Winter 2021-22 transfer thread

[500miles]

Going by some of the comments from hearts fans The bitterness and seethe towards him now shows their true colours.

Hoping he gets injured etc


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He's better getting injured on 10k pw than 4k pw.

[Onceinawhile]

Going by some of the comments from hearts fans The bitterness and seethe towards him now shows their true colours.

Hoping he gets injured etc


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There would be plenty of us doing the same if it was one of our players.

[Billy Whizz]

There would be plenty of us doing the same if it was one of our players.

I can’t imagine what would be on here, if our prize asset was signing for Rangers for free

[007]

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any idea who that is between Allan and Murphy?

Almost looks mixed race and short dark hair similar to Nathan Wood - not someone I recognise from our squad.

Malik Zaid from development team?

Maybe it’s just the angle that’s throwing me off.

https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1481972200966176772?s=21 Full photo there as the attachment might not be the best. Scotty certainly seems excited by him…

Djokovic! 🤔

[JohnM1875]

I can’t imagine what would be on here, if our prize asset was signing for Rangers for free

Just need to think back to when Flo signed on loan for the huns. This is no doubt worse cause Souttar is actually a good player.

[04Sauzee]

No idea about the keeper that was mentioned here earlier but I read only one remark on either twitter or Instagram or somewhere anyway that he's supposedly American?

Have no idea if true or if anyone else has heard anything.

[500miles]

Just need to think back to when Flo signed on loan for the huns. This is no doubt worse cause Souttar is actually a good player.

It was the nature of Flo and KT's moves. I don't remember Whittaker getting so much hate.

[007]

I can’t imagine what would be on here, if our prize asset was signing for Rangers for free

A pre-contract is possibly the worst outcome for them. Won't get any money for him and if they play him, I can't see him giving 100%. He'll be trying not to get injured, particularly given his history.

[JohnM1875]

It was the nature of Flo and KT's moves. I don't remember Whittaker getting so much hate.

Totally. And I think signing a pre-contract with them is why they're so pissed off. Heading through to Glasgow for nothing. Offt, unlucky! 😂

[Winston Ingram]

Going by some of the comments from hearts fans The bitterness and seethe towards him now shows their true colours.

Hoping he gets injured etc


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I listened to him on the Open Goal podcast today and despite his lack of game time, he clearly has no intention of returning anytime soon. He’s loving it over there.

[Billy Whizz]

A pre-contract is possibly the worst outcome for them. Won't get any money for him and if they play him, I can't see him giving 100%. He'll be trying not to get injured, particularly given his history.

Heard the Motherwell manager calling out pre contracts in January between Scottish clubs. Are we the only country who do this?

I remember well the atmosphere at Easter Rd when Caldwell did the same and got Hibs no fee

[Hibees1973]

The thing is the yams think Soutter is worth over £6m, they have this belief he 'owes them'. Well looks like they are going to get less than nowt, unless sevco offer a derisory sum a day before the transfer window closes.

Tbh I do understand their seethe.

Think Soutter is as popular at tiny now as Derek Riordan. :faf:

[Hibee Mac]

Heard the Motherwell manager calling out pre contracts in January between Scottish clubs. Are we the only country who do this?

I remember well the atmosphere at Easter Rd when Caldwell did the same and got Hibs no feeNot sure what the problem with pre contracts is to be honest. It's just signing a contract with a future employer 6 months ahead.

If a club has let a contract run down to 6 months for a player then they're not expecting to get any money for him anyway.

[jacomo]

Heard the Motherwell manager calling out pre contracts in January between Scottish clubs. Are we the only country who do this?

I remember well the atmosphere at Easter Rd when Caldwell did the same and got Hibs no fee


No we’re not the only country that does it.

It’s hard to see a way around it, because players coming to the end of a contract will want to know that their next move is confirmed in writing.

Loans between clubs in the same division should end though - same issue with conflicted loyalties but totally avoidable imo.

[Steven79]

Not sure what the problem with pre contracts is to be honest. It's just signing a contract with a future employer 6 months ahead.

If a club has let a contract run down to 6 months for a player then they're not expecting to get any money for him anyway.

They had plenty of time to get him to sign a new contract but because of his injury problems they clearly didn't want to risk it and are now paying the price...

[Billy Whizz]

Not sure what the problem with pre contracts is to be honest. It's just signing a contract with a future employer 6 months ahead.

If a club has let a contract run down to 6 months for a player then they're not expecting to get any money for him anyway.

The problem is they are playing against each other, don’t think this is allowed in England, but maybe someone can clarify
In business if you were joining a competitor, you would be put on garden leave during your notice period

[ancient hibee]

I listened to him on the Open Goal podcast today and despite his lack of game time, he clearly has no intention of returning anytime soon. He’s loving it over there.

I’ve tried to tie this in with the post you quoted about Souttar but have to admit defeat.:greengrin

[Since452]

The thing is the yams think Soutter is worth over £6m, they have this belief he 'owes them'. Well looks like they are going to get less than nowt, unless sevco offer a derisory sum a day before the transfer window closes.

Tbh I do understand their seethe.

Think Soutter is as popular at tiny now as Derek Riordan. :faf:

Absolutely loving their tears. Soapy Souttar can't wait to leave the famous. Can't get away quick enough. Not a great look.

[Unseen work]

Maloney saying Scott is going nowhere.

Been impressed with him in training and says it’s now time for him to show it on the pitch.

[Sean1875]

Maloney saying Scott is going nowhere.

Been impressed with him in training and says it’s now time for him to show it on the pitch.

As in Allan or James?


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[ahibby]

Maloney saying Scott is going nowhere.

Been impressed with him in training and says it’s now time for him to show it on the pitch.

Good luck to both.

[ancient hibee]

Souttar has this reputation as a top defender(maybe because of his goal for Scotland)but I can’t help wondering why Gordon has to make so many saves -highest in the league I believe.

[J-C]

As in Allan or James?


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Hopefully both but especially Allan.

[Unseen work]

Should have clarified, it’s James Scott.

[allmodcons]

Maloney saying Scott is going nowhere.

Been impressed with him in training and says it’s now time for him to show it on the pitch.

Scott Allan or James Scott? And where you seeing this?

[Unseen work]

Scott Allan or James Scott? And where you seeing this?

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/shaun-maloney-reveals-why-james-scott-will-stay-at-hibs-after-hull-loanee-was-frozen-out-by-jack-ross-3528412

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Good luck to both.

Sometimes a change in manager is all it takes. Happened with Newell.

[superfurryhibby]

Scott Allan or James Scott? And where you seeing this?

"The 21-year-old fell out of favour under previous boss Jack Ross, who dropped him from his matchday squads after questioning the player’s fitness, but Maloney has been impressed with Scott so far.

He said: "James will stay until the end of the season. I've been really happy with him in training. After what he's shown, the next stage for him is that when he gets match minutes he has to show what he's been doing in training"

Scott could end up being a surprise package. It would be a real turnaround in his fortunes if he can get onto the pitch again and do the business.

[Since452]

If James Scott can hit form then our squad will be very decent. I still think 3rd is on.

[Steven79]

If James Scott can hit form then our squad will be very decent. I still think 3rd is on.

Yeah same here.

Hopefully we play that lot at Easter Road on the last day of the season (15th of May) and smash em at Easter Road.

[Hibee Mac]

There was definitely a player in Scott at Well, but he's just not shown a thing in a Hibs shirt yet. Happy to see if Maloney can get a tune out him till end of the season.

[Hibee Mac]

The problem is they are playing against each other, don’t think this is allowed in England, but maybe someone can clarify
In business if you were joining a competitor, you would be put on garden leave during your notice periodHmm yeh good point. Didn't realise it wasn't allowed in England either.

I reckon it would be unfair to make players wait to sign contracts though, I think what we have just now is a fair compromise.

[allmodcons]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/shaun-maloney-reveals-why-james-scott-will-stay-at-hibs-after-hull-loanee-was-frozen-out-by-jack-ross-3528412

Cheers

[GreenPJ]

Cheers

Think the article is harsh - Ross didn't freeze him out, he didn't do nearly enough to be in the squad. Secondly I think this is spin from SM - Hull don't want him back without any game time in him and am guessing we can't force them to take them back. If he really was showing up why are we looking at bringing another forward.

[Since452]

Think the article is harsh - Ross didn't freeze him out, he didn't do nearly enough to be in the squad. Secondly I think this is spin from SM - Hull don't want him back without any game time in him and am guessing we can't force them to take them back. If he really was showing up why are we looking at bringing another forward.

Did we not cancel Nathan Wood's loan? I'd imagine we could do the same with Scott's.

[ahibby]

There was definitely a player in Scott at Well, but he's just not shown a thing in a Hibs shirt yet. Happy to see if Maloney can get a tune out him till end of the season.

He is a big lad and if teams back off then he is in, however if they are brave and stick in then we will see.

[superfurryhibby]

Think the article is harsh - Ross didn't freeze him out, he didn't do nearly enough to be in the squad. Secondly I think this is spin from SM - Hull don't want him back without any game time in him and am guessing we can't force them to take them back. If he really was showing up why are we looking at bringing another forward.

I can't really take seriously the idea that this is spin from Maloney. Who knows the terms of the loan, but I think it's easier just to believe that Scott might be doing well at training, like the boss man says?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Did we not cancel Nathan Wood's loan? I'd imagine we could do the same with Scott's.

Maybe the terms of the loan are different? I think it could be althe case that we can’t get rid so SM is talking him up in the hope he can get a tune out of him.

[Unseen work]

There’s a player in Scott, no doubt about it after what he done for Motherwell.

He’s bulked up/put in weight since then which was probably always going to happen with him growing, his ankle injury and lack of games due to covid.

If we can get him fit and sharp then he’s a very good option for the left of a front 3 role imo. Hopefully he finds his pace and he can go direct at defenders again and score some of the peaches he did at Motherwell

[Billy Whizz]

Maybe the terms of the loan are different? I think it could be a the case that we can’t get rid so SM is talking him up in the hope he can get a time out of him.

I agree with this

[ahibby]

I can't really take seriously the idea that this is spin from Maloney. Who knows the terms of the loan, but I think it's easier just to believe that Scott might be doing well at training, like the boss man says?

It can be either and best to see for ourselves. SM might not be sure that training translates into game form in his case but Bushiri should test him with tastey tackles.

[hibbydog]

There’s a player in Scott, no doubt about it after what he done for Motherwell.

He’s bulked up/put in weight since then which was probably always going to happen with him growing, his ankle injury and lack of games due to covid.

If we can get him fit and sharp then he’s a very good option for the left of a front 3 role imo. Hopefully he finds his pace and he can go direct at defenders again and score some of the peaches he did at Motherwell

Nice optimistic post to read.

I think he’s fat and sh*te and I’d be raging if we were paying anything for him.

It’s been obvious for months that he needs to lose weight and train harder. It’s not happening so he stays out of match day squads until he shows enough.

Very disappointed with him tbh

[Broken Gnome]

Nice optimistic post to read.

I think he’s fat and sh*te...

:greengrin

[SteveHFC]

John Souttar agrees Rangers pre-contract

[ahibby]

Nice optimistic post to read.

I think he’s fat and sh*te and I’d be raging if we were paying anything for him.

It’s been obvious for months that he needs to lose weight and train harder. It’s not happening so he stays out of match day squads until he shows enough.

Very disappointed with him tbh

I am not sure about all of that but it made me laugh. I do think his attitude isnt right but will wait and see if SM makes the difference. My gut says no because we are tied in but hope I am wrong of course.

[CapitalGreen]

Think the article is harsh - Ross didn't freeze him out, he didn't do nearly enough to be in the squad. Secondly I think this is spin from SM - Hull don't want him back without any game time in him and am guessing we can't force them to take them back. If he really was showing up why are we looking at bringing another forward.

Who says we are looking to bring in another forward?

[Billy Whizz]

John Souttar agrees Rangers pre-contract

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-john-souttar

[truehibernian]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-john-souttar

Ooooh that’s an icy statement 😂 can’t see that forcing The Rangers hand during January, if anything they’re well stocked at centre half - they’ll lowball or wait 5 months and get him for the middle of a doughnut 👍

Three major injuries in last three years too so they won’t bid a lot - he’ll get pelters from their stands first mistake he makes. Perfect 👍

[hibbyfraelibby]

Ooooh that’s an icy statement 😂 can’t see that forcing The Rangers hand during January, if anything they’re well stocked at centre half - they’ll lowball or wait 5 months and get him for the middle of a doughnut 👍

Three major injuries in last three years too so they won’t bid a lot - he’ll get pelters from their stands first mistake he makes. Perfect 👍

Who now doubts he will get a 4th major injury in training?

[GreenCastle]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-john-souttar

Sounds like the big huns and mini huns have had a falling out. The popcorn is out for this one.

Kickback thread on it is pretty funny - calling him a rat etc!

Would have thought Souttar might have gone to England to test himself but across the M8 is the comfortable option.

While he’s been in good form and unlucky with injuries - I’m not sure he’s what Rangers really need to make them better in Europe etc.

[Iain G]

Ooooh that’s an icy statement 😂 can’t see that forcing The Rangers hand during January, if anything they’re well stocked at centre half - they’ll lowball or wait 5 months and get him for the middle of a doughnut 👍

Three major injuries in last three years too so they won’t bid a lot - he’ll get pelters from their stands first mistake he makes. Perfect 👍

Will they play him against Sevco? It's always an awkward situation.

[S4uzee]

Always thought he was very overrated. Opinions eh

[Since452]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-john-souttar

Chuckle chuckle

[Stuart93]

Sounds like the big huns and mini huns have had a falling out. The popcorn is out for this one.

Kickback thread on it is pretty funny - calling him a rat etc!

Would have thought Souttar might have gone to England to test himself but across the M8 is the comfortable option.

While he’s been in good form and unlucky with injuries - I’m not sure he’s what Rangers really need to make them better in Europe etc.

I disagree to be honest. I think souttar’s a really good CB who’s comfortable with the bill at his feet, only going to get better as well. I’m glad he’s leaving them & they’re not getting a penny.

[04Sauzee]

Sounds like the big huns and mini huns have had a falling out. The popcorn is out for this one.

Kickback thread on it is pretty funny - calling him a rat etc!

Would have thought Souttar might have gone to England to test himself but across the M8 is the comfortable option.

While he’s been in good form and unlucky with injuries - I’m not sure he’s what Rangers really need to make them better in Europe etc.

He's gone from one of the best if not the best defended in Scotland to being overated and not even the best defender at Hearts in a couple of weeks 😂😂

[JamesHFC]

Sounds like the big huns and mini huns have had a falling out. The popcorn is out for this one.

Kickback thread on it is pretty funny - calling him a rat etc!

Would have thought Souttar might have gone to England to test himself but across the M8 is the comfortable option.

While he’s been in good form and unlucky with injuries - I’m not sure he’s what Rangers really need to make them better in Europe etc.

It’s their own fault for not getting more money for him when they had the chance. They have probably known for a while that he wasn’t going to sign a new contract.

[Since452]

My Jambo mate said he'd sign a new contract as a thank you and leave for 6 million in the summer. Absolute minter 😂😂

[1875Sean]

Seen Ben Stirling has joined Edinburgh city on loan from Hamilton, surprised it’s not worked out for him there

[Hibs4185]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-john-souttar

Can almost hear the tears hitting the keyboard as they typed that statement.

[King Cosell]

My Jambo mate said he'd sign a new contract as a thank you and leave for 6 million in the summer. Absolute minter 😂😂

The replies to Hearts' confirmation tweet are glorious.

:tee hee:

[wallpaperman]

John Souttar agrees Rangers pre-contract

That is glorious news. Rangers may chuck a small amount at Hearts to take him now, but doubt they will pony up a lot.

[Hibiza]

Who is Souttar ? Oor Willies pal ?

[weecounty hibby]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-john-souttar

🤣🤣🤣 decent player but not the Gorgie Baresi that the tarts make him out to be. I assume he has slipped down a few rungs in the ability ladder in the eyes of those over on keechback

[eastmainsmsh]

What a bitter bunch lol 😂 three cheers for
Soapy can we no try and get him on a 6 month loan

[gbhibby]

Anne Budge ripping off her maroon jacket and throwing it to the ground in disgust. They should not have let his contract run down. Good player but will leave a bad taste in the mouth of the club and supporters. What a shame😁💔

[Lendo]

Anne Budge ripping off her maroon jacket and throwing it to the ground in disgust. They should not have let his contract run down. Good player but will leave a bad taste in the mouth of the club and supporters. What a shame😁💔

Will be hilarious seeing his every touch and tackle boo’ed on Tuesday night.

[Col2]

Hearts are screwed. Best defender they have by a mile. Remember what Halkett was like when they got relegated. Gifted a goal every game.

[NC1875]

Hearts are screwed. Best defender they have by a mile. Remember what Halkett was like when they got relegated. Gifted a goal every game.

Ryan Stevenson was in the daily Ranger the other day saying Halkett is better than Porto. Nearly spat my drink out!

[Unseen work]

Don’t think Souttar is as good as being made out, he was rarely mentioned before the summer.

I’m sure I read a stat that hearts conceded an awful lot of chances on their goal, more than us as others in the league.

The difference with hearts and why they’re doing well in the league is Craig Gordon.

Souttar leaving won’t change too much imo.

[Jim44]

Souttar’s defection is Kamberi-esque. Upsetting for the fans, tho’ to be fair, Souttar hasn’t rubbed it into their noses as the Albanian did to us. What makes it funny for us is that Souttar is a very good player and will be missed. God bless their cotton socks. :faf:

[Broken Gnome]

Don’t think Souttar is as good as being made out, he was rarely mentioned before the summer.

I’m sure I read a stat that hearts conceded an awful lot of chances on their goal, more than us as others in the league.

The difference with hearts and why they’re doing well in the league is Craig Gordon.

Souttar leaving won’t change too much imo.

He's improved no end to be fair. Think it was the 1-1 game a few years back - McNulty missed penalty, late equaliser for them - when I could've sworn he was drunk in the first half. Him and Berra were an utter shambles.

[Unseen work]

He's improved no end to be fair. Think it was the 1-1 game a few years back - McNulty missed penalty, late equaliser for them - when I could've sworn he was drunk in the first half. Him and Berra were an utter shambles.

We’re they a 4 at the back then?

For me playing in a back 3 suits him so will be interesting how he gets on at rangers.

[Broken Gnome]

We’re they a 4 at the back then?

For me playing in a back 3 suits him so will be interesting how he gets on at rangers.

Don't know, I didn't see much sign of an ability to walk or control a ball, let alone a shape to them.

[Since452]

Souttar’s defection is Kamberi-esque. Upsetting for the fans, tho’ to be fair, Souttar hasn’t rubbed it into their noses as the Albanian did to us. What makes it funny for us is that Souttar is a very good player and will be missed. God bless their cotton socks. :faf:

Wait until he has his first interview on hun TV.

[southern hibby]

So all the time hearts fans spoke about not giving the maroon pound to this one and that one and then their own player has just told them he doesn’t want the maroon pound either. Pleasing very very Pleasing.

GGTTH

[ahibby]

So all the time hearts fans spoke about not giving the maroon pound to this one and that one and then their own player has just told them he doesn’t want the maroon pound either. Pleasing very very Pleasing.

GGTTH

Hes not all that, though.

[King Cosell]

Daniel Mackay on for Killie.

[Glory Lurker]

He's a great player. Can understand the jambo hurt.

Whether at the PBS or the Death Star, I hope he continues to play regularly for the rest of the season. It's all about Scotland.

[majorhibs]

John Souttar agrees Rangers pre-contract

Dunno really if this should have me smirkin so much. But it does. Hugely!

[Unseen work]

Daniel Mackay on for Killie.

Looked a bit rusty which is understandable but he played a fantastic through ball on the half volley to shaw which put him through on goal.

[Hibee Mac]

Looked a bit rusty which is understandable but he played a fantastic through ball on the half volley to shaw which put him through on goal.Agreed, he should have had an assist if Shaw had done better with that chance. MacKay gets forward well, just his decision making which was rusty like you say.

That will come with game time though, so here's hoping he gets a good run out in the side for the rest of the season and comes back a fit and better player for it.

[Jones28]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-john-souttar

“Fine, go, you’ll see, prick”

[bingo70]

“Fine, go, you’ll see, prick”

Don’t tell me they’re threatening withholding the maroon pound from him?

[007]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-john-souttar

"Heart of Midlothian Football Club notes Rangers Football Club’s announcement of John Souttar’s pre-contract signing."


Sounds like the Rangers statement was the 1st they'd heard about it. Good of him to let them know. 😂

[jacomo]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-john-souttar


They’re even copying the pretentious, high-handed style used by their blue cousins in Glasgow. ‘HMFC notes…’ lol.

Truly the diet Huns.

[xyz23jc]

Just need to think back to when Flo signed on loan for the huns. This is no doubt worse cause Souttar is actually a good player.

Or even Aberdeen, both events will be equally hilarious... Hopefully with same results! :greengrin:thumbsup:

[Stuart93]

Melkersen supposedly still not got his work permit granted yet to allow him to feature on Monday.

[Is It On....]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-john-souttar


It might be unpopular to say, but I think that the statement from Hearts strikes the correct tone - they supported him through his injuries and he leaves on a free contract. He could have signed an extension with a release clause so that Hearts got something. In addition, going to Rangers shows a lack of ambition and I hope that his career stalls from here, starting with Hearts playing him in their reserve team until the summer.

[Callum_62]

Melkersen supposedly still not got his work permit granted yet to allow him to feature on Monday.Surley he couldn't train either? Wouldn't that be classed as working?

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[B.H.F.C]

Surley he couldn't train either? Wouldn't that be classed as working?

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That’s what I thought but Hibs have confirmed they’re still waiting on confirmation of it.

[7062]

It might be unpopular to say, but I think that the statement from Hearts strikes the correct tone - they supported him through his injuries and he leaves on a free contract. He could have signed an extension with a release clause so that Hearts got something. In addition, going to Rangers shows a lack of ambition and I hope that his career stalls from here, starting with Hearts playing him in their reserve team until the summer.

Not a go at you, but wanted to respond on the point about have him being supported through injuries. And the following questions aren’t directed at you - more just me trying to make a point.

What would any other professional club in Europe do with an injured player? He’s under contract, they can’t just stop paying him wages or refuse to treat him. I’m not sure but I don’t think they extended his contract when he was injured - if they had done they’d not be in the position they’re in now.

[ian cruise]

Not a go at you, but wanted to respond on the point about have him being supported through injuries. And the following questions aren’t directed at you - more just me trying to make a point.

What would any other professional club in Europe do with an injured player? He’s under contract, they can’t just stop paying him wages or refuse to treat him. I’m not sure but I don’t think they extended his contract when he was injured - if they had done they’d not be in the position they’re in now.

Absolutely this, and I'd say it for any Hibs player tooo. Just because a player was injured doesn't mean they owe the club more than any other player. They were a contacted employee and the club has a responsibility to support them in the unfortunate event of injury. No professorial club is doing a contacted player some sort of favour by paying for their rehabilitation, it's the bare minimum they should be doing.

[Stevie Reid]

It might be unpopular to say, but I think that the statement from Hearts strikes the correct tone - they supported him through his injuries and he leaves on a free contract. He could have signed an extension with a release clause so that Hearts got something. In addition, going to Rangers shows a lack of ambition and I hope that his career stalls from here, starting with Hearts playing him in their reserve team until the summer.

Hearts would have been grossly negligent if they hadn’t supported him through his injuries - it’s a hard one for them to take for sure, but he’s well within his rights to pursue his best option.

Plus - and don’t get me wrong, I utterly despise Rangers - how does signing for them show a lack of ambition? If he stays fit, he’ll win trophies there.

They’re the current league champions and sit six points clear at the top of the league at the moment. In the latter stages of the Europa League too.

Unless there’s a dramatic turnaround in their fortunes in the next five months, he’ll be arriving (provided he doesn’t move this month) at a team in the Champions League group stages, this summer.

What were the other options for him - Stoke and Blackburn? Would signing for them be showing more ambition?

[Is It On....]

Not a go at you, but wanted to respond on the point about have him being supported through injuries. And the following questions aren’t directed at you - more just me trying to make a point.

What would any other professional club in Europe do with an injured player? He’s under contract, they can’t just stop paying him wages or refuse to treat him. I’m not sure but I don’t think they extended his contract when he was injured - if they had done they’d not be in the position they’re in now.

You are right about having to support him as he was under contract when he was injured but I was thinking about David Turnbull when I wrote it and the difference between what he did, extended his contract for another year to make sure Motherwell got a fee (I know he is a Motherwell fan) and what Soutar has done in leaving with the parent club getting nothing after having significant injuries during the term of his contract. Martin Boyle, whom we know also had significant injuries whilst under contract, could also have run down his contract and left Hibs for nothing. I guess it goes to character of the player and we should be grateful we have someone with the character of Martin Boyle (and Motherwell had David Turnbull) rather than a Soutar.

[Is It On....]

Hearts would have been grossly negligent if they hadn’t supported him through his injuries - it’s a hard one for them to take for sure, but he’s well within his rights to pursue his best option.

Plus - and don’t get me wrong, I utterly despise Rangers - how does signing for them show a lack of ambition? If he stays fit, he’ll win trophies there.

They’re the current league champions and sit six points clear at the top of the league at the moment. In the latter stages of the Europa League too.

Unless there’s a dramatic turnaround in their fortunes in the next five months, he’ll be arriving (provided he doesn’t move this month) at a team in the Champions League group stages, this summer.

What were the other options for him - Stoke and Blackburn? Would signing for them be showing more ambition?

SJM chose to go to Championship side Aston Villa rather than Scottish Champions Celtic. Had he chosen Celtic he would have won more trophies at this stage of his career but I would argue is a much better (and richer) player for having chosen Aston Villa over Celtic. In addition, both Blackburn and Stoke, like Aston Villa at the time, both have chances of being promoted to the Premier League.

[King Cosell]

SJM chose to go to Championship side Aston Villa rather than Scottish Champions Celtic. Had he chosen Celtic he would have won more trophies at this stage of his career but I would argue is a much better (and richer) player for having chosen Aston Villa over Celtic. In addition, both Blackburn and Stoke, like Aston Villa at the time, both have chances of being promoted to the Premier League.

At the end of SJM's career we'll know how good he was, we don't really know how good Scott Brown was. Could Brown have played for Liverpool or Man Utd or was Watford & Burnley his level?

[Stevie Reid]

SJM chose to go to Championship side Aston Villa rather than Scottish Champions Celtic. Had he chosen Celtic he would have won more trophies at this stage of his career but I would argue is a much better (and richer) player for having chosen Aston Villa over Celtic. In addition, both Blackburn and Stoke, like Aston Villa at the time, both have chances of being promoted to the Premier League.

SJM didn’t have a choice of signing for Celtic, as they didn’t offer enough to money for him. And I’d wager a large amount of money that he’d happily have signed for them, if they had. Obviously I can’t know that for sure, but neither can you be certain that he’s a better player now at Villa than he would have become at Celtic. He may well be though.

Anyway, it’s besides the point as he didn’t have that option. I find it a hard argument to accept that choosing playing in the English Championship with a shot of promotion at the EPL, somehow shows more ambition than signing for a team where major honours will be almost a certainty.

Ron Gordon is currently trying to grow the income streams for Scottish football by looking to sell the product more effectively than it currently is being. The idea that Stoke or Blackburn are a better option than Rangers is part of the problem that we face in doing so.

I’ve heard it said many times on here over the years that Scott Brown somehow wasted his career by signing for Celtic, despite the fact that he captained them to nine titles in a row, has made more European appearances for them than any other player, and is among the most decorated players to ever play the game, anywhere.

I don’t particularly enjoy seeing players sign for the Old Firm, but the argument that the English Championship should be more aspirational for players than winning honours in Scotland does our game no favours at all.

[Shrekko]

SJM didn’t have a choice of signing for Celtic, as they didn’t offer enough to money for him. And I’d wager a large amount of money that he’d happily have signed for them, if they had. Obviously I can’t know that for sure, but neither can you be certain that he’s a better player now at Villa than he would have become at Celtic. He may well be though.

Anyway, it’s besides the point as he didn’t have that option. I find it a hard argument to accept that choosing playing in the English Championship with a shot of promotion at the EPL, somehow shows more ambition than signing for a team where major honours will be almost a certainty.



Celtic matched Villa's bid at the last minute but McGinn had already decided he would got to Villa after feeling they wanted him more and being impressed with their facilities. He could have gone to Celtic if he'd desperately wanted to- he initially did, but changed his mind for various reasons.

I think SJM had a better grasp of how good he was than a lot of people and backed himself to succeed down South and probably saw it as exciting challenge that could lead to good things- if he'd not done well he'd probably have got signed by Celtic anyway I reckon!

I do agree generally though that it's ridiculous to claim any player signing for or staying with the Old Firm is lacking ambition. Normally players dream of winning titles, cups, playing in front of huge crowds, and in Europe- so what is it that the Old Firm don't give them?

[theonlywayisup]

Any Hibs related transfer news? Seems to have gone a bit quiet lately?

[H18 SFR]

Any Hibs related transfer news? Seems to have gone a bit quiet lately?

I think we might be done. SM was saying yesterday he’s now happy with the squad he has.

[theonlywayisup]

John Souttar agrees Rangers pre-contract

One for the Derby, assuming he leaves in this window, to the tune of Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep:

Where's you Souttar gone; where's you Souttar gone
Where's you Souttar gone; where's you Souttar gone
Where's you Souttar gone; where's you Souttar gone
Far, far away; far far away

Middle of the road - chirpy chirpy cheep cheep (HQ) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eJTNAT8FKc)

As an aside, hadn't realised that the band were Scottish.

[Aldo]

Celtic matched Villa's bid at the last minute but McGinn had already decided he would got to Villa after feeling they wanted him more and being impressed with their facilities. He could have gone to Celtic if he'd desperately wanted to- he initially did, but changed his mind for various reasons.

I think SJM had a better grasp of how good he was than a lot of people and backed himself to succeed down South and probably saw it as exciting challenge that could lead to good things- if he'd not done well he'd probably have got signed by Celtic anyway I reckon!

I do agree generally though that it's ridiculous to claim any player signing for or staying with the Old Firm is lacking ambition. Normally players dream of winning titles, cups, playing in front of huge crowds, and in Europe- so what is it that the Old Firm don't give them?

SJM has taken his game to another level playing down south and whilst I think his attitude etc plays a big part in all this I wonder if he would have been as good if he had signed for Celtic?

I don’t suggest for one minute he wouldn’t have been an excellent player for Celtic but the Championship and now the EPL are and have made him better. His performances for Villa and of course for Scotland price this.


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[Aldo]

I think we might be done. SM was saying yesterday he’s now happy with the squad he has.

Naw. I’m not so sure. Might depend on players leaving etc but I think we will see another attacking type player!


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[adam middlemass]

SJM didn’t have a choice of signing for Celtic, as they didn’t offer enough to money for him. And I’d wager a large amount of money that he’d happily have signed for them, if they had. Obviously I can’t know that for sure, but neither can you be certain that he’s a better player now at Villa than he would have become at Celtic. He may well be though.

Anyway, it’s besides the point as he didn’t have that option. I find it a hard argument to accept that choosing playing in the English Championship with a shot of promotion at the EPL, somehow shows more ambition than signing for a team where major honours will be almost a certainty.

Ron Gordon is currently trying to grow the income streams for Scottish football by looking to sell the product more effectively than it currently is being. The idea that Stoke or Blackburn are a better option than Rangers is part of the problem that we face in doing so.

I’ve heard it said many times on here over the years that Scott Brown somehow wasted his career by signing for Celtic, despite the fact that he captained them to nine titles in a row, has made more European appearances for them than any other player, and is among the most decorated players to ever play the game, anywhere.

I don’t particularly enjoy seeing players sign for the Old Firm, but the argument that the English Championship should be more aspirational for players than winning honours in Scotland does our game no favours at all.
Wish I had been able to write something like this. Spot on Stevie boy ! 👍

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Burnley linked with a move for Andy Carroll to replace Chris Wood, might as well just take their place in next seasons Championship now.

[JamesHFC]

Burnley linked with a move for Andy Carroll to replace Chris Wood, might as well just take their place in next seasons Championship now.

Certainly a downgrade but did you see his two disallowed goals the other day?

[The Spaceman]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/194969-souttar-signs-pre-contract-with-rangers-title-updated/page/15/

They’re not in the slightest bit happy over the road about Souttar signing a pre-contract with Sevco 🤣. One of my favourites so far has been a poster kicking off with “As a co-owner of this club…”.

[Since452]

Souttar going to the huns reminds me of Alan McLaren. Another injury prone but very good red faced chubby center half who did the same thing.

[bigwheel]

SJM didn’t have a choice of signing for Celtic, as they didn’t offer enough to money for him. And I’d wager a large amount of money that he’d happily have signed for them, if they had. Obviously I can’t know that for sure, but neither can you be certain that he’s a better player now at Villa than he would have become at Celtic. He may well be though.

Anyway, it’s besides the point as he didn’t have that option. I find it a hard argument to accept that choosing playing in the English Championship with a shot of promotion at the EPL, somehow shows more ambition than signing for a team where major honours will be almost a certainty.

Ron Gordon is currently trying to grow the income streams for Scottish football by looking to sell the product more effectively than it currently is being. The idea that Stoke or Blackburn are a better option than Rangers is part of the problem that we face in doing so.

I’ve heard it said many times on here over the years that Scott Brown somehow wasted his career by signing for Celtic, despite the fact that he captained them to nine titles in a row, has made more European appearances for them than any other player, and is among the most decorated players to ever play the game, anywhere.

I don’t particularly enjoy seeing players sign for the Old Firm, but the argument that the English Championship should be more aspirational for players than winning honours in Scotland does our game no favours at all.

Do you think SJM would be the player he is now if he had gone and played regularly for Celtic ? I don’t think he would. The standard that he is playing at, and the quality of teammates and opposition is much higher and has helped him grow to a different level (imo) than had he stayed here. It’s those factors that make a move to the championship more developmental than the old firm . They can grow beyond the championship - whereas here , there is a limit .

[Steven79]

Burnley linked with a move for Andy Carroll to replace Chris Wood, might as well just take their place in next seasons Championship now.4 Premier League goals since August 2017.

I didn't even realise he was still playing. [emoji1]

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[Steven79]

Souttar going to the huns reminds me of Alan McLaren. Another injury prone but very good red faced chubby center half who did the same thing.He was a far better player.

I remember him marking Baggio out of a game between Scotland and Italy.

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[Big_Franck]

Certainly a downgrade but did you see his two disallowed goals the other day?

The second one is half decent :greengrin

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12513933/carrolls-bicycle-kick-ruled-offside

[superfurryhibby]

He was a far better player.

I remember him marking Baggio out of a game between Scotland and Italy.

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He did, literally marked Baggio out of that game.

McLaren was a very good player. I rate Souttar too, but he’s not currently in the class as McLaren was.

[Not In The Know]

You are right about having to support him as he was under contract when he was injured but I was thinking about David Turnbull when I wrote it and the difference between what he did, extended his contract for another year to make sure Motherwell got a fee (I know he is a Motherwell fan) and what Soutar has done in leaving with the parent club getting nothing after having significant injuries during the term of his contract. Martin Boyle, whom we know also had significant injuries whilst under contract, could also have run down his contract and left Hibs for nothing. I guess it goes to character of the player and we should be grateful we have someone with the character of Martin Boyle (and Motherwell had David Turnbull) rather than a Soutar.

Good point about contract extensions. But Hearts contract continuity has been a shambles for years with players leaving for reduced fees. Doubt he was offered one. He may even have asked for an extension and been refused.

Nae joy all round I say.

[JohnMcM]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/194969-souttar-signs-pre-contract-with-rangers-title-updated/page/15/

They’re not in the slightest bit happy over the road about Souttar signing a pre-contract with Sevco 🤣. One of my favourites so far has been a poster kicking off with “As a co-owner of this club…”.

I guess there will be a mix of reaction over there, ranging from “He is only doing what he thinks is best for him” through to “Can we ram our pitchforks up his bahookie”.

[Hibernian Verse]

Could be worth finding a stream for their game on Tuesday if he's selected :cb

[Bostonhibby]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/194969-souttar-signs-pre-contract-with-rangers-title-updated/page/15/

They’re not in the slightest bit happy over the road about Souttar signing a pre-contract with Sevco [emoji1787]. One of my favourites so far has been a poster kicking off with “As a co-owner of this club…”.Jeez, you would like to think Soutar and his advisers would have sat down with this guy in his local wetherspoons and discussed the whole thing over a flat pint of lager and 3 small plates for a tenner.

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[SON OF PADDY]

One for the Derby, assuming he leaves in this window, to the tune of Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep:

Where's you Souttar gone; where's you Souttar gone
Where's you Souttar gone; where's you Souttar gone
Where's you Souttar gone; where's you Souttar gone
Far, far away; far far away

Middle of the road - chirpy chirpy cheep cheep (HQ) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eJTNAT8FKc)

As an aside, hadn't realised that the band were Scottish.


Here's some more useless information.
Their lead singer Sally Carr, was married to none other than Chick Young.
That well known liar and so called pundit !

[Is It On....]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/194969-souttar-signs-pre-contract-with-rangers-title-updated/page/15/

They’re not in the slightest bit happy over the road about Souttar signing a pre-contract with Sevco 🤣. One of my favourites so far has been a poster kicking off with “As a co-owner of this club…”.

😂

[Since452]

He was a far better player.

I remember him marking Baggio out of a game between Scotland and Italy.

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Yeah he was excellent.

[NC1875]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/194969-souttar-signs-pre-contract-with-rangers-title-updated/page/15/

They’re not in the slightest bit happy over the road about Souttar signing a pre-contract with Sevco 🤣. One of my favourites so far has been a poster kicking off with “As a co-owner of this club…”.

That is comedy gold. Hero to zero in a couple of pages.

Some of the delusion over there is unreal. Talk of “why not stay here as we’re building something special” 😂

Is that the special 20 million pound stand with the staircase to nowhere!!

[Craig_in_Prague]

That is comedy gold. Hero to zero in a couple of pages.

Some of the delusion over there is unreal. Talk of “why not stay here as we’re building something special” 😂

Is that the special 20 million pound stand with the staircase to nowhere!!

On their transfer thread, someone recently posted Hibs have not improved and have panic bought and Hearts are being patient to get the right targets.

Hmmmm at the start of the window, panic buying? Lol, some bunch.

[Tambo]

Demanding 500k for Souttar 😂

[04Sauzee]

His coffee shop getting it tight with the reviews on Google and TripAdvisor.

Classless.

[truehibernian]

Demanding 500k for Souttar 😂

And add-ons!

The Rangers are close to signing a defender from Vitesse, they also have Balogun, Bassey, Helander and Goldson - why would they pay money now and potentially from a follow on transfer when he goes for nothing in May - Hearts are hamstrung, their bargaining position is weak.

Where’s their sugar daddy when they needed him 😂 mind the way they talk they’ve re-signed the Scottish version of Vincent Kompany in Craig Halkett 😂Craig ******* Halkett 😂

[brog]

Of all the zillion players that Hearts have signed in the last few seasons, Souttar was the only one who I would have liked to see sign for us. Having said that, possibly just through injury he never really had me hugely upset 're his form for them. Being somewhat contrary I didn't join in the huge acclaim for his Scotland appearance versus Denmark. I thought the whole team played well though we have to recognise we caught Denmark at a great time for us. I think this is a win/win for us, Hearts lose out, and im not sure Souttar will improve the other lot. Beggars belief almost! 😁

[J-C]

SJM has taken his game to another level playing down south and whilst I think his attitude etc plays a big part in all this I wonder if he would have been as good if he had signed for Celtic?

I don’t suggest for one minute he wouldn’t have been an excellent player for Celtic but the Championship and now the EPL are and have made him better. His performances for Villa and of course for Scotland price this.


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From the man himself prior to moving, he told me he wanted to go south and ultimately the premier league as he wanted to test himself against the best there is.

[Squealing pig]

Never read kickback but that’s enjoyable , hope they get 50k it’ll be undisclosed anyway , better than nothing squealers

[Sean1875]

His coffee shop getting it tight with the reviews on Google and TripAdvisor.

Classless.

Genuinely didn’t even know he had a coffee shop. Which one?


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[Billy Whizz]

Genuinely didn’t even know he had a coffee shop. Which one?


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He opened one with an ex Dundee Utd teammate, in Brechin recently, where he’s from

[cam75]

Genuinely didn’t even know he had a coffee shop. Which one?

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/2822625/john-souttar-brechin-maison-dieu-coffee-roasters-dundee-united-teammate-hearts-scotland-career-ko-injury/

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If your interested

[Tobias Funke]

His coffee shop getting it tight with the reviews on Google and TripAdvisor.

Classless.

An insight into the mind of your average numbskull football fan.

[Sean1875]

If your interested

Cheers, fair play to him. ***** Jambo patter leaving negative reviews on it considering he opened the place at probably the lowest point of his professional career. After signing with Hearts of course :greengrin

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Certainly a downgrade but did you see his two disallowed goals the other day?

Can't say that I did, I doubt he's the answer to their problems though.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

He was a far better player.

I remember him marking Baggio out of a game between Scotland and Italy.

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One of the best performances in a Scotland jersey that I've witnessed live, he was immense that day.

[1van Sprou7e]

So.. any news? We still in for an attacker?

[JamesHFC]

Never read kickback but that’s enjoyable , hope they get 50k it’ll be undisclosed anyway , better than nothing squealers

I understand their frustration but it’s the club they should be complaining at. Allowing him to leave on a free is their doing. FWIW I hope he stays there until the summer and they get nothing for him as he will get it tight from the fans if he starts regardless.

[Billy Whizz]

I understand their frustration but it’s the club they should be complaining at. Allowing him to leave on a free is their doing. FWIW I hope he stays there until the summer and they get nothing for him as he will get it tight from the fans if he starts regardless.

No idea why they didn’t offer him a contract last summer

[Stevie Reid]

Do you think SJM would be the player he is now if he had gone and played regularly for Celtic ? I don’t think he would. The standard that he is playing at, and the quality of teammates and opposition is much higher and has helped him grow to a different level (imo) than had he stayed here. It’s those factors that make a move to the championship more developmental than the old firm . They can frown beyond the championship - whereas here , there is a limit .

As I said before, I can’t know for sure, but I think there is real merit to the argument that he is a better player now than he would have been at Celtic. But who knows? Rodgers was manager at the time, and he may well have done great things with McGinn.

Anyway, I still don’t get that the Championship is some huge gateway that playing in Scotland isn’t - playing for the OF was no impediment to Van Dijk, Wanyama, Forster, Edouard, Ajer and Patterson, to name but a few recent moves to the EPL.

[Bostonhibby]

No idea why they didn’t offer him a contract last summerMaybe they couldn't get the thousands of "owners" like the guy mentioned above all together in one golf club snug to agree on terms?

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[CentreLine]

Off the ball just reminded listeners hahahahearts signed Souter on a pre-contract 🤣🤣🤣
Asking hahahahahearts fans to call in with comments 😆

[1van Sprou7e]

As I said before, I can’t know for sure, but I think there is real merit to the argument that he is a better player now than he would have been at Celtic. But who knows? Rodgers was manager at the time, and he may well have done great things with McGinn.

Anyway, I still don’t get that the Championship is some huge gateway that playing in Scotland isn’t - playing for the OF was no impediment to Van Dijk, Wanyama, Forster, Edouard, Ajer and Patterson, to name but a few recent moves to the EPL.

Highly unlikely he would be playing in the prem after one season at Celtic though, he made the right choice for his career

[007]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/194969-souttar-signs-pre-contract-with-rangers-title-updated/page/15/

They’re not in the slightest bit happy over the road about Souttar signing a pre-contract with Sevco 🤣. One of my favourites so far has been a poster kicking off with “As a co-owner of this club…”.

Off the Ball just now has been pointing out Hearts fans are hypocritical. They signed him on a pre-contract from Dundee United.

[Since452]

I understand their frustration but it’s the club they should be complaining at. Allowing him to leave on a free is their doing. FWIW I hope he stays there until the summer and they get nothing for him as he will get it tight from the fans if he starts regardless.

I thought this Savage guy was going to revolutionise their transfer policy? They're losing their best and most valuable asset for nothing as it stands and they'll have to accept buttons this month if they want anything at all. Pleasing as they say.

[Stevie Reid]

Highly unlikely he would be playing in the prem after one season at Celtic though, he made the right choice for his career

Maybe not after one, but a good few of the other players I mentioned moved after very little time - Patterson has hardly played for Rangers.

I’m still not convinced that McGinn had a choice anyway - I appreciate what Shrekko said about Celtic having a bid accepted last minute, and what JC said SJM himself said to him. I just hadn’t seen it reported that Celtic had a bid accepted. McGinn himself told Graeme Hunter that he was really disappointed not to have signed for Celtic after their interest was known but not matched by an acceptable bid.

Anyway, this is a transfer thread and I’ve helped to take the conversation off piste a bit with this, which I appreciate can be frustrating for others.

[Hibees1973]

Just heard from a yam I know that Soutter spoke to a few people for advice before joining the hun.

One of these advisers was none other than Craig Levein, who felt Rangers were the best choice. Strikes me as no surprise as Levein is always full of praise when asked about Soutter so still knows him well.

No doubt this would induce a few more snotters down at tiny.

[McD]

Maybe not after one, but a good few of the other players I mentioned moved after very little time - Patterson has hardly played for Rangers.

I’m still not convinced that McGinn had a choice anyway - I appreciate what Shrekko said about Celtic having a bid accepted last minute, and what JC said SJM himself said to him. I just hadn’t seen it reported that Celtic had a bid accepted. McGinn himself told Graeme Hunter that he was really disappointed not to have signed for Celtic after their interest was known but not matched by an acceptable bid.

Anyway, this is a transfer thread and I’ve helped to take the conversation off piste a bit with this, which I appreciate can be frustrating for others.


think the gist of it was the Celtic ****ed us around over the summer, AV came in with an acceptable offer, SJM travelled down to speak to them, and was really impressed by them.

on his way back up, Celtic had panicked because their arrogance had them assuming they’d get him for a song, and matched the AV bid. McGinn was made aware of this but had already made up his mind to go to villa, who had demonstrated how much they valued him and saw in him

[Iggy Pope]

He did, literally marked Baggio out of that game.

McLaren was a very good player. I rate Souttar too, but he’s not currently in the class as McLaren was.

He has the same rosey cheeks. I used to think McLaren was like Ribena Man. Great player though. Diehard hun in the end, did their hospitality after he retired. Like Hearts supporting Sandy Jardine!!!!

[007]

think the gist of it was the Celtic ****ed us around over the summer, AV came in with an acceptable offer, SJM travelled down to speak to them, and was really impressed by them.

on his way back up, Celtic had panicked because their arrogance had them assuming they’d get him for a song, and matched the AV bid. McGinn was made aware of this but had already made up his mind to go to villa, who had demonstrated how much they valued him and saw in him

That's exactly how I remember it.

[CraigHibee]

Off the Ball just now has been pointing out Hearts fans are hypocritical. They signed him on a pre-contract from Dundee United.

That's a definite GIRFUY 🤣

[hibby rae]

Just heard from a yam I know that Soutter spoke to a few people for advice before joining the hun.

One of these advisers was none other than Craig Levein, who felt Rangers were the best choice. Strikes me as no surprise as Levein is always full of praise when asked about Soutter so still knows him well.

No doubt this would induce a few more snotters down at tiny.

Levein is also involved with Brechin

[jacomo]

Just heard from a yam I know that Soutter spoke to a few people for advice before joining the hun.

One of these advisers was none other than Craig Levein, who felt Rangers were the best choice. Strikes me as no surprise as Levein is always full of praise when asked about Soutter so still knows him well.

No doubt this would induce a few more snotters down at tiny.


Seems he certainly didn’t talk to his own manager about it, because Neilson seemed unaware of the pre-contract yesterday until it was announced.

[Hibiza]

Craig Levein - King , self preservationist.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Off the Ball just now has been pointing out Hearts fans are hypocritical. They signed him on a pre-contract from Dundee United.

That's quite amusing. 😀

[easty]

Off the Ball just now has been pointing out Hearts fans are hypocritical. They signed him on a pre-contract from Dundee United.

Did he no sign for Hearts in the January? 6 months before he was out of contract.

[The 90+2]

Did he no sign for Hearts in the January? 6 months before he was out of contract.

A couple of weeks after signing a pre-contract with them.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

From the man himself prior to moving, he told me he wanted to go south and ultimately the premier league as he wanted to test himself against the best there is.

You’ve had more footballers in the back of your cab than James Corden has had celebrities singing karaoke with him behind the wheel.

Fake Taxi With Shinguards On.

[Spike Mandela]

I know I have green tinted specs on but I just have never rated Souttar that highly. Any time we played them I always fancied we could take advantage of his vulnerabilities and his tendency to make a mistake or two.

Levein built him up and long touted him for Scotland but to me that was for selfish reasons rather than an honest critique of the player. It will be interesting if he has improved or indeed improves whilst at Rangers but apart from the annoyance of losing a player to them on the cheap I don’t think Hearts will miss him that much.

[Stevie Reid]

I know I have green tinted specs on but I just have never rated Souttar that highly. Any time we played them I always fancied we could take advantage of his vulnerabilities and his tendency to make a mistake or two.

Levein built him up and long touted him for Scotland but to me that was for selfish reasons rather than an honest critique of the player. It will be interesting if he has improved or indeed improves whilst at Rangers but apart from the annoyance of losing a player to them on the cheap I don’t think Hearts will miss him that much.

I think he’s a good player and they will miss him a great deal. Seems to offer quite a bit going forward, as well as being a good defender.

[Iggy Pope]

You’ve had more footballers in the back of your cab than James Corden has had celebrities singing karaoke with him behind the wheel.

Fake Taxi With Shinguards On.

On browsers everywhere! :greengrin

[Since452]

I know I have green tinted specs on but I just have never rated Souttar that highly. Any time we played them I always fancied we could take advantage of his vulnerabilities and his tendency to make a mistake or two.

Levein built him up and long touted him for Scotland but to me that was for selfish reasons rather than an honest critique of the player. It will be interesting if he has improved or indeed improves whilst at Rangers but apart from the annoyance of losing a player to them on the cheap I don’t think Hearts will miss him that much.

He'll be a huge loss to them.

[Spike Mandela]

He'll be a huge loss to them.

Opinions, eh?:rolleyes: Time will tell.:greengrin

[J-C]

You’ve had more footballers in the back of your cab than James Corden has had celebrities singing karaoke with him behind the wheel.

Fake Taxi With Shinguards On.


Haha I met him at the Willowbrae garage and had a wee blether for 15 mins or so, bumped into him a few times at Meadowbank Sainsbury's as he had a flat next to it, good lad and was always up for a wee chat, he knew where he wanted to go.

[Smartie]

I know I have green tinted specs on but I just have never rated Souttar that highly. Any time we played them I always fancied we could take advantage of his vulnerabilities and his tendency to make a mistake or two.

Levein built him up and long touted him for Scotland but to me that was for selfish reasons rather than an honest critique of the player. It will be interesting if he has improved or indeed improves whilst at Rangers but apart from the annoyance of losing a player to them on the cheap I don’t think Hearts will miss him that much.

He’s had some very wobbly moments in derbies and tbh I’d be inclined to agree with you here - whilst acknowledging this will be far from the full story.

[Callum_62]

I'm guessing Melkerson won't be available for Monday

Looks like we will be missing a few

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[greenlex]

I'm guessing Melkerson won't be available for Monday

Looks like we will be missing a few

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Why? What am I missing? Work permit?

[Ronniekirk]

Why? What am I missing? Work permit?

Yep not come through yet


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[Callum_62]

Why? What am I missing? Work permit?Yes

So no Melkerson or Henderson

Mueller it sounded doubtful

Boyle who knows

Could see rocky in

We need the winter break [emoji23]

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[greenlex]

Yes

So no Melkerson or Henderson

Mueller it sounded doubtful

Boyle who knows

Could see rocky in

We need the winter break [emoji23]

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[dchibs]

Haha I met him at the Willowbrae garage and had a wee blether for 15 mins or so, bumped into him a few times at Meadowbank Sainsbury's as he had a flat next to it, good lad and was always up for a wee chat, he knew where he wanted to go.

Did he know where he wanted to go after replacing his flat tyre?

[J-C]

Did he know where he wanted to go after replacing his flat tyre?

Eh?

Edit, oh I get it now a flat next to Sainsbury's haha very droll.

[hibby rae]

Yep not come through yet


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Surely, if he's training etc, he's already working?

[J-C]

Surely, if he's training etc, he's already working?

He can still train but the permit allows him to play.

[WeAreHibs]

Levein is also involved with Brechin

He also left a Google review for his coffee shop.

[Billy Whizz]

He also left a Google review for his coffee shop.

That’s funny

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

You’ve had more footballers in the back of your cab than James Corden has had celebrities singing karaoke with him behind the wheel.

Fake Taxi With Shinguards On.

That's a quality post 😄

[gbhibby]

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-transfer-alex-ferguson-22727989
Get it done £50m will do fine.

[Is It On....]

Off the ball just reminded listeners hahahahearts signed Souter on a pre-contract 🤣🤣🤣
Asking hahahahahearts fans to call in with comments 😆

Heard that...something like "he has form with this type matter"

[Unseen work]

Rumours of another bid for Boyle and that’s its been accepted.

[Callum_62]

Some rumour on A non rumour thread on Hibs.net that the Hibee bounce say there is mention on twitter that a new bid is in for Boyle.

Sounds credible.Folk that pay a tenner knew hours ago [emoji106]

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[Unseen work]

Folk that pay a tenner knew hours ago [emoji106]

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How much is the fee mate?

[Big_Franck]

Some rumour on A non rumour thread on Hibs.net that the Hibee bounce say there is mention on twitter that a new bid is in for Boyle.

Sounds credible.

That first sentence hurts my head. Has this been reported by anyone credible?

"Heard it on twitter" is as credible as heard it in the pub.

[Gmack7]

That first sentence hurts my head. Has this been reported by anyone credible?

"Heard it on twitter" is as credible as heard it in the pub.

That's just ridiculous, the pubs much more credible than twitter

[Hibbyradge]

Has this been reported by anyone credible?



Yes.

[hibee92]

Yes.

Who?

[hibee92]

Folk that pay a tenner knew hours ago [emoji106]

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Folk who pay a tenner told plenty folk hours ago too

[Dr What If?]

Seems to be little more than an unsubstantiated rumour with no discernable source, nothing to get excited about. If he was to go (and I'd much rather he'd stay) I would rather it was now though and not it two weeks. Still time in this window to bring in another player.

[SMAXXA]

Do folk who pay a tenner just lift it from someone on Twitter?

[hibee92]

Do folk who pay a tenner just lift it from someone on Twitter?

Pretty much.

[Heisenberg]

Do folk who pay a tenner just lift it from someone on Twitter?

No. The rumour started on the PM board and came from a poster with a reputation of being consistently spot on with their info.

[bingo70]

Do folk who pay a tenner just lift it from someone on Twitter?

What if the rumour was on the PM Board before it was on twitter?

I don’t know if it was or not btw, I just know the poster on the PM board has been right before on this subject and got info before it hit the media.

[SMAXXA]

What if the rumour was on the PM Board before it was on twitter?

I don’t know if it was or not btw, I just know the poster on the PM board has been right before on this subject and got info before it hit the media.

Let’s wait and see 👍

[Hibbyradge]

Do folk who pay a tenner just lift it from someone on Twitter?

No

[bingo70]

Let’s wait and see 👍

It’s all we can do.

I’m easy either way. Be great if he stays but if he goes I’m looking forward tk seeing his replacement.

[Unseen work]

So who are we signing to replace him?

Don’t believe for a second we’ll just use the players we already have.

[NC1875]

Leigh Griffiths released by Celtic

[ElginHibbie]

Dundee after Allan according to Daily Record

[Nicho87]

D. Record saying Dundee are after Scott Allan

[Callum_62]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Allan go there

It would also be (presumably) a pretty decent wage gone

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[gbhibby]

Leigh Griffiths released by Celtic
Where is Haymaker?

[Unseen work]

St Johnstone after Nicklas Gunnarson

[Coco Bryce]

That first sentence hurts my head. Has this been reported by anyone credible?

"Heard it on twitter" is as credible as heard it in the pub.

Or seen it on hibs.net 😉

[HoboHarry]

Where is Haymaker?

He's got both hands in his drawers so he can't type.... :)

[GreenCastle]

St Johnstone after Nicklas Gunnarson

How many ex Hibs players do they need..

Booth
Wotherspoon
Craig
Efe
Middleton

Plus Hallberg and Gunnarson ?!!

[Hibees1973]

if a bid has been accepted for Boyle it would not surprise me if Celtic put a bid in, given that Barney McGrew from Trumpton knocked them back.

[Sean1875]

if a bid has been accepted for Boyle it would not surprise me if Celtic put a bid in, given that Barney McGrew from Trumpton knocked them back.

Just don’t see any way Celtic will be paying £3m+ for him.


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[Hibee Mac]

St Johnstone after Nicklas GunnarsonI thought he looked a player in his short time with us. Would take him back here so would be a good signing for them.

[hibee92]

No. The rumour started on the PM board and came from a poster with a reputation of being consistently spot on with their info.

Was on twitter well before the private forum

[Heisenberg]

Was on twitter well before the private forum

Got a link to the tweet?

[Unseen work]

I wonder if the j jury to Clarke means well be in the market for another defender, especially if he’s out for 2 months.

[Unseen work]

Ellis Simms was meant to be going to Derby.

Derby now have a transfer embargo.

We were linked to an Everton forward.

Announce Ellis Simms

[Sean1875]

Was on twitter well before the private forum

I bet it wasn’t.


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[hibee92]

Got a link to the tweet?

Yes

[hibee92]

I bet it wasn’t.


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How much Wilson?

[Heisenberg]

Yes

Any chance you’d like to post it?

[hibee92]

Any chance you’d like to post it?

Sure

[Ronniekirk]

I wonder if the j jury to Clarke means well be in the market for another defender, especially if he’s out for 2 months.

Two months ffs We are jinxed


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[007]

I thought he looked a player in his short time with us. Would take him back here so would be a good signing for them.

I thought so too and from time to time have wondered if he was available. If he is then I'd like to see us go for him.

[Hibs90]

So we have signed players who can’t play and we’re about to lose our most influential one.

His replacement better be good.

[Unseen work]

I’ve mentioned a couple of players I’d like to see replace Boyle like Jordan Jones and Scott Twine.

But how about a complete left field name based on Maloney’s Belgian connections.

Zakaria Bakkali.

Former wonder kid who hasn’t lived upto his potential to say the least. Still only 25.

[Brightside]

Sure

Where is the tweet?

[AlbertK86]

He has the same rosey cheeks. I used to think McLaren was like Ribena Man. Great player though. Diehard hun in the end, did their hospitality after he retired. Like Hearts supporting Sandy Jardine!!!!

Still does the hospitality


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[Percy Vere]

Where is the tweet?

Not forthcoming. Anyway how does a tweet trump a private forum post, or a chat with a man and dog on Constitution Street?

[Lago]

Two months ffs We are jinxed


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By the time he's fully fit his loan period will be nearly up, the first 6 month break period anyway 😩

[Highwayman]

Reference Scott Allan being linked with Dundee.

If James McPake hasn’t learned his lesson by now on recruiting his old mates,he surely will, when he gets sacked following Dundee’s relegation.

[w pilton hibby]

Reference Scott Allan being linked with Dundee.

If James McPake hasn’t learned his lesson by now on recruiting his old mates,he surely will, when he gets sacked following Dundee’s relegation.

The Courier now saying Dundee are interested in Doidge.

[hibee-boys]

Reference Scott Allan being linked with Dundee.

If James McPake hasn’t learned his lesson by now on recruiting his old mates,he surely will, when he gets sacked following Dundee’s relegation.

The Courier saying they’re after Doidge as well🤔

[Billy Whizz]

The Courier now saying Dundee are interested in Doidge.

Surely we’re not allowing Christian to leave?

[Callum_62]

Surely we’re not allowing Christian to leave?I'd be very surpised if that were the case

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[Hibee Mac]

No way we are selling or loaning Doidge to anyone. He's our best striker when fit

[Billy Whizz]

No way we are selling or loaning Doidge to anyone. He's our best striker when fit

Article says he wants more 1st team football

[Since452]

The Courier now saying Dundee are interested in Doidge.

Probably in the same way we're interested in Mbappe.

[Waxy]

Leigh Griffiths released by Celtic

Haymaker?

[Ronniekirk]

By the time he's fully fit his loan period will be nearly up, the first 6 month break period anyway [emoji30]

He was.a Signing I was looking forward to seeing and with three games a week and suspensions it’s leaving us with a defensive headache


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[Ronniekirk]

Article says he wants more 1st team football

He has certainly been used sparingly since he returned to squad when he needs game time to get match fit


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[Hibs90]

This is going to be a transfer window where we have strengthen the squad then some leave and in terms of numbers we’re not any better off isn’t it?

[BoomtownHibees]

This is going to be a transfer window where we have strengthen the squad then some leave and in terms of numbers we’re not any better off isn’t it?

No

[Highwayman]

Article says he wants more 1st team football

Thought the reason Doidge wasn’t starting and getting much game time was that he wasn’t a 100% fit from what was quite a serious injury.

Can’t see how a move to Dundee would enhance his career.

[J-C]

Thought the reason Doidge wasn’t starting and getting much game time was that he wasn’t a 100% fit from what was quite a serious injury.

Can’t see how a move to Dundee would enhance his career.

Maybe Maloney doesn't fancy him and told him he's not wanted.

[Since452]

I'd rather loan Nisbet to Dundee and keep Doidge here.

[flash]

Maybe Maloney doesn't fancy him and told him he's not wanted.

I think there's a chance Maloney wants 3 interchangeable fast forwards on the park.

[hibee-boys]

Surely we’re not allowing Christian to leave?

I agree, I really hope we’re not trying to change too much too quickly🤔

[keep the faith]

I'd rather loan Nisbet to Dundee and keep Doidge here.

Yep. Letting Doidge or Allan (or both) go would be crazy. Both have way to much to offer us.

[Callum_62]

Yep. Letting Doidge or Allan (or both) go would be crazy. Both have way to much to offer us.Don't agree on Allan but wouldn't want us to lose Doidge

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[J-C]

I think there's a chance Maloney wants 3 interchangeable fast forwards on the park.

That's my take on it but remember Lukaku for Belgium isn't he's a big lump but a lot more talented than Doidge.

[H18 SFR]

I think there's a chance Maloney wants 3 interchangeable fast forwards on the park.

Doidge is anything but fast but if you had two speed merchants up in a three with him he’d find the space to play his game and contribute.

[lord bunberry]

I reckon the Doidge story is nonsense. It would be a mistake to let him go out on loan and it would be worrying if it happened.

[Hibee Mac]

The only reason he's not getting game time is he's just back from a major injury. This sounds like a made up story from someone who doesn't realise why he's been out the team for a while.

[The 90+2]

The only reason he's not getting game time is he's just back from a major injury. This sounds like a made up story from someone who doesn't realise why he's been out the team for a while.

That's guesswork tbf. I really hope you're right mind you. Giving Doidge away at this stage of the season would be silly unless he's seriously not part of the plans.

[Hibbyradge]

Article says he wants more 1st team football

Sounds like sheite.

He's recovering from being injured.

Plus, I expect we'd want a substantial fee for him.