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Fergus52
31-12-2021, 03:16 PM
Campbell had done well in game Motherwell then hardly got a sniff then had to be brought in due to injuries
Doig was the exception rather than the rule


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Campbell was injured himself a lot of this season, I'm pretty sure Ross said at some point he would have been using him more had he been fit.

superfurryhibby
31-12-2021, 03:16 PM
Steven has started 5 games for Ayr, with 7 more appearances as a sub. He’s scored twice.
He was all set for a summer move to Patrick Thistle but picked up an injury and the Jags moved for Jake Hastie instead.

Thanks for that. Hopefully the laddie kicks on and comes back to Hibs better equipped to make an impression. People have said that he’s a decent footballer.

brog
31-12-2021, 04:21 PM
I'm not sure that is true. Campbell and Doig are two examples of doing just that. Also gave Gullan numerous chances that he failed to take.

Gullan has started 2 league games, both at Pittodrie. He has never played 90 minutes in a league game. Not sure that equals numerous chances.

SMAXXA
31-12-2021, 04:38 PM
Gullan has started 2 league games, both at Pittodrie. He has never played 90 minutes in a league game. Not sure that equals numerous chances.

Mate he had had numerous chances as the poster said, you don’t need 90 minutes to show what your about.

Unseen work
31-12-2021, 04:47 PM
Gullan has started 2 league games, both at Pittodrie. He has never played 90 minutes in a league game. Not sure that equals numerous chances.

As much as I rate Gullan and think he could be a good player maybe it was he see Ross thought the opposite.

Just because someone is going doesn’t mean they deserve a start. Ross showed with Doig and Campbell if they’re good enough they’ll get a chance, maybe he thinks Gullan just isn’t good enough.

Incidentally both games under Maloney he’s not featured either.

BILLYHIBS
31-12-2021, 04:51 PM
Thanks for that. Hopefully the laddie kicks on and comes back to Hibs better equipped to make an impression. People have said that he’s a decent footballer.

Agree at the very least he will offer something different up front and freshen things up

Hopefully if he returns he gets off to a flier

Hibiza
31-12-2021, 05:31 PM
Gordon - overated.

ahibby
31-12-2021, 05:45 PM
HIBS to recall Stephen Bradley from his loan spell at Ayr United

SM thinks he has great potential and will fit in seamlessly to the system he wants us to play

HIBS Central Twitter
If so I an really chuffed. I think the lad has huge potential.

cameronw-hfc
31-12-2021, 05:45 PM
He’s been injured.


Few Ayr supporting pals of mines think he's looked quality when he's played, but injuries and I quote "us being gash" has limited his game time

bingo70
31-12-2021, 05:48 PM
Gordon - overated.

He’s definitely not unfortunately.

BILLYHIBS
31-12-2021, 05:50 PM
Gordon - overated.
Broke my heart many times

Good keeper

Hibee Mac
31-12-2021, 05:55 PM
If so I an really chuffed. I think the lad has huge potential.Me too, I thought he looked more promising than Campbell did before. Now look that Campbell is able to step up I'd like to think Bradley can do the same or even better.

He looked technically really good which will suit Maloney's style well.

B.H.F.C
31-12-2021, 05:58 PM
Gordon - overated.

We’d be above them if it wasn’t for him and we’ve been pish. Makes a huge difference for them.

bingo70
31-12-2021, 06:03 PM
Me too, I thought he looked more promising than Campbell did before. Now look that Campbell is able to step up I'd like to think Bradley can do the same or even better.

He looked technically really good which will suit Maloney's style well.

Neither will be good enough long term IMO.

I’ve no problem with him being called back and given a chance, I hope they do make it. I think people underestimate how difficult it is for anybody to break into a team challenging for a top 3 or 4 spot though, they need to be exceptional to stop the manager going out and looking for better, from what I’ve seen, I don’t think either are.

Good luck to them though, would be great if they prove me wrong.

Brightside
31-12-2021, 06:07 PM
We’d be above them if it wasn’t for him and we’ve been pish. Makes a huge difference for them.

Spot on. They’d be 7th without him. Makes there defence look much better than he actually is. But he is also **** with the ball at his feet.

mal
31-12-2021, 06:16 PM
You are a bit of a comedian mate, imagine accusing someone else of being "blind" when you contribute utter tosh like this;

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?355573-Shaun-Maloney-Style-of-play&p=6801951&viewfull=1#post6801951

Blimey. You have nothing to contribute about the point in question so you have to drag in something irrelevant from another thread. Bit sad that. However, thanks for drawing to my attention the fact that there are some points I should respond to.

hibbyfraelibby
31-12-2021, 06:17 PM
Hibs wanting to recall Stephen Bradley from Ayr Utd

Cant have him pmaying under Graeme Mathie now can we....

Since452
31-12-2021, 07:11 PM
Gordon - overated.

I wish he was.

Unseen work
31-12-2021, 10:09 PM
Ross County, St Mirren and Morcrembe all want Gogic.

Hibee Mac
31-12-2021, 10:24 PM
Ross County, St Mirren and Morcrembe all want Gogic.St Mirren can have him for McGrath

NORTHERNHIBBY
31-12-2021, 10:41 PM
You could see Goodwin turning him into the effective nasty bustard that he was.

ekhibee
01-01-2022, 12:10 AM
I work beside Bradley's aunt and she's always saying she hopes he makes a good career for himself from football. I saw him a couple of times, both as subs and there is lot of potential there, he has good close control and a bit of pace too.In the game I saw him at ER he seemed to be playing on the right side of midfield but I'm not sure whether that's his natural position. Good young player though, and just the kind of player that I think would flourish under Maloney, but that's just my opinion.

we are hibs
01-01-2022, 08:24 AM
Trying to sign Ewan Henderson from Celtic

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JohnM1875
01-01-2022, 08:37 AM
Trying to sign Ewan Henderson from Celtic

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Any idea of it's a loan or permanent? He's highly thought of, I know that. But never really seen him play.

we are hibs
01-01-2022, 08:41 AM
Any idea of it's a loan or permanent? He's highly thought of, I know that. But never really seen him play.Scott Burns said we would need to offer a fee plus add ons. Also said he had an eye on going to Italy like his brother

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we are hibs
01-01-2022, 08:44 AM
Hibs boss Shaun Maloney is lining up a move for Celtic midfielder Ewan Henderson.
The 21-year-old is out of contract in the summer and is currently considering his options.

Maloney is hoping to convince him to move to Easter Road on a long-term deal.

Hibs are likely to have to offer*Celtic*a future fee and add ons to seal a deal in the window.
Maloney knows Henderson well from his time coaching the Celtic development squad.
Henderson has only played once under*Ange Postecoglou.

The Celtic midfielder has Serie B options and was looking to follow in his brother’s footsteps in the summer.







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Dmas
01-01-2022, 08:46 AM
Any idea of it's a loan or permanent? He's highly thought of, I know that. But never really seen him play.

I liked the look of him when he started getting a few games for Celtic but he didn’t stand out too much when he went to Ross county on loan IMO interesting to be immediately linked to a midfielder though considering how many we have and with Tait coming in

JohnM1875
01-01-2022, 08:52 AM
I liked the look of him when he started getting a few games for Celtic but he didn’t stand out too much when he went to Ross county on loan IMO interesting to be immediately linked to a midfielder though considering how many we have and with Tait coming in

Just Read the article and Burns is saying we're after a midfielder and defender this window.

Just asked my Pars supporting mate about Henderson and he said Ewan was really good for them in the games he played. That was obviously in the Championship though.

Heisenberg
01-01-2022, 09:00 AM
Just Read the article and Burns is saying we're after a midfielder and defender this window.

Just asked my Pars supporting mate about Henderson and he said Ewan was really good for them in the games he played. That was obviously in the Championship though.

I’d be shocked if we didn’t want a striker too.

Henderson really hasn’t played much football for his age. Always gets a good reputation but a failed loan at Ross County and a short spell at the Pars doesn’t inspire confidence that he could come in and make an immediate difference.

JohnM1875
01-01-2022, 09:05 AM
I’d be shocked if we didn’t want a striker too.

Henderson really hasn’t played much football for his age. Always gets a good reputation but a failed loan at Ross County and a short spell at the Pars doesn’t inspire confidence that he could come in and make an immediate difference.

I totally agree about a striker. But with Doidge back fit we have Nisbet, Doidge and Boyle that can all play up top. That's three fighting for the one position seeing as seem to only play one up just now.

I'd ideally want a defender, mid and striker though.

04Sauzee
01-01-2022, 09:07 AM
Just Read the article and Burns is saying we're after a midfielder and defender this window.

Just asked my Pars supporting mate about Henderson and he said Ewan was really good for them in the games he played. That was obviously in the Championship though.
Only seen him play once for Dunfermline whenhe was on loan and it was in the Fife Derby where he was subbed off as Dunfermline were dismantled 5-1 by a rampant Raith Rovers. Dunfermline were a basket case off a team mind. Not sure how he got on with Ross County previously? The one thing id say is that maybe Ross County and Dunfermline were never going to play to his strengths.

we are hibs
01-01-2022, 09:08 AM
Different players fit better at different clubs. We are obviously looking to dominate the ball as much as possible and they probably wouldnt have done that at Ross County or Dunfermline.


Scott Allan had an alright loan period at Dundee 1st half of the season and 2nd half of the season for Hibs he was unplayable in a better team with more quality around him.


Ive not really seen Henderson lots but he done pretty well when he came on in Europe for Celtic and also scored last month.

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Spudster
01-01-2022, 09:20 AM
I see Allan Campbell only has 6 months left on his contract. Anyone know he got on a Luton?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/transfers/endendevertraege/statistik?plus=0&jahr=2022&ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=alle&altersklasse=alle&land_id=190&yt0=Show

The Modfather
01-01-2022, 09:24 AM
I see Allan Campbell only has 6 months left on his contract. Anyone know he got on a Luton?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/transfers/endendevertraege/statistik?plus=0&jahr=2022&ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=alle&altersklasse=alle&land_id=190&yt0=Show

No idea how he has got on but surprised he seems to have only been on a 1 year deal at Luton. I’d have pushed the boat out for him last summer and would still do so. Think he’s the kind of quality, and attributes, needed for Maloney’s 3-4-3.

Nicho87
01-01-2022, 09:28 AM
You would think with

mueller in
Tait in

Potential out:
Hallberg
Mackie
Gogic
Allan
Gullan

It maybe obvious but I think one or two will be shown the door to trim the squad.

Centre back prioty
Central midfielder
Maybe another striker

04Sauzee
01-01-2022, 09:29 AM
No idea how he has got on but surprised he seems to have only been on a 1 year deal at Luton. I’d have pushed the boat out for him last summer and would still do so. Think he’s the kind of quality, and attributes, needed for Maloney’s 3-4-3.

Stunned that they would pay a fee and only give him a 1 year contract?
Looks like he's played 10 games for Luton, he was out for 3 weeks with ankle ligament damage, and although he was back quickly think it took him some time to get back up to speed and be a 1st pick

Slim Shady
01-01-2022, 10:19 AM
Any idea of it's a loan or permanent? He's highly thought of, I know that. But never really seen him play.

3.5 year contract.

JohnM1875
01-01-2022, 10:21 AM
Add Joe Newell to that list. Heading back down south.

Is that why he's not played the last few games?

Guessing we've received a decent bid then seeing as he just signed a new deal at the start of 2021.

Callum_62
01-01-2022, 10:22 AM
Add Joe Newell to that list. Heading back down south.Is he?

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SHODAN
01-01-2022, 10:51 AM
How are Ewan Henderson's corners?

BegbieHSC
01-01-2022, 10:56 AM
How are Ewan Henderson's corners?

He was there in 2016 - front row, and who Liam ran to after assisting the winner. Hopefully he was taking tips.

Oscar T Grouch
01-01-2022, 11:03 AM
Not seen this on here but seems like confirmation that Gogic is away

Hibernian midfielder Alex Gogic has been told he is free to find a new club, with St Mirren and Ross County credited with an interest in the former Hamilton man. (Scotsman)

Unseen work
01-01-2022, 11:23 AM
Where is the Newell leaving chat coming from?

He would be a massive loss imo. Very good player, well liked and very influential in the team.

I’d be expecting a decent amount of money if he’s going anywhere.

I think he’d be brilliant in the Maloney set up too.

Bridge hibs
01-01-2022, 11:28 AM
Where is the Newell leaving chat coming from?

He would be a massive loss imo. Very good player, well liked and very influential in the team.

I’d be expecting a decent amount of money if he’s going anywhere.

I think he’d be brilliant in the Maloney set up too.A poster Slim Shady posted it on this thread earlier but deleted his post

500miles
01-01-2022, 11:31 AM
Henderson is a great wee player. Has done well for Celtic on a European stage. He's a bit lightweight but battles hard, he's technically great and non stop.

Can play wingback and anywhere in midfield.

Since452
01-01-2022, 11:31 AM
Where is the Newell leaving chat coming from?

He would be a massive loss imo. Very good player, well liked and very influential in the team.

I’d be expecting a decent amount of money if he’s going anywhere.

I think he’d be brilliant in the Maloney set up too.

Yup. I think he'd thrive with the way Maloney appears to want us to play.

Unseen work
01-01-2022, 11:40 AM
Rumours starting on Social Media of Celtic wanting Boyle.

Wilson
01-01-2022, 11:47 AM
Rumours starting on Social Media of Celtic wanting Boyle.

Must have already signed everyone in the J League...

Aldo
01-01-2022, 11:47 AM
Rumours starting on Social Media of Celtic wanting Boyle.

Really. They better get their big chequebook out as he won’t be cheap!


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Jones28
01-01-2022, 11:48 AM
Rumours starting on Social Media of Celtic wanting Boyle.

£2 million + Ewan Henderson gets you a place in the queue.

Since452
01-01-2022, 11:49 AM
Rumours starting on Social Media of Celtic wanting Boyle.

Can they afford him?

Since90+2
01-01-2022, 11:53 AM
Can they afford him?

They could afford him, whether they'd actually pay the fee Hibs would want is another matter. I'd be surprised if the club took anything less than 2.5 million for him.

04Sauzee
01-01-2022, 11:55 AM
They could afford him, whether they'd actually pay the fee Hibs would want is another matter. I'd be surprised if the club took anything less than 2.5 million for him.

The last 12 months form you'd have to think 2.5m as an absolute minimum, I'd probably be wanting about 3m. Maybe 2.5m + Johnston although he's not everyone's cup of tea I think he's a fantastic footballer.

GloryGlory
01-01-2022, 11:58 AM
Rumours starting on Social Media of Celtic wanting Boyle.

They've just signed a couple of midfielders and a forward from the J League, they're looking to sign a forward Zinedine Ferhat from Nimes and have a couple coming back from injury - where is Boyle going to fit in?

Steven79
01-01-2022, 11:59 AM
They've just signed a couple of midfielders and a forward from the J League, they're looking to sign a forward Zinedine Ferhat from Nimes and have a couple coming back from injury - where is Boyle going to fit in?

When has that ever stopped the Old Firm?

I think that Martin would rather be playing every week than making more money on the Celtic bench.

GreenCastle
01-01-2022, 12:01 PM
Celtic have a massive squad now so would surely need to get rid before adding anymore.

Unseen work
01-01-2022, 12:22 PM
When has that ever stopped the Old Firm?

I think that Martin would rather be playing every week than making more money on the Celtic bench.

I’m not so sure.

I think the chance to double his money and stay close to home would be very appealing.

He wouldn’t start every week but I think he would get a very decent amount of minutes as he’d suit their style of play perfectly.

davhibby
01-01-2022, 12:26 PM
The last 12 months form you'd have to think 2.5m as an absolute minimum, I'd probably be wanting about 3m. Maybe 2.5m + Johnston although he's not everyone's cup of tea I think he's a fantastic footballer.

Johnston would add to the fee they’d have to pay, he’s awful

Nicho87
01-01-2022, 12:33 PM
I’d prefer taking a punt on mikey johnston, think he when fit is a real prospect and if Celtic were to let him go a player that would tick a lot of boxes

The Modfather
01-01-2022, 12:42 PM
Where is the Newell leaving chat coming from?

He would be a massive loss imo. Very good player, well liked and very influential in the team.

I’d be expecting a decent amount of money if he’s going anywhere.

I think he’d be brilliant in the Maloney set up too.

All about opinions. I’d not lose much sleep if we let Newell move on for free. He might well become a different, more progressive and dynamic player under Maloney. However from the player we’ve had to date we’ve already got JDH. I’m not desperate to move Newell on and he’s the kind of quality backup we need if we’re to really kick on. However I’m not sure he’d make my midfield when all are fit and that’s before we look to upgrade the midfield options. Like a few others I think their wage could be better used for the greater good.

Real Emerald
01-01-2022, 12:43 PM
I’d prefer taking a punt on mikey johnston, think he when fit is a real prospect and if Celtic were to let him go a player that would tick a lot of boxes

Mikey Johnston is awful. He’s greedy with the ball and mostly always makes the wrong decisions and loses possession. He is nowhere near Boyle and would be a massive downgrade.

St.Kristopher
01-01-2022, 12:43 PM
I’m not so sure.

I think the chance to double his money and stay close to home would be very appealing.

He wouldn’t start every week but I think he would get a very decent amount of minutes as he’d suit their style of play perfectly.

I’m not sure Celtic would be willing to double what he is on at Hibs, if the £’s I have heard are true.

Unseen work
01-01-2022, 12:59 PM
Previously linked Dion Charles signs for Bolton.

Wonder if Ross was still here if he’d have signed for us.

Nicho87
01-01-2022, 12:59 PM
Mikey Johnston is awful. He’s greedy with the ball and mostly always makes the wrong decisions and loses possession. He is nowhere near Boyle and would be a massive downgrade.

Who said downgrade

I’d be getting him and keeping boyle

Real Emerald
01-01-2022, 01:05 PM
Who said downgrade

I’d be getting him and keeping boyle

Keeping Boyle is essential, if you add Johnston to that then fine. Boyle has to stay.

500miles
01-01-2022, 01:06 PM
Celtic have a massive squad now so would surely need to get rid before adding anymore.

I'm not sure that they'll be looking at a speedy winger who turns 30 next season.

Unseen work
01-01-2022, 01:07 PM
Henderson is a good young player. Really comfortable on the ball under pressure, receives it on the half then and plays forward at pace. Unsure if we’d play him as part of the central 2 though or the 2 off Nisbet.

Can’t see it happening but one player is like to go for us Stephen Kelly at Rangers.

Far too good to be sat in the stands every week and was really good at Ross County last season.

One thing I’m wary of is us signing all young players. We need some players with a bit of experience in there too.

J-C
01-01-2022, 01:16 PM
I’d be shocked if we didn’t want a striker too.

Henderson really hasn’t played much football for his age. Always gets a good reputation but a failed loan at Ross County and a short spell at the Pars doesn’t inspire confidence that he could come in and make an immediate difference.

Remember we have Mueller, it looks like Maloney favours attackers rather than just strikers, could be a front 3 of Boyle, Nisbet and Mueller, all interchangeable with support from midfield.

Ronniekirk
01-01-2022, 01:30 PM
I totally agree about a striker. But with Doidge back fit we have Nisbet, Doidge and Boyle that can all play up top. That's three fighting for the one position seeing as seem to only play one up just now.

I'd ideally want a defender, mid and striker though.

Doidge isn’t back up to speed yet if he has a set back it would leave us short yet again
Equally Nesbit could get injured


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Keyser Sauzee
01-01-2022, 01:33 PM
Remember we have Mueller, it looks like Maloney favours attackers rather than just strikers, could be a front 3 of Boyle, Nisbet and Mueller, all interchangeable with support from midfield.

Nisbet is only a striker, he wouldn’t be interchangeable in that line up.

Tug Wilson
01-01-2022, 01:35 PM
Remember we have Mueller, it looks like Maloney favours attackers rather than just strikers, could be a front 3 of Boyle, Nisbet and Mueller, all interchangeable with support from midfield.

Think this is very much on the cards. Not sure that Doidge fits the Maloney system.

Hibiza
01-01-2022, 01:38 PM
Newell and Gogic leaving wouldn't worry me.

Tarrahib
01-01-2022, 01:40 PM
Previously linked Dion Charles signs for Bolton.

Wonder if Ross was still here if he’d have signed for us.
We’ll never know.

Haymaker
01-01-2022, 02:00 PM
:hyper

J-C
01-01-2022, 02:01 PM
Nisbet is only a striker, he wouldn’t be interchangeable in that line up.

He does a hell of a lot more than playing through the middle, he fairly mobile and can be seen out wide quite a few times during a game.

cameronw-hfc
01-01-2022, 02:29 PM
He does a hell of a lot more than playing through the middle, he fairly mobile and can be seen out wide quite a few times during a game.

Be careful insinuating Nisbet puts in a shift lol. I agree with you but others are convinced he doesn't try a leg.

Gaffer1875
01-01-2022, 02:30 PM
Would like us to go for Henderson and Zak Rudden, they fit the profile of recent signings and have loads of potential.


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04Sauzee
01-01-2022, 02:57 PM
St Johnstone sign Dan Cleary on 2.5 year deal

Brightside
01-01-2022, 03:03 PM
Be careful insinuating Nisbet puts in a shift lol. I agree with you but others are convinced he doesn't try a leg.

It’s crazy that people have that opinion of him. He’s much more than “just” a striker. His link up play is excellent and his work rate is top class.

Keyser Sauzee
01-01-2022, 03:16 PM
It’s crazy that people have that opinion of him. He’s much more than “just” a striker. His link up play is excellent and his work rate is top class.

He does have the attributes u say, playing as a central striker. He doesnt play the no.10, he doesn’t play out wide, he plays as a striker and he wouldn’t perform well out wide or in the no.10.

hibbyfraelibby
01-01-2022, 03:21 PM
How are Ewan Henderson's corners?
Deliverable

Hibernian Verse
01-01-2022, 03:31 PM
St Johnstone sign Dan Cleary on 2.5 year deal

10 yellow cards in 23 games, just the type of player that suits that club.

cameronw-hfc
01-01-2022, 03:42 PM
Went to school with the Hendos. Ewan was the year below me but the whole school knew he was the better out of the two at Celtic. Liam would tell you the same.

Both really nice lads as well.

Edit: as a player, Ewan is more "silky" than Liam, probably a bit better technically, but like Liam, no pace at all.

Smartie
01-01-2022, 03:55 PM
It’s crazy that people have that opinion of him. He’s much more than “just” a striker. His link up play is excellent and his work rate is top class.

Kevin Nisbet hasn’t shown that nearly enough for Hibs over the past year.

I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt in that I don’t think the way we’ve set up has always suited him and I wonder if he’s been forced to play through injury at times. He’s also looked much more interested in recent weeks - there might be any number of reasons for that.

His link up play and work rate have occasionally been acceptable. Never in a million years would I describe them as “top class”.

I reckon Shaun Maloney’s biggest decisions over the next month will be around whether or not he can trust Nisbet to consistently deliver for him, and whether or not it might be worth accepting any of the bids that come in for him - and those decisions might actually make of break this season.

Nisbet has looked good in the past couple of games though, so I’m much more open to the prospect of him staying than I was a month or so ago.

Hibiza
01-01-2022, 03:58 PM
Would like us to go for Henderson and Zak Rudden, they fit the profile of recent signings and have loads of potential.


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Only put a shift in , in the last few games ( transfer window).

Hibiza
01-01-2022, 04:00 PM
Soz gaffer, got the reply page wrong.

Unseen work
01-01-2022, 04:46 PM
Went to school with the Hendos. Ewan was the year below me but the whole school knew he was the better out of the two at Celtic. Liam would tell you the same.

Both really nice lads as well.

Edit: as a player, Ewan is more "silky" than Liam, probably a bit better technically, but like Liam, no pace at all.

Heard a lot of people say Ewan is better than Liam and if true he’s got a chance of a great career as Liam is showing in Italy.

What I wonder though is if Liam is just better suited to that league. Not as physical and a lot more technical which is ideal for him if playing centre mid. Ewan might see this is a good route as he lacks pace as you’ve mentioned.

I’ve got a feeling we’d play him as one of the centre two midfielders as he’s really calm, can play on the half turn and play forward. It would then come down to if he’s any good defensively.

Couple of times I’ve seen him though he looks a lovely football, albeit they were for Celtic. Light on his feet, good feet, great touch and pass.

The only thing is we would then have Magennis, JDH, Henderson, Tait and Campbell all under the age of 24 competing for a centre mid role. We can only develop so many and that’s not including Hallberg, Gogic and Newell.

SMAXXA
01-01-2022, 04:55 PM
£2 million + Ewan Henderson gets you a place in the queue.

Thank god your no in the negotiations 2m plus an out of contract squad player at best wouldn’t even get into the same street never mind the queue

Unseen work
01-01-2022, 05:02 PM
I seem to remember us being linked with Bevis Mugabi in the summer, possibly on TDD.

Was there anything in that?

Would be a decent signing with his pace alone given we’ll now play a high line. Very physical and good defender.

Since90+2
01-01-2022, 05:08 PM
Thank god your no in the negotiations 2m plus an out of contract squad player at best wouldn’t even get into the same street never mind the queue

I don't think it will be a million miles away from what Boyle would go for. Would Celtic be due a development fee for Henderson? Add that to the £2 million and it starts creeping towards what I think Hibs would take. If a bid that came in around 2.5/3 million ish then I think he'd maybe be away. There'd also be a consideration about what Boyle wanted to do, if he made it clear he wanted to join Celtic I think it forces the club's hand somewhat.

If it was down to me I'd not take anything less than 3.5/4 million. I think the club will look at it differently though.

eastmainsmsh
01-01-2022, 05:09 PM
They've just signed a couple of midfielders and a forward from the J League, they're looking to sign a forward Zinedine Ferhat from Nimes and have a couple coming back from injury - where is Boyle going to fit in?

They will be singing Aneka japanese boys 🚕

SMAXXA
01-01-2022, 05:10 PM
I don't think it will be a million miles away from what Boyle would go for. Would Celtic be due a development fee for Henderson? Add that to the £2 million and it starts creeping towards what I think Hibs would take. If a bid that came in around 2.5/3 million ish then I think he'd maybe be away. There'd also be a consideration about what Boyle wanted to do, if he made it clear he wanted to join Celtic I think it forces the club's hand somewhat.

If it was down to me I'd not take anything less than 3.5/4 million. I think the club will look at it differently though.

Why do you think the club will look at it differently though? He’s our best attacking player not long signed an extension on a very good wage we will want more than 2m that’s for sure even with the development fee

Big_Franck
01-01-2022, 05:10 PM
I seem to remember us being linked with Bevis Mugabi in the summer, possibly on TDD.

Was there anything in that?

Would be a decent signing with his pace alone given we’ll now play a high line. Very physical and good defender.

I've not seen that much of him but I thought he was great against us at Easter Road recently. He's so quick and strong and he's dominant in the air. If he also communicates and organises well then he's exactly the kind of centre half we need to play centrally in a 3 with Porteous and Hanlon either side.

bingo70
01-01-2022, 05:12 PM
I seem to remember us being linked with Bevis Mugabi in the summer, possibly on TDD.

Was there anything in that?

Would be a decent signing with his pace alone given we’ll now play a high line. Very physical and good defender.

Linked with Celtic in todays papers I think.

eastmainsmsh
01-01-2022, 05:12 PM
Newell and Gogic leaving wouldn't worry me.

Wonder if Heck is interested in Newell

Libby Hibby
01-01-2022, 05:14 PM
I seem to remember us being linked with Bevis Mugabi in the summer, possibly on TDD.

Was there anything in that?

Would be a decent signing with his pace alone given we’ll now play a high line. Very physical and good defender.

Would be a good addition to the side. Mentioned him a few days back on here but it was unsurprisingly shot down by someone.

04Sauzee
01-01-2022, 05:17 PM
Toby Sibbick looks like he could on his way out of Barnsley and I'm sure we bid for him or had strong interest in him under Ross. Different era now of course. Can play a few positions mostly RB or RCB and is still young athletic and quick.

Struggling to get a game in a struggling Barnsley team though.

Allant1981
01-01-2022, 05:17 PM
It’s crazy that people have that opinion of him. He’s much more than “just” a striker. His link up play is excellent and his work rate is top class.

His link link up play is anything but top class

bingo70
01-01-2022, 05:20 PM
Why do you think the club will look at it differently though? He’s our best attacking player not long signed an extension on a very good wage we will want more than 2m that’s for sure even with the development fee

I think at 28 years old, there’ll be a recognition from Hibs that he’s approaching that age where that type of winger can quite quickly become less effective.

Cashing in on him now would be a difficult and unpopular choice but in terms of rebuilding the squad and giving ourselves the best chance of replacing him it may be the sensible thing to do.

bigwheel
01-01-2022, 05:25 PM
I think at 28 years old, there’ll be a recognition from Hibs that he’s approaching that age where that type of winger can quite quickly become less effective.

Cashing in on him now would be a difficult and unpopular choice but in terms of rebuilding the squad and giving ourselves the best chance of replacing him it may be the sensible thing to do.

Hope not ….I’d rather we keep our best players and he stays with us for years to come . He’s got a good number of years left playing at this level .

SMAXXA
01-01-2022, 05:32 PM
I think at 28 years old, there’ll be a recognition from Hibs that he’s approaching that age where that type of winger can quite quickly become less effective.

Cashing in on him now would be a difficult and unpopular choice but in terms of rebuilding the squad and giving ourselves the best chance of replacing him it may be the sensible thing to do.

Regardless of that and I agree it’s a valid point he had much more value to us and his new contract alone will command of day at least 3m. 28 isn’t like the 28 of old he’s still got 10 years in him albeit keeps himself fit and 5 at a right decent level

Unseen work
01-01-2022, 05:34 PM
Toby Sibbick looks like he could on his way out of Barnsley and I'm sure we bid for him or had strong interest in him under Ross. Different era now of course. Can play a few positions mostly RB or RCB and is still young athletic and quick.

Struggling to get a game in a struggling Barnsley team though.

Is he not another with injury issues?

Think hearts would be all over him if there’s any chance he’s available.

bingo70
01-01-2022, 05:35 PM
Hope not ….I’d rather we keep our best players and he stays with us for years to come . He’s got a good number of years left playing at this level .

I don’t think I agree he’s got a good number of years left.

I think he would be incredibly hard to replace but we’re going to need to at some point.

I don’t think he’s a brilliant football, it’s his burst of pace that makes him so effective. Once he hits 30 and that starts to go, I suspect his form could match it quite quickly.

If we don’t sell him I will be delighted as short term it would be so difficult to replace him. If my job was to look at the bigger picture, I could see the attraction of cashing in on him now.

Jones28
01-01-2022, 05:48 PM
Thank god your no in the negotiations 2m plus an out of contract squad player at best wouldn’t even get into the same street never mind the queue

So what do you value him at? £4m? £5m?

£2m-£2.5m is the most we will get for Boyle if he ever decides to go - fwiw I don’t think he will. He’s signed a new contract and is at the peak of his powers, with a settled family and a wife who also plays for Hibs which suggests to me if he were to leave it would be the Old Firm as no one else could afford him.

bigwheel
01-01-2022, 05:49 PM
I don’t think I agree he’s got a good number of years left.

I think he would be incredibly hard to replace but we’re going to need to at some point.

I don’t think he’s a brilliant football, it’s his burst of pace that makes him so effective. Once he hits 30 and that starts to go, I suspect his form could match it quite quickly.

If we don’t sell him I will be delighted as short term it would be so difficult to replace him. If my job was to look at the bigger picture, I could see the attraction of cashing in on him now.

He’s just turned 28 hasn’t he? Can’t see any reason he cant play easily until 33/34 at his current level . That’s as long as he’s been with the club. He’s just reaching his peak - the next few years will be his best.

I’d say you are underestimating his technical level . His pace is a big asset but he’s much more than that these days .

Sure if we want to cash in , then now would be the time to sell - but I hope the people in charge are thinking let’s keep our best players together and try to progress as a team ?

GreenCastle
01-01-2022, 05:53 PM
One thing is for certain..we shouldn’t be selling one of our best players mid-season unless it’s crazy money. That would not be a good move if they want fans to sign up for next seasons ST’s.

Curious to see if we announce players next few days to give them time to settle in before we return to games.

Dylan Tait to play his last game for Raith tomorrow against Dunfermline before he comes back to Hibs.

Unseen work
01-01-2022, 05:54 PM
Rumours St Johnstones bid for Rudden was knocked back.

Also that St Johnstone want Gullan.

SMAXXA
01-01-2022, 05:56 PM
So what do you value him at? £4m? £5m?

£2m-£2.5m is the most we will get for Boyle if he ever decides to go - fwiw I don’t think he will. He’s signed a new contract and is at the peak of his powers, with a settled family and a wife who also plays for Hibs which suggests to me if he were to leave it would be the Old Firm as no one else could afford him.

He won’t be sold for less than 3 million and neither he should

BegbieHSC
01-01-2022, 07:47 PM
Boyle’s going nowhere. Celtic are too arrogant to consider paying what we’d be looking for (won’t be less than £4m), and as far as I’m aware, Boyle is by a distance our highest paid player with that new contract, so I can’t imagine the money situation would be desperate.

Unseen work
01-01-2022, 08:14 PM
How much is Boyle meant to be on here?

Quite a few have said he’s on a lot.

Since452
01-01-2022, 08:14 PM
Boyle’s going nowhere. Celtic are too arrogant to consider paying what we’d be looking for (won’t be less than £4m), and as far as I’m aware, Boyle is by a distance our highest paid player with that new contract, so I can’t imagine the money situation would be desperate.

Agreed. Worth more to us than Celtic would be willing to pay.

Since90+2
01-01-2022, 08:18 PM
Boyle’s going nowhere. Celtic are too arrogant to consider paying what we’d be looking for (won’t be less than £4m), and as far as I’m aware, Boyle is by a distance our highest paid player with that new contract, so I can’t imagine the money situation would be desperate.

You don't think the club would take 3.5 million for him? I think he'd be off if we got offered that money to be honest.

NC1875
01-01-2022, 09:08 PM
You don't think the club would take 3.5 million for him? I think he'd be off if we got offered that money to be honest.

Exactly, Boyles a good player but 3.5million ? I’d bite your hand off for that every day of the week for him. He’s not going to get any better than he is now

B.H.F.C
01-01-2022, 09:15 PM
Exactly, Boyles a good player but 3.5million ? I’d bite your hand off for that every day of the week for him. He’s not going to get any better than he is now

Problem we’ve got is replacing him, if we’re to lose him at any point, even if we take in good money.

He’s going to get 20+ goals. He’ll probably end up with most assists as well.

I don’t think we will lose him because I think he’s worth more to us than he is to anyone else. Just coming up for 29, I don’t think anyone is going to be paying millions for him.

bigwheel
01-01-2022, 09:28 PM
Exactly, Boyles a good player but 3.5million ? I’d bite your hand off for that every day of the week for him. He’s not going to get any better than he is now

Why do we care about money in the bank…since when did that become important to fans….let Gordon and co worry about that. Let’s keep our better players.


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St.Kristopher
01-01-2022, 09:34 PM
How much is Boyle meant to be on here?

Quite a few have said he’s on a lot.


I have no evidence for this, but I have seen it mentioned by people with no reason to make it up that it is c. £10k per week. Porteous joked on a recent Hibs video that Boyle was on big money also.

bingo70
01-01-2022, 09:34 PM
Why do we care about money in the bank…since when did that become important to fans….let Gordon and co worry about that. Let’s keep our better players.


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Because money in the bank can buy more good players on the pitch.

I know it doesn’t always work like that but that’s essentially that business model. Holding on to players until they leave or lose form and having nothing tk reinvest in the rest of the squad is a poor plan.

That said, Boyle is a bit different, as others have said, in the short term he’s worth more to us than anybody else is likely to pay. He’s too Important to us to consider selling unless it’s for crazy money and we have a direct replacement lined up.

Stuart93
01-01-2022, 09:40 PM
Because money in the bank can buy more good players on the pitch.

I know it doesn’t always work like that but that’s essentially that business model. Holding on to players until they leave or lose form and having nothing tk reinvest in the rest of the squad is a poor plan.

That said, Boyle is a bit different, as others have said, in the short term he’s worth more to us than anybody else is likely to pay. He’s too Important to us to consider selling unless it’s for crazy money and we have a direct replacement lined up.

I’m no sure you’d get as good a player as boyle on the wages we’d be willing to pay. Boyle could no doubt be playing else where and earning a fortune imo

bigwheel
01-01-2022, 09:43 PM
Because money in the bank can buy more good players on the pitch.

I know it doesn’t always work like that but that’s essentially that business model. Holding on to players until they leave or lose form and having nothing tk reinvest in the rest of the squad is a poor plan.

That said, Boyle is a bit different, as others have said, in the short term he’s worth more to us than anybody else is likely to pay. He’s too Important to us to consider selling unless it’s for crazy money and we have a direct replacement lined up.

Unless it was silly money, as you say, I’d want us to have the ambition of keeping our better players. Boyle’s got loads to offer. I may be misreading the tone, but a few on here seem to be more interested in the trade than building on what we’ve already got.


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Blaster
01-01-2022, 09:45 PM
Boyle is on a very good wage.

superfurryhibby
01-01-2022, 09:46 PM
Because money in the bank can buy more good players on the pitch.

I know it doesn’t always work like that but that’s essentially that business model. Holding on to players until they leave or lose form and having nothing tk reinvest in the rest of the squad is a poor plan.

That said, Boyle is a bit different, as others have said, in the short term he’s worth more to us than anybody else is likely to pay. He’s too Important to us to consider selling unless it’s for crazy money and we have a direct replacement lined up.

Got to laugh, when has it ever worked like?

SMAXXA
01-01-2022, 09:50 PM
Got to laugh, when has it ever worked like?

But he’s right isn’t he? Unless you have an alternative business model you would want to propose?

bingo70
01-01-2022, 09:51 PM
Got to laugh, when has it ever worked like?

It’s why every player at every club has a price tag.

It’s even more important to do it in Scotland as we’ve got a ***** TV deal.

bingo70
01-01-2022, 09:55 PM
But he’s right isn’t he? Unless you have an alternative business model you would want to propose?

The alternative model is to keep all your best players and build a squad out of them so you win things and slake money that way. With the old firm being as dominant as they are here though, that wouldn’t work. The odd cup here or there is the best any team could hope for and that wouldn’t bring in enough income to keep building a stronger and stronger side.

Knowing when to sell players, maximising the transfer income you receive and reinvesting it well is the only viable option in Scotland imo. Unfortunately the bit about reinvesting it well is a lot easier on paper than it is in real life.

superfurryhibby
01-01-2022, 10:00 PM
But he’s right isn’t he? Unless you have an alternative business model you would want to propose?

That’s a question Ron Gordon has to answer, but I think he wants more for Hibs than that.

superfurryhibby
01-01-2022, 10:02 PM
The alternative model is to keep all your best players and build a squad out of them so you win things and slake money that way. With the old firm being as dominant as they are here though, that wouldn’t work. The odd cup here or there is the best any team could hope for and that wouldn’t bring in enough income to keep building a stronger and stronger side.

Knowing when to sell players, maximising the transfer income you receive and reinvesting it well is the only viable option in Scotland imo. Unfortunately the bit about reinvesting it well is a lot easier on paper than it is in real life.

What do you gain by selling them on, the exact same scenario. Why would Gordon even bother n that basis?

Unseen work
01-01-2022, 10:06 PM
I have no evidence for this, but I have seen it mentioned by people with no reason to make it up that it is c. £10k per week. Porteous joked on a recent Hibs video that Boyle was on big money also.

Sorry I just can’t believe we’re paying anyone that.

I was thinking he’d be on closer to 5k which for us would be a big wage and our highest earner.

I know the video you mean but I just can’t imagine we’d pay anyone close to 10k a week.

bingo70
01-01-2022, 10:25 PM
What do you gain by selling them on, the exact same scenario. Why would Gordon even bother n that basis?

Because you sell one good player and bring in two to three better ones. In doing so you’re then buying more sellable assets that you can repeat the process with later and will improve the team in the short term as well.

I don’t get what you mean about why would Gordon even bother in that basis?

If you’ve got one good player in your team, you’re not going to improve by keeping hold of that one player, you need to find a way of bringing more good players in. I’m not saying we are a one man team but that’s essentially the principles of what we will be trying to do when we sell anybody.

superfurryhibby
01-01-2022, 10:31 PM
Because you sell one good player and bring in two to three better ones. In doing so you’re then buying more sellable assets that you can repeat the process with later and will improve the team in the short term as well.

I don’t get what you mean about why would Gordon even bother in that basis?

If you’ve got one good player in your team, you’re not going to improve by keeping hold of that one player, you need to find a way of bringing more good players in. I’m not saying we are a one man team but that’s essentially the principles of what we will be trying to do when we sell anybody.

See my earlier comment. I’m struggling to think of times when we sold a good player and brought better in.

bingo70
01-01-2022, 10:34 PM
See my earlier comment. I’m struggling to think of times when we sold a good player and brought better in.

Totally get that, and it’s why the buying of the replacement is the hardest part. I also think Boyle is probably too important to this side to make that gamble with.

As a general point though, that’s how the process should work, it only will if the recruitment is spot on though and I don’t think it has been for a while.

lord bunberry
01-01-2022, 10:35 PM
Because you sell one good player and bring in two to three better ones. In doing so you’re then buying more sellable assets that you can repeat the process with later and will improve the team in the short term as well.

I don’t get what you mean about why would Gordon even bother in that basis?

If you’ve got one good player in your team, you’re not going to improve by keeping hold of that one player, you need to find a way of bringing more good players in. I’m not saying we are a one man team but that’s essentially the principles of what we will be trying to do when we sell anybody.
We’re not going to sign 3 better players than Boyle for the money we get. The team buying him would just sign 3 better players rather than buy Boyle surely?

The 90+2
01-01-2022, 10:36 PM
Hickey to Villa. Hearts due some £.

St.Kristopher
01-01-2022, 10:37 PM
Sorry I just can’t believe we’re paying anyone that.

I was thinking he’d be on closer to 5k which for us would be a big wage and our highest earner.

I know the video you mean but I just can’t imagine we’d pay anyone close to 10k a week.

As I say, I have never seen his contract or bank statements. However the people I have heard this from were equally shocked. Their only response was that it was a real signal of intent from Gordon.

Ron has spent a lot of money and wants to put a product on the field to bring in the fans. Boyle is box office both on and off the park. He is my sons and thousands of other wee Hibees favourite player. He is the first to offer strips, boots tickets to young fans. In doing all of this, Boyle has made himself of more value to Hibs, than any other club. I do think he could earn 10k a week somewhere else, so I wonder if Ron has looked at the full package that Boyle offers us and agreed to match it.

superfurryhibby
01-01-2022, 10:52 PM
Totally get that, and it’s why the buying of the replacement is the hardest part. I also think Boyle is probably too important to this side to make that gamble with.

As a general point though, that’s how the process should work, it only will if the recruitment is spot on though and I don’t think it has been for a while.

Hibs have been two or three very good players short of being a very good side many times during my 50 years of going to games. The only time we didn’t sell our best players prematurely ( and to the OF in particular) was the best period of my Hibs days, during the first five years of Turnbull's management.

I think Ron Gordon has put more money into Hibs than some people realise. That’s why he got rid of Ross ( which I predicted after the cup final and was knocked severely for saying so, I don’t mind, I understand that not every one sees the bigger picture :greengrin) he wants more and isn’t hanging around for 30 years to get it.

Del Boy
02-01-2022, 12:19 AM
Scott Banks at Crystal Palace apparently wanted on loan by 3 spl clubs, dunno if Hibs likely to be one. Probably not, more like st Johnstone, county, Dundee maybe

cameronw-hfc
02-01-2022, 12:23 AM
Heard a lot of people say Ewan is better than Liam and if true he’s got a chance of a great career as Liam is showing in Italy.

What I wonder though is if Liam is just better suited to that league. Not as physical and a lot more technical which is ideal for him if playing centre mid. Ewan might see this is a good route as he lacks pace as you’ve mentioned.

I’ve got a feeling we’d play him as one of the centre two midfielders as he’s really calm, can play on the half turn and play forward. It would then come down to if he’s any good defensively.

Couple of times I’ve seen him though he looks a lovely football, albeit they were for Celtic. Light on his feet, good feet, great touch and pass.

The only thing is we would then have Magennis, JDH, Henderson, Tait and Campbell all under the age of 24 competing for a centre mid role. We can only develop so many and that’s not including Hallberg, Gogic and Newell.



His ability means he's pretty versatile. Can play anywhere along the front 3 and CM, also fill in up top if needed. Although that is one of the reasons he's stalled I think. He can't nail down a position.

Unseen work
02-01-2022, 01:11 AM
Scott Banks at Crystal Palace apparently wanted on loan by 3 spl clubs, dunno if Hibs likely to be one. Probably not, more like st Johnstone, county, Dundee maybe

Interesting he’s been on loan at Alloa and Dunfermline but not played much after signing for Palace from united.

Palace fans seem to rate him though and supposedly has a wand of a left foot.

Be surprised if we were one of the 3 like you said especially if were after Henderson and already have 3 other centre mids in their early 20’s.

Is It On....
02-01-2022, 01:50 AM
Because money in the bank can buy more good players on the pitch.

I know it doesn’t always work like that but that’s essentially that business model. Holding on to players until they leave or lose form and having nothing tk reinvest in the rest of the squad is a poor plan.

That said, Boyle is a bit different, as others have said, in the short term he’s worth more to us than anybody else is likely to pay. He’s too Important to us to consider selling unless it’s for crazy money and we have a direct replacement lined up.

This is the Brentford model - every time you sell, it's at a higher level than the previous time. As such, you can move up the list of players you have identified with your data driven recruitment model. They sold the "irreplaceable" Ollie Watkins for £28m and then paid a club record £6m for Ivan Toney. This isn't an isolated event at Brentford and the data driven player identification model is the way forward for teams like Hibs, you just have to build, improve and trust your system.

bigwheel
02-01-2022, 06:36 AM
This is the Brentford model - every time you sell, it's at a higher level than the previous time. As such, you can move up the list of players you have identified with your data driven recruitment model. They sold the "irreplaceable" Ollie Watkins for £28m and then paid a club record £6m for Ivan Toney. This isn't an isolated event at Brentford and the data driven player identification model is the way forward for teams like Hibs, you just have to build, improve and trust your system.

Isn’t the Brentford model also to do away with youth academies? That seems the opposite direction that Hibs are taking . We’ve doubled down on academy investment.

Bridge hibs
02-01-2022, 06:41 AM
Isn’t the Brentford model also to do away with youth academies? That seems the opposite direction that Hibs are taking . We’ve doubled down on academy investment.Explained here mate -



https://sqaf.club/brentford-b-team-academy/

Apologies if link doesnt work

HendoDelivered
02-01-2022, 06:55 AM
Boyle is on a very good wage.

6k I think

Stonewall
02-01-2022, 07:15 AM
Interesting he’s been on loan at Alloa and Dunfermline but not played much after signing for Palace from united.

Palace fans seem to rate him though and supposedly has a wand of a left foot.

Be surprised if we were one of the 3 like you said especially if were after Henderson and already have 3 other centre mids in their early 20’s.

I think your right. He is extremely talented and usually plays as an attacking mid-fielder. I think he’d be a threat in an attacking sense but unless he’s changed dramatically he’s not going to run around putting in tackles and the defensive side of the game isn’t a strength.

Someone to keep an eye on if he doesn’t make the breakthrough at Palace though and certainly Hodgson rated him. Not sure about Viera though.

That left foot though is incredible.

bigwheel
02-01-2022, 07:18 AM
Explained here mate -



https://sqaf.club/brentford-b-team-academy/

Apologies if link doesnt work

Cheers [emoji106]. Seems different to our current approach , which appears to seek to build the academy production line …

J-C
02-01-2022, 08:29 AM
Players outgrow the club and we sell for a profit, it's always happened and it's meant we don't get into financial trouble and are able to reinvest. I don't think Boyle has outgrown us, he's at his peak age wise, another year or so his value will drop, he's been a good servant to the club and we can't begrudge him that one big pay day if it comes.

brog
02-01-2022, 08:41 AM
This is the Brentford model - every time you sell, it's at a higher level than the previous time. As such, you can move up the list of players you have identified with your data driven recruitment model. They sold the "irreplaceable" Ollie Watkins for £28m and then paid a club record £6m for Ivan Toney. This isn't an isolated event at Brentford and the data driven player identification model is the way forward for teams like Hibs, you just have to build, improve and trust your system.

It's worked well for Brentford but they're operating in a different league, both literally and figuratively, to us. In the last few years Brentford have brought in over £100m from selling not just Watkins but Maupay, Hogan, Gray and Benrahma. These players have had mixed fortunes since. That allows them to splash out £6m on a lower league player like Toney. Meanwhile we splash out our equivalent on a lower league player in Kevin Nisbet but at about 5% of the Toney transfer fee. We've actually tried this route for a few years now going back to Sean Mackie and recently including Magennis, JDH, Mackay and Tait. The problem is we need a really good sale to finance other purchases and while the OF vultures are there, our product is continually undervalued. SJM is of course the perfect example but unfortunately his outstanding form hasn't resulted in a rush of English clubs taking a chance on Scottish talent. To summarise i think we're currently operating a hybrid of the Brentford and traditional academy approach but investing in young talent is only sustainable if we either sell on or have success on field with European/cup money coming in.

GreenCastle
02-01-2022, 08:53 AM
Would be interesting to see the transfer fees received and paid in last 20 or so years with Hibs. Which players have brought in the most £ to the club.

JimBHibees
02-01-2022, 08:55 AM
It's worked well for Brentford but they're operating in a different league, both literally and figuratively, to us. In the last few years Brentford have brought in over £100m from selling not just Watkins but Maupay, Hogan, Gray and Benrahma. These players have had mixed fortunes since. That allows them to splash out £6m on a lower league player like Toney. Meanwhile we splash out our equivalent on a lower league player in Kevin Nisbet but at about 5% of the Toney transfer fee. We've actually tried this route for a few years now going back to Sean Mackie and recently including Magennis, JDH, Mackay and Tait. The problem is we need a really good sale to finance other purchases and while the OF vultures are there, our product is continually undervalued. SJM is of course the perfect example but unfortunately his outstanding form hasn't resulted in a rush of English clubs taking a chance on Scottish talent. To summarise i think we're currently operating a hybrid of the Brentford and traditional academy approach but investing in young talent is only sustainable if we either sell on or have success on field with European/cup money coming in.

Good post think that is accurate. Also Brentford in a very good position geographically to pick up some of the no doubt talented kids who are released from the massive epl academies close by.

Forza Fred
02-01-2022, 09:35 AM
Good post think that is accurate. Also Brentford in a very good position geographically to pick up some of the no doubt talented kids who are released from the massive epl academies close by.

I’m getting worried about Hearts.

They appear to be taking an unconservative approach to where they find players.

Not just Glasgow, Edinburgh or Fife these days.

They have signed 2 Aussies who I’m told were recommended to Hibs prior to Hearts getting them, and one of them..Atkinson will result in a super fee when he moves on.

We still seem to stick to traditional markets…although Mueller’s signing is maybe a taste of things to come.

SMAXXA
02-01-2022, 09:40 AM
I’m getting worried about Hearts.

They appear to be taking an unconservative approach to where they find players.

Not just Glasgow, Edinburgh or Fife these days.

They have signed 2 Aussies who I’m told were recommended to Hibs prior to Hearts getting them, and one of them..Atkinson will result in a super fee when he moves on.

We still seem to stick to traditional markets…although Mueller’s signing is maybe a taste of things to come.

I’m not going to get to worried about them signing a couple of Aussies 1 is a needless chicken that just runs about daft and the other I’ve not seen and suspect you’ve not seen much of either and especially enough to say he will then move on for a super fee.

I’d also rather we are looking to develop our own players and sell them on for a few quid, that seems to have dried up over Tyne and illustrated by lack of game time for young players and also their players called up to respective age groups at international level.

Brightside
02-01-2022, 09:49 AM
I’m getting worried about Hearts.

They appear to be taking an unconservative approach to where they find players.

Not just Glasgow, Edinburgh or Fife these days.

They have signed 2 Aussies who I’m told were recommended to Hibs prior to Hearts getting them, and one of them..Atkinson will result in a super fee when he moves on.

We still seem to stick to traditional markets…although Mueller’s signing is maybe a taste of things to come.

Eh? Is this tongue is cheek?

Since452
02-01-2022, 09:50 AM
Would be interesting to see the transfer fees received and paid in last 20 or so years with Hibs. Which players have brought in the most £ to the club.

Steven Fletcher ahead by a distance. Probably brought in 5/6 million in total with sell on clauses etc.

JimBHibees
02-01-2022, 09:56 AM
Steven Fletcher ahead by a distance. Probably brought in 5/6 million in total with sell on clauses etc.

Surely Scott Brown would be more given we got 5.5m or so.

JimBHibees
02-01-2022, 10:00 AM
I’m getting worried about Hearts.

They appear to be taking an unconservative approach to where they find players.

Not just Glasgow, Edinburgh or Fife these days.

They have signed 2 Aussies who I’m told were recommended to Hibs prior to Hearts getting them, and one of them..Atkinson will result in a super fee when he moves on.

We still seem to stick to traditional markets…although Mueller’s signing is maybe a taste of things to come.

Seen a little of Devlin and useful combative centre mid but not someone personally hugely impressed by. Not seen anything of the other guy and he could be very good as you will have seen much more of him. It is certainly a market we should consider that is for sure however probably much easier other bigger markets much closer.

CallumLaidlaw
02-01-2022, 10:10 AM
Surely Scott Brown would be more given we got 5.5m or so.

£4.4m was the fee. Doubt there was any add ons. Fletcher would depend on sell ons


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BegbieHSC
02-01-2022, 10:17 AM
Hopefully get some rumours soon. Maybe our new recruitment team are more tight lipped than Mathie was.

Ideally, I’d be very keen on getting that Sligo Rovers striker, Johnny Kenny in soon, as there will be stiff competition.

Despite being a bit more muted this season, I reckon Jamie McGrath would be a good signing, as would Ewan Henderson.

Get another centre back in (Not McCart) and right back and we’ll start to have a stronger squad.

MWHIBBIES
02-01-2022, 10:19 AM
Steven Fletcher ahead by a distance. Probably brought in 5/6 million in total with sell on clauses etc.

Don't think it was as high as 6 million. No chance.

We got 3 million up front. Burnley got 8 million from Wolves. Wolves got 12 million from Sunderland. No idea what Burnleys sell on was, and we'd have only got our % of that.

I'd be surprised if it was over 5 million.

JimBHibees
02-01-2022, 10:23 AM
£4.4m was the fee. Doubt there was any add ons. Fletcher would depend on sell ons


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I thought there were add ons for Brown up to a million for playing a number of games for Celtic and internationally

Allant1981
02-01-2022, 10:23 AM
Don't think it was as high as 6 million. No chance.

We got 3 million up front. Burnley got 8 million from Wolves. Wolves got 12 million from Sunderland. No idea what Burnleys sell on was, and we'd have only got our % of that.

I'd be surprised if it was over 5 million.

So you have no idea the same as anyone else

brog
02-01-2022, 10:25 AM
Don't think it was as high as 6 million. No chance.

We got 3 million up front. Burnley got 8 million from Wolves. Wolves got 12 million from Sunderland. No idea what Burnleys sell on was, and we'd have only got our % of that.

I'd be surprised if it was over 5 million.

I was told by someone in ER at the time that we received more for Fletch in milestone and sell on payments than we received for the original transfer. I think £5m is in the ballpark.

easty
02-01-2022, 10:30 AM
I’m getting worried about Hearts.

They appear to be taking an unconservative approach to where they find players.

Not just Glasgow, Edinburgh or Fife these days.

They have signed 2 Aussies who I’m told were recommended to Hibs prior to Hearts getting them, and one of them..Atkinson will result in a super fee when he moves on.

We still seem to stick to traditional markets…although Mueller’s signing is maybe a taste of things to come.

If the boy Atkinson is so highly rated, then why at 22 year old has he not been capped for Australia yet? Do Australia have really good right backs ahead of him?

MWHIBBIES
02-01-2022, 10:33 AM
I was told by someone in ER at the time that we received more for Fletch in milestone and sell on payments than we received for the original transfer. I think £5m is in the ballpark.

Doesn't make sense. 3 million was the fee so you're aiming to beat that, it cant just be 5 million. It must be over 6 million total.

Say the clause was 20% of anything Burnley got. Thats 1.6 million. Takes us to 4.6 million.

Say it was 20% of profit. Thats 1 million. Takes us to 4 million.

Burnley would then need a seriously massive clause for us then to get a big chuck further.

Say Burnley got 20% of anything Wolves got. Thats 2.4 million. We get 20% of that, so 480k. Takes us just over 5 million. That is a very possible scenario.

Burnley get 20% of profit, which I think is the more common way of doing these things, but I do not know for sure. That would only net Burnley 20% of 4 million, so 800k. Our 20% of that would be 160k. Doesn't get us above 5 million.

No idea really, as Aldot has kindly pointed out, but I just don't see a scenario wheres its anywhere near 6 million. Would need us to have put a massive clause in when Burnley were already paying a very good up front

HendoDelivered
02-01-2022, 10:44 AM
I’m getting worried about Hearts.

They appear to be taking an unconservative approach to where they find players.

Not just Glasgow, Edinburgh or Fife these days.

They have signed 2 Aussies who I’m told were recommended to Hibs prior to Hearts getting them, and one of them..Atkinson will result in a super fee when he moves on.

We still seem to stick to traditional markets…although Mueller’s signing is maybe a taste of things to come.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

brog
02-01-2022, 10:45 AM
Doesn't make sense. 3 million was the fee so you're aiming to beat that, it cant just be 5 million. It must be over 6 million total.

Say the clause was 20% of anything Burnley got. Thats 1.6 million. Takes us to 4.6 million.

Say it was 20% of profit. Thats 1 million. Takes us to 4 million.

Burnley would then need a seriously massive clause for us then to get a big chuck further.

Say Burnley got 20% of anything Wolves got. Thats 2.4 million. We get 20% of that, so 480k. Takes us just over 5 million. That is a very possible scenario.

Burnley get 20% of profit, which I think is the more common way of doing these things, but I do not know for sure. That would only net Burnley 20% of 4 million, so 800k. Our 20% of that would be 160k. Doesn't get us above 5 million.

No idea really, as Aldot has kindly pointed out, but I just don't see a scenario wheres its anywhere near 6 million. Would need us to have put a massive clause in when Burnley were already paying a very good up front fee.






All your maths are correct but are predicated on us receiving £3m up front, we didn't.

Crab apple
02-01-2022, 10:52 AM
Hopefully get some rumours soon. Maybe our new recruitment team are more tight lipped than Mathie was.

Ideally, I’d be very keen on getting that Sligo Rovers striker, Johnny Kenny in soon, as there will be stiff competition.

Despite being a bit more muted this season, I reckon Jamie McGrath would be a good signing, as would Ewan Henderson.

Get another centre back in (Not McCart) and right back and we’ll start to have a stronger squad.

McGrath has apparently now signed a pre contract with someone. Sheep were definitely interested as were a few English clubs.

JimBHibees
02-01-2022, 10:57 AM
McGrath has apparently now signed a pre contract with someone. Sheep were definitely interested as were a few English clubs.

Think he will go down south.

MWHIBBIES
02-01-2022, 11:01 AM
All your maths are correct but are predicated on us receiving £3m up front, we didn't.

Are you sure? Because that is what absolultely everything reported? 3 million baseline transfer fee. Are you saying it was less?

Fuzzywuzzy
02-01-2022, 11:14 AM
Hearts had a right back to cover Smith but doesn't get a game and then bring the Australian lad in

Libby Hibby
02-01-2022, 11:21 AM
If the boy Atkinson is so highly rated, then why at 22 year old has he not been capped for Australia yet? Do Australia have really good right backs ahead of him?

Agreed, I think this is a classic case of Hertz propaganda.

davemcbain
02-01-2022, 11:27 AM
Doesn't make sense. 3 million was the fee so you're aiming to beat that, it cant just be 5 million. It must be over 6 million total.

Say the clause was 20% of anything Burnley got. Thats 1.6 million. Takes us to 4.6 million. .........

Original point was "in milestone and sell on". Maths all good but missed any milestone payouts - number of appearances, goals, assists. Might have knocked the number up a bit? Just a guess though.

MWHIBBIES
02-01-2022, 11:32 AM
Original point was "in milestone and sell on". Maths all good but missed any milestone payouts - number of appearances, goals, assists. Might have knocked the number up a bit? Just a guess though.

Yes, absolutely could be the case. Although those deals would all have been with Burnley and he was only there for 1 season. So things like 10 league goals, or 50 league games, we wouldn't have got them.

I'd say that Fletcher is most likely our highest fee in total. Followed by Brown and then McGinn.

BSEJVT
02-01-2022, 12:16 PM
I think this is a really interesting window.

There are widely acknowledged shortcomings in the construction of the squad and Mathie paid the price for the last transfer window.

We have also recruited a new manager who despite his protestations to the contrary will want to have some of his choices in the squad so he can play the way he wants.

I think the level of investments and to a lesser extent movement in the squad will give us a really good idea of RG's intentions.

Fully expect that it is not a great window to do things in, but there is a huge prize up for grabs that is well within reach over the next 6 months and I will be really interested to see what happens here.

Forza Fred
02-01-2022, 12:16 PM
Agreed, I think this is a classic case of Hertz propaganda.

Trust me, I wish Atkinson had signed for anybody BUT hearts.

The guy played a few months ago in the Olympics against Spain and Argentina and shone against players from the likes of Barcelona and Real Madrid.

As to why he hasn't played for the full international side...well he was out injured for a bit, and you would have to ask Arnie too, but no doubt whatsoever that he will.

Forza Fred
02-01-2022, 12:19 PM
I’m not going to get to worried about them signing a couple of Aussies 1 is a needless chicken that just runs about daft and the other I’ve not seen and suspect you’ve not seen much of either and especially enough to say he will then move on for a super fee.

I’d also rather we are looking to develop our own players and sell them on for a few quid, that seems to have dried up over Tyne and illustrated by lack of game time for young players and also their players called up to respective age groups at international level.

I've seen a fair bit of him, locally and in under 23 internationals,

i stand by what I said.

No doubt you said Änge Who!?'' too.

Since90+2
02-01-2022, 12:22 PM
I've seen a fair bit of him, locally and in under 23 internationals,

i stand by what I said.

No doubt you said Änge Who!?'' too.

Has Ange done that well? 6 points behind a Rangers side nowhere near last season's levels and papped out the Europa League and into the conference league, whilst Rangers qualified out their group. And that's what them losing their manager to Villa.

He's done ok, but given the squad and finances they have I don't think he's done anymore more than that.

SMAXXA
02-01-2022, 01:05 PM
I've seen a fair bit of him, locally and in under 23 internationals,

i stand by what I said.

No doubt you said Änge Who!?'' too.

Time will tell but wouldn’t go wetting my pants being worried about hearts business over them 2.

I don’t care or have an opinion on Ange getting the job I’m a Hibs fan.

Onceinawhile
02-01-2022, 01:07 PM
Time will tell but wouldn’t go wetting my pants being worried about hearts business over them 2.

I don’t care or have an opinion on Ange getting the job I’m a Hibs fan.

I think his point is that as someone living in Australia, he probably has a better handle on the quality of players coming from that part of the world and is more likely to be able to judge them?

Ronniekirk
02-01-2022, 01:08 PM
Hearts had a right back to cover Smith but doesn't get a game and then bring the Australian lad in

Clearly don’t rate him so bringing in someone they hope is better
One of the benefits of having a benefactor and large monthly payments from fan base But they are very wasteful when it come to recruitment


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Unseen work
02-01-2022, 01:30 PM
Rumours gathering about McGrath to Aberdeen.

Albeit not sure how reliable one of/the main sources on Twitter is.

brog
02-01-2022, 01:32 PM
Original point was "in milestone and sell on". Maths all good but missed any milestone payouts - number of appearances, goals, assists. Might have knocked the number up a bit? Just a guess though.

That's pretty much correct Dave. My info is obviously quite historic & I don't think we went into great detail at the time. I was told however that original fee reported included some soft milestone targets and that we had an excellent sell on agreement with Burnley.

04Sauzee
02-01-2022, 01:36 PM
Rumours gathering about McGrath to Aberdeen.

Albeit not sure how reliable one of/the main sources on Twitter is.

Seems to be gathering pace that rumour and Mugabi to Aberdeen mentioned on socials.

Since452
02-01-2022, 01:37 PM
I’m getting worried about Hearts.

They appear to be taking an unconservative approach to where they find players.

Not just Glasgow, Edinburgh or Fife these days.

They have signed 2 Aussies who I’m told were recommended to Hibs prior to Hearts getting them, and one of them..Atkinson will result in a super fee when he moves on.

We still seem to stick to traditional markets…although Mueller’s signing is maybe a taste of things to come.

If they were recommended to Hibs and we said no then I'm delighted they've gone to Hearts. Obviously we don't think they're good enough.

Dmas
02-01-2022, 01:38 PM
McGrath has apparently now signed a pre contract with someone. Sheep were definitely interested as were a few English clubs.

Middlesbrough

Libby Hibby
02-01-2022, 02:04 PM
Rumours gathering about McGrath to Aberdeen.

Albeit not sure how reliable one of/the main sources on Twitter is.

I think McGrath will head south…Mugabe is an own goal if he is available and signs for a rival imo

Aldo
02-01-2022, 02:12 PM
I think McGrath will head south…Mugabe is an own goal if he is available and signs for a rival imo

Not sure what type of CH he is however he may not suit our style of play or what SM is trying to achieve?? ie play out from the back??


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Crab apple
02-01-2022, 02:21 PM
Possibility of David Marshall as player/goalkeeping coach in this window or more likely in the summer.

Libby Hibby
02-01-2022, 02:21 PM
Possibility of David Marshall as player/goalkeeping coach in this window or more likely in the summer.

What a signing that would be.

Unseen work
02-01-2022, 02:25 PM
Possibility of David Marshall as player/goalkeeping coach in this window or more likely in the summer.

You heard something?

Would be a fantastic signing never mind as a coach. Plenty of years left in him too.

I’m sure I read he was desperate to leave derby in January for games so hopefully it would be now.

Would be a shame as I actually rate Macey, other than his kicking.

Stuart93
02-01-2022, 02:26 PM
Seems to be gathering pace that rumour and Mugabi to Aberdeen mentioned on socials.

Have nae idea how aberdeen can continue to sign and sign. Their squad must be massive.

Crab apple
02-01-2022, 02:30 PM
You heard something?

Would be a fantastic signing never mind as a coach. Plenty of years left in him too.

I’m sure I read he was desperate to leave derby in January for games so hopefully it would be now.

Would be a shame as I actually rate Macey, other than his kicking.

Wee mention in the Sunday Times today. Not sure what the position is with Craig Samson. I think JR only brought him in last summer.

GreenCastle
02-01-2022, 02:44 PM
Was David Marshall not supposed to be heading back to Celtic ?

He hasn’t played a game for Derby since August 1st.

Shinnie contract is up in June I think and has been one of Derby’s best players recently but will probably have other clubs after him with more money.

dchibs
02-01-2022, 02:44 PM
Anybody know if we are still interested in Stuart Findley.

Callum_62
02-01-2022, 02:52 PM
Early days in the Maloney reign but I wouldn't mind seeing 1 or 2 come in over the next 10 days to allow to settle in before our first match

Obviously we have Tait and Mueller joining which will add some more depth to the squad

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Billy Whizz
02-01-2022, 03:05 PM
Possibility of David Marshall as player/goalkeeping coach in this window or more likely in the summer.

Not sure what Marshall’s career aspirations are just now, but think we’re light in the goalkeeping front. Kevin should go out on loan and we need someone to compete with Macey to be No 1
Not sure Marshall can do 2 jobs, but you’d have thought Samson will move on wherever Ross ends up

1620
02-01-2022, 03:06 PM
Anybody know if we are still interested in Stuart Findley.

Don’t know but Sunday Post says we are considering a loan move for Toby Sibbick.

gbhibby
02-01-2022, 03:12 PM
Don’t know but Sunday Post says we are considering a loan move for Toby Sibbick.
Was that the guy who Hearts had on loan?

Billy Whizz
02-01-2022, 03:14 PM
Was that the guy who Hearts had on loan?

It was, why didn’t he stay with them?

04Sauzee
02-01-2022, 03:14 PM
Don’t know but Sunday Post says we are considering a loan move for Toby Sibbick.

Funnily enough I brought his name up yesterday as we had failed to get him in under Ross. Young boy , tall, quick, athletic, can play RB, RCB. Can't get a game in a struggling Barnsley team though.

ekhibee
02-01-2022, 03:15 PM
Yes, absolutely could be the case. Although those deals would all have been with Burnley and he was only there for 1 season. So things like 10 league goals, or 50 league games, we wouldn't have got them.

I'd say that Fletcher is most likely our highest fee in total. Followed by Brown and then McGinn.

Thomson must be up there as well, and possibly Whittaker (although he was less than the others I think). What did we get for O'Connor?

hibbysam
02-01-2022, 03:19 PM
Thomson must be up there as well, and possibly Whittaker (although he was less than the others I think). What did we get for O'Connor?

£2m Thomson and Whittaker, £1.6m for GOC IIRC.

Unseen work
02-01-2022, 03:22 PM
Is Sibbick not out of contract in the summer? Surely be a permanent?

So the times are saying we’re after Marshall and Sibbick? But no other outlet are saying this and nothing on social media.

Odd one but let’s hope it’s true, would be two very good signings.

The 90+2
02-01-2022, 03:24 PM
It was, why didn’t he stay with them?

He got injured, they got relegated, Our Daniel went back to the Priory, he went back to the bigger club in the Championship.

Good player with a very good attitude by all accounts. :agree:

ekhibee
02-01-2022, 03:25 PM
£2m Thomson and Whittaker, £1.6m for GOC IIRC.

Cool. I actually thought we got more than that for Thomson mind you.

04Sauzee
02-01-2022, 03:28 PM
He got injured, they got relegated, Our Daniel went back to the Priory, he went back to the bigger club in the Championship.

Good player with a very good attitude by all accounts. :agree:

Pretty sure he was ill for a while as well? Glandular fever or something which limited his game time.

Since452
02-01-2022, 03:34 PM
The Sibbick rumour comes up every season now.

The 90+2
02-01-2022, 03:39 PM
Pretty sure he was ill for a while as well? Glandular fever or something which limited his game time.

:agree:

Unseen work
02-01-2022, 03:45 PM
A hearts fan just mentioned to me we’ve offered a pre contact for Sibbick too.

May be something in it after all.

Or could be him/hearts forums are jumping on what was in the paper.

Edit: Find the pre contract hard to believe as his contract isn’t up until 2023. 2 plus 2 = 5 springs to mind.

bingo70
02-01-2022, 03:50 PM
I see Kei Kennedy has been recalled from his loan at Dunfermline and is being sent somewhere else on loan instead.

I know he’s not had a great time at Dunfermline but think he’s really highly rated is he not?

Maybe not too dissimilar to Ewan Henderson.

Hibiza
02-01-2022, 04:14 PM
Anybody know if we are still interested in Stuart Findley.

" Oh Docktir Findlay , Ah think I've a touch eh the heartburn " , " away an Dinny be silly Janet an get yet teat oot eh ma porridge " . - soz

C_hendo04
02-01-2022, 04:27 PM
A couple of the latest rumours going around

Jamie McGrath - Hibs
Brandon Barker - Aberdeen
Xavi Simons - Rangers
Stuart Findlay - Hearts
Matty Kennedy - St Johnstone
Tony Watt - Dundee Utd
Jamie Walker - Dundee Utd

badabing67
02-01-2022, 04:31 PM
Have nae idea how aberdeen can continue to sign and sign. Their squad must be massive.

Think they will sell Hedges to Blackburn and if they sign Mcgrath it might be they are expecting to move Ferguson as well.

JimBHibees
02-01-2022, 04:37 PM
A couple of the latest rumours going around

Jamie McGrath - Hibs
Brandon Barker - Aberdeen
Xavi Simons - Rangers
Stuart Findlay - Hearts
Matty Kennedy - St Johnstone
Tony Watt - Dundee Utd
Jamie Walker - Dundee Utd

Source for any of this.

Pete70
02-01-2022, 04:44 PM
Watt to Dundee Utd isn't a rumour according to the BBC last week.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59796062

Unseen work
02-01-2022, 05:12 PM
This is the real disadvantage we’re at with replacing Ross when we did.

Start I’d December, lots of players lined up and I imagine

McGrath
Mugabi
Watt

Would have been at the top of his list. Now Maloney needs to reassess the whole squad and potential targets and see if they’re an improvement and suit his style.

McGrath going to Aberdeen would be a huge blow imo. Very good player who will go on to better things.

Hopefully Maloney makes quick decisions and gets the players he wants.

Callum_62
02-01-2022, 05:24 PM
The clean slate chat is standard

I'm almost certain maloney would know by now where we need added quality

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bingo70
02-01-2022, 05:27 PM
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/spfl-transfer-news-live-rangers-22591449

Bit of a nothing story but Connor Mcgrandles another name being mentioned as a possibility.

Since452
02-01-2022, 05:28 PM
Not been overly impressed with McGrath when we've played them. Neat and tidy midfielder is how I'd describe him. Nothing outstanding about him. Obviously has something about him if there are a queue of clubs interested.

Unseen work
02-01-2022, 05:44 PM
The clean slate chat is standard

I'm almost certain maloney would know by now where we need added quality

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I thought the same until he started Drey Wright.

Think he will give people as much a chance as he can unless they come to him in January asking to leave.

Unseen work
02-01-2022, 05:45 PM
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/spfl-transfer-news-live-rangers-22591449

Bit of a nothing story but Connor Mcgrandles another name being mentioned as a possibility.

Been linked with him the past 2 windows.

Not sure if he’s any decent mind you. From small clips I’ve seen he has no pace.

Iggy Pope
02-01-2022, 05:46 PM
This is the real disadvantage we’re at with replacing Ross when we did.

Start I’d December, lots of players lined up and I imagine

McGrath
Mugabi
Watt

Would have been at the top of his list. Now Maloney needs to reassess the whole squad and potential targets and see if they’re an improvement and suit his style.

McGrath going to Aberdeen would be a huge blow imo. Very good player who will go on to better things.

Hopefully Maloney makes quick decisions and gets the players he wants.

I was a bit ambivalent about Jack Ross getting punted but if Tony Watt was top of his list then I’m really hoping I get less ambivalent about Shaun Maloney.

Hibiza
02-01-2022, 05:59 PM
Sunday Post reporting Tony Sibbick , rather sign " Oor Wullie" .

Shrekko
02-01-2022, 06:10 PM
Sunday Post reporting Tony Sibbick , rather sign " Oor Wullie" .

Can you give us a quick critique of Sibbick’s game just to add a bit of depth to your opinion?

Real Emerald
02-01-2022, 06:15 PM
Sunday Post reporting Tony Sibbick , rather sign " Oor Wullie" .

I actually thought he was a decent player who was also big and good in the air. Someone like that would add to the team. IMHO

RMQ1967
02-01-2022, 06:16 PM
Can you give us a quick critique of Sibbick’s game just to add a bit of depth to your opinion?

I didn't see much of Sibbick but from the litte I did see I i was concerned that they had a pretty decent player in the team. Looked strong, athletic & could obviously play a bit. I'd be delighted to get him.

Since452
02-01-2022, 06:18 PM
I'd be happy with Sibbick based on what I saw of him at Hearts.

04Sauzee
02-01-2022, 06:22 PM
EXCLUSIVE! Nathan Patterson close to Rangers exit with Everton in advanced transfer talks over Ibrox star | @ScottBurns75

https://t.co/P9AoRVyieS https://t.co/e3Z430UWFu

hibeerealist
02-01-2022, 06:26 PM
I'd be happy with Sibbick based on what I saw of him at Hearts.

Yes he looked a very decent player

S4uzee
02-01-2022, 06:30 PM
Yes he looked a very decent player

Wiki claims he played 2 games for Hearts. He’s also barely played for Barnsley who are struggling in the championship

Iggy Pope
02-01-2022, 06:34 PM
I'd be happy with Sibbick based on what I saw of him at Hearts.


Yes he looked a very decent player


Wiki claims he played 2 games for Hearts. He’s also barely played for Barnsley who are struggling in the championship

Interesting. Any more?

gbhibby
02-01-2022, 06:35 PM
Sunday Post reporting Tony Sibbick , rather sign " Oor Wullie" .
Our Wullie Bieslas love child.

hibbysam
02-01-2022, 06:48 PM
EXCLUSIVE! Nathan Patterson close to Rangers exit with Everton in advanced transfer talks over Ibrox star | @ScottBurns75

https://t.co/P9AoRVyieS https://t.co/e3Z430UWFu

Great move for all parties that. He’s likely to play far more which can only be good from a Scotland POV.

18Craig75
02-01-2022, 06:51 PM
EXCLUSIVE! Nathan Patterson close to Rangers exit with Everton in advanced transfer talks over Ibrox star | @ScottBurns75

https://t.co/P9AoRVyieS https://t.co/e3Z430UWFu

Surely he won’t go straight into the Everton team (possibly even squad). Would there be any chance of taking him on an immediate loan? Probably not.

hibbysam
02-01-2022, 06:56 PM
Surely he won’t go straight into the Everton team (possibly even squad). Would there be any chance of taking him on an immediate loan? Probably not.

Jonjoe Kenny currently starts for them and he was brutal at Celtic. Coleman is 33 also.

Stuart93
02-01-2022, 07:13 PM
EXCLUSIVE! Nathan Patterson close to Rangers exit with Everton in advanced transfer talks over Ibrox star | @ScottBurns75

https://t.co/P9AoRVyieS https://t.co/e3Z430UWFu

Sky sports quoting the deal could be worth up to £16m. Unreal.

And people think we were asking to much in the summer for Doig?

HUTCHYHIBBY
02-01-2022, 07:17 PM
EXCLUSIVE! Nathan Patterson close to Rangers exit with Everton in advanced transfer talks over Ibrox star | @ScottBurns75

https://t.co/P9AoRVyieS https://t.co/e3Z430UWFu

Unbelievably £12m & £4m in add ons according to SSN!

MWHIBBIES
02-01-2022, 07:20 PM
Sky sports quoting the deal could be worth up to £16m. Unreal.

And people think we were asking to much in the summer for Doig?

Yep. Few bad games and folk saying we should've let him go for pennies :faf:

Doig has had more good games than Patterson has had games. Absolutely mental price at any level.

Since90+2
02-01-2022, 07:20 PM
Sky sports quoting the deal could be worth up to £16m. Unreal.

And people think we were asking to much in the summer for Doig?

Paterson is a whole different level to Doig. Quality player.

Scorrie
02-01-2022, 07:21 PM
Surely he won’t go straight into the Everton team (possibly even squad). Would there be any chance of taking him on an immediate loan? Probably not.

I think he would start. Everton are brutal at the moment. Paterson has done well for Scotland so I could see him getting into their first team

greenginger
02-01-2022, 07:22 PM
Unbelievably £12m & £4m in add ons according to SSN!

Will that be enough to cover the latest Mike Ashley bill and expenses :greengrin

jacomo
02-01-2022, 07:25 PM
Great move for all parties that. He’s likely to play far more which can only be good from a Scotland POV.


If you were Sevco you’d want to sell Tavenier and keep Patterson for a couple more seasons wouldn’t you?

jacomo
02-01-2022, 07:27 PM
I think he would start. Everton are brutal at the moment. Paterson has done well for Scotland so I could see him getting into their first team


He’s got Coleman ahead of him in the team and he’s a good player but getting on a bit. He will get games for sure.

Unseen work
02-01-2022, 07:28 PM
I think Doig is actually a lot more solid this season.

I know Stevenson may look better defensively as he wins more slide tackles etc but for me Doig rarely needs to dive in as he either pins the opposition back or wins the ball back with his pace. He’s completely dominated some of the better singers in the country.

One thing for me he needs to improve on is his passing and playing on the ball.

If he adds some goals to his game bigger teams will really take notice.

Stuart93
02-01-2022, 07:28 PM
Paterson is a whole different level to Doig. Quality player.

Maybe the way Doig’s played this season but not the form he was in last year.

He’s not £12m better.

Billy Whizz
02-01-2022, 07:31 PM
If you were Sevco you’d want to sell Tavenier and keep Patterson for a couple more seasons wouldn’t you?

They need the money urgently

SteveHFC
02-01-2022, 07:32 PM
Sky sports quoting the deal could be worth up to £16m. Unreal.

And people think we were asking to much in the summer for Doig?

Patterson will go far in the game. Great news for Scotland going forward.

04Sauzee
02-01-2022, 07:32 PM
If you were Sevco you’d want to sell Tavenier and keep Patterson for a couple more seasons wouldn’t you?

That would definitely seem sensible.

bingo70
02-01-2022, 07:35 PM
https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1477739904293556230?s=21

Gogic going abroad apparently.

GreenCastle
02-01-2022, 07:39 PM
That would definitely seem sensible.

Huns need the ££

Over the last few years they have spent a fortune in transfer fees and hardly brought any fees in at all.

Even £11 + million won’t cover the transfer fees they have spent in recent times.

A Hi-Bee
02-01-2022, 07:39 PM
https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1477739904293556230?s=21

Gogic going abroad apparently.

Good luck to him, in his position I would be heading for someplace warmer that pays more, no brainer really.

:thumbsup:

CmoantheHibs
02-01-2022, 07:42 PM
I think Doig is actually a lot more solid this season.

I know Stevenson may look better defensively as he wins more slide tackles etc but for me Doig rarely needs to dive in as he either pins the opposition back or wins the ball back with his pace. He’s completely dominated some of the better singers in the country.

One thing for me he needs to improve on is his passing and playing on the ball.

If he adds some goals to his game bigger teams will really take notice.

To be fair I would probably do well playing against Amy MacDonald too:greengrin

Iggy Pope
02-01-2022, 07:44 PM
I think Doig is actually a lot more solid this season.

I know Stevenson may look better defensively as he wins more slide tackles etc but for me Doig rarely needs to dive in as he either pins the opposition back or wins the ball back with his pace. He’s completely dominated some of the better singers in the country.

One thing for me he needs to improve on is his passing and playing on the ball.

If he adds some goals to his game bigger teams will really take notice.

If he adds better tackling, passing and ball retention allied to building up some strength to his stamina and pace then bigger teams will take notice.