Jambos Legal Challenge

[jacomo]

So Budges legal team told her she had a weak case but she ploughed on regardless?

She’s got some questions to answer. But will anyone ask them?

[JeMeSouviens]

“winning the war” :rolleyes:

Why don’t they just dig trenches across Tiny and be done with it?

I see she’s already celebrating their Championship win as well.

And “strong financial management”. LOLZ!

[GloryGlory]

Has she ever apologised for major part in them going down?

Or her failed leadership of the commission looking at league reconstruction, that the majority of clubs threw out with utter contempt for its inadequacy.

[jacomo]

Ann has clearly been on the sherry tonight :greengrin Hearts don't do humility, but by God they don't half do arrogance and delusions of grandeur better than any club :aok: and the bit in bold Ann............no you don't...........you stiffed the tax payer and small business for multi millions only a few years ago. Karma :cb


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[HoboHarry]

Woman is off her rocker, I'm almost starting to feel sorry for her.

[The 90+2]

Or her failed leadership of the commission looking at league reconstruction, that the majority of clubs threw out with utter contempt for its inadequacy.

It’s literally 90% her fault 10% Levein. Yet they still think the sun shines out her arse, which really means they are scared benefactors walk away if she leaves.

[Kato]

Budge’sstatement is demented. Absolutely stunning that somebody at the head of a football club thought it was acceptable to put out an extended rant like that. She even says her rant is over before continuing with it. She needs help.

I'm expecting at least another two statements before midnight.

[Hibeesforever]

Budge’sstatement is demented. Absolutely stunning that somebody at the head of a football club thought it was acceptable to put out an extended rant like that. She even says her rant is over before continuing with it. She needs help.

Got to agree with you, mentioning that they want to win a war is an appalling thing or a Chairwoman to say.

[RyeSloan]

There’s been (another) statement from Hearts

to cut a long story short, it’s no fair and it’s Everyone else’s fault and Hearts will be champions next year

Classic Budge! A billion comma’s with a few words squeezed in-between.

This sentence did make me laugh out loud though... “We look forward, once again, to celebrating a successful year”


Yeah Ann you’ve had sooo many of them we have all lost count [emoji23][emoji23]

[Jones28]

“My rant is over for now”

Rants on for a further 3 paragraphs

[The 90+2]

Ann has clearly been on the sherry tonight :greengrin Hearts don't do humility, but by God they don't half do arrogance and delusions of grandeur better than any club :aok: and the bit in bold Ann............no you don't...........you stiffed the tax payer and small business for multi millions only a few years ago. Karma :cb

Or when they called admin just after the season finished to relegate Dundee.

[Hibs90]

"Let me say 'thank you' to each and every one of you. I am sorry we did not win this battle but as we all know, it is winning the war that counts."



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[JeMeSouviens]

For too long, Chairmen and Owners have stood on the sidelines bemoaning the decision-making processes, the perceived lack of leadership, the lack of commercialism; the general shortcomings, as they see it, of Scottish football. However, if they really want things to change, it will take more than words. They will have to stand-up and be counted.

Jeez. She makes it sound like she's some fearless crusader for justice against a harsh oppressive tyrant rather than a chairwoman of a failing football club making a grubby, commercially-motivated attempt to hide her own inadequacies and ineptitude by claiming the moral high ground.

Who also until recently sat on the board of the organisation she’s crusading against.

[PolmontHibby]

I thought Sevco were as usual winning the annual award for sanctimonious drivel of the year.....but that statement could win the prize for the Championship team.

[ScottB]

They keep going on about their brave battle to change Scottish football for the better.

It was making the league slightly bigger, right? That was it? They weren’t trying to change the structure of the governing body, or the voting rules, or encourage more homegrown players, it was making the top league 2 teams bigger?

Have I missed the real purpose of their selfless, righteous crusade for reform?

[truehibernian]

Or her failed leadership of the commission looking at league reconstruction, that the majority of clubs threw out with utter contempt for its inadequacy.

Note no mention of Hearts legal fight potentially costing Dundee United, Raith, and Cove millions (and closure) given they wanted to deny promotion in place of their own arrogance and self interest :cb

Both on a football and business front, Budge has been an absolute nightmare for them :agree: makes David Duff look like Bill Gates :greengrin

[bingo70]

The arrogance of that statement is off the chart and I really hope it will be their downfall next season. They think they just need to turn up and they’ll win the league.

[Aldo]

For too long, Chairmen and Owners have stood on the sidelines bemoaning the decision-making processes, the perceived lack of leadership, the lack of commercialism; the general shortcomings, as they see it, of Scottish football. However, if they really want things to change, it will take more than words. They will have to stand-up and be counted.
We tried to do just that. Unfortunately, the very fact that we tried and lost, will cause many others to be even more wary.

WTF the only reason you wanted change is because of your mismanagement and piss poor results for 30 games.

Clearly blinded as everyone else can see this bar you!

O and your first sentence.... what have you done since you took over your club.... contradiction after contradiction.... too many professional clubs blah blah then a few months ago we need to expand blah blah.

You were part of this problem when you where on the SPFL board but what did you do or say???? NOWT about any of what you’ve mentioned above!

Bye bye.


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[Kato]

For too long, Chairmen and Owners have stood on the sidelines bemoaning the decision-making processes, the perceived lack of leadership, the lack of commercialism; the general shortcomings, as they see it, of Scottish football. However, if they really want things to change, it will take more than words. They will have to stand-up and be counted.



Ahh so it was all about "changing Scottish football", nothing to do with Hearts being rotten and relegated.

What a hypocrite. Their fans deserve her and she deserves them. I hope the continue pumping their money at this useless idiot for years to come.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Following the Relegation? I thought they had been expelled?

So in Ann Budge's own words they were relegated. Not demoted, or expelled or any other word to describe finishing bottom of the league. Just so we're clear on that, next time a Jambo says otherwise.

[jacomo]

They keep going on about their brave battle to change Scottish football for the better.

It was making the league slightly bigger, right? That was it? They weren’t trying to change the structure of the governing body, or the voting rules, or encourage more homegrown players, it was making the top league 2 teams bigger?

Have I missed the real purpose of their selfless, righteous crusade for reform?


Ideally, only for a few seasons too, before it reverted back to a 12 team division.

Seismic.

[Kato]

So in Ann Budge's own words they were relegated. Not demoted, or expelled or any other word to describe finishing bottom of the league. Just so we're clear on that, next time a Jambo says otherwise.

Screenshot it, fast.

[stoneyburn hibs]

“winning the war” :rolleyes:

Why don’t they just dig trenches across Tiny and be done with it?

I see she’s already celebrating their Championship win as well.

And “strong financial management”. LOLZ!


She's certainly digging a hole with that statement.
That's mental.

More statements please Anne, before the SFA drop a bomb on Thursday.

[truehibernian]

At least their chips will taste even better with all the salty tears pouring over them in hospitality versus Arbroath :greengrin

[Future17]

Note no mention of Hearts legal fight potentially costing Dundee United, Raith, and Cove millions (and closure) given they wanted to deny promotion in place of their own arrogance and self interest :cb

Both on a football and business front, Budge has been an absolute nightmare for them :agree: makes David Duff look like Bill Gates :greengrin

Tbf, the finger she stuck up James Anderson turned out to be a good business decision.

[truehibernian]

Tbf, the finger she stuck up James Anderson turned out to be a good business decision.

You mean the bribe (cough, cough) :greengrin

[Stuart93]

More pandering to the hearts fans with the victim mentality. She knows exactly how to play the poor ****s. They’ll all fall for it as well.

They should perhaps look closer to home as to why they’re in the position they’re in

[bingo70]

Why are Hearts trying to tell the rest of Scotland how football should be run?

Have they not noticed the state they are in themselves?

[truehibernian]

For too long, Chairmen and Owners have stood on the sidelines bemoaning the decision-making processes, the perceived lack of leadership, the lack of commercialism; the general shortcomings, as they see it, of Scottish football. However, if they really want things to change, it will take more than words. They will have to stand-up and be counted.
We tried to do just that. Unfortunately, the very fact that we tried and lost, will cause many others to be even more wary.

WTF the only reason you wanted change is because of your mismanagement and piss poor results for 30 games.

Clearly blinded as everyone else can see this bar you!

O and your first sentence.... what have you done since you took over your club.... contradiction after contradiction.... too many professional clubs blah blah then a few months ago we need to expand blah blah.

You were part of this problem when you where on the SPFL board but what did you do or say???? NOWT about any of what you’ve mentioned above!

Bye bye.


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Aldo, telt ya :aok::greengrin

[bringbackbenny]

what parody site did you lift that off as it cannot possibly be real?

The statement is beyond demented. self centred, narcissistic and ignoring the facts. All a smoke screen to hide the complete mess she has made of running HMFC.

[calumhibee1]

Hahaha. That is amazing. She really is off her head. The only reason she doesn’t get the same sort of “raj” label that Romanov has is that English is her first language. If she was foreign the media would have hung her out to dry as being an absolute loony.

[Future17]

Does this decision mean they will get their lawyer costs back

They're unlikely to get 100% but should get the majority.

[bingo70]

More pandering to the hearts fans with the victim mentality. She knows exactly how to play the poor ****s. They’ll all fall for it as well.

They should perhaps look closer to home as to why they’re in the position they’re in

Very good job of deflecting the blame so far though.

Spfl
Sfa
Neil Doncaster
Dundee
The 3 independent QC’s.
Peter Lawell
Raith Rovers
Literally every club in Scotland apart from them, Partick and Inverness.

All to blame and nothing to do with Hearts.

[truehibernian]

Very good job of deflecting the blame so far though.

Spfl
Sfa
Neil Doncaster
Dundee
The 3 independent QC’s.
Peter Lawell
Raith Rovers
Literally every club in Scotland apart from them, Partick and Inverness.

All to blame and nothing to do with Hearts.

You missed out St Liedown and Jon Obika bingo :greengrin

[Aldo]

Aldo, telt ya :aok::greengrin

O aye. [emoji106]

What’s good in all this is Budge is still spouting and the SFA have still to decide what punishment is coming their way!


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[Kato]

Hahaha. That is amazing. She really is off her head. The only reason she doesn’t get the same sort of “raj” label that Romanov has is that English is her first language. If she was foreign the media would have hung her out to dry as being an absolute loony.

When she first took over the press portrayed her as breath of fresh air ready to make a huge difference to Scottish football. A statement based on absolutely nothing. Six years down the line she's made a total shop front of every single aspect of running Hearts, wasting millions and millions of pounds in the process.

Gaun yersel Ann, I hope you reign for many years to come.

[Brightside]

The war comment is disgusting from her. I hope the are fined massively now. She’s a bam pot and needs to be censured.

[Skol]

Kickback are very much in favour of the statement and the fact that the mention of winning the war means they are off to CAS to get the decision they desire

[Aldo]

You missed out St Liedown and Jon Obika bingo :greengrin

An award like one in 1986 for SAK??

Maybe an honorary Fans POTY and Jon Obika could be the recipient. You think that would go down well over at Tiny?


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[BoomtownHibees]

So are they surprised at the result or not surprised at it??

1st statement:
“all we can only say is how disappointed and surprised we are at the outcome”

2nd statement
“we cannot say we are totally surprised at the outcome”

[FilipinoHibs]

They're unlikely to get 100% but should get the majority.

Think they will get it all. £25k for SPFL, £75k for the three clubs and £50k for themselves. £75k each

[degenerated]

I think they should go to CAS ... or dignitas, Switzerland anyway.Indignitas more like

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[Pagan Hibernia]

“You can’t fight the establishment” :greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

yeah, cus hearts have always been great at fighting the establishment?!

they represent the f****** establishment!

[tamig]

FOH plea to fans of other clubs

A statement full of irony. They are almost a caricature of some of the dross that spills out on JKB.

[The 90+2]

Think they will get it all. £25k for SPFL, £75k for the three clubs and £50k for themselves. £75k each

Shame. All funded for them tho.

[calumhibee1]

Hearts fans back to declaring that the season should have been finished on Twitter. They really don’t seem to have grasped the fact there’s been a global pandemic, do they?

[Kato]

So are they surprised at the result or not surprised at it??

1st statement:
“all we can only say is how disappointed and surprised we are at the outcome”

2nd statement
“we cannot say we are totally surprised at the outcome”

They had a strong and powerful argument for their case which they didn't think they'd win.

They're a powerful and well run business who forgot to order seats for a section of the ground that you sit in.

They are financially successful because a business man gifts them a couple of million pounds every season.

They'll have a another successful year next year, the one after this year in which they've been rank.

They had the ideal person running the (y'know) football side of things who they had to sack recently because he was incompetent for six years.

****

There's a pattern there.

[Del Boy]

So, did they ever find that ‘smoking gun’?

[marinello59]

So, did they ever find that ‘smoking gun’?

Looks like all Budge found was the crack pipe.

[McSwanky]

Today has been a good day for laughs. Hoping for some more statements tomorrow!

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[Mon Dieu4]

There are folk over there that are proud and glad to have her as the Chair of their great club and she has integrity and dignity, safe to say everyone else agrees and you have exactly who you deserve in charge

****ing lunatics honestly, a small small minority seem to see it all for what it is and realise she's a bomb scare but it's still verging on North Korean election results of people that are in favour, it's like some offshoot of the flat earth society

[bingo70]

So, did they ever find that ‘smoking gun’?

No, the three judges are corrupt and didn’t investigate apparently

Honestly though, that’s what they’re saying.

[Scott Allan Key]

Tom English said on the radio there was a lot of soul-searching and self-examination to be done... into the governance of the game.

Maybe, but he’d be better off doing a bit himself.I'm sure he'll find a large amount of fluff in his navel.

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[Lendo]

Today has been a good day for laughs. Hoping for some more statements tomorrow!

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Thoroughly enjoyed today too, the way I’ve been refreshing this thread it’s been like Transfer Deadline day

[Onion]

Has she ever apologised for major part in them going down?

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Budge has used a Global Pandemic and faux outrage to save her sorry arse. A pathetic business woman who kept on a manager who singularly failed at recruitment and management, and then publicly crowed about her new German manager who was even worse than the man she fired. Only in football could someone be so unaccountable. Levein and Budge are a dream team ... for Hibernian FC. Robbie Neilson, the architect of our greatest day at Hampden. We can only hope and pray Budge remains in charge at Hearts and they continue their race to the bottom, while they try to preach about how football should be run.

I cannot wait for the documentary.

[Pagan Hibernia]

There are folk over there that are proud and glad to have her as the Chair of their great club and she has integrity and dignity, safe to say everyone else agrees and you have exactly who you deserve in charge

****ing lunatics honestly, a small small minority seem to see it all for what it is and realise she's a bomb scare but it's still verging on North Korean election results of people that are in favour, it's like some offshoot of the flat earth society

cultists. Anyone daring to even suggest they move on and prepare for next season is being destroyed over there.

[Since452]

Banging on about winning wars and battles in their latest statement. Can't help themselves

[007]

By now, most of you will know that the SFA Arbitration Panel has found against us in our “unfair prejudice” challenge, following the relegation of Hearts, Partick Thistle and Stranraer, as a consequence of the early termination of Season 2019/20.

For those of us involved throughout this process, sadly once again, we cannot say we are totally surprised at the outcome, despite firmly believing in the power of the arguments and evidence we put forward.
I want to take this opportunity to thank our legal team, who despite the result, were quite simply first-class. They acknowledged from the outset that this would be an uphill battle, but nonetheless it was a battle we felt we had to fight. We could not simply sit back and accept the unfairness that was being meted out to us.
What has been allowed to happen in Scottish football, where fellow member clubs and our governing bodies have stood back and allowed totally disproportionate financial damage to be imposed on 3 of its members, can only be described as shameful… as indeed, should the SPFL’s recent self-congratulatory statement.
For too long, Chairmen and Owners have stood on the sidelines bemoaning the decision-making processes, the perceived lack of leadership, the lack of commercialism; the general shortcomings, as they see it, of Scottish football. However, if they really want things to change, it will take more than words. They will have to stand-up and be counted.
We tried to do just that. Unfortunately, the very fact that we tried and lost, will cause many others to be even more wary. I can hear them now... “You can’t fight the rules; you can’t fight the establishment; we must support the centre.” Sadly, I see little cause for optimism that things will improve any time soon in Scottish football. I hope I am wrong.
My rant is over for now. While frustrated, disappointed and angry with much that has gone on over the last 4 months, we must now move forward.
We will suffer serious financial losses as a consequence of losing this particular battle but we will survive and we will come through this stronger than ever. We have suffered a series of blows over recent months, but our spirit has never been stronger. We will continue to run our Club with honesty, transparency and integrity. These are the values we have always adhered to and we will continue to keep them front and centre of everything we do.
We will also lead with strong financial management and importantly, with confidence. We look forward, once again, to celebrating a successful year, culminating in winning the Championship and getting back to where we belong. Robbie has done it before and with your support, we can make this a year to remember for the right reasons as well as the wrong.
I make these statements, confident in the support I know we will have from our incredible fans and sponsors. The messages of support that I, personally, have received throughout this enormously difficult period have been absolutely amazing. Let me say “thank you” to each and every one of you. I am sorry we did not win this battle but as we all know, it is winning the war that counts.


I'll tell you what's shameful. Going in two-footed the moment lockdown was announced saying staff have to take a 50% pay cut or they can leave and then using emotional blackmail by saying she wasn't fighting the case for the glory of being in the Premiership but was fighting for those who would lose their jobs if Hearts were relegated. Shameful is (seemingly) trying to use a very generous donation from a generous benfactor as an "incentive/inducement" for clubs, that were desperate for money, to vote in your favour. Shameful is having a go at Dundee United, Raith and Cove for trying to raise money to defend themselves from legal action you instigated and accusing them of trying to cause division. Shameful is repeatedly hurling about unfounded claims of corruption/inappropriate behaviour/oppression from the governing bodies who acted as they were supposed to under extreme pressure and have today been proven to have acted lawfully. Need I go on?

[GreenCastle]

“I am sorry we did not win this battle but as we all know, it is winning the war that counts”

That final sentence in her statement!

Absolutely embarrassing - they are becoming more like the big huns by the day and I think they are actually lapping it up.

Everything Budge seems to do is a mess - just think of all the statements in her time at the club. Long may it continue - absolutely clueless.

[Mon Dieu4]

cultists. Anyone daring to even suggest they move on and prepare for next season is being destroyed over there.

That's exactly what it's like, a cult, normally cults have charismatic leaders though so shows what the personality of the average Yam is like :faf:

[truehibernian]

“You can’t fight the establishment” :greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

yeah, cus hearts have always been great at fighting the establishment?!

they represent the f****** establishment!

The sad thing is, their support seem to think they are an establishment club, all this 'the famous' nonsense..........they are a big club, in a small league, in a small country.............even Stendel hadn't heard of them (that 'famous' that he'd heard of Hibs but not them :greengrin)...........I've plenty Hearts supporting friends, long time friends too, however they each share the common trait of self importance and arrogance (on a football front) and fall back on comfort blankets (big team, 5-1, etc.). None have real humility, and all are oh so keen to have a dig at Hibs at any opportunity, even if it's irrelevant to the conversation.

I often work regularly at Tynecastle, and by far and away, their whole staff have a self appointed 'entitlement' and almost disdain for other clubs. I always laugh when I see Gary Locke wandering about like he is Ronaldo :faf: the boy was a perma-injured journeyman full back with little talent, yet struts about like he is a football 'legend'. They are what all clubs are in Scotland, a slightly big fish in a tiny pond..........no one outwith their own sphere cares about them...........but the way they act, you'd think they are power brokers in the game. They're simply not. As has been proven. They are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

[Radium]

The legal team acknowledged that it was “always going to be an uphill battle.”

One interpretation is that James Anderson and any other benefactors underwrote the action knowing it would fail. The deflection has then allowed the board to walk away blameless for the situation.

I would suggest that the strategy was a bluff looking for a settlement which never arrived.

Surely these are the circumstances that the SFA articles are there for, vexatious legal actions that only serve to damage other clubs.


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[brog]

I'll tell you what's shameful. Going in two-footed the moment lockdown was announced saying staff have to take a 50% pay cut or they can leave and then using emotional blackmail by saying she wasn't fighting the case for the glory of being in the Premiership but was fighting for those who would lose their jobs if Hearts were relegated. Shameful is (seemingly) trying to use a very generous donation from a generous benfactor as an "incentive/inducement" for clubs, that were desperate for money, to vote in your favour. Shameful is having a go at Dundee United, Raith and Cove for trying to raise money to defend themselves from legal action you instigated and accusing them of trying to cause division. Shameful is repeatedly hurling about unfounded claims of corruption/inappropriate behaviour/oppression from the governing bodies who acted as they were supposed to under extreme pressure and have today been proven to have acted lawfully. Need I go on?


Superb post!!

[makaveli1875]

“I am sorry we did not win this battle but as we all know, it is winning the war that counts”

That final sentence in her statement!

Absolutely embarrassing - they are becoming more like the big huns by the day and I think they are actually lapping it up.

Everything Budge seems to do is a mess - just think of all the statements in her time at the club. Long may it continue - absolutely clueless.

She's got some highlight reel to be fair , building a multimillion pound - glass curtained , chip serving stand and forgetting to order the seats is my favourate budged it moment

[The Count]

Final word from me on this " This is our chance lets bloody bury them on and off the field for years to come".

[truehibernian]

The legal team acknowledged that it was “always going to be an uphill battle.”

One interpretation is that James Anderson and any other benefactors underwrote the action knowing it would fail. The deflection has then allowed the board to walk away blameless for the situation.

I would suggest that the strategy was a bluff looking for a settlement which never arrived.

Surely these are the circumstances that the SFA articles are there for, vexatious legal actions that only serve to damage other clubs.


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I'd go even further, this mythical £8 million they were after would perhaps cover (most) of the vast overspend of their atrocious (over budget) stand :cb

[Aldo]

I'd go even further, this mythical £8 million they were after would perhaps cover (most) of the vast overspend of their atrocious (over budget) stand :cb

Now there’s a theory.... I would suggest that this is not far from the truth!


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[RoYO!]

She has absolutely nailed on the SFA sanction coming their way now.

It is a must.

Make it so, Rod.

[hibbyfraelibby]

I'm expecting at least another two statements before midnight.

Aye...and one of them from her doctor saying the ward sister at the Royal Edinburgh can confirm she will not be allowed visitors for some time.

[660]

Hahahah what a shower. A truly disgusting club. Looking forward to every single championship club fighting tooth and nail to keep this cretinous shower of arrogant morons down for as long as possible.

[660]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/189497-protest-guy-fawkes-masks/

At what point can an entire forum be considered to have suffered a psychotic break?

[truehibernian]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/189497-protest-guy-fawkes-masks/

At what point can an entire forum be considered to have suffered a psychotic break?

If fans are allowed into the semi final, I'd counter with Neil Doncaster masks :greengrin

[RoYO!]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/189497-protest-guy-fawkes-masks/

At what point can an entire forum be considered to have suffered a psychotic break?

About ten years ago?

[degenerated]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/189497-protest-guy-fawkes-masks/

At what point can an entire forum be considered to have suffered a psychotic break?Wait till they find out guy fawkes was a Catholic

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[hibbyfraelibby]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/189497-protest-guy-fawkes-masks/

At what point can an entire forum be considered to have suffered a psychotic break?

Guy Fawkes? They do realise he tried to destroy the establushment, failed and was executed...not to mention he was of the left foot persuasion?

[Baader]

"Winning the war"?? Who do these jokers think they are? That, from a Chairperson is, simply embarrassing. I've never taken Hearts seriously, they're a joke club. They get everything spectacularly wrong, as exemplified by this whole saga. They really are a basket case club who think they are something special. Laughable.

[Future17]

Think they will get it all. £25k for SPFL, £75k for the three clubs and £50k for themselves. £75k each

Not sure about figures but it's pretty rare to get all your costs covered.

[Logie Green]

The sad thing is, their support seem to think they are an establishment club, all this 'the famous' nonsense..........they are a big club, in a small league, in a small country.............even Stendel hadn't heard of them (that 'famous' that he'd heard of Hibs but not them :greengrin)...........I've plenty Hearts supporting friends, long time friends too, however they each share the common trait of self importance and arrogance (on a football front) and fall back on comfort blankets (big team, 5-1, etc.). None have real humility, and all are oh so keen to have a dig at Hibs at any opportunity, even if it's irrelevant to the conversation.

I often work regularly at Tynecastle, and by far and away, their whole staff have a self appointed 'entitlement' and almost disdain for other clubs. I always laugh when I see Gary Locke wandering about like he is Ronaldo :faf: the boy was a perma-injured journeyman full back with little talent, yet struts about like he is a football 'legend'. They are what all clubs are in Scotland, a slightly big fish in a tiny pond..........no one outwith their own sphere cares about them...........but the way they act, you'd think they are power brokers in the game. They're simply not. As has been proven. They are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

They’ve been like that for years. They’ve never fairly and squarely lost a match, it’s always the referee or the SFA’s fault. Even when they had one of their own refereeing their match at Dens Park in 1986 they complained that he was too scared to show bias and award them an early penalty.

I remember being in the company of Jambo years ago on a night they lost 6-0 at Celtic Park. He said “I bet that Brian McGinlay was the referee!”.

They are a bunch of bitter, deluded fools and the older ones are and always have been the worst.

[Hibernia&Alba]

They aren't going to get any sympathy from our support, but I don't blame them for being furious. If Hibs were relegated in that way, I'd be outraged. It's an extraordinary time and it's created some unique outcomes, but it's a cruel way to be relegated, when they had every chance of escaping.

Anyway, **** them :greengrin

[jacomo]

Release a statement saying they’re surprised at the decision

Release a second statement couple hours later saying they’re not really surprised at the decision


Only Hearts. Never change.


Jackie Low’s well surprised because some nice sounding lady from Edinburgh phoned her up and said it was likely PT would get a free £2m “at no cost to yourself”.

She’s now wondering if she’s become a victim of a scam.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Total delusion running right through that statement. **** me still trying to pin financial losses on someone else and seemingly forgetting the fact they finished bottom of the table.

Strong financial management and another successful season... hahahaha

[660]

Their continual references to the war are genuinely really disturbing. I always thought that odd “1914” share issue they had never got enough attention for how disgusting and tone deaf it was. Now Ann “successful businesswoman” Budge is talking about legal decisions as defeats. Bizarre.

[jacomo]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/189497-protest-guy-fawkes-masks/

At what point can an entire forum be considered to have suffered a psychotic break?


Oh no! They are going to boycott the semi final!

[Hibernia&Alba]

Their continual references to the war are genuinely really disturbing. I always thought that odd “1914” share issue they had never got enough attention for how disgusting and tone deaf it was. Now Ann “successful businesswoman” Budge is talking about legal decisions as defeats. Bizarre.

That poppy fund money doesn't steal itself. It's vital income.

[JimBHibees]

They’ve been lying to themselves so long that I do think they genuinely believed their own nonsense.

What I have found interesting in all this is that Hearts have a recently retired lawyer on their board. His expertise is company law and procedural points like this would have been right up his street.

I can only assume he was either not listened to, wasn’t asked or stepped back from giving them his view.

He would absolutely have known that they had no case.

Think it has been clear from the start Budge was petrified from the reaction of the fans if she didn't go the whole way as she had dug herself in a hole with her wild initial accusations.

[JeMeSouviens]

Think it has been clear from the start Budge was petrified from the reaction of the fans if she didn't go the whole way as she had dug herself in a trench with her wild initial accusations.

ftfy :greengrin

[AltheHibby]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/189497-protest-guy-fawkes-masks/

At what point can an entire forum be considered to have suffered a psychotic break?

My favourite comment is "Shouldn't allow threads like this.

Normal people read this forum too."

They have noticed that we read their nonsense.

[O'Rourke3]

I'm just trying to work out what war and at what stage they will claim victory. Will it be in 2097 when they win the league in the top fives division, or when the SFPL agrees to disolve in 2043 by which stage the atmosphere makes outdoor football impossible due to the destruction of the ozone layer, or even 2030 when they relocate thanks to the corrosion in the the most atmospheric stadium in the Lowland League...

They were in the wrong place at the wrong time, but in this case, they were not mistaken for a one armed man.

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[Hibernia&Alba]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/189497-protest-guy-fawkes-masks/

At what point can an entire forum be considered to have suffered a psychotic break?

Have you ever looked at Follow Follow and Rangers Media? :greengrin

[Logie Green]

Their continual references to the war are genuinely really disturbing. I always thought that odd “1914” share issue they had never got enough attention for how disgusting and tone deaf it was. Now Ann “successful businesswoman” Budge is talking about legal decisions as defeats. Bizarre.

That’s just another way of them expressing their ‘establishment’’ credentials. I also think, given the era it took place, it allows them to look down their noses at our Irish roots.

Strangely it’s only in fairly recent times that they seem to have made this an issue as previously, apart from the service at Haymarket for Remembrance Sunday, it never got mentioned.

[The 90+2]

That’s just another way of them expressing their ‘establishment’’ credentials. I also think, given the era it took place, it allows them to look down their noses at our Irish roots.

Strangely it’s only in fairly recent times that they seem to have made this an issue as previously, apart from the service at Haymarket for Remembrance Sunday, it never got mentioned.

Benefactor funds related.

[Eyrie]

What has been allowed to happen in Scottish football, where fellow member clubs and our governing bodies have stood back and allowed totally disproportionate financial damage to be imposed on 3 of its members, can only be described as shameful…


Does Budge not realise that three member clubs are automatically relegated for finishing bottom of their respective divisions every season?

[calumhibee1]

Does Budge not realise that three member clubs are automatically relegated for finishing bottom of their respective divisions every season?

Aye but they don’t usually spend a ton of money to avoid relegation and then brag about the fact they done it.. whilst still ending up bottom.

[660]

Benefactor funds related.

Nah this was happening during the Romanov era too.

[Bishop Hibee]

I go and do other stuff and come back to this :thumbsup: Budge's statement is completely bonkers. The Tasche needs to rise from his sickbed and make sure the SFA enforce a suitable sanction :wink: Cue more exuberance.

[Saturday Boy]

Nah this was happening during the Romanov era too.

The October Revolution or the submariner?

[The 90+2]

Nah this was happening during the Romanov era too.

In terms of getting the suckers to invest with war memorials and other stuff it is.. it’s a cash cow genius from Budge.

[660]

The October Revolution or the submariner?

Actually Levein is not too dissimilar to Rasputin.

[007]

Release a statement saying they’re surprised at the decision

Release a second statement couple hours later saying they’re not really surprised at the decision


Only Hearts. Never change.

I'm surprised she is actually that stupid.

[660]

In terms of getting the suckers to invest with war memorials and other stuff it is.. it’s a cash cow genius from Budge.

She’s not that competent.

[007]

Release a statement saying they’re surprised at the decision

Release a second statement couple hours later saying they’re not really surprised at the decision


Only Hearts. Never change.

I'm not surprised, she is actually that stupid.

[Saturday Boy]

Actually Levein is not too dissimilar to Rasputin.

👍

[Hibernianinc]

So, can I check?

Herts were rubbish at football, got relegated, spent ages greetin’ ‘it’s no fair’, p’d everyone off, spent a bunch of (other people’s) money trying to fight it and then got told by ‘The Law’ relegation was fair after all.

Cue- tears n snotters by poppy-thieves everywhere.

Good. 😁

[The 90+2]

She’s not that competent.

Fair point :greengrin

[007]

Got to agree with you, mentioning that they want to win a war is an appalling thing or a Chairwoman to say.

You'll have heard of the war on terror. Well she's fighting the war on error....and losing it.

[007]

FOH plea to fans of other clubs

Today we all received the decision of the SFA arbitration panel and while the Foundation board is disappointed with the result, we are totally behind the fact that the club, along with Partick Thistle, pursued the issue as far as they could. By standing up to an unworthy and indefensible strategy of causing harm to clubs, Hearts and Partick Thistle continued to shine a light on the shortcomings of our governing body and its administrative incompetence and dubious practices. We very much hope that one positive outcome of this affair will be that those in our game with professional integrity (and a demonstrable commitment to a policy that a member organisation exists to support all of its members, particularly in times of crisis) will now stand up and demand the desperately needed improvement to our sport’s administration.

The sad tribalism which this regime’s behaviour has encouraged will have a long-lasting legacy, unfortunately. Speaking as a body representing a considerable community of supporters, we believe that now is the time for new thinking and new strategies to look to a more innovative way forward for our sport, one which is founded on the well-being of the entire football community. Our view is that the current leaders of the game have demonstrated that they are simply not up to that task. They will for ever be remembered as the overseers of a very, very bleak period for Scottish football, and now is without doubt the time for those with principles to help our failing sport.

We all heard the oft-repeated remarks that a crisis is not a time for change, a position which appeared to be based on pure self-interest. However, let us give those with that opinion the benefit of the doubt. With the crisis now hopefully abating, let us now look to them to sort out this shambolic organisation which has made our game a laughing stock around the world. Let us look to them to restore some principle and respect to the leadership of Scottish football.

Hearts fans know all about rising to a challenge and bringing about positive change. Let us now hope that others in our wider community have the mettle and the desire to do likewise. The future otherwise is indeed depressing, and while Hearts and Partick Thistle are the current fall-guys, it will be the sport as a whole which ultimately will suffer. As a grassroots organisation, the Foundation of Hearts is ready and willing to join with those who care in seeking a better-led, better-organised future underpinned by integrity and vision. We would ask other fans’ bodies – and indeed club chairmen and other leaders in our sport who currently have the power – to use this moment to think beyond their own clubs, to consider how this current state of affairs has been reached and what its potential consequences may be, and quite simply to demand change.

If anyone is encouraging tribalism it's them coming out with statements like this. I didn't think it was possible but the guff this lot has come out with of late might actually make them worse than Club 1872. A fairly obvious attempt to manipulate the fans into donating more money, which will work as that lot are easily manipulated, as Budge has proven. Still, they're obviously suffering, what a shame.

They're well suited to the Hearts support because they're hard of thinking too. There's not much wrong with the Scottish game or the governance, record TV deal, crowds were at highest levels for quite some time. Just a shame the likes of Hearts, Rangers, Inverness and Partick chose to drag the Scottish game through the mud. Just because the likes of this lot and their cheerleaders in the media say there needs to be changes it doesn't mean they are right. They've been wrong every step of the way so far. Some things could be improved yes, but radical changes? No!
Where were Hearts demands for changes before all this happened? E.g. the last time they broke rules, a couple of years ago, in the League Cup by fielding an ineligible player and bizarrely only got docked 2 points instead of 3. Where were their cries of "Foul play!", "Change the governance structure!" then? Nowhere, that's where. IIRC Levein actually said something like it didn't matter because they were winning 2-0 at the time and after the player came on they let in a goal so he didn't actually help them. That's Jambo logic right there for you.

[CB_NO3]

Guy Fawkes masks? Did he not fail in his conquest as well 😂

[660]

Guy Fawkes masks? Did he not fail in his conquest as well 😂

He is pretty much only famous for being a catastrophic failure yet has been used as some bizarre icon for movements such as incels, the alt right and hearts. I think the film V for Vendetta has a lot to answer for.

[007]

No, the three judges are corrupt and didn’t investigate apparently

Honestly though, that’s what they’re saying.

Everyone is corrupt except for the club which left 200 creditors out of pocket to the tune of tens of millions.

[AltheHibby]

Guy Fawkes masks? Did he not fail in his conquest as well 😂

And he was a kafflik as well.

To be fair, he was probably the last man to enter that particular establishment with honest intentions, and therefore had the same values and integrity as them.

[gringojoe]

On the balcony running in the 1815 @ Galway, one for our Jambo friends! 😉

FOH should buy it, parade it round the PBS and enter it for the Gold Cup, Derby, St. Leger, Breeders Cup and Melbourne Cup and let the money roll in:flag:

[660]

Everyone is corrupt except for the club which left 200 creditors out of pocket to the tune of tens of millions.

To be fair 80-90% was due to Lithuanian banks and what is now Lithuania was under German control during WWI so they were only continuing their proud tradition of single handedly destroying facism and winning wars.

[Paisley Hibby]

The October Revolution or the submariner?

Nice one 🤣

[calumhibee1]

I’ve said it a million times on here but I still can’t fathom how even though their own club voted to end the season as it was knowing that they’d be relegated that some Hearts fans still think completing the season was an option. And yet they never question why they would have voted as they did. If that was an option then surely you’d be furiously questioning Ann Budge for voting to be relegated instead?

[007]

To be fair 80-90% was due to Lithuanian banks and what is now Lithuania was under German control during WWI so they were only continuing their proud tradition of single handedly destroying facism and winning wars.

😀

You've earned yourself a job as Budge's new doctor of spin.

[G B Young]

“winning the war” :rolleyes:

Why don’t they just dig trenches across Tiny and be done with it?

I see she’s already celebrating their Championship win as well.

And “strong financial management”. LOLZ!

The agreement by both clubs 'not to comment on the outcome' sure didn't last long...

As I said earlier, Low's statement was belligerent, but as predicted Budge has subsequently seen fit to weigh in with a monumental tirade of irresponsible, inflammatory nonsense. You could laugh it off as childish stuff were it not for the fact that a large percentage of their support will actually buy into it. She should be embarrassed if she reads that again in the morning, but judging by her actions and statements throughout this affair it's pretty clear she won't be.

'Winning the war'?! We're talking about a season in the Championship here (ideally more, but that's probably too much to hope for).

[007]

I’ve said it a million times on here but I still can’t fathom how even though their own club voted to end the season as it was knowing that they’d be relegated that some Hearts fans still think completing the season was an option. And yet they never question why they would have voted as they did. If that was an option then surely you’d be furiously questioning Ann Budge for voting to be relegated instead?

In the Good Friday vote they voted against the Written Resolution which included ending the season and relegation/promotion. Then in mid-May they agreed the season couldn't be played to a finish (which is not the same as voting for relegation). The legal case argued there shouldn't have been promotion or relegation.

Budge has made a lot of cock ups but not on that aspect of it. She never voted to be relegated.

[Victor]

You'll have heard of the war on terror. Well she's fighting the war on error....and losing it.

[emoji23]


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[Scott Allan Key]

Actually Levein is not too dissimilar to Rasputin.

'Ra-Ra Craig Levein, Budge's favourite love machine', you mean?

[ballengeich]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/189497-protest-guy-fawkes-masks/

At what point can an entire forum be considered to have suffered a psychotic break?

Do you have a photo of them with the masks on?

[tamig]

https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/189497-protest-guy-fawkes-masks/

At what point can an entire forum be considered to have suffered a psychotic break?
Tbf the majority appear not too keen on this campaign. Some weird suggestions though. Big screens on the pitch and pints in the stands to watch the semi. Tynecastle covered in banners slagging off the governing body. Very well thought out proposals.

[Real Emerald]

The agreement by both clubs 'not to comment on the outcome' sure didn't last long...

As I said earlier, Low's statement was belligerent, but as predicted Budge has subsequently seen fit to weigh in with a monumental tirade of irresponsible, inflammatory nonsense. You could laugh it off as childish stuff were it not for the fact that a large percentage of their support will actually buy into it. She should be embarrassed if she reads that again in the morning, but judging by her actions and statements throughout this affair it's pretty clear she won't be.

'Winning the war'?! We're talking about a season in the Championship here (ideally more, but that's probably too much to hope for).

She’s in a bubble with all the back patters thinking she’s got massive support for her actions. She can’t see the balanced view which has not been helped by the terrible unbalanced and one sided attack Tom English and Sportsound have done on the SPFL every week by incredibly ignoring the facts and blindly backing Budge. They have to be hammered by the SFA for going to court but she’s now blaming all the other clubs and chairmen and disrespecting a legal decision. That’s another charge on them I would suspect especially since they have commented after being told to zip it.

I don’t think a fine is appropriate as the money will be again be paid by someone else. It’s ridiculous that the ruling body can’t deduct points as that would hurt more than spare change from Benny Factor.

[jgl07]

I like the one about banning all visiting supporters from Tynecastle.

"Ban away fans from Tynecastle (or minimum allocation) i don’t want Celtic Rangers etc laughing at us in our ground, if we are not attending away games it has to work both ways".

I don't know if anyone got around to telling him?

[Del Boy]

I like the one about banning all visiting supporters from Tynecastle.

"Ban away fans from Tynecastle (or minimum allocation) i don’t want Celtic Rangers etc laughing at us in our ground, if we are not attending away games it has to work both ways".

I don't know if anyone got around to telling him?

oh ffs!!! These can’t be real ?

[Hibernia&Alba]

I like the one about banning all visiting supporters from Tynecastle.

"Ban away fans from Tynecastle (or minimum allocation) i don’t want Celtic Rangers etc laughing at us in our ground, if we are not attending away games it has to work both ways".

I don't know if anyone got around to telling him?

HE must mean Alloa and Arbroath.

[jgl07]

Right. Own up whoever posted this cracker on KB?

1 hour ago, "PontiusPilate said:
If I had a time machine I'd go back in time and convince our players not to win WWI that would show Duncaster."

[660]

Right. Own up whoever posted this cracker on KB?

1 hour ago, "PontiusPilate said:
If I had a time machine I'd go back in time and convince our players not to win WWI that would show Duncaster."

Too obvious whoever it is

[Hibernia&Alba]

Too obvious whoever it is

:agree:

I bet that place is hoaching with Hibbies just now :greengrin

[mjhibby]

Think it has been clear from the start Budge was petrified from the reaction of the fans if she didn't go the whole way as she had dug herself in a hole with her wild initial accusations.

Totally agree. It’s only because their nonsensical entitlement attitude that they fought this case and as you say budge had no option once the baying jambos wanted their day in court. If they never had met Benny Factor I suspect we wouldn’t have had to put up with their utterly disgraceful and shameful behaviour. I feel for Partick as every team will want to beat them. Hertz will have a budget which will dwarf other teams but that is no guarantee of success. I wonder when Benny factor will say enough is enough.

[madhatter]

Find it hilarious how many Hearts fans still think the season should’ve been played to completion. I have no idea what planet they are living on. Scottish Government has only recently permitted contact training sessions and games, and including the bizarre pre-season, most clubs are probably just about ready to play subpar in games that matter. Think standard of football will be poor for about a month, it’ll feel like friendlies to the players.

UEFA deadline and all that...even if players were able to do it (they won’t have been), how do you welcome your squad back and then immediately launch into 2 games per week in order to get league completed in time? No mini pre-season or anything. Standard of football would be horrendous and high probability of bad injuries.

I understand Hearts’ fans grievance as I’d be sticking up for my club in their position but it’s ridiculous the indoctrinated stuff being churned out - it’s everyone’s fault apart from Budge, Levein and Hearts. Sturgeon, Doncaster and all the other evil clubs are to blame. You’d honestly think people had forgotten about the pandemic...

They are becoming more like Rangers everyday. Any mention of staunch yet?

[SJNB Hibby]

:agree:

I bet that place is hoaching with Hibbies just now :greengrin

Now they're joining the English league "to get out of this backwater#

[mjhibby]

O aye. [emoji106]

What’s good in all this is Budge is still spouting and the SFA have still to decide what punishment is coming their way!


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Indeed. Benny factor better have very deep pockets. Someone should tell her high and mightyness that nobody actual cares what she says now the season is upon us. The onl reason she got column inches is because there was no footy to write about. Now shut the f.... up.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Now they're joining the English league "to get out of this backwater#

The English league doesn't want the Old Firm, so it's doubtful they will want 'The Famous' of Gorgie.

[Tambo]

If I had*a time machine I'd go*back in time and convince our players not to win WWI*that*would show Duncaster

Plenty replies with vermin for this post lol.

[InchHibby]

Totally agree. It’s only because their nonsensical entitlement attitude that they fought this case and as you say budge had no option once the baying jambos wanted their day in court. If they never had met Benny Factor I suspect we wouldn’t have had to put up with their utterly disgraceful and shameful behaviour. I feel for Partick as every team will want to beat them. Hertz will have a budget which will dwarf other teams but that is no guarantee of success. I wonder when Benny factor will say enough is enough.

Just a small addition to the above, if they, as we all believe, had beaten St Mirren in the final game we wouldn’t have heard a peep from them.

[Sammy7nil]

Indeed. Benny factor better have very deep pockets. Someone should tell her high and mightyness that nobody actual cares what she says now the season is upon us. The onl reason she got column inches is because there was no footy to write about. Now shut the f.... up.

Someone should have Mr Anderson read JKB so he can see how much he is appreciated all they go on about is it cost us nothing and any future costs are covered. No recognition they are peeing his cash against a wall whilst alienating almost every other club in Scotland. Is this really how he wants to support a community club?

[MrSmith]

Someone should have Mr Anderson read JKB so he can see how much he is appreciated all they go on about is it cost us nothing and any future costs are covered. No recognition they are peeing his cash against a wall whilst alienating almost every other club in Scotland. Is this really how he wants to support a community club?

Wonder if it’s because the Gorgie Laundromat suits his purposes?

[KDY Hibs]

👍 recording tomorrow evening, chief.

Happy days!

[Sudds_1]

Wonder if it’s because the Gorgie Laundromat suits his purposes?

Except with laundering you get some cash back🤣🤣🤣

[calumhibee1]

Hearts fans are now convincing themselves that at no point was football suspended by SG. We apparently could have played the remaining fixtures on the originally scheduled dates behind closed doors.

We had to gain permission which was only granted last minute to play our first pre season friendly only 2 weeks ago.

[JimBHibees]

Hearts fans are now convincing themselves that at no point was football suspended by SG. We apparently could have played the remaining fixtures on the originally scheduled dates behind closed doors.

We had to gain permission which was only granted last minute to play our first pre season friendly only 2 weeks ago.

Contact training only first allowed 29 June. All leagues finished end of July. Not enough time as would be minimum 2 weeks probably more to get up to speed to play real games.

[calumhibee1]

Contact training only first allowed 29 June. All leagues finished end of July. Not enough time as would be minimum 2 weeks probably more to get up to speed to play real games.

Yup. It’s always telling that every solution they come up with is either not viable, such as playing football through the pandemic, or effects other teams negatively (this usually follows on from a statement that no team should have been negatively affected which translates as “we’re Hearts, someone else should have to take the hit even if it would be infinitely more unfair”).

[bingo70]

Contact training only first allowed 29 June. All leagues finished end of July. Not enough time as would be minimum 2 weeks probably more to get up to speed to play real games.

If only three independent experienced judges could do a thorough investigation into that to see if they were right or not.

Surely that would put any argument they had to bed so we could all move on.

[jacomo]

Totally agree. It’s only because their nonsensical entitlement attitude that they fought this case and as you say budge had no option once the baying jambos wanted their day in court. If they never had met Benny Factor I suspect we wouldn’t have had to put up with their utterly disgraceful and shameful behaviour. I feel for Partick as every team will want to beat them. Hertz will have a budget which will dwarf other teams but that is no guarantee of success. I wonder when Benny factor will say enough is enough.


Budge was threatening legal action in March. She got them all revved up in the first place.

[greenpaper55]

Budge was threatening legal action in March. She got them all revved up in the first place.

Exactly, she thought bluff and bluster would carry the day and then had to go through with the legal challenge when her hand was called.

[calumhibee1]

Budge was threatening legal action in March. She got them all revved up in the first place.

She also said she’d accept Hearts fate around that time.

She also says on a weekly basis that she’ll make no further comment. Only to then go on and make further comment numerous times.

She says she’s surprised at the outcome of arbitration to then say an hour or two later that she’s not surprised at the outcome.

She’s an absolute slaver and is as two faced as they come.

[Billy Whizz]

Just read her statement, what an arrogant person she is

[hibbyfraelibby]

Can I just put a wee call out for Stranraer, the forgetten team in all this.

They suffered the same fate as the belligerent two.

They fought their corner through the appropriate football channels.

They did not instigate a legal challenge.

They appear to have shunned the Bodge's bribe of legal expenses.

They accepted in the end that they were relegated and have kept a dignified silence during the court case.

They deserve some respect for accepting their fate and not trying to destroy the game in Scotland

[Aldo]

She also said she’d accept Hearts fate around that time.

She also says on a weekly basis that she’ll make no further comment. Only to then go on and make further comment numerous times.

She says she’s surprised at the outcome of arbitration to then say an hour or two later that she’s not surprised at the outcome.

She’s an absolute slaver and is as two faced as they come.

April 10th is when it was reported they would accept relegation!

Cannot wait to see her coupon on the Documentary when she’s told they lost their arbitration case!


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[Bostonhibby]

If only three independent experienced judges could do a thorough investigation into that to see if they were right or not.

Surely that would put any argument they had to bed so we could all move on.Just to be sure I'd let Hearts select one to make sure all their overwhelmingly convincing arguments are fully taken into account and voted for.

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[I'm_cabbaged]

When do they go up in front of the SFA? That could be a right hoot 😂

[Caversham Green]

Total delusion running right through that statement. **** me still trying to pin financial losses on someone else and seemingly forgetting the fact they finished bottom of the table.

Strong financial management and another successful season... hahahaha

"Strong financial management" - based on their 2019 expenses they will have spent over £700,000 for each point in 2019-20. The equivalent cost for St Mirren was £176,000 and Ross County was £152,000. Of the more successful teams, Aberdeen's points cost around £378,000 and Hibs came in at £313,000.

Their financial mismanagement is bordering on criminal and Budge is taking the piss out of the support and the Bennies.

[Hibs Class]

When do they go up in front of the SFA? That could be a right hoot 😂

Think it's a week on Thursday, although pretty sure they also issued a statement about that being too soon

[Hibs Class]

"Strong financial management" - based on their 2019 expenses they will have spent over £700,000 for each point in 2019-20. The equivalent cost for St Mirren was £176,000 and Ross County was £152,000. Of the more successful teams, Aberdeen's points cost around £378,000 and Hibs came in at £313,000.

Their financial mismanagement is bordering on criminal and Budge is taking the piss out of the support and the Bennies.

They don't do financial literacy. They're now claiming that FOH has raised over £10m, and that the SPFL has stolen 80% of this, or possibly 100% of it....presumably by not giving them their £8m claim!

[Aldo]

"Strong financial management" - based on their 2019 expenses they will have spent over £700,000 for each point in 2019-20. The equivalent cost for St Mirren was £176,000 and Ross County was £152,000. Of the more successful teams, Aberdeen's points cost around £378,000 and Hibs came in at £313,000.

Their financial mismanagement is bordering on criminal and Budge is taking the piss out of the support and the Bennies.

Financial mismanagement is in their roots. In December Budge mentioned a financial shortfall and then a few months back the black hole went from 3, then to 5 and at the last count 8 million. However in amongst all this she states that Benny has put money into the club that will secure their finances for next 5 years?

I really do want her to stay on because I want to see more financial/business mismanagement and statements.


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[007]

Someone should have Mr Anderson read JKB so he can see how much he is appreciated all they go on about is it cost us nothing and any future costs are covered. No recognition they are peeing his cash against a wall whilst alienating almost every other club in Scotland. Is this really how he wants to support a community club?

Hopefully he now sees supporting the whole Scottish football community via the SPFL Trust as a more effective use of his money. Hearts could do with kerning how to run themselves properly without reliance on benefactor money to keep them in the black.

[weecounty hibby]

Can I just put a wee call out for Stranraer, the forgetten team in all this.

They suffered the same fate as the belligerent two.

They fought their corner through the appropriate football channels.

They did not instigate a legal challenge.

They appear to have shunned the Bodge's bribe of legal expenses.

They accepted in the end that they were relegated and have kept a dignified silence during the court case.

They deserve some respect for accepting their fate and not trying to destroy the game in Scotland

Aye, good call that. Stranraer have acted with a bit of dignity, accepted their fate after a bit of argument and did what was best for Scottish football. The big and famous Jambos however wouldn't understand dignity if it smacked them in the face with a frying pan

[mjhibby]

Seems the I’ll feeling caused by this last few months will take time to heal. I missed the nominees from the championship to SPFL board. Only Inverness and Dunfermline put forward candidates and with two seats per league you’d think both were a shoe in. Wrong. The pars voted through ,no problem. Inverness only got two votes. Hertz and Inverness so Alloa we’re persuaded to put forward a candidate and he was voted in. The healing needs to come from hertz and Inverness as right now they are as popular as a fart in a spacesuit. Looking forward to sportsound and a teary Tom English. Hugh Kevin’s was superb on superscoreboard last night. Pity it will revert to old firm drivel in a few days time.

[007]

Can I just put a wee call out for Stranraer, the forgetten team in all this.

They suffered the same fate as the belligerent two.

They fought their corner through the appropriate football channels.

They did not instigate a legal challenge.

They appear to have shunned the Bodge's bribe of legal expenses.

They accepted in the end that they were relegated and have kept a dignified silence during the court case.

They deserve some respect for accepting their fate and not trying to destroy the game in Scotland

Well said. It's just a shame with them being over 100 miles from Edinburgh it's not too easy to get along and support the once in a while.

[jeffers]

Does anyone know if the tv crew are still filming the documentary ? I'd hate to think they stopped before it got to the arbitration panel's decision.

[lucky]

With her second ramblings surely that must be in breech of the arbitration panel settlement. They previously said that all sides agreed to say nothing now less than 24 hours gone she’s released two statements?

The SFA must take action against this woman, she is damaging Scottish football. Her nonsense and claims are wrong on most fronts.

Not once has she acknowledged that her team were 4 points adrift playing poorly having wasted millions off fans money poor players on inflated contracts. She further wasted millions on an unfinished stand. She does not own Hearts but refuses to hand over the reigns, she has taken them for a ride. Alarm bells should have been ringing when she did the lap of honour with the Championship trophy. No self respecting owner would ever do that.

[007]

April 10th is when it was reported they would accept relegation!

Cannot wait to see her coupon on the Documentary when she’s told they lost their arbitration case!


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Yeah, can't wait to see her doing Roger Moore eyebrows acting surprised one minute and then not surprised the next.

[Mon Dieu4]

Does anyone know if the tv crew are still filming the documentary ? I'd hate to think they stopped before it got to the arbitration panel's decision.

It's still filming, someone tweeted the production company and asked and they confirmed it, can't wait

[jeffers]

It's still filming, someone tweeted the production company and asked and they confirmed it, can't wait

Brilliant news, thanks. I have visions of it being like a remake of The Office with Ann Brent taking centre stage.

[CentreLine]

With her second ramblings surely that must be in breech of the arbitration panel settlement. They previously said that all sides agreed to say nothing now less than 24 hours gone she’s released two statements?

The SFA must take action against this woman, she is damaging Scottish football. Her nonsense and claims are wrong on most fronts.

Not once has she acknowledged that her team were 4 points adrift playing poorly having wasted millions off fans money poor players on inflated contracts. She further wasted millions on an unfinished stand. She does not own Hearts but refuses to hand over the reigns, she has taken them for a ride. Alarm bells should have been ringing when she did the lap of honour with the Championship trophy. No self respecting owner would ever do that.

Beat me to it. This outburst absolutely has to be dealt with by the authorities.
This rogue club have spent months trying to disrupt Scottish football after spending millions trying to buy their way out of a relegation spot. That fails.

They invent a wholly unjustified compensation figure in an attempt to scare Scottish football in to submission. That fails.
They knowingly break the rules and by-pass the football authorities to go to court. That fails.
They have lived in a fantasy world where they promote the idea that there is something underhanded going on at the SPFL, an organisation that they are a full, contributing, member of. That fails.
They force the SPFL to reveal all documents pertaining the the circumstances surrounding the ending of season 2019/20, convinced they will find a “Smoking gun”. That fails.
They argue their now pathetically weak case in front of three, eminently qualified and independent, judges. That fails
And now their rhetoric is to kick off at the result, somehow suggesting that they are in a “War” against something or someone.

If they cannot find some dignity soon I sincerely hope the authorities throw the book at them. This one team **** show must stop and if it means sticking them at the bottom tier of Scottish football to cool their jets then maybe that is the answer.

[Spike Mandela]

When do they go up in front of the SFA? That could be a right hoot 😂

The media narrative from all the Hearts apologists, the usual suspects, from now till any SFA sanction will be of victimhood, severe injustice and poor little Hearts being kicked when they’re down by the big, bad football authorities.

Add in poor wee Partick and I ‘d be very surprised if any action is taken. I suspect they will be threatened with sanction should they not finally accept the decision and move on.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Bill Leckie was on Sky news earlier saying all they had to do was beat St. Mirren, calling budge out for forcing pay cuts the day after lock down was announced and basically saying tough s***, you had a bigger budget than County, Accies and Saints combined but you still finnished bottom.
He pointed out the example of Peterborough missing out on the playoffs by a baw hair on average points per game, did they whinge? No because there were far greater things going on in the world, 45,000 dead and counting here alone.
Let's get him v Tom English please.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Financial mismanagement is in their roots. In December Budge mentioned a financial shortfall and then a few months back the black hole went from 3, then to 5 and at the last count 8 million. However in amongst all this she states that Benny has put money into the club that will secure their finances for next 5 years?

I really do want her to stay on because I want to see more financial/business mismanagement and statements.


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oh don’t worry, when she finally does clear out her desk she will be replaced by the fans themselves. More comedic catastrophic mismanagement virtually guaranteed!

I mean just look at the state of JKB... would anyone seriously let that lot loose on running a football club? Well, apparently Hearts will.

[Ronniekirk]

oh don’t worry, when she finally does clear out her desk she will be replaced by the fans themselves. More comedic catastrophic mismanagement virtually guaranteed!

I mean just look at the state of JKB... would anyone seriously let that lot loose on running a football club? Well, apparently Hearts will.

That’s never going to happen all she wants is Thier money Once again she has manipulated the fans into increasing monthly contributions despite wasting Thier investment to date


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[malcolm]

23815

Mmm thinks benny maybe my miss diAnn don’t know what she is a doing..

[Caversham Green]

Beat me to it. This outburst absolutely has to be dealt with by the authorities.
This rogue club have spent months trying to disrupt Scottish football after spending millions trying to buy their way out of a relegation spot. That fails.

They invent a wholly unjustified compensation figure in an attempt to scare Scottish football in to submission. That fails.
They knowingly break the rules and by-pass the football authorities to go to court. That fails.
They have lived in a fantasy world where they promote the idea that there is something underhanded going on at the SPFL, an organisation that they are a full, contributing, member of. That fails.
They force the SPFL to reveal all documents pertaining the the circumstances surrounding the ending of season 2019/20, convinced they will find a “Smoking gun”. That fails.
They argue their now pathetically weak case in front of three, eminently qualified and independent, judges. That fails
And now their rhetoric is to kick off at the result, somehow suggesting that they are in a “War” against something or someone.

If they cannot find some dignity soon I sincerely hope the authorities throw the book at them. This one team **** show must stop and if it means sticking them at the bottom tier of Scottish football to cool their jets then maybe that is the answer.

And to put the tin lid on it, none of that would have happened if they had beaten St Mirren in a single game in March.

[Fritz]

It’s not easy picking a favourite part of Queen Anne’s statement, but I think “My rant is over for now” has to win it for me. Firstly the admission that it is indeed a rant, then the promise that she will return for some more ranting at a later date, and finally the fact that she actually continues to rant on for another 4 paragraphs anyway, culminating in the particularly crass line about winning wars. Incredible stuff.

[heretoday]

Remind me why we couldn't have finished our season like they did in England.

[mjhibby]

Bill Leckie was on Sky news earlier saying all they had to do was beat St. Mirren, calling budge out for forcing pay cuts the day after lock down was announced and basically saying tough s***, you had a bigger budget than County, Accies and Saints combined but you still finnished bottom.
He pointed out the example of Peterborough missing out on the playoffs by a baw hair on average points per game, did they whinge? No because there were far greater things going on in the world, 45,000 dead and counting here alone.
Let's get him v Tom English please.

Leckie hadn’t held back in his condemnation of hertz and their utter hypocrisy of nobody being disadvantaged then of course trying to stop the theee teams getting promoted. Only ever puts the boot in to us when we genuinely clock up. Always writes interesting pieces.

[mjhibby]

It’s not easy picking a favourite part of Queen Anne’s statement, but I think “My rant is over for now” has to win it for me. Firstly the admission that it is indeed a rant, then the promise that she will return for some more ranting at a later date, and finally the fact that she actually continues to rant on for another 4 paragraphs anyway, culminating in the particularly crass line about winning wars. Incredible stuff.

She is the head of a so called top club in Scotland but behaves if she owns a pub team given a few dodgy refereeing decisions. It’s to the media’s eternal shame and their rush to the lowest common denominator to get readers that’s she has been indulged for so long. She’s contradicted herself countless times but she is never challenged. Farcical. Can you imagine Sir tom farmer or Ron Gordon ranting for four paragraphs. Me neither and therein lies the difference in the two clubs. One has class, is dignified and is not a rent a quote club. The other is the gorgie losers living in their own wee bubble.

[Ozyhibby]

Remind me why we couldn't have finished our season like they did in England.

Because the Scottish govt have only given permission for football to start this week.


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[sean04]

It’s amazing how Anne budge has managed to deflect all the attention away from how bad hearts have been over the past 18months. Bad managers, bad signings and a horrendous run of form seem to have been forgotten about. It’s now everybody else’s fault for them being relegated

[jacomo]

Remind me why we couldn't have finished our season like they did in England.


Because Hearts agreed to end it early.

[hibsbollah]

Great response as ever from the great man


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0juSJ6f3X24

[granty6_2]

Serious question.

Does anyone actually think they will be promoted as things stand?

Off field disruption ✅
Huge squad ✅ (many of them likely to be seeing out costly contracts)
Motivation in the gutter ✅
Massive budget cuts across the whole club, with a reduced income ✅
A funding model based on success on the pitch (😂😂😂) ✅
A manager with a history of playing eye bleeding football ✅
Fans likely to turn on them very quickly when / if things don’t start well ✅
A chair woman with an awful track record of running the club ✅
No TV money ✅
Max away supporters (Raith, Dunfermline, Dundee of c800) ✅

Remember when they ripped off loads of local businesses and didn’t pay their bills....,karma is a bitch 😂😂😂🖕🖕🖕

[roo62]

Beat me to it. This outburst absolutely has to be dealt with by the authorities.
This rogue club have spent months trying to disrupt Scottish football after spending millions trying to buy their way out of a relegation spot. That fails.

They invent a wholly unjustified compensation figure in an attempt to scare Scottish football in to submission. That fails.
They knowingly break the rules and by-pass the football authorities to go to court. That fails.
They have lived in a fantasy world where they promote the idea that there is something underhanded going on at the SPFL, an organisation that they are a full, contributing, member of. That fails.
They force the SPFL to reveal all documents pertaining the the circumstances surrounding the ending of season 2019/20, convinced they will find a “Smoking gun”. That fails.
They argue their now pathetically weak case in front of three, eminently qualified and independent, judges. That fails
And now their rhetoric is to kick off at the result, somehow suggesting that they are in a “War” against something or someone.

If they cannot find some dignity soon I sincerely hope the authorities throw the book at them. This one team **** show must stop and if it means sticking them at the bottom tier of Scottish football to cool their jets then maybe that is the answer.
Great post. Spot on. 👍

[we are hibs]

It's quite something how upset they are getting about Doncaster being "delighted". Apparently he shouldn't because people will lose their jobs at Tynecastle now. Short memories from the same people who were taking great delight at the prospect of that happening at Easter Road less than a month ago.

[Dublin07]

Remind me why we couldn't have finished our season like they did in England.

We have a different government with different rules. Ours is based on keeping folk alive in England it's based on keeping money flowing.
Scottish teams were not allowed to resume training until 29/6 and not allowed to resume matches until 1/8.
UEFA had set a date of 3/8 to complete last season so unless we were going to play 8 matches per team in 3 days it was not possible!

[Since90+2]

Serious question.

Does anyone actually think they will be promoted as things stand?

Off field disruption ✅
Huge squad ✅ (many of them likely to be seeing out costly contracts)
Motivation in the gutter ✅
Massive budget cuts across the whole club, with a reduced income ✅
A funding model based on success on the pitch (😂😂😂) ✅
A manager with a history of playing eye bleeding football ✅
Fans likely to turn on them very quickly when / if things don’t start well ✅
A chair woman with an awful track record of running the club ✅
No TV money ✅
Max away supporters (Raith, Dunfermline, Dundee of c800) ✅

Remember when they ripped off loads of local businesses and didn’t pay their bills....,karma is a bitch 😂😂😂🖕🖕🖕

They probably will. Although they are absolutely ***** hence the reason they finished bottom there isn't a lot of competition in that league next season. It's Hearts though so you never know they could end up 3rd or 4th.

[Ozyhibby]

They probably will. Although they are absolutely ***** hence the reason they finished bottom there isn't a lot of competition in that league next season. It's Hearts though so you never know they could end up 3rd or 4th.

They’ll come back up. The squads in that league will have been greatly reduced as well and there is no money for them to replace players.


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[proud_and_green]

Think it has been clear from the start Budge was petrified from the reaction of the fans if she didn't go the whole way as she had dug herself in a hole with her wild initial accusations.I think that is it in a nutshell.

Pride and prejudice has started many wars and broken many a fool!



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[Pagan Hibernia]

Serious question.

Does anyone actually think they will be promoted as things stand?

Off field disruption ✅
Huge squad ✅ (many of them likely to be seeing out costly contracts)
Motivation in the gutter ✅
Massive budget cuts across the whole club, with a reduced income ✅
A funding model based on success on the pitch (😂😂😂) ✅
A manager with a history of playing eye bleeding football ✅
Fans likely to turn on them very quickly when / if things don’t start well ✅
A chair woman with an awful track record of running the club ✅
No TV money ✅
Max away supporters (Raith, Dunfermline, Dundee of c800) ✅

Remember when they ripped off loads of local businesses and didn’t pay their bills....,karma is a bitch 😂😂😂🖕🖕🖕

I’ll be amazed if they don’t win the division comfortably. The monthly FOH cash alone will see them considerably better off than any other team in the wee league.

i actually think relegation will turn out to be a blessing for them. They’ll rebuild and come back stronger. Had they managed to stay up this season they probably would have been just as rank next season

[Aldo]

She is the head of a so called top club in Scotland but behaves if she owns a pub team given a few dodgy refereeing decisions. It’s to the media’s eternal shame and their rush to the lowest common denominator to get readers that’s she has been indulged for so long. She’s contradicted herself countless times but she is never challenged. Farcical. Can you imagine Sir tom farmer or Ron Gordon ranting for four paragraphs. Me neither and therein lies the difference in the two clubs. One has class, is dignified and is not a rent a quote club. The other is the gorgie losers living in their own wee bubble.

You do however realise that if LD on RG produces a statement like that the media outlets and In particular BBC Sportsound would rip it to absolute spreads and slate the club big time!


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[calumhibee1]

Remind me why we couldn't have finished our season like they did in England.

Because we have only just been given permission to play football in Scotland and UEFA wanted the leagues finished by 3rd August. There would have been 49 games to be played over two days between 12 clubs. The UK government allowed football in England and even then the less rich League One and below also called their league like ours did.

[Since452]

"My rant is over for now". If Ron or Leeann had said that on an official club statement I'd be cringing. Amateur club at best.

[Hibs Class]

Serious question.

Does anyone actually think they will be promoted as things stand?

Off field disruption ✅
Huge squad ✅ (many of them likely to be seeing out costly contracts)
Motivation in the gutter ✅
Massive budget cuts across the whole club, with a reduced income ✅
A funding model based on success on the pitch (😂😂😂) ✅
A manager with a history of playing eye bleeding football ✅
Fans likely to turn on them very quickly when / if things don’t start well ✅
A chair woman with an awful track record of running the club ✅
No TV money ✅
Max away supporters (Raith, Dunfermline, Dundee of c800) ✅

Remember when they ripped off loads of local businesses and didn’t pay their bills....,karma is a bitch 😂😂😂🖕🖕🖕

I'd expect them to win the league, they certainly should, but in the event of disruption due to another Covid spike over the winter we could be left with the leagues either voided or the clubs voting to call the leagues with no promotions or relegations, which hearts would presumably approve of.

[Aldo]

It's quite something how upset they are getting about Doncaster being "delighted". Apparently he shouldn't because people will lose their jobs at Tynecastle now. Short memories from the same people who were taking great delight at the prospect of that happening at Easter Road less than a month ago.

Again they need not look far for the mismanagement of their club and it’s sure as hell not Doncaster. They cannot see it for the smokescreen made by Budge. Step out of your bubble and you will see!

Funny how they always look to blame someone else for their own demise.

If I was Doncaster I’d be delighted as I had done my job correctly and stood up to the scrutiny of the courts and an independent arbitration panel, who may I add unanimously found no wrong doing!

Gulp it doon and enjoy the championship!


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[Joe6-2]

"My rant is over for now". If Ron or Leeann had said that on an official club statement I'd be cringing. Amateur club at best.

Especially as she then continues to rant!

[Peevemor]

Especially as she then continues to rant!

But she says "for now" which hopefuly means that there's more to come.

We've still the award of legal costs/expenses to look forward to, followed by their SFA disciplinary hearing.

We're not finished yet!

[Gloucester Hibs]

I'd expect them to win the league, they certainly should, but in the event of disruption due to another Covid spike over the winter we could be left with the leagues either voided or the clubs voting to call the leagues with no promotions or relegations, which hearts would presumably approve of.

Not wishing to see a second spike, but that would be beautiful. Would they stick to their "principles"? Or would the spin/revisionism machine kick into gear as they justify calling the league on points-per-game.

[Geo_1875]

Originally Posted by JimBHibees:
Think it has been clear from the start Budge was petrified from the reaction of the fans if she didn't go the whole way as she had dug herself in a hole with her wild initial accusations.

Imagine if they'd shown some dignity (yes I know) and accepted the majority decision of the SPFL members at the beginning. They would have saved themselves a lot of money and a lot of heartache. It would have been a boring summer for sure.

[Irish_Steve]

Someone has probably mentioned this already but can we get #takeyourmedicine t-shirts made up.

Would love it if a player wore one and showed it after scoring a goal, even funnier if it was a St. Mirren player!

[Peevemor]

I dont think we've looked at the FOH statement/email enough, which for me is far worse than Budge's

“Today we all received the decision of the SFA arbitration panel and while the Foundation board is disappointed with the result, we are totally behind the fact that the club, along with Partick Thistle, pursued the issue as far as they could.


“By standing up to an unworthy and indefensible strategy of causing harm to clubs, Hearts and Partick Thistle continued to shine a light on the shortcomings of our governing body and its administrative incompetence and dubious practices.

The "indefensible strategy" which cased them harm is relegation for those that end the season in bottom place. Do they want to do awaay with it?


“We very much hope that one positive outcome of this affair will be that those in our game with professional integrity (and a demonstrable commitment to a policy that a member organisation exists to support all of its members, particularly in times of crisis) will now stand up and demand the desperately needed improvement to our sport’s administration.


“The sad tribalism which this regime’s behaviour has encouraged will have a long-lasting legacy, unfortunately.


“Speaking as a body representing a considerable community of supporters, we believe that now is the time for new thinking and new strategies to look to a more innovative way forward for our sport, one which is founded on the well-being of the entire football community.

The SPFL board could have used executive powers to end the season and impose promotions and relegations. Instead they went to the clubs, 80%+backed the board's proposals. Those causing division and tribalism are those who refused to accpt the majority decision.


“Our view is that the current leaders of the game have demonstrated that they are simply not up to that task. They will for ever be remembered as the overseers of a very, very bleak period for Scottish football, and now is without doubt the time for those with principles to help our failing sport.

3 independant judges/legal minds decided otherwise.


“We all heard the oft-repeated remarks that a crisis is not a time for change, a position which appeared to be based on pure self-interest. However, let us give those with that opinion the benefit of the doubt.

Hearts' ridiculous proposal for league reconstruction wasn't based wholly on self interest?


“With the crisis now hopefully abating, let us now look to them to sort out this shambolic organisation which has made our game a laughing stock around the world. Let us look to them to restore some principle and respect to the leadership of Scottish football.

What have the SPFL done to make the game a laughing stock? Leagues all over Europe have been called in different ways. It's Hearts' repeated whining that has diminished opinion of our league.


“Hearts fans know all about rising to a challenge and bringing about positive change. Let us now hope that others in our wider community have the mettle and the desire to do likewise.


“The future otherwise is indeed depressing, and while Hearts and Partick Thistle are the current fall-guys, it will be the sport as a whole which ultimately will suffer.


“As a grassroots organisation, the Foundation of Hearts is ready and willing to join with those who care in seeking a better-led, better-organised future underpinned by integrity and vision.


“We would ask other fans’ bodies – and indeed club chairmen and other leaders in our sport who currently have the power – to use this moment to think beyond their own clubs, to consider how this current state of affairs has been reached and what its potential consequences may be, and quite simply to demand change.”

What change do they want to see? It sounds like change for change's sake.

[FilipinoHibs]

Beat me to it. This outburst absolutely has to be dealt with by the authorities.
This rogue club have spent months trying to disrupt Scottish football after spending millions trying to buy their way out of a relegation spot. That fails.

They invent a wholly unjustified compensation figure in an attempt to scare Scottish football in to submission. That fails.
They knowingly break the rules and by-pass the football authorities to go to court. That fails.
They have lived in a fantasy world where they promote the idea that there is something underhanded going on at the SPFL, an organisation that they are a full, contributing, member of. That fails.
They force the SPFL to reveal all documents pertaining the the circumstances surrounding the ending of season 2019/20, convinced they will find a “Smoking gun”. That fails.
They argue their now pathetically weak case in front of three, eminently qualified and independent, judges. That fails
And now their rhetoric is to kick off at the result, somehow suggesting that they are in a “War” against something or someone.

If they cannot find some dignity soon I sincerely hope the authorities throw the book at them. This one team **** show must stop and if it means sticking them at the bottom tier of Scottish football to cool their jets then maybe that is the answer.

Great post. Sums why so many are disgusted at their dispicable behaviour.

[007]

I dont think we've looked at the FOH statement/email enough, which for me is far worse than Budge's

“Today we all received the decision of the SFA arbitration panel and while the Foundation board is disappointed with the result, we are totally behind the fact that the club, along with Partick Thistle, pursued the issue as far as they could.


“By standing up to an unworthy and indefensible strategy of causing harm to clubs, Hearts and Partick Thistle continued to shine a light on the shortcomings of our governing body and its administrative incompetence and dubious practices.

The "indefensible strategy" which cased them harm is relegation for those that end the season in bottom place. Do they want to do awaay with it?


“We very much hope that one positive outcome of this affair will be that those in our game with professional integrity (and a demonstrable commitment to a policy that a member organisation exists to support all of its members, particularly in times of crisis) will now stand up and demand the desperately needed improvement to our sport’s administration.


“The sad tribalism which this regime’s behaviour has encouraged will have a long-lasting legacy, unfortunately.


“Speaking as a body representing a considerable community of supporters, we believe that now is the time for new thinking and new strategies to look to a more innovative way forward for our sport, one which is founded on the well-being of the entire football community.

The SPFL board could have used executive powers to end the season and impose promotions and relegations. Instead they went to the clubs, 80%+backed the board's proposals. Those causing division and tribalism are those who refused to accpt the majority decision.


“Our view is that the current leaders of the game have demonstrated that they are simply not up to that task. They will for ever be remembered as the overseers of a very, very bleak period for Scottish football, and now is without doubt the time for those with principles to help our failing sport.

3 independant judges/legal minds decided otherwise.


“We all heard the oft-repeated remarks that a crisis is not a time for change, a position which appeared to be based on pure self-interest. However, let us give those with that opinion the benefit of the doubt.

Hearts' ridiculous proposal for league reconstruction wasn't based wholly on self interest?


“With the crisis now hopefully abating, let us now look to them to sort out this shambolic organisation which has made our game a laughing stock around the world. Let us look to them to restore some principle and respect to the leadership of Scottish football.

What have the SPFL done to make the game a laughing stock? Leagues all over Europe have been called in different ways. It's Hearts' repeated whining that has diminished opinion of our league.


“Hearts fans know all about rising to a challenge and bringing about positive change. Let us now hope that others in our wider community have the mettle and the desire to do likewise.


“The future otherwise is indeed depressing, and while Hearts and Partick Thistle are the current fall-guys, it will be the sport as a whole which ultimately will suffer.


“As a grassroots organisation, the Foundation of Hearts is ready and willing to join with those who care in seeking a better-led, better-organised future underpinned by integrity and vision.


“We would ask other fans’ bodies – and indeed club chairmen and other leaders in our sport who currently have the power – to use this moment to think beyond their own clubs, to consider how this current state of affairs has been reached and what its potential consequences may be, and quite simply to demand change.”

What change do they want to see? It sounds like change for change's sake.

When it comes to putting out statements FoH are to Hearts, what Club 1872 are to Rangers.

[Peevemor]

When it comes to putting out statements FoH are to Hearts, what Club 1872 are to Rangers.

Except FOH are meant to be taking control of Hearts in the near future. Scary biscuits!

[Mon Dieu4]

Except FOH are meant to be taking control of Hearts in the near future. Scary biscuits!

That's when the real fun will start, Budge and her exploits have just been an appetiser for the main course that's yet to come

[overdrive]

'Ra-Ra Craig Levein, Budge's favourite love machine', you mean?

If fans are allowed into the semi final, this has to be sung

[Bostonhibby]

When it comes to putting out statements FoH are to Hearts, what Club 1872 are to Rangers.Jeez, reading that diatribe it's no wonder they've been so easily blind sided over what they've got for their donations.

Budge must enjoy patronising and ultimately ignoring what they're all about as she decides what she fancies diverting their donations off to next.

Another £1m finest pitch in the world might be a good idea for the championship season ahead.

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[G B Young]

I dont think we've looked at the FOH statement/email enough, which for me is far worse than Budge's

“Today we all received the decision of the SFA arbitration panel and while the Foundation board is disappointed with the result, we are totally behind the fact that the club, along with Partick Thistle, pursued the issue as far as they could.


“By standing up to an unworthy and indefensible strategy of causing harm to clubs, Hearts and Partick Thistle continued to shine a light on the shortcomings of our governing body and its administrative incompetence and dubious practices.

The "indefensible strategy" which cased them harm is relegation for those that end the season in bottom place. Do they want to do awaay with it?


“We very much hope that one positive outcome of this affair will be that those in our game with professional integrity (and a demonstrable commitment to a policy that a member organisation exists to support all of its members, particularly in times of crisis) will now stand up and demand the desperately needed improvement to our sport’s administration.


“The sad tribalism which this regime’s behaviour has encouraged will have a long-lasting legacy, unfortunately.


“Speaking as a body representing a considerable community of supporters, we believe that now is the time for new thinking and new strategies to look to a more innovative way forward for our sport, one which is founded on the well-being of the entire football community.

The SPFL board could have used executive powers to end the season and impose promotions and relegations. Instead they went to the clubs, 80%+backed the board's proposals. Those causing division and tribalism are those who refused to accpt the majority decision.


“Our view is that the current leaders of the game have demonstrated that they are simply not up to that task. They will for ever be remembered as the overseers of a very, very bleak period for Scottish football, and now is without doubt the time for those with principles to help our failing sport.

3 independant judges/legal minds decided otherwise.


“We all heard the oft-repeated remarks that a crisis is not a time for change, a position which appeared to be based on pure self-interest. However, let us give those with that opinion the benefit of the doubt.

Hearts' ridiculous proposal for league reconstruction wasn't based wholly on self interest?


“With the crisis now hopefully abating, let us now look to them to sort out this shambolic organisation which has made our game a laughing stock around the world. Let us look to them to restore some principle and respect to the leadership of Scottish football.

What have the SPFL done to make the game a laughing stock? Leagues all over Europe have been called in different ways. It's Hearts' repeated whining that has diminished opinion of our league.


“Hearts fans know all about rising to a challenge and bringing about positive change. Let us now hope that others in our wider community have the mettle and the desire to do likewise.


“The future otherwise is indeed depressing, and while Hearts and Partick Thistle are the current fall-guys, it will be the sport as a whole which ultimately will suffer.


“As a grassroots organisation, the Foundation of Hearts is ready and willing to join with those who care in seeking a better-led, better-organised future underpinned by integrity and vision.


“We would ask other fans’ bodies – and indeed club chairmen and other leaders in our sport who currently have the power – to use this moment to think beyond their own clubs, to consider how this current state of affairs has been reached and what its potential consequences may be, and quite simply to demand change.”

What change do they want to see? It sounds like change for change's sake.

A 'laughing stock around the world'. Again with the over-inflated view of their relevance. This saga will have caused not a ripple of interest around the world except among some ex-pat Scottish football fans.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

I’ll be amazed if they don’t win the division comfortably. The monthly FOH cash alone will see them considerably better off than any other team in the wee league.

i actually think relegation will turn out to be a blessing for them. They’ll rebuild and come back stronger. Had they managed to stay up this season they probably would have been just as rank next season

I think we just need to look back a very short few years to see what happened the last time they got relegated. I’m sure the same thing was mentioned about them regrouping and coming back stronger.

On paper they should come back but Hearts just seem to like having an echo chamber which will just keep them doing the same sort of thing over and over again.

[lord bunberry]

Great response as ever from the great man


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0juSJ6f3X24
:faf:
Uh oh eh then that’s happened. God I miss him.

[Peevemor]

A 'laughing stock around the world'. Again with the over-inflated view of their relevance. This saga will have caused not a ripple of interest around the world except among some ex-pat Scottish football fans.

The process proposed by the SPFL board and supported by the vast majority of clubs was absolutely fine given the unfortunate but very serious circumstances. It's not all of Scottish football that became a laughing stock, just 1 or 2 clubs.

[Caversham Green]

When you think about it our administrators have been more competent that those of France and Belgium. In both of those cases the courts ordered them to rethink their strategies whereas ours got it right first time as approved by the legal process.

Well done Neil Doncaster.

[greenginger]

The process proposed by the SPFL board and supported by the vast majority of clubs was absolutely fine given the unfortunate but very serious circumstances. It's not all of Scottish football that became a laughing stock, just 1 or 2 clubs.


And the BBC sports team and a few pundits :faf::faf:

[lord bunberry]

Again they need not look far for the mismanagement of their club and it’s sure as hell not Doncaster. They cannot see it for the smokescreen made by Budge. Step out of your bubble and you will see!

Funny how they always look to blame someone else for their own demise.

If I was Doncaster I’d be delighted as I had done my job correctly and stood up to the scrutiny of the courts and an independent arbitration panel, who may I add unanimously found no wrong doing!

Gulp it doon and enjoy the championship!


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They can also spare me the fake sympathy for people losing their jobs, while they wish other clubs go bust and also hoping for a second wave of Covid which would cost more lives and jobs. They are utter lowlife on that forum.

[A Hi-Bee]

Originally Posted by JimBHibees:
Think it has been clear from the start Budge was petrified from the reaction of the fans if she didn't go the whole way as she had dug herself in a hole with her wild initial accusations.

Imagine if they'd shown some dignity (yes I know) and accepted the majority decision of the SPFL members at the beginning. They would have saved themselves a lot of money and a lot of heartache. It would have been a boring summer for sure.

Hertz and Dignity in the one sentance no I will not go for that one, that shower are just about as low as you can go, with a collective mindset that says please take my money my maroon pounds and I will always fight the battle for you queen anne, ****in bunch o muppets.
Hertz **** them, and fine them a record amount, old Anderson will pay it for them anyways.
:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin :greengrin:greengrin

[A Hi-Bee]

And the BBC sports team and a few pundits :faf::faf:

Where is he hiding now the flump and twisted wee man that he is, we need Tam to guide us on how Scottish Football should be run.
:thumbsup:

[Hibby70]

Sturgeon wearing her Hibs away strip on just to wind up the puddle drinkers

[SuperAllyMcleod]

'Ra-Ra Craig Levein, Budge's favourite love machine', you mean?

This post has not received nearly as much credit as t deserves! Outstanding work. [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122] [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

[Pagan Hibernia]

I think we just need to look back a very short few years to see what happened the last time they got relegated. I’m sure the same thing was mentioned about them regrouping and coming back stronger.

On paper they should come back but Hearts just seem to like having an echo chamber which will just keep them doing the same sort of thing over and over again.

they had a good first season back last time before the rot set in under cathro and Levein

[JimBHibees]

A 'laughing stock around the world'. Again with the over-inflated view of their relevance. This saga will have caused not a ripple of interest around the world except among some ex-pat Scottish football fans.

Spot on outside of Scotland no one cares a jot about Scottish football.

[Tynie01011973]

Where is he hiding now the flump and twisted wee man that he is, we need Tam to guide us on how Scottish Football should be run.
:thumbsup:

Not been seen on Twitter since the decision announced!

[007]

A 'laughing stock around the world'. Again with the over-inflated view of their relevance. This saga will have caused not a ripple of interest around the world except among some ex-pat Scottish football fans.


Spot on outside of Scotland no one cares a jot about Scottish football.

How unlike that lot to get something wrong.

[ian omand]

That’s just another way of them expressing their ‘establishment’’ credentials. I also think, given the era it took place, it allows them to look down their noses at our Irish roots.

Strangely it’s only in fairly recent times that they seem to have made this an issue as previously, apart from the service at Haymarket for Remembrance Sunday, it never got mentioned.

Absolutely correct.

[jacomo]

Not wishing to see a second spike, but that would be beautiful. Would they stick to their "principles"? Or would the spin/revisionism machine kick into gear as they justify calling the league on points-per-game.


As you know, it depends entirely on what situation benefits them. Paragons of selfless integrity as they are.

[Joe6-2]

Spot on outside of Scotland no one cares a jot about Scottish football.

Sky love Sellick and Steven gerards rangers (too give them their full title)

[Since90+2]

Tom English being torn a new one on today's Sportsound podcast by the Raith Chairman.

[007]

Sportsound podcast now up, featuring Levein and English with only one item on the agenda.
Surprise surprise English starts by laying into Doncaster for saying in his statement yesterday he was pleased and vindicated and also says governance needs to be looked at.

[007]

Tom English being torn a new one on today's Sportsound podcast by the Raith Chairman.

Have only just started listening so look forward to that bit. 😀

[Spike Mandela]

Sportsound podcast now up, featuring Levein and English with only one item on the agenda.
Surprise surprise English starts by laying into Doncaster for saying in his statement yesterday he was pleased and vindicated and also says governance needs to be looked at.

He takes his line straight from Budge, has done for years. It’ll be tears and snotters from him for years now. Reasoned, impartial utterances will be a stranger to him. Pointless pundit now.

[HoboHarry]

Spot on outside of Scotland no one cares a jot about Scottish football.
Outside of British based events I've seen two guys wearing Celtic tops and that's it in 19 years of living here. Not a single Sevco top anywhere......

[jacomo]

The process proposed by the SPFL board and supported by the vast majority of clubs was absolutely fine given the unfortunate but very serious circumstances. It's not all of Scottish football that became a laughing stock, just 1 or 2 clubs.


It’s totally irrelevant.

Hearts weren’t proposing changes to the process, voting system or any other aspect of the governance of Scottish football. All they wanted was a temporary change to the top tier in the SPFL.

If they’ve got ideas to reform Scottish football, lets here them!

Actually, let’s not... the past four months have been insufferable.

[calumhibee1]

Sportsound podcast now up, featuring Levein and English with only one item on the agenda.
Surprise surprise English starts by laying into Doncaster for saying in his statement yesterday he was pleased and vindicated and also says governance needs to be looked at.

Governance needs to be looked at on the back of the governing body getting every single step of this process right - something which has been agreed legally by 4 different judges, QC’s etc.

Aye, ok Tom.

[JeMeSouviens]

Outside of British based events I've seen two guys wearing Celtic tops and that's it in 19 years of living here. Not a single Sevco top anywhere......

I thought the Rangers were huge in Texas. :wink:

[Mikey]

Serious question.

Does anyone actually think they will be promoted as things stand?



I would think that they'll win the league, but if they're not up to speed quickly it's possible that Dundee could get ahead of them and stay there. Hearts in a play off against St Mirren would be hilarious :hilarious

[HoboHarry]

I thought the Rangers were huge in Texas. :wink:
I was careful to say Sevco :greengrin

[grunt]

Tom English being torn a new one on today's Sportsound podcast by the Raith Chairman.This will annoy a lot of people on here. Tom English gets it all wrong again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53568066

[A Hi-Bee]

This will annoy a lot of people on here. Tom English gets it all wrong again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53568066

Just when I wiz wondering where he was hiding, he says a lot and in the end he says nothing really, guy is a hypocritical clown of the highest order. His mouth is awe broon as we used to say, back in the day.
:thumbsup:

[EI255]

This will annoy a lot of people on here. Tom English gets it all wrong again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53568066Why is he doing this? No one likes him. The only friends he has are a few of his BBC buddies (I suspect not all) and no doubt some Jumbos. He's disliked at Celtic and Rangers (more Celtic).

Time to go chase an egg English, ya ticket!

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[Peevemor]

This will annoy a lot of people on here. Tom English gets it all wrong again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53568066

He's half admitting that Hearts, having only won 4 games all season, maybe deserve to be relegated but it's far more unfair on Thistle.

I agree to an extent, but Budge with her reconstruction task force could have suggested 12-12-10-10, which probably would have passed, but she didn't.

I thnk English should direct his whining elsewhere.

[EI255]

I would think that they'll win the league, but if they're not up to speed quickly it's possible that Dundee could get ahead of them and stay there. Hearts in a play off against St Mirren would be hilarious :hilariousDundee are way, way too inconsistent and have been for a long time.

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[jacomo]

This will annoy a lot of people on here. Tom English gets it all wrong again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53568066


I want Tom English to leave his job asap. He either can’t or won’t accept that there were perfectly valid reasons why reconstruction should not happen just to save Hearts, and that the vast majority of clubs were in agreement.

By not even attempting to reflect the majority view, he is doing Scottish football a disservice.

He’s trying to conflate this with sponsorship and commercial ambition but that is a totally separate issue.

[One Day Soon]

That Guy Fawkes thread on OneLeagueBack is an absolute belter.

[Hibiza]

This post has not received nearly as much credit as t deserves! Outstanding work. [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122] [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Brill

[Since452]

This will annoy a lot of people on here. Tom English gets it all wrong again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53568066

Tom English has lost all credibility as a journalist and is basically a laughing stock on Twitter. He knows it too. Dug his heels in with his original thoughts on the situation and was too stubborn and arrogant to change his opinion. Made himself look extremely foolish.

[Hibs07p]

What about the corrupt referees? They might hand out their own SFA punishment in the championship? I hope they don,t suffer with paranoia as well as delusion over on oneleagueback. :greengrin

GGTTH
Scottish Cup Winners 2016

[Keith_M]

Has the Hearts supporting Guardian sports writer with the face like a slapped ar5e had a rant about the verdict yet?

[A Hi-Bee]

That Guy Fawkes thread on OneLeagueBack is an absolute belter.

A few barrals o gunpowder would not go amiss under that daft sainsbury frontage they have but at the end o the day was he not demotted as well! Lost the heid at the establishment or something like that.
:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin :greengrin:greengrin

[A Hi-Bee]

Has the Hearts supporting Guardian sports writer with the face like a slapped ar5e had a rant about the verdict yet?

Nope he is still covering the Chelsea flower show.

[One Day Soon]

By now, most of you will know that the SFA Arbitration Panel has found against us in our “unfair prejudice” challenge, following the relegation of Hearts, Partick Thistle and Stranraer, as a consequence of the early termination of Season 2019/20.

For those of us involved throughout this process, sadly once again, we cannot say we are totally surprised at the outcome, despite firmly believing in the power of the arguments and evidence we put forward.
I want to take this opportunity to thank our legal team, who despite the result, were quite simply first-class. They acknowledged from the outset that this would be an uphill battle, but nonetheless it was a battle we felt we had to fight. We could not simply sit back and accept the unfairness that was being meted out to us.
What has been allowed to happen in Scottish football, where fellow member clubs and our governing bodies have stood back and allowed totally disproportionate financial damage to be imposed on 3 of its members, can only be described as shameful… as indeed, should the SPFL’s recent self-congratulatory statement.
For too long, Chairmen and Owners have stood on the sidelines bemoaning the decision-making processes, the perceived lack of leadership, the lack of commercialism; the general shortcomings, as they see it, of Scottish football. However, if they really want things to change, it will take more than words. They will have to stand-up and be counted.
We tried to do just that. Unfortunately, the very fact that we tried and lost, will cause many others to be even more wary. I can hear them now... “You can’t fight the rules; you can’t fight the establishment; we must support the centre.” Sadly, I see little cause for optimism that things will improve any time soon in Scottish football. I hope I am wrong.
My rant is over for now. While frustrated, disappointed and angry with much that has gone on over the last 4 months, we must now move forward.
We will suffer serious financial losses as a consequence of losing this particular battle but we will survive and we will come through this stronger than ever. We have suffered a series of blows over recent months, but our spirit has never been stronger. We will continue to run our Club with honesty, transparency and integrity. These are the values we have always adhered to and we will continue to keep them front and centre of everything we do.
We will also lead with strong financial management and importantly, with confidence. We look forward, once again, to celebrating a successful year, culminating in winning the Championship and getting back to where we belong. Robbie has done it before and with your support, we can make this a year to remember for the right reasons as well as the wrong.
I make these statements, confident in the support I know we will have from our incredible fans and sponsors. The messages of support that I, personally, have received throughout this enormously difficult period have been absolutely amazing. Let me say “thank you” to each and every one of you. I am sorry we did not win this battle but as we all know, it is winning the war that counts.



Budge was only ever in this legal battle - and agreed to take on the role of leading a reconstruction task force - in order to create a more just, sustainable and healthy Scottish football structure. This was never about the interests of Hearts alone.

So she'll be carrying straight on with the fight for reconstruction now right? She'll be demanding that a more equitable sharing of the money coming into the game across all leagues and clubs takes place too won't she? And if a second wave of Coronavirus hits us through the autumn and winter leading to cancelled games and fixture pile-ups in the coming season her position is absolutely going to be consistent with what she's been arguing legally this season, that there should - in fairness to all clubs - be no promotion or relegation, isn't it?

I mean, stopping the reconstruction campaigning for fairness now or arguing a different position on promotion next season would just be rank, self-serving, dishonest, establishment hypocrisy wouldn't it?

[HoboHarry]

Craig Levein stamping his feet and making a James Hunt of himself again. Nothing more than it's no fair and ah dinnae like it.....

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53567563

[Peevemor]

Craig Levein stamping his feet and making a James Hunt of himself again. Nothing more than it's no fair and ah dinnae like it.....

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53567563

It's a disgrace. It's been shockingly handled. They haven't been vindicated.

He doesn't say what the SPFL did wrong or were meant to do differently.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Craig Levein stamping his feet and making a James Hunt of himself again. Nothing more than it's no fair and ah dinnae like it.....

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53567563

He made an absolute pigs ear of the job(s) he was entrusted with. Hearts are where they are because of him and Budge and surely even most jambos, aggrieved as they are, wont be taken in by Levein trying to take the heat off himself

[AltheHibby]

As he's never been a winner he doesn't understand that celebrating winning is the natural order of things.