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bingo70
13-08-2023, 03:39 PM
Picking Hanlon and Stevenson will get him sacked like everyone else. They'd be the first two shown the door personally.

Why do the two of them go together?

Hanlon been good today, Stevenson got mugged for their goal.

Rumble de Thump
13-08-2023, 03:39 PM
I’m sure he’ll get over it.

It's so cringeworthy.

Vault Boy
13-08-2023, 03:40 PM
It's so cringeworthy.

Yeah he is, that’s why folk call him Brent.

Not In The Know
13-08-2023, 03:41 PM
He’s just nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is. Genuinely no idea what his tactics are. Apart from get it wide and whip it in.

No cohesion to even see how they plan on doing that.

I’d swap him for Kettlewell. Out foxed him today.

Thursday proved we have good players and he’s not getting the best out them regularly enough.

Paulie Walnuts
13-08-2023, 03:42 PM
Obviously he is going to get Thursday and next Sunday unfortunately.

If we blow a 2 goal lead on Thursday he should be gone.

I don’t think we will though.

Since452
13-08-2023, 03:42 PM
Why do the two of them go together?

Hanlon been good today, Stevenson got mugged for their goal.

Hanlon has captained the team to two league defeats in a row. He needs to take some responsibility. It'll be another manager they have both seen off.

blackpoolhibs
13-08-2023, 03:44 PM
Get him tae ****

thebausburst
13-08-2023, 03:45 PM
Seen enough, time to go LEE

mcfly
13-08-2023, 03:45 PM
Joint bottom of league.

Pressure is well and truly on

Sick of his excuses

GreenGray
13-08-2023, 03:45 PM
At a bit of a loss at how we can go from Thursday’s performance to todays, yes it’s a different team but we could still play at least close to the same way.

He’s actually setting us up to play hoofball in this league.


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Northernhibee
13-08-2023, 03:45 PM
A complete embarrassment that the club want £26-28 quid a ticket to watch this.

We've spent a huge amount on players. We look relegation material.

Get him straight to ****.

dp00
13-08-2023, 03:45 PM
Hanlon has captained the team to two league defeats in a row. He needs to take some responsibility. It'll be another manager they have both seen off.

Hanlon was ***** when he was captain before too


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Kentao1985
13-08-2023, 03:46 PM
He’s just nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is. Genuinely no idea what his tactics are. Apart from get it wide and whip it in.

No cohesion to even see how they plan on doing that.

I’d swap him for Kettlewell. Out foxed him today.

Thursday proved we have good players and he’s not getting the best out them regularly enough.Could really swap him for any manager in the league over the past 2 seasons he rarely gets the better of the opposition manager

Long ball pub team appears to be the tactics this season in the league. Quicker we get shot of him the better.

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Since452
13-08-2023, 03:46 PM
If we blow a 2 goal lead on Thursday he should be gone.

I don’t think we will though.

The tie is still very much in the balance. They can easily pull back that lead.

Not In The Know
13-08-2023, 03:46 PM
Hanlon has captained the team to two league defeats in a row. He needs to take some responsibility. It'll be another manager they have both seen off.

Lewis has been murder today.

That second goal is what you get when you take another team’s junior centre half on loan to develop him.

Vault Boy
13-08-2023, 03:46 PM
Don’t forget to update your LinkedIn profile on the way out the door.

Not In The Know
13-08-2023, 03:47 PM
Could really swap him for any manager in the league over the past 2 seasons he rarely gets the better of the opposition manager

Long ball pub team appears to be the tactics this season in the league. Quicker we get shot of him the better.

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bang on. Proven by every team in the division beating us last year.

SHODAN
13-08-2023, 03:47 PM
Yeah, fair. Time to go. Sorry.

Liam6270
13-08-2023, 03:47 PM
Time to cut our losses, it’s not just his record it’s the manner of the football and the same guff he comes out with after every defeat. The board have been bold with the signings now it’s time to get rid of this clown

Northernhibee
13-08-2023, 03:47 PM
Can anyone make him an app with directions to the train station?

Stevie Reid
13-08-2023, 03:47 PM
Lose on Thursday and he has to go. Four points worse off than we were at this stage last season, our opening two last year were tougher fixtures as well.

Going backwards in every sense. The odd good win and good performance is law of averages stuff, never been sustained over his tenure.

I think any other SPL manager would get way more from this squad.

SteveHFC
13-08-2023, 03:48 PM
Just get him gone.

Stuart93
13-08-2023, 03:48 PM
I’d be telling this clown, go through in Europe, go through in the league cup & 7 points minimum from your next 3 league games or you’re out the door

We’re ****ing rotten & he’s been allowed to spend nearly £2m? When does it stop

Paulie Walnuts
13-08-2023, 03:49 PM
The tie is still very much in the balance. They can easily pull back that lead.

And if they do he should be out the door.

Scottie
13-08-2023, 03:49 PM
Look on the bright side boys & girls we’re only 6 points of top of the league.

Time to go Lee.

Spike Mandela
13-08-2023, 03:49 PM
Dreadful start to the league seaon by Hibs. Two pretty woeful performances.

Got to think that despite European heroics midweek that LJ is now vulnerable to scrutiny from the board.

Jim44
13-08-2023, 03:49 PM
Obviously he is going to get Thursday and next Sunday unfortunately.

I don’t think he will necessarily get these matches. There is something fundamentally wrong with his management. I think we have a decent squad of players but he is incapable of getting them to perform consistently well.

The Captain....
13-08-2023, 03:50 PM
He has to go. Today was tge final straw. Anyone with eyes can tell he has no ideas.

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hibeedonald
13-08-2023, 03:50 PM
Remember AZ lost to Dundee United last year, one big win at home in Europe means **** all.

Gatecrasher
13-08-2023, 03:51 PM
Another proud day for LJ's hibs. Bottom of the league?

Mind we fancied this start to the league :rolleyes:

Hibs90
13-08-2023, 03:51 PM
I don’t think he will necessarily get these matches. There is something fundamentally wrong with his management. I think we have a decent squad of players but he is incapable of getting them to perform consistently well.

He's just spent a ton of money for a Hibs manager. He is well in with the board. He's going nowhere after this.

However if we don't go through on Thursday and end up losing next Sunday I think they will have no choice.

gazzag70
13-08-2023, 03:51 PM
Surely nobody can defend that kind of performance.He has had his chance but has to go asap. He is way out of his depth. We have players that can do so much better than that.

chrisski33
13-08-2023, 03:53 PM
Lost first two games we should be winning. In a way it was typical we would lose after Thursday but its clear why he is called Streaky Lee. Id sack him now. Hes had his time

jacomo
13-08-2023, 03:54 PM
Johnson in out in out shake it all about.

Viva_Palmeiras
13-08-2023, 03:54 PM
I’ve said it before… for a manager that never shies away from how manag games he has under his belt he doesn’t seem to learn lessons or use his experience to get a tune out of the players at his disposal. Regardless of whether they are his players or not.

Pretty Boy
13-08-2023, 03:55 PM
01563 545300

FAO Brian and Ben the above is the contact number for Kilmarnock FC. Use it and ask for their manager.

The Captain....
13-08-2023, 03:56 PM
01563 545300

FAO Brian and Ben the above is the contact number for Kilmarnock FC. Use it and ask for their manager.Like [emoji106]

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Nicho87
13-08-2023, 03:57 PM
Neil Lennon or Derek mcinnes

Asap

SaulGoodman
13-08-2023, 03:57 PM
Bye bye

SlickShoes
13-08-2023, 03:57 PM
When we play well I think it's in spite of him, rather than because of him.

We have the players to be good, but this guy just isn't it.

ErinGoBraghHFC
13-08-2023, 03:57 PM
01563 545300

FAO Brian and Ben the above is the contact number for Kilmarnock FC. Use it and ask for their manager.

Derek McInnes SOS


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Since452
13-08-2023, 03:57 PM
01563 545300

FAO Brian and Ben the above is the contact number for Kilmarnock FC. Use it and ask for their manager.

A draw against Hearts? McInnes out.

sean04
13-08-2023, 03:58 PM
Happy clappers can't defend this, absolutely pathetic

BarneyHibby
13-08-2023, 03:59 PM
Absolute dreadful performance again... Sack him now

Northernhibee
13-08-2023, 03:59 PM
01563 545300

FAO Brian and Ben the above is the contact number for Kilmarnock FC. Use it and ask for their manager.

0161 444 1894

Here's Man City's. Give them a phone and ask for a couple of loans, that's the extent of LJ's talents.

Not In The Know
13-08-2023, 03:59 PM
01563 545300

FAO Brian and Ben the above is the contact number for Kilmarnock FC. Use it and ask for their manager.


This!!!!!

JammyDoidger
13-08-2023, 03:59 PM
Lennon in before Thursday please.

Vault Boy
13-08-2023, 04:00 PM
I looked at the scoreline because I’m psychotic like that and Hibs lost 2-1 to Motherwell. So, I asked Lee if a lion had been behind him in the dugout, would he become a competent manager? He said no, I’m simply not capable, which I thought was quite funny.

green day
13-08-2023, 04:00 PM
Happy clappers can't defend this, absolutely pathetic


Yeah but Europe......or something.

He's gotta go

Since452
13-08-2023, 04:00 PM
Lennon in before Thursday please.

Do you want us relegated?

Joe6-2
13-08-2023, 04:00 PM
Absolute dreadful performance again... Sack him now

Let’s not wait until the damage can’t be repaired, but I think after Thursday he will be safe for now

truehibernian
13-08-2023, 04:01 PM
I’ve said it before… for a manager that never shies away from how manag games he has under his belt he doesn’t seem to learn lessons or use his experience to get a tune out of the players at his disposal. Regardless of whether they are his players or not.

He should maybe stop texting players and staff after bad results too 👍 his texting thumb will be busy again today no doubt too.

Needs to go, his credibility is non existent.

BlackSheep
13-08-2023, 04:01 PM
A mate of mine was speaking with Ben Kensell yesterday and Lee hasn’t got many losses left before they pull the trigger. I’m hoping now that today is his last…. But we all know he will get Thursday and Raith… and his luck suggests he will get results in those games and stay 👎

jacomo
13-08-2023, 04:01 PM
0161 444 1894

Here's Man City's. Give them a phone and ask for a couple of loans, that's the extent of LJ's talents.


Our gaffer has already got all the key people at City on speed dial and they always answer his call.

JammyDoidger
13-08-2023, 04:02 PM
Do you want us relegated?

No that's why I want Lennon in.

Stanton Spence
13-08-2023, 04:02 PM
He's just spent a ton of money for a Hibs manager. He is well in with the board. He's going nowhere after this.

However if we don't go through on Thursday and end up losing next Sunday I think they will have no choice.

He’s about as well in with the board as anyone else who happens to be the manager of the club there’s no sentiment involved

GreenGray
13-08-2023, 04:02 PM
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.


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Pac Man
13-08-2023, 04:02 PM
I looked at the scoreline because I’m psychotic like that and Hibs lost 2-1 to Motherwell. So, I asked Lee if a lion had been behind him in the dugout, would he become a competent manager? He said no, I’m simply not capable, which I thought was quite funny.Funny if it wasn't true. [emoji85][emoji1787]

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EH54
13-08-2023, 04:03 PM
People asking for Lennon seem to forget that even before the dressing room bust up rumours his job was at risk anyway, we were on a brutal run and playing ****.

I’ve had enough of LJ in the dugout though.

Kentao1985
13-08-2023, 04:03 PM
How can we be so bad with the most expensive forward line out with the old firm.

How are we getting turned over consistently by teams that are relying on free transfers.

We have 1 of the best training facilities in the league WTF are we doing during the week.

LJ has had more than enough time to put his stamp on the team, he promised high tempo pressing attacking football, some weeks we struggle to get a shot on target.

He needs to go.

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CathroMustStay
13-08-2023, 04:03 PM
Lee Johnson is a dud.

We all know it, but he's not going anywhere before September.

I could foresee us going out on penalties on Thursday, then narrowly beating Raith in the cup to give LJ more respite.

He's here!
13-08-2023, 04:03 PM
Zero points from kindly opening fixtures to St Mirren and Motherwell. That goes down as pathetic.

More than capable of losing 2 or 3 nil on Thursday based on today. That would surely put LJ on the brink?

WhileTheChief..
13-08-2023, 04:04 PM
No that's why I want Lennon in.

We should at least be speaking to him to see if he's interested.

Hibbyradge
13-08-2023, 04:05 PM
A mate of mine was speaking with Ben Kensell yesterday and Lee hasn’t got many losses left before they pull the trigger. I’m hoping now that today is his last…. But we all know he will get Thursday and Raith… and his luck suggests he will get results in those games and stay 👎

Thumbs down?

You don't want us to lose those games, do you?

I know patience has worn thin for LJ, if there's any left at all, but surely we want us to win our games even if that means he stays longer.

Northernhibee
13-08-2023, 04:05 PM
No that's why I want Lennon in.

I'm assuming you mean Danny Lennon then as we need a manager who can build and improve a squad over time. Neil Lennon gets a short term reaction and then it falls apart soon after.

Either way, Danny or Neil - not the answer.

Derek McInnes for me.

churchie16
13-08-2023, 04:07 PM
Board ain’t sucking this guy for a while and definitely not after 2 games, needs sacked 100 percent but they won’t do it, buckle in

NC1875
13-08-2023, 04:07 PM
Derek McInnes should’ve had the job before Johnson in the first place.

He’s just built a good squad on a pittance at Kilmarnock picking up 4 points in 2 very hard opening games.

Meanwhile Johnson has spent a fortune and done nothing.

It’s a no brainier Hibs. Get it done

eastmainsmsh
13-08-2023, 04:07 PM
Steven Reid next manager McDermotts coach at Reading ?

Was in Scotland coaching set up

Stevie Reid
13-08-2023, 04:08 PM
Is there a serious argument that can be made by anyone for keeping him?

number9dream
13-08-2023, 04:08 PM
He is not a serious person, to quote Logan Roy.

BlackSheep
13-08-2023, 04:08 PM
Thumbs down?

You don't want us to lose those games, do you?

I know patience has worn thin for LJ, if there's any left at all, but surely we want us to win our games even if that means he stays longer.

Nah, of course I don’t want us to lose these games, it’s just frustrating that he keeps getting a stay of execution, the thumbs down was for that situation.

I have actually been in the ‘give him time’ camp for a long time, but I’m just completely at a loss as to how we go from such highs to such lows in a relatively short space of time.

Smartie
13-08-2023, 04:09 PM
How can we be so bad with the most expensive forward line out with the old firm.

How are we getting turned over consistently by teams that are relying on free transfers.

We have 1 of the best training facilities in the league WTF are we doing during the week.

LJ has had more than enough time to put his stamp on the team, he promised high tempo pressing attacking football, some weeks we struggle to get a shot on target.

He needs to go.

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Because it’s a forward line we’re yet to see play together, we’re needing to rotate players with a paper thin squad, we don’t have the midfielders needed to match our expectations, no experience at RB and a finished goalkeeper?

Then you get onto those who you might reasonably expect better from (Stevenson and Fish) costing us dear for the goals today?

green day
13-08-2023, 04:09 PM
Is there a serious argument that can be made by anyone for keeping him?

No

Hibbyradge
13-08-2023, 04:09 PM
Nah, of course I don’t want us to lose these games, it’s just frustrating that he keeps getting a stay of execution, the thumbs down was for that situation.

I have actually been in the ‘give him time’ camp for a long time, but I’m just completely at a loss as to how we go from such highs to such lows in a relatively short space of time.

👍

Since452
13-08-2023, 04:09 PM
Is there a serious argument that can be made by anyone for keeping him?

Wins the big games?

Phil MaGlass
13-08-2023, 04:10 PM
Johnson will be gone after were out of Europe, so 3 weeks

WhileTheChief..
13-08-2023, 04:10 PM
Haven't seen any of those posts, I've no doubt you'll all be back with sack L. J. in the not too distant future.

What's your thoughts today? Do you still think sticking with LJ is the right thing to do? What will it take for you to change your mind?

I think we'd be better off with someone else. Same as I've always thought!

Since452
13-08-2023, 04:11 PM
We should at least be speaking to him to see if he's interested.

This place is mental. Do you remember the football under that clown?

Unseen work
13-08-2023, 04:11 PM
I’ve got a feeling we’ll get battered in the second leg, they were unlucky not to score a couple against us.

Them at home and raising their game again makes me fear for us, especially how bad we are at the back

bordergreen
13-08-2023, 04:12 PM
We should at least be speaking to him to see if he's interested.

Don’t want Lennon, he is not the answer, but Johnson’s Shoogly Peg must be almost off the wall.

Fuzzywuzzy
13-08-2023, 04:12 PM
Did he scurry off down the tunnel at the final whistle?

Daily Hibs
13-08-2023, 04:12 PM
I'm assuming you mean Danny Lennon then as we need a manager who can build and improve a squad over time. Neil Lennon gets a short term reaction and then it falls apart soon after.

Either way, Danny or Neil - not the answer.

Derek McInnes for me.

Yes, it's a no Brainer.

Get McInnes in and I hope his first job us to get Hanlon and Stevenson out the door after that today. Enough is enough.

Paul1642
13-08-2023, 04:13 PM
I’m still for Holding onto to Johnson for but if he goes it has to be McInnes for me.

Viva_Palmeiras
13-08-2023, 04:13 PM
Neil Lennon or Derek mcinnes

Asap

Serious question: has there been a case collective amnesia over MacInnes reign at Aberdeen?

We’re just as fickle as them if not more. If Jack couldn’t last because of his “steady as she goes” approach there’s not much chance for Del… Has it really com to this?

We do howver need a manager that can work with the players at his disposal.

Hibbyradge
13-08-2023, 04:13 PM
Yes, it's a no Brainer.

Get McInnes in and I hope his first job us to get Hanlon and Stevenson out the door after that today. Enough is enough.

What did Hanlon do wrong? My stream wasn't very good but he looked fine when I saw him.

Hibs90
13-08-2023, 04:13 PM
Johnson will be gone after were out of Europe, so 3 weeks

By which point, the window will be shut and we will have yet again failed to address the midfield and defence

GreenGray
13-08-2023, 04:14 PM
He is not a serious person, to quote Logan Roy.

And replacing him with Lennon would be like replacing Kendall with Roman, hopefully everyone gets that reference. (If you don’t I mean it would be idiotic)


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LancsHibs
13-08-2023, 04:14 PM
Get Scotty Brown in ASAP please

Pretty Boy
13-08-2023, 04:14 PM
Is there a serious argument that can be made by anyone for keeping him?

The main one seems to be that 'we can't keep sacking managers'.

That's fair enough if that's what you believe. I disagree and think persisting with the wrong man is worse than admitting you made another error but each to their own. It's hardly a ringing endorsement of Johnson though. It's one step up from 'well who else is there?'

The start to the season is very concerning, the only saving grace is both Hearts and Aberdeen have dropped early points as well.

Broxburn Greens
13-08-2023, 04:14 PM
Yes, it's a no Brainer.

Get McInnes in and I hope his first job us to get Hanlon and Stevenson out the door after that today. Enough is enough.

I’d take McInnes, not a big fan of his style, but at least he would know how to set up and play St. Mirren & Motherwell FFS.

Hibbyradge
13-08-2023, 04:15 PM
And replacing him with Lennon would be like replacing Kendall with Roman, hopefully everyone gets that reference. (If you don’t I mean it would be idiotic)


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It would be funny though.

Since452
13-08-2023, 04:15 PM
He can't keep on losing league games as phenomenal as Europe was.

GreenGray
13-08-2023, 04:15 PM
It would be funny though.

Funny for other teams fans yes


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Pretty Boy
13-08-2023, 04:17 PM
Serious question: has there been a case collective amnesia over MacInnes reign at Aberdeen?

We’re just as fickle as them if not more. If Jack couldn’t last because of his “steady as she goes” approach there’s not much chance for Del… Has it really com to this?

We do howver need a manager that can work with the players at his disposal.

The only amnesia about McInnes at Aberdeen is from the people who seem determined to paint it as a failure.

I'm not going through it all again but his record there was exceptional in the league and included 4 2nd place finishes, one with Hearts and Rangers in the league and one with both of them and us. It seems he committed the crime of shutting up shop when he was winning comfortably at Easter Road and that's what everyone bases their opinion on.

4 points from 6 from games against Hearts and Rangers this season with a squad built on a shoestring whilst we have 0 from 6 against St Mirren and ****ing Motherwell.

I find it baffling people don't want him tbh.

Bridge hibs
13-08-2023, 04:17 PM
Get Scotty Brown in ASAP please

Yeah because a rookie manager is just what we need right now

Phil MaGlass
13-08-2023, 04:18 PM
People asking for Lennon seem to forget that even before the dressing room bust up rumours his job was at risk anyway, we were on a brutal run and playing ****.

I’ve had enough of LJ in the dugout though.

Folk askin fir Lennon(insert two hundred pi5hin masel emojis). Lennon another f,n oxygen thief,

HendoDelivered
13-08-2023, 04:18 PM
Get Scotty Brown in ASAP please

Another inexperienced manager? Good shout

sean04
13-08-2023, 04:19 PM
He can't keep on losing league games as phenomenal as Europe was.

Beating a pub side and a decent 45mins is hardly phenomenal

Phil MaGlass
13-08-2023, 04:19 PM
Get Scotty Brown in ASAP please

You on drugs

Daily Hibs
13-08-2023, 04:19 PM
I’d take McInnes, not a big fan of his style, but at least he would know how to set up and play St. Mirren & Motherwell FFS.

Even Stephen Robinson would be a better option than LJ.

Vault Boy
13-08-2023, 04:20 PM
Another inexperienced manager? Good shout

Well Johnson was our experienced choice so I hardly think you can make sweeping assessments either way. It’s all about the individual. An inexperienced manager did something no manager could for 114 years.

JohnM1875
13-08-2023, 04:20 PM
Even Stephen Robinson would be a better option than LJ.

He'd be the man for me as well

Daily Hibs
13-08-2023, 04:22 PM
Beating a pub side and a decent 45mins is hardly phenomenal

Just paper over cracks really, don't see the hype with these qualifiers myself when we will end up getting well and truly smashed by Aston Villa.

The league form is very concerning this early and should be the be all and end all for Hibs. Being strong in the league.

NC1875
13-08-2023, 04:22 PM
The only amnesia about McInnes at Aberdeen is from the people who seem determined to paint it as a failure.

I'm not going through it all again but his record there was exceptional in the league and included 4 2nd place finishes, one with Hearts and Rangers in the league and one with both of them and us. It seems he committed the crime of shutting up shop when he was winning comfortably at Easter Road and that's what everyone bases their opinion on.

4 points from 6 from games against Hearts and Rangers this season with a squad built on a shoestring whilst we have 0 from 6 against St Mirren and ****ing Motherwell.

I find it baffling people don't want him tbh.

Exactly. When Rangers were out of the league he stepped up and had his team consistently finish 2nd. We got ourselves relegated aroung the same time.

He’s now built a solid team at Kilmarnock without any the spending Johnson has.

He knows how to set up a team to play in this league. It really is a no brainer

cabbageandribs1875
13-08-2023, 04:23 PM
McInnes was who we SHOULD have went for


but i don't think we will have the cash to buy out his remaining 3-year contract at Killie, and besides, i'm sure he's quite happy there




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jeffers
13-08-2023, 04:23 PM
For those that have been defending him do you go into any games with confidence that we will show up in them ? I never know what to expect but performances and results like today are all too common.

Stevie Reid
13-08-2023, 04:24 PM
Serious question: has there been a case collective amnesia over MacInnes reign at Aberdeen?

We’re just as fickle as them if not more. If Jack couldn’t last because of his “steady as she goes” approach there’s not much chance for Del… Has it really com to this?

We do howver need a manager that can work with the players at his disposal.

Has it really come to wanting to appoint a manager whose record in the SPL with three different teams has been excellent?

The stuff about his teams being boring an dull to watch is a myth, at least for the vast majority of his time at Aberdeen.

There are never any cast iron guarantees when appointing a manager, but McInnes is as close to one as you’ll get. He would sort us out defensively, and know how to get the best from our attacking threats.

He should have been appointed after Ross, it was a massive open goal. Not doing so has set us back massively, and given an even bigger financial advanced to both Aberdeen and Hearts.

Daily Hibs
13-08-2023, 04:25 PM
Exactly. When Rangers were out of the league he stepped up and had his team consistently finish 2nd. We got ourselves relegated aroung the same time.

He’s now built a solid team at Kilmarnock without any the spending Johnson has.

He knows how to set up a team to play in this league. It really is a no brainer

Imagine not wanting a manager that delivered that level of continued success. He even turned Rangers down to stay at Aberdeen.

Hibees1973
13-08-2023, 04:26 PM
I think we need to be honest with each other that Thursday just papered over huge cracks in the side.

We keep going from highs and lows with him. There have been a lot more lows than highs under Johnson.

Thursday is in the balance and pivotal to fan opinion on Johnson. My gut feeling is that even with a two goal lead our defence will crumble under pressure over there. Johnson is unable to get a disciplined and strong defensive performance from what we have. We have not strengthened the weakest parts of our side, in defence. We rode our luck somewhat last Thursday. If we get knocked out of Europe and struggle against RR next weekend he really has to go.

McIness 100% for me. He would get a whole lot more out of this squad.

JeMeSouviens
13-08-2023, 04:27 PM
Imagine not wanting a manager that delivered that level of continued success. He even turned Rangers down to stay at Aberdeen.

Agree. But think he might well turn us down in the same way he turned down the *******, basket case Huns to stay with Aberdeen.

Basildon Hibs
13-08-2023, 04:27 PM
We'd be better off with a shaved monkey in charge, rather than that slavering clown Johnson

😁

neil7908
13-08-2023, 04:28 PM
Exactly. When Rangers were out of the league he stepped up and had his team consistently finish 2nd. We got ourselves relegated aroung the same time.

He’s now built a solid team at Kilmarnock without any the spending Johnson has.

He knows how to set up a team to play in this league. It really is a no brainer

As it stands I'd take him over LJ but have a look over some of the match day threads from when we played his Aberdeen side. Many folk were saying they'd never turn up if that's the kind of football Hibs played week in, week out.

Boring and steady is an improvement on now but I don't know how long that will keep us going once LJ is a distant memory.

Basildon Hibs
13-08-2023, 04:28 PM
Just paper over cracks really, don't see the hype with these qualifiers myself when we will end up getting well and truly smashed by Aston Villa.

The league form is very concerning this early and should be the ball and end all for Hibs. Being strong in the league.

👍👍🫵

Stevie Reid
13-08-2023, 04:29 PM
The only amnesia about McInnes at Aberdeen is from the people who seem determined to paint it as a failure.

I'm not going through it all again but his record there was exceptional in the league and included 4 2nd place finishes, one with Hearts and Rangers in the league and one with both of them and us. It seems he committed the crime of shutting up shop when he was winning comfortably at Easter Road and that's what everyone bases their opinion on.

4 points from 6 from games against Hearts and Rangers this season with a squad built on a shoestring whilst we have 0 from 6 against St Mirren and ****ing Motherwell.

I find it baffling people don't want him tbh.

Couldn’t agree more. Think he had as many as 24 league wins one season, and never less than 20 in a full season at Aberdeen.

Everything his Dons side showed when regularly beating us at ER - being clinical, holding onto a lead and seeing the game out, being street smart and managing the game well - are things that many on here have complained that we cannot do.

I just hope we haven’t missed our chance. I’ve no doubt he’d walk here from Killie, but they may well hold out for serious cash, and I can’t see him resigning in bad faith.

Stuart93
13-08-2023, 04:29 PM
It’s the complete lack of tactics so far that’s worried me. Long balls constantly

Since452
13-08-2023, 04:29 PM
I think we need to be honest with each other that Thursday just papered over huge cracks in the side.

We keep going from highs and lows with him. There have been a lot more lows than highs under Johnson.

Thursday is in the balance and pivotal to fan opinion on Johnson. My gut feeling is that even with a two goal lead our defence will crumble under pressure over there. Johnson is unable to get a disciplined and strong defensive performance from what we have. We have not strengthened the weakest parts of our side, in defence. We rode our luck somewhat last Thursday. If we get knocked out of Europe and struggle against RR next weekend he really has to go.

McIness 100% for me. He would get a whole lot more out of this squad.

I think we'll lose 3-0 over there.

Hibernia&Alba
13-08-2023, 04:29 PM
He can't keep on losing league games as phenomenal as Europe was.

We can't sack a manager two games into the season. If we wanted rid, it should have been in the summer. We now have to give him a chance.

Stevie Reid
13-08-2023, 04:30 PM
As it stands I'd take him over LJ but have a look over some of the match day threads from when we played his Aberdeen side. Many folk were saying they'd never turn up if that's the kind of football Hibs played week in, week out.

Boring and steady is an improvement on now but I don't know how long that will keep us going once LJ is a distant memory.

Those were away performances though. Let’s not pretend that we wouldn’t all be delighted to go away to our biggest non-OF rivals and regularly grind out wins.

Hibees1973
13-08-2023, 04:31 PM
No clean sheets so far this season and this includes 2 games against a junior side.

This team/squad just cannot defend.

No team is successful with a leaky, weak defence.

Viva_Palmeiras
13-08-2023, 04:32 PM
The only amnesia about McInnes at Aberdeen is from the people who seem determined to paint it as a failure.

I'm not going through it all again but his record there was exceptional in the league and included 4 2nd place finishes, one with Hearts and Rangers in the league and one with both of them and us. It seems he committed the crime of shutting up shop when he was winning comfortably at Easter Road and that's what everyone bases their opinion on.

4 points from 6 from games against Hearts and Rangers this season with a squad built on a shoestring whilst we have 0 from 6 against St Mirren and ****ing Motherwell.

I find it baffling people don't want him tbh.

Yet we pipped them them to finals and despite their huffing and puffing didn’t manage to win against the OF (I can’t recall if he was at the helm for those jaw dropping drubbings ?

I’m actually on the fence on Del, just holding up a mirror that I think is accurate enough in my experience of the fickleness of our support.

We’d soon see how fans take to him or not given he’s somewhat of a known quantity.

Did his Killie beat Hearts today - well they didn’t lose afaik which I suppose is something.

Could I foresee a Hibs support accepting basketball / Jamboesque team fouling of key opposition players and a Shinnie-esque player reffing a game whilst his teams commit niggly fouls to disrupt the rhythm of the game? I suppose I’ve now knocked myself off the fence … I may be wrong but can’t quite see him as a fit at Hibs unless as a support we’ve changed course. This is a geniune think out loud post. Others may obv agree or disagree…

green day
13-08-2023, 04:32 PM
We can't sack a manager two games into the season. If we wanted rid, it should have been in the summer. We now have to give him a chance.

No, we should have sacked him 12 months ago. He's had his chance.

He needs fired now.

Daily Hibs
13-08-2023, 04:32 PM
Yet we pipped them them to finals and despite their huffing and puffing didn’t manage to win against the OF (I can’t recall if he was at the helm for those jaw dropping drubbings ?

I’m actually on the fence on Del, just holding up a mirror that I think is accurate enough in my experience of the fickleness of our support.

We’d soon see how fans take to him or not given he’s somewhat of a known quantity.

Did his Killie beat Hearts today - well they didn’t lose afaik which I suppose is something.

Could I foresee a Hibs support accepting basketball / Jamboesque team fouling of key opposition players and a Shinnie-esque player reffing a game whilst his teams commit niggly fouls to disrupt the rhythm of the game? I suppose I’ve now knocked myself off the fence … I may be wrong but can’t quite see him as a fit at Hibs unless as a support we’ve changed course. This is a geniune think out loud post. Others may obv agree or disagree…

They beat us in 2017 Scottish Cup Semi Final.

bingo70
13-08-2023, 04:34 PM
We can't sack a manager two games into the season. If we wanted rid, it should have been in the summer. We now have to give him a chance.

I’m a wee bit sort of there. If it’s not working with LJ then we don’t really need to decide 2 weeks in. He’ll either do well or be sacked soon I think,

I’ve got concerns about LJ, if I’m hinest I think his sacking is inevitable, probably quite soon. In saying that though, I was full of praise for him 3 days ago.

If I was in charge of Hibs, I wouldn’t sack him now, I wouldn’t be confident of him seeing the end of the month though.

The Modfather
13-08-2023, 04:34 PM
As it stands I'd take him over LJ but have a look over some of the match day threads from when we played his Aberdeen side. Many folk were saying they'd never turn up if that's the kind of football Hibs played week in, week out.

Boring and steady is an improvement on now but I don't know how long that will keep us going once LJ is a distant memory.

Did he play boring and pragmatic out of desire, or was that the only way to continue the consistency when losing players? With the money we now spend I’d hope he would want to set up like his early days where he had McGinn & Hayes as wingers and were good to watch.

I just want a manager, any manager, that views the midfield as the most important area of the team, and not one to fawn over stats wise while it struggles in the reality of playing games.

blackpoolhibs
13-08-2023, 04:34 PM
What did Hanlon do wrong? My stream wasn't very good but he looked fine when I saw him.

Hanlon played well, a couple of over hit passes, but defended well most of the game. Stevenson had a good game too, apart from his brain fart at the goal.

The team though are just sheite, no cohession, no football pattern just hoof it and hope for the best. I can see that when we are playing good sides, get them turning and press further up the park, but this was Motherwell FFS.

Basildon Hibs
13-08-2023, 04:34 PM
We can't sack a manager two games into the season. If we wanted rid, it should have been in the summer. We now have to give him a chance.

Why not? 🤔

Stuart93
13-08-2023, 04:34 PM
We can't sack a manager two games into the season. If we wanted rid, it should have been in the summer. We now have to give him a chance.

He’s had a chance, £2m spent and two losses against st mirren and Motherwell.

Greenwich_Hibby
13-08-2023, 04:35 PM
Robinson would at least play to a system and motivate the players.

Basildon Hibs
13-08-2023, 04:35 PM
No, we should have sacked him 12 months ago. He's had his chance.

He needs fired now.

Correct.

Pretty Boy
13-08-2023, 04:37 PM
Couldn’t agree more. Think he had as many as 24 league wins one season, and never less than 20 in a full season at Aberdeen.

Everything his Dons side showed when regularly beating us at ER - being clinical, holding onto a lead and seeing the game out, being street smart and managing the game well - are things that many on here have complained that we cannot do.

I just hope we haven’t missed our chance. I’ve no doubt he’d walk here from Killie, but they may well hold out for serious cash, and I can’t see him resigning in bad faith.

Also worth pointing out for all the chat about him being boring his Aberdeen team scored goals:

13/14 - 53 (4th most in the league)
14/15 - 57 (3rd)
15/16 - 62 (2nd)
16/17 - 74 (2nd)
17/18 - 56 (4th)
18/19 - 57 (3rd)
19/20 - 40 (5th, league cut short)

It wasn't all just 1-0 wins playing industrial hoofball.

Hibernia&Alba
13-08-2023, 04:40 PM
Why not? 🤔


He’s had a chance, £2m spent and two losses against st mirren and Motherwell.

Because we're only two games in. Just my humble opinion, but, the board, having decided he would be manager this season, should now give him some time at least to do the job.

I wouldn't have been upset had Johnson been sacked in the summer, but he wasn't. The board decided they have faith in him; they would look clueless if they sacked him now. We are where we are. Personally, I would now give him a bit of time, but the clock is ticking.

Viva_Palmeiras
13-08-2023, 04:42 PM
Also worth pointing out for all the chat about him being boring his Aberdeen team scored goals:

13/14 - 53 (4th most in the league)
14/15 - 57 (3rd)
15/16 - 62 (2nd)
16/17 - 74 (2nd)
17/18 - 56 (4th)
18/19 - 57 (3rd)
19/20 - 40 (5th, league cut short)

It wasn't all just 1-0 wins playing industrial hoofball.

maybe he like Miller got stale and familiarity breeds contempt but the Dandies found him very marmite esp towards the end. Wonder what they’d make of this thread…

Stuart93
13-08-2023, 04:42 PM
Because we're only two games in. Just my humble opinion, but, the board, having decided he would be manager this season, should now give him some time at least to do the job.

I wouldn't have been upset had Johnson been sacked in the summer, but he wasn't. The board decided they have faith in him; they would look clueless if they sacked him now. We are where we are. Personally, I would now give him a bit of time, but the clock is ticking.

They are clueless.

A bit of time to do what exactly? Prove to the happy clappers that this isn’t getting any better?

One Day Soon
13-08-2023, 04:43 PM
We can't sack a manager two games into the season. If we wanted rid, it should have been in the summer. We now have to give him a chance.

Yes, we can.

LancsHibs
13-08-2023, 04:45 PM
Yeah because a rookie manager is just what we need right now

No you’re right we should get someone with experience in just like Lee Johnson!! Besides Brown is doing a cracking job at Fleetwood, did incredibly well last season at a very small club with major problems punching well above its weight

sean04
13-08-2023, 04:46 PM
Because we're only two games in. Just my humble opinion, but, the board, having decided he would be manager this season, should now give him some time at least to do the job.

I wouldn't have been upset had Johnson been sacked in the summer, but he wasn't. The board decided they have faith in him; they would look clueless if they sacked him now. We are where we are. Personally, I would now give him a bit of time, but the clock is ticking.

Not just 2 games tho, lost st mirren and motherwell. Lost in Andorra. 3 unacceptable results this season.

Last season knocked out the league Cup at group stage. Knocked out by hearts in scottish, beat 3-0 twice in a row. 9 games without a win during the season. Football crap and predictable. Numerous players signed most of them failures. Vdifficult to like him with his smug and nonsense interviews

Hibernia&Alba
13-08-2023, 04:47 PM
They are clueless.

A bit of time to do what exactly? Prove to the happy clappers that this isn’t getting any better?

I'm not a massive LJ fan. I said last season, when we were on a terrible run of form, that I would have been happy to see him sacked. However, the board backed him and gave him money to spend. I think they should now stand by that decision for a while yet. If league results don't improve quickly, he will be out.

blackpoolhibs
13-08-2023, 04:48 PM
Also worth pointing out for all the chat about him being boring his Aberdeen team scored goals:

13/14 - 53 (4th most in the league)
14/15 - 57 (3rd)
15/16 - 62 (2nd)
16/17 - 74 (2nd)
17/18 - 56 (4th)
18/19 - 57 (3rd)
19/20 - 40 (5th, league cut short)

It wasn't all just 1-0 wins playing industrial hoofball.

I think most Hibs supporters dont like his way because how they strangled games against us after going in front.

Stuart93
13-08-2023, 04:48 PM
I'm not a massive LJ fan. I said last season, when we were on a terrible run of form, that I would have been happy to see him sacked. However, the board backed him and gave him money to spend. I think they should now stand by that decision for a while yet. If league results don't improve quickly, he will be out.

They aren’t improving.

In fact, they’re getting worse

One Day Soon
13-08-2023, 04:49 PM
Not just 2 games tho, lost st mirren and motherwell. Lost in Andorra. 3 unacceptable results this season.

Last season knocked out the league Cup at group stage. Knocked out by hearts in scottish, beat 3-0 twice in a row. 9 games without a win during the season. Football crap and predictable. Numerous players signed most of them failures. Vdifficult to like him with his smug and nonsense interviews

Hard to argue with any of this, not that I want to.

Hibernia&Alba
13-08-2023, 04:49 PM
Not just 2 games tho, lost st mirren and motherwell. Lost in Andorra. 3 unacceptable results this season.

Last season knocked out the league Cup at group stage. Knocked out by hearts in scottish, beat 3-0 twice in a row. 9 games without a win during the season. Football crap and predictable. Numerous players signed most of them failures. Vdifficult to like him with his smug and nonsense interviews

Can't argue with any of that; I agree. I just think it would be a strange moment to sack a manager, having given him money to spend in the summer. It's just my opinion, but I would hang fire for now.

Nicho87
13-08-2023, 04:50 PM
I’ve always said supporting hibs you have to accept losses

But the manner in which we lose under him is stinking

Mcinnes, Lennon or Robinson

Please

mcfly
13-08-2023, 04:50 PM
We can't sack a manager two games into the season. If we wanted rid, it should have been in the summer. We now have to give him a chance.

Of course we can sack him and it’s not two games in. It’s 5 with 3 defeats

No clean sheets either

Bridge hibs
13-08-2023, 04:50 PM
No you’re right we should get someone with experience in just like Lee Johnson!! Besides Brown is doing a cracking job at Fleetwood, did incredibly well last season at a very small club with major problems punching well above its weight

Folk have mentioned McInnes, whilst Im not that much of a fan his experience is vast compared to Brown, whilst I dont disagree he may be doing well currently I would rather he has more seasons under his belt before we would even consider him

1875M
13-08-2023, 04:51 PM
McInnes for me but serious question - would he take the job? He’s doing a good job at Kilmarnock and already interviewed for us and not got the job. Not sure he’d be leaving in a hurry.

Torto7
13-08-2023, 04:53 PM
I'm a bit of a happy clapper usually but he's getting on my wick. He's been here a while now and I still can't see a style of play.

neil7908
13-08-2023, 04:53 PM
Can't argue with any of that; I agree. I just think it would be a strange moment to sack a manager, having given him money to spend in the summer. It's just my opinion, but I would hang fire for now.

I wonder though if our new model changes things. We now have a head of recruitment, who should bring some consistency to the club, rather than just leaving a manager to bring in 'their' players, and the next guy to clear them out.

I know LJ is part of the recruitment process but imo it should allow us less risk in changing manager. Guys like Obita and ALF certainly seem like McDermott signings.

Stuart93
13-08-2023, 04:53 PM
I'm a bit of a happy clapper usually but he's getting on my wick. He's been here a while now and I still can't see a style of play.

There is a style of play. Utter hoofball.

They were genuinely the tactics today, you could see the players constantly looking for long balls.

TimeForHeroes32
13-08-2023, 04:54 PM
Surely even the happy clappers are finally wanting him out after that. Thursday papered over the cracks but he’s still gave us our most embarrassing result in europe and taken 0 out 6 points against two teams we should be beating. Should had been out the door after telling fans to calm down after the performance in Andorra

eastmainsmsh
13-08-2023, 04:57 PM
Our full backs get exposed every game which is concerning

J-C
13-08-2023, 04:57 PM
Beat by part timers over there, lost to 2 teams we're meant to have bigger budgets than but out thought by their managers and beat a decent Luzern purely by having a gung ho 424 tactic that probably surprised them. Today and last Sunday are not exceptions they are the rule with LJ, he got his nickname Streaky for a reason and we've seen it all too often this last 12 months. 3 windows and he still hasn't improved us, I'm still waiting to see this high tempo, high press we were promised at the beginning, out thought and out fought in our 2 league games so far, time for a change, get McInnes in now.

Keyser Sauzee
13-08-2023, 05:01 PM
Don’t have any confidence Johnson can get a consistently performing team together out of this squad and our season will effectively be over come November. We should go after McInnes now but I have my doubts he’d come to us given we passed on him previously.

blackpoolhibs
13-08-2023, 05:02 PM
As it stands I'd take him over LJ but have a look over some of the match day threads from when we played his Aberdeen side. Many folk were saying they'd never turn up if that's the kind of football Hibs played week in, week out.

Boring and steady is an improvement on now but I don't know how long that will keep us going once LJ is a distant memory.
I know, i hate that winning football matches too.:rolleyes:

Hibernia&Alba
13-08-2023, 05:02 PM
I don't think he'll be sacked before the game in Switzerland. Get knocked out, and possibly...:dunno:

Trinity Hibee
13-08-2023, 05:03 PM
McInnes for me but serious question - would he take the job? He’s doing a good job at Kilmarnock and already interviewed for us and not got the job. Not sure he’d be leaving in a hurry.

He absolutely would take the job IMO. Huge potential with us. Might have to sacrifice some style but he gets results which is all I’m fussed about. Sick of being beat by absolute **** SPFL teams.

erin go bragh
13-08-2023, 05:04 PM
His team selection almost every game is wrong and to bring on Henderson who hasn’t kicked a ball in ages is ridiculous. I can’t even stomach listening to his after match pathetic dribble anymore.

Trinity Hibee
13-08-2023, 05:04 PM
I don't think he'll be sacked before the game in Switzerland. Get knocked out, and possibly...:dunno:

He won’t be sacked before Thursday. Would be a similar decision to sacking JR before the cup final and the board won’t do that again. If he loses Thursday and doesn’t win next weekend I think that will be it.

neil7908
13-08-2023, 05:05 PM
I know, i hate that winning football matches too.:rolleyes:

I sort of get it. But he's not Aberdeen manager any more for a reason. And style is a huge part of that.

Malonga's Cat
13-08-2023, 05:06 PM
There is a style of play. Utter hoofball.

They were genuinely the tactics today, you could see the players constantly looking for long balls.

This 100%. Disguised and described as "diagonal balls". Utter nonsense as it is often a punt up and play off the scraps. If it works (not my cup of tea) then fair enough. It's not working though and then he'll blame the players and talk in cringey cryptic buzzwords. Particularly frustrating when we actually have players who can play football.

LunasBoots
13-08-2023, 05:07 PM
He won't be sacked, if past managers had the same record they certainly would have been long before now, too pally with certain folk at the club.

hibee19
13-08-2023, 05:07 PM
After a poor start last season we improved and qualified for Europe. He earned the right to stay another season. Sacking him now would be a complete knee-jerk reaction.

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Hibbyradge
13-08-2023, 05:07 PM
His team selection almost every game is wrong and to bring on Henderson who hasn’t kicked a ball in ages is ridiculous. I can’t even stomach listening to his after match pathetic dribble anymore.

To be fair, most people were happy enough with the team selection today. I don't think I saw any criticism before the game.

blackpoolhibs
13-08-2023, 05:09 PM
I sort of get it. But he's not Aberdeen manager any more for a reason. And style is a huge part of that.

Look at the run they had under McInness, and look at the players they had, i refuse to believe they didnt play some good stuff under him.

GreenGray
13-08-2023, 05:09 PM
To be fair, most people were happy enough with the team selection today. I don't think I saw any criticism before the game.

Team selection is one thing but it’s the way he sets us up that is the issue.


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Hibernia&Alba
13-08-2023, 05:09 PM
He won’t be sacked before Thursday. Would be a similar decision to sacking JR before the cup final and the board won’t do that again. If he loses Thursday and doesn’t win next weekend I think that will be it.

It all depends upon what the board are thinking. They might have no intention of sacking him, regardless of the next couple of games. I guess time will tell, if we continue losing.

Hibbyradge
13-08-2023, 05:11 PM
Team selection is one thing but it’s the way he sets us up that is the issue.


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The poster mentioned team selection so that's what I answered.

NAE NOOKIE
13-08-2023, 05:12 PM
How can you go from the energy and intensity of Thursday night to what by all accounts was a slow insipid error strewn 90 minutes of what practically every poster on the matchday thread agreed was long ball hoofball?

I'm beginning to believe what another poster said, that when this team gets a result or a good performance it's in spite of Johnson, not because of him. I hate calling for managers to go, but this guy has been given over a million quid to spend, which is supposed to make us competitive with Hearts and Aberdeen, he has all 3 of our big money signings available to him today, he dropped one of them, and we couldn't even manage a single shot on target from open play against one of the teams we are supposed to be able to swat aside to give us that shot at our nearest rivals.

Folk are getting pelters for referring to him as 'Streaky Lee' ... but the fact is we didn't give him that nickname, he came with it and it's not hard to see why when a performance like Thursday night can be the meat in a sandwich where the bread consisted of two woeful performances. Both Aberdeen and Hearts have already dropped points in the first two league games, presenting us with a chance to open a gap already ... instead we are joint bottom of the league after losing two eminently winnable games ... it's simply not good enough.

If he was sacked tomorrow morning I wouldn't bat an eyelid about it. If we get put out of Europe on Thursday he simply has to go IMO and there's the rub, there's every chance he will live up to his nickname and we'll squeeze through, though at this point from a purely football rather than financial point of view the thought of playing Aston Villa when we're capable of performances like today gives me the absolute fear.

Since452
13-08-2023, 05:12 PM
Mcinnes wouldn't last at Hibs. He doesn't play attractive football or win many big games. All the things we hounded Jack Ross out for.

GreenGray
13-08-2023, 05:15 PM
The poster mentioned team selection so that's what I answered.

I know, I’m saying team selection on paper did look fine but it’s the way he set us up that is the issue


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Paulie Walnuts
13-08-2023, 05:16 PM
Look at the run they had under McInness, and look at the players they had, i refuse to believe they didnt play some good stuff under him.

He played plenty good stuff. It’s a myth that he never.

People get themselves all hyped up because he came to Easter Road and would grind out wins. At Pittodrie they played loads of good stuff.

weecounty hibby
13-08-2023, 05:20 PM
I've been on the fence about him but to be honest with 0 points from games v St Mirren and Motherwell and looking like we have no idea on tactics I'm swaying towards him leaving. I've said many times that we go through too many managers and I'd like to see a long term manager like heartsvseem to manage and tye sheep did with McInness.

Hillsidehibby
13-08-2023, 05:21 PM
How can you go from the energy and intensity of Thursday night to what by all accounts was a slow insipid error strewn 90 minutes of what practically every poster on the matchday thread agreed was long ball hoofball?

I'm beginning to believe what another poster said, that when this team gets a result or a good performance it's in spite of Johnson, not because of him. I hate calling for managers to go, but this guy has been given over a million quid to spend, which is supposed to make us competitive with Hearts and Aberdeen, he has all 3 of our big money signings available to him today, he dropped one of them, and we couldn't even manage a single shot on target from open play against one of the teams we are supposed to be able to swat aside to give us that shot at our nearest rivals.

Folk are getting pelters for referring to him as 'Streaky Lee' ... but the fact is we didn't give him that nickname, he came with it and it's not hard to see why when a performance like Thursday night can be the meat in a sandwich where the bread consisted of two woeful performances. Both Aberdeen and Hearts have already dropped points in the first two league games, presenting us with a chance to open a gap already ... instead we are joint bottom of the league after losing two eminently winnable games ... it's simply not good enough.

If he was sacked tomorrow morning I wouldn't bat an eyelid about it. If we get put out of Europe on Thursday he simply has to go IMO and there's the rub, there's every chance he will live up to his nickname and we'll squeeze through, though at this point from a purely football rather than financial point of view the thought of playing Aston Villa when we're capable of performances like today gives me the absolute fear.

If we do somehow squeeze through you know the drill for the next game against Raith

Willis1875
13-08-2023, 05:22 PM
He played plenty good stuff. It’s a myth that he never.

People get themselves all hyped up because he came to Easter Road and would grind out wins. At Pittodrie they played loads of good stuff.

As did St Johnstone when he was there,I think his time in Bristol was a blotch however.
If we are adamant on Scottish football experience then he has to be at the very top of the list imo

Hibbyradge
13-08-2023, 05:22 PM
I know, I’m saying team selection on paper did look fine but it’s the way he set us up that is the issue


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I know what you're saying. The poster I replied to said something different.

Kaiser_Sauzee
13-08-2023, 05:22 PM
Folk have mentioned McInnes, whilst Im not that much of a fan his experience is vast compared to Brown, whilst I dont disagree he may be doing well currently I would rather he has more seasons under his belt before we would even consider him

Is Scott Brown doing 'well' though? Look at the results. I make it 4 wins in 16 competitive matches for Fleetwood.

Folk shouting for Brown need their heads checked.

B.H.F.C
13-08-2023, 05:25 PM
Today was utterly stinking. When we lose under him that’s generally the way it is.

The way he has set us up in the opening two league games has been horrific. Said it after last week that we will still win games here and there because we have players who will score goals when we bother to pass them the ball rather than lump it 60 yards up the park. And sadly, that will keep him in a job for the foreseeable.

His record is crap, his team are often crap, his chat is crap, the way he sets us up is crap. More often than not, watching Hibs with him in charge has been crap. Coming away feeling like I felt today is not the exception.

bingo70
13-08-2023, 05:26 PM
I know, i hate that winning football matches too.:rolleyes:

Tbf it’s easy for you to say when you sit hundreds of miles from ER not having to go every week. If it’s pish to watch you can maybe just go to the bar or turn off the tele.

I know you’re a good fan of the club BH and I’m sorry for using that card, it’s annoying how regularly you have a go at people who want to enjoy watching a team playing attacking football though. It’s fine that you disagree with people like that, I just wish you’d pack it in with the dogs like your post just there that I quoted.

Alfred E Newman
13-08-2023, 05:27 PM
How can you go from the energy and intensity of Thursday night to what by all accounts was a slow insipid error strewn 90 minutes of what practically every poster on the matchday thread agreed was long ball hoofball?

I'm beginning to believe what another poster said, that when this team gets a result or a good performance it's in spite of Johnson, not because of him. I hate calling for managers to go, but this guy has been given over a million quid to spend, which is supposed to make us competitive with Hearts and Aberdeen, he has all 3 of our big money signings available to him today, he dropped one of them, and we couldn't even manage a single shot on target from open play against one of the teams we are supposed to be able to swat aside to give us that shot at our nearest rivals.

Folk are getting pelters for referring to him as 'Streaky Lee' ... but the fact is we didn't give him that nickname, he came with it and it's not hard to see why when a performance like Thursday night can be the meat in a sandwich where the bread consisted of two woeful performances. Both Aberdeen and Hearts have already dropped points in the first two league games, presenting us with a chance to open a gap already ... instead we are joint bottom of the league after losing two eminently winnable games ... it's simply not good enough.

If he was sacked tomorrow morning I wouldn't bat an eyelid about it. If we get put out of Europe on Thursday he simply has to go IMO and there's the rub, there's every chance he will live up to his nickname and we'll squeeze through, though at this point from a purely football rather than financial point of view the thought of playing Aston Villa when we're capable of performances like today gives me the absolute fear.

Unfortunately this the Hibs we are talking about. It should be noted that the first game after one of the greatest nights ever at Easter Road, the 5-0 thrashing of Napoli, we lost 0-1 at home to Morton.

WoreTheGreen
13-08-2023, 05:28 PM
If we win it’s a bit of a surprise
Can fk off any time soon

Centre Hawf
13-08-2023, 05:30 PM
Is Scott Brown doing 'well' though? Look at the results. I make it 4 wins in 16 competitive matches for Fleetwood.

Folk shouting for Brown need their heads checked.

Done very well last season with them considering the budget he has in that division.

SHODAN
13-08-2023, 05:30 PM
If we're 11th, or lower, after the Aberdeen game then I reckon he'll be gone.

Broxburn Greens
13-08-2023, 05:34 PM
Has he been on to spout his usual waffle yet? Or is he hiding again?

blackpoolhibs
13-08-2023, 05:34 PM
Tbf it’s easy for you to say when you sit hundreds of miles from ER not having to go every week. If it’s pish to watch you can maybe just go to the bar or turn off the tele.

I know you’re a good fan of the club BH and I’m sorry for using that card, it’s annoying how regularly you have a go at people who want to enjoy watching a team playing attacking football though. It’s fine that you disagree with people like that, I just wish you’d pack it in with the dogs like your post just there that I quoted.

I dont believe his teams are boring, thats the point. Look at the players he had under him, it's impossible to be boring with them. It's football fans that want total football, winning total football that are living in cookoo land. Football is entertainment, but losing 6-5 would get fairly bloody tedious every week.

Get a manager whos as consistant as him at reaching Europe every season will do me, not the mythical Hibs way that never materialises.

Bridge hibs
13-08-2023, 05:36 PM
Is Scott Brown doing 'well' though? Look at the results. I make it 4 wins in 16 competitive matches for Fleetwood.

Folk shouting for Brown need their heads checked.

I dont know mate as I was just taking what the poster I replied to said

If that makes sense 😃

jeffers
13-08-2023, 05:38 PM
If we're 11th, or lower, after the Aberdeen game then I reckon he'll be gone.

I think he’ll survive until the fans really turn on him at the games, complaining about him on here is one thing but it’s not going to make the board act. They’ve given him great backing they won’t want to pull the trigger yet.

sean
13-08-2023, 05:38 PM
He won’t be sacked while we are still in Europe.

I feel at times Johnson is trying to be way to cute and making personal and tactical changes every single week and this often occurs during games too. I’m not sure the players are actually good enough to adapt week to week or in game to such constant changes. In his post match interview Stuart kettlewell made a point of saying he had no idea how Hibs would set up and I think that’s very telling.

Most clubs in this league, certainly the “ lesser “ sides have a way of playing and a “ identity “ to what they are trying to do. We seem to be constantly chopping and changing what we are upto, if you play with Man City I’m sure that’s fine but i wonder at Hibs and the SPFL if it’s just a lot simpler than that.

I was there today, there’s no way Motherwell have a better squad than us not even close but they are well drilled, aggressive and can tell they’ve been coached to a certain style and they don’t deviate from that.

We look like a bit of a mish mash and almost winging it, when it comes off the quality we have shines through ( Thursday night) but I feel it’s more fluke than by design.

I have no idea how I feel about Lee in terms of keeping his job but I’d have hoped for a lot more of an idea of what we are trying to do by now.

BoomtownHibees
13-08-2023, 05:39 PM
I think he’ll survive until the fans really turn on him at the games, complaining about him on here is one thing but it’s not going to make the board act. They’ve given him great backing they won’t want to pull the trigger yet.

There was a bit of “Johnson GTF” at the end of todays game

B.H.F.C
13-08-2023, 05:39 PM
Has he been on to spout his usual waffle yet? Or is he hiding again?

Heard him on the radio and mentioned a hundred different factors in the result but nothing about him setting us up to simply shell balls forward from minute one.

bingo70
13-08-2023, 05:40 PM
I dont believe his teams are boring, thats the point. Look at the players he had under him, it's impossible to be boring with them. It's football fans that want total football, winning total football that are living in cookoo land. Football is entertainment, but losing 6-5 would get fairly bloody tedious every week.

Get a manager whos as consistant as him at reaching Europe every season will do me, not the mythical Hibs way that never materialises.

I don’t agree with the mythical Hibs way either. I think there’s various ways to entertain, if that’s playing route one football really effectively so we score loads of goals while playing on the front foot that’ll do me.

I’m not against McInnes replacing LJ, I think he’d do a better job on all fronts, he probably wouldn’t be my first choice but that’s probably more on me than him.

WhileTheChief..
13-08-2023, 05:41 PM
This place is mental. Do you remember the football under that clown?

Yup, some good, some not so much. Overall it was way more fun than anything under Maloney or LJ.

ER was buzzing and I loved every minute of it.

I remember walking down ER to the games with total belief that we could get results against Celtic or Rangers. The whole stadium felt similar too. It was tremendous.

Give me games like the natural order, 5-3 and 5-5 and I’ll be happy. Good times back then.

sean
13-08-2023, 05:42 PM
I don’t agree with the mythical Hibs way either. I think there’s various ways to entertain, if that’s playing route one football really effectively so we score loads of goals while playing on the front foot that’ll do me.

I’m not against McInnes replacing LJ, I think he’d do a better job on all fronts, he probably wouldn’t be my first choice but that’s probably more on me than him.

The mythical Hibs way is what holds us back so much. Lot of utter nonsense unless we invest huge money in top players we’d be far better just putting together a competitive side like Mcinnes had at that dons, il happily take apparent ***** football for European group stage footy and 3rd place finishes.

MagicSwirlingShip
13-08-2023, 05:45 PM
Awaiting the weekly word salad post match ramble

Stuart93
13-08-2023, 05:46 PM
I could handle being streaky against the better teams in the league but against the likes of st mirren Motherwell, dundee utd last season

Sick fed up of it now as well as his excuses every week

Northernhibee
13-08-2023, 05:49 PM
Yup, some good, some not so much. Overall it was way more fun than anything under Maloney or LJ.

ER was buzzing and I loved every minute of it.

I remember walking down ER to the games with total belief that we could get results against Celtic or Rangers. The whole stadium felt similar too. It was tremendous.

Give me games like the natural order, 5-3 and 5-5 and I’ll be happy. Good times back then.

Quite a lot of that was because he inherited Stubbs team though. After he had to replace enough of them, it fell apart.

Went to Celtic, got a reaction out of Rogers' players. Once he put his stamp on it, it fell apart.

Lennon is fine if you have a good, balanced group of players and need an instant reaction out of them. He's not a manager to count on doing more than that, and given we're lacking in several key positions it could be a complete disaster with him in charge.

sean
13-08-2023, 05:49 PM
Has he been on to spout his usual waffle yet? Or is he hiding again?

Heard him on sportsound. Some words spoken that I don’t think we’re actually real words! 🤣

tonyrougier123
13-08-2023, 05:51 PM
If Johnson has any input to signings it’s clear he has no clue how to upgrade this team in the positions we need to be better in. Club didn’t mess about in giving Jack Ross the sack,sorry Lee but you’re more deserving of this treatment than your predecessor.nowhere near the standards of a hibs manager. Golden handshake as per with us and a see you later. Pull out all the stops for mcinness and give him a shot at a couple of recruits.

Hibernia&Alba
13-08-2023, 05:51 PM
He won’t be sacked while we are still in Europe.

I feel at times Johnson is trying to be way to cute and making personal and tactical changes every single week and this often occurs during games too. I’m not sure the players are actually good enough to adapt week to week or in game to such constant changes. In his post match interview Stuart kettlewell made a point of saying he had no idea how Hibs would set up and I think that’s very telling.

Most clubs in this league, certainly the “ lesser “ sides have a way of playing and a “ identity “ to what they are trying to do. We seem to be constantly chopping and changing what we are upto, if you play with Man City I’m sure that’s fine but i wonder at Hibs and the SPFL if it’s just a lot simpler than that.

I was there today, there’s no way Motherwell have a better squad than us not even close but they are well drilled, aggressive and can tell they’ve been coached to a certain style and they don’t deviate from that.

We look like a bit of a mish mash and almost winging it, when it comes off the quality we have shines through ( Thursday night) but I feel it’s more fluke than by design.

I have no idea how I feel about Lee in terms of keeping his job but I’d have hoped for a lot more of an idea of what we are trying to do by now.

A fair assessment. We still don't have a recognisable system of play, which is worrying. I still don't know what Johnson's plan is. All in all, it isn't good. Perhaps the win over Luzern has gotten him more time to improve, but he needs to do it quickly, even though it's so early in the season. If he loses a sizeable portion of the fans, he's done for.

I would give him a bit more time. Let's see how results go in the coming weeks.

NAE NOOKIE
13-08-2023, 05:52 PM
If we do somehow squeeze through you know the drill for the next game against Raith

And that's the worry. You just never know what you are going to get.

If we do get through on Thursday his next 3 games will be Raith Rovers at ER, Livvi at ER and Aston Villa at ER.

Raith Rovers ..... Any Hibs manager at any time should win this game.

Livvi .... Any Hibs manager at any time should win this game.

Aston Villa .... No Hibs manager in the last 40 years could be expected to win home or away in this game.

Fail to beat Raith Rovers or Livvi and he simply has to go.

Nicho87
13-08-2023, 05:55 PM
Was there any LJ shouts out of interest at full time or just booing

sean
13-08-2023, 05:56 PM
A fair assessment. We still don't have a recognisable system of play, which is worrying. I still don't know what Johnson's plan is. All in all, it isn't good. Perhaps the win over Luzern has gotten him more time to improve, but he needs to do it quickly, even though it's so early in the season. If he loses a sizeable portion of the fans, he's done for.

I would give him a bit more time. Let's see how results go in the coming weeks.

Today I’m perplexed as to why he chose to play 3 centre halves, Motherwell made the game really narrow and didn’t seem to have anyone with real pace up top that we needed that extra man at the back. Felt for Lewis who at 35 is playing 90 minutes Thursday and Sunday.

I want Lee to succeed as he’s a Hibs manager , I don’t actually care who’s the manager of Hibs I just want us to win, the style and tactics are irrelevant to me I just want some consistency in the side, selection and tactics. If he does that we defiantly have good quality players that will get results.

WhileTheChief..
13-08-2023, 05:56 PM
Quite a lot of that was because he inherited Stubbs team though. After he had to replace enough of them, it fell apart.

Went to Celtic, got a reaction out of Rogers' players. Once he put his stamp on it, it fell apart.

Lennon is fine if you have a good, balanced group of players and need an instant reaction out of them. He's not a manager to count on doing more than that, and given we're lacking in several key positions it could be a complete disaster with him in charge.

Fair points.

But it’s also been 5 years or so. He’s a bit more experienced, older, maybe wiser ;)

Worth a shout for me, but my sensible head would say to go for McInnes. I doubt he’d come though. He’s building something at Killie and seems settled.

My bigger worry is our board going through the whole selection process again and making the same mistake 3x in a row. We kinda know what we’d get with Lennon.

MWHIBBIES
13-08-2023, 05:58 PM
Serious question: has there been a case collective amnesia over MacInnes reign at Aberdeen?

We’re just as fickle as them if not more. If Jack couldn’t last because of his “steady as she goes” approach there’s not much chance for Del… Has it really com to this?

We do howver need a manager that can work with the players at his disposal.

He consistently had Aberdeen top 4. That is not steady. Its extremely good.

jeffers
13-08-2023, 06:00 PM
A fair assessment. We still don't have a recognisable system of play, which is worrying. I still don't know what Johnson's plan is. All in all, it isn't good. Perhaps the win over Luzern has gotten him more time to improve, but he needs to do it quickly, even though it's so early in the season. If he loses a sizeable portion of the fans, he's done for.

I would give him a bit more time. Let's see how results go in the coming weeks.

Your first few sentences sum it up. He’s been here over a year, you’d be forgiven for thinking he’d been appointed this summer. We have no identity and as you say no recognisable style of play or system. Now he can argue all he wants about needing multiple windows to really make proper progress but you’d think after a year we’d know what he was trying to do. For all his failings it was clear early on what Maloney wanted to do.

Pedantic_Hibee
13-08-2023, 06:00 PM
Johnson out. McInnes in.

sean
13-08-2023, 06:01 PM
He consistently had Aberdeen top 4. That is not steady. Its extremely good.

Couldn’t agree more, it’s insane Hibs fans would turn there noses up at a proven SPL manager who has won cups, finished 2nd 3rd and 4th consistently over a period of time and had the team in the Europa league.

MWHIBBIES
13-08-2023, 06:02 PM
I’ve always said supporting hibs you have to accept losses

But the manner in which we lose under him is stinking

Mcinnes, Lennon or Robinson

Please

Robinson holy ****.

Didn't Lee beat him 3 times last season?

Basildon Hibs
13-08-2023, 06:03 PM
Why can't people see the Elephant in the room?

Get LJ out the door ASAP and get a manager who knows what they're doing.

Since452
13-08-2023, 06:03 PM
Robinson? Lennon? Jeezy peeps man. I'd rather stick with LJ.

jeffers
13-08-2023, 06:06 PM
Robinson? Lennon? Jeezy peeps man. I'd rather stick with LJ.

Don’t want Robinson either but he did well at Motherwell, is doing well at St Mirren. I believe he’d do better with our current squad than Johnson is managing.

I wanted McInnes when we sacked Maloney but I think that ship has sailed unfortunately.

Basildon Hibs
13-08-2023, 06:08 PM
Robinson? Lennon? Jeezy peeps man. I'd rather stick with LJ.

🤣🤣🤣

WhileTheChief..
13-08-2023, 06:09 PM
Robinson? Lennon? Jeezy peeps man. I'd rather stick with LJ.

Just over those 2 or in general?

Things must be getting bad if you’re having second thoughts LJ :greengrin

bingo70
13-08-2023, 06:09 PM
The mythical Hibs way is what holds us back so much. Lot of utter nonsense unless we invest huge money in top players we’d be far better just putting together a competitive side like Mcinnes had at that dons, il happily take apparent ***** football for European group stage footy and 3rd place finishes.

I actually disagree with you despite you agreeing with me 😂

I just think there’s a misconception as to what the Hibs way is in terms of what divas like me are looking for.

I don’t think many of us who want to be entertained demand fast free flowing football like we had under Mowbrey (at home). I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting to enjoy the games when going to Easter road and for many of us, that’s more than just the end result. A high intensity game that involved getting the ball forward quickly and directly is good with me if it’s done well.

Playing a slow turgid (imo) game of football, trying to win games 1-0 every week isn’t what I want to see but that’s nothing to do with some mythical Hibs way, I just want to enjoy my trips to Easter Road.

WhileTheChief..
13-08-2023, 06:11 PM
I actually disagree with you despite you agreeing with me 😂

I just think there’s a misconception as to what the Hibs way is in terms of what divas like me are looking for.

I don’t think many of us who want to be entertained demand fast free flowing football like we had under Mowbrey (at home). I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting to enjoy the games when going to Easter road and for many of us, that’s more than just the end result. A high intensity game that involved getting the ball forward quickly and directly is good with me if it’s done well.

Playing a slow turgid (imo) game of football, trying to win games 1-0 every week isn’t what I want to see but that’s nothing to do with some mythical Hibs way, I just want to enjoy my trips to Easter Road.

Did you enjoy it when Lennon was boss? :duck:

bingo70
13-08-2023, 06:11 PM
Why can't people see the Elephant in the room?

Get LJ out the door ASAP and get a manager who knows what they're doing.

What’s the elephant in the room though?

You’re on a thread where everybody is criticising LJ so it can’t be that you’re talking about?!

sean
13-08-2023, 06:13 PM
I actually disagree with you despite you agreeing with me 😂

I just think there’s a misconception as to what the Hibs way is in terms of what divas like me are looking for.

I don’t think many of us who want to be entertained demand fast free flowing football like we had under Mowbrey (at home). I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting to enjoy the games when going to Easter road and for many of us, that’s more than just the end result. A high intensity game that involved getting the ball forward quickly and directly is good with me if it’s done well.

Playing a slow turgid (imo) game of football, trying to win games 1-0 every week isn’t what I want to see but that’s nothing to do with some mythical Hibs way, I just want to enjoy my trips to Easter Road.


Which I get, although I have been to turgid wins over the years in isolation I can rarely think of a time where we were winning a lot and it was *****, you usually get good performances to an extent the more a team wins.

Basildon Hibs
13-08-2023, 06:13 PM
What’s the elephant in the room though?

You’re on a thread where everybody is criticising LJ so it can’t be that you’re talking about?!

There's still posters on this thread trying to defend him.

jeffers
13-08-2023, 06:13 PM
What’s the elephant in the room though?

You’re on a thread where everybody is criticising LJ so it can’t be that you’re talking about?!

FFS not more animals. Fish, horses, lions and now elephants :greengrin

bingo70
13-08-2023, 06:15 PM
Did you enjoy it when Lennon was boss? :duck:

Some of it.

When it was good it was really good. I enjoyed listening to him. I found him interesting and relatable, he spoke about football the same way I do and I enjoyed the fact he wasn’t an overly media trained robot.

I was ready for him to leave about a month before he did though and he annoyed me at the end.

Chorley Hibee
13-08-2023, 06:15 PM
FFS not more animals. Fish, horses, lions and now elephants :greengrin

Saw plenty of ****ing donkeys today too.

jeffers
13-08-2023, 06:15 PM
Saw plenty of ****ing donkeys today too.

:greengrin

mcohibs
13-08-2023, 06:15 PM
Your first few sentences sum it up. He’s been here over a year, you’d be forgiven for thinking he’d been appointed this summer. We have no identity and as you say no recognisable style of play or system. Now he can argue all he wants about needing multiple windows to really make proper progress but you’d think after a year we’d know what he was trying to do. For all his failings it was clear early on what Maloney wanted to do.

Correct. For those saying he needs time, he’s had it. The fact he’s been here over a year and I’m not confident of us beating anyone in this league right now even at home speaks volumes about LJ’s tenure at Hibs.

The managers that we SHOULD HAVE given time to were Heckingbottom and Jack Ross, not our current manager.

It’s a shame because for all he gets slated, I actually find him quite endearing at times in interviews etc. Fancies himself a bit aye but that’s not a characteristic that’s rare in football management.

He’s not the man to take us forward. I think deep down even his most vocal supporters know that.

sean
13-08-2023, 06:16 PM
Correct. For those saying he needs time, he’s had it. The fact he’s been here over a year and I’m not confident of us beating anyone in this league right now even at home speaks volumes about LJ’s tenure at Hibs.

The managers that we SHOULD HAVE given time to were Heckingbottom and Jack Ross, not our current manager.

He’s not the man to take us forward. I think deep down even his most vocal supporters know that.

Good points, I’m not an LJ fan but wanted to give him time but you’re spot on.

bingo70
13-08-2023, 06:20 PM
There's still posters on this thread trying to defend him.

Not many though.

Most people advocating not sacking him are doing so while saying not just now, rather than through any great defence of him.

We’re 2 league games in, we just had an excellent result in Europe during the week. People not wanting LJ sacked just now isn’t a huge shock, the support he does have won’t last long though if things don’t improve quickly.

WhileTheChief..
13-08-2023, 06:22 PM
Some of it.

When it was good it was really good. I enjoyed listening to him. I found him interesting and relatable, he spoke about football the same way I do and I enjoyed the fact he wasn’t an overly media trained robot.

I was ready for him to leave about a month before he did though and he annoyed me at the end.

Pretty much the way I felt, but I was surprised at when and how he left. Would have hm back in a heartbeat to fix the wrongs.

B.H.F.C
13-08-2023, 06:27 PM
Your first few sentences sum it up. He’s been here over a year, you’d be forgiven for thinking he’d been appointed this summer. We have no identity and as you say no recognisable style of play or system. Now he can argue all he wants about needing multiple windows to really make proper progress but you’d think after a year we’d know what he was trying to do. For all his failings it was clear early on what Maloney wanted to do.

Gary Holt was spot on in his assessment on the radio that I heard on the way home. Said that he needs to stop bleating about this, that and the next thing. And that’s exactly what he does. The one thing he didn’t bother mentioning in his interview after the game was the fact that he set us up in a way that our only tactic was lump it towards Doidge from first minute to last. And at no point in the game did we look to do anything different.

thebausburst
13-08-2023, 06:27 PM
Couldn’t agree more, it’s insane Hibs fans would turn there noses up at a proven SPL manager who has won cups, finished 2nd 3rd and 4th consistently over a period of time and had the team in the Europa league.

This 100%, these are FACTS not opinion.

Tha Cabbage Kid
13-08-2023, 06:28 PM
No one would have touched McInnes on his last season at Aberdeen so what's changed?

sean
13-08-2023, 06:29 PM
No one would have touched McInnes on his last season at Aberdeen so what's changed?

I would have, every manager goes stale at a club it’s the nature of the beast. Bar Lennon Mcinnes would be our most successful manager overall of the last 20 years? ( as In previous managerial achievements)

Hibernia&Alba
13-08-2023, 06:34 PM
Not many though.

Most people advocating not sacking him are doing so while saying not just now, rather than through any great defence of him.

We’re 2 league games in, we just had an excellent result in Europe during the week. People not wanting LJ sacked just now isn’t a huge shock, the support he does have won’t last long though if things don’t improve quickly.

:agree:

Exactly so. It's the timing for me, given how early into the season we are. I would give any manager a bit longer in this situation.

jeffers
13-08-2023, 06:34 PM
Gary Holt was spot on in his assessment on the radio that I heard on the way home. Said that he needs to stop bleating about this, that and the next thing. And that’s exactly what he does. The one thing he didn’t bother mentioning in his interview after the game was the fact that he set us up in a way that our only tactic was lump it towards Doidge from first minute to last. And at no point in the game did we look to do anything different.

Interesting that someone unconnected to the club with no axe to grind is saying what a lot of us have accused him of doing. It’s down to him when things go well, it’s excuses and finger pointing when it doesn’t.

NC1875
13-08-2023, 06:35 PM
Just read his post match comments. He slavers some *****.

Blames Thursday for today being flat. That’s his job to motivate the players, get his team and tactics right.

How many times does he have to make changes at half time ? That’s an admission he’s got it wrong. He’s not got a clue

greenlex
13-08-2023, 06:40 PM
I get the team selection today. A tactic that should be employed on Thursday night to get us through in Europe. Enough there to be defensive and get a goal. It did appear just how they would go about it was not imparted to them before or at any time during the game. I’ve definitely had enough of this what can only be described as mismanagement. We really have a good squad. Honest we have. I reckon just about any manager we’ve had over the last 20 years would get a better tune out it. Enough enough. He’s not got it. Get him gone.

Centre Hawf
13-08-2023, 06:49 PM
I get the team selection today. A tactic that should be employed on Thursday night to get us through in Europe. Enough there to be defensive and get a goal. It did appear just how they would go about it was not imparted to them before or at any time during the game. I’ve definitely had enough of this what can only be described as mismanagement. We really have a good squad. Honest we have. I reckon just about any manager we’ve had over the last 20 years would get a better tune out it. Enough enough. He’s not got it. Get him gone.

This is where I am as well. I know it's easy to full tonto about the signings etc or getting rid of players but other than some dead weight we know we're probably looking to shift (Jair, Henderson, even a Melkersen) I think we have some good players in the squad that can easily be up there and competing for third in the league if set up and managed properly. Some do need to show more than they currently are but I think our current system in the last two league games have been nothing short of a disgrace.

Stuart93
13-08-2023, 06:51 PM
When opposition fans are desperate for a rival manager to stay it speaks volumes

Hibees1973
13-08-2023, 07:02 PM
Just read his post match comments. He slavers some *****.

Blames Thursday for today being flat. That’s his job to motivate the players, get his team and tactics right.

How many times does he have to make changes at half time ? That’s an admission he’s got it wrong. He’s not got a clue

Haven't listened to it and hopefully will be able to avoid.

I mentioned it earlier on this week. Many Hibs supporters despise him that much that it's best not to listen to him, in particular post match. Will only wind you up even more.

I've just stopped listening to him and switch off when I hear him on TV/radio. Talks complete nonsense.

Nicho87
13-08-2023, 07:05 PM
I could see mcinnes or Lennon being here 3-5 years

You know what you get

Both know the league

Both have worked for big clubs previously and delivered

The current manager is lost

The fact we still call on the likes of Henderson today and he’s no where near match fit sums us up

WeeRussell
13-08-2023, 07:06 PM
I could see mcinnes or Lennon being here 3-5 years

You know what you get

Both know the league

Both have worked for big clubs previously and delivered

The current manager is lost

The fact we still call on the likes of Henderson today and he’s no where near match fit sums us up

We sacked Lennon because he wasn’t good enough.

LaMotta
13-08-2023, 07:07 PM
There's still posters on this thread trying to defend him.

You can't seriously think though that the club are going to sack him before Thursday. He has a chance to deliver a good achievement for Hibs on Thursday. I think a lot of minds today would be on Thursday in the Hibs team, so the performance is hardly one to decide the managers fate.

If we throw it away on Thursday, then the knives will be out from far more people following that, the moment an another bad result comes.

jeffers
13-08-2023, 07:08 PM
I could see mcinnes or Lennon being here 3-5 years

You know what you get

Both know the league

Both have worked for big clubs previously and delivered

The current manager is lost

The fact we still call on the likes of Henderson today and he’s no where near match fit sums us up

McInnes maybe. Lennon no chance imo. He’d implode eventually, would get frustrated at our inability to match the OF in spending power and it would all end in tears.

BroxburnHibee
13-08-2023, 07:08 PM
Haven't listened to it and hopefully will be able to avoid.

I mentioned it earlier on this week. Many Hibs supporters despise him that much that it's best not to listen to him, in particular post match. Will only wind you up even more.

I've just stopped listening to him and switch off when I hear him on TV/radio. Talks complete nonsense.

That's where I am. He's completely killed my interest. I can't listen to him or even read his comments even when we win.

He can't go quick enough for me

Smartie
13-08-2023, 07:11 PM
I get the team selection today. A tactic that should be employed on Thursday night to get us through in Europe. Enough there to be defensive and get a goal. It did appear just how they would go about it was not imparted to them before or at any time during the game. I’ve definitely had enough of this what can only be described as mismanagement. We really have a good squad. Honest we have. I reckon just about any manager we’ve had over the last 20 years would get a better tune out it. Enough enough. He’s not got it. Get him gone.

I don’t think we do have a good squad. We have a very good first team that will carries a few question marks but we have some very weak players on the periphery of the squad, players we’ve either been forced to use and have been poor or who have not been up to displacing others being forced to play Thursday / Sunday every week. For my money we’re yet to see close to our best team yet either.

Do I think he should be doing better with what he has though - yes. He has players to play better than they have, and his selections and tactics have been suspect for me.

churchie16
13-08-2023, 07:12 PM
We sacked Lennon because he wasn’t good enough.

Just simply not true

Nicho87
13-08-2023, 07:12 PM
That's where I am. He's completely killed my interest. I can't listen to him or even read his comments even when we win.

He can't go quick enough for me

Same

I was the same with Ross

Dreary old rubbish

We strive for Europe

Now Europe is the excuse

erin go bragh
13-08-2023, 07:14 PM
We sacked Lennon because he wasn’t good enough.
No we never. Lennon seen right through that rat Kamberi and lost the plot when the said rat spat when walking past Lennon
Lennon would be a massive upgrade on Johnston

Nicho87
13-08-2023, 07:14 PM
We sacked Lennon because he wasn’t good enough.

Just forgetting the whole fallout with kamberi aspect of it

Lennon had hit a poor run of results but this was the first really bad run

Nothing compared to the current manager where we have had numerous runs.

Lennon always gets heavily praised by ex players etc for making them feel 10 foot tall for example, tactically astute

We could do a hell of a lot worse than giving Lennon a rolling contract for arguments sake

mcfly
13-08-2023, 07:15 PM
He’s not got long.

A lot of fans never accepted him, the ones who wanted to give him a chance are now losing patience

Won’t be long before the whole crowd turns on him.

He’s had full backing by the board - it’s his team, it’s his fault and no one else to blame.

WeeRussell
13-08-2023, 07:17 PM
Just forgetting the whole fallout with kamberi aspect of it

Lennon had hit a poor run of results but this was the first really bad run

Nothing compared to the current manager where we have had numerous runs.

Lennon always gets heavily praised by ex players etc for making them feel 10 foot tall for example, tactically astute

We could do a hell of a lot worse than giving Lennon a rolling contract for arguments sake

Not forgetting it at all. Behaved like a complete arse not for the first time and a good example of his poor management at the time.

500miles
13-08-2023, 07:18 PM
I want him gone and have for a long time, but today didn't really add anything. Midfield and defence all looked a half hard short. 3 days rest v 4 days rest is a big difference, although I'm concerned that a days travelling to Switzerland could cause us problems on Thursday.

If I had a criticism today, it would have been that he should have given our centre mids and fullbacks a rest and challenged the understudies to step up.

truehibernian
13-08-2023, 07:18 PM
That's where I am. He's completely killed my interest. I can't listen to him or even read his comments even when we win.

He can't go quick enough for me

Many of the players are in your camp too 👍

His treatment of players and staff after the St Mirren defeat was quite staggering, nay erratic behaviour.

500miles
13-08-2023, 07:19 PM
3wwwwwwawwwwww