Winter 2021-22 transfer thread

[IberianHibernian]

It is not small minded. I consider myself to be a fairly intelligent individual. I still want us to pump the Jambo's more than I want us to pump St Mirren, or, anyone else. I think you are on a hiding to nothing with this argument... Just sayin likePresuming you live in the Borders , doubt you`ll be too stressed if we ever slip up against Hearts or any other team ( I say that knowing the Borders ) . Hearts like Hibs are not a great deal in the Borders . So nothing about hiding to nothing ..

[bordergreen]

Presuming you live in the Borders , doubt you`ll be too stressed if we ever slip up against Hearts or any other team ( I say that knowing the Borders ) . Hearts like Hibs are not a great deal in the Borders . So nothing about hiding to nothing ..

I grew up in Edinburgh. I went to Fox Covert School, watched Mickey Weir scoring for the school team, as well as for the team I love. I also went to St Mary's Leith and Holy Cross Primary School's. Every Hibs fan has their own level of feeling for the club. Make no assumptions about my location, and feeling for the club. I bleed green.

[JohnM1875]

Chat over on the hearts forum that Charles-Cook has agreed a deal with us and a player going in the other direction. Not sure what player and it could be complete bull!

[Jamesconnolly]

Presuming you live in the Borders , doubt you`ll be too stressed if we ever slip up against Hearts or any other team ( I say that knowing the Borders ) . Hearts like Hibs are not a great deal in the Borders . So nothing about hiding to nothing ..

You don't know the borders mate. Hibs and hearts are well supported down here and a Derby defeat is worse than any other

[Jones28]

Chat over on the hearts forum that Charles-Cook has agreed a deal with us and a player going in the other direction. Not sure what player and it could be complete bull!

I would love it if they ***** were right 🤣

[J-C]

Chat over on the hearts forum that Charles-Cook has agreed a deal with us and a player going in the other direction. Not sure what player and it could be complete bull!


Talk earlier somewhere on this thread of possibly Gogic and some cash for Cook.

[IberianHibernian]

I grew up in Edinburgh. I went to Fox Covert School, watched Mickey Weir scoring for the school team, as well as for the team I love. I also went to St Mary's Leith and Holy Cross Primary School's. Every Hibs fan has their own level of feeling for the club. Make no assumptions about my location, and feeling for the club. I bleed green.Apologies if you thought I was doubting your feeling for our club . We have a lot in common . I was born in Borders but haven`t lived there for many years but know there are many passionate Hibbies who live there . Having lived many years far from the Borders or Edinburgh I`m only too aware that location means nothing when you`re a Hibbie . Watching Hibs in a friendly still means much more to me than watching any Spanish team but I have the advantage of not knowing any Jambos - disappointed you have to suffer them at work etc .

[500miles]

A derby comeback saved Duffy and eventually relegated us.
A derby missed penalty lost us a game against Hearts and got Fenlon sacked and butcher in. We got relegated.
Hearts beat us, and Levein stayed in a job for another few weeks, leading to relegation.

A lot of people worry more about their rivals than their own club and its damaging.

[IberianHibernian]

You don't know the borders mate. Hibs and hearts are well supported down here and a Derby defeat is worse than any otherYou`re right . I was born in borders but haven`t lived there for many years . I know we have a lot of fans in borders , wasn`t so sure about Hearts so was surprised that any Hibby there might be bothered about slagging from Hearts fans at work after a Derby upset . Anyway , hopefully we`ll all be celebrating a Derby win wherever we live on Tuesday .

[Callum_62]

Chat over on the hearts forum that Charles-Cook has agreed a deal with us and a player going in the other direction. Not sure what player and it could be complete bull!Would that be our Boyle replacement?

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[JohnM1875]

Would that be our Boyle replacement?

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Going by what Maloney has said the past few days I'd imagine it would be, aye.

[Iain G]

Would that be our Boyle replacement?

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Only if we can't agree terms with Raphina or Adama Traore 😁

[Phil MaGlass]

You don't know the borders mate. Hibs and hearts are well supported down here and a Derby defeat is worse than any other

all bloody tory voters and yoonionists, thats all yi need tae know.:greengrin

[Crunchie]

It’s daft. Small minded tribalism.
Lppk around you on Tuesday night and observe the behaviour of your fellow Hibby's, let it sink in and do the same for the games against everyone else.

Then come on here and tell us who's small minded.

[Brightside]

It is not small minded. I consider myself to be a fairly intelligent individual. I still want us to pump the Jambo's more than I want us to pump St Mirren, or, anyone else. I think you are on a hiding to nothing with this argument... Just sayin like

The 6 games we didn’t win under Jack would have had us in clear 3rd place. That’s much more important than beating ONE team. That’s the difference between a top team and a mid table. A mind set that beating one team is what counts is a negative mindset. It’s why they beat us more than we beat them. They and their fans go out expecting to win almost all games. Gaining the bragging rights over a derby is an outcome of that different attitude.

[Brightside]

Lppk around you on Tuesday night and observe the behaviour of your fellow Hibby's, let it sink in and do the same for the games against everyone else.

Then come on here and tell us who's small minded.

You are proving my point. That attitude on a Tuesday night should be the same against Livi. That level of intensity from the fans and the players would make us a much more successful club.

[FilipinoHibs]

You don't know the borders mate. Hibs and hearts are well supported down here and a Derby defeat is worse than any other

Agree.Agree. I am from Hawick and lots of Hibs fans there. We used to run busses to games home and away. Went to Fairs cup games against Leeds in Leeds on one. In the late 60s/70s Hearts were a joke and we took it for granted we would beat them. Celtic and Rangers were the biggest challenges. But still took great delight in pumping them. After ther 17 and 22 in a row and miss spending I love when we beat them and in despair if we loose.

[Steven79]

You are proving my point. That attitude on a Tuesday night should be the same against Livi. That level of intensity from the fans and the players would make us a much more successful club.It's the same with the Scotland national team.

We always put so much effort into playing England (67 and last year)

It's not healthy and counterproductive.

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[Crunchie]

You are proving my point. That attitude on a Tuesday night should be the same against Livi. That level of intensity from the fans and the players would make us a much more successful club.
Do you really react the same way to a goal against Livi as you would Hearts?

I agree with you to an extent about the intensity part but that mindset should apply to the players as well, unfortunately for seem reason it doesn't, why don't you ask Captain Fantastic why that is?

[LeithMike]

You are proving my point. That attitude on a Tuesday night should be the same against Livi. That level of intensity from the fans and the players would make us a much more successful club.Yep, the intensity around El Classico has certainly held Barca and Real back.

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[Weir07]

The 6 games we didn’t win under Jack would have had us in clear 3rd place. That’s much more important than beating ONE team. That’s the difference between a top team and a mid table. A mind set that beating one team is what counts is a negative mindset. It’s why they beat us more than we beat them. They and their fans go out expecting to win almost all games. Gaining the bragging rights over a derby is an outcome of that different attitude.

Clearly it's more important to accumulate the most points possible over a season than any individual game but I don't think there are many fans that don't take more pleasure out of beating their derby rivals than any other team.

[Brightside]

Do you really react the same way to a goal against Livi as you would Hearts?

I agree with you to an extent about the intensity part but that mindset should apply to the players as well, unfortunately for seem reason it doesn't, why don't you ask Captain Fantastic why that is?

I totally agree. We have some players who only perform against the top teams. Yet can go out and be dreadful against Livi. That’s the biggest change required at our club. We should be wanting to pump Livi and we should have 15000 home fans desperate for that to happen.

[GordonHFC]

McGrath's agent was touting him between Hibs and Aberdeen going back and forward seeking more money but he wanted too much so he went down south. Found out nobody there wanted him and came back to Hibs with his tail between his legs. Hibs told him to bolt.

[Brightside]

Yep, the intensity around El Classico has certainly held Barca and Real back.

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Ha. And as soon as we can be as consistent as those teams we will all be happy

[Crunchie]

McGrath's agent was touting him between Hibs and Aberdeen going back and forward seeking more money but he wanted too much so he went down south. Found out nobody there wanted him and came back to Hibs with his tail between his legs. Hibs told him to bolt.
Have we told him to bolt?

[Crunchie]

It's the same with the Scotland national team.

We always put so much effort into playing England (67 and last year)

It's not healthy and counterproductive.

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It's called human nature, and fyi Scotland have an incredible H to H record against Engerlund.

[Crunchie]

I totally agree. We have some players who only perform against the top teams. Yet can go out and be dreadful against Livi. That’s the biggest change required at our club. We should be wanting to pump Livi and we should have 15000 home fans desperate for that to happen.
:agree: :greengrin

[LeithMike]

Ha. And as soon as we can be as consistent as those teams we will all be happyIn all seriousness, every team's fans are up for more games than others. If you can get yourself in a title race where very game matters then the fans are then up for every game. I still remember the Mcleish promotion season when we got 15,000 against Ayr. I think the glass ceiling in the Premiership affects clubs like ours.

It's the manager's job to get the players up for every game regardless of fans. Nobody did this better than Fergie.

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[IncredibleHibee]

Presuming you live in the Borders , doubt you`ll be too stressed if we ever slip up against Hearts or any other team ( I say that knowing the Borders ) . Hearts like Hibs are not a great deal in the Borders . So nothing about hiding to nothing ..

lol

[SloopJB]

Chat over on the hearts forum that Charles-Cook has agreed a deal with us and a player going in the other direction. Not sure what player and it could be complete bull!

Admins…
Could this post be moved to the transfer thread?

[Weir07]

Admins…
Could this post be moved to the transfer thread?

There can be a lot of guff on .net but there are some genuinely funny moments! 😁

[Dazzjw1875]

I fully expect neither Gogic or Charles cook to be in their squads today.

[JimBHibees]

Admins…
Could this post be moved to the transfer thread?

:greengrin

[JimBHibees]

I fully expect neither Gogic or Charles cook to be in their squads today.

Have you heard he is signing?

[Dazzjw1875]

Have you heard he is signing?

Nothing from what I posted a while back which was Gogic going to county with cash and Charles Cook heading to us, still think it'll happen.

[BILLYHIBS]

Jeando Fuchs Arabs sold to Peterborough for a six figure sum

Apologies if already posted

[JimBHibees]

Nothing from what I posted a while back which was Gogic going to county with cash and Charles Cook heading to us, still think it'll happen.

Ok cheers

[keep the faith]

BBC reporting Maloney wants to keep Allan. Hope that's true, but the article (in the record) is not as clear cut as that.
Unfortunately I still think he will go to Killie.
Mind you, if we can't throw him on when their is space galore against cove or in a match where we have no shots at goal then I wouldn't blame Scott for going.
Still living in hope he gets some starts and turns things round here. With all these runners in our team, surely there is space for a man who absolutely guarantees assists??

[Billy Whizz]

BBC reporting Maloney wants to keep Allan. Hope that's true, but the article (in the record) is not as clear cut as that.
Unfortunately I still think he will go to Killie.
Mind you, if we can't throw him on when their is space galore against cove or in a match where we have no shots at goal then I wouldn't blame Scott for going.
Still living in hope he gets some starts and turns things round here. With all these runners in our team, surely there is space for a man who absolutely guarantees assists??

Why keep him if he’s not going to play him

[Ronniekirk]

BBC reporting Maloney wants to keep Allan. Hope that's true, but the article (in the record) is not as clear cut as that.
Unfortunately I still think he will go to Killie.
Mind you, if we can't throw him on when their is space galore against cove or in a match where we have no shots at goal then I wouldn't blame Scott for going.
Still living in hope he gets some starts and turns things round here. With all these runners in our team, surely there is space for a man who absolutely guarantees assists??

Think there is an element of Maloney saying the right things snd if he goes then he isn’t to blame
But by not bringing him on in these two games as a sub it’s sending out a clear message to him that he will struggle for game time
Can’t see him being happy to stay


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[bingo70]

Why keep him if he’s not going to play him

Can’t play everyone Billy.

Argument for keeping him just in case we need him.

[Unseen work]

Looking from the outside in I think when Maloney first joined he knew how good a player Allan was and was probably curious why he was hardly playing.

He then see’s him in training and is impressed so starts him against Aberdeen where he contributed absolutely nothing and from that point it’s made sense to him.

I think he’s just saying the right thing in the press until it’s finalised he’s leaving.

[Billy Whizz]

Can’t play everyone Billy.

Argument for keeping him just in case we need him.

I know that Bingo, just seems strange to have players in the squad that don’t play very often, Allan, Gogic, Mackie and Bradley etc

[J-C]

Why keep him if he’s not going to play him

Just about to say the same Billy, a strange way of wanting to keep a player by not playing him, I'd have thought Allan would be perfect for Maloney type football.

[Unseen work]

Nothing from what I posted a while back which was Gogic going to county with cash and Charles Cook heading to us, still think it'll happen.

And is he Boyles replacement? Or are we likely to see anyone else?

[LaMotta]

BBC reporting Maloney wants to keep Allan. Hope that's true, but the article (in the record) is not as clear cut as that.
Unfortunately I still think he will go to Killie.
Mind you, if we can't throw him on when their is space galore against cove or in a match where we have no shots at goal then I wouldn't blame Scott for going.
Still living in hope he gets some starts and turns things round here. With all these runners in our team, surely there is space for a man who absolutely guarantees assists??


:agree: struggling to breakdown stuffy defences 2 games in a row, crying out for someone who can create something out of nothing and the one guy we have on the bench that can do that isn't called upon? :dunno:

[CockneyRebel]

BBC reporting Maloney wants to keep Allan. Hope that's true, but the article (in the record) is not as clear cut as that.
Unfortunately I still think he will go to Killie.
Mind you, if we can't throw him on when their is space galore against cove or in a match where we have no shots at goal then I wouldn't blame Scott for going.
Still living in hope he gets some starts and turns things round here. With all these runners in our team, surely there is space for a man who absolutely guarantees assists??

Not sure that's a given any more, unfortunately.

[keep the faith]

Not sure that's a given any more, unfortunately.

Done it most time he has been involved this season.
There won't be many players in the league with the ratio of minutes/chances created that Scott Allan has. I can't get my head round us not utilising him more.

[Brightside]

Done it most time he has been involved this season.
There won't be many players in the league with the ratio of minutes/chances created that Scott Allan has. I can't get my head round us not utilising him more.

He doesn’t bring enough to the rest of the game.

[Callum_62]

Let's see where Scott Allan ends up after us

I'd be very surprised if we find out he can still perform at this level

Hes talented but hes so far off the rest of the game now IMHO

Sad to see but I'd have no issues getting rid

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[Dazzjw1875]

And is he Boyles replacement? Or are we likely to see anyone else?

I honestly don't know but I reckon he is holding SA back from leaving just now as he will be looking for a creative mid that can carry the ball forward. I expect 3-4 still to leave and atleast another 2 incoming.

[BS44]

BBC reporting Maloney wants to keep Allan. Hope that's true, but the article (in the record) is not as clear cut as that.
Unfortunately I still think he will go to Killie.
Mind you, if we can't throw him on when their is space galore against cove or in a match where we have no shots at goal then I wouldn't blame Scott for going.
Still living in hope he gets some starts and turns things round here. With all these runners in our team, surely there is space for a man who absolutely guarantees assists??

Could Allan end up at Aberdeen or become a blooded turd wearer? If the answer is no, and it is, then he is no longer at our level unfortunately.

[brog]

Looking from the outside in I think when Maloney first joined he knew how good a player Allan was and was probably curious why he was hardly playing.

He then see’s him in training and is impressed so starts him against Aberdeen where he contributed absolutely nothing and from that point it’s made sense to him.

I think he’s just saying the right thing in the press until it’s finalised he’s leaving.
To add to this I think he knows Scott well and he's been giving players he's less familiar with a chance. Having said that I still don't know why he didn't bring him on against Cove.

[B.H.F.C]

He doesn’t bring enough to the rest of the game.

I know the debate has been done to death but I think there’s been one really bad performance in a game he’s started. The rest, we’ve been good and he’s contributed. It’s made out as if the team need to carry him and will capitulate if he’s playing but it’s no really been the case, even if it’s now obvious his time is up.

[Since452]

Could Allan end up at Aberdeen or become a blooded turd wearer? If the answer is no, and it is, then he is no longer at our level unfortunately.

Good point. Allan was a brilliant player for us but not anymore. He'd be one of the first I'd be moving on to free up wages. If he was lining up against us I'd be confident.

[Steven79]

Good point. Allan was a brilliant player for us but not anymore. He'd be one of the first I'd be moving on to free up wages.

He's probably one of our highest earners as well.

[keep the faith]

Let's see where Scott Allan ends up after us

I'd be very surprised if we find out he can still perform at this level

Hes talented but hes so far off the rest of the game now IMHO

Sad to see but I'd have no issues getting rid

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Tell you what. Bet he tears it up if he starts regularly for his new team. Feel free to quote this in the future if he fails.

[Borderhibbie76]

As a fan base we really need to get over the Scott Allan issue - sad as it is he is nowhere near our level now - yes he will play the odd pass but the games he's started this season he's been largely anonymous - and it's teams like Dundee and Killie wanting to sign him. I loved Scotty Allan too but those days are gone I'm afraid

[Since452]

As a fan base we really need to get over the Scott Allan issue - sad as it is he is nowhere near our level now - yes he will play the odd pass but the games he's started this season he's been largely anonymous - and it's teams like Dundee and Killie wanting to sign him. I loved Scotty Allan too but those days are gone I'm afraid

It was summed up for me when a poster said he almost played a brilliant pass against someone. Aberdeen I think. Almost isn't what we need sadly.

[Latapy'sVolley]

As a fan base we really need to get over the Scott Allan issue - sad as it is he is nowhere near our level now - yes he will play the odd pass but the games he's started this season he's been largely anonymous - and it's teams like Dundee and Killie wanting to sign him. I loved Scotty Allan too but those days are gone I'm afraid

I think it's pretty fair to say that although he may not fit into a high pressing team (and why he was less effective at ER against Aberdeen), he's a real asset off the bench when the other team is tiring (as we saw against St Johnstone away) and that vision in the last 20 minutes is what we've needed the last couple of games.

But it'll be his decision whether he's happy with that, and Maloney's if he wants to utilise Allan that way or not.

[Callum_62]

It was summed up for me when a poster said he almost played a brilliant pass against someone. Aberdeen I think. Almost isn't what we need sadly.This in a nut shell

Almost anything decent he does is talked up like its out of this universe

I loved Scott Allan of old but he's no where near the same player now

Wish him every success going forward though

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[Tobias Funke]

It was summed up for me when a poster said he almost played a brilliant pass against someone. Aberdeen I think. Almost isn't what we need sadly.

As much as I like Scott and admire his talent he is overrated by some of the Hibs support. To me he’s on a par with Liam Miller who was a similar type of midfielder, creative and dynamic but blew hot and cold.

The best midfielder I have seen in my lifetime supporting Hibs is Latapy, some of our younger fans won’t appreciate just how good this guy was, played more killer passes than Allan and rarely lost the football to the opposition. A player who’d have you on your feet with his skill. Latapy would do this on a consistent basis, Scott only occasionally. That’s the type of player we need just now. If Scott goes it’s with my best wishes and hopefully we see him back at the club one day as a coach or maybe more.

[FitbaFolkKen]

You watch Allan’s highlight reel from 19/20 and you can appreciate just how good he was.

He deserves to play football and if it isn’t with us let him go to a level where he can thrive. The championship may be the answer so he has a little more time on the ball to make some magic, lower end top flight the teams may be too focussed on defence. Before he came to us for Bain he had been in and out of the Dundee team, likely because of their defensive setup.

If anyone fancies reminiscing

https://youtu.be/KVgIA-PJ5Bg

The through balls against Rangers and Aberdeen were very special.


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[Daydreamer]

As much as I like Scott and admire his talent he is overrated by some of the Hibs support. To me he’s on a par with Liam Miller who was a similar type of midfielder, creative and dynamic but blew hot and cold.

The best midfielder I have seen in my lifetime supporting Hibs is Latapy, some of our younger fans won’t appreciate just how good this guy was, played more killer passes than Allan and rarely lost the football to the opposition. A player who’d have you on your feet with his skill. Latapy would do this on a consistent basis, Scott only occasionally. That’s the type of player we need just now. If Scott goes it’s with my best wishes and hopefully we see him back at the club one day as a coach or maybe more.


Did you not see John McGinn?????

[Crunchie]

Did you not see John McGinn?????
Different kinds of midfielder, I loved SJM but Latapy was something special and could influence games more often and in a different way than SJM.
Allan is a poor mans Latapy imo.

[Callum_62]

Different kinds of midfielder, I loved SJM but Latapy was something special and could influence games more often and in a different way than SJM.
Allan is a poor mans Latapy imo.Latapy and Sauzee were easily the e classiest players we have had

Russell on his game was literally unplayable

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[gaz1875]

As much as I like Scott and admire his talent he is overrated by some of the Hibs support. To me he’s on a par with Liam Miller who was a similar type of midfielder, creative and dynamic but blew hot and cold.

The best midfielder I have seen in my lifetime supporting Hibs is Latapy, some of our younger fans won’t appreciate just how good this guy was, played more killer passes than Allan and rarely lost the football to the opposition. A player who’d have you on your feet with his skill. Latapy would do this on a consistent basis, Scott only occasionally. That’s the type of player we need just now. If Scott goes it’s with my best wishes and hopefully we see him back at the club one day as a coach or maybe more.

Couldn't agree more with all the above.

[Daydreamer]

Different kinds of midfielder, I loved SJM but Latapy was something special and could influence games more often and in a different way than SJM.
Allan is a poor mans Latapy imo.


Aye, he was good when he was lying drunk in his room the morning of the Scottish Cup Final against Celtic. Parasite!!!

[18Craig75]

I think it's pretty fair to say that although he may not fit into a high pressing team (and why he was less effective at ER against Aberdeen), he's a real asset off the bench when the other team is tiring (as we saw against St Johnstone away) and that vision in the last 20 minutes is what we've needed the last couple of games.

But it'll be his decision whether he's happy with that, and Maloney's if he wants to utilise Allan that way or not.

Everyone always harks back to the St Johnstone game. For every 20 minute cameo like that there’s another 5 where he’s been totally ineffective.

One of my favourite Hibs players to watch in recent times, but unfortunately due to a number of reasons, he’s not at our level anymore.

[CentreLine]

Latapy and Sauzee were easily the e classiest players we have had

Russell on his game was literally unplayable

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Great thing about football teams is they keep regenerating like Dr Who. So every generation has their class acts. Well most do…

Both RL and FS were incredible. Definitely amongst our best ever in my view. However, I’d give you Willie Hamilton, Joe Baker, Alec Edwards or Alex Cropley. Maybe even Des Bremner.

[Callum_62]

Charles Cook starts for Ross County

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[Eyrie]

Did you not see John McGinn?????

I saw both and, although they were very different types of player, it would be Latapy every day for me.

They'd be one hell of a pairing though.

[Stuart93]

What is it with hearts’ new signings and talking about hibs. It’s every single one of them. Utterly bizarre

[FilipinoHibs]

Great thing about football teams is they keep regenerating like Dr Who. So every generation has their class acts. Well most do…

Both RL and FS were incredible. Definitely amongst our best ever in my view. However, I’d give you Willie Hamilton, Joe Baker, Alec Edwards or Alex Cropley. Maybe even Des Bremner.

+ Riordan, Stanton.

[Stuart93]

Also reading Aberdeen could be going back for McGrath

No doubt he’d be another signing they “beat hibs to”

[Libby Hibby]

What is it with hearts’ new signings and talking about hibs. It’s every single one of them. Utterly bizarre

It’s a pre-requisite of any news story, their obsession is creepy, bordering on stalking…strange bunch

[Keyser Sauzee]

You watch Allan’s highlight reel from 19/20 and you can appreciate just how good he was.

He deserves to play football and if it isn’t with us let him go to a level where he can thrive. The championship may be the answer so he has a little more time on the ball to make some magic, lower end top flight the teams may be too focussed on defence. Before he came to us for Bain he had been in and out of the Dundee team, likely because of their defensive setup.

If anyone fancies reminiscing

https://youtu.be/KVgIA-PJ5Bg

The through balls against Rangers and Aberdeen were very special.


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I don’t think he got anywhere near enough credit for his performances and stats for that season, he was brilliant for us until Covid hit.

[LaMotta]

Let's see where Scott Allan ends up after us

I'd be very surprised if we find out he can still perform at this level

Hes talented but hes so far off the rest of the game now IMHO

Sad to see but I'd have no issues getting rid

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It's a problem getting rid of him when players like Drey Wright, James Scott and Campbell are still seen as solutions to breaking down the opposition.

He shouldn't be starting every game but his influence on a number of games this season has been huge - particularly Dun Utd quarter final, St Johnstone away win, St Mirren at home. All recent proof that he can still perform at this level.

[keep the faith]

It's a problem getting rid of him when players like Drey Wright, James Scott and Campbell are still seen as solutions to breaking down the opposition.

He shouldn't be starting every game but his influence on a number of games this season has been huge - particularly Dun Utd quarter final, St Johnstone away win, St Mirren at home. All recent proof that he can still perform at this level.

Absolutely.

[Gordy M]

It's a problem getting rid of him when players like Drey Wright, James Scott and Campbell are still seen as solutions to breaking down the opposition.

He shouldn't be starting every game but his influence on a number of games this season has been huge - particularly Dun Utd quarter final, St Johnstone away win, St Mirren at home. All recent proof that he can still perform at this level.

Who says we are 'getting rid' of him? As you say, he shouldnt be starting every game....maybe Scott Allan wants to start every game? Hence the reason we are 'allowing' him to find another club?

[percy veer]

Aye, he was good when he was lying drunk in his room the morning of the Scottish Cup Final against Celtic. Parasite!!!

Still would have done a job , get a grip man

[The Harp Awakes]

Also reading Aberdeen could be going back for McGrath

No doubt he’d be another signing they “beat hibs to”

They'll be going back in for him because they'll have read Hibs had again been linked with him. Aberdeen are getting as bad as the jambos trying to upstage Hibs. They both seem to be obsessed with us.

[Allant1981]

Aye, he was good when he was lying drunk in his room the morning of the Scottish Cup Final against Celtic. Parasite!!!

Was he not already dropped by then after the drinking incident with dwight yorke or am i imagining that? Despite how his time ended with us he is easily the best creative midfielder ive seen at the club

[HoboHarry]

Was he not already dropped by then after the drinking incident with dwight yorke or am i imagining that? Despite how his time ended with us he is easily the best creative midfielder ive seen at the club

You are correct, though IIRC he was sacked the week prior to the final. Don't think he was our player any more on the day of the final.

[ancient hibee]

T
Latapy and Sauzee were easily the e classiest players we have had

Russell on his game was literally unplayable

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In modern times I’m sure you mean.

[jacomo]

Think there is an element of Maloney saying the right things snd if he goes then he isn’t to blame
But by not bringing him on in these two games as a sub it’s sending out a clear message to him that he will struggle for game time
Can’t see him being happy to stay


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Yes I think this is correct.

Scott will be allowed to go if wants to.

[Mantis Toboggan]

Latapy and Sauzee were easily the e classiest players we have had

Russell on his game was literally unplayable

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Not even a controversial opinion. Don't think we will ever see that quality again.

[Ozyhibby]

Not even a controversial opinion. Don't think we will ever see that quality again.

Just as well as they nearly bankrupted us.[emoji23]


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[jacomo]

Not even a controversial opinion. Don't think we will ever see that quality again.


If you are talking about this century, yes. Both were fabulous for us (until unforced drinking and enforced retirement).

But Hibs have had better players before, and we may do so again.

[Itsnoteasy]

Aye, he was good when he was lying drunk in his room the morning of the Scottish Cup Final against Celtic. Parasite!!!

At least he was lying in his room drunk. Boyle & Newell decided to take their cars for a spin whilst pished.

[keep the faith]

Take a look at the responses from the hibs net experts earlier in this thread when some of us have suggested omeonga being perfect in this hibs side.

Hope they are watching him bossing us today.

[easty]

Take a look at the responses from the hibs net experts earlier in this thread when some of us have suggested omeonga being perfect in this hibs side.

Hope they are watching him bossing us today.

To be fair, it’s easy to look good when you’re up against a central midfield who aren’t doing anything. JDH and Campbell have been a disgrace today. An absolute disgrace. Hiding. Fighting for nothing. Seeing the game out from the first minute just hoping they don’t have to do anything.

[keep the faith]

To be fair, it’s easy to look good when you’re up against a central midfield who aren’t doing anything. JDH and Campbell have been a disgrace today. An absolute disgrace. Hiding. Fighting for nothing. Seeing the game out from the first minute just hoping they don’t have to do anything.

Exactly. The opposite of Omeonga who is a teams heartbeat and dictates the fast pace.

[B.H.F.C]

Summer window was bad. This one has been worse. We’ve done absolutely **** all to sort our problems.

[Unseen work]

Did anyone notice Omeonga first half?

Was only at 3-2 he looked really good imo.

[CMac1988]

Did anyone notice Omeonga first half?

Was only at 3-2 he looked really good imo.

Never seen Campbell or JDH either half. Henderson was nowhere to be for the most part also.

[Nicho87]

Henderson - should he not have been announced as a B Team signing. Looks young an light for me anyway.

[Hibiza]

Macey , JDH , Campbell and the usual Nisbet , take a break .

[Heisenberg]

Macey , JDH , Campbell and the usual Nisbet , take a break .

Nisbet was fine today.

[Callum_62]

Nisbet was fine today.He was better than fine compared to his recent showings

He done well for me today

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[easty]

Macey , JDH , Campbell and the usual Nisbet , take a break .

Nisbet was unlucky not to get a goal today, worked hard as ****, covered a **** ton of ground.

[Is It On....]

Summer window was bad. This one has been worse. We’ve done absolutely **** all to sort our problems.

Who is in charge of recruitment since Mathie left?

[CMac1988]

I've been critical of Nisbet of the last few months but he done everything expected of him today other than score. Continually having to drop back and do the work of 3 others tells everyone with eyes has know all season. Our midfield is crap.

[SHODAN]

So who can we bring in to fix this?

[Callum_62]

So who can we bring in to fix this?Dick Campbell

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[The 90+2]

Who is in charge of recruitment since Mathie left?


Rons laddie :faf::faf::faf:

[Nicho87]

Cathro, would be something of a sideways pass….. move sorry.

[Ronniekirk]

Who is in charge of recruitment since Mathie left?
Good point Ian Gordon brought Muller in Ben credited with the two guys from Norway ( assuming the second one signs )
Maloney wanted Mitchel and Rocky So no idea

[tonyrougier123]

Take a look at the responses from the hibs net experts earlier in this thread when some of us have suggested omeonga being perfect in this hibs side.

Hope they are watching him bossing us today.

I was told it was a minority liked omeonga ?? Seen an awful lot of names showing him appreciation now. Class wee player.

[Juice-Terry]

JDH, Campbell, and dare I say it, Newell, all need replacing pronto!

[CD69]

Anyone heard anything about Regan Charles-Cook signing for us? Seen it on Twitter

[7heaven]

Did anyone notice Omeonga first half?

Was only at 3-2 he looked really good imo.

Thought 1st. Half omeonga absolutely schooled Henderson.

[number9dream]

Who is in charge of recruitment since Mathie left?

It looks like Ron’s strategy is recruiting a bunch of untested youths, hoping one or two can be sold on for big money. Fine in principle, but it appears that we have taken our eye off actually improving the current first team.
A signing on Monday like McGrath would help, while another striker with pedigree would be a nice bonus.

[A Hi-Bee]

Dick Campbell

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Kin he play CM and spray passes around? get him if he can, we need someone like that.

[MWHIBBIES]

JDH, Campbell, and dare I say it, Newell, all need replacing pronto!

Newell is by far our best midfielder. Seen today how vital he is. And Paul Hanlon.

Rocky is ambrose without the ability. Mueller is horgan without pace.

[overdrive]

Henderson - should he not have been announced as a B Team signing. Looks young an light for me anyway.

He definitely shouldn’t be starting.

[thebausburst]

Newell is by far our best midfielder. Seen today how vital he is. And Paul Hanlon.

Rocky is ambrose without the ability. Mueller is horgan without pace.

The hype that surrounded Mueller has sadly proved unfounded looks pretty average.

[Callum_62]

Our central midfield should be Newell with a more forward thinking player

That should be set in stone

JDH offers very little overall for me

Campbell should be no where near our starting 11

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[Callum_62]

The hype that surrounded Mueller has sadly proved unfounded looks pretty average.1 MoM game,. 1 60min game in a gale and 30 mins today?

Bit early to write him off

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[LunasBoots]

So who can we bring in to fix this?

An experience forward thinking midfielder would be a start, and possibly a leader who can help the younger lads in the team.

[The 90+2]

Newell is by far our best midfielder. Seen today how vital he is. And Paul Hanlon.

Rocky is ambrose without the ability. Mueller is horgan without pace.


Our midfield is utter pap.

Rocky is good. Mueller I'll give time to. He's got a lot of expectation on him.

[WhileTheChief..]

Summer window was bad. This one has been worse. We’ve done absolutely **** all to sort our problems.

:top marksNot signed a single player where we've thought "nice one, he'll do a job".

Always in transition. It's total BS.

Not a popular thing to say here but it's going to take a change of manager and a big name in to win the fans back. This isn't going to work out.

[Hibs90]

Ron, Ben, Ian...

What are you doing? We are a shambles. Everything is a mess.

[tonyrougier123]

:top marksNot signed a single player where we've thought "nice one, he'll do a job".

Always in transition. It's total BS.

Not a popular thing to say here but it's going to take a change of manager and a big name in to win the fans back. This isn't going to work out.

10/10

[Libby Hibby]

Nisbet was fine today.

Thought he was good today also

[madhatter]

Absolutely no legs in midfield. No physicality and height throughout the team. Big window and we've wasted it buying more of the same type of players we're trying to get rid of.

Ron Gordon is going to get a dose of reality next season, our ST sales are going to plummet.

Buy strong combative players Hibs...

[Heisenberg]

I’d want us to sign a central midfielder before the close of the window but I doubt it’ll happen. Campbell, JDH and Newell haven’t been anywhere near it this season.

[kaimendhibs]

Joe Newell is our best midfielder at the moment. Kyle may come back and take over but calls for Joe to go are stupid. He fights for every ball, rarely gives it away, and unless no one noticed, after a good game on Wednesday he wasnt playing today. No point including him in the blame

[madhatter]

Joe Newell is our best midfielder at the moment. Kyle may come back and take over but calls for Joe to go are stupid. He fights for every ball, rarely gives it away, and unless no one noticed, after a good game on Wednesday he wasnt playing today. No point including him in the blame

He's also one of the biggest culprits at playing the ball backwards or sideways. We struggle to get out of our own half because our defenders can't pass to midfielders as they run towards own goal under pressure (because they have 0 pace to get space). We are shocking in the middle of the park, terrible. Newell in or out.

Omeonga looked better than Campbell, Henderson and JDH tonight. Considerably.

[Hibiza]

I’d want us to sign a central midfielder before the close of the window but I doubt it’ll happen. Campbell, JDH and Newell haven’t been anywhere near it this season.
👍

[Hibiza]

Newell just a robot. No offense robots.

[Callum_62]

Can't believe folk don't rate Newell as a footballer at our level

Crazy

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[The 90+2]

Can't believe folk don't rate Newell as a footballer at our level

Crazy

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He wouldn't get anywhere near the top 3. That's where we are coming down from.

Tidy player, inspirational, nah. If he's a defensive midfielder that's meant to let the better players play I would rather have the original Rocky under Mowbray. If he's a ball playing footballer he's too negative and if he's a creative midfielder we are ****ed.

[Hibiza]

Joe is a consistent square / back passer . His nose bleeds when it's forward.

[Ozyhibby]

Henderson - should he not have been announced as a B Team signing. Looks young an light for me anyway.

Good when he has the ball, lazy when he’s not got it.


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[Ozyhibby]

He was better than fine compared to his recent showings

He done well for me today

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I would have given man of the match.


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[JimBHibees]

Was he not already dropped by then after the drinking incident with dwight yorke or am i imagining that? Despite how his time ended with us he is easily the best creative midfielder ive seen at the club

Pretty sure he had left the club when that final was played. Missed a Derby after being out on the bevy

[GreenCastle]

Joe Newell is our best midfielder at the moment. Kyle may come back and take over but calls for Joe to go are stupid. He fights for every ball, rarely gives it away, and unless no one noticed, after a good game on Wednesday he wasnt playing today. No point including him in the blame

Newell isn’t a bad player but I just don’t think he can play in a 2 centrally. Especially with JDH who is basically a CDM. Newell doesn’t assist enough and doesn’t score enough either so you have 2 very similar players.

We either play 3 in middle or find a different player.

When Newell is on it he’s great but rarely runs the game for 90 mins.

I don’t get why we haven’t tried to find a SJM replacement (not saying they are easy to find - but a player with drive and gets the fans excited with positive runs - maybe Kyle was that player but his injuries just haven’t helped anyone.

[Crab apple]

I’d want us to sign a central midfielder before the close of the window but I doubt it’ll happen. Campbell, JDH and Newell haven’t been anywhere near it this season.

Agreed. All far too similar. We need an experienced player with drive and leadership.

[Hibi]

Can't believe folk don't rate Newell as a footballer at our level

Crazy

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It is crazy, think we massively missed him today. No surprise we never really had control of the game this afternoon with him missing. We’ll need him on Tuesday.

[easty]

He wouldn't get anywhere near the top 3. That's where we are coming down from.

Tidy player, inspirational, nah. If he's a defensive midfielder that's meant to let the better players play I would rather have the original Rocky under Mowbray. If he's a ball playing footballer he's too negative and if he's a creative midfielder we are ****ed.

He was a regular on the team who finished 3rd last season!

I dunno why he wasn’t starting today, but he’d have made a massive difference, cos he actually wants the ball. Unlike the imposters we had in the middle today. The defence could go long, wide, or play into the feet of Nisbet who’d come deep. When Nisbet came looking for it, I couldnae even work out where JDH or Campbell were. Posted missing the whole ****ing game.

It was like that from start to finish, and I blame Maloney, more than the 2 imposters, for sitting there and accepting it.

[Silky]

Good when he has the ball, lazy when he’s not got it.


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Sounds like Scott Allan.

[bigwheel]

Good when he has the ball, lazy when he’s not got it.


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I must have missed those good bits ..had a complete mare ….looks nothing like a starting 11 player

[Eyrie]

Newell is trying to be more positive both with the ball and when passing than he was under Ross. Doyle-Hayes is still wanting to play the same way.

I'm starting to think we need to play with three in midfield, even if one of them is in an advanced role. We simply don't have the right players to play with just two in the centre of the park.

[Ozyhibby]

I must have missed those good bits ..had a complete mare ….looks nothing like a starting 11 player

I agree.


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[S4uzee]

We will go nowhere with this midfield. JDH surely he gets bored passing it back the player he received it from. Our central 2 just stay in position, omeonga was everywhere today

[Crab apple]

Newell is by far our best midfielder. Seen today how vital he is. And Paul Hanlon.

Rocky is ambrose without the ability. Mueller is horgan without pace.

Newell and Hanlon were both awful in JR’s last game in charge at Livingston. That said, after watching today’s **** show, we definitely need them on Tuesday.

[The 90+2]

He was a regular on the team who finished 3rd last season!

I dunno why he wasn’t starting today, but he’d have made a massive difference, cos he actually wants the ball. Unlike the imposters we had in the middle today. The defence could go long, wide, or play into the feet of Nisbet who’d come deep. When Nisbet came looking for it, I couldnae even work out where JDH or Campbell were. Posted missing the whole ****ing game.

It was like that from start to finish, and I blame Maloney, more than the 2 imposters, for sitting there and accepting it.


He was, an there is no argument there. Teams improve/evolve and he wouldn't be near the first team of the top three the now.

Saying that he is still our best midfielder and keeps the ball moving generally. Nisbet was doing what he was in Ross' last few games in coming deep frustrated, people took that as him not playing well but he's been alright all season and even sitting there against Livi' last time he done the same and showed he cared. When our striker is coming deep it signals problems, usually lack of any creativity from behind him.

I'm not sure Maloney knows how to change a game of football rather than accept it. No plan B was what Everton fans claimed of Martinez also. Probably the Beligians when they fall behind also as in their last two tourneys. How he couldn't have seen in the 50th minute it was getting away from us bewilders me. Martingdale on the other hand is on the go 24/7 reading the game and managing his players. Actually really impressed with him today.

[The 90+2]

We will go nowhere with this midfield. JDH surely he gets bored passing it back the player he received it from. Our central 2 just stay in position, omeonga was everywhere today


Omeonga is a young player with a lot of talent.

He was coached from the side today to be the best player on the park.

[CapitalGreen]

Omeonga is a young player with a lot of talent.

He was coached from the side today to be the best player on the park.

I wonder if HibbyRadge will watch todays game back and count how many touches he had.

[BoomtownHibees]

Omeonga is a young player with a lot of talent.

He was coached from the side today to be the best player on the park.

He’s 25

[JimBHibees]

It is crazy, think we massively missed him today. No surprise we never really had control of the game this afternoon with him missing. We’ll need him on Tuesday.

Why would he not be playing today? Seemed very odd not to come on. May indicate he is being sold.

[BILLYHIBS]

Barca sign Adama Traore on loan from Wolves until the end of the season

BBC Sport

[keep the faith]

Joe is a consistent square / back passer . His nose bleeds when it's forward.

He is an intelligent and committed top player surrounded by rubbish. Build better round Joe is what we need to do.

[McD]

He is an intelligent and committed top player surrounded by rubbish. Build better round Joe is what we need to do.


can’t say I agree, he’s passive, no drive, rarely takes a grip of a game, rarely takes a ball on the half turn, far too many lazy passes going back or square.

[Callum_62]

can’t say I agree, he’s passive, no drive, rarely takes a grip of a game, rarely takes a ball on the half turn, far too many lazy passes going back or square.Must've missed the well game

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[J-C]

Newell offers too many bang average performances and not enough excellent ones, this could be said for the vast majority of these players.

[McD]

Must've missed the well game

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as opposed to every other game he’s played?

[JohnM1875]

Did anyone notice Omeonga first half?

Was only at 3-2 he looked really good imo.

Surely it isn't up for debate that Omeonga was the best CM on the pitch today?

[Callum_62]

as opposed to every other game he’s played?It's one of his few games with the new management team though, isn't it?

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[Springbank]

If jdh or newell play Tuesday it'll be 0-3 half time & I'll leave Mr maloney to suffer the second half taunting without me.

He will deserve it.

And so will our midfield

[McD]

It's one of his few games with the new management team though, isn't it?

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I think he’s played in 5 of the 6 matches under maloney, if you’re happy with playing well in 1 out of those 5, then fair enough

personally, I think he’s ponderous and does little to enhance our play. Fwiw, I also think doyle-hayes and Campbell have been just as poor

[Callum_62]

I think he’s played in 5 of the 6 matches under maloney, if you’re happy with playing well in 1 out of those 5, then fair enough

personally, I think he’s ponderous and does little to enhance our play. Fwiw, I also think doyle-hayes and Campbell have been just as poorHe's played 3 games

He was probably our best midfielder in 2 of them (can't really mind anyone from celtic Park)

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[McD]

He's played 3 games

He was probably our best midfielder in 2 of them (can't really mind anyone from celtic Park)

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That’s the louder than sooty contest, he's not exactly had any competition

Maybe he’ll come good with better players around him in midfield, but I just think he’s a major part of our struggles rather than helping to alleviate them

[Jones28]

Joe is a consistent square / back passer . His nose bleeds when it's forward.

That’s just nonsense. Some on here analysed his performance against cove the other and disproved your point entirely with the stats.

[Jones28]

If jdh or newell play Tuesday it'll be 0-3 half time & I'll leave Mr maloney to suffer the second half taunting without me.

He will deserve it.

And so will our midfield

And where are you conjuring up our missing midfielders from?

[Callum_62]

And where are you conjuring up our missing midfielders from?Goga and Allan midfield 2

[emoji23]

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[McD]

Goga and Allan midfield 2

[emoji23]

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exactly, as much as I’m not a fan of Newell, it shows how poor our options are in central midfield

[AlbertK86]

Joe Newell is our best midfielder at the moment. Kyle may come back and take over but calls for Joe to go are stupid. He fights for every ball, rarely gives it away, and unless no one noticed, after a good game on Wednesday he wasnt playing today. No point including him in the blame

Correct


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[I'm Spartacus]

Anyone worried? The window closes and we've not added any experience, 3, 4, 5 games come and go and we're up against it.

The Cove experience just fills me with fear.

**** **** ****.

****.

[AlbertK86]

If jdh or newell play Tuesday it'll be 0-3 half time & I'll leave Mr maloney to suffer the second half taunting without me.

He will deserve it.

And so will our midfield

Who would you play in midfield ?

Henderson and Campbell will get destroyed absolute waste of space today both of them. JDH and Newell both miles above these two


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[LunasBoots]

Who would you play in midfield ?

Henderson and Campbell will get destroyed absolute waste of space today both of them. JDH and Newell both miles above these two


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I'd play Newell but it's a toss up between the rest at the moment

[Nicho87]

I’d be bold and Chuck Lewis in midfield

[S4uzee]

Who would you play in midfield ?

Henderson and Campbell will get destroyed absolute waste of space today both of them. JDH and Newell both miles above these two


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JDH is very average. Only ever passes the ball back or sideways

[truehibernian]

I’d be bold and Chuck Lewis in midfield

You know what Nicho, at least you'd get crunching tackles and the crowd going. As much as I think he's had his time at the club, for a derby, I'd actually go with your opinion - I'm at a loss to know what midfield we'll go with and Lewis in there might add some steel.

[Ronniekirk]

Norwegian guy, McGrath and Charles-Cook would be some end to the window!

Exciting few days ahead hopefully. Surely a good few outbound as well.

I don’t think we are in for McGrath unless that changes after todays performance
Cook after todays performance will have other suitors and Maloney after the game saying no movement in relation to our target but they will work tirelessly to try and bring them in So didn’t sound that optimistic


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[Ronniekirk]

**** **** ****.

****.

It’s now heading that way


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[MagicSwirlingShip]

Just because Newell is our best midfielder doesn’t mean he is good enough.

Our midfield has a long way to go

[Nevi_SOL]

Everyone criticising our players on here thought about getting behind them on a Saturday rather than just looking for any excuse to get on to them. Like it or not they’re hibs players and are so for the foreseeable future. Get behind them and support them, confidence is key to what we’re trying to do here. Maybe JDH and Newell don’t want to play that killer pass because they know if it doesn’t come off the fan base is going to get on their backs

[Alfred E Newman]

Just because Newell is our best midfielder doesn’t mean he is good enough.

Our midfield has a long way to go

The fact that Newell is our best midfielder says it all.

[Libby Hibby]

Everyone criticising our players on here thought about getting behind them on a Saturday rather than just looking for any excuse to get on to them. Like it or not they’re hibs players and are so for the foreseeable future. Get behind them and support them, confidence is key to what we’re trying to do here. Maybe JDH and Newell don’t want to play that killer pass because they know if it doesn’t come off the fan base is going to get on their backs

You might be on to something here

[bingo70]

Everyone criticising our players on here thought about getting behind them on a Saturday rather than just looking for any excuse to get on to them. Like it or not they’re hibs players and are so for the foreseeable future. Get behind them and support them, confidence is key to what we’re trying to do here. Maybe JDH and Newell don’t want to play that killer pass because they know if it doesn’t come off the fan base is going to get on their backs

That’s kind of the point of this place though.

Agree about the lack of support and patience in the stadium though.

[Blaster]

Just because Newell is our best midfielder doesn’t mean he is good enough.

Our midfield has a long way to go

Fair point but JDH and Campbell are worse so he needs to be in before them. Our engine room is our biggest problem

[IberianHibernian]

Everyone criticising our players on here thought about getting behind them on a Saturday rather than just looking for any excuse to get on to them. Like it or not they’re hibs players and are so for the foreseeable future. Get behind them and support them, confidence is key to what we’re trying to do here. Maybe JDH and Newell don’t want to play that killer pass because they know if it doesn’t come off the fan base is going to get on their backsPost of the month . I agree 100% . I`ve no idea how our season will finish ( anything from 4th to 10th in league and anything from losing to Arbroath to winning cup ) but I`m already seeing reasons for optimism for next season with new young signings , development team signings , Under 18 team success , etc

[madhatter]

Everyone criticising our players on here thought about getting behind them on a Saturday rather than just looking for any excuse to get on to them. Like it or not they’re hibs players and are so for the foreseeable future. Get behind them and support them, confidence is key to what we’re trying to do here. Maybe JDH and Newell don’t want to play that killer pass because they know if it doesn’t come off the fan base is going to get on their backs

I think problem with JDH and Newell playing killer passes is their too deep in our half and routinely get the ball from our defenders while facing our own goal square on personally.

If it is because of our fan base then sadly that loops back to the players. Devoid of leadership and no guts. Showed in the latter stages of the 2nd half when fans became restless, nobody on the pitch looked to be trying to get anything going. Going through the motions could've categorised our play.

Difficult to support a team that genuinely looks lifeless and clueless. I don't boo, I just quietly shake my head.

[hibbysam]

Just because Newell is our best midfielder doesn’t mean he is good enough.

Our midfield has a long way to go

He is more than good enough. An extremely good SPFL premiership midfielder.

[LeithMike]

He is more than good enough. An extremely good SPFL premiership midfielder.Maybes aye, maybes naw. Newell likes to sit and pass the ball. If you've got two other midfielders who want to sit and pass then you're not going to get far if another team closes you down. Since Lennon's 3rd season/Heckingbottom we've had Mallan, Allan, Vela, Newell and JDH - all players with very limited mobility who want to get on the ball and pass but are not so good at moving into space.

Hands up the worst midfield I've seen from Hibs was A trio of Mallan, Vela and Allan under Heckingbottom. Teams just played right through us.

Martindale said today that he wants all his players attacking and all of his players defending. Mobility is key to that.

Newell is a neat footballer but if you're going to play him, he needs legs alongside him.

While Magennis may be capable it's no guarantee. He had a promising start to the season but we still couldn't dominate the ball in the games I saw.

Worrying thing from today is Euan Henderson looks to be of the same ilk too.

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[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Box to box midfielder. Forget a winger

We need energy in the middle

[500miles]

Maybes aye, maybes naw. Newell likes to sit and pass the ball. If you've got two other midfielders who want to sit and pass then you're not going to get far if another team closes you down. Since Lennon's 3rd season/Heckingbottom we've had Mallan, Allan, Vela, Newell and JDH - all players with very limited mobility who want to get on the ball and pass but are not so good at moving into space.

Hands up the worst midfield I've seen from Hibs was A trio of Mallan, Vela and Allan under Heckingbottom. Teams just played right through us.

Martindale said today that he wants all his players attacking and all of his players defending. Mobility is key to that.

Newell is a neat footballer but if you're going to play him, he needs legs alongside him.

While Magennis may be capable it's no guarantee. He had a promising start to the season but we still couldn't dominate the ball in the games I saw.

Worrying thing from today is Euan Henderson looks to be of the same ilk too.

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Henderson is here to replace Newell I think. Joe will be going back down south when his contract ends. I think Euan will be more attack oriented as well.

[IberianHibernian]

Just realised this is the winter transfer thread .
Not much time to sign anyone . I think we`re going to struggle to make top 6 and so fight for top 5 ( 5th will almost definitely be enough for Conference ) and cup needs luck so good signings would be welcome but am doubtful that we can sign anyone good enough now to make a big enough difference so maybe looking at signings in summer to complement the hopefully good young players we`ve signed .
Any serious rumours of signings for now ?

[Callum_62]

I'd love to have some insight on who is on our shortlist to replace Boyle

Maloney did reference a short list

Someone mentioned there was no movement on our target(s) according to Maloney

I still think if there's a possibility we would be foolish to not get Mcgrath in

He would immediately improve our central midfield

Charles Cooke I'm a wee bit undecided on but he's having a great season


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[Cod Boy]

Back to last day panic buying

[Callum_62]

Back to last day panic buyingNot every signing on deadline day is a panic signing

We've signed Mueller, Melkerson, Clarke, Rocky, Henderson and Mitchell all reasonably early

We do have a Boyle shaped hole that only became apparent about ten days ago

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[JimBHibees]

Back to last day panic buying

Hope to see 3 or 4 in and the same or more out don't think that will happen but imo should happen with the 3 or 4 being ones ready to immediately play.

[IberianHibernian]

Back to last day panic buyingHopefully not . Every club will be offering and being offered players this weekend . We`ve already signed some very promising young players that will probably help us more next season or beyond . Despite Livi result hope we keep big signings till summer unless really good player becomes available now .

[Shrekko]

Everyone criticising our players on here thought about getting behind them on a Saturday rather than just looking for any excuse to get on to them. Like it or not they’re hibs players and are so for the foreseeable future. Get behind them and support them, confidence is key to what we’re trying to do here. Maybe JDH and Newell don’t want to play that killer pass because they know if it doesn’t come off the fan base is going to get on their backs

The crowd are not to blame but they are doing zero to help at the moment.

No great celebration when we score, folk walking out today with 30
minutes left after Livi’s 3rd, ground half empty most weeks after 85 mins …and gratuitous booing whenever some get the chance.

It can’t be an easy place to perform at your best.

[ahibby]

You might be on to something here

Jokers both of u

[ahibby]

The crowd are not to blame but they are doing zero to help at the moment.

No great celebration when we score, folk walking out today with 30
minutes left after Livi’s 3rd, ground half empty most weeks after 85 mins …and gratuitous booing whenever some get the chance.

It can’t be an easy place to perform at your best.

BS simple

[ahibby]

Back to last day panic buying

Has to be because its obvious we are messing up big time.

[ahibby]

Hopefully not . Every club will be offering and being offered players this weekend . We`ve already signed some very promising young players that will probably help us more next season or beyond . Despite Livi result hope we keep big signings till summer unless really good player becomes available now .

So Hearts get it right and now but we will be okay next season, really?

[ahibby]

Henderson is here to replace Newell I think. Joe will be going back down south when his contract ends. I think Euan will be more attack oriented as well.

But he cost a goal today znd little going forward, not impressed.

[Callum_62]

But he cost a goal today znd little going forward, not impressed.How did Henderson cost a goal today?

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[IberianHibernian]

So Hearts get it right and now but we will be okay next season, really?Are you expecting us to sign players in the next 48 hours who will suddenly make us race up league table and win cup ? No idea about Hearts . No idea how much they`ve paid players to sign on or how much their recruitment team are on . In both cases more than other clubs were prepared to pay . Their best player is nearly 40 and they`re about to lose their best defender . Despite massive expenditure on recruitment staff and players , they were still nearer 7th than 2nd before today`s games . Long time to go this season and next for all clubs .

[Ronniekirk]

Hope to see 3 or 4 in and the same or more out don't think that will happen but imo should happen with the 3 or 4 being ones ready to immediately play.

Just can’t see that happening in terms of inward players
By the sound of things it’s the young Norwegian guy and Boyles replacement if we can get a deal done
But Maloney has also said we may have to wait till the summer to replace Boyle as it has to be someone with the same attributes that can come straight into the team


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[Stevie Reid]

Are you expecting us to sign players in the next 48 hours who will suddenly make us race up league table and win cup ? No idea about Hearts . No idea how much they`ve paid players to sign on or how much their recruitment team are on . In both cases more than other clubs were prepared to pay . Their best player is nearly 40 and they`re about to lose their best defender . Despite massive expenditure on recruitment staff and players , they were still nearer 7th than 2nd before today`s games . Long time to go this season and next for all clubs .

They were nearer 7th than 2nd before today’s game? Presume you mean on points but so what? That’s not how league tables work - they’re ten points clear in 3rd, which is as high as they can realistically finish.

Speculating that they might be paying over the odds for the guys who are responsible for them finally signing a very effective squad is a bizarre take on things. They’ve squandered money for many years but it really can’t be argued that they arent spending it well right now.

[Real Emerald]

Henderson is here to replace Newell I think. Joe will be going back down south when his contract ends. I think Euan will be more attack oriented as well.

Henderson was a rabbit caught in the headlights, looks really young and lightweight. He looks miles away from competing with Newell sadly.

[Stuart93]

Henderson was a rabbit caught in the headlights, looks really young and lightweight. He looks miles away from competing with Newell sadly.

Canny say I’m surprised he’s not really made an impact as yet, failed to make an impact at both Ross county & Dunfermline so no idea how he’s been deemed good enough for us at this point

[Real Emerald]

Canny say I’m surprised he’s not really made an impact as yet, failed to make an impact at both Ross county & Dunfermline so no idea how he’s been deemed good enough for us at this point

Agree Stuart, we need a dominant midfielder which Newell does a good job at but Henderson looks years off that if ever. He looks like a school lad in a man’s game.

[Ronniekirk]

Agree Stuart, we need a dominant midfielder which Newell does a good job at but Henderson looks years off that if ever. He looks like a school lad in a man’s game.

And yet he was clearly one of the players Maloney wanted to bring in from the get talking him up as if he was going to be pivotal to how he wanted us to play


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[Stuart93]

And yet he was clearly one of the players Maloney wanted to bring in from the get talking him up as if he was going to be pivotal to how he wanted us to play


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He may progress into becoming that but just don’t understand the clamour to get him in when he barely made an impact at previous clubs

[cameronw-hfc]

He may progress into becoming that but just don’t understand the clamour to get him in when he barely made an impact at previous clubs

Keep in mind he's played about 20 mins of football before coming to he us this season. Will take a bit to get up to speed.

[Haymaker]

:hyper

[Waxy]

:hyper

Well we need a proven goalscorer quickly.

[18Craig75]

Henderson was hiding yesterday in the second half. Utterly bizarre to watch him in the RB position several times, taking a 2 yard pass from Porteous, only to pass it back, especially when Cadden was also there.

He’s not the only one, JDH & Campbell always in safe areas playing safe passes as well.

[Nicho87]

Mueller is another one, big fan fare of him arriving.

I’ve not seen anything special at all yet.

Big bucks on bang average.

[coldingham hibs]

The crowd are not to blame but they are doing zero to help at the moment.

No great celebration when we score, folk walking out today with 30
minutes left after Livi’s 3rd, ground half empty most weeks after 85 mins …and gratuitous booing whenever some get the chance.

It can’t be an easy place to perform at your best.


Football on display yesterday barring the first 15 minutes was simply awful. I’m not sure what people expect the support to be like watching that. Livi are on a much smaller budget than us yet looked like an organised well drilled team and probably had the 2 best players on the pitch in Omeonga & Forrest. Maloney continues to involve players simply not nearly good enough & our signings don’t look like they are going to improve the team. Maloney’s best 2 results were with Jack Ross’s team, we have been worse since introducing his players.

[bingo70]

Football on display yesterday barring the first 15 minutes was simply awful. I’m not sure what people expect the support to be like watching that. Livi are on a much smaller budget than us yet looked like an organised well drilled team and probably had the 2 best players on the pitch in Omeonga & Forrest. Maloney continues to involve players simply not nearly good enough & our signings don’t look like they are going to improve the team. Maloney’s best 2 results were with Jack Ross’s team, we have been worse since introducing his players.

He’s played 6 games and took over a team on a terrible run of form.

Martindale has been there for a couple of years.

[Crunchie]

Mueller is another one, big fan fare of him arriving.

I’ve not seen anything special at all yet.

Big bucks on bang average.
You'll no doubt have said the same about Magennis? give him a chance ffs he's just in the door.

[Callum_62]

He’s played 6 games and took over a team on a terrible run of form.

Martindale has been there for a couple of years.Martindale (by our own measure) would or should have been sacked 8 games into this season (1 win, 1draw 6 defeats)

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[jacomo]

He’s played 6 games and took over a team on a terrible run of form.

Martindale has been there for a couple of years.


Nice try, but you can’t defend that.

Our club decided to bin our manager because we thought we could do better. We are entitled to expect to be doing better.

[Jones28]

Nice try, but you can’t defend that.

Our club decided to bin our manager because we thought we could do better. We are entitled to expect to be doing better.

Immediately? With the same players? No bedding in time at all?

[raeburnhibs]

Mueller is another one, big fan fare of him arriving.

I’ve not seen anything special at all yet.

Big bucks on bang average.

Mueller looked good when he come on; pace, movement. He needs minutes and a goal. Bang average? don't think so......

[Ozyhibby]

You'll no doubt have said the same about Magennis? give him a chance ffs he's just in the door.

Give him another 3 or 4 weeks and he’ll have played the same amount of games as Magennis. [emoji849]


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[Allant1981]

Mueller looked good when he come on; pace, movement. He needs minutes and a goal. Bang average? don't think so......

I wouldnt say he is that quick, omeonga(i think) was running with the ball yesterday and mueller still couldnt catch him. Hopefully he improves though as its still very early days

[Libby Hibby]

Folk need to let Jack Ross go and start supporting the present.

Yes, criticise what you see if your not happy but the way it was heading under JR, I think we would be currently worse off.

Jack Ross is gone. As a support, we need to move on.

[bingo70]

Nice try, but you can’t defend that.

Our club decided to bin our manager because we thought we could do better. We are entitled to expect to be doing better.

Nah, I can and I will.

We are 6 games into the new managers reign. 6 games.

During that time we have lost our best player that we were far too reliant on.

I seem to remember us losing 3-0 to Livi under the previous manager last season and 2-0 under him earlier this season. These suggestions/undertones, call it what you want that Maloney has caused some sort of collapse that we wouldn’t have seen under the previous manager are a nonsense.

I make no apologies for repeating myself here but 6 games he’s had. During that time we’ve had our best player sold, he’s tried to change the way we played and his new signings aren’t up to speed yet. Despite that we’ve won 3 games under him, 2 of those wins against teams above us in the league, drew away at a really difficult venue for teams this season and only lost to Celtic away and yesterday to Livi. All this on the back of taking over a team on a shocking run of form who’s confidence was shot to pieces.

It’s your expectations that are the problem at this stage, not the new manager.

[Libby Hibby]

Nah, I can and I will.

We are 6 games into the new managers reign. 6 games.

During that time we have lost our best player that we were far too reliant on.

I seem to remember us losing 3-0 to Livi under the previous manager last season and 2-0 under him earlier this season. These suggestions/undertones, call it what you want that Maloney has caused some sort of collapse that we wouldn’t have seen under the previous manager are a nonsense.

I make no apologies for repeating myself here but 6 games he’s had. During that time we’ve had our best player sold, he’s tried to change the way we played and his new signings aren’t up to speed yet. Despite that we’ve won 3 games under him, 2 of those wins against teams above us in the league, drew away at a really difficult venue for teams this season and only lost to Celtic away and yesterday to Livi. All this on the back of taking over a team on a shocking run of form who’s confidence was shot to pieces.

It’s your expectations that are the problem at this stage, not the new manager.

Well said.

[Ronniekirk]

Mueller looked good when he come on; pace, movement. He needs minutes and a goal. Bang average? don't think so......

He will improve the more he plays and when we get a settled team with players in best positions


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[raeburnhibs]

I wouldnt say he is that quick, omeonga(i think) was running with the ball yesterday and mueller still couldnt catch him. Hopefully he improves though as its still very early days

I saw a couple of bursts forward and that is where he should use his pace, in the right place, short, for a few seconds, to get a yard or two, and he did. Not tracking Omeonga back half the length of the pitch

[Allant1981]

I saw a couple of bursts forward and that is where he should use his pace, in the right place, short, for a few seconds, to get a yard or two, and he did. Not tracking Omeonga back half the length of the pitch

Yip when playing central he did, think part of the problem just now is there seems to be no structure, players missing in parts of the pitch, hopefully it all improves soon

[we are hibs]

Nah, I can and I will.

We are 6 games into the new managers reign. 6 games.

During that time we have lost our best player that we were far too reliant on.

I seem to remember us losing 3-0 to Livi under the previous manager last season and 2-0 under him earlier this season. These suggestions/undertones, call it what you want that Maloney has caused some sort of collapse that we wouldn’t have seen under the previous manager are a nonsense.

I make no apologies for repeating myself here but 6 games he’s had. During that time we’ve had our best player sold, he’s tried to change the way we played and his new signings aren’t up to speed yet. Despite that we’ve won 3 games under him, 2 of those wins against teams above us in the league, drew away at a really difficult venue for teams this season and only lost to Celtic away and yesterday to Livi. All this on the back of taking over a team on a shocking run of form who’s confidence was shot to pieces.

It’s your expectations that are the problem at this stage, not the new manager.Agree 100%.


Also find it ironic the same people who regularly defended Ross by claiming peoples expectations were far too high are now putting ludicrous expectations on the new manager after 6 weeks. Its not good enough right now. No one disagrees with that but there also has to be a realisation that we have a lot of players who simply arent good enough/arent contributing enough and need to be moved on but the issues are that both A) another club needs to actually want to sign them and B ) they might not want to give up their higher wage to move on elsewhere. They've shown they can be a good players individually at times but they are still far too inconsistent as a team. You cant even predict what hibs are going to turn up from half to half never mind from game to game.

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[KeithTheHibby]

Maloney has had 6 games in charge with 4 of them this year. In those 4 we’ve looked worse than we did under JR. I was really hoping he would have fine tuned his team before we play Hearts however we look all over the place.
Far too many changes made each week, baffling substitutions and players getting played out of position.
I know we’ve had injuries and losing Boyle was massive however am I wrong to expect things to be better than what they are?

Really hoping for a win on Tuesday, could really kick-start the season and give the fans players and the club a huge lift for the rest of the season. Still loads to play for, 4th place in the league is more than achievable and we are still in the cup but we need to start getting results.

[Since452]

Maloney has had 6 games in charge with 4 of them this year. In those 4 we’ve looked worse than we did under JR. I was really hoping he would have fine tuned his team before we play Hearts however we look all over the place.
Far too many changes made each week, baffling substitutions and players getting played out of position.
I know we’ve had injuries and losing Boyle was massive however am I wrong to expect things to be better than what they are?

Really hoping for a win on Tuesday, could really kick-start the season and give the fans players and the club a huge lift for the rest of the season. Still loads to play for, 4th place in the league is more than achievable and we are still in the cup but we need to start getting results.

I'm feeling really disillusioned with Hibs just now. A win on Tuesday would obviously be brilliant but I think they'll win fairly comfortably.

[K-Zazu]

I’m sorry but Mueller and Henderson look well of it don’t know if they aren’t fit enough but they don’t look good enough for me. Why was Henderson playing basically as a centre half?

[bingo70]

I’m sorry but Mueller and Henderson look well of it don’t know if they aren’t fit enough but they don’t look good enough for me. Why was Henderson playing basically as a centre half?

He was dropping deep to get the ball as we had Nisbet, murphy, Scott, mueller, Cadden and Doig pushing forward.

We needed someone in a deeper position that could pass a ball and there’s a limit to the amount of people we can have forward before folk get in the way of each other.

I’m not saying the plan worked but the logic of it made sense to me.

[04Sauzee]

I’m sorry but Mueller and Henderson look well of it don’t know if they aren’t fit enough but they don’t look good enough for me. Why was Henderson playing basically as a centre half?

Though Mueller looked decent, one of the positives for me.

[Leith Green]

Mueller is another one, big fan fare of him arriving.

I’ve not seen anything special at all yet.

Big bucks on bang average.



I actually thought he was one of only two bright lights yesterday, the other being caddens continued good form..

[hibee1875]

Mueller looked good when he come on; pace, movement. He needs minutes and a goal. Bang average? don't think so......


I agree. Took some nice touches and moved the ball on well

[LeithMike]

Though Mueller looked decent, one of the positives for me.Thought he looked a bit confused. His starting position was pretty narrow with Cadden the person operating out wide and so it didn't look like he knew where he was to make runs.

Think he would have fared better in a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 with a starting position out wide and Cadden feeding the ball to him and overlapping to take a many away. With our 2 wide centre halves not crossing the half way line and the wide forwards in-field, the two wing backs had too much to do on their own. Exemplified by Doig facing 3 players on his own at one point.

We look better in the wide areas than the middle of the park so might suit us going to a 4-4-2 and getting the ball forward quicker. Dont think that will be Maloney's way though.

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[WhileTheChief..]

Martindale isn't even a proper football manager yet he can consistently put teams together that beat us.

That in itself should be a bit of a beamer for any Hibs manager.

[SlickShoes]

Martindale isn't even a proper football manager yet he can consistently put teams together that beat us.

That in itself should be a bit of a beamer for any Hibs manager.

If he was hibs manager he’d have been sacked multiple times for the form his teams have been in.

[Callum_62]

James Forest on loan?

Random post on FB so surley highly unlikely

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[Ozyhibby]

Martindale isn't even a proper football manager yet he can consistently put teams together that beat us.

That in itself should be a bit of a beamer for any Hibs manager.

Why isn’t he a proper football manager?


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[Hermit Crab]

James Forest on loan?

Random post on FB so surley highly unlikely

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No chance you'd think. Wouldn't want him, yet another player who couldn't play against Celtic and he not actually that good.

[04Sauzee]

James Forest on loan?

Random post on FB so surley highly unlikely

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Started the last 2 games for Celtic , absolutely no chance he will be at Hibs .

[DJ HIBBY]

No chance you'd think. Wouldn't want him, yet another player who couldn't play against Celtic and he not actually that good.


What a lot of garbage. Forrest would easily be our best player, over 100 goals and assists for Celtic shows he has had an excellent career. Easily walks into our team. That said no danger Celtic are giving us him on loan, totally unrealistic rumour imo

[Ozyhibby]

No chance you'd think. Wouldn't want him, yet another player who couldn't play against Celtic and he not actually that good.

I agree there is no chance but ‘he’s not actually that good’? [emoji23]


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[Hermit Crab]

What a lot of garbage. Forrest would easily be our best player, over 100 goals and assists for Celtic shows he has had an excellent career. Easily walks into our team. That said no danger Celtic are giving us him on loan, totally unrealistic rumour imo


I agree there is no chance but ‘he’s not actually that good’? [emoji23]


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Aye he's that good Celtic would let him go on loan to an SPL rival? :confused:

[bingo70]

Why isn’t he a proper football manager?


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Wondered that myself 😂

Managed a team successfully for 2 and a half years but isn’t a proper manager?

[bigwheel]

Wondered that myself [emoji23]

Managed a team successfully for 2 and a half years but isn’t a proper manager?

Thought their Managment team out thought ours yesterday …..