Johnson Out

[jeffers]

So far he's had 1 window, the players that came in are where? Cabraja can't get a game in front of an aging Lewis, Kenneh has been punted to Ross Co, rumours of Tavares out on loan too, a young striker with limited game time out on loan and probably away, McKirdy lucky if he gets 15 mins mist games but a good bench warmer. Bradley back at the club and immediately punted to Livingston and straight into their team who are in 4th. Mackay and Tait not taken to training camp and immediately punted on loan when the season started.

There's been zero improvement in fact we've gone backwards at an alarming rate, he ranks in clichés and comes over more like David Brent than a football manager.

Clearly none of these poor signings are down to Johnson, J-C the poor guy had to accept players he didn’t want. None of it is his fault, when he was happy to praise them and tell everyone he had final sign off he was being forced to say that. Someone else must be selecting Campbell at right back, Porteous in midfield, starting McKirdy only twice in two of our hardest away games, Fish in his first start as a right back at Tynecastle.

[paddy1875]

Didn't win it though! And you can say what you want but there's massive problems with this squad. I hope we do progress as well though seriously doubt we will As imo our midfield hasn't any steel , drive or creativity in it and is basically soft and pretty S***e . Think you need to think back to the end of both Ross's and Lennon's last while at Hibs to see that they might not get a better tune out of this squad and what has Stubbs achieved at clubs since he's left us? As to your question about him taking us forward and progressing it will depend on the recruitment of players and if we can shift ones like Henderson out too though as I've said he's left all clubs in a better position than when he took over so if recruitment get the finger out I'd say yes I would trust him . I didn't join Hibs net to argue or fall out with anyone so I do appreciate you being reasonable even though we have different views . If Johnson goes the other thing that bothers me is some of the names put forward for the job who imo are no better than LJ and some are a hell of a lot worse which still leaves us with the same problems team and recruitment wise !

Yes indeed he didn’t win it mate you’re right. Iv I sit down and think about possible managers to take over the reigns of pull a few out. These 3 were just names off the top of my dish.

Na it’s an enjoyable chat about people’s perspectives and I respect yours. It’s a decent chat I’m not taking any hard feelings over anything.

We can just agree to disagree


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[Trinity Hibee]

Win on Sunday i think its safe to say LJ keeps his job to the summer at least unless we were to somehow get relegated. Lose and who knows what happens

[bingo70]

Clearly none of these poor signings are down to Johnson, J-C the poor guy had to accept players he didn’t want. None of it is his fault, when he was happy to praise them and tell everyone he had final sign off he was being forced to say that. Someone else must be selecting Campbell at right back, Porteous in midfield, starting McKirdy only twice in two of our hardest away games, Fish in his first start as a right back at Tynecastle.

That’s it, the players he is getting rid of are the ones he brought in, not some deadwood the club have been trying to shift for years. He took the credit when he thought they were good, he can’t distance himself from that when it turns out they’re not.

As you say as well though, not all problems can be put down to recruitment. He’s also not making the most of what he has.

I think what happens after Sunday will be influenced by how we play Sunday too. If we lose a narrow game to a better team (which hearts are just now), I think most of us are big enough to be able to deal with that. If we don’t turn up again and a strange team is selected then I think people will rightly lose their **** and that’s when a change could be forced to happen.

[Donegal Hibby]

All the David Brent chat is getting irritating, the guy speaks the way he speaks, he should be judged on results alone, he came in on the back of two dreadful transfer windows, swiftly followed by a third this summer, he's now starting to ship out players that no one has any qualms about leaving, so that's a plus for me. Let's give him this window and the next and see where we are, a good DOF will help as will Ian Gordon having nothing to do with recruitment. Do I think Lee Johnston will be a resounding success at Hibs, probably not but we are desperate for some stability in the medium term at least.
The David Brent chat is very irritating actually and dare I say very jambo like as well!

[GreenGray]

The David Brent chat is very irritating actually and dare I say very jambo like as well!

Think it was Sunderland fans who made the comparison first tbf!


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[Donegal Hibby]

Yes indeed he didn’t win it mate you’re right. Iv I sit down and think about possible managers to take over the reigns of pull a few out. These 3 were just names off the top of my dish.

Na it’s an enjoyable chat about people’s perspectives and I respect yours. It’s a decent chat I’m not taking any hard feelings over anything.

We can just agree to disagree


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I'm going to stick with Johnson for now in the hope he can turn it around by getting some quality players in ( specially midfielders) . No disrespect to another poster who wants to sack Johnson and appoint McKay on here but there's another example of one that I would say isn't as good as LJ and absolutely fills me with fear .I've also enjoy different opinions though I don't agree with quite a lot and yours too though I do have respect as well for yours as I know at the end of the day we all just want the best for Hibs 👍

[Donegal Hibby]

Think it was Sunderland fans who made the comparison first tbf!


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Probably was GG though I don't see any point in us Hibs supporters keeping it going either TBF

[Box 17]

We've now got Nisbet back and what a difference he's made. Where would we be in the league if he'd been playing all season?
Boyle out long term is a major blow and would also have made a big difference.
People complaining that Stevenson still gets a regular game, but we sold our up and coming left back in Doig the minute there was interest.
Maybe I've been following Hibs too long because I've seen many Hibs teams over the years and this is far from the worst.

[Since452]

We've now got Nisbet back and what a difference he's made. Where would we be in the league if he'd been playing all season?
Boyle out long term is a major blow and would also have made a big difference.
People complaining that Stevenson still gets a regular game, but we sold our up and coming left back in Doig the minute there was interest.
Maybe I've been following Hibs too long because I've seen many Hibs teams over the years and this is far from the worst.

We've played some of the best football I've seen for years this season.

[Donegal Hibby]

He’s had a transfer window. In the main he signed a lot of pish, some of whom he’s already trying to move on, but I should trust him to do better in subsequent windows. Why ? You keeping bringing up SAF as if there is any realistic comparison. He’d achieved more at Aberdeen than Johnson has his whole career. Why not give Butcher more time then ? He’d done a very good job at ICT and didn’t get a chance to bring in his own players. Interesting you suggest Maloney shouldn’t have been given more time, yet he had less of chance than Johnson, the latter doing a worse job yet you are advocating he gets more time :confused:

Alex Miller had some good spells but imo he definitely did get too long, his record in the derby matches for example was horrendous. Stubbs arrived with hardly any players so he deserved the time he got to turn it around, but if it hadn’t won the Scottish Cup I don’t think he could have had any complaints if we’d dismissed him.

I wanted us to go for McInnes when Ross was sacked and thought it was a no brainer when we dismissed Maloney. Instead the guys doing the recruitment went for the slavering prick they have appointed.
The recruitment has been poor as it has in the past 2 windows before LJ which we now know there's a problem with the club admitting to it . I think LJ has trusted the recruitment to much and your right he is trying to move players on that came in under him (which is his fault too I might add)) and some that's been here before him as well which I see as a step in the right direction . I'm hoping that lessons have been learnt by the manager on how bad the recruitments been for over a year now and he demands better !.

Seriously why would I want to give Butcher time when I didn't want him as Hibs manager in the first place? I thought his football was ( s***e) very much like Martindale's. There's no comparing LJ with Maloney imo , ones managed previously and done quite well the other a rookie and a very Cathro like appointment , it was a crazy appointment and we would have been far better of backing Ross than appointing Maloney though a lot of fans got there wish on Ross going and we got Maloney then who's team looked like they didn't know how to score ( big step backwards imo) which is why I bring up SAF who man u fans wanted sacked even my mate who is a big arsenal fan offered to drive Arteta to ER last year when i joked about taking him as Hibs manager , sometimes it's worth sticking with a manager thru a bad time .

Alex miller was Hibs manager in probably the worst and hardest times in our history and I don't think it's entirely fair to blame him for our horrendous derby run as we were in a bad way and nearly went out of business , that and sadly Hertz having a decent team then didn't help . He did build a decent side and we went on to beat rangers in the semi final who imo were a better team than the one we played in 2016 . Going on to lift the cup is imo our greatest achievement with what happened to us. Personally I wouldn't have sacked Stubbs if he hadn't won the cup final as he built a decent side and had us playing some nice football . Suppose this shows you are probably more quicker to want a manager gone than me .

McInnes was dismissed at Bristol city just like Johnson btw and wouldn't have been a bad choice as his record is pretty good though you would have to get use to the awful style of football his teams play which wouldn't be for me . All managers slaver or talk s***e at times even the best ones in the world do . I find LJ does it a lot less than Neilson or Goodwin btw and personally at times I think he talks well .As to him being a P***k I don't see him like that at all rather a decent enough guy . Though as for McInnes backing and playing Lafferty after his sectarian comments then I think your " P " word suits him more . Just my opinion though 👍

[blackpoolhibs]

That’s it, the players he is getting rid of are the ones he brought in, not some deadwood the club have been trying to shift for years. He took the credit when he thought they were good, he can’t distance himself from that when it turns out they’re not.

As you say as well though, not all problems can be put down to recruitment. He’s also not making the most of what he has.

I think what happens after Sunday will be influenced by how we play Sunday too. If we lose a narrow game to a better team (which hearts are just now), I think most of us are big enough to be able to deal with that. If we don’t turn up again and a strange team is selected then I think people will rightly lose their **** and that’s when a change could be forced to happen.

I'm not, and i doubt many are.

[Trinity Hibee]

We've played some of the best football I've seen for years this season.

Genuine question, what games are you referring to? I’ve been to all home games this season (none away) and I’m struggling to think of them.

[superfurryhibby]

Clearly none of these poor signings are down to Johnson, J-C the poor guy had to accept players he didn’t want. None of it is his fault, when he was happy to praise them and tell everyone he had final sign off he was being forced to say that. Someone else must be selecting Campbell at right back, Porteous in midfield, starting McKirdy only twice in two of our hardest away games, Fish in his first start as a right back at Tynecastle.

I'm finding it increasingly hard to believe that Johnson targeted many/any of the players we signed. He says what the club want him to say. No doubt like many other football managers who were out of work and desperate for a job, he's probably accepted conditions that were imposed as part of the offer.

I asked before and no one really engaged with the question, but here it is again. How common is it for managers these days to just manage what is provided to them by the club?

That said, it doesn't negate the poor tactics , team selections and lack of any coherent playing style.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We've played some of the best football I've seen for years this season.

Unless by years you mean 2 or 3 years I couldn’t disagree with this more.

[Since452]

I'm finding it increasingly hard to believe that Johnson targeted many/any of the players we signed. He says what the club want him to say. No doubt like many other football managers who were out of work and desperate for a job, he's probably accepted conditions that were imposed as part of the offer.

I asked before and no one really engaged with the question, but here it is again. How common is it for managers these days to just manage what is provided to them by the club?

That said, it doesn't negate the poor tactics , team selections and lack of any coherent playing style.

Think he wanted Taverez not sure about the others. I'm getting frustrated vibes from him similar to Jack Ross.

[B.H.F.C]

I'm finding it increasingly hard to believe that Johnson targeted many/any of the players we signed. He says what the club want him to say. No doubt like many other football managers who were out of work and desperate for a job, he's probably accepted conditions that were imposed as part of the offer.

I asked before and no one really engaged with the question, but here it is again. How common is it for managers these days to just manage what is provided to them by the club?

That said, it doesn't negate the poor tactics , team selections and lack of any coherent playing style.

I don’t think we do things any differently to the vast majority of other clubs these days. It’s just that the folk we’ve had doing what they do have been totally incompetent.

Take Hearts for example, nobody can tell me the three signings they’ve made this month are players that the manager was personally aware of, watched and targeted.

As with anyone I think there will be a bit of balance where managers do have their own players in mind but it’ll never be every player that comes in.

[bingo70]

Genuine question, what games are you referring to? I’ve been to all home games this season (none away) and I’m struggling to think of them.

I’m as critical as anybody this season but there have been a number of games we’ve played well, nearly always against 10 men I think but never the less there has been moments.

Off the top of my head…..

Aberdeen at home
Kilmarnock at home
Rangers once they went down to 9 men.
St Mirren at home
Livingston at home.
We obviously finished the game against Hearts strongly, I can’t remember if i thought we played well in the first hour or not.
St Johnstone at home we were cruising and playing well until Magennis got sent off.

Away from home I thought we played well second half against Livi, we battered them and should have got something out the game.

We also played well away at Dundee Utd I thought, Big Mikes goal being disallowed was ridiculous and killed us that game.

Think that’s it, actually far more games than I thought I would remember, if we can just make sure the other team gets someone sent off every week we are laughing.

[OldEast]

I'm finding it increasingly hard to believe that Johnson targeted many/any of the players we signed. He says what the club want him to say. No doubt like many other football managers who were out of work and desperate for a job, he's probably accepted conditions that were imposed as part of the offer.

I asked before and no one really engaged with the question, but here it is again. How common is it for managers these days to just manage what is provided to them by the club?

That said, it doesn't negate the poor tactics , team selections and lack of any coherent playing style.

I agree 100% with your first paragraph and have said so for ages. As for the rest, I haven't a clue.

[Real Emerald]

I'm finding it increasingly hard to believe that Johnson targeted many/any of the players we signed. He says what the club want him to say. No doubt like many other football managers who were out of work and desperate for a job, he's probably accepted conditions that were imposed as part of the offer.

I asked before and no one really engaged with the question, but here it is again. How common is it for managers these days to just manage what is provided to them by the club?

That said, it doesn't negate the poor tactics , team selections and lack of any coherent playing style.

Hearts went down the road of signing a cast of a thousand duds for a good few seasons looking for gems. It didn’t work and they’ve now moved to signing safer proven players. We on the other hand tried to copy that failed policy and it also failed, who would have guessed,

The policy is as much to blame as the incompetence of the recruitment team. The manager will not be scouting players.

[Trinity Hibee]

I’m as critical as anybody this season but there have been a number of games we’ve played well, nearly always against 10 men I think but never the less there has been moments.

Off the top of my head…..

Aberdeen at home
Kilmarnock at home
Rangers once they went down to 9 men.
St Mirren at home
Livingston at home.
We obviously finished the game against Hearts strongly, I can’t remember if i thought we played well in the first hour or not.
St Johnstone at home we were cruising and playing well until Magennis got sent off.

Away from home I thought we played well second half against Livi, we battered them and should have got something out the game.

We also played well away at Dundee Utd I thought, Big Mikes goal being disallowed was ridiculous and killed us that game.

Think that’s it, actually far more games than I thought I would remember, if we can just make sure the other team gets someone sent off every week we are laughing.

Cant say I agree with all of that but not having a go at your or the original post. The Aberdeen one for me was the only one that came to mind to be honest.

Yes, Rangers for the last 20 mins was one way traffic against 9 men.

You still have to beat what is in front you but given 3 of these were against 9 or 10 men for huge parts of the game you are going to dominate.

Got to be honest it’s got to the point for me when I can’t really remember the last time I was at a game and thought I really enjoyed that from a performance side. It’s been far too long.

[Is It On....]

The recruitment has been poor as it has in the past 2 windows before LJ which we now know there's a problem with the club admitting to it . I think LJ has trusted the recruitment to much and your right he is trying to move players on that came in under him (which is his fault too I might add)) and some that's been here before him as well which I see as a step in the right direction . I'm hoping that lessons have been learnt by the manager on how bad the recruitments been for over a year now and he demands better !.

Seriously why would I want to give Butcher time when I didn't want him as Hibs manager in the first place? I thought his football was ( s***e) very much like Martindale's. There's no comparing LJ with Maloney imo , ones managed previously and done quite well the other a rookie and a very Cathro like appointment , it was a crazy appointment and we would have been far better of backing Ross than appointing Maloney though a lot of fans got there wish on Ross going and we got Maloney then who's team looked like they didn't know how to score ( big step backwards imo) which is why I bring up SAF who man u fans wanted sacked even my mate who is a big arsenal fan offered to drive Arteta to ER last year when i joked about taking him as Hibs manager , sometimes it's worth sticking with a manager thru a bad time .

Alex miller was Hibs manager in probably the worst and hardest times in our history and I don't think it's entirely fair to blame him for our horrendous derby run as we were in a bad way and nearly went out of business , that and sadly Hertz having a decent team then didn't help . He did build a decent side and we went on to beat rangers in the semi final who imo were a better team than the one we played in 2016 . Going on to lift the cup is imo our greatest achievement with what happened to us. Personally I wouldn't have sacked Stubbs if he hadn't won the cup final as he built a decent side and had us playing some nice football . Suppose this shows you are probably more quicker to want a manager gone than me .

McInnes was dismissed at Bristol city just like Johnson btw and wouldn't have been a bad choice as his record is pretty good though you would have to get use to the awful style of football his teams play which wouldn't be for me . All managers slaver or talk s***e at times even the best ones in the world do . I find LJ does it a lot less than Neilson or Goodwin btw and personally at times I think he talks well .As to him being a P***k I don't see him like that at all rather a decent enough guy . Though as for McInnes backing and playing Lafferty after his sectarian comments then I think your " P " word suits him more . Just my opinion though 👍

The recruitment has been poor since Mathie was sacked; This time last year Ben Kensall was waxing lyrical about how good our recruitment has been and even 9 months ago there were still people making excuses for Ian Gordon being appointed Head of Recruitment - thankfully that boat has now sailed.

In respect of Alex Miller, he often used to say that the derby was just another game worth 3 points. Technically correct but, in my opinion, an unacceptable statement for any manager to make about a local derby; can you imagine him saying that if he has been manager of Rangers?

He, as you point out, won the League Cup which I went too see with my dad and was absolutely brilliant but, in my opinion, that that was the bright spot in an otherwise mediocre tenure that that was characterised by an unexciting style of football, poor youth player development and, off course, the terrible derby record.

[MWHIBBIES]

Cant say I agree with all of that but not having a go at your or the original post. The Aberdeen one for me was the only one that came to mind to be honest.

Yes, Rangers for the last 20 mins was one way traffic against 9 men.

You still have to beat what is in front you but given 3 of these were against 9 or 10 men for huge parts of the game you are going to dominate.

Got to be honest it’s got to the point for me when I can’t really remember the last time I was at a game and thought I really enjoyed that from a performance side. It’s been far too long.

Perhaps Livi, like 3 weeks ago?

[Heisenberg]

The recruitment has been poor since Mathie was sacked; This time last year Ben Kensall was waxing lyrical about how good our recruitment has been and even 9 months ago there were still people making excuses for Ian Gordon being appointed Head of Recruitment - thankfully that boat has now sailed.

In respect of Alex Miller, he often used to say that the derby was just another game worth 3 points. Technically correct but, in my opinion, an unacceptable statement for any manager to make about a local derby; can you imagine him saying that if he has been manager of Rangers?

He, as you point out, won the League Cup which I went too see with my dad and was absolutely brilliant but, in my opinion, that that was the bright spot in an otherwise mediocre tenure that that was characterised by an unexciting style of football, poor youth player development and, off course, the terrible derby record.

Our recruitment has been poor for a lot longer than that. It went downhill as soon as McGinn/McGeouch left and we failed to replace them or really build for a future without Gray/McGregor/Hanlon/Stevenson properly.

[MrSmith]

The recruitment has been poor since Mathie was sacked; This time last year Ben Kensall was waxing lyrical about how good our recruitment has been and even 9 months ago there were still people making excuses for Ian Gordon being appointed Head of Recruitment - thankfully that boat has now sailed.

In respect of Alex Miller, he often used to say that the derby was just another game worth 3 points. Technically correct but, in my opinion, an unacceptable statement for any manager to make about a local derby; can you imagine him saying that if he has been manager of Rangers?

He, as you point out, won the League Cup which I went too see with my dad and was absolutely brilliant but, in my opinion, that that was the bright spot in an otherwise mediocre tenure that that was characterised by an unexciting style of football, poor youth player development and, off course, the terrible derby record.Not entirely true, we had flair players such as Archibald, Jackson, Michael O'Neil playing for us and as for youth, Paul Kane, Gordon Hunter, John Collins, Mickey Weir, Calum Milne and few others too. I'm no big fan of Alex Millar but what a day the team gave us on 12/11/1988 at Tynecastle :D As you say though, his style of play and post match chat was uninspiring to say the least.

Couldn't resist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mITf9HtBsE

[J-C]

Even with a DOF, the manager will still have input, there will be meetings where a strategy is put in place,type of players etc, and a list drawn up. It's then the DOF job to make these signings happen. This was similar to what we had with Craig, Mathie and LD in charge.

[jeffers]

I'm finding it increasingly hard to believe that Johnson targeted many/any of the players we signed. He says what the club want him to say. No doubt like many other football managers who were out of work and desperate for a job, he's probably accepted conditions that were imposed as part of the offer.

I asked before and no one really engaged with the question, but here it is again. How common is it for managers these days to just manage what is provided to them by the club?

That said, it doesn't negate the poor tactics , team selections and lack of any coherent playing style.

I doubt he targeted them all, but refuse to believe he didn’t want some of them. He was quick to tell us how good guys like Yoaun were going to be. As has been mentioned he claimed to have been tracking Tavares for a while. Happy to claim the credit, yet when the majority turn out to be pish he starts to tell people none of the signings were his bar McGeady. Nor do I believe he was so desperate for a job he took charge of us subject to the terms that are being suggested. He’s an experienced manager who is setting himself up for a fall.

Then as you say poor tactics, team selection and no clear style of play. Even if he gets a free ride on signings those other points have the alarm bells ringing, that’s before he even opens his mouth and comes out with his regular bs.

[MrSmith]

I doubt he targeted them all, but refuse to believe he didn’t want some of them. He was quick to tell us how good guys like Yoaun were going to be. As has been mentioned he claimed to have been tracking Tavares for a while. Happy to claim the credit, yet when the majority turn out to be pish he starts to tell people none of the signings were his bar McGeady. Nor do I believe he was so desperate for a job he took charge of us subject to the terms that are being suggested. He’s an experienced manager who is setting himself up for a fall.

Then as you say poor tactics, team selection and no clear style of play. Even if he gets a free ride on signings those other points have the alarm bells ringing, that’s before he even opens his mouth and comes out with his regular bs.

Johnson is a slaver! I have no sympathy nor empathy in the bank for him so, sooner he is gone the better.

[Logie]

I’m honestly surprised he is still in post. The fact we have signed not a single player so far this window seems to me the board have no faith in him to potentially bring in who he wants. Yes we needed players out but that has been happening. Glaring holes in our team with no players even being rumoured concerns me. If we are waiting on a DOF this should have been dealt with already surely the process did not start the day BK told the media it would/should have been started weeks before. Club feels a joke just now.

[Is It On....]

Not entirely true, we had flair players such as Archibald, Jackson, Michael O'Neil playing for us and as for youth, Paul Kane, Gordon Hunter, John Collins, Mickey Weir, Calum Milne and few others too. I'm no big fan of Alex Millar but what a day the team gave us on 12/11/1988 at Tynecastle :D As you say though, his style of play and post match chat was uninspiring to say the least.

Couldn't resist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mITf9HtBsE

My memory is that those "youth players" you mention pre-dated him arriving at Easter Road. What I won't debate is the goal and celebration of the Archigod goal. The only time I can recall similar celebrations (excl Hampden 2016) is the Paul Hanlon equaliser at Tynecastle. It was absolute bedlam; my friend lost a shoe and we couldn't wait to get back to the Centre Court to give it tight to the Jambo ensemble.

P.s. If you ever want to wind them up, Blue Bols and Fresh Orange turns green 😂

[Carheenlea]

If the general feeling is that LJ would be sacked in the event of a defeat on Sunday, we could be fighting it out with Aberdeen for similar candidates which would be far from ideal.

[greenlex]

Johnson in. Up a place without kicking a ball. Genius. What an IQ

[Unseen work]

Goodwin in?🤣

[eastmainsmsh]

Goodwin in?🤣

With Jack Ross as DOF lol

[007]

Goodwin in?🤣

Job swap with LJ. 🤔 No pay-offs/compensations reqiured.

[Hibs90]

Gone if we lose today?

[neil7908]

Gone if we lose today?

If we lose badly or show little organisation or fight then yes.

[HH81]

Let's worry about winning and not losing until after.

Big game, let's do it.

[bingo70]

Gone if we lose today?

If we win today it could be the turning point of our season.

[McGruber]

Gone if we lose today?

Yes, 100%. Get it done quickly aswell. New manager and DOF starting together.

If we win today however it could be a turning point and not just a stay of execution.

[WhileTheChief..]

If we win today it could be the turning point of our season.

Win today and a change of manager could be the turning point :greengrin

[Wisdo]

No way we will win today just a question of how many they score

[superfurryhibby]

No way we will win today just a question of how much they score

Poppycock.

[McGruber]

No way we will win today just a question of how much they score

Utter drivel.

[Callum_62]

No way we will win today just a question of how many they scoreCool story bro

Mind 2016 when we turned up to hampden after just being papped out the semis of the playoff to an average Falkirk team

We lined up against a team who cruised the championship and with a budget 10 times ours

Incase you forgot we won the Scottish Cup that day

[emoji106]

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[Allant1981]

No way we will win today just a question of how many they score

Cool

[WeeRussell]

Cool story bro

Mind 2016 when we turned up to hampden after just being papped out the semis of the playoff to an average Falkirk team

We lined up against a team who cruised the championship and with a budget 10 times ours

Incase you forgot we won the Scottish Cup that day

[emoji106]

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He’ll remember fine as we knocked his team out en route in a money-spinning replay.

[worcesterhibby]

I don't think he's going anywhere, nomatter what the result. The fact is, Hearts have a better squad than us,even without the injuries we currently have. If LJ gets this squad to 5th in the league by the end of the season..id say that's about right..hearts, Aberdeen, rangers, celtic ahead of us...if we come 6th or 7th he's underperformed by one or two places...still not a sackable offence. We then need to start ne t season with a better squad, who are actually capable of competing for 3rd and 4th place and see how he does.

[007]

No way we will win today just a question of how many they score

That post was well worth the 9 year wait.

[Donegal Hibby]

Seems that some have already decided we are getting beat before we kick a ball , some even want a new manager even if we win , really defeatist and negative stuff imo :rolleyes:

[Golden Bear]

If we win today it could be the turning point of our season.

A positive outlook - the way to go.

👍

[JimBHibees]

Seems that some have already decided we are getting beat before we kick a ball , some even want a new manager even if we win , really defeatist and negative stuff imo :rolleyes:

Yep need some stability. Review his position at end of the season.

[WhileTheChief..]

Seems that some have already decided we are getting beat before we kick a ball , some even want a new manager even if we win , really defeatist and negative stuff imo :rolleyes:


Just stop it eh. It was a joke. Did you not see the smiley??

****** pain in the ass.

[Hibbyradge]

Just stop it eh. It was a joke. Did you not see the smiley??

****** pain in the ass.

Was he replying to you?

[WhileTheChief..]

Was he replying to you?

Yup. who else?

[Hibbyradge]

Yup. who else?

Loads of folk want rid regardless of today's result. Your post was obviously a joke so I'll be surprised if he referenced you.

[thebausburst]

Key to winning today -

1. Players need to win individual battles (incl. Youhan)
2. Keep a clean sheet
3. Big game required from McGeady and Nissy
4. Team selection, round pegs in round holes please LJ!

[Donegal Hibby]

Just stop it eh. It was a joke. Did you not see the smiley??

****** pain in the ass.
My post wasn't aimed at you btw and sorry if you thought it was , it's just since this morning there's been talk of losing and a new manager from other posters , this is all before we have kicked- off and I find it a very negative attitude to have before a game . As to you calling me a ' ******* pain in the ass ' I'm going to rise above that as I have no intentions of becoming a keyboard warrior or insulting anyone . Apologies again if you picked me up the wrong way :aok:

[h1bs4life]

If we win today it could be the turning point of our season.

Spot on , fingers crossed we get the win and he can carry on until end of the season at least.
Few players need to step up to the mark today

[Since452]

Hope things go for him today.

[Lago]

Yup. who else?
Don't think so, read fully before hitting keyboard.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Surely cannae have that thread title on a family forum! 😃

[snedzuk]

Surely cannae have that thread title on a family forum! 😃

Thought it was another Bojang thread at first.

[hibsbollah]

No way we will win today just a question of how many they score

Poppy money missing

[One Day Soon]

That post was well worth the 9 year wait.

:tee hee:

[One Day Soon]

Yep need some stability. Review his position at end of the season.


Not for me.

Let's see how we do today, if it's not a disaster then another couple of games to look for improvement. If that happens then carry on game to game until the end of season. If he fails either of those tests he's out the door and get the new manager in as early as possible so that he can evaluate the players he's got in real games to prep for the summer window.

[Hibees1973]

If we get beat today and he gets sacked, then so bet it.

For me it wouldn't be based on today. More on his ridiculous decision to start Fish & McKirdy in the New Year derby.

At least he has learned from that with today's team, however it must be stated, he has been significantly hampered by a disastrous transfer policy.

[Just_Jimmy]

I want to win today, that goes without saying. However if we get pumped then I can't see anyway in which he stays.

His recent record is so poor and it'll include 2 Derby defeats.

Even if we do win today, I don't buy into him being the long term answer unfortunately. I don't buy into the narrative that "you can't keep sacking managers". It's lazy. If they're crap, you don't just keep them cos the guy before was also crap.

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[Colr]

I want to win today, that goes without saying. However if we get pumped then I can't see anyway in which he stays.

His recent record is so poor and it'll include 2 Derby defeats.

Even if we do win today, I don't buy into him being the long term answer unfortunately. I don't buy into the narrative that "you can't keep sacking managers". It's lazy. If they're crap, you don't just keep them cos the guy before was also crap.

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Strikes me Hibs problems lie deeper than the manager.

[Just_Jimmy]

Strikes me Hibs problems lie deeper than the manager.I don't disagree but I've seen nothing from him to suggest he would fix things even if given the tools. He's just not cut out for Hibs.

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[Colr]

I don't disagree but I've seen nothing from him to suggest he would fix things even if given the tools. He's just not cut out for Hibs.

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If we swap manager again, it worries me that it just papers over the cracks.

We always seem to be back in the same situation.

Hibs have underperformed for decades now. Its a corprorate culture thing.

Leanne had an impact. We need someone leading across the organisation that can transform the club.

[HH81]

If we swap manager again, it worries me that it just papers over the cracks.

We always seem to be back in the same situation.

Hibs have underperformed for decades now. Its a corprorate culture thing.

Leanne had an impact. We need someone leading across the organisation that can transform the club.

New director of football will also have a say in it.

[Just_Jimmy]

If we swap manager again, it worries me that it just papers over the cracks.

We always seem to be back in the same situation.

Hibs have underperformed for decades now. Its a corprorate culture thing.

Leanne had an impact. We need someone leading across the organisation that can transform the club.Always that chance but I don't think it's a reason to stay with someone who isn't up to it either.

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[Since452]

Do we sack him or back him? Arsenal stuck with Arteta and it's baring fruit. Sometimes you just need to let the manager build something.

[neil7908]

Do we sack him or back him? Arsenal stuck with Arteta and it's baring fruit. Sometimes you just need to let the manager build something.

I haven't seen enough to give me the confidence LJ is the man for us.

Having said that, Arsenal made some very astute moves in the transfer market in the summer to give Arteta a quality squad to work with. Whereas Hibs...

[Hibs90]

Bye Lee.

Take Ben and Ian with you.

[Northernhibee]

**** off Lee and take Ron’s idiot son and that spineless Kensell with you.

[SteveHFC]

**** off Lee and take the vast majority of this squad with you.

Clueless ****.

[Vault Boy]

Bye Brent. Hope the club statement has plenty of gravitas.

[Del Boy]

**** off you useless twat

[neil7908]

I think he'll limp on as Ron knows sacking him is an admission of his terrible decision making.

He should be gone tonight though.

[MWHIBBIES]

You'd struggle to blame him purely for today. Tactically far better than them. Totally outplayed them.

If he actually signed these guys, though, then him and the rest need to go. Plenty running about, little quality.

Ron Gordon fully to blame, though.

[Sir David Gray]

Let the protests commence.

[Hibs90]

Let the protests commence.

All for it.

These clowns are ****ing ruining our club.

[HendoDelivered]

Let the protests commence.

100% back of the west stand at the end of the game.

[The Modfather]

Do we sack him or back him? Arsenal stuck with Arteta and it's baring fruit. Sometimes you just need to let the manager build something.

Are there any other parallels with Johnson and Arteta other than both weren’t sacked when they could have been. Arteta weeded out the likes of Ozil and Aubameyang for the greater good and built a spine around a core of young players. Johnson has moved on some fringe players and even some of his own summer signings, has players like Newell who play every minute regardless of how they play, and plays square pegs in round holes at the expense of giving youth a chance.

[The Captain....]

I think he'll limp on as Ron knows sacking him is an admission of his terrible decision making.

He should be gone tonight though.Agreed..we're a rudderless ship. Nobody making the difficult (or easy depending on your viewpoint) decisions. We'll limp on till the end of the season with minimal changes.

It's a club chock full of bull****ters with no substance to the football side.



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[madhatter]

Genuinely don't think Lee Johnson could've done more.

We've dominated the game but wasted all chances.

[danhibees1875]

Genuinely don't think Lee Johnson could've done more.

We've dominated the game but wasted all chances.

:agree:

The evening after losing to hearts in the cup isn't the time for rational thought on the situation but LJ won't be gone after this, nor should he be.

[SteveHFC]

Genuinely don't think Lee Johnson could've done more.

We've dominated the game but wasted all chances.

You get nothing for dominating a game
End result is another defeat

[18Craig75]

Time for Johnson to go. If Ron can’t see that or, as I think, is to arrogant to admit his mistakes - then he should go with him.

Pathetic.

[HH81]

You get nothing for dominating a game
End result is another defeat

Correct mate.

[Scottie]

Genuinely don't think Lee Johnson could've done more.

We've dominated the game but wasted all chances.
It's the ******g players that need going through like a dose of salts. They are on their way to seeing off manager number 3 in a very short space of time.

[Colr]

Genuinely don't think Lee Johnson could've done more.

We've dominated the game but wasted all chances.

Same old, same old.

Was the same before Johnson

[madhatter]

You get nothing for dominating a game
End result is another defeat

That's true but what could LJ have done differently?

[SteveHFC]

:agree:

The evening after losing to hearts in the cup isn't the time for rational thought on the situation but LJ won't be gone after this, nor should he be.
Hiw many defeats will it take for him to go?

[Northernhibee]

That's true but what could LJ have done differently?
Over one game, fair enough. Over fourteen, quite a lot.

[Gatecrasher]

Johnson is cannon fodder, the anger should be directed at the Gordons.

[neil7908]

:agree:

The evening after losing to hearts in the cup isn't the time for rational thought on the situation but LJ won't be gone after this, nor should he be.

I don't get this. Do we just look at each game on its own? Surely the decision is based on his general performance. I can't believe anyone is happy with how he's done.

I get folk that are saying getting rid of him doesn't solve the problem but I see nothing to suggest that even with the best recruitment team in the world behind him he'd be doing well.

[Dashing Bob S]

He’s in a terrible set up, but he’s still massively underperforming. He has little credibility left with the support and I would think the players and the board too, who are only keeping in post as to sack him now would be an admission of their own incompetence.

Yes, he should go, but we won’t have high expectations of the next appointment, nor should we. The footballing side - ie the part most of us are interested in- has to be completely revamped. Seriously wonder whether, stripping away the tough arrogant businessman rhetoric, whether Gordon has the balls and vision for this.

[HendoDelivered]

Hiw many defeats will it take for him to go?

I want him to go but I want the gordons to go even more. Keep kensell for the commercial side of things only, if not, he can go as well

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

That's true but what could LJ have done differently?

He was brought in to do things differently, but more than halfway through the season and the question is more about him not making us any worse.

[Northernhibee]

Johnson is cannon fodder, the anger should be directed at the Gordons.
100%. Look at what they’ve done to us. They haven’t got a ****ing clue.

[Steve20]

Johnson is not a good manager. He should not be in charge of our football club. But it’s the people above him that are more to blame and until those clowns aren’t running the club, we won’t be any good.

[madhatter]

Over one game, fair enough. Over fourteen, quite a lot.

We've just signed an experience defensive mid which we've been needing and he's only played in 1 game.

[Northernhibee]

We've just signed an experience defensive mid which we've been needing and he's only played in 1 game.
Wowee.

Lewis has played in there many times before. Kenneh was and is decent too.

[SaulGoodman]

That’ll do it for me

[Vault Boy]

Better team loses 0-3, or something like that.

Brentxit please.

[madhatter]

Wowee.

Lewis has played in there many times before. Kenneh was and is decent too.

Sorry but this is why we're rubbish. Kenneh isn't good enough yet and we shouldn't rely on Lewis in midfield.

[Heisenberg]

How the **** can he possibly survive this? A truly abysmal manager.

[Billy McKirdy]

Get this *****ing clown Johnston to ***** 😡😡😡

[JCHibby]

Get this *****ing clown Johnston to ***** 😡😡😡

Got to go…. He is a shambles

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Really really bad. 0-6 in a month v Hearts.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

He's done now surely

[Dashing Bob S]

We’ve lost two derbies on the spin, not scored and conceded five, four of which were due to incredibly suspect defending.

Hearts know you basically just have to show up against this Hibs team with a modicum of organization and motivation, and they’ll essentially do the rest.

And they are far from unique in that belief.

[maguire1875]

No backbone to this club. Need a winning management team.

[danhibees1875]

Hiw many defeats will it take for him to go?

I don't have a quantifiable answer to that I'm afraid.

I just don't think the managerial merry-go-round is the solution to any of it.

[mcfly]

resign Johnson.

Worst manager in years….our board can certs pick them.

Dreadful

[madhatter]

How's the protest?

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Bye bye Lee. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[Haymaker]

Yep. Time to go.

[Heisenberg]

Even a peep from the crowd against the manager?

[jeffers]

Straight down the tunnel at the end like the rat he is.

[Since452]

Would be happy if the Gordon's, Kensell and LJ left to be honest. How we have got to this stage from the position we were in (3rd place and Europe and Hearts in the Championship) is mindboggling. All on Ron Gordon's watch. Shameful to be honest. Mismanagement of the highest order

[McGruber]

Has to go tonight. Bring DOF in now and put Gray in charge until DOF is involved in process of bringing in new manager

[neil7908]

Straight down the tunnel at the end like the rat he is.

If he had any decency he'd resign.

Except now he'll be getting a chunk of our season ticket money as a pay off.

[Swedish hibee]

He has to go. BUT so do many players. Simply not good or brave enough.

[Vault Boy]

I have never in my life seen a manager talk more utter **** than this total fraud. Get him the **** out of our club, alongside the pathetic senior management team that has ground us into the ground.

I can’t stand Hibs at the moment and it’s entirely their fault.

[danhibees1875]

I don't get this. Do we just look at each game on its own? Surely the decision is based on his general performance. I can't believe anyone is happy with how he's done.

I get folk that are saying getting rid of him doesn't solve the problem but I see nothing to suggest that even with the best recruitment team in the world behind him he'd be doing well.

Not looking at each game on its own is kind of my point I guess, that's why decisions after the emotion of a derby aren't going to be taken.

If we'd taken our chances and won that, he'd be the man, redemption arc complete, and we just need to beat Aberdeen and Ross County and that's us 4th, etc etc.

I don't personally think the chopping and changing of managers achieves anything. I don't think we'll pluck anyone out of the pool of managers available to us that will make us any better.

[J-C]

Do we sack him or back him? Arsenal stuck with Arteta and it's baring fruit. Sometimes you just need to let the manager build something.


But at least you could see what Arteta was trying to achieve, he needed time to implement it, I haven't a clue what Johnson is trying to do here at Hibs, we don't keep possession, we're poor in defence, have little creativity and some of his tactics and team selections are baffling to say the least, at least when Maloney was here you could see exactly what he was trying to do, just didn't have the players to do it.

[cjhibee1]

What a stupid decision it was to not try and keep Leeann. Johnson should go, but it's clear that alone is not going to fix us.

[madhatter]

What a stupid decision it was to not try and keep Leeann. Johnson should go, but it's clear that alone is not going to fix us.

Can't criticise the club for Leeann too much. Was she not commuting all the way from the west constantly even though her mum was unwell? Pretty sure Leeann was leaving regardless of anything Hibs did.

[Vault Boy]

What a stupid decision it was to not try and keep Leeann. Johnson should go, but it's clear that alone is not going to fix us.

We’re great at stupid decisions these days.

Leeann had the foresight in her relatively short time working with Ron to know that things were going to get messy. For as much as the personal circumstances quoted as the reason for her exit may have played a part, she was absolutely not going to stay and work for Ron. That’s the truth of it.

And who can blame her. What a sorry state we’re in.

[Carheenlea]

Tolerance of two 3-0 derby defeats in the space of of a couple of weeks is tolerance of failure.

[SHODAN]

I'm done with this loser. Go.

[Hibiza]

Tolerance of two 3-0 derby defeats in the space of of a couple of weeks is tolerance of failure.

:top marks

[GreenCastle]

Sack him ASAP.

It’s not just him but he’s as bad as the players and management above - total neglect going into the derby with 1 new player.

Not sure how bad we have to get for the club to grow a backbone and actually hire individuals who have some guts and mental toughness.

So soft and whole club mentality needs to change. We aren’t progressing.

[neil7908]

Not looking at each game on its own is kind of my point I guess, that's why decisions after the emotion of a derby aren't going to be taken.

If we'd taken our chances and won that, he'd be the man, redemption arc complete, and we just need to beat Aberdeen and Ross County and that's us 4th, etc etc.

I don't personally think the chopping and changing of managers achieves anything. I don't think we'll pluck anyone out of the pool of managers available to us that will make us any better.

Fair enough. I agree to some extent - not even Sir Alex could turn us around. But if some miracle the club starts to turn the corner, LJ is not the guy I want in charge. I make that 3 wins in 14, which incudes x2 0-3 loses to Hearts and 10 goals conceded against Celtic.

[B.H.F.C]

I’d sack him but I don’t think there is anyone on the planet who will get more from that lot.

Johnson has been disastrous since the moment he came in though.

[heid the baw]

The problem is that the people in charge of the club have no clue when it comes to Scottish football. How can trust them to appoint a better manager giving their blinkered approach.
Hearts are coasting in 3rd by using their resources wisely. Simple signing policy, replace players with better ones with a track record, just incremental upgrades. The reward for 3rd is European football, money, something to entice signings and nice wee trips for the fans.
No-one is close to them. Hibs and Aberdeen have similar resources but squander them. Their nearest rivals at present are Livi who haven't got any real funds.
Common denominator in Hibs and Aberdeen, US influenced boards.
Derek Mcinnes a proven manager would at least put a challenge in if he had a decent decent budget
It's not rocket science it's Scottish football

[BegbieHSC]

Get him out. No manager can last getting pumped off Hearts home and away twice in 20 days.

[WhileTheChief..]

I’d sack him but I don’t think there is anyone on the planet who will get more from that lot.

Johnson has been disastrous since the moment he came in though.

I don't even know how we ended up interviewing him.

To somehow have thought he was the answer to the situation we were in following Maloney's time was utter madness. He was never the right man for the job and is causing us more damage every day he's here.

RG is going nowhere it seems. He can at least get rid of LJ and try again.

Literally anyone else would be a better option.

[Hibiza]

Do a " mutual consent " or resign Johnson, hard luck stories are repetitive ( even if true ), take McAllister with you.

[blackpoolhibs]

Sack him and get Lennon in to the end of the season, at least we'd have a laugh while getting relegated.

[Scotty Leither]

I don't even know how we ended up interviewing him.

To somehow have thought he was the answer to the situation we were in following Maloney's time was utter madness. He was never the right man for the job and is causing us more damage every day he's here.

RG is going nowhere it seems. He can at least get rid of LJ and try again.

Literally anyone else would be a better option.

He would’ve been the cheapest option as was Maloney.

The common denominator of the “football department” under this owner and his overly promoted son.

[j'adorehibs]

time to go. not all his fault considering recruitment failures (unless he has been a big part of that )but he cant get a tune out of this bunch unless we play against 10 men

[Bronson]

Get this loser out the club tonight

[bordergreen]

time to go. not all his fault considering recruitment failures (unless he has been a big part of that )but he cant get a tune out of this bunch unless we play against 10 men

He has to go... won't say why in case I get another warning. Spouts a load of rubbish. Can't see how anyone would be inspired by him. Robbie Neilson when interviewed comes across as calm and confident, as do his players. Johnson comes across as someone who doesn't have a clue trying to come up with a soundbite. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to extrapolate how that will translate to the players. We have all had **** managers at work. Ask yourself, how likely are you to succeed in these circumstances at your work. Bye Bye Johnson

[TheCabbage]

Seriously considering missing the Aberdeen game if he’s still in charge
He doesn’t inspire. Doesn’t know his best team or formation
What was even the point of bringing Henderson on with 1 minute to go and 3-0 down

[Hibs90]

Sack him and get Lennon in to the end of the season, at least we'd have a laugh while getting relegated.

Would probably take that at this stage tbh.

[mcfly]

He has lost the fans
He has been hammered twice this month by hearts
He has not sorted the defence and the consistent mistakes being made
He cannot survive this and has to go.

Crowds will
Plummet now. We can argue all we like on here but real change only happens when fans hold back their money

[mcfly]

I’d sack him but I don’t think there is anyone on the planet who will get more from that lot.

Johnson has been disastrous since the moment he came in though.

Nonsense we have a crop of young players that surely deserve a chance?

We need some leaders on the pitch and also some quality.

I think we deserve at least that as fans.

[thebausburst]

Has not improved ANY area of the team in 9 months!! Can’t win a big game to save himself, team selections often bizzare, constantly lose opening goal in games .

[jakeshibs]

He has lost the fans
He has been hammered twice this month by hearts
He has not sorted the defence and the consistent mistakes being made
He cannot survive this and has to go.

Crowds will
Plummet now. We can argue all we like on here but real change only happens when fans hold back their money

I cant not go, I am a Hibs supporter its in my blood, am a fighter, born a Hibby and will die a Hibby and will support my club no matter..

[blackpoolhibs]

He has to go, he does not get us to the stage where we play any big games, nevermind win them.:faf:

[madhatter]

How'd the protest go?

[mcfly]

I cant not go, I am a Hibs supporter its in my blood, am a fighter, born a Hibby and will die a Hibby and will support my club no matter..

It’s just a shame your passion for the club isn’t on the pitch, boardroom or dugout.

[wookie70]

For me it is mostly down to what the cost is to part ways. If it will cost an absolute fortune then I would be inclined to spend that on a player. Today we were the better team in most areas of the park. Being clinical in good positions was really the only difference. I think every player probably gave as much as they had. In some ways we are showing levels of confidence that you wouldn't expect at a team struggling as badly as we are. There were 4 or 5 times today players got caught thinking they had time and rolling their foot over the ball like they were totally in control. One of our biggest issues is delivery into the box. It takes too long to come and it is usually poor. McGeady and Youan had a thousand step overs etc today but their final product was terrible for the most part. We looked a team in terms of effort and desire but our shape is all over the place, we have two players getting in each others way every 5 minutes and it is pretty clear we play as a group of individuals. Some of that is down to our injuries but LJ has to take a fair chunk of the blame.

When Leeann was here I always thought everything was part of a greater plan and fitted into a long term vision. Lennon changed that and we have looked like a club looking for success rather than planning for it since. We might stumble over a winning formula if we keep changing managers twice a season but I suspect, long term, it will only end badly. Let's a DoF in and draw up a plan we can buy into and something decisions are based around. If a DoF is imminent then let them decide if LJ is the man. We are going nowhere just changing managers, our issues run far deeper than that and with the squad we have it is going to take time and money to turn it round. We are basically where Hearts were a few years ago throwing darts at the transfer dartboard while blindfolded.

[Stuart93]

How’s he not been sacked yet!?

[Heisenberg]

How’s he not been sacked yet!?

He’s not going to be imo. We have chosen to stick and will sign his players.

[Clarence]

I think getting rid of Johnson is only treating a symptom of the problem. We need change at board level so that we don’t continue this downward spiral due to poor decision making and taking too long to deal with problems. I think Gordon wants success and will realise that he has made mistakes but sometimes you need to admit that you are part of the problem and give up an element of control to someone with better tools for the job. Rod knew this when he got Leann in. Admittedly, she wasn’t great on the commercial side but we badly need someone like her at the moment to set standards and to speak up when there are daft ideas like - let’s sign a load of inexperienced foreign players and expect them to slot right into the first team. I’ve never been a fan of Johnson, I think he’s full of bs and is too thick to realise that he’s not got a clue what’s going on but we should not hire another manager until there are execs at the club who are capable of making an informed decision around who his replacement should be.

[Greenwich_Hibby]

That Hearts side were poor today, yet we didn't take advantage. Johnston remains a slaver, and our club under Gordon is in freefall.

[SickBoy32]

I don't even know how we ended up interviewing him.

To somehow have thought he was the answer to the situation we were in following Maloney's time was utter madness. He was never the right man for the job and is causing us more damage every day he's here.

RG is going nowhere it seems. He can at least get rid of LJ and try again.

Literally anyone else would be a better option.

He mirrors the CEO in terms of energy and personality

A (another) terrible appointment

We can’t let these clowns fanny about and kid on to appoint a competent DoF

[BegbieHSC]

The club can’t **** about. Johnson needs to be sacked, or resign tonight, just to give us a chance before the window closes.

Can’t believe I’m saying it, but Lennon in.

[KWJ]

That Hearts side were poor today, yet we didn't take advantage. Johnston remains a slaver, and our club under Gordon is in freefall.

Or, we outplayed a good Hearts team and just couldn't score.

Play like that for the rest of the season and we should finish 4th.

Biggest signing is the right DoF.

[blackpoolhibs]

Or, we outplayed a good Hearts team and just couldn't score.

Play like that for the rest of the season and we should finish 4th.

Biggest signing is the right DoF.
:faf::faf::faf::not worth:not worth

[KWJ]

The club can’t **** about. Johnson needs to be sacked, or resign tonight, just to give us a chance before the window closes.

Can’t believe I’m saying it, but Lennon in.

Lennon who was sacked when we were about 9th in the league playing utter dross :aok:

[Hibs90]

Or, we outplayed a good Hearts team and just couldn't score.

Play like that for the rest of the season and we should finish 4th.

Biggest signing is the right DoF.

:faf:

He away yet?

[Waxy]

This place is awash with jambos.
You still lost to Brora and we have won the Scottish and league cups more recently than you.

[heid the baw]

I cant not go, I am a Hibs supporter its in my blood, am a fighter, born a Hibby and will die a Hibby and will support my club no matter..

I genuinely admire your passion. I too am a Hibs supporter but I find it hard to spend my time and money following this team.
Year by year they slip down my priority list, being replaced by other commitments and more rewarding activities.
I knew we would lose today before a ball was kicked. I wasn't wrong. Every Jambo heading to that stadium today knew they would not lose that game.
This team with its current manager and players does not have an iota of your passion or fight

[BSEJVT]

Or, we outplayed a good Hearts team and just couldn't score.

Play like that for the rest of the season and we should finish 4th.

Biggest signing is the right DoF.

What could possibly make you think we will play like that for the rest of the season when we have been terrible to date?

Did the tooth fairy tell you that we would?

That’s fantasy island type clutching at straws

[Paulie Walnuts]

Or, we outplayed a good Hearts team and just couldn't score.

Play like that for the rest of the season and we should finish 4th.

Biggest signing is the right DoF.

Outstanding.

[B.H.F.C]

In more normal times with a competently run club, I don’t see how he can survive.

I think he will though. Still expect him to be there next week. I think we’ll just keep stumbling on.

[KWJ]

Like to hear how I'm so far off. Don't think yer laughing at it being the If we play like that[B] which is maybe a stretch. We're 4 points of 4th.

We hit the post twice today and dominated the stats and game from my eyes.
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[B.H.F.C]

Or, we outplayed a good Hearts team and just couldn't score.

Play like that for the rest of the season and we should finish 4th.

Biggest signing is the right DoF.

We’re hopeless in both boxes. We need a minimum of two goals to even get a point most weeks. We will continue to be pish as long as that continues.

[blackpoolhibs]

Like to hear how I'm so far off. Don't think yer laughing at it being the [B]If we play like that which is maybe a stretch. We're 4 points of 4th.

We hit the post twice today and dominated the stats and game from my eyes.
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Loser mentality, we are only 11 points from 3rd.

[He's here!]

That Hearts side were poor today, yet we didn't take advantage. Johnston remains a slaver, and our club under Gordon is in freefall.

Didn't see the game. Better things to do. Checked the score afterwards and just thought 'yep, no surprise'.

We did, though (according to the BBC report I read) play well which is alarming if, as you say, Hears were poor and we still ended up losing 3-0.

Shows how big the gap is becoming between the sides.

[KWJ]

What could possibly make you think we will play like that for the rest of the season when we have been terrible to date?

Did the tooth fairy tell you that we would?

That’s fantasy island type clutching at straws

:confused:

Because we just did. I did say that's the challenge but i wouldnt sack a manager after a decent performance and unfortunate result, even against them. Mucb like we let Maloney go but we were far worse under him.

And, we're only 4 points off 4th and Europe.

[BegbieHSC]

Lennon who was sacked when we were about 9th in the league playing utter dross :aok:

No one can doubt we weren’t in the best place when he left, but…I’d give anything to have the club back that we had then, compared to now.

Out of all available managers out there, I can’t think of anyone else who might give us a bit of hope/swagger like Lennon potentially could.

He’s there, he available, and he’s 10 times the manager Johnson he is, and I’d much sooner trust him to bring some dignity back to our club than Johnson.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Like to hear how I'm so far off. Don't think yer laughing at it being the If we play like that[B] which is maybe a stretch. We're 4 points of 4th.

We hit the post twice today and dominated the stats and game from my eyes.
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Bit like the last time we played them when people claimed we battered them 2nd half etc? How are these performances actually working out for us?

[Since452]

Or, we outplayed a good Hearts team and just couldn't score.

Play like that for the rest of the season and we should finish 4th.

Biggest signing is the right DoF.

Did we though? Or did they know fine and well we'd huff and puff and squander countless chances and all they needed to do was take one of theirs and they'd win the game? We are the easiest team in the league to play against.

[Mikey_1875]

I can’t see many clubs letting a manager survive two 3-0 derby defeats in quick succession. He can’t just keep hanging by a thread and picking up a result here and there. Look at the Utd game where its boos, to cheers, to boos again in the space of one half. That’s not healthy for any club.

If he doesn’t get emptied now, then when?

[One Day Soon]

Like to hear how I'm so far off. Don't think yer laughing at it being the [B]If we play like that which is maybe a stretch. We're 4 points of 4th.

We hit the post twice today and dominated the stats and game from my eyes.
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When is the draw for the next round of the statistics cup? Hope we get another home game.

[KWJ]

No one can doubt we weren’t in the best place when he left, but…I’d give anything to have the club back that we had then, compared to now.

Out of all available managers out there, I can’t think of anyone else who might give us a bit of hope/swagger like Lennon potentially could.

He’s there, he available, and he’s 10 times the manager Johnson he is, and I’d much sooner trust him to bring some dignity back to our club than Johnson.

And folk are laughing at me.

He's been sacked twice since he left us too mind.

[jakeshibs]

I think getting rid of Johnson is only treating a symptom of the problem. We need change at board level so that we don’t continue this downward spiral due to poor decision making and taking too long to deal with problems. I think Gordon wants success and will realise that he has made mistakes but sometimes you need to admit that you are part of the problem and give up an element of control to someone with better tools for the job. Rod knew this when he got Leann in. Admittedly, she wasn’t great on the commercial side but we badly need someone like her at the moment to set standards and to speak up when there are daft ideas like - let’s sign a load of inexperienced foreign players and expect them to slot right into the first team. I’ve never been a fan of Johnson, I think he’s full of bs and is too thick to realise that he’s not got a clue what’s going on but we should not hire another manager until there are execs at the club who are capable of making an informed decision around who his replacement should be.


I support this post as until we have the structure right it makes no sense as we will go form manager to manager .
Not a fan of Johnson now as he talks the talk but fails to deliver every-time. he loves himself and believes he is the man but we are not improving and still have no identity.

[Paulie Walnuts]

And folk are laughing at me.

He's been sacked twice since he left us too mind.

To be fair, his managerial career is lightyears ahead of LJ.

He’s not the answer though imo.

[Carheenlea]

Loser mentality, we are only 11 points from 3rd.

Which is where we were when we sacked Jack Ross.

Two appointments down the line and we are no better off and now out of both Cups at first time of asking and suffering the humiliation of two back to back 3-0 derby losses within a couple of weeks.

Problem is though, would you honestly trust them to make another appointment right now? For that reason I'm inclined to stick for the time being until there is someone put in place within the football department to oversee the next managerial change.

[Willis1875]

Has he been out and delivered his weekly slaver yet

[loanheadhibby]

Or, we outplayed a good Hearts team and just couldn't score.

Play like that for the rest of the season and we should finish 4th.

Biggest signing is the right DoF.

Do you honestly believe that?

Or did Hearts play as well as they needed. Never out of 2nd gear.

A 6 0 aggregate over 2 games.

Johnson out now.

[jakeshibs]

I genuinely admire your passion. I too am a Hibs supporter but I find it hard to spend my time and money following this team.
Year by year they slip down my priority list, being replaced by other commitments and more rewarding activities.
I knew we would lose today before a ball was kicked. I wasn't wrong. Every Jambo heading to that stadium today knew they would not lose that game.
This team with its current manager and players does not have an iota of your passion or fight


i understand your comment but i just cant not love my club.
its more than the owner the players, its more than religion..

[BSEJVT]

:confused:

Because we just did. I did say that's the challenge but i wouldnt sack a manager after a decent performance and unfortunate result, even against them. Mucb like we let Maloney go but we were far worse under him.

And, we're only 4 points off 4th and Europe.

So after at a guess 20 games we have played okay in one and you think that’s a challenge the twat of a manager we have can rise up to?

How would you explain the other 19 games?

He won’t even be able to pick the same team again

It’s totally delusional of you I am afraid

It’s not a challenge it’s a guaranteed fail

[truehibernian]

There was no lack of endeavour today, just lack of leadership on and off the pitch, with some players not knowing quite what their role was and where they were meant to be. Too many ifs, buts and maybes regarding the chances.

Lewis was asked to do way too much, first being central, then left, then staying back at set pieces. Josh ran all day but never got himself into the right areas when Youan and McGeady were getting into great positions in the box driving in from the flanks. Nisbet man marked and having to drop deeper and deeper. Porteous wanting an age on the ball and trying too many raking passes, and Cabraja absolutely miles - and I mean miles off it and zero confidence.

Thought McGeady and Youan were really good today in what is a very very poor side creatively in the central area. Like I say, I’ve seen worse Hibs performances, the team tried hard, but the sheer lack of quality especially in midfield - yet again - makes us a dream to play against on the counter attack.

Hearts were clinical, and that’s what we don’t have in this side. Leaders, creators, and worryingly, organisation.

[ehf]

Surely the slavering fraud doesn't survive that?

[blackpoolhibs]

There was no lack of endeavour today, just lack of leadership on and off the pitch, with some players not knowing quite what their role was and where they were meant to be. Too many ifs, buts and maybes regarding the chances.

Lewis was asked to do way too much, first being central, then left, then staying back at set pieces. Josh ran all day but never got himself into the right areas when Youan and McGeady were getting into great positions in the box driving in from the flanks. Nisbet man marked and having to drop deeper and deeper. Porteous wanting an age on the ball and trying too many raking passes, and Cabraja absolutely miles - and I mean miles off it and zero confidence.

Thought McGeady and Youan were really good today in what is a very very poor side creatively in the central area. Like I say, I’ve seen worse Hibs performances, the team tried hard, but the sheer lack of quality especially in midfield - yet again - makes us a dream to play against on the counter attack.

Hearts were clinical, and that’s what we don’t have in this side. Leaders, creators, and worryingly, organisation.

You thought Youan was good today? I'd class him as the original headless chicken, with the heart of Henderson.

[Joe6-2]

Surely the slavering fraud doesn't survive that?

Has he done a post match interview yet?

[Hibees1973]

Kensall announced last week that mistakes have been made and a whole restructure of the club is taking place.

I don't think the Gordon's and Kensall can possibly sack Johnson at the moment.

If they did it would stink of hypocrisy.

[jeffers]

You thought Youan was good today? I'd class him as the original headless chicken, with the heart of Henderson.

:agree: but I’m sure he’ll have some lovely stepovers to put on his latest “highlights” reel on Instagram.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Bit like the last time we played them when people claimed we battered them 2nd half etc? How are these performances actually working out for us?

We'll maybe get it down to a one or two goal defeat next time and some folks can claim a moral victory/progress etc 👍🏻

[truehibernian]

You thought Youan was good today? I'd class him as the original headless chicken, with the heart of Henderson.

I thought him and McGeady got into the box and tried all day to create - combination of final ball, wrong players on the end of them, and really good Hearts defending meant chances were limited. Yes, I thought he was one of our better players - what I will say he has no pace, again he was put through first half and either didn’t have the confidence or he needs speed work introduced to his training. I thought him, McGeady and Rocky were really good today.

[Ozyhibby]

You thought Youan was good today? I'd class him as the original headless chicken, with the heart of Henderson.

I actually thought he was doing well today as well.[emoji2369]


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[WhileTheChief..]

The club can’t **** about. Johnson needs to be sacked, or resign tonight, just to give us a chance before the window closes.

Can’t believe I’m saying it, but Lennon in.

More and more of you coming round to the idea…..:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[LunasBoots]

Bye Johnson

[ekhibee]

There was no lack of endeavour today, just lack of leadership on and off the pitch, with some players not knowing quite what their role was and where they were meant to be. Too many ifs, buts and maybes regarding the chances.

Lewis was asked to do way too much, first being central, then left, then staying back at set pieces. Josh ran all day but never got himself into the right areas when Youan and McGeady were getting into great positions in the box driving in from the flanks. Nisbet man marked and having to drop deeper and deeper. Porteous wanting an age on the ball and trying too many raking passes, and Cabraja absolutely miles - and I mean miles off it and zero confidence.

Thought McGeady and Youan were really good today in what is a very very poor side creatively in the central area. Like I say, I’ve seen worse Hibs performances, the team tried hard, but the sheer lack of quality especially in midfield - yet again - makes us a dream to play against on the counter attack.

Hearts were clinical, and that’s what we don’t have in this side. Leaders, creators, and worryingly, organisation.

I agree with a lot of what you said, but not about Stevenson who I thought was pretty poor. I thought Porteous was lazy, Rocky was fine and IMO is turning into a real good, solid centre half, and yes, I thought Youan had one of his better games along with McGeady who at times is great to watch. But you nailed it about the team trying hard but the lack of quality, particularly in midfield. The thing is, on what I've seen, Hearts really aren't all that great, our lack of quality makes them look a whole lot better than they actually are IMO.

[MrSmith]

100% Lennon in! Sick of the pissy garbage laid out week on week!

[Amazinsauzee]

100% Lennon in! Sick of the pissy garbage laid out week on week!

Lennon can GTF

[Since452]

100% Lennon in! Sick of the pissy garbage laid out week on week!

This garbage is better than the garbage under Lennon.

[chrisski33]

Or, we outplayed a good Hearts team and just couldn't score.

Play like that for the rest of the season and we should finish 4th.

Biggest signing is the right DoF.

We won't though.

[KWJ]

So after at a guess 20 games we have played okay in one and you think that’s a challenge the twat of a manager we have can rise up to?

How would you explain the other 19 games?

He won’t even be able to pick the same team again

It’s totally delusional of you I am afraid

It’s not a challenge it’s a guaranteed fail

Exactly, 20 games. I don't think that's enough to sack a manager when he has us midtable. I think we've been a mixture of unlucky (mostly with injuries) and naive so far this season.

It's now a worry that we'll have to go with Hanlon and Fish at CB for a while unless we bring in someone else. Hopefully we'll do just that and bring in a first choice centre back.

[silverhibee]

Like to hear how I'm so far off. Don't think yer laughing at it being the If we play like that[B] which is maybe a stretch. We're 4 points of 4th.

We hit the post twice today and dominated the stats and game from my eyes.
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We also lost 3 goals and got knocked out the cup.

Slaver out.

[cabbageandribs1875]

H- Aberdeen
A- Ross co


full points or empty him :greengrin

[truehibernian]

I agree with a lot of what you said, but not about Stevenson who I thought was pretty poor. I thought Porteous was lazy, Rocky was fine and IMO is turning into a real good, solid centre half, and yes, I thought Youan had one of his better games along with McGeady who at times is great to watch. But you nailed it about the team trying hard but the lack of quality, particularly in midfield. The thing is, on what I've seen, Hearts really aren't all that great, our lack of quality makes them look a whole lot better than they actually are IMO.

I thought Lewis was poor too, my point was he was either trying doing to much (as is his inner desire) and he was lost as to where he should be at times. The central area had no balance or organisation- and, crucially, no creative spark. Lots of industry, just no finesse.

Lewis actually got on the end of two crosses into their box and showed exactly why he’s a defender and not a finisher. We need players who are clinical midfield goal scorers, as well as much better final delivery.

The score line is a sickener but I honestly don’t think we played badly today.

[bingo70]

H- Aberdeen
A- Ross co


full points or empty him :greengrin

We’ve been saying similar tk that for a while.

At some point we do actually have to empty him.

[SteveHFC]

We’ve been saying similar tk that for a while.

At some point we do actually have to empty him.

Should have been done at world Cup break, now further down the road with next to nothing to play for

[Mainstandman]

Like to hear how I'm so far off. Don't think yer laughing at it being the If we play like that[B] which is maybe a stretch. We're 4 points of 4th.

We hit the post twice today and dominated the stats and game from my eyes.
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So are we through to the next round of the dominating stats cup? We’ve played 21 times since last January against the other teams currently in the top six. We’ve won two of those, that means we could finish sixth maybe. That form gives no prospect of looking up the table.

[bingo70]

Should have been done at world Cup break, now further down the road with next to nothing to play for

Staying up to play for.

[KWJ]

Do you honestly believe that?

Or did Hearts play as well as they needed. Never out of 2nd gear.

A 6 0 aggregate over 2 games.

Johnson out now.

In both games they got fortunate goals at key times. Those goals aren't falling for us at the moment. Neither game was a 3 0 when you watch the highlights.

Unfortunately that's what they are good at just now.

I do agree that we've got to be better against the other teams and start making our own luck. Starting with Aberdeen.

Also, don't understand folk saying Youan was poor today. Had Cochrane on ice who had to be subbed and was unlucky with shot hitting post.

[blackpoolhibs]

He wanted judged after 15-20 games if i remember right, GTF, thats my judgement.

[SteveHFC]

Staying up to play for.
I was going to post that but I'm hopeful as bad as we are other teams are worse but I said similar before hamilton beat us.

[KWJ]

So are we through to the next round of the dominating stats cup? We’ve played 21 times since last January against the other teams currently in the top six. We’ve won two of those, that means we could finish sixth maybe. That form gives no prospect of looking up the table.


So you're including Maloneys form in why Johnson should be sacked?

Outwith top 3 anyone can beat anyone which shows how, despite having been pish we are only 4 points away from 4th. Can we - yes. Will we - let's see. I don't think it becomes any more likely by sacking LJ unless we bring in someome hugely unexpected.

[Scottie]

He wanted judged after 15-20 games if i remember right, GTF, thats my judgement.
:agree: but he needs to take the recruitment team and 99.9% of the players with him. I see nothing changing if we stick with him.

[James Stephen]

In both games they got fortunate goals at key times. Those goals aren't falling for us at the moment. Neither game was a 3 0 when you watch the highlights.

Unfortunately that's what they are good at just now.

I do agree that we've got to be better against the other teams and start making our own luck. Starting with Aberdeen.

Also, don't understand folk saying Youan was poor today. Had Cochrane on ice who had to be subbed and was unlucky with shot hitting post.

Dunno what highlights youre watching, but both games, literally were 0-3 defeats.

Hibs are a weak club - until such times as the whole club - and that includes the fans - start cherishing players and teams who do the basics of professional football in Scotland well, and are not constantly seduced by bull**** snake oil about hibs style, and attacking fitba, then Hibs will continue to be weak.

Keep doing what youve always done, you keep getting what you always get.

Everyone knew Hearts would win, they turned up, and did exactly that with a minimum of fuss.

Hibs - club and support - are addicted to the fuss, to the circus, as was demonstrated by support collectively chasing Ross out of the club for being 'boring'. Funnily enough, Hibs haven't come close to beating Hearts since.

Go figure.

[Ozyhibby]

So you're including Maloneys form in why Johnson should be sacked?

Outwith top 3 anyone can beat anyone which shows how, despite having been pish we are only 4 points away from 4th. Can we - yes. Will we - let's see. I don't think it becomes any more likely by sacking LJ unless we bring in someome hugely unexpected.

Maloney’s form actually improves Johnson’s stats.[emoji23]


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[Ozyhibby]

Dunno what highlights youre watching, but both games, literally were 0-3 defeats.

Hibs are a weak club - until such times as the whole club - and that includes the fans - start cherishing players and teams who do the basics of professional football in Scotland well, and are not constantly seduced by bull**** snake oil about hibs style, and attacking fitba, then Hibs will continue to be weak.

Keep doing what youve always done, you keep getting what you always get.

Everyone knew Hearts would win, they turned up, and did exactly that with a minimum of fuss.

Hibs - club and support - are addicted to the fuss, to the circus, as was demonstrated by support collectively chasing Ross out of the club for being 'boring'. Funnily enough, Hibs haven't come close to beating Hearts since.

Go figure.

Agree with all that. I’d eat some humble pie and get Ross back in. Give me boring successful everyday of the week over this.


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[GreenCastle]

Dunno what highlights youre watching, but both games, literally were 0-3 defeats.

Hibs are a weak club - until such times as the whole club - and that includes the fans - start cherishing players and teams who do the basics of professional football in Scotland well, and are not constantly seduced by bull**** snake oil about hibs style, and attacking fitba, then Hibs will continue to be weak.

Keep doing what youve always done, you keep getting what you always get.

Everyone knew Hearts would win, they turned up, and did exactly that with a minimum of fuss.

Hibs - club and support - are addicted to the fuss, to the circus, as was demonstrated by support collectively chasing Ross out of the club for being 'boring'. Funnily enough, Hibs haven't come close to beating Hearts since.

Go figure.

Been said thousands of time - Hearts expect to win derbies - Hibs hope to win them.

Until this mentality changes we will continue to be loose more than we win or even draw.

We are far too soft as a club and full of all this flair pish.

Just win football games against teams you are meant to win and that includes derbies.

[Spike Mandela]

We sacked a manager who had a third place finish, two cup semi finals and rwo cup finals in his tenure. Most reasonable people now accept that was a mistake.

Now the club has learned it’s lesson and is likely to give time to a manager who has us a bottom 6 club and out both cups at the earliest opportunity. Progress huh?:greengrin

[loanheadhibby]

We sacked a manager who had a third place finish, two cup semi finals and rwo cup finals in his tenure. Most reasonable people now accept that was a mistake.

Now the club has learned it’s lesson and is like ly to give time to a manager who has us a bottom 6 club and out both cups at the earliest opportunity. Progress huh?:greengrin

To be fair, Jack Ross needed sacked when he was. The issue is the fact we’ve replaced him with the 2 worst managers in our history.

We’ve had the owners laddie signing absolute dumplings. Ron & Ian care not one jot about Hibs. That’s exactly why the clubs he tried to buy before us told him to bolt.

[Ozyhibby]

We sacked a manager who had a third place finish, two cup semi finals and rwo cup finals in his tenure. Most reasonable people now accept that was a mistake.

Now the club has learned it’s lesson and is like ly to give time to a manager who has us a bottom 6 club and out both cups at the earliest opportunity. Progress huh?:greengrin

Sacking Ross looked a terrible mistake at the time. He’s available now though so we can fix that now if we want.


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[Ozyhibby]

To be fair, Jack Ross needed sacked when he was. The issue is the fact we’ve replaced him with the 2 worst managers in our history.

We’ve had the owners laddie signing absolute dumplings. Ron & Ian care not one jot about Hibs. That’s exactly why the clubs he tried to buy before us told him to bolt.

Why did he need sacked?


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[Stuart93]

Why’s this joker still not been sacked yet

[bingo70]

Why did he need sacked?


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Because people were going to watch his team. Even when winning season ticket holders weren’t turning up.

When you add to that the terrible run of form we were on we had to do something.

His replacements since then were wrong but the decision to sack him was the right one.

[Trinity Hibee]

If he was to go, do we appoint a short term coach or just have David gray in again until a DoF is found?

[Jones28]

If he was to go, do we appoint a short term coach or just have David gray in again until a DoF is found?

Gray should be nowhere near it. Keane should get it on a temporary basis.

[Colr]

:agree: but he needs to take the recruitment team and 99.9% of the players with him. I see nothing changing if we stick with him.

So mid-season you want to restructure the entire club? Smart!

[Jones28]

So mid-season you want to restructure the entire club? Smart!

Canny be any worse than things at the moment can they?

[JCHibby]

Gray should be nowhere near it. Keane should get it on a temporary basis.

Keane is an absolute bombscare

[Stuart93]

Keane is an absolute bombscare

Aye, our current manager is a lot more stable…

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Because people were going to watch his team. Even when winning season ticket holders weren’t turning up.

When you add to that the terrible run of form we were on we had to do something.

His replacements since then were wrong but the decision to sack him was the right one.

I was glad to see him replaced - and at the time thought it was a signal of an ambitious owner demanding more, I admit now I was wrong. It was but the first major act of an absolutely clueless owner. And with such an individual and family running the show, the chances of getting subsequent appointments right was non existent.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

So mid-season you want to restructure the entire club? Smart!

Dig deeper?

[hibee-boys]

He deserves a summer window, if there’s no improvement this time next year fair enough.

[Colr]

Best wait and see what the Director of Football and the other changes yield.

Give it to the end of the season.

[LaMotta]

I was glad to see him replaced - and at the time thought it was a signal of an ambitious owner demanding more, I admit now I was wrong. It was but the first major act of an absolutely clueless owner. And with such an individual and family running the show, the chances of getting subsequent appointments right was non existent.

Sacking a manager 2 weeks before he was about to lead us out in a major cup final will rank as one the craziest board decisions Ive seen at Easter Road. An act of madness compounded by the appointment of a rookie manager with zero experience and poor communication skills.

[Exuberance1875]

We are in absolute desperate need of some stability, however I’m unsure if LJ will survive this. BK has some serious questions to answer.

On one hand we aren’t playing terribly and had some good spells today against an established hearts side, albeit the result is the main thing to focus on. LJ did have the players working well and I thought Jeggo looked decent for a tricky debut.

On the other hand, we are out the Scottish Cup at the first opportunity, out the league cup in the groups. Signed loads of players of varying ages and almost all have been deemed not good enough and some been offloaded already (IMO players need stability and a chance to prove themselves).

I am unsure if LJ has improved any of the current playing staff which is of course a concern and he seems almost adamant on not playing any of the younger players in our development squad, who by all accounts are highly rated.

I don’t think it’s the right time to get rid of another manager but I don’t think it’s wrong for us to expect a lot more from all involved in the coming fixtures.

[Jones28]

Keane is an absolute bombscare

Really? Well he should be nowhere near the club in that case no?

Steve Keane - not Roy Keane.

[James Stephen]

Because people were going to watch his team. Even when winning season ticket holders weren’t turning up.

When you add to that the terrible run of form we were on we had to do something.

His replacements since then were wrong but the decision to sack him was the right one.

And thats why the fans have to take their share of the blame.

Hibs fans - or a big chunk of them - arent happy with a winning team, that does basics well.

They want the impossible, the scottish fitba equivalent of haley's comet, a generational team that can play amazing and win. And anything short of that isnt good enough.

Guess what though, if you only deem the odd, generational talent team as success, you will only have success at generational gaps.

[loanheadhibby]

Why did he need sacked?


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We were 2 wins in 9. We were playing awful football and had no discipline in the team.

look at what Ross did at Dundee Utd. He’s not the man we need.

[Stuart93]

And thats why the fans have to take their share of the blame.

Hibs fans - or a big chunk of them - arent happy with a winning team, that does basics well.

They want the impossible, the scottish fitba equivalent of haley's comet, a generational team that can play amazing and win. And anything short of that isnt good enough.

Guess what though, if you only deem the odd, generational talent team as success, you will only have success at generational gaps.

Ah yes. It’s the fans’ fault. Of course

[James Stephen]

Ah yes. It’s the fans’ fault. Of course

Partly, yes.

The fans set the parameters for what success is. The fans set the club culture.

Not solely the fans fault, of course not.

But to say the fans have no responsibility for Hibs having a weak culture that has spanned generations, owners, managers and players (with the odd exception) is crazy.

[Stuart93]

Partly, yes.

The fans set the parameters for what success is. The fans set the club culture.

Not solely the fans fault, of course not.

But to say the fans have no responsibility for Hibs having a weak culture that has spanned generations, owners, managers and players (with the odd exception) is crazy.

The fans want a side that plays attractive football and challenging for Europe more often than not. With our budget in comparison to other teams in the league it really isn’t that fanatical.

It’s the club that continues to let the fans down. It’s utterly bizarre that anyone would even partly attempt to blame the fans for this

[James Stephen]

The fans want a side that plays attractive football and challenging for Europe more often than not. With our budget in comparison to other teams in the league it really isn’t that fanatical.

It’s the club that continues to let the fans down. It’s utterly bizarre that anyone would even partly attempt to blame the fans for this

Yet history shows it is almost impossible to achieve in Scotland.

[bingo70]

And thats why the fans have to take their share of the blame.

Hibs fans - or a big chunk of them - arent happy with a winning team, that does basics well.

They want the impossible, the scottish fitba equivalent of haley's comet, a generational team that can play amazing and win. And anything short of that isnt good enough.

Guess what though, if you only deem the odd, generational talent team as success, you will only have success at generational gaps.

We weren’t a team that was winning or did the basics well for a long time before JR was sacked.