Winter 2021-22 transfer thread

[brog]

I find myself shaking my head at some of the comments about Nisbet. One said we'll be lucky to recoup our money, I'll take that bet every day of the week. Others saying we can let him go now we have competition for his place, what competition? James Scott? An untried Norwegian lad or an unfit Doidge? Or possibly Boyle who may be away soon. Nisbet has been a regular in Scotland squads throughout last year & now has 10 caps so Clarke rates him as does Maloney based on his comments after the game. Would I like to see him put himself about more, hold the ball up better & most importantly finish better?, of course I would. All strikers have streaky spells where they go from barren to productive & vice versa. I expect to see KN back & scoring regularly shortly, after going 1 game, at Celtic Park, without scoring! I doubt he's going anywhere right now & he really is by a long way, our 1st choice striker at present.

[MrRobot]

I find myself shaking my head at some of the comments about Nisbet. One said we'll be lucky to recoup our money, I'll take that bet every day of the week. Others saying we can let him go now we have competition for his place, what competition? James Scott? An untried Norwegian lad or an unfit Doidge? Or possibly Boyle who may be away soon. Nisbet has been a regular in Scotland squads throughout last year & now has 10 caps so Clarke rates him as does Maloney based on his comments after the game. Would I like to see him put himself about more, hold the ball up better & most importantly finish better?, of course I would. All strikers have streaky spells where they go from barren to productive & vice versa. I expect to see KN back & scoring regularly shortly, after going 1 game, at Celtic Park, without scoring! I doubt he's going anywhere right now & he really is by a long way, our 1st choice striker at present.

This whole backing nisbet to turn a corner shortly has been ongoing for around a year now and like me, a lot of other fans have finally lost patience with him.

If his attitude was that of Doidge’s, who stuck in and kept giving his all when things weren’t going well for him, i’m sure he’d have our backing still, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

[The 90+2]

This whole backing nisbet to turn a corner shortly has been ongoing for around a year now and like me, a lot of other fans have finally lost patience with him.

If his attitude was that of Doidge’s, who stuck in and kept giving his all when things weren’t going well for him, i’m sure he’d have our backing still, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

He scored in the game before Parkhead.

People forget he came from the league below and exceeded expectations. People also forget how young he is and lost his dad a year back.

The amount of abuse he gets is absolutely mental imo.

[Northernhibee]

I find myself shaking my head at some of the comments about Nisbet. One said we'll be lucky to recoup our money, I'll take that bet every day of the week. Others saying we can let him go now we have competition for his place, what competition? James Scott? An untried Norwegian lad or an unfit Doidge? Or possibly Boyle who may be away soon. Nisbet has been a regular in Scotland squads throughout last year & now has 10 caps so Clarke rates him as does Maloney based on his comments after the game. Would I like to see him put himself about more, hold the ball up better & most importantly finish better?, of course I would. All strikers have streaky spells where they go from barren to productive & vice versa. I expect to see KN back & scoring regularly shortly, after going 1 game, at Celtic Park, without scoring! I doubt he's going anywhere right now & he really is by a long way, our 1st choice striker at present.

I’d take literally any one of those options over a lazy Kevin Nisbet right now.

[Steven79]

He scored in the game before Parkhead.

People forget he came from the league below and exceeded expectations. People also forget how young he is and lost his dad a year back.

The amount of abuse he gets is absolutely mental imo.

Him wanting to leave after barely being here 6 months then when he didn't get to leave started to play rubbish didn't do him any favours...

[The 90+2]

Him wanting to leave after barely being here 6 months then when he didn't get to leave started to play rubbish didn't do him any favours...

He was off form before bids came in for him (his dad passed away) I don't think for one minute think it was purposely.

[Steven79]

He was off form before bids came in for him (his dad passed away) I don't think for one minute think it was purposely.

I didn't say it was but it's now been over a year and nothing has improved.

[The 90+2]

I didn't say it was but it's now been over a year and nothing has improved.

Maybe he just isn't as good as people thought then? He seems shot of confidence and form. Everyone getting on his back every single game doesn't help. He clearly isn't suited to be a lone striker with very little support and although it was a sitter he still go himself in the right position last in on two or three times.

There was interest in Doig in Jan last year and the summer too. He's been worse than Nisbet this season yet I don't see him being hounded. Maybe his head was turned also?

[Northernhibee]

Maybe he just isn't as good as people thought then? He seems shot of confidence and form. Everyone getting on his back every single game doesn't help. He clearly isn't suited to be a lone striker with very little support and although it was a sitter he still go himself in the right position last in on two or three times.

There was interest in Doig in Jan last year and the summer too. He's been worse than Nisbet this season yet I don't see him being hounded. Maybe his head was turned also?

Doig has been nowhere close to being as dreadful as Nisbet. He’s not been as good as last season but to suggest Nisbet has had a better season is wild.

[truehibernian]

Doig has been nowhere close to being as dreadful as Nisbet. He’s not been as good as last season but to suggest Nisbet has had a better season is wild.

I agree - look what’s in front of Doig ? People criticise the lad but he gets forward and often has no creative player to feed off or a central player to pick him out when he’s free in the attacking third. He then has to track back a lot. Maloney wants to use the whole pitch and Doig will benefit when we’ve have creative dynamic players in the middle area. At presents he’s caught in two minds as in think innately he’s an attack minded player.

[ancient hibee]

I think Ross and Maloney have committed the cardinal sin of coaches and decided on a system and then try to fit players into it whether or not they’re suited. Doidge is probably a better single striker than Nisbet but I think that it’s pretty clear that the team benefits when they’re both playing and Boyle is wide on the right.Seems perverse not to try it given how many goals they scored.

[Northernhibee]

I agree - look what’s in front of Doig ? People criticise the lad but he gets forward and often has no creative player to feed off or a central player to pick him out when he’s free in the attacking third. He then has to track back a lot. Maloney wants to use the whole pitch and Doig will benefit when we’ve have creative dynamic players in the middle area. At presents he’s caught in two minds as in think innately he’s an attack minded player.
That’s the key difference though - Doig had a sticky start to the season but hasn’t stopped busting a gut to get through the other side of it. He made it much more likely to regain his form and as such he made it.

Nisbet isn’t good enough to be a lazy player. He needs to learn that quick otherwise he’s going to realise this too late. That ‘effort’ just before half time was absolutely unforgivable.

I defend players on a bad run of form for as long as they visibly are doing everything they can. I’ve not seen that from Nisbet in ages. I’m really pissed off with him now.

[Hibiza]

I find myself shaking my head at some of the comments about Nisbet. One said we'll be lucky to recoup our money, I'll take that bet every day of the week. Others saying we can let him go now we have competition for his place, what competition? James Scott? An untried Norwegian lad or an unfit Doidge? Or possibly Boyle who may be away soon. Nisbet has been a regular in Scotland squads throughout last year & now has 10 caps so Clarke rates him as does Maloney based on his comments after the game. Would I like to see him put himself about more, hold the ball up better & most importantly finish better?, of course I would. All strikers have streaky spells where they go from barren to productive & vice versa. I expect to see KN back & scoring regularly shortly, after going 1 game, at Celtic Park, without scoring! I doubt he's going anywhere right now & he really is by a long way, our 1st choice striker at present.

14 months of dross from him. Do you think he'll be in the next Scotland squad ?

[bingo70]

I think if Nisbet was being lazy it would show up in the stats that I’m sure the management will study.

I think he needs dropped but I also think he’s struggling for confidence big time just now which is effecting his performances.

Hopefully he turns it round soon.

[The 90+2]

Doig has been nowhere close to being as dreadful as Nisbet. He’s not been as good as last season but to suggest Nisbet has had a better season is wild.

Both have been as poor as each other and we look a better team, all season when Lewis plays. Yet Doig gets no stick at all and Nisbet is the devil.

[The 90+2]

That’s the key difference though - Doig had a sticky start to the season but hasn’t stopped busting a gut to get through the other side of it. He made it much more likely to regain his form and as such he made it.

Nisbet isn’t good enough to be a lazy player. He needs to learn that quick otherwise he’s going to realise this too late. That ‘effort’ just before half time was absolutely unforgivable.

I defend players on a bad run of form for as long as they visibly are doing everything they can. I’ve not seen that from Nisbet in ages. I’m really pissed off with him now.

Doig was being targeted and ruined last night for instance, does that happen to someone with all this potential that many think he has? Yet nobody ever criticizes, just excuses made.

[BoomtownHibees]

Both have been as poor as each other and we look a better team, all season when Lewis plays. Yet Doig gets no stick at all and Nisbet is the devil.

We looked a lot better the last 2 games with Doig playing out on the left of midfield in a 343/3421

[The 90+2]

I think Ross and Maloney have committed the cardinal sin of coaches and decided on a system and then try to fit players into it whether or not they’re suited. Doidge is probably a better single striker than Nisbet but I think that it’s pretty clear that the team benefits when they’re both playing and Boyle is wide on the right.Seems perverse not to try it given how many goals they scored.

Based on last night I can't see the system changing under Maloney, and fair enough if thats how he truly believes will be best for us. The courage in that alone gets my backing just now. lets hope every single signing from now on has that in mind. Rocky in a back 3 looks very good loan to begin with.

[The 90+2]

We looked a lot better the last 2 games with Doig playing out on the left of midfield in a 343/3421

And Maloney said Nisbet was probably our best player against Dundee Utd. Yet both have piss poor games last night and only one gets hounded.

[BoomtownHibees]

And Maloney said Nisbet was probably our best player against Dundee Utd. Yet both have piss poor games last night and only one gets hounded.

I think there’s a perception, rightly or wrongly, that Nisbet is lazy and when he’s not playing well, that is amplified. The same can’t be said for the likes of Doig

[brog]

I’d take literally any one of those options over a lazy Kevin Nisbet right now.

You would take James Scott over Nisbet? Wow!

[The 90+2]

You would take James Scott over Nisbet? Wow!

It's just an example of over the top criticism the laddies getting. How it will help also I'll never know.

[brog]

14 months of dross from him. Do you think he'll be in the next Scotland squad ?

Well given you say there's been 14 months of dross from him and yet all his caps have been gained in that period, then i think the answer is probably 'yes'! Alternatively maybe your opinion is wrong.

[truehibernian]

Doig was being targeted and ruined last night for instance, does that happen to someone with all this potential that many think he has? Yet nobody ever criticizes, just excuses made.

He doesn’t come up against top international players every week, it’s how he’ll learn. You have to cut him slack given his age and inexperience and he’ll learn from it each and every time he comes up against that kind of talent.

A bit like Nisbet - he’s stepped up leagues and you have to give him some slack, both are learning the game.

Got to get behind the young players and expect inconsistency at their age.

[The 90+2]

He doesn’t come up against top international players every week, it’s how he’ll learn. You have to cut him slack given his age and inexperience and he’ll learn from it each and every time he comes up against that kind of talent.

A bit like Nisbet - he’s stepped up leagues and you have to give him some slack, both are learning the game.

Got to get behind the young players and expect inconsistency at their age.

Sorry, I know it seems I'm picking out Doig for this but I;m only mentioning him because he was subject to bids last year/in the summer too and his form has also dipped big time (if he was ever as good as some said) yet Nisbet is being slaughtered with nobody saying anything at all about JD.

I would say both are in the same boat. Both deserve our backing and support.

[brog]

Sorry, I know it seems I'm picking out Doig for this but I;m only mentioning him because he was subject to bids last year/in the summer too and his form has also dipped big time (if he was ever as good as some said) yet Nisbet is being slaughtered with nobody saying anything at all about JD.

I would say both are in the same boat. Both deserve our backing and support.

Agreed 100%!

[CapitalGreen]

Unlikely to be coming to us anymore but McGrath not in the St Mirren squad tonight.

[Brightside]

There is nothing poor about Doig, and Niz isn’t lazy (he’s just not scoring goals)

[JamesHFC]

Unlikely to be coming to us anymore but McGrath not in the St Mirren squad tonight.

Aberdeen bound apparently.

[badabing67]

Unlikely to be coming to us anymore but McGrath not in the St Mirren squad tonight.

I agree he is unlikely to come to us, a real p@ss#r that, I think he is exactly what we need in our midfield tbh

[HoboHarry]

Aberdeen bound apparently.
Not what the BBC were reporting earlier. Said they had pulled the plug as he wasn't showing enough desire to move to Aberdeen.

[J-C]

There is nothing poor about Doig, and Niz isn’t lazy (he’s just not scoring goals)


Agree about Doig, he's still young and learning but take the green specs off mate, Nisbet is a very lazy sour puss faced player, hasn't kicked a ball since his transfer request was thrown out last January.

[JamesHFC]

Not what the BBC were reporting earlier. Said they had pulled the plug as he wasn't showing enough desire to move to Aberdeen.

Fair enough I didn’t see that. Just saw a few mentions of it earlier in the window.

Swap deal for Allan still a possibility? Jim Goodwin was at Celtic Park last night.

[Coco Bryce]

There is nothing poor about Doig, and Niz isn’t lazy (he’s just not scoring goals)

Unfortunately his job is to score goals.

[CapitalGreen]

Fair enough I didn’t see that. Just saw a few mentions of it earlier in the window.

Swap deal for Allan still a possibility? Jim Goodwin was at Celtic Park last night.

He’s a massive Celtic fan.

[Winston Ingram]

Well given you say there's been 14 months of dross from him and yet all his caps have been gained in that period, then i think the answer is probably 'yes'! Alternatively maybe your opinion is wrong.

He got in the Scotland squad because Scotland’s striking options are diabolical and to further emphasise how bad the alternatives were, he wasn’t even getting a game for us at that time.

To further emphasise how pish Scotland’s striker options were at that time, Calum Paterson came off the bench in the previous 2 internationals v Israel and Serbia to play up front. It was him or Lawrence Shankland. It was truly bottom of the barrel stuff.

[JimBHibees]

I think Ross and Maloney have committed the cardinal sin of coaches and decided on a system and then try to fit players into it whether or not they’re suited. Doidge is probably a better single striker than Nisbet but I think that it’s pretty clear that the team benefits when they’re both playing and Boyle is wide on the right.Seems perverse not to try it given how many goals they scored.

Maloney has been in charge of three yes three games.

[bigwheel]

Maloney has been in charge of three yes three games.

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[gegs70]

Nisbet plays better up front with doidge. He kind of leapt from Dunfermline player to Hibs and Scotland player. He is struggling to find his form and just needs a wee bit support, encouragement and goals that he mi****s or taps over the line. I want him to succeed... Either way it is a benefit to Hibs money or goals.

[Unseen work]

Regan Charles Cook scored his 8th goal of the season last night.

Out of contract in the summer.

[Since90+2]

I'm not sure we can still say Nisbet's poor performance are down to a lack of form. He's played pretty poorly for over a year now.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but that combined £5 million or so we reportedly got offered for him and Doig looks a terrible decision to turn down. We can thank Mathie for that.

[Unseen work]

Brandon Barker looks to be leaving rangers..

Done well when he was on loan at Oxford https://youtu.be/7x46rcWwGIA

[Winston Ingram]

Nisbet plays better up front with doidge. He kind of leapt from Dunfermline player to Hibs and Scotland player. He is struggling to find his form and just needs a wee bit support, encouragement and goals that he mi****s or taps over the line. I want him to succeed... Either way it is a benefit to Hibs money or goals.

This one is trotted out a lot. So in essence, he’s not good enough to perform the duties of a modern day centre forward so we need to restructure our team to play another one with him to cover his deficiencies.

The problem with that is you rarely see good attacking sides these days playing with a front 2. I cannot think of any off the top of my head.

The other aspect with that is if he can’t play through the middle on his own, we’ve got f all chance of getting big money for him. Again, I can’t think of any top level centre forwards who need a partner.

[Jones28]

Regan Charles Cook scored his 8th goal of the season last night.

Out of contract in the summer.

I’d have him in a heart beat.

[Unseen work]

I'm not sure we can still say Nisbet's poor performance are down to a lack of form. He's played pretty poorly for over a year now.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but that combined £5 million or so we reportedly got offered for him and Doig looks a terrible decision to turn down. We can thank Mathie for that.

There’s something really not right with Nisbet for me. When he joined he worked like an absolute dog, chased down defenders and made something out of a nothing ball.

https://youtu.be/RJxyBeUEBNY That’s his first 6 months where he got a lot of praise, to me he looks a lot leaner there.

I think before he was in a rush to make up for lost time and had a desire and hunger to get to the top. Since not getting his move last January it looks like he’s not working towards anything and he’s chucked it.

Half the time he doesn’t look interested now.

I actually see he deleted his Instagram too so I do hope he’s alright, maybe having difficulty dealing with the stick. What I will say though is I don’t think his attitude helps the stick he gets. Not trying, huffing if things don’t go his way etc. As bad a miss as it was against Celtic I think fans somewhat accept that if he was doing the basics well.

[Nicho87]

Melkerson could be up to 29th Jan waiting on permit

Mad

[Greenio]

There’s something really not right with Nisbet for me. When he joined he worked like an absolute dog, chased down defenders and made something out of a nothing ball.

https://youtu.be/RJxyBeUEBNY That’s his first 6 months where he got a lot of praise, to me he looks a lot leaner there.

I think before he was in a rush to make up for lost time and had a desire and hunger to get to the top. Since not getting his move last January it looks like he’s not working towards anything and he’s chucked it.

Half the time he doesn’t look interested now.

I actually see he deleted his Instagram too so I do hope he’s alright, maybe having difficulty dealing with the stick. What I will say though is I don’t think his attitude helps the stick he gets. Not trying, huffing if things don’t go his way etc. As bad a miss as it was against Celtic I think fans somewhat accept that if he was doing the basics well.

Folk should lay off

Who knows what he's going through.

[Squealing pig]

Regan Charles Cook scored his 8th goal of the season last night.

Out of contract in the summer.

Take him before he’s snapped up with sheep or hearts

[JimBHibees]

Folk should lay off

Who knows what he's going through.

Yes people need to give him a break. Still offer the team alot with his ability.

[Dmas]

There’s something really not right with Nisbet for me. When he joined he worked like an absolute dog, chased down defenders and made something out of a nothing ball.

https://youtu.be/RJxyBeUEBNY That’s his first 6 months where he got a lot of praise, to me he looks a lot leaner there.

I think before he was in a rush to make up for lost time and had a desire and hunger to get to the top. Since not getting his move last January it looks like he’s not working towards anything and he’s chucked it.

Half the time he doesn’t look interested now.

I actually see he deleted his Instagram too so I do hope he’s alright, maybe having difficulty dealing with the stick. What I will say though is I don’t think his attitude helps the stick he gets. Not trying, huffing if things don’t go his way etc. As bad a miss as it was against Celtic I think fans somewhat accept that if he was doing the basics well.

The transfer offer last year and the Scotland involvement for me, has gone to his head massively, he’s went from a guy popping up right place right time in the box to dropping deep into midfield trying to play football but actually giving nothing for midfielders to hit up front or other forward players to play into spaces afforded by another guy occupying defenders (big reason we rely on Boyles running so much too)

He’s maybe been told this by the last coaching team I don’t know but he needs to shake it and get back to doing what he was doing so well which is why we bought him, why Birmingham wanted him and the reason Steve Clarke called him up.

[Since90+2]

Folk should lay off

Who knows what he's going through.

So we should never be critical of any players performance as we have no idea what they're going through?

He's not playing well. It comes with the territory of being a professional footballer that people will comment on that.

[Northernhibee]

You would take James Scott over Nisbet? Wow!

Well, yeah. Just now I would. Nisbet up front isn’t working and we all know the definition of insanity. By all accounts he’s been impressing in training and we should maybe give him the chance to show his early season performances were down to his recovery from injury and a lack of sharpness. He looked good against Dundee at Dens so there could well be a player in there.

Hopefully that reasoning isn’t “over the top”.

[Libby Hibby]

Folk should lay off

Who knows what he's going through.

Disagree, he’s playing week in / week out so performances are there to be judged / commented on.

If he is going through a hypothetical something , then the club will be aware and should protect him by not playing him if this hypothetical something is affecting his performances.

[superfurryhibby]

I hope Nisbet finds some form soon and and rams the gash comments on here down the doubters throats.

[Tarrahib]

I hope Nisbet finds some form soon and and rams the gash comments on here down the doubters throats.
Yes.Starting tomorrow night.

[blackpoolhibs]

Yes people need to give him a break. Still offer the team alot with his ability.

Enlighten me please, what quality is this that he's offering a lot of? :confused:

[Greenworld]

There’s something really not right with Nisbet for me. When he joined he worked like an absolute dog, chased down defenders and made something out of a nothing ball.

https://youtu.be/RJxyBeUEBNY That’s his first 6 months where he got a lot of praise, to me he looks a lot leaner there.

I think before he was in a rush to make up for lost time and had a desire and hunger to get to the top. Since not getting his move last January it looks like he’s not working towards anything and he’s chucked it.

Half the time he doesn’t look interested now.

I actually see he deleted his Instagram too so I do hope he’s alright, maybe having difficulty dealing with the stick. What I will say though is I don’t think his attitude helps the stick he gets. Not trying, huffing if things don’t go his way etc. As bad a miss as it was against Celtic I think fans somewhat accept that if he was doing the basics well.What I dont get is why doidge is not being played in place of him at the moment.
The player picks ie the ones that jack Ross had all but emptied is baffling also.
We sign a american who does not even get on the pitch ? What's happening there.
I've got to assume that he is genuinely giving everyone a chance.



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[JimBHibees]

Enlighten me please, what quality is this that he's offering a lot of? :confused:

Not saying for one minute he has been great but still think he is as likely as anyone to score.

[Jones28]

Nisbet needs a run of goals and solid performances, the way the winter break fell was probably the worst timing for him as he was starting to score goals and find a bit of form.

I feel sorry for the lad after the year plus that he's had: it can't be easy to lose a parent at that age and who knows how that's affected him.

I sincerely hope he can find his way out of this rut and get back to his best.

The comments about "should have taken the money" etc etc aren't very helpful, whats done is done and theres no way back. Having said that maybe the best thing for Nisbet would be to move on, as long as we get back the money we paid for him. It might be best for all involved.

[Dmas]

What I dont get is why doidge is not being played in place of him at the moment.
The player picks ie the ones that jack Ross had all but emptied is baffling also.
We sign a american who does not even get on the pitch ? What's happening there.
I've got to assume that he is genuinely giving everyone a chance.



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Doidge and muller aren’t fit, Simple as that, everyone was told muellar wasn’t upto speed prior to the game and we are all aware how long doidge has been out crazy that it’s came as such a surprise to folk he didn’t Chuck them in on Monday

[Billy Whizz]

Doidge and muller aren’t fit, Simple as that, everyone was told muellar wasn’t upto speed prior to the game and we are all aware how long doidge has been out crazy that it’s came as such a surprise to folk he didn’t Chuck them in on Monday

Why is Mueller not up to speed?
The American guy rangers signed, joined them last week and played last night for them

[Hibernian Verse]

Why is Mueller not up to speed?
The American guy rangers signed, joined them last week and played last night for them

And got a 4/10 from Ibroxnews.com who said;

"It was a debut to forget for Sands, who was chasing shadows in the Rangers midfield. Aberdeen dominated large spells of that game and that was because they won the midfield battle. Van Bronckhorst should have subbed off his new signing, who had a shocker."

Maybe he wasn't fit enough to be chucked in either. Additionally, they only had Lundstrum on the bench capable of stepping in. We had other options rather than risking Mueller too early off the back of a league season.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Why is Mueller not up to speed?
The American guy rangers signed, joined them last week and played last night for them

Why is Doidge not up to speed? He's been involved in squads and getting game time for almost 2 months now. If neither are fit why have them in a squad at all? Waste of a space on the bench.

[Hibernian Verse]

Why is Doidge not up to speed? He's been involved in squads and getting game time for almost 2 months now. If neither are fit why have them in a squad at all? Waste of a space on the bench.

Doidge has had a total of around 30 minutes since November.

[04Sauzee]

Why is Mueller not up to speed?
The American guy rangers signed, joined them last week and played last night for them

Sands last played 11th December
Mueller last played 24th November, previously to that he played 31st October.

It's a mixture of how long since the Orlando season finished and how many minutes he played in the weeks up to their season finishing.

[zitelli62]

Take him before he’s snapped up with sheep or hearts

Great wee player not afraid to take a man on and a real menace for defenders every time I see him I'm impressed.

[Hibbyradge]

I'm not sure we can still say Nisbet's poor performance are down to a lack of form. He's played pretty poorly for over a year now.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but that combined £5 million or so we reportedly got offered for him and Doig looks a terrible decision to turn down. We can thank Mathie for that.

We weren't offered £5m for him otherwise we'd have bitten their hands off.

I think it was £2m.

[blackpoolhibs]

Not saying for one minute he has been great but still think he is as likely as anyone to score.

I dont see it myself, all i see is someone who's not putting a shift in, not holding the ball up, missing lots of decent chances and just not playing football at the required standard for Hibs.

And it's been going on too long now.

[flash]

Why is Doidge not up to speed? He's been involved in squads and getting game time for almost 2 months now. If neither are fit why have them in a squad at all? Waste of a space on the bench.

Because he has had a horrific injury that takes a long time, if ever, to get fully over. Mueller also had a wee strain which meant he missed a bit of training. Calm down all you Mr Angrys' out there.

[CapitalGreen]

Why is Mueller not up to speed?
The American guy rangers signed, joined them last week and played last night for them

Did you watch the American guy play for Rangers last night? He was definitely not up to speed yet and contributed to them losing the midfield battle.

[Hibbyradge]

I dont see it myself, all i see is someone who's not putting a shift in, not holding the ball up, missing lots of decent chances and just not playing football at the required standard for Hibs.

And it's been going on too long now.

I agree, but I'm hanging on to the hope that the old maxim, "He needs a goal and his confidence will return", is proved correct.

[blackpoolhibs]

I agree, but I'm hanging on to the hope that the old maxim, "He needs a goal and his confidence will return", is proved correct.

It's all we've had for a while, but with Doidge back, and Mueller and the Norwegian signed, hopefully we dont have to just rely on hope for much longer, and he can have a think about how he's going to go on in the future sitting on his erse in the dugout.

[The Modfather]

I agree, but I'm hanging on to the hope that the old maxim, "He needs a goal and his confidence will return", is proved correct.

I know they are different profiles of players, one was signed for a fee the other brought in as a squad player. However are, for example, Drey Wright and Nisbet judged to the same standards of what they are doing on the park? Wright has gotten praise for being solid and doing the basics well. Nisbet seems to get a far higher level of scrutiny of his performance from the same games. Is it simply that strikers are judged on goals and it’s harder playing up front to “just” be solid and do the basics well?

[Winston Ingram]

Yes people need to give him a break. Still offer the team alot with his ability.

What ability is this? When the ball is played into him with someone in contact with him he loses it.

His work rate is appalling and his movement is non-existent.

[number9dream]

Regan Charles Cook scored his 8th goal of the season last night.

Out of contract in the summer.

Would be decent pre-contract business if/when Murphy & Wright move on.

[Blaster]

I dont see it myself, all i see is someone who's not putting a shift in, not holding the ball up, missing lots of decent chances and just not playing football at the required standard for Hibs.

And it's been going on too long now.

I agree with you in the main. I think there were genuine reasons initially. Personal reasons, Covid, playing when carrying a knock as no other option. But expect him to be able to do the basics now.

I’d start him tomorrow and hopefully gets going again. If not then a wee spell as sub

[Billy Whizz]

Did you watch the American guy play for Rangers last night? He was definitely not up to speed yet and contributed to them losing the midfield battle.

I didn’t, I just heard he was playing
04Sauzee, gave the reason above

[SlickShoes]

I know they are different profiles of players, one was signed for a fee the other brought in as a squad player. However are, for example, Drey Wright and Nisbet judged to the same standards of what they are doing on the park? Wright has gotten praise for being solid and doing the basics well. Nisbet seems to get a far higher level of scrutiny of his performance from the same games. Is it simply that strikers are judged on goals and it’s harder playing up front to “just” be solid and do the basics well?

The difference here is the bar for Drey Wright is basically at the floor, he has offered almost nothing to us since signing, so when he does the basics it's a good thing.

Nisbet scored a lot of goals initially and is picked for Scotland so the bar for him is higher, I wouldn't even say he is doing the basics well and hasn't for a year, so when he does make a good pass after holding up the ball people praise him even though it only happens about once every 3 games. Let's not even get into scoring goals.

[Since90+2]

We weren't offered £5m for him otherwise we'd have bitten their hands off.

I think it was £2m.

Doig and Nisbet combined.

[CMac1988]

I know they are different profiles of players, one was signed for a fee the other brought in as a squad player. However are, for example, Drey Wright and Nisbet judged to the same standards of what they are doing on the park? Wright has gotten praise for being solid and doing the basics well. Nisbet seems to get a far higher level of scrutiny of his performance from the same games. Is it simply that strikers are judged on goals and it’s harder playing up front to “just” be solid and do the basics well?

I wouldn't say that's the case. Wright has been heavily criticised in the past for his performances. Right now he's back in the team and as you said doing the basics right. Nisbet isn't. You can look past the lack of goals if you could see the effort and willingness to find one or bring others in to play. He isn't showing that. I wanted him off at half time the other night and think he needs a spell on the bench. Celtic or not he never done anywhere near enough. Pointed it out at the time but it was telling when Rocky had a go at him for making no attempt to try and win a clearance from Macey that landed about 5 yards from him. When the new guy is having a go then that tells you all you need to know.

[hibsbollah]

Kolasinac released by Arsenal, joins Marseille. there seems to be some regular Arsenal watchers on here, did anyone have a view on him? I saw him play a couple of times when he first arrived and he looked very good, i think on the left of a back 3.

[J-C]

I agree, but I'm hanging on to the hope that the old maxim, "He needs a goal and his confidence will return", is proved correct.

He got a goal against Dundee United and is still shi te.

[Hibernian Verse]

He got a goal against Dundee United and is still shi te.

This is just a general observation but you're very negative :greengrin

[BlackSheep]

I know they are different profiles of players, one was signed for a fee the other brought in as a squad player. However are, for example, Drey Wright and Nisbet judged to the same standards of what they are doing on the park? Wright has gotten praise for being solid and doing the basics well. Nisbet seems to get a far higher level of scrutiny of his performance from the same games. Is it simply that strikers are judged on goals and it’s harder playing up front to “just” be solid and do the basics well?

Nisbet isot doing the basics well at all right now though, his first touch at times leaves a lot to be desired, his passing back to the midfield is more often than not inaccurate and surely sticking that ball in the net against Celtic is basic...?


He got a goal against Dundee United and is still shi te.

I have been feeling the same too, just a goal and he will get back to his best, but he has had goals recently, not consistently but he has scored a few and still he hasn't lifted his efforts.

[Brightside]

What ability is this? When the ball is played into him with someone in contact with him he loses it.

His work rate is appalling and his movement is non-existent.

If his work rate was appalling he wouldn’t be playing.

[Libby Hibby]

I hope Nisbet finds some form soon and and rams the gash comments on here down the doubters throats.

So do we all

[Stanton Spence]

If his work rate was appalling he wouldn’t be playing.He's been getting away with a below average work rate imo because of our lack of options to play up front
I really hope he turns it around but I just can't see it

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[Billy Whizz]

He's been getting away with a below average work rate imo because of our lack of options to play up front
I really hope he turns it around but I just can't see it

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How do we know this, surely the club will have the stats on how much he’s run, if he wasn’t doing his shift, he wouldn’t play the next game

[04Sauzee]

How do we know this, surely the club will have the stats on how much he’s run, if he wasn’t doing his shift, he wouldn’t play the next game

Exactly there is some incredible nonsense spoken on here. Some of it by me btw 😁

[JimBHibees]

I dont see it myself, all i see is someone who's not putting a shift in, not holding the ball up, missing lots of decent chances and just not playing football at the required standard for Hibs.

And it's been going on too long now.

Not really disagreeing with a lot of that live in hope though. Thought he was decent v United not that long ago.

[Stanton Spence]

How do we know this, surely the club will have the stats on how much he’s run, if he wasn’t doing his shift, he wouldn’t play the next gameI'm not going by training Billy and maybe should have said that bud , I'm going by what I see on the park hence I put imo after saying his work rate looks below average. His whole body language looks like he's hating being on the park at times


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[JimBHibees]

What ability is this? When the ball is played into him with someone in contact with him he loses it.

His work rate is appalling and his movement is non-existent.

Think some of his link play is good and also movement on occasion. Not in great form that is for sure.

[Stanton Spence]

Exactly there is some incredible nonsense spoken on here. Some of it by me btw [emoji16]I don't think it's nonsense to say that Nisbet has looked short on effort and movement mate. Sometimes it looks like he would rather be anywhere else bar the park
I'm not going to keep rattling on about him as it's clear he's got talent and struggling with confidence etc but I stand by him needing dropped etc

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[Highwayman]

Regan Charles Cook scored his 8th goal of the season last night.

Out of contract in the summer.

I’ve been impressed by what I’ve seen of Charles Cook. so far.

Also wondered what he could achieve playing with better quality players.

If Hibs have an interest in him they’d better move fast as I would consider there will be more than a few clubs after him.

[offshorehibby]

I’ve been impressed by what I’ve seen of Charles Cook. so far.

Also wondered what he could achieve playing with better quality players.

If Hibs have an interest in him they’d better move fast as I would consider there will be more than a few clubs after him.

That's my thoughts as well. I'd like to think we are at least looking into the possibility of a pre contract before he's snapped up by somebody else.

[Brightside]

How do we know this, surely the club will have the stats on how much he’s run, if he wasn’t doing his shift, he wouldn’t play the next game

Spot on Billy. Christ we even have the stats at youth football now - you quickly know if a player isnt putting it in. There have been plenty other options if the staff didnt think he was trying.

[04Sauzee]

Celtic closing In on another midfielder

Matt O'Riley heads for Celtic medical ahead of MK Dons star completing expected transfer

https://t.co/BaKdGwlDcJ https://t.co/kxUFPD3URu

[Winston Ingram]

Think some of his link play is good and also movement on occasion. Not in great form that is for sure.

I think his link play is good when he's not got a defender up his jacksy but that's a very rare occurrence in top-level football. Even more rare if the opposition know that

[Winston Ingram]

If his work rate was appalling he wouldn’t be playing.

He's not doing anything well and he's still playing.

[Hibiza]

I hope Nisbet finds some form soon and and rams the gash comments on here down the doubters throats.

" How soon is now " - The Smiths. Not 14 months

[nickwhibs]

I’ve been impressed by what I’ve seen of Charles Cook. so far.

Also wondered what he could achieve playing with better quality players.

If Hibs have an interest in him they’d better move fast as I would consider there will be more than a few clubs after him.

Definitely. He has plenty of energy (something we are really lacking)

[007]

Why is Mueller not up to speed?
The American guy rangers signed, joined them last week and played last night for them

Mueller has not long finished a full season in the MLS and was told to rest after it. It is now effectively pre-season for him and he is therefore probably still getting up to speed. We wouldn't give players just a couple of weeks of training and 60 minutes in a bounce game and expect that to be enough for them to be ready to play at Parkhead 1st game of the season.

Just look at Kyogo at Celtic, he has been playing since Feb 2021 without a break and has recently been in and out with injuries having come back, probably too early, against us in the cup final and then aggravating his hamstring injury a week later v St Johnstone. We need to carefully manage Mueller's introduction to the team so the same doesn't happen to him.

[superfurryhibby]

He's not doing anything well and he's still playing.

Why is that?

[Winston Ingram]

Why is that?

Mixture of things i think.

Technically, his first touch and hold-up play has never been particularly good but I think it's mainly down to attitude.

People are saying his confidence is low, which it probably is but you don't need confidence to work hard.

[jacomo]

Mueller has not long finished a full season in the MLS and was told to rest after it. It is now effectively pre-season for him and he is therefore probably still getting up to speed. We wouldn't give players just a couple of weeks of training and 60 minutes in a bounce game and expect that to be enough for them to be ready to play at Parkhead 1st game of the season.

Just look at Kyogo at Celtic, he has been playing since Feb 2021 without a break and has recently been in and out with injuries having come back, probably too early, against us in the cup final and then aggravating his hamstring injury a week later v St Johnstone. We need to carefully manage Mueller's introduction to the team so the same doesn't happen to him.


Good point.

[brog]

I'm not sure we can still say Nisbet's poor performance are down to a lack of form. He's played pretty poorly for over a year now.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but that combined £5 million or so we reportedly got offered for him and Doig looks a terrible decision to turn down. We can thank Mathie for that.

Our new Manager pretty much said Nisbet won us the game at Tannadice. That was 2 games ago. We may end up genuinely thanking Mathie, if indeed it was him, for turning down £5m, again, if it was that sum.

[Stanton Spence]

Our new Manager pretty much said Nisbet won us the game at Tannadice. That was 2 games ago. We may end up genuinely thanking Mathie, if indeed it was him, for turning down £5m, again, if it was that sum.I think the £5m quoted was for both Doig and Nisbet combined, not a chance we would turn down £5m for anyone on our books

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[Since90+2]

Our new Manager pretty much said Nisbet won us the game at Tannadice. That was 2 games ago. We may end up genuinely thanking Mathie, if indeed it was him, for turning down £5m, again, if it was that sum.

Nisbet's value has plummeted since that offer was made. We'd be lucky to get offered half of what we did back then.

[Since90+2]

I think the £5m quoted was for both Doig and Nisbet combined, not a chance we would turn down £5m for anyone on our books

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Of course we wouldn't. Even the suggestion we would knock back £5 million for Nisbet is ludicrous.

[Dazzjw1875]

I would be very surprised if were not still in the market for more new faces. Also expecting 3-4 outgoings also.

[brog]

I think the £5m quoted was for both Doig and Nisbet combined, not a chance we would turn down £5m for anyone on our books

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Yes, I know, it was shown on prior post. Apologies for not making it clear.

[Brightside]

Mixture of things i think.

Technically, his first touch and hold-up play has never been particularly good but I think it's mainly down to attitude.

People are saying his confidence is low, which it probably is but you don't need confidence to work hard.

But our coaching staff must disagree with all that. Especially the attitude or he would be dropped. Otherwise you are saying that the staff dont care about his "poor attitude".

[brog]

Nisbet's value has plummeted since that offer was made. We'd be lucky to get offered half of what we did back then.

That's good, it means he won't be going anywhere and he has a great incentive to improve his form.

[brog]

Of course we wouldn't. Even the suggestion we would knock back £5 million for Nisbet is ludicrous.

I didn't make that suggestion. I responded to your post where you quoted £5m for Nisbet and Doig combined. The 2 posts need to be read together.

[Since90+2]

That's good, it means he won't be going anywhere and he has a great incentive to improve his form.

It's good his value has plummeted?

[Winston Ingram]

That's good, it means he won't be going anywhere and he has a great incentive to improve his form.

He'll be back on loan at Dunfermline by July if he carries on at this rate.

[Lago]

That's good, it means he won't be going anywhere and he has a great incentive to improve his form.
Personally I feel a bit sorry for the boy and I really feel he'll come good in the not too distant future.

[Winston Ingram]

But our coaching staff must disagree with all that. Especially the attitude or he would be dropped. Otherwise you are saying that the staff dont care about his "poor attitude".

Must they? They were sacked and his car crash form had a major hand in that.

Our current coaching staff have only been in 3 games and I'm sure they have now seen enough to do something about it.

[Stanton Spence]

Yes, I know, it was shown on prior post. Apologies for not making it clear.[emoji1303] No probs bud

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[Smartie]

Personally I feel a bit sorry for the boy and I really feel he'll come good in the not too distant future.

I feel sorry for him in so much as it can’t be easy or pleasant to play through this loss of form with the glare of the public on you.

That sympathy is limited though, as I don’t think he does everything he can to help himself.

The striker role in this team is an important one. A lack of alternatives for the out of form Nisbet probably contributed as much as anything else to Jack Ross getting the bullet. The new coaching team will soon have alternatives - I’d be very surprised if Nisbet keeps his place for long if he doesn’t buck his ideas up big time.

He’s been a glaring weakness in our team for nearly a year.

[Sioux]

I'm not getting this 'loss of form'.

It's more likely that this is his default level. A player can't simply be off from for a whole year or more.

There is no evidence whatsoever of the prediction "he will come good, only needs a goal".

That miss against Celtic seems to point some crazy idea that KN holds himself up as a gifted footballer, the way he attempted to score with the outside of his foot. I can think of no other striker who would have done anything like that.

Even a centre half would have just blasted it over the line, from what, 3 yards out?

Further back up for the default level is his continual one trick pony attempt at passing the ball into the net ala Mo Salah, but allowing the keeper to make an easy save, or missing the target completely.

Maybe we were fooled by his record in the 'we're no very good' leagues. And KN is in the 'he's no very good' class.

[04Sauzee]

St Johnstone have made a bid for Allan Forrest of Livingston hoping to get him in this window as his contract expires in the summer.

[Brightside]

Must they? They were sacked and his car crash form had a major hand in that.

Our current coaching staff have only been in 3 games and I'm sure they have now seen enough to do something about it.

Lets see. Going with your thoughts on it they will have him on the transfer list now.

[JimBHibees]

Lets see. Going with your thoughts on it they will have him on the transfer list now.

Incredible that his form has been so bad he retains a place in a decent international squad.

[Brightside]

Incredible that his form has been so bad he retains a place in a decent international squad.

Its amazing really. All these coaches must be blind. :confused:

[Winston Ingram]

Lets see. Going with your thoughts on it they will have him on the transfer list now.

I'm not sure they will as they'll know no one is coming in with an offer.

[Winston Ingram]

Incredible that his form has been so bad he retains a place in a decent international squad.

Yep. Feverishly holding back the brutal competition from Eamon Brophy and Calum Paterson

[Unseen work]

Away from all the Kevin Nisbet chat

Really hope we’re still actively looking to strengthen the squad with some real quality that instantly improves the starting 11.

Also hoping a couple are moved on.

An interesting one for me is Hallberg, I think Maloney could be a fan of him.

[Winston Ingram]

I'm not getting this 'loss of form'.

It's more likely that this is his default level. A player can't simply be off from for a whole year or more.

There is no evidence whatsoever of the prediction "he will come good, only needs a goal".

That miss against Celtic seems to point some crazy idea that KN holds himself up as a gifted footballer, the way he attempted to score with the outside of his foot. I can think of no other striker who would have done anything like that.

Even a centre half would have just blasted it over the line, from what, 3 yards out?

Further back up for the default level is his continual one trick pony attempt at passing the ball into the net ala Mo Salah, but allowing the keeper to make an easy save, or missing the target completely.

Maybe we were fooled by his record in the 'we're no very good' leagues. And KN is in the 'he's no very good' class.

He's had 4 decent months and 12 bad months.

[JimBHibees]

Yep. Feverishly holding back the brutal competition from Eamon Brophy and Calum Paterson

Lol he really has shat in your chips at one point

[brog]

Incredible that his form has been so bad he retains a place in a decent international squad.

Not just retains, he was first picked 10 months ago (& been a regular ever since)despite several on here telling us he's been minging for at least a year!

[JimBHibees]

Not just retains, he was first picked 10 months ago (& been a regular ever since)despite several on here telling us he's been minging for at least a year!

Yep some of the critique has been ridiculous

[brog]

It's good his value has plummeted?

Firstly, it's only your opinion his value has plummeted. Given he became a full internationalist after the Brum bid I'm not sure it has. Secondly. KN's contract has more than 2 years to run. A return to goalscoring form would help us on the pitch, increase his chances of a big move & see his value increase, a win/win/win.

[MWHIBBIES]

Shame the way Nisbet is being spoken about. Nowhere near as bad as folk are making out imo.

[SlickShoes]

Yep some of the critique has been ridiculous

While I agree, he's hardly been turning in performances that you would think would lead to being in the national team.

He got in at the right time as part of a tight knit squad that now knows how to win. He got there initially on merit, but since then his performances for hibs have not been great. I want him to do well because we saw him score some great goals, but he doesn't seem capable of getting back to that level for whatever reason.

He must be great in training because Clarke likes him, Ross liked him, and Maloney hasn't dropped him yet, so he has something we arent seeing.

7 goals in 28 games isn't a great return, with a record like that in this league I don't think if he played for another team people would be falling over themselves to sign him.

[Winston Ingram]

Lol he really has shat in your chips at one point

Yeah that’s it🙄

[500miles]

He's had 4 decent months and 12 bad months.

Tony Watt has had 4 decent months in a decade and folk want to sign him.

[Hibiza]

I'm not getting this 'loss of form'.

It's more likely that this is his default level. A player can't simply be off from for a whole year or more.

There is no evidence whatsoever of the prediction "he will come good, only needs a goal".

That miss against Celtic seems to point some crazy idea that KN holds himself up as a gifted footballer, the way he attempted to score with the outside of his foot. I can think of no other striker who would have done anything like that.

Even a centre half would have just blasted it over the line, from what, 3 yards out?

Further back up for the default level is his continual one trick pony attempt at passing the ball into the net ala Mo Salah, but allowing the keeper to make an easy save, or missing the target completely.

Maybe we were fooled by his record in the 'we're no very good' leagues. And KN is in the 'he's no very good' class.

Spot on.

[007]

Tony Watt has had 4 decent months in a decade and folk want to sign him.

Eventually finds himself a club he seems ideally suited to then buggers off elsewhere at the first opportunity, for a bit more cash. Maybe if Motherwell hadn't offered every season ticket holder a free renewal, they might might have been able to keep Watt.

[007]

Shame the way Nisbet is being spoken about. Nowhere near as bad as folk are making out imo.

I put it down to the transfer request a year ago. Some folk cannot get over it, like a jilted lover. Do we know for sure that he actually put in a request? I only ever saw it in a "newspaper" which makes stuff up all the time to get clicks.

[blackpoolhibs]

I put it down to the transfer request a year ago. Some folk cannot get over it, like a jilted lover. Do we know for sure that he actually put in a request? I only ever saw it in a "newspaper" which makes stuff up all the time to get clicks.

I'm just puting it down to using my eyes, but maybe thats a little too way out there for some folk to understand.

[S4uzee]

I'm not getting this 'loss of form'.

It's more likely that this is his default level. A player can't simply be off from for a whole year or more.

There is no evidence whatsoever of the prediction "he will come good, only needs a goal".

That miss against Celtic seems to point some crazy idea that KN holds himself up as a gifted footballer, the way he attempted to score with the outside of his foot. I can think of no other striker who would have done anything like that.

Even a centre half would have just blasted it over the line, from what, 3 yards out?

Further back up for the default level is his continual one trick pony attempt at passing the ball into the net ala Mo Salah, but allowing the keeper to make an easy save, or missing the target completely.

Maybe we were fooled by his record in the 'we're no very good' leagues. And KN is in the 'he's no very good' class.
100% correct in everything you say.

His “attempt” was pathetic. Also on your point regarding passing it into the net, he never seems to strike a ball with the laces, very odd for a “striker”

[Winston Ingram]

Tony Watt has had 4 decent months in a decade and folk want to sign him.

…and?

[Winston Ingram]

I put it down to the transfer request a year ago. Some folk cannot get over it, like a jilted lover. Do we know for sure that he actually put in a request? I only ever saw it in a "newspaper" which makes stuff up all the time to get clicks.

So nothing to do his rank rotten form. Righto 👍🏻 🥴

[Since452]

100% correct in everything you say.

His “attempt” was pathetic. Also on your point regarding passing it into the net, he never seems to strike a ball with the laces, very odd for a “striker”

Agree. I really hope he isn't rewarded with a start tomorrow.

[flash]

Agree. I really hope he isn't rewarded with a start tomorrow.

Rewarded? What is wrong with people?

[J-C]

I'm not getting this 'loss of form'.

It's more likely that this is his default level. A player can't simply be off from for a whole year or more.

There is no evidence whatsoever of the prediction "he will come good, only needs a goal".

That miss against Celtic seems to point some crazy idea that KN holds himself up as a gifted footballer, the way he attempted to score with the outside of his foot. I can think of no other striker who would have done anything like that.

Even a centre half would have just blasted it over the line, from what, 3 yards out?

Further back up for the default level is his continual one trick pony attempt at passing the ball into the net ala Mo Salah, but allowing the keeper to make an easy save, or missing the target completely.

Maybe we were fooled by his record in the 'we're no very good' leagues. And KN is in the 'he's no very good' class.

It could just be that top Championship/bottom premiership is his level, he hit the ground running after getting his deal with us but since the death of his father and a couple of niggly injuries, he's regressed badly. I don't think he's a bad player but just not as good as a lot of people think he is, similar to Shankland and McNulty who struggled moving up to a higher level (McNulty's best form came playing in English Div1+2, good cameo for us but then struggled again)

[Hibees1973]

Hope Kevin Nisbet does not read these pages. If he does I expect he will understand that most of the posters talk a load of sh*te.

He's a striker at Hibs. Aye, he missed a sitter the other night and has not been anywhere near the form he was when he first signed but this is why he is at Hibs. If he was banging in over 20 goals every season, playing consistently well he would not be here.

It's just his turn to be the one who is getting targeted for abuse. Over the last few months it's been a choice of Hanlon, Porteous, Wright, Newell to name a few.

[RMQ1967]

Hope Kevin Nisbet does not read these pages. If he does I expect he will understand that most of the posters talk a load of sh*te.

He's a striker at Hibs. Aye, he missed a sitter the other night and has not been anywhere near the form he was when he first signed but this is why he is at Hibs. If he was banging in over 20 goals every season, playing consistently well he would not be here.

It's just his turn to be the one who is getting targeted for abuse. Over the last few months it's been a choice of Hanlon, Porteous, Wright, Newell to name a few.

Agreed. One of the issues is that we're creating so few chances for him & he's seeing so little of the ball that every mistake is magnified. Lucky if he gets half a dozen touches in a game & few of those he can do anything useful with.

[Lago]

Hope Kevin Nisbet does not read these pages. If he does I expect he will understand that most of the posters talk a load of sh*te.

He's a striker at Hibs. Aye, he missed a sitter the other night and has not been anywhere near the form he was when he first signed but this is why he is at Hibs. If he was banging in over 20 goals every season, playing consistently well he would not be here.

It's just his turn to be the one who is getting targeted for abuse. Over the last few months it's been a choice of Hanlon, Porteous, Wright, Newell to name a few.
Well said, as I said in an earlier post I feel sorry for the lad he doesn't deserve some of the stuff
That's being said about him.

[Tambo]

Cove Rangers have announced the signing of former Aberdeen, Motherwell, Sheffield Wednesday and Dundee United defender Mark Reynolds.

The 23-year-old has agreed an 18-month contract and – subject to clearance – will be in the squad for tomorrow night’s Scottish Cup fourth round tie with Hibernian at Easter Road.

[Vault Boy]

Cove Rangers have announced the signing of former Aberdeen, Motherwell, Sheffield Wednesday and Dundee United defender Mark Reynolds.

The 23-year-old has agreed an 18-month contract and – subject to clearance – will be in the squad for tomorrow night’s Scottish Cup fourth round tie with Hibernian at Easter Road.

A regular Benjamin Button

[Billy Whizz]

Cove Rangers have announced the signing of former Aberdeen, Motherwell, Sheffield Wednesday and Dundee United defender Mark Reynolds.

The 23-year-old has agreed an 18-month contract and – subject to clearance – will be in the squad for tomorrow night’s Scottish Cup fourth round tie with Hibernian at Easter Road.
He’s not played for United for a while, thought he was injured

[Steven79]

Cove Rangers have announced the signing of former Aberdeen, Motherwell, Sheffield Wednesday and Dundee United defender Mark Reynolds.

The 23-year-old has agreed an 18-month contract and – subject to clearance – will be in the squad for tomorrow night’s Scottish Cup fourth round tie with Hibernian at Easter Road.He's young for so many clubs [emoji102]

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[greenginger]

He's young for so many clubs [emoji102]

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He’s actually 34.

[Tambo]

He’s actually 34.

Just noticed that myself. Was a copy and paste from sky sports.

[WeeRussell]

Hope Kevin Nisbet does not read these pages. If he does I expect he will understand that most of the posters talk a load of sh*te.

He's a striker at Hibs. Aye, he missed a sitter the other night and has not been anywhere near the form he was when he first signed but this is why he is at Hibs. If he was banging in over 20 goals every season, playing consistently well he would not be here.

It's just his turn to be the one who is getting targeted for abuse. Over the last few months it's been a choice of Hanlon, Porteous, Wright, Newell to name a few.

👍

[HoboHarry]

Hope Kevin Nisbet does not read these pages. If he does I expect he will understand that most of the posters talk a load of sh*te.

He's a striker at Hibs. Aye, he missed a sitter the other night and has not been anywhere near the form he was when he first signed but this is why he is at Hibs. If he was banging in over 20 goals every season, playing consistently well he would not be here.

It's just his turn to be the one who is getting targeted for abuse. Over the last few months it's been a choice of Hanlon, Porteous, Wright, Newell to name a few.
Wee Lewis is probably thinking it was high time it was someone else's turn..... :greengrin

[Hibee Mac]

Wonder if we're looking at Charles-Cook, I've been impressed with him for a while now and that's another 2 goals and created the other one. Seems to be involved in a lot of goals and assists for them.

I don't watch them enough to know much about his weaknesses but must be attracting at least some interest.

[bod]

I wonder if other teams are looking at him too

[500miles]

Hope Kevin Nisbet does not read these pages. If he does I expect he will understand that most of the posters talk a load of sh*te.

He's a striker at Hibs. Aye, he missed a sitter the other night and has not been anywhere near the form he was when he first signed but this is why he is at Hibs. If he was banging in over 20 goals every season, playing consistently well he would not be here.

It's just his turn to be the one who is getting targeted for abuse. Over the last few months it's been a choice of Hanlon, Porteous, Wright, Newell to name a few.

I think he does. He has certainly deleted his social media, to the delight of some virgins in our support.

[tonyrougier123]

In the wake of all the focus and attention on Martin boyle and the life changing money supposedly on offer, I wonder if that’s partly the reason Nisbet can’t find the back of the net.

Maybe he thinks his big money move might not happen for him now,whilst I can’t stand a player who hands in a transfer request I still believe Kevin Nisbet has a lot to offer hibs.
He’s an international striker playing on the biggest stages,that is progress he made at Hibernian.
Birmingham whilst probably more money on offer than hibs don’t look like a side vying for glory.
My advice would be this to Kev.
Knuckle down give your all and start playing with a smile on your face.earn the respect of the supporters in the stand.and take a leaf out of boyles book and show your committed to our club.

Was Nisbet no offered or discussing a new deal?
I would like to see that signed and try and bring out the talent he obviously has again.

[Dazzjw1875]

In the wake of all the focus and attention on Martin boyle and the life changing money supposedly on offer, I wonder if that’s partly the reason Nisbet can’t find the back of the net.

Maybe he thinks his big money move might not happen for him now,whilst I can’t stand a player who hands in a transfer request I still believe Kevin Nisbet has a lot to offer hibs.
He’s an international striker playing on the biggest stages,that is progress he made at Hibernian.
Birmingham whilst probably more money on offer than hibs don’t look like a side vying for glory.
My advice would be this to Kev.
Knuckle down give your all and start playing with a smile on your face.earn the respect of the supporters in the stand.and take a leaf out of boyles book and show your committed to our club.

Was Nisbet no offered or discussing a new deal?
I would like to see that signed and try and bring out the talent he obviously has again.


He was offered a new deal on improved terms but KN knocked it back, was in one of the Hibs stories either yesterday or day before

[Hibee Mac]

In the wake of all the focus and attention on Martin boyle and the life changing money supposedly on offer, I wonder if that’s partly the reason Nisbet can’t find the back of the net.

Maybe he thinks his big money move might not happen for him now,whilst I can’t stand a player who hands in a transfer request I still believe Kevin Nisbet has a lot to offer hibs.
He’s an international striker playing on the biggest stages,that is progress he made at Hibernian.
Birmingham whilst probably more money on offer than hibs don’t look like a side vying for glory.
My advice would be this to Kev.
Knuckle down give your all and start playing with a smile on your face.earn the respect of the supporters in the stand.and take a leaf out of boyles book and show your committed to our club.

Was Nisbet no offered or discussing a new deal?
I would like to see that signed and try and bring out the talent he obviously has again.No chance I'd be offering him an improved deal again. If indeed he has rejected one then he's made his bed and he can lie in it.

If he knuckles down and improves his attitude on the park then the rest should follow and maybe he'll deserve an improved deal then. Or even the move out of Hibs that he was so desperate for before.

[blackpoolhibs]

He was offered a new deal on improved terms but KN knocked it back, was in one of the Hibs stories either yesterday or day before

I'd not be offering him a penny more, players need to be playing well to get a conttact extention with an increase.

He's been out of form way too long to even think about any increase, and it is looking like a bad move now by Hibs, when we rejected that bid by Birmingham.

[Winston Ingram]

He was offered a new deal on improved terms but KN knocked it back, was in one of the Hibs stories either yesterday or day before

Did he knock it back?

I know we were discussing a new deal with him but I just assumed we put the talks on hold when his form fell off a cliff.

[Brightside]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/kevin-nisbet-integral-to-hibs-success-says-shaun-maloney-as-he-throws-support-behind-striker-3534179?jj

Another coach just not seeing what many on here are seeing. Despite having so much data at his hands.

[blackpoolhibs]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/kevin-nisbet-integral-to-hibs-success-says-shaun-maloney-as-he-throws-support-behind-striker-3534179?jj

Another coach just not seeing what many on here are seeing. Despite having so much data at his hands.

Football manager backing his player, shocking news, would you prefer he was more like Lennon?

[superfurryhibby]

Football manager backing his player, shocking news, would you prefer he was more like Lennon?

What about a fan backing his team’s striker, shocking news, would you prefer he was more like Winston?

[bingo70]

Football manager backing his player, shocking news, would you prefer he was more like Lennon?

I agree with you and Brightside.

I think if he was being lazy, it would show up in his stats and he wouldn’t play. That said, Maloney has to back his player publicly, especially when he’s so new into the job, doesn’t really mean anything.

I just think the guys confidence is shot to pieces and would benefit from a spell out the team. I don’t think he’s not trying.

[Libby Hibby]

What about a fan backing his team’s striker, shocking news, would you prefer he was more like Winston?

Fans have backed him. Through the good and the bad. It’s crunch time for him. Start scoring and improve current performances or find himself on the bench for a period of time.

It really is that simple.

[blackpoolhibs]

What about a fan backing his team’s striker, shocking news, would you prefer he was more like Winston?

I'm pretty sure if you go back, you will see me and plenty others back him to the hilt. I'd love him to get back to the form he had, but at this moment and for quite a long time, in fact way too long, he's been pish.


I agree with you and Brightside.

I think if he was being lazy, it would show up in his stats and he wouldn’t play. That said, Maloney has to back his player publicly, especially when he’s so new into the job, doesn’t really mean anything.

I just think the guys confidence is shot to pieces and would benefit from a spell out the team. I don’t think he’s not trying.

He's been pish for months, lets not kid ourselves here, it's been way too long bar the odd glimpse. I've no idea if he's short of confidence, although the way he tried to score that tap in the other night would suggest otherwise.

I agree with you about him that he shouldnt be in the team right now, and we do seem to have more alternatives.

If that gets him back to form, great, but we need better now and he's not capable of that now.

[Brightside]

Football manager backing his player, shocking news, would you prefer he was more like Lennon?

We have fans on here questioning the boys commitment and attitude. There is not a chance he would be playing if that was true. The staff know a lot more about the players than anyone on here ever will.

[blackpoolhibs]

We have fans on here questioning the boys commitment and attitude. There is not a chance he would be playing if that was true. The staff know a lot more about the players than anyone on here ever will.

We've had nobody else, Doidge was injured, Mueller and Mekelson had not been signed, it was him or nobody.

You are right, the club do know more about the players than we will ever do, we only have our eyes, i suppose some folk's sight is better than others.:greengrin

[Brightside]

We've had nobody else, Doidge was injured, Mueller and Mekelson had not been signed, it was him or nobody.

You are right, the club do know more about the players than we will ever do, we only have our eyes, i suppose some folk's sight is better than others.:greengrin


We had other options. There are always other options.

I agree on your second point though. :greengrin

[superfurryhibby]

We have fans on here questioning the boys commitment and attitude. There is not a chance he would be playing if that was true. The staff know a lot more about the players than anyone on here ever will.

The not trying stuff is ridiculous. That undermines everything else any poster trotting it out has to say about Nisbet. Even if he was Messi, if a manager and teammates thought a player couldn’t be bothered, he just wouldn’t be playing.

I totally accept Nisbet has had a serious loss of form. I do also wonder if his first half season was a bit of a flash in the pan. It’s clear his confidence is shot and he’s out of sorts, a bit like the rest of the team tbh.

As a lone striker, Nisbet’s main opportunity to influence the game is crucial to the team’s fortunes, yet he also has less chance to bring that influence to bear in terms of frequency and opportunity on the ball. Your average striker is going have fewer touches as other players in the side.

The question for me is whether Nisbet’s initial goalscoring form was a freak and the past year is a true reflection of his standard? For a guy half through what is only his second season in top flight football, his record is very much one of two extremes.

I believe he is better than his current form, but his confidence has gone. The team itself have been misfiring for many months now too. Part of his issue lies in the wider malaise within the side.

Hopefully, with Doidge back and regaining fitness, after returning early from serious injury, and Melkersson and Mueller on board, we will see an upturn in Nisbet’s fortunes.

Either way, some of the stuff on here, it’s truly pathetic. No one is beyond criticism, but the not trying stuff, it’s nonsense.

[BlackSheep]

I agree with you and Brightside.

I think if he was being lazy, it would show up in his stats and he wouldn’t play. That said, Maloney has to back his player publicly, especially when he’s so new into the job, doesn’t really mean anything.

I just think the guys confidence is shot to pieces and would benefit from a spell out the team. I don’t think he’s not trying.

The thing is with Stats is they are sometimes subjective... for example, Nisbet may do a lot of running about, but that doesn't tell you if he sprinted for a pass or ran into the right positions.... there is something in his play in the past few months that shows a real lack of urgency, and this is what i think a lot of fans are noticing.... he doesn't bust a gut to get into the box at times, he tries too many fancy first time passes (which if they come off would be brilliant) and more often than not he makes a poor choice in his finishing, like trying to side foot it when he should be putting his laces through it or curling it round a keeper....

Personally i think its all in his head, once he gets a wee streak maybe we will see the Nisbet of old. I dont think we have seen quite the same lad since his dad passed away.

[brog]

Strikers are streaky. When Sam Cosgrove went to Dons I think he played about 15-20 games without scoring. Suddenly he was unstoppable. Last night, Greenwood, Rashford and Tonev all scored for 1st time in many games, that doesn't make them bad players. If Nisbet had scored with his early chance against Celtc, & he certainly should have, then that would have been 2 in 2. Coincidentally, Hibs TV are currently advertising Cove game by showing highlights of previous game. Have a look and spot Christian hitting the bar with a free header to an empty goal from a yard. These things happen to the best of players. One things for sure, no player gets better by being booed and encouragement can often help.

[SlickShoes]

He's not lazy, but I think maybe this is his level. Hopefully the new team can improve him, he must offer something in training that we do not see since he's still in the Scotland squad and basically undroppable at hibs despite putting in some seriously poor performances in the last year.

Occasionally he holds the ball up well and makes a fantastic pass, but there is little consistency, as most of the time when under pressure from a defender he will lose the ball even after taking a good first touch. He seems to have relied on this side foot placement shot a lot in the past and it feels like he is always looking for it, which is frustrating to watch sometimes, ironically if he had just side-footed the chance against Celtic he would have scored.

I am not a coach so don't know how to fix this, but what I see watching him once a week for the last year is someone who is mediocre at best in this league.

[SlickShoes]

Strikers are streaky. When Sam Cosgrove went to Dons I think he played about 15-20 games without scoring. Suddenly he was unstoppable. Last night, Greenwood, Rashford and Tonev all scored for 1st time in many games, that doesn't make them bad players. If Nisbet had scored with his early chance against Celtc, & he certainly should have, then that would have been 2 in 2. Coincidentally, Hibs TV are currently advertising Cove game by showing highlights of previous game. Have a look and spot Christian hitting the bar with a free header to an empty goal from a yard. These things happen to the best of players. One things for sure, no player gets better by being booed and encouragement can often help.

Nisbet has consistently played like he is playing for a year now, so I think it's fair he is seeing some criticism. Some people take it too far obviously because its hibs.net, some people here still hate Joe Newell because he had a bad first game.

[Coco Bryce]

I agree with you and Brightside.

I think if he was being lazy, it would show up in his stats and he wouldn’t play. That said, Maloney has to back his player publicly, especially when he’s so new into the job, doesn’t really mean anything.

I just think the guys confidence is shot to pieces and would benefit from a spell out the team. I don’t think he’s not trying.

Let's face reality here!

The only reason he has been playing the last 6 months is we didn't have anybody elase.

Now we have other options. I would imagine Nisbet will dully get a spell on the bench.

[J-C]

We had other options. There are always other options.

I agree on your second point though. :greengrin

The only other option was Gullan and Ross deemed not good enough except the odd 10 mins here and there. We went into the new season knowing we were a striker short, didn't even look at a loan signing to cover, instead we got an unfit winger and a no good CH on loan.

[Brightside]

The thing is with Stats is they are sometimes subjective... for example, Nisbet may do a lot of running about, but that doesn't tell you if he sprinted for a pass or ran into the right positions.... there is something in his play in the past few months that shows a real lack of urgency, and this is what i think a lot of fans are noticing.... he doesn't bust a gut to get into the box at times, he tries too many fancy first time passes (which if they come off would be brilliant) and more often than not he makes a poor choice in his finishing, like trying to side foot it when he should be putting his laces through it or curling it round a keeper....

Personally i think its all in his head, once he gets a wee streak maybe we will see the Nisbet of old. I dont think we have seen quite the same lad since his dad passed away.

I think you are under selling the data available to the coaches.... they dont just get how much running about he does. They do a huge amount of analysis on every player in every game. Its a full time job.

[Crab apple]

The only other option was Gullan and Ross deemed not good enough except the odd 10 mins here and there. We went into the new season knowing we were a striker short, didn't even look at a loan signing to cover, instead we got an unfit winger and a no good CH on loan.

That's pretty much it for me. That disastrous summer window hit us hard as many on here predicted it would at the time.

[BlackSheep]

I think you are under selling the data available to the coaches.... they dont just get how much running about he does. They do a huge amount of analysis on every player in every game. Its a full time job.

Yeah, that post did undersell a lot of the technical analysis but i guess was trying to simplify what i was getting at too.... Trust me i want Nisbet to get back to scoring and being happy, Im just not seeing the effort that some on here seem to be seeing.

[Unseen work]

Can we please start a new thread for Nisbet instead of filling his thread with chat about him.

[MrRobot]

Away from all the Kevin Nisbet chat

Really hope we’re still actively looking to strengthen the squad with some real quality that instantly improves the starting 11.

Also hoping a couple are moved on.

An interesting one for me is Hallberg, I think Maloney could be a fan of him.

I hope Hallberg gets a chance under Maloney, he’s a player i really like and has done well when given a chance. His performance in the semi final last year was class, was unfairly dropped for the final IMO

[blackpoolhibs]

I hope Hallberg gets a chance under Maloney, he’s a player i really like and has done well when given a chance. His performance in the semi final last year was class, was unfairly dropped for the final IMO
I'd like to see him instead of Newell, we need someone who will look forward from that position.

[Ronniekirk]

I'm pretty sure if you go back, you will see me and plenty others back him to the hilt. I'd love him to get back to the form he had, but at this moment and for quite a long time, in fact way too long, he's been pish.



He's been pish for months, lets not kid ourselves here, it's been way too long bar the odd glimpse. I've no idea if he's short of confidence, although the way he tried to score that tap in the other night would suggest otherwise.

I agree with you about him that he shouldnt be in the team right now, and we do seem to have more alternatives.

If that gets him back to form, great, but we need better now and he's not capable of that now.

Doidge hasn’t been getting played so it’s really only now with the new signings that there is more alternatives for Maloney
So will be interesting to see his team selections over next few weeks


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[brog]

Let's face reality here!

The only reason he has been playing the last 6 months is we didn't have anybody elase.

Now we have other options. I would imagine Nisbet will dully get a spell on the bench.

I keep asking, what other options? Doidge was available at start of season, Nisbet was 1st choice. Gullan and Scott were also available, they weren't considered. The young Norwegian is only new option we have & he's not available. I would be astonished if Nisbet doesn't remain #1 choice.

[LeithMike]

Not so sure. If Hibs drop him his sale value might plummet and that's going to be a part of any decision-making. There's also the case of playing a player until form is recaptured/not denting confidence further by dropping him. It's a really difficult situation.

The pro-longed dip in form will now have impacted his value and I suspect Doidge will now be given his chance (unless Maloney doesn't fancy him).

Whether its effort, form or confidence something isn't right and the central striker in a 3-4-3 is pivotal for the whole team.

There is no doubt that the effort of players is a variable and its a myth that every player gives 100% every game.

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[Key West]

Kevin Nisbet on the whole has been off form for a considerable amount of time and his performances do merit constructive criticism, we've been waiting a while for him to get back to doing well for Hibs, hopefully that will be soon.

[Since90+2]

Kevin Nisbet on the whole has been off form for a considerable amount of time and his performances do merit constructive criticism, we've been waiting a while for him to get back to doing well for Hibs, hopefully that will be soon.

This sums it up pretty well.

[DTS]

I keep asking, what other options? Doidge was available at start of season, Nisbet was 1st choice. Gullan and Scott were also available, they weren't considered. The young Norwegian is only new option we have & he's not available. I would be astonished if Nisbet doesn't remain #1 choice.

Doidge had a very bad covid case which meant he missed the majority of pre season, he came on and scored at Motherwell and then started against Ross County in the 2nd game played 90 mins and scored. He then got injured prior to the next game which was reijka away. The new options people will be referring to are a hopefully fit doidge who has hardly been available post injury due to a red card on his 2nd game back, melkersen & I assume mueller who can play across the front 3. Nisbet is out of form but still a good striker and if all were firing I’d expect to be No1. That being said the squad as it is rn if everyone’s available it’s perfectly conceivable that you could start a front 3 without nisbet.

[blackpoolhibs]

Doidge had a very bad covid case which meant he missed the majority of pre season, he came on and scored at Motherwell and then started against Ross County in the 2nd game played 90 mins and scored. He then got injured prior to the next game which was reijka away. The new options people will be referring to are a hopefully fit doidge who has hardly been available post injury due to a red card on his 2nd game back, melkersen & I assume mueller who can play across the front 3. Nisbet is out of form but still a good striker and if all were firing I’d expect to be No1. That being said the squad as it is rn if everyone’s available it’s perfectly conceivable that you could start a front 3 without nisbet.
:top marks

[superfurryhibby]

Doidge had a very bad covid case which meant he missed the majority of pre season, he came on and scored at Motherwell and then started against Ross County in the 2nd game played 90 mins and scored. He then got injured prior to the next game which was reijka away. The new options people will be referring to are a hopefully fit doidge who has hardly been available post injury due to a red card on his 2nd game back, melkersen & I assume mueller who can play across the front 3. Nisbet is out of form but still a good striker and if all were firing I’d expect to be No1. That being said the squad as it is rn if everyone’s available it’s perfectly conceivable that you could start a front 3 without nisbet.

Melkerson isn't available though and Mueller isn't a centre forward, so we right now we have Doidge, who didn't get on the park on Monday and the lamentable James Scott.

It is conceivable that we could have a front three without Nisbet, but I reckon he will start tonight, and hopefully score.

[WestStandWillie]

Nisbet will get a couple of goals tonight and kick on from there.

[Callum_62]

If Boyle goes this week can we blame Jack Ross?

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[nonshinyfinish]

If Boyle goes this week can we blame Jack Ross?

[emoji6]

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Right now Nisbet seems most likely to get the blame.

[Coco Bryce]

Doidge had a very bad covid case which meant he missed the majority of pre season, he came on and scored at Motherwell and then started against Ross County in the 2nd game played 90 mins and scored. He then got injured prior to the next game which was reijka away. The new options people will be referring to are a hopefully fit doidge who has hardly been available post injury due to a red card on his 2nd game back, melkersen & I assume mueller who can play across the front 3. Nisbet is out of form but still a good striker and if all were firing I’d expect to be No1. That being said the squad as it is rn if everyone’s available it’s perfectly conceivable that you could start a front 3 without nisbet.

:agree:

[Coco Bryce]

Nisbet will get a couple of goals tonight and kick on from there.

We all hope that to be fair.

Laddie can be sublime on his day...

[brog]

Doidge had a very bad covid case which meant he missed the majority of pre season, he came on and scored at Motherwell and then started against Ross County in the 2nd game played 90 mins and scored. He then got injured prior to the next game which was reijka away. The new options people will be referring to are a hopefully fit doidge who has hardly been available post injury due to a red card on his 2nd game back, melkersen & I assume mueller who can play across the front 3. Nisbet is out of form but still a good striker and if all were firing I’d expect to be No1. That being said the squad as it is rn if everyone’s available it’s perfectly conceivable that you could start a front 3 without nisbet.

You make several good points but unfortunately not everyone is available. Our options at present therefore remain Doidge and Scott, the latter of course has been available all season. I'd like to see Doidge get a start, he has a good record versus lower league opponents, but I'm not sure Maloney will change his system to play 2 central strikers. We'll know soon enough.

[StevesFamau5]

Few rumours on twitter saying Boyle is off. Wonder if it's the Saudi side again?

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[johncrobertson@]

Dylan Tait to Kilmarnock on loan

[May21/05/216]

Few rumours on twitter saying Boyle is off. Wonder if it's the Saudi side again?

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[flash]

Dylan Tait to Kilmarnock on loan

Thought that might happen but presumed back to Raith.

[bigwheel]

Dylan Tait to Kilmarnock on loan

What a shame that would be for him - would have been better staying where he was until season end

[Since90+2]

Dylan Tait to Kilmarnock on loan

That would be a strange one.

[Steven79]

Few rumours on twitter saying Boyle is off. Wonder if it's the Saudi side again?

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[Ronniekirk]

Dylan Tait to Kilmarnock on loan

Is this for real So we have paid money fir McKay and Tait only to
Loan them out to the Championship
The guy hasn’t even had a chance in the first team yet


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[Billy Whizz]

What a shame that would be for him - would have been better staying where he was until season end

I agree with this, and to send him to one of Raith’s promotion rivals, is a wee bit naughty in my opinion

Strange also we brought Bradley back too, can’t play for anyone else now, as he’s played for Ayr and Hibs. He’s cup-tied too as he played for Ayr in the last round

[Steven79]

That would be a strange one.Been confirmed.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/dylan-tait-joins-kilmarnock-on-loan?s=08

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[johncrobertson@]

Where did you see this?

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Official Site

[Stuart93]

Been confirmed.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/dylan-tait-joins-kilmarnock-on-loan?s=08

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Seems we’re making space to spend some cash we have coming our way

[bingo70]

I agree with this, and to send him to one of Raith’s promotion rivals, is a wee bit naughty in my opinion

Strange also we brought Bradley back too, can’t play for anyone else now, as he’s played for Ayr and Hibs. He’s cup-tied too as he played for Ayr in the last round

I never thought of that. Strange move.

He’s nowhere near the level we want to be at just now IMO.

[GloryGlory]

That would be a strange one.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/dylan-tait-joins-kilmarnock-on-loan

Seems strange to bring him back from Raith then loan him out again.

Maybe the new manager feels differently from Jack Ross about whether he is needed for the rest of the season.

[Since452]

Kilmarnock now my new favourite Championship team.

[Steven79]

Official SiteBoyle leaving?

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[Sean1875]

I agree with this, and to send him to one of Raith’s promotion rivals, is a wee bit naughty in my opinion

Strange also we brought Bradley back too, can’t play for anyone else now, as he’s played for Ayr and Hibs. He’s cup-tied too as he played for Ayr in the last round

Aye agreed, would be a bit pissed off if I was a Raith fan, surely better just staying there for the rest of the season if he was already playing regularly with them. Maybe we just value DM training very highly and think he’ll be able to get him to the next level!!


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[Unseen work]

Disappointed with Tait going on loan. Reckon he’d be just as good if not better than Campbell

Also think it’s poor from Hibs moaning him to Kilmarnock, I suppose it’s a business decision though as they may cover more of his wage and perhaps Tait never wanted to go back to Raith.

A loan to a premiership team would have been much better, would imagine a couple would be interested.

Is our admiration of McCinness having an influence of us sending players to him? Developed a fair few at Aberdeen

[Unseen work]

Is this Boyle rumour as concrete as the one last week that we accepted a 3 million pound bid?

[JimBHibees]

I agree with this, and to send him to one of Raith’s promotion rivals, is a wee bit naughty in my opinion

Strange also we brought Bradley back too, can’t play for anyone else now, as he’s played for Ayr and Hibs. He’s cup-tied too as he played for Ayr in the last round

Can he go back to Ayr?

[Since90+2]

Reading between the lines Tait maybe hasn't impressed all that much on training last few weeks otherwise the whole thing seems very odd.

[Unseen work]

Jason Naismith
Fraser Murray
Oil Shaw
Stephen McGinn
Dan Mackay
Dylan Tait

Quite the Hibs contingent at Killie now

[Hibbyradge]

It's just like Clarke leaving RC early to come here on loan.

[Unseen work]

I agree with this, and to send him to one of Raith’s promotion rivals, is a wee bit naughty in my opinion

Strange also we brought Bradley back too, can’t play for anyone else now, as he’s played for Ayr and Hibs. He’s cup-tied too as he played for Ayr in the last round

Was thinking that myself when Bradley came on.

Only option is Ayr or us now.

Maybe he’s impressed Maloney a lot? Got to be said I’ve never viewed him as a left wing back where he came on. Think he’d be better suited to the position Wright and Boyle play.

[Billy Whizz]

Can he go back to Ayr?

He can only play for Ayr or Hibs this season now
So yes he can go back to Ayr

[JohnM1875]

I agree with this, and to send him to one of Raith’s promotion rivals, is a wee bit naughty in my opinion

Strange also we brought Bradley back too, can’t play for anyone else now, as he’s played for Ayr and Hibs. He’s cup-tied too as he played for Ayr in the last round

Totally agree! Bad patter from Hibs with Tait

[Hibbyradge]

Totally agree! Bad patter from Hibs with Tait

Bad patter by Arsenal with Clarke too?

[flash]

I agree with this, and to send him to one of Raith’s promotion rivals, is a wee bit naughty in my opinion

Strange also we brought Bradley back too, can’t play for anyone else now, as he’s played for Ayr and Hibs. He’s cup-tied too as he played for Ayr in the last round
Am sure you used to like Hibs.

[Hibernian Verse]

Bad patter by Arsenal with Clarke too?

No just big bad Hibs.

[bigwheel]

I agree with this, and to send him to one of Raith’s promotion rivals, is a wee bit naughty in my opinion

Strange also we brought Bradley back too, can’t play for anyone else now, as he’s played for Ayr and Hibs. He’s cup-tied too as he played for Ayr in the last round

There’s a few things that have felt a bit “off” with the club in recent times . This may end up not being one of them , but doesn’t intuitively feel like how things should be done …

[04Sauzee]

Hibs bring back Tait for the manager to look at and decides that another loan would be beneficial. Raith already brought in Sam Stanton as a replacement and perhaps Killie were OK to pay all or a good chunk of his wages.

Seems like a good move and see how he gets on with a other team that isn't Raith Rovers.

[Hibbyradge]

There’s a few things that have felt a bit “off” with the club in recent times . This may end up not being one of them , but doesn’t intuitively feel like how things should be done …

Raith have a midfielder from the rangers on loan.

[J-C]

Maybe Killie are covering more of his wages.

[04Sauzee]

Is this Boyle rumour as concrete as the one last week that we accepted a 3 million pound bid?

Just catching up is this on twitter or on here?

[Unseen work]

In fairness to Hibs/Maloney we didn’t recall him.

We signed him in the summer and Raith said the only way they’d accept it is if they got him on loan until January so they could find a replacement.

It’s not like he’s been recalled for absolutely no reason then loaned back out.

[bigwheel]

In fairness to Hibs/Maloney we didn’t recall him.

We signed him in the summer and Raith said the only way they’d accept it is if they got him on loan until January so they could find a replacement.

It’s not like he’s been recalled for absolutely no reason then loaned back out.

Fair point ….

[Unseen work]

Just catching up is this on twitter or on here?

Sorry it was a sarcastic post based on the rumours this time last week that Boyle was off and we had accepted a 3 million pound bid.

Seemed to be rubbish as he played against Celtic and no reports in the press but here we are again.

[JohnM1875]

Bad patter by Arsenal with Clarke too?

Aye actually it is.

[04Sauzee]

Sorry it was a sarcastic post based on the rumours this time last week that Boyle was off and we had accepted a 3 million pound bid.

Seemed to be rubbish as he played against Celtic and no reports in the press but here we are again.

😁 It's fine I'm sure everybody would rather if Boyle was going to go it was concluded ASAP .

[Heisenberg]

His loan with Raith ended. Maloney has had a look and decided he could do with a loan until the end of the season. Don’t see the issue and don’t see why we’d automatically need to loan him back to Raith.

[Tambo]

Good luck Dylan for the rest of the season, shame as now going to want Killie to do well now with both Tait and Mackay.

[Hibbyradge]

Aye actually it is.

There are release clauses in loan contracts for good reason.

Hibs can offer Clarke better training and development opportunities. Same applies to Killie and Raith.

Bad patter my erchie.

[Unseen work]

😁 It's fine I'm sure everybody would rather if Boyle was going to go it was concluded ASAP .

100% mate.

3 million would be a huge amount for Boyle, especially at this stage in his career.

3rd place this season gets 3 million due to the conference league group stage don’t they? The way I’d be looking at it is we’re unlikely to catch a consistent hearts at the moment as they’re 10 points ahead. 3 million for Boyle would put us on par with the money they’re going to get.

You never know who we replace Boyle with nah suit Maloney’s style better as tbf I’m not sure it’s one that gets the best out of him.

Better suited for Barrie McKay and players of that ilk.

[MWHIBBIES]

Very strange to loan Tait. Either turns out hes hopeless or we're signing probably 2 central midfielders. I thought the plan was for him to feature in the first team.

[CapitalGreen]

Raith now have 4 players on loan which is the maximum allowed so it wouldn’t have been possible for him to return.

The idea we’ve shafted them after paying them a decent fee and allowing him to stay for the first half of the season so they could find a replacement is total nonsense.

[Stuart93]

Very strange to loan Tait. Either turns out hes hopeless or we're signing probably 2 central midfielders. I thought the plan was for him to feature in the first team.

Was that the plan? He’s only a young lad at 20

Just because we’ve loaned him out doesn’t mean he’s hopeless or that we’re signing another 2 CMs. I’d imagine his game time here would’ve been limited just now

[Since90+2]

Was that the plan? He’s only a young lad at 20

Just because we’ve loaned him out doesn’t mean he’s hopeless or that we’re signing another 2 CMs. I’d imagine his game time here would’ve been limited just now

Is 20 really that young? It's not as if we are talking about a 16 year old laddie.

[truehibernian]

Strange given we’re very light in combative box to box players, but Maloney maybe sees sticking with Josh Campbell in that area which limits Dylan’s potential playing time.

Just wish we wouldn’t loan to teams that play home games on artificial surfaces (given how many others have them in that league) - for a variety of reasons, young players regularly playing on real grass is far more beneficial long term, certainly technique wise.