have full control.

However he will have the final say and could want a completely different type of player. He will also want a period of settling in to assess what we have.

Ian Gordons well aware of who hes signing to manage

[CapitalGreen]

I'm sure that when Andy Robertson signed for Liverpool, his boys' club or junior team still got a wee handout even though he has had a few moves.

FIFA solidarity payment rules ensure every team involved in a players youth development receive a % of any future transfer fees. The amount received is calculated by a formula taking into account time spent with the club, the age the player was at the time and the level of the club.

[Billy Whizz]

So who’s choosing the players in January now?

[JimBHibees]

So who’s choosing the players in January now?

Good question wonder if some promising deals may be scuppered if player not coming to the manager they were keen to sign for.

[bingo70]

Good question wonder if some promising deals may be scuppered if player not coming to the manager they were keen to sign for.

Maybe that’s part of the problem.

Jack Ross insisted on only signing players with boring names where as the owner wants us to cast our net further afield.

I’m only half joking with that. I remember listening to a podcast and Gordon was talking about it being a big footballing world out there and he wanted us to start trying to find hidden gems from untapped markets. I always felt that was at odds with the type of player Ross seemed to want to sign.

[nonshinyfinish]

Jack Ross insisted on only signing players with boring names

Writing was on the wall when Kurowskybob Fertil-Pierre didn't get a contract.

[04Sauzee]

One of the Red Tops reporting that Tony Watt likely to leave Motherwell at the end of the season after talks have broken down. Wonder if Hibs would be interested? Wonder if Watt would even be interested in a love to Hibs.
Obviously things are a bit up in the air regarding signings with no manager in place

[Haymaker]

:hyper

[SteveHFC]

One of the Red Tops reporting that Tony Watt likely to leave Motherwell at the end of the season after talks have broken down. Wonder if Hibs would be interested? Wonder if Watt would even be interested in a love to Hibs.
Obviously things are a bit up in the air regarding signings with no manager in place

Get him signed.

[CentreLine]

One of the Red Tops reporting that Tony Watt likely to leave Motherwell at the end of the season after talks have broken down. Wonder if Hibs would be interested? Wonder if Watt would even be interested in a love to Hibs.
Obviously things are a bit up in the air regarding signings with no manager in place

I’d take him and Graham Alexander if it was at all possible. Watt is at the top of his game and would not be a pro if he wasn’t motivated to continue that and make the Scotland squad for potential WC qualification.
Alexander, on the other hand, has already shown he can put a footballing side, with some dig in it, on the park but also has passion for the team he’s managing.

[theonlywayisup]

It's time.

Confirmed in (2):
Chris Mueller (midfielder, Orlando City)
Dylan Tait, three and a half year contract (midfielder, Raith)

Confirmed out (1):
Nathan Wood (Middlesbrough)

Confirmed out on loan (0):
None

Confirmed new contracts (6):
Josh Campbell (three and a half years)
Christian Doidge (two and a half years)
Josh Doig (four and a half years)
Jake Doyle-Hayes (three and a half years)
Paul Hanlon (two and a half years)
Lewis Stevenson (one and a half years)

Rumoured in:
Stuart Findlay (defender, Philadelphia Union)

Rumoured out:
Josh Doig (Celtic)

Rumoured new contracts:
Kevin Nisbet

Will be interesting to see what our recruitment team have to help us in our relegation fight / push for 3rd.

[Franck Stanton]

No inside knowledge what do ever but would like to see us sign D Unt keeper, (Seigrist) or St J keeper as don't think Macey is good enough. Would also sign Shaunesy (sp?) from St Mirren.

[CentreLine]

No inside knowledge what do ever but would like to see us sign D Unt keeper, (Seigrist) or St J keeper as don't think Macey is good enough. Would also sign Shaunesy (sp?) from St Mirren.

Ooooow. You get pelters for suggesting signings from either of the saints.🤣

[FitbaFolkKen]

No inside knowledge what do ever but would like to see us sign D Unt keeper, (Seigrist) or St J keeper as don't think Macey is good enough. Would also sign Shaunesy (sp?) from St Mirren.

Not a fan of Clark, other two would be good additions though.


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[Magpie]

The Sun reporting this morning that FC Krasnodar are after Porteous for £1 million.

[Bridge hibs]

The Sun reporting this morning that FC Krasnodar are after Porteous for £1 million.Were they not reported to be interested in Porteous in the summer or was that a different club ?

£1m though ? Surely worth more than that

[Magpie]

Were they not reported to be interested in Porteous in the summer or was that a different club ?

£1m though ? Surely worth more than that

Think it was a Turkish club who were linked in the summer. Aye I would be wanting more than a £1 million.

[Bridge hibs]

Think it was a Turkish club who were linked in the summer. Aye I would be wanting more than a £1 million.A quick google came up with interest from both Besiktas and Galatasaray, nothing more than chat though, if Porteous is looking to go then Im sure he will have a few clubs keeping tabs on him, hopefully for more than £1m though

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Paddy Lane at Fleetwood may be worth keeping an eye on. 7 assists in 9 games.

[Smartie]

Were they not reported to be interested in Porteous in the summer or was that a different club ?

£1m though ? Surely worth more than that

Were they not linked with Nisbet during the summer? Along with quotes from our 100% committed lone striker’s agent that it would be a move that would interest him?

[chrisski33]

One of the Red Tops reporting that Tony Watt likely to leave Motherwell at the end of the season after talks have broken down. Wonder if Hibs would be interested? Wonder if Watt would even be interested in a love to Hibs.
Obviously things are a bit up in the air regarding signings with no manager in place

Not a chance he come to us. He is looking for a move to England.

[Iain G]

Paddy Lane at Fleetwood may be worth keeping an eye on. 7 assists in 9 games.

Sure he comes with his own Beatles song as well 😁

[04Sauzee]

Lewis Morgan joins New York Red Bulls for $1.2m

[Hibdan12]

I've always liked the look of Charles-Cook at County. Has a bit of pace, likes to take on a man and looks comfortable with both feet

[PatHead]

What about Chris Kane of St Johnstone. Not the most prolific but holds the ball up well.

[truehibernian]

What about Chris Kane of St Johnstone. Not the most prolific but holds the ball up well.

Would love CK at Hibs - industrious, unselfish and pops up with very important goals. Hibs fan too.

[bigwheel]

What about Chris Kane of St Johnstone. Not the most prolific but holds the ball up well.

We had agreed a deal with him in the summer , only
To not go through with it …would now cost money as he signed a two year deal with Saints

[truehibernian]

We had agreed a deal with him in the summer , only
To not go through with it …would now cost money as he signed a two year deal with Saints

Offer them Gullan and Wright :aok:

[loanheadhibby]

Would love CK at Hibs - industrious, unselfish and pops up with very important goals. Hibs fan too.

Absolutely not. He be the new Rowan Vine. Similar attributes

[truehibernian]

Absolutely not. He be the new Rowan Vine. Similar attributes

Utter nonsense, have you watched his career at all ? You could not get a more different player, added to which, Chris has more desire in his right toe than that waste of space Vine. CK works defenders, is a pest, scores important goals albeit his strike rate isn't up there with the likes of Nisbet, but he also wins an unbelievable amount of free kicks with his ability to hassle defenders. Also drops deeper to help midfield.

Try watching him :aok:

[Highwayman]

I've always liked the look of Charles-Cook at County. Has a bit of pace, likes to take on a man and looks comfortable with both feet

Agreed.Impressed what I’ve seen of Charles-Cook.

Don’t know how long his current contract with the Staggies runs for.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Aberdeen and other clubs are interested in him.

[loanheadhibby]

Utter nonsense, have you watched his career at all ? You could not get a more different player, added to which, Chris has more desire in his right toe than that waste of space Vine. CK works defenders, is a pest, scores important goals albeit his strike rate isn't up there with the likes of Nisbet, but he also wins an unbelievable amount of free kicks with his ability to hassle defenders. Also drops deeper to help midfield.

Try watching him :aok:

I’ve seen plenty of him against us. He’s definitely got nuisance value but we need better than Chris Kane. He’s Joe Average. A decent workhorse type guy. He’s the Curtis Main of St Johnstone.

[Leith's finest]

Will this mean that St Mirren won't be our feeder club now?

[JimboHibs]

What about Chris Kane of St Johnstone. Not the most prolific but holds the ball up well.

You sound like Craig Levein when he signed Steven McLean, he doesn't do much and i like the fact he can't run.

[noz]

I’ve seen plenty of him against us. He’s definitely got nuisance value but we need better than Chris Kane. He’s Joe Average. A decent workhorse type guy. He’s the Curtis Main of St Johnstone.

Agreed, he may work hard, but 23 goals in 176 games for ST J since 2012,, thats a terrible return.

[greenlex]

Agreed, he may work hard, but 23 goals in 176 games for ST J since 2012,, thats a terrible return.
That terrible he signed a new two year deal.

[loanheadhibby]

That terrible he signed a new two year deal.

A 2 year deal with double cup winners who are currently in a worse position than us.

I just think certain players are suited to certain clubs. Liam Craig looked a good signing for us but it never worked out. Rowan Vine another who’d had a decent season and then was chronic for us.

We need better than Chris Kane. I’m sure a decent player in his own right.

[jeffers]

We had agreed a deal with him in the summer , only
To not go through with it …would now cost money as he signed a two year deal with Saints

Yup heard the same. He was keen to come, but we thought we had someone better lined up so stalled on the deal. He then signed an extension with St J and we missed out on both.

[Since90+2]

Kane I think is a good option to bring off the bench and close a game out. He works very hard, is good in the air and is quick and mobile. He gets you fouls and generally makes a nuisance of himself.

I don't think he could play upfront by himself as he doesn't score enough goals. As an option from the bench or player with a partner I think he'd be a decent signing.

[bigwheel]

Kane I think is a good option to bring off the bench and close a game out. He works very hard, is good in the air and is quick and mobile. He gets you fouls and generally makes a nuisance of himself.

I don't think he could play upfront by himself as he doesn't score enough goals. As an option from the bench or player with a partner I think he'd be a decent signing.

Would have been a good deputy for Doidge and great foil for Nisbet.


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[Smartie]

Kane's one of these strikers who are great at the defensive side of the game but weak at the attacking side.

If you actually want to have possession, create chances and take them then he's pretty hopeless.

If you want to hack, chop, elbow, niggle, win free kicks and nick the odd goal from a set piece before all out defending then he's your man.

A 451 with him as the focal point would be eye bleedingly awful.

He's not without his uses, although he wouldn't be my choice of a striker to play for Hibs.

[Crab apple]

Yup heard the same. He was keen to come, but we thought we had someone better lined up so stalled on the deal. He then signed an extension with St J and we missed out on both.

The more I hear about our approach to the last transfer window the more I realise why we are in the position we are in now.

[easty]

Kane's one of these strikers who are great at the defensive side of the game but weak at the attacking side.

If you actually want to have possession, create chances and take them then he's pretty hopeless.

If you want to hack, chop, elbow, niggle, win free kicks and nick the odd goal from a set piece before all out defending then he's your man.

A 451 with him as the focal point would be eye bleedingly awful.

He's not without his uses, although he wouldn't be my choice of a striker to play for Hibs.

Good summary, the first sentence says it all.

Never ever good enough.

[davhibby]

Deary me.

[Hibee Mac]

Goodness me, people can't seriously be after Chris Kane...

Surprised there even needs to be a discussion about that one if I'm honest!

[jeffers]

Goodness me, people can't seriously be after Chris Kane...

Surprised there even needs to be a discussion about that one if I'm honest!

Not sure many on here are, but the manager a lot of folk are unhappy about being sacked did.

[kaimendhibs]

I got slated on here months ago suggesting Tony Watt. Miles above what we have now.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

I got slated on here months ago suggesting Tony Watt. Miles above what we have now.

Rather have Doidge

[TheGog]

I got slated on here months ago suggesting Tony Watt. Miles above what we have now.

Miles above Boyle😂😂😂😂 please stop that

[Leitherhibs]

Chris Kane and Tony Watt, show some imagination folks please.

[kaimendhibs]

Miles above Boyle😂😂😂😂 please stop that

Not above boyle. Of course not. Miles above Gullan, Scott and sadly at the moment, Nisbet

[Blaster]

Chris Kane and Tony Watt, show some imagination folks please.

Get your point, but if they were in our squad instead of Gullan and Scott, we’d be stronger than we are today.

[tmb1875]

We tried to get Kane in the summer, but we took too long and messed him about and he signed a new contract with st Johnstone, thank **** coz he’s pish!


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[Nicho87]

Very Connor salmon-esque

Described as hard working cause they’re pish in front of goal

No thanks

[Steven79]

We tried to get Kane in the summer, but we took too long and messed him about and he signed a new contract with st Johnstone, thank **** coz he’s pish!


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And people wonder why Mathie & Ross have been binned.

If that was the heigh of their ambitions for this club then it's a good thing...

[Edinburgh Green]

If Jack Ross was after Chris Kane I'm delighted he was sacked before getting another transfer window.

[JimBHibees]

Think Kane would have been a reasonable addition to our front line. Different type of forward player and gave us so many problems last season.

[Orchard_Hibs]

I’m sorry our current strikers are or have both been slated for not scoring goals yet folk think Kane would be a good signing.

[SMAXXA]

If jack Ross wanted Kane folk would be doing there dinger that there’s players all across the world out there and he wants players who have experience of the league.

[brog]

Get your point, but if they were in our squad instead of Gullan and Scott, we’d be stronger than we are today.

We probably wouldn't. They would probably also only be bench replacements. Jamie G has only ever started 3 league games, none at ER and he's never been given 90 minutes. Scott also only has 3 league starts but he almost got 90 minutes for 2 of those.

[Blaster]

We probably wouldn't. They would probably also only be bench replacements. Jamie G has only ever started 3 league games, none at ER and he's never been given 90 minutes. Scott also only has 3 league starts but he almost got 90 minutes for 2 of those.

We wouldn’t be stronger with the league’s top scorer? We’ve had no option to leave Nisbet out due to Gullan and Scott not being good enough. These players would have given us better options even if from the bench.

[brog]

We wouldn’t be stronger with the league’s top scorer? We’ve had no option to leave Nisbet out due to Gullan and Scott not being good enough. These players would have given us better options even if from the bench.

My point is, Messi wouldn't improve us if he only got an occasional few minutes from the bench. I think JR has had a bit of a raw deal but his treatment of Gullan and his use, or non use of substitutes was baffling.

[davhibby]

My point is, Messi wouldn't improve us if he only got an occasional few minutes from the bench. I think JR has had a bit of a raw deal but his treatment of Gullan and his use, or non use of substitutes was baffling.

Gullan isn’t close to being good enough.

[brog]

Gullan isn’t close to being good enough.

How do you know?

[Hibee Mac]

Not a priority but I think we should be after Charles-cook at County.

Has always looked a stand out for them, I have to say I don't know too much about his defensive attributes but from an attacking sense he looks great for a full back.

[BegbieHSC]

Reading there’s a host of Scottish Premiership clubs chasing two players in the League of Ireland.

Georgie Kelly of Bohemians - top scorer in the league (26 goals), and player of the year. Available on a free transfer. Would be a terrific signing tbh.

Johnny Kenny of Sligo Rovers - 18 years old, and meant to be the next big thing.

Wonder if we’re amongst the interested clubs for either of these players. IMO, we should be looking at the LOI more at the top talents.

[JimBHibees]

How do you know?

Thought he was excellent against St Johnstone pity assume he is injured

[bigwheel]

Thought he was excellent against St Johnstone pity assume he is injured

He was fit and on the bench on Saturday


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[Torto7]

Reading there’s a host of Scottish Premiership clubs chasing two players in the League of Ireland.

Georgie Kelly of Bohemians - top scorer in the league (26 goals), and player of the year. Available on a free transfer. Would be a terrific signing tbh.

Johnny Kenny of Sligo Rovers - 18 years old, and meant to be the next big thing.

Wonder if we’re amongst the interested clubs for either of these players. IMO, we should be looking at the LOI more at the top talents.

Kelly is a bit like Doidge a late developer, his fitness was never up to elite level but he's got himself in good nick now. It's a big jump up though. I'm not convinced by him but I thought Doidge would flop as well. Kenny is likely to get interest from bigger clubs than us. Premiership interest he's a real prospect.

I see Daniel Mandroiu is on the verge on joining Celtic. I sent Mathie an email about him two years ago when his contract had six months left and he was available. He replied to say thanks:wink:, what could have been.

[BegbieHSC]

Kelly is a bit like Doidge a late developer, his fitness was never up to elite level but he's got himself in good nick now. It's a big jump up though. I'm not convinced by him but I thought Doidge would flop as well. Kenny is likely to get interest from bigger clubs than us. Premiership interest he's a real prospect.

I see Daniel Mandroiu is on the verge on joining Celtic. I sent Mathie an email about him two years ago when his contract had six months left and he was available. He replied to say thanks:wink:, what could have been.

Shame, Mandroiu would have been an outstanding signing (albeit, as someone with Bohs sympathies, I’d feel a bit conflicted given he crossed the city.)

Reckon we should be monitoring the league of Ireland more - it’s a few steps below, but given some of the clubs get European exposure, there’s surely gonna be a few gems we can pluck out.

[Heisenberg]

Think it’s fairly likely Porteous will be away in January.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/ryan-porteous-wanted-kv-oostende-25688723

[BegbieHSC]

Think it’s fairly likely Porteous will be away in January.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/ryan-porteous-wanted-kv-oostende-25688723

It’s the Daily Record up to their usual pish - linking key players of ours away ahead of a big game against one of their beloved Glasgow two.

I’ll take seriously any rumours after Sunday.

[Torto7]

Shame, Mandroiu would have been an outstanding signing (albeit, as someone with Bohs sympathies, I’d feel a bit conflicted given he crossed the city.)

Reckon we should be monitoring the league of Ireland more - it’s a few steps below, but given some of the clubs get European exposure, there’s surely gonna be a few gems we can pluck out.

Definitely. LOI must be up there in the bang for your buck category when looking at some of the players to come through there over the years.

My Mrs has family from Coolock so I'm well versed in the Dublin clubs. I wouldn't recommend Coolock to anyone mind, it makes Glasgow look tame.

[Greencore]

How long does Porto have left on his contract?

[Torto7]

How long does Porto have left on his contract?

2023 I think. 1 million is pish and pointless for Hibs in Jan. Record stirring up nonsense in the week leading to a match against one of them. Shocking stuff.

[Sean1875]

How long does Porto have left on his contract?

18 months.


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[Greencore]

18 months? No way would we accept 1 million 😂😂😂

[Magpie]

Think it’s fairly likely Porteous will be away in January.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/ryan-porteous-wanted-kv-oostende-25688723

We should be holding out for more than £1m. He’s a Scotland international at a young age and a potential cup winner come Sunday. He’s got a **** load going for him.

[Heisenberg]

We should be holding out for more than £1m. He’s a Scotland international at a young age and a potential cup winner come Sunday. He’s got a **** load going for him.

I think the issue is that he’s apparently got absolutely no interest in signing a new deal. If he’s not off in January it’ll be the summer imo.

[Magpie]

I think the issue is that he’s apparently got absolutely no interest in signing a new deal. If he’s not off in January it’ll be the summer imo.

When does his current contract expire?

[Heisenberg]

When does his current contract expire?

He’ll have a year left by the time the summer comes round. Not an ideal situation.

[Hibernian Verse]

We should be holding out for more than £1m. He’s a Scotland international at a young age and a potential cup winner come Sunday. He’s got a **** load going for him.

Hate to be pedantic but he's not played for Scotland yet.

[Jones28]

Think it’s fairly likely Porteous will be away in January.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/ryan-porteous-wanted-kv-oostende-25688723

Must try harder, Daily Record.

£2m is the least we should be looking at if he’s going in January.

[Ronniekirk]

He won’t go in January unless we have a replacement lined up The squad is already too small But if he isn’t going to sign a new contract he will be away in the summer


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[mayo hibee]

Reports in Ireland that we are looking to sign Johnny Kenny. 18 year old forward from Sligo Rovers. Was apparently at the game tonight.

Recently signed a three year deal with Sligo so there would be a fee involved. Has just come off a breakthrough season in the League of Ireland Premier Division.

[04Sauzee]

Reports in Ireland that we are looking to sign Johnny Kenny. 18 year old forward from Sligo Rovers. Was apparently at the game tonight.

Recently signed a three year deal with Sligo so there would be a fee involved.

Looks a fantastic talent, I thought he'd be EPL or England championship bound and get loaned out from there.

See tweet below


https://twitter.com/RepTracker/status/1470896664772763654?t=_rO4ATqqN5_hLYfnbxXUhw&s=19

[SMAXXA]

Reports in Ireland that we are looking to sign Johnny Kenny. 18 year old forward from Sligo Rovers. Was apparently at the game tonight.

Recently signed a three year deal with Sligo so there would be a fee involved. Has just come off a breakthrough season in the League of Ireland Premier Division.

Yeah he was at the game tonight

[Callum_62]

Reports in Ireland that we are looking to sign Johnny Kenny. 18 year old forward from Sligo Rovers. Was apparently at the game tonight.

Recently signed a three year deal with Sligo so there would be a fee involved. Has just come off a breakthrough season in the League of Ireland Premier Division.

Another one with 2 first names?

Jack Ross lives on

[Stevie Reid]

No bad start to his career!

https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=139012

[Vault Boy]

No bad start to his career!

https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=139012

Bloody hell. Glad we're getting in there early!

[BegbieHSC]

Kenny would be a terrific signing.

Hope we’re able to win him over by offering more first team opportunities than Celtic could. At the game last night.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/johnny-kenny-to-hibs-easter-road-side-face-competition-from-celtic-for-sligo-rovers-striker-3495079

[04Sauzee]

Raith Rovers sign Sam Stanton.

[SHODAN]

No bad start to his career!

https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=139012

Jesus.

[mayo hibee]

Not sure those Soccerbase stats are correct. He has played a lot more than that this season.

[04Sauzee]

Not sure those Soccerbase stats are correct. He has played a lot more than that this season.

Soccerbase are normally accurate but this looks like only the games he scored in.

Detailed stats on transfermrkt

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/johnny-kenny/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/875208

[SHODAN]

Not sure those Soccerbase stats are correct. He has played a lot more than that this season.

Eh, still pretty good.

[04Sauzee]

Eh, still pretty good.

Don't think there was any arguments that his goalscoring record is more than decent.

[mayo hibee]

Ah yeah, still impressive for an 18 year old. Just not 11 goals in 10 games impressive.

If it is a straight decision between us and Celtic you would hope he would sign for us. Celtic has a reputation within Irish football as being a black hole for young Irish footballers where promising players go and never get a look in with the first team.

Having a full season of senior football at a decent level behind him it would be a massive backward step for him to go and mostly play for Celtic B in the Lowland League.

[mayo hibee]

The Irish Independent now reporting that that Kenny move looks to be on, to go through on the opening day of the transfer window.

He has a €150k release clause that Hibs are willing to meet and the offer of first team football means we are likely to be preferred to Celtic.

€150k would seem to be an absolute steal for this player, but then Everton signed Seamus Coleman from Sligo 10 or so years ago for even less than that.

[Callum_62]

The Irish Independent now reporting that that Kenny move looks to be on, to go through on the opening day of the transfer window.

He has a €150k release clause that Hibs are willing to meet and the offer of first team football means we are likely to be preferred to Celtic.Bye bye James Scott

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[CropleyWasGod]

Raith Rovers sign Sam Stanton.

Replacement for Dylan Tait?

Puts to bed the thought that Tait might stay at Rovers for the rest of the season.

[mayo hibee]

Incidentally the Kenny fee is going down very badly with League of Ireland fans, who have long felt that the league's best players are sold for well below their real world value. Parallels with Scottish players moving to England on the cheap I suppose.

[04Sauzee]

Incidentally the Kenny fee is going down very badly with League of Ireland fans, who have long felt that the league's best players are sold for well below their real world value. Parallels with Scottish players moving to England on the cheap I suppose.

Was about to post the same , the €150k buyout clause isn't going down well, one fan hopes they have. 95% sell on fee as if he's going to Hibs we are stealing him.

[mayo hibee]

I'm guessing since it's a release fee being met there will be no future resale clause of any significance involved. Probably just a question of first team opportunities at Hibs against potentially higher wages at Celtic for the player to decide on now.

[Edinburgh Green]

Just to temper things slightly, when I googled Johnny Kenny I read this article which talks about the highly rated Irish youngsters that have move to Celtic and not kicked on. TBH it probably says more about the Celtic model than the players, however you would of thought that some would of shown their potential on their various loan moves.

https://thecelticstar.com/the-strachan-review-johnny-kenny-and-developing-irish-talent/

[04Sauzee]

I'm guessing since it's a release fee being met there will be no future resale clause of any significance involved. Probably just a question of first team opportunities at Hibs against potentially higher wages at Celtic for the player to decide on now.

If we are paying a fee I'm assuming we see him as someone who will be in the first team rather than the new U23 squad ?

[Jones28]

Just to temper things slightly, when I googled Johnny Kenny I read this article which talks about the highly rated Irish youngsters that have move to Celtic and not kicked on. TBH it probably says more about the Celtic model than the players, however you would of thought that some would of shown their potential on their various loan moves.

https://thecelticstar.com/the-strachan-review-johnny-kenny-and-developing-irish-talent/

That should put any players mind to rest as to whether a move to Celtic is a good move or not. For a club that size their record of developing talent is crap.

[Edinburgh Green]

That should put any players mind to rest as to whether a move to Celtic is a good move or not. For a club that size their record of developing talent is crap.

I agree, but it does show that for every Jamie McGrath there's a Jonathan Afolabi. If its us that sign him, hopefully we uncover a gem.

[mayo hibee]

Just to temper things slightly, when I googled Johnny Kenny I read this article which talks about the highly rated Irish youngsters that have move to Celtic and not kicked on. TBH it probably says more about the Celtic model than the players, however you would of thought that some would of shown their potential on their various loan moves.

https://thecelticstar.com/the-strachan-review-johnny-kenny-and-developing-irish-talent/

This says more about Celtic than anything else though. Irish football is going through a noticeable upturn in terms of youth development after a very long period of producing very few players - which has led to the senior national team being in the poor state it is currently in.

However, the big exception to this has been the Irish players who have signed for Celtic who have, time and again, stalled or even gone backwards at that club. They don't seem to have any kind of joined up strategy for youth development, they just sign loads of young players and hope for the best. There is no development path to the first team so the players just end up on bad loan moves that don't help their development.

This is important in terms of our prospects of signing Kenny. Traditionally Celtic would have been the obvious club for him to sign for in this situation, but the issues with youth development at Celtic are well known in Irish football circles. The smart thing for Kenny to do here would be to sign for Hibs - unless he wants to waste away in the Lowland League like all the others.

Probably worth noting as well that none of those players mentioned in that article were signed from the League of Ireland. They were almost all signed from the youth setups of English clubs - which means those clubs had already looked them over and decided to let them go.

[Hibee Mac]

I do like these types of signings, however, I get the feeling some might be getting their hopes up a bit too much.

I would expect him to be a Dan Mackay type signing that doesn't go straight into the first team and needs to take his chances.

In saying that, Mackay has been out for bloody ages, when is he due back?

[Ronniekirk]

I agree, but it does show that for every Jamie McGrath there's a Jonathan Afolabi. If its us that sign him, hopefully we uncover a gem.

Jamie McGrath has struggled this season at st Mirren


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[bigwheel]

Jamie McGrath has struggled this season at st Mirren


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What’s the view of the Buddies on him these days Ronnie ??

[Edinburgh Green]

This says more about Celtic than anything else though. Irish football is going through a noticeable upturn in terms of youth development after a very long period of producing very few players - which has led to the senior national team being in the poor state it is currently in.

However, the big exception to this has been the Irish players who have signed for Celtic who have, time and again, stalled or even gone backwards at that club. They don't seem to have any kind of joined up strategy for youth development, they just sign loads of young players and hope for the best. There is no development path to the first team so the players just end up on bad loan moves that don't help their development.

This is important in terms of our prospects of signing Kenny. Traditionally Celtic would have been the obvious club for him to sign for in this situation, but the issues with youth development at Celtic are well known in Irish football circles. The smart thing for Kenny to do here would be to sign for Hibs - unless he wants to waste away in the Lowland League like all the others.

Probably worth noting as well that none of those players mentioned in that article were signed from the League of Ireland. They were almost all signed from the youth setups of English clubs - which means those clubs had already looked them over and decided to let them go.


I agree, it shows how poorly Celtic nurture their young prospects. Out of interest, who are seen as the Irish success stories in recent years? Jamie McGrath is the obvious one in Scotland.